Scott Walker Tells Dana Loesch Mandatory Ultrasounds Are ‘Just a Cool Thing’

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Displaying an amazingly horrible tin ear and that casual misogyny for which the Republican Party has become well-known, Gov. Scott Walker, a probable presidential candidate, says that government-mandated ultrasound examinations for women seeking abortions are “just a cool thing.”

“I’ll give you an example. I’m pro-life, I’ve passed pro-life legislation. We defunded Planned Parenthood, we signed a law that requires an ultrasound. Which, the thing about that, the media tried to make that sound like that was a crazy idea. Most people I talk to, whether they’re pro-life or not, I find people all the time who’ll get out their iPhone and show me a picture of their grandkids’ ultrasound and how excited they are, so that’s a lovely thing. I think about my sons are 19 and 20, you know we still have their first ultrasound picture. It’s just a cool thing out there.

“We just knew if we signed that law, if we provided the information, that more people if they saw that unborn child would, would make a decision to protect and keep the life of that unborn child.”

This is a beautiful illustration of why it’s vitally important that Republicans be voted out of office in every part of American life. They’re completely lost in a fantasy world in which rolling back all the progress this country has made in women’s rights is “just a cool thing.”

It’s not. It’s not cool. It’s dangerously reactionary and stupid.

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1 freetoken  May 27, 2015 4:45:00pm

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2 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 4:45:58pm

Governor Pokey McRapeWand.

3 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 4:46:38pm

Dear Scott,

You don’t mind if I call you Scott, right?

Let’s make one thing clear: I do not consider it a “cool thing” to have someone completely unconnected to my medical care decide that I need a medically unnecessary procedure - a procedure that, in any other context, occurring without my consent, would be classified as sexual assault.

I have other words for that.

Thanks (and still never going to vote for you),

klys

4 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 4:46:50pm

At some point I thought Walker could make a decent run of it. Now, I would pay to see a debate between Scott Walker and Hillary Clinton.

5 prairiefire  May 27, 2015 4:47:37pm

Govenor McJackwad Idiot Loper.

6 Kid A  May 27, 2015 4:50:12pm

It’s called rape, Scott.

7 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 4:50:19pm

re: #1 freetoken

Not unrelated:

Bates Family ‘Praying’ For Friends The Duggars

Norman and his mother?

8 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 4:51:01pm

I started to write an article about Chuck Johnson’s absurdly dumb post about being persecuted by the cool kids, in which he switches from first person to third person and back to first person again, but naaah.

9 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 4:51:06pm

Dear Mr. Walker: Would you be upset if someone thought inserting the AssBuster 3000 up your rectum without your consent, and for no rational reason, was ‘cool’?

If yes, then cease parroting stupid RWNJ talking points.

If no, ewww.

10 Skip Intro  May 27, 2015 4:51:41pm

Just to be fair, I think that a cystoscopy should be required of all men wanting a prescription for ED. We just need to check to see if anything is wrong, that’s all.

Should also be a requirement to get a prescription refilled.

11 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 4:52:45pm

Governor Flatfish GiveFistings amirite?

12 Bubblehead II  May 27, 2015 4:53:04pm

From last thread. Please look.

littlegreenfootballs.com

13 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 4:53:38pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I started to write an article about Chuck Johnson’s absurdly dumb post about being persecuted by the cool kids, in which he switches from first person to third person and back to first person again, but naaah.

Wait for the inevitable mugshot. It’ll be sweeter that way.

14 S'latch  May 27, 2015 4:57:35pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Someone has already done one similar. I read it yesterday when I decided to read some more about him elsewhere. It was really hilarious.

15 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 4:58:01pm

re: #12 Bubblehead II

Your comment linked to two different accounts, kettlecat and kettlekat. You might want to edit the first one.

16 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 4:58:03pm
17 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 4:59:32pm

It really is like watching 2012 all over again. Who will be the first in the field to try to argue that there is no pregnancy from “real rape”?

18 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:00:02pm

If Dana sees this page she will come here with guns a’blazin’

19 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 5:00:26pm

Governor Motherfucker McMyGodYouSuck!

20 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:00:44pm
21 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:00:45pm

re: #6 Kid A

It’s called rape, Scott.

Indeed. And those responsible for passing legislation to make these rapes happen really ought to be brought up on charges.

22 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:03:24pm

Why is Dana suddenly so upset about “fake quotes” when she used fake quotes in her gun-fucking book.

23 b.d.  May 27, 2015 5:03:51pm

re: #20 Lord Of The Pies

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Poor Dana, poor, poor Dana. Only her guns really understand her.

24 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 5:05:00pm

re: #20 Lord Of The Pies

That’s a bunch of horseshit. I’ve read Governor RapeWand’s remarks a few times, I come to the conclusion that he thinks (mandatory) ultrasounds are “cool” and “lovely.” Pretty goddamned unambiguous if you ask me.

25 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:05:19pm

re: #22 Lord Of The Pies

Why is Dana suddenly so upset about “fake quotes” when she used fake quotes in her gun-fucking book.

Because she is a two-faced hypocrite like all other movement conservatives.

(Some rhetorical questions simply have to be answered)

26 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:06:12pm

If Dana is so concerned about fakery why doesn’t she correct that horrific Photoshopped book cover that makes her look like she has scoliosis?

27 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:06:46pm
28 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 27, 2015 5:06:55pm

re: #12 Bubblehead II

From last thread. Please look.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Can’t help. Same boat.

29 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 5:07:19pm

re: #26 Lord Of The Pies

If Dana is so concerned about fakery why doesn’t she correct that horrific Photoshopped book cover that makes her look like she has scoliosis?

Gotta make dat ass look good for the gun-fucking men who buy the book. Sex sells, doncha know!

30 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 5:09:56pm

Be back in a bit, gotta go to the weed store.

:-P

31 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:11:31pm

She’s completely losing it

32 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 27, 2015 5:11:38pm

The best I have to offer is to keep putting one foot in front of the other. It doesn’t matter where you go, but you can’t stay here. And sometimes you have a sunny day.

33 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:11:38pm

re: #20 Lord Of The Pies

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Dana Loesch is an asshole. She always does this transparently dishonest crap when she’s called on something. Scott Walker absolutely was talking directly about mandatory ultrasounds.

34 b.d.  May 27, 2015 5:12:11pm

re: #22 Lord Of The Pies

Why is Dana suddenly so upset about “fake quotes” when she used fake quotes in her gun-fucking book.

Dear Dana:

Loesch:

“A free people ought to be armed.” - George Washington

Actual Quote:

“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

The version appearing in Loesch’s book crops language from Washington’s quote that made it clear he was talking about the creation of a national defense strategy.

mediamatters.org

etc., etc., etc.

35 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:13:12pm

And Loesch even says it herself, straight up:

Anyone with the reading comprehension of a dolphin knows that Walker was specifically describing ultrasound images, not the legislation itself — which yes, it is cool that women seeking an abortion as a form of birth control must think and see the life they are ending before ending it.

These people are just completely delusional at this point. They’re gone.

36 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 27, 2015 5:13:21pm

BTW, does weed ever small really bad? Our neighbors smoke and it stinks up our house. I think it’s just cigarette smoke but other people think it’s weed.

37 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:14:33pm

re: #36 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I dislike smoke of any kind. Partial combustion can lead to all sorts of nasty chemicals.

38 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:16:17pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch is an asshole. She always does this transparently dishonest crap when she’s called on something. Scott Walker absolutely was talking directly about mandatory ultrasounds.

I seem to recall her last meltdown where she was screaming and crying that @bipartisanism was “stalking” her when he was just calling out her bullshit. But instead of blocking & muting him (which is normal for dealing with a stalker) she kept replying to him.

39 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 5:16:47pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch is an asshole. She always does this transparently dishonest crap when she’s called on something. Scott Walker absolutely was talking directly about mandatory ultrasounds.

He was, at best, equivocating through switch referencing. He deliberately created a lazy conflation between the coolness of the ultrasound image he and other parents keep, with the forced procedure he tried to legislate.

40 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:17:22pm

Speaking of Scott Walker, I’ve been forcing myself to listen to Brimelow’s last AmRen speech, and at 20:50 in the video he mentions he was impressed with Scott Walker’s recently stating he’s changed his mind (about something related to immigration.)

The GOP candidates are pandering to their most rabid right wing voters. I hope they pay for it in the general election.

41 Bubblehead II  May 27, 2015 5:17:39pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Your comment linked to two different accounts, kettlecat and kettlekat. You might want to edit the first one.

Pencil has expired. Go forthe twitter.com

42 Decatur Deb  May 27, 2015 5:17:39pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

He was, at best, equivocating through switch referencing. He deliberately created a lazy conflation between the coolness of the ultrasound image he and other parents keep, with the forced procedure he tried to legislate.

‘zactly.

43 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:19:59pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

He was, at best, equivocating through switch referencing. He deliberately created a lazy conflation between the coolness of the ultrasound image he and other parents keep, with the forced procedure he tried to legislate.

The problem is people like Loesch want it both ways. They want their politicians to say these disgusting things but never get called out for them. So they split hairs and get hyper-technical about tiny details and act all outraged and upset at the drop of a hat. It’s gross dishonesty.

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2015 5:20:40pm
45 Mike Lamb  May 27, 2015 5:20:40pm

Okay Dana, he did not say that the forced ultrasound was cool. Conceded. What he did, though, was casually conflate ultrasound pics/procedures from people that consented to said ultrasound, and those pictures that would presumably come from people that are being forced to have an ultrasound. It’s equally disgusting and misleading. He’s suggesting that the person who doesn’t want the ultrasound and doesn’t want to carry to term will nevertheless think it’s a “cool thing” that they have the picture.

46 lawhawk  May 27, 2015 5:21:13pm

Mandatory ultrasounds - the cost of which are borne by the woman who seeks an abortion. Adding to the cost of health care by mandating a procedure that is wholly medically unnecessary in most instances.

There is no reason for this procedure to be conducted. It’s supposed to be between the doctor and their patient, but instead the GOP has decided that they know better than the medical community. Way to show your small government credentials by being so small that you can fit up in the lady bits with room to spare for an extraneous and unnecessary medical procedure.

And for all the talk about fiscal responsibility, this procedure is fiscally irresponsible by adding to health care costs for all - but especially for the poor and those in need of an abortion.

That, apparently, trumps all else - add to the costs, make it impossible to get a legal abortion, and the GOP claims victory. Never mind that they’ve committed themselves to dismantling the safety net, wont provide assistance to parents with newborns or kids.

47 BeachDem  May 27, 2015 5:21:30pm

Back from seeing Hillary in Columbia. What fun! Will probably do a page later, when my friends send me all their photos. Just a few highlights:

1. If you watch any footage of her speech, you’ll see that there’s a blonde lady with a white necklace standing beside/behind Hillary. That’s my friend Sally! When we were driving home, her facebook page looked like a ticker tape as people kept commenting about seeing her.

2. Of our particular group of 5, 1 was interviewed by a local MB TV station; 1 by a Charleston station; 1 by a Swedish newspaper and I was interviewed by the New York Times.

3. Our county was the only one Hillary carried in SC in 2008. She remembered, and we got a photo of her with our county Dem Women.

4. She looked great, was very at ease and gave a really positive, “connected” speech. (I don’t know why all the stories are talking about her “drawl.” I didn’t notice it at all.) The speech was at a women’s event, so she talked a lot about pay equality for women, family issues, etc. Totally upbeat—no nastiness (OK, a tiny bit of snark about the clown car) and very positive.

5. She told some funny anecdotes and stories, the best being about how the presidency ages people, and how all of the recent presidents have gone gray/white while in office. She pointed out that that will not happen to her, as she’s been coloring her hair for years and isn’t about to stop.

6. Carly Fiorina was holding a press conference at the Hilton, but I don’t think anyone showed up (they were all at the Marriott for Hillary) so Carly came over and walked up the street where all the press trucks were, and was pretty much ignored there too. While she was trying to make her point, there was one doofus protester walking along with a misspelled BENGHAZI!! sign.

More later…

48 b_sharp  May 27, 2015 5:21:38pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch is an asshole. She always does this transparently dishonest crap when she’s called on something. Scott Walker absolutely was talking directly about mandatory ultrasounds.

He purposely conflated mandatory (forced) vaginal ultrasounds with all voluntary ultrasounds.

49 Mike Lamb  May 27, 2015 5:22:07pm

re: #36 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

BTW, does weed ever small really bad? Our neighbors smoke and it stinks up our house. I think it’s just cigarette smoke but other people think it’s weed.

Really depends on who you ask. Some people think (me being one of them, although I no longer partake) that the stickiest of the icky smells fantastic.

50 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:26:30pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

The problem is people like Loesch want it both ways. They want their politicians to say these disgusting things but never get called out for them. So they split hairs and get hyper-technical about tiny details and act all outraged and upset at the drop of a hat. It’s gross dishonesty.

Right wing nut jobs certainly do not deserve the benefit of the doubt for any of their public statements.

Pretty much everything expressed in a natural language is ambiguous (which is why computers aren’t programmed in English), so honest conversations take possible ambiguities into account.

However, the US Right hasn’t honestly debated anything in decades. Furthermore, they have a long track record of the dog whistle shit.

51 gwangung  May 27, 2015 5:27:59pm

re: #47 BeachDem

6. Carly Fiorina was holding a press conference at the Hilton, but I don’t think anyone showed up (they were all at the Marriott for Hillary) so Carly came over and walked up the street where all the press trucks were, and was pretty much ignored there too. While she was trying to make her point, there was one doofus protester walking along with a misspelled BENGHAZI!! sign.

After what she said about China, I’d dropkick her in the Atlantic Ocean.

The Republicans really are out for the racist white voter…

52 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:28:06pm

re: #45 Mike Lamb

Okay Dana, he did not say that the forced ultrasound was cool. Conceded. What he did, though, was casually conflate ultrasound pics/procedures from people that consented to said ultrasound, and those pictures that would presumably come from people that are being forced to have an ultrasound. It’s equally disgusting and misleading. He’s suggesting that the person who doesn’t want the ultrasound and doesn’t want to carry to term will nevertheless think it’s a “cool thing” that they have the picture.

I won’t even concede that point. You don’t get to talk about how it’s a great idea to defund Planned Parenthood and have forced ultrasound laws, and then segue right into a story about how “cool” ultrasounds are without it being pointed out that you made a very explicit connection between your forced ultrasounds and how wonderfully cool you think ultrasounds are.

He did say that. No concessions from me.

53 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:28:41pm

Here is a quote from Dana her very self, which is disgusting:

it is cool that women seeking an abortion as a form of birth control must think and see the life they are ending before ending it. Maryland has a seven day waiting period to buy a gun, and defense to save lives and liberty are Constitutional. Waiting periods blow, don’t they?

She compares getting an abortion to buying a gun. How sick is that?

54 Decatur Deb  May 27, 2015 5:29:38pm

“We’re gonna rape you, but you get a nice 8x10 glossy of the date.”

55 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:30:06pm

re: #53 Lord Of The Pies

Here is a quote from Dana her very self, which is disgusting:

She compares getting an abortion to buying a gun. How sick is that?

Dana Loesch is an absolutely horrible person. Journalists should never knuckle under to her dishonest demands.

56 bratwurst  May 27, 2015 5:30:13pm

Finally a bit of good news for me today: damage to my car can be repaired fairly easily. My main concern was difficulty in obtaining Saturn parts, but fortunately GM still handles everything I need. Now I don’t have to worry about getting another car ahead of my health forcing me off the road.

I went to a facility that is actually owned by Allstate, and let me tell you…the price quote you get from a body shop that is not strictly in the business of price gouging is amazing. Naturally, the price is still well north of my $500 deductible, but I would be willing to wager I could easily get an estimate elsewhere for 20-40% more.

57 Mike Lamb  May 27, 2015 5:30:14pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

I won’t even concede that point. You don’t get to talk about how it’s a great idea to defund Planned Parenthood and have forced ultrasound laws, and then segue right into a story about how “cool” ultrasounds are without it being pointed out that you made a very explicit connection between your forced ultrasounds and how wonderfully cool ultrasounds are.

He did say that. No concessions from me.

But that is the dishonest conflation…he segued from forced ultrasound to grandparents doting over their ultrasound photos. In other words, no one should worry about forced ultrasounds because those people over there that wanted a child think their ultrasound pics are cool.

58 Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2015 5:30:36pm

Real conspiracies can happen.

I’ve been wondering which Republi-crook is Putin’s man in the race. Walker seems a pretty good bet. Given the huge resources available in the conspiracy industry and the Republican base though, Vlad may in fact have more than one candidate in his pocket.

For many years, conservatives in this country turned over every rock and looked under every bed trying to unmask Russian agents of influence. They did a lot of damage but never found much in the way of real agents.

Today, with the communists gone and with Alex Jones’s effusive praise of Putin, and the vast influence of the Russian government outlet rt.com on the American right, real Russian influence on American public life is happening right before our eyes with little notice from anyone.

Is the far right becoming a Russian fifth column? Is the conspiracy industry and its strike arm, the militia movement, orchestrated from the Kremlin? The American far right militias, for example, are a close analog of the kind of irregular forces Putin likes to use in Ukraine and other places.

I know liberals and leftists are averse to such thinking for obvious historical reasons but the evidence against alleged communist “agents of influence” in the 40s and 50s was as nothing compared to the current Russian regime’s real, obvious influence over the right wing in this country.

59 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:30:50pm

Splitting hairs over trivia is typical of gun fuckers like Dana.

HURR HURR YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLIP & A MAGAZINE!!!! YOU LOSE LIBTARD!!!!!

60 Feline Fearless Leader  May 27, 2015 5:30:50pm
Feline Overlords take to the trees!

Image of a 1976 (or so) 35mm slide off the scanner. No particular additional work done on it, just some dust coverup the scanner will do by default. The image is at 10% of the full scan image I get from doing 1200dpi. I could probably save space by cutting that, but I think I’d rather scan “big” and then reduce later if I need to. I don’t think the slight blur is due to the scan, it wasn’t taken in clear focus in the first place.

Subjects are the family cat (the black one) and a intruding other cat from a few blocks away (the white one). They were settling down to a howling match when a neighbor’s dog wandered by. So the cats went up the same tree and split their time between hissing and spitting at the dog and each other.

61 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:32:08pm
62 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 5:33:18pm

re: #61 Lord Of The Pies

Dislike a candidate all you want, but to get outraged over a quote he never said is lame.

I detest Walker because he’s anti-choice.

63 Bubblehead II  May 27, 2015 5:34:20pm

Night Lizard & tweets. Time to curl up under a rock and just listen to music. Sleep well. @kettlekat, think long and hard B4 U do something foolish

64 Decatur Deb  May 27, 2015 5:34:37pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Real conspiracies can happen.

I’ve been wondering which Republi-crook is Putin’s man in the race. Walker seems a pretty good bet. Given the huge resources available in the conspiracy industry and the Republican base though, Vlad may in fact have more than one candidate in his pocket.

For many years, conservatives in this country turned over every rock and looked under every bed trying to unmask Russian agents of influence. They did a lot of damage but never found much in the way of real agents.

Today, with the communists gone and with Alex Jones’s effusive praise of Putin, and the vast influence of the Russian government outlet rt.com on the American right, real Russian influence on American public life is happening right before our eyes with little notice from anyone.

Is the far right becoming a Russian fifth column? Is the conspiracy industry and its strike arm, the militia movement, orchestrated from the Kremlin? The American far right militias, for example, are a close analog of the kind of irregular forces Putin likes to use in Ukraine and other places.

I know liberals and leftists are averse to such thinking for obvious historical reasons but the evidence against alleged communist “agents of influence” in the 40s and 50s was as nothing compared to the current Russian regime’s real, obvious influence over the right wing in this country.

Occam says they’re just the usual assholes.

65 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:35:51pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Although I’m primed to believe pretty much anything of US right wing nut jobs, I personally don’t seen anything in this line of inquiry.

US RWNJ behavior is pretty much entirely explicable in terms of Obama derangement syndrome, and the Putin-love seems like a small part of that larger picture.

66 Feline Fearless Leader  May 27, 2015 5:37:49pm
They back country ski in the east too!

And doing this scanning pays off right now, for me at least. A photo of my mother cross-country skiiing. Cropped it a bit, shrank it, and it’s a keeper. (Previous slide to this one was similar but blurry.)

67 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:38:08pm

re: #62 Iwouldprefernotto

I detest Walker because he’s anti-choice.

I detest Walker because he hates poors.

68 Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2015 5:38:35pm

Walker’s union busting has made him a star in the national GOP. President Eisenhower, who boasted about the increase in union membership during his first term, must be rolling in his grave.

69 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:39:18pm

Speaking of assholes==>

70 Decatur Deb  May 27, 2015 5:39:25pm

re: #67 Lord Of The Pies

I detest Walker because he hates poors.

Then why does he make so many of them. HUH?

71 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:40:21pm

You just know Chuck Johnson has already registered a sock puppet with Tor and is reading everything tweeted about him.

72 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:41:45pm

re: #67 Lord Of The Pies

I detest Walker because he hates poors.

I detest Walker because he is pretty much a standard-issue Republican.

So for starters he hates poor people, is anti-choice, and is a mindless war monger.

Furthermore, his record in Wisconsin appears to be one of unbridled corruption and patronage, which is only to be expected.

Finally we can add racism, homophobia, xenophobia and misogyny to the list.

What’s not to like? ///////

73 lawhawk  May 27, 2015 5:43:07pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Chucky probably needed assistance on how to spell Tor to set up an account there.

For someone with a 150+ IQ, he sure doesn’t quite exude intelligence. Or common sense. Especially common sense.

