Overnight Jam: Madisen Ward and the Mama Bear, NPR Tiny Desk Concert

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There’s sweetness to Madisen Ward And The Mama Bear’s music that makes me smile, and then there’s so much more. I first saw the Kansas City mother-and-son duo perform last fall in Nashville’s Blue Room, a small, perfect-sounding stage at Third Man Records. The bluesy roots of the music suited the space, and the sound — with young Madisen Ward’s powerful, quivering voice backed by his mother Ruth — had a homespun feel. But there’s vitality to the pair’s music that kept it from feeling like a throwback or a gimmick. I immediately set out to get them to the Tiny Desk.

Now, eight months later, the Wards have released their first album, released the day we recorded this concert. Their heartfelt Tiny Desk set features some playful banter, while the songs themselves are memorable and singable even days after you hear them. In all, it’s a perfect introduction to a one-of-a-kind duo.

Set List
“Silent Movies”
“Sorrows And Woes”
“Daisy Jane”

Credits
Producers: Bob Boilen, Maggie Starbard; Audio Engineer: Brian Jarboe; Videographers: Morgan McCloy, Maggie Starbard; Assistant Producer: Michaela Gugliotta; photo by Morgan McCloy/NPR

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403 comments
1 psddluva4evah  May 28, 2015 9:06:57pm

Music on my mind as I go to bed. Just saw the trailer for the new Amy Winehouse documentary.

Came across this LIVE performance of “Valerie”

Whatever her problems, may she R.I.P. SOOOO Damn TALENTED!

Good night LGF!

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2 #FergusonFireside  May 28, 2015 9:07:44pm
3 Charles Johnson  May 28, 2015 9:09:24pm
4 Charles Johnson  May 28, 2015 9:11:52pm
5 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 9:12:29pm

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Seems appropriate.

6 teleskiguy  May 28, 2015 9:17:44pm

MCS = Mesoscale Convective System

7 Zamb  May 28, 2015 9:18:56pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Everything is politicized in the republican party, even the most straightforward things must be a source of contention. Every gesture, every statement by democrats must be part of some broader villainous plot to destroy everything they hold dear. Once you’ve entered that state of mind as a person it’s hard to pull back, unfortunately an entire political party has been consumed.

8 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 9:33:52pm
9 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 9:38:50pm

I wonder what would happen if Obama came out against climate change?

10 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 9:40:20pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

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MCS = Mesoscale Convective System

So that is a solid 400 mile squall line. And it’s been throwing tornados like Lady Bird threw ugly daughters.

(apologies)

11 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 9:42:05pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder what would happen if Obama came out against climate change?

He would be rightfully called a fucking idiot.

12 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 9:44:12pm

re: #11 austin_blue

He would be rightfully called a fucking idiot.

More specifically I meant what the GOP reaction would be.

13 freetoken  May 28, 2015 9:46:22pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Is Fiorina a creationist? I don’t remember her saying anything.

14 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 9:46:41pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

More specifically I meant what the GOP reaction would be.

Oh, that’s different, then.

Inhofe would suck his dick so hard his head would implode.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 9:47:46pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Oh, that’s different, then.

Inhofe would suck his dick so hard his head would implode.

I’ll take Visuals I did not need for $1000, Alex.

16 freetoken  May 28, 2015 9:48:17pm

Kasich is the most surprising creationist.

17 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 28, 2015 9:48:50pm

re: #10 austin_blue

So that is a solid 400 mile squall line. And it’s been throwing tornados like Lady Bird threw ugly daughters.

(apologies)

Fun times. Lived a lot of places, but I don’t think that I ever saw weather like that of South Texas. I went over to Vietnam after and the first time the Monsoon hit I thought, “Welcome the fuck back.”

18 TedStriker  May 28, 2015 9:49:00pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Oh, that’s different, then.

Inhofe would suck his dick so hard his head would implode.

LOL

19 freetoken  May 28, 2015 9:49:11pm

Trump probably is not a creationist but that doesn’t matter because he already knows he could create any universe he wants.

20 freetoken  May 28, 2015 9:52:37pm

To be fair to Kasich, he’s probably only pandering to the creationists. I doubt he really is one, other than the watered down Catholic type. But he knows who butters his bread.

Bush is most likely not one either but, even though he already has enough butter, knows he needs the creationist vote.

Christie likewise.

Rubio believes anything depending on what time of day it is.

Jindal casts out demons - enough said.

Fiorina????

The rest are pretty obvious.

21 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 28, 2015 9:52:55pm

re: #13 freetoken

Is Fiorina a creationist? I don’t remember her saying anything.

22 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 9:53:50pm

I know I was going to let it go but the amount of raw bumbling privilege dripping off these Slate writers is kind of depressing. I mean an unequivocal asshole gets kicked off of Twitter for targeting a black protest leader for abuse. His lawyer straight up admits the intent was doxing. I mean, his lawyer.literally.says.”doxing.” And some white lady not only wonders aloud if Twitter made a mistake, but quotes a full on goddamned swastika tattooed neo-nazi in defense of the offender. Also, she airs the neo-nazi’s concerns about his own warning from Twitter as if his concerns are even remotely valid.

I’m kind of just like, hey Slate, why don’t you fuck off for awhile.

23 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 9:58:28pm

Our friend Higgs Boson’s Mate posted a message on the previous thread that got me to recalling a classic tune by the late great Johnny Hound Dog Taylor. This one’s for you, Higgs, with all due (and I sincerely mean due) respect.

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24 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 10:00:59pm

re: #13 freetoken

Is Fiorina a creationist? I don’t remember her saying anything.

“I’m not a scientist, but…”

Translation: I’m running for the nomination of the Party where over 50% of the primary voters are rubes and boobs who either believe that evolution is a suspect concept or are flat-out Young Earth Creationists. I know they are as ignorant as hell, but I’ve got to pander to them.

Repeat for Climate Change. It’s the brand for the R’s.

25 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 10:02:16pm
26 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:03:10pm

5 Faith Facts about Carly Fiorina

3. She opposes same-sex marriage on religious grounds.

She told Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody she supported Proposition 8 in California (which banned gay marriage in 2008 and was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013).

When she debated Boxer in 2010, she said, “I do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, but also have been consistent and clear that I support civil unions for gay and lesbian couples. She elaborated in an April 2 interview with USA Today: “What’s really at stake here for gay couples is how government bestows benefits. What’s really at stake here for people of religious conviction is their conviction that marriage is a religious institution because only a man and a woman can create life, which is a gift that comes from God.”

4. Fiorina turns to Jesus in difficult times, such as her treatment for breast cancer and the death of her daughter, who dealt with drug addiction.

According to The New York Times, she told Iowa’s Faith and Family Forum, “It was my husband Frank’s and my personal relationship with Jesus Christ that saved us from a desperate sadness.”

Not stated explicitly, but this would seem to put her in the creationist camp.

27 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 28, 2015 10:06:01pm

Shoutycrackers Idiot Put On Teevee Again Because Reasons:

The minute you sit down across from a human dumpster fire like Pam Geller to “debate” her you have already lost. The fact of your presence across from her confirms that her position merits such a debate.

The cure for moral disease-vectors like Pam Geller is to shun them. Never give them your platform. Never grant their madness the dignity of your consideration. Let them rave their tedious lunacy on public transit like every other unbalanced bug-eyed Conspiracerian who know Terrible Secret Behind It!

28 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 10:09:57pm

re: #27 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Shoutycrackers Idiot Put On Teevee Again Because Reasons:

Sadly, your first response in a debate with Atlas Jugs cannot be “You are such a fucking racist asshole, I don’t even know where to begin.”

29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 10:10:26pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Much of the discussion about the banning has turned into a free speech/Big Brother debate, because CCJ and his followers have steered it in that direction. Newcomers to the Chuck Johnson saga don’t know his MO or the background to the “taking out” DeRay remark, so to them the argument seems valid. Even Milo, who was already sympathetic to CCJ, has bought into the free speech/Big Brother angle, chastising Twitter for having a double standard of banning Johnson “for one tweet” while letting others tweet stuff about killing George Zimmerman. It wasn’t just that one tweet by Johnson, of course. It was the latest in a pattern of abuse and near-abuse of the platform.

Milo does not challenge CCJ on the multiple sockpuppets accounts, which are a clear violation of Twitter’s TOS. I bet Amanda Hess skips over it too.

30 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2015 10:10:27pm

re: #27 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Shoutycrackers Idiot Put On Teevee Again Because Reasons:

That’s it. I’m officially done with CNN.

31 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 10:12:49pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

5 Faith Facts about Carly Fiorina

Not stated explicitly, but this would seem to put her in the creationist camp.

I imagine the first thing the vast majority of voters think of when they hear her name is those shitty printers they wasted so much of their hard-earned cash on. Great job, GOP, keep it up.

32 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 10:18:06pm

Aw, hell.

forecast.weather.gov

Just fuck me, Jesus. Hopefully, this squall line will fall apart coming off the Balcones uplift west of town, which is not uncommon. I’ve had enough.

33 teleskiguy  May 28, 2015 10:18:41pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

I’m kind of just like, hey Slate, why don’t you fuck off for awhile.

Me fuckin’ too. There’s been some bullshit, that Amanda Hess piece stunk like yesterday’s diapers, I couldn’t even finish it. She quoted weev?!?

34 teleskiguy  May 28, 2015 10:20:11pm

re: #32 austin_blue

Would you say the last time something like this happened was in 1981, 34 years ago?

35 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 10:21:20pm

Carly Fiorina/Herman Cain 2016 — Shitty Printers & Shitty Pizza USA USA USA!!!!

36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 28, 2015 10:28:06pm

re: #35 De Kolta Chair

Carly Fiorina/Herman Caine 2016 — Shitty Printers & Shitty Pizza USA USA USA!!!!

Donald Trump is a-fixin’ to throw his toupee into the ring. Of course he won’t win the Republican nomination, but then he’s got the ego to Perot up the detail—Fiorina would make the perfect running mate.

37 BeachDem  May 28, 2015 10:28:46pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

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I know I was going to let it go but the amount of raw bumbling privilege dripping off these Slate writers is kind of depressing. I mean an unequivocal asshole gets kicked off of Twitter for targeting a black protest leader for abuse. His lawyer straight up admits the intent was doxing. I mean, his lawyer.literally.says.”doxing.” And some white lady not only wonders aloud if Twitter made a mistake, but quotes a full on goddamned swastika tattooed neo-nazi in defense of the offender. Also, she airs the neo-nazi’s concerns about his own warning from Twitter as if his concerns are even remotely valid.

I’m kind of just like, hey Slate, why don’t you fuck off for awhile.

Also, the friend upchuck was whining about in that Slate article (about how he had his Twitter account shut down as well), Neil O’Brien, sounds like a typical right-wing asshole—Chuck’s protege, perhaps? (He’s older than Chuck, but was still a student at age 29.)

A former California State University, Fresno, student is suing a bunch of people at the school for allegedly infringing upon his First Amendment rights after he confronted some faculty to express his anger over a poem published in a special supplement put out more than two years ago by the school’s student newspaper.

collegemediamatters.com

He’s an anti-immigrant, Tea Party activist.

The university took disciplinary action against O’Brien after he made two unannounced visits to faculty advisers to a Latino student newspaper and questioned them on video about the use of the term “white savage” in the publication. One of the professors filed a complaint, calling O’Brien “hostile” and “belligerent.”…Since enrolling at Fresno State in 2010, O’Brien has made no secret about his opposition to the DREAM Act and professors in the Chicano and Latin American Studies Department.

democraticunderground.com

He has a charming website, where he, in upchuck style, goes on a lengthy vendetta against a fellow student and various others who have wronged him.

therealpedro.com (view at your own risk)

38 De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2015 10:31:03pm

‘NIght gators. Knock yourselves out!

39 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 10:31:42pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Much of the discussion about the banning has turned into a free speech/Big Brother debate, because CCJ and his followers have steered it in that direction. Newcomers to the Chuck Johnson saga don’t know his MO or the background to the “taking out” DeRay remark, so to them the argument seems valid. Even Milo, who was already sympathetic to CCJ, has bought into the free speech/Big Brother angle, chastising Twitter for having a double standard of banning Johnson “for one tweet” while letting others tweet stuff about killing George Zimmerman. It wasn’t just that one tweet by Johnson, of course. It was the latest in a pattern of abuse and near-abuse of the platform.

Milo does not challenge CCJ on the multiple sockpuppets accounts, which are a clear violation of Twitter’s TOS. I bet Amanda Hess skips over it too.

Hess doesn’t really have that excuse though. She was fully aware of why Twitter suspended him, the history, the three previous suspensions, the email telling him it was for “targeted abuse,” all of it. The ONLY thing she didn’t already know what that his lawyer used the word “doxing” to describe his intent yesterday.

To be fair she kind of has a point buried inside all the deliberate obtuseness, false equivalence and credulous airing of ridiculous grievances, that Twitter still sucks at handling abuse. There is a serious case to be made that what mattered here was that Chuck attacked a man with a lot of followers, the leader of a movement, someone who could go on CNN and call him out, and someone that had personally met and is apparently supported with bigwigs in Twitter’s management team.

But what irritates me is that she drives past all that to try and make it about the tech idealist need for transparency in these kind of decisions. We really don’t need transparency, Twitter is right not to talk or share information about its users with the press, even when it bans them. That’s the correct and principled decision. There is no right to the service, if you run afoul of the admins you risk being kicked off, the same as with every other online service in existence, both free and paid for.

And what really gets me is the presentation of the grievance by an absolute malignancy like Auernheimer as if anything he has to say about the warning he received from Twitter should concern civilized people. Oh, he “seems genuinely flummoxed as to how to please the network” you say? Good, fuck him, right in the ear, get him off Twitter too, the guy is a cancer. There’s no level of explaining how not to be an asshole to a guy like that, who’s made his entire persona and career about being as big an asshole as humanly possible.

And deep down I’m pretty sure Hess knows all this, but said “Fuck it, I need clicks.”

Which leads me back to earlier today and goddamned motherfucking snake people.

40 BeachDem  May 28, 2015 10:35:05pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

And what really gets me is the presentation of the grievance by an absolute malignancy like Auernheimer as if anything he has to say about the warning he received from Twitter should concern civilized people. Oh, he “seems genuinely flummoxed as to how to please the network” you say? Good, fuck him, right in the ear, get him off Twitter too, the guy is a cancer. There’s no level of explaining how not to be an asshole to a guy like that, who’s made his entire persona and career about being as big an asshole as humanly possible.

That paragraph is a thing of beauty!

41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 10:39:59pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Strictly from a legal standpoint, as soon as Johnson signed up for Twitter and agreed to the TOS, he was promising to abide by them. He may think now they are unfair and it may be true that Twitter’s application of the rules sucks, but legally speaking he has not one leg to stand on.

