A New Song From Tom Waits: “Take One Last Look”

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A beautiful new song by Tom Waits, from David Letterman’s final week. I love how the rhythm never settles into a real “beat” in this; it’s a loose, drifting performance with a moving lyric.

Let’s watch the sun come up in another town
Try our luck a little further down
Leave the cards on the table
Leave the bread on the plate
Put your hand on the gear shift
Put your foot off the brake

And take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look
Oh, take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look

Our bed was something that the wind couldn’t carry
The arrow points the way across the waiting prairie
This car looks like it could give us a good run
Our choice to leave was a good one

And take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look
Oh, take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look

Let’s look forward to the lights that are new
The world’s a ribbon of road for you
All towns have churches and tire shops
They put up speed limit signs and they hire cops
I love to see the wind in your hair
All we ever need we can get anywhere

And take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look
Oh, take one last look at the place that you are leaving
Take one last look
Oh, take one last look
Oh, take one last look

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183 comments
1 Belafon  May 30, 2015 3:12:06pm

Clicking on something and then clicking on something else led me to this: upworthy.com.
I’m becoming a big Mark Ruffalo fan, not only because of his acting but his activism.

2 Nyet  May 30, 2015 3:24:22pm

“soaked in a vat of bourbon, left hanging in the smokehouse for a few months, and then taken outside and run over with a car”

3 freetoken  May 30, 2015 3:28:22pm

When I read the following headline I thought of you-know-who:

‘Devious Defecator’ Case Tests Genetics Law

It’s actually an interesting story related to the exploitation of GINA.

4 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 3:30:22pm
5 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 3:32:25pm

Meanwhile, @GoKaboom11, who I suspect was a Chuck Johnson sock, has vanished from Twitter.

6 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 3:33:21pm

Roger Ebert was an amazing man. *weep*

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 3:33:47pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, @GoKaboom11, who I suspect was a Chuck Johnson sock, has vanished from Twitter.

I’m shocked.
SHOCKED!!!!

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 3:35:44pm
9 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2015 3:37:01pm

re: #3 freetoken

When I read the following headline I thought of you-know-who:

‘Devious Defecator’ Case Tests Genetics Law

It’s actually an interesting story related to the exploitation of GINA.

I knew from the headline it wasn’t about Chuckles, since he’s too pig-headed and obnoxious to be devious.

10 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 3:41:37pm

Great tune. He’s a great songwriter and can really convey an emotion in the words, but I don’t think anybody will ever list him in the “great voices” collection. :)

After the earlier fiasco with “Saucepan Pizza”, I’m trying a St. Louis (Imo’s) style pizza tonight. A very thin crust, no yeast or rising (a little bit of baking powder provides the leavening). I probably didn’t roll the crust out thin enough to be truely authentic, but it’s on the pizza stone, and I’ll have a report in a few minutes…

RBS

11 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 3:44:14pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m shocked.
SHOCKED!!!!

Interestingly, though, the error message from Twitter is “that user does not exist,” not “that user is suspended.” That means he may have just changed the username.

12 Kid A  May 30, 2015 3:53:07pm
13 Dr. Matt  May 30, 2015 3:54:15pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Interestingly, though, the error message from Twitter is “that user does not exist,” not “that user is suspended.” That means he may have just changed the username.

I have not doubt it was Chuck. When I tweeted…

…the person at the account was claiming I was involved in “targeted harassment”, i.e., just like Chuck always did.

14 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 3:55:34pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Interestingly, though, the error message from Twitter is “that user does not exist,” not “that user is suspended.” That means he may have just changed the username.

If they did they deleted all their tweets too. Twitter Advanced Search continues to return results from old names after a name switch.

15 allegro  May 30, 2015 3:58:53pm

It has been raining real hard and the gutters are filling already. The teevee weather guy sez the big storm is coming later. =-0

Whee.

16 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:00:32pm

Next thing you know, Upchuck will be blaming a lack of his “1st Amendment rights” for the breakup of his marriage.

“She told me to shut up. She can’t silence me, I know my 1st Amendment rights.”

“I’m a top journalist with an IQ of 158. She’ll have to pay me alimony for that since I brought it into the marriage. And she makes all the money.”

17 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:01:47pm

What can possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate green-lights concealed handguns on college campuses; bill now heads to House - @NBCDFW
read more on nbcdfw.com

18 Dr. Matt  May 30, 2015 4:02:01pm

Chuck will likely slip the cracks and obtain another sock puppet account, but since his entire “business model” relies on his identity, a sock puppet will never be effective.

19 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 4:02:47pm

Fresno always makes me think of raisins. And a play at Fresno State that my boy friend’s brother was in, in drag.

20 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:02:53pm
21 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2015 4:03:03pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

Chuck will likely slip the cracks and obtain another sock puppet account, but since his entire “business model” relies on his identity, a sock puppet will never be effective.

Well, my heart bleeds for him.

22 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:03:09pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ms. Packnett was one of the organizers/speakers at the Ferguson Fireside chats. Along with Deray, Netta & Wyzechef. Amazingly brilliant woman, she planned it & held the flow.

Those chats were incredible. Using the power of twitter to gather a huge group of people on a conference call basically. Their power and strength of purpose was inspiring.

23 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:03:37pm

re: #15 allegro

It has been raining real hard and the gutters are filling already. The teevee weather guy sez the big storm is coming later. =-0

Whee.

We just had a little front push through, really hard rain for maybe 15 minutes, very strong straight winds. I was coming back from a grocery run, and the cross wind was pushing my Impala back and forth pretty good.

Allegro, if you’re in Texas, I’m feeling for you. Looks like a front from Nuevdo Larado all the way to Houston. Don’t worry, it’s not climate change, is caused by the fact that Texas is overrun with pagans, homosexuals and atheists. (according to one of the RWNJ Pastors).

RBS

24 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:03:59pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

If they did they deleted all their tweets too. Twitter Advanced Search continues to return results from old names after a name switch.

May have deleted the account then.

25 Kid A  May 30, 2015 4:04:07pm

re: #16 Justanotherhuman

“And she’s Asian and she’s hot in case I’ve never mentioned it before.”

26 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:04:38pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

Chuck will likely slip the cracks and obtain another sock puppet account, but since his entire “business model” relies on his identity, a sock puppet will never be effective.