74 Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2015 5:45:04pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Occam says they’re just the usual assholes.

re: #65 EPR-radar

Although I’m primed to believe pretty much anything of US right wing nut jobs, I personally don’t seen anything in this line of inquiry.

US RWNJ behavior is pretty much entirely explicable in terms of Obama derangement syndrome, and the Putin-love seems like a small part of that larger picture.

Perhaps so, but the huge popularity of rt.com on the far right is quite real. It may be more effect than cause but it obviously plays a role in focusing far right thought. At the very least it is alarming that so many Americans will slavishly take the word of a foreign propaganda site, no matter how far-fetched or improbable, over that of their own government, media, academic community or even, in some cases, the experience based testimony of their own neighbors

75 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:45:18pm

Cuteness break:

76 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 27, 2015 5:45:40pm

re: #66 Feline Fearless Leader

Looks good! Which scanner are you using?

77 lawhawk  May 27, 2015 5:46:09pm

Completely OT:

Been watching Despicable Me and when Gru goes to the Bank of Evil for a loan to finance his evil plan, it says underneath the sign “Formerly Lehman Brothers”. Now that’s genuinely funny.

78 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:46:30pm

re: #73 lawhawk

After watching that creepy interview today, I can see how Chuck did well enough in school to get accepted to Claremont. He really isn’t stupid. He’s an obsessive sociopathic narcissist who bullshits well. He’s not dumb the same way Jim Hoft is; Hoft is an exceedingly dim bulb. Chuck isn’t. He’s sloppy and uncaring in what he writes not out of stupidity, but out of egomania — because he believes he can do no wrong.

79 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 5:47:28pm

re: #18 Lord Of The Pies

If Dana sees this page she will come here with guns a’blazin’

We need to send her an invite.

Jamesfirecat has reminded us of our great debating skillz.

80 darthstar  May 27, 2015 5:47:31pm

Hey everyone…

Had to run up north for a night to check on my dad, who is 80 and was hospitalized for a couple of days due to a heart scare. He was released from the hospital yesterday a few hours before I got up to their house, and when I arrived he was sitting in the front porch with a glass of scotch and a cigar. :) So much for death’s door. Mom had her usual glass of wine. I visited with them for a while, got a good night’s sleep, and then this morning he got his portable monitor. Comes with a mobile phone that transmits his heart data automatically to a site in Virginia. Also has a manual feature where he can send a thirty second scan if he feels dizzy…happened once before I left. Pretty interesting shit. I noticed the mobile phone part didn’t have his name displayed so I called the 800 number and got him properly activated, so they’re actually getting his readings now.

It sucks watching your parents get old.

81 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:47:39pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

He’s an obsessive sociopathic narcissist who bullshits well.

Are we sure he’s not the son of Newt?

82 Lidane  May 27, 2015 5:47:58pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Completely OT:

Been watching Despicable Me and when Gru goes to the Bank of Evil for a loan to finance his evil plan, it says underneath the sign “Formerly Lehman Brothers”. Now that’s genuinely funny.

83 Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2015 5:48:44pm

re: #69 Lord Of The Pies

I posted this message on a Sanders Facebook page:

“But won’t Bernie feed puppies and kittens to the Castro brothers at White House dinners? Use confiscated Bibles to fuel his armored train (See “Zhivago, Doctor—-Strelnikov”)? Force school kids to pray to Cthulu? Also, where does he hide his horns and tail? Sorry if these are old questions. I’m just going by what the Republican radio commentators tell us.”

Looks like I wasn’t exaggerating by much, if at all.

84 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 5:49:32pm

re: #67 Lord Of The Pies

I detest Walker because he hates poors.

Yes but he never said it was cool to be poor. Or did he?

85 Feline Fearless Leader  May 27, 2015 5:50:12pm

re: #76 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Looks good! Which scanner are you using?

Epson V600.

Just got a real dusty sky shot. Need to get some canned air and see if that can be cleaned up before scanning again. Also will use this “block” of slides to pick out 12 or so as a test suite to play with more settings on.

Autofocus, digital, etc. etc. has spoiled me a bit. Seeing stuff here that is blurry, exposed a bit wrong, exposed unevenly, and so forth. But these were taken with a 60s-era manual camera, and probably not that high end of one at that. Plus 40+ years of aging on the slides themselves.

86 darthstar  May 27, 2015 5:50:13pm

Well played, young lady. Well played indeed.

87 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 5:51:05pm

re: #84 Iwouldprefernotto

Yes but he never said it was cool to be poor. Or did he?

He thinks the poors have it too good, he wants to make it suck to be poor.

88 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 5:51:45pm
89 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 5:51:58pm

re: #87 Lord Of The Pies

He thinks the poors have it too good, he wants to make it suck to be poor.

You mean suck more.

90 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 5:52:05pm

re: #56 bratwurst

Finally a bit of good news for me today: damage to my car can be repaired fairly easily. My main concern was difficulty in obtaining Saturn parts, but fortunately GM still handles everything I need. Now I don’t have to worry about getting another car ahead of my health forcing me off the road.

I went to a facility that is actually owned by Allstate, and let me tell you…the price quote you get from a body shop that is not strictly in the business of price gouging is amazing. Naturally, the price is still well north of my $500 deductible, but I would be willing to wager I could easily get an estimate elsewhere for 20-40% more.

Good news. :)

91 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:52:18pm

Beware when a racist nationalist starts talking about “solutions”. And that the term “Aryan” is really a good thing.

92 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:53:04pm

Yes, I’m viewing a video from the AmRen conference last month.

93 BeachDem  May 27, 2015 5:53:43pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

After watching that creepy interview today, I can see how Chuck did well enough in school to get accepted to Claremont. He really isn’t stupid. He’s an obsessive sociopathic narcissist who bullshits well. He’s not dumb the same way Jim Hoft is; Hoft is an exceedingly dim bulb. Chuck isn’t. He’s sloppy and uncaring in what he writes not out of stupidity, but out of egomania — because he believes he can do no wrong.

Add that he’s a terrible writer and a pretty awful researcher and I agree (but I’m NOT going to watch that interview and you can’t make me!!)

94 Kragar  May 27, 2015 5:53:59pm

“Oh, you want a viagra prescription? Well, lets schedule your colonoscopy! Its a cool thing.”

95 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 5:54:08pm

re: #36 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

BTW, does weed ever small really bad? Our neighbors smoke and it stinks up our house. I think it’s just cigarette smoke but other people think it’s weed.

I have lots of friends who loathe the smell of cigarettes but love the smell of cannabis.

Think skunk, except way more pleasant.

96 Lidane  May 27, 2015 5:54:18pm
97 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 5:54:38pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Up until Google starts marking his emails as spam.

98 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:55:34pm

re: #97 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What a bad thing to do to Paul Lynde.

99 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 5:56:10pm

re: #91 freetoken

Beware when a racist nationalist starts talking about “solutions”. And that the term “Aryan” is really a good thing.

Some people balk when I refer to the US Right and the GOP as ‘proto-fascist’. I can’t see why.

It is indisputable that full-fledged fascism is there at the fringes, and that the GOP is steadily getting more extreme.

The end result is obvious, unless the GOP radically changes course.

100 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 5:56:43pm

re: #98 freetoken

What a bad thing to do to Paul Lynde.

I don’t know, I think a gay man would be happy to piss off a lot of right wing nut jobs.

101 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 5:56:53pm

See ya’ll later. Time Warner sent me a free move for some disruption in service I missed (thank dog) Going to watch Selma.

102 freetoken  May 27, 2015 5:57:10pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

Not all the GOP is proto-fascist, but I think the anti-immigrants are getting there.

103 darthstar  May 27, 2015 5:57:49pm

Took this shot when I was out paddle boarding with my wife on Monday.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  May 27, 2015 5:59:10pm
And stop calling me surly, or I’ll gut you like these trout!
105 darthstar  May 27, 2015 5:59:40pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Facists make me think of this:

106 Lidane  May 27, 2015 6:00:22pm

Haha, this is awesome:

I can think of a few people who deserve one of these, but they’re not worth spending the money on. ROFL.

107 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:00:48pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Dana Loesch is an absolutely horrible person. Journalists should never knuckle under to her dishonest demands.

The fact that a supposedly top-tier Republican presidential candidate gave an interview to her speaks volumes.

108 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:02:22pm

re: #66 Feline Fearless Leader

A photo of my mother cross-country skiiing.

SKIING!

Me likey!

109 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:02:58pm

You don’t see Groupers this size very often anymore.

110 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 6:04:00pm

re: #102 freetoken

Not all the GOP is proto-fascist, but I think the anti-immigrants are getting there.

The xenophobes are the clearest example, but I think it goes significantly further than that.

1) The fiscal conservatives are getting closer and closer to “useless mouths” rhetoric every year.

2) The social conservatives and xenophobes are busily seeking scapegoats (gays and Muslims).

3) The increasing reliance on tribal loyalties and symbolism instead of any rational arguments is also telling. If a video of Obama were shown at the 2016 GOP convention, the two-minute hate of 1984 would immediately occur.

111 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 6:04:05pm

re: #109 darthstar

You don’t see Groupers this size very often anymore.

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Mmmm. Grouper.

112 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 6:07:15pm

re: #104 Feline Fearless Leader

The kid is looking directly into the sun. That will spoil just about anyone’s picture.

I never like pictures of myself, but the worst one of my life was this kind of shot (looking into the sun). The end result in the local paper was that I looked like a teenage axe murderer.

113 freetoken  May 27, 2015 6:07:24pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

Tribalism dies hard.

Anyway, the proto-fuhrer that was at AmRen was Matt Tait, who is mentioned in this article:

British Nazi Jihadis: Fanatics use ISIS training video to prepare to fight race war

They are training their own militia, and among other things he showed a video at the AmRen meeting about his little army.

114 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:07:25pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

You just know Chuck Johnson has already registered a sock puppet with Tor and is reading everything tweeted about him.

Good. I hope he sees this!

115 freetoken  May 27, 2015 6:08:42pm

All these gun-loving militias in the US who want to fight at the border… these are the future recruits for the American branch of the great Aryan army.

116 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 6:10:25pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

If CCJ had been a better RWNJ grifter, we could have seen the ultimate RWNJ presidential ticket: Palin - Johnson (i.e., Quitter - Shitter)

117 Iwouldprefernotto  May 27, 2015 6:10:28pm

re: #101 #FergusonFireside

See ya’ll later. Time Warner sent me a free move for some disruption in service I missed (thank dog) Going to watch Selma.

If that’s not worth $115 per month, I don’t know what is.

118 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:12:18pm

“Will not be restored” - that means he’s pretty much screwed, right?

119 A Cranky One  May 27, 2015 6:12:44pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Mmmm. Grouper.

Rock grouper?

…

120 freetoken  May 27, 2015 6:12:47pm

Here’s their proto-SS:

donotlink.com

121 Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2015 6:13:42pm

re: #106 Lidane

Haha, this is awesome:

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I can think of a few people who deserve one of these, but they’re not worth spending the money on. ROFL.

I’d send a few to Bryan Fischer but I’m afraid he’d like them too much.

122 freetoken  May 27, 2015 6:14:17pm

Never trust a para-military group who quotes Nietzsche in their title page.

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2015 6:17:25pm

this is true:

niterz, lizardz!

124 Lidane  May 27, 2015 6:20:09pm

Quick question: Is Time Warner incompetent or do they just go out of their way to provide shitty internet speeds? I’m supposedly paying for a 50/5 internet connection but the download speeds are shit.

125 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 6:20:58pm

Funny. But it needs the closing scene where the whole cast walks down an alley together.

…

126 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:22:07pm

So am I to understand that our Charles is the Highlander of C Johnsons on teh Twitter?

127 TedStriker  May 27, 2015 6:22:52pm

re: #126 darthstar

So am I to understand that our Charles is the Highlander of C Johnsons on teh Twitter?

Well, there can be only one…

128 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:28:21pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Facists, eh? They must be really into faces over there at GoatNews.

129 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:28:47pm
130 Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2015 6:29:45pm

re: #124 Lidane

Quick question: Is Time Warner incompetent or do they just go out of their way to provide shitty internet speeds? I’m supposedly paying for a 50/5 internet connection but the download speeds are shit.

When you have a monopoly you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want.

131 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 6:30:20pm
132 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:30:30pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

Facists, eh? They must be really into faces over there at GoatNews.

Well, we know Chuck reads LGF. He fixed the spelling error of ‘Facists’ on his popup, but he still hasn’t spotted the misspelling of ‘controled’[sic]

133 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:31:30pm

re: #118 darthstar

“Will not be restored” - that means he’s pretty much screwed, right?

Shitcanned, dunzo, deep-sixed, banned for life.

We hope.

134 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:32:54pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

Shitcanned, dunzo, deep-sixed, banned for life.

We hope.

Well, his @chuckcjohnson is permanently terminated. Looking at his site, I see he added bitcoin to his accepted donations. Stupid fucker.

135 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 27, 2015 6:34:11pm

re: #129 darthstar

He’d might as well be a Duggar.

Another family that will not Google their own name.

136 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 6:35:50pm
137 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:36:04pm

Well, this will take a few days to fix.

138 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 6:36:23pm

DD, some people were able to watch this movie objectively, well not me.

gotdambit

139 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 6:37:26pm

Dana is still freaking out, stamping her little foot in her fuckme stilettos, SHE MIGHT SHOOT SOMEBODY

140 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 6:37:31pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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It really must make Chucky’s blood boil that you got the last laugh.

141 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 6:37:44pm

re: #124 Lidane

ha, I’m watching a free movie for payment of some outage I missed.

142 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 6:38:26pm

Not allowing Dana to control the conversation=WAR ON WOMENS!!!!!!

Meet the new Chuck Johnson, in high heels and MOAR GUNZ.

143 Belafon  May 27, 2015 6:39:18pm

re: #139 Lord Of The Pies

Dana is still freaking out, stamping her little foot in her fuckme stilettos, SHE MIGHT SHOOT SOMEBODY

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And Chuck totally meant “in a investigative reporter way” when talking about taking out Deray.

//

144 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:39:35pm

As I was driving home today, through a bit of rural farm country, I saw a 4x8 sign someone had painted and put on their property. I should have stopped to take a picture, but it read, “Coming Soon - Jefferson, the 51st State” - I fucking love our Northern California teabaggers sometimes…they’re so creative.

145 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:40:39pm

Prosecutors in Arapahoe County, CO released the notebook that the theater massacre perpetrator sent to his psychiatrist just hours before he slaughtered 12 and wounded 70 in a movie theater. I looked at it. Chilling stuff. Very chilling stuff. At one point he just writes ‘Why?’ in crooked cursive over and over for five or so pages.

146 Joe Bacon  May 27, 2015 6:40:45pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Real conspiracies can happen.

I’ve been wondering which Republi-crook is Putin’s man in the race. Walker seems a pretty good bet. Given the huge resources available in the conspiracy industry and the Republican base though, Vlad may in fact have more than one candidate in his pocket.

For many years, conservatives in this country turned over every rock and looked under every bed trying to unmask Russian agents of influence. They did a lot of damage but never found much in the way of real agents.

Today, with the communists gone and with Alex Jones’s effusive praise of Putin, and the vast influence of the Russian government outlet rt.com on the American right, real Russian influence on American public life is happening right before our eyes with little notice from anyone.

Is the far right becoming a Russian fifth column? Is the conspiracy industry and its strike arm, the militia movement, orchestrated from the Kremlin? The American far right militias, for example, are a close analog of the kind of irregular forces Putin likes to use in Ukraine and other places.

I know liberals and leftists are averse to such thinking for obvious historical reasons but the evidence against alleged communist “agents of influence” in the 40s and 50s was as nothing compared to the current Russian regime’s real, obvious influence over the right wing in this country.

I honestly believe you’re on to something!

147 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:44:12pm

The notebook also has him expounding on the pros and cons of a bombing, biological warfare, serial murder, or mass murder. He chose the latter then expounded on the pros and cons of an airport or a movie theater.

It made me sick to my stomach when I read it.

148 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 6:45:38pm

re: #144 darthstar

As I was driving home today, through a bit of rural farm country, I saw a 4x8 sign someone had painted and put on their property. I should have stopped to take a picture, but it read, “Coming Soon - Jefferson, the 51st State” - I fucking love our Northern California teabaggers sometimes…they’re so creative.

Reminds me of a trip to Carmel, 2009 or so. We were staying/working in the most exquisite rich person’s cottage. Driving by a cliff front prime property, guy had the 8 x 12 Ron Paul sign. He’s probably well known around those parts.

149 darthstar  May 27, 2015 6:45:54pm

One more thing about my dad before I close the laptop for a bit. Yes, I love him dearly, but he and my mom only watch Fox. She put Megyn Kelly on last night and said, “Bill, it’s your girlfriend!” (So the T&A aspect does work)

As I was leaving today, he asked me again to reconsider taking some of my guns home with me…especially my .44-40, as it’s lever action and the safest gun a person can have (seriously…you can’t accidentally shoot yourself until you put a round in the chamber). Anyway, his reasoning? In the next few years we’re going to have race riots. Race riots. Ugh.

150 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 6:46:09pm

Back to Selma.

151 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 6:49:48pm

re: #149 darthstar

One more thing about my dad before I close the laptop for a bit. Yes, I love him dearly, but he and my mom only watch Fox. She put Megyn Kelly on last night and said, “Bill, it’s your girlfriend!” (So the T&A aspect does work)

As I was leaving today, he asked me again to reconsider taking some of my guns home with me…especially my .44-40, as it’s lever action and the safest gun a person can have (seriously…you can’t accidentally shoot yourself until you put a round in the chamber). Anyway, his reasoning? In the next few years we’re going to have race riots. Race riots. Ugh.

Damn, that’s some unfortunate noise. Kind of the same thing happened a week or two ago with my pops during a phone conversation. We were talking politics and Hillary came up. We got into a screaming match, he asked “Are you gonna vote for Hillary?!?” I said ‘maybe.’ He hung up on me.

152 Dave In Austin  May 27, 2015 6:53:16pm
153 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 6:55:18pm

re: #151 teleskiguy

Damn, that’s some unfortunate noise. Kind of the same thing happened a week or two ago with my pops during a phone conversation. We were talking politics and Hillary came up. We got into a screaming match, he asked “Are you gonna vote for Hillary?!?” I said ‘maybe.’ He hung up on me.

Getting religion out of politics has the useful side effect of reducing the tendency to view political opponents as a literal anti-Christ (or equivalent).

The Republicans have spoiled this by turning their politics into a religion (a particularly primitive and obnoxious cult, one might add).

154 freetoken  May 27, 2015 6:58:54pm

re: #149 darthstar

Unfortunate programming.

Fortunately for our society, most anyone who watches Faux is already old enough to not be able to really do much.

But vote.

Which is a problem, but remember that for any given time-slot only 1% of the American population watches Faux. 99% don’t.

However, because of the political connections of Murdoch and his underling that runs Faux, it has an outsized influence on one of our political parties.

155 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  May 27, 2015 7:00:45pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

This is the same guy, who said no one I know even talks about this, when it was going through the Wisconsin legislature.

He’s a bubble boy. I know many folks think he’s a savvy politician, but in reality he just surrounds himself with yes men and grifters. He’s a clueless fuck.

156 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:00:54pm

re: #149 darthstar

One more thing about my dad before I close the laptop for a bit. Yes, I love him dearly, but he and my mom only watch Fox. She put Megyn Kelly on last night and said, “Bill, it’s your girlfriend!” (So the T&A aspect does work)

As I was leaving today, he asked me again to reconsider taking some of my guns home with me…especially my .44-40, as it’s lever action and the safest gun a person can have (seriously…you can’t accidentally shoot yourself until you put a round in the chamber). Anyway, his reasoning? In the next few years we’re going to have race riots. Race riots. Ugh.

My mom is buying 3 Springfield 9mm pistols so she’ll have one at the ready on every floor in her house. A couple of years ago she was convinced there were going to be race riots when Obama lost the election. Her and my stepdad are pretty wingnutty. It used to be whenever I’d visit or they’d come down here and we went back to their place or hotel room they’d have left Fox News on the entire time they were gone. They eventually stopped after I kept teasing them about it, asked if they were trying to brainwash the furniture, afraid the sofa and minibar might rise up in a class revolt.

157 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 7:02:36pm

re: #109 darthstar

You don’t see Groupers this size very often anymore.

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And he has to release it. Goliath Groupers are a protected species, no harvest allowed. (and as a side note, until 2001 they were known as Jewfish, but the American Fisheries Society stopped using that name)

RBS

158 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 7:04:01pm

re: #132 darthstar

Well, we know Chuck reads LGF. He fixed the spelling error of ‘Facists’ on his popup, but he still hasn’t spotted the misspelling of ‘controled’[sic]

Facism…. Judging others by the appearance of their faces. I can understand why upChuck would be so against that.

159 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:04:18pm

Oh Gawd. Chuck’s terrible “research expert” think’s they’ve got something clever planned.

160 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 7:05:47pm

LOL

161 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 7:06:12pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

My mom is buying 3 Springfield 9mm pistols so she’ll have one at the ready on every floor in her house. A couple of years ago she was convinced there were going to be race riots when Obama lost the election. Her and my stepdad are pretty wingnutty. It used to be whenever I’d visit or they’d come down here and we went back to their place or hotel room they’d have left Fox News on the entire time they were gone. They eventually stopped after I kept teasing them about it, asked if they were trying to brainwash the furniture, afraid the sofa and minibar might rise up in a class revolt.

The footstool is probably the greatest revolutionary threat in the living room furniture.

162 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 7:08:17pm

re: #161 EPR-radar

The footstool is probably the greatest revolutionary threat in the living room furniture.