Boo hoo hoo.You lost your access because you broke the contract you signed — not just once, but three times! Now you want everyone to blame Twitter, the big evil bluebird of censorship. Suck it up, junior. You fucked up. Admit it.

42 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 10:43:05pm

That squall line is 10 miles west of me. I can hear thunder in the distance…

The NWS just gave an alert for a severe thunderstorm warning for Austin.

I’ll keep you posted unless we lose power.

43 teleskiguy  May 28, 2015 10:45:37pm

re: #42 austin_blue

That squall line is 10 miles west of me. I can hear thunder in the distance…

The NWS just gave an alert for a severe thunderstorm warning for Austin.

I’ll keep you posted unless we lose power.

…

44 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 10:46:08pm

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Adults know the world isn’t fair. The inconsistent application of a rule isn’t an argument against any particular case of enforcing it. The real problem with Twitter’s abuse handling mechanism is that the process is complaint driven, and apparently uninterested in dealing with small numbers. Any prayer of getting action seems to require a critical mass of people stopping and taking the time to convince themselves something is fucked up enough for them to report it. Twitter, in essence, is attempting to moderate its community on the cheap.

45 Kragar  May 28, 2015 10:46:43pm

This is quite possibly the greatest cinematic event of our time:

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“You don’t hassel with the Hoff.”

46 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 10:52:11pm

re: #45 Kragar

47 Nyet  May 28, 2015 10:52:34pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Plus I don’t think they’re being principled about it. They only suspended him after he went after a celebrity, so PR losses. When Spike Lee tried to doxx GZ and doxxed innocent people instead, I don’t think the thought of throwing the bum out crossed the twitter staff’s collective mind even for a second, because, again, bad PR.

48 piratedan  May 28, 2015 10:54:29pm

what I really can’t fathom about all of this bullshit regarding the “rights” of someone like CCJ is how everyone is so fucking accommodating to a fucking troll. He’s a permanent shit stirrer, and an example of a primary motivation why people shun some/all of these awesome tools because when one of these twisted fucks decides to take an interest in fucking with you, regardless of their reasons, they can make your existence and presence in a forum and talking and exchanging ideas with other people a living fucking hell.

Why do we continue to accommodate bullies like this?

How come they have so many fucking apologists? Why the fuck doesn’t Amanda Hess talk to the people that the Ginger Avenger has fucked over in real time? How come he gets a fucking forum to advocate his position, where are the interviews with the people who are busy STILL dealing with this trolls minions and their continued stalking because they get their kicks making other people miserable….

I don’t understand it and I wish to hell that some of these enablers would bleeping check themselves or find something worth writing about because stepping up to bat for a piece of filth like CCJ makes no sense whatsoever.

49 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 10:57:59pm

re: #47 Nyet

Plus I don’t think they’re being principled about it. They only suspended him after he went after a celebrity, so PR losses. When Spike Lee tried to doxx GZ and doxxed innocent people instead, I don’t think the thought of throwing the bum out crossed the twitter staff’s collective mind even for a second, because, again, bad PR.

Yep. Also Lee immediately apologized. But yep.

I think there’s a few things at play here, @deray’s growing clout, his protest movement, connections, and Chuck’s recidivism and absolute lack of anything resembling contrition.

However nothing I see even comes close to resembling true concern over the safety of the average, less powerful twitter user. Which is messed up.

50 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 11:01:37pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Adults know the world isn’t fair. The inconsistent application of a rule isn’t an argument against any particular case of enforcing it. The real problem with Twitter’s abuse handling mechanism is that the process is complaint driven, and apparently uninterested in dealing with small numbers. Any prayer of getting action seems to require a critical mass of people stopping and taking the time to say something is fucked up enough for them to report it. Twitter, in essence, is attempting to moderate its community on the cheap.

Understood. I’m not disputing Twitter’s poor handling of complaints or its poor customer service. Johnson’s banning after the DeRay remark may demonstrate action is biased toward helping “big name” accounts, or it may also demonstrate how a concerted effort by users to report abuse can be effective. Having the whole fracas aired on CNN and other media, and CCJ’s own tantrums about being banned certainly didn’t help matters.

If he had just shut up and taken the banning like a grown up, and waited for things to cool down, he probably could have created a new account and be back in business. Now he’s effectively burned his bridges behind him, and turned his “brand” into a toxic element for Twitter.

51 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 11:05:10pm

Hahaha! Near the end of the interview, Johnson goes on and on about Gamergate and tries to establish his gaming creds by saying he used to play Starcraft and Age of Empires.

Hard core gamer, there.

He also consistently refers to them as “video games,” which I thought strictly applies only to console games and arcade games.

52 BeachDem  May 28, 2015 11:10:28pm

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hahaha! Near the end of the interview, Johnson goes on and on about Gamergate and tries to establish his gaming creds by saying he used to play Starcraft and Age of Empires.

Hard core gamer, there.

That’s like Cruz saying he’s a gamer because he plays Candy Crush.

53 Kragar  May 28, 2015 11:11:38pm

re: #52 BeachDem

That’s like Cruz saying he’s a gamer because he plays Candy Crush.

54 BeachDem  May 28, 2015 11:12:27pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

I’m curious why that photographer, Peter Duke, has stayed so loyal to upchuck. He seems to have an actual business in LA, yet he features that hideous photo of upchuck on his portrait page, and seems to be solidly in the little dweeb’s camp.

Any clue as to why?

55 goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2015 11:20:12pm

re: #54 BeachDem

I’m curious why that photographer, Peter Duke, has stayed so loyal to upchuck. He seems to have an actual business in LA, yet he features that hideous photo of upchuck on his portrait page, and seems to be solidly in the little dweeb’s camp.

Any clue as to why?

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56 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 11:29:39pm

Well, we got lucky. I’ve probably gotten an inch of rain in the last twenty minutes, but the wind field has fallen apart. The squall line is still moving east at 35 to 40 MPH, but the winds at the surface are 10 MPH or less. Most of the bolts are cloud to cloud. I figure an inch and a half of water out of this and no more real damage done in Austin.

As I said, lucky.

57 teleskiguy  May 28, 2015 11:29:50pm
58 austin_blue  May 28, 2015 11:38:36pm

And with that weather report, I am for the rack. Driving up to Arkysaw tomorrow to run logistics for a classical music festival. Seventeen concerts in fourteen days, it’s basically orchestra boot camp.

I’ve been doing this for twenty years. I’ve gotten pretty good at it.

59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2015 11:54:57pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Isn’t he also a conservative of some kind? He probably sees CCJ as an ally somehow, and is willing to deal with the boy on some levels.

I have noticed, however, that he and Chuck are not doing any video interviews after the first two “regularly occurring” attempts. Duke is probably aware that letting Chuck characteristically ramble on does not make for compelling video. The acoustics in Chuck’s home office suck, too.

Chuck also avoids looking at the camera. Throughout the entire Milo interview, he’s either looking at Milo on his computer screen or looking left, right or down. He’s either got to move the camera or get in the habit of looking at his audience as it were once in a while.

60 Kragar  May 29, 2015 12:13:36am

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Isn’t he also a conservative of some kind? He probably sees CCJ as an ally somehow, and is willing to deal with the boy on some levels.

I have noticed, however, that he and Chuck are not doing any video interviews after the first two “regularly occurring” attempts. Duke is probably aware that letting Chuck characteristically ramble on does not make for compelling video. The acoustics in Chuck’s home office suck, too.

Chuck also avoids looking at the camera. Throughout the entire Milo interview, he’s either looking at Milo on his computer screen or looking left, right or down. He’s either got to move the camera or get in the habit of looking at his audience as it were once in a while.

I get the feeling Chuck has a problem with looking another living person in the eye.

61 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 12:13:43am

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Isn’t he also a conservative of some kind? He probably sees CCJ as an ally somehow, and is willing to deal with the boy on some levels.

I have noticed, however, that he and Chuck are not doing any video interviews after the first two “regularly occurring” attempts. Duke is probably aware that letting Chuck characteristically ramble on does not make for compelling video. The acoustics in Chuck’s home office suck, too.

Chuck also avoids looking at the camera. Throughout the entire Milo interview, he’s either looking at Milo on his computer screen or looking left, right or down. He’s either got to move the camera or get in the habit of looking at his audience as it were once in a while.

Google’s Hangouts on Air is just absolute rubbish, for too many reasons to get into. Only clowns use it.

62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 12:26:48am

re: #60 Kragar

I get the feeling Chuck has a problem with looking another living person in the eye.

I wonder if he also avoids eye contact in “real life.” While he was speaking to Milo, I noticed some consistent habits of his. Remarks having to do with rape or sex, or when he’s denying something, for example, are usually accompanied with a nose or cheek scratch. Rejection of ideas or people are usually accompanied by large pushing away or throwing away gestures.

It’s really difficult to watch him and listen to him, because his mannerisms to me are so off-putting. Plus, he has a real problem with rambling off topic and never really answering Milo’s questions concisely and cogently — rather like the way he writes.

63 Kragar  May 29, 2015 12:31:38am

Might have to find a copy of this when it comes out:

…

64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2015 12:46:38am

Oh, look! Somebody downstairs quoting The Daily Caller claims that Emma Sulkowicz “seems to be lying”.

65 Kragar  May 29, 2015 12:53:06am

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Down dinged and rebutted

66 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2015 12:57:10am

Seriously, what’s in the water tonight?

67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2015 12:59:10am

re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seriously, what’s in the water tonight?

The next guy’s karma is -59—for 3 comments!

68 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2015 12:59:50am

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The next guy’s karma is -59—for 3 comments!

It smells.

69 Alyosha  May 29, 2015 1:16:23am

re: #54 BeachDem

I’m curious why that photographer, Peter Duke, has stayed so loyal to upchuck. He seems to have an actual business in LA, yet he features that hideous photo of upchuck on his portrait page, and seems to be solidly in the little dweeb’s camp.

Any clue as to why?

I’d say they simply agree on politics but I’d like to hypothesize that Duke has a terrible secret that Chuck is aware of and, knowing how he will turn on a dime to fuck people over, for monetary gain, sheer power-trippery or just the lols, knows better than to refuse Chuck’s demands.

70 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 1:21:16am

re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seriously, what’s in the water tonight?

Various mind-altering drugs.
Enjoy!
/

71 Kragar  May 29, 2015 1:26:47am

re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seriously, what’s in the water tonight?

Leviathans

…

72 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 1:37:21am

I’ve noticed that one of the things Andrew Auernheimer (Weev) and his supporters like to do is pretend that his anti-semitism stems from his arrest and vacated conviction.

But like everything he says, it’s all self justifying bullshit. From 2008:

I listened for a few more minutes as Weev held forth on the Federal Reserve and about Jews. Unlike Fortuny, he made no attempt to reconcile his trolling with conventional social norms.

73 teleskiguy  May 29, 2015 1:43:07am

weev changed his Twitter avi to some Free UpChuck bullshit (see above comment #72). Yet he tweeted this gutter sewer shit about UpChuck.

74 teleskiguy  May 29, 2015 1:51:48am

Methinks weev is a squishy white supremacist. All bluster, but he’ll support a Jew-loving mongrel baby-making ginger on the internet because reasons.

75 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2015 2:01:59am

“Revolting Mongrel Babies”—dibs on the band name.

76 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 2:06:48am

Twitter has a lot more power than they think they do. They could easily ban everyone that has white genocide, 14/88, etc in their bio and nobody worth mentioning would give a shit. Let Fox News and racist conservatives even try to bitch and talk about “fairness,” see how well that shit sells. Every asshole earnestly talking about the “day of the rope,” ban their ass. Got a swastika or SS lightning bolts in your bio, buh bye. Just set some interns to identifying problem accounts and don’t even bother reviewing appeals by people with multiple criteria hits. Just stop fucking around and clean house.

I bet the stock price climbs significantly when it becomes clear that shit won’t play. Let the rejects bitch and moan, cry about being silenced. Let them try to build their own alternative, it won’t go anywhere. People often like to think about free speech as an absolutism until they actually have to deal with it that way. That’s when they realize that in the real world, face to face reality imposes a set of tangible consequences on speech and conduct that for the most part severely moderate the average person’s behavior in public. There’s no reason to expect online private forums to operate with any less of an expectation of reasonable moderation.

The fact that we’ve come this far and still have idealistic techy libertarian children continually trying to resurrect the concept of the lawless digital frontier has become a pathetic joke. It’s time to make the consequences of online anti-social personality disorder absolutely real and long lasting.

77 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2015 2:12:21am

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

Amen.

I think of Neonazis like I do Neoconfederates. The fucking Nazis lost the goddamn war. If they had won, they’d be banning (and much, much worse) anybody who dared to disagree with them. They have no room to bitch because one particular business declines to give them a platform to spew their hatred. Let them start their own platform and knock themselves out. Of course, then they’d bitch that nobody else used their platform to get abused.

78 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 2:16:53am
79 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 2:26:59am

re: #77 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, it would become one big echo chamber. I like the idea.

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

“…idealistic techy libertarian children continually trying to resurrect the concept of the lawless digital frontier…”

I so want to steal that! What a perfect description of the Snowald types, too.

80 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 2:46:24am

Chinese teacher executed for raping, sexually abusing 26 young girls at his school

Children as young as four attacked over two-year period in Gansu province

scmp.com

I’m not advocating a death penalty, but I wish the US would get more serious about what child abuse does to trusting children who look up to those who teach them and are betrayed. There has to be a line between teachers and students—an absolute line—to preserve a positive student-teacher relationship in a learning environment. I include idiotic female teachers who lure teen boys into their beds, often seen as a “score” among idiotic teen boys—what kind of “lesson” are those boys learning when even their teacher is available for sex?

81 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2015 2:54:17am

re: #43 teleskiguy

My brother and his wife, who live in Dallas, had 4 inches of rain in 4 hours and have 4 feet of water on their driveway. No water has crept into the house yet, but they can’t leave. I’m sort of freaking out.

82 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 3:04:13am

re: #81 urbanmeemaw

I hope they stay safe and don’t have to be evacuated, but they should be prepared just in case. And over 56K people are without power in TX at last count.

83 makeitstop  May 29, 2015 3:10:40am

re: #81 urbanmeemaw

My brother and his wife, who live in Dallas, had 4 inches of rain in 4 hours and have 4 feet of water on their driveway. No water has crept into the house yet, but they can’t leave. I’m sort of freaking out.

I’ve got to fly through Dallas today. I made the mistake of checking the local weather there. Yuck.

84 Timothy Watson  May 29, 2015 3:16:20am

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

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Thankfully, I wasn’t drinking anything when I saw your comment.