His ego is also incompatible with staying under cover. He needs recognition. That’s why this is driving him into a total rage.

27 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:05:39pm

re: #15 allegro

It has been raining real hard and the gutters are filling already. The teevee weather guy sez the big storm is coming later. =-0

Whee.

Hold tight.

28 Belafon  May 30, 2015 4:06:33pm

re: #23 RealityBasedSteve

We just had a little front push through, really hard rain for maybe 15 minutes, very strong straight winds. I was coming back from a grocery run, and the cross wind was pushing my Impala back and forth pretty good.

Allegro, if you’re in Texas, I’m feeling for you. Looks like a front from Nuevdo Larado all the way to Houston. Don’t worry, it’s not climate change, is caused by the fact that Texas is overrun with pagans, homosexuals and atheists. (according to one of the RWNJ Pastors).

RBS

I’m pretty sure it’s because the state keeps trying to ban gay marriage. Why would Ireland get rainbows otherwise.

29 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:06:38pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

His ego is also incompatible with staying under cover. He needs recognition. That’s why this is driving him into a total rage.

A “Stealth upChuck” is an oxymoron. He is the “Leroy Jenkins” of Twitter.

RBS

30 freetoken  May 30, 2015 4:06:40pm

I’ve long given up on the idea that popular media will present science research in a way that is both accurate and understandable. Occasionally I may be surprised by a story here or there but my pessimism is usually shown to be warranted.

Case in point - the following comments on a story that represent the gist of the entire set of comments:

BRAZILIANOIII 2 days ago
.
Nobody can prove that!!! the African NEVER emigrates
from the continent.
.
The idea of (afros going to euro) is more a racist one…(because there are chimps and blacks there…)
.
Morally repulsive.

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APOCALYPSE NOW 2 days ago
“Early humans migrated out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago”

And in that short period (in evolutionary terms) changed from being dense-boned, black-skinned people with frizzy hair, dark eyes, flattened noses, thick lips to what we are today. You can believe the myth if you like. Personally I believe Adam and Eve is a more believable story.

Anyway, those are two comments from this story:

Early humans migrated out of Africa through Egypt rather than Ethiopia, new study says

Now there were comments not so ugly, just ignorant of what the study actually says. An example:

ASIM 1 days ago
It is ridiculous by taking less than 300 samples from Egypt and Ethiopia and compare their sequences to a pool of people from several European and Asian countries you have the nerve to conclude I found it.
To rule out which one was the route you needed to take also samples from Southern Arabian peninsula like Yemen or Oman and compare its similarities distance with Ethiopians and Europeans to that ones of Egyptians.
What about native Americans are they coming from the heavens?
This is can be called anything except science.

——

ELDAD 2 days ago
How about this? Those who live in todays’s Egypt have migrated from the Levant and also the Arabian peninsula. This was a modern day migration. Therefore you can not rewrite such basic fact based on this

The reason those two commenters are mislead is because the Independent article left out very important parts of the research.

Here’s the actual scientific paper:

Tracing the Route of Modern Humans out of Africa by Using 225 Human Genome Sequences from Ethiopians and Egyptians

It’s open access so you can read it for yourself (something completely missing from the Independent article, btw.)

Here are some important bits:

[…] Thus, the available evidence remains inconclusive. Information to discriminate between the northern and southern routes might still be present in Africa within the full genomes of the populations inhabiting modern Egypt and the Horn of Africa, and thus further investigation is warranted. However, although it might not be easy to extract this information because of the past and recent genetic introgression experienced by these populations,13, 14 full sequences of Northeast African genomes would provide the best starting point for these and other analyses.

The researchers are quite aware of the population flows back into Africa. If only the Independent would have included that some of those readers wouldn’t have made the silly comments they did. Going on:

[…] We restricted this comparison to 18,114 genomic regions (spanning a total length of 7.1 Mb; Figure S5) containing haplotypes shared by Europeans and Asians because these were likely to predate the split between these populations.

Because of the backflow into Africa, and the need to discriminate Ethiopians from other Africans, the researchers found they could use only a tiny bit of the human genome, 7.1 million base pairs, compared to over 3 billion base pairs in the entire genome.

The researchers were looking for the remnant African DNA in the current Egyptian population, a remnant which turns out to be only a small fraction of the current Egyptians’ genomes:

Using ADMIXTURE17 and principal-component analysis (PCA)18 (Figure 1A), we estimated the average proportion of non-African ancestry in the Egyptians to be 80% and dated the midpoint of the admixture event by using ALDER20 to around 750 years ago (Table S2), consistent with the Islamic expansion and dates reported previously.

If only the Independent had included the actual research in the article then at least some of their commenters wouldn’t have made silly comments. (The racists will always be there.)

Finally, the researchers are also aware of what could nullify their conclusions, such as future discoveries of ancient DNA samples, or evidence that there were additionally population movements that replaced populations in along the Nile between the time of the first OOA pulse of modern humans and the rise of Egyptian civilization.

This long diatribe is just to point out how, even a semi-serious news outlet, running a story which in length is more than just a short blurb, can fail so spectacularly at communicating the actual research.

There are many stories being sold on this research, some more ludicrous than others.

31 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:07:17pm

Flood water in Houston’s Minute Maid Park

instagram.com

“I don’t think this is supposed to happen inside the stadium.”

32 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:08:02pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

May have deleted the account then.

Start account, tweet for a while. Delete.

Rinse & repeat.

His ego thinks he’s outrunning them.

He’s just wasting a shitload of time.

33 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:09:21pm

3 typos one post. man.

34 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:09:40pm

Chuck is such a raging out of control narcissist, even if he does register another account it won’t be long before he reveals himself. He can’t help it. He has to come out and boast about it because that’s how he is.

35 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:10:37pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

Flood water in Houston’s Minute Maid Park

instagram.com

“I don’t think this is supposed to happen inside the stadium.”

One time it pays to have “Bob Uecker” seats

36 GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2015 4:10:51pm

re: #32 #FergusonFireside

Not like he has a job or life to preoccupy him.

37 allegro  May 30, 2015 4:10:56pm

re: #23 RealityBasedSteve

We just had a little front push through, really hard rain for maybe 15 minutes, very strong straight winds. I was coming back from a grocery run, and the cross wind was pushing my Impala back and forth pretty good.

