Video: Police Brutality Incident at a Pool Party in Texas - UPDATE: Cop Added Video to His YouTube Playlist

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(The Grio)The incident reportedly took place this weekend in McKinney, Texas - where a resident was having a pool party. Allegedly, neighbors were concerned about the large group of black children who were in attendance at the event, and called the police to intervene. Authorities arrived immediately to the predominately white neighborhood and proceeded to chase and handcuff the frightened partygoers without providing much information as to why. At one point in the clip, an officer can be seen pinning a young girl in a bathing suit facedown into the grass while grabbing her by her braids. She and her friends hysterically scream as she is cuffed. The adults in the neighborhood are seen helplessly watching on as the girl sobs. All throughout the clip several detained young boys try to explain to the police that they just arrived to the scene and were not involved in whatever complaints had been made. They also appear confused as to why they have been cuffed. The video ends with the officer chastising the boys for “being part of the mob.”

UPDATE at 6/7/15 2:41:56 pm by Charles Johnson

Wow. The officer shown brutally manhandling a teenage girl above, Eric Casebolt, has his own YouTube account: youtube.com

And he has a playlist of “police training videos,” some of which are blatantly racist in nature. And get a load of this — Casebolt added the video of the pool party incident to his playlist:

YouTube

(UPDATE: the playlist has now been deleted.)

(h/t: @oneforeachofyou.)

UPDATE at 6/7/15 3:11:17 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s a screenshot of Casebolt’s playlist at YouTube, just in case the video suddenly disappears from it; it’s the last one on the list, at the bottom:

UPDATE at 6/7/15 8:18:10 pm by Charles Johnson

Officer Casebolt has now deleted everything in his YouTube account.

Also see
McKinney Police Officer Placed on Administrative Leave | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth Texas Police Officer Suspended After Pulling Weapon On Teens During Pool Party

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463 comments
1 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 12:37:34pm
2 Tigger2  Jun 7, 2015 12:38:29pm

He needs fired not just suspended.

3 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 12:38:36pm

And of course the assclowns chime in:

4 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 12:43:52pm

Wow. He actually pulled his gun on these kids. Even the other cops were trying to restrain him. This guy was out of control.

5 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 12:46:01pm

The comments at that local NBC site are developing as usual.

6 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 12:47:13pm

Multiple problems with this situation. Not only was this cop clearly out of control of his emotions and situation, the black kids were assumed to be the problem.

I’m thinking it’s always been this way but the prevalence of technology is making it easy for people to record and share the videos.

7 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 12:47:22pm

This is a fucking unbelievable picture. Indeed, a picture is worth a 1000 words…..

8 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 12:48:28pm

re: #5 freetoken

The comments at that local NBC site are developing as usual.

Indeed, it’s the standard “they should have done as told” bit, the idea that the kids brought this on themselves by not just obeying the cops. None of those who are defending the cops can explain why the white kids who were disobeying the cops didn’t get the same treatment.

9 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 12:51:08pm

Having a pool party while black.

10 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 12:51:51pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Indeed, it’s the standard “they should have done as told” bit, the idea that the kids brought this on themselves by not just obeying the cops. None of those who are defending the cops can explain why the white kids who were disobeying the cops didn’t get the same treatment.

Of course not. They’re a bunch of fucking bigots who will justify any racist action towards black people but the second a cop gets impatient with them, it means the government is out to get them.

11 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 12:53:09pm

Cultural context:

Gober, Tx is right near McKinney, just northeast of the DFW Metrogalopolex.

This is a fairly recent picture (note Zip Code on shack)

12 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 12:53:31pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Having a pool party while black.

‘Swimming while Black’ is a threat in Texas.

13 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2015 12:54:56pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

‘Swimming while Black’ is a threat in Texas.

I thought it was “breathing while black.”

14 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 12:58:53pm
15 Kragar  Jun 7, 2015 1:00:55pm
16 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 1:04:21pm
17 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 1:04:34pm

You’ve got a cop at the beginning of the video telling kids not to run when the cops show up…and then one dumbass running around, demonstrating the sort of behavior that has led to black kids running from cops when they show up.

18 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 1:04:53pm

…

19 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 1:05:52pm

My security guard friend in Lubbock tells me that white kids, even 7 and 8 year olds, have no fear whatever of the police and will frequently attack and resist them, while young black kids never do.

20 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 1:07:58pm

re: #15 Kragar

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Yes it’s quite fucking telling.

21 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:08:08pm

HT Kragar above…

Contrasting the images of how the police treated the bikers after the gun brawl that killed eight… and how these poor kids are being treated at a freaking pool party!

22 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 1:08:33pm

re: #21 Great White Snark

Contrast the images of how the police treated the bikers after the gun brawl that killed eight… and how these poor kids are being treated at a freaking pool party!

Wow.

It’s disgusting.

23 BlueGrl21  Jun 7, 2015 1:09:08pm

Have family friends in McKinney. Been there many, many times.

We’re white. 2 little boys. Husband is a high school basketball coach and we always have 3-4 of his black players with us. Tall, young, black males with our family. Our boys get carried on their shoulders.

We get a lot of looks there. It’s a cute town. But those players know never to go anywhere without us. EVER. Not even a question.

It’s that kind of place. Things are there underneath. This is it surfacing. We won’t be going again now that our instincts are confirmed.

24 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 1:09:45pm

If Chuck isn’t blind drunk already today, he’s probably trying to find the name of the black teen the cop kneeled on, so he can dox her.

25 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:10:44pm

Just waiting to see a police report the girl reached for her waistband, er bikini…

26 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 1:13:58pm

re: #25 Great White Snark

Just waiting to see a police report the girl reached for her waistband, er bikini…

Or that she charged, like a bull. On the marijuana. With a murder charge.

27 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 1:14:09pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

If Chuck isn’t blind drunk already today, he’s probably trying to find the name of the black teen the cop kneeled on, so he can dox her.

Given the lack of updates on his site, he’s doing some harder drugs now.

…

28 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 1:15:49pm

Well, if cops are so terrified of being squirted with a water pistol that it’s necessary to shoot a 12-year-old, imagine the terror of getting splashed with pool water!

(God, I hate these fuckers! All of them! Everywhere!)

29 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 1:17:28pm

But but Jesse Jackson.///

30 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 1:20:43pm

Some people just shouldn’t be cops, period.

31 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:24:11pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Wow. He actually pulled his gun on these kids. Even the other cops were trying to restrain him. This guy was out of control.

That cop was in complete rage, literally out of control. I’m thinking he is the guy that literally fell into the frame and rolled his way back up. Tripped himself I’d bet. Maybe over a tree root. Adrenaline high and raging over pride.

32 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:25:17pm

Did one calm cop early say they are good to go only for those “good to go” down for detaining?

33 Kragar  Jun 7, 2015 1:26:15pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

34 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 7, 2015 1:27:56pm

re: #31 Great White Snark

That cop was in complete rage, literally out of control. I’m thinking he is the guy that literally fell into the frame and rolled his way back up. Tripped himself I’d bet. Maybe over a tree root. Adrenaline high and raging over pride.

Yep. Just like when the police car door - used as a weapon intended to intimidate Michael Brown - bounced off of Brown’s torso into Darren Wilson’s face. One big adrenalin rush and the good guy with a gun isn’t any longer.

35 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 1:28:14pm
36 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 1:28:24pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

If Chuck isn’t blind drunk already today, he’s probably trying to find the name of the black teen the cop kneeled on, so he can dox her.

37 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 7, 2015 1:32:04pm

I had family that used to live north of there for many years (Sherman/Dennison area). I would go to McKinney with them occasionally for a special outing.

This shit doesn’t surprise me at all.

38 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 1:33:58pm

Break out the popcorn. There is another outbreak of civil war at Free Republic re the Duggars. This time it is over a breathless post revealing that the tabloid that exposed the “inappropriate touching” story is owned by a German conglomerate that also traffics in pornography.

Meet the Terrible Porn Publisher Behind the Outing of the Duggar Abuse Story

Needless to say, this is an utterly irrelevant ad hominem since the basic facts are not in dispute and it would not matter if Satan himself had initially revealed them.

Some of the freepers have predictably jumped right on this as proof of an anti-Christian agenda in the revelations, if not an actual Obammunist conspiracy.

“ANTI-CHRISTIANS did this….finding out they are in PORN does NOT surprise me…..and the PERSON who released this info must also be into PORN PLUS anti-Christian!”

Others are pushing back HARD, however:

“If I had kids anywhere near that family in the last ten years, I’d be freaking out.”

“The magazine did nothing illegal. Josh was 18 when the police report was made. And the Duggars never asked a judge for the records to be sealed.”

“Does all this mean that Josh did not touch his sisters’ vaginas?”

…..which elicited this pathetic squeak of a counter-punch:

“WHY do you hate the Duggars so much…..I think I know.”

39 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 1:35:08pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Break out the popcorn. There is another outbreak of civil war at Free Republic re the Duggars. This time it is over a breathless post revealing that the tabloid that exposed the “inappropriate touching” story is owned by a German conglomerate that also traffics in pornography.

Meet the Terrible Porn Publisher Behind the Outing of the Duggar Abuse Story

Needless to say, this is an utterly irrelevant ad hominem since the basic facts are not in dispute and it would not matter if Satan himself had initially revealed them.

Some of the freepers have predictably jumped right on this as proof of an anti-Christian agenda in the revelations, if not an actual Obammunist conspiracy.

Others are pushing back HARD, however:

…..which elicited this pathetic squeak of a counter-punch:

Glad to see some decency in freeperland.

40 Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2015 1:37:01pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

…..which elicited this pathetic squeak of a counter-punch:

“WHY do you hate the Duggars so much…..I think I know.”

In other words,

…

41 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 1:40:04pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Break out the popcorn. There is another outbreak of civil war at Free Republic re the Duggars. This time it is over a breathless post revealing that the tabloid that exposed the “inappropriate touching” story is owned by a German conglomerate that also traffics in pornography.

Meet the Terrible Porn Publisher Behind the Outing of the Duggar Abuse Story

Needless to say, this is an utterly irrelevant ad hominem since the basic facts are not in dispute and it would not matter if Satan himself had initially revealed them.

Some of the freepers have predictably jumped right on this as proof of an anti-Christian agenda in the revelations, if not an actual Obammunist conspiracy.

Others are pushing back HARD, however:

…..which elicited this pathetic squeak of a counter-punch:

That last bit is the item that’s lost in all this: The authorities didn’t get mixed up in this until after Josh was 18, which means there was no seal on those records. To get them sealed, he or his parents would have had to petition a judge to seal them. And doing that would have raised some serious red flags at a time when the family was just beginning to draw the attention of the media.

42 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 1:40:55pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

To: greyfoxx39
I just find it odd there are conservatives who are willing defend a family that condondoned [sic] four of their daughters being molested.
25 posted on 6/7/2015, 1:54:20 PM by Oliviaforever

‘Oliviaforever’ will likely be IP banned.

43 BlueGrl21  Jun 7, 2015 1:41:42pm

This cop is completely out of control and fucking dangerous.

Why? The kids didn’t immediately obey him. They stayed there. And filmed it. And asked why he was doing what he was.

Thank GOD those other officers were there. Can you imagine if he were one on one with one or two of those kids? As amped up as he was, waving a gun around?

I hope they sue the City of McKinney. They have deep pockets.

44 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:42:49pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Our cameras are saving us from them. Takes time. This is another tick on the clock.

In all of past history we never ever had such a powerful non violent tool to assert the truth of an event as right now. Especially when that is oppression by way of racial policing. Cops can’t hide this crap anymore. We are our own video empowered check on authorities.

And that’s why I come down firmly in the camp of liberal rules for small drones and the public using them. Well call it one reason on my list.

45 Frenchy  Jun 7, 2015 1:47:37pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Too bad that even if he does find the name and dox her, virtually no one will be paying attention to him.

If a douche lord doxes an innocent child but nobody is around for it (because he lost his Twitter account), does it make a sound?

46 Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2015 1:47:41pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

From what I read for nothing being sealed is the distinction between court records vs. police records:

From: rawstory.com
They had to release the reports,” said attorney John Tull, of Little Rock. “Those records are not closed under FOI. The alleged perpetrator had attained his majority at the time it was released, and once his name and all the victims’ names were blacked out, it was subject to FOI.”

Tull said the Arkansas statute exempting juvenile records in a variety of cases does not apply to police reports.

“These are police records, not court records, so I don’t believe the court has authority to order destruction of the records, nor do I think that the police department has any alternative but to release the records pursuant to Freedom of Information,” said Tull, an attorney for the Arkansas Press Association.

and

From: washingtonpost.com
Much of the discussion about the Duggar family’s possible legal claim has centered on one main question: Aren’t juvenile records kept private?

In most cases, they are. In 2009, Arkansas lawmakers revised the state code to provide additional protection for juvenile records. The law very clearly states that “all records are closed and confidential,” except for a handful of narrowly tailored exceptions. And most records are expunged by the time the juvenile turns 21, according to the code.

But the Duggar case never made it into the juvenile court system, or any court system, for that matter. The alleged crimes occurred in 2002 and 2003, but the police investigation did not occur until 2006. By that time, Josh Duggar was already an adult at age 18, so the state code covering the confidentiality of juvenile records would not apply to this case, legal experts have said.

47 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 1:48:17pm

She me on this doll where the lieberal media touched you.

48 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 1:48:48pm

Yeah, that one with the rage issue shouldn’t be a cop or have a gun. If the others hadn’t stopped him, there would’ve been… *smh*

And there are people who will still make excuses for the cops and deny that there is any racism or white privilege involved. How many times does it have to be seen on film before people believe it?

49 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 1:50:22pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Glad to see some decency in freeperland.

Strange to see minor traces of sentient life there after all the years of purely dysgenic selection.

50 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 1:52:17pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

Yeah, that one with the rage issue shouldn’t be a cop or have a gun. If the others hadn’t stopped him, there would’ve been… *smh*

And there are people who will still make excuses for the cops and deny that there is any racism or white privilege involved. How many times does it have to be seen on film before people believe it?

