1 team_fukit  May 30, 2015 1:20:39am

latest Quinnipiac poll shows Bernie at 15% among Dems, +5 over any current candidate among Republicans.

Sure that’ll change among Repubs once the clown car population thins, but speaks to the idea that Bernie isn’t being taken seriously by the same media that follows Cruz, Rand, Fiorina, et. al. around.

2 subterraneanhomesickalien  May 30, 2015 6:20:56am

It is quite amazing that one man that subscribes to a politics that has been tried and tested successfully in Europe is basically referred to as a kook, while right-libertarians like Rand Paul, who have yet to have a single nation on earth actually be willing to take on the experiment, and full on falangists like Santorum who’s politics(right wing Catholicism) have been tested in Europe and South America to variously disastrous results receive nothing but respect from our “liberal media”.

End run-on sentence.

Well at least Santorum is willing to speak of the plight of labor in the United States. At least he isn’t a market and “free-trade” fanatic.

3 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 11:33:34am

I don’t agree with Bernie Sanders on everything - he’s an “audit the Fed” guy, for one thing. But I do like the fact that he’s totally upfront and unpolished. He’s a politician, but not a panderer.

4 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 11:38:56am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

At the very least he shows the value of a real primary. One that is not just shades of the same old same old. The quality of the result is usually connected to the quality of the process.

5 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:39:25am

Shucky ducky indeed Jon.

6 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:44:39am

I really take issue with the one hack who called him “the most unusual candidate in a long time.” The guy’s been a mayor, House member, and now Senator. It’s true he’s a self described socialist but he doesn’t believe in cuckoo conspiracy shit. He’s just an unabashed lefty. That doesn’t make him any different from the many “true conservatives” who constantly vie for the Republican nomination. I like Sanders quite a bit. I really hope he can positively influence the debate and I think he will.

7 Targetpractice  May 30, 2015 11:46:48am

While I think Jon has a great point about how we’ve gotten used to the idea of focus-tested and polished politicians, I think he sorta missed the bigger picture, which is the media’s effort to portray Sanders as a “loony” for the purposes of treating the things he has to talk about as “out there.” In the same week as the press was downplaying Sanders and acting like he was the second-coming of Vladimir Lenin, you had David Brooks on air sporting wood over George Pataki joining the race as a “moderate” Republican and calling Scott Walker and Marco Rubio “working class politicians.”

The “liberal media” seems to be settling on a narrative: If you like what Sanders has to say, you’re a socialist nutjob. But if you like what Scott Walker has to say, then you’re a good, well-balanced centrist who’s focused on what matters to the workin’ man.

8 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2015 11:49:16am

re: #4 Great White Snark

At the very least he shows the value of a real primary. One that is not just shades of the same old same old. The quality of the result is usually connected to the quality of the process.

On the other hand, a real primary tends to pull a candidate in the direction of their party base, which is leftwards for Democrats. Which means Hillary will likely have to do a “Race to the Center” in the spring of 2016. Her husband ran that race well, though no one watching him as he did it; Ross Perot being all the rage in the late spring of 1992.

9 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 11:49:20am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Shucky ducky indeed Jon.

Urban Dictionary:

Ahhh, shucky-ducky now!
A phrase used when you are running for the office of President of the United States of America and you wish to be immediatly disqualified.

10 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 11:50:04am

If only he had thick (well kept) luxurious hair, then he’d be serious.

11 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:50:40am

re: #7 Targetpractice

While I think Jon has a great point about how we’ve gotten used to the idea of focus-tested and polished politicians, I think he sorta missed the bigger picture, which is the media’s effort to portray Sanders as a “loony” for the purposes of treating the things he has to talk about as “out there.” In the same week as the press was downplaying Sanders and acting like he was the second-coming of Vladimir Lenin, you had David Brooks on air sporting wood over George Pataki joining the race as a “moderate” Republican and calling Scott Walker and Marco Rubio “working class politicians.”

The “liberal media” seems to be settling on a narrative: If you like what Sanders has to say, you’re a socialist nutjob. But if you like what Scott Walker has to say, then you’re a good, well-balanced centrist who’s focused on what matters to the workin’ man.

Damned good post. But yeah the media is a big part of the problem here. They like to create labels. It’s how Santorum even though he mocked the president for wanting higher education for all American children is made out to be a populist champion of working class people. How the aforementioned Walker who is nothing but a puppet of the Kochs is made out to be a champion of the working class. And I’m sure if it ever came down to Bush and Sanders in a GE, the media would try to paint Bush as a more regular guy even though Bernie’s upbringing has much more in common with the average American than Jeb whose political pedigree is amazing. But because Bernie’s an open socialist with a thick Brooklyn accent, he’s made out to be some oddity.