The Footstool is the cousin of the Ottoman, which we all know is Turkish. ‘Nuff Said. ////

163 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 7:09:18pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Oh Gawd. Chuck’s terrible “research expert” think’s they’ve got something clever planned.

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leave burning bags of poop on Twitters front porch, then ring the bell and run off?

RBS

164 Kragar  May 27, 2015 7:09:29pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Oh Gawd. Chuck’s terrible “research expert” think’s they’ve got something clever planned.

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165 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 7:14:39pm

HOWDY HO!

166 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 7:16:35pm
167 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:17:03pm
168 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 7:19:21pm

re: #14 S’latch

Someone has already done one similar. I read it yesterday when I decided to read some more about him elsewhere. It was really hilarious.

If it was mine at gotnwes.com, I thank you. If it was someone else’s, please provide the link so I can have some lulz, too.

169 Lord Of The Pies  May 27, 2015 7:19:32pm
170 freetoken  May 27, 2015 7:22:08pm

I think I have had quite enough of neo-fascists/racists for one day.

On some of those AmRen videos I followed some links then to the twitteri who tweet that stuff. Yes, CCJ could have made a living catering to that crowd, but his self-destructive tendencies got in the way.

I know this - I don’t like how the anti-immigrant crowd is being mainstreamed by desperate candidates searching for that last primary vote just so they can go on Fox for the next couple of years in their own shows.

171 Sionainn  May 27, 2015 7:25:39pm

Sorry I’m late to the party and haven’t been able to read all the comments, but Walker is a complete dumbass. The ultrasounds that people pull out to show others are abdominal ultrasounds, not invasive transvaginal ultrasounds. Fucking moron.

172 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  May 27, 2015 7:26:36pm

re: #171 Sionainn

This.

173 Lancelot Link  May 27, 2015 7:28:24pm

re: #113 freetoken

They are training their own militia, and among other things he showed a video at the AmRen meeting about his little army.

Blackshorts!
…

174 makeitstop  May 27, 2015 7:31:07pm

re: #139 Lord Of The Pies

Dana is still freaking out, stamping her little foot in her fuckme stilettos, SHE MIGHT SHOOT SOMEBODY

And she’ll answer every. single. tweet.

Doesn’t she have something better to do than yell at people on the internet?

175 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 7:32:27pm

re: #173 Lancelot Link

The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you’re someone. You hear them shouting “Heil, Spode!” and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: “Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?”

—Bertie Wooster in The Code of the Woosters (1938)

176 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 7:37:16pm

re: #174 makeitstop

She hasn’t answered mine.

177 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 7:40:56pm

Wow. Even Betsy Rothstein is now making fun of Chuck Johnson.

dailycaller.com

178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 7:43:27pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I started to write an article about Chuck Johnson’s absurdly dumb post about being persecuted by the cool kids, in which he switches from first person to third person and back to first person again, but naaah.

re: #14 S’latch

I made a page of my version of the latest ChuckWhine. littlegreenfootballs.com

It’s a bit of self-promotion, but I hope in a good way.

179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 7:47:37pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Wow. Even Betsy Rothstein is now making fun of Chuck Johnson.

dailycaller.com

CCJ seems unable to stay on topic. His lawyer, Burns, had the same problem when he was interviewed the other day. Birds of a feather.

180 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:49:25pm

Recommend everyone keep reporting these as continued violations by Johnson. Knutsen thinks she can thumb her nose at @twitter by acting as his nominal intermediary and keep providing Johnson access to the service.

181 makeitstop  May 27, 2015 7:51:42pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

Oh Gawd. Chuck’s terrible “research expert” think’s they’ve got something clever planned.

[Embedded content]

My guess as to what it is:

Chuck has coordinated with a handful of fellow lunatics (Shannon, Weev, maybe a bunch of random schmoes) and is going to compose a series of tweets that said schmoes will all post at the same time.

It won’t help his chances with Twitter a bit, but it’ll get attention back on the Award Winning Journalist, where it always belongs.
/////

182 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 7:52:28pm

GET YOUR FILTHY UNWASHED DISEASE-RIDDEN BROWN SKIN BODY AWAY FROM ME!!!!!!

183 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:53:33pm

Wanna bet?

184 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 7:54:01pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

Reported.

185 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 7:55:18pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

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Recommend everyone keep reporting these as continued violations by Johnson. Knutsen thinks she can thumb her nose at @twitter by acting as his nominal intermediary and keep providing Johnson access to the service.

re: #163 RealityBasedSteve

leave burning bags of poop on Twitters front porch, then ring the bell and run off?

RBS

Hey, I was right! It’s pretty much the equivalent of flaming bags of poop at least. And am sure that Twitter will view it much the same way.

RBS

186 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 7:56:12pm
187 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 7:56:13pm

re: #181 makeitstop

My guess as to what it is:

Chuck has coordinated with a handful of fellow lunatics (Shannon, Weev, maybe a bunch of random schmoes) and is going to compose a series of tweets that said schmoes will all post at the same time.

It won’t help his chances with Twitter a bit, but it’ll get attention back on the Award Winning Journalist, where it always belongs.
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Just posted it. He’s going to have them all try to resurrect an official Got News account ostensibly under their control, daring Twitter to ban them.

This is really where Twitter’s Report function sucks, because there doesn’t seem to be a way to report someone as a repeat violator of past banned accounts. If there is and I’m missing it somebody please point it out.

188 bratwurst  May 27, 2015 7:57:34pm
189 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 7:58:24pm

re: #149 darthstar

190 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 8:00:41pm

re: #46 lawhawk

Mandatory ultrasounds - the cost of which are borne by the woman who seeks an abortion. Adding to the cost of health care by mandating a procedure that is wholly medically unnecessary in most instances.

There is no reason for this procedure to be conducted. It’s supposed to be between the doctor and their patient, but instead the GOP has decided that they know better than the medical community. Way to show your small government credentials by being so small that you can fit up in the lady bits with room to spare for an extraneous and unnecessary medical procedure.

And for all the talk about fiscal responsibility, this procedure is fiscally irresponsible by adding to health care costs for all - but especially for the poor and those in need of an abortion.

That, apparently, trumps all else - add to the costs, make it impossible to get a legal abortion, and the GOP claims victory. Never mind that they’ve committed themselves to dismantling the safety net, wont provide assistance to parents with newborns or kids.

More to the point, the reason an intra-vaginal wand is necessary is because the “human” can’t be found externally. WAY too small and undeveloped.

If the definition of human death is the lack a functional brain (so we don’t become vivisectionists for transplanted organs), then why isn’t this a reasonable working definition of human life?

Oh, we’ve let people whose morality is based on the tribal history of a small population in the Middle East, which is God’s Truth, AND the teachings of a heretic to the first group, who had him killed by the Romans, which are also God’s Truth, seize our political discourse.

Nice.

191 bratwurst  May 27, 2015 8:04:08pm

Hey everybody…fucking asshole Kevin D. Williamson is spouting garbage in a publication noted as a home for white nationalists!

192 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 8:05:45pm

re: #191 bratwurst

Hey everybody…fucking asshole Kevin D. Williamson is spouting garbage in a publication noted as a home for white nationalists!

193 allegro  May 27, 2015 8:06:14pm

re: #191 bratwurst

Hey everybody…fucking asshole Kevin D. Williamson is spouting garbage in a publication noted as a home for white nationalists!

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Actually that sounds like a good description of NRO collective thinking. These guys really are good at projection.

194 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 8:08:15pm

Nevermind, I found the long form and spelled it all out for Twitter.

195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 8:10:43pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Nevermind, I found the long form and spelled it all out for Twitter.

An example of CCJ’s loyal fans.

196 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 8:10:53pm

re: #191 bratwurst

Hey everybody…fucking asshole Kevin D. Williamson is spouting garbage in a publication noted as a home for white nationalists!

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Leave it to a conservative propaganda rag to keep perpetuating the BS about fascism being anything but the logical outgrowth of conservative policies.

197 RealityBasedSteve  May 27, 2015 8:11:14pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Have a good night and remember to put any food out on the counter in the fridge or we’ll have upChucks all over the kitchen in the morning.

RBS

198 Feline Fearless Leader  May 27, 2015 8:13:22pm
Winter is coming

Andirondacks in winter of ‘77 I believe. Possible location is at/near Saranac Lake since my family would cross-country ski some trails in that area.

199 allegro  May 27, 2015 8:13:35pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Nevermind, I found the long form and spelled it all out for Twitter.

Even if they don’t ban the sock for being sockish, good bet that it will be banned within 24 hours for being assish. Chuck can’t help it. He’s in major “I dare ya” mode.

200 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 8:14:47pm

re: #190 austin_blue

More to the point, the reason an intra-vaginal wand is necessary is because the “human” can’t be found externally. WAY too small and undeveloped.

If the definition of human death is the lack a functional brain (so we don’t become vivisectionists for transplanted organs), then why isn’t this a reasonable working definition of human life?

Oh, we’ve let people whose morality is based on the tribal history of a small population in the Middle East, which is God’s Truth, AND the teachings of a heretic to the first group, who had him killed by the Romans, which are also God’s Truth, seize our political discourse.

Nice.

I read the bible some time ago, and I certainly don’t recall any categorical abortion ban in there.

So the abortion fixation of US RWNJs is more a matter of political convenience than anything having to do with the relevant religious traditions.

201 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 8:16:59pm

Here is the long form for reporting Twitter violations BTW. It lets you report the tweet and then type in the larger context, including pasting other tweets by the account, other related accounts and pointing out the previously banned accounts involved.

202 Amory Blaine  May 27, 2015 8:24:45pm

…

203 allegro  May 27, 2015 8:28:34pm

Goodbye Rockets, you are so fucked. It was a fantastic season that ends tonight. Turn out the liiiiiiights, the party’s overrrrrrr.

204 freetoken  May 27, 2015 8:33:33pm
205 EPR-radar  May 27, 2015 8:36:19pm

Another entry for the freaks usually give advance warning files. dailykos.com

Ambulatory cesspit Charles Murray sets forth a wingnut wet dream:

The emergence of many billion-dollar-plus private fortunes over the last three decades,” Murray writes, “has enabled the private sector to take on ambitious national or even international tasks that formerly could be done only by nation-states.” Murray’s most ambitious proposal is a legal defense fund, which “could get started if just one wealthy American cared enough to contribute, say, a few hundred million dollars,” that would essentially give that wealthy American veto power over much of U.S. law. […]

The federal government, Murray claims, cannot enforce the entirety of federal law “without voluntary public compliance.” Federal resources are limited, and only a small fraction of these limited resources have been directed towards enforcement. Thus, Murray argues, by simply refusing to comply with the law and contesting every enforcement action in court, regulated entities can effectively drain the government’s resources and prevent it from engaging in meaningful enforcement.

As a pointed reminder to those who think the GOP is in any way defensible, let it be noted that supposedly moderate Jeb Bush is a Charles Murray fanboy.

206 Lidane  May 27, 2015 8:39:12pm

Going out with a whimper, not a bang:

207 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 8:40:43pm

re: #206 Lidane

Going out with a whimper, not a bang:

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Good. Kirk Watson is a one-balled stud.

208 freetoken  May 27, 2015 8:41:27pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

Speaking of Ann Coulter and Sam Francis, in one of the AmRen videos, during a session dedicated to the memory of Sam Francis, a story was recounted of Ann having a meal with… yes, Sam Francis.

Birds of a feather and such.

209 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 8:42:34pm

re: #206 Lidane

Going out with a whimper, not a bang:

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That’s gonna stick in more than a few craws.

210 Belafon  May 27, 2015 8:45:14pm

re: #206 Lidane

Going out with a whimper, not a bang:

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Let’s hope so, but I could see Abbott doing a special session just for this. And another one to deny funding for Jade Helm.

211 Lidane  May 27, 2015 8:47:07pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

That’s gonna stick in more than a few craws.

So is this:

The open-carry bill, inches from the finish line, was derailed Wednesday by law enforcement objections to language limiting the ability of police to stop and question those with a gun.

Passed by both houses, House Bill 910 was back in the House, where its author urged representatives to send it to Gov. Greg Abbott by agreeing to changes made by the Senate.

What is typically a quick vote with little discussion, however, broke down into an intense debate over an amendment that bars police from stopping somebody with an openly displayed handgun solely to check for a concealed handgun license.

It’s so weird that cops want the ability to ensure that an openly armed yahoo is licensed to carry a gun. Don’t they know that only good guys open carry?

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212 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 8:55:11pm

re: #211 Lidane

So is this:

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It’s so weird that cops want the ability to ensure that an openly armed yahoo is licensed to carry a gun. Don’t they know that only good guys open carry?

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Yeah, because we keep hearing that if we control guns, only criminals will have them. But if we expand open carry, then…

Oh, wait, my brain froze up.

What was I saying?

213 ipsos  May 27, 2015 8:57:43pm

If I were designing Twitter’s abuse-catchers, I’m thinking I’d give very heavy weight to reports involving accounts that are very new and have very few followers.

Like, for instance @GotNewsResearch.

Plus, all the media coverage of the Chuckpocalypse pretty much obligates Twitter to keep acting quickly every time Chuck resurfaces, right?

214 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:00:58pm

re: #211 Lidane

The amendment has had a busy history. It was added in the House by Rep. Harold Dutton, D-Houston, as protection for minorities who, he argued, would be more likely to be detained by police.

He’s a clown but he’s right. Just illustrates how open carry is a bad idea from the get go though. If you can’t trust your police to enforce it in a colorblind fashion and your only solution is to make them turn a blind eye to everyone openly packing heat, never stopping them without articulable suspicion of why they might not have a permit, maybe the entire idea of letting people openly pack heat in public just sucks.

215 RadicalModerate  May 27, 2015 9:03:25pm

Remember Amber Vinson, the nurse who contracted Ebola, and was the victim of a vicious smear campaign by Chuck C?

As a part of her diagnosis, she provided blood samples to a biotech lab in hopes that an effective treatment for the virus could be developed.

That lab succeeded - and have pledged to not profit from it, and to make the results of the project readily available to anyone.

Blood from Dallas nurse used to create anti-Ebola drug

“Our technology offered us the ability to develop a curative therapy to a deadly disease that was ravaging nations and even threatened us here at home,” said John Simard of XBiotech. “It offered the potential to develop a therapy with unparalleled speed.”

XBiotech has a unique approach to curing disease. It uses real biological material to make new drugs by replicating the antibodies developed by survivors. These are true human antibodies, rather than chemically-manufactured ones.

Once the antibody material is cloned, the company grows the antibodies using a biological process.

“We’re going ahead with this project on the basis of making the [resulting] drug available to everyone, one way or another,” Simard said.

Just as Vinson donated her blood, the company pledges not to take a profit on any vaccine that is derived from it. Depending on where the drug is used, there may be different rules in approving it for use, Simard said.

216 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 9:04:08pm

re: #213 ipsos

If I were designing Twitter’s abuse-catchers, I’m thinking I’d give very heavy weight to reports involving accounts that are very new and have very few followers.

Like, for instance @GotNewsResearch.

Plus, all the media coverage of the Chuckpocalypse pretty much obligates Twitter to keep acting quickly every time Chuck resurfaces, right?

One can hope, but it takes Twittizens ( Twittizens? Really? I just made that up, but is it legit?) to report abuses. I don’t have anything to do with Twitter, Facebook, or any other form of social media except for this joint.

I’m a Proud Social Media Luddite.

So there.

217 freetoken  May 27, 2015 9:04:32pm

In the latest Mullah Mohler Missive he attacks the Boy Scouts for you know what:

A Requiem for the Boy Scouts

The Boy Scouts were doomed the moment the national leadership decided to preserve the organization at the cost of the values and ideals that gave it birth. Speaking to a national meeting of Boy Scouts of America leaders, President Robert Gates, former Secretary of Defense and former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, called for the B.S.A. to abandon its policy of allowing the participation of openly gay scouts, but not the involvement of openly-gay adults.

[…]

What Gates did not mention was the fact that the inclusion of openly gay leaders and scouts, along with the challenge that already comes from the feminism and and transgender advocates, makes the very existence of the Boy Scouts ever more vulnerable.

[…]

218 freetoken  May 27, 2015 9:06:36pm

I realize that some may object to assigning the term of “mullah” to Albert Mohler, in the sense that there are plenty of mullahs out there who may not be idiotic assholes.

But I’m aiming this to the self-avowed evangelicals in this society who are blind to how similar their religious leaders are to the Muslim religious leaders of whom they are supposedly afraid.

219 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:07:03pm

re: #216 austin_blue

One can hope, but it takes Twittizens ( Twittizens? Really? I just made that up, but is it legit?) to report abuses. I don’t have anything to do with Twitter, Facebook, or any other form of social media except for this joint.

I’m a Proud Social Media Luddite.

So there.

Lucky you. I have MySpace (haven’t checked that fucker in many years), Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, a little-used Tumblr, uh, here I guess, am I missing anything?

I wasn’t cool enough to get on UpDog, and I don’t get Snapchat at all.

220 freetoken  May 27, 2015 9:09:27pm

re: #216 austin_blue

One can hope, but it takes Twittizens ( Twittizens? Really? I just made that up, but is it legit?)

Today I’m using the term twitteri, but that may change tomorrow.

221 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:12:23pm

re: #220 freetoken

Today I’m using the term twitteri, but that may change tomorrow.

Twitterati? It’s something UpChuck used, still, kind of has a ring to it.

222 BeachDem  May 27, 2015 9:13:28pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

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The blonde behind Hillary is my friend, Sally. And Hillary did not talk with a twang. At least, it certainly didn’t stand out to me, and I was in the fifth row.

223 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 9:14:23pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

Twitterati? It’s something UpChuck used, still, kind of has a ring to it.

I’ve seen twitterati used elsewhere, as an extension of literati.

224 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 9:14:32pm

re: #217 freetoken

In the latest Mullah Mohler Missive he attacks the Boy Scouts for you know what:

A Requiem for the Boy Scouts

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If you replaced “Boy Scouts” with “Catholic Church”…

Here’s the deal. I want openly gay men to be Scoutmasters. The vast majority of gay men aren’t pedophiles, just like the vast majority of straight men aren’t pedophiles. It’s the child predators we have to identify and prevent from having contact with their erotic ideals.

The range of human sexuality covers all bases. We just need to protect our children. The rest of it is cool between consenting adults.

225 #FergusonFireside  May 27, 2015 9:15:15pm

What I learned this week.

Because of a Department of Justice investigation and final report:

Police must render first aid to those they kill.

Police may no longer bash suspects in the head with their service weapons,

226 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:15:59pm

re: #222 BeachDem

The blonde behind Hillary is my friend, Sally. And Hillary did not talk with a twang. At least, it certainly didn’t stand out to me, and I was in the fifth row.

Yeah, you were there! Cool!

I had a chance to go to Mile High Stadium in 2008 for Obama’s nomination, but I had just enrolled in school to finish my B.A., no time for that! Wish I could have gone.

227 freetoken  May 27, 2015 9:17:32pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

I created a poll for a Page, but haven’t published it.

My choices proffered:

Twitteri
Twitterazzi
Twittizens
Twits

I try to avoid ideas that come out of the brain of CCJ.

228 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 9:19:27pm

re: #223 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve seen twitterati used elsewhere, as an extension of literati.

Meh. In many cases, that would be inaccurate. In the case of CCJ, that would be a stone cold bucket of bullshit.

229 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:21:40pm

re: #227 freetoken

I created a poll for a Page, but haven’t published it.

My choices proffered:

Twitteri
Twitterazzi
Twittizens
Twits

I try to avoid ideas that come out of the brain of CCJ.

wheatdogg saw Twitterati somewhere else #223, so I think that should go in the poll. I’d say twats, but, y’know.

230 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:23:15pm

OK I swear I’m done editing my #229

231 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:23:32pm

Tweeps is a thing, but it usually means one’s followers and not Twitter users in general.

232 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:24:25pm

Fuckin’ Birds would probably be my go to term.

233 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:25:17pm

I hate typos.

234 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:27:58pm
235 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:29:09pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

In the long form I filled out I suggested a total ban for Shannon.

236 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 9:32:13pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

In the long form I filled out I suggested a total ban for Shannon.

How dare you deny her her first amendment rights!?
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237 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:32:47pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

After that the game plan is probably to try and get Weev / Auernheimer to do the same think, then Peter Duke. Then he’ll try and cycle through his other supporters, attempting to get them one by one to lay down their accounts on the altar of #JeSuisPoopOnTheFloor

238 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:35:38pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

Funny how weev would go to bat for UpChuck, seeing as how UpChuck will make mongrel babies.

239 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:36:18pm

If I ran twitter I’d suspend all of the new account’s followers along with it … stop fucking around.

240 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 9:36:22pm

My #238 is a test of goddamnedfrank’s theory that sarc tags are for lepers. We shall see.

241 BeachDem  May 27, 2015 9:37:53pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

Another entry for the freaks usually give advance warning files. dailykos.com

Ambulatory cesspit Charles Murray sets forth a wingnut wet dream:

As a pointed reminder to those who think the GOP is in any way defensible, let it be noted that supposedly moderate Jeb Bush is a Charles Murray fanboy.

In the comments, another factoid about Murray I hadn’t heard before. (What a charmer that guy is—no wonder he’s such a hero to some on the right.)

As City Pages editor Steve Perry wrote back in the last century:

Near the end of his high school days in Newton, Iowa, Murray and some of his pals went out one night and burned a cross next door to the police station.

To my knowledge, the reams of coverage accorded Murray for his pseudo-scientific apologia on behalf of racism have produced only two mentions of this incident. One was in a 1994 New York Times Magazine profile, the other a bit later on the Donahue show.

In both instances Murray protested that he had no idea as to the racial significance of cross-burning. There were only two black families in Newton in those days, an old school chum of his added in the Times piece.