85 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 3:19:33am

Flood flood emergency declared from Garland to Allen, Texas until 7:15am CDT - @weatherchannel
end of alert

86 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 3:21:54am

Car explodes near a Shi’ite mosque in Saudi Arabia’s Dammam, killing 2 people, witness says

87 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 3:51:52am
88 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 3:57:33am
89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 4:00:33am

re: #73 teleskiguy

weev changed his Twitter avi to some Free UpChuck bullshit (see above comment #72). Yet he tweeted this gutter sewer shit about UpChuck.

And yet Chuck says they are friends. Srsly?

90 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 4:14:18am

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And this asshole says the thing he missed most in prison was Twitter.

Srsly? Twitter isn’t a freedom. You have no 1st Amendment rights on Twitter to say or do anything you wish.

91 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2015 4:45:48am

Thanks, everyone for your concern. I haven’t seen anything posted for awhile. I’m going to text my brother.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 4:52:55am

Bacon!!!
Pair Charged With Stealing Bacon & Gun From Meat Market

ONA, w.va. (WSAZ) — Two people are charged with stealing four cases of bacon and a gun from Nelson’s Meat Market during a robbery Monday night.

According to magistrate court documents, Travis Kauffer allegedly returned to the business in Ona after he was fired. Cabell County Sheriff’s deputies say Kauffer and another woman, Stephanie Ferris, are accused of breaking into the business through an unlocked door.

Police say Kauffer got into a fight with a man who lives above the business who tried to stop the break-in. Kauffer got away with a rifle and four cases of bacon, according to police, valued at close to 500 dollars.

93 Timothy Watson  May 29, 2015 4:54:59am

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

The cognitive dissonance is strong in @amandahess:

94 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 4:57:45am

re: #93 Timothy Watson

The cognitive dissonance is strong in @amandahess:

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That’s some weapons-grade stupid.

95 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2015 5:00:16am
96 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 5:12:12am

heh.

97 Nyet  May 29, 2015 5:15:00am
Kristiina Ojuland, a former Foreign Minister of Estonia and former member of the European Parliament, voiced her disapproval of the European Commission’s migrant quota plan on her official Facebook page, by calling for a pan-European campaign against admitting any refugees in the EU.
In a post that was more reminiscent of a far-right extremist, than a former Vice President of the European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party (ALDE), Ojuland said that the “white race is threatened” by dark-skinned immigrants (Ojuland actually used an Estonian word “neeger” which is not officially considered offensive in Estonia, but nevertheless becoming socially unacceptable).

“Today yet again I see a fully able young Negro begging for money in Italy, from people who have worked hard to earn a lunch. I think that we should start a pan-European campaign to collect signatures to ensure that not a single so-called refugee gets across the Mediterranean. Enough of this nonsense!” Ojuland, the former high-ranking politician who for years campaigned Estonia to join the EU, wrote.

Her posting has so far gathered over 2,000 “likes”, 500 shares and 300 comments. While many people pointed out her offensive remarks and some called her racist, one would have thought that the former foreign minister would back down, but it didn’t turn out to be so. Instead, Ojuland chose to rigorously defend her statement and even went offensive against the moderate commentators who asked for common sense.

“Stop using a word ‘racist’! As a white person, I feel that the white race is threatened today! Are Estonians also so brain-washed now that they start talking some kind of politically correct bullshit?” Ojuland said.

news.err.ee

98 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2015 5:21:04am
99 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 5:23:00am

I’m so weary of sociopaths expressing their racism, misogyny, fascism and other hate speech on the ‘net without consequence.

But it’s free speech and all I can do is try to be vigilant and try to avoid it unless threats are involved. And those have already started.

100 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 5:32:22am

re: #98 Dr. Matt

Just as I thought. Four people died. Saudi Arabia is primarily Sunni but practices Wahhabism, a conservative form of fundamentalism. I always thought that was to keep the monarchy in power.

pbs.org

101 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 5:36:38am

Moment of the explosion at a mosque in eastern Saudi Arabia during Friday prayers

102 nearly-headless smith25  May 29, 2015 5:38:55am

“But how would you vote on the Civil Rights Act of 1964?”

Rand and the other Republican Libertarians are full of Bullshit.
Civil Liberties and Civil Rights must go hand in hand or neither is protected the way they should be. They don’t want to support Civil Rights because they have always required government action to enforce and protect. But why has it been necessary for the government to work to protect those rights? Yeah, they don’t want to answer that question.

103 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2015 5:39:24am

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

Just as I thought. Four people died. Saudi Arabia is primarily Sunni but practices Wahhabism, a conservative form of fundamentalism. I always thought that was to keep the monarchy in power.

pbs.org

Saudi Arabia is starting to learn the lesson Pakistan did. You teach disruptive techniques and give support to radical groups in order to destabilize places and people you consider “the enemy”. And then those groups decide that *you* are not righteous enough and thus are “the enemy” as well.

104 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 5:42:00am

re: #102 nearly-headless smith25

Because like Upchuck and Weev, they want to be able to say the most egregiously racist, misogynistic, fascistic things possible and reap rewards from it, esp in the “market place”.

I’m not fooled by this reactionary’s bullshit.

105 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 5:46:25am

How about extreme poverty, sweatshop conditions when work is available, and no way to escape it except by migration? This is the bottom of desperation for millions of people.

Myanmar, Bangladesh agree to address ‘root causes’ of migrant exodus, Thailand’s government says - @AFP
end of alert

106 nearly-headless smith25  May 29, 2015 5:47:52am

Teacher in-service meeting about to start. Kill me now.

107 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 5:55:33am

re: #103 Feline Fearless Leader

Salafism/Wahabism is indeed the strain of Islam that the Saudi leaders practice. It also leads to some odd outcomes, such as intending to remake Mecca entirely. They see various shrines and mosques that many others hold as sacred spots - because an imam or caliph preached there as idolatrous so they intend to raze it.

They’ve already remade a significant stretch of Mecca eliminating some of the oldest shrines, and are intending to do away with many of the rest. That too leads to strife as other groups look at their heritage being erased by the Salafist/Wahabi zealots. Oh, and the replacement structures being built? 5-7 star hotels, each with a view of the Kabaa.

So, while Mecca is primarily intended for religious pilgrimages once a year, the hotels sit mostly empty except for the period around Haj. The malls built? Also empty.

There’s a whole lot of hostility being created through the makeover.

Don’t think for a moment that that doesn’t carry over to regional and worldwide Muslim groups, whether you’re talking Shi’a versus Sunni generally, or Wahabi/Salafist versus other Sunni Islamic schools of thought.

108 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 5:56:00am

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

I’m curious why that photographer, Peter Duke, has stayed so loyal to upchuck. He seems to have an actual business in LA, yet he features that hideous photo of upchuck on his portrait page, and seems to be solidly in the little dweeb’s camp.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Leni Riefenstahl had a wonderful sense of dramatic perspective.

(It’s not going Godwin when we’re talking film—we prefer “going Griffith”.)

109 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 5:58:18am

Argh… Slate just posted a screed claiming that Twitter overreacted by banning Chucky. Really? Overreacted? I’ve lost count of how many times he was suspended (revolving door variety). He repeatedly violated the TOS/rules of use. Stalking, harassing, using multiple accts to try and circumvent a ban.

If Twitter can’t ban someone who does that, they can’t ban anyone.

[I see that others have already commented upstream] so guess I’m just adding harmonies to the choir]

110 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 5:58:39am

So today (a day ending in day!) the #TCOT is umgebroyselt about Global Warming WHICH IS A HOAX INVENTED BY AL GOAR!!!!!!!! because those floods in Texas & killer heat wave in India are just LIBRUL EXCUSES FOR TEH COMMUNIST TYRANNYS!!!!!!

111 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 6:00:36am

Mornin Lizards!

Haven’t dropped in lately as I’ve been sick, viral, bacterial, not sure. Got anti-biotics on Wednesday, and some stronger cough syrup. Thought it helped some at first, now not so sure. Still coughing, congested.

Anyway, I see Chuckie c Johnson has finally been banned from Twitter for more than three minutes. Ebola patients, the families of people shot dead by cops, and women, among many others, should sleep a bit easier without UpChuck around to stalk them.

112 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 6:04:57am

Nazi’s here, nazi’s there nazi’s everywhere. Oh, look, the Nazi’s came to my BAR…

113 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 6:06:31am

re: #95 Dr. Matt

When Obama cancels elections and becomes Dictator he’ll make everyone use this special Obama font!!!!1

114 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 6:07:14am
115 Eventual Carrion  May 29, 2015 6:13:34am

re: #112 William Lewis

Nazi’s here, nazi’s there nazi’s everywhere. Oh, look, the Nazi’s came to my BAR…

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Back during WWII, outside of my hometown they built an army camp (Camp Reynolds). It was where soldiers were moved before being shipped to the European theater (how the area got the name Transfer). There were also some German prisoners of war held there. The old timers would tell of the prisoners “escaping” to town. They would stop in at a bar and have a couple beers, the owner would let them finish their beers and then call the MP’s to come get them again. Only ever one report of a successful escape from the camp, all others would just do the “escape”, get a couple beers, back to the camp cycle during their time in Pennsylvania.

116 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 6:18:03am

re: #115 Eventual Carrion

Back during WWII, outside of my hometown they built an army camp (Camp Reynolds). It was where soldiers were moved before being shipped to the European theater (how the area got the name Transfer). There were also some German prisoners of war held there. The old timers would tell of the prisoners “escaping” to town. They would stop in at a bar and have a couple beers, the owner would let them finish their beers and then call the MP’s to come get them again. Only ever one report of a successful escape from the camp, all others would just do the “escape”, get a couple beers, back to the camp cycle during their time in Pennsylvania.

Similar stories from Kentucky. IIRC, Italian trustee-types were loaned out as farm labor. The Ft. Knox cemetery has a row of Italian POW graves.

117 Great White Snark  May 29, 2015 6:19:16am

Anyone remember Wonkette blogger Ken Layne? Interesting write up in the LA Times. Evidence the comments section can make you crazy…

WRITER CHUCKS POLITICAL BLOG TO COVER, IN PRINT ONLY, WEIRD AND WILD OF THE DESERT

“This is prime bighorn sheep territory,” he says, looking beyond the plastic coyote on his dashboard toward the wide-open vistas. “There are no signs of people except for us.”

He points out the dust devils spinning off in the distance. This is his life now.

For six years he ran the absurdist — and vicious — political blog Wonkette. Keith Olbermann called him the worst person in the world, Cindy McCain yelled at him on Twitter, and Sarah Palin tried to put him out of business.

118 Nyet  May 29, 2015 6:23:35am

re: #117 Great White Snark

Link?

119 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 6:27:55am

re: #102 nearly-headless smith25

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“But how would you vote on the Civil Rights Act of 1964?”

Rand and the other Republican Libertarians are full of Bullshit.
Civil Liberties and Civil Rights must go hand in hand or neither is protected the way they should be. They don’t want to support Civil Rights because they have always required government action to enforce and protect. But why has it been necessary for the government to work to protect those rights? Yeah, they don’t want to answer that question.

Damned good post. And you’re right. They don’t support civil rights because those rights require government action to both enforce and protect. And you’re right, they can’t answer that question. Rand is nothing but a showboating fraud.

120 Great White Snark  May 29, 2015 6:28:12am

re: #118 Nyet

My bad. That should do it or use google to peek over the pay wall.

121 Nyet  May 29, 2015 6:29:37am

re: #120 Great White Snark

Spasibo.

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 6:38:52am

Poor UpChuck has a shiny new post up about all the people saying mean and threatening things to/about him on twitter.
(And, as usual, his byline but written in third person.)

donotlink.com

123 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 6:41:21am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Poor UpChuck has a shiny new post up about all the people saying mean and threatening things to/about him on twitter.
(And, as usual, his byline but written in third person.)

donotlink.com

Wonder how long before he has to get a real job like the rest of us.
e_e

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 6:41:47am
125 rhuarc  May 29, 2015 6:43:18am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

How many of those examples that he cited did he personally do with his own Twitter account? Self-recognition is hard with that bumbling idiot.

126 CuriousLurker  May 29, 2015 6:44:43am

re: #120 Great White Snark

My bad. That should do it or use google to peek over the pay wall.

Once I pass my 5 article limit for the month at the LA Times, I just turn off javascript. It’s been working fine so far.

127 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 6:45:29am

I see “GotNewsResearch” twitter acct is still up, but no tweets in 9 hs.

Upchuck must be pissed about his lazy “researcher”, “Shannon Knutson”, allegedly of Atlanta, who probably uses a fake name.

128 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 6:49:36am

re: #123 Varek Raith

Funny, but when I go directly to the site, I’m still getting the “server default page”.

129 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 6:52:09am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, check out DFW:

130 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 7:06:06am

re: #37 BeachDem

I finally got around to reading that article on Slate and jeez. I commented there:

I wonder if Amanda would be so forgiving if it were her address and phone number that were doxxed by Johnson along with his usual vitriol towards those he doxxes. I wonder how Amanda would like people showing up at her house because of him? (Doxxing, btw, is against Twitter’s Terms of Service.) I wonder if Amanda would be so forgiving if he alleged that it was she who was a fake rape victim - as he did with some unknown woman (who is suing him) because he claimed she was someone she wasn’t, got her pics from Facebook or Instragram and then doxxed the wrong person.

He is a racist as well as a misogynist because he always targets women and people of color. Amanda quotes a white supremacist in her article…which makes me wonder if she is one as well. Seriously, Slate, you’re actively seeking the Stormfront losers acceptance now?

Amanda, it is called Terms of Service - I don’t doubt that Slate has that same thing. When you violate the Terms of Service, you lose the privilege to continue to be a part of that community.

I can only guess that Amanda never saw how vile and abusive Johnson was and that he considered his brand of “journalism” successful by how many scalps he got, and he lied about almost everything which made those scalps a bunch of horse-pucky to begin with.

Might want to do a little research on Chuck before you come to his defense.

131 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:08:12am

re: #130 WhatEVs

I finally got around to reading that article on Slate and jeez. I commented there:

Nice but Slate and Amanda won’t care. All that matters is the clicks. Upchuck only got the hammer because he threatened a much bigger source of clicks for Twitter than he would ever bring in. If the reverse were true, nothing would be different from a week ago.

132 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 7:08:47am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s a bunch of rain. We’re three trillion gallons behind here in CA and that would be less than a tenth of the water that’s already fallen on Texas. Dang.

133 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 7:10:09am

re: #130 WhatEVs

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134 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 7:22:43am

Heh. Dana Loesch is ripping on Fox for HURR HURR INCORRECT USE OF FIREARMS NOMENCLATURE!!!!! LIBTARDS!!!!!

135 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 7:26:41am

Kingsville, Texas, where I spent some time long ago, is looking at a high today of 91° accompanied by heavy thunderstorms. Oh, damn. It’s flat as hell down there and after a certain point the water just starts getting deeper. One year the flooding was so bad on base that they had to break out inflatable boats so that we could get from our barracks to the chow hall or work.