12 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:52:45am

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

On the other hand, a real primary tends to pull a candidate in the direction of their party base, which is leftwards for Democrats. Which means Hillary will likely have to do a “Race to the Center” in the spring of 2016. Her husband ran that race well, though no one watching him as he did it; Ross Perot being all the rage in the late spring of 1992.

Shrug, your party’s candidates have been doing that for some time now. Hillary won’t have to be repudiating herself the way Romney and to a smaller extent McCain did. And be well to be aware she’s going to have an opponent from the right if Webb runs too. Not sure if he’s still considering a run though.

13 Targetpractice  May 30, 2015 11:53:10am

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

On the other hand, a real primary tends to pull a candidate in the direction of their party base, which is leftwards for Democrats. Which means Hillary will likely have to do a “Race to the Center” in the spring of 2016. Her husband ran that race well, though no one watching him as he did it; Ross Perot being all the rage in the late spring of 1992.

Thing is, the center is not where it was in 1992. Socially, Hillary can take a pretty far lean into the “left” and still be close enough to the center to comfortably make the trip back. The GOP, meanwhile, is so far over the right edge that any run back to the center is obvious pandering.

14 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:53:11am

re: #9 A Cranky One

Urban Dictionary:

Ahhh, shucky-ducky now!
A phrase used when you are running for the office of President of the United States of America and you wish to be immediatly disqualified.

I still cannot believe his candidacy was real.

15 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 11:53:55am

We don’t need a clown car but a two-seater would be nice.

16 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:55:17am

re: #15 Amory Blaine

We don’t need a clown car but a two-seater would be nice.

I think it’s going to be a comfy family sedan. O’Malley and at least one other candidate in addition to HRC and Senator Sanders.

17 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 11:56:37am

I don’t understand at all why Webb is considering running though. He stepped down in 2012 because he was apparently bored with the Senate and didn’t seem to like politics much. Don’t know what he’s positioning himself for if anything since I doubt he’d be considered for Secretary of Defense or anything like that.

18 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2015 12:00:47pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

I think it’s going to be a comfy family sedan. O’Malley and at least one other candidate in addition to HRC and Senator Sanders.

Them make it a mini-bus. Turbo-electric driven, or course, in order to get environmentalist approval.

/For buses, small and large, turbo-electric is a viable option. So i was kidding, but not mocking.

19 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 12:03:29pm

Hah.

20 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 12:05:12pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Hah.

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I think I have more data then that in my work portfolio.

21 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 12:07:48pm

I like a lot of what BS (heh) is saying, but most of his appeal appears so far to be to the white hip crowd.

You can’t conflate the concerns of the white, educated middle class with those of poverty, of Black concerns, Immigrants, and the problems therein. It’s a different level of discourse. Not saying that the latter groups are not concerned with the issues he’s raising, but jobs and income concerns are very real when you’re trying to just survive.

It’s the economy, stupid, and specifically for working families who really are struggling now.

22 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 12:10:31pm

Shannon is just pathetic:

She has to go back to 2013 to find that nonsense (it’s sooo UpChuck…):
donotlink.com

And Allan is STILL around and UpChuck isn’t.
Too bad, so sad…

23 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 12:11:19pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I like a lot of what BS (heh) is saying, but most of his appeal appears so far to be to the white hip crowd.

You can’t conflate the concerns of the white, educated middle class with those of poverty, of Black concerns, Immigrants, and the problems therein. It’s a different level of discourse. Not saying that the latter groups are not concerned with the issues he’s raising, but jobs and income concerns are very real when you’re trying to just survive.

It’s the economy, stupid, and specifically for working families who really are struggling now.

I think you’re being unfair to him. I think he focuses on income inequality and poverty more than Clinton or O’Malley have. It’s true that the white educated middle class will probably be where he gets much of his support from but I really strongly disagree with you that he doesn’t speak to the concerns of racial minorities and poor people. I think he’s a much more credible voice on that subject given that he himself grew up a poor son of immigrants.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 12:12:36pm
25 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 12:17:03pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I just haven’t heard him saying anything of those concerns, though.

And I don’t think this speaks specifically to those, either. There are 10s of millions of people in this country who by any indicator would not be considered “middle class”.

He should elaborate on this, for instance: “…children go hungry, veterans sleep out on the streets and senior citizens cannot afford their prescription drugs…”

Other than that, nothing about what I mentioned on his website.

berniesanders.com

26 William Lewis  May 30, 2015 12:20:41pm

Thank God Bernie is running. It’s the only thing that gives me any hope for 2016.

Do not forget that FOX has dragged the Overton window so far to the right that Hillary can race to the Left drastically and _Still_ be more right wing than Nixon was economically and Eisenhower was socially.

Only with Bernie in will we have any chance to hear real ideas about how to combat the oligarchy and falangist darlings of the radically reactionary far far far right who run as “conservatives”. Burke would laugh in the face of Walker - someone who couldn’t even manage what Palin did in graduating from college - who does nothing but what he’s told to by his bosses in Kansas and lies like a rug every day of the week. Rand and Santorum are equally bad.

Bernie, at least, presents the hope of a new day rising out of the ongoing disaster for the middle class that has been happening since 1980 with the election of the worst President in American History.

I’ve paid my dues to the Democratic Socialists of America & gotten accepted as a member in the IWW & will be contributing to the Sanders campaign via bundling being done by the Liberal Gun Owners of America PAC. I will do everything I can in this election to give people a real alternative to the far right reactionaries trying to destroy America.

27 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 12:24:34pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

And please don’t get me wrong. I’m not ragging on him, but he’s going to have to be a lot more inclusive of who and what he talks about and attracts if he’s going have a better showing.

I adhere to socialist principles myself, but what he’s saying is not enough to convince people from all kinds of demographics to vote for him, no matter how well he articulates the positions he outlines on his website.

28 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 12:26:12pm

Gaaaahhhh! The one that looks like a giant spider. *shudder*

Video

29 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 12:26:46pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

I just haven’t heard him saying anything of those concerns, though.

And I don’t think this speaks specifically to those, either. There are 10s of millions of people in this country who by any indicator would not be considered “middle class”.

He should elaborate on this, for instance: “…children go hungry, veterans sleep out on the streets and senior citizens cannot afford their prescription drugs…”

Other than that, nothing about what I mentioned on his website.

berniesanders.com

I did look at his presidential candidacy website and I agree he could elaborate more on this but he did just launch his candidacy and I found plenty on his Senate website of him talking about these issues. On his front page no less is a video of him talking about making tuition affordable to all students. Now I agree with you he could work on communicating himself better but I really disagree that he’s only standing for issues that aren’t a concern to working class, racial minorities, and immigrants. I think he’s done it far more than Hillary and O’Malley.

30 Nyet  May 30, 2015 12:29:14pm

Shucky ducky! Shoggy doggy! Kitties need not apply.

31 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 12:33:58pm

re: #26 William Lewis

Thank God Bernie is running. It’s the only thing that gives me any hope for 2016.

Do not forget that FOX has dragged the Overton window so far to the right that Hillary can race to the Left drastically and _Still_ be more right wing than Nixon was economically and Eisenhower was socially.

Only with Bernie in will we have any chance to hear real ideas about how to combat the oligarchy and falangist darlings of the radically reactionary far far far right who run as “conservatives”. Burke would laugh in the face of Walker - someone who couldn’t even manage what Palin did in graduating from college - who does nothing but what he’s told to by his bosses in Kansas and lies like a rug every day of the week. Rand and Santorum are equally bad.

Bernie, at least, presents the hope of a new day rising out of the ongoing disaster for the middle class that has been happening since 1980 with the election of the worst President in American History.

I’ve paid my dues to the Democratic Socialists of America & gotten accepted as a member in the IWW & will be contributing to the Sanders campaign via bundling being done by the Liberal Gun Owners of America PAC. I will do everything I can in this election to give people a real alternative to the far right reactionaries trying to destroy America.

I think why Bernie has gotten a lot of support from the left is that he’s been not only a consistent but a strong voice. I have no idea what kind of president he’s make but I am glad he is at least forcing a conversation that I don’t think would otherwise happen if he did not run.

32 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 12:36:41pm

Gus’ tweet in Rawstory

33 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 12:38:50pm

re: #32 #FergusonFireside

Gus’ tweet in Rawstory

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I see Mr. Support Your Local White Boy made the frontpage. Fucking Nazi piece of shit.

34 freetoken  May 30, 2015 12:45:44pm

re: #10 Amory Blaine

If only he had thick (well kept) luxurious hair, then he’d be serious.

You may mean that humorously, but there is more truth there than we’d like.

We vote with our eyes as much as anything else. If we like what we see, we like it.

35 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 12:46:43pm

Seriously!

36 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 12:48:58pm
37 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 12:49:47pm
38 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 12:50:10pm
39 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 12:51:10pm

Got into a Twitter fight with Infowars headcase Paul Joseph Watson this morning.

40 Frenchy  May 30, 2015 12:53:47pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

This is what passes for thoughtful analysis these days. Good lord.

41 Frenchy  May 30, 2015 12:55:29pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Gee that sort of makes it sound like the Clinton impeachment was just one big farce.

42 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 12:57:34pm
43 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 12:58:26pm

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 12:59:27pm

UpChuck blocks anyone who disagrees with him.

45 freetoken  May 30, 2015 1:02:37pm

Sanctity of Marriage rally today drew vocal supporters of biblically-defined marriage

[…]

Dr. Tom Ford, a spokesperson for Alabama For Marriage, traveled from Montgomery with members of his family.

“Marriage is between a man and a woman,” said Ford. “To call it anything else is to call a circle a square.”

He said one problem was that Christians themselves have been desecrating the institution of marriage and turning away from traditional gender roles and gender identity.

“We’re equal, but we’re not the same,” he said.

“If we want to see our nation blessed, we have to obey God and do what’s right in his eyes,” said Ford’s daughter, Maggie, 17, who attended the rally.

[…]

Women, know your place!

46 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 1:02:57pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck blocks anyone who disagrees with him.

Just wait and see what happens when chuck gores a favorite Derbyshire Ox so to speak.

47 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 1:04:43pm

Yikes.

48 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 1:07:38pm

re: #46 Great White Snark

Just wait and see what happens when chuck gores a favorite Derbyshire Ox so to speak.

I get the feeling that he cares for all of Derbyshire’s livestock (so to speak) with kid gloves.

49 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:07:48pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wonder what Dersh thinks about Chuckles’ friend whose only beef with Holocaust denial is that it denies a good man his high score.

50 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:08:52pm

re: #45 freetoken

Sanctity of Marriage rally today drew vocal supporters of biblically-defined marriage

Women, know your place!

Oh for fuck sake enter the 21st century already.

51 Targetpractice  May 30, 2015 1:09:00pm

re: #41 Frenchy

Gee that sort of makes it sound like the Clinton impeachment was just one big farce.

It was, from start to finish. Ken Starr got ran over the coals by Barney Frank for failure to substantiate any of the “scandals” that he was tasked to investigate after his predecessor had been shit-canned for having the gall to tell Republicans there was nothing to the very same allegations. It’s what made the whole thing such a joke, that at the same time Gingrich was leading the inquisition over the President’s consensual blowjob, he himself was seeing a mistress while his wife was in the hospital.

52 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:09:15pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dershowitz is becoming more and more of a serious crank. I lost all respect for him when he wrote that ludicrous piece advocating for the idea of torture warrants. He also thinks the Hastert prosecution is a sham.

“This case just smells,” Dershowitz said. “I’m shocked that a prosecutor would allow this kind of case to be brought knowing that it will reveal the secrets, that it would open doors up to things that are alleged or have occurred almost half a century ago. … This is not a case that should’ve been brought in federal court”

Hastert lied to federal investigators, end of story.

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 1:10:00pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

Yikes.

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Saw that yesterday. Yowser that the shooter hasn’t been found yet.

54 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 1:10:44pm

Kinda OT but irresistible for poignancy

55 The Ghost of a Flea  May 30, 2015 1:10:47pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Traditional marriage is between a man and another man who has a daughter.

(drops mike, signs off)

56 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:11:20pm

re: #54 Great White Snark

Kinda OT but irresistible for poignancy

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Rest in Peace, Cpl Khan.

57 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 1:11:38pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ah, so if I light up a cigarette in a no-smoking restaurant and am asked to leave, it’s CENSORSHIP. Good to know.

58 bratwurst  May 30, 2015 1:12:10pm

Glad Reason magazine is maintaining its perfect record of never being right about anything.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 1:12:43pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

things that are alleged or have occurred almost half a century ago. …

Half a Century Ago, people!11!!
Get over it already!!11!!
What’s Done is Done!!11!!
Old News!!11!!!

How many canards did I miss?

60 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:12:55pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

Dershowitz is becoming more and more of a serious crank. I lost all respect for him when he wrote that ludicrous piece advocating for the idea of torture warrants. He also thinks the Hastert prosecution is a sham.

Hastert lied to federal investigators, end of story.

I wish there was a better word than contrarian for people like this.

61 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:13:13pm

re: #58 bratwurst

Glad Reason magazine is maintaining its perfect record of never being right about anything.

What are they babbling on about?

62 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:14:02pm

If Dershowitz was actually paying attention, he’d know that the alleged crime has no stature of limitations so merely dismissing it as a half of century ago is just shitty on his part.

63 freetoken  May 30, 2015 1:14:18pm

re: #58 bratwurst

Did you know that “Reason” is an anagram for “A Snore”?

64 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 1:14:40pm

He’s been tweeting pics like this all day, from all over Venezuela.

65 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 1:15:03pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Half a Century Ago, people!11!!
Get over it already!!11!!
What’s Done is Done!!11!!
Old News!!11!!!

How many canards did I miss?

He’s repented.
God has already forgiven him.
He’s a good man.
It’s an evil left-wing witch hunt!!

66 freetoken  May 30, 2015 1:15:18pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Just as importantly, if Hastert was paying hush money while he was in office then that means Hastert was subject to manipulation while an elected official.

67 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:15:31pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

It was, from start to finish. Ken Starr got ran over the coals by Barney Frank for failure to substantiate any of the “scandals” that he was tasked to investigate after his predecessor had been shit-canned for having the gall to tell Republicans there was nothing to the very same allegations. It’s what made the whole thing such a joke, that at the same time Gingrich was leading the inquisition over the President’s consensual blowjob, he himself was seeing a mistress while his wife was in the hospital.

That would be Callista who is 23 years younger. She of the blonde helmet hair.

68 bratwurst  May 30, 2015 1:18:45pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

What are they babbling on about?

69 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:19:07pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I wish there was a better word than contrarian for people like this.

Asshole?

70 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 30, 2015 1:20:47pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

I think it’s going to be a comfy family sedan. O’Malley and at least one other candidate in addition to HRC and Senator Sanders.

It’ll be a ‘69 VW Beetle if it’s anything. //

71 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:20:52pm

re: #68 bratwurst

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Uh yeah. They’re ignoring that the mosque protesters and their supporters are protesting the very right of American Muslims to have 1st amendment rights.

72 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:21:16pm

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

Asshole?

Works.

73 SteelPH  May 30, 2015 1:22:38pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I wish there was a better word than contrarian for people like this.

Killgore Trout.
//

74 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 1:22:47pm

re: #70 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

It’ll be a ‘69 VW Beetle if it’s anything. //

How bout a Westie?

75 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:25:09pm

I wonder how a protest of a Christian community center with a draw Jesus contest by Arab-Americans with guns would go over. Hmmmm

76 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:27:07pm

re: #68 bratwurst

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America is apparently all about armed racist shit heads whipping up pointless drama.

77 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 30, 2015 1:27:12pm

re: #74 #FergusonFireside

How bout a Westie?

Done!

78 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:27:21pm

Football.

79 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 1:28:03pm
80 stpaulbear  May 30, 2015 1:29:27pm

re: #74 #FergusonFireside

How bout a Westie?

How about a 1965 Dodge Dart?

It’s so American.

81 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:31:52pm

Including Austin.

Rain pushing into parts of Central Texas; flooding possible - @statesman

statesman.com

82 William Lewis  May 30, 2015 1:32:09pm

re: #78 Justanotherhuman

REAL football. Gooooo Gooners!

83 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:32:41pm
84 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 30, 2015 1:33:25pm
Hell no, we won’t go!
85 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:34:29pm

re: #84 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

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If you’re going to Philadelphia, be sure to wear some donkey ears.

86 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 1:40:59pm

About Phoenix:

87 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:41:45pm

Hah.

88 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:43:05pm

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

Hah.

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I think so. Not one conservative called Josh a thug that’s for sure.

89 sagehen  May 30, 2015 1:43:45pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

If you’re going to Philadelphia, be sure to wear some donkey ears.

And if you’re going to San Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.

90 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:43:46pm
91 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:44:16pm
92 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 1:45:27pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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Heh yeah.

93 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:48:16pm

Heh. Has anyone called James Holmes a thug yet?

94 Belafon  May 30, 2015 1:49:34pm

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

In Republican eyes, only one of those involved damaging someone else’s property.

95 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 1:54:05pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

Actually, that racist nonsense matches well with significant parts of US history.

However, it is a poor match for present-day US ideals.

96 Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2015 1:54:24pm

So, I’ve stepped away from politics today to watch movies.

Gene Hackman’s greatest film?

The Conversation or The French Connection?

Me? I’m leaning toward The Conversation - it’s certainly Francis Ford Coppola’s best film. But Hackman’s performance in that film was a tour de force performance, a masterpiece of restraint, with a strong supporting cast including the late John Cazale (who left us too soon) and Harrison Ford.

97 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:56:31pm

That image of the guy with the AK and the *Something* Hearts video game key-blade still haunts me. Don’t even know where to start with that kind of shit.

98 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 1:57:03pm
99 blueraven  May 30, 2015 1:58:41pm

Ha! Just did a poll for YouGov.

One question was:

Please give a one word description for Rick Santorum.

They are asking for it! And yes, I gave it to them.

100 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 1:59:51pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

That image of the guy with the AK and the *Something* Hearts video game key-blade still haunts me. Don’t even know where to start with that kind of shit.

I mean the clown in this photo.

101 stpaulbear  May 30, 2015 2:01:20pm

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Gene Hackman’s greatest film?

The Conversation or The French Connection?

It sure as hell wasn’t The Posiedon Adventure.

102 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:03:15pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Common Americanus Sociopathus.

103 blueraven  May 30, 2015 2:04:52pm

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

So, I’ve stepped away from politics today to watch movies.

Gene Hackman’s greatest film?

The Conversation or The French Connection?

Me? I’m leaning toward The Conversation - it’s certainly Francis Ford Coppola’s best film. But Hackman’s performance in that film was a tour de force performance, a masterpiece of restraint, with a strong supporting cast including the late John Cazale (who left us too soon) and Harrison Ford.

Wait a minute…I love both of those movies but The Conversation better than The Godfather?

I would have to disagree with that.

104 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 2:05:42pm

re: #102 Justanotherhuman

Common Americanus Sociopathus.

Uncommon sociopath, I think. There’s just no rational explanation for this.

105 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 2:08:08pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

I mean the clown in this photo.

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What are “islams”? //

106 freetoken  May 30, 2015 2:08:30pm

re: #104 EPR-radar

Looking at that image I wonder if it is a still from a new type of shock porn movie.

107 Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2015 2:09:52pm

re: #103 blueraven

Wait a minute…I love both of those movies but The Conversation better than The Godfather?

I would have to disagree with that.

The Godfather I/II are extraordinary films, no doubt about it, but I’d rank The Conversation as their equal. It’s very underrated, and I can’t help but think that such a film would likely not be made today.

Not enough explosions, boobs, CGI sharks with chainsaws or something like that. Just a quiet little film about guilt and paranoia.

I believe Coppola himself said he considered The Conversation his best film.

108 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 2:11:41pm

re: #106 freetoken

Looking at that image I wonder if it is a still from a new type of shock porn movie.

I don’t know. The juxtaposition of a cosplay fantasy weapon (the Keyblade) and a real weapon (the gun) is just baffling. The tattoo is the only other possible clue as to what is going on, but I can’t get any meaning from it.

109 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 2:13:26pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

I don’t know. The juxtaposition of a cosplay fantasy weapon (the Keyblade) and a real weapon (the gun) is just baffling. The tattoo is the only other possible clue as to what is going on, but I can’t get any meaning from it.

Meh. you are trying too hard, Just Another Ugly Hater Selfie.

110 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 2:15:07pm

That whole thing yesterday, it was bizarre: The buildup, the satellite TV trucks, the breathless MSM coverage, then the letdown when there was no blood or dead bodies.

It was like some kind of new, extra fucked-up reality show—better than the scripted ones on TV because viewers might get to see real people bleed and/or die in real time. It was more than a little disturbing.

111 Belafon  May 30, 2015 2:15:16pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

What are “islams”? //

An i-slam is a derogatory comment made on an iPhone

112 ObserverArt  May 30, 2015 2:18:02pm

Oooo…severe thunderstorm warnings for Columbus. Cable TV is already gone and the digital antenna I am using for local coverage in the meantime is breaking up.

Oh well. Still have the ‘net going through Uvers.

113 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 2:20:05pm

re: #110 CuriousLurker

That whole thing yesterday, it was bizarre: The buildup, the satellite TV trucks, the breathless MSM coverage, then the letdown when there was no blood or dead bodies.

It was like some kind of new, extra fucked-up reality show—better than the scripted ones on TV because viewers might get to see real people bleed and/or die in real time. It was more than a little disturbing.

No honest protest needs to be an armed protest. not here in this country. Even the freaking Klan marches unarmed. The lack of widespread outrage is deeply embarrassing.

