At Last, the GOP Clown Car Has Its Bozo: Birther Donald Trump

So many clowns in that little car
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Every Clown Car needs its Bozo, and the GOP presidential campaign now has its very own — the world’s most famous Birther: Donald Trump.

And the Donald kicked it off with a series of incredibly fatuous statements. This is gonna be great, from the inadvertent comedy angle.

“I’m really rich,” Trump said after declaring his candidacy today.

Trump made many promises throughout his speech today: “I would do various things very quickly. I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare.”

“I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.”

“Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump, nobody.”

“I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons,” said Trump, who also said that he wouldn’t allow Secretary Kerry to spearhead the negotiations.

“And I promise I will never be in a bicycle race,” said Trump, referring to Sec. Kerry’s biking accident in May.

[…]

He added, “I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.”

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620 comments
1 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 9:53:26am
2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 9:53:29am

“Gunz on every table!!11!!”

3 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jun 16, 2015 9:54:00am

DNC said it best:

4 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:54:45am

re: #3 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

DNC said it best:

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Yeah I loved that. I read it in a British accent too.

5 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 9:54:50am

From downstairs because new thread (I feel like CL, lol!)

6 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 9:55:19am

Dim Jim is having many orgasms

7 Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2015 9:56:05am

He says he’s running but he has yet to file any financial disclosure.

8 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:56:32am

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim is having many orgasms

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Those two deserve each other.

9 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 9:57:11am

Frank says:

It’s not pretty, also you can’t dance to it.

10 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:04am

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

He says he’s running but he has yet to file any financial disclosure.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:26am
Trump made many promises throughout his speech today: “I would do various things very quickly. I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare.”

Oh, “replace”, too? Tell me more.

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12 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:40am

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim is having many orgasms

Dim Jim. Still dim.

13 SteelPH  Jun 16, 2015 9:59:20am

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

MARKETS JUMP FOR TRUMP

Yeah, right off a cliff.

14 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:59:33am

re: #11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, “replace”, too? Tell me more.

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Yeah I really want to hear what the Republicans intend to replace the repealed ACA with. God they just can’t get over the fact that ACA is not only popular but it fucking works.

15 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:59:52am

re: #12 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Dim Jim. Still dim.

Always Dim. It’s a perpetual state with him.

16 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 10:00:53am

re: #13 SteelPH

Yeah, right off a cliff.

I bet The Donald could get the DOW above 18,000.

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17 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 10:01:24am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

From downstairs because new thread (I feel like CL, lol!)

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Once, but who’s counting?

18 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 10:01:38am

re: #13 SteelPH

Yeah, right off a cliff.

Remember when Obama inherited Bush’s 20k Dow and ran it down to 8,000?

#MakeAmericaGrateAgain

19 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 10:01:39am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Always Dim. It’s a perpetual state with him.

He’ll die a stupid, reactionary bigot. Some people are beyond hope.

20 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 16, 2015 10:02:03am

The Stock market has really tanked since Obama was elected.

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2015 10:03:12am

Alright Donald, let’s see those financial disclosures!

22 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:26am

Trump is gleefully retweeting all this shit:

23 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:35am

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

Alright Donald, let’s see those financial disclosures!

Hell will freeze over long before that ever happens.

24 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:42am

re: #19 No Country For Old Haters

He’ll die a stupid, reactionary bigot. Some people are beyond hope.

Yeah we are talking about a man who got puffy because the Obama’s used a photo of fireworks taken on New Years for a 4th of July Twitter post. And of course, Mr. University of Iowa Hawkeye.

25 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:52am
26 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:57am

Oh guys. I forgot. Pataki is running too.

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:05am

I still love the WWE Battle Royal idea. Put all the candidates in a cage and let them duke it out. Whoever comes out on top gets the nom.

28 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:36am

OT already…. just wanna say that anyone who has ever provided phone tech support for a living has my undying respect for fortitude and patience. A friend called me to say that someone gave her a printer that she wants to install. Her first question: what does HP mean? It went downhill from there.

29 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:47am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I still love the WWE Battle Royal idea. Put all the candidates in a cage and let them duke it out. Whoever comes out on top gets the nom.

IS THAT CHENEY REPELLING DOWN WITH A LADDER?!

30 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:49am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is gleefully retweeting all this shit:

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31 lawhawk  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:49am

Trump is a xenophobic, science-illiterate, pandering fool whose fanboys are more of the same. He peddles anti-vax nonsense, checks which way the wind blows with the hair and decides to flip and flop on everything from health care reform to abortion.

And he’s benefited greatly from government largesse - whether its sweetheart deals to build golf courses for the rich and famous on public land in the Bronx (where the neighborhood could only wish to be caddies - or to get their park land back) to all manner of tax abatements and other deals that help him build real estate for the rich and famous.

And that doesn’t even touch on the way he’s built a personal fortune while his casino ventures have blown up spectacularly in bankruptcy after bankruptcy.

32 blueraven  Jun 16, 2015 10:07:00am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is gleefully retweeting all this shit:

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Greta luvs her some Trump. She has him on her show all the time.
Well, she was very friendly with Palin too. So much for her judgement.

33 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:07:15am

So here’s your final GOP candidate roster I think and please feel free to correct me:
Jeb Bush
Scott Walker
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
George Pataki
Lindsay Graham
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Rick Perry
Chris Christie
Bobby Jindal
John Kasich- h/t blueraven

34 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:07:59am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I still love the WWE Battle Royal idea. Put all the candidates in a cage and let them duke it out. Whoever comes out on top gets the nom.

Build a Hunger Games arena!

35 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:08:36am

And the winner with 14.7% of the votes is ????????????????

36 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:08:53am

re: #11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, “replace”, too? Tell me more.

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Replace it with a different ‘Big Lie,’ no doubt.
/

37 blueraven  Jun 16, 2015 10:09:38am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

So here’s your final GOP candidate roster I think and please feel free to correct me:
Jeb Bush
Scott Walker
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
George Pataki
Lindsay Graham
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Rick Perry
Chris Christie
Bobby Jindal

Some of those have not yet declared, but I would also add John Kasich.

38 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 10:10:24am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

So here’s your final GOP candidate roster I think and please feel free to correct me:
Jeb Bush
Scott Walker
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
George Pataki
Lindsay Graham
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Rick Perry
Chris Christie
Bobby Jindal

Mos Eisley wants their scum and villainy back.

39 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:10:41am

re: #37 blueraven

Some of those have not yet declared, but I would also add John Kasich.

Damn i did forget someone.

40 lawhawk  Jun 16, 2015 10:11:13am

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Build a Hunger Games arena!

The odds are NOT in our favor.

41 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 10:11:28am

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

Mos Eisley wants their scum and villainy back.

No.
It’s finally getting nice here.
Only real villains need live here.
;)

42 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:12:01am

I had to.

43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 10:12:53am

The GOP has long since lost the ability to call out Crazy and distance themselves from it. They have come to embrace the Crazy and it has consumed the party.

44 mr.fusion  Jun 16, 2015 10:13:47am

My money’s still on Fiorina vs Chaffee once the dust settles

45 Jebediah, RBG  Jun 16, 2015 10:14:29am

re: #31 lawhawk

And that doesn’t even touch on the way he’s built a personal fortune while his casino ventures have blown up spectacularly in bankruptcy after bankruptcy.

Sure, his casinos have gone belly up repeatedly - but he’s gone intellectually bankrupt just the one time!

46 blueraven  Jun 16, 2015 10:14:41am

re: #44 mr.fusion

My money’s still on Fiorina vs Chaffee once the dust settles

Don’t go to Vegas!

47 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:15:01am

Depressed yet?

48 Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2015 10:15:33am
“I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.”

I guess he’s planning on declaring bankruptcy and sticking Mexico with the bill.

49 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 10:16:14am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Now that’s what I call global warming.

50 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 10:16:23am

re: #31 lawhawk

And that doesn’t even touch on the way he’s built a personal fortune while his casino ventures have blown up spectacularly in bankruptcy after bankruptcy.

I think that’s probably intentional. It allows him to take profits from his successes, and screw his creditors in all his spectacular failures. This is how a mediocre businessman becomes wealthy.

51 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 10:16:26am

Thanks, Trump!

52 blueraven  Jun 16, 2015 10:16:43am

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

I guess he’s planning on declaring bankruptcy and sticking Mexico with the bill.

He can ask Abbott for some of that Texas Gold!

53 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:17:59am

re: #52 blueraven

He can ask Abbott for some of that Texas Gold!

HURR HURR HIS PILE OF GOLD IS MOAR BIGGER!!!!!!

54 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:19:49am

Suggestions for primary competitions
1.) Reagan love sonnet contests
2.) Tax cut contest- who can give the people who need a tax cut least the biggest tax cut.
3.) Obama charades contest.

55 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2015 10:20:11am

OT but LOL.

wgntv.com

56 blueraven  Jun 16, 2015 10:21:28am

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR HIS PILE OF GOLD IS MOAR BIGGER!!!!!!

It’s Yuuuuge!

57 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:22:46am
58 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 10:25:41am

Bozo the clown. Complete with hair of the yak and size 83 shoes.

59 Drive By Commenter  Jun 16, 2015 10:26:48am

The GOP really doesn’t have any answers. It has shows. And performers. And clowns. Lots and lots of clowns.

60 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:27:38am

Why is “Send In The Clowns” such a boring, slow, depressing song?

61 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:27:46am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Suggestions for primary competitions
1.) Reagan love sonnet contests
2.) Tax cut contest- who can give the people who need a tax cut least the biggest tax cut.
3.) Obama charades contest.

4.) Derogatory Obama nickname contest
5.) American flag swimsuit competition
6.) Absurd legislation/Constitutional Amendment proposal
7.) Scariest characterization of Muslims

It sucks that most of these will show up in the course of the debates anyway.

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 10:28:04am

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

I guess he’s planning on declaring bankruptcy and sticking Mexico with the bill.

Or bankrupt the US, destroy the domestic job market, and then Mexico will build the wall to keep out the destitute Americans trying to cross the border to find jobs.

63 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:28:32am

re: #61 makeitstop

4.) Derogatory Obama nickname contest
5.) American flag swimsuit competition
6.) Absurd legislation/Constitutional Amendment proposal
7.) Scariest characterization of Muslims

It sucks that most of these will show up in the course of the debates anyway.

SEXIEST GUN-FUCKING MEME!

64 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 10:28:42am

re: #51 Varek Raith

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Thanks, Trump!

How well do steam-powered aircraft fly?

65 Varek Raith  Jun 16, 2015 10:30:14am

re: #64 Feline Fearless Leader

How well do steam-powered aircraft fly?

Not well.
They pay you to take them!

66 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:30:22am

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

SEXIEST GUN-FUCKING MEME!

I regret that I have but one upding to give to this comment.

67 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 10:32:01am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

“There has never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 10:32:22am
69 Kryptik  Jun 16, 2015 10:32:54am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

My worry isn’t he’d get anywhere near the presidency. He’s too inept for the full campaign. My worry is how much his involvement will instigate further clown car shit getting normalized because insipid golden mean bullshit coverage of this shitshow. See CNN’s slobbering adoration.

Even when the honeymoon is over, them taking him as seriously as they are now will only serve to make the minutely less crazy of the current line up somehow more palatable and reasonable by comparison. Not by much, but enough for further golden mean “both sides same thing but Dems are always worse” shit.

70 S'latch  Jun 16, 2015 10:33:12am

He’s delusional, and his hair is all the proof that anyone should need.

71 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:33:12am

Oh, dear. Someone on Facebook just proposed a Giuliani/Trump ticket. And he was serious.

72 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:35:14am

re: #71 makeitstop

Oh, dear. Someone on Facebook just proposed a Giuliani/Trump ticket. And he was serious.

I guess someone saw Rudy on Making of the American Mob- New York last night and thought he was still relevant.

73 Kryptik  Jun 16, 2015 10:35:24am

re: #67 EPR-radar

Clearly you haven’t been paying attention to the current crop of GOP govs.

74 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:35:42am

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seriously. From Honest Abe to Donald Trump.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 10:36:09am
76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 10:41:40am

So, overnight this hatchling reposted a version of a page that got voted off the pages list.

77 A Cranky One  Jun 16, 2015 10:45:00am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, overnight this hatchling reposted a version of a page that got voted off the pages list.

Down dinged, comment added.

78 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:47:59am

This thread has really slowed down.

Is everyone trying to catch their breath from laughing so hard? I know I am.

79 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:49:29am

Welp, I got a call on my phone from two-one-three five-five-five one-two-one-two which used to be the old number for “directory assistance”

I rejected the call figuring that it’s probably some telemarketer masking their real number.

A little Googling told me they are some sleazy scammers.

80 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:50:06am

If I had answered they’d probably ask me to donate to the Trump campaign.

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 10:50:41am
82 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 10:50:45am

Freepers have reacted to Trump’s announcement:

With nearly 9 billion dollars, finance won’t be an issue
—

I only need a few dollars to buy all the popcorn I need.
—

If he really is serious about this (and that’s a big if), don’t underestimate him. Things are just crazy enough that he could emerge as another Perot.
—

His 9 billion makes him a serious contender
—

I wouldn’t vote for him if he gave me all 9 billion.
—

“With nearly 9 billion dollars, finance won’t be an issue”

Yeah, so he won’t be like the other “monkeys on a string” pandering to Wall Street and other big business interests. I’m glad he’s in because at the minimum, he’s going to force the rest of the GOP candidates to come out from under their various rocks and answer the tough questions.
—

If it gets down to Trump vs Hillary I’m voting for Trump.
—

In the announcement, he’s right on immigration, on jobs, on ObamaCare, and on the border fence.

I don’t know where he’s at on social issues.

He’s right on China, Trade, ObamaTrade, money manipulation, and the castration of America.
—

“I wouldn’t vote for him if he gave me all 9 billion.”

I sure would.

After voting Republican for decades, it would be the first time I got anything for it!
—

Did you watch the announcement? I suspect that Trump’s real serious. It was a heavy-hitting take-no-prisoners speech. He brought up most of the issues that bother us, and was convincing about how he’s the person to bring those issues around. And something unusual in Trump…he looked a bit nervous, but still confident.
I suspect that Trump’s bigger-than-life personality might be the Hail Mary pass the US needs to shake things up.

I’m not committed to any candidate anymore, but sure am glad Trump’s in it.
—

I’m not so sure we want a shy, self-effacing President.

The guy LOVES this country. He lived the American Dream. He has made his kids learn hard and work hard even with the perks they receive from being his kids.

We could do a whole lot worse. He’s not going to be beholden for money. That is, as he would say it, YUGE.

I’d vote for him over Hillary even with all his faults. He isn’t needy. Psychologically needy candidates are DANGEROUS. Obama, Newt, Clinton. Would President Trump do stupid things? Yes. Would he dare to actually overturn ObamaCare? Would he speak the truth to Radical Islam? Would he build a better USA economy? Yes too.

We’ve had [expletive deleted] Obama as our President for seven years. If we had to go Trump, it could still be a 200% improvement.
—

Trump/Fiorina 2016 An ass kicking team that cannot be bought
—

To be fair, most Freepers seem to not be buying into Trump’s bullshit. But a few are, and that’s scary.

83 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:50:49am
84 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:50:52am

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, I got a call on my phone from two-one-three five-five-five one-two-one-two which used to be the old number for “directory assistance”

I rejected the call figuring that it’s probably some telemarketer masking their real number.

A little Googling told me they are some sleazy scammers.

I keep getting calls from Iowa. Iowa.

Nope, don’t know anybody in Iowa. No cheery hello for you.

85 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:53:24am
86 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:53:51am

Why would the “conservatives” elect a man who has gone bankrupt —how many times?

87 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 10:53:54am

re: #82 Lidane

He’s right on China, Trade, ObamaTrade, money manipulation, and the castration of America.

This Freeper watches a lot of TV or Internets a lot.

88 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 16, 2015 10:55:35am

re: #71 makeitstop

Oh, dear. Someone on Facebook just proposed a Giuliani/Trump ticket. And he was serious.

Terrible idea, only because having two on the slate from the same state does not get you those extra electoral votes. Amirite? //

89 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 10:55:48am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

Why would the “conservatives” elect a man who has gone bankrupt —how many times?

How Many Times Has Donald Trump Filed For Bankruptcy?

90 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 10:56:56am

Dammit. I can’t get “Blues for Bozo” out of my head now.

Yak, yak, yak.

91 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:57:17am
92 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:57:45am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

Why would the “conservatives” elect a man who has gone bankrupt —how many times?

The same reason they would elect a CEO who crashed the company.

93 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:59:10am

10 Things Men Do That Really Turn Women Off

11. Being Donald Trump

94 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 10:59:14am
95 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 10:59:30am

re: #89 makeitstop

How Many Times Has Donald Trump Filed For Bankruptcy?

You are a wonderful person!