Allegro, if you’re in Texas, I’m feeling for you. Looks like a front from Nuevdo Larado all the way to Houston. Don’t worry, it’s not climate change, is caused by the fact that Texas is overrun with pagans, homosexuals and atheists. (according to one of the RWNJ Pastors).

RBS

Yup, I’m in SW commie Houston with a third term lesbian mayor who won every one of her elections with huge majorities. It’s gotta be that.

38 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 4:11:18pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Chuck is such a raging out of control narcissist, even if he does register another account it won’t be long before he reveals himself. He can’t help it. He has to come out and boast about it because that’s how he is.

And each time, he starts from zero on followers, which is also a very important metric to him. Heh.

39 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:11:37pm

Don’t forget, Chuck had something like 26,000 followers when he was booted. That’s why he’s trying everything to get his old account back. He doesn’t want to start from scratch again even if he could. It took time for him to get all those followers, and he blew it all with one stupid tweet.

40 freetoken  May 30, 2015 4:12:46pm

It’s both interesting and depressing that when an article delves into human evolution that the racists inevitably show up.

41 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:12:56pm

re: #37 allegro

Yup, I’m in SW commie Houston with a third term lesbian mayor who won every one of her elections with huge majorities. It’s gotta be that.

If I were you, I’d swing by “Arks-R-Us” tomorrow, maybe see about getting the starter kit delivered.

RBS

42 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:13:40pm
Alan Dershowitz Likens Pamela Geller To Martin Luther King

HAHAHA No.

43 Belafon  May 30, 2015 4:16:23pm

re: #40 freetoken

It’s both interesting and depressing that when an article delves into human evolution that the racists inevitably show up.

They’re just trying to prove that not everyone evolves.

44 allegro  May 30, 2015 4:17:00pm

re: #41 RealityBasedSteve

If I were you, I’d swing by “Arks-R-Us” tomorrow, maybe see about getting the starter kit delivered.

RBS

I’m right now feeling like a terrible mom for not having made sure the dogs and cockatoo can swim. I got a tether ready just in case. Dayum.

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 4:17:17pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Interestingly, though, the error message from Twitter is “that user does not exist,” not “that user is suspended.” That means he may have just changed the username.

No, that @ twittername is gone.
For now.

46 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:17:31pm

re: #40 freetoken

White people shaking in fear they might have to own up to having African ancestry at any time in history.

47 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:18:34pm

re: #10 RealityBasedSteve

After the earlier fiasco with “Saucepan Pizza”, I’m trying a St. Louis (Imo’s) style pizza tonight. A very thin crust, no yeast or rising (a little bit of baking powder provides the leavening). I probably didn’t roll the crust out thin enough to be truely authentic, but it’s on the pizza stone, and I’ll have a report in a few minutes…
RBS

I have to say that I pronounce it a qualified success. Very tasty, scarfed it all down. Should have rolled the crust out thinner, (should be paper thin), mine was somewhere around 1/8+ of an inch. It didn’t crisp up like a traditional one, but was nicely chewy, not at all doughy or tough. Cut it into the traditional squares. 450* for 12 minutes on a well pre-heated stone.

Cheese had started to brown up / get that little bit of char that I like on pizza.

Gonna be a “hip pocket favorite”. Can make the crust in 5 minutes, a few more minutes rolling it out and dressing it up. Into the oven and done, <30 minutes start to finish.

RBS

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 4:19:24pm

Mr. Roberts on TCM right now.

Love LOVE that movie.

49 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 4:19:42pm

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

White people shaking in fear they might have to own up to having African ancestry at any time in history.

We had to approximate Olduwan pebble tools in school. Somehow it just felt so…right.

50 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 4:20:12pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget, Chuck had something like 26,000 followers when he was booted. That’s why he’s trying everything to get his old account back. He doesn’t want to start from scratch again even if he could. It took time for him to get all those followers, and he blew it all with one stupid tweet.

Yup.

I can see him creating daily throw-away accounts to “outsmart” Twitter and then trying to remove his tracks to avoid further banning. But while such a strategy will allow him to tweet, without any name recognition he’s just wasting his time. So I suspect he’ll quickly tire of the throw-away account game, finding it totally unsatisfactory; it won’t meet the needs of his ego.

When the anger stage comes, it won’t be pretty.

51 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 4:20:13pm

re: #40 freetoken

It’s both interesting and depressing that when an article delves into human evolution that the racists inevitably show up.

Racists would love so much to have science give credence to their opinions that they will make up the science when necessary.

52 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:21:54pm
53 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:22:47pm
54 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:23:05pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget, Chuck had something like 26,000 followers when he was booted. That’s why he’s trying everything to get his old account back. He doesn’t want to start from scratch again even if he could. It took time for him to get all those followers, and he blew it all with one stupid tweet.

He blew it with at least four different really stupid tweets and a whole host of other tweets that put them in an even shittier context, all within a span of eight months.

55 freetoken  May 30, 2015 4:23:15pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

Racists would love so much to have science give credence to their opinions that they will make up the science when necessary.

Derbyshire and the AmRen folk already believe science proves their assertions and beliefs.

It’s absurd, but so much is about those folk.

56 wrenchwench  May 30, 2015 4:24:00pm
57 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:24:31pm
58 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:25:09pm
59 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 4:27:01pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I have read science its called Genesis! Plus there I more of good science contrary to evilotionism!

“They walk among us”.
—Lewis Black

60 stpaulbear  May 30, 2015 4:27:36pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I have read religion its called Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler!

61 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:28:26pm
62 GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2015 4:28:35pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

63 GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2015 4:30:48pm

Eh. Last one. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

64 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:31:19pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb
I have read science its called Genesis! Plus there I more of good science contrary to evilotionism!
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

“They walk among us”.
—Lewis Black

Eye Roll… When they can’t even spell their silly made up word correctly…

65 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 4:32:42pm

re: #64 RealityBasedSteve

I have read science its called Genesis! Plus there I more of good science contrary to evilotionism!
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Eye Roll… When they can’t even spell their silly made up word correctly…

You obviously aren’t capable of appreciating the subtlety of RWNJ wordplay. Yon dolt actually did that deliberately.

66 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:34:36pm

A reconstruction of a female member of the Australopithecus genus.

