Overnight Podcast: The Bob & Chez Show, 6/16/15

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In tonight’s episode of the Bob & Chez Show, Donald Trump embarrasses America in front of the whole world. But I guess we should be used to that by now, with the creationists, climate change deniers and assorted anti-science reactionary throwbacks who run the GOP.

Shooting Skeet: Donald Trump is Officially Running for President; The Clown Car Has a Driver; Trump’s Announcement Speech; Lindsey Graham Shooting Skeet; Crazy California Politician Blames Drought on Abortion; God is an A-hole; Ben Carson is the Frontrunner; The Rachel Dolezal Controversy; Alex Jones Rants About Hillary’s Voice; and much more.

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1 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:00:16pm

Refreshing lots for the Warriors score. Can they hold on?

/in before cries of riots in Oakland.

2 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:01:04pm

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Firework type noises says maybe they did.

3 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:01:14pm

A noble attempt by Lebron to carry the team forward, but the poor man was just gassed tonight. Congratulations to the Warriors. Condolences to Cleveland, who will still have the memory of Jim Brown’s 1964 Browns as their last championship team (if they were born yet).

4 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:01:49pm

re: #3 austin_blue

Damn Google’s time delay!

5 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:03:41pm

re: #4 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Damn Google’s time delay!

Oh, I thought you were distracted by Allegro’s release of the girls…

(I know all of the boys were)

6 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:04:26pm

re: #5 austin_blue

Oh, I thought you were distracted by Allegro’s release of the girls…

Haha, I have my own. No need for someone else’s.

7 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:05:41pm

re: #5 austin_blue

However, figuring out how to turn on the TV when the touchscreen on the universal remote has gotten cracked …that might be beyond what I’m up to doing tonight.

8 freetoken  Jun 16, 2015 9:08:30pm

Creeping towards officiality:

John Kasich, Ohio’s Republican Rebel, Nears Run for President

I guess what makes Kasich a “rebel” is that he’s not on the Obama-is-a-Kenyan-Communist-Muslim train.

9 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:09:36pm

re: #7 klys (maker of Silmarils)

However, figuring out how to turn on the TV when the touchscreen on the universal remote has gotten cracked …that might be beyond what I’m up to doing tonight.

Here’s my focus tonight:

radar.weather.gov

Just what we need. A very slow moving rain bomb coming into Central Texas.

<sigh>

More idiots believing that their Hummers, Tahoes, and Suburbans will get through that low water crossing because it as *really* expensive and weighs a lot…

10 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:10:32pm

re: #9 austin_blue

Here’s my focus tonight:

radar.weather.gov

Just what we need. A very slow moving rain bomb coming into Central Texas.

<sigh>

More idiots believing that their Hummers, Tahoes, and Suburbans will get through that low water crossing because it as *really* expensive and weighs a lot…

Send it here. We need it.

11 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:14:42pm

re: #5 austin_blue

Oh, I thought you were distracted by Allegro’s release of the girls…

(I know all of the boys were)

LOL!

12 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:18:04pm

re: #9 austin_blue

Here’s my focus tonight:

radar.weather.gov

Just what we need. A very slow moving rain bomb coming into Central Texas.

<sigh>

More idiots believing that their Hummers, Tahoes, and Suburbans will get through that low water crossing because it as *really* expensive and weighs a lot…

Hopefully you won’t get more than we have in Houston. Good drenching but thus far free from any dangerous flooding.

13 freetoken  Jun 16, 2015 9:19:00pm

re: #9 austin_blue

Bill is bringing lots of rain to lots of people:

radar.weather.gov

14 piratedan  Jun 16, 2015 9:20:12pm

stuff like this….

abcactionnews.com

well it still makes me think that there’s hope for us as a people

15 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:22:21pm

re: #14 piratedan

stuff like this….

abcactionnews.com

well it still makes me think that there’s hope for us as a people

That is just too cool. I remember when I was a kid, I left my favorite stuffed animal at the beach and I thought I’d never see it again but somehow it was found. I still have him and plan to give him to one of my children if I have kids.

16 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 9:24:48pm

Congrats to the Golden State Warriors, NBA Champs!

Steph Curry is one of the most cold-blooded shooters I’ve ever seen. And it’s great to see Andre Iguodala get Finals MVP. Well deserved.

And it must hurt Mark Jackson’s heart to have called this series - it could have been him in the coach’s seat, and he’s watching it from the broadcast booth.

17 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:26:13pm

re: #16 makeitstop

18 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:27:10pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Congrats to the Golden State Warriors, NBA Champs!

Steph Curry is one of the most cold-blooded shooters I’ve ever seen. And it’s great to see Andre Iguodala get Fianls MVP. Well deserved.

And it must hurt Mark Jackson’s heart to have called this series - it could have been him in the coach’s seat, and he’s watching it from the broadcast booth.

I’m not sorry to see the team that beat my Rockets win the championship. I still wish Curry had gotten a cramp to give the Rockets a go at it.

19 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 9:28:03pm
20 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:28:34pm

Curry is a hell of a player. Cavs will be back but man yet another loss in a championship for Cleveland. Longest run without a championship of any American city except San Diego.

21 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:28:47pm

re: #18 allegro

I’m not sorry to see the team that beat my Rockets win the championship. I still wish Curry had gotten a cramp to give the Rockets a go at it.

I confess my sports-glee moment of the year was when the Kings didn’t make the playoffs. And then the Rangers didn’t make the finals.

As a Devils/Sharks fan, that was the best I could do.

22 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:30:03pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Curry is a hell of a player. Cavs will be back but man yet another loss in a championship for Cleveland. Longest run without a championship of any American city except San Diego.

Curry is super human.

23 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:30:33pm

re: #19 Kragar

[Embedded content]

MRAs are some of the whinest douchebags there is. Feminists have legitimate gripes like being treated like men are entitled to have sex with women, that pay inequality thing. MRAs otoh don’t like that women have any sort of equality.

24 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:31:43pm

re: #22 allegro

Curry is super human.

He is just that good. Really hoping my Wizards build on this year. I think they could have played Lebron and friends for the East finals if Wall had not been hurt. They’re the only DC team I root for but I do like Wall, Brad Beal, Gortat, and those guys.

25 makeitstop  Jun 16, 2015 9:32:32pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Curry is a hell of a player. Cavs will be back but man yet another loss in a championship for Cleveland. Longest run without a championship of any American city except San Diego.

Phil Jackson looks like a pretty smart GM for trading away Shumpert and JR Smith. They both completely disappeared in this series.

The Cavs looked like Melo’s Knicks out there tonight. They had a good run, but injuries hit at the worst possible time. Bron could only carry them so far.

26 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:33:03pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

MRAs are some of the whinest douchebags there is. Feminists have legitimate gripes like being treated like men are entitled to have sex with women, that pay inequality thing. MRAs otoh don’t like that women have any sort of equality.

MRAs are just looking for scapegoats for their own failures and weaknesses. Kinda like Republicans.

27 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:33:35pm

re: #25 makeitstop

Phil Jackson looks like a pretty smart GM for trading away Shumpert and JR Smith. They both completely disappeared in this series.

The Cavs looked like Melo’s Knicks out there tonight. They had a good run, but injuries hit at the worst possible time. Bron could only carry them so far.

It still is a team game when it comes down to it. That said I look forward seeing what the Cavs can do next year.

28 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:33:39pm

Sharing this for the wow factor.

29 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:33:54pm

re: #26 allegro

MRAs are just looking for scapegoats for their own failures and weaknesses. Kinda like Republicans.

Exactly.

30 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:34:09pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sharing this for the wow factor.

[Embedded content]

Na na na na cakeman!

31 Kragar  Jun 16, 2015 9:34:20pm

…

32 Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2015 9:36:56pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sharing this for the wow factor.

[Embedded content]

It’s the cake we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

33 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:37:21pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sharing this for the wow factor.

[Embedded content]

Forget the design. I’m impressed with anyone who can make a layer cake look like an earthquake didn’t happen to it. And is more than like 2” tall.

No, I don’t bake. Why do you ask?

34 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:37:29pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

It’s the cake we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

True.

What we really need is pie.

Thankfully tomorrow is Thursday.

35 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:37:53pm

re: #33 allegro

Forget the design. I’m impressed with anyone who can make a layer cake look like an earthquake didn’t happen to it. And is more than like 2” tall.

No, I don’t bake. Why do you ask?

I think fondant covers a lot of sins.

36 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:38:15pm

I’m hungry for cake now and it’s 12:40 AM here. Thanks assholes lol.

37 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:38:29pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I’m hungry for cake now and it’s 12:40 AM here. Thanks assholes lol.

>.>

38 Dark_Falcon  Jun 16, 2015 9:38:38pm

re: #26 allegro

MRAs are just looking for scapegoats for their own failures and weaknesses. Kinda like Republicans.

There’s a difference: Republicans want to get actual things done, like trade promotion authority and the budget. MRAs just want to hate on women.

39 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:39:10pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Citation needed.

/

40 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:39:31pm

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think fondant covers a lot of sins.

Then my sins are unforgivable.

41 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:39:50pm

re: #40 allegro

Then my sins are unforgivable.

Hooray, I have company!

42 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:39:58pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference: Republicans want to get actual things done, like trade promotion authority and the budget. MRAs just want to hate on women.

The repeated ACA repeals while its signer still resides in the Oval House tells me otherwise.

43 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:40:40pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

>.>

Heh you know I kid. I can’t complain though. I did get some delicious cookies tonight as a gift from a family of one of my brother’s friends.

44 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:40:58pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference: Republicans want to get actual things done, like trade promotion authority and the budget. MRAs just want to hate on women.

Ummmmmm….. sorry. The facts tell a real different story.

45 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:43:25pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Heh you know I kid. I can’t complain though. I did get some delicious cookies tonight as a gift from a family of one of my brother’s friends.

I notice that you haven’t offered to share and I pout.

46 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:43:48pm

re: #34 klys (maker of Silmarils)

True.

What we really need is pie.

Thankfully tomorrow is Thursday.

Umm…really?

(checks calendar, mumbles)

47 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:44:16pm

re: #46 austin_blue

Umm…really?

(checks calendar, mumbles)

It’s ok, I only know because Friday’s appointment hasn’t show up on my tomorrow list quite yet.

48 Dark_Falcon  Jun 16, 2015 9:44:49pm

re: #44 allegro

Ummmmmm….. sorry. The facts tell a real different story.

Then why did Paul Ryan and Steve Scalise work so hard lining up votes after the president asked for Trade Promotion Authority?

49 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:44:56pm

re: #45 allegro

I notice that you haven’t offered to share and I pout.

Oh please by all means.

50 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:46:49pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s ok, I only know because Friday’s appointment hasn’t show up on my tomorrow list quite yet.

I guess this wasn’t a good week to quit sniffing glue…

51 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:47:14pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Then why did Paul Ryan and Steve Scalise work so hard lining up votes after the president asked for Trade Promotion Authority?

That’s a really good question. I would like to hear your thoughts on the reasons.

52 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:47:35pm

re: #50 austin_blue

I guess this wasn’t a good week to quit sniffing glue…

There is a good week?

53 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:47:54pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Oh please by all means.

:D

54 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 9:49:12pm

re: #7 klys (maker of Silmarils)

However, figuring out how to turn on the TV when the touchscreen on the universal remote has gotten cracked …that might be beyond what I’m up to doing tonight.

Well, all of my Time Warner dilemmas are finally solved. Only took 3 days, 7 techs and few “duh” moments. First, figured out that the installer had connected the cable by BOTH coaxial and HDMI—first set of techs got it to the point where I could change channels on the cable box, but not with the remote. Today’s tech finally solved that problem and now the remote works. Then it was on to the digital phone. Took a few days for them to port it over from Frontier to TWC, but then the voicemail wouldn’t set up. Then, I could make outgoing calls but not receive incoming, and with no voicemail, so it just rang when people called it, but didn’t ring here. The “duh” moment was when he figured out that the phone was still connected to the wall phone jack instead of the modem. So, everything works, at least for now.

Have to say, the TWC phone techs are really nice, and kind of funny—AND they are US-based. Yesterday afternoon’s tech and I got into a politics conversation (he’s a Dem) that went on for quite a while, until he remembered that they record calls! (I told him to tell them he was talking to a lunatic and there was nothing he could do but be polite.)

55 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:49:50pm

re: #52 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There is a good week?

<sigh>

It’s *always* “next week”.

56 Dark_Falcon  Jun 16, 2015 9:52:40pm

re: #51 allegro

That’s a really good question. I would like to hear your thoughts on the reasons.

I think it because the Republican Party favors free trade and when the president decided he wanted such an agreement the Congressional leadership decided that it would be a “win all could share” if the agreement put into place.

As it stands now, its more likely to be a defeat for all, since the political collision that has paralyzed the House on this matter.

57 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:53:21pm

re: #54 BeachDem

Well, all of my Time Warner dilemmas are finally solved. Only took 3 days, 7 techs and few “duh” moments. First, figured out that the installer had connected the cable by BOTH coaxial and HDMI—first set of techs got it to the point where I could change channels on the cable box, but not with the remote. Today’s tech finally solved that problem and now the remote works. Then it was on to the digital phone. Took a few days for them to port it over from Frontier to TWC, but then the voicemail wouldn’t set up. Then, I could make outgoing calls but not receive incoming, and with no voicemail, so it just rang when people called it, but didn’t ring here. The “duh” moment was when he figured out that the phone was still connected to the wall phone jack instead of the modem. So, everything works, at least for now.

Have to say, the TWC phone techs are really nice, and kind of funny—AND they are US-based. Yesterday afternoon’s tech and I got into a politics conversation (he’s a Dem) that went on for quite a while, until he remembered that they record calls! (I told him to tell them he was talking to a lunatic and there was nothing he could do but be polite.)

Oh holy hell, I woulda been standing out in that courtyard for days waiting for that answer. LOL Sorry about missing the pizza and wine party though.

58 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:54:52pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

I think it because the Republican Party favors free trade and when the president decided he wanted such an agreement the Congressional leadership decided that it would be a “win all could share” if the agreement put into place.

As it stands now, its more likely to be a defeat for all, since the political collision that has paralyzed the House on this matter.

Fair but what do you make of the attempts to repeatedly repeal ACA while he’s been in office? They know he’s not going to sign a repeal and furthermore they know they don’t have enough to overturn a veto. I could understand one symbolic repeal but not the 100+ they have done since the USSC affirmed ACA’s constitutionality. And whether you want to admit it or not, your party’s leadership has behaved a lot more like that then they did during the fast track with China deal throughout this president’s presidency.

59 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2015 9:56:45pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OH look who can’t read a calendar tomorrow is Wednesday no pie. :(

Unless VB takes pity on us all.

60 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 9:57:59pm

Aaand… the Flash Flood Warning just got issued for Travis County and Austin.

Really, fate, have mercy. We’ve had enough in CenTex. We still haven’t found the bodies of two children who were washed away Memorial Day weekend south of town.

Can we please recover our dead babies before you hit us in the mouth again?

Just asking…

61 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:03pm

I also don’t appreciate a Republican presidential candidate (Walker) stirring up shit by claiming that the British PM told him that he distrusts the President of the United States and then for that PM to call out that official out as pretty much a liar. Really shitty thing to do on Walker’s part. He should know how important our relationship with the Brits is and yet he was playing a pathetic partisan game. The irony of course is PM Cameron probably has more in common with President Obama than he does with his American conservative counterparts.

62 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:24pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

I think it because the Republican Party favors free trade and when the president decided he wanted such an agreement the Congressional leadership decided that it would be a “win all could share” if the agreement put into place.

As it stands now, its more likely to be a defeat for all, since the political collision that has paralyzed the House on this matter.

Since we don’t know what was in that treaty, we can’t know if it was win or lose for anyone. That it may forever be a mystery because of gamesmanship may be the lose.

63 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 9:58:26pm

re: #57 allegro

Oh holy hell, I woulda been standing out in that courtyard for days waiting for that answer. LOL Sorry about missing the pizza and wine party though.

A lot of wine was had over the weekend just out of frustration. I had to give up on my neighbors, as whenever I said “Time Warner” they just shrugged their shoulders and went inside.

Crap—my Hillary intern is now coming THIS Sunday instead of next—I have to really get serious about cleaning my place, and it’s so damn hot, I don’t know if I can handle it. But I’m looking forward to hosting, as I describe it “the granddaughter I never had.” (at first I said “daughter,” but then realized, holy fuck, I’m really old and she would be the right age for a granddaughter.)

64 Nyet  Jun 16, 2015 10:02:32pm

The funny thing about MRA is how very beta the whole concept is.

:)

65 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:24pm

re: #64 Nyet

The funny thing about MRA is how very beta the whole concept is.

:)

Excellents snark! Kinda like how Christians are being persecuted in the US.

66 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:50pm

re: #64 Nyet

The funny thing about MRA is how very beta the whole concept is.

:)

I always and I hate playing the “real man” card but it always struck me as incredibly unmanly. I make no bones about it. I am a man and I am a feminist. Women wanting to be treated as equals does not bother me at all because if I were a woman, I too would want to be treated as an equal and I would also be aware of generations of women being second class citizens. Hell I may be only a “kid” by LGF standards but I am also fairly old enough to have had a grandparent who was of sound age when women got suffrage in this country.

67 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:04:57pm

re: #63 BeachDem

A lot of wine was had over the weekend just out of frustration. I had to give up on my neighbors, as whenever I said “Time Warner” they just shrugged their shoulders and went inside.

Crap—my Hillary intern is now coming THIS Sunday instead of next—I have to really get serious about cleaning my place, and it’s so damn hot, I don’t know if I can handle it. But I’m looking forward to hosting, as I describe it “the granddaughter I never had.” (at first I said “daughter,” but then realized, holy fuck, I’m really old and she would be the right age for a granddaughter.)

Oh don’t even go there. My best friend’s 23 year old grandson recently referred to me as his second grandma and I damn near slapped him. Seriously, it freaked me the fuck out.

68 teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2015 10:05:17pm

I’ve got the good people of central Texas in my thoughts tonight. And the assholes, too. I’m a nice guy.

69 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:05:28pm

re: #65 austin_blue

Excellents snark! Kinda like how Christians are being persecuted in the US.

Those idiots think being wished a Happy Holidays is persecution. A normal person would appreciate that someone is wishing them well on the holidays.

70 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:06:11pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

I’ve got the good people of central Texas in my thoughts tonight. And the assholes, too. I’m a nice guy.

Was there a tornado or something? But yes even the assholes get my thoughts in times like those and I hope even though their representatives opposed aid for victims of Sandy that they do get aid.

71 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 10:08:12pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Was there a tornado or something? But yes even the assholes get my thoughts in times like those and I hope even though their representatives opposed aid for victims of Sandy that they do get aid.

Another rain bomb:

radar.weather.gov

72 teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2015 10:08:38pm
73 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:09:50pm

re: #71 austin_blue

Another rain bomb:

radar.weather.gov

Ah damn. We don’t get really much natural disasters here fortunately. Hope everyone stays safe.

74 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:09:57pm

re: #64 Nyet

The funny thing about MRA is how very beta the whole concept is.

:)

It actually is. An alpha man wants an alpha woman, if being remotely true to the wildlife concept it is based on, even though that concept is false.

75 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 10:14:06pm

re: #74 allegro

It actually is. An alpha man wants an alpha woman, if being remotely true to the wildlife concept it is based on, even though that concept is false.

A real man wants a woman who he loves, who loves him, and who he bends over backwards to make happy.

Anything else is rubbish.

76 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:16:11pm

re: #75 austin_blue

A real man wants a woman who he loves, who loves him, and who he bends over backwards to make happy.

Anything else is rubbish.

Oh there you go, talking reality and shit.

77 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 10:19:23pm

re: #67 allegro

Oh don’t even go there. My best friend’s 23 year old grandson recently referred to me as his second grandma and I damn near slapped him. Seriously, it freaked me the fuck out.

Yep—my intern describes herself as “almost 23.” When you get to be my age, you cling to the old # until 11:59:59 the eve before each birthday!

And I just found out that I’ll be traveling for work from September 11 to November 22, except for 23 days of breaks (one 10 days, one 5 days, one 8 days.) I’m ready to knock off the traveling part of work, but one of my main bosses/clients, who is even older than I am, isn’t ready to stop going after these big contracts, so I’ll be on the road again. Good money, if it doesn’t kill me.

78 HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2015 10:25:10pm

Age is a funny thing. My 3 year gap between my middle brother I felt bigger when we were kids but it feels much closer now that we’re in our mid to late 20’s now and hell sometimes it almost feels as if he’s older since he’s already got a wife and kid. Even had some parents of our other brother think that he was in fact the older brother because of that I think.

79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 10:28:16pm

re: #67 allegro

Oh don’t even go there. My best friend’s 23 year old grandson recently referred to me as his second grandma and I damn near slapped him. Seriously, it freaked me the fuck out.

My grand-niece just graduated high school. It occurred to me last month that my youngest students at my university in China are only a year older than she is.

Based on that information, I have way more “grandchildren” than even Alouette!

80 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 10:30:40pm

re: #77 BeachDem

Yep—my intern describes herself as “almost 23.” When you get to be my age, you cling to the old # until 11:59:59 the eve before each birthday!

And I just found out that I’ll be traveling for work from September 11 to November 22, except for 23 days of breaks (one 10 days, one 5 days, one 8 days.) I’m ready to knock off the traveling part of work, but one of my main bosses/clients, who is even older than I am, isn’t ready to stop going after these big contracts, so I’ll be on the road again. Good money, if it doesn’t kill me.

My eldest cuz is 69, and still does consulting work all over the place. He’s a CPA with corporate experience, and he’s in demand.

81 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:39:57pm

I think because I didn’t reproduce I have no concept of age really. I never became a necessarily authoritarian mom so my grