Chinese Hackers Grabbed the Personal Data of Every Single US Gov’t Employee

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That massive data breach we wrote about last week was apparently much worse than first reported; it now looks like the (possibly Chinese) hackers may have the personal data of every single US government employee, including retirees and former employees.

If true, this will go down as the worst security failure in history.

J. David Cox, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, said in a letter to OPM director Katherine Archuleta that based on OPM’s internal briefings, “We believe that the Central Personnel Data File was the targeted database, and that the hackers are now in possession of all personnel data for every federal employee, every federal retiree, and up to one million former federal employees.”

The OPM data file contains the records of non-military, non-intelligence executive branch employees, which covers most federal civilian employees but not, for example, members of Congress and their staffs.

The union believes the hackers stole military records and veterans’ status information, address, birth date, job and pay history, health insurance, life insurance, and pension information; and age, gender and race data, he said. The letter was obtained by The Associated Press.

ABC News is reporting that the hack of the federal Office of Personnel Management went undetected for more than a year.

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195 comments
1 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 5:44:28pm

Eek.

2 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 5:46:44pm

The names (and salaries) of most public employees used to be public anyway, if hard to get. Over time that was slowly cloaked. Addresses were not public though, nor any job performance related data.

This does sound rather large. Replaces the Target breach, itself serious, as a the big data mining crime.

3 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 5:48:09pm

re: #2 freetoken

This is much more than names and salaries. They apparently grabbed social security numbers, addresses, phone numbers - basically everything.

4 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 5:49:27pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The social security number breach is really serious. I wonder if every federal employee will now have to be re-issued a new number? How does one handle such a large identity theft problem?

5 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 5:50:01pm

re: #4 freetoken

To quote Brian Wilson, God only knows.

6 thedopefishlives  Jun 11, 2015 5:50:36pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

This is much more than names and salaries. They apparently grabbed social security numbers, addresses, phone numbers - basically everything.

Oh geez. That’s definitely not good.

7 unproven innocence  Jun 11, 2015 5:53:39pm

Repost:
OPM kicks off IT modernization
Mar. 11, 2014

Headline alone screams “Houston, we have a problem.”

8 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 5:55:11pm
Beginning June 8 and continuing through June 19, OPM will be sending notifications to approximately 4 million individuals whose Personally Identifiable Information was potentially compromised in this incident. The email will come from opmcio@csid.com and it will contain information regarding credit monitoring and identity theft protection services being provided to those Federal employees impacted by the data breach. In the event OPM does not have an email address for the individual on file, a standard letter will be sent via the U.S. Postal Service.

In order to mitigate the risk of fraud and identity theft, OPM is offering affected individuals credit monitoring services and identity theft insurance with CSID, a company that specializes in identity theft protection and fraud resolution. This comprehensive, 18-month membership includes credit report access, credit monitoring, identity theft insurance, and recovery services and is available immediately at no cost to affected individuals identified by OPM.

9 b.d.  Jun 11, 2015 5:56:45pm

This must be a mistake, the dudebros have assured me that only the US Government uses computers for evil purposes.

10 Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2015 5:59:18pm

And now, of course, begins the screaming from the GOP about how the President hasn’t been taking China seriously and how we need to retaliate in some fashion.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2015 5:59:50pm

Thanks Obama.

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12 Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2015 6:00:05pm

So how responsible should the Chinese government be held? I doubt one could separate commercial from military from intelligence hackers from China.

13 thedopefishlives  Jun 11, 2015 6:01:01pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

And now, of course, begins the screaming from the GOP about how the President hasn’t been taking China seriously and how we need to retaliate in some fashion.

How, exactly? Because no offense to American hackers, but if we could keep up with the Chinese we wouldn’t be having this problem.

14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 6:02:07pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

And now, of course, begins the screaming from the GOP about how the President hasn’t been taking China seriously and how we need to retaliate in some fashion.

Hell, if you’re flying halfway around the world to “bomb, bomb, bomb…bomb, bomb Iran”, you might as well go in the opposite direction and drop a few on China on the way!

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2015 6:02:26pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

How, exactly? Because no offense to American hackers, but if we could keep up with the Chinese we wouldn’t be having this problem.

The Chinese have the numbers. Simple math says we’ll lose.

16 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 6:02:55pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

How, exactly? Because no offense to American hackers, but if we could keep up with the Chinese we wouldn’t be having this problem.

Defense is inherently harder than offense.

17 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 6:03:00pm

Funny how this data breach occurred a year after Edward Snowden had his little vacation/detention in Hong Kong.

18 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2015 6:03:21pm

I’m sure the job creators (tm) would scream bloody murder if the GOP tried to go after China.

19 Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2015 6:04:59pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

How, exactly? Because no offense to American hackers, but if we could keep up with the Chinese we wouldn’t be having this problem.

You’re making the assumption the GOP will actually offer ideas, as opposed to just making their usual noise about “doing something” without actually proposing anything so they have room to criticize whatever is proposed.

20 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:05:01pm

And here I thought that collecting data carried with it the responsibility to keep that data secure. What’s the over/under on how long it take them to discover that all of the data that NSA has hoovered up was compromised?

21 b.d.  Jun 11, 2015 6:05:26pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Funny how this data breach occurred a year after Edward Snowden had his little vacation/detention in Hong Kong.

THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD SHOULD HAVE THE SS #s OF ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. ASSUMING THAT THEY WILL USE THEM FOR ILL WILL IS AN ACT OF HUBRIS. INFORMATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE FREE

22 thedopefishlives  Jun 11, 2015 6:08:36pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Defense is inherently harder than offense.

You know that and I know that, and our illustrious host knows that; but most non-computer-oriented people (aka, just about everybody in the GOP) most certainly will not understand just how hard it is to defend against crap like this. This specific attack probably could’ve been prevented, and the final analysis will bear that out; but if it wasn’t this, it would’ve been something else. Not to excuse anyone or to suppress outrage, just stating the facts.

23 unproven innocence  Jun 11, 2015 6:10:33pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Funny how this data breach occurred a year after Edward Snowden had his little vacation/detention in Hong Kong.