How tall? 3-1/2 ft, 4 at the most? A hominin, but distinguished from chimpanzees and gorilla, and believed to be the direct ancestor of homo sapiens.

67 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 4:34:39pm

re: #63 GlutenFreeJesus

Eh. Last one. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
@_Insomniiac_ @BlobOfConfusion @I_am_found_ genesis is called su-su-sudiofiction.
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68 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:34:49pm
69 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:35:08pm

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

#Prayforleah

I’ll pray for this baby.

70 Belafon  May 30, 2015 4:35:59pm

re: #62 GlutenFreeJesus

When my children were young, I told them you couldn’t subtract a bigger number from a smaller one. When they got older, I gave them more information.

If I believed in God, it wouldn’t be very hard to reconcile why the explanation of the world in Genesis is so much simpler than the evidence we have from nature. It would have been useless to explain general relativity 6-10K year ago because 1) they didn’t have the necessary knowledge to understand it, and 2) it wouldn’t have helped them solve how to property plant grains to feed a large number of people.

71 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:36:02pm

damn

72 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:38:30pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Why is Watson on and on about Bush and WMD?

Is this just throwing your conservative years in your face? As if you haven’t repudiated them and acknowledge the Bush administration lied in making the case for war in Iraq. He must not have an actual erroneous position that you’ve clung to up to now.

73 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:41:51pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Why is Watson on and on about Bush and WMD?

Is this just throwing your conservative years in your face? As if you haven’t repudiated them and acknowledge the Bush administration lied in making the case for war in Iraq. He must not have an actual erroneous position that you’ve clung to up to now.

Yes, he first attacked me for supporting the Iraq War, then attacked me for realizing I was wrong and renouncing it. He’s just saying anything.

74 stpaulbear  May 30, 2015 4:42:15pm

I just got a couple Johnny Thunders LPs I’d ordered from England in the mail. Most amazing colors - one is an amazing black and purple blotch swirl and the other (two record set) is multicolored fireworks, one with a translucent yellow background and the other translucent red. Haven’t listened yet but hoping that the non-black vinyl doesn’t make for a noisy pressing.

Haven’t seen the multicolor firework vinyl since the early days of Rhino Records.

75 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 4:43:25pm

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

A reconstruction of a female member of the Australopithecus genus.

How tall? 3-1/2 ft, 4 at the most? A hominin, but distinguished from chimpanzees and gorilla, and believed to be the direct ancestor of homo sapiens.

Predates the introduction of paleo-electrolysis.

76 stpaulbear  May 30, 2015 4:46:48pm

re: #67 RealityBasedSteve

Phil Collins has apologized for that song. I can relate to his hearing issues. I’m an ex-drummer too.

77 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:46:58pm

I just don’t get why saying “you supported Bush’s war” is much of an insult anymore, if you no longer support it and acknowledge all the bullshit in that administration.

I never, ever supported the war, which sounds like bragging but that’s not my intention at all. Bush’s approval rating in the couple of years following 9/11 spiked up to 90% or so. The vast, vast majority of Americans thought they were doing the patriotic thing by getting behind whatever effort Bush was pitching to combat a very real threat of terrorism that had hit us hard here at home. Even though I didn’t support it I had and still have a lot of empathy for those who did at the time, it was a very understandable thing.

78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 30, 2015 4:47:57pm

re: #50 A Cranky One

Yup.

I can see him creating daily throw-away accounts to “outsmart” Twitter and then trying to remove his tracks to avoid further banning. But while such a strategy will allow him to tweet, without any name recognition he’s just wasting his time. So I suspect he’ll quickly tire of the throw-away account game, finding it totally unsatisfactory; it won’t meet the needs of his ego.

When the anger stage comes, it won’t be pretty.

According to Wikipedia, Twitter’s main offices are in downtown San Francisco. A shooting incident there is not out of the bounds of possibility if Chuckles continues to get more and more frustrated.

79 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:50:24pm

The only time I ever really get in people’s faces about flip flopping (just to use the most dickish term I can) on Iraq is if they start in about invading Iran. Then I’m like, fool-me-once rules are now in play, no more excuses.

80 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:50:45pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

A lot of it was a baseless fear that Muslim hordes would be invading US shores at any time, or every plane would be hijacked, blah, blah, blah..

I simply went about my business until Bush started invading, then I got pissed.

81 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 4:53:06pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Also, I definitely supported going after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and accepted the role ground troops needed to play in that.

82 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 4:54:05pm
83 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:54:18pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

The only time I ever really get in people’s faces about flip flopping (just to use the most dickish term I can) on Iraq is if they start in about invading Iran. Then I’m like, fool-me-once rules are now in play, no more excuses.

This guy is a serious headcase. He’s not even trying to be logical here - he’s saying anything to attack me. Like this claim that I changed my views “overnight” — total bullshit. He has no idea how long it took - he’s just attacking like a dumb-ass chihuahua.

84 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:54:40pm
85 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 4:56:21pm
86 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 4:56:23pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

The only time I ever really get in people’s faces about flip flopping (just to use the most dickish term I can) on Iraq is if they start in about invading Iran. Then I’m like, fool-me-once rules are now in play, no more excuses.

The Kristol-McCain crowd yes.

87 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 4:58:59pm

re: #76 stpaulbear

Phil Collins has apologized for that song. I can relate to his hearing issues. I’m an ex-drummer too.

I like Phil. Reminds me fondly of my college days. Ima going to play him now.

88 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:03:49pm

re: #78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

According to Wikipedia, Twitter’s main offices are in downtown San Francisco. A shooting incident there is not out of the bounds of possibility if Chuckles continues to get more and more frustrated.

I didn’t know that; what a scary thought. I worry about what Upchuck is capable of and the fact that he owns firearms makes me nervous.

89 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:05:39pm

Before all this current fundie shit started about “creationism”, people used to explain away Genesis by saying that, sure, it might have taken millions of years, but it totally happened that way because the Bible didn’t measure time like we do today. One man and a rib, that is all.

The “time stretching” thing was also how they explained people living hundreds of years, etc.

90 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 5:06:08pm

re: #88 A Cranky One

I didn’t know that; what a scary thought. I worry about what Upchuck is capable of and the fact that he owns firearms makes me nervous.

I see him as more of an abuser of those around him.