Yes, work. The Navy believed that idle sailors were the devil’s toolkit and we had a whole hangar full of stuff that could use a coat of fresh paint - after being taken down to bare metal and primed. Ah, youth!

136 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:29:09am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeash. All that rain. Makes me put on my Stevie Ray Vaughan. Texas Flood and all the rest. Pure clean electric blues by a master of the strat.

Saw him perform on that tour - December 11, 1985. Only time he played my home town of Eau Claire Wi and that little University gym wasn’t big enough for the sound he made. ISTR having second or third row tickets and my ears hurt at the memory :)

137 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 7:29:25am

re: #134 Lord Of The Pies

Heh. Dana Loesch is ripping on Fox for HURR HURR INCORRECT USE OF FIREARMS NOMENCLATURE!!!!! LIBTARDS!!!!!

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Not going deep into this gunfucker thing, but both Loesch and Fox are using terms sloppily. Assault rifles are fully automatic in military usage. Assault weapons can be semi-auto as defined by the lapsed Assault Weapons Ban. OTOH, fuck Loesch and Fox for disingenuous bullshitters.

138 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2015 7:30:38am

re: #134 Lord Of The Pies

Fully automatic weapons are not “banned”. Anyone with the time and money can purchase the NFA Tax Stamp and own a fully automatic weapon.

139 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 7:32:00am

re: #134 Lord Of The Pies

Now that’s just silly as hell. Some of our opponents in Vietnam were still carrying the SKS. The SKS is a semi-automatic shoulder weapon that uses a fixed magazine rather than a clip. Pretty old tech, but they seemed to be able to assault us pretty well with them.

140 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:32:58am

re: #135 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Yes, work. The Navy believed that idle sailors were the devil’s toolkit and we had a whole hangar full of stuff that could use a coat of fresh paint - after being taken down to bare metal and primed. Ah, youth!

Hah! Having once been an NCO of Infantry, I agree with those long ago petty officers. There is nothing worse than troopies with nothing to do. I’d have probably done a nice long road march followed but a very thorough cleaning (and inspection :D ) of the now water logged weapons but the intent is the same. At least once the kevlar pot came online the helmet wasn’t a lightning magnet :LOL:

141 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 7:35:35am

re: #140 William Lewis

Hah! Having once been an NCO of Infantry, I agree with those long ago petty officers. There is nothing worse that troopies with nothing to do. I’d have probably done a nice long road march followed but a very thorough cleaning (and inspection :D ) of the now water logged weapons but the intent is the same. At least once the kevlar pot came online the helmet wasn’t a lightning magnet :LOL:

But it’s still not kosher for high-voltage work, because of the rivets. And it’s useless for making Liberated Chicken stew.

142 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:36:15am

re: #139 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Now that’s just silly as hell. Some of our opponents in Vietnam were still carrying the SKS. The SKS is a semi-automatic shoulder weapon that uses a fixed magazine rather than a clip. Pretty old tech, but they seemed to be able to assault us pretty well with them.

I’ve argued, sometimes more seriously than others, that the SKS was the best long arm on either side during the American War (as the Vietnamese refer to events from 65 to 75).

143 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:37:08am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

But it’s still not kosher for high-voltage work, because of the rivets. And it’s useless for making Liberated Chicken stew.

Or shaving. We really hated losing that wash bin that we could carry on our heads.

144 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 7:42:54am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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31 cubic miles!

146 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 7:45:46am

re: #138 Dr. Matt

Fully automatic weapons are not “banned”. Anyone with the time and money can purchase the NFA Tax Stamp and own a fully automatic weapon.

Only serialized receivers registered under the NFA before the 1986 ban.

147 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 7:46:35am

“I’ve said that playing the blues is like having to be black twice. Stevie Ray Vaughan missed on both counts, but I never noticed.” - B.B. King

…

148 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 7:49:50am

re: #142 William Lewis

I’ve argued, sometimes more seriously than others, that the SKS was the best long arm on either side during the American War (as the Vietnamese refer to events from 65 to 75).

I had one that I nearly went to the trouble to keep as a battlefield trophy. It was a tack driver. Within its range it was as accurate over open sights as the M14, and that’s saying something.

149 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 7:50:16am

re: #145 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEMES OF THE DAY (CLIMATE DENIALIST CATEGORY)==>

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He’ll be the first one bitching when rising sea levels effect him.

150 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:50:20am

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

Only serialized receivers registered under the NFA before the 1986 ban.

Which has had the effect of turning those weapons into money printing machines. Be a much better thing to kill the Hughes amendment and go back to the status quo anti-1985.

151 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 7:50:25am

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

Only serialized receivers registered under the NFA before the 1986 ban.

Which means if you can find one legally transferable to you, it will be very expensive. Most run over $20K.

152 Lidane  May 29, 2015 7:51:18am
153 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 7:52:04am

re: #152 Lidane

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Witchcraft of course.

154 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 7:53:12am

Ouch…

Texas Floods of 2015 indeed.

The statue can be seen in it’s normal context here:
en.wikipedia.org

155 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 7:53:34am

re: #152 Lidane

Fuck me. That’s jumping the shark squared.

156 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 7:54:39am

re: #150 William Lewis

Which has had the effect of turning those weapons into money printing machines. Be a much better thing to kill the Hughes amendment and go back to the status quo anti-1985.

I don’t have a problem with the Hughes amendment. It makes the receivers too valuable to use in crime. Never heard of a verified case of an NFA stamped machine gun used to kill except for that idiot at the gun range who gave that little girl and Uzi.

157 Dave In Austin  May 29, 2015 7:55:35am

re: #152 Lidane

…

158 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 7:57:17am

re: #157 Dave In Austin

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159 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 7:58:45am

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Which means if you can find one legally transferable to you, it will be very expensive. Most run over $20K.

And if you fire it, the Ma Deuce slurps up $1200/minute.

160 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 7:59:45am

re: #154 William Lewis

It’s true. SRV could walk on water (and play some seriously awesome tunes). That’s the proof!

161 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 7:59:55am

re: #133 lawhawk

Thank you for that. I used that in my ongoing discussion at Slate.

162 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 8:00:56am

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

I don’t have a problem with the Hughes amendment. It makes the receivers too valuable to use in crime. Never heard of a verified case of an NFA stamped machine gun used to kill except for that idiot at the gun range who gave that little girl and Uzi.

There were two such—a kid at a sheriff’s fund raiser.

163 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 8:01:13am

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

I don’t have a problem with the Hughes amendment. It makes the receivers too valuable to use in crime. Never heard of a verified case of an NFA stamped machine gun used to kill except for that idiot at the gun range who gave that little girl and Uzi.

Didn’t happen before the amendment either. There were, IIRC, two killings with NFA weapons prior to the amendment. Once was a self-defense case and the other was a rouge cop. All this does is make them even more enticing by giving them an extra aura and risks destroying historically important artifacts like the StG-44 turned into a “gun buyback” last year. (Quotes because how can the government buy back something they never owned?)

164 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 8:05:46am

The whole global warming denialism thing bugs me. Mostly because people - right wingers - point to what’s going on in their backyard, or their part of the US as proof that global warming is bunk.

Umm, what part of global in global warming do you not get? Global temps are rising, so even if temps in your slice of heaven in NY or Texas or Arkansas isn’t increasing over time, or even if you had a really bad winter, that isn’t proof that global warming is wrong.

Heck, proof that the Great Lakes region had more snow than usual isn’t proof of global warming being BS; in fact it can suggest the opposite because warmer temperatures means that the lakes wont freeze over as often, allowing those blasts of Arctic air to sweep across the lakes and dump prodigious amounts of snow in the snow belts on the downwind side (Tug Hill Plateau, Buffalo, Syracuse, etc.) It’s only when the temps get sufficiently cold that the lakes will freeze over. And for each example of warmer weather in the lower 48, I can point back at the Arctic and Alaska where there have been record heat over the past few winters (and into spring/summer).

But remember, it’s global temperatures. And they are undeniably increasing. CO2 levels are increasing and have reached record proportions - and still increasing.

So, the only folks who are believing in BS and mysticism are those who are peddling that global warming is bs.

165 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 8:07:13am

Jesuschrist, this was a conspiracy for rape.

Darren Sharper admits drugging women for rape in federal guilty plea in New Orleans court

theneworleansadvocate.com

The nine-count state indictment also names ex-Morton’s steakhouse waiter Erik Nunez and former St. Bernard Parish sheriff’s deputy Brandon Licciardi in a variety of crimes. It accuses all three men of aggravated rape, a crime that carries life imprisonment upon a conviction.

166 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:07:39am

Wingnuts are not liking this new meme I gave them==>

167 Timothy Watson  May 29, 2015 8:08:04am

re: #152 Lidane

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“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!”

168 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:09:01am

re: #166 Lord Of The Pies

Wingnuts are not liking this new meme I gave them==>

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They hate it when their precious memes get busted.

169 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:10:43am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

They hate it when their precious memes get busted.

Well they were spamming this all over:

But that’s just an order kiosk, not a food prep machine.
Food prep machines require a whole bunch of maintenance or else they will
1. Break down
2. Serve e coli

170 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 8:12:43am

Automation is expensive.
Silly wingnuts are silly.

171 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:12:44am

re: #169 Lord Of The Pies

Well they were spamming this all over:

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But that’s just an order kiosk, not a food prep machine.
Food prep machines require a whole bunch of maintenance or else they will
1. Break down
2. Serve e coli

Yeah I know. Really these people are so goddamned stupid. And the other thing is these people are the people who bitch the most when a person gets their order messed up. They’re not going to be happy at all when the computer inevitably fucks things up. They could be reasonable and understand why MCD’s workers want a decent wage but no they have to be corporate lackey dicks.

172 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:13:52am

re: #170 Varek Raith

Automation is expensive.
Silly wingnuts are silly.

Greedy is more like it. I don’t want to pay five cents more so the guy taking my burger can get paid more. It’s socialism.//// Waaaah but I don’t care if McD’s executives give themselves a bonus more than the average McD’s worker will make in a lifetime because that’s freedom and capitalism.//

173 BigPapa  May 29, 2015 8:14:59am

re: #169 Lord Of The Pies

Wow, look at all those expensive machines made by poor wage people in other countries, that break, and take expensive software to make work. And there’s still people in the background.

The message is ‘work for shit or don’t work at all. ’ Because liberty and freedom.

174 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 8:15:02am

re: #169 Lord Of The Pies

Well they were spamming this all over:

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But that’s just an order kiosk, not a food prep machine.
Food prep machines require a whole bunch of maintenance or else they will
1. Break down
2. Serve e coli

Or the deep fryer burns the restaurant down.

175 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 8:15:22am
176 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 8:15:56am

re: #174 Justanotherhuman

Or the deep fryer burns the restaurant down.

Hey, I had nothing to do with any malware-infected deep fryers.
Or something.

177 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:16:14am

My friend made a good point on Memorial Day. Wingnuts are constantly saying to people making minium wage “Why should we pay you more when X(usually military members) don’t make that much” when the answer should be “We should be paying both better.”

178 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:16:39am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and Robert Mendenez’s heads just exploded.

179 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 8:17:05am

re: #164 lawhawk

You have to remember that a large number of people, especially rural people, have never left their own county, let alone state or country. Global is a concept they can’t understand and, frankly, don’t care about.

180 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 8:17:16am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Order kiosks are popping up all over, but let’s forget that the order kiosk needs regular servicing and cleaning. A worker at the same establishment can not only take orders, but do other work in the establishment (clean, restock, food prep, address customer issues, work as cashier, etc.). The kiosk just sits there and awaits orders.

So, instead of paying thousands for a kiosk, plus the ongoing service contracts, you can pay a living wage to a person that can multitask.

Oh, and the screed about how people complaining about living wages shouldn’t get them because military servicemembers are getting paid crap ignore the point - those service members should be getting paid a lot more too. It isn’t an either or. Both should have living wages, and the right wing ignores that all too salient point.

181 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:17:17am

re: #170 Varek Raith

Automation is expensive.
Silly wingnuts are silly.

They’re saying HURR HURR HIGH-PAID SERVICE TECH DOESN’T HAVE TO BE ONSITE 24/7!!!!!

They totally miss the point that the service tech is not an employee of the fast-food franchise, he (or she) is an employee or contractor of the machine manufacturer and his/her salary is factored into the lease agreement the franchise owner pays for the use of the expensive machine.

182 Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2015 8:17:22am

re: #63 Kragar

Might have to find a copy of this when it comes out:

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Video

I’m not sure I enjoyed the anime per se. Really disturbing work. But I watched the whole thing through.

Won’t be able to handle a live version. Too realistic. Watching 10 metre high monsters eat people alive just isn’t for me.

183 BigPapa  May 29, 2015 8:19:11am

WTF Amanda Hess at Slate:
Why Did Twitter Ban Chuck C. Johnson?

She doesn’t seem to know or answer that question.

Perhaps Twitter’s definition of harassment now includes the act of targeting public figures for mean-spirited, quasi-journalistic investigations, but that strikes me as a pretty dangerous standard.

Maybe she should have asked Charles Johnson at LGF.

184 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 8:20:04am

re: #173 BigPapa

Wow, look at all those expensive machines made by poor wage people in other countries, that break, and take expensive software to make work. And there’s still people in the background.

The message is ‘work for shit or don’t work at all. ’ Because liberty and freedom.

Automation is a good thing, if it is controlled. It makes work a ‘scarce good’ which can be redistributed through labor law. I’m up for a 20/hr workweek that lets everybody raise their kids and become gardeners and poets in their spare time. We might settle on this globally after a few centuries of bloodshed.

185 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 8:20:06am

Got myself a couple of retweets from Imani.

186 Varek Raith  May 29, 2015 8:20:30am

re: #182 Romantic Heretic

I’m not sure I enjoyed the anime per se. Really disturbing work. But I watched the whole thing through.

Won’t be able to handle a live version. Too realistic. Watching 10 metre high monsters eat people alive just isn’t for me.

Mikasa FTW!

187 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 8:21:31am

re: #183 BigPapa

WTF Amanda Hess at Slate:
Why Did Twitter Ban Chuck C. Johnson?

She doesn’t seem to know or answer that question.

Maybe she should have asked Charles Johnson at LGF.

CCJ harassed private figures as well.

188 Lidane  May 29, 2015 8:21:45am
189 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:22:23am

re: #180 lawhawk

Order kiosks are popping up all over, but let’s forget that the order kiosk needs regular servicing and cleaning. A worker at the same establishment can not only take orders, but do other work in the establishment (clean, restock, food prep, address customer issues, work as cashier, etc.). The kiosk just sits there and awaits orders.