Well. As it happens, I grew up just 30 miles away from Murray’s central Iowa hometown, in an even smaller farming town with no black families at all. But somehow I managed to learn what cross-burning meant by the time I finished high school, and I expect Murray did too.

242 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:40:05pm

You too can be one of Chuck’s pawns.

243 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:46:54pm

re: #240 teleskiguy

My #238 is a test of goddamnedfrank’s theory that sarc tags are for lepers. We shall see.

They totally are man. Lepers and (maybe) newbies. But mostly lepers.

244 Kragar  May 27, 2015 9:47:33pm
245 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 9:50:30pm

Recommend not even responding to this shit via twitter unless for some reason they don’t ban the new account within a day or two. Shannon is parsing a very thin line here. It’s his website / blog, she’s his employee / minion / lackey / research punk / whatever. She’s trying to restore his voice’s access to Twitter, immediately after they banned several of his accounts.

246 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 9:51:57pm

re: #244 Kragar

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Whatever happened to two separate sources, verified?

The “New Journalism” is neither. It’s just yellow journalism, resurrected.

247 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 9:53:58pm

Wut?

248 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 9:56:07pm

Well, here’s a theory that would be interesting for Doctor Who.

That the Missy will end up taking over Clara, and “killing” her, with the Master wearing her body as a suit of sorts.

This happened in the TV Movie in 96, and with Trema during the very, very end of the 4th Doctor era.

I am not sure Moffat would pull that. He may have a reputation for knocking off characters, but this seems dark even for him. That would be George Martin territory.

Not to mention, Doctor Who has a very sizable kiddie audience.

249 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 9:58:16pm

Also, Series 9 will be all 2-Parters. Apparently, Moffat felt the need for a shift.

250 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 9:59:01pm

re: #249 The War TARDIS

Also, Series 9 will be all 2-Parters. Apparently, Moffat felt the need for a shift.

Getting back to the show’s roots.

251 austin_blue  May 27, 2015 10:00:57pm

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams!

252 Charles Johnson  May 27, 2015 10:03:17pm

What a weird reaction to seeing Chuck try to get around being suspended.

253 LastYearsMan  May 27, 2015 10:09:24pm

GOt NEws — because it’s GONE.

254 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:09:32pm

re: #250 Targetpractice

Let’s hope it doesn’t go back to the 5-7th Era, with the no hugs or touching policies under Turner, who helped kill the show.

I like my Sci-Fi to keep the human and emotional element. On this, I am prickly.

Remember, some of the final words of the 11th Doctor:

But times change, and so must I.

Right now, Doctor Who is expanding outside of Britain at increasing speed, especially in the US.

255 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 10:11:26pm

One of my hero pro skiers completed a (most likely) first ski descent in Colorado today.

This is Jagged Peak, in the Weminuche Wilderness.

256 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 10:12:10pm

re: #254 The War TARDIS

Let’s hope it doesn’t go back to the 5-7th Era, with the no hugs or touching policies under Turner, who helped kill the show.

I like my Sci-Fi to keep the human and emotional element. On this, I am prickly.

Remember, some of the final words of the 11th Doctor:

Right now, Doctor Who is expanding outside of Britain at increasing speed, especially in the US.

I rather like Twelve’s approach, namely keeping Clara and others at arm’s length. Makes a lot of sense that a man whose big storylines in recent years have been about how he keeps losing those close to him should go through a time when he wants to keep others at a distance.

257 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 10:16:15pm

re: #255 teleskiguy

Chris Davenport has done a most elite thing on skis. He’s climbed and skied all of Colorado’s 100 highest peaks. Incredible.

258 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:18:04pm

re: #256 Targetpractice

And I would ppoint out that Doctor Who popularity right now is due to his not being so emotionless. Look at the last Christmas episode.

I am wonderfully curious, what era do you want to go back to? Your complaints seem so strangely scattered, I can’t pin it down.

We won’t be going back to the 80’s.

259 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 10:19:46pm

Yeah, this guy is a real riot instigator.

260 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 10:25:22pm

re: #258 The War TARDIS

And I would ppoint out that Doctor Who popularity right now is due to his not being so emotionless. Look at the last Christmas episode.

I am wonderfully curious, what era do you want to go back to? Your complaints seem so strangely scattered, I can’t pin it down.

We won’t be going back to the 80’s.

I think I’m rather partial to the 9th Doctor, which I admit partly is because it was NuWho who sucked me into the franchise and I’m rather sorry that Eccleston left after only one series. I understand his reasons, but I’m still sort of disappointed. As for the old series, I’d probably have to say the 4th Doctor, with his aloof personality and his rather brusk way of dealing with others.

261 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 10:28:55pm
262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 10:35:44pm

I’m watching the CCJ interview with Milo. The boy really is full of himself, talking about the “status of journalism” now and how he’s singlehandedly going to change the social discourse by being deliberately inflammatory, etc.

And that’s only in the first 15 minutes.

Also, Milo looks at the camera from time to time. Chuck almost never does. He’s looking downward or to the right most of the time.

263 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:35:44pm

re: #260 Targetpractice

Wait, what?

The 9th Doctor was so obviously in love with Rose it was hilarious. And cringe-worthy considering how Rose is not that bright, among other flaws.

Though, yes, a good chunk of that reaction is a reaction the Rose fans on Tumblr. They tend to bash every other companion since.

264 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 10:37:08pm

Scary.

265 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 10:37:22pm

re: #263 The War TARDIS

Wait, what?

The 9th Doctor was so obviously in love with Rose it was hilarious. And cringe-worthy considering how Rose is not that bright, among other flaws.

Though, yes, a good chunk of that reaction is a reaction the Rose fans on Tumblr. They tend to bash every other companion since.

Hey! I like Rose, even if she was a little ditzy. That was the first Doctor Who season I really paid any sort of attention to, largely because Rose was Sancho to Who’s Don Quijote.

266 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 10:40:32pm

re: #263 The War TARDIS

The 9th Doctor was so obviously in love with Rose it was hilarious. And cringe-worthy considering how Rose is not that bright, among other flaws.

Has being bright made you happy?

I’ll take genuinely nice over smart any day of the week.

267 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:40:33pm

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I like women who are incredibly smart, and incredibly strong-willed.

This is why I like Clara as companion.

Of course, this is why the fandom for Doctor Who is in constant conflict.

268 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:41:35pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

To me, yes. I would like to be able to hold a conversation with someone.

269 Targetpractice  May 27, 2015 10:41:46pm

re: #263 The War TARDIS

Wait, what?

The 9th Doctor was so obviously in love with Rose it was hilarious. And cringe-worthy considering how Rose is not that bright, among other flaws.

Though, yes, a good chunk of that reaction is a reaction the Rose fans on Tumblr. They tend to bash every other companion since.

I admit it’s been awhile since I’ve seen Series 1, but I found Nine’s infatuation with Rose to be something that developed over the course of the series, and was generally restrained. Of course, that may be in comparison to Ten and how he seemed to be practically glued to her. Consider that Nine was ready to kick her off during “Father’s Day” for breaking the rules, something that Ten would have treated like cutting off a limb.

270 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 10:43:29pm

re: #263 The War TARDIS

Though, yes, a good chunk of that reaction is a reaction the Rose fans on Tumblr. They tend to bash every other companion since.

I have no idea what you could possibly be talking about.

271 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:46:29pm

re: #269 Targetpractice

Point shared on the kicking off thing. The Doctor has done that to literally every NuWho companion. Though the 12th’s threat to Clara was likely the dumbest instance.

As in the Doctor being weapons-grade stupid. He even admits it.

CLARA: You don’t actually believe all this, do you? Hiding creatures, things from under the bed.
(Bang, bang, bang. Scrape, scrape, scrape.)
DOCTOR: What’s that in the mirror, or the corner of your eye? What’s that footstep following, but never passing by?
(Bang, bang, bang.)
CLARA: Did we come to the end of the universe because of a nursery rhyme?
(Bang, bang, bang. Bang, bang, bang. The Doctor sonicks the hatch to Unlocked. The mechanism starts to turn.)
CLARA: That’s you turning it, right?
DOCTOR: No. Get in the Tardis.
CLARA: Why?
DOCTOR: I have to know.
CLARA: Doctor. Doctor
DOCTOR: The Tardis, now!
CLARA: Okay, okay. Somebody is out there. Now we know, we can leave. Oh, Doctor!
DOCTOR: It’s a pressure lock. Releasing it could’ve triggered the opening mechanism.
CLARA: Is there even an atmosphere out there?
DOCTOR: There is an air shell round the ship. Why are you still here?
CLARA: Because I am not going to leave you in danger!
DOCTOR: Then you will never travel with me again, because that is the deal! Tardis, now! Do as you are told!
(Clara runs to the Tardis.)
CLARA: You’re an idiot.
(She goes inside.)
DOCTOR: I know.

272 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:48:38pm

re: #270 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Rose fans. They can get strange.

re: #271 The War TARDIS

Actually, I take that back.

Donna was never threatened. They just had this stupid thing for the first 3 episodes of the series where she would threaten to leave, which really seemed cheap.

273 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 10:49:25pm

re: #272 The War TARDIS

Rose fans. They can get strange.

/watches the point fly on by.

274 goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2015 10:53:31pm

The internecine squabbles of Who companion fandom …

275 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 10:56:33pm

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

Yep.

re: #273 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I see what you are saying.

In my case, It was the last episode of Series 7B that pushed me out of a Depression. So, I end of being a hardline Clara fan as a result.

My Depression was really, really bad. After the episode, I had a realization, and it helped. A lot.

276 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 10:57:03pm
277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 11:00:17pm

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

The internecine squabbles of Who companion fandom …

I’m glad most of this conversation is over my head. I’ve only watched the Rose episodes, and not even all of them, and a smattering of other Doctors over the years. For whatever reason, it hasn’t grabbed me as a “OMG I’ve got to watch this next Who episode, or my life will be incomplete!!” kind of thing.

Apologies to anyone who falls into that category. Different folks, different strokes, and all.

278 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 11:01:23pm

re: #275 The War TARDIS

I see what you are saying.

In my case, It was the last episode of Series 7B that pushed me out of a depression.so, I end of being a hardline Clara fan as a result.

My Depression was really, really bad. After the episode, I had a realization, and it helped. A lot.

And while you’re at it, you end up being exactly the sort of fan that you disparage others for being. It’s a pattern I see in other places too and something I would recommend reflecting on.

Seriously, I don’t care that much one way or another but the constant “Clara is best” makes me come close to despising her and I’ve seen exactly one episode that might include her. (I’m not exactly a big Dr. Who fan.)

279 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 11:04:56pm

re: #277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve been obsessed with only one TV show while it was airing, and that was Breaking Bad. I won’t soon forget it. A friend of mine in Ft. Collins showed me the first three episodes he DVRd, episode 4 hadn’t aired yet. I was astonished. This is on TV?!? The dad from Malcolm In The Middle is cooking meth?!? I was hooked from there and I made sure to catch every brand new episode on Sunday nights over the next six years to find out what happens to Walter White.

Riveting television, Shakespearian in scope, IMHO.

280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 11:05:13pm

re: #278 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And while you’re at it, you end up being exactly the sort of fan that you disparage others for being. It’s a pattern I see in other places too and something I would recommend reflecting on.

Seriously, I don’t care that much one way or another but the constant “Clara is best” makes me come close to despising her and I’ve seen exactly one episode that might include her. (I’m not exactly a big Dr. Who fan.)

It’s just a TV show.

281 The War TARDIS  May 27, 2015 11:06:31pm

re: #278 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sorry. I will try to tone it down here.

282 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 11:12:25pm

re: #280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s just a TV show.

Sure.

The mindset of “I have been badly treated/maligned by/offended by insert group here (try on Christians/Rose fans/Russians, as potential examples) and therefore I am going to have a knee-jerk reaction against them that is out of proportion and I would be extremely offended by if someone else was doing it to a group I am part of” is not just a TV show, however. It is a repeated pattern, though, and I’m going to call it out where I see it.

283 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 11:21:17pm

Dude. Religion is funny sometimes.

284 freetoken  May 27, 2015 11:28:45pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

You know all those little Asherah idols that are dug up all the time…

285 freetoken  May 27, 2015 11:32:35pm

MP3 Audio

286 Nyet  May 27, 2015 11:33:49pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

Joy Lite - Style Vibe Moskvo

287 LastYearsMan  May 27, 2015 11:35:35pm

Dr. Who companions for me meant Jo Grant, first and foremost. My first TV love? Leela and Sarah Jane were acceptable, too. But thumbs down to all who have come since then (although Billie Piper is a fetching actress).

288 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 11:35:55pm
289 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 11:36:40pm

So I have to say, poking through my e-mail accounts and cleaning things up for the first time in let’s-not-talk-about-how-long, wow, I get a lot of stupid marketing communications.

Also this is going to take a while.

290 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 11:38:38pm

re: #289 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also this is going to take a while.

You’re not yet 30. There’s time!

It is nice when things are done. But there’s always things to do.

291 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 11:40:23pm

re: #290 teleskiguy

You’re not yet 30. There’s time!

It is nice when things are done. But there’s always things to do.

This inbox has, currently, 2934 unread messages.

Most of which are probably crap and will be deleted, but due diligence and all that.

292 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 11:40:50pm

re: #289 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So I have to say, poking through my e-mail accounts and cleaning things up for the first time in let’s-not-talk-about-how-long, wow, I get a lot of stupid marketing communications.

Also this is going to take a while.

We’ll not discuss my Gmail account, which since China blocked Google services, has accumulated all kinds of garbage because it’s not so convenient for me to maintain it now.

Yet my family continues to send messages to my Gmail addy. I see them maybe 2-3 days later, when I get around to firing up the VPN to log in to Gmail.

293 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2015 11:41:28pm

OK, time to teach stuff. bbl

294 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 27, 2015 11:42:50pm

re: #292 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We’ll not discuss my Gmail account, which since China blocked Google services, has accumulated all kinds of garbage because it’s not so convenient for me to maintain it now.

Yet my family continues to send messages to my Gmail addy. I see them maybe 2-3 days later, when I get around to firing up the VPN to log in to Gmail.

I am determined to make things more useful, so setting up better filters and unsubscribing from crap, and I have found an e-mail client I am currently very pleased with. But oh man, this is going to be a project.

I should also make sure I have archives of my grad school e-mail tucked away somewhere. And undergrad, if I am being thorough.

295 teleskiguy  May 27, 2015 11:44:30pm
296 Varek Raith  May 28, 2015 12:27:28am

re: #278 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And while you’re at it, you end up being exactly the sort of fan that you disparage others for being. It’s a pattern I see in other places too and something I would recommend reflecting on.

Seriously, I don’t care that much one way or another but the constant “Clara is best” makes me come close to despising her and I’ve seen exactly one episode that might include her. (I’m not exactly a big Dr. Who fan.)

I hear ya.
I get that silliness in games;

IF YOU DON’T USE THIS COOKIE-CUTTER BUILD EVERYONE ELSE IS USING UR A NOOB!!1!11ty. U SUXXORS!

Wheee!

297 Nyet  May 28, 2015 12:32:54am

Sorry, this is the only Dr. Who I like.

…

298 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 28, 2015 12:48:44am

Oh look. A request to review a paper.

Back in March.

Oops.

299 Nyet  May 28, 2015 12:49:54am

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s never late … is it?

300 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 28, 2015 12:50:47am

re: #299 Nyet

It’s never late … is it?

After two weeks with no reply, they moved on to another reviewer in order to get a response back to the authors in a reasonable time.

To be fair, I would have declined, since I have not been keeping current with the field anyway.

301 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 12:51:29am

One thing I hate about Amazon preorders: You don’t know what day they’re actually going to ship it and when it will bill to your credit card (or debit card in my case).

302 Nyet  May 28, 2015 12:52:14am

Jonathan Pryce looks like Pope Francis.

303 JamesWI  May 28, 2015 1:01:25am

Huh, Dark Falcon didn’t show up in this thread to talk about how awesome Scott Walker is, and what a great job he’s doing in Wisconsin?

Weird…..it’s not like he has a habit of disappearing when things get difficult….

/BBL

304 Kragar  May 28, 2015 1:13:10am

re: #297 Nyet

…

305 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 2:28:50am

Looking forward to seeing this doc, “Hot Girls Wanted”, on Netflix tomorrow. It sounds like a pretty good examination of the difference between women’s natural sexuality and the exploitation of our sexuality by looking at these barely legal young women in a very personal way and what drives them to pursue this kind of sex work.

hollywoodreporter.com

In an odd, twisted way, the increasing availability of porn has always struck me as a corollary to the “Stepford Wife”, except that this particular role requires the participating woman to be available to many men, from performance to viewing, as a one dimensional character. What it does to still-forming minds such as these young women, and any others who see sex as “no big deal” regardless of consequences, remains to be seen, not to mention boys who grow up with the idea of female sexuality being yet another consumable they can buy at will.

306 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 2:45:29am

And the heat goes on, along with the deaths, in India.

More than 1,400 people have died in heat wave in India

cnn.com

307 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 2:57:18am

Of course, this is all Hillary’s fault.

Libyan air force strikes Islamic State-held areas in Benghazi, sources say - @AlArabiya_Eng
end of alert

308 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 3:06:52am

But then, they go on to blame it all on Obama. What is this editorial, comic relief?

Rand Paul Created ISIS

The GOP contender rewrites the history of Islamic State.

wsj.com

With a bit of misogyny thrown in as well when they call Rand fans “Paulines”.

309 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 4:00:18am

re: #302 Nyet

Jonathan Pryce looks like Pope Francis.

Now that you mention it …

310 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 4:01:59am

re: #308 Justanotherhuman

But then, they go on to blame it all on Obama. What is this editorial, comic relief?

Rand Paul Created ISIS

The GOP contender rewrites the history of Islamic State.

wsj.com

With a bit of misogyny thrown in as well when they call Rand fans “Paulines”.

I think you can use that term as an adjective for St. Paul, as well.

311 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 28, 2015 4:09:48am

re: #303 JamesWI

Huh, Dark Falcon didn’t show up in this thread to talk about how awesome Scott Walker is, and what a great job he’s doing in Wisconsin?

Weird…..it’s not like he has a habit of disappearing when things get difficult….

/BBL

I don’t live in Wisconsin and cannot say what kind of job he is doing there. He has won two elections and survived a recall. But I would not want him as President.

312 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 28, 2015 4:10:06am

re: #305 Justanotherhuman

Looking forward to seeing this doc, “Hot Girls Wanted”, on Netflix tomorrow. It sounds like a pretty good examination of the difference between women’s natural sexuality and the exploitation of our sexuality by looking at these barely legal young women in a very personal way and what drives them to pursue this kind of sex work.

hollywoodreporter.com

In an odd, twisted way, the increasing availability of porn has always struck me as a corollary to the “Stepford Wife”, except that this particular role requires the participating woman to be available to many men, from performance to viewing, as a one dimensional character. What it does to still-forming minds such as these young women, and any others who see sex as “no big deal” regardless of consequences, remains to be seen, not to mention boys who grow up with the idea of female sexuality being yet another consumable they can buy at will.

Not to be offensive, but porn has been available for many years. Is it easier to get? Yes. But let’s not pretend that it hasn’t been around until the Internet. There was an interesting documentary about Betty Page after she died, the documentary filmmaker did an extensive interview with her. I admired her gumption.

(the guy whose first exposure to pr0n was a bunch of magazines dumped in the forest behind his house).

313 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 28, 2015 4:12:27am

On the good news front, I got my rear brakes fixed on my car yesterday. The car sounds totally different without the metal-on-metal sound of brakes going bad. Yay me!

And good morning, Lizard Nation!

314 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 4:15:24am

re: #312 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Porn may have been available for many years, but we’re talking a different dynamic here. These young women are treated like cattle in an “industry” that acts more like a meat grinder, demanding “new” constantly.

315 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 4:46:54am

re: #174 makeitstop

And she’ll answer every. single. tweet.

Doesn’t she have something better to do than yell at people on the internet?

Yelling at people on the Internet is a whole lot better than shooting people in real life.

316 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 4:53:31am

I was born in 1987 and I get annoyed when a classic rock station plays stuff from 1994 (Stone Temple Pilots’ “Big Empty”). Makes me feel…old.

317 Dr. Matt  May 28, 2015 4:54:58am
318 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 4:56:07am

re: #314 Justanotherhuman

Porn may have been available for many years, but we’re talking a different dynamic here. These young women are treated like cattle in an “industry” that acts more like a meat grinder, demanding “new” constantly.

The “expiry date” of a porn actress is roughly mid-30s, or younger, though some persist in the business long after by becoming producers, etc. It’s an exaggerated version of Hollywood in general, which favors youthful looking actresses whose “shelf life” wanes in the late 30s, (see which screenrant.com) while older actors can get decent parts well into their 60s and 70s.

For those young women who get out of the industry and into regular jobs, there’s a different problem. If they’re outed as a former porn actress, they often lose their jobs. This has happened several times among female teachers, who may have done one or two pron gigs as a way to make money in college, but not afterward. It’s their students who often find out their past occupation, interestingly enough.

319 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 4:57:06am

Haven’t been watching Game of Thrones much this season (only the first two episodes) but it looks like they pissed a lot of people off and lost 840,000 viewers for it.
en.wikipedia.org

320 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 4:59:18am

re: #319 Timothy Watson

Haven’t been watching Game of Thrones much this season (only the first two episodes) but it looks like they pissed a lot of people off and lost 840,000 viewers for it.
en.wikipedia.org

Of course, bias aside, some of those might be because of the Memorial Day holiday.

322 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 5:02:23am

heh.