All I care about is his hot Asian wife. But then again, she married that “was weird from the start” dude.

91 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 5:07:21pm
92 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 5:07:43pm

Just tried listening to Alex Jones, can’t do it anymore.

93 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:10:14pm

re: #90 #FergusonFireside

I see him as more of an abuser of those around him.

All I care about is his hot Asian wife. But then again, she married that “was weird from the start” dude.

They apparently met at some anti abortion event where he was maybe a speaker or something.

Oh, look, Google cache still has it.

94 The Mountain That Blogs  May 30, 2015 5:10:28pm

Always appropriate

…

EDIT: Not sure why the whole thing came in, but the fun starts at 9:30

95 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:10:47pm

Child was involved in a major accident with rollover. I hope s/he is found alive.

Why are people traveling in this weather?

96 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:12:34pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

FIRE

*insert wanking motion here*

97 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 5:13:06pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

They apparently met at some anti abortion event where he was maybe a speaker or something.

Oh, look, Google cache still has it.

gag

98 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:13:07pm

re: #90 #FergusonFireside

I see him as more of an abuser of those around him.

All I care about is his hot Asian wife. But then again, she married that “was weird from the start” dude.

I understand your concern and share it. Women seem to be favorite targets of Upchuck-for-brains.

99 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:16:36pm

Google cache is maintaining Chuck’s tweets for a while like the Dr. Who Library episode where the poor skeleton people in space suits keep talking for a few minutes through their brain pattern linked comm units after the invisible Vashta Nerada insects have eaten them.

Super sad.

100 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:18:34pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Please, don’t take this as some kind of invitation to talk about Dr. Who. Because that’s exactly what it isn’t.

101 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:19:39pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Please, don’t take this as some kind of invitation to talk about Dr. Who. Because that’s exactly what it isn’t.

Who?

102 freetoken  May 30, 2015 5:20:46pm

re: #101 A Cranky One

Who?

Isn’t he on first?

103 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 5:21:11pm

re: #97 #FergusonFireside

gag

At one point I looked up that FIRE conference and could find no mention of him being a speaker. Not positive—might have missed something, and not going to waste my time looking for it again. But I suspect if he spoke, it was probably like he “spoke” at CPAC this year—running his mouth to anyone who would listen to him in the lobby.

104 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:23:49pm

Question:

I think Charles performed a service by documenting Upchuck’s behavior and nasty tweets. Since Upchuck has been banned, are all of his tweets gone? I’m curious about the articles/pages/comments with embedded tweets. Will the tweets still appear there?

Glad that some of the most foul were saved as pictures rather than embedded tweets in any case.

105 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 5:24:24pm

re: #95 Justanotherhuman

Child was involved in a major accident with rollover. I hope s/he is found alive.

[Embedded content]

Why are people traveling in this weather?

Because they think it will only happen to somebody else.

106 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:25:31pm

re: #103 BeachDem

Was that the “reformed evangelical” outfit? Yeah, I didn’t find him in any year at the West Coast conferences.

107 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 5:25:49pm

re: #104 A Cranky One

Question:

I think Charles performed a service by documenting Upchuck’s behavior and nasty tweets. Since Upchuck has been banned, are all of his tweets gone? I’m curious about the articles/pages/comments with embedded tweets. Will the tweets still appear there?

Glad that some of the most foul were saved as pictures rather than embedded tweets in any case.

When a tweet is deleted, or the user is suspended or deactivates his/her account, embedded tweets show up as plain text blockquotes. So yeah, they still show what he posted, just not with the nicely formatted embedded tweet styles.

108 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:27:46pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

Ah, good to know the documentation still exists.

Thanks both for the answer and for the effort!

109 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:28:07pm

re: #102 freetoken

Isn’t he on first?

What? (second base)

110 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:28:57pm

Awww. RIP.

111 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 5:30:44pm

Ya’ll, my stereo system. It is still great, and loud as shit

Gator says heeeey

Made sure my gator finger puppet and octi was in the photo.

I guess the downside is I’m stuck with the music I put on that ipod. no idea how to add anything new, although I’m a stuck on what I like kinda person.

And what I just listened to

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Phil. Do not kill me.

112 freetoken  May 30, 2015 5:31:45pm

Slow moving storms:

radar.weather.gov

113 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:32:00pm
I Could’ve Been a Duggar Wife
I grew up in the same church, and the abuse scandal doesn’t shock me.

…

ATI’s teachings trickle down into every single part of its members’ lives. This is not just a homeschool curriculum, it is a fully institutionalized religious sect with incredibly strict demands to conformity — rules that, in my experience, more often reflect Gothard’s personal preferences than actual Biblical teachings. Have you ever wondered why every Duggar woman perms her hair? It’s because Gothard taught us that curly hair brings out a woman’s natural beauty. Other ATI beliefs that I learned range from utterly bizarre to downright barbaric, like the creator of Cabbage Patch Kid dolls is actually a Satanic wizard who implants demons into the dolls that then sneak into children’s bodies while they are sleeping — along with the old standard that rock music is inherently sinful. One boy from our church would walk around supermarkets with his fingers plugged into his ears to prevent himself from hearing it.

114 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:35:26pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

HOLY FUCKING HELL!

That affluence makes the constant growth of the Duggar family — their wildly exaggerated version of a large family upon which their TV fame is built — possible. The foundation of the Duggars’ fame is the fecundity of Michelle Duggar. Even the name of the show changes as she gives birth again and again and again. Each child is another notch on Jim Bob’s headboard, walking and talking proofs of his masculine virility. Despite this fascination with Michelle’s fertility, there is a critical question that no one ever seems to be ask on camera: just how fragile is the boundary between the loss of a woman’s reproductive control over her body and the loss of her sexual control over her body? From my experience in the ATI culture, it is very, very slim.

A cornerstone belief of ATI is that God appoints husbands in an “umbrella of authority” over their wives, who are mandated by God to obey their husbands completely. That includes absolute sexual and reproductive submission. The inevitable result of such a demand is the tacit sanctioning of spousal rape — if a woman’s body belongs to God and to her husband before it belongs to her, then her consent becomes irrelevant.