96 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:02:24am

In case you had been looking for a few pages:
EIGHT PAGES OF THE GUTENBERG BIBLE FOR SALE

In an email today, a JTS spokesman commented on the sale, “Over the past century, the Library, as part of its core mission, has implemented an acquisitions program to purchase general collections that include the kind of Hebrew and Judaic material that comport with its core mission. As a byproduct of those purchases, the Library has found itself in possession of a number of important non-Hebrew incunabula, Latin Christian works which have a significant and intrinsic value but do not contribute to the Library’s core mission. Because scholars rarely turn to JTS for these non-Hebrew materials, they have lay dormant on library shelves for the 90 years they have been in our collection. It has become clear that these volumes would better serve as scholarly resources in other collections and in keeping with best practices among academic libraries, and after due consideration, The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary has chosen to deaccession these important non-Hebrew incunabula.”

97 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 11:05:33am
98 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:06:12am

Apart from the general hilarity that has ensued from the Trump Announcement, there is OUTRAGE!!!!! seething on #TCOT over the Pope not being sufficiently Catholic.

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:06:36am
100 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:06:38am

Baba posted this page:
Far-Right Christian Pastor Calls All Jewish Holocaust Survivors ‘Paid Liars’

I checked it out and yes, the Far-Right Christian Paster takes Visa, Mastercard, Amex, Discover and BITCOIN!!!

101 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2015 11:07:41am

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

Because you’re not listening to the Krusty The Clown rendition.

102 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:07:44am

Derpers gonna Derp

103 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:09:08am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Yeah I really want to hear what the Republicans intend to replace the repealed ACA with. God they just can’t get over the fact that ACA is not only popular but it fucking works.

They can’t bring up Replace because they would replace it with Obamacare (calling it RepublicanCare). They have no ideas. Not in a generation.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:09:59am
105 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:11:16am
106 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 11:12:30am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

Apart from the general hilarity that has ensued from the Trump Announcement, there is OUTRAGE!!!!! seething on #TCOT over the Pope not being sufficiently Catholic.

He doesn’t shit in the woods, either.

107 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 11:12:45am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump’s 1-page summary of his financial assets & liabilities. Net worth: $8.7 billion

I have my doubts that that’s gonna cut it with the FEC.

108 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 11:12:49am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To think he could use some of that to pay back creditors he screwed with his bankruptsies.

Naaaaaaaw.

109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 11:13:40am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

Derpers gonna Derp

Hurr hurr

110 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:13:50am

Srsly Ben is this your best shot?

111 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 11:14:40am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

Apart from the general hilarity that has ensued from the Trump Announcement, there is OUTRAGE!!!!! seething on #TCOT over the Pope not being sufficiently Catholic.

They’re all more Catholic than the Pope.

/

112 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:14:48am

re: #69 Kryptik

My worry isn’t he’d get anywhere near the presidency. He’s too inept for the full campaign. My worry is how much his involvement will instigate further clown car shit getting normalized because insipid golden mean bullshit coverage of this shitshow. See CNN’s slobbering adoration.

Even when the honeymoon is over, them taking him as seriously as they are now will only serve to make the minutely less crazy of the current line up somehow more palatable and reasonable by comparison. Not by much, but enough for further golden mean “both sides same thing but Dems are always worse” shit.

Anything that further exposes the GOP complete turn to the insane works for me. Maybe then we can have a functioning government and a sane opposition again.

113 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 11:15:27am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Srsly Ben is this your best shot?

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Because siding with the powerless against the powerful is something a smug asshole like BS cannot comprehend.

114 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 11:15:54am
115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:16:12am
116 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:16:26am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Srsly Ben is this your best shot?

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I guess Ben has a problem with a man who actually was a Freedom Rider. Sanders is actually principled which is more than you can say about any of the Republicans running.

117 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:17:01am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS man.

118 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 11:17:56am
119 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 11:18:56am

re: #103 WhatEVs

They can’t bring up Replace because they would replace it with Obamacare (calling it RepublicanCare). They have no ideas. Not in a generation.

It’s going to be called GrandOldDoNotCare and depend heavily on traditional medicine.

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:19:25am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I guess Ben has a problem with a man who actually was a Freedom Rider. Sanders is actually principled which is more than you can say about any of the Republicans running.

Today’s outrage is that Sanders is racist:

121 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 11:19:52am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

Neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement followers distribute fliers near Florida synagogue

People who couldn’t make the IQ cutoff for the Klan.

122 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:20:39am

What’s amusing to me regarding the hatred of the present pope by the wingnuts is that popes have been criticizing income equality and capitialistic excesses for years now. Hell I think they were before the Russian revolution even. Point though is Francis is A) I think actually sincere with his criticism as he lives a pretty austere lifestyle and B) he finds poverty and inequality much more offensive than gay people and abortion.

123 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:21:37am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

From that article. I couldn’t resist.

124 ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2015 11:22:14am

Seeing Trump is another GOP ACA replacer…did anyone see Chris Hayes last night and the goofy former Senator and Governor Judd Gregg.

All I can say is, the former politician was just a little creepy in the way he slung the usual GOP talking points.

Hayes cut him off early knowing it was going to go nowhere fast.

Video up at Crooks and Liars: Watch: Chris Hayes Beats Down Ex-Senator’s ACA Lies With Facts

I don’t get how anyone can think that approach is a winning one.

Oh yeah…behind on thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned.

125 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:22:49am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Today’s outrage is that Sanders is racist:

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Oh for fuck sake. It’s pretty clear that Bernie is saying that Democrats should be trying to get back the white working class vote and they should be. This isn’t Howard Dean saying he wants to be the candidate of guys with Confederate flag bumper stickers. This is Bernie Sanders saying the Democrats need to reclaim a voting bloc that once was a strong part of their base.

126 suse  Jun 16, 2015 11:22:58am

re: #87 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This Freeper watches a lot of TV or Internets a lot.

Trump/Ernst!

127 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:12am

Ironic because they don’t want people named Jesus to live in their lily white town.

128 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:13am

re: #119 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s going to be called GrandOldDoNotCare and depend heavily on traditional medicine.

Probably more likely:

Do you make more than X? You get healthcare

Do you make less than X? You get a bag of aspirin.

129 Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:14am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For property in development, he has $300+ million in assets but only $7 million in liabilities? What horseshit. That would mean that property, property under development, would have retained earnings or investments of 293 million.

130 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:16am

re: #123 WhatEVs

From that article. I couldn’t resist.

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lol I like pot too Nolte but I don’t say it in riddles.

131 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:49am

re: #128 WhatEVs

Probably more likely:

Do you make more than X? You get healthcare

Do you make less than X? You get a bag of aspirin.

Is that for treatment or for holding between our knees?

132 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:24:17am

Me thinks that running for office must be a profitable enterprise. I can think of no other reason so many are doing it.

Somehow, they are profiting.

133 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:24:29am

re: #127 Kragar

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Ironic because they don’t want people named Jesus to live in their lily white town.

No, that’s Jesús. They’re really stingy about the accent. Just teasing heh.

134 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:24:45am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Oh for fuck sake. It’s pretty clear that Bernie is saying that Democrats should be trying to get back the white working class vote and they should be. This isn’t Howard Dean saying he wants to be the candidate of guys with Confederate flag bumper stickers. This is Bernie Sanders saying the Democrats need to reclaim a voting bloc that once was a strong part of their base.

It’s like that other fake outrage about Bernie riffing on some 1970’s rapey porno.

135 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:24am
136 Kruggerrand Paul  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:28am

re: #131 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yes.

137 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:30am

re: #132 FemNaziBitch

Me thinks that running for office must be a profitable enterprise. I can think of no other reason so many are doing it.

Somehow, the are profiting.

It’s usually a guaranteed book deal by a book that you probably didn’t actually write. Lots of good meals and you’re able to get away from your spouse.

138 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:41am

re: #127 Kragar

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Ironic because they don’t want people named Jesus to live in their lily white town.

Hay-Zues, oh my!

They also think Jesus was a lily-white dude.

139 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:41am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Oh for fuck sake. It’s pretty clear that Bernie is saying that Democrats should be trying to get back the white working class vote and they should be. This isn’t Howard Dean saying he wants to be the candidate of guys with Confederate flag bumper stickers. This is Bernie Sanders saying the Democrats need to reclaim a voting bloc that once was a strong part of their base.

You’d have to be a pretty special kind of person to interpret his statement as racism. Now, you could in fact criticize him a little bit for downplaying the continuing role and impact of race in America, and its relevance to people’s voting choices as a consequence. But racism? That’s a stretch.

140 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:25:43am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

It’s like that other fake outrage about Bernie riffing on some 1970’s rapey porno.

Yeah fucking stupid.

141 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:26:39am

re: #139 iossarian

You’d have to be a pretty special kind of person to interpret his statement as racism. Now, you could in fact criticize him a little bit for downplaying the continuing role and impact of race in America, and its relevance to people’s voting choices as a consequence. But racism? That’s a stretch.

Right. Absolutely. It just ain’t racist nor suggesting that the Democrats go after teh votes of racists unless you really believe that all white working class people are racist.

142 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 11:27:06am

re: #131 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is that for treatment or for holding between our knees?

Why both, of course. See! Republican’s DO believe in birth control! Just ask the old, rich white dude Foster Fries. He’s all over aspirin as birth control!

143 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:27:22am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

It’s usually a guaranteed book deal by a book that you probably didn’t actually write. Lots of good meals and you’re able to get away from your spouse.

Yeah, lots of people treat you like you are popular and will be chosen homecoming royalty.

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:27:23am

re: #128 WhatEVs

Probably more likely:

Do you make more than X? You get healthcare

Do you make less than X? You get a bag of aspirin.

Bonus is that aspirin doubles as birth control!!!

//

145 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:28:12am

re: #143 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, lots of people treat you like you are popular and will be chosen homecoming royalty.

A narcissist’s wet dream.

146 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 11:28:46am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

It’s usually a guaranteed book deal by a book that you probably didn’t actually write. Lots of good meals and you’re able to get away from your spouse.

And maybe a 6-pack of Koch moneybags in a brown paper sack.

147 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 11:28:55am

re: #138 WhatEVs

Hay-Zues, oh my!

They also think Jesus was a lily-white dude.

“If you think water into wine was a miracle, wait 2000 years and I’ll be a white guy!”

148 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:29:58am
149 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 11:30:13am

re: #147 Kragar

“If you think water into wine was miracle, wait 2000 years and I’ll be a white guy Republican!”

I put some extra humor in.

150 ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2015 11:30:27am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Damn i did forget someone.

And after all the times I mentioned him as a candidate to watch!!!

By the way, local news has reported he might use the July 4th weekend for his announcement. We shall see.

Columbus has a huge July 4th celebration downtown along the river front. It’s called Red, White & Boom! and it draws upwards of 300,000 or more locals. It would not surprise me to see him glom onto the event and use it as a backdrop like everyone is there to see him off on his journey in the clown bus.

151 suse  Jun 16, 2015 11:31:03am

re: #97 #FergusonFireside

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Wow, great to see him getting some MSM attention and maybe a chance to educate. Comments suck of course.

152 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:31:18am

re: #150 ObserverArt

And after all the times I mentioned him as a candidate to watch!!!

By the way, local news has reported he might use the July 4th weekend for his announcement. We shall see.

Columbus has a huge July 4th celebration downtown along the river front. It’s called Red, White & Boom! and it draws upwards of 300,000 or more locals. It would not surprise me to see him glom onto the event and use it as a backdrop like everyone is there to see him off on his journey in the clown bus.

I know. You have to excuse me heh since there’s so many guys running. It truly is the Clown 747.

153 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:32:31am

Well, quite a few people have jobs until November 2016.

Elections are an industry. Lot’s of people making money …

154 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 11:32:45am

re: #132 FemNaziBitch

Me thinks that running for office must be a profitable enterprise. I can think of no other reason so many are doing it.

Somehow, they are profiting.

With this many in the race, there is no downside to losing. It’s all contributions and PR gravy.

155 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:33:28am

re: #153 FemNaziBitch

Well, quite a few people have jobs until November 2016.

Elections are an industry. Lot’s of people making money …

Until their candidate loses, then the credit cards get cut off before the concession speech.

156 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 11:34:03am

re: #151 suse

Wow, great to see him getting some MSM attention and maybe a chance to educate. Comments suck of course.

Didn’t go there. I can imagine.

157 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:34:06am

re: #154 jaunte

With this many in the race, there is no downside to losing. It’s all contributions and PR gravy.

Losing may be even better for some of them. Means they can bitch and bitch but not actually be held accountable which I think is why Ron Paul retired, Bachmann resigned, and why you haven’t seen Palin seek office.

158 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:34:27am

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

Until their candidate loses, then the credit cards get cut off before the concession speech.

Oh that Mitt, such an everyman.

159 suse  Jun 16, 2015 11:34:39am

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Seriously, how does that even make sense?

160 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:35:06am
zooborns.com
161 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:35:31am

re: #159 suse

Seriously, how does that even make sense?

Everything makes sense when you drink the shit that Donald does.

162 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:36:42am
163 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:37:12am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Everything makes sense when you drink the shit that Donald does.

164 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:37:14am

re: #162 wrenchwench

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the shittiest cup of coffee that can be made.

165 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:37:58am

re: #164 FemNaziBitch

the shittiest cup of coffee that can be made.

I shall wonder no more.

166 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:39:09am

LEAVE DONALD ALONE!!!!!!

167 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:39:12am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah it begins with that and then he opens his mouth.

168 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 11:39:37am
169 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:39:51am

re: #166 The Vicious Babushka

LEAVE DONALD ALONE!!!!!!

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You’re right. Let’s talk about his failures. He’s declared bankruptcy multiple times.

170 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:40:32am

Ben Carson speaking at University of Nevada right now:

good grief.

171 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:41:52am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Carson speaking at University of Nevada right now:

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good grief.

Can you imagine if Obama talked about doing that with a nostalgic tone?

172 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:42:05am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Carson speaking at University of Nevada right now:

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good grief.

He gave no fucks then and he gives no fucks now. Just pay the speaking fee, thank you.

173 Amory Blaine  Jun 16, 2015 11:42:18am

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

Norquist could build the perfect Frankenstein wingnut monster.

174 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 11:43:22am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Srsly Ben is this your best shot?

Ben sounds a little worried about Bernie.

175 Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2015 11:43:24am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Carson speaking at University of Nevada right now:

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good grief.

Wait…so he’s acknowledging that police shoot black teens/men for bullshit?

I think his poll numbers just went to 0%.

176 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2015 11:43:44am

re: #127 Kragar

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Ironic because they don’t want people named Jesus to live in their lily white town.

“I say come and take it, baby,” one man says. “Draw the line.” Later he adds he doesn’t like “Northern aggression.”

Another woman voiced fear that taking the sign down would result in a snowball of secularism.

“Rest assured, it will not stop with one sign,” she says. “When is the day coming when they’re gonna take it from our own private property?”

And there you have it.

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:44:03am
178 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:45:18am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

And there you have it.

“Northern aggression.” I swear some people need to get the fuck over it. It was 150 years ago and you lost. And “our own private property” uh no, it’s not private property.

179 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:45:50am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bragging about how much money you’re worth. Nice Donald considering that you’re a trustfund brat.

180 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:46:10am
181 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 11:47:18am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

And there you have it.

I’m going to raise Sherman from the dead just so he can lay siege to that town.

182 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 11:48:32am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I know. You have to excuse me heh since there’s so many guys running. It truly is the Clown 747.

To quote a friend on Facebook: ‘The Clown Car has turned into a Clown Fluorescent Orange stretch Humvee with foghorns on top.’

183 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:48:41am

re: #181 Kragar

I’m going to raise Sherman from the dead just so he can lay siege to that town.

Raise General Sheridan while you’re at it. He’s going to need some help.

184 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:48:55am

re: #182 makeitstop

To quote a friend on Facebook: ‘The Clown Car has turned into a Clown Fluorescent Orange stretch Humvee with foghorns on top.’

Brilliant.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 11:49:18am
186 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jun 16, 2015 11:49:53am

theonion.com

Wife: Unsatisfied
Net Worth: 3-4 presidential elections
Claim To Fame: First to refer to ISIS as “bozos”
Role: Billionaire who will have smallest impact on presidential race
Campaign Promise: Will turn America into an opulent destination for only the most exclusive citizens
Campaign Slogan: “I’m Going To Do This Every Four Years Until I Die”
Credentials: Proven job creator for desperate people who will do anything to be famous
Potential Liability: American people may not yet be progressive enough to elect mentally ill man
Vision For Presidency: 50 Miss USA finalists lined up along White House portico
Are We Just Enabling Him: Yes

187 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:50:43am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I guess Professor Halperin uses an ironically enough very liberal grading curve.