323 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:04:29am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

I’ve been plowing through the interview, transcribing as I go for later snarking, and I’m surprised at how inept these millennials are in getting their video podcasts up and running. I’ve also been amused at the facial expressions Milo has when the camera cuts to him while CCJ is rambling on about shit that’s only marginally on topic. CCJ has referred to Andrew Breitbart several times in the first 30 minutes, mentioned his “critically acclaimed” Coolidge book, the many stories he has broken before anyone else, his journalism awards, his grades in school, his superior pattern-matching abilities, his wife’s ethnicity … I’m halfway through and they’ve barely even touched on the main topic — CCJ’s banishment from Twitter.

I have to take breaks away from this project, or I will lose my mind.

324 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 5:05:31am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have to take breaks away from this project, or I will lose my mind.

Copious amounts of alcohol will also help.

325 Archangelus  May 28, 2015 5:08:46am

Just in on the Wall Street Journal:

BREAKING NEWS
Former New York governor George Pataki formally launches presidential campaign

326 Dr. Matt  May 28, 2015 5:09:09am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If you can manage to transcribe that entire shitshow and believe in Heaven, you’ll be getting first class accommodations there. Best of luck. Take lots of break. I listened live for about 10 minutes and wanted to pull my hair out. CCJ is a very weird little person.

327 Dr. Matt  May 28, 2015 5:11:21am

re: #325 Archangelus

Just in on the Wall Street Journal:

Pataki is just throwing money away. He’ll never make it through the primary. He’s not a flame-throwing wingnut. The GOP are not going to nominate another “moderate”.

328 b.d.  May 28, 2015 5:11:30am

Drudge Headline:

PAULA JONES WARNS: DON’T LET HIM BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE

Kill me now, those horses have been dead for 20 years and we have to drag their corpses out to beat them again?

329 b.d.  May 28, 2015 5:12:34am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

Pataki is just throwing money away. He’ll never make it through the primary. He’s not a flame-throwing wingnut. The GOP are not going to nominate another “moderate”.

Pataki won’t even make it into the GOP debates let alone the win the nomination.

330 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 5:14:56am

re: #316 Timothy Watson

Some rock has passed the 50 yr mark and can be considered “antique” now, though.

331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:15:19am

re: #319 Timothy Watson

Haven’t been watching Game of Thrones much this season (only the first two episodes) but it looks like they pissed a lot of people off and lost 840,000 viewers for it.
en.wikipedia.org

Click to Reveal

There was a lot of pushback about the rape scene with Sansa on her wedding night. Personally, I found it disturbing, but quite in keeping with the Boltons’ total inhumanity toward their subjects. One female critic — I need to find the link — said she felt Sansa’s situation was understandable and unavoidable, given the setting and premise of the book and show, and that Sansa’s long range plan was to recover her family’s birthright by any means possible.

I decided to hide the previous paragraph, because the scene I mention happens after episode 2.

I think some people might be growing weary of GOT because of its glacial pace. When is Danaerys going to Westeros? What about those dragons? Will winter ever fucking come? And so on. There are all these subplots and story threads to follow, and with such a long lag time between seasons, it may be hard for casual viewers to maintain their interest.

332 CleverToad  May 28, 2015 5:22:36am

Drive-by on my way to work. Old (OLD) Who Fan here, voting for Sarah Jane as the companion with the most enduring influence, partly because the character herself was fun and largely because of Lis Sladen. Jo Grant also dear to me. But I have liked ALL of the companions for various reasons, some more than others.

The worst part of fandom is when the fen of a particular genre get into splinter mode, breaking into religious sects and factions and sniping across barbed wire, clutching their canons like holy books and yelling ‘Die heretic!” as they push each other off the bridge.

The best part is the general tolerance of the fan community as a whole, bound together in recognition that if we weren’t all crazy, we would go insane. We’re all bozos on this bus. So relax and enjoy your fandoms and your particular companions, and never mind about the guy squawking in the next foxhole. There’s room enough for all of us here.

333 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 5:22:49am

Turning 50 in June; released in in 1965.

…

334 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 5:28:04am

re: #331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

[Embedded content]

I decided to hide the previous paragraph, because the scene I mention happens after episode 2.

I think some people might be growing weary of GOT because of its glacial pace. When is Danaerys going to Westeros? What about those dragons? Will winter ever fucking come? And so on. There are all these subplots and story threads to follow, and with such a long lag time between seasons, it may be hard for casual viewers to maintain their interest.

Yeah, I’ve been keeping with the plot synopses on Wikipedia.

Click to Reveal

I was a couple episodes behind and got annoyed when I saw that Barristan Selmy was killed off and I jumped ship at that point.,

335 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:28:47am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

If you can manage to transcribe that entire shitshow and believe in Heaven, you’ll be getting first class accommodations there. Best of luck. Take lots of break. I listened live for about 10 minutes and wanted to pull my hair out. CCJ is a very weird little person.

Very self-absorbed. Overly proud of his limited achievements. Ever question leads to some lengthy discussion of CCJ by CCJ. That’s why it’s boring, and even Milo’s having trouble keeping up.

A sample.

Oh, yes, the Coolidge book. Do tell.
336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:33:06am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Today, during a class break, one of my students was playing a tune on her cell phone, obviously enjoying it. This one:
…

The class was stunned when I said that song is nearly 50 years old, and was a big hit when I was in the 5th grade.

337 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 5:33:09am

Former New York Gov. George Pataki confirms he will enter Republican presidential field with campaign video

georgepataki.com

“People Over Politics”. Really, George?

338 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 5:36:23am
A woman discharged from the Marine Corps for violating multiple direct orders is fighting to the highest military court.

Military Times (“Bible verse sends former Marine back to court”):

The case involves former Lance Cpl. Monifa Sterling, who in May 2013 was assigned at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, to a desk job handling complaints from other Marines experiencing issues with their Common Access Cards.

Sterling taped three paper copies of the same quote — “No weapon formed against me shall prosper” — in 28-point type on her computer’s tower, her monitor and her desk. The line is a variant of a passage from Isaiah 57:14; Sterling said the three copies reflected the Trinity.

A native New Yorker and Christian who does not affiliate with a particular denomination, Sterling told military officials that the posted passage helped her summon patience when dealing with short-tempered Marines who were frustrated with their CAC problems.

[…]

I don’t see how Hobby Lobby applies here. Sterling was not only a government employee, rather than the private citizen running a public accommodation, but a uniformed member of the armed forces. Government employees have substantially less expressive right in the workplace than is typical in the private sector, simply because our expression might be construed as government policy. Military personnel have more restrictions still because of the need for “good order and discipline.” There’s a long history of case law in support of these principles.

Sterling’s case gets even less complicated given that she was repeatedly ordered by her superiors to take down the verses. If she believed her staff sergeant’s order was illegal, she had every right to appeal it up the chain of command or even write her Congressman. She had no right at all to ignore it, let alone defy it repeatedly and brazenly.

This is sufficiently clear cut that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if court decided not to take the appeal at all.

outsidethebeltway.com

339 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 5:43:28am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

I don’t see how Hobby Lobby applies here. Sterling was not only a government employee, rather than the private citizen running a public accommodation, but a uniformed member of the armed forces. Government employees have substantially less expressive right in the workplace than is typical in the private sector, simply because our expression might be construed as government policy. Military personnel have more restrictions still because of the need for “good order and discipline.” There’s a long history of case law in support of these principles.

Sterling’s case gets even less complicated given that she was repeatedly ordered by her superiors to take down the verses. If she believed her staff sergeant’s order was illegal, she had every right to appeal it up the chain of command or even write her Congressman. She had no right at all to ignore it, let alone defy it repeatedly and brazenly.

This is sufficiently clear cut that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if court decided not to take the appeal at all.

outsidethebeltway.com

Now, if the military would do something about some of the pervasive religiosity from the brass. This woman was just low hanging fruit, an enlisted corporal, subject to the whim of that brass and easy pickings for them.

340 Archangelus  May 28, 2015 5:46:22am

re: #331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

At this point, the show has drastically deviated from the books, especially with regards to Sansa’s storyline - Show-Sansa is basically going through the plot of another character, while Book-Sansa remains in the Eyrie and is gradually playing the Game there without ever coming close to encountering the Boltons.
With regards to the switched Sansa storyline (Boltons organizing a fake marriage to a “Stark girl” in the books replaced with an actual marriage to a Stark girl), the rape scene and follow-up scenes, horrible as they are, are both keeping in line with that storyline in the books while also totally cementing Ramsay as a monster (and yes, i know, that’s already been established by some of his actions, but compared to the Book version of the character - a cold, emotionless psycho who’s actually much, much worse - Show-Ramsey comes off nice and sane).
My pet theory is that Show-Sansa is being gradually “groomed” as the replacement of a certain vengeful book character the show has thus far cut out - mind you, I’ll be glad to be wrong if the show ends up introducing said character by the end of the season, though it’s not likely at this point. The events at the Wall are also different, yet nonetheless seem to be building up towards the events of Jon’s storyline at the end of book 5.

With regards to the pacing, it seems to me that folks are forgetting just how utterly slow paced most of the first season was. In the past two episodes, they’ve burned through events that unfolded over the course of more than half a book, and have even surpassed the books with some plot-lines (Tyrion has yet to meet Danny by the end of Book 5, making this uncharted territory for book readers). Danny ain’t heading to Westeros in the books yet either - intent on learning how to rule before heading off to conquer the Seven Kingdoms - though we should be getting more dragony goodness before the end of the season.

341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:49:20am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

It’s similar in many ways to the John Freshwater case in Ohio. He was a middle school science teacher who had a Bible on his desk and several Christian-oriented posters and books in his classroom. Plus, he was teaching YEC. His superiors told him to put the Bible away and ditch the posters, etc. He refused. He claimed his First Amendment rights were being trampled, etc., etc., and every decision up to and including the Ohio supreme court ruled that the school district was justified in firing him, because of insubordination.

Freshwater, however, was pretty aggressive in his proselytizing. If Sterling was merely displaying Bible verses and not getting in people’s faces about her religion, I’d say her superiors were being out of line in telling her to take them down. But, her refusal to obey a direct order is also a big problem, being the USMC and all. The court may rule against her just for that reason, regardless of the freedom of expression rights a civilian might enjoy.

By the way, since we’re talking about the Marines, my grand-niece leaves for boot camp in a couple of months. She was in Marines JROTC in high school. I have some misgivings about her joining the military, but at the same time I’m really proud of her. She’s a great kid and probably will be a fine Marine.

She shoots good, too.

342 Decatur Deb  May 28, 2015 5:49:24am

re: #154 freetoken

Fortunately for our society, most anyone who watches Faux is already old enough to not be able to really do much.

But vote.

…snip.

AAAKK.

The Fox News generation is the FDR/Truman/JFK/McGovern generation. We have the time, motivation and money to do a bit more than vote. And when we go to canvass Florida Foxwatchers, our age gives us a distinct advantage. Look at the stats—young, fresh faces are wonderful, but the Social Security set turns out.

The first rule of field primatology: “Don’t fuck with the silverbacks.”

343 Iwouldprefernotto  May 28, 2015 5:50:43am

re: #328 b.d.

Drudge Headline:

Kill me now, those horses have been dead for 20 years and we have to drag their corpses bones out to beat them again?

Fixed

344 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 5:53:10am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Turning 50 in June; released in in 1965.

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Heard in a grocery store in 1985. That’s when I felt old the first time.

345 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:53:14am

re: #343 Iwouldprefernotto

Kill me now, those horses have been dead for 20 years and we have to drag their corpses bones out to beat them again?

Fixed

Are they afraid Bill’s going to chase after the interns again?

346 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 5:53:26am

re: #343 Iwouldprefernotto

Kill me now, those horses have been dead for 20 years and we have to drag their corpses bones out to beat them again?

Fixed

About the “Tribes” videogame series but it works:

Penny Arcade - “The (Product) Cycle”

Original link: penny-arcade.com

347 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 5:54:29am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This whole Monifa Sterling deal is a Todd Starnes special. I read the court transcript. Sterling was having problems already, the Jesus-y stuff was the last bit before it ended up in tribunal.

Starnes forgot to mention that. This is not a Christian oppression story in the least, she was having problems.

The story is how Sterling is making it a Christian oppression story with the help of the right wing hack Starnes. That’s the real story.

348 Decatur Deb  May 28, 2015 5:57:24am

re: #345 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Are they afraid Bill’s going to chase after the interns again?

Time to re-animate Ken Starr as the Senior Semen Editor on Fox.

349 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 5:58:34am

re: #347 BigPapa

This whole Monifa Sterling deal is a Todd Starnes special. I read the court transcript. Sterling was having problems already, the Jesus-y stuff was the last bit before it ended up in tribunal.

Starnes forgot to mention that. This is not a Christian oppression story in the least, she was having problems.

The story is how Sterling is making it a Christian oppression story with the help of the right wing hack Starnes. That’s the real story.

As soon as I saw Starnes’ name, I knew the situation. ‘Nuff said.

The RR seize on every possible example of “persecution,” no matter how slight or non-existent, to push their narrative that Christians Are Being Oppressed™. They did the same thing with Freshwater — I got his name wrong above — and with Rifqa Bary, another Ohio sensation. She was the Muslim girl who ran away from home because she was convinced her father was going to honor kill her for being Christian. The Xianists helped her “escape.”

350 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 6:00:44am

re: #349 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As soon as I saw Starnes’ name, I knew the situation. ‘Nuff said.

ISIS - If Stupid, Its Starnes

351 Timothy Watson  May 28, 2015 6:02:14am

re: #347 BigPapa

This whole Monifa Sterling deal is a Todd Starnes special. I read the court transcript. Sterling was having problems already, the Jesus-y stuff was the last bit before it ended up in tribunal.

Starnes forgot to mention that. This is not a Christian oppression story in the least, she was having problems.

The story is how Sterling is making it a Christian oppression story with the help of the right wing hack Starnes. That’s the real story.

Yeah, remember a couple years ago the RWNJ said THE MILITARY IS DESTROYING SOLDIERS’ BIBLES!!1!

Turns out, a single soldier had a couple hundred Bibles in Pashto which he was using to try to convert Afghans. Yeah, that won’t cause any problems.

/

352 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 6:02:25am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

Pataki is just throwing money away. He’ll never make it through the primary. He’s not a flame-throwing wingnut. The GOP are not going to nominate another “moderate”.

Wow! The Daily Fail’s Paula Jones article is huge. Obviously they are pulling out all the stops to make sure Hilary loses the British redneck vote.

353 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 6:03:57am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

re: #335 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Very self-absorbed. Overly proud of his limited achievements. Ever question leads to some lengthy discussion of CCJ by CCJ. That’s why it’s boring, and even Milo’s having trouble keeping up.

A sample.

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Incredibly self-absorbed, to the exclusion of all else. Like Dr. Matt, I was only able to tolerate the interview for about 10 minutes. Having been married to a malignant narcissist for a couple of years, I’ve had more than my fill of it. People and events are only of importance in their relationship to the narcissist—if they have no bearing on his image/ego, then they are less than irrelevant and he won’t even pretend to have empathy for them.

The world of the narcissist is like a box with a stage inside, and he is the star. Bit players may intrude from time to time (hence the refernce to the “lesser” Charles Johnson when mentioning our Charles), but they’re merely annoying hands reaching inside the box. They always end up being dismissed, as does any person who fails to be 150% supportive and constantly stroke his ego. Criticism, even of the mildest & most constructive sort, is seen as a deadly betrayal. If his wife hasn’t already learned that, she will soon enough. I feel for her.

Definitely take lots of breaks. Getting up close & personal with that kind of pathology for any length of time isn’t healthy.

354 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 6:08:00am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

Yeah, remember a couple years ago the RWNJ said THE MILITARY IS DESTROYING SOLDIERS’ BIBLES!!1!

Turns out, a single soldier had a couple hundred Bibles in Pashto which he was using to try to convert Afghans. Yeah, that won’t cause any problems.

/

Ya gotta be shittin me.

(looks around to see if Chuck C Johnson is here)

355 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:09:27am

re: #353 CuriousLurker

Oh I am taking breaks. Transcription is already pretty exhausting work. I feel it necessary to be absolutely sure I get his wording correct, too, given his thin skin.

Milo is too soft on Chuck, though. He asks decent questions, but lets Chuck ramble off course too much.

356 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:14:42am

re: #353 CuriousLurker

I will say, though, that some remarks by Chuck give insight into his psyche — his mother’s brush with cancer when he was 8, for example. He said he was convinced then that it would be fatal. It wasn’t, but it probably shaped his personality and relationship with the world. I’m not buying his contention that he’s autistic or on the autism scale, however. Asberger’s may be a legitimate diagnosis, I think.

357 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 6:16:05am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Saw The Who the other day. 50th anniversary tour. Glad I saw them, but yeah, they’re old.

Roger’s voice is shot, but the music itself was as good as ever. He can perform, but can’t sing, if you know what I mean. Pete can still rock a mean guitar. They had Zak Starkey on drums, who learned how to play drums from Keith (and also happens to be Ringo Starr’s son). Pete’s brother Simon was also playing with them, so it was a family affair.

They also told a bunch of anecdotes about touring, life, etc., and Pete joked that most everyone in the audience wasn’t even alive when the band started touring (myself included), and the few folks who were old enough to remember got the reminder that EMTs are standing by; oxygen is available, and that includes for the band.

358 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 6:18:25am

re: #355 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thin skin? Even so much as disagreeing with my ex on something as simple and totally subjective as my preferred type of shoe or favorite color could result in thunderous accusations of lack of respect/love.

It’s a bizarre and threatening world the narcissist lives in. They’re always on the defensive, which is typically expressed in an offensive way (e.g. by attacking the intentions, character, and or intelligence of the critic). Lots of paranoia.

359 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:18:49am

re: #357 lawhawk

Saw The Who the other day. 50th anniversary tour. Glad I saw them, but yeah, they’re old.

Roger’s voice is shot, but the music itself was as good as ever. He can perform, but can’t sing, if you know what I mean. Pete can stick rock a mean guitar. They had Zak Starkey on drums, who learned how to play drums from Keith (and also happens to be Ringo Starr’s son). Pete’s brother Simon was also playing with them, so it was a family affair.

They also told a bunch of anecdotes about touring, life, etc., and Pete joked that most everyone in the audience wasn’t even alive when the band started touring (myself included), and the few folks who were old enough to remember got the reminder that EMTs are standing by; oxygen is available, and that includes for the band.

Doesn’t Daltry insist that there be no smoking of anything during the concert? Someone mentioned that yesterday, I think

360 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 6:20:27am

re: #358 CuriousLurker

Thin skin? Even so much as disagreeing with my ex on something as simple and totally subjective as my preferred type of shoe or favorite color could result in thunderous accusations of lack of respect/love.

It’s a bizarre and threatening world the narcissist lives in. They’re always on the defensive, which is typically expressed in an offensive way (e.g. by attacking the intentions, character, and or intelligence of the critic). Lots of paranoia.

I’m glad you got out of there. So nice to have you out here amongst the sane.

361 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 6:20:33am

A message from my hidden self:

We must defeat the theocrats and keep them out of power at any cost. Those of you who do not personally associate with these people, or live in an area where they have power, probably do not realize how evil and nefarious they really are. Your worst suspicions are probably not as bad as the truth.

This is true at a private level as well. Some of the most rapacious grifters, the most abusive employers, the most bare-faced liars, the most hypocritical and dysfunctional families, are the ones who make a show of their piety and righteousness. It is not just weakness or the law of averages that makes so many fundy theocrats pedophiles, adulterers, criminals and crazed abusers. They love to inflict pain, and doing so with a veneer of righteousness only magnifies the sick joy they feel from it. Their hypocrisy is not a failure to them, it is a calculated behavior that they find deeply gratifying.

I know these people, I have dealt with them all my life. They are the true agents of Satan in the modern world.

362 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:20:41am

re: #358 CuriousLurker

Thin skin? Even so much as disagreeing with my ex on something as simple and totally subjective as my preferred type of shoe or favorite color could result in thunderous accusations of lack of respect/love.

It’s a bizarre and threatening world the narcissist lives in. They’re always on the defensive, which is typically expressed in an offensive way (e.g. by attacking the intentions, character, and or intelligence of the critic). Lots of paranoia.

Ah, yeah. My ex was paranoid delusional. I know of what you speak.

363 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 6:22:31am

re: #359 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s right. He’s had to cancel shows because of voice issues; he’s real sensitive to smoke and there were warnings before the show started not to smoke (though a few people in our section appeared to have vaped pot).

He also thanked the crowd after the show for not smoking b/c it meant he could complete the show - which is why everyone came in the first place.

It also explains why the show doesn’t have any explosions/smoke effects - that could irritate his throat more.

364 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 6:23:29am

re: #361 Shiplord Kirel

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

#360 goes for you two as well.

365 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 6:25:07am

re: #356 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I will say, though, that some remarks by Chuck give insight into his psyche — his mother’s brush with cancer when he was 8, for example. He said he was convinced then that it would be fatal. It wasn’t, but it probably shaped his personality and relationship with the world. […]

Could be—my ex’s mom died when he was a teen (also from cancer) and he never got over it. He idolized her (and she him, apparently) and he felt that he was cheated, robbed of her love, at too early an age. Again though, her death was all about how it affected him, never about her (or his father & siblings).

366 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 6:25:51am

re: #360 wrenchwench

I’m glad you got out of there. So nice to have you out here amongst the sane.

Thanks, me too. It’s much more pleasant here. ;-)

367 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 6:27:27am

Sheesh knew Walker was an asshole but this takes the prize.

368 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 6:28:52am

re: #359 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Doesn’t Daltry insist that there be no smoking of anything during the concert? Someone mentioned that yesterday, I think

He actually stopped the show here on Long Island last week to insist that a front row weed-smoker put out the joint - and the smoker got a novel suggestion from Pete as to where he could put said joint.