I think the other cops were fast to restrain him in part because they understand the recent past on video from cell phones. Some back from the cloud after the phone got files deleted in official custody. The public gets it everyone is fast to whip out the phones at an incident these days. Heck all they gotta do is look up from texting and hit the not a selfie camera icon.
;-)

51 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 1:54:39pm

Found a great Twitter app for my Fire HD tablet: Carbon. It’s available at 1Mobile Market for free. Been looking for something comparable to Tweetbot for iOS — this is it. Much better than any other Twitter app I’ve tried.

52 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2015 1:55:53pm

What in the actual fuck… Wow… Just wow.

McKinney is up northeast of DFW, in one of these areas that’s exploded in the last ten years. I was last there on Thanksgiving 2013 and there was still development work ongoing. Lots of cookie-cutter big-house suburban developments are appearing seemingly overnight, and come to think of it, the most color you might see are the skins of the yard crews tending all those perfect little lawns. A couple of dozen black kids in a backyard would probably be a shock to the locals.

Texas: leading the way in American national embarrassment yet again.

53 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 1:56:33pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

BTW, I’ve been meaning to ask how you like the Fire HD now that you’ve had some time to really put it to use.

54 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 1:57:57pm

re: #50 Great White Snark

I think the other cops were fast to restrain him in part because they understand the recent past on video from cell phones. Some back from the cloud after the phone got files deleted in official custody. The public gets it everyone is fast to whip out the phones at an incident these days. Heck all they gotta do is look up from texting and hit the not a selfie camera icon.
;-)

It’s the presence of so many cameras that is beginning to level the playing field for the public in the fight for changes in law enforcement. It’s hard as hell for the defenders of the police to argue that there’s no problems when you’ve got videos like this, where a rage-fueled cop totally undoes the argument that all you have to do to avoid getting your ass beat by the cops is to obey them. You’ve got one cop who’s telling kids they shouldn’t run when cops show up, while his buddy is running around behind him, screaming at the kids he’s trying to have a frank discussion with to get on the ground.

55 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 1:58:04pm

re: #50 Great White Snark

I think the other cops were fast to restrain him in part because they understand the recent past on video from cell phones. Some back from the cloud after the phone got files deleted in official custody. The public gets it everyone is fast to whip out the phones at an incident these days. Heck all they gotta do is look up from texting and hit the not a selfie camera icon.
;-)

Yeah, everyone needs to have video that goes straight to the cloud. I wonder if that can be done in real time… This shit has just GOT to stop.

56 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:00:22pm

re: #53 CuriousLurker

BTW, I’ve been meaning to ask how you like the Fire HD now that you’ve had some time to really put it to use.

I’m really liking it a lot. The Android OS isn’t quite as polished as iOS, but the tablet works great for stuff like Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and Twitter. The only thing I can’t do (without some hacking and voiding the warranty) is use apps from Google Play. But 1Mobile Market has a lot of the same apps.

57 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 2:00:35pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

It’s the presence of so many cameras that is beginning to level the playing field for the public in the fight for changes in law enforcement. It’s hard as hell for the defenders of the police to argue that there’s no problems when you’ve got videos like this, where a rage-fueled cop totally undoes the argument that all you have to do to avoid getting your ass beat by the cops is to obey them. You’ve got one cop who’s telling kids they shouldn’t run when cops show up, while his buddy is running around behind him, screaming at the kids he’s trying to have a frank discussion with to get on the ground.

I hope they sue the crap outta them, and that any money won sends some of those kids to good colleges to become lawyers.

58 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 2:01:15pm

Whoa.

59 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 2:01:20pm

re: #55 CuriousLurker

Yeah, everyone needs to have video that goes straight to the cloud. I wonder if that can be done in real time… This shit has just GOT to stop.

Okay Pro Tip
Have your cell camera save images to the dropbox folder. Watch your settings to make sure your phone will switch from cell tower to wifi smoothly. DSLR users can get memory cards with WiFi, if in a limited way.

60 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:01:51pm

Wow.

61 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 2:02:08pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Interesting, thanks. I should’ve grabbed one, but I wasn’t sure I’d like it since I’m so used to my iPad & iPod Touch.

62 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 2:04:56pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Whoah.

63 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 2:04:58pm
64 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 2:06:10pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Wow.

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I submit a new motto, in the vein of “follow the money”: “Follow the racism.” Catch a racist cop on video, odds are you’re going to find further incidents of racist behavior in his background and a police department willing to condone such behavior.

65 sizzzzlerz  Jun 7, 2015 2:06:47pm

Thugs in size 3 bathing suits. With pigtails.

66 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 2:07:21pm
67 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 2:11:01pm

Freeper update:
Looks like the anti-Duggars have carried the enemy line with a frontal assault and mopping up is well underway. A few diehards have yet to be flushed out of the woods and speared.

It appears therefore that we have found their limit: They are opposed to molesting 5 year olds.

68 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 2:11:20pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Wow.

The most disgusting photo you’ll see today.

Needs more snarling German Shepherds.

69 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 2:12:11pm

I thought these were interesting facts about the story:

Grace Stone, a white 14-year-old, told BuzzFeed News that when she and her friends objected to the racist comments about public housing an adult woman then became violent.

and

“Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” [Brooks] said. “[The cop] didn’t even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.”

Brooks is a white 15 year old male. I couldn’t find a first name.

from buzzfeed.com.

White kids are noticing the racism. They’re too young to do much but record the video, but in the idiocy of the event, it makes me a bit hopeful.

70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 2:12:52pm

I don’t think the prospect of people shooting video with their phones is going to stop this kind of thing—it’ll only make it worse. Now that cops have gotten more sensitized to it, I think they’ll just start shooting anybody they even suspect of filming them. They’ll get off for it. If they can get off for shooting a 12-year-old with a water pistol, they can get off on anything.

71 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 2:13:28pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Needs more snarling German Shepherds.

And firehoses.

72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 2:13:54pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper update:
Looks like the anti-Duggars have carried the enemy line with a frontal assault and mopping up is well underway. A few diehards have yet to be flushed out of the woods and speared.

It appears therefore that we have found their limit: They are opposed to molesting 5 year olds.

White, Christian 5 year olds.

73 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 2:13:58pm

re: #70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t think the prospect of people shooting video with their phones is going to stop this kind of thing—it’ll only make it worse. Now that cops have gotten more sensitized to it, I think they’ll just start shooting anybody they even suspect of filming them. They’ll get off for it. If they can get off for shooting a 12-year-old with a water pistol, they can get off on anything.

True, until they shoot the white kid doing the recording.

74 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 7, 2015 2:14:19pm

WTF at that white dude in the blue shorts just standing around while that cop takes down that poor girl. Really. WTF. Not doing anything.

75 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 2:15:16pm

re: #74 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF at that white dude in the blue shorts just standing around while that cop takes down that poor girl. Really. WTF. Not doing anything.

He is portraying the role of Bull Connor.

76 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 7, 2015 2:16:03pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Man. F that guy too. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s the one that called the cops in the first place.

77 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 2:16:04pm

re: #73 Belafon

True, until they shoot the white kid doing the recording.

They absolutely will shoot the white kid doing the recording. Obviously a Commie agitator.

78 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:16:34pm

Look at this guy’s YouTube playlist.

YouTube

79 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 2:17:52pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

I’m really liking it a lot. The Android OS isn’t quite as polished as iOS, but the tablet works great for stuff like Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and Twitter. The only thing I can’t do (without some hacking and voiding the warranty) is use apps from Google Play. But 1Mobile Market has a lot of the same apps.

How do you get this Twitter app on your Fire?

80 Lidane  Jun 7, 2015 2:17:53pm

I wish I could say I was surprised by this bullshit in McKinney.

I’d be lying if I did.

81 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:19:41pm

re: #79 Lord Of The Pies

How do you get this Twitter app on your Fire?

I got it through 1Mobile Market: Side Loading Apps on the Kindle Fire.

82 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 2:19:41pm

re: #80 Lidane

I wish I could say I was surprised by this bullshit in McKinney.

I’d be lying if I did.

I would be very shocked if anything that blatant happened here in Lower Alabama. Y’all Texans got some catching up to do.

83 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 2:23:23pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

The video of him is in his own playlist.

84 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 2:23:52pm

Nope, not going to buy a house with an aging 42 yr old all-electric HVAC system. I crawled under the house to take a look; the A/C condenser was rusting out, too. And the realtor didn’t even know where the water heater was so I couldn’t check that out. Plus, just the shell of a coal burning stove—not the stove itself which had been removed. Plus, when I turned the faucet on at the well in the backyard, no water came out, and she couldn’t tell me where the septic tank was. But she just had to tell me she’d been to church this morning.

The cosmetic reno was nice, though.

My grandson, on the way home, said, Why don’t you get your real estate license? Nope.

85 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 2:24:31pm

re: #70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s why we need to make recording technology more invisible than it is today-whipping out the cellphone is a dead giveaway and can make a situation worse. Burying the camera in a baseball cap, a jacket or a shoe, OTOH, doesn’t give the game away.

Sousveillance.

86 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:24:59pm

re: #83 BigPapa

The video of him is in his own playlist.

Yup.

87 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 2:28:19pm

re: #85 Eric The Fruit Bat

Bluetooth from the glasses to the phone.

88 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 2:32:15pm

“A videotaped society is a polite society.”

89 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 2:33:54pm

Off topic, but I see our Congress is sabre keyboard rattling again:

Cyberattack: US should retaliate for theft of personal data, congressmen say

[…]

“There has to be a price to pay for this,” Representative Peter King, who is on both the intelligence and Homeland Security committees, said on “Fox News Sunday.”

While the timing and method of retaliation should be determined by the administration and kept secret, “these countries or these terrorist groups should know there will be consequences when they act this way,” Mr King said.

Representative Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the intelligence panel, said the administration must determine “when we’re going to go on offence.”

[…]

Are we aching for the first digital world war?

Will a war fought on the internet not somehow turn into the meat world?

90 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 2:36:37pm

Man, Twitter is all over this guy. If he left any (other) crappy stuff lying around on the internet, it’s gonna get found.

91 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 2:38:08pm

Freeper comment on this:

It’s nothing more than “entitled” ferrels being ferrel and then pretending to be victims. The cops were doing the best they could in a difficult situation. The only “bad” thing was that one exasperated cop slipped and used some expletives, but no more than necessary force to detain one of the ferrels.

Illiterate and proud of it, judging by the pointed repetition of “ferrel.”

Probably thinks it has something to do with this guy even though he is white and uses an extra “L”:

Will Ferrell
92 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 2:41:15pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

I got it through 1Mobile Market: Side Loading Apps on the Kindle Fire.

Got it. Thanks.

93 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 2:41:20pm
94 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 2:43:30pm
95 Mattand  Jun 7, 2015 2:44:29pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper update:
Looks like the anti-Duggars have carried the enemy line with a frontal assault and mopping up is well underway. A few diehards have yet to be flushed out of the woods and speared.

It appears therefore that we have found their limit: They are opposed to molesting 5 year olds.

White, Christian 5 year olds, at any rate.

96 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 2:45:14pm

re: #93 Lord Of The Pies

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Mmmm! Challah’s the best thing for French toast, too. It can soak up the custard without losing its structure.

97 Mattand  Jun 7, 2015 2:47:14pm

re: #84 Justanotherhuman

But she just had to tell me she’d been to church this morning.

Hopefully she prayed that she’d be less of an eff-up at her job. Judging from your description, it sounds like even God can’t grant that miracle.

98 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 2:48:43pm

re: #91 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper comment on this:

Illiterate and proud of it, judging by the pointed repetition of “ferrel.”

Probably thinks it has something to do with this guy even though he is white and uses an extra “L”:

[Embedded content]

Feral, Ferrel, Ferret. It’s all the same.

RBW

99 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 2:49:08pm

re: #91 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper comment on this:

Illiterate and proud of it, judging by the pointed repetition of “ferrel.”

Probably thinks it has something to do with this guy even though he is white and uses an extra “L”:

[Embedded content]

That’s not as bad as the Bull Connor wannabe:

Multiple juveniles refusing to leave?Bring in the K-9 units.You’d be amazed how quickly they can move then.

And then there’s the “I heard this from a friend…” business:

You don’t know how right you are. One of the things I read about this as that some of these teens were having sex in the pool.

Notice no link to where he “read” this.

100 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 2:51:58pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

“A videotaped society is a polite society.”

Sort of. Human’s will find a way to choreograph any kind of “story” that they really want to see…

Several of David Brin’s novels & his non-fiction - especially “Earth” (1990), “The Transparent Society: Will Technology Force Us to Choose Between Privacy and Freedom?” (1998) & “Existence” (2012) explore these issues in depth. “Earth” is especially prescient in this regard.

101 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 2:54:11pm
102 A Cranky One  Jun 7, 2015 2:54:48pm

re: #84 Justanotherhuman

Good for you.

When we bought our current house, the real estate agent wasn’t sure how to deal with us. I was checking the attic, the furnace/AC and plant, plumbing, checking for signs of water in the basement, etc. She was used to people looking at the most superficial and easy to change things (paint, wallpaper, etc.). She was shocked when I told her to take any houses from certain builders off the list (I was not happy with the quality of construction in the samples we saw). I identified all the issues with our house before the home inspection (including some the inspector missed) and had them fixed within a month of buying the house.

Sounds like you are one of the rare people who actually understands what’s important to know about potential future costs (such as replacing old plant equipment).

Good luck with the hunt.

103 dell*nix  Jun 7, 2015 2:55:27pm

re: #15 Kragar

Notice the direction the cop at Waco is facing. That was the first thing I noted about that picture at the time. Then the lack of restraints.

Now back to the top to catch up.

104 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 3:00:07pm

re: #91 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper comment on this:

Illiterate and proud of it, judging by the pointed repetition of “ferrel.”