188 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:51:22am

re: #186 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

theonion.com

Wife: Unsatisfied
Net Worth: 3-4 presidential elections
Claim To Fame: First to refer to ISIS as “bozos”
Role: Billionaire who will have smallest impact on presidential race
Campaign Promise: Will turn America into an opulent destination for only the most exclusive citizens
Campaign Slogan: “I’m Going To Do This Every Four Years Until I Die”
Credentials: Proven job creator for desperate people who will do anything to be famous
Potential Liability: American people may not yet be progressive enough to elect mentally ill man
Vision For Presidency: 50 Miss USA finalists lined up along White House portico
Are We Just Enabling Him: Yes

I love these.

189 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 11:51:27am

Hat tip to Gus:

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 11:51:31am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

I guess Professor Halperin uses an ironically enough very liberal grading curve.

Or he is a great fan of rambling word salad as a way of losing intellectual weight.

191 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:53:29am

I looked all over and couldn’t find this yesterday:

192 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:54:25am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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193 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 11:55:16am
194 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:55:22am

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves and sometimes they run for president.

195 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:56:16am

Stupidest Man On The Internets Doing The Stupids==>

196 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:56:55am

re: #193 Kragar

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Yeah because artificial fats that cause coronary problems are so much better than people being the gender they’re comfortable being. Really Caitlyn Jenner, I really hope you reconsider being a Republican because this is how many of your fellow Republicans view your identity. Man Republicans are fucking stupid.

198 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 11:57:28am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves and sometimes they run for president.

I laughed.

Let’s see if I laugh in November.

199 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:57:49am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Stupidest Man On The Internets Doing The Stupids==>

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someone who voted lost their shit with a crockpot.

I heard voters can do that sometimes… .

/

200 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 11:58:02am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Stupidest Man On The Internets Doing The Stupids==>

That’s just all of us Obama supporters—just killing everybody who disagrees with us.

////

201 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:58:20am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves and sometimes they run for president.

so freaking stealing that

202 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:58:23am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Stupidest Man On The Internets Doing The Stupids==>

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Because no one whoever supported Romney or McCain ever got convicted of murder ever. Really go fuck yourself DimJim for making this murder about Obama you sick piece of shit.

203 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 11:58:48am
204 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:59:11am

re: #201 FemNaziBitch

so freaking stealing that

Be my guest. I do have to beat my chest on that one though, it was a goodie.

205 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 11:59:36am

re: #201 FemNaziBitch

so freaking stealing that

So freaking tweeting that.

206 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 11:59:50am

re: #198 wrenchwench

I laughed.

Let’s see if I laugh in November.

Hopefully. Hopefully I can laugh in November too. We got local elections this year.

207 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 12:01:11pm

Do we really have to endure this cockery for another 18 months?

208 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:01:54pm

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

So freaking tweeting that.

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beatya!!

209 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:02:25pm

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

So freaking tweeting that.

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Nice. But yeah what I was thinking was this is like something out of a surreal satire. The most credible candidate is Jeb ffs.

210 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:02:58pm

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

beatya!!

Did you remember to hashtag his hairyness, his majesty, his Trumpness.

211 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:03:06pm

re: #207 iossarian

Do we really have to endure this cockery for another 18 months?

I thought that said ‘crockery’ for a sec.

212 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:03:42pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Did you remember to hashtag his hairyness, his majesty, his Trumpness.

Nah, just let it link to LGF.

213 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 12:04:28pm
214 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:04:33pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Nice. But yeah what I was thinking was this is like something out of a surreal satire. The most credible candidate is Jeb ffs.

Jeb!

who the hell approved that graphic?

It reminds me of the Bob Newhart drinking game and Norm! from Cheers.

215 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 12:04:52pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

I thought that said ‘crockery’ for a sec.

Could have been. As in, “crock-of-shittery”.

Crockery of shit.

Shoot me now.

216 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 12:05:23pm

I just read about half of the speech transcript.

The dude is a mental patient with money.

217 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 16, 2015 12:05:38pm

Trump is a ratings winner for Fox. I, and many liberals/progressives, will watch a debate with Trump in it. Don’t judge. This is no different than driving down the highway and looking at the wrecks on the side of the road. There may be as many Democrats watching as Republicans.

218 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 12:05:54pm

¡pmurT!

219 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 12:05:54pm

re: #214 FemNaziBitch

Jeb!

who the hell approved that graphic?

It reminds me of the Bob Newhart drinking game and Norm! from Cheers.

Nice that if you google images for “Jeb”, Minecraft Jeb comes up first.

220 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 12:06:15pm
221 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:06:36pm

re: #215 iossarian

Could have been. As in, “crock-of-shittery”.

Crockery of shit.

Shoot me now.

Yeah, I was avoiding the ‘18 months’ part.

222 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 12:06:44pm

re: #217 Iwouldprefernotto

¡Trumpwreck!

223 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:07:36pm

re: #220 #FergusonFireside

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Yeah, you tell em Dave!

224 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 12:07:53pm
225 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:08:03pm

re: #215 iossarian

Could have been. As in, “crock-of-shittery”.

Crockery of shit.

Shoot me now.

Wrong week to stop … .

pick anything

226 ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2015 12:08:08pm

Can The Donald’s® ego take anyone challenging him in a debate?

By the way, is he allowed to use his last name in his campaign? I thought he sort of sold it in one of his bankruptcy settlements.

227 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:08:17pm

re: #214 FemNaziBitch

Jeb!

who the hell approved that graphic?

It reminds me of the Bob Newhart drinking game and Norm! from Cheers.

It’s very pedestrian yes. i think it’s showing a lot that he hasn’t run for an office in over a decade.

228 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:08:18pm

re: #216 makeitstop

I just read about half of the speech transcript.

The dude is a mental patient with money.

I think you mean “eccentric.”

229 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 12:09:12pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

Yeah, I was avoiding the ‘18 months’ part.

It’s so stupid.

“Rubio Unveils Cash-For-Grandparents Policy in Concord”

“Voters Divided on Cruz Healthcare-Via-Chicken-Trading Plan”

“Jeb Eats a Cheeseburger in Iowa”

etc.

230 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:09:14pm

Remember the days when Pat Robertson was the only really crazy Republican running for president.

231 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 12:09:27pm
232 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:09:53pm

I go see Jurassic World and come home to find that a living dinosaur announced his candidacy for the GOP nomination.

Can this day get any better?

233 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:09:56pm

re: #231 #FergusonFireside

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And this is why socialism looks a little more credible everyday.

234 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:10:02pm

re: #213 jaunte

As we all mock Donald Trump, let’s not forget the key fact that he is a serious player in the GOP. That says something about the GOP, no?

We’ve lost the House and the Senate to the GOP. That says something about the Democrats, no?

235 bratwurst  Jun 16, 2015 12:10:19pm

These

People

Are

INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

236 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:11:09pm

re: #235 bratwurst

These

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INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These guys really need to get help especially Glenn and Alex.

237 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:11:30pm

re: #235 bratwurst

These

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INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex Jones, Yeah, I think you’d better get used to the idea.

238 iossarian  Jun 16, 2015 12:11:51pm

re: #234 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We’ve lost the House and the Senate to the GOP. That says something about the Democrats, no?

I think it says that there’s massive gerrymandering and an abundance of bugfuck stupid voters in America.

239 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 12:11:53pm

re: #235 bratwurst

These

People

Are

INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They’ll be proven right once the corrected results from Ohio come in.

240 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:11:59pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

And this is why socialism looks a little more credible everyday.

ROTFLMAO

241 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 12:12:11pm

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242 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 12:12:15pm

re: #234 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We’ve lost the House and the Senate to the GOP. That says something about the Democrats, no?

It also says something about US voters that blatant stupidity and malice are winning policy positions in many parts of the US.

243 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:12:16pm

I think Glenn Beck wants to be put in an internment camp so badly. Hey Glenn, you could always move to North Korea. I hear they got some fine internment camps there.//

244 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:12:28pm

Are: #236 HappyWarrior

These guys really need to get help especially Glenn and Alex.

I prescribe 4 years of Hillary.

245 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 12:12:59pm

re: #235 bratwurst

If Trump had been elected president in 2008, America would be in much better shape today. Fact.
— John Nolte (@NolteNC) June 16, 2015

LOL, huh, whut?

246 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 12:13:01pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

Another reference to yesterday:

Now Decatur Deb comes in and posts:

A

I prescribe 4 years of Hillary.

It’s a serious infection. 8 will probably be necessary.

247 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:13:21pm

re: #240 FemNaziBitch

ROTFLMAO

I am not joking. Seriously everything with a fucking reality show. Agh it already bothered me that the cast of Jersey Shore was making more than your average doctor, teacher, or military member.

248 suse  Jun 16, 2015 12:13:36pm

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

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Trump/Palin/Saladspinner 2016!!

249 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:13:43pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

A

I prescribe 4 years of Hillary.

Why not make it 8 of Hillary and 8 of Julian?

250 bratwurst  Jun 16, 2015 12:14:48pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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I like it…but I have the same question as I did when you rolled out the mobile version: where is the top/bottom ten list?

251 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:15:28pm

re: #245 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

LOL, huh, whut?

It’s pretty much a Mad Libs bit for wingnuts. “If (Insert Conservative) had been elected in 2008, we’d be in much better shape!”

You know, if you ignore that the last conservative in office fucked this country over a bramble patch.

252 ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2015 12:15:33pm

re: #234 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We’ve lost the House and the Senate to the GOP. That says something about the Democrats, no?

Good point. It really says something about the state of political awareness in America and how the average American figures into it all.

And it says a lot about what happens when history and civics is downplayed in our education system and we have a hands-off media.

253 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 12:15:56pm

re: #250 bratwurst

I like it…but I have the same question as I did when you rolled out the mobile version: where is the top/bottom ten list?

I’m getting around to that. It’s going to be relocated to the “Menu” in the top right login panel.

254 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:15:59pm

Deb’s line: Appropriators.

255 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:16:19pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Why not make it 8 of Hillary and 8 of Julian?

Just to be safe…

256 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:17:34pm

re: #251 Targetpractice

It’s pretty much a Mad Libs bit for wingnuts. “If (Insert Conservative) had been elected in 2008, we’d be in much better shape!”

You know, if you ignore that the last conservative in office fucked this country over a bramble patch.

They’ve convinced themselves that he wasn’t a real conservative. And when you bring up Reagan’s failings, they blame Tip O’Neill. They can’t face the facts that modern conservatism is a failure on a national level.

257 Snarknado!  Jun 16, 2015 12:17:43pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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Looking good… wait a minute…

WHERE’S FRANK?!

<waaaah!>

258 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:17:44pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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NICE. Really nice.

No more dead thread, methinks.

259 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:17:54pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

Just to be safe…

Yeah you’re right, we don’t want to give the patients too much.

260 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 12:17:56pm
261 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:18:35pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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Excellent work as always.

262 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:19:08pm

If only Michael Moore had been elected president in 2000.//

263 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:19:11pm

Considering Trump’s track record, his solution to the Great Recession would have been to declare bankruptcy and then bail on us.

264 gwangung  Jun 16, 2015 12:19:23pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

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Somebody got loose from the Bizarro Universe.

265 piratedan  Jun 16, 2015 12:19:23pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

Speaking as one of the unspoken, I could live with that format, oh fearless leader…

266 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 12:19:36pm

Testing something.

267 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:20:07pm

re: #263 Targetpractice

Considering Trump’s track record, his solution to the Great Recession would have been to declare bankruptcy and then bail on us.

and marry a younger, hotter country.

268 piratedan  Jun 16, 2015 12:20:10pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

and if monkeys could fly out of his ass, they’d be covered in shit…… FACT!

269 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:20:21pm

re: #263 Targetpractice

Considering Trump’s track record, his solution to the Great Recession would have been to declare bankruptcy and then bail on us.

Oh god, I’m not stealing another - TWEET THAT!

270 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:20:47pm

You know, I’m okay with the fact that Ms. Dolezal chooses to identify as black but other parts of her behavior and actions aren’t acceptable.

271 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 12:21:01pm

Say what you want about Donald, he hasn’t been photobombed by Josh Duggar.

272 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 12:21:10pm

re: #251 Targetpractice

It’s pretty much a Mad Libs bit for wingnuts. “If (Insert Conservative) had been elected in 2008, we’d be in much better shape!”

You know, if you ignore that the last conservative in office fucked this country over a bramble patch.

And said conservative is not considered anywhere near conservative enough by the current collection and their followers.

273 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:21:49pm

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

Say what you want about Donald, he hasn’t been photobombed by Josh Duggar.

Likely lack of availability more than lack of desire.

274 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:21:50pm

re: #272 Feline Fearless Leader

And said conservative is not considered anywhere near conservative enough by the current collection and their followers.

We’re talking about an electorate that finds a guy (Huntsman) who wants to abolish the EPA too liberal.

275 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:22:11pm

re: #269 FemNaziBitch

Oh god, I’m not stealing another - TWEET THAT!

You’ll have to steal it, as I don’t tweet.

276 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:22:18pm

re: #250 bratwurst

I like it…but I have the same question as I did when you rolled out the mobile version: where is the top/bottom ten list?

There is a mobile version?

277 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:22:46pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

Very nice! Did you incorporate the Pearls of Wisdom plugin so that my comments will all be transformed into something witty and clever?

278 lawhawk  Jun 16, 2015 12:22:53pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

The guy is a derp fest of anti-science pablum, anti-vax nonsense, and conspiracy mongering bs.

Yet, that all barely registers above the GOP levels of anti-science nonsense spewed by both candidates already declared and their base.

279 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 12:23:26pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

You know, I’m okay with the fact that Ms. Dolezal chooses to identify as black but other parts of her behavior and actions aren’t acceptable.

Trying to figure out which impacts the country and my life least, Caitlyn Jenner’s preference for pronouns or Dolezal’s choice of hair products.

280 Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2015 12:23:33pm

From now on he shall be know as Comrade Trump!

281 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:23:42pm

You can be sure that Trump will pull a Romney and keep as much of his financial record secret as possible. Sure, he’s declared his assets and such, but don’t expect to see more than one or two years worth of tax records. Last thing he wants is people to get an idea of just how badly he’s fucked over investors in the past.

282 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:23:45pm

re: #278 lawhawk

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The guy is a derp fest of anti-science pablum, anti-vax nonsense, and conspiracy mongering bs.

Yet, that all barely registers above the GOP levels of anti-science nonsense spewed by both candidates already declared and their base.

At least he’s going for both sides of the aisle. //

283 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 16, 2015 12:23:53pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Raise General Sheridan while you’re at it. He’s going to need some help.

Is he buried at Grant’s tomb?

284 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:24:01pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Trying to figure out which impacts the country and my life least, Caitlyn Jenner’s preference for pronouns or Dolezal’s choice of hair products.

My choice of whiskey. Irish or bust.

285 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:24:51pm

re: #280 Ace-o-aces

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From now on he shall be know as Comrade Trump!

Is he saying China’s leaders deflate documents?

286 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:25:15pm

re: #281 Targetpractice

You can be sure that Trump will pull a Romney and keep as much of his financial record secret as possible. Sure, he’s declared his assets and such, but don’t expect to see more than one or two years worth of tax records. Last thing he wants is people to get an idea of just how badly he’s fucked over investors in the past.

I will kiss your bare ass in downtown Manhattan at noon on the day of your choosing if Trump releases ANY tax records.

287 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:25:37pm

re: #275 Targetpractice

You’ll have to steal it, as I don’t tweet.

288 Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2015 12:26:38pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Conservatives unclear on meaning of work “fact”.

289 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 12:26:48pm

re: #280 Ace-o-aces

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From now on he shall be know as Comrade Trump!

Stole that

290 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 12:27:03pm

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

I think you mean “eccentric.”

You’re on a roll today, lady! :)

291 Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2015 12:27:30pm
292 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:27:49pm

I didn’t think it was possible but this clown mobile is even more clownish than the 2012 model.

293 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 12:28:58pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Fins and flippers.

294 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:29:02pm

Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, and Donald Trump.

But remember, folks, Bernie Sanders is “crazy.”

295 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:29:04pm

re: #291 Charles Johnson

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I think he’s been huffing paint again. What the fuck is he babbling on about? Smear all GOP with? Uh John, your party was happy to go with the birther shit for years. Don’t cry about the Democrats and media calling your pathetic shitty party out on it when you guys did it.

296 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:29:41pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, and Donald Trump.

But remember, folks, Bernie Sanders is “crazy.”

Yeah agh.

297 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 12:29:46pm

Yes it has a digestive system. Its anus is in the middle of Donald’s face right below his nose.

298 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 12:30:07pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I think he’s been huffing paint again. What the fuck is he babbling on about? Smear all GOP with? Uh John, your party was happy to go with the birther shit for years. Don’t cry about the Democrats and media calling your pathetic shitty party out on it when you guys did it.

I’m surprised he didn’t immediately hit the standard wingnut ejection button on birtherism, aka “HILLARY STARTED IT!”

299 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:30:44pm

re: #290 makeitstop

You’re on a roll today, lady! :)

I think it was the baby orangutans.