So, instead of paying thousands for a kiosk, plus the ongoing service contracts, you can pay a living wage to a person that can multitask.

Oh, and the screed about how people complaining about living wages shouldn’t get them because military servicemembers are getting paid crap ignore the point - those service members should be getting paid a lot more too. It isn’t an either or. Both should have living wages, and the right wing ignores that all too salient point.

Great points. A person can do so much more than a machine. What wingnuts refuse to acknowledge is if you pay people decently and give them decent benefits, they’re going to be more productive. Wingnuts seem hellbent on creating a permanent underclass which shows their loyalty to a more feudal/oligarchical based society than capitalist one.

190 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:22:46am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Automation is a good thing, if it is controlled. It makes work a ‘scarce good’ which can be redistributed through labor law. I’m up for a 20/hr workweek that lets everybody raise their kids and become gardeners and poets in their spare time. We might settle on this globally after a few centuries of bloodshed.

The problem with automation is that it is frequently used to replace workers, not enhance them and the benefit is then funneled to the upper levels.

191 RealityBasedSteve  May 29, 2015 8:22:55am

Well I’m off to work. Going to try and reorganize some of the displays, make room for a bit more stuff. I’ve got a couple of ideas that I think will work. I’m still getting a “feel” for what’s needed, but I’ve been given pretty much carte blanche to do what I feel like needs to be done.

One down side, I don’t get to dive as much, since I’m usually going to be in the shop on Saturdays. OTOH, I get to dive for free when I do go out, so it balances out.

Have a great day,

RBS

192 BigPapa  May 29, 2015 8:23:25am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Yeah, nothing against automation. It’s supposed to improve our lives, not fuck those uppity poors who want 20 hour work weeks to read gardening poetry.

(snicker)

193 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:23:36am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Great points. A person can do so much more than a machine. What wingnuts refuse to acknowledge is if you pay people decently and give them decent benefits, they’re going to be more productive. Wingnuts seem hellbent on creating a permanent underclass which shows their loyalty to a more feudal/oligarchical based society than capitalist one.

194 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:24:01am

re: #188 Lidane

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Well no shit. The real problem though is that they’re bringing guns even though no one at the mosque has threatened them. They’re looking for trouble. You don’t need guns for a drawing contest. Unless your aim is to intimidate which is exactly what this bullshit is.

195 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 8:25:03am

re: #190 Lord Of The Pies

The problem with automation is that it is frequently used to replace workers, not enhance them and the benefit is then funneled to the upper levels.

That’s the part we have to work on.

The assembly plant where I worked my way through school had 22,000 workers at peak. Last I looked, it had just over 6,000 and GE was selling it to a foreign buyer.

196 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:25:33am

re: #193 Lord Of The Pies

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Exactly, if you really value the people who handle your food, clean homes, etc the way right wingers do then you just suck as a person and you really need to find the next time machine back to the Dark Ages so you can go pledge your loyalty to your lord.

197 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 8:26:12am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Automation is a good thing, if it is controlled. It makes work a ‘scarce good’ which can be redistributed through labor law. I’m up for a 20/hr workweek that lets everybody raise their kids and become gardeners and poets in their spare time. We might settle on this globally after a few centuries of bloodshed.

I believe that was one of the things Gene Roddenberry believe in for his utopia called “The Federation”. After all, ISTR they weren’t sure how to handle money in San Francisco of 1986… /////

198 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 8:27:04am

re: #152 Lidane

“If God is judging Texas, it’s because of the witchcraft and sodomy that we’ve allowed to run rampant,” Rebecca said

Running rampant you say? Sounds worth checking out.

//

199 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 8:27:07am
200 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:27:28am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Exactly, if you really value the people who handle your food, clean homes, etc the way right wingers do then you just suck as a person and you really need to find the next time machine back to the Dark Ages so you can go pledge your loyalty to your lord.

HURR HURR WHO CARES WHAT THEY “DESERVE” THERE UNSKILLED LABOR IS NOT WORTH MOAR THEN TEH JOB CREATERS FEEL LIKE PAYING THEM!!!!! MINIMUMWAGE KILLS JERBZ!!!!

201 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 8:27:52am

re: #190 Lord Of The Pies

That’s where regulation needs to come in and keep the bosses in their place.

What? Why, yes, I’m a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and the International Workers of the World, why do you ask? /////

202 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 8:27:54am

!O.o!

203 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 8:28:04am

re: #198 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This god sounds like a real asshole if he’s busy killing people who had nothing to do with it.

204 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 8:28:44am

re: #197 William Lewis

I believe that was one of the things Gene Roddenberry believe in for his utopia called “The Federation”. After all, ISTR they weren’t sure how to handle money in San Francisco of 1986… /////

It was a big part of Bellamy’s Looking Backward, A socialist utopian novel of the 1800’s that was popular enough to trigger “Bellamy Clubs” in college.

en.wikipedia.org

205 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:30:06am

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

!O.o!

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Totally misses the point, what a shock. Wonder if he would be so generous to a Stalinist.

206 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:32:11am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Totally misses the point, what a shock. Wonder if he would be so generous to a Stalinist.

Or a Muslim.

207 goddamnedfrank  May 29, 2015 8:33:28am
208 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:33:42am

re: #206 Lord Of The Pies

Or a Muslim.

or a Dawkins style atheist. Yes, Neo-Nazis do have a right of free speech but that’s not the point. Chucky has been legitimizing the points of Nazis and I believe this Nazi in particular described crediting the OKC bombing to Muslims as “taking away a good man’s high score” or some crap like that.

209 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:35:20am

People show time and time again that they do not understand what free speech actually is. Free speech has never meant that I have to like what you say and can’t criticize it.

210 dharmamark  May 29, 2015 8:38:08am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

People show time and time again that they do not understand what free speech actually is. Free speech has never meant that I have to like what you say and can’t criticize it.

Or provide you a forum…

211 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:39:40am

re: #210 dharmamark

Or provide you a forum…

Or your own TV show.

212 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:39:43am

re: #210 dharmamark

Or provide you a forum…

Exactly. And boycotting hate speech is a part of free speech too. That’s what certain “civil libertarians” don’t get. I have every right ot boycott or let it be known I find certain forms of speech distasteful.

213 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2015 8:40:13am

re: #210 dharmamark

Or provide you a forum…

Yup. If Twitter wants to ban the letters “t” and “i”, it has the right to do so.

214 Dave In Austin  May 29, 2015 8:42:28am
215 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 8:42:48am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

People show time and time again that they do not understand what free speech actually is. Free speech has never meant that I have to like what you say and can’t criticize it.

That’s why that XKCD cartoon is so fucking valuable. It’s blunt, simple & even a wingnut can understand it.

xkcd.com

216 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:44:41am

re: #215 William Lewis

That’s why that XKCD cartoon is so fucking valuable. It’s blunt, simple & even a wingnut can understand it.

xkcd.com

I like that. Simple but really explains it quite well.

217 allegro  May 29, 2015 8:47:12am

Dear Weather Goddess,

It would be real cool if you’d stop raining on us for a bit. We’d sure appreciate it.

Thxbai.

Love,
Me

218 Iwouldprefernotto  May 29, 2015 8:47:45am

We need more of this

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
Compassion is not weakness and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism. -Hubert Humphrey, US Vice President (27 May 1911-1978)

219 Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2015 8:48:37am

re: #190 Lord Of The Pies

The problem with automation is that it is frequently used to replace workers, not enhance them and the benefit is then funneled to the upper levels.

After all the fun created by the Industrial Revolution you would think that we would have handled the second one with a bit more skill.

But nooooo. History is so last year.

220 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:50:55am

re: #218 Iwouldprefernotto

We need more of this

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
Compassion is not weakness and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism. -Hubert Humphrey, US Vice President (27 May 1911-1978)

There’s a reason why my username is in honor of him. He was one of the first prominent Democrats to really speak up for Civil Rights. He would have made a fine president.

221 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 8:53:25am

re: #219 Romantic Heretic

After all the fun created by the Industrial Revolution you would think that we would have handled the second one with a bit more skill.

But nooooo. History is so last year.

The “Momentum Burger Machine” has been available for lease since 2012 but their equipment is not actually being used in real life, they just haul it out for a demo every now and then and wingnuts are all HURR HURR MINIMUMWAGE WORTHLESS UNSKILLEDS HEAR IS UR REPLACEMENT!!! HAHAHA!!!!!

Their web site is down to one page, they have even removed the product descriptions from their site.

222 No Country For Old Haters  May 29, 2015 8:53:37am

re: #207 goddamnedfrank

223 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 8:54:08am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Back in the ’60s, the bosses would tell us office workers that computerizing would do a lot of the work we did manually and save on paper, too. They didn’t tell us our skills would fall by the wayside and some of us found out the hard way we were on our own when it came to acquiring new ones over the years. I think the ’80s was the last time I got any kind of in-house training on skills we were expected to have for new applications and software we had to learn to do a job.

Meawhile, having learned arithmetic pretty well as a kid, I can still estimate what I’m going to be spending at a store before it’s rung up, as well as figure out my change before the computer does, if I’m paying in cash. And how many people, once finished w/school, pick up any kind of serious book or literature? We’ve turned kids into visual consumers of all kinds of “stuff”, and there’s that. Few kids even go to the library, now that so many homes have computers, but even computers can’t match books for research.

I knew when the Munchkin could operate a computer before he was 3 and plays games on an Xbox now like a pro, that machines were going to be much easier to use for each generation, but without retention of what used to be the basics, reading, writing and a lot of arithmetic fundamentals. Sure, I used a lot of computers over the last 40 yrs, but considered them a tool, not the basis of my education. Cursive writing is no longer taught and as a result, how many signatures are legible? In fact, my g-son’s girlfriend, who’s 19, can’t even read cursive. She did graduate from HS and comes from a family w/an electrical engineer dad who even pays her condo rent, but even my g-son, who’s only 5 yrs older, said she knew very little about anything.

Tell me I’m wrong, but around here, seeing the average worker w/a HS education, I’m not. This can’t ever lead to an egalitarian society.

224 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 8:54:57am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

There’s a reason why my username is in honor of him. He was one of the first prominent Democrats to really speak up for Civil Rights. He would have made a fine president.

I’ve never thought so - he wasn’t cutthroat enough. Much like Gerald Ford he was essentially too good of a person to be a president. Even Obama has a certain edge that HHH lacked and that’s why he’s been able to do what he had to.

225 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 8:56:20am

re: #224 William Lewis

I’ve never thought so - he wasn’t cutthroat enough. Much like Gerald Ford he was essentially too good of a person to be a president. Even Obama has a certain edge that HHH lacked and that’s why he’s been able to do what he had to.

A fair point. That’s definitely how I feel about McGovern. He really deserves to go down in history better than the guy who got landslided by Nixon.

226 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 8:57:13am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

People show time and time again that they do not understand what free speech actually is. Free speech has never meant that I have to like what you say and can’t criticize it.

Or that it must be consequence free.

Chuck is dealing with the consequences.

227 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:01:37am

re: #226 WhatEVs

Or that it must be consequence free.

Chuck is dealing with the consequences.

Right you can say whatever the hell you want and nothing can happen.

228 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:06:33am

Ugh. Seriously?

229 Dave In Austin  May 29, 2015 9:08:39am

re: #228 WhatEVs

We are fucking DOOMED…….

230 ObserverArt  May 29, 2015 9:09:19am

Hey all!

This guy again! He sent me two yesterday and this one today. And all are begging for money. I’m about ready to label him a spammer and then hit the opt-out unsubscribe at the bottom. Then I think, what a better way to see what the fool is up to. As I said, I never agreed to be on any GOP mail list. I’m sure one of the Ohio GOPers I email added me to a list even though I never wanted to get email from any of them.

It’s a long one…so be sure to click on image to open to a new tab and then increase to full size with the magnifying glass in that tab.

Nutty Ricky complaining about Nutty Rand…but it is all Obama and Hillary’s fault.
231 No Country For Old Haters  May 29, 2015 9:09:54am

re: #229 Dave In Austin

We are fucking DOOMED…….

It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect. Totally clueless people think they’re experts.

232 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 9:10:04am

re: #166 Lord Of The Pies

Wingnuts are not liking this new meme I gave them==>

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The part that sticks out to me is the fact that machines are leased. The wingnuts have made it sound as though this was a one-time expense: Buy the machine, set it up, and boom, three workers are jobless. But in reality, it’s a constant expense, one that is going to eat into your business regardless of whether you’re doing awesome business or if you’re scraping by. Which is why even the major franchises will hesitate to put these machines in their shops. Add in all the red tape, like the service technician, and it’s just more trouble than it’s likely to be worth.

BUT (and there’s always a but), at the same time, I understand the purpose of the lease, which is to avoid a lot of the trouble that comes with just selling these babies. Last thing you want is to sell a dozen, and then have the new owners spreading bad word a month or so later because they didn’t RTFM and now they’re getting shut down by the local health inspector for serving up e. coli by the truckload to their customers.

233 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:11:21am

I see @GotNewsResearch is still baiting Deray.

234 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:12:10am

re: #230 ObserverArt

Hey all!

This guy again! He sent me two yesterday and this one today. And all are begging for money. I’m about ready to label him a spammer and then hit the opt-out unsubscribe at the bottom. Then I think, what a better way to see what the fool is up to. As I said, I never agreed to be on any GOP mail list. I’m sure one of the Ohio GOPers I email added me to a list even though I never wanted to get email from any of them.

It’s a long one…so be sure to click on image to open to a new tab and then increase to full size with the magnifying glass in that tab.

[Embedded content]

You should forward some porn to them. Who knows. Rick may lighten up.

235 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:12:12am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

A fair point. That’s definitely how I feel about McGovern. He really deserves to go down in history better than the guy who got landslided by Nixon.

Yeah, George McGovern was an odd case. Another one like Ford in many ways yet his time leading in B-24s taught him that even if you didn’t want to, sometimes you had to grab for the brass ring for the good of the rest of us. Pity it cost his family so terribly much.

236 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:12:48am

re: #232 Targetpractice

The part that sticks out to me is the fact that machines are leased. The wingnuts have made it sound as though this was a one-time expense: Buy the machine, set it up, and boom, three workers are jobless. But in reality, it’s a constant expense, one that is going to eat into your business regardless of whether you’re doing awesome business or if you’re scraping by. Which is why even the major franchises will hesitate to put these machines in their shops. Add in all the red tape, like the service technician, and it’s just more trouble than it’s likely to be worth.

BUT (and there’s always a but), at the same time, I understand the purpose of the lease, which is to avoid a lot of the trouble that comes with just selling these babies. Last thing you want is to sell a dozen, and then have the new owners spreading bad word a month or so later because they didn’t RTFM and now they’re getting shut down by the local health inspector for serving up e. coli by the truckload to their customers.