Disagree. Sensitive personal info on the net has likely been intensively collected for many years by any and all parties who tried at all.

24 Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2015 6:10:47pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

How, exactly? Because no offense to American hackers, but if we could keep up with the Chinese we wouldn’t be having this problem.

No, if only because the nature of the victim, i.e. computers on the internet favors the attacker. This may not bee bout skill at all. And whatever the technical details are, rest assured they bear zero relation to anything the GOP says.

But my question from above still stands. How responsible is the Chinese gov?

25 A Cranky One  Jun 11, 2015 6:12:05pm

Speaking of security:

Government to increase use of https

26 b.d.  Jun 11, 2015 6:12:09pm

Isn’t just offering free credit reporting a pretty lame response? That seems to be standard operating procedure for private business too.

“Sorry people stole the information you entrusted to us. We’ll give you free, limited time, credit reporting service that you have to stay on top of. It’s your problem now, good luck!”

27 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 6:18:37pm

No doubt Fox News has already found the culprit, who it turned out was not only Swedish but has been dead for over seventy years.

In other words, Fox News.
28 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:18:43pm

Am I correct in assuming that none of the stolen data was encrypted? If so, WTF?

29 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:19:51pm

Oh dear. As a former federal employee… but that was before everything was computerized. I think. Though I was still a consultant on contract. :/

30 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:20:29pm

re: #27 De Kolta Chair

Updinged for the Sidney Toler pic.

31 unproven innocence  Jun 11, 2015 6:21:27pm

re: #28 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Am I correct in assuming that none of the stolen data was encrypted? If so, WTF?

Good guess. Collateral damage from the ongoing war on encryption.

32 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:21:41pm

re: #30 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Updinged for the Sidney Toler pic.

He was Swedish?

33 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:22:31pm

re: #32 allegro

He was Swedish?

Funny, he doesn’t look Swedish in the picture.

34 b.d.  Jun 11, 2015 6:22:38pm

We’re not at war with China, they wouldn’t do this to us.

35 b.d.  Jun 11, 2015 6:23:08pm

re: #33 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Funny, he doesn’t look Swedish in the picture.

He’s a master of disguise.

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36 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:23:20pm

re: #33 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Funny, he doesn’t look Swedish in the picture.

No shit. LOL

37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 6:24:09pm

re: #30 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Updinged for the Sidney Toler pic.

I thought it was Warner Oland

Which at least sounds kinda Swedish..

38 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:26:15pm

re: #37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought it was Warner Oland

Which at least sounds kinda Swedish..

The other great screen Charlie sans Chan.

39 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 6:26:19pm

re: #37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He was born Johan Verner Ölund in the village of Nyby, Bjurholm Municipality, Västerbotten County, Sweden. He claimed that his vaguely Oriental appearance was due to possessing some Mongolian ancestry,[1]:1[2] though his known ancestry contains no indication that this was so.[3]

People really don’t know where the Finns and Lapps came from, do they?

40 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:28:18pm

re: #38 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The other great screen Charlie sans Chan.

Jeez they were both Swedish? Okay it’s gotta be the mojito cuz this is funny as hell to me.

41 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 6:30:02pm

re: #40 allegro

Jeez they were both Swedish? Okay it’s gotta be the mojito cuz this is funny as hell to me.

Never knew there were two of them, either. You learn something new every day—well, unless you’re a conservative….

42 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 11, 2015 6:31:46pm

re: #40 allegro

Jeez they were both Swedish? Okay it’s gotta be the mojito cuz this is funny as hell to me.

It seems like something that Douglas Adams would have included in one of the Hitchhikers books.

43 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:32:14pm

re: #41 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Never knew there were two of them, either. You learn something new every day—well, unless you’re a conservative….

They all look alike joke is right there. But to be applied to two Swedes who played a Chinese guy…. gotta be worth a chapter in someone’s book.

44 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:32:40pm

re: #42 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It seems like something that Douglas Adams would have included in one of the Hitchhikers books.

LOL!!

45 EPR-radar  Jun 11, 2015 6:33:00pm

re: #27 De Kolta Chair

I think Fox News would want to be more blatant, such as using Fu Manchu or Ming the Merciless references.

Their viewers need to have their crayon sketch views of reality made as simple as possible.

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 6:33:49pm

re: #34 b.d.

We’re not at war with China, they wouldn’t do this to us.

I’m sure Chuckles will climb on Twitter right away to tell us North Korea China didn’t really do it…oh wait!

47 thedopefishlives  Jun 11, 2015 6:36:21pm

And now, off to continue my torrid affair with Warehouse 13. Farewell, gentle lizardfolk.

48 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 6:37:23pm
49 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:37:51pm

re: #47 thedopefishlives

And now, off to continue my torrid affair with Warehouse 13. Farewell, gentle lizardfolk.

Have you gotten to Sylvia Plath’s typewriter yet?

50 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 6:39:16pm

re: #30 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Updinged for the Sidney Toler pic.

Thanks, though I thought that was Warner Oland. ;-)

51 goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2015 6:40:08pm
52 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:40:10pm

re: #50 De Kolta Chair

Thanks, though I thought that was Warner Oland. ;-)

LOL I’m dyin’ here.

53 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 6:44:59pm

re: #50 De Kolta Chair

54 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:46:43pm

And to go from this to the next episode of Hannibal. I dunno if I can make that transition. He’p me.

55 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 6:46:48pm
56 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 6:47:08pm
57 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 6:49:45pm

re: #39 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

People really don’t know where the Finns and Lapps came from, do they?

From another WIkipedia article, on epicanthic folds:

Epicanthic folds can, and most commonly do,[citation needed] appear in East Asians, Southeast Asians, Central Asians, Indigenous Americans, the San people, Berbers, Inuit and “occasionally in Europeans (e.g., Scandinavians and Poles)”.[6][7][8]

Anthropologist Carleton S. Coon said that the “median fold” appears in “Finnic” and “Slavic” populations while the “true inner or mongoloid fold” appears in populations of the “east” and the “far north”.[9]

Citation 9 goes to an unlinked source. The author was an early racialist, Carleton S. Coon (1904-1981), whose skills at physical anthropology were obviously tainted by his racism.

This girl is Uyghur: blond hair, blue eyes and epicanthic folds.
Image: Uyghur_girl_in_Turpan%2C_Xinjiang%2C_China_-_20050712.jpg

On a related note, one of the most common plastic surgeries in Korea and China, especially for women, is “double eyelid” surgery — removal of the epicanthic fold to make the eyes look more Western. Two of my close friends have recently had it done, and it make their eyes appear larger. Chinese (maybe Koreans too) favor large eyes over narrow ones.

Go figure.

Laura’s eyes before:

Laura’s eyes after:

58 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 6:50:55pm

Cue Racist AmeriKKKa’s splodey heads.

59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 6:52:02pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

I wonder if the cans in China will have the lyrics, too.

60 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 6:53:45pm
61 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:54:41pm

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be mistaken, but I believe epicanthic folds are also indicative of fetal alcohol syndrome.

62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 6:55:33pm

re: #61 allegro

I may be mistaken, but I believe epicanthic folds are also indicative of fetal alcohol syndrome.

So the Wikipedia article says.

63 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 6:56:23pm

re: #61 allegro

I may be mistaken, but I believe epicanthic folds are also indicative of fetal alcohol syndrome.

Whoa… I didn’t mean that to refer to the Asian population in any way.

64 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 6:58:43pm

re: #61 allegro

I may be mistaken, but I believe epicanthic folds are also indicative of fetal alcohol syndrome.

But enough about the Irish. Budda Bing!

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65 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2015 7:00:11pm

BLUEBERRY PIE!

66 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:00:47pm

re: #65 Lord Of The Pies

BLUEBERRY PIE!

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I can haz?

67 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:01:08pm

Oh pie. It’s Thursday already?

68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 7:01:15pm

re: #63 allegro

Whoa… I didn’t mean that to refer to the Asian population in any way.

I know. The Wiki is too brief to be of much use, but it does say that the genetics of epicanthic folds is poorly understood. It has something to do with the bridge of the nose, being more common with low bridges than high ones. The evolutionary advantages are also poorly understood.

69 Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2015 7:02:57pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

“Do want a good time don’t want a long time”

70 b_sharp  Jun 11, 2015 7:03:22pm

re: #65 Lord Of The Pies

BLUEBERRY PIE!

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Nom nom nom.

More please.

71 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 7:03:26pm

re: #65 Lord Of The Pies

BLUEBERRY PIE!

72 Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2015 7:04:08pm

re: #65 Lord Of The Pies

BLUEBERRY PIE!

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Why must you tempt us so?!

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73 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 7:05:19pm
74 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2015 7:06:02pm

EPIC WIN

75 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 7:08:32pm

re: #74 Lord Of The Pies

EPIC WIN

I like it!

76 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2015 7:09:35pm

The edge of the crust is a little too brown, but nobody will notice when it’s covered with vanilla ice cream.

77 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:10:08pm

re: #76 Lord Of The Pies

The edge of the crust is a little too brown, but nobody will notice when it’s covered with vanilla ice cream.

Now you are taunting us.
:P

78 jaunte  Jun 11, 2015 7:10:47pm

re: #65 Lord Of The Pies

BLUEBERRY PIE!

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“distractinglysexy”

79 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:10:56pm

Regardless of politics, Obama is by far the coolest President in my lifetime.

80 bratwurst  Jun 11, 2015 7:12:32pm

Your misleading Drudge tweet of the day:

If true, that would be quite a story though!

81 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2015 7:12:58pm
82 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:14:15pm

re: #81 Lord Of The Pies

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Has Chuck claimed it was cuz he was banned yet?

83 Timothy Watson  Jun 11, 2015 7:14:58pm

Yes, it’s “controversial”, heaven forbid!
myfoxdc.com

Is the correct word “ironic” to describe the assholes who at the same time complain about the yuts having their faces stuck in their phones and not caring about a soul around them, while also simultaneously bitching because the yuts dare to speak out on a current event or issue?

84 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 7:15:33pm

re: #80 bratwurst

Your misleading Drudge tweet of the day:

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If true, that would be quite a story though!

ZOMBIE STALIN!
85 Timothy Watson  Jun 11, 2015 7:16:17pm

re: #80 bratwurst

Your misleading Drudge tweet of the day:

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If true, that would be quite a story though!

(Yeah, I know that’s Lenin there, but still, it works.)

86 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:16:29pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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87 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 7:19:43pm
88 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:22:21pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

He’s probly creamin’ now thinking maybe he’ll get his account back. LOL

89 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 7:23:13pm

re: #81 Lord Of The Pies

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Back in my day, by jiminy, when someone said the words “twitter and shake-up” it meant Jerry Lee Lewis just shtupped a flock of pelicans (or vice a versa).

90 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 11, 2015 7:23:14pm

I think I’ve got my ebay mojo back. Won the last couple of auctions I took a run at, and got some good (great) stuff for cheap.

“Await my Snipe and Tremble….”

RBS

91 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 7:23:21pm
92 William Lewis  Jun 11, 2015 7:24:04pm

Well, that was a busy night of pizza.

Thought I’d pass along this video in memory of Sir Christopher Lee from a wee British band…

93 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:24:08pm

re: #88 allegro

He’s probly creamin’ now thinking maybe he’ll get his account back. LOL

Okay that was ugly and I’m going to hell now.

94 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:24:43pm

re: #93 allegro

Okay that was ugly and I’m going to hell now.

It’s were all the cool people are anyways.

95 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 7:24:53pm

Can’t tell you guys how glad I am that I basically had to submit my whole life history, plus information about my family and friends, to OPM in order to get my security clearance.

96 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 7:25:29pm

To me, O’Malley comes off a bit lame here:

O’Malley: I haven’t seen video of police pool party brutality

97 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:26:21pm

re: #95 Kragar

Can’t tell you guys how glad I am that I basically had to submit my whole life history, plus information about my family and friends, to OPM in order to get my security clearance.

Oh shit I hadn’t even thought about that.

98 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 7:26:37pm

re: #89 De Kolta Chair

Back in my day, by jiminy, when someone said the words “twitter and shake-up” it meant Jerry Lee Lewis just shtupped a flock of pelicans.

GET OFF MY LAWN!
99 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 7:26:45pm

re: #95 Kragar

Wouldn’t that information have been in FBI or service related investigative (e.g., Navy, Army) agencies? OPM keeps employment status, financial, and associated data.

100 Decatur Deb  Jun 11, 2015 7:29:11pm

re: #97 allegro

Oh shit I hadn’t even thought about that.

I think my OPM data is safely inscribed on clay tablets. Other than that, let me repeat: “There is no such thing as Internet security”.

101 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 7:29:19pm
102 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 7:31:28pm

re: #99 freetoken

Wouldn’t that information have been in FBI or service related investigative (e.g., Navy, Army) agencies? OPM keeps employment status, financial, and associated data.

Nope, a few years back (2011-12ish), after there was problems with the various companies subcontracted to do background checks, OPM became the central point for coordinating the checks. Everyone filling out the government forms submitted a copy to OPM. We’ve already been told that unless we’re specifically told we’re not affected by our security officer, we’re to assume that we are.

103 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 7:33:27pm
Rest in peace, Christopher Lee.
104 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:34:46pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

I think my OPM data is safely inscribed on clay tablets. Other than that, let me repeat: “There is no such thing as Internet security”.

So are mine, no doubt. I had security clearance to deal with mice, raccoons, and ducks at NASA Mission control at various times over the past 3 decades. Seriously. It’s just like shown in movies, BTW. Very cool place.

105 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 7:35:48pm

re: #102 Kragar

Well, my experience is farther back (if not quite back to clay tablet days.)

I can’t imagine OPM keeping contents of your submission electronically. It seems a pro forma type of thing, check boxes to be marked as part of an approval process. The actual background information and the results of investigations used to be kept in secure facilities.

106 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 7:36:22pm
107 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 11, 2015 7:36:36pm

re: #104 allegro

So are mine, no doubt. I had security clearance to deal with mice, raccoons, and ducks at NASA Mission control at various times over the past 3 decades. Seriously. It’s just like shown in movies, BTW. Very cool place.

Did you see any suspicious characters like this one?

108 Decatur Deb  Jun 11, 2015 7:37:51pm

re: #104 allegro

So are mine, no doubt. I had security clearance to deal with mice, raccoons, and ducks at NASA Mission control at various times over the past 3 decades. Seriously. It’s just like shown in movies, BTW. Very cool place.

Look at the upside—you might get a job offer from a Beijing zoo or restaurant.

109 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 7:38:02pm

re: #105 freetoken

Well, my experience is farther back (if not quite back to clay tablet days.)

I can’t imagine OPM keeping contents of your submission electronically. It seems a pro forma type of thing, check boxes to be marked as part of an approval process. The actual background information and the results of investigations used to be kept in secure facilities.

How do you think we submitted the data? It was all electronic.

110 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:38:49pm

re: #107 RealityBasedSteve

Did you see any suspicious characters like this one?

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Actually funnier than that.

111 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:39:34pm

re: #103 De Kolta Chair

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Damn.

112 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:42:52pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Look at the upside—you might get a job offer from a Beijing zoo or restaurant.

I’ve had numerous offers from Africa and South America. Do those count?

113 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 7:45:35pm
114 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 7:46:16pm

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

….On a related note, one of the most common plastic surgeries in Korea and China, especially for women, is “double eyelid” surgery — removal of the epicanthic fold to make the eyes look more Western. Two of my close friends have recently had it done, and it make their eyes appear larger. Chinese (maybe Koreans too) favor large eyes over narrow ones.

Go figure.

I’m sorry, but it seems like a real shame for people to be made dissatisfied with their ethnic characteristics just because of the Western media.

115 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 7:46:47pm
116 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 7:52:45pm

So, on the one hand, we have somebody somewhere who has breached the personal data of every US govt. employee.

On the other hand we have me, with my new digital cable remote that I can’t figure out how to get anything but my BlueRay to work. Good thing we had our little chat about streaming on Amazon Prime, as right now, my only choices are streaming videos or DVDs.

I am SOOOO pathetic. Guess I’ll curl up with a good instruction manual to figure out how to get the TV to work.

117 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 7:54:04pm

re: #115 Kragar

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I dunno.
Can you actually wear their costumes while looking cool???
:P

118 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 7:56:57pm

re: #111 Varek Raith

Damn.

Those Hammer films were a big influence on my imagination, as a kid and since.

119 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 7:57:17pm

re: #116 BeachDem

So, on the one hand, we have somebody somewhere who has breached the personal data of every US govt. employee.

On the other hand we have me, with my new digital cable remote that I can’t figure out how to get anything but my BlueRay to work. Good thing we had our little chat about streaming on Amazon Prime, as right now, my only choices are streaming videos or DVDs.

I am SOOOO pathetic. Guess I’ll curl up with a good instruction manual to figure out how to get the TV to work.

LOL Just a couple of days ago I was telling a young 20-something that once upon a time all we had to do was plug a teevee into the wall and turn it on. He gave me the funniest look.

120 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 8:01:33pm

re: #115 Kragar

Screw this, if we get to pick our race, I’m going for it.

I’m Asgardian from now on.

Welcome to my world.

//

121 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 8:02:34pm
122 nearly-headless smith25  Jun 11, 2015 8:02:48pm

Hope everyone’s evening is going well.

Random thoughts for tonight:

There is a Beer Cheese festival about a half hour from home this weekend. Depending on my kids baseball tournament, I might try to go.

Glad to be a part of a community that values and understands the role of the teacher in the classroom.

This summer, I won’t be at the laptop as much, so I will be good friends with LGF Mobile.

Vine. Going to Vine more as well.

I think if the Cavs get the lead by the start of the 4th Quarter, they are going to win.

123 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 8:03:52pm

re: #119 allegro

LOL Just a couple of days ago I was telling a young 20-something that once upon a time all we had to do was plug a teevee into the wall and turn it on. He gave me the funniest look.

I know, right? If all else fails, I’ll get my 20-something neighbor (and/or her five-year-old daughter) to come over and figure it out for me.

I now have four remotes in play. The new cable remote (which I believe also makes toast) with its 9800 buttons, does not, for some reason, have the ability to change over to the HDMI input, which requires the original TV remote—then, once there, the BlueRay remote comes into play. And there’s a VCR remote for when I want to go old school. Arggghhh.

124 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 8:05:12pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I know, right? If all else fails, I’ll get my 20-something neighbor (and/or her five-year-old daughter) to come over and figure it out for me.

I now have four remotes in play. The new cable remote (which I believe also makes toast) with its 9800 buttons, does not, for some reason, have the ability to change over to the HDMI input, which requires the original TV remote—then, once there, the BlueRay remote comes into play. And there’s a VCR remote for when I want to go old school. Arggghhh.

You must realign the deflectors.

125 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 8:06:54pm
126 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 8:06:57pm

re: #117 Varek Raith

I dunno.
Can you actually wear their costumes while looking cool???
:P

Bitch please.

127 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 8:06:58pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

You must realign the deflectors.

I think I’d prefer to deflect the realigners.

128 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 11, 2015 8:11:14pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I found Christopher Lee’s voice spellbinding.

129 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 11, 2015 8:12:32pm

…and just like that a commercial for Ted 2 has the line “I want to sleep on a bed made with your voice”

130 William Lewis  Jun 11, 2015 8:15:15pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I fired up “The Shape of Jazz to Come” earlier today. I was reminded that hearing “Lonely Woman” the first time was just as mind bending as hearing “So What” for the first time for a farm boy from Wisconsin who only knew dixieland as jazz before discovering my dad’s records from 1959…

Learned a lot of Jazz since then and have tended towards Ellington the older I get but Davis & Coleman put a stamp on my brain.

131 CuriousLurker  Jun 11, 2015 8:17:29pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Dayyum, what’d you do to piss him off for so long?

132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 8:19:38pm

re: #114 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m sorry, but it seems like a real shame for people to be made dissatisfied with their ethnic characteristics just because of the Western media.

That’s my feeling, too. It also has a lot to do with Chinese (and Korean) attitudes toward female beauty. Lucy Liu or Zhang Ziyi by most Western standards would be considered knock-outs, but to Chinese (men or women) they are just meh in terms of looks. Chinese women aspire to have large eyes, fair skin, narrow nose, a slim figure (think of cheongsam dresses that hug a woman’s curves), and a heart-shaped face. Koreans seem to have similar desires, and many K-pop stars and TV/movie actresses have had cosmetic surgery to attain that level of “perfection.” But, as one of my students pointed, these stars end up looking alike.

jezebel.com

Even creepier are girls (meaning teens and early 20s) who want to look like anime characters, with HUGE eyes, pointy chins and figures that are doll-like. it’s not for cosplay, but for some warped manner of self-esteem. A teenager here in China, Lee Hee Danae, has had some radical surgery done to achieve this look, and the results are downright creepy. That is, if her photos aren’t some kind of elaborate hoax.
am.com.mx

133 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 8:20:04pm
134 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 8:20:57pm

re: #109 Kragar

How do you think we submitted the data? It was all electronic.

Well, yes.

I guess my point is that OPM is required for every job to have requirements stated. Sometimes one of the requirements is that the candidate must be able to obtain a security clearance. OPM would track thus if you 1) submitted an application for said clearance, and 2) whether or not you obtained said clearance. Otherwise they would not have a need to keep the contents of what you submitted.

Whatever agency you worked for would have a security officer who would be responsible for managing the data related to clearances. They would be the ones who would have kept the contents of what you submitted.

Unless things have changed radically since I was involved, which may be the case.

135 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 8:21:58pm

Apropos of peanuts, today I journeyed to midtown for my annual physical exam. Same as last year, though I did lose a couple of pounds — huzzah!! — but, as much as I like my very competent doctor, does he really have to tell me my age every time I see him?

Next year I’m bringing these guys with me.

Night night

136 Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2015 8:22:54pm

re: #131 CuriousLurker

Dayyum, what’d you do to piss him off for so long?

Just being my usual loveable self.

137 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 8:23:11pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I know, right? If all else fails, I’ll get my 20-something neighbor (and/or her five-year-old daughter) to come over and figure it out for me.

I now have four remotes in play. The new cable remote (which I believe also makes toast) with its 9800 buttons, does not, for some reason, have the ability to change over to the HDMI input, which requires the original TV remote—then, once there, the BlueRay remote comes into play. And there’s a VCR remote for when I want to go old school. Arggghhh.

I dunno what a cable remote is. I feel your pain. LOL

138 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 8:26:42pm

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

….A teenager here in China, Lee Hee Danae, has had some radical surgery done to achieve this look, and the results are downright creepy. That is, if her photos aren’t some kind of elaborate hoax.
am.com.mx

Gack!

139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2015 8:29:36pm

re: #138 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gack!

Yeah. Shanghaiist had more photos of her, but I can’t find them right now. She got her boobs enlarged, so she looks like one of the computer game chicks with the impossibly buoyant boobies over a 20-inch waist (or something) and narrow waist.

140 De Kolta Chair  Jun 11, 2015 8:30:46pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs
I irritated a lot of people near me when I was a teenager by playing Ornette Coleman’s “Science Fiction” at top volume, incessantly.

Senor, you rock.

141 Kragar  Jun 11, 2015 8:35:43pm
142 freetoken  Jun 11, 2015 8:36:05pm

Different sorts of icons passed away today:

Texan wrestling star Dusty Rhodes dies at 69

143 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 8:37:59pm

re: #137 allegro

I dunno what a cable remote is. I feel your pain. LOL

Oh wait. I think I just snapped to it. You have a box for your cable access that has a remote control device. It is connected to the teevee via antenna cable. Your BluRay is connected to your teevee via HDMI. Yeah, you need the teevee remote to select which device you want to access at which point that device remote will control the selected device. Your teevee remote is the master. Tell it what to do and the others will take over from there.

144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 8:39:45pm

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah. Shanghaiist had more photos of her, but I can’t find them right now. She got her boobs enlarged, so she looks like one of the computer game chicks with the impossibly buoyant boobies over a 20-inch waist (or something) and narrow waist.

Here’s The Mirror. I can’t decide on the authenticity question. Well, the boobs are real existent.

“Too beautiful to look at?” Cultures vary, I guess.

145 goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2015 8:41:57pm

This Rachel Dolezal business just went Turbo.

146 CuriousLurker  Jun 11, 2015 8:49:23pm

Okay, so I’ve finally decided that I’m pretty much going to go prime lenses only. I’m gonna get the new Canon 24mm f/2.8 lens—while it’s on sale—and ditch the 18-55mm kit lens that came with my T3i. So that means I’ll have a 24mm & 40mm pancake lenses, an 85mm f/1.8, and my beloved (but very heavy) 100mm f/2.8 macro as my main lenses.

The macro will only come along if I’m sure I’m gonna need it because of the weight (the 85mm is on the heavy side too, so it has to be one or the other). I’ll keep my 55-250mm f/4-5.6 telephoto zoom until sometime in the (probably very distant) future when I can afford either the 200mm f/2.8L or the 70-200mm f/4L—I’ll have to figure out what’s more important to me, the zoom or the faster aperture. I’m NOT paying $1000 or more for a freaking lens. If I was a pro or had lots of disposable income, then yeah.

So that leaves only my poor, neglected little 50mm f/1.8 “plastic fantastic”. I hate that lens. Seriously, just looking at it annoys me, and I’m annoyed that I’m annoyed because it’s just a freaking inanimate object, FFS. It takes a nice enough photo, but the focus is s-l-o-w, I hate the cheap plastic mount (which the kit lens & the 55-250mm also have), and the focal length… it just feels weird to me. Maybe I wouldn’t hate it so much if I had a full frame camera. Then again, if I could afford a full frame I probably wouldn’t stick a crappy $100 lens on it.

#FirstWorldProblems

Did I emotion that I bought a variable ND filter and the 500D close-up lens to go with my other 250D one? Yeah, I know there are cheaper sets out there, but these have two achromatic elements to correct chromatic aberrations, so there’s essentially no loss of light or sharpness.

Yeah, tl;dr. //

147 Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2015 8:50:47pm
148 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 8:52:14pm

re: #144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s The Mirror. I can’t decide on the authenticity question. Well, the boobs are real existent.

“Too beautiful to look at?” Cultures vary, I guess.

That makes my heart ache, what we do to young women. Even now teaching them that their value lies in fantastically unrealistic ideals of appearance.

149 Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2015 8:54:41pm

re: #146 CuriousLurker

Good for you. I feel ya, it’s growing pains. Skills, then gear then skills again. That’s why I went 400 prime with that last big lens I bought. No more zoom and all the extra elements inside.

150 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 8:55:29pm

re: #143 allegro

Oh wait. I think I just snapped to it. You have a box for your cable access that has a remote control device. It is connected to the teevee via antenna cable. Your BluRay is connected to your teevee via HDMI. Yeah, you need the teevee remote to select which device you want to access at which point that device remote will control the selected device. Your teevee remote is the master. Tell it what to do and the others will take over from there.

That’s it, in theory. In practice, not so much. For some reason, I can’t get the cable channels to come up. I set the tv remote to TV, but all I get is the little “no signal” box bouncing around the screen. It worked fine last night, but won’t work now.

151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 8:55:31pm

re: #148 allegro

That makes my heart ache, what we do to young women. Even now teaching them that their value lies in fantastically unrealistic ideals of appearance.

Yeah…women in this country are having their false ribs removed to look skinnier. But then, I think Rebel Wilson is a freakin’ goddess, so you can’t go by me.

152 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 8:56:43pm

First season True Detective marathon on HBO.

153 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 9:01:50pm

The Rachel Dolezal saga kind of reminds me of Neil Murdoch.

There’s only one paved road into crested Butte, Colorado — Route 135, a meandering two-laner that winds up from Gunnison through wildflower meadows and jittery stands of aspen — and the locals have always liked it that way. A quiet mining town built tight against the Elk Mountains, it has long been a place where people with checkered pasts came to hide out, to hang low, to start over, no questions asked.

The prospect of starting over is apparently what lured Pennsylvanian Neil Murdoch up Route 135 in the winter of 1974. A bright, genial man of restless energy, Murdoch, who was then 34, would play a pivotal role in birthing the sport that’s now the town religion: mountain biking. In the mid-70s he started attaching cannibalized parts to battered Schwinn frames and field-testing the results on the old cow paths braiding through the Elk Mountains. Before he knew it, he’d become one of the entrepreneurial forefathers of the fat-tire revolution by opening what is generally considered the second mountain-bike shop in the nation, Bicycles Etcetera. Then, in 1982, he started Crested Butte’s annual Fat Tire Bike Week, which would ultimately become one of the country’s largest mountain-bike festivals.

Read the whole thing, it’s a fascinating piece. What does a mountain biking pioneer do when his cocaine smuggling past finally catches up to him? He rides like hell.

154 Belafon  Jun 11, 2015 9:04:20pm

re: #115 Kragar

I’m Gallifreyan.

155 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 9:07:04pm

re: #150 BeachDem

That’s it, in theory. In practice, not so much. For some reason, I can’t get the cable channels to come up. I set the tv remote to TV, but all I get is the little “no signal” box bouncing around the screen. It worked fine last night, but won’t work now.

re: #150 BeachDem

That’s it, in theory. In practice, not so much. For some reason, I can’t get the cable channels to come up. I set the tv remote to TV, but all I get is the little “no signal” box bouncing around the screen. It worked fine last night, but won’t work now.

Well damned if I know. I’m proud to get as far as I did.

156 CuriousLurker  Jun 11, 2015 9:07:34pm

re: #149 Great White Snark

Good for you. I feel ya, it’s growing pains. Skills, then gear then skills again. That’s why I went 400 prime with that last big lens I bought. No more zoom and all the extra elements inside.

I hear you. I’ve found that I hardly ever take my 40mm off the camera. I want the 24mm because on my APS-C it’ll be the closest thing I can get to 35mm. I took several photos with my kit lens set at 24mm, just to be sure I liked it. I did—it’s wide enough. Besides, I rarely ever use the 18mm setting on the kit lens, so I figure I don’t really need anything wider than 24mm.

Both the 85mm & 100mm macro take gorgeous portrait photos. The 85mm has a very creamy bokeh, but it also suffers somewhat form chromatic aberration when shot wide open.

I’d love to have a 400mm, but too expensive & too damned heavy.

157 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 9:08:13pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

If you did read this, the feds did track down Neil Murdoch, in 2001.

158 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 9:10:04pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I know, right? If all else fails, I’ll get my 20-something neighbor (and/or her five-year-old daughter) to come over and figure it out for me.

I now have four remotes in play. The new cable remote (which I believe also makes toast) with its 9800 buttons, does not, for some reason, have the ability to change over to the HDMI input, which requires the original TV remote—then, once there, the BlueRay remote comes into play. And there’s a VCR remote for when I want to go old school. Arggghhh.

Chances are good your new cable remote doesn’t have the codes for your TV or your Blu-ray built in, so it doesn’t know how to talk to the boxes, essentially. So the TV remote is needed to tell the TV which input you want it to listen to: the cable box or the Blu-ray? Then, you use the Blu-ray remote to control the Blu-ray, while you use the cable remove to control the cable box.

Your last cable box was probably set up to listen to your TV remote. It’s probably possible to do it with the new one too, but I need specific info on remote types, etc. in order to find clear directions.

159 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:10:27pm

re: #150 BeachDem

Do you need to pick the correct “source” from the list? Our cable is hdm12 as compared to a diff one for blu-ray

160 CuriousLurker  Jun 11, 2015 9:12:59pm

Okay, it’s after midnight and my ‘puter is turning back into a pumpkin, so I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

161 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:13:47pm

re: #159 prairiefire

There’s a source button the blu ray remote that should bring up the super imposed List on the screen.

162 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 9:14:28pm

re: #150 BeachDem

That’s it, in theory. In practice, not so much. For some reason, I can’t get the cable channels to come up. I set the tv remote to TV, but all I get is the little “no signal” box bouncing around the screen. It worked fine last night, but won’t work now.

In other words, once you have set the TV remote to the correct input for the cable box, make sure the cable box is turned on using the cable box remote. If nothing comes up still, go through the different inputs on your TV. It’s possible where it is plugged in got changed.

163 Belafon  Jun 11, 2015 9:17:19pm

I had one of those fun arguments with my parents over the actions at the McKinney pool. My parents are those soft white bigots. They’re OK with Obama, and if every black would just act like the first family, they just know everything would be all right. It’s all this rioting that keeps going on that proves to my parents that most of them just can’t be trusted. They’re in their 60s, and growing up in Abilene, TX, it really was better to them when everyone just kept their heads down and kept quiet.

I did call bullshit a lot tonight. My mom worked at jails, and so she attempts to justify her views based on the people she had to deal with at the jail. She once had a 17 year old that bit her, so she just knows that the girl at the pool could have been just as mean if the cop hadn’t done what he did. And those kids could have picked up something off the street that they could have used against the cop. And we don’t know why the cop was being aggressive; he could have had to deal with a bunch of kids before he got to the pool and that’s why he was all worked up. When I brought up that the white kids were saying the same things the black kids were, her statement was that the white boy could have had a black girlfriend. “So, they’re all lying?” I asked.

As I said, my parents just want everyone to go back to everyone being quiet and knowing their place.

164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 9:17:42pm

re: #162 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In other words, once you have set the TV remote to the correct input for the cable box, make sure the cable box is turned on using the cable box remote. If nothing comes up still, go through the different inputs on your TV. It’s possible where it is plugged in got changed.

I’ve got a Vizio TV, and I thought the HDMI inputs were no good—until I figured out they’re numbered from bottom to top!!!

165 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 9:18:38pm

re: #164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve got a Vizio TV, and I thought the HDMI inputs were no good—until I figured out they’re numbered from bottom to top!!!

I swear to you I still can’t find the input on the receiver where the Sonos system is plugged in, and we managed to break the LCD screen on the universal remote so that it is all white but still functional, so I can’t find the damn button to switch to it.

166 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 9:19:34pm

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If there is a moral to this story it is don’t break the screen of your universal remote, you will regret it.

167 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:21:28pm

re: #164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve got a Vizio TV, and I thought the HDMI inputs were no good—until I figured out they’re numbered from bottom to top!!!

I’ve got a 12 year old son to help.

168 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 9:22:37pm

re: #167 prairiefire

I’ve got a 12 year old son to help.

He’d just say “RYFM”—but that’s cheating!

169 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:25:14pm

re: #168 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’d just say “RYFM”—but that’s cheating!

Really, you fooling me

170 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 11, 2015 9:30:21pm

re: #168 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’d just say “RYFM”—but that’s cheating!

I always heard it as “RTFM”

RBS

171 Jenner7  Jun 11, 2015 9:30:23pm

Tomorrow, Jurassic World with kiddos. Saturday, my 18th wedding anniversary. Sunday, steaks and home made potato salad. Yay!

Have a good weekend, all!

172 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 9:30:46pm

I’m just real pleased that I got my new surround sound system working via HDMI and optical cable to my Sony teevee and can access via the other HDMI from the Firestick to Amazon music to groove to inspiring music which is right now David Garrett. Swoon. Jeez they make us fucking work for it these days.

173 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 9:34:14pm

re: #158 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chances are good your new cable remote doesn’t have the codes for your TV or your Blu-ray built in, so it doesn’t know how to talk to the boxes, essentially. So the TV remote is needed to tell the TV which input you want it to listen to: the cable box or the Blu-ray? Then, you use the Blu-ray remote to control the Blu-ray, while you use the cable remove to control the cable box.

Your last cable box was probably set up to listen to your TV remote. It’s probably possible to do it with the new one too, but I need specific info on remote types, etc. in order to find clear directions.

When the guy hooked it up yesterday, the cable worked fine. He told me I had to use the TV remote to change to the HDMI setting for the BlueRay. That worked fine as well. But when I turned the TV on today, I’m getting the No Signal box—

Here’s the remote:

timewarnercable.com

I did what it said, it took the code, it flashed twice, and it still won’t work.

I’ll try again tomorrow (or I’ll just watch dvds and streaming stuff through the BlueRay.)

174 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 11, 2015 9:36:40pm

re: #173 BeachDem

When the guy hooked it up yesterday, the cable worked fine. He told me I had to use the TV remote to change to the HDMI setting for the BlueRay. That worked fine as well. But when I turned the TV on today, I’m getting the No Signal box—

Here’s the remote:

timewarnercable.com

I did what it said, it took the code, it flashed twice, and it still won’t work.

I’ll try again tomorrow (or I’ll just watch dvds and streaming stuff through the BlueRay.)

Huh.

Well, if all else fails call them back. >.>

175 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 9:37:09pm

re: #167 prairiefire

I’ve got a 12 year old son to help.

I have a five-year old neighbor I’ll be calling tomorrow!

176 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:38:41pm

re: #173 BeachDem

I have that time Warner remote, but I have to use the second remote that came with the blu-ray that has a “source” button to get back to my list that the source button brings up when pushed.

177 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 11, 2015 9:39:06pm

re: #175 BeachDem

I have a five-year old neighbor I’ll be calling tomorrow!

Internet Help Desk…. An oldie but a goodie.

The hold button is your best friend…

178 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 9:40:00pm

re: #173 BeachDem

When the guy hooked it up yesterday, the cable worked fine. He told me I had to use the TV remote to change to the HDMI setting for the BlueRay. That worked fine as well. But when I turned the TV on today, I’m getting the No Signal box—

Here’s the remote:

timewarnercable.com

I did what it said, it took the code, it flashed twice, and it still won’t work.

I’ll try again tomorrow (or I’ll just watch dvds and streaming stuff through the BlueRay.)

If you’re getting the no signal thing I think your problem isn’t the remote or anything you’re doing. It isn’t getting connection. It’s at the source. Check the teevee connection, the wall. If they are secure, the issue is outside. Call your provider.

179 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:43:52pm

There Should Be A Second Remote That Came With The Blu-Ray. This Will Have A Source Button. I went through this situation before

180 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 9:46:35pm

I’ve been used to having 3 or 4 remotes—6 or 8 counting living room and bedroom—for years, but xfinity has really made huge strides lately in that area. The cable remote will do everything now. It used to be it could never call up a unit’s menu, but now it can, at least for everything I have.

I have to use the TV remote in the bedroom every once in a great while to change the aspect ratio, but that’s Samsung’s fault for not putting that on the TV’s menu.

181 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 9:47:37pm

re: #126 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Bitch please.

Pics or gtfo.
/

182 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 9:47:38pm

So this is the guy I’m listening to now… watch and listen. Really. Yum on too many levels.

I can’t even make Charles’ instant video linky things work on my kindle fire. Apologies for the not embedded video.

183 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 9:50:37pm

We’re being defeated by technologically fiendish thingies!!

184 teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2015 9:53:29pm

Technology.

185 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 9:53:57pm

re: #179 prairiefire

There Should Be A Second Remote That Came With The Blu-Ray. This Will Have A Source Button. I went through this situation before

I am so freakin’ useless.

OK—TV remote has the source button—TV, AV, Component, HDMI 1 (the BlueRay) HDMI 2, Media.

The Blue Ray works fine as it did before.

The only other source button that does anything is the Media, which brings up one useless channel on the TV but the channels won’t change.

Oh, fuck it—thanks for all your help guys; I am pretty useless. But I have many techie neighbors, so I’ll play the “old lady doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing” card tomorrow and one of them will figure it out.

186 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 9:56:03pm

Shadow vessel hull in your bathroom?
Check.

187 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2015 9:58:47pm

re: #186 Varek Raith

Shadow vessel hull in your bathroom?
Check.

[Embedded content]

Better than a Vorlon squid-ship, I guess.

188 prairiefire  Jun 11, 2015 9:59:46pm

re: #185 BeachDem

Let us know how it goes, I could very well find myself In the same situation!

189 allegro  Jun 11, 2015 10:00:22pm

re: #186 Varek Raith

Shadow vessel hull in your bathroom?
Check.

Embedded Image

I don’t EVEN wanna know. It involves pain, I just can tell.

190 Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2015 10:01:45pm

re: #189 allegro

I don’t EVEN wanna know. It involves pain, I just can tell.

babylon5.wikia.com

191 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 10:02:42pm

re: #183 allegro

We’re being defeated by technologically fiendish thingies!!

Well, I certainly am! (And funny thing is, I have friends who are even more inept than I am, who call me whenever they’re panicked about computer thingies not working. I know just enough to be dangerous. But sometimes I can help.)

Of course, I also have phantom equipment—i.e. my laptop has a ghost cursor that appears and disappears randomly—and sometimes no cursor at all, and the touchscreen just arbitrarily brings up various apps, whether I’m touching the screen or not.

I think I have extreme electro-magnetic force fields in my body that wreak havoc on electronics. Hey—that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

192 BeachDem  Jun 11, 2015 10:04:25pm

re: #188 prairiefire

Let us know how it goes, I could very well find myself In the same situation!

I will take notes when I get somebody to fix it. (Takes me back to my DOS days, where I had notebooks full of commands and instructions.)

193 piratedan  Jun 12, 2015 12:13:43am

quick question… how long ago was Snowden in Hong Kong?

194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 12, 2015 1:29:10am

re: #193 piratedan

quick question… how long ago was Snowden in Hong Kong?

2013

195 SirMixALot  Jun 12, 2015 3:03:00pm

Snowden didn’t even need to give the Chinese or Russians the information directly, he released it to the press. He gave the globe the how to guide.


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