There’s a Youtube video of it out there somewhere.

369 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 6:29:43am

re: #368 makeitstop

He actually stopped the show last week to insist that a front row weed-smoker put out the joint - and the smoker got a novel suggestion from Pete as to where he could put said joint.

There’s a Youtube video of it out there somewhere.

Don’t these venues prohibit smoking of any kind?

370 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 6:31:53am

re: #369 Lord Of The Pies

Don’t these venues prohibit smoking of any kind?

Ostensibly. But enforcement of weed smoking is lax, because methods of doing so are easier to conceal now (one-hitters, vaporizers, etc.) and also because hey, it’s a rock show.

371 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 6:33:48am
372 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 6:42:16am

This abortion stuff is just smoke and mirrors for the cretinous Republican base. Like many fundy-inspired demands, this one has an element of pain and humiliation connected with it. That is why it resonates with the base.

It is Walker’s union-busting that excites the GOP’s real players and gives him a chance. Fifty years of anti-union agitation has made this the least unionized country in the developed world, and by a huge margin. The relentless GOP/corporate campaign against organized labor has turned us back to the Gilded Age, even as heavily unionized economies like France, Finland, and the UK leave us in the dust. With Walker they are going for the kill, the final push that will take us all the way back to feudalism.

Another example: The first time I went to Brazil, in 1978, per capita income there was 1/50 what it was in the US. Organized labor was held in check by military rule. Today, organized labor is the single most important factor in Brazilian democracy. Per capita income is close to half that of the US now, and they are catching up fast.

373 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 6:43:28am

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, neurosurgeon Ben Carson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker each take 10 percent support among Republicans in the poll.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul follows with 7 percent support while Texas Sen. Ted Cruz takes 6 percent and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina has 2 percent.

No GOP hopeful in the poll captures more than 10 percent of the vote. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Penn.), who announced his White House bid on Wednesday, did not register among overall voters.

374 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 6:44:48am

Good morning Lizards. Hazy and warm in Philly today - thunderstorms arriving in the afternoon. Which might keep the temp in check in exchange for very high humidity.

Courtesy of my brother, who is currently traveling:

Monastery Cat (Crete) - Feline Overlording on the sly
375 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 6:45:14am

re: #368 makeitstop

He actually stopped the show here on Long Island last week to insist that a front row weed-smoker put out the joint - and the smoker got a novel suggestion from Pete as to where he could put said joint.

There’s a Youtube video of it out there somewhere.

Sounds like it’s past time for the band to hang it up. The Who were an okay band when I saw them at Monterey, but it’s nearly fifty years on. I’d rather be able to remember one of us as we were.

376 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 6:49:41am

re: #375 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sounds like it’s past time for the band to hang it up. The Who were an okay band when I saw them at Monterey, but it’s nearly fifty years on. I’d rather be able to remember one of us as we were.

A lot of people are saying that, that if Rog can’t or won’t tolerate smoke at their shows, he should just call it a day.

I have a couple of friends who are close to the band, and they say that the allergy is real.

I have no feelings on whether they should quit or not, honestly. I don’t intend to go and see them, and I’ve got all those wonderful Who albums to listen to if I need a fix.

And having been in bands all my life, I’ve learned that lead singers will complain about anything. ;)

377 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 6:49:48am

re: #371 Lord Of The Pies

FWIW, that photo is actually of the Rolling Thunder Memorial Day ride from the Pentagon to the Vietnam Memorial in 2012.

378 darthstar  May 28, 2015 6:50:25am

re: #373 lawhawk

So Huckabee squirts into a tie for first by defending a child molester. Didn’t see that Republican rebrand coming.

379 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 6:51:11am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

FWIW, that photo is actually of the Rolling Thunder Memorial Day ride from the Pentagon to the Vietnam Memorial in 2012.

Well it can’t be of the Arizona event since it’s scheduled for tomorrow :)

380 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 6:51:31am

A reminder for our friends in the east, now that Abbott is begging for a massive infusion of disaster relief from the crazed overlord of Jade Helm, Barack Hussein Obama himself.

381 darthstar  May 28, 2015 6:52:12am

re: #371 Lord Of The Pies

Do America’s bigots really want to bring the holy war here so we don’t have to watch it play out on TV over there?

382 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 6:52:20am

re: #379 Lord Of The Pies

Well it can’t be of the Arizona event since it’s scheduled for tomorrow :)

That photo got co-opted a lot. Mostly for the 2 million bikers vs 1 million Muslims rally that fizzled out before it ever started.

383 Lidane  May 28, 2015 6:54:13am

This is hilarious. FIVE people tied for first with only 10% each:

Good luck, GOP. You’re going to need it.

384 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 6:55:10am

Happy news for my trip tomorrow: the runway closed by a sinkhole at DFW has been reopened.

Hopefully I can just breeze through there on my way to my destination.

385 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:55:59am

re: #364 wrenchwench

Thanks.

386 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 6:58:54am

re: #381 darthstar

Do America’s bigots really want to bring the holy war here so we don’t have to watch it play out on TV over there?

Well, it would be less expensive for the military mobilization to occur within our borders, after all. Part of the budget balancing effort.
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387 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 6:59:57am

The Jade Helm conspiraloons in Texas can ask Putin for help. They treat his propaganda/conspiracy rag rt.com as revealed truth. The least he could do is take care of his own.

388 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2015 7:01:58am

Question for the GOP debates: How old is the Earth?

389 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 7:01:59am

re: #380 Shiplord Kirel

A reminder for our friends in the east, now that Abbott is begging for a massive infusion of disaster relief from the crazed overlord of Jade Helm, Barack Hussein Obama himself.

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Guess their bootstraps got washed away.

390 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 7:02:53am

re: #388 GlutenFreeJesus

Question for the GOP debates: How old is the Earth?

How babby is formed?

391 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 7:03:00am

Dana, still butthurt that she can’t control the conversation==>

392 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2015 7:03:03am

It was not always so. Many lizards remember Ann Richards. A few old timers can probably remember my great uncle Sam Rayburn, Mr. Democrat himself and a true son of Texas all his life.

393 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 7:05:26am

re: #387 Shiplord Kirel

394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 7:05:47am

re: #391 Lord Of The Pies

Dana, still butthurt that she can’t control the conversation==>

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Well, it’s not like the RW ever promotes and re-tweets fake quotes. At least we know Walker actually said those words. It’s just really too bad that he made himself a complete ass in doing so.

395 darthstar  May 28, 2015 7:06:53am
396 darthstar  May 28, 2015 7:07:36am

re: #383 Lidane

This is hilarious. FIVE people tied for first with only 10% each:

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Good luck, GOP. You’re going to need it.

That’s 50%! Let’s see someone else do that.

397 Lidane  May 28, 2015 7:07:49am

re: #387 Shiplord Kirel

The Jade Helm conspiraloons in Texas can ask Putin for help. They treat his propaganda/conspiracy rag rt.com as revealed truth. The least he could do is take care of his own.

Related:

Abbott, curiously enough, has not yet issued orders for the Texas Guard to monitor federal aid workers for possible signs that they might impose martial law on the state, even though it is well known that FEMA exists largely for the purpose of taking away patriots’ guns and herding conservatives into railroad cars to take them to detention camps in closed-down Walmarts.

398 Lidane  May 28, 2015 7:08:35am

re: #388 GlutenFreeJesus

Question for the GOP debates: How old is the Earth?

Why did God choose you over all of these other liberal heathens to be His candidate for POTUS?

399 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2015 7:11:26am

re: #398 Lidane

He called tails. I’m tails. :)

400 William Lewis  May 28, 2015 7:13:42am

re: #357 lawhawk

Saw The Who the other day. 50th anniversary tour. Glad I saw them, but yeah, they’re old.

Roger’s voice is shot, but the music itself was as good as ever. He can perform, but can’t sing, if you know what I mean. Pete can still rock a mean guitar. They had Zak Starkey on drums, who learned how to play drums from Keith (and also happens to be Ringo Starr’s son). Pete’s brother Simon was also playing with them, so it was a family affair.

They also told a bunch of anecdotes about touring, life, etc., and Pete joked that most everyone in the audience wasn’t even alive when the band started touring (myself included), and the few folks who were old enough to remember got the reminder that EMTs are standing by; oxygen is available, and that includes for the band.

A good friend of mine bought two tickets to the Who/Clash in Chicago 1982 with the intent to surprise me. I was surprised all right - the show was a week or so after I had to report to Fort Knox for Basic Training. That’s as close as I got to seeing either my two favorite bands.

401 darthstar  May 28, 2015 7:13:43am

I look at Houston right now and I can’t help but feel sorry for all those people who had to relocate there after Katrina.

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 7:17:01am
403 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 7:17:13am

re: #380 Shiplord Kirel

404 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 7:17:20am

And yet he stood by Joe Paterno and PSU, even though both conspired to cover up molestation by Jerry Sandusky.

405 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 7:18:17am

Now past the halfway point in the Milo-CCJ gabfest. CCJ slanders Shaun King at 32:30.

406 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 7:18:25am

re: #395 darthstar

407 Lidane  May 28, 2015 7:19:10am

The circular firing squad has begun:

408 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 7:20:12am

re: #388 GlutenFreeJesus

Question for the GOP debates: How old is the Earth?

You say G-d told you to run for the WH; your fellow candidates also said that they were told to run as well. Who’s right, and which G-d whispered in your ear? /

409 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 7:21:37am

Updated spreadsheet tracking who’s announced that they’re running for 2016: docs.google.com

410 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 7:24:11am
411 darthstar  May 28, 2015 7:24:34am

re: #409 CuriousLurker

Updated spreadsheet tracking who’s announced that they’re running for 2016: docs.google.com

We also need some variation on the baseball scoring sheet to track hits, errors(lots of errors), foul comments, and donors scored.

412 stpaulbear  May 28, 2015 7:29:16am

re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, it’s not like the RW ever promotes and re-tweets fake quotes. At least we know Walker actually said those words. It’s just really too bad that he made himself a complete ass in doing so.

But Walker IS a complete ass. He can’t help but say stuff that will reveal that. He’ll say lots more stuff like that reveals his inner jackass before his political career is over.

413 stpaulbear  May 28, 2015 7:32:58am

re: #383 Lidane

This is hilarious. FIVE people tied for first with only 10% each:

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Good luck, GOP. You’re going to need it.

This only shows what a stong field of candidates the GOP has. It’s impossible to chose!

You might say it’s an embarrassment of riches. (except for the ‘riches’ part).

414 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 7:40:35am

Morning LGF lizards.

I was reading through the thread and saw mentions of The Stones and The Who.

I’m not going to bang on these guys still travelling around using their original band names and playing as them.

But what I really admire about rockers getting old is the way Robert Plant has handled his career. It is my understanding that Plant refuses to do any more Led Zep tours. I can admire that. I think his thinking is similar to mine about The Who. Without Bonham, there is no Zep.

To me without Moon and Entwistle there is no Who.

So, it would be nice if Roger and Pete went on the road as a band and did a little old and a little new, but not sell yourself as The Who. Maybe go out as Roger and Pete’s My Generation Band.

I love how Plant goes about it…like this…Robert Plant’s Band of Joy.

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415 SteelPH  May 28, 2015 7:41:15am

It really shows how utterly inept the GOP is. All the candidates are pretty much interchangeable. Blank slates that will say whatever insane things they think the base wants to hear.

416 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 7:42:08am

I’m all for providing speedy aid to Texas flood victims - as long as it includes a requirement that Governor Abbott publicly states that some times federal government is the only solution.

417 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 7:42:17am

re: #412 stpaulbear

But Walker IS a complete ass. He can’t help but say stuff that will reveal that. He’ll say lots more stuff like that reveals his inner jackass before his political career is over.

First, he has to finish his scorched earth campaign against Wisconsin.

418 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 7:43:11am

re: #415 SteelPH

It really shows how utterly inept the GOP is. All the candidates are pretty much interchangeable. Blank slates that will say whatever insane things they think the base wants to hear.

The wingnuts are bragging about how their Clown Car is full of TEH DIVERSITY!!!!! but they all parrot the same lame bullshit.

419 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 7:46:33am
420 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 7:50:17am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are you fucking kidding me? #SomeBlackLivesDontMatter is really a thing? Fucking worthless pieces of shit.

421 Lidane  May 28, 2015 7:53:10am
422 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 7:53:18am

re: #420 Eventual Carrion

Are you fucking kidding me? #SomeBlackLivesDontMatter is really a thing? Fucking worthless pieces of shit.

Only in Rick Lowry’s fevered little brain.

423 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 7:53:48am

Oh Dana, shoot Ben==>

424 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 7:54:56am

re: #423 Lord Of The Pies

Oh Dana, shoot Ben==>

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We need more spoons and forks…

425 Decatur Deb  May 28, 2015 7:55:19am

re: #420 Eventual Carrion

Are you fucking kidding me? #SomeBlackLivesDontMatter is really a thing? Fucking worthless pieces of shit.

The Politico column could be read as a piece of clumsy rhetoric. On the other hand, he pretends to make his living via non-clumsy rhetoric. And he was a POS before he wrote it. So fuck him.

426 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 7:56:47am

ASSHOLE

427 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 7:57:34am

re: #391 Lord Of The Pies

Dana, still butthurt that she can’t control the conversation==>

[Dana Loesch ✔@DLoesch

See how it works? Prog blog publishes fake quote, MSNBC, Politico run with it, now parroted by Dem party acct.


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10:00 AM - 28 May 2015]

Wait. Isn’t this exactly what FOX does all the time? A line starts somewhere in GOP land, gets on FOX and everyone runs with it? Nobody has more parrots than the GOP.

And let’s not forget how Dickless Cheney used the newspapers to carry his BS on Iraq and then turned around and said the reports are factual because major papers are reporting it.

Bottom line. Shut up Dana.

428 Lidane  May 28, 2015 7:57:50am

re: #426 Lord Of The Pies

He knows there’s a difference between abdominal ultrasounds and forced transvaginal ultrasounds, right?

429 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 7:58:17am

re: #428 Lidane

He knows there’s a difference between abdominal ultrasounds and forced transvaginal ultrasounds, right?

Maybe not.

430 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 7:58:44am

re: #420 Eventual Carrion

Are you fucking kidding me? #SomeBlackLivesDontMatter is really a thing? Fucking worthless pieces of shit.

Blah blah black on black crime blah blah Sharpton blah blah.

Lowry’s an asshole, and that column has been written 50 times already - probably 10 of them by Lowry himself. More disgruntled bitching by someone who knows he’s on the wrong side of history, yet continues bitching anyway.

431 bubba zanetti  May 28, 2015 7:59:13am

Man, that quote must have really stung if they’re spinning it that hard.

432 Decatur Deb  May 28, 2015 8:01:12am

re: #428 Lidane

He knows there’s a difference between abdominal ultrasounds and forced transvaginal ultrasounds, right?

Could not start to imagine “The Things Scott Walker Doesn’t Know”.

433 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 8:01:52am

ASSHOLE==>

434 William Lewis  May 28, 2015 8:01:57am

re: #428 Lidane

He knows there’s a difference between abdominal ultrasounds and forced transvaginal ultrasounds, right?

He is stupid enough that he really might not. Never forget even Palin graduated from college and Walker couldn’t.

435 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 8:03:16am
436 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 8:14:50am

Some people are just hopeless.

437 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:17:05am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Some people are just hopeless.

You are being far too kind.

438 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 8:17:28am

re: #437 ObserverArt

You are being far too kind.

I’m nice that way.

Sometimes.

439 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 8:17:33am

The FCC wants to expand Internet subsidies for the poor

washingtonpost.com

440 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 8:17:35am
441 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:17:45am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oooh! Another Smart Person with a High IQ! 140+ All your arguments are invalid.

442 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 8:17:45am

re: #423 Lord Of The Pies

Oh Dana, shoot Ben==>

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He was agreeing with Dana.

443 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:18:32am

re: #439 Justanotherhuman

The FCC wants to expand Internet subsidies for the poor

washingtonpost.com

Obamanet!! Oppression!! Race war!!

444 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 8:19:27am

re: #433 Lord Of The Pies

ASSHOLE==>

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What a tiny brain he must have to find those two equivalent.

445 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2015 8:20:19am

re: #408 lawhawk

If there is a God, they sure have a great sense of humor sometimes.

446 Lidane  May 28, 2015 8:20:50am

Still tilting at the same old windmill:

Is it November 2016 yet?

447 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 8:21:12am
448 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 28, 2015 8:22:20am

re: #433 Lord Of The Pies

well, now that ChuckCJohnson is banned someone has to fill the void for biggest idiot on Twitter.

449 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2015 8:22:26am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

450 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 8:24:26am

Wonder if this vehicle had a govt plate on it?

‘People Had to See Something’: 1 Dead, 1 Injured in Shooting on I-295 N

nbcwashington.com

(snip)

Lanier said the incident initially appeared to stem from an apparent case of road rage, but now investigators believe the SUV was followed into the District from Virginia.

Police do not have a description of the suspect vehicle. Anyone who witnessed the shooting or may have seen the suspect vehicle is asked to call police at[no phone numbers allowed].

“This is rush hour traffic. There were a lot of cars out here,” Lanier said. “People had to see something.”

All northbound lanes of I-295 are closed between the U.S. Naval Research Lab and S. Capitol Street.

451 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2015 8:24:53am

re: #404 lawhawk

And yet he stood by Joe Paterno and PSU, even though both conspired to cover up molestation by Jerry Sandusky.

He’s sickened by the allegations, not the actual molesting.

452 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:26:48am

You know, as I listen to this interview with CCJ, I’m thinking just reporting what his actual words are may do more damage than snarking about it.

I wonder if Milo intends to follow up on the interview with a blog post. So far, he has none.

453 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 8:28:44am

Wow, another all white crowd, cont.

454 Lidane  May 28, 2015 8:29:49am
455 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 8:30:13am

re: #452 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

From reading his poems, I’d say he already feels soiled.

Or something foul.

456 Varek Raith  May 28, 2015 8:30:25am

re: #453 Justanotherhuman

Wow, another all white crowd, cont.

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Ha!
@GovernorPataki has me blocked.
XD

457 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:31:21am

re: #446 Lidane

Still tilting at the same old windmill:

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Is it November 2016 yet?

Is it just me, or is Teddy beginning to get less and less coverage? Seems like his bombastic rhetoric is just falling flat when he is just another one of the crazies running for President. Too many nuts in the jar and they all start to look and sound the same.

I guess that means he will ramp up the nuttiness to a higher level. And I would almost imagine he is paying attention to one Rand Paul and how to stand out from the maddening crowd. I look at him to soon start to attack the GOP establishment and even his own past stances.

Stand by.

458 withak  May 28, 2015 8:32:18am

I’m a bit late to the party on this one.

Has anyone yet made the point that most of the “cool” ultrasound pictures that expectant parents carry around of their ultrasounds aren’t made with quite so… invasive a device?

459 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:34:12am

re: #454 Lidane

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Jesus!!!

(He has that cap on…I wonder how long and straight his hair is to complete the image)

460 bubba zanetti  May 28, 2015 8:36:24am

re: #458 withak

Has anyone yet made the point that most of the “cool” ultrasound pictures that expectant parents carry around of their ultrasounds aren’t made with quite so… invasive a device?

LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU

461 Bubblehead II  May 28, 2015 8:37:16am

re: #446 Lidane

Still tilting at the same old windmill:

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Is it November 2016 yet?

When will he find the time?

Ted Cruz stops showing up to work as he focuses on 2016 presidential run

Of the five senators hitting the presidential trail, he has the worst voting attendance record, missing one out of four votes since the beginning of this term, and even more in recent months.

462 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 8:37:19am

re: #446 Lidane

Still tilting at the same old windmill:

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Is it November 2016 yet?

Though I know that both bias and old age are affecting me, I can’t help but think that Ted Cruz is the phoniest-looking person I’ve ever laid eyes on. He could easily be cast as a used car salesman in a Seventies sitcom.

463 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2015 8:40:31am

re: #454 Lidane

That story made me sick to my stomach.

People in the ME are fighting for their lives and he is playing a game, seems to me.

464 allegro  May 28, 2015 8:40:48am

re: #457 ObserverArt

Is it just me, or is Teddy beginning to get less and less coverage? Seems like his bombastic rhetoric is just falling flat when he is just another one of the crazies running for President. Too many nuts in the jar and they all start to look and sound the same.

I guess that means he will ramp up the nuttiness to a higher level. And I would almost imagine he is paying attention to one Rand Paul and how to stand out from the maddening crowd. I look at him to soon start to attack the GOP establishment and even his own past stances.

Stand by.

A couple of days ago Mayor Annise had a press conference about the flooding in Houston, about the current conditions, damage, resources available, where and how people could get help, etc. As always she was terrific, concise, practical and helpful. So then here comes Gov Abbott with a bunch of platitudes about how his heart goes out to all the Texans who have been hurt, blah blah. Then I see fucking Cruz standing there. Annise had to be choking back bile as she introduced him to speak. I think I listened to his whiny voice for about 15 seconds before hitting the blessed mute button. Yeah, he’s desperate to get his face anywhere in front of a camera.

465 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 8:41:11am

re: #461 Bubblehead II

When will he find the time?

Ted Cruz stops showing up to work as he focuses on 2016 presidential run

Of the five senators hitting the presidential trail, he has the worst voting attendance record, missing one out of four votes since the beginning of this term, and even more in recent months.

Not to mention missing the Atty Gen approval vote for a fundraiser. A vote he vowed to be there to vote against.

Just the man I want to be POTUS.
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466 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 28, 2015 8:41:31am

re: #462 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Though I know that both bias and old age are affecting me, I can’t help but think that Ted Cruz is the phoniest-looking person I’ve ever laid eyes on. He could easily be cast as a used car salesman in a Seventies sitcom.

He learned it all from televangelists. He is phony, everything about him is phony. But, he does do most of what he says he will in order to pander to the rubes that elected him in the first place which makes him scary. He may not really believe his own BS but he’s craven enough to act on it in order to rake in more money and get elected.

467 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 28, 2015 8:43:11am

re: #464 allegro

A couple of days ago Mayor Annise had a press conference about the flooding in Houston, about the current conditions, damage, resources available, where and how people could get help, etc. As always she was terrific, concise, practical and helpful. So then here comes Gov Abbott with a bunch of platitudes about how his heart goes out to all the Texans who have been hurt, blah blah. Then I see fucking Cruz standing there. Annise had to be choking back bile as she introduced him to speak. I think I listened to his whiny voice for about 15 seconds before hitting the blessed mute button. Yeah, he’s desperate to get his face anywhere in front of a camera.

When will Ted Cruz walk his talk and call on Texas to pick itself up by its bootstraps and not accept federal disaster relief?

468 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 8:44:42am

re: #464 allegro

What’s the over/under on how long it will take Cruz to show up in Houston wearing a tool belt?

469 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 8:45:50am

re: #468 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What’s the over/under on how long it will take Cruz to show up in Houston wearing a tool belt?

Or shouting into a bullhorn

470 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:46:03am

re: #468 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What’s the over/under on how long it will take Cruz to show up in Houston wearing a tool belt?

And some Carhartt rugged bibs!!! Oh yeah…nice and new and stiff as hell.

471 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:46:47am

re: #470 ObserverArt

And some Carhartt rugged bibs!!! Oh yeah…nice and new and stiff as hell.

And pristine, off the shelf Redwings?

472 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 8:46:50am

re: #452 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Do like they did to POTUS, count how many times he said “me”, “my”, or “I” as well as how many times he mentioned his book, IQ, hot Asian wife, etc.

473 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 8:47:13am
474 danarchy  May 28, 2015 8:47:22am

re: #453 Justanotherhuman

Wow, another all white crowd, cont.

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Well he is in New Hampshire, the state is 94.2% White. The town of Exeter is 95.5% white.

475 allegro  May 28, 2015 8:47:30am

re: #467 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

When will Ted Cruz walk his talk and call on Texas to pick itself up by its bootstraps and not accept federal disaster relief?

He and Abbott only do that for audiences not currently under water. Then they’re all about what THEY will do for us little people without mentioning that it’s the federal dollars and help they’re talking about.

476 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:47:44am

re: #471 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And pristine, off the shelf Redwings?

LGF dresses Ted for wannabee success.

477 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:48:55am

re: #472 CuriousLurker

Do like they did to POTUS, count how many times he said “me”, “my”, or “I” as well as how many times he mentioned his book, IQ, hot Asian wife, etc.

Andrew Breitbart mentions are past eight, I believe, with another 20 minutes to go. Wife is at least two.

First person references broke the counter. Have to invest in a new one.

478 Varek Raith  May 28, 2015 8:50:47am

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whut.

479 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 8:50:54am

re: #476 ObserverArt

LGF dresses Ted for wannabee success.

It would be easier to just superimpose his smarmy face onto a real construction worker’s body, with the caption, “I have no idea what I’m doing.”

480 Bubblehead II  May 28, 2015 8:51:06am

re: #465 Feline Fearless Leader

Not to mention missing the Atty Gen approval vote for a fundraiser. A vote he vowed to be there to vote against.

Just the man I want to be POTUS.
////

I look at it this way. The more time he spends on the campaign trail fund raising the less time he spends in D.C. being an obstructionist as well as introducing bat shit crazy legislation. It’s a win/win situation.

481 Lidane  May 28, 2015 8:51:23am
482 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 8:55:46am

WTFITS==>

483 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 8:56:21am

re: #479 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It would be easier to just superimpose his smarmy face onto a real construction worker’s body, with the caption, “I have no idea what I’m doing.”

I wouldn’t want to do that to a real construction worker.

Ted needs to be seen with the tags still on his new work duds so as to capture all the fakeness in all its glory. And then he needs to go over and try to pound a nail and smash his hand big time.

484 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 9:02:49am

Midnight here. See you all later.

485 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 9:17:13am
Aaron Thibeaux “T-Bone” Walker was born 105 years ago today.
486 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:17:53am

re: #458 withak

I’m a bit late to the party on this one.

Has anyone yet made the point that most of the “cool” ultrasound pictures that expectant parents carry around of their ultrasounds aren’t made with quite so… invasive a device?

Sort of.

487 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 9:22:10am
488 withak  May 28, 2015 9:26:26am

re: #487 lawhawk

Well, Mr. Cain knows all about doomed candidacy and pretending.

489 blueraven  May 28, 2015 9:27:00am

re: #482 Lord Of The Pies

WTFITS==>

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It looks, to me, that Bernie was talking about what was prevalent in so-called Smut magazines at the time, and trying to understand the appeal.

490 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:29:11am

re: #482 Lord Of The Pies

WTFITS==>

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Bernie was setting up a narrative about a specific fictional character not all women.

He actually said “A woman enjoys intercourse…” not “Women enjoy intercourse …”.

He was talking about the conflict, the lack of communication and the objectification in men’s and women’s perception of each other.

It’s just another Ben quote mine. He’s looking for attention now that Chuckie is gone and he has some chance of gaining his notoriety back.

491 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:29:26am

OBAMA IS CONTROLLING THE WEATHER! GRAB YOUR BUG OUT BAGS AND RUN FOR THE HILLS! PROTECT THE WIMMINS AND CHILDRENS!!11!!

492 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:30:13am

re: #489 blueraven

It looks, to me, that Bernie was talking about what was prevalent in so-called Smut magazines at the time, and trying to understand the appeal.

I didn’t quite get that from it, but it sure wasn’t what Bennie is trying to make it out to be.

493 Lidane  May 28, 2015 9:31:13am

Sure, that’ll help:

494 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 9:32:55am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Caption contest time:

1) And that screen there sets the tornado duration and size; that screen over there sets flood levels and locations; and that screen over there is specifically targets those who don’t believe global warming is real- that one is set to 11. President’s inner voice: Eggsellent.

495 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 9:33:20am

E gad, this daniel sieradski guy’s avatar. Remind you guys of anyone?

*gags, runs from room, screaming… nooooooo…*

496 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 9:33:22am

re: #475 allegro

He and Abbott only do that for audiences not currently under water. Then they’re all about what THEY will do for us little people without mentioning that it’s the federal dollars and help they’re talking about.

Surprised that Abbott has appeared in the flooded areas in a MG-armed skiff in order to protect Texas citizens from the “looters”.
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497 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:33:51am

re: #493 Lidane

Sure, that’ll help:

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Trigger warning: that Rawstory link has a big old photo of Pam’s hunk-of-ugly botoxed kisser.

498 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:35:27am
499 Lidane  May 28, 2015 9:35:36am

In a column for the National Review on Tuesday, Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies proposed requiring formerly incarcerated people to pass what is essentially a literacy test in order to regain their right to vote.

Krikorian praised Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan’s recent veto of a bill expanding voting rights for ex-felons but added that conservatives should give “more thought” to the issue of reenfranchising formerly incarcerated people, who because of disparities in the criminal justice system are disproportionately African American.

His idea: requiring ex-felons to pass the same citizenship test in order to regain their right to vote that immigrants pass in order to become citizens.

500 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:36:29am

re: #495 CuriousLurker

OTOH, I saw on his TL that he retweeted this handy Photoshop tip:

501 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 9:36:30am

re: #485 De Kolta Chair

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That Gibson Barney Kessell model he’s playing is such a knockout.

502 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:37:21am

re: #494 lawhawk

Caption contest time:

1) And that screen there sets the tornado duration and size; that screen over there sets flood levels and locations; and that screen over there is specifically targets those who don’t believe global warming is real- that one is set to 11. President’s inner voice: Eggsellent.

Everything needs to be turned up to 11.

503 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 9:37:42am

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

OTOH, I saw on his TL that he retweeted this handy Photoshop tip:

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That’s a handy tip I wasn’t aware of. Thanks!

504 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 9:37:46am

re: #493 Lidane

Sure, that’ll help:

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If you don’t draw a mohammed cartoon right now you love sharia.

505 allegro  May 28, 2015 9:37:51am

re: #499 Lidane

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If that was required of all voters it would entirely wipe out the GOP in the next election. Hmmmm….

506 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:40:47am

Welp, here’s a helpful suggestion on how to organize the GOP debates:

507 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:41:05am

re: #504 BigPapa

If you don’t draw a mohammed cartoon right now you love sharia.

I can’t draw.

I guess I must really love sharia.

I should have named my dog Sharia.

508 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:41:50am

re: #507 b_sharp

I can’t draw.

I guess I must really love sharia.

I should have named my dog Sharia.

Bosch Fawstin can’t draw either. All those scrawls were totally lame.

509 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 9:42:15am

re: #499 Lidane

I’m mildly curious if the guy can pass that citizenship test himself right now.
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510 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 9:43:01am

re: #507 b_sharp

I can’t draw.

I guess I must really love sharia.

I should have named my dog Sharia.

I can’t read “Sharia” without the West Side Story song “Maria” starting in my head.

511 allegro  May 28, 2015 9:44:12am

re: #510 Eventual Carrion

I can’t read “Sharia” without the West Side Story song “Maria” starting in my head.

I hear My Sherona. Got a better beat for a funner earworm.

512 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 9:44:47am

re: #510 Eventual Carrion

I can’t read “Sharia” without the West Side Story song “Maria” starting in my head.

I get My Sharona in my head every. single.time.

513 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 9:45:00am

re: #495 CuriousLurker

E gad, this daniel sieradski guy’s avatar. Remind you guys of anyone?

One anagram of Daniel Sieradski is kindlier idea ass.

514 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:46:13am

ooops…

Volvo plows into pedestrians during safety demo
…

Car gone wild at safety training. CNN’s Jeanne Moos reports instead of detecting pedestrians, it plowed into them.

515 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:47:50am

re: #514 Backwoods_Sleuth

ooops…

Volvo plows into pedestrians during safety demo
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That “crash avoidance” is only programmed for other vehicles, not pedestrians.

516 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 9:48:24am

Heh, one of my old avatars form when I’s said I was gonna name my next cat Sharia so I could call for it every day:

Also this one, which hasn’t been used in a long time:

517 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:48:26am

…

518 allegro  May 28, 2015 9:48:29am

re: #515 Lord Of The Pies

That “crash avoidance” is only programmed for other vehicles, not pedestrians.

Oh NOW you tell them!

519 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:49:47am

re: #515 Lord Of The Pies

That “crash avoidance” is only programmed for other vehicles, not pedestrians.

CNN reporting strikes again!

520 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:51:33am

I’m afraid to click on the hashtag.

521 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 9:51:34am

re: #481 Lidane

Holy wow. Its like I know, but you don’t *really* know until you know.

Unless you’re a woman, you just know.

522 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 9:53:33am
523 Lidane  May 28, 2015 9:54:05am

ROFL:

Appearing on the “Point of View” radio program yesterday, Zmirak said that Christian consumers need to start threatening companies like Apple and Walmart with boycotts since these companies opposed “right to discriminate” laws in Indiana and Arkansas.

“We need to threaten them back,” he said. “I can’t believe any Christian in America will ever buy an Apple product again after the CEO of Apple threatened Indiana over religious freedom. I can’t believe any Christian will go to Walmart after Walmart threatened Arkansas over religious freedom. You know what? You want to take my religious freedom away, I won’t buy from your business. I will make the sacrifice and buy something else or I will do without, but I am not going to patronize the enemies of my religion. If we keep buying these products from companies that want to persecute us, we pretty much deserve it.”

524 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 9:56:15am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somebody has to teach gym.

525 blueraven  May 28, 2015 9:57:10am

re: #490 b_sharp

Bernie was setting up a narrative about a specific fictional character not all women.

He actually said “A woman enjoys intercourse…” not “Women enjoy intercourse …”.

He was talking about the conflict, the lack of communication and the objectification in men’s and women’s perception of each other.

It’s just another Ben quote mine. He’s looking for attention now that Chuckie is gone and he has some chance of gaining his notoriety back.

Yes, I agree. But the first two scenarios about rape fantasy seem to be what he has seen in magazines. He asks…Have you ever looked at Stag, Nero (other mags). Do you wonder why newspapers with articles like Girl 12 raped by 14 men, sell so well? To what in us are they appealing?

Then he goes on with the fictional couple, trying to answer those questions.
A bit rambling, in a 70s psychobabble kind of way, but as you say…not at all what Ben is trying to suggest here.

526 allegro  May 28, 2015 9:57:16am

re: #523 Lidane

ROFL:

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I can’t even imagine that level of cognitive dysfunction.

527 Lidane  May 28, 2015 9:57:46am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone’s got to teach all those shop classes, I guess.

528 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 9:57:55am

re: #523 Lidane

The idea of people in Bible belt states boycotting Walmart is just stupefyingly silly.

529 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 9:58:07am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

Would it allow ‘homeschooled’ people to teach HS?

Hm…

530 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 9:58:19am

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s pretty offensive. I guess I’m not surprised considering the source is a full metal wingnut asshole: donotlink.com

It’s a perfect illustration of what I was trying to explain to Sergey the other day about haters using Muslim women because they’re the most easily identifiable & vulnerable symbols of Islam.

531 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 9:58:32am

re: #511 allegro

I hear My Sherona. Got a better beat for a funner earworm.

You brat.

532 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 9:59:08am

re: #527 Lidane

Someone’s got to teach all those shop classes, I guess.

Mr. Three Fingers, can you help me?

533 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 9:59:26am

re: #512 BigPapa

I get My Sharona in my head every. single.time.

And that leads to remembering that horrible video Pamz did for ‘My Sharia.’

I’d rather not think of it at all.

534 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 10:00:24am

re: #530 CuriousLurker

my apologies. I’ll delete it.

535 Bubblehead II  May 28, 2015 10:00:29am

re: #515 Lord Of The Pies

That “crash avoidance” is only programmed for other vehicles, not pedestrians.

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

CNN reporting strikes again!

Actually, the car they were using for the demo wasn’t equipped with the auto-braking/pedestrian detection system. And CNN did report that.

536 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 10:00:34am
“You are adhering to Islamic law,” Geller shot back. “The things you say about me are hateful and bigoted.”

No, Pam. They are saying YOU ARE hateful and bigoted. That’s an observation, not a hateful comment about you. I’d say ‘Look in a mirror.’ but your daughters might get hurt on the broken glass.

537 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 10:02:17am

The climate change questions at the #AskPOTUS hashtag are just as dreadful as I expected.

538 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:02:50am

I think Pam should get Bosch Fawstin’s “award winning cartoon” tattooed on her forehead. Walk the walk.

539 TedStriker  May 28, 2015 10:03:16am

re: #527 Lidane

Someone’s got to teach all those shop classes, I guess.

re: #532 Eventual Carrion

Mr. Three Fingers, can you help me?

…

540 CuriousLurker  May 28, 2015 10:03:24am

re: #534 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks, but it’s not necessary. I understand that people might not be aware since it’s not part of their daily experience.

FWIW, if it was a good-natured parody—or even if it was clearly aimed only at extremists—I’d probably be laughing along with you. But it’s not. It’s aimed at any and all women who wear hijab, including me.

541 BigPapa  May 28, 2015 10:04:41am

re: #530 CuriousLurker

Oh damn, My Sharona is forever ruined. And Pamerz the Vile did one?

Gah. Get. Out. Head. Brain Bleach.

542 Kragar  May 28, 2015 10:05:05am
543 darthstar  May 28, 2015 10:05:34am
544 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:06:20am

re: #542 Kragar

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Anecdotal I know but I’ve seen this with my brother and his friends. He’s really only got one friend who is quote on quote religious and from what they say the kid isn’t exactly the walk the talk type anyhow.

545 Dr. Matt  May 28, 2015 10:06:22am

Click to zoom

#PamGeller vs. #TheJoker #Sharialaw #CreepingSharia
546 makeitstop  May 28, 2015 10:06:45am

re: #541 BigPapa

Oh damn, My Sharona is forever ruined. And Pamerz the Vile did one?

Gah. Get. Out. Head. Brain Bleach.

Yes, she did. It’s her clomping around her apartment in thigh-high boots, singing badly.

Fuck. Pass the damn bleach.

547 withak  May 28, 2015 10:07:07am

re: #542 Kragar

One quibble: you can’t “flee” from something you never embraced in the first place.

548 allegro  May 28, 2015 10:08:34am

re: #546 makeitstop

Yes, she did. It’s her clomping around her apartment in thigh-high boots, singing badly.

Fuck. Pass the damn bleach.

I spare my brain to preserve my well-being by avoiding such things. Highly recommended.

549 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:08:51am

I think today’s young people just see religion being used time and time again as a tool for hate. And frankly it’s why I was skeptical about religion as a teenager and still am really.

550 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:09:03am

Dana, still spewing the firehose of rage==>

551 Kragar  May 28, 2015 10:09:29am

re: #547 withak

One quibble: you can’t “flee” from something you never embraced in the first place.

One can flee from something you don’t want to give any time to discussing:

“Hi, can I talk to you about the Church of - “

“NOPE!”

552 allegro  May 28, 2015 10:10:26am

re: #547 withak

One quibble: you can’t “flee” from something you never embraced in the first place.

You can certainly flee when being pursued by religious hoards as we are in the US today. Resemblance to zombies not unintentional.

553 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:12:08am

re: #545 Dr. Matt

GAH!

554 allegro  May 28, 2015 10:12:40am

re: #549 HappyWarrior

I think today’s young people just see religion being used time and time again as a tool for hate. And frankly it’s why I was skeptical about religion as a teenager and still am really.

That’s what did it for me even as a little kid. Jesus seemed like an okay dude but that god was an asshole.

555 freetoken  May 28, 2015 10:12:48am

re: #542 Kragar

Twenge cites a surge of individualism as the force behind atheism’s relative appeal to a young, self-centric generation. She’s literally written the book on the subject: “Generation Me.” In it, Twenge provides academic rational to support the allegation that children born in the 1980’s and 1990’s form an “Entitlement Generation,” which she describes as being “tolerant, confident, open-minded, and ambitious but also disengaged, narcissistic, distrustful, and anxious.”

Not a particularly glowing descriptions of our god-less youth, though.

556 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:14:04am

re: #550 Lord Of The Pies

“I’ll give you an example. I’m pro-life, I’ve passed pro-life legislation. We defunded Planned Parenthood, we signed a law that requires an ultrasound. Which, the thing about that, the media tried to make that sound like that was a crazy idea. Most people I talk to, whether they’re pro-life or not, I find people all the time who’ll get out their iPhone and show me a picture of their grandkids’ ultrasound and how excited they are, so that’s a lovely thing. I think about my sons are 19 and 20, you know we still have their first ultrasound picture. It’s just a cool thing out there.

“We just knew if we signed that law, if we provided the information, that more people if they saw that unborn child would, would make a decision to protect and keep the life of that unborn child.”

Dana can’t read.

557 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:14:27am

re: #550 Lord Of The Pies

Dana, still spewing the firehose of rage==>

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He was talking about his sons’ ultra sound images but he was also talking about ultra sounds in general. Walker’s the one who chose to talk about ultra sounds when bragging about how “pro life” he is by talking about how he signed a bill defunding PP and a bill forcing an ultrasound. Dana can cry all she wants but Walker is rightfully being criticized here. She really has a thing for right wing politicians who hate women doesn’t she though? I recall her defending Legitimate Rape Akin too as another “victim” of the “liberal media.”

558 Zamb  May 28, 2015 10:14:31am

re: #555 freetoken

It’s a favorite American past time to shit on kids doing exactly what generations before them did.

559 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:14:59am

re: #556 jaunte

Dana can’t read.

That’s because she’s too busy fucking a gun to learn.

560 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:15:45am

This wingnut’s illustration of “The Nuclear Family” is a white guy buying a native brown girl.

And he also has the “creepy dead eyed children”

561 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:15:50am

re: #558 Zamb

It’s a favorite American past time to shit on kids doing exactly what generations before them did.

Indeed. No disrespect to older folks here but I really get tired of boomers and Gen Xers ragging on my generation for many of the same things they did.

562 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:17:14am

re: #554 allegro

That’s what did it for me even as a little kid. Jesus seemed like an okay dude but that god was an asshole.

Yeah, I was always confused by that. God is supposed to be loving but yet comes off awfully spiteful. I never really liked the supernatural miracles as well. The whole immaculate birth, Christ returns from the dead, etc too.

563 Great White Snark  May 28, 2015 10:17:34am

re: #561 HappyWarrior

Somewhere on the internet is this rant about the shortcomings of the youth of the day. Allegedly a Roman Senate rant.

564 allegro  May 28, 2015 10:18:04am

re: #555 freetoken

Not a particularly glowing descriptions of our god-less youth, though.

With what seems to be an entirely contradicive descrption. Confident AND anxious? Tolerant AND disengaged? Open-minded AND distrustful? Calling bullshit.

565 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 10:18:46am
566 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:18:46am

re: #563 Great White Snark

Somewhere on the internet is this rant about the shortcomings of the youth of the day. Allegedly a Roman Senate rant.

I’m sure of it heh.

567 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:19:29am
568 Kragar  May 28, 2015 10:19:38am

re: #563 Great White Snark

Somewhere on the internet is this rant about the shortcomings of the youth of the day. Allegedly a Roman Senate rant.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

― Socrates

569 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:19:51am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ah yes teh baker/florist/photographer is being “mistreated” by people calling out their bullshit but they’re not mistreating anyone out at all by discriminating against people.

570 darthstar  May 28, 2015 10:20:00am
571 freetoken  May 28, 2015 10:20:10am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

The martyrdom meme is rising hard among American fundamentalists. That’s why we’re seeing so much “religious liberty” talk from the GOP candidates.

572 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:20:21am

re: #567 Lord Of The Pies

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Oh the good old days when church and state were together in this country.//

573 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 28, 2015 10:20:31am

And there you have it, Ted Cruz supports federal relief funds for Texas Floods, opposed Hurricane Sandy relief.

Money for me, not for thee.

574 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:21:12am

re: #571 freetoken

The martyrdom meme is rising hard among American fundamentalists. That’s why we’re seeing so much “religious liberty” talk from the GOP candidates.

They think they’re martyrs but the reality is they’re just pathetic bullies who can’t deal with a modern world that doesn’t treat people who are gay as deviants who deserve to be treated like social pariahs.

575 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:22:24am

re: #573 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And there you have it, Ted Cruz supports federal relief funds for Texas Floods, opposed Hurricane Sandy relief.

Money for me, not for thee.

Who’s shocked? I have no problem helping Texas out in this time but a healthy fuck you to Ted and the other Republicans who opposed it following Sandy but now want it now that their own constituents have been effected by a disaster. I see Abbott is begging Obama for help too. Abbott is another one who can go fuck himself.

576 dholmes32  May 28, 2015 10:23:35am

Ugh. Pam Geller Round 2 visits the Phoenix Area tomorrow:

First there will be a Draw Muhammad Contest at a local Dennys, then move on to the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, which is on I-17 (Black Canyon Highway).

Then they plan to move on to a protest at the mosque.

12news.com

The organizer, a ******** named Jon Ritzheimer, claims to be an atheist and former marine.

The Phoenix police are aware of this. I’m hoping a temperature in the mid to high 90s will discourage this thing. Not happy about this at all!

577 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2015 10:24:17am

Kory is still at it:

On his Facebook page this morning, Mansfield’s Kory Watkins — the Dallas-born, fedora-sporting Olive Garden bartender who’s currently a Tarrant County Republican Party precinct chair — wrote that he’s “calling for the arrest of every elected official in Texas that voted against open carry.” Said Watkins, “They should be arrested, charged with treason and should face a punishment that could result in being hung from the tree of liberty.”

578 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:24:34am

re: #576 dholmes32

Ugh. Pam Geller Round 2 visits the Phoenix Area tomorrow:

First there will be a Draw Muhammad Contest at a local Dennys, then move on to the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, which is on I-17 (Black Canyon Highway).

Then they plan to move on to a protest at the mosque.

12news.com

The organizer, a ******** named Jon Ritzheimer, claims to be an atheist and former marine.

The Phoenix police are aware of this. I’m hoping a temperature in the mid to high 90s will discourage this thing. Not happy about this at all!

Pam and her friends have a problem with the whole first amendment thing.

579 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:25:46am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kory is still at it:

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Kory still looks like an obnoxious tool using a gun to compensate for being a little man. And he looks even more stupid using that often abused Jefferson quote.

580 withak  May 28, 2015 10:26:02am

re: #552 allegro

You can certainly flee when being pursued by religious hoards as we are in the US today. Resemblance to zombies not unintentional.

Yeah, I was just comparing my own experiences with leaving religion (I consciously and actively “fled”/left Catholicism) vs. my own kids’ experience of simply being brought up in a non-religious household.

My kids aren’t old enough to have taken part in the survey, but they’re of the age now where they are at least somewhat aware of religion and what it means for us to not participate in it. They haven’t “fled” from anything; rather, they just mostly ignore it.

I’d be curious to see how many of the non-religious respondents to the survey were raised in non-religious households.

581 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:26:07am

As much as they claim to hate the government they sure go running for money fast when disaster strikes.

If I were Obama, I’d take Abbott to task before paying out anything.

582 Targetpractice  May 28, 2015 10:26:47am

re: #573 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And there you have it, Ted Cruz supports federal relief funds for Texas Floods, opposed Hurricane Sandy relief.

Money for me, not for thee.

And you can be sure that any talk of offsets will be met with hysterics about “delaying aid.”

583 darthstar  May 28, 2015 10:27:14am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mmm…Olive Garden.

584 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:27:34am

re: #578 HappyWarrior

What could possibly go wrong?

585 withak  May 28, 2015 10:27:36am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kory is still at it:

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He’s still got that stupid hat, and now gets to wave that awesome not-compensating-for-anything flag with a giant dong on it.

What a tool.

586 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:27:48am

re: #581 Eclectic Cyborg

As much as they claim to hate the government they sure go running for money fast when disaster strikes.

If I were Obama, I’d take Abbott to task before paying out anything.

Well remember there are millions of people in Texas who aren’t Abbott. I’d love Obama to call out Abbott for calling him a tyrant and then begging him for money though.

587 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 28, 2015 10:27:55am

re: #564 allegro

With what seems to be an entirely contradicive descrption. Confident AND anxious? Tolerant AND disengaged? Open-minded AND distrustful? Calling bullshit.

I would argue that the useful part of the study is the survey data. Not the explanations for the reasons behind the data, which are very, very speculative.

588 Lidane  May 28, 2015 10:27:58am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminder: the people who are currently the most vocal opponents of the open carry law here in Texas as it’s written are law enforcement.

Kory Watkins and his hat are nutjobs.

589 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 10:28:04am

re: #563 Great White Snark

Somewhere on the internet is this rant about the shortcomings of the youth of the day. Allegedly a Roman Senate rant.

I’ve seen one in a book quoting merchants and civic officials in Oxford complaining about the university students being drunk, loud, irreligious, and destructive. In the 1200s.

I used a quote from that in a speech I gave at a fraternity event. :)

590 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:28:08am
591 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:28:49am

re: #588 Lidane

Reminder: the people who are currently the most vocal opponents of the open carry law here in Texas as it’s written are law enforcement.

Kory Watkins and his hat are nutjobs.

I choose to believe he wears the hat because his head is flat above the eyebrows.

592 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:29:13am

re: #590 Lord Of The Pies

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Dana raging per usual. She needs help.

593 lawhawk  May 28, 2015 10:29:20am

re: #570 darthstar

Looks like I might get a chance at a snapshot in about 90 minutes:

Via Notify NYC: At 3:00 PM, nine Canadian Snowbirds will conduct a flyover over the Hudson River. The aircraft, flying at an altitude of approximately 1500 feet, will fly northeast from New Jersey over the Verrazano Bridge, and will continue north over the Hudson River to the Tappan Zee Bridge. For a photo of the aircraft, please visit bit.ly.

That’s weather permitting given that they’ve got severe storm watches in effect for the area.

594 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:29:56am

re: #589 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve seen one in a book quoting merchants and civic officials in Oxford complaining about the university students being drunk, loud, irreligious, and destructive. In the 1200s.

I used a quote from that in a speech I gave at a fraternity event. :)

You Magna Carters (I have no idea what to call that generation) have no idea how good you have it.

595 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 10:29:58am

re: #581 Eclectic Cyborg

As much as they claim to hate the government they sure go running for money fast when disaster strikes.

If I were Obama, I’d take Abbott to task before paying out anything.

Maybe require a special excise tax on Texas to help pay it back.
:p

Make them cut back to 5 gal hats as well.
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596 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:29:58am

re: #590 Lord Of The Pies

I see she’s trying to stake a claim on the CCJ Persistent Bastard Award.

597 darthstar  May 28, 2015 10:30:02am
598 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:30:55am

re: #590 Lord Of The Pies

It’s very clear that he was talking about imposing a procedure on women that don’t want it, not the personal value of an ultrasound photo. She’s just lying.

599 b.d.  May 28, 2015 10:30:56am

re: #590 Lord Of The Pies

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from someone who makes a living off of fake quotes

600 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:31:08am

re: #597 darthstar

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He’s probably the most genuinely credible voice the left has had running for president in a while.

601 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 10:31:29am

re: #560 Lord Of The Pies

This wingnut’s illustration of “The Nuclear Family” is a white guy buying a native brown girl.

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Where did Marx want to destroy the nuclear family?

602 dholmes32  May 28, 2015 10:31:38am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s Denny Burk. I gave him a piece of my mind. However, as I have Two X Chromosome Syndrome (aka I’m a woman) I was ignored.

603 withak  May 28, 2015 10:31:44am

re: #597 darthstar

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Seems Mr. Stein doesn’t understand just how progressive Minneapolis is.

604 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:32:01am

re: #598 jaunte

It’s very clear that he was talking about imposing a procedure on women that don’t want it, not the personal value of an ultrasound photo. She’s just lying.

It seems to me he was remarking about the novelty of ultrasound photos while also bragging about how he defunded PP and forced ultrasounds on women wanting abortions. She and he can go fuck themselves.

605 b.d.  May 28, 2015 10:32:45am

re: #597 darthstar

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What is nuts is having more than 3 people in line waiting to see Santorum or Huckabee

606 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:32:46am

re: #601 b_sharp

Where did Marx want to destroy the nuclear family?

wingnut fantasyland.

607 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:33:10am

re: #601 b_sharp

Where did Marx want to destroy the nuclear family?

HURR HURR BECAUSE HE TEH COMMUNISTS!!!!1!!!!

608 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 10:33:46am

re: #593 lawhawk

Looks like I might get a chance at a snapshot in about 90 minutes:

Via Notify NYC: At 3:00 PM, nine Canadian Snowbirds will conduct a flyover over the Hudson River. The aircraft, flying at an altitude of approximately 1500 feet, will fly northeast from New Jersey over the Verrazano Bridge, and will continue north over the Hudson River to the Tappan Zee Bridge. For a photo of the aircraft, please visit bit.ly.

That’s weather permitting given that they’ve got severe storm watches in effect for the area.

See if you can get a picture of them with their wings all in mid-flap.

609 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:34:27am
610 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 10:35:49am

re: #606 HappyWarrior

wingnut fantasyland.

Marx was one of the first to say women should be valued as highly as men and was in some cases pretty gender neutral in his beliefs. (if memory serves)

611 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:35:51am

So Dana is going to have a do-over and then delete the audio that is linked at the top of this page and claim it never existed.

612 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:35:55am

re: #609 Lord Of The Pies

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So he was talking about forcing ultrasounds on women who are pregnant. So no one misquoted him, Dana, you can get your head out of your gun again please.

613 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:36:01am
“…Regardless of the philosophical debate, the practical question is whether mandatory ultrasounds can actually impact a woman’s decision. Not really, according to the largest study ever conducted on the policy.

Last year, researchers pored over 15,575 medical records from an abortion provider in Los Angeles. Nearly all patients who saw a sonogram still opted to terminate their pregnancy — and those who changed their mind reported entering the clinic with uncertainty…”
washingtonpost.com

614 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:36:35am

The problem is Walker compared an non invasive procedure to an invasive one. Apples and Oranges.

615 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:36:44am

re: #610 b_sharp

Marx was one of the first to say women should be valued as highly as men and was in some cases pretty gender neutral in his beliefs. (if memory serves)

I think I recall reading he had a close relationship with his youngest daughter. Wingnuts have no idea what Marx actually stood for.

616 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 10:37:21am

re: #611 Lord Of The Pies

So Dana is going to have a do-over and then delete the audio that is linked at the top of this page and claim it never existed.

Dana should be scanned by a prog twice a day.

617 b.d.  May 28, 2015 10:38:09am

re: #616 wrenchwench

Dana should be scanned by a prog twice a day.

They should do an ultrasound in Dana’s skull to see what’s in there.

618 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:38:20am

re: #614 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is Walker compared an non invasive procedure to an invasive one. Apples and Oranges.

Right, he chose to talk about the measure he signed into law while talk about voluntary ultrasounds. He also bragged about defunding Planned Parenthood. Seems to me Walker phrased this exactly to get hacks like Loesch to go BUT HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HIS SONS.

619 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:38:37am

re: #617 b.d.

They should do an ultrasound in Dana’s skull to see what’s in there.

peanut?

620 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:38:42am

re: #615 HappyWarrior

I think I recall reading he had a close relationship with his youngest daughter. Wingnuts have no idea what Marx actually stood for.

They orobably think he was Grouchos brother.

621 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:39:30am

re: #619 HappyWarrior

peanut?

Smaller…

622 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:39:53am

re: #620 Eclectic Cyborg

They orobably think he was Grouchos brother.

Nah, they know who he is by sight. They just know he’s bad because right wing “intellectuals” tell them so.

623 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:40:54am

re: #617 b.d.

They should do an ultrasound in Dana’s skull to see what’s in there.

Chock full o’ oppositional defiance syndrome.

624 blueraven  May 28, 2015 10:41:12am

Walker sure has to do a lot of clean up work. It is almost like, well, like you cant believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

625 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 10:41:29am

re: #545 Dr. Matt

Click to zoom

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Gah!!! Pammy is looking rough.

I guess all that hate is showing.

626 BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2015 10:41:48am

re: #157 RealityBasedSteve

And he has to release it. Goliath Groupers are a protected species, no harvest allowed. (and as a side note, until 2001 they were known as Jewfish, but the American Fisheries Society stopped using that name)

RBS

There’s still Jewfish Creek in Key Largo, FL.

627 EPR-radar  May 28, 2015 10:41:52am

re: #614 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is Walker compared an non invasive procedure to an invasive one. Apples and Oranges.

More importantly, Walker conflated a procedure having consent with a procedure lacking consent.

Why am I not surprised that right wing nut jobs like Walker are clueless about consent?

628 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:42:29am

Not clueless, just lying.

629 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:44:04am

The defunding Planned Parenthood one pisses me off because here’s the prick trying to act like he’s a happy dad and will be a happy grandfather in the future and here’s he talking about defunding an organization that has helped millions of women over the years. And why? Because his party’s base buys the bullshit that PP does nothing but perform abortions even though PP has done more for mothers than any Republican politician has.

630 BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2015 10:45:01am

re: #620 Eclectic Cyborg

They orobably think he was Grouchos brother.

Zeppo or Gummo?

631 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 10:47:41am

re: #619 HappyWarrior

peanut?

I’d love to but the oil bothers my stomach.

632 wrenchwench  May 28, 2015 10:48:34am

re: #625 ObserverArt

Gah!!! Pammy is looking rough.

I guess all that hate is showing.

She is proof that money and booze can’t undo what hate has done.

633 jaunte  May 28, 2015 10:48:36am

“…What did Texas legislators do for Memorial Day weekend, apart from debating whether to cut education benefits for veterans? Bickering about abortion, mostly. An odd sequence of events at the Capitol, culminating in a near-fistfight on the House floor, turned Sunday into a pretty good day for pro-choice activists. (That is, of course, relatively speaking.)

Though one major package of abortion restrictions is likely to win final approval in the next week, another significant anti-abortion initiative is dead and a third could meet the same fate Monday, victim of a legislative logjam in the House.”

634 EPR-radar  May 28, 2015 10:49:18am

re: #628 jaunte

Not clueless, just lying.

That’s actually a difficult call. “Why bother to lie about whether or not property has any autonomy?” is a believable attitude on the part of RWNJs.

635 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:50:03am

re: #633 jaunte

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I hate it when Mommy Wingnut and Daddy Wingnut fight. //

636 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 10:50:24am

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kory is still at it:

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Ohhh. Looks like Kory got himself a bigger dick clip!

637 Targetpractice  May 28, 2015 10:51:12am

re: #627 EPR-radar

More importantly, Walker conflated a procedure having consent with a procedure lacking consent.

Why am I not surprised that right wing nut jobs like Walker are clueless about consent?

I was just about to point that out, that he was conflating a voluntary procedure and how “cool” it is with one that by law a woman cannot choose to avoid. And since the law says you must view a sonogram, that means (wait for it) that if they can’t see it with a non-invasive procedure, then they are bound by law to use an invasive one before the abortion can be performed. So it doesn’t matter what “most people” choose, Scotty, because you’re not giving them a choice!

638 Bubblehead II  May 28, 2015 10:52:27am

re: #625 ObserverArt

Gah!!! Pammy is looking rough.

I guess all that hate is showing.

The dark side will do that to you. Just look at what it did to Palpatine.

639 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 28, 2015 10:52:40am

re: #637 Targetpractice

Facts are hard and confusing.

640 Lidane  May 28, 2015 10:53:42am

Pro tip: Bragging about your Candy Crush level doesn’t make you a gamer.

Also, ROFL Ted Cruz.

641 Archangelus  May 28, 2015 10:54:04am

Today’s moment of unanticipated unintentional humor - hearing people on a random Israeli radio show briefly discuss US politics and move on to another subject after giving up trying to tell apart and make sense of the GOP candidates after maybe a couple of minutes…

re: #447 Lord Of The Pies

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This seems more accurate:

642 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 10:55:14am

re: #633 jaunte

Expect a special session again in order to jam that stuff through in a week or two. Probably with special rules limiting debate and extra special “speak while hopping on one leg and beating a drum” filibuster rules.
:p

643 Archangelus  May 28, 2015 10:55:34am

re: #640 Lidane

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SERIOUSLY?!?! Playing CANDY FREAKIN’ CRUSH equates to being a Gamer?!?!

/InnerGamerRage

644 Targetpractice  May 28, 2015 10:55:52am

re: #640 Lidane

Pro tip: Bragging about your Candy Crush level doesn’t make you a gamer.

Also, ROFL Ted Cruz.

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“First Gamer President”? Candy Crush? Is this a joke?

645 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 10:55:52am

re: #640 Lidane

Pro tip: Bragging about your Candy Crush level doesn’t make you a gamer.

Also, ROFL Ted Cruz.

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PLEASE LIKE ME!

646 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:56:01am

re: #641 Archangelus

Today’s moment of unanticipated unintentional humor - hearing people on a random Israeli radio show briefly discuss US politics and move on to another subject after giving up trying to tell apart and make sense of the GOP candidates after maybe a couple of minutes…

This seems more accurate:

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It would make sense if you explain that in Israel, each one of these candidates would have his own party.

647 Ace-o-aces  May 28, 2015 10:56:10am
648 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 10:56:22am

re: #643 Archangelus

SERIOUSLY?!?! Playing CANDY FREAKIN’ CRUSH equates to being a Gamer?!?!

/InnerGamerRage

Is ethics in Candy Crush giving special consideration to the peppermints?
///

649 William Lewis  May 28, 2015 10:56:41am

re: #597 darthstar

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Wish I could attend. I’ll donate some money instead.

650 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 10:56:42am

re: #601 b_sharp

Where did Marx want to destroy the nuclear family?

I think it was right after the family moved out of the Manhattan Projects!

651 Archangelus  May 28, 2015 10:57:47am

On the topic of Candy Crush:

Youtube Video

652 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 10:58:05am

I so totally want to gay-marry Tammy Duckworth
TAMMY FOR PRESIDENT

653 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2015 11:00:04am

re: #652 Lord Of The Pies

I so totally want to gay-marry Tammy Duckworth
TAMMY FOR PRESIDENT

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She is going to be a great candidate to go up against Mark Kirk. So glad that she’s running for senate. Tammy is tough, intelligent, and a great voice for veterans issues. I totally expect the Illinois GOP to try to slime her and I expect it to backlash given that Kirk benefited from the 2010 GOP Wave and that his opponent had problems that Duckworth does not.

654 Lord Of The Pies  May 28, 2015 11:00:23am
655 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 11:00:49am

re: #609 Lord Of The Pies

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Hey Dana,

Here is what I would like to know. Why did Scotty need to mention about his son’s ultra sound images in the context of his defense of his abortion mandates? Did it have anything to do with downplaying the whole idea of a woman being forced to have the invasive ultrasound?

656 Dr. Matt  May 28, 2015 11:01:51am
657 Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2015 11:02:35am

re: #650 ObserverArt

I think it was right after the family moved out of the Manhattan Projects!

Did they leave in the Trans-Uranium railroad?

658 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 11:03:57am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And the meek shall inherit the earth, as soon as the deep dish pepperoni gets here!

659 Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2015 11:04:57am

re: #570 darthstar

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You’d fly fast too if your ass was on fire.

660 ObserverArt  May 28, 2015 11:05:29am

re: #614 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is Walker compared an non invasive procedure to an invasive one. Apples and Oranges.

And there was a very good reason he mentioned them both. He wanted his audience to make the connection. Ultrasounds are no big thing, you’ve all seen those really cool ultrasounds. Yeah, it’s just like that, so were not passing some kind of a monstrous bill here.

Dana is really working it for Scotty, isn’t she?

661 b_sharp  May 28, 2015 11:08:28am

re: #640 Lidane

Pro tip: Bragging about your Candy Crush level doesn’t make you a gamer.

Also, ROFL Ted Cruz.

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Being a gamer doesn’t make you a geek does it?

662 Jebediah, RBG  May 28, 2015 3:09:20pm

re: #594 HappyWarrior

You Magna Carters (I have no idea what to call that generation) have no idea how good you have it.

“Magna Carters” sounds right, but more importantly it suggests an AWESOME action movie. Opening shot: Jimmy Carter on a Habitat for Humanity jobsite. A cell phone rings and Carter answers it. Saying “OK, got it” with a look of resigned exasperation, he puts down the framing hammer and picks up a large sledgehammer as he walks out of frame. Push in to a small radio, as we hear the announcer mention an upcoming Ted Cruz press conference.

Might need a little fleshing out.

663 Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2015 6:29:39pm

re: #647 Ace-o-aces

And he’s gloating that this account won’t be taken out because it’s under the control of a different person. Looks like Twitter’s policy needs to be tweaked to not only cover in-duh-viduals but the web properties they own.


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