None of these machines are actually being used in the wild. Momentum has had a “burger machine” demo at trade shows since 2012 and they were offering leases but now that has all been scrubbed from their website.

237 Iwouldprefernotto  May 29, 2015 9:12:59am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

There’s a reason why my username is in honor of him. He was one of the first prominent Democrats to really speak up for Civil Rights. He would have made a fine president.

Happy Warrior. Did not know/remember. Learn something on LGF every day. Thanks.

238 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:13:32am

re: #230 ObserverArt

Thanks for taking one for the team.

I get email from gop.ugh and the shit they say always cracks me up. Stilted polls, conspiracy theories. It’s amazing that they are considered a mainstream political party.

239 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:14:21am

re: #233 Justanotherhuman

I see gotnewsresearch.com is still baiting Deray.

Inaccessible.

240 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:14:25am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

You should forward some porn to them. Who knows. Rick may lighten up.

I’d really hate to try playing “Guess the Kink” with that Falangist superstar…

ERK…

BRAIN BLEACH PLEASE GOD BRAIN BLEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

241 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:14:56am

re: #236 Lord Of The Pies

None of these machines are actually being used in the wild. Momentum has had a “burger machine” demo at trade shows since 2012 and they were offering leases but now that has all been scrubbed from their website.

Vaporware that apparently didn’t work, huh?

242 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:15:43am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

You should forward some porn to them. Who knows. Rick may lighten up.

He needs to get laid more often than it takes to make babies.

243 allegro  May 29, 2015 9:15:48am

re: #236 Lord Of The Pies

None of these machines are actually being used in the wild. Momentum has had a “burger machine” demo at trade shows since 2012 and they were offering leases but now that has all been scrubbed from their website.

It seems that what has been demonstrated by this exercise is that some things just should not be automated. Ever. Meal preparation is one of them.

244 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2015 9:16:28am

re: #239 WhatEVs

Inaccessible.

try @gotnewsresearch

245 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:16:44am

re: #237 Iwouldprefernotto

Happy Warrior. Did not know/remember. Learn something on LGF every day. Thanks.

americanrhetoric.com

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:16:49am

re: #233 Justanotherhuman

I see gotnewsresearch.com is still baiting Deray.

Shannon isn’t doing very well with that twitter account; pathetic, in fact.
I notice that she hasn’t linked to a single gotnews post. Most likely because that would definitely get the account suspended/banned. For now, she’s just walking on thin ice in terms of ToS.

247 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:16:56am

re: #239 WhatEVs

Inaccessible.

I meant @GotNewsResearch. Corrected.

248 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:17:17am

re: #240 William Lewis

I’d really hate to try playing “Guess the Kink” with that Falangist superstar…

ERK…

BRAIN BLEACH PLEASE GOD BRAIN BLEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Falangist superstar, man I love that.

249 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:17:59am

re: #243 allegro

It seems that what has been demonstrated by this exercise is that some things just should not be automated. Ever. Meal preparation is one of them.

But it gives wingnuts a talking point HAHA SOME MACHINE IS GONNA REPLACE UR WORTHLESS ASS!!!!!!!

250 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:18:15am

re: #235 William Lewis

Yeah, George McGovern was an odd case. Another one like Ford in many ways yet his time leading in B-24s taught him that even if you didn’t want to, sometimes you had to grab for the brass ring for the good of the rest of us. Pity it cost his family so terribly much.

Yeah a real shame about his daughter Eleanor I believe. A lot of people didn’t realize how big of a hero he was since he was really humble about it.

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:18:18am

re: #239 WhatEVs

Inaccessible.

It’s not a website. It’s a twitter account @gotnewsresearch

252 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 9:18:34am

re: #243 allegro

There are some automation methods that can improve consistent product output - like ovens that have moving conveyor belts - used by pizza and burger places. That way if you place the raw product at one end, the output will be consistent to the company’s intent. You eliminate the problem of undercooked or overcooked food.

Of course, it introduces other issues, like breakdowns and belts that move too fast or too slow b/c they aren’t calibrated properly, or other similar issues.

That’s something an experienced line cook/chef would identify and handle on the fly with a grill/griddle/oven. With the automated conveyor belt, if it breaks, you’re out of luck.

253 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:19:35am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Logic, it’s not their strong point.

254 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:20:14am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that has a companion that’s up, too. “Free Chuck”.

twitter.com

255 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 9:20:33am

re: #236 Lord Of The Pies

None of these machines are actually being used in the wild. Momentum has had a “burger machine” demo at trade shows since 2012 and they were offering leases but now that has all been scrubbed from their website.

Which tells me either that the machines are not as ready for prime-time as advertised or that the market they expected for their product just doesn’t exist. I’m sure that if it really was a one-time expense, there might be businesses willing to take the leap. But when it’s a constant expense, the customer is going to expect more of the product.

256 ObserverArt  May 29, 2015 9:20:37am

Oh yeah…don’t you just love that great logo Ricky is using?

I saw some video of him at his announcement gig. Damn, he is just real hard to take when you know all the BS he’s spouted to this point.

But you have to take him serious when you realize he actually was second man to Mitt.

257 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:21:05am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

That did it. Unfortunately.

258 Timothy Watson  May 29, 2015 9:21:11am

re: #253 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Logic, it’s not their strong point.

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Using PowerPoint to create meme images?

259 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:21:56am

re: #253 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Logic, it’s not their strong point.

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Yet another right wing dipshit who doesn’t get that right wingers are the real free loaders in this country. The red states take a ton more than they give back. I don’t mind it but i really resent the lies by conservatives about how they (conservatives) are self-sufficient while liberals are just leeches to the government. You can say that lie how many times you want cons but it doesn’t take away from the fact that you have no problem with government benefits when it helps you but it grates you when people like immigrants, racial minorities, etc benefit from the same thing.

260 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:22:25am

re: #256 ObserverArt

Oh yeah…don’t you just love that great logo Ricky is using?

I saw some video of him at his announcement gig. Damn, he is just real hard to take when you know all the BS he’s spouted to this point.

But you have to take him serious when you realize he actually was second man to Mitt.

Santorum: If you like your Huckabee Catholic flavored.

261 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:22:43am

re: #254 Justanotherhuman

And that has a companion that’s up, too. “Free Chuck”.

twitter.com

That’s just a hashtag.

262 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:23:30am

re: #253 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Logic, it’s not their strong point.

[Embedded content]

Yeash. That really is stupider than most of them.

263 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:24:17am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I don’t do twitter and it shows.

264 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:24:35am
265 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:26:57am

re: #255 Targetpractice

Which tells me either that the machines are not as ready for prime-time as advertised or that the market they expected for their product just doesn’t exist. I’m sure that if it really was a one-time expense, there might be businesses willing to take the leap. But when it’s a constant expense, the customer is going to expect more of the product.

Momentum, in a now-deleted press release, said they wanted to open their own restaurant and be the first users of their product.

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:27:13am

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

OK, I don’t do twitter and it shows.

:D

@ in front is a twitter account
# is a hashtag for a topic

267 allegro  May 29, 2015 9:28:06am

re: #252 lawhawk

There are some automation methods that can improve consistent product output - like ovens that have moving conveyor belts - used by pizza and burger places. That way if you place the raw product at one end, the output will be consistent to the company’s intent. You eliminate the problem of undercooked or overcooked food.

Of course, it introduces other issues, like breakdowns and belts that move too fast or too slow b/c they aren’t calibrated properly, or other similar issues.

That’s something an experienced line cook/chef would identify and handle on the fly with a grill/griddle/oven. With the automated conveyor belt, if it breaks, you’re out of luck.

Absolutely. However these ovens require people at both ends to actually prepare the food and do quality control. My food processor arguably automates chopping and an electric mixer saves a lot of elbow grease but neither are preparing a meal.

269 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:29:55am

re: #257 WhatEVs

That did it. Unfortunately.

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270 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:30:11am

Could it be that THE MACHINE THAT CAN REPLACE ALL TEH MINIMUM WAGE UNSKILLEDS!!!!!! is unemployed?

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:30:33am

I get an email every day from BookBub for free or very low priced ebook deals.
One of today’s offerings is “Sharcano”:

A deadly volcano rises from the sea — and hungry sharks made of molten lava start pouring out! With the apocalypse looming, journalist Mick and marine biologist Agnes risk their lives to stop it in this funny, exhilarating thriller.

I think I’ll pass on that one.
:D

272 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:31:01am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Santorum: If you like your Huckabee Catholic flavored.

Nah, Santorum’s the original. Just like his Catholic mentors from Spain. 80 years later and they’re still suffering the consequences. If you ever want to know what the GOP really wants look at Spain and Chile. Those two “catholic” hellholes are their dreams.

Catholic means universal. I have a much different idea of what world I want to see available universally - I think that when I pray “We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.” i am thinking something very different from either of the Santorum or Huckabee rat bastards.

But then, that’s what I get for being an old school high church anglo-catholic Episcopalian (and if you can parse that sentence, congratulations! You’re three quarters of the way to being one… )

273 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 9:31:15am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

I get an email every day from BookBub for free or very low priced ebook deals.
One of today’s offerings is “Sharcano”:

I think I’ll pass on that one.
:D

Sharknado in text.

I’ll pass too.

274 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:31:44am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

I get an email every day from BookBub for free or very low priced ebook deals.
One of today’s offerings is “Sharcano”:

I think I’ll pass on that one.
:D

Sounds worse than “Sharknado!”

275 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 9:32:43am

re: #265 Lord Of The Pies

Momentum, in a now-deleted press release, said they wanted to open their own restaurant and be the first users of their product.

Which seems to be a big hint that it’s just not ready for prime time. Of course, there’s another possibility that I didn’t consider, namely that the system of regulation just isn’t able to handle such a machine. Right now, health inspectors are expected to go around and check the work surfaces, check the employees, and various other items to ensure that things are hygienic. You can’t very well shut down the machine, tear it apart for an inspection, and then put it back together and start it up in the middle of a lunch service.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:32:44am

re: #273 WhatEVs

re: #274 Justanotherhuman

You know it has to be bad when I decide to take a pass on a free book.

277 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 9:33:27am

re: #272 William Lewis

Nah, Santorum’s the original. Just like his Catholic mentors from Spain. 80 years later and they’re still suffering the consequences. If you ever want to know what the GOP really wants look at Spain and Chile. Those two “catholic” hellholes are their dreams.

Catholic means universal. I have a much different idea of what world I want to see available universally - I think that when I pray “We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.” i am thinking something very different from either of the Santorum or Huckabee rat bastards.

But then, that’s what I get for being an old school high church anglo-catholic Episcopalian (and if you can parse that sentence, congratulations! You’re three quarters of the way to being one… )

True true. He just sounds so different than the Catholic tradition I was sort of raised in.

278 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:36:19am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

True true. He just sounds so different than the Catholic tradition I was sort of raised in.

Santorum says he’s not Opus Dei, but he sent 2 of his sons to a school they operate in DC and says Opus Dei influences him.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:37:11am

This is happening.
I’m going to have to think about what to submit.
Also, I didn’t know the page existed, so just now bookmarked it.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:37:38am

re: #278 Justanotherhuman

Santorum says he’s not Opus Dei, but he sent 2 of his sons to a school they operate in DC and says Opus Dei influences him.

Santorum is totally Opus Dei.

281 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:38:27am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Santorum is totally Opus Dei.

OMG he wears the chain around his leg. That’s so creepy.

282 Nyet  May 29, 2015 9:38:51am

Santorum is Dopus Dei.

283 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 9:39:09am

Drone aficionados: It’s a lie!

LaGuardia-Bound Jet Has Close Call With Drone Near Brooklyn’s Prospect Park: Officials

nbcnewyork.com

A passenger jet heading to LaGuardia Airport had a close call with a drone near Prospect Park in Brooklyn Friday morning, just hours after five pilots reported someone had pointed green lasers at their planes near New York-area airports, officials say.

Shuttle America flight 2708 was heading toward LaGuardia from Washington, D.C., when it encountered the unmanned aircraft in its flight path, officials say. The plane’s pilot had to pull up about 200 feet to avoid the drone, authorities said. The plane later landed safely. More

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:39:42am
285 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:40:16am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

True true. He just sounds so different than the Catholic tradition I was sort of raised in.

Oh? Easter/Christmas? Or a bit more than that but still not full bore? Just remember that even at it’s worst, Santorum and his ilk are still only a small part of the church as it exists under the authority of the Bishop of Rome. The current one reminds us all that holy people are everywhere…

My mother & my ex-wife both went to parochial schools - I’ve seen the good and bad of the whole of the tradition. That’s one reason I’m Anglican now. Best of both worlds, as The Next Generation once put it :D

286 Nyet  May 29, 2015 9:42:35am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t Chuck for banning the Koran or something? I may be mixing up my bigots.

287 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:42:37am

re: #281 Lord Of The Pies

OMG he wears the chain around his leg. That’s so creepy.

Yeah, I don’t like going there but yep. He’s as sick & creepy as they come in my tradition. It’s why I fight so hard against him and Huck.

288 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:43:07am

re: #285 William Lewis

I went to Catholic grade schools. Developed excellent study habits and a lifelong love of reading and learning.
Best thing I got out of it, however, was absolutely gorgeous penmanship.

289 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:43:58am

re: #287 William Lewis

Yeah, I don’t like going there but yep. He’s as sick & creepy as they come in my tradition. It’s why I fight so hard against him and Huck.

I was being facetious. I don’t know anything about OD except what I read in the Da Vinci Code which is all bullshit. He really does wear that thing?

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:44:40am

JFK would be 98 years old today.
I feel so old…

291 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:47:52am

re: #289 Lord Of The Pies

I was being facetious. I don’t know anything about OD except what I read in the Da Vinci Code which is all bullshit. He really does wear that thing?

I have read that he does. I do _not_ know if it is true. It would not surprise me. Much as I dislike the CT nonsense of the those books, they always have just enough that is true to make the weak minded go “gee maybe?” .

Jedi mind tricks in reverse…

292 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 9:48:04am

Another thing that wingnuts saying automation will replace workers don’t get is that the machine is going to break down and, when that happens, it’s going to kill a business. McDonald’s isn’t rushing to put these machines in their shops because all it takes is one shop having a breakdown during a busy lunch rush to destroy confidence in the machines. The whole purpose of buying the machines is to make more money by removing three workers. But you can replace those workers or get a manager to handle one of the empty spots during a lunch rush. The machine breaks down, then there’s no back-up, and nothing is coming out of that kitchen but excuses to customers.

293 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 9:49:50am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sharcano was in my BookBub email too. The lurid description convinced me that it’s worth a look.

Even money that it will be made into a movie.