300 FemNaziBitch  Jun 16, 2015 12:31:13pm

bbl

301 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:31:20pm

re: #298 Targetpractice

I’m surprised he didn’t immediately hit the standard wingnut ejection button on birtherism, aka “HILLARY STARTED IT!”

Give him time. Day is young.

302 piratedan  Jun 16, 2015 12:31:23pm

Nolte must be off his meds

303 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:33:07pm

I do like how Nolte thanks Trump for “ending” birtherism when Trump is still a birther. It’s like thanking a 9/11 truther who is still a 9/11 truther.

304 Mike Lamb  Jun 16, 2015 12:33:30pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Srsly Ben is this your best shot?

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Your political god was a B-list actor…

305 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 12:33:45pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I didn’t think it was possible but this clown mobile is even more clownish than the 2012 model.

Assuming the GOP loses in 2016, the 2020 clown car will be much worse than this.

Meanwhile, we can play the interesting game of what state(s) did Romney win in 2012 that could plausibly be lost by Trump in 2016, if he were the GOP nominee.

I think NC is about it.

306 Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2015 12:34:34pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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I like it!

307 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:35:54pm

re: #305 EPR-radar

Assuming the GOP loses in 2016, the 2020 clown car will be much worse than this.

Meanwhile, we can play the interesting game of what state(s) did Romney win in 2012 that could plausibly be lost by Trump in 2016, if he were the GOP nominee.

I think NC is about it.

Yeah maybe NC. Can’t see anything else changing. The good news is I can’t see him gaining anything that Romney lost.

308 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:36:22pm

re: #304 Mike Lamb

Your political god was a B-list actor…

who thought he liberated a concentration camp…………

309 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:36:36pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I didn’t think it was possible but this clown mobile is even more clownish than the 2012 model.

Having transformed itself into the imagined party, the GoP’s aspiring nominees need no longer have a record of accomplishment or even be coherent. That opens the gates pretty damned wide.

310 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 12:36:49pm

What’s this Trump announced

I’m just about ready for the debates just waiting for my human to get back with my popcorn.

311 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:38:12pm

re: #309 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Having transformed itself into the imagined party, the GoP’s aspiring nominees need no longer have a record of accomplishment or even be coherent. That opens the gates pretty damned wide.

Imagined party of imagined threats and imagined enemies and imagined policies with imagined outcomes. The same imagined policies they’ve been espousing for decades. They don’t even have any new imagined policies.

312 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:40:20pm

re: #298 Targetpractice

I’m surprised he didn’t immediately hit the standard wingnut ejection button on birtherism, aka “HILLARY STARTED IT!”

I’m so old that I still regard “Look what you made us do!” with the same intense dislike that I shower on “Mistakes were made.” Likely for the same reasons.

313 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 12:40:38pm

In other news, there’s this:

A Gay Couple Bought JebBushForPresident.com in 2008 and They’re Not Giving it Back

Charlie Rainwater and C.J. Phillips, a couple of “high tech bears” from Oregon, have been sitting on the jebbushforpresident.com domain since 2008. At the time, Rainwater and Phillips were disillusioned by LGBTQ rights in America, and decided to blog about it on their very own site. jebbushforpresident.com seemed like a great place to do it.

314 The Mountain That Blogs  Jun 16, 2015 12:40:43pm

re: #305 EPR-radar

Well, there’s the most depressing thought of the day.

315 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:41:10pm

re: #311 WhatEVs

Imagined party of imagined threats and imagined enemies and imagined policies with imagined outcomes. The same imagined policies they’ve been espousing for decades. They don’t even have any new imagined policies.

What I found amusing was Ted Cruz’s response when he was asked how he’d win the WH. He basically said Reagan Democrats and that just amused me because the absolute youngest Reagan Democrat and I apologize to you Gen Xers but that absolute youngest Reagan Democrat turns 50 next year. Ted himself was never old enough to vote for Reagan. Hell he just barely made the cut to vote for H.W Bush. These guys just think they can talk about Reagan and that’s the ticket to win. And it just isn’t. I am not a fan at all of REagan historically but Reagan wasn’t nearly as cynical as these guys are.

316 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:41:31pm

Dim Jim is bad at time. Also, “political foe?”

317 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:41:37pm

re: #313 makeitstop

In other news, there’s this:

A Gay Couple Bought JebBushForPresident.com in 2008 and They’re Not Giving it Back

This is brilliant. Get those two gentlemen a drink of their choosing.

318 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:42:11pm

re: #316 Kid A

Dim Jim is bad at time.

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Obama supporters using their Obama time machines to attack people in the future.

319 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 12:42:43pm

re: #314 The Mountain That Blogs

Well, there’s the most depressing thought of the day.

No, the most depressing thought of the day would be to consider which Obama states in 2012 could possibly be won by Trump in 2016.

320 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:43:12pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Obama supporters using their Obama time machines to attack people in the future.

Do they program their Obama time machines with Obamaphones Reaganphones?

321 Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2015 12:44:20pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Had to wipe the sputum off my monitor when I saw that.

Can’t help it. Those jackholes deserve to be spat upon.

322 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 12:46:15pm

re: #316 Kid A

Dim Jim is bad at time. Also, “political foe?”

LEAVE DIM JIM ALOOOOOOONE!!!!1

323 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:47:55pm

re: #319 EPR-radar

No, the most depressing thought of the day would be to consider which Obama states in 2012 could possibly be won by Trump in 2016.

I don’t think any but the American electorate did re-elect Bush.

324 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:47:57pm
325 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:48:06pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

You comment dovetails nicely with our exchange regarding the GoP’s Large Hadron Clown Car. Another reason that their field is so crowded is that if you can put together a noun, a verb, and “Ronald Reagan,” you’ll be on Fox News so quick your head will spin. If you can do that and repeat the words, “Tax cuts,” twice in the same sentence then you’re ready open an exploratory committee.

326 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 12:48:12pm

re: #324 Kid A

skewed.

/

327 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:48:54pm

re: #324 Kid A

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Would love to see his response to this but I doubt you’ll get a response because he’s a hack.

328 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 12:49:08pm

Proof that I have a nerdy job. My co-workers AND my boss have been snickering about this today:

And yes, before you ask, it’s snark.

329 The Mountain That Blogs  Jun 16, 2015 12:49:15pm

re: #319 EPR-radar

No, the most depressing thought of the day would be to consider which Obama states in 2012 could possibly be won by Trump in 2016.

Nevada has a lot of crazy people, but none really come to mind.

330 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:49:28pm

re: #325 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You comment dovetails nicely with our exchange regarding the GoP’s Large Hadron Clown Car. Another reason that their field is so crowded is that if you can put together a noun, a verb, and “Ronald Reagan,” you’ll be on Fox News so quick your head will spin. If you can do that and repeat the words, “Tax cuts,” twice in the same sentence then you’re ready open an exploratory committee.

So you’re saying I should run in 2024.

331 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:50:26pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Would love to see his response to this but I doubt you’ll get a response because he’s a hack.

Hoft also knows that if he directly engages most anyone on the left he’ll wind up looking for a shrubbery.

332 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 12:50:27pm

re: #325 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You comment dovetails nicely with our exchange regarding the GoP’s Large Hadron Clown Car. Another reason that their field is so crowded is that if you can put together a noun, a verb, and “Ronald Reagan,” you’ll be on Fox News so quick your head will spin. If you can do that and repeat the words, “Tax cuts,” twice in the same sentence then you’re ready open an exploratory committee.

They need a large collection of stand-up philosopher rods in close proximity in order to generate a self-sustaining derp generating chain reaction.

333 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 12:50:34pm

re: #325 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If you close your eyes and say “Tax Cuts” three times in a row, don’t you wake up in Kansas…or something? :-)

334 kg7u  Jun 16, 2015 12:51:08pm

I muted the sound when he said “…sweating like dogs…” I am not a dog person, and even I know that they don’t sweat. It’s like when a writer writes “begs the question”. Bleah.

335 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:51:11pm

re: #331 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hoft also knows that if he directly engages most anyone on the left he’ll wind up looking for a shrubbery.

Yeah I’ve never seen him respond when he’s been called out for being full of shit.

336 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 12:51:42pm

bwahahahaaa!

Former House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) tried to crash former Hillary Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal’s deposition before the House Select Committee on Benghazi on Tuesday.

Issa marched into the closed-door deposition and remained inside for about a minute before he was escorted out by the panel’s chairman, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.).

The pair briefly exchanged hushed words in a nearby hallway before Issa stormed off, throwing an empty soda can into a nearby trash bin.

337 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:52:04pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’ve never seen him respond when he’s been called out for being full of shit.

When?

338 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:52:39pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!

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Was Mother Issa on hand to discipline her son for having a temper tantrum in public?

339 Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2015 12:52:47pm

To all the Republicans who didn’t run in 2012: If Obama is such a disaster, why didn’t you have the fortitude to run against him and save America?

340 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:53:06pm

re: #337 Kid A

When?

I think Charles has called Jim out on his bullshit on Twitter.

341 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:53:56pm

re: #339 Timothy Watson

To all the Republicans who didn’t run in 2012: If Obama is such a disaster, why didn’t you have the fortitude to run against him and save America?

If Obama’s such a disaster, please explain why X, Y, and Z have improved dramatically while he’s been president.

342 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 12:54:02pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!

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He didn’t recycle!

343 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 12:54:03pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!

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So Rep. Badhair had words with Rep. Unconvicted Arsonist?

Derp-fight! Derp-fight!!!

Heh.

344 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:54:16pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

I think Charles has called Jim out on his bullshit on Twitter.

No, I meant when you said that “when he’s been called out for being full of shit.” Dim is always full of shit. Lol

345 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 12:54:27pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

346 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:54:44pm

re: #344 Kid A

No, I meant when you said that “when he’s been called out for being full of shit.” Dim is always full of shit. Lol

Ah ha, sorry. Yeah. I should have said when he’s called out for being the dishonest hack job he is.

347 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 12:55:41pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!

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Gowdy whispered to Issa, “Get a decent fucking haircut!”

348 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:56:24pm

re: #345 Kid A

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Again sometimes the jokes run for president. Trump an unapologetic capitalist. Yeah that’s why he’s had to be bailed out by the government so many times and Trump is a much more bitter person than Obama or the actual socialist running Sanders is. You have to be a bitter person to make it far in Republican and conservative politics these days. It’s sort of a rule.

349 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 12:58:01pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

I feel it’s worth noting that I don’t think this country has really “overcome racism” and I hope Senator Sanders doesn’t either, because it’s hard to continue to address it if you think it’s gone.

350 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 12:58:33pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

John Nolte: I had a 10 Martini Lunch before tweeting that. Fact! (hic)

351 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 12:58:35pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

If Obama’s such a disaster, please explain why X, Y, and Z have improved dramatically while he’s been president.

Obamacare Benghazi!! Caitlyn Jenner!!!11

352 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:59:12pm

DF if you’re here. What do you think of Prime Minister Cameron calling Walker a liar for saying that Cameron trashed the president when they met.

353 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 12:59:35pm

re: #351 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Obamacare Benghazi!! Caitlyn Jenner!!!11

NO TRANSGENDER ATHLETES HAPPENED BEFORE OBAMA, THAT’S A FACT.//

354 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 12:59:52pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Again sometimes the jokes run for president. Trump an unapologetic capitalist. Yeah that’s why he’s had to be bailed out by the government so many times and Trump is a much more bitter person than Obama or the actual socialist running Sanders is. You have to be a bitter person to make it far in Republican and conservative politics these days. It’s sort of a rule.

Again: The GOP lost its ability to call out Crazy at its source and distance itself from it. The Crazy has taken over the GOP and now the party has no choice but to come to terms with it.

Anti-science, anti-logic, anti-gay, anti-labor, anti-women’s rights, anti-anything associated with Obama, even if it was once associated with the GOP itself is the only standard for being accepted into the party and its program.

355 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:00:46pm

These people are sick. Not a single mention about what happened to the person that raped her.

356 Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2015 1:00:55pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

A

I prescribe 4 years of Hillary.

I’m not sure their heads exploding counts as help.

357 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:01:04pm

And that is a legitimate point. I hope and re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Again: The GOP lost its ability to call out Crazy at its source and distance itself from it. The Crazy has taken over the GOP and now the party has no choice but to come to terms with it.

Anti-science, anti-logic, anti-gay, anti-labor, anti-women’s rights, anti-anything associated with Obama, even if it was once associated with the GOP itself is the only standard for being accepted into the party and its program.

Oh I know believe me. I am just saying that being bitter is part of what it takes to run for president in the GOP so this guy calling socialists bitter is funny to me.

358 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 1:02:06pm

re: #355 Kid A

These people are sick.

What they cannot accept is that this is part of “freedom of choice”: a woman should have the right to make that decision for HERSELF and not under duress or threat of legal consequences.

And iof she chooses to keep the child, she should be able to rely on support to raise it on her own.

359 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:02:17pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Donald Trump faces the ineluctable obstacle that, outside of those R voters with a Pavlovian response to conservative buzz words, the distance between how he sees himself and how most people see him would be measured in light years.

360 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:02:27pm

re: #355 Kid A

These people are sick.

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Really it’s called pro-choice for a reason. That said, I am not comfortable with the idea of a 12 year old girl giving birth. And I highly doubt she really chose without pressure. That said, it’s another example of why pro-lifers ignore the choice in pro-choice.

361 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 1:02:32pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I feel it’s worth noting that I don’t think this country has really “overcome racism” and I hope Senator Sanders doesn’t either, because it’s hard to continue to address it if you think it’s gone.

Bernie may need to address it more personally than others….

362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:04:00pm

re: #355 Kid A

These people are sick.

And if this BRAVE 13 yr old could refuse abortion despite rape then all sluts in Merica should be able to too!!!111

363 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 1:05:04pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How evah did he find time, what with his AnnRom Pilates and all.

364 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 1:05:38pm

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What they cannot accept is that this is part of “freedom of choice”: a woman should have the right to make that decision for HERSELF and not under duress or threat of legal consequences.

Not possible in a case of rape. The pregnancy was not chosen. She cannot decide to be old enough to bear a child. She did it, but to use her to encourage others to choose similarly is irresponsible.

365 Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2015 1:05:44pm

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Yes it has a digestive system. Its anus is in the middle of Donald’s face right below his nose.

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Of course it has a digestive system. It ate his brain decades ago.

366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:07:21pm

I hate when I’m still at work, am hungry, don’t have any cash on me, and just ate my afternoon snack.

367 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 1:07:45pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!

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Hey, something good about Issa, he doesn’t litter. He’s only 99% malicious.

368 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 1:08:07pm

Alex Jones haz a sad:

369 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:08:59pm

re: #368 Lidane

Alex Jones haz a sad:

He can join the long list of RWNJ who promised to leave Merica if Obama was elected, if Obama was re-elected, etc.

370 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 1:09:01pm

re: #366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I hate when I’m still at work, am hungry, don’t have any cash on me, and just ate my afternoon snack.

Nothing you can steal from the fridge?

371 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:09:15pm

re: #370 #FergusonFireside

Nothing you can steal from the fridge?

Nothing I’d want to steal from the fridge.

372 lawhawk  Jun 16, 2015 1:10:30pm

re: #370 #FergusonFireside

Nothing you can steal from the fridge?

You. Yes you. Stand still with it!

How can you eat your pudding if you wont eat your meat? /

373 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:10:50pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I feel it’s worth noting that I don’t think this country has really “overcome racism” and I hope Senator Sanders doesn’t either, because it’s hard to continue to address it if you think it’s gone.

Well, if anyone in the SE has a spare moment:

naacp.org

(Open to all races, real or imagined.)

374 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2015 1:11:00pm

Now that American Sniper is on Redbox, a bunch of fake “vets” have taken to Instagram to boast about how “real” that movie is, and how much of a “hero” Chris Kyle was. Pfff.

375 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:11:57pm

re: #371 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Nothing I’d want to steal from the fridge.

Wasn’t there a running joke about The Aluminum Foil Package in the back of the refrigerator in “Married with Children”?

376 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2015 1:12:22pm

re: #375 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Mom’s Mystery Pack.

Youtube Video

377 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 1:12:22pm

re: #368 Lidane

Alex Jones haz a sad:

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Another Ted Nugent with a false threat to leave the country or do some other dumb shit if someone they don’t like wins, The Republican idiots are so dramatic. lol

378 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 1:12:27pm

Clever:

379 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:12:30pm

re: #369 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He can join the long list of RWNJ who promised to leave Merica if Obama was elected, if Obama was re-elected, etc.

Ted Nugent still owes us a death or a jail term.

380 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 1:13:42pm

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Ted Nugent still owes us a death or a jail term.

I’d settle for an extended public silence as a probationary measure.

381 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:14:13pm

re: #376 GlutenFreeJesus

Mom’s Mystery Meat.

Thank you!

382 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:15:01pm

Okay, there’s this:

Currently, Ashley does not receive support from the State of Indiana. Unfortunately, the state of Indiana is one of 31 states that has no law protecting a child conceived through rape from his biological father.