Probably thinks it has something to do with this guy even though he is white and uses an extra “L”:

[Embedded content]

I think the commenter is going for “feral”, as in untamed.

105 BlueGrl21  Jun 7, 2015 3:01:30pm

Husband was in San Antonio last week, saw an arrest go down, immediately pulled out the phone and filmed the whole thing. Just in case.

Cameras on all phones and everyone has started using them. No more of this bullshit. We’re all filming.

106 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:02:36pm

re: #104 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I think the commenter is going for “feral”, as in untamed.

Probably doing it consciously. That’s what passes for wordplay on Freep.

107 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:02:52pm

A screenshot of the cop’s playlist, in case he deletes that video:

108 A Cranky One  Jun 7, 2015 3:03:42pm

Visited my older daughter today, got to meet the foster kittens. Here are a couple:

Give the kitteh a hand
Palm kitteh

She counted them before we left, so we couldn’t sneak one into a pocket. ;)

109 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:03:51pm

re: #105 BlueGrl21

Husband was in San Antonio last week, saw an arrest go down, immediately pulled out the phone and filmed the whole thing. Just in case.

Cameras on all phones and everyone has started using them. No more of this bullshit. We’re all filming.

Waiting for the Nosepicker Channel on YT.

110 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 3:04:26pm

re: #105 BlueGrl21

Husband was in San Antonio last week, saw an arrest go down, immediately pulled out the phone and filmed the whole thing. Just in case.

Cameras on all phones and everyone has started using them. No more of this bullshit. We’re all filming.

ACLU app lets Android users secretly tape the police
The free app records video and audio, hides when requested and lets users send backup copies of recordings to the ACLU for safekeeping.

111 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:04:43pm

re: #108 A Cranky One

Visited my older daughter today, got to meet the foster kittens. Here are a couple:

[Embedded content]

She counted them before we left, so we couldn’t sneak one into a pocket. ;)

Those cats have been into the spice.

112 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 3:05:50pm

re: #104 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I think the commenter is going for “feral”, as in untamed.

Well, what about a gang of feral ferret youts?

113 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:06:35pm

re: #112 RealityBasedSteve

Well, what about a gang of feral ferret youts?

[Embedded content]

Furry.

114 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:07:37pm

Totally OT, but man, the condescension in this opinion piece over at the JPost is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

The guy is basically saying that what Freud supposedly said (I don’t know if he indeed did as I’m not familiar with it) is correct—namely, that Christians engage in antisemitism because they’re repressed pagans, most of whom are incapable of true monotheism and therefore resent Judaism’s ethical superiority which was foisted on them by (the Jewish) Jesus.

He goes on to assert that it’s basically the same for (Arab) Muslims:

Make anti-Semitism a source of Jewish pride

Together with their strong opposition to a Jewish state in the midst of vast Arab territory, tiny Israel becomes a thorn in their flesh especially because it has managed to keep this kind of extremism out of its own country. Israel, then, as the physical representative of Jewish moral consciousness, becomes the source of ongoing hate. […]

jpost.com

So the whole problem with antisemitism is people being jealous of Jew’s moral superiority? That’s just…. I can’t even… What an ass.

115 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 3:07:51pm

re: #108 A Cranky One

Visited my older daughter today, got to meet the foster kittens. Here are a couple:

[Embedded content]

She counted them before we left, so we couldn’t sneak one into a pocket. ;)

ZOMG!!!! That is too cute for words.

RBS

116 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 3:10:34pm

Modified the tweet to include the playlist:

117 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 3:11:24pm

re: #114 CuriousLurker

Israel, then, as the physical representative of Jewish moral consciousness

With all respect, Israel has a lot of work to do before it becomes a representative of moral consciousness. (So do all other countries.)

118 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 3:11:26pm

re: #110 Great White Snark

ACLU app lets Android users secretly tape the police
The free app records video and audio, hides when requested and lets users send backup copies of recordings to the ACLU for safekeeping.

Awesome.

119 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 3:12:14pm

re: #114 CuriousLurker

Incapable of true monotheism. Oh right, so should his promised messiah come to be, will he not have the same problem? Not even a bright bigot.

120 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 3:12:34pm

Speaking of twitter, when I search on “Duggar” guess who comes up at the top of the “Tops”.

121 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 3:13:18pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Awesome.

Thanks. Guess what got me started? Occupy LA.

122 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:14:02pm

re: #120 freetoken

Speaking of twitter, when I search on “Duggar” guess who comes up at the top of the “Tops”.

Chris Hanson?

123 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:14:17pm

re: #117 Nyet

I usually don’t even read the JPost, but the article was listed in my “church mosque” Google Alert and the title caught my eye. My jaw just kept dropping further & further toward the floor as I read it.

124 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:14:39pm
125 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:15:07pm
126 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 3:15:29pm

Also, that the equation “polytheism = barbarism” is baseless, xenophobic and plain nonsensical, hence stupid, should have become a common place by now.

127 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 3:17:11pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Chris Hanson?

Actually, it’s context sensitive. For me it is Charles, but Twitter picks him because I am following him.

In an incognito window, searching for Duggar brings up the AP story on the interview.

Which brings up a problem with social media. Twitter is designed to show you what they think you want to see, not necessarily reflecting what the totality of the tweeting universe is doing.

128 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:18:26pm
129 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 3:19:44pm

Oh God, platitudes keep piling on as I read further.

130 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 3:19:46pm

Aviation porn:

…

Flying the Typhoon Through the Mach Loop at Low Level. Filmed from the backseat of an RAF Typhoon flown by 2013 display pilot Jamie Norris on an ultra-low level sortie through the Mach Loop and the Lake District.

Note that the pilot helpfully calls out altitude and speed during the flight. At one point these are 50 feet and 480 knots (552 MPH).

131 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:19:54pm

re: #127 freetoken

Actually, it’s context sensitive. For me it is Charles, but Twitter picks him because I am following him.

In an incognito window, searching for Duggar brings up the AP story on the interview.

Which brings up a problem with social media. Twitter is designed to show you what they think you want to see, not necessarily reflecting what the totality of the tweeting universe is doing.

Context-sensitive ads are great. Mine keep asking me to make aliyah. I blame LGF.

132 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:20:54pm

Gawker has the playlist story now - but I beat them by 18 minutes.

133 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:21:55pm

re: #129 Nyet

Oh God, platitudes keep piling on as I read further.

LOL—your jaw is headed for the floor too, huh?

134 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 3:22:45pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

At this point:

Only when Jews manage to convince the world of the power of Jewish ethics, and ensure that it is taught in every classroom, church and mosque is there a chance that anti-Semitism will slowly come to an end.

135 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:24:42pm

re: #134 Nyet

At this point:

Yeah, that one made my eyes bug out too. It’s a really creepy thing to say.

136 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 3:26:57pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

Yeah, that one made my eyes bug out too. It’s a really creepy thing to say.

My memory’s not exhaustive, but I feel safe in saying that Sigmund Freud never said anything like this.

137 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 3:27:07pm

Shockingly, it looks like Freepers are actually mostly in agreement that there’s just no way to look at this video as anything but an indication that the cop was a total fucking moron. Throwing a girl who sassed him to the ground, drawing a gun to scare off two guys who tried to stop him, and then handcuffing her when she’d be released half an hour later with no charges.

There’s one or two bootlickers who are trying to take the cop’s side, but the majority of Freepers who’ve actually sat and watched the video (including one who got a link to the video from a buddy who’s a cop) agree that this asshole was in the wrong.

138 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 3:27:46pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Gawker has the playlist story now - but I beat them by 18 minutes.

See how a REAL Charles Johnson does breaking news boys and girls?

139 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:28:14pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel

Aviation porn:

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Video

Note that the pilot helpfully calls out altitude and speed during the flight. At one point these are 50 feet and 480 knots (552 MPH).

Beautiful. The RAF must audition all their pilots to get that “Spitfire-reporting-a-kill-and-requesting-more-tea-for-the-flightline” accent.

140 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 3:31:13pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel

Aviation porn:

[Embedded content]

Video

Note that the pilot helpfully calls out altitude and speed during the flight. At one point these are 50 feet and 480 knots (552 MPH).

Just watched that at full res, full screen, with the sound kicked up… Fantastic. It’s the dead calm narration that makes it for me. Like one of us describing a drive to the grocery store. (at 50 foot and 522 MPH)

RBS

141 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 3:31:48pm

Gah!

OT, but I swear to god advertising has ruined the internet.

1) No, I don’t want to take a survey before reading your content
2) No, I don’t want to SIGN UP before reading your content
3) If your page takes me FIVE minutes to load because of all the flashing, blinking banner ads, I’m not coming back to your site.
4) Even more so if the banner ad BLOCKS the content I’m trying to read!
5) I FUCKING HATE MULTI PAGE SLIDESHOWS!
6) Video auto-play is the devil
7) [News sites only] To hell with your paywall, ESPECIALLY when paid or not, your site is STILL loaded up with ads.

Even adblock doesn’t stop all of this from happening. It’s a shame to see what were formerly really good sites go down the crapper because of this nonsense.

142 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:31:50pm

re: #136 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My memory’s not exhaustive, but I feel safe in saying that Sigmund Freud never said anything like this.

I would hope not. It seems to be the author’s conclusion: “If we just reeducate all those non-Jews by going into their schools, mosques and churches to explain how ethically superior we are, then they’ll stop hating us.”

Riiiight, sure they will…. *facepalm, headdesk*

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 3:32:52pm
144 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 3:33:39pm

re: #142 CuriousLurker

(Not that Freud’s moldy theories have any relevance in the first place ;)

145 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 3:33:47pm

re: #142 CuriousLurker

I wold hope not. It seems to be the author’s conclusion: “If we just reeducate all those non-Jews by going into their schools, mosques and churches to explain how ethically superior we are, then they’ll stop hating us.”

Right, sure they will…. *facepalm, headdesk*

“Jew-Splaining” (I thought Ricky Recardo did that)

RBS

146 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 3:34:14pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And don’t forget to pick up the Limited White Edition with bonus features!

147 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2015 3:34:39pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

Gah!

OT, but I swear to god advertising has ruined a bunch of sites I used to enjoy visiting:

1) No, I don’t want to take a survey before reading your content
2) If your page takes me FIVE minutes to load because of all the flashing, blinking banner ads, I’m not coming back to your site.
3) Even more so if the banner ad BLOCKS the content I’m trying to read!
4) I FUCKING HATE MULTI PAGE SLIDESHOWS!
5) Video auto-play is the devil
6) [News sites only] To hell with your paywall, ESPECIALLY when paid or not, your site is STILL loaded up with ads.

Even adblock doesn’t stop all of this from happening. It’s a shame to see what were formerly really good sites go down the crapper because of this nonsense.

Never used an ad blocker. Advertising gives us a glance into expert opinion on what really drives a culture. It’s especially revealing overseas.

148 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 3:35:27pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s never about race…until they can find a way to blame “black culture,” then it’s totally about race.

149 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 3:36:23pm

re: #144 Nyet

To be honest I’ve never read any of his work and am only passingly familiar with it some of the terms & concepts (due mostly to their popular use).

150 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 3:38:15pm

Waiting for Bryan Fischer:

151 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 3:40:31pm

I just watched the video. I kept saying wow and started crying. My husband is sitting next to me and I’m telling him what’s going on. I get the usual dismissal. I just lost it. I told him he’s the reason most white people don’t give a damn about what’s going on. Because it’s not happening to YOU!

If you’ve watched this video and are not outraged, you’re part of the problem.

Gah! I’m pissed.

This. Has. To. Stop.

152 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 3:43:11pm

Not good.

South Korea reports 23 new cases of MERS virus; country’s total rises to 87 - @Reuters

reuters.com

153 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 3:44:53pm

Wow - the Twitter counter is already over 1,000 for this article.

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 3:45:01pm

re: #1 jaunte

That video Goldie links to is outrageous.

155 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 7, 2015 3:48:30pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Never used an ad blocker. Advertising gives us a glance into expert opinion on what really drives a culture. It’s especially revealing overseas.

I’ve noticed these “You also might be interested in” “sponsored links” purveyors are spreading like dandelions. Most of the links go to clickbait/spam sites. And the number of ad serving companies out there now are bogging down most sites I visit.

156 Varek Raith  Jun 7, 2015 3:48:54pm

re: #110 Great White Snark

ACLU app lets Android users secretly tape the police
The free app records video and audio, hides when requested and lets users send backup copies of recordings to the ACLU for safekeeping.

Telling that we now need this to keep cops honest.
What’s next, dashcams in every car like in Russia?
Sigh.

157 BishopX  Jun 7, 2015 3:50:51pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

I love those surveys. Just fill them with bad data.

158 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 3:51:21pm

Wearing a bikini and carrying a cooler while black.

159 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 3:51:45pm

re: #157 BishopX

I love those surveys. Just fill them with bad data.

Tempting, but usually I run into those when I am looking up a new article. I just want to drop in, read it and get out.

160 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 3:53:44pm

Also, this new practice of mixing editorial and advertising content together on a blog or whatever…not a fan.

161 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 3:55:28pm

Anyone notice that the kid who returned this cops flashlight to another cop, was then shoved to the ground by him??

162 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2015 3:58:45pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel

Aviation porn:

[Embedded content]

Note that the pilot helpfully calls out altitude and speed during the flight. At one point these are 50 feet and 480 knots (552 MPH).

Here’s what some of that looks like from the ground…

…

163 Tigger2  Jun 7, 2015 3:58:49pm

re: #161 Jenner7

Anyone notice that the kid who returned this cops flashlight to another cop, was then shoved to the ground by him??

Yeah saw that too.

164 Lidane  Jun 7, 2015 4:01:17pm

Reading the comments about this story on other sites is goddamn depressing. People will find any reason to rationalize why the cops were justified in doing what they did and why this incident wasn’t about race.

What. The. Fuck.

165 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 4:01:44pm

re: #149 CuriousLurker

Speaking of ethics. That article is for the most part a word for word rehash of this 2013 piece of his: jpost.com

He’s probably paid by the word, too.