Women aren’t allowed ownership of their thoughts, either. At annual ATI conferences, married women are separated from everyone else and asked if they are having thoughts about using birth control, or if they feel resentment about having so many children. Answer “yes” to this and someone might tell you that those thoughts come from demons whispering into their ears. Many women in our church looked slumped over from constant exhaustion. My close friend’s mother even refused treatment for breast cancer because she saw the disease as God saving her from her abusive husband, and the burden of caring for her many children.

115 Great White Snark  May 30, 2015 5:35:51pm

I’m having that feeling when the right thing is happening, and yet really very uneasy with some of those who agree. How egregious must a program be to get the Tea Party, the ACLU and Rand Paul all on the same page? That as the vestigial GOP establishment wing protests and flails rather ineffectually again. Charles aid it well, both the Patriot act and Rand Paul gotta go.

116 freetoken  May 30, 2015 5:36:57pm

Islam key in Turkish campaign

[…]

Erdogan appeals to conservative Muslim Turks who feel they were treated as second-class citizens during decades of rule by secular parties. He has spoken with scorn of the old secular elite. “They drink their whisky on the Bosphorus … and hold the rest of the people in contempt,” he once said.

Erdogan casts the main secularist opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), founded by Ataturk, as hostile to religion, but the biggest electoral threat is likely to come from the pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP).

If it crosses the 10 percent threshold needed to enter parliament it would steal seats from AKP, potentially leaving it unable to form a majority government.

Seeking to win over pious Kurds, Erdogan has devoted much time to questioning the HDP’s Muslim credentials, describing them as followers of the Zoroastrian religion and accusing them of an insulting reference to the Kaaba, the most sacred site in Islam which worshippers face when praying.

[…]

Claiming the other major party is anti-religion… claiming that others are just not true believers… sound familiar?

117 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 5:40:43pm

re: #106 Justanotherhuman

Was that the “reformed evangelical” outfit? Yeah, I didn’t find him in any year at the West Coast conferences.

No, if I remember correctly, it was a conference in Philadelphia. FIRE—Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

This was the site I started looking at

thefire.org

118 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:40:52pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, everyone should read that article. The scale of abuse perpetrated by ATI and these Quiverfull assholes, against their women especially, is just shocking.

119 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 5:41:37pm

re: #117 BeachDem

No, if I remember correctly, it was a conference in Philadelphia. FIRE—Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

This was the site I started looking at

thefire.org

Pretty sure you want the FIRE org that I linked to above.

120 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2015 5:44:21pm

Annnnnd behold the grift. You knew it had to be coming, right?

For Ritzheimer that attention has taken the form of walking the streets around the mosque waving an American flag and wearing a t-shirt that said, “F-ck Islam.” He’s also organized protests like the Freedom of Speech Rally Round II, a followup to a similar—but smaller—event on May 17. […]

When the May 17 event seemed to go unnoticed, Ritzheimer actively promoted the next event through Facebook and an interviews by Anderson Cooper. […]

Now Ritzheimer says fake social media accounts set up in his name by counter protesters added to confusion about the event as well as raising his profile in a way that leaves him with long-term safety and fears. Ritzheimer said he’s now in talks with his supporters about setting up a GoFundMe account to either buy security cameras and self defense training for his wife or to relocate his family.

thedailybeast.com

So the attention whore was actively seeking all this crap out through repeated provocation, and now that he’s gonna try to profit from his hateful bigotry we’re to believe he didn’t plan things with exactly this outcome in mind?

Uh-huh, yeah, free speech defending, America loving patriot my ass.

K, I’m going back out—just read that and wanted to drop it off.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2015 5:46:32pm

Sometimes we argue.
Sometimes it gets really heated and sometimes it crosses over a line.
But, fortunately, it almost always comes down to this:

niterz, lizardz.

122 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:48:37pm

Oh, hell no.

One key difference worth noting between the “reality” show of “19 Kids and Counting” and the actual reality of ATI, though, is the relative affluence of the Duggars compared to most ATI families. The Duggars live in a spacious Discovery Networks-funded home, but it was not unusual, in my church, for two parents and ten children to live packed into a singlewide trailer. These children usually wear threadbare hand-me-downs already passed through several rounds of siblings. Many of them look malnourished due to the abundance of starchy meals necessary on a lean one-parent income. Women and mothers working outside of the home is absolutely forbidden in ATI no matter what the financial situation of the family. Some women are even required to get permission from their husbands if they want to obtain a driver’s license.

123 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 5:50:10pm

Thank you They Might Be Giants.

…

124 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2015 5:51:38pm

re: #120 CuriousLurker

Annnnnd behold the grift. You knew it had to be coming, right?

So the attention whore was actively seeking all this crap out through repeated provocation, and now that he’s gonna try to profit from his hateful bigotry we’re to believe he didn’t plan things with exactly this outcome in mind?

Uh-huh, yeah, free speech defending, America loving patriot my ass.

K, I’m going back out—just read that and wanted to drop it off.


“I want everybody to notice the Outrageous and Provocative Thing I’m doing and pay attention and come be Outrageous and Provocative with me!”
.
.
.
.
.
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“HELP!!!! People noticed I did something Outrageous and Provocative, and now I’m possibly a target of Outrageous and Provocative things. HELP ME!!!”

Sit on it and spin, you get exactly what you deserve.

RBS

125 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 5:51:52pm

By the way, I just edited our CSS to make deleted tweets look a bit more like the Twitter-style embedded tweets. You can see what this looks like here: littlegreenfootballs.com

126 jaunte  May 30, 2015 5:52:03pm

Open carrying pistols inside a box on the sidewalk. It’s a brilliant plan.

127 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 5:53:01pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure you want the FIRE org that I linked to above.

Possibly, but I don’t think so—I thought he wrote about the conference being related to campus rights etc. and that it was in Philadelphia. Why would his Catholic wife have been going to an evangelical conference?

128 CleverToad  May 30, 2015 5:53:18pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Upding for the TMBG ref. My kid loved that album, so of course I have it mostly memorized.

129 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 5:53:30pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

By the way, I just edited our CSS to make deleted tweets look a bit more like the Twitter-style embedded tweets. You can see what this looks like here: littlegreenfootballs.com

Looks great!

130 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:54:27pm

re: #117 BeachDem

Yeah, I didn’t think he was religious.

131 PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2015 5:56:50pm

I just posted a page on a new delivery feature with Amazon Prime. littlegreenfootballs.com

132 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2015 5:56:53pm

2 hours then I’m off for a week. Woohoo!

133 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 5:57:20pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

By the way, I just edited our CSS to make deleted tweets look a bit more like the Twitter-style embedded tweets. You can see what this looks like here: littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks Charles!
134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 30, 2015 5:58:42pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Thank you They Might Be Giants.

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Interesting factoid that always seems to surprise people—the human body generates 4 or 5 thousand times the heat per unit volume that the Sun does.

135 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 5:59:11pm

re: #120 CuriousLurker

To paraphrase:

If he can’t fucking stand the heat, he should just fucking get out of the kitchen.

Bigoted asshole reaps what he sows.

136 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 6:00:08pm

Hawks are up 2-0 after the first period in game 7 of their playoff game.

Go Hawks!

137 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2015 6:02:56pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm and keep on keeping on. : )

138 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 6:07:20pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure you want the FIRE org that I linked to above.

Not to belabor the point—but I think this was the conference he was talking about:

FIRE Announces 2010 Campus Freedom Network Student Conference

FIRE is proud to announce that its third annual Campus Freedom Network (CFN) Student Conference will be held July 15-17 at Bryn Mawr College just outside of Philadelphia.

thefire.org

139 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:08:21pm
140 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 6:11:47pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, everyone should read that article. The scale of abuse perpetrated by ATI and these Quiverfull assholes, against their women especially, is just shocking.

I don’t really have the stomach for it. I’m sure I can guess 80+% of it simply by starting with the proposition that women are property and working out the implications. This abuse of women really is the rule rather than the exception in extreme fundamentalist religion.

141 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 6:12:08pm

re: #120 CuriousLurker

Annnnnd behold the grift. You knew it had to be coming, right?

So the attention whore was actively seeking all this crap out through repeated provocation, and now that he’s gonna try to profit from his hateful bigotry we’re to believe he didn’t plan things with exactly this outcome in mind?

Uh-huh, yeah, free speech defending, America loving patriot my ass.

K, I’m going back out—just read that and wanted to drop it off.

Holy Griftman.

142 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 6:13:25pm

re: #127 BeachDem

Possibly, but I don’t think so—I thought he wrote about the conference being related to campus rights etc. and that it was in Philadelphia. Why would his Catholic wife have been going to an evangelical conference?

Good point.

re: #130 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I didn’t think he was religious.

He’s overtly pretend pious, plays up the convert to Catholicism bit. He once tweeted “Wife and I went to church today to pray for Mississippi. #mssen” during the primaries that he tried to ratfuck. He also said “I can’t believe they Killed Jesus again” when the Christian baker was found liable for discriminating illegally.

It’s all just cynical bullshit and fitting in with the right. He’s very critical of the Pope for instance, and supports the death penalty despite the Church’s position on that.

143 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 6:18:43pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Good point.

He’s overtly pretend pious, plays up the convert to Catholicism bit. He once tweeted “Wife and I went to church today to pray for Mississippi. #mssen” during the primaries that he tried to ratfuck. He also said “I can’t believe they Killed Jesus again” when the Christian baker was found liable for discriminating illegally.

It’s all just cynical bullshit and fitting in with the right. He’s very critical of the Pope for instance, and supports the death penalty despite the Church’s position on that.

All true—he certainly never makes sense, but I do believe it was the conference I mentioned in 138 where he supposedly met hotasianwife.

144 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2015 6:20:12pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Good point.

He’s overtly pretend pious, plays up the convert to Catholicism bit. He once tweeted “Wife and I went to church today to pray for Mississippi. #mssen” during the primaries that he tried to ratfuck. He also said “I can’t believe they Killed Jesus again” when the Christian baker was found liable for discriminating illegally.

It’s all just cynical bullshit and fitting in with the right. He’s very critical of the Pope for instance, and supports the death penalty despite the Church’s position on that.

When the American RCC fastened on the abortion monomania, it didn’t realize it was sidling up to a RW world that would feed back into the beliefs of street-level Catholics. Thus you find YEC types that were unheard of in the 50s, and bizarre crap like Jindal’s dorm-room exorcism.

145 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 6:20:44pm

re: #143 BeachDem

All true—he certainly never makes sense, but I do believe it was the conference I mentioned in littlegreenfootballs.com where he supposedly met hotasianwife.

I agree now, that makes more sense.

146 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2015 6:36:41pm
147 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 6:37:14pm

My ipod travels.

…

148 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 6:40:53pm

Next

I fucking love this song

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Joe Jackson.

I’m out after this, meeting some people for Italian dinner.

Thanks for playing along with my ipod on bose get ready soundtrack!

149 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:42:06pm

O_o

150 William Lewis  May 30, 2015 6:43:06pm

Just realized I hadn’t shown off my newest toy and a music thread seems an appropriate place. The rest of my entertainment budget for the year:

This is the 1966 Limited Edition with Alnico coil tapped pickups. I chose it over the regular G-400 Pro (same price) simply because I liked the bigger pickguard’s look :) Makes a good companion with the Tele, I can cover a whole lot of sonic ground between those two and my VHT tube amp.

And to top things off, I seem to finally be getting the hang of the F chord. Still can’t switch in and out of the barred monster very fast but at least the chord is correct while I’m playing it. Yeah me!

151 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2015 6:45:11pm

Hattip to Gus:

152 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:45:23pm

re: #150 William Lewis

Sweet! My pops gave me his red ‘92 Gibson SG for my 18th birthday. I love that guitar!

153 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2015 6:45:46pm

Thinking of our VP and his family. Cancer sucks.

154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 30, 2015 6:46:51pm

Well, I guess we can understand why the Duggars are such a success on cable.

Here’s a cute graphic showing the pay of the top CEOs in America.

David M. Zaslav of Discovery Communications got a 368% raise to 156 million dollars while the company’s stock declined 25% year-over-year.

Meanwhile, Tim Cook (CEO of the largest corporation in the history of the world) makes a little over 9 million as Apple stock goes up over 47%. Only in America….

155 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2015 6:47:45pm
156 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:48:34pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

157 #FergusonFireside  May 30, 2015 6:50:33pm

re: #151 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hattip to Gus:

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Oh how horrible.

:(

158 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:52:25pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

159 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:53:24pm

Joe Biden has been through some shit, man.