If Ashley files for any kind of government assistance, the state must go after Aiden’s biological father for repayment. In return, he can demand visitation rights. We are encouraging legislators to pass legislation protecting these children and their mothers from being victimized once again by terminating any rights that father might have. But until Indiana changes its law regarding children conceived in rape, Ashley’s parents must bear the financial burden of caring for Aiden.

383 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:15:04pm

re: #380 Feline Fearless Leader

I’d settle for an extended public silence as a probationary measure.

A contract is a contract is a contract.

384 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 16, 2015 1:16:21pm

re: #222 jaunte

¡Trumpwreck!

Trumpnado

385 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 1:16:37pm

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Ted Nugent still owes us a death or a jail term.

My choice of which he should take should be obvious.

386 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:16:45pm

re: #378 Lidane

Clever:

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Yeah Jeb can go fuck himself for that bs.

387 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2015 1:16:53pm

re: #381 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Meat. Pack. Whatever. lol Edited for video above. :)

388 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 1:18:03pm

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And if this BRAVE 13 yr old could refuse abortion despite rape then all sluts in Merica should be able to too!!!111

That was similar the message that Sarah Palin sent us in 2008 regarding her daughter, Bristol: “If your daughter gets knocked up by some loser, she’s stuck with it!”

389 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:18:51pm

re: #375 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Wasn’t there a running joke about The Aluminum Foil Package in the back of the refrigerator in “Married with Children”?

Refrig here has to be cleaned out and detoxed by some brave soul(s) every now and then. The stuff people leave here….

390 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:21:25pm

re: #378 Lidane

Clever:

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Bush neatly dances around the root cause of the limited possibilities for children of single mothers while demonstrating the limited possibilities of an incurious person born with a silver foot in his mouth.

391 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 1:21:30pm

re: #378 Lidane

Clever:

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Fuck you Bush, My mom raised me and my 2 sisters by herself when my dad left when I was 5, I’m 63 now and my sisters and myself have done pretty good in life thanks to our mom. And I must add that was without any child support from my dad.

392 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 1:22:01pm

Wingnut solutions to everything are based on cookie cutter people.

393 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jun 16, 2015 1:23:05pm

re: #391 Tigger2

Fuck you Bush, My mom raised me and my 2 sisters by herself when my dad left when I was 5, I’m 63 now and my sisters and myself have done pretty good in like thanks to my mom.

“Single moms” is just code for “Black women”.

Edit: Or moms that have the temerity to divorce shitty husbands.

394 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:23:15pm

re: #390 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bush neatly dances around the root cause of the limited possibilities for children of single mothers while demonstrating the limited possibilities of an incurious person born with a silver foot in his mouth.

Well of course, remember it was his father who was born on third and thought he hit the triple and the older Bush is a lot more humble than the sons.

395 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:23:34pm

re: #393 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

“Single moms” is just code for “Black women”.

Yes, yes it is.

396 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 1:24:21pm

re: #391 Tigger2

Fuck you Bush, My mom raised me and my 2 sisters by herself when my dad left when I was 5, I’m 63 now and my sisters and myself have done pretty good in like thanks to my mom.

It is so charming when they lay the responsibility for all the bad things on single moms. Yanno, the ones who actually stuck around and took that responsibility.

397 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:24:24pm

re: #384 Iwouldprefernotto

Trumpnado

I for one am feeling the Trumpmentum. I’m voting for Trump because he’s the only candidate whose hair can wave at people by itself.

398 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:25:32pm

re: #396 allegro

It is so charming when they lay the responsibility for all the bad things on single moms. Yanno, the ones who actually stuck around and took that responsibility.

No kidding. Why not attack the fathers who left absolving any responsibility? Oh wait, we’re talking about the MRA party here.

399 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 1:26:40pm

re: #398 HappyWarrior

No kidding. Why not attack the fathers who left absolving any responsibility? Oh wait, we’re talking about the MRA party here.

Because libtards won’t let dads hang around to support their kids. Or something.

400 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 1:27:05pm

re: #390 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bush neatly dances around the root cause of the limited possibilities for children of single mothers while demonstrating the limited possibilities of an incurious person born with a silver foot in his mouth.

Bush is shaping up to be the Romney of this primary season: Totally divorced from the common man due to being born in the purple, convinced that his gubernatorial record is more laudable than it really was, and that he has some entitlement to the presidency because of his lineage as well as “it’s my turn.”

401 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 1:27:54pm
402 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:28:17pm

re: #396 allegro

It is so charming when they lay the responsibility for all the bad things on single moms. Yanno, the ones who actually stuck around and took that responsibility.

They did it for the free cellphones, TVs and T Bone steaks. Libs are so naive.

403 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 1:28:39pm

re: #391 Tigger2

Fuck you Bush, My mom raised me and my 2 sisters by herself when my dad left when I was 5, I’m 63 now and my sisters and myself have done pretty good in life thanks to our mom.

My father died when I was seven. Those Captains of American Industry, the Job Creators at US Steel, where my father had worked for 30 years, declared that my mother was ineligible for a widow’s pension as my father died before he retired.

We survived with the aid of social security.

My mother later found out about a class action suit against USX, the successor to US Steel and received a small settlement, but without SS, we would have lost our house and home.

So yeah, fuck you, Bush. Of course it’s better if a kid is raised in an intact family, but not everyone can be like GWB and Barbara…

404 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 1:29:13pm

Abbott signed House Bill 483 into law last Friday, stating, “Today I signed HB 483 to provide a secure facility for the State of Texas, state agencies and Texas citizens to store gold bullion and other precious metals. With the passage of this bill, the Texas Bullion Depository will become the first state-level facility of its kind in the nation, increasing the security and stability of our gold reserves and keeping taxpayer funds from leaving Texas to pay for fees to store gold in facilities outside our state.”

Under the terms of the bill, written by Rep. Giovanni Capriglione (R-Tarrant County), the gold will be held in state run depository beyond the reach of the federal government and other any “quasi-governmental authority” should they attempt to access or “confiscate” it.

Section A2116.023 of the bill states: “Purported confiscation, requisition, seizure, or other attempt to control the ownership … is void and of no force or effect.”

The bill also states “The depository in the case of receiving notice of a purported confiscation, requisition, seizure, or other attempt to control the ownership, disposition, or proceeds of a withdrawal,transfer, liquidation, or settlement of a depository account … may not
recognize the governmental or quasi-governmental authority, financial institution, or other person acting as the lawful successor of the registered holder of a depository account in question.”

405 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 1:29:21pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Well of course, remember it was his father who was born on third and thought he hit the triple and the older Bush is a lot more humble than the sons.

The older Bush also got shot down in WW2 and spent some time floating in the Pacific in a rubber raft waiting to be picked up. And flew 58 combat missions.

Slightly different experience set than his sons had.

406 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:29:24pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I feel it’s worth noting that I don’t think this country has really “overcome racism” and I hope Senator Sanders doesn’t either, because it’s hard to continue to address it if you think it’s gone.

I didn’t like how Sanders made his point, since it was dismissive. How hard can it be to state forthrightly that racism remains a pressing problem to address and that plutocracy in the US is also a pressing problem to address?

407 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jun 16, 2015 1:31:27pm

re: #406 EPR-radar

I didn’t like how Sanders made his point, since it was dismissive. How hard can it be to state forthrightly that racism remains a pressing problem to address and that plutocracy in the US is also a pressing problem to address?

Sanders has a huge blind spot when it comes to race, he keeps thinking it comes back to economic problems. Economic problems, for black people, mostly stem from racism. He gets it backwards.

He comes from a place with almost no black people. I think he can learn, but he really needs to goddamn listen.

Some of his supporters are terrible about this, and start attacking black people in very GOP-like terms, for not ‘realizing’ what their ‘real best interests’ are.

408 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:31:31pm

More bad news for wingnuts:

409 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 1:31:35pm

Fun with windmaps as tropical storms make landfall.

410 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2015 1:31:36pm

re: #406 EPR-radar

I didn’t like how Sanders made his point, since it was dismissive. How hard can it be to state forthrightly that racism remains a pressing problem to address and that plutocracy in the US is also a pressing problem to address?

We should be willing to attempt to deal with both the race war and the class war at the same time. Especially since they are inter-related.

411 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 1:32:21pm

re: #402 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They did it for the free cellphones, TVs and T Bone steaks. Libs are so naive.

…and seafood

412 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:32:30pm

Wingnuts are such low-hanging fruit.

413 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:33:00pm

re: #405 Feline Fearless Leader

The older Bush also got shot down in WW2 and spent some time floating in the Pacific in a rubber raft waiting to be picked up. And flew 58 combat missions.

Slightly different experience set than his sons had.

Yeah I actually respect the father quite a bit.

414 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:33:34pm

re: #408 Kid A

More bad news for wingnuts:

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Ha!!1 Wingnuts are impervious to your commie “news” and “science”.

415 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 1:34:09pm

re: #405 Feline Fearless Leader

The older Bush also got shot down in WW2 and spent some time floating in the Pacific in a rubber raft waiting to be picked up. And flew 58 combat missions.

Slightly different experience set than his sons had.

Bush Sr. came from a well-to-do lineage, but he’d also had time in the trenches and so had the humility that came with it. His sons were born to privilege and never had to do much in the way of heavy-lifting. Bush Sr. volunteered because he wanted to serve his country, Dubya volunteered because he didn’t want to shipped off to ‘Nam.

416 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 1:34:53pm

re: #404 Kragar

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Somebody is so gonna rob that joint.

417 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:35:06pm

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

418 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:35:48pm

re: #417 Kid A

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

Ah, just the sales tax. Doesn’t count. The poors will pay that.

419 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:35:49pm

re: #407 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

Sanders has a huge blind spot when it comes to race, he keeps thinking it comes back to economic problems. Economic problems, for black people, mostly stem from racism. He gets it backwards.

He comes from a place with almost no black people. I think he can learn, but he really needs to goddamn listen.

Some of his supporters are terrible about this, and start attacking black people in very GOP-like terms, for not ‘realizing’ what their ‘real best interests’ are.

You’d think he know a little better. He is from Brooklyn originally. He’s not a bigot, far from it but I do think he comes off naive about racism and socio-economic issues.

420 The Mountain That Blogs  Jun 16, 2015 1:36:33pm

…

421 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 1:37:11pm

re: #417 Kid A

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

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And its a sales tax hike, so it will fuck the poor and middle class most, while the tax cuts Brownie made for the rich stay in place.

Pigfucker.

422 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 1:37:57pm

re: #404 Kragar

U have read that one of the reasons that Texas moved the gold into its own depository is the fear that they might lose the gold to counterparty liability should the bank get caught in a future financial melt down.

423 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:38:04pm

re: #420 The Mountain That Blogs

Can Texas secede from the Union?

Sure it can—every 150 years.

424 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 1:38:34pm

re: #417 Kid A

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

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Not only the biggest tax hike in state history, but it’s all “trickling down” like a golden shower onto the heads of those least able to afford higher taxes. The rich made out like bandits, and after Sam found he could cut no more because the courts refuse to bend to his will, he had to relent and allow the legislature to fuck the poor over without any lube.

I cannot find in me any sympathy for the people of Kansas.

425 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:38:48pm

re: #415 Targetpractice

Bush Sr. came from a well-to-do lineage, but he’d also had time in the trenches and so had the humility that came with it. His sons were born to privilege and never had to do much in the way of heavy-lifting. Bush Sr. volunteered because he wanted to serve his country, Dubya volunteered because he didn’t want to shipped off to ‘Nam.

Dan Rather was stupid to run with the faked documents in the GWB Texas Air National Guard story. It seems highly plausible that GWB didn’t take that service very seriously, but those documents really were incredible on their face, both in substance and in form.

426 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 1:38:55pm

re: #410 Feline Fearless Leader

We should be willing to attempt to deal with both the race war and the class war at the same time. Especially since they are inter-related.

Considering how the Conservatives declared and lost their culture war, maybe we need to get them to formally declare race and class wars.

427 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:39:05pm

re: #417 Kid A

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

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Snap, Mr. Haley.

428 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:39:06pm

re: #421 Kragar

And its a sales tax hike, so it will fuck the poor and middle class most, while the tax cuts Brownie made for the rich stay in place.

Pigfucker.

Let’s raise the sales tax. The poors need to be punished for buying sneakers, phones and steaks…Hey, how come nobody’s shopping anymore?

429 Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2015 1:39:28pm

re: #372 lawhawk

You. Yes you. Stand still with it!

How can you eat your pudding if you wont eat your meat? /

Hey Lawyer!! Leave them kids alone!!

430 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 1:39:42pm

re: #416 makeitstop

Somebody is so gonna rob that joint.

That’s what I think, but I just watched 3 seasons of Banshee, which gets one thinking about these things.

431 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:39:50pm

re: #425 EPR-radar

Dan Rather was stupid to run with the faked documents in the GWB Texas Air National Guard story. It seems highly plausible that GWB didn’t take that service very seriously, but those documents really were incredible on their face, both in substance and in form.

Right.

432 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:41:08pm

re: #428 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Gotta screw the Cadillac queens somehow.
//

433 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 1:41:50pm

July first the sales tax here hits 8%. Poorest corner of the second poorest state. I consider it a failure of every elected official serving here.

434 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:42:10pm

re: #424 Targetpractice

Not only the biggest tax hike in state history, but it’s all “trickling down” like a golden shower onto the heads of those least able to afford higher taxes. The rich made out like bandits, and after Sam found he could cut no more because the courts refuse to bend to his will, he had to relent and allow the legislature to fuck the poor over without any lube.

I cannot find in me any sympathy for the people of Kansas.

People really do need to learn the hard way what it means to elect Republicans.

Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing the shock and dismay from people in places like Michigan and Wisconsin that vote GOP at the state level when their GOP state legislatures simply give the state’s electoral votes to the GOP candidate in 2016.

435 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 1:42:49pm

re: #417 Kid A

The worst governor in America relents after running Kansas into the ground:

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I checked the fever swamp. Freepers are unamused:

Kansas, Nevada, Nebraska… Republicans are raising taxes in the same way they would have crucified Democrats if they wanted to do the same thing. Republicans are providing evidence that cutting taxes does not equal growth in the tax base. Sad.
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Why not start laying off tax-leaches (employees) instead?
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When I am running short of funds (like know, after paying cash for a new car), I cut back spending and work harder. (I am commission-based). I would never think of asking others to bail me out.

CUT THE FRICKIN’ BUDGET, SAM! You act like a Democrat.
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“Republicans are providing evidence that cutting taxes does not equal growth in the tax base.”

It is hard to prove that the Laffer Curve works or does not work on a micro economic unit such as a single state. The article also does not mention efforts at controlling spending, etc. that are necessary for the Laffer curve to work.
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I never supported him for Governor. However I’m more disappointed in the legislature. They were the ones that kept his liberalism in check. He was doing a decent job without having leftist bills put on his desk by a good legislature. Until now.
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If the GOP gives up on Reaganomics, they’ve got, what??

“We’re just like the Democrats, only a bit less so.” ?

How in the heck is THAT a winning strategy?
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It has now passed the Kansas Senate and is on the way to Brownback’s desk.

This is just completely insane. It was really a no win situation as the corrupt Kansas media was going to crucify the Republicans for cutting programs (oh the children, the poor) to get under budget or now, criticizing them for raising people’s taxes. I am so upset with the Republicans for caving to our corrupt media. We the people’s just need to tell these liberals that dominate the media to just shove it and not care what they print or say.

436 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:42:52pm

Yep, the poor get fucked again.
thinkprogress.org

437 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:42:55pm

re: #433 wrenchwench

July first the sales tax here hits 8%. Poorest corner of the second poorest state. I consider it a failure of every elected official serving here.

Ideally I’d like what VP Biden’s Delaware does and have no sales tax at all.

438 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:42:58pm

re: #428 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Let’s raise the sales tax. The poors need to be punished for buying sneakers, phones and steaks…Hey, how come nobody’s shopping anymore?

About 25% of the increase is taken from a single large urbanized county:

kansascity.com

439 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 1:43:18pm

re: #355 Kid A

These people are sick. Not a single mention about what happened to the person that raped her.

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According to the article he was convicted.

No mention of this teenager mom getting an education, though.

440 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 1:43:58pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

Ideally I’d like what VP Biden’s Delaware does and have no sales tax at all.

Oregon too, and one more I think.

441 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 1:44:05pm

re: #421 Kragar

And its a sales tax hike, so it will fuck the poor and middle class most, while the tax cuts Brownie made for the rich stay in place.

Pigfucker.

HURR HURR FAIR TAX!!!!!!

442 Snarknado!  Jun 16, 2015 1:44:52pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

You’d think he know a little better. He is from Brooklyn originally. He’s not a bigot, far from it but I do think he comes off naive about racism and socio-economic issues.

Not to mention that he was active in the civil rights movement when he was younger.

443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:45:14pm

re: #435 Lidane

This is just completely insane. It was really a no win situation as the corrupt Kansas media was going to crucify the Republicans for cutting programs (oh the children, the poor) to get under budget or now, criticizing them for raising people’s taxes. I am so upset with the Republicans for caving to our corrupt media. We the people’s just need to tell these liberals that dominate the media to just shove it and not care what they print or say.

It’s all the corrupt media’s fault.

/

444 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:45:57pm

re: #421 Kragar

And its a sales tax hike, so it will fuck the poor and middle class most, while the tax cuts Brownie made for the rich stay in place.

Pigfucker.

100% agree. It looks like the fiscal conservatives want to reclaim the title of worst pig-people in the world from the social conservatives.

445 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 1:46:21pm

… the new depository will not just be a well-guarded warehouse for that bullion. The law Abbott signed calls for the creation of an electronic payments system that will allow gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and rhodium depositors to write checks against their accounts, making the depository into a bank - one that will create a metal-backed money supply intended to challenge the paper currency issued by the Federal Reserve - or “Yankee dollars” as one of the law’s top supporters calls them. And in case the Fed or Obama wants to confiscate Texas’s gold, nice try Fed and Obama! In keeping with this suspicion of the Fed and Washington, the new law also explicitly declares that no “governmental or quasi-governmental authority other than an authority of [Texas]” will be allowed to confiscate or freeze an account inside the depository. Gold that’s entrusted to Texas will stay in Texas.

446 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:46:51pm

re: #435 Lidane

I never supported him for Governor. However I’m more disappointed in the legislature. They were the ones that kept his liberalism in check. He was doing a decent job without having leftist bills put on his desk by a good legislature. Until now.

Can’t figure this statement out. Disappointed in the legislature although the legislature has kept Brownback’s liberalism in check but then legislature is putting leftist liberal bills on his desk.

?

447 De Kolta Chair  Jun 16, 2015 1:48:00pm

re: #404 Kragar

Pictured above: Greg Abbott’s wife? Just asking questions.
448 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:48:07pm

re: #445 Kragar

What a wonderful pile of grade-A derp. Texan exceptionalism, gold-buggery, and a few whiffs of nullification all in a few sentences.

449 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:48:12pm

re: #446 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Can’t figure this statement out. Disappointed in the legislature although the legislature has kept Brownback’s liberalism in check but then legislature is putting leftist liberal bills on his desk.

?

No true conservative Scotsman.

450 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 1:48:27pm

re: #435 Lidane

I checked the fever swamp. Freepers are unamused:

This is the prion disease that has afflicted the GOP and its base in full bloom. They really do believe that Sam just didn’t cut enough from the budget, that these tax hikes are being pushed by “leftists,” and the failure of tax cuts to create an economic boom in Kansas just means it wasn’t done “right.”

Christ, it’s like watching diehard communists declare that nobody has done communism like Marx intended, because if they’d done it right, it would be paradise.

451 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 1:49:17pm

re: #444 EPR-radar

100% agree. It looks like the fiscal conservatives want to reclaim the title of worst pig-people in the world from the social conservatives.

I’m pretty well convinced now that the term fiscal conservatism means third world country. ////

452 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 1:49:50pm
453 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:50:04pm

re: #442 Snarknado!

Not to mention that he was active in the civil rights movement when he was younger.

Bernie thinks the white working class would vote Democratic again if Democrats did something about billionaires.

I don’t see it.

454 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:50:39pm

re: #450 Targetpractice

This is the prion disease that has afflicted the GOP and its base in full bloom. They really do believe that Sam just didn’t cut enough from the budget, that these tax hikes are being pushed by “leftists,” and the failure of tax cuts to create an economic boom in Kansas just means it wasn’t done “right.”

Christ, it’s like watching diehard communists declare that nobody has done communism like Marx intended, because if they’d done it right, it would be paradise.

A good analogy. They’re never going to like those communists get that the ideology is the problem.

455 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:50:40pm

re: #451 Tigger2

I’m pretty well convinced now that the term fiscal conservatism means third world country. ////

What on Earth are the sarc tags for? That’s right up there with “water is wet.////”

456 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 1:50:44pm

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

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Gee, I can’t imagine why a guy whose committee leaked like a sieve while he was chairman would be barred from a closed door deposition…

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457 Kid A  Jun 16, 2015 1:50:46pm

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

Ah, yes. Issa the arsonist.

458 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 1:51:04pm

re: #448 EPR-radar

What a wonderful pile of grade-A derp. Texan exceptionalism, gold-buggery, and a few whiffs of nullification all in a few sentences.

The good guv doesn’t realize that Texas is already occupied by the Yankee forces at Ft. Hood, Bliss, and a dozen other installations.

459 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 1:51:09pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

The latest version of the LGF front page reboot now has live-updating last comments, page views, time stamps, and tweet counters. And if you’ve subscribed, you’ll no longer see the advertisements.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Now it really looks cool.

460 darthstar  Jun 16, 2015 1:52:14pm

Can we stop sending federal money to Texas for a few months so we can see how their gold standard non-US currency fares?

Also, I’d appreciate some import and export tariffs on Texas.

461 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:52:20pm

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

Not long before Issa is wandering around downtown aimlessly jabbering “Benghazi, Benghazi….”

462 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 1:52:39pm

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

Yes it has a digestive system. Its anus is in the middle of Donald’s face right below his nose.

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Human Centipede 4: The Donald Sequence?

463 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 1:53:06pm

re: #445 Kragar

Will those checks be honored anywhere else outside Texas or its depository?

464 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:53:15pm

re: #461 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not long before Issa is wandering around downtown aimlessly jabbering “Benghazi, Benghazi….”

No my poor Dad may have pick up his crazy ass while Ubering if that happened.

465 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 16, 2015 1:54:16pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

Will those checks be honored anywhere else outside Texas or its depository?

Is it even legal? I know it’s not sane.

466 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 1:54:21pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

Will those checks be honored anywhere else outside Texas or its depository?

Everywhere there is a Bank of Ron Paul.

467 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 1:55:05pm

re: #455 EPR-radar

What on Earth are the sarc tags for? That’s right up there with “water is wet.////”

Because I only half believe it, I think some of them that call themselves Fiscal Conservatives don’t want to go as far as some of the other fanatics do.

468 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 1:56:28pm
469 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 1:56:39pm

re: #445 Kragar

I’m old enough to remember when American revolutionaries fought to expand the money supply, create land banks, etc.

470 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 1:56:46pm

Abbot’s statement: “The law will repatriate $1 billion of gold bullion from the Federal Reserve in New York to Texas.”

The problem: “Texas has no gold bars in the Federal Reserve’s New York vault. And what the state has is not worth a billion dollars. Instead some 4,200 gold bars bought in 2011 by the University of Texas’s endowment fund (the second largest in the country after Harvard’s) are stored in the basement vault of HSBC’s headquarters at 450 5th Avenue in New York City, just south of the New York Public Library. For the last four years, the endowment has paid an estimated $1 million per year to store their gold there. (If it had been at the New York Fed the cost would have totaled about $15,400 over that period). And the new depository law does not require the university’s endowment fund to relocate the gold to Texas.”

471 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 1:56:48pm

re: #467 Tigger2

Because I only half believe it, I think some of them that call themselves Fiscal Conservatives don’t want to go as far as some of the other fanatics do.

Yet they’ll work with the fanatics. They might as well be fanatics themselves.

472 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 1:56:49pm

I read Sanders as saying “overcame racism [this one time] and elected…”. Not “forever”. This may be just my bias speaking of course.

473 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 1:57:51pm

re: #467 Tigger2

Because I only half believe it, I think some of them that call themselves Fiscal Conservatives don’t want to go as far as some of the other fanatics do.

IMO there is no practical difference between these two categories as long as the less fanatical continue to enable the more fanatical.

This pattern applies to just about every other issue where GOP “moderates in the mist” allegedly exist in any meaningful way.

474 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 1:57:59pm

Here’s an acceptable GOP candidate. Should clear the clown car out pretty quickly.

475 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 1:58:05pm

re: #471 No Country For Old Haters

Yet they’ll work with the fanatics. They might as well be fanatics themselves.

Norquist is just as obnoxious as the socon fanatics in my eyes.

476 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 2:00:10pm

re: #445 Kragar

This should address the problem in America of runaway hyperinflation of 2%.

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477 De Kolta Chair  Jun 16, 2015 2:00:13pm

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

I suggest Trey Gowdy check to see if his car alarm has been hacked.

478 darthstar  Jun 16, 2015 2:00:34pm
479 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:01:29pm

re: #474 wrenchwench

Here’s an acceptable GOP candidate. Should clear the clown car out pretty quickly.

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It’s better-looking than some of the candidates. I see no comb-over.

480 darthstar  Jun 16, 2015 2:01:33pm

re: #477 De Kolta Chair

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I suggest Trey Gowdy check to see if his car alarm has been hacked.

Beat me by 21 seconds.

481 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:02:00pm

re: #470 Kragar

Abbot’s statement: “The law will repatriate $1 billion of gold bullion from the Federal Reserve in New York to Texas.”

The problem: “Texas has no gold bars in the Federal Reserve’s New York vault….snip/blockquote>

The other problem: Abbot’s got no patria to repatriate the gold to. Texas isn’t really like a “whole nuther country”

482 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 2:02:03pm

re: #473 EPR-radar

IMO there is no practical difference between these two categories as long as the less fanatical continue to enable the more fanatical.

This pattern applies to just about every other issue where GOP “moderates in the mist” allegedly exist in any meaningful way.

The main problem is the fanatics are the ones in power and the others have to go along to get any kind of their Fiscal concerns met, I have seen this play out on many diff issues over the years. I don’t like it but it happens. There are just to many fanatical republicans voting for idiots now of days.

483 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 2:02:18pm

re: #435 Lidane

I checked the fever swamp. Freepers are unamused:

It’s so cute how they really, really try to sound intelligent.

484 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 2:02:51pm

re: #472 Nyet

I read Sanders as saying “overcame racism [this one time] and elected…”. Not “forever”. This may be just my bias speaking of course.

There are ways to parse Sanders’ statement that may make it somewhat less objectionable. That simply isn’t good enough for prime time.

He needs to do much better on identity issues, since they are just as important in US politics as economic issues.

I’m starting to get irritated with Sanders because the way he pushes economic issues at the expense of other issues will be counter-productive.

485 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:03:34pm

re: #483 makeitstop

It’s so cute how they really, really try to sound intelligent.

If they knew they were fanatical morons, they probably wouldn’t derp on the Internet to confirm what they are.

486 De Kolta Chair  Jun 16, 2015 2:03:36pm

re: #480 darthstar

Beat me by 21 seconds.

Great minds and all that.

487 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 2:04:14pm

So, if Texas secedes, wouldn’t that make Ted Cruz ineligible to run for President and force Gohmert out of Congress?

DO IT! DO IT!

488 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:04:36pm

re: #484 EPR-radar

There are ways to parse Sanders’ statement that may make it somewhat less objectionable. That simply isn’t good enough for prime time.

He needs to do much better on identity issues, since they are just as important in US politics as economic issues.

I’m starting to get irritated with Sanders because the way he pushes economic issues at the expense of other issues will be counter-productive.

Everyone has their own goals. I have a socialist coworker, and he doesn’t give a damn about race or gender issues. It’s all about dismantling capitalism.

489 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 2:05:19pm

re: #487 Kragar

So, if Texas secedes, wouldn’t that make Ted Cruz ineligible to run for President and force Gohmert out of Congress?

DO IT! DO IT!

Hell, knowing wingnuts, they’d demand that the first thing Texas did after seceding would be to appoint Cruz as their president.

490 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 2:05:21pm

Others here have said similar things, but I can’t find ‘em.

491 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:05:32pm

re: #487 Kragar

So, if Texas secedes, wouldn’t that make Ted Cruz ineligible to run for President and force Gohmert out of Congress?

DO IT! DO IT!

GOP would lose their EVs too.

492 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:06:05pm

re: #484 EPR-radar

I wouldn’t have given a benefit of doubt to a wingnut, since it’s an established RW narrative that racism has been “overcome”. Hence I see my double standard there. The question is whether it’s justified. We know he’s no wingnut. On the other hand he can still be a clueless white male at times.

I agree that it’s prime-time-bad, at any rate.

493 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:06:23pm

re: #489 Targetpractice

Hell, knowing wingnuts, they’d demand that the first thing Texas did after seceding would be to appoint Cruz as their president.

Fine by me as long as we take their nukes before we build the wall.

494 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 2:06:23pm

re: #490 wrenchwench

Just dismissing Trump as a clown misses the point. He expresses the right-wing id.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive.

495 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:06:47pm

re: #488 No Country For Old Haters

Everyone has their own goals. I have a socialist coworker, and he doesn’t give a damn about race or gender issues. It’s all about dismantling capitalism.

That is a blind spot I’ve seen with some socialists, racism and sexism aren’t as important to them as destroying capitalism.

496 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 2:06:56pm

re: #483 makeitstop

It’s so cute how they really, really try to sound intelligent.

When are these fucking idiots going to learn it takes money to run a Government, Federal, State and Local.

497 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:07:45pm

re: #490 wrenchwench

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Others here have said similar things, but I can’t find ‘em.

498 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 2:07:48pm

re: #494 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive.

Only if the right-wing id is dismissible.

499 bratwurst  Jun 16, 2015 2:07:56pm

Finally, a REALISTIC idea!

500 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 2:08:10pm

re: #496 Tigger2

When are these fucking idiots going to learn it takes money to run a Government, Federal, State and Local.

Their solution -> get rid of government.

501 Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2015 2:08:16pm

Our gamers in? I bought Command: Modern Air Naval Operations. Because I liked Harpoon back in the day. Anyone else played this?

Video

502 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 2:08:22pm

re: #445 Kragar

a metal-backed money supply intended to challenge the paper currency issued by the Federal Reserve - or “Yankee dollars” as one of the law’s top supporters calls them.

The people Capriglioni does business with should force him to pay them in gold coin.

503 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:08:32pm

re: #493 No Country For Old Haters

Fine by me as long as we take their nukes before we build the wall.

Texas has no nukes. Those are Yankee nukes and the permissive action links respond to someone with a DC area code.

504 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:09:09pm

re: #495 HappyWarrior

That is a blind spot I’ve seen with some socialists, racism and sexism aren’t as important to them as destroying capitalism.

That’s sort of a good point too. They see everything through the class lenses, also the racial relations. You know like, “fascism is an outgrowth of capitalism” and stuff, which it may be, but it’s also much more than that.

And Western socialists are still better than, say, the Russian ones, who can be sexist, racist and homophobic at once.

505 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:09:22pm

re: #501 Great White Snark

Our gamers in? I bought Command: Modern Air Naval Operations. Because I liked Harpoon back in the day. Anyone else played this?

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I’m here, but I’m not familiar with those games. i’m currently replaying Fallout 3, since the Fallout 4 presentation got me excited about the series.

506 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 2:09:35pm

re: #497 No Country For Old Haters

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No shit, if anybody thinks that the rest of the pack isn’t fighting for the very same votes that Trump is, they’re fooling themselves. The GOP can’t write off its base, because corporations can’t vote and even if they could, there’s not enough of them to make up the difference.

507 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 2:09:54pm

re: #500 b_sharp

Their solution -> get rid of government.

I don’t really think they have though that out, I don’t think they would like the outcome if they got their way.

508 jaunte  Jun 16, 2015 2:10:47pm

Secessionist doofuses in Texas will have nothing to celebrate. They will always be outspent and out-lobbied by Texas defense contractors making millions from federal contracts.

509 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:11:17pm

re: #504 Nyet

And Western socialists are still better than, say, the Russian ones, who can be sexist, racist and homophobic at once.

Russia seems to have slid backward in recent years. The regressive attitudes are alarming from a country that should be as civilized as America. The Russians I’ve met are all really smart, including you Sergey.

510 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 2:12:58pm

re: #508 jaunte

Secessionist doofuses in Texas will have nothing to celebrate. They will always be outspent and out-lobbied by Texas defense contractors making millions from federal contracts.

Women won’t want to secede: an abortion is now an out-of-state thing for many, secession would make it an out-of-country thing.

511 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:13:27pm

re: #504 Nyet

That’s sort of a good point too. They see everything through the class lenses, also the racial relations. You know like, “fascism is an outgrowth of capitalism” and stuff, which it may be, but it’s also much more than that.

And Western socialists are still better than, say, the Russian ones, who can be sexist, racist and homophobic at once.

Right. Russian socialists can be just as bad as the right. Western ones that fit what we’re talking about I’d describe as more naive than bigoted or mean spirited. They just see class as being the end all when it’s not.

512 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 2:13:30pm

re: #458 Decatur Deb

The good guv doesn’t realize that Texas is already occupied by the Yankee forces at Ft. Hood, Bliss, and a dozen other installations.

Not to mention Naval Air Station, Kingsville, Texas. Home of the feared whoever-they-are these days.

513 b_sharp  Jun 16, 2015 2:13:58pm

re: #507 Tigger2

I don’t really think they have though that out, I don’t think they would like the outcome if they got their way.

I’m absolutely sure they haven’t thought that through.

If you don’t choose your government one will be forced on you. At a minimum it will be warlord style government.

514 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:14:32pm

re: #509 No Country For Old Haters

Russia seems to have slid backward in recent years. The regressive attitudes are alarming from a country that should be as civilized as America. The Russians I’ve met are all really smart, including you Sergey.

It was a planned and controlled slide. I am convinced that people of Putin’s rank and stature simply let chaos reign in the country under Yeltsin so that the people would welcome a strong, authoritarian leader who would guarantee some sort of stability to everyday life.

515 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:14:58pm

re: #510 wrenchwench

Women won’t want to secede: an abortion is now an out-of-state thing for many, secession would make it an out-of-country thing.

As a single guy, I’d like to welcome these ex-Texan women to America. They’re welcome to stay.

516 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:15:24pm

re: #506 Targetpractice

No shit, if anybody thinks that the rest of the pack isn’t fighting for the very same votes that Trump is, they’re fooling themselves. The GOP can’t write off its base, because corporations can’t vote and even if they could, there’s not enough of them to make up the difference.

Democratic capitalism: one share, one vote!

517 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:15:40pm

…Young has taken exception to Trump’s appropriation of his tune. A statement issued to Mother Jones for Young by his longtime manager Elliot Roberts suggests Young was not pleased by Trump’s use of the song:

Donald Trump’s use of “Rockin’ in the Free World” was not authorized. Mr. Young is a longtime supporter of Bernie Sanders.

In other words, it may be a free world, but you’re not free to steal my song.

518 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:15:52pm

re: #510 wrenchwench

Women won’t want to secede: an abortion is now an out-of-state thing for many, secession would make it an out-of-country thing.

Correct.

519 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:16:09pm

re: #515 No Country For Old Haters

As a single guy, I’d like to welcome these ex-Texan women to America. They’re welcome to stay.

I for one welcome our Texan overladies…

520 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:16:23pm

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You tell him Neil.

521 Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2015 2:16:27pm

re: #505 No Country For Old Haters

Yeah, naval strategy simulator. Huge database and so you can play old naval battles or sim NATO V Russia, or India V China in Larry Bond style detail.

522 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:16:57pm

re: #509 No Country For Old Haters

Slid is an understatement. More like, in free fall into an abyss.

—-

The Communist Party’s website has news about the miraculous Holy Fire in Jerusalem on Easter: kprf.ru
Quotes Patriarch Kirill’s diatribe against liberals approvingly: kprf.ru
The number of homophobic articles is uncountable.

That’s supposedly the “far-left” party. Think about the far-right ones.

523 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:17:43pm

re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It was a planned and controlled slide. I am convinced that people of Putin’s rank and stature simply let chaos reign in the country under Yeltsin so that the people would welcome a strong, authoritarian leader who would guarantee some sort of stability to everyday life.

CT.

524 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 2:17:51pm

re: #490 wrenchwench

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Others here have said similar things, but I can’t find ‘em.

I still think this is another PR stunt.

The only thing I don’t know yet is what he’s going to promote. Maybe a reality show about running for preznit.

525 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:18:28pm

re: #510 wrenchwench

Women won’t want to secede: an abortion is now an out-of-state thing for many, secession would make it an out-of-country thing.

There was a time when Abortion was illegal in Germany and there were border controls to check women who had gone to the Netherlands (where it was legal then) for signs of a recent abortion.

I am sure that an “Independent Texas” would also impose similar regulations.

526 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 2:18:40pm

re: #504 Nyet

And Western socialists are still better than, say, the Russian ones, who can be sexist, racist and homophobic at once.

One of the most admirable things, for me, about Russia was the way it seemed to acknowledge the heroism and the sacrifices of Russian women in WWII. Was that my imagination or have times changed?

527 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:20:11pm

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was awesome.

528 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:20:15pm
529 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:20:58pm

re: #525 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when Abortion was illegal in Germany and there were border controls to check women who had gone to the Netherlands (where it was legal then) for signs of a recent abortion.

I am sure that an “Independent Texas” would also impose similar regulations.

If it allows them to get up in someone’s vagina, definitely.

530 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 16, 2015 2:21:11pm

re: #502 jaunte

The people Capriglioni does business with should force him to pay them in gold coin.

OK, we’ve got are Gold bank deposit building! Hooray! So who around here’s got gold?

531 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:21:12pm

re: #526 Higgs Boson’s Mate

One of the most admirable things, for me, about Russia was the way it seemed to acknowledge the heroism and the sacrifices of Russian women in WWII. Was that my imagination or have times changed?

They paid a lot of lip service to women and their heroic sacrifices, but Russian morals and society (and the newly ascendant Orthodox Cuurch) are still very backwards when it comes to women’s rights and issues.

532 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:21:19pm

re: #526 Higgs Boson’s Mate

One of the most admirable things, for me, about Russia was the way it seemed to acknowledge the heroism and the sacrifices of Russian women in WWII. Was that my imagination or have times changed?

Was it an improvement over the Tsarist times? Sure.

But right now:

kprf.ru

(An unproofed google translation, but you’ll get the drift.)

The ruling liberal fundamentalists diligently destroy the family as a social structure that provides the connection between generations and transfer the conservative traditional norms, preserving non-market, difficult to control the connections between people and prevents them from forming an ideal consumer commodity fetishes. For this implanted and generously sponsored feminism. For that promoted “reproductive rights” of women (that is, the right to kill their own unborn children). For this created quite phantasmagoric legislation equating man thrown at the woman look to sexual harassment, and almost no rape. For this are created and funded crazy “women’s departments of sciences” in the universities. For this - for the opportunity to liberal misanthropes behalf and on behalf of the state to intrude into any suspicious pious family - spun in the media hysteria on the subject of domestic violence. For this purpose, a monstrous system “juvenile justice”. Western “Left” and are running ahead of the engine, trying to outdo themselves liberals in the promotion of women’s emancipation, a rabid feminist, “freedom of the children» (childfree) as a style of life and the destruction of the family as “a relic of the patriarchal.”

533 Mike Lamb  Jun 16, 2015 2:21:46pm

re: #408 Kid A

More bad news for wingnuts:

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Shit, I sense a re-vote on the pending SCOTUS case…

534 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:22:36pm

re: #532 Nyet

Was it an improvement over the Tsarist times? Sure.

But right now:

kprf.ru

(An unproofed google translation, but you’ll get the drift.)

Wow if I didn’t know better.

535 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:22:45pm

Communist or far-right Republican? Find 10 differences…

536 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 2:24:08pm
537 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:24:12pm

SQUIRREL!

538 Lidane  Jun 16, 2015 2:27:04pm

re: #490 wrenchwench

I’m seeing people commenting on other sites about how Trump isn’t beholden to “the special interests” and because he’s a billionaire who can pay his own way, he’s a straight shooter who tells it like it is and says all the things they want to hear.

It’s frightening that a rich dude can yell at clouds for an hour and some people think he’s a serious candidate for POTUS.

539 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:27:34pm
540 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 2:27:41pm

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

SQUIRREL!

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LOL

541 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 2:28:02pm

re: #496 Tigger2

When are these fucking idiots going to learn it takes money to run a Government, Federal, State and Local.

Forget it. Reagan tore that wall down. Who needs government? Government can’t do anything! They steal your taxes for nothing. Privatize!

And that morphed to Who needs teachers and anyone else who someone, somewhere has told them is an unnecessary government employee.

542 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:28:10pm

re: #538 Lidane

It’s frightening that a rich dude can yell at clouds for an hour and some people think he’s a serious candidate for POTUS.

Because what was once complete crazy is now mainstream in that party.

543 Tigger2  Jun 16, 2015 2:29:38pm

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

SQUIRREL!

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So cute. lol

544 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:29:41pm
545 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 2:29:49pm

re: #538 Lidane

The Trump Chumps’ implying that Trump doesn’t want or need more money is bullshit on its face. If Trump is a billionaire then he didn’t become one by not wanting more money.

546 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 16, 2015 2:29:49pm

re: #496 Tigger2

When are these fucking idiots going to learn it takes money to run a Government, Federal, State and Local.

Grover Norquist wanted to shrink government down to the size that it could be drowned in a bathtub…but now they are out of money to afford a bathtub and the water to fill it…

547 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 2:30:29pm

re: #504 Nyet

That’s sort of a good point too. They see everything through the class lenses, also the racial relations. You know like, “fascism is an outgrowth of capitalism” and stuff, which it may be, but it’s also much more than that.

And Western socialists are still better than, say, the Russian ones, who can be sexist, racist and homophobic at once.

Since it’s arguable that 90% of the issues that are subsumed under “identity” - racism, sexism, homophobia - are outgrowths of the use of class differences by the aristocracy to keep the proletariat divided and fighting among themselves, is that really such a bad orientation?

///

Slight bit of snark there as I’m dipping into college lefty lingo but the reality is that the class war does underlie much of the rest of these issues. Since they are seen as individual issues, especially in the US which is amazingly blind to the class warfare practiced by the 1% against the rest of the nation, they do have to be addressed individually. But there also has to be education about the reality of the classes and about how the destruction of the middle class as we know it in America is useful to the upper classes and how things like racism, sexism and homophobia are useful to keeping people from organizing against their oppression. I’m just left wondering if such education is even possible anymore in a nation of American Idol, Walmart & and “Every Child Left Behind” education system…

548 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 2:30:32pm

re: #510 wrenchwench

Women won’t want to secede: an abortion is now an out-of-state thing for many, secession would make it an out-of-country thing.

And about 95% of the people of Texas would leave and likely close to 99.9% of large companies.

The rest of the country would not take it well…and they would not take well those newly out-of-country companies.

549 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:31:24pm
550 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 2:31:32pm

re: #501 Great White Snark

Our gamers in? I bought Command: Modern Air Naval Operations. Because I liked Harpoon back in the day. Anyone else played this?

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Video

Looks interesting. Please post more of a review as I dug Harpoon back in the day (got a paper copy around here too, somewhere…).

551 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 2:32:27pm

re: #546 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Grover Norquist wanted to shrink government down to the size that it could be drowned in a bathtub…but now they are out of money to afford a bathtub and the water to fill it…

They were going to privatize the project, but the contractors were wise to the con so they wanted half of the money up front.

552 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:33:00pm

nothing to see here…

//

553 WhatEVs  Jun 16, 2015 2:34:04pm

re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth

21 senators voted “no” to the “we don’t torture” amendment

All Republican. Rubio was too busy to vote. Chickenshit.

554 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 2:34:30pm

re: #538 Lidane

I’m seeing people commenting on other sites about how Trump isn’t beholden to “the special interests” and because he’s a billionaire who can pay his own way, he’s a straight shooter who tells it like it is and says all the things they want to hear.

It’s frightening that a rich dude can yell at clouds for an hour and some people think he’s a serious candidate for POTUS.

Look at the bright side. If Trump does become POTUS, then The Hair(TM) can be the first pet.

555 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:34:58pm

re: #554 EPR-radar

Look at the bright side. If Trump does become POTUS, then The Hair(TM) can be the first pet.

That’s one ugly Tribble.

556 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 2:36:00pm
557 urbanmeemaw  Jun 16, 2015 2:38:33pm

re: #111 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They’re all more Catholic than the Pope.

/

Even the ones who aren’t Catholic.

558 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 2:39:14pm

re: #547 William Lewis

Since it’s arguable that 90% of the issues that are subsumed under “identity” - racism, sexism, homophobia - are outgrowths of the use of class differences by the aristocracy to keep the proletariat divided and fighting among themselves, is that really such a bad orientation?

///

Slight bit of snark there as I’m dipping into college lefty lingo but the reality is that the class war does underlie much of the rest of these issues. Since they are seen as individual issues, especially in the US which is amazingly blind to the class warfare practiced by the 1% against the rest of the nation, they do have to be addressed individually. But there also has to be education about the reality of the classes and about how the destruction of the middle class as we know it in America is useful to the upper classes and how things like racism, sexism and homophobia are useful to keeping people from organizing against their oppression. I’m just left wondering if such education is even possible anymore in a nation of American Idol, Walmart & and “Every Child Left Behind” education system…

These are very good points. If Sanders is going to go anywhere near this minefield on the campaign trail, more power to him, if he can actually talk about the issues and do more good than harm. This is certainly difficult, and may actually be impossible.

559 Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2015 2:39:20pm

re: #550 William Lewis

Looks interesting. Please post more of a review as I dug Harpoon back in the day (got a paper copy around here too, somewhere…).

You have the paper/board version? That’s cool. I’m liking it but as with the thicker games the learning curve is a little high. I know exactly want a unit or group of forces to do but planning and understanding the AI is a little vexing. It’s takes a surprising amount of processor power to run the AI engine. The enemy is smart. And some of the opposition forces are brilliant, some make dumb mistakes. With the scenario creator/editor You can re create or invent just about any air or naval battle real or imagined circa 1950 to 2020. Global.

Steam has it cheap, original retail was $199!

This is a great review.
warfaresims.com

560 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 16, 2015 2:39:57pm

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nothing to see here…

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Near future press item:
When informed of NASA’s aerial survey, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal told reporters, “We’re doing just great here in Louisiana,” Jindal said as he struck himself in the forehead to emphasize his point. “And we don’t need the federal government eying our resources for a takeover.”

561 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 16, 2015 2:40:22pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I still love the WWE Battle Royal idea. Put all the candidates in a cage and let them duke it out. Whoever comes out on top gets the nom.

How about a slight revision? Have them each drink a double-dose of Syrup of Ipecac, put them all in a sealed room and then let them puke it out. Last man standing gets to clean up the mess.

That will make the event what these clowns are all about, a laugh.

562 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:40:42pm

re: #557 urbanmeemaw

Even the ones who aren’t Catholic.

Those amuse me the most. It’s like they expect the Pope to just echo their values. I’ve said it already but pontiffs even conservative ones like this pope’s predecessor spoke out against income inequality and capitalism’s faults. The difference though is A) Francis I think is more sincere(look at how the man lives) and B) he talks about this far more than the so-con issues that conservative Christians want to hear. They’d much rather Francis denounce same sex marriage than income inequality and Francis while I’d be shocked if he ever came around on SSM definitely does see income inequality as a much bigger problem in the world than gay people marrying.

563 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:40:42pm

re: #553 WhatEVs

All Republican. Rubio was too busy to vote. Chickenshit.

Mah esteemed senator, Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third voted pro-torture, as is his wont.

564 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:41:45pm

re: #558 EPR-radar

These are very good points. If Sanders is going to go anywhere near this minefield on the campaign trail, more power to him, if he can actually talk about the issues and do more good than harm. This is certainly difficult, and may actually be impossible.

It really is hard to do since socialist is such a bad word in the American political lexicon.

565 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 2:41:56pm

re: #561 Odie Hugh Manatee

How about a slight revision? Have them each drink a double-dose of Syrup of Ipecac, put them all in a sealed room and then let them puke it out. Last man standing gets to clean up the mess.

That will make the event what these clowns are all about, a laugh.

It is disturbing that this event would be substantially less toxic than the real-life 2016 GOP primary.

566 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:43:28pm

re: #564 HappyWarrior

It really is hard to do since socialist is such a bad word in the American political lexicon.

Which is weird since most of the people they label “socialists” are actually liberal or progressive. Sanders may be the only actual socialist they’ve ever seen.

567 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:43:29pm

re: #563 Decatur Deb

Mah esteemed senator, Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third voted pro-torture, as is his wont.

I still say his name should have been that of an villain in a dramatization about the Civil War. I mean Jefferson as in Jefferson Davis, president of the CSA, Beauregard as in Beauregard who was the commander of the troops that fired on Fort Sumter, and Sessions which sounds almost like secession. The only thing more comical would be if he were a staunch liberal.

568 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:43:39pm

re: #562 HappyWarrior

Those amuse me the most. It’s like they expect the Pope to just echo their values. I’ve said it already but pontiffs even conservative ones like this pope’s predecessor spoke out against income inequality and capitalism’s faults. The difference though is A) Francis I think is more sincere(look at how the man lives) and B) he talks about this far more than the so-con issues that conservative Christians want to hear. They’d much rather Francis denounce same sex marriage than income inequality and Francis while I’d be shocked if he ever came around on SSM definitely does see income inequality as a much bigger problem in the world than gay people marrying.

Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum.

“His encyclicals changed the Church’s relations with temporal authorities, and, in the 1891 encyclical Rerum novarum, for the first time addressed social inequality and social justice issues with Papal authority, focusing on the rights and duties of capital and labour. He was greatly influenced by Wilhelm Emmanuel von Ketteler, a German bishop who openly propagated siding with the suffering working classes in his book Die Arbeiterfrage und das Christentum. Since Leo XIII, Papal teachings have expanded on the rights and obligations of workers and the limitations of private property: Pope Pius XI Quadragesimo anno, the Social teachings of Pope Pius XII on a huge range of social issues, John XXIII Mater et magistra in 1961, Pope Paul VI, the encyclical Populorum progressio on world development issues, and Pope John Paul II, Centesimus annus, commemorating the 100th anniversary of Rerum novarum. Leo XIII had argued that both capitalism and communism are flawed. Rerum novarum introduced the idea of subsidiarity, the principle that political and social decisions should be taken at a local level, if possible, rather than by a central authority, into Catholic social thought. A list of all of Leo’s encyclicals can be found in the List of Encyclicals of Pope Leo XIII.”

en.wikipedia.org

569 urbanmeemaw  Jun 16, 2015 2:43:46pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

What’s amusing to me regarding the hatred of the present pope by the wingnuts is that popes have been criticizing income equality and capitialistic excesses for years now. Hell I think they were before the Russian revolution even. Point though is Francis is A) I think actually sincere with his criticism as he lives a pretty austere lifestyle and B) he finds poverty and inequality much more offensive than gay people and abortion.

Yes, the Church has addressed poverty and capitalism starting in 1891 with Pope Leo’s encyclical Rerum Norarum:

en.wikipedia.org

570 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:44:38pm

re: #566 No Country For Old Haters

Which is weird since most of the people they label “socialists” are actually liberal or progressive. Sanders may be the only actual socialist they’ve ever seen.

At the very least, I hope he can show people that socialist isn’t the boogeyman they make them out to be. He’s got a tough road ahead of him but I really hope he can put an end to A) mixing up liberalism/progressivism with socialism and B) be a good voice for the issues he considers important.

571 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:45:14pm

re: #570 HappyWarrior

At the very least, I hope he can show people that socialist isn’t the boogeyman they make them out to be. He’s got a tough road ahead of him but I really hope he can put an end to A) mixing up liberalism/progressivism with socialism and B) be a good voice for the issues he considers important.

Yeah, I agree with a lot of what he has to say.

572 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:45:27pm

re: #569 urbanmeemaw

Yes, the Church has addressed poverty and capitalism starting in 1891 with Pope Leo’s encyclical Rerum Norarum:

en.wikipedia.org

You’d get the plenary indulgence if you were 7 seconds faster.

573 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:45:42pm

re: #568 Decatur Deb

Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum.

“His encyclicals changed the Church’s relations with temporal authorities, and, in the 1891 encyclical Rerum novarum, for the first time addressed social inequality and social justice issues with Papal authority, focusing on the rights and duties of capital and labour. He was greatly influenced by Wilhelm Emmanuel von Ketteler, a German bishop who openly propagated siding with the suffering working classes in his book Die Arbeiterfrage und das Christentum. Since Leo XIII, Papal teachings have expanded on the rights and obligations of workers and the limitations of private property: Pope Pius XI Quadragesimo anno, the Social teachings of Pope Pius XII on a huge range of social issues, John XXIII Mater et magistra in 1961, Pope Paul VI, the encyclical Populorum progressio on world development issues, and Pope John Paul II, Centesimus annus, commemorating the 100th anniversary of Rerum novarum. Leo XIII had argued that both capitalism and communism are flawed. Rerum novarum introduced the idea of subsidiarity, the principle that political and social decisions should be taken at a local level, if possible, rather than by a central authority, into Catholic social thought. A list of all of Leo’s encyclicals can be found in the List of Encyclicals of Pope Leo XIII.”

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks DD. Knew it went quite far back. It really is nothing new to pontiffs to do what Francis is doing.

574 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:46:33pm

re: #571 No Country For Old Haters

Yeah, I agree with a lot of what he has to say.

I do too. And I appreciate that he’s a man of principle. He also to his credit does have some governing experience having been Burlington’s mayor.

575 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 2:46:44pm

“Fair Tax” is even more fucked up than you think==>

576 wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2015 2:47:24pm

Now appearing on Vine:

New expression: a Gowdy shrug.

577 TedStriker  Jun 16, 2015 2:47:32pm

re: #561 Odie Hugh Manatee

How about a slight revision? Have them each drink a double-dose of Syrup of Ipecac, put them all in a sealed room and then let them puke it out. Last man standing gets to clean up the mess.

That will make the event what these clowns are all about, a laugh.

…

578 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:47:41pm

Historically, various socialist factions have hated each other even more than they were hated by the capitalist enemies.

When a wingnut says “socialist”, he means “Stalinist commie GULAG 1000000000 dead”. Even though Sanders would have been shot in Stalin’s times as a Menshevik/Trotskyist/fascist.

579 EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2015 2:47:58pm

re: #564 HappyWarrior

It really is hard to do since socialist is such a bad word in the American political lexicon.

In the presidential election of 1912, the socialist candidate Eugene V. Debs got 6% of the popular vote from prison, an all time high for the Socialist Party of America.

The 16th amendment (income tax) and 17th amendment (direct election of senators) both passed in 1913.

I do not think this was merely a coincidence. Nor is it a coincidence that the 16th and 17th amendments are both targets of wingnut repeal fantasies.

580 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2015 2:49:17pm

Gun-Fuckers do not like The Donald==>

581 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:50:32pm

re: #578 Nyet

Historically, various socialist factions have hated each other even more than they were hated by the capitalist enemies.

When a wingnut says “socialist”, he means “Stalinist commie GULAG 1000000000 dead”. Even though Sanders would have been shot in Stalin’s times as a Menshevik/Trotskyist/fascist.

Right. Also the KPD called the SPD the Social Fascists even though the SPD were one of the most consistent enemies of the NSDAP. You’re right. Wingnuts say socialist, they’re trying to invoke images of Stalin/Gulags and also Mao Zedong too. By the way the differences within these socialist movements is something that’s always fascinated me. Same thing with fascism.

582 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2015 2:51:02pm

re: #580 The Vicious Babushka

Gun-Fuckers do not like The Donald==>

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583 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 2:51:16pm

re: #570 HappyWarrior

At the very least, I hope he can show people that socialist isn’t the boogeyman they make them out to be. He’s got a tough road ahead of him but I really hope he can put an end to A) mixing up liberalism/progressivism with socialism and B) be a good voice for the issues he considers important.

I want him to remind people of this:

(my new avatar. Getting a sticker for my Telecaster too.)

584 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:51:56pm

re: #580 The Vicious Babushka

Gun-Fuckers do not like The Donald==>

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There’s some words by Carson that pretty much support a more expansive health care reform than ACA was too. Not a defense of Donald but they’re going to be infinitely disappointed if they want to play that game. Hell after all Reagan was considered too lefty by the CA Democrats to run for office at one point.

585 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 2:53:17pm

re: #580 The Vicious Babushka

Gun-Fuckers do not like The Donald==>

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He’s toast. Already.

586 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 2:53:23pm

re: #581 HappyWarrior

Right. Also the KPD called the SPD the Social Fascists even though the SPD were one of the most consistent enemies of the NSDAP. You’re right. Wingnuts say socialist, they’re trying to invoke images of Stalin/Gulags and also Mao Zedong too. By the way the differences within these socialist movements is something that’s always fascinated me. Same thing with fascism.

We’ve often been worse enemies to ourselves than the bosses are to us.

587 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:54:20pm

re: #586 William Lewis

We’ve often been worse enemies to ourselves than the bosses are to us.

It’s a shame really. I think that was what disillusioned Orwell.

588 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 2:54:56pm

re: #587 HappyWarrior

It’s a shame really. I think that was what disillusioned Orwell.

Wingnuts of course love Orwell. They don’t have a clue…

589 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 2:56:19pm

re: #587 HappyWarrior

It’s a shame really. I think that was what disillusioned Orwell.

imdb.com

590 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 2:56:37pm

re: #576 wrenchwench

Now appearing on Vine:

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New expression: a Gowdy shrug.

Fuck, they missed the can toss!

591 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:57:09pm

re: #588 Nyet

Wingnuts of course love Orwell. They don’t have a clue…

Yeah he was a lefty until the end. Been a while but Snowball was definitely Trotsky right? I have to say when I was younger, I thought the same naivete that many of the Trotsykites did but as I’ve learned more, I’ve realized that was wrong. Conversely, I realized that Kerensky wasn’t all that either but he’s still someone I would like to learn more about. A lot of Americans I imagine think the revolution that got the Bolsheviks into power is the one that overthrew the Romanovs. A lot aren’t aware that there were two revolutions in 1917.

592 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 2:57:52pm

re: #589 Decatur Deb

imdb.com

thanks. I’ll have to look for that. I saw a film directed by that same director- The Wind That Shakes the Barley which I thought was excellent.

593 #FergusonFireside  Jun 16, 2015 2:58:05pm

re: #580 The Vicious Babushka

Gun-Fuckers do not like The Donald==>

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But he said a gun on every table!

594 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 16, 2015 2:58:42pm

re: #565 EPR-radar

It is disturbing that this event would be substantially less toxic than the real-life 2016 GOP primary.

I didn’t think of it that way but damn, you are right. Maybe the Republican party needs to change their symbol from an elephant to the skull & crossbones (POISON!).

Truth in advertising and all that… ;)

595 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 16, 2015 2:59:22pm

re: #577 TedStriker

That was exactly what came to mind when I read the WWE suggestion…lol!

596 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:00:17pm

re: #591 HappyWarrior

I was just thinking about Trotsky. He looks good in Stalin’s “light”, also because of the Dewey commission, but he wasn’t really better.

I once read through a thick chronology of the SR trial (still have a couple of volumes about it). It was the first (or one of the first) such shameful show trial(s), and Trotsky had a hand in it, as did the rest of Stalin’s future victims.

597 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:00:21pm

I also have to say as a student of Russian history, I have no sympathy for Czar Nicholas at all. His wife, daughters, and son, yes but the czar himself, nyet.

598 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 3:00:29pm

re: #588 Nyet

Wingnuts of course love Orwell. They don’t have a clue…

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

And the rest better run from Spain, alas…

599 urbanmeemaw  Jun 16, 2015 3:01:44pm

re: #382 Kid A

Good old Indyklanna!

600 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 16, 2015 3:01:53pm

re: #368 Lidane

Let’s make sure a fund is established so if Hills wins he’ll have no choice but to honor his words if he’s a man of his word.
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601 Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2015 3:02:00pm

re: #573 HappyWarrior

Thanks DD. Knew it went quite far back. It really is nothing new to pontiffs to do what Francis is doing.

This fellow, cited in the wiki, founded the commie nuns who taught us.

en.wikipedia.org

602 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:02:04pm

re: #596 Nyet

I was just thinking about Trotsky. He looks good in Stalin’s “light”, also because of the Dewey commission, but he wasn’t really better.

I once read through a thick chronology of the SR trial (still have a couple of volumes about it). It was the first (or one of the first) such shameful show trials, and Trotsky had a hand in it, as did the test of Stalin’s future victims.

I think part of the reason why Trotsky gets romanticized is actually much the same that we in America have with Jack Kennedy and LBJ. People think “Oh what could have been?” But yeah Trotsky wasn’t much better. The only real positive difference I can think of with Trosky is that Trotsky wouldn’t have bought Hitler as a potential ally.

603 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:02:14pm

re: #597 HappyWarrior

I also have to say as a student of Russian history, I have no sympathy for Czar Nicholas at all. His wife, daughters, and son, yes but the czar himself, nyet.

True, that.

604 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:03:21pm

re: #601 Decatur Deb

This fellow, cited in the wiki, founded the commie nuns who taught us.

en.wikipedia.org

Cool I’ve never heard of him before, thanks. Catholicism’s relationship with the workers movements is definitely an interesting subject.

605 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:05:46pm

re: #603 Nyet

True, that.

Yeah remember that paper I was telling you about a few years ago? The lack of sympathy for his Jewish subjects while the pogromskii were attacking them simply for being Jews disgusted me. I was actually surprised to see that his father, Alexander III was more horrified by Anti-Semitism than Nicholas II was. I do feel bad for the czarina, the girls, and czarvitch because they did not make policy and the girls/czarivitch were children too. Not saying I would have executed Nick but I would have definitely supported imprisonment.

606 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:09:33pm

re: #605 HappyWarrior

There was a good reason he was called “Bloody” (and not even because of the pogroms…).

607 De Kolta Chair  Jun 16, 2015 3:11:04pm

re: #538 Lidane

I’m seeing people commenting on other sites about how Trump isn’t beholden to “the special interests” and because he’s a billionaire who can pay his own way, he’s a straight shooter who tells it like it is and says all the things they want to hear.

That naive comment always cracks me up. Folks who claim that billionaire politicians aren’t beholden to their fellow rich never taken into account that most of them got to be billionaires in the first place by being beholden to their fellow rich.

608 William Lewis  Jun 16, 2015 3:12:06pm

re: #605 HappyWarrior

Yeah remember that paper I was telling you about a few years ago? The lack of sympathy for his Jewish subjects while the pogromskii were attacking them simply for being Jews disgusted me. I was actually surprised to see that his father, Alexander III was more horrified by Anti-Semitism than Nicholas II was. I do feel bad for the czarina, the girls, and czarvitch because they did not make policy and the girls/czarivitch were children too. Not saying I would have executed Nick but I would have definitely supported imprisonment.

I’d have traded him to King George for a serious pile of weapons/ammo for the Red Army. And then the same with each of the rest. Could have made the war against the Whites easier as well as giving said Whites the hint that leaving Russia was the better part of valor (which many did eventually but with much more blood spilt).

609 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:12:36pm

re: #606 Nyet

There was a good reason he was called “Bloody” (and not even because of the pogroms…).

Yeah there’s how the protesters were handled during the events that led up to the 1905 Revolution. I remember reading that many of them were even bearing signs that had the czar’s image on them. They thought and were sadly mistaken that he’d sympathize with them.

610 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:14:51pm

re: #608 William Lewis

I’d have traded him to King George for a serious pile of weapons/ammo for the Red Army. And then the same with each of the rest. Could have made the war against the Whites easier as well as giving said Whites the hint that leaving Russia was the better part of valor (which many did eventually but with much more blood spilt).

From what I understand and maybe Sergey can help me out here but I heard George turned down his cousin because he felt his presence in the UK would cause uprest there. That is an interesting what if though. I’ve always been bothered in the dramatizations of the Anastasia myth that he’s painted as this benevolent leader who was beloved by his subjects before the Bolsheviks ruined everything.

611 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:16:36pm

re: #610 HappyWarrior

And like, everybody forgets that the monarchy didn’t end in October…

612 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:17:36pm

re: #611 Nyet

And like, everybody forgets that the monarchy didn’t end in October…

They still have claimants right?

613 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:19:23pm

re: #612 HappyWarrior

They still have claimants right?

I meant, it ended in February.

And yes, there are “claimants”. The less said about them, the better.

614 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 3:20:22pm

re: #613 Nyet

I meant, it ended in February.

And yes, there are “claimants”. The less said about them, the better.

OK, actually in March.

615 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 3:22:29pm

re: #613 Nyet

I meant, it ended in February.

And yes, there are “claimants”. The less said about them, the better.

Oh yeah. That just blows my mind but then again I did hear that in one of the Eastern European countries. Maybe Bulgaria? I think the grandson of the last king was elected PM or something like that. It’s the American in me for sure but I’ve never gotten affinity for the monarchy and I’ve met only a handful of actual monarchists in my life. The one I did meet was a British one who was a Jacobite sympathizer and I made the mistake of calling him a Jacobian which as you know is anything but monarchical in political orientation.

616 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2015 3:23:43pm
617 dell*nix  Jun 16, 2015 4:14:36pm

re: #415 Targetpractice

The F-102 was based in Thailand and South Viet Nam. At Udorn the F-102 alert birds sat alert right in front of our T-28 area. I worked on F-102s at Perrin AFB in 1968. It was less than a joy to service in the cursury area.

aerospaceweb.org

618 sagehen  Jun 16, 2015 4:24:24pm

re: #567 HappyWarrior

I still say his name should have been that of an villain in a dramatization about the Civil War. I mean Jefferson as in Jefferson Davis, president of the CSA, Beauregard as in Beauregard who was the commander of the troops that fired on Fort Sumter, and Sessions which sounds almost like secession. The only thing more comical would be if he were a staunch liberal.

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is such an over-the-top racist that in 1985, THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION said he was too racist for the judicial appointment he wanted.

619 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 16, 2015 5:05:02pm

re: #546 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Norquist should be called out for what he is-a neo-anarchist/anti-government troll. Who/how he manages to stay in business is amazing. Glenn Beck attacks Norqusit over the fact that his wife practices the Isalmic faith (it was just as bad when Phill Gramm (who I loathe) ran for president and some slack-jawed yokel shouted out that “he’s married to a gook!”)

Seems like we gots a way to go…..

620 Joe Bacon  Jun 16, 2015 5:51:33pm

It’s no longer the GOP Clown Car…

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