166 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 4:03:06pm

re: #164 Lidane

Reading the comments about this story on other sites is goddamn depressing. People will find any reason to rationalize why the cops were justified in doing what they did and why this incident wasn’t about race.

What. The. Fuck.

I see most of those defending the cops are going by the department’s initial BS story, that these kids had broken into the pool and refused to leave when told to do so. That simply must be something illegal about a bunch of black kids being in a lily-white neighborhood.

167 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 4:05:32pm

re: #162 Pawn of the Oppressor

Here’s what some of that looks like from the ground…

[Embedded content]

Video

And you see, that’s why we need our 2nd amendment rights to keep assault weapons, so that when they come for us we can defend ourselves. Wolverines!!!!! /////…./

RBS

168 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 4:05:54pm

I’m starting to wonder if the Hunger Games is an ahead of its time Documentary…

169 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 4:06:41pm

Another video, the plot thickens.

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent.

Don’t know if this is the actual white woman in the video.

170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 4:09:56pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m starting to wonder if the Hunger Games is an ahead of its time Documentary…

The Running Man was, for sure.

171 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 4:11:56pm

What continues to stick out to me like a sore thumb is that, despite the initial story about how the kids were there illegally and jumping the fence, and the insistence that kids were being belligerent and fighting with the cops, the only person who was arrested was an adult male who was apparently getting in the way of cops going after these teens. Not a single teen was arrested or issued a citation.

172 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 4:12:52pm

Oh and another internet ad gripe: When I can’t even get a page to load properly because the adservers that connect to the page won’t load worth shit.

Yeah, that.

173 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 4:14:47pm
174 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 4:16:21pm
175 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 4:18:12pm

re: #165 Nyet

Speaking of ethics. That article is for the most part a word for word rehash of this 2013 piece of his: jpost.com

He’s probably paid by the word, too.

His smug tone and arrogant prejudice are appalling. Ugh.

176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 4:18:37pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

You know, even if I were as big an asshole as this guy is, I’d let things simmer down for a few days before I did that….

177 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 7, 2015 4:18:49pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh and another internet ad gripe: When I can’t even get a page to load properly because the adservers that connect to the page won’t load worth shit.

Yeah, that.

Yep. So many connections going out and coming back in makes load times go crazy.

178 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 4:22:53pm
179 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 4:24:42pm

re: #178 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I agree with one tweet, I very much doubt the management put up that sign.

180 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 4:25:02pm

This whole sad spectacle proves that many in police think they’re going into battle when they go to work. It’s not about protecting and serving the community. It’s about battle, engaging the enemy. Militarization. A whole culture has to be changed, and that shit ain’t gonna happen overnight. It’ll take hundreds, if not thousands, of these videos to get the whole body politic on board with steering police culture away from militarization and towards protecting and serving communities.

The racial element is also very troubling. I’m convinced if all those kids were white, nothing would have happened.

181 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 4:25:17pm

re: #165 Nyet

Speaking of ethics. That article is for the most part a word for word rehash of this 2013 piece of his: jpost.com

He’s probably paid by the word, too.

I just looked at his photo on his author page—he must be a major fan boy. LOL

182 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 4:28:33pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh and another internet ad gripe: When I can’t even get a page to load properly because the adservers that connect to the page won’t load worth shit.

Yeah, that.

Wonkette is one of the sites that’s becoming unreadable due to all the advertising BS. I don’t understand why web managers want to make money by making their site an unpleasant mess. I usually bail out before I’ve had a chance to read their stories.

183 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 4:28:41pm

re: #180 teleskiguy

There has to be a better way to filter out the police recruits who want to be ninjas.

184 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 4:28:58pm

Imagine the wingnut outrage had cops done it to the drunken, brawling Palins.

185 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 4:31:17pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh and another internet ad gripe: When I can’t even get a page to load properly because the adservers that connect to the page won’t load worth shit.

Yeah, that.

re: #182 stpaulbear

Wonkette is one of the sites that’s becoming unreadable due to all the advertising BS. I don’t understand why web managers want to make money by making their site an unpleasant mess. I usually bail out before I’ve had a chance to read their stories.

Adblock Plus.

186 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 4:31:49pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

Thank you for keeping us safe white.

187 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 4:32:02pm

Other websites that previously included Eric Casebolt are also being scrubbed.

188 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 4:34:09pm
189 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 7, 2015 4:36:02pm

This shit is so depressing. I’m going to take my dog out for a walk and get some fresh air. Later Lizards.

190 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 4:39:40pm

The whole DFW Metrogalopolex - as Shiplord Kirel so awesomely worded it - is a fucking suburban wasteland. 200 miles end to end of tract homes, strip malls, muffler shops, dirty book stores, truck stops, more strip malls, even more tract homes that all fucking look the same. I thought Denver was bad.

191 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 4:39:50pm

We just enjoyed delicious Boof Halloween for dinner.

192 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 4:40:01pm

re: #188 jaunte

Someone told the kid to copyright the picture. Smart move.

193 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 4:44:18pm

re: #191 Lord Of The Pies

We just enjoyed delicious Boof Halloween for dinner.

That is a GREAT story… I really was pulled into it, trying to think what it could be. Thanks.

RBS

194 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 4:45:03pm

re: #192 Eric The Fruit Bat

Someone told the kid to copyright the picture. Smart move.

It’s definitely iconic.

195 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 4:45:40pm
196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 4:46:57pm

Cuteness break:

197 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 4:46:59pm

re: #191 Lord Of The Pies

We just enjoyed delicious Boof Halloween for dinner.

On a side note, I remember when wings were the cheapest thing in the meat section. You got them mainly for stock, or because you were really really broke. Now they run higher than boneless breast fillets. I don’t even want to figure what the price per pound is for the meat on them. :) I’ll just keep buying them and eating them.

Memo to self: Develop a genetically altered chicken with about 4 wings per side.

198 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 4:47:10pm

I saw some of you commenting that it is good these police incidents are caught on camera. Amen.

What is interesting about this video to me is this might be considered an ordinary police call. Some kids trying to get into a pool. It should be sort of routine. Go out, check what is going on and take care of the issue. Easy.

But no, the cops go in with an attitude and it all gets out of control DUE TO THE POLICE. And what is the attitude? Black kids…automatic trouble makers, do not mess with them, take control of the situation because you know how ‘they can be!’ Do not asses the situation, control it any means necessary.

If you are white this would have been no big deal. This same daily occurrence would have been over in 2 minutes if it was an all white group of ‘good kids from a good neighborhood.’

If you are black an ordinary kid type activity can turn into a major deal and your kids can have a gun pulled on them and be treated like criminals even though there really is no crime.

I’ve seen that happen here in Columbus with too many kids gathering in one of the parks. No problem until the cops show up to move them out. Can’t they just roll up and watch? The kids know they are there. They will chill…probably move along. No, the police have to make a point and put on a demonstration of who has the power.

If we are building a database of these incidents, I bet this one would be seen by people of color as being just another police call on African Americans, Hispanics and probably kids that could be seen as ‘Muslims’ even if the are just dark skinned. But mostly for Blacks…they see this all the damn time.

White folks need this kind of example because anyone with a brain can see there was no big deal here. The cops made it into one. Now that I bet happens 100 times a day or more in this country. Hopefully we all start to see more and more so people can no longer excuse it as rare or the kids deserved it, the must have been doing something wrong.

And people wonder why police forces were ever called pigs or bulls.

199 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 4:51:55pm

re: #185 Lord Of The Pies

Electric Cyborg mentioned that in comment 141.
re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

200 Nyet  Jun 7, 2015 4:53:42pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

And then it spits.

201 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 4:55:50pm

Just don’t invite Dick Cheney.

202 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 4:56:12pm

The state police have jurisdiction over these local yokels. So do sheriffs, as wingnuts famously point out (though their jurisdiction is only over sub-jurisdictions within the county, not the feds or the state).
There really are state troopers and sheriffs who would bring this shit to a screeching halt, but they have little capacity to do so because of Perry-site cutbacks and analogous cost cutting by wingnut county commissions.

203 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 4:57:24pm

re: #201 Lord Of The Pies

“No purchase, payment, or contribution necessary to enter or win. Contributing will not improve chances of winning.”

Well that’s a GOP first.

204 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 5:00:12pm

If it wasn’t caught on tape, would you support him, Dana?

205 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 7, 2015 5:00:17pm

re: #203 jaunte

Well that’s a GOP first.

I think that’s actually the law regarding raffles, that there has to be a way for someone who can’t purchase X to be able to enter. It’s in the fine print for all the contests run by McDonalds and such.

206 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:01:01pm

re: #205 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Yes, just joking.

207 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:01:42pm

re: #204 Lord Of The Pies

If it wasn’t caught on tape, would you support him, Dana?

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If the video didn’t exist and it was just the cop’s word against the kids’ word, Dana would be backing the cop, of course.

208 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:02:02pm

McKinney TX F.O.P. Facebook page is now unavailable.

209 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:02:27pm

re: #204 Lord Of The Pies

It’s striking how every tweet posted by Dana Loesch has a sneering tone to it.

210 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 5:04:03pm

The particular officer’s objective was to beat up some N[clang!]

211 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:05:36pm

re: #204 Lord Of The Pies

the McKinney officer’s behavior as caught on tape was uncalled for

Actually, someone did call for it. They wanted the police to scare those kids out of their neighborhood, whatever they had to do.

212 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 5:06:59pm

re: #210 Lord Of The Pies

The particular officer’s objective was to beat up some N[clang!]

Dana Loesch ✔@DLoesch
What I don’t understand is this particular officer’s objective: crowd dispersal or detainment? Are reports accurate re what started it?

I’m unclear on that myself. You don’t tell a crowd to go home, then run after them when they take off on their way.

213 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:07:40pm

re: #210 Lord Of The Pies

Are reports accurate re what started it?

Is she asking for a theory more helpful in blaming those people?

214 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 5:08:20pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

And some good universities, museums, and the white kids who went after the woman who was making the racist comments.

In other words, as the fourth largest metropolitan area in the country, it’s a lot like every other place. Specifically, when I go to some of the suburbs of Chicago, I cannot tell I’m not in the Dallas area.

215 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 5:09:45pm

Well, that was different.

The National Anthem for the Cavs/Warriors NBA game was Carlos Sanatana on guitar and I think Cindy Blackman, the African American woman who played drums with Lenny Kravitz. At least that’s who I think was the drummer, they never gave her name sadly, and they didn’t show her closely. Sure looked like her.

Anyone see that and know for sure?

216 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:10:31pm

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel

I’m unclear on that myself. You don’t tell a crowd to go home, then run after them when they take off on their way.

Detained for too-slow or too-rapid dispersal.

217 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2015 5:11:08pm

re: #216 jaunte

I’m unclear on that myself. You don’t tell a crowd to go home, then run after them when they take off on their way.

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Detained for too-slow or too-rapid dispersal.

Are we sure the cop’s name isn’t Goldilocks?

//

218 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:12:06pm

re: #217 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Eric Cartman?

219 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 5:12:50pm

Was wondering this myself. Who are these white adults allowed assisting cops??

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 5:14:14pm
221 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 5:14:50pm

So being thrown to the ground, sat on by an officer and then cuffed just for backtalking?

Also it looks like the officer sexually assaulted a minor while he had her down on the ground and his knee on her back.

222 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:14:51pm

Duck Dynasty fan afraid of black 14 year olds.

223 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 5:15:03pm

re: #219 Jenner7

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Was wondering this myself. Who are these white adults allowed assisting cops??

They’re the right kind of people.

224 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 5:15:07pm

Well look at that a Google search turned up this…

Carlos Santana and wife Cindy Blackman Santana will perform the national anthem before Game 2 of the NBA Finals between the Warriors and the Cavaliers, according to an NBA spokesman. Blackman Santana may be better known as Lenny Kravitz’s longtime drummer.

I did not know he was married to her.

225 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 5:16:08pm

re: #201 Lord Of The Pies

I’d sign up - and if I’d won I’d make his day absolutely miserable. He might have been a great debater, but conservative lawyers tend to be very skeevy people.

226 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 5:16:11pm

McKinney PD called because black kids. Not because white racist woman started a fight with a few of the kids.

Tell me I’m wrong.

227 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:16:51pm

Finished binge-watching season 1 of Banshee on Amazon Prime. Thinking about buying season 2, because this is a great series.

228 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 5:17:31pm

re: #222 jaunte

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Duck Dynasty fan afraid of black 14 year olds.

lol. The sign maker had to fix the word “keeping” on that sign.

229 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 5:17:49pm

re: #222 jaunte

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Duck Dynasty fan afraid of black 14 year olds.

Keepink?

230 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2015 5:17:54pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol. The sign maker had to fix the word “keeping” on that sign.

They wanted to add more Ks.

231 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:18:07pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s so used to writing three k’s in a row it just slipped in there.

232 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:18:10pm

You can tell, at the end of the video when Eric Casebolt is lecturing the polite youths sitting on the ground, Mr. Casebolt is jacked, adrenaline coursing through his veins. I speak from experience. As a connoisseur of adrenaline sports I know what it’s like to get jacked on adrenaline, and Mr. Casebolt fits the description to a T.

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 5:18:50pm
234 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 5:20:20pm
235 lockjawcanbefun  Jun 7, 2015 5:20:49pm

re: #222 jaunte

Looks like the same sign seen in #179.

236 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:21:29pm

re: #235 lockjawcanbefun

Yes, I’ll bet it’s his, not the pool management’s.

237 andres  Jun 7, 2015 5:23:59pm

re: #47 BigPapa

She me on this doll where the lieberal media touched you.

I still like Lewis Black response to McCain in the 2008 campaign (don’t remember the details): “In this doll, can you [McCain] show me where did you pulled out that claim?”

238 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 5:24:11pm

The cop was using some seriously bad language to kids who looked like they were no older than 11 or 12. This would have gotten you fired instantly when I was a rural cop in California 35 years ago.