160 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 6:53:24pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I guess we can understand why the Duggars are such a success on cable.

Here’s a cute graphic showing the pay of the top CEOs in America.

David M. Zaslav of Discovery Communications got a 368% raise to 156 million dollars while the company’s stock declined 25% year-over-year.

Meanwhile, Tim Cook (CEO of the largest corporation in the history of the world) makes a little over 9 million as Apple stock goes up over 47%. Only in America….

It’s always amusing when free market fundamentalists attempt to defend US executive compensation.

To date I have not heard any argument that is even worth bothering to rebut. Nothing but mindless bleats about how regulation is always wrong.

161 BeachDem  May 30, 2015 6:54:03pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Very sad—heartfelt, lovely statement.

162 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 30, 2015 6:55:36pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

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Thanks for squirting that out to the Twitterverse. Everybody needs to see that.

163 EPR-radar  May 30, 2015 6:55:52pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

If anyone is wondering why a second round of muckraking journalism in the US is most unlikely, news media consolidation is the reason.

164 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:55:59pm

I don’t care what your politics are, you have to admit that Joe Biden has gone through more tragedy in his personal life than most of us are willing to bare.

165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 30, 2015 6:57:25pm

re: #161 BeachDem

Very sad—heartfelt, lovely statement.

True. If Beau was anything like his Dad, I’m sure he was a terrific guy. I’ll never forgive the right-wing smear machine for knocking Joe out of the 1988 presidential race. Things could have been very different.

166 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 6:59:28pm
167 Lidane  May 30, 2015 7:01:23pm

re: #153 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thinking of our VP and his family. Cancer sucks.

Agreed.

I’ve got a high school friend who just recently moved back to Texas because what they’d originally thought was pneumonia turned out to be Stage IV glandular cancer. He’s now dealing with chemo and all kinds of stuff.

Fuck cancer. It’s horrible.

168 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 7:01:49pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, @GoKaboom11, who I suspect was a Chuck Johnson sock, has vanished from Twitter.

Has this account reappeared? Odd.

169 bratwurst  May 30, 2015 7:02:27pm
170 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 7:02:29pm

Just read Biden’s statement about Beau. I have to admit, it got me kind of weepy.

171 CleverToad  May 30, 2015 7:06:23pm

re: #153 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Cancer sucks big time. Thinking of the Bidens and Lawhawk and of family members dealing with it. Wishing them strength.

172 A Cranky One  May 30, 2015 7:08:36pm

re: #171 CleverToad

Cancer sucks big time. Thinking of the Bidens and Lawhawk and of family members dealing with it. Wishing them strength.

Me too.

173 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 7:08:47pm

Frank Zappa, Bill Hicks, Steve Jobs, Christopher Hitchens, I can keep naming them.

174 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 7:09:48pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Aww damn. I didn’t even know Beau Biden was sick. Condolences to the VP, Mrs. Biden, and the entire Biden family. So sad.

175 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 7:11:03pm

Carl Sagan, Bob Marley, Audrey Hepburn, Sally Ride…

176 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2015 7:11:20pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

I don’t care what your politics are, you have to admit that Joe Biden has gone through more tragedy in his personal life than most of us are willing to bare.

Yeah I was just thinking about that. Beau was in the accident that killed Joe’s first wife and daughter. I’m amazed how sunny and optimistic Joe Biden is with all the tragedy that has happened in his personal life. It’s a testament to his character.

177 teleskiguy  May 30, 2015 7:13:59pm

Just off the top of my head.

178 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2015 7:15:21pm

re: #168 A Cranky One

Has this account reappeared? Odd.

Hrmmm. Well he’s a woman hating asshole and a troll, so I can see why people think he might be Chuck.

Plus he’s also targeting supporters of Lauren Chief Elk.

179 subterraneanhomesickalien  May 30, 2015 7:29:28pm

re: #150 William Lewis

Have Epiphone guitars gone up in quality lately?

I remember I bought a Epi Les Paul Custom model 10 years ago and it was awful.

Just felt cheap. It seemed to me that Fender and Gibson didn’t really care about making good affordable mid quality instruments back then with their Epi and Squire models.

It led to them getting lapped by brands like ESP and Ibanez in that market.

180 William Lewis  May 30, 2015 7:47:30pm

re: #179 subterraneanhomesickalien

Have Epiphone guitars gone up in quality lately?

I remember I bought a Epi Les Paul Custom model 10 years ago and it was awful.

Just felt cheap. It seemed to me that Fender and Gibson didn’t really care about making good affordable mid quality instruments back then with their Epi and Squire models.

It led to them getting lapped by brands like ESP and Ibanez in that market.

Well, I’ve got a Squier and a Epiphone now. Both feel good to me but I am a real beginner. Down the road I may not think as highly of them as I do now but OTOH, they’re so much better than the guitars I could have afforded in high school (class of 82) that it’s a different world. The Epi needs a bit more set up - fair bit of fret buzz from something being too low. The Squier was near perfect out of the box. In both cases, these are mid to higher end guitars from these companies - their cheapest can still be pretty rough from what I understand.

181 subterraneanhomesickalien  May 30, 2015 7:54:26pm

re: #180 William Lewis

Every guitar that I’ve ever owned has had to have a truss rod and bridge adjustment out of the box.

It doesn’t matter if was a high end model like my Les Paul Standard, or mid range like my ESP Eclipse.

I always switch the strings to a heavier gauge too. I like tuning down a bit.

182 b_sharp  May 30, 2015 8:05:33pm

re: #150 William Lewis

Just realized I hadn’t shown off my newest toy and a music thread seems an appropriate place. The rest of my entertainment budget for the year:

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This is the 1966 Limited Edition with Alnico coil tapped pickups. I chose it over the regular G-400 Pro (same price) simply because I liked the bigger pickguard’s look :) Makes a good companion with the Tele, I can cover a whole lot of sonic ground between those two and my VHT tube amp.

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And to top things off, I seem to finally be getting the hang of the F chord. Still can’t switch in and out of the barred monster very fast but at least the chord is correct while I’m playing it. Yeah me!

So when do we get to hear you play?

183 William Lewis  May 30, 2015 9:39:16pm

re: #182 b_sharp

So when do we get to hear you play?

Not anytime soon… O_o


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