114 Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2015 2:21:45pm

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

[Embedded content]

the camo-kid at the left of the top left photo looks like he’s about 15. Home-schooled perhaps? Militia do-it-yourself ROTC?

115 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 2:22:02pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

I hope you have really good UPS/spike protection on your gear. We get lightning I unplug it. I don’t trust the UPS.

116 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:22:08pm

Half-term, worst-governor-ever says whut?

Former Alaska Gov. Palin rips Martin O’Malley as ‘anti-freedom’ candidate - @thehill

thehill.com

Pssst! Pro-tip: No one’s going to send you money to open your pie-hole this time around, so shut it.

117 ObserverArt  May 30, 2015 2:23:29pm

re: #113 Great White Snark

No honest protest needs to be an armed protest. not here in this country. Even the freaking Klan marches unarmed. The lack of widespread outrage is deeply embarrassing.

It just means that having guns involved in everything daily is now going to be accepted.

And that is sad and will prove to be more and more dangerous. But hey…freedom.

And not being a gun owner, I am worried about my freedom. But then again, non-gun owner, I get no freedom from guns everywhere.

118 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:27:20pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

the camo-kid at the left of the top left photo looks like he’s about 15. Home-schooled perhaps? Militia do-it-yourself ROTC?

Daddy dearest, no doubt at lower right. Straight from the Army surplus store.

119 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 2:27:23pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the charges against Hastert based on recent (4 years ago or so) series of structured cash transactions to avoid federal reporting requirements, and not the sex issue?

That and the fact that he lied to federal investigator about it. The parts in the indictment about the past events was simply establishing the framework for the money laundering element.

RBS

120 ObserverArt  May 30, 2015 2:27:29pm

re: #115 Great White Snark

I hope you have really good UPS/spike protection on your gear. We get lightning I unplug it. I don’t trust the UPS.

Yeah, I have protection, but when it gets real crazy I power down and unplug too.

This looks to be breaking up as hit hits the central city. Not crazy yet.

121 otoc  May 30, 2015 2:28:12pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck blocks anyone who disagrees with him.

True dat. He blocked me a long time ago for repeatedly asking him to explain how he ‘saved lives’ by exposing the name of a known Ebola patient. I was very careful to be extremely civil during my test of his metal. Funny how his answer was to stop the exchange and block.
Dershowitz only shows his ignorance by supporting the troll. I guess we can all yell fire in a movie theater with his logic.

122 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:32:02pm
123 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 2:33:22pm

I enjoyed season 1 of Mozart in the Jungle only to find out season 2 isn’t coming out until 2016.
Noooooo……

124 bratwurst  May 30, 2015 2:34:42pm

Uh oh…a new Twitter kerfuffle is being born:

125 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 2:35:40pm

I don’t think I posted this here, but if I did I apologize for boring you with it again. For me, the guy in the background was perfectly emblematic of the attitudes yesterday. Be sure to click on the photo so you can get the larger version. I’ve encountered that sneer more times than I care to remember:

126 ObserverArt  May 30, 2015 2:36:06pm

And there went a big crack of lightening. Later…shut down!

127 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 2:37:55pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

Stop coddling your electronics!
//

128 Kid A  May 30, 2015 2:39:08pm
129 Kid A  May 30, 2015 2:39:55pm
130 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 2:43:07pm

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

So, I’ve stepped away from politics today to watch movies.

Gene Hackman’s greatest film?

The Conversation or The French Connection?

Me? I’m leaning toward The Conversation - it’s certainly Francis Ford Coppola’s best film. But Hackman’s performance in that film was a tour de force performance, a masterpiece of restraint, with a strong supporting cast including the late John Cazale (who left us too soon) and Harrison Ford.

Oh yeah…The French Connection.

131 jaunte  May 30, 2015 2:43:50pm

re: #129 Kid A

“second amendment interests”

His probably don’t include signing up for a “well-regulated militia” overseen by the government.

132 Nyet  May 30, 2015 2:44:00pm

For those who missed it: Kung Fury. (Warning: plenty of gore.)

…

133 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:49:53pm

re: #124 bratwurst

She left almost nothing below the waist to the imagination at the CPAC convention when she wore this lace-trimmed slip for a skirt.

134 Mentis Fugit  May 30, 2015 2:50:52pm

re: #45 freetoken

Women, know your place!

…

135 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 2:52:14pm

re: #110 CuriousLurker

That whole thing yesterday, it was bizarre: The buildup, the satellite TV trucks, the breathless MSM coverage, then the letdown when there was no blood or dead bodies.