Police conduct wasn’t perfect then either but damn, sometimes I just shake my head in disbelief at the stuff that goes on now, and especially at the citizens who support it so enthusiastically.
Crime has been rolled back to the 1966 rate yet these people are scared literally out of their minds, willing to accept any level of police state abuse for a completely imaginary margin of safety.

239 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 5:24:33pm

I know it is off topic, but I wonder how many people that saw that National Anthem for the NBA finals are calling the NBA complaining about disrespecting the anthem. And to add drums to noisy guitars.

UnAmerican! What is this country coming too???

(Call the police…/)

240 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:27:33pm

re: #235 lockjawcanbefun

Looks like the same sign seen in #179.

Definitely the same sign - has the same mistake.

241 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:27:55pm

You know that bar is set really really low when people are saying about what happened in McKinney, TX on Friday, “Well, at least no one got killed.”

242 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 5:28:34pm

re: #208 jaunte

That’s because it has been edited and Mr. Casebolt’s name has been apparently been scrubbed.

243 #FergusonFireside  Jun 7, 2015 5:29:32pm

re: #235 lockjawcanbefun

Looks like the same sign seen in #179.

Yeah, the grass is an interesting choice.

244 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 5:29:45pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

The cop was using some seriously bad language to kids who looked like they were no older than 11 or 12. This would have gotten you fired instantly when I was a rural cop in California 35 years ago.

Police conduct wasn’t perfect then either but damn, sometimes I just shake my head in disbelief at the stuff that goes on now, and especially at the citizens who support it so enthusiastically.
Crime has been rolled back to the 1966 rate yet these people are scared literally out of their minds, willing to accept any level of police state abuse for a completely imaginary margin of safety.

That was a point that was made by a couple of Freepers on one thread I was reading, that you can tell the cop had lost control of the situation when he started swearing at these kids. The other cops were acting professional, while this jackass had apparently lost his cool and decided he was going to show these kids who was in charge.

245 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2015 5:29:51pm

re: #204 Lord Of The Pies

If it wasn’t caught on tape, would you support him, Dana?

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With “fake rape” comes “fake brutality”. I am calling before Charles does.

246 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:30:28pm

The only reason Casebolt would have added that video to his “police training” playlist is because he thought he had done nothing wrong. He was planning to use it as another example of good police training.

247 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:30:38pm

If I’ve learned anything since Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, MO last summer, it’s that White Privilege is a real thing in the United States. Any white person that denies that I’d have to judge them as intellectually inferior and probably a total asshole.

248 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 5:31:09pm

This video clearly shows the black girl (the one who was later thrown to the ground & assaulted by the police officer) being attacked by 2 white women, but Dana Loesch thinks the black girl started it.

249 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:32:41pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

The only reason Casebolt would have added that video to his “police training” playlist is because he thought he had done nothing wrong. He was planning to use it as another example of good police training.

That’s grotesque, and probably accurate.

And how about that last name, Casebolt. Truth is always stranger than fiction.

250 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 5:33:15pm

re: #248 Lord Of The Pies

Omg, I didn’t know that was the same girl. Wow. Assaulted twice in one day. Insane.

251 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 5:33:42pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

The only reason Casebolt would have added that video to his “police training” playlist is because he thought he had done nothing wrong. He was planning to use it as another example of good police training.

Beyond thinks he did nothing wrong, thinks its an example to follow. Yeesh

252 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 5:34:50pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

Yep. He was proud of it.

253 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 5:36:10pm

Dana Loesch is promoting this person’s timeline:

254 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:37:20pm

I seriously doubt that we’ll get any straight answers about what happened from the police in McKinney, TX. I’m not sure how internal police investigations work. Do they hire an outside agency to investigate, do interviews, etc. when an officer is suspended? Or is it handled internally?

255 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 5:38:56pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

If I’ve learned anything since Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, MO last summer, it’s that White Privilege is a real thing in the United States. Any white person that denies that I’d have to judge them as intellectually inferior and probably a total asshole.

I know you are younger, but do you have a feel for how what you said sounds to many of us that are boomers and have been around since the 50s?

I’m like…where you been?

And that is not to bust on you, Just the perspective and the times.

And then too, as I have posted many times…I grew up in a mixed neighborhood and played with and had many African American friends, neighbors and even a business partner. Lord knows I’ve known there was white privilege since I was old enough to figure it out. I would say 10 years old if not sooner…1964 or so.

Again…no offense to you. It’s a damn good lesson no matter when you learn it, but a lesson that shouldn’t have to be. It has been an issue for people of color for a damn long time.

256 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 5:39:25pm
257 Archangelus  Jun 7, 2015 5:41:33pm

A trained man in uniform who manages to feel threatened by an unarmed little girl half his size needs to seriously look back on his life and at the very least reconsider his career decisions…

258 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:44:54pm

re: #255 ObserverArt

I know you are younger, but do you have a feel for how what you said sounds to many of us that are boomers and have been around since the 50s?

I’m like…where you been?

And that is not to bust on you, Just the perspective and the times.

And then too, as I have posted many times…I grew up in a mixed neighborhood and played with and had many African American friends, neighbors and even a business partner. Lord knows I’ve known there was white privilege since I was old enough to figure it out. I would say 10 years old if not sooner…1964 or so.

Again…no offense to you. It’s a damn good lesson no matter when you learn it, but a lesson that shouldn’t have to be. It has been an issue for people of color for a damn long time.

I have lived a fairly placid and fun-filled existence on this planet, skiing 90 days a year since I was 18, etc. Born and raised in the Rocky Mountains, lily white all the way, to this day. That’s my perspective.

And it’s not that I never knew there was White Privilege in the United States before Michael Brown was murdered. The digital age has brought it out to bare for all to see. However I would venture that if I were a kid growing up in Aspen in the 60s or 70s, before the digital age, I’d be willing to bet that I would be pretty clueless as to race relations in the real world.

259 andres  Jun 7, 2015 5:45:04pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Woah… is the world ending?

/

260 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 5:45:19pm
261 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 5:46:21pm

re: #258 teleskiguy

I have lived a fairly placid and fun-filled existence on this planet, skiing 90 days a year since I was 18, etc. Born and raised in the Rocky Mountains, lily white all the way, to this day. That’s my perspective.

And it’s not that I never knew there was White Privilege in the United States before Michael Brown was murdered. The digital age has brought it out to bare for all to see. However I would venture that if I were a kid growing up in Aspen in the 60s or 70s, before the digital age, I’d be willing to bet that I would be pretty clueless as to race relations in the real world.

I understand.

262 freetoken  Jun 7, 2015 5:49:05pm

Libertine Canadians angering spirits around the world:

Naked Canadian, European Tourists Blamed For Deadly Malaysia Earthquake

A group of 10 tourists from Europe and Canada who recently stripped naked at the peak of Mount Kinabalu in Malaysia are being blamed by a local official for causing a deadly earthquake that hit the country on Friday.

[…]

Pairin: Naked tourist brought on mountain’s wrath

The earthquake that has so far claimed 11 lives here was caused by the sacrilegious act of a group of Europeans who stripped naked on the peak of Mount Kinabalu, according to Deputy Chief Minister Tan Sri Joseph Pairin Kitingan.

The Huguon Siou (paramount leader of the Kadazandusun) condemned the “uncivilised” and disrespectful actions of the 10 Europeans, and called for the culprits to be brought to a native court and charged according to local customs.

“Whether other people believe this or not, it’s what we Sabahans believe. When the earthquake happened, it’s like a confirmation of our beliefs.

[…]

Can someone really believe that stuff?

Yes, but in this case there is another side to this story, sad and serious:

Sabah earthquake: Singapore students among 16 Mount Kinabalu dead as crews search ‘river of stones’; rescuers criticised for slow response

Six Singapore primary school students and one teacher are among the 16 people confirmed killed by an earthquake that rocked Malaysia’s Mount Kinabalu, Malaysian officials say.

[…]

The Sabah minister has also had to field criticism from climbers that search and rescue efforts were ineffective for hours after the Friday quake.

Climber Vee Jin Dumlao labelled the rescue effort “a farce”.

[…]

Sounds to me like local officials are using superstition to get the spotlight off themselves.

263 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 5:52:41pm

Fuckin’ aye right I am so goddamned glad that UpChuck isn’t on Twitter anymore. We’d be talking about him here if he were able to spew his bile.

264 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 5:55:06pm

I was tempted to post tweets imitating what Chuck might have said about this incident, but when I started imagining what he would say, and how he would think about it, I grossed myself right the fuck out.

265 goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2015 5:58:57pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Seems like every other day a story comes out where I’m really glad he’s not on Twitter anymore. Dude is toxic as all fuck. Amazing how effectively getting thrown off the service shut him the hell down. He’s not even trying.

266 unproven innocence  Jun 7, 2015 6:01:38pm

re: #260 jaunte

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Fight-or-flight decisions are critical survival instincts that have evolved in humans and other creatures, over many millennia. I do believe that US LEOs routinely receive advanced training in how to abuse those instincts, and that this may be at the heart of most of the problems between police and the public.

267 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 6:01:44pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Try watching his interview on the Joe Rogan Podcast earlier this year. You’ll need to mainline fentanyl and midazolam not to go and want to punch your monitor out. His skeeviness and sliminess is amazing.

The latest few updates from the genius threatracking website chuckcjohnson.info:

6/4/2015 ~5:00 PM: “I intend to sue Gawker over the summer, I intend to sue Politico and a number of other publications who made up things about my past to try to marginalize my work… it has caused me some damages.” As for Twitter, “I intend to fight it on discrimination grounds, on contract grounds, on FCC guidelines…” [Source: Chuck C. Johnson, interview with “A Voice For Men”]
5/31/2015 11:27 PM: Apparently Alan Dershowitz is “helping” to sue Twitter and there are other lawsuits coming (which we assume means libel suits.) [Source: Chuck C. Johnson on the John and Leah Show.]

(Time to get back to (ugh) processing his Twitter timeline into someting easier to handle….)

268 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 6:03:07pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

I was tempted to post tweets imitating what Chuck might have said about this incident, but when I started imagining what he would say, and how he would think about it, I grossed myself right the fuck out.

That’s because you are rational person with a finely developed sense of right and wrong, and are empathetic to others. In other words, Charles, you are the Anti-Chuck.

RBS

269 unproven innocence  Jun 7, 2015 6:08:35pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

I was tempted to post tweets imitating what Chuck might have said about this incident, but when I started imagining what he would say, and how he would think about it, I grossed myself right the fuck out.

I’m surprised that you seem to miss him.

270 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 6:10:55pm
271 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 6:11:41pm

Don’t kid yourselves folks: Segregation still exists in America. It’s not officially legal and it’s not as explicit as it once was but it’s still there. There are still plenty of places black people just shouldn’t go to because it’s too dangerous.

Because they’re not wanted.

Because they are seen as inferior.

Or as criminals.

The Civil Rights struggle is NOT over.

Look at how it is with the police: Different rules for different ethnicities. We’ve seen it again and again and again and again.

Segregation plain and simple. Just look at the word:

Segregation

the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart.

the enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.

Welcome to the greatest country in the world 2015.

272 De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2015 6:12:09pm

And the Tony Award for Eternally Hot goes to…

273 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:13:32pm

re: #270 CuriousLurker

Now deleted YouTube acct of #McKinney Cpl had video of pool incident uploaded to playlist

It still showing up for me, playlists and all.

274 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2015 6:17:35pm

re: #273 teleskiguy

It still showing up for me, playlists and all.

I didn’t actually check, just passed it along (I’m headed for the sack).

Later, lizards.

275 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 6:21:11pm

re: #269 unproven innocence

I’m surprised that you seem to miss him.

Hardly.

276 nearly-headless smith25  Jun 7, 2015 6:24:40pm

Wow. Just Wow. Black kids don’t make the water dirty. But the pool seems to be a place of extra White Privilege. When I saw the tweets pop up all day it reminded me of this picture. Owner pouring acid into the water.

Swim-in 1964
277 De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2015 6:25:06pm

De Kolta Chair’s Book Of The Month Club pick:

For fans and non-fans alike of Ol’ Boney (personally, I’m in the camp of the former), this is an essential read. Order it from your library today, or better yet buy a copy and help the author put even more food on his table. He’s earned it.

278 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:25:47pm

re: #276 nearly-headless smith25

Wow. Just Wow. Black kids don’t make the water dirty. But the pool seems to be a place of extra White Privilege. When I saw the tweets pop up all day it reminded me of this picture.

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I swear, you just harshed my mellow.

279 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:27:00pm

WTF. Isn’t it the 21st century?

What the hell is wrong with people?

Can’t we all just get along? Why be hostile?

280 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:28:42pm

I blame the Chuck Johnsons of the world.

281 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 6:30:17pm

Shhh. Don’t tell a lot of fundamentalist religious white people. But, Jesus is coming back the next time as a Black woman!

I wonder What Will Jesus Do (WWJD!) this time?

282 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 6:31:14pm

re: #279 Justanotherhuman

WTF. Isn’t it the 21st century?

What the hell is wrong with people?

Can’t we all just get along? Why be hostile?

It is. The problem is all of the people from the 20th century didn’t die off on January 1, 200x (where x is 0 or 1 depending on where you want to start it).

283 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:32:40pm

re: #282 Belafon

Not everybody. Save the good ones. : )

284 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 6:33:08pm

re: #281 ObserverArt

Shhh. Don’t tell a lot of fundamentalist religious white people. But, Jesus is coming back the next time as a Black woman!

I wonder What Will Jesus Do (WWJD!) this time?

God’s already come back as a black stand-up comedian. Pretty good book by Michael Boatman of, among other things, Spin City.

285 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 6:33:23pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

I was tempted to post tweets imitating what Chuck might have said about this incident, but when I started imagining what he would say, and how he would think about it, I grossed myself right the fuck out.

And then people would think you were him and they would be all like WTF ISN’T HE BANNED FOR LIFE!!!! WHY IS HE BACK ON TWITTER and you don’t want to bring that pile of shit down on you.

286 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 6:34:28pm

re: #283 Justanotherhuman

True, there are a number of us from that century, but 21st century America still has a lot of the bad 20th century America hanging around.

287 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:34:31pm
288 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:34:35pm

littlegreenfootballs.com

289 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 6:34:49pm

Dana knows whose side to be on:

290 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:36:19pm

Street flooding near my old hood in Denver right now. Blue sky sunshine where I’m at now. Continental Divide.

291 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 6:37:54pm
292 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:38:35pm

re: #289 Lord Of The Pies

Those kids had guest invitations. A 15 yr old white guy is going to be on CNN to explain how they got there and who invited them. He’s sounded in the reports as though he may live there and is the person who invited them. He was really pissed at their treatment.

The adults acted like asses.

293 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:40:22pm

re: #291 Jenner7

It doesn’t even show up in our RSS feed.

Fuckin’ Fox News, man.

294 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 6:40:41pm

re: #292 Justanotherhuman

I tweeted just a little bit ago:

295 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 6:40:53pm

re: #289 Lord Of The Pies

Dana knows whose side to be on:

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Gee, what do you wanna bet the odds are that the assholes claiming the kids “invaded” the pool, jumped the fence, and were engaged in other illegal or unseemly activities are the same folks who were out there telling them to get out and go back to their “Section 8 housing”?

296 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 6:41:10pm
297 De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2015 6:41:28pm
This afternoon, Mole Man (R-100 Miles Beneath The Earth’s Surface) announced that he has established an exploratory committee for a possible presidential bid for the GOP nomination.
298 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:41:43pm

re: #291 Jenner7

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Holy shit, did you read that? What a pile of crap.

299 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:43:02pm

Ah the perks of being a pro skier. I see this guy all the time in the shop, he’s a local. Got to drive this all around Colorado the last three days.

300 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 6:44:53pm

And again, if the people at that party were not from the community and had entered without permission, why did none of them end up either arrested or at least cited for trespassing?

301 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:46:07pm

re: #300 Targetpractice

You see how these racist bastards are?

This is just unacceptable. They must think everyone is as stupid and racist as they are.

302 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 6:47:07pm

OT, I made this meme, feel free to use.

303 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:48:31pm

Two inches of rain in some places in Denver in just an hour or so. Yikes.

304 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 6:48:56pm

re: #301 Justanotherhuman

You see how these racist bastards are?

This is just unacceptable. They must think everyone is as stupid and racist as they are.

And if not as stupid, at least turn a blind eye for your kind.

/

305 De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2015 6:49:02pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

Ah the perks of being a pro skier. I see this guy all the time in the shop, he’s a local. Got to drive this all around Colorado the last three days.

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At first I thought that was former meh tennis player now meh coach Brad Gilbert. ;-)

306 Justanotherhuman  Jun 7, 2015 6:49:12pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…and don’t let the bastards get you down. : )

307 b_sharp  Jun 7, 2015 6:49:29pm

re: #93 Lord Of The Pies

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I gain weight just viewing your pics.

308 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:50:24pm
309 De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2015 6:50:27pm

re: #306 Justanotherhuman

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…and don’t let the bastards get you down. : )

Sweet dreams
310 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 6:53:43pm

re: #302 Lord Of The Pies

With all respect, that is pretty weak. Caitlyn Jenner affects the lives of lots of people who don’t have sex with her.

311 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 6:54:39pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

I remember hearing Bono the first time and thinking it was Cher!

312 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 6:55:47pm

re: #298 Justanotherhuman

Police reports on the stolen truck and home invasions or it didn’t happen.

313 Unabogie  Jun 7, 2015 6:57:00pm

re: #291 Jenner7

Oh, for fuck sake. They just never stop. “It’s not about race” right before he says “these people”. Fucking racist hick.

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 7, 2015 6:58:09pm

re: #197 RealityBasedSteve

On a side note, I remember when wings were the cheapest thing in the meat section. You got them mainly for stock, or because you were really really broke. Now they run higher than boneless breast fillets. I don’t even want to figure what the price per pound is for the meat on them. :) I’ll just keep buying them and eating them.

Memo to self: Develop a genetically altered chicken with about 4 wings per side.

More likely to get something already multi-limbed modded to produce chicken-ish meat.

315 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 6:58:13pm
316 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 6:58:22pm

Notice this white dude is allowed to walk around next to this officer, but when the black kids come to defend their friend from being assaulted, he pulls the gun.

317 Unabogie  Jun 7, 2015 6:58:51pm

re: #296 Jenner7

And there it is. But hey, it’s “not about race” just because he calls black people “n*****”.

318 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 6:58:57pm

re: #310 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

With all respect, that is pretty weak. Caitlyn Jenner affects the lives of lots of people who don’t have sex with her.

But she is really not affecting the lives of the people who are screaming on Twitter that JENNER IS DESTROYING EVERYBODY’S LIFE!!!!!!

319 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 6:59:27pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

My friend Dave. We only see each other at Umphrey’s McGee shows. Weird that.

320 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 6:59:32pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

Why did he draw grass on the bottom?? lol

321 #FergusonFireside  Jun 7, 2015 7:00:43pm

re: #320 Jenner7

Why did he draw grass on the bottom?? lol

Seriously.

322 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 7:01:05pm

re: #291 Jenner7

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And again, not a single arrest, despite all the alleged illegal activities. Nobody arrested for alcohol or weed, which seems odd since I doubt any of those in the video is over 21. Scaring the white folks and their kids, yet no arrests for that. Jumping the fence, i.e. trespassing, yet again no arrests. I doubt this fuckhead can explain how the cops completely failed to catch anybody for these supposed violations of the law. So either he’s a liar or the cops are.

323 Unabogie  Jun 7, 2015 7:01:31pm

re: #320 Jenner7

Because he just learned how.

324 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 7:01:58pm

re: #316 Jenner7

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Notice this white dude is allowed to walk around next to this officer, but when the black kids come to defend their friend from being assaulted, he pulls the gun.

Cops assumed black kids didn’t belong there and assumed they were the problem and aggressors.

325 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 7:02:38pm

re: #318 Lord Of The Pies

But she is really not affecting the lives of the people who are screaming on Twitter that JENNER IS DESTROYING EVERYBODY’S LIFE!!!!!!

Without a doubt. However, VB’s meme falls far short of what you just said.

326 Unabogie  Jun 7, 2015 7:03:22pm

re: #324 BigPapa

Cops assumed black kids didn’t belong there and assumed they were the problem and aggressors.

Bingo.

327 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 7:03:49pm

re: #311 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I remember hearing Bono the first time and thinking it was Cher!

I feel the same way when I hear The Verve’s Bittersweet Symphony. It always sounds like Sonny and Cher singing over and Enja track.

328 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 7:05:00pm
329 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 7:05:01pm

re: #324 BigPapa

Cops assumed black kids didn’t belong there and assumed they were the problem and aggressors.

Same thing happens at Halloween. We have black neighbors but everybody assumes that every black kid they see took the bus from North Philly or piled out of a minivan with twenty other you know what kids.

330 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 7:06:31pm
331 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 7, 2015 7:09:14pm

re: #162 Pawn of the Oppressor

Reminds me of days long past when the Glenview Naval Air Station in Glenview, IL was still open. Every 2nd year for the Chicago Air and Water Show, the Blue Angels would fly out of there. Tons of us would sit at the roadside past the end of the runway on Lehigh Avenue to watch them take off/land over us. Awestruck. So loud too. The extra pilot even hit afterburners straight over us and knocked drinks over that were on the hood of our cars. Nobody cared.

Buch of other Naval planes throughout the year too. Stealth fighters were wicked cool to see.

332 CleverToad  Jun 7, 2015 7:11:03pm

re: #303 teleskiguy

Crikey, just went and looked at the pics of the flooding on I-70. Other end of town from me — down here in Centennial we just got spatters.

333 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 7:15:03pm
334 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2015 7:15:16pm

niterz, lizards.

335 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 7:16:02pm

re: #332 CleverToad

Crikey, just went and looked at the pics of the flooding on I-70. Other end of town from me — down here in Centennial we just got spatters.

Most terrifying commute of my life occurred during one of those downpours. Monaco south of Colfax turned into a river. I ended up following a huge lifted truck through the flooded intersections, dude made a big enough wake for me to drive through.

336 Lord Of The Pies  Jun 7, 2015 7:18:35pm
337 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 7:22:15pm

re: #331 GlutenFreeJesus

Reminds me of days long past when the Glenview Naval Air Station in Glenview, IL was still open. Every 2nd year for the Chicago Air and Water Show, the Blue Angels would fly out of there. Tons of us would sit at the roadside past the end of the runway on Lehigh Avenue to watch them take off/land over us. Awestruck. So loud too. The extra pilot even hit afterburners straight over us and knocked drinks over that were on the hood of our cars. Nobody cared.

Buch of other Naval planes throughout the year too. Stealth fighters were wicked cool to see.

The Blue Angels have never been the same since they stopped flying the Douglas A4 Skyhawk. They were designed to carry a Fat Man type atomic bomb slung underneath—10,500 lbs., remember—without it, they had the thrust to do some real maneuvers.

338 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 7:29:49pm
339 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 7:30:47pm
340 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 7:34:43pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

White, Christian 5 year olds.

It beats the pro-molester faction winning. All Freepers are creepers, to be sure, but in this rare case there was one faction that was noticeably less bad than the other.

341 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 7:35:30pm

re: #339 Jenner7

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Unfortunately for him, unlike Darren Wilson, his superiors didn’t give him a head start before they released his name.

342 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 7:37:14pm

re: #341 Targetpractice

Unfortunately for him, unlike Darren Wilson, his superiors didn’t give him a head start before they released his name.

Also, unlike Darren Wilson he (thank God!) didn’t kill anybody. Though he sure it made it seem like he wanted to.

343 CleverToad  Jun 7, 2015 7:37:34pm

re: #335 teleskiguy

Yeah, I remember when the Valley Highway used to turn into a river in the low, narrow stretch near Downing. Rarer since they widened it and put in the light rail tracks.

Tuesday’s forecast doesn’t list thunderstorms, amazingly enough! Goes right back into the cycle on Wednesday, of course.

G’night all, from the less-soggy end of the Denver metroplex.

344 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 7:38:29pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, unlike Darren Wilson he (thank God!) didn’t kill anybody. Though he sure it made it seem like he wanted to.

I think he was panicking.

345 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 7:38:51pm

And there you have it. Officer Eric Casebolt’s YouTube account is now deleted.

346 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 7:39:53pm

re: #339 Jenner7

I know “Respect My Authority Rage Boy” is a bit clunky, but this cop acted like a rage boy and I think it appropriate to call him one.

347 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 7:40:17pm

re: #341 Targetpractice

Unfortunately for him, unlike Darren Wilson, his superiors didn’t give him a head start before they released his name.

This may turn out different. There’s no way to sell these kids as any kind of threat—and it turns out they were invited. Of course the usual suspects will try their damndest, but maybe it won’t stick with the general public.

I’m probably too optimistic….

348 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 7:41:03pm

re: #345 teleskiguy

And there you have it. Officer Eric Casebolt’s YouTube account is now deleted.

He closed the door to the sty, but the pig already got loose.

349 danarchy  Jun 7, 2015 7:42:51pm

re: #347 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This may turn out different. There’s no way to sell these kids as any kind of threat—and it turns out they were invited. Of course the usual suspects will try their damndest, but maybe it won’t stick with the general public.

I’m probably too optimistic….

If he gets fired I’ll be shocked, he’ll get a slap on the wrist maybe even be suspended without pay, but if the union lets him go down for this I will eat my shoe.

350 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 7:42:57pm

re: #347 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This may turn out different. There’s no way to sell these kids as any kind of threat—and it turns out they were invited. Of course the usual suspects will try their damndest, but maybe it won’t stick with the general public.

I’m probably too optimistic….

Call me crazy, but it doesn’t really matter if they were invited or not. This cop was acting so far outside of what we consider to be acceptable for a LEO that he should be manning a desk if he manages to keep his badge. I can’t imagine his superiors were overly thrilled when this video made the net and they saw him pointing a gun at two unarmed kids.

351 Apocalypse  Jun 7, 2015 7:43:12pm

He went to arm himself with a lethal weapon instead of the not-so lethal tazer.
Spoke volumes to me, that.

352 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 7:47:23pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Call me crazy, but it doesn’t really matter if they were invited or not. This cop was acting so far outside of what we consider to be acceptable for a LEO that he should be manning a desk if he manages to keep his badge. I can’t imagine his superiors were overly thrilled when this video made the net and they saw him pointing a gun at two unarmed kids.

And then had the gall to post the video on his own site as a training video. He can’t disown what he’s done.

353 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 7:47:47pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, unlike Darren Wilson he (thank God!) didn’t kill anybody. Though he sure it made it seem like he wanted to.

Had he, they’d have closed ranks in front of him with the Thug wall protecting their own.

354 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 7:48:53pm

Well, they are going after the girl that was assaulted, on twitter. Saying she’s a regular “pool crasher” and instigated the fight with the white woman.

355 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 7:49:00pm

re: #349 danarchy

If he gets fired I’ll be shocked, he’ll get a slap on the wrist maybe even be suspended without pay, but if the union lets him go down for this I will eat my shoe.

Oh, I don’t expect anything to happen to him…I just meant I don’t think the public can be whipped up into a “they got what was coming to them” frenzy against these kids, and may start thinking “why did he have to go nutzoid like that”?

third edit’s the charm!

356 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 7:53:56pm

Great. They’re deploying the riot police at a hip-hop concert in New Jersey.

357 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 7:55:17pm

re: #349 danarchy

If he gets fired I’ll be shocked, he’ll get a slap on the wrist maybe even be suspended without pay, but if the union lets him go down for this I will eat my shoe.

Eric Casebolt is Vice President of his local police union.

358 retired cynic  Jun 7, 2015 7:55:54pm

re: #357 teleskiguy

Hoo boy.

359 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 7:56:00pm

re: #354 Jenner7

Well, they are going after the girl that was assaulted, on twitter. Saying she’s a regular “pool crasher” and instigated the fight with the white woman.

Which contradicts the clear facts of the incident, but to the haters the only fact that matters is that the woman and male cop who got violent are white and the girl is black.

360 palomino  Jun 7, 2015 7:57:56pm

Every critique of cops has to start with a disclaimer: they do a tough dangerous job, most are good decent people, he’s just one rotten apple, blah blah blah.

Except that isn’t necessarily the case. Whole departments are out of control with an us vs. them mentality. If you want respect from the people you allegedly serve, you need to show respect as well. And when it comes to dealing with young people, especially minorities, you just don’t see much respect coming from cops.

361 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 8:00:09pm

re: #338 Targetpractice

362 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:01:08pm

re: #353 William Lewis

Had he, they’d have closed ranks in front of him with the Thug wall protecting their own.

So you’re actually siding against a union? You’re going to get called a DINO talking like that. Maybe I should send you a “Scott Walker 2016” tee shirt if you’re going to go after police unions.

/kidding

363 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2015 8:04:22pm

re: #337 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I agree with you - the F-18 show just isn’t the same. I have fond memories of the Skyhawks. Last year I visited the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. They have a display of the Blue Angels A-4s, three of which were used in the 1984 season (the last A-4 show I remember seeing). Seeing them on display was like seeing old friends again after thirty years. The last time I saw these planes, I was five and they were doing rolls and loops over my head:

Picture from the 2nd floor deck of the museum.

364 palomino  Jun 7, 2015 8:05:29pm

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

So you’re actually siding against a union? You’re going to get called a DINO talking like that. Maybe I should send you a “Scott Walker 2016” tee shirt if you’re going to go after police unions.

/kidding

The very worst of all unions—-police unions—-are the only ones your little boy Walker would ever protect. And only because “law and order” Republicans just love themselves some tough police state tactics. And because they see no problem protecting the violent abusive cops who get shielded by their unions. Truly disgusting, hardly a laughing matter.

365 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 8:06:11pm

re: #363 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’d say the F-18 was a huge improvement over the F-4 Phantom though. The show was bigger than they eye could take in without a telescope.

366 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 8:07:01pm

This story is now part of the hourly top headlines of BBC World Service.

367 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 8:08:15pm

re: #357 teleskiguy

His name was removed from the site.

368 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 8:09:04pm

re: #367 Eric The Fruit Bat

His name was removed from the site.

I just saw that.

I hope the police in McKinney, TX do the right thing and fire the guy, maybe even press charges.

369 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:10:59pm

re: #338 Targetpractice

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I’ve come to believe that racism doesn’t fade. It merely slips underneath the cracks. I sadly think Atwater had it right when he said that it starts out with n-word n-word and gets more subtle. I know he was talking about political racism as opposed to institutional racism but the spirit is the same.

370 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 8:11:25pm

I’m calling it now. They will claim this girl orchestrated it all and the officer will be back on the job.

371 jaunte  Jun 7, 2015 8:11:31pm
372 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:12:33pm

re: #363 Pawn of the Oppressor

I agree with you - the F-18 show just isn’t the same. I have fond memories of the Skyhawks. Last year I visited the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. They have a display of the Blue Angels A-4s, three of which were used in the 1984 season (the last A-4 show I remember seeing). Seeing them on display was like seeing old friends again after thirty years. The last time I saw these planes, I was five and they were doing rolls and loops over my head:

Picture from the 2nd floor deck of the museum.

That said, the F/A-18 has proved a major upgrade as a fighter and attack aircraft over the Skyhawk, It’s greater range and heavier warload were things our carriers needed and if its not quite the dogfighter the A-4 was, its being able to use the AIM-120 AMRAAM means its less likely to need to get close.

373 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:12:45pm

re: #371 jaunte

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Yeah I’ve been thinking about this. I think a lot of people may naively think that these sort of things are new but they didn’t just happen overnight. We’re just knowing more about it since we live in the age of the smartphone where many people have a phone with a built in video camera.

374 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 8:13:25pm

re: #370 Jenner7

I’m calling it now. They will claim this girl orchestrated it all and the officer will be back on the job.

That seems to be the running sentiment amongst the wingnuts. “She was refusing to comply with orders given to her.” Which apparently called for being body-slammed to the ground.

375 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 8:14:16pm

Can someone please explain to me what crime these kids committed? Trespass?

376 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 8:15:08pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone please explain to me what crime these kids committed? Trespass?

We honestly don’t know. No one was arrested, no one has been charged with anything.

377 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:16:07pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone please explain to me what crime these kids committed? Trespass?

Having a pool party while black. A serious crime dontcha know.

378 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 8:17:07pm

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

So you’re actually siding against a union? You’re going to get called a DINO talking like that. Maybe I should send you a “Scott Walker 2016” tee shirt if you’re going to go after police unions.

/kidding

Corrupt is corrupt. I’ve been against the Teamsters my whole life as well.

/understood your comment but not kidding in the least. Real corruption in a few unions is used by the right wing to taint all unions or, worse, like in the case of police unions, to turn members against those they are supposed to “protect and serve”.

379 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:17:25pm

What we need to change is first who gets hired as cop and secondly change the training. And also severely punish any misconduct that occurs on the job. The police union is doing society no favors when it makes excuse after excuse for officer misconduct.

380 electrotek  Jun 7, 2015 8:18:33pm

re: #354 Jenner7

Oh won’t somebody PLEASE think of that POOR white woman?!??! /facepalm

381 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:18:34pm

But I am somewhat surprised folks here have not not brought up a key fact about the A-4 Skyhawk, that being one of its most famous pilots.

382 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 8:19:05pm

here is one example I’m seeing on twitter

383 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 8:19:16pm

Another bit the wingnuts are continuing to repeat is this idea that the cops ordered the kids to disperse and they were refusing to do so. Except anybody who’s watched the video clearly hears the professional cop at the beginning admonishing the kids and telling them they shouldn’t run when the cops show up.

384 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 8:19:50pm

re: #363 Pawn of the Oppressor

A-4 Blue Angels & T-38 Thunderbirds are the best shows in my memories. The F-16 is better than the F-18 for this purpose but the aesthetics of the T-38 were simply superior.

385 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 8:19:56pm

re: #376 teleskiguy

We honestly don’t know. No one was arrested, no one has been charged with anything.

And that to me is the biggest fucking problem with this whole thing. Police apparently now feel free to harass anyone (who’s not white) regardless of if a crime has actually taken place.

Think for a moment how fucking scary that is.

386 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 8:20:08pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

I’ve heard a claim that it was his A-4 that let slip the rocket that started the fire on the USS Forrestal

387 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 8:20:47pm

Also, isn’t it funny how you and a wingnut can have the EXACT same information and yet THEY are the ones who Have all the facts (tm)?

388 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 8:21:01pm

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

its less likely to need to get close.

We’ve made _THAT_ mistake before…

389 Great White Snark  Jun 7, 2015 8:21:16pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone please explain to me what crime these kids committed? Trespass?

Felony uppity and talking back.

390 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 8:22:14pm

ALERT: a fellow traveler needs some support thrown his way.

391 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 8:22:19pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

But I am somewhat surprised folks here have not not brought up a key fact about the A-4 Skyhawk, that being one of its most famous pilots.

Meh. Everyone has a bad day at the office sometimes…

392 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:22:39pm

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, isn’t it funny how you and a wingnut can have the EXACT same information and yet THEY are the ones who Have all the facts (tm)?

Everyone is going to see things differently but it amazes me how anyone could watch this and think the officer acted as an officer should.

393 electrotek  Jun 7, 2015 8:22:57pm

Where’s Allen West to speak on this barbarity?

Oh wait…

394 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2015 8:24:10pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I’ve come to believe that racism doesn’t fade. It merely slips underneath the cracks. I sadly think Atwater had it right when he said that it starts out with n-word n-word and gets more subtle. I know he was talking about political racism as opposed to institutional racism but the spirit is the same.

You can’t have subtle if you don’t already have blatant. Subtle comes from confidence the group already knows. Subtle plays off the well established and defined. Atwater knew all he needed was the dog whistles. The dogs were already there and listening.

395 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:24:19pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone please explain to me what crime these kids committed? Trespass?

They did nothing wrong, but a white woman freaked out about them. Some white people are so messed up in the head about black people they call the cops when they see then working on a car or fishing. And I admit to getting that out of a Daily FAIL article, but the real kicker was that in the first of those two cases, it was actually the cop who told the pearl-clutching woman that it wasn’t a crime to be black.

Sick, just sick.

396 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 8:24:37pm

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

I was wondering if you ever read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy. People criticize his later work but I found the scenarios he presented and the way the weapons and bombers were used was fascinating. An amusing sidebar is that he portrayed the stealth fighter as the bell shaped frisbee instead of the whatever the heck it was that ultimately became the stealth fighter.

397 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 8:24:57pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Having a pool party while black. A serious crime dontcha know.

A few of those teenage girls in bikinis were dragging those coolers around very aggressively.

398 electrotek  Jun 7, 2015 8:25:03pm

*rollseyes*

399 stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2015 8:25:48pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

You really want to go there? McCain crashed five planes. A memorial to McCain’s flying heritage would look like a junkyard.

400 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2015 8:26:01pm

Here’s the thing, wingnuts, it’s pretty simple. I cannot comment on what happened before the events in the video, but if you have video of what happened, then please be so kind as to share it with the rest of us. That said, what I saw in this video was reprehensible and is in no way acceptable behavior from a law enforcement officer. You cannot excuse that behavior by trying to say that other people were bad first, it doesn’t work that way.

401 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 7, 2015 8:26:14pm

re: #382 Jenner7

The knuckledraggers are forming their counter narrative. Takes them a little bit but they always get going.

402 electrotek  Jun 7, 2015 8:27:52pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing, wingnuts, it’s pretty simple. I cannot comment on what happened before the events in the video, but if you have video of what happened, then please be so kind as to share it with the rest of us. That said, what I saw in this video was reprehensible and is in no way acceptable behavior from a law enforcement officer. You cannot excuse that behavior by trying to say that other people were bad first, it doesn’t work that way.

They should never sink this low. This is America, not a third world nation where nepotism is the norm.

403 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:28:03pm

re: #386 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’ve heard a claim that it was his A-4 that let slip the rocket that started the fire on the USS Forrestal

That claim is untrue. It was debunked back in 2008.

404 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:28:33pm

re: #398 electrotek

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*rollseyes*

well Allen considering people have murdered people for being transgender, I think it’s definitely fair to call Caitlyn Jenner courageous. It doesn’t make the sacrifices that military members have made any less noble but you this is not a case of C must equal A but it can’t equal B. This is C can equal A but it can also mean B. And there are plenty of transgender veterans that would disagere with you.

405 William Lewis  Jun 7, 2015 8:30:56pm

re: #398 electrotek

War crimes takes away any reason to take a person seriously on these subjects. Signed, former US Army Infantry NCO.

406 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 8:31:38pm

re: #395 Dark_Falcon

A couple of years ago there was a swim club in the Philadelphia area that achieved infamy when the club contracted with a day camp to let the kids use the pool. It was great until the members found out the campers were black and shit themselves and made the club cancel the contract.

407 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 8:32:44pm
408 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:33:26pm

re: #399 stpaulbear

You really want to go there? McCain crashed five planes. A memorial to McCain’s flying heritage would look like a junkyard.

No, he didn’t. He can only be faulted for one crash. Of the others, one wasn’t a crash at all as he landed the aircraft safely and in easily repairable condition, another was loss was due to engine failure and the Navy found McCain didn’t do anything wrong, the Forrestal disaster was not John McCain’s fault in any way, and the last was when he was shot down, which he could not have avoided given the level of defensive fire aimed at his bird.

So yeah, I’m gonna go there.

409 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 7, 2015 8:35:12pm

re: #399 stpaulbear

In all seriousness the Navy isn’t going to keep putting bad aviators into carrier based planes.

410 unproven innocence  Jun 7, 2015 8:36:44pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing, wingnuts, it’s pretty simple. I cannot comment on what happened before the events in the video, but if you have video of what happened, then please be so kind as to share it with the rest of us. That said, what I saw in this video was reprehensible and is in no way acceptable behavior from a law enforcement officer. You cannot excuse that behavior by trying to say that other people were bad first, it doesn’t work that way.

One that I found (on this thread, I think) before police arrived. Maybe before they were called. Curiously, the location is only steps away from the face-in-the-grass knees-in-the-back viral video. 24seconds.

411 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 8:38:12pm

re: #398 electrotek

Chuckles had some dirt on Allen West he was going to spill.

412 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2015 8:40:00pm

re: #411 Eric The Fruit Bat

Chuckles had some dirt on Allen West he was going to spill.

He tried that, but it turned out he had nothing. He was just going after West for being a black man who disagreed with him.

413 blueraven  Jun 7, 2015 8:42:54pm

This is incredibly heartbreaking, outrageous and totally unacceptable.
To say he fell through the cracks is so inadequate. I cant even…

414 Kragar  Jun 7, 2015 8:48:32pm

I do some other stuff for a while and come back to this:

“Conservative, Constitutional govt. Support Military, Israel. Pro life. Family”

Having that in your bio pretty much makes you scum on Twitter

415 Kragar  Jun 7, 2015 8:51:50pm
416 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 8:52:23pm

re: #415 Kragar

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It’s sad how true that statement is.

417 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 8:52:59pm

Wasn’t there a wingnut business owner who tried to do the “Whites only” thing and got run out of business?

418 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2015 8:56:03pm

re: #415 Kragar

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What the fuck sigh.

419 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 9:02:20pm

re: #398 electrotek

[Embedded content]

*rollseyes*

Fuck off, West. I don’t need lectures on courage from a war criminal.

420 Pip's Squeak  Jun 7, 2015 9:05:09pm

re: #126 Nyet

The fascinating thing is that if one is interested in a rigorous and absolute monotheism one might examine Kashmiri Saivism rather than the Abrahamic religions.

421 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 9:06:08pm
422 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 7, 2015 9:12:25pm

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

West is a true thug. He was goddam lucky he wasn’t Court Martialed but underwent an Article 12 hearing and kept his fucking pension.

423 Belafon  Jun 7, 2015 9:18:10pm

re: #421 Jenner7

So much for the “none of the black people live here” argument.

424 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 9:19:20pm

re: #421 Jenner7

Well ain’t that some shit.

That’s doesn’t correlate at all with this man’s version of events.

EDITED

425 goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2015 9:21:46pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

He tried that, but it turned out he had nothing. He was just going after West for being a black man who disagreed with him.

There was no disagreement. Chuck’s goal was to torpedo West’s chances of being Ted Cruz’s VP, because Chuck is obsessed with Cruz and wants to boil his bunny.

426 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 7, 2015 9:23:07pm

This is what happens if you try to record the cops in action, so maybe camera phones aren’t the be-all-and-end-all.

427 Jenner7  Jun 7, 2015 9:28:50pm
428 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 9:33:51pm

re: #427 Jenner7

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Oh that’s GOOD.

429 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 9:43:12pm

Have you seen the Twitter counter for this post? 4,505.

430 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2015 9:44:19pm

I’m off to bed. I’ll see ya all when this country starts acting like we’re a civilized people. (or probably tomorrow, since I can’t wait for infinity to occur)

RBS

431 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2015 9:44:45pm

re: #429 teleskiguy

Have you seen the Twitter counter for this post? 4,505.

And not one of those is CCJ.

:D

432 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 9:51:41pm

Charles, correct me if I’m wrong please. The Twitter counter you have at the top of the post underneath the left side of the headline, does that count every time someone clicks on that particular article on Twitter? Does it have to be your lgf dot bz link for it to work?

433 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 9:54:06pm

Oh Garry, I’m glad you’re tweeting some again.

434 txvoodoo  Jun 7, 2015 9:58:10pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel

Um, no. Gober is 45 miles away from McKinney. It’s in a rural area, in a different county, and nothing like McKinney.

McKinney’s got McMansions, it’s suburbia on a plate. And a lot of those kids were from McKinney, which isn’t only whitebread land. 25% is non-white.

I’m not defending McKinney - and I don’t need to. Nor (god help me) am I defending that asshat cop. He should be GONE.

But let’s be honest here when we discuss things. Maybe it makes some feel better to say “oh, I get it, it’s hickville, all rednecks.” Nope, the people that live there are more like those in Office Space than Hee Haw.

IMO, that makes it worse. This is suburbia, USA and it’s fucked up.

435 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:03:16pm

re: #434 txvoodoo

Um, no. Gober is 45 miles away from McKinney. It’s in a rural area, in a different county, and nothing like McKinney.

McKinney’s got McMansions, it’s suburbia on a plate. And a lot of those kids were from McKinney, which isn’t only whitebread land. 25% is non-white.

I’m not defending McKinney - and I don’t need to. Nor (god help me) am I defending that asshat cop. He should be GONE.

But let’s be honest here when we discuss things. Maybe it makes some feel better to say “oh, I get it, it’s hickville, all rednecks.” Nope, the people that live there are more like those in Office Space than Hee Haw.

IMO, that makes it worse. This is suburbia, USA and it’s fucked up.

Greetings Hatchling.

I don’t speak for Shiplord Kirel but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t comparing McKinney to Gober in the way you describe. In fact, he was trying to provide a little history of the area and show us a recent picture of the old Post Office as a way of comparing Gober and McKinney as you just did.

I’m being nice when I tell you this. Shiplord Kirel is OG Lizard here at LGF.

Your first comment at LGF, to me, gives me some weird vibrations.

436 TedStriker  Jun 7, 2015 10:04:30pm

re: #435 teleskiguy

Greetings Hatchling.

I don’t speak for Shiplord Kirel but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t comparing McKinney to Gober in the way you describe. In fact, he was trying to provide a little history of the area and show us a recent picture of the old Post Office as a way of comparing Gober and McKinney as you just did.

I’m being nice when I tell you this. Shiplord Kirel is OG Lizard here at LGF.

Your first comment at LGF, to me, gives me some weird vibrations.

My Stinky Sense is tingling…

437 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:05:02pm

re: #436 TedStriker

My Stinky Sense is tingling…

txvoodoo, hmm. Nice name.

438 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:09:16pm

OMG! This just went out to 548,078 Twitter accounts!

439 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 10:15:11pm

re: #434 txvoodoo

Um, no. Gober is 45 miles away from McKinney. It’s in a rural area, in a different county, and nothing like McKinney.

McKinney’s got McMansions, it’s suburbia on a plate. And a lot of those kids were from McKinney, which isn’t only whitebread land. 25% is non-white.

I’m not defending McKinney - and I don’t need to. Nor (god help me) am I defending that asshat cop. He should be GONE.

But let’s be honest here when we discuss things. Maybe it makes some feel better to say “oh, I get it, it’s hickville, all rednecks.” Nope, the people that live there are more like those in Office Space than Hee Haw.

IMO, that makes it worse. This is suburbia, USA and it’s fucked up.

Who are these “some” who feel better when they say “it’s Hicksville, all rednecks?” I didn’t say that and neither did anyone else here. We can see for ourselves from the video that McKinney is not like the Gober Post Office, whatever significance that has. 45 miles is “right near” by Texas standards. You should know that.
I often post Texas history photos, especially when events in Texas are under discussion.
I live in rural Palo Pinto County, Texas, and it would be hard to prove by me that the locals are any more “rednecks” or “hicks” than the suburban tract-dwellers; a good deal less in many cases in fact.

440 txvoodoo  Jun 7, 2015 10:17:15pm

re: #437 teleskiguy

tingle away, I’m kosher. I don’t comment much, but I’m one of those liberal Texans (sort of. 15 years here now) who gets annoyed when people act like everything here is backwards. Numbers wise, the only states that had more Dem votes in recent presidential elections are NY, CA and FL, so while there may be a lot of jackasses here, there are a lot of people “on the side of the angels.”

Feel free to stalk me over on twitter. *waves at Charles, Gus, et al*

P.S. I’m highly unimpressed by “lizards”, og or otherwise.

441 txvoodoo  Jun 7, 2015 10:19:48pm

re: #439 Shiplord Kirel

Who are these “some” who feel better when they say “it’s Hicksville, all rednecks?” I didn’t say that and neither did anyone else here. We can see for ourselves from the video that McKinney is not like the Gober Post Office, whatever significance that has. 45 miles is “right near” by Texas standards. You should know that.
I often post Texas history photos, especially when events in Texas are under discussion.
I live in rural Palo Pinto County, Texas, and it would be hard to prove by me that the locals are any more “rednecks” or “hicks” than the suburban tract-dwellers; a good deal less in many cases in fact.

45 miles is an hour drive. That’s not “right near.” An hour is an hour no matter where you are, unless your transport is a TARDIS. You made an invalid comparison. You attempted to suggest that McKinney is something it’s not. It’s not BFE.

I’m in Fort Worth, I’ve lived on the D side of the ‘plex. I’ve also lived in Austin. Pull the other leg.

442 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:21:48pm

re: #439 Shiplord Kirel

45 miles is “right near” by Texas standards. You should know that.

I’ve only driven across the state of Texas a handful of times, all of them going to or from Austin or Dallas for some music incidentally. ( :-P )

One time I took state highway 71 out of Austin towards Colorado. “Let’s drive on a two-lane highway across Texas” I thought. “It’ll be…different.”

It sure was. And I really got a scope of just how big Texas is. 45 miles is nothing.

443 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:23:56pm

OK, txvoodoo is a troll.

You’re not impressing anybody here with your combative comments.

444 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:25:34pm

re: #440 txvoodoo

people act like everything here is backwards

No one said anything like this here, dipshit.

445 psddluva4evah  Jun 7, 2015 10:25:47pm

I lived in Carrolton which is outside of McKinney, TX. The one thing I remember about this area, is that they didn’t have public transportation. A friend who lived there was complaining one day that she had to drive her son to and from work because his car was broke.
See places like Carrollton and McKinney and the like although suburbs of DFW, while Dallas proper has diverse public transportation, these suburbs do not.

Now what does that tell you about a city that does that? To me it tells me that you are trying to keep out “those” people. Because people who can afford not to, don’t need public transportation. So by having none at all, you can keep those out.

I’m not at all surprised this type of calling the cops incident happened in McKinney

446 TedStriker  Jun 7, 2015 10:29:06pm

re: #443 teleskiguy

OK, txvoodoo is a troll.

You’re not impressing anybody here with your combative comments.

If they’re not a troll or a sockpuppet, I’d be surprised, because they sure are starting out with such a ruckus.

Of course, if they’re not, I’ll be the first to apologize.

447 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:32:03pm

re: #446 TedStriker

If they’re not a troll or a sockpuppet, I’d be surprised, because they sure are starting out with such a ruckus.

Of course, if they’re not, I’ll be the first to apologize.

I’m giving dude/gal the benefit of the doubt. No downdings from me tonight. However, their first few comments…it’s like an angry drunk crashing a party by spouting off and getting into people’s faces.

Not cool.

448 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:34:02pm

re: #440 txvoodoo

P.S. I’m highly unimpressed by “lizards”, og or otherwise.

Then why the fuck are you even here?!?

449 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 10:37:57pm

re: #441 txvoodoo

You made an invalid comparison. You attempted to suggest that McKinney is something it’s not. It’s not BFE.

First I said McKinney was Gober, now I am saying it is Bum Fuck Egypt? You still haven’t explained where, or how I made these alleged suggestions.

Btw, what do you have against rural Egypt? I have been there. Have you?

Places like Gober ARE the cultural heritage of this region. The loss of authentic contact with this heritage is part of the reason for the insanity we see breaking out among RW suburbanites here.

450 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:39:32pm

re: #449 Shiplord Kirel

Places like Gober ARE the cultural heritage of this region. The loss of authentic contact with this heritage is part of the reason for the insanity we see breaking out among RW suburbanites here.

I love you, brother. You know what’s going on with humans in Texas deep down in your heart. Keep fighting the good fight!

451 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 10:40:55pm

re: #450 teleskiguy

I love you, brother. You know what’s going on with humans in Texas deep down in your heart. Keep fighting the good fight!

Many thanks, Tel. Oh, what does “OG” stand for anyway?

452 unproven innocence  Jun 7, 2015 10:41:53pm

re: #451 Shiplord Kirel

My guess: OG — Old Guard.

453 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 10:42:38pm

re: #432 teleskiguy

Charles, correct me if I’m wrong please. The Twitter counter you have at the top of the post underneath the left side of the headline, does that count every time someone clicks on that particular article on Twitter? Does it have to be your lgf dot bz link for it to work?

That’s correct. It’s the number of clicks on the lgf dot bz short link.

454 TedStriker  Jun 7, 2015 10:44:06pm

re: #451 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks, Tel. Oh, what does “OG” stand for anyway?

OG= Original Gangster (aka old school)

455 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2015 10:44:25pm

re: #451 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks, Tel. Oh, what does “OG” stand for anyway?

It derives from hip-hop music. OG, Original Gangsta. It’s a way of describing the gals or dudes that were there from the very start. In hip-hop, well, it varies widely on who is exactly an OG as it is a construct of time. Off the top of my head? Ice-T.

456 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2015 10:49:38pm

More background from Traces of Texas:

Daughter of a migrant worker near Harlingen, 1939. Haunting.
It strikes me that she very well could still be alive.
Photo by Russell Lee.

457 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2015 10:52:58pm

re: #434 txvoodoo

Maybe it makes some feel better to say “oh, I get it, it’s hickville, all rednecks.”

I haven’t seen anyone say this at LGF. Which comment was that?

458 TedStriker  Jun 7, 2015 11:34:02pm

re: #457 Charles Johnson

I haven’t seen anyone say this at LGF. Which comment was that?

It appears they have left the building.

459 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 8, 2015 12:08:26am

re: #457 Charles Johnson

No way I could be sure, but I suspect a false flag troll. Construing the hardscrabble rural heritage as some kind of insult is definitely not typical of Texas liberals.
It is the local RWers who attempt to deny, or seriously distort, this heritage in favor of the greed-driven myth of a completely self-reliant rise to the top. Contempt for the still-poor is an obvious by-product. They identify with Rand’s John Galt, when Steinbeck’s Joads would be a much better choice.

460 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2015 12:40:22am

re: #434 txvoodoo

But let’s be honest here when we discuss things. Maybe it makes some feel better to say “oh, I get it, it’s hickville, all rednecks.” N

Hicksville is on Long Island, anyways. /

461 unproven innocence  Jun 8, 2015 1:29:50am

A few seconds before RageCop drew his sidearm, he had attempted to choreograph a very forceful meeting of sidewalk and Yellow Bikini Girl’s face. While still constraining her right hand with his right hand, he used his left hand to push DOWN on her horizontal backside as she was falling.

It was that action (which I think may qualify as attempted murder) that may have prompted two young men to try to intervene. That’s when the sidearm was drawn, and they re-considered. There was look of terror* on her face when RageCop returned his attentions to her, to grab her arm yet again, because his gun was still drawn.

*Dear Media: You know how to examine a video frame by frame, right?

462 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2015 4:42:00am

Dropping this here where it fits, even though the thread is dead:

463 TimJ  Jun 8, 2015 12:38:41pm

The fatass white neighbors show up, act like big heros “protecting” the insane cop kneeling on a teenage girl in her swim suit. Watching the video I wanted nothing more than kick that cop right in the head. And now the racists are out in full force.

This story has been playing on BBC and in Dutch media all day. The US is not looking very good….


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