294 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 9:50:33am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Bingo. I’ve worked at McDonald’s. Lunch rush is everything. They will not change over to a machine in the lifetime of anyone reading this today…

295 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 9:51:53am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Another thing that wingnuts saying automation will replace workers don’t get is that the machine is going to break down and, when that happens, it’s going to kill a business. McDonald’s isn’t rushing to put these machines in their shops because all it takes is one shop having a breakdown during a busy lunch rush to destroy confidence in the machines. The whole purpose of buying the machines is to make more money by removing three workers. But you can replace those workers or get a manager to handle one of the empty spots during a lunch rush. The machine breaks down, then there’s no back-up, and nothing is coming out of that kitchen but excuses to customers.

Right now this magical machine is just a wingnut meme to threaten and bully poors with.

296 Ace-o-aces  May 29, 2015 9:52:04am

I suspect Ann’s definition of “overweight” would be the kind of woman actual heterosexual men find attractive.

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:54:20am

re: #293 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sharcano was in my BookBub email too. The lurid description convinced me that it’s worth a look.

Even money that it will be made into a movie.

I’ll think about it. The fact that the blurb included the word “funny” might be what saves it.

Oh, and “free”.

:D

298 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 9:56:24am

re: #295 Lord Of The Pies

Right now this magical machine is just a wingnut meme to threaten and bully poors with.

In my experience, automation is only magical when it works as advertised. It’s like how we’ll never see the much-advertised “paperless office” because an office is always one server crash away from losing months of valuable work. And I’m reminded of all the talk about how the Navy was gonna build ships that could run themselves…right up until they actually tried it and the WinOS they’d spent months installing blue-screened during a critical test.

299 allegro  May 29, 2015 9:57:09am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Another thing that wingnuts saying automation will replace workers don’t get is that the machine is going to break down and, when that happens, it’s going to kill a business. McDonald’s isn’t rushing to put these machines in their shops because all it takes is one shop having a breakdown during a busy lunch rush to destroy confidence in the machines. The whole purpose of buying the machines is to make more money by removing three workers. But you can replace those workers or get a manager to handle one of the empty spots during a lunch rush. The machine breaks down, then there’s no back-up, and nothing is coming out of that kitchen but excuses to customers.

I saw something like this first hand a couple of weeks ago. A friend and I go out to dinner every Friday evening and we went to a restaurant we hadn’t been to before. Turned out to be a place where you have to place your order at the counter then come fetch it when it’s done. We stood there for a very long time when the couple in front of us were ordering, then finally got to the front. Waited and waited some more. The line grew behind us almost out the door. Finally we we realized their computer ordering system was down and they seemed completely at a loss. We’re like hey you got pencil and paper? Certainly a business would have some backup plan. They didn’t. We left as did those behind us in line. We will never be back.

300 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 9:57:42am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll think about it. The fact that the blurb included the word “funny” might be what saves it.

Oh, and “free”.

:D

That last was the clincher for me.

301 EPR-radar  May 29, 2015 9:58:02am

re: #296 Ace-o-aces

Ann Coulter remains as hateful as ever. Honestly, I’ll be very happy when I see her obituary in the news.

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 9:58:04am

re: #293 Higgs Boson’s Mate

OK, I just read through the pre-publication reviews and it sounds gloriously cheesy and stupid. MrBWS will love it.

303 Lidane  May 29, 2015 9:58:14am
304 CuriousLurker  May 29, 2015 9:59:14am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFK would be 98 years old today.
I feel so old…

[Embedded content]

Sheesh, my first thought was, “He was Catholic, why was he wearing a a yellow Judenstern?” Then it dawned on me—oh, it’s a cop’s badge. Duh.

Maybe I need to go make another cuppa joe. //

305 danarchy  May 29, 2015 9:59:49am

re: #294 William Lewis

Bingo. I’ve worked at McDonald’s. Lunch rush is everything. They will not change over to a machine in the lifetime of anyone reading this today…

That can be a really long time, and so much can change it is hardly wworth speculating. If the technology improved enough that they could put 4 of them in at a reasonable cost so they could lose half the machines and keep running I have no doubt they would. Thing is Mcdonalds doesn’t just do burgers…they do burgers, and chicken and filet-o-fish and wraps and salads etc.

A robot to make a burger isn’t all that complicated, a robot to make the dozens of items on a mcdonalds menu on demand would be a freaking nightmare.

306 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 10:00:19am

re: #304 CuriousLurker

Sheesh, my first thought was, “He was Catholic, why was he wearing a a yellow Judenstern?” Then it dawned on me—oh, it’s a cop’s badge. Duh.

Maybe I need to go make another cuppa joe. //

I thought the same thing!

307 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:00:22am

re: #303 Lidane

Ewww. I would have wanted to take a sledgehammer to it.

308 Dave In Austin  May 29, 2015 10:00:52am

re: #291 William Lewis

Worn as a constant reminder of the suffering of Christ. And as sinners we must remember that suffering as well. We are flawed sinning mortals that must submit to the will of God.

Or some such nonsense…..

309 Ace-o-aces  May 29, 2015 10:00:59am

I mean, I know he was evil…but that’s just weird.

310 CuriousLurker  May 29, 2015 10:01:01am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought the same thing!

Thank goodness I’m not alone, heh.

311 Nyet  May 29, 2015 10:01:38am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Me too. Sigh.

312 Nyet  May 29, 2015 10:01:55am

re: #309 Ace-o-aces

I don’t think so, no.

313 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 10:02:29am

re: #310 CuriousLurker

Thank goodness I’m not alone, heh.

Then I thought “Keystone Cops!”

314 Lidane  May 29, 2015 10:02:32am

Wheee!

315 A Cranky One  May 29, 2015 10:03:01am

re: #274 Justanotherhuman

Sounds worse than “Sharknado!”

I want to be in the sequel to Sharknado.

Prepare for your doom!
316 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:03:54am

Can you smell the fried plantains?
U.S. Removes Cuba From State-Sponsored Terrorism List

317 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 29, 2015 10:04:10am

re: #304 CuriousLurker

Sheesh, my first thought was, “He was Catholic, why was he wearing a a yellow Judenstern?” Then it dawned on me—oh, it’s a cop’s badge. Duh.

Maybe I need to go make another cuppa joe. //

Good to hear that it wasn’t just me.

318 William Lewis  May 29, 2015 10:04:35am

re: #303 Lidane

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I dearly love that photograph. I love her photojournalism as well, but I know what it’s like to live for months in the field and I can guarantee I’d be lined up behind her for a moment in that tub :D

319 allegro  May 29, 2015 10:04:54am

re: #317 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Good to hear that it wasn’t just me.

Me too neither.

320 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:06:44am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

True true. He just sounds so different than the Catholic tradition I was sort of raised in.

No Baltimore Catechism for you?

321 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:09:46am
322 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:11:31am

another Hazardous Weather Outlook in my part of the world.

Actually, outside my door right now it is quite beautiful. Landscapers even just cut the grass.

You?

323 blueraven  May 29, 2015 10:12:10am

FIFA vote for President goes to second round.

324 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 10:12:32am

re: #323 blueraven

FIFA vote for President goes to second round.

Red cards issued all around.

325 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 10:12:32am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Can you smell the fried plantains?
U.S. Removes Cuba From State-Sponsored Terrorism List

Yes and the rum and the Cubano sandwiches.

326 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 10:12:41am

re: #270 Lord Of The Pies

Could it be that THE MACHINE THAT CAN REPLACE ALL TEH MINIMUM WAGE UNSKILLEDS!!!!!! is unemployed?

Cities voting to raise the minimum wage made the minimum wage job replacing machines go out of business.

////

327 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 10:13:35am

re: #326 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Cities voting to raise the minimum wage made the minimum wage job replacing machines go out of business.

////

Machines are people too, my friend.

328 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 10:13:49am

re: #305 danarchy

That can be a really long time, and so much can change it is hardly wworth speculating. If the technology improved enough that they could put 4 of them in at a reasonable cost so they could lose half the machines and keep running I have no doubt they would. Thing is Mcdonalds doesn’t just do burgers…they do burgers, and chicken and filet-o-fish and wraps and salads etc.

A robot to make a burger isn’t all that complicated, a robot to make the dozens of items on a mcdonalds menu on demand would be a freaking nightmare.

That’s the other side to it, that a single-function machine that replaces a multifunction one is a waste of space and money. You can retrain a worker to handle a new item on the menu. But you’re gonna have to spend time rewriting the OS for that machine to handle a new item and testing it to ensure a consistent product every time. A business that keeps workers on the grill may spend a bit more in wages than the machine, but it can retrain those workers for a fraction of the cost of refitting every single machine for a new menu item.

329 CuriousLurker  May 29, 2015 10:14:06am

re: #322 FemNaziBitch

Here, this is for you because I know you love puppies. Who doesn’t?

330 BeachDem  May 29, 2015 10:17:23am

I know sunshine is the best disinfectant, but honestly, I thinking giving cranks like the AZ anti-Muslim rally guy TV time to air his noxious views is a bridge too far. What purpose does it serve?

Anderson Cooper could have discussed the issue without breathing more life into the whacko’s planned idiocy.

Not linking.

331 b.d.  May 29, 2015 10:17:53am

re: #323 blueraven

FIFA vote for President goes to second round.

I wonder if they’ll let this end in a tie?

332 Lidane  May 29, 2015 10:18:31am

Gee. I wonder what she means. /////

333 Lidane  May 29, 2015 10:19:04am

re: #331 b.d.

I wonder if they’ll let this end in a tie?

334 blueraven  May 29, 2015 10:19:05am

re: #331 b.d.

I wonder if they’ll let this end in a tie?

Prince Ali just conceded.

Sepp Blatter will get another 4 yr term.

335 freetoken  May 29, 2015 10:19:33am

re: #332 Lidane

BROWN PEOPLE!!

336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:19:39am

I have finished my parsing of the Milo Yiannopoulos interview of UpChuck. It’s in four parts, and the first part is here.

Some parts snark, some parts verbatim quotes, because otherwise people would just think I’m making it all up.

337 b.d.  May 29, 2015 10:20:06am

re: #334 blueraven

Prince Ali just conceded.

Sepp Blatter will get another 4 yr term.

FAKE NAMES!

338 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:20:53am
339 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:21:17am

re: #322 FemNaziBitch

Landscaper (the same guy, not a new one) ruined the front lawn which is turning brown. Supposedly, they were to fire him and hire a local firm, but he was here Wed.

Hopefully, all the rain we’re getting next week will revive it. It looks like shit around here and the old owner was really a lawn-proud kind of guy.

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2015 10:22:27am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have finished my parsing of the Milo Yiannopoulos interview of UpChuck. It’s in four parts, and the first part is here.

Some parts snark, some parts verbatim quotes, because otherwise people would just think I’m making it all up.

I read the first two parts this morning (couldn’t stop laughing!) Will read the next two parts when I’m finished with my own journalism work in a couple of hours.

341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 29, 2015 10:23:16am

re: #332 Lidane

Gee. I wonder what she means. /////

Phyllis Schlafly is still alive?

/

342 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:23:51am

re: #341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Phyllis Schlafly is still alive?

/

She lives off the hate of others. /

343 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 10:23:56am

re: #341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Phyllis Schlafly is still alive?

/

Hate is a hell of a drug.

344 freetoken  May 29, 2015 10:24:26am

re: #343 Targetpractice

Hate is a hell of a drug.

A very addictive one at that.

345 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:24:28am

re: #341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Phyllis Schlafly is still alive?

/

She’s so mean the Angel of Death is afraid to go near her

(Zedushka used to say this about his bitch aunt who lived to 104)

346 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:24:46am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read the first two parts this morning (couldn’t stop laughing!) Will read the next two parts when I’m finished with my own journalism work in a couple of hours.

Thanks. I was hoping some people would find it funny. It’s hard for me to tell sometimes what works and what doesn’t.

347 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:25:07am

California is officially fucked.

348 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:26:03am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In short: All you lesser lights don’t understand what a genius journalist I am, so go pound sand while I continue to do as I please and no one can touch me.

349 lawhawk  May 29, 2015 10:26:50am

Fun with statistics:

The chart is a dead giveaway that he’s just wrong. There are at least three points during Obama’s term in office (starting 1/20/2009) where pro-choice outpolled the anti-abortion crowd in the Gallup polling - in 2011, 2013, and now 2015.

And if we’re returning to the pre-Obama days, then pro-choice would be ascendant for a long time to come. The fact is that the GOP is pushing all manner of restrictions on abortion, whether it’s TRAP laws or other restrictions, some of which are already being found unconstitutional restrictions on access to abortion (like limiting the period in which you can get an abortion to 20 weeks or less).

350 EPR-radar  May 29, 2015 10:26:52am

re: #338 FemNaziBitch

This is pretty weak sauce. From the article:

At that point, TED claimed that it did indeed want to feature talks about abortion, and now, at long last, here we are: Baker will speak for Exhale, a 15-year-old organization that promotes respectful dialogue around abortion, but doesn’t call itself pro-choice (From their FAQ: “We don’t choose sides. Pro-voice is an alternative to divisive political rhetoric, and its home is in the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice.”)

This is a kind of stupid middle of the road shit I have not seen before. WTF is “the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice”?

351 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:28:15am

re: #329 CuriousLurker

Here, this is for you because I know you love puppies. Who doesn’t?

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:)

352 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:28:17am

re: #350 EPR-radar

This is pretty weak sauce. From the article:

This is a kind of stupid middle of the road shit I have not seen before. WTF is “the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice”?

Sitting on the fence until it’s too late?

353 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2015 10:28:40am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have finished my parsing of the Milo Yiannopoulos interview of UpChuck. It’s in four parts, and the first part is here.

Some parts snark, some parts verbatim quotes, because otherwise people would just think I’m making it all up.

I drink a toast in your name, because you do God’s Lizard’s work.

354 Kryptik  May 29, 2015 10:29:08am

re: #330 BeachDem

Done right, it exposes the ideas for the crazy it is and points out how shameful such things and actions should be.

The problem is most media does it wrong and turns it into he said, she said, golden mean coverage and just legitimizes them.

355 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:29:29am

re: #350 EPR-radar

This is pretty weak sauce. From the article:

This is a kind of stupid middle of the road shit I have not seen before. WTF is “the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice”?

I don’t like the terms “pro-choice” and “pro-life”

One side believes fetus > woman
The other believes woman > fetus

356 Dave In Austin  May 29, 2015 10:30:45am

re: #347 Lord Of The Pies

I wish every last Californian would move to Texas……

357 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:30:55am

re: #348 Justanotherhuman

In short: All you lesser lights don’t understand what a genius journalist I am, so go pound sand while I continue to do as I please and no one can touch me.

Yeah, that’s the ultra-short version, but I wanted to convey the depth of his self-image, an odd mix of braggadoccio and bruised ego.

And while I was slaving over his heap of verbiage, UpChuck was playing the martyr on his own blog. I am convinced he just does not understand that the reason he was suspended was the constant stream of abusive and near-abusive tweets he’s made, not just the DeRay tweet. It was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and the sockpuppet accounts merely beat the dead camel.

358 allegro  May 29, 2015 10:31:26am

re: #350 EPR-radar

This is pretty weak sauce. From the article:

This is a kind of stupid middle of the road shit I have not seen before. WTF is “the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice”?

It’s like being a little bit pregnant.

359 freetoken  May 29, 2015 10:32:31am

Duggar badness continues to be exposed:

Jim Bob Duggar A Liar? Convicted Ex-Cop Says Duggar Family Patriarch Lied To Police About Extent Of Josh’s Abuse

360 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:32:59am

re: #350 EPR-radar

This is pretty weak sauce. From the article:

This is a kind of stupid middle of the road shit I have not seen before. WTF is “the grey area between pro-life and pro-choice”?

people who aren’t either or are confused about the issue. How can one be confused? I think it’s the people who wrestle between being anti-abortion, but truly don’t want the government involved.

It’s an emotional issue. My take is that the organization is trying to open dialogue so people can get past their emotions and make objective decisions.

361 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:33:38am

re: #357 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yes, I enjoyed it! You have the patience I don’t for his bullshit. : )

362 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 10:33:46am

re: #293 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sharcano was in my BookBub email too. The lurid description convinced me that it’s worth a look.

Even money that it will be made into a movie.

Starring a one-handed Tara Reid?

363 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2015 10:33:49am

I am strongly, strongly pro-choice …and I have no idea how I would choose if it were my decision. I’d rather not find out. We take steps to avoid finding out.

But I want the option - and the choice - available to me if I need it.

364 Skip Intro  May 29, 2015 10:34:41am

re: #347 Lord Of The Pies

California is officially fucked.

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You know whose fault that is, don’t you.

Yup, you guessed it. Illegal immigrants.

Group says California immigration policies contributed to drought

latimes.com

365 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:35:35am

re: #360 FemNaziBitch

people who aren’t either or are confused about the issue. How can one be confused? I think it’s the people who wrestle between being anti-abortion, but truly don’t want the government involved.

It’s an emotional issue. My take is that the organization is trying to open dialogue so people can get past their emotions and make objective decisions.

Even the most rabid “pro-life” are willing to make an exception to save the life of the mother (then again maybe not)

But if you make an exception for the mother’s life you have to allow it for everyone. Because the threat to the mother’s life can develop very quickly. Time is of the essence and the woman can die while legal hoops are being jumped through.

366 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:36:29am

re: #364 Skip Intro

You know whose fault that is, don’t you.

Yup, you guessed it. Illegal immigrants.

Group says California immigration policies contributed to drought

latimes.com

I thought it was LIBTARD ENVIRONMENTALIST WHACKOS TAKING ALL ARE WATER AN GIVING IT TO SOME DUMB SMELTS!!!!!!!

367 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:36:38am

re: #363 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, at this point I’m too old to worry about it, but younger women in their child bearing years should have a choice. And be provided more birth control they’ll actually use—free, if it’s needed.

368 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:37:08am

re: #355 Lord Of The Pies

I don’t like the terms “pro-choice” and “pro-life”

One side believes fetus > woman
The other believes woman > fetus

It is just not so cut and dried, IMHO.

I, personally, believe the fetus is such a great responsibility that I can’t fathom that we don’t teach kids Comprehensive Sex Ed and provide free Birth Control. I don’t understand why we don’t have a national policy that works to ensure every child conceived is wanted by parents who have realistic expectations on how they wish to raise the child.

Choosing to abort a pregnancy can be the best choice for both the woman and the fetus.

Legal Abortion is self-defense as much as legal access to a weapon is.

369 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:38:01am

re: #361 Justanotherhuman

Yes, I enjoyed it! You have the patience I don’t for his bullshit. : )

I almost gave up on it, because frankly it was painful to listen to. But once I begin something, I will finish it, or it will bug me. Also, I had the time today to work on it.

The painful part is mostly dealing with Chuck’s complete inability to speak coherently, and his (and Milo’s) complete inability to understand how words can hurt and threaten.

370 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 10:38:46am

re: #332 Lidane

Gee. I wonder what she means. /////

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Fuck that bigoted witch.

371 freetoken  May 29, 2015 10:38:59am

re: #364 Skip Intro

That’s the whole VDH line - who inspires that anti-immigration group - and one which even taken at face value can’t be true.

A drought is defined as soil water content. Now one can blame humans for pumping water out of aquifers, but when that is done a substantial fraction of that water is poured back onto the soil.

This is part of the bigger derp-eruption over climate change and human responsibility and looking for scapegoats.

Might as well blame the BROWN PEOPLE! instead of owning the responsibility oneself.

372 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 10:40:19am

re: #309 Ace-o-aces

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I mean, I know he was evil…but that’s just weird.

That was my first thought, too. Narcissistic.

373 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2015 10:40:20am

re: #369 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In part 3, you have a bold tag that didn’t get properly closed. Just FYI, since you’re using bold to indicate verbatim quotes.

And wow, he’s nuts.

374 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:40:23am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Fuck that bigoted witch.

With Rush Limbaugh’s vagina.

375 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2015 10:40:37am

Nineteen advertisers have abandoned the Duggars, per MSNBC.

376 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 10:41:11am

re: #375 Justanotherhuman

Nineteen advertisers have abandoned the Duggars, per MSNBC.

Clearly bigoted against Christians.//

377 A Cranky One  May 29, 2015 10:41:22am

re: #375 Justanotherhuman

Nineteen advertisers have abandoned the Duggars, per MSNBC.

Nineteen and counting. ;)

378 Lidane  May 29, 2015 10:42:14am

re: #363 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am strongly, strongly pro-choice …and I have no idea how I would choose if it were my decision. I’d rather not find out. We take steps to avoid finding out.

But I want the option - and the choice - available to me if I need it.

That’s my thought as well.

I can’t think of a single circumstance where I’d have an abortion. I take steps to avoid having to face that decision. Still, I want the option available to me if I need it.

379 BeachDem  May 29, 2015 10:43:11am

re: #346 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks. I was hoping some people would find it funny. It’s hard for me to tell sometimes what works and what doesn’t.

He will never get over the fact that Wilner has a real job as a journalist.

Anxiously awaiting the next installments!

Oops—see they’re all there—off to read (instead of working—hey, it’s Friday!)

380 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:43:19am
381 RadicalModerate  May 29, 2015 10:45:39am

Speaking of Coulter, the SPLC has an article about her finally dropping the mask.

Ann Coulter - A White Nationalist in the Mainstream?

Ann Coulter was back in the news again this week following racist comments she made during an interview with Fusion TV host Jorge Ramos. Coulter claimed the Mexican culture is “deficient” and went on to claim that part of Mexican culture includes “uncles raping their nieces.” Such quotes are nothing new for Coulter, who uses her mainstream popularity as a platform to spread white nationalist messages and ideas to a large audience.

Over the past few decades, other white nationalist ideologues such as Pat Buchanan and Sam Francis (before his death) have been publicly denounced and marginalized. The main question for TV networks and newspaper columns is why are they not doing the same to Coulter? If one looks at her quotes throughout the years, many strikingly similar things have been uttered by neo-Nazis and hardcore white nationalists. Yet Coulter remains in the mainstream.

382 Lidane  May 29, 2015 10:46:42am

Mental health break:

383 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2015 10:47:01am

re: #373 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In part 3, you have a bold tag that didn’t get properly closed. Just FYI, since you’re using bold to indicate verbatim quotes.

And wow, he’s nuts.

Thx. I fixed it.

384 WhatEVs  May 29, 2015 10:47:15am

re: #341 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Phyllis Schlafly is still alive?

/

She Who Must Not Be Named.

385 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2015 10:49:04am

re: #381 RadicalModerate

Speaking of Coulter, the SPLC has an article about her finally dropping the mask.

Ann Coulter - A White Nationalist in the Mainstream?

The deranged asshole will consider this a “badge of honor”.

386 freetoken  May 29, 2015 10:51:40am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

Once again, I refer to one of those AmRen videos I watched this week, where the life of Sam Francis was recounted, and the story of Coulter dining with him.

I’m not sure how thick the mask has been in the first place.

387 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 10:52:57am
388 Nyet  May 29, 2015 10:55:38am

Ann Coulter 1:

Hispanics are natural Democrats. More than any other ethnic group, they think capitalism is a bad system. They are the most pro-choice. They are the most - foreign-born Hispanics - the most anti-Semitic in the country.

Ann Coulter 2:

First, Rick Sanchez:

Very powerless people… [snickers] He’s such a minority, I mean, you know [sarcastically]… Please, what are you kidding? … I’m telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they — the people in this country who are Jewish — are an oppressed minority? Yeah. [sarcastically]

Then:

389 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 10:57:37am

re: #388 Nyet

Ann Coulter 1:

Ann Coulter 2: Rick Sanchez:

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Coming from a woman who says Jews need to be “perfected into Christians”, she can shut her bigoted face about Anti-Semitism and secondly Ann, many Latinos are Jewish. But I get it you’re a bigot. Thanks Ann for showing exactly why women like my sister in law and her sisters and my niece will never want anything to do with your disgusting excuse for a party.

390 RadicalModerate  May 29, 2015 10:58:57am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

The deranged asshole will consider this a “badge of honor”.

Being that she recently went on a Latino affairs talkshow hosted by Jorge Ramos and went full-bore racist on it, I have no doubts about that whatsoever.

Ann Coulter: Mexican culture “is obviously deficient,” and Hispanics are “not black, so drop the racism crap”

391 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 10:59:57am
392 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 11:02:03am

re: #390 RadicalModerate

Being that she recently went on a Latino affairs talkshow hosted by Jorge Ramos and went full-bore racist on it, I have no doubts about that whatsoever.

Ann Coulter: Mexican culture “is obviously deficient,” and Hispanics are “not black, so drop the racism crap”

She needs to stop wearing those short skirts and start wearing a klan robe. The woman is and always has been a deranged bigot. Conservatives wonder why Hispanics immigrants gravitate towards the Democratic Party. Well guys is it any wonder when you have bigots like Ann Coulter front and center bashing the Hispanic people. You guys have only yourselves to blame when Hispanics play a big role in the GOP’s demise as a party at a federal level and I am going to enjoy every minute of it because you brought it on yourselves by being bigots instead of learning from the lessons of the past but then again Ann Coulter’s ideological great grandmother was probably bitching about the Irish too.

393 Lord Of The Pies  May 29, 2015 11:02:19am

WHUT

394 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 11:05:50am

Right wingers just never change. When my ancestors got here. It was “Damn those Papist Irish/Germans. When my later ancestors got here. It was damn those anarchist Eastern Europeans. Now with Hispanics, it’s damn those commie Hispanics and Ann maybe they don’t have the best picture of capitalism since they’ve seen first hand the effects of how Capitalism isn’t the rah rah system you make it to be. After all you’ve made millions in such a system by being a hate merchant. In a truly just economic system, you’d be shoveling shit.

395 Targetpractice  May 29, 2015 11:08:59am

re: #391 Lord Of The Pies

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For whatever reason, that post made me sit here and think of what some future civilization would make of places like NYC, all the remnants of skyscrapers poking out of the ground.

396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 29, 2015 11:09:39am

Latinos could be natural born Republicans. They have a strong sense of family and community (major GOP talking points) and many of them are devout (Catholic) christians.

So why do they not vote GOP in droves? Because their sense of community also means strong public institutions to promote social advancement, like good schools for starters.

And to many Protestant fundamentalists, Catholics are at best suspect except for the anti-abortion and anti-birth control positions of their clergy.

397 Sionainn  May 29, 2015 11:11:22am

re: #336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have finished my parsing of the Milo Yiannopoulos interview of UpChuck. It’s in four parts, and the first part is here.

Some parts snark, some parts verbatim quotes, because otherwise people would just think I’m making it all up.

LOL. Excellent job.

398 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 11:12:14am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Latinos could be natural born Republicans. They have a strong sense of family and community (major GOP talking points) and many of them are devout (Catholic) christians.

So why do they not vote GOP in droves? Because their sense of community also means strong public institutions to promote social advancement, like good schools for starters.

And to many Protestant fundamentalists, Catholics are at best suspect except for the anti-abortion and anti-birth control positions of their clergy.

The only reason why Evangelicals stopped bashing Catholics as much is because of the Roe decision. And even with that, Evangelicals are still very anti-Catholic. Latinos don’t vote GOP ultimately because they see what the party says and actually does. The GOP loves to talk about family values. It’s true that Hispanics are definitely culturally conservative by and large but family values is more than just a catch phrase to them. Family values actually means something to Hispanics much more than it does the White Evangelicals that dominate the GOP and use that phrase as a rational to hate gay people and degrade women who choose to get abortions.

399 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2015 11:17:35am

re: #395 Targetpractice

For whatever reason, that post made me sit here and think of what some future civilization would make of places like NYC, all the remnants of skyscrapers poking out of the ground.

The tribal chiefs driving their people and society into the ground to build meaningless large monuments on an island sitting in a river?
;)

400 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2015 11:19:40am

Pat Robertson: Gay Men Are Pedophiles Who Want To Recruit Your Sons (Video)

because sex is a vice … .

*spit*

401 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 11:23:56am

re: #400 FemNaziBitch

Pat Robertson: Gay Men Are Pedophiles Who Want To Recruit Your Sons (Video)

because sex is a vice … .

*spit*

He again shows why he’s a disgusting bigoted old man.

402 Lidane  May 29, 2015 11:32:38am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If you want to understand how many Latinos are culturally, just look at the Pope. And I’m being serious.

On social and cultural issues, yeah. Latinos tend to be conservative. Deeply religious, culturally Catholic, all about family and community and hard work, etc. But the punchline for the GOP is that Latinos ALSO tend to express those beliefs through the more liberal social justice teachings of the Vatican. It’s why the RWNJs are always flipping their shit about the Pope. For every condemnation of teh ghey or abortion that Frances makes, he also talks about income inequality, climate change, and other issues that drive the right nuts and make them call him a librul Marxist.

403 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2015 11:41:20am

re: #402 Lidane

If you want to understand how many Latinos are culturally, just look at the Pope. And I’m being serious.

On social and cultural issues, yeah. Latinos tend to be conservative. Deeply religious, culturally Catholic, all about family and community and hard work, etc. But the punchline for the GOP is that Latinos ALSO tend to express those beliefs through the more liberal social justice teachings of the Vatican. It’s why the RWNJs are always flipping their shit about the Pope. For every condemnation of teh ghey or abortion that Frances makes, he also talks about income inequality, climate change, and other issues that drive the right nuts and make them call him a librul Marxist.

A good point.


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