It was like some kind of new, extra fucked-up reality show—better than the scripted ones on TV because viewers might get to see real people bleed and/or die in real time. It was more than a little disturbing.

But the outcome is close to best-case. A decent group of the sane turned out, the cops did real cop things, and the nutjobs covered themselves in shit for all to see.

136 BigPapa  May 30, 2015 2:53:04pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Stop coddling your electronics!
//

What doesn’t kill them makes them stronger!

137 Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2015 2:53:17pm

And with that, goodnight, Lizards.

138 Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2015 2:54:47pm

Public health officials and researchers have paid considerable attention to the specific health issues of women and minorities, and justifiably so.

I believe, howver, that President Obama should now order the CDC to initiate a crash, Manhattan Project style program to investigate and eradicate two deadly but apparently related epidemics that have raged unchecked through large segments of the white population in recent years:

-The catastrophic decline in penis size that has caused millions of confused, humiliated, suffering men to seek compensation in firearms, giant 4x4 pickups, and American Sniper dress-up games.
-The outbreak of national amnesia that has caused a similar, indeed closely congruent, segment to forget that presidential executive orders, military exercises, and government ammunition purchases all occurred under previous presidents and do not necessarily represent anything new and sinister.

Some preliminary research suggests that these ghastly afflictions may be behavior-driven, since they seem to be much less common among better educated and more stable elements of the affected demographic.

139 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 2:55:49pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

But the outcome is close to best-case. A decent group of the sane turned out, the cops did real cop things, and the nutjobs covered themselves in shit for all to see.

True.

And on that note, I’ll leave you guys with one of my favorite tweets from last night. The sarcasm made me LOL even though I was stressed:

G’nite, lizards. ;-)

140 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 2:59:54pm

Will it never end?

Bulverde, Texas, reports more than 2 inches of rain fell in 90 minutes - @statesman

statesman.com

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 3:03:00pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

It just means that having guns involved in everything daily is now going to be accepted.

And that is sad and will prove to be more and more dangerous. But hey…freedom.

And not being a gun owner, I am worried about my freedom. But then again, non-gun owner, I get no freedom from guns everywhere.

I’m a gunowner (and a biker) and would NEVER even THINK about doing what those asshats did in Phoenix.
It was out and out small-dick bullies terrorizing people they didn’t like.
And those assholes dressed up like soldiers are beyond contempt in my eyes.

142 De Kolta Chair  May 30, 2015 3:13:58pm

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

So, I’ve stepped away from politics today to watch movies.

Gene Hackman’s greatest film?

I’m going to go with The French Connection.

The Package (1989) is a guilty pleasure of mine, mostly because of some fun interplay between Hackman and Joanna Cassidy. A forgettable thriller which I’ve watched at least 15 times.

143 Kryptik  May 30, 2015 3:16:10pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

It just means that having guns involved in everything daily is now going to be accepted.

And that is sad and will prove to be more and more dangerous. But hey…freedom.

And not being a gun owner, I am worried about my freedom. But then again, non-gun owner, I get no freedom from guns everywhere.

There seems to be the infinitely growing strain in America that literally believes that there is absolutely no safety without guns, and if someplace or someone doesn’t have a gun present at all times, it’s asking for murderous intentions descending upon them at any moment. That’s what you see when you have gun-nuts proclaim gun-free zones as ‘death zones’ and act like they’re the absolute proof that anyone who supports gun-control just wants people culled and killed because they hate god and America and all things good.

The problem is that these people are WINNING, and it’s not even close. Gun Control is a dead issue for at least a generation, and it fucking depresses me. It feels like any attempt to bring up the insanity of our gun culture and even tepid suggestions for regulation simply ends up with the NRA and gun nuts winning more and more and even more because America doesn’t want to hear it, that most of America seems to literally believe the slippery slope far as gun control and HOLY SHIT, IT”S THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THE DIRTY LIBBY LIBS FROM SLAUGHTERING US WITH THEIR THUG PATROLS.

144 Eric The Fruit Bat  May 30, 2015 5:29:13pm

re: #121 otoc

You’re assuming he’s supporting the troll. So far I have yet to see any proof Daesh Dersh made the statement the Rage Furby claims he made.

145 Irving  May 30, 2015 6:35:07pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

…a keyblade?!? Seriously?
…

146 subterraneanhomesickalien  May 30, 2015 7:00:18pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Looks like he likes to play that Kingdom Hearts.

147 otoc  May 31, 2015 7:24:29am

re: #144 Eric The Fruit Bat

That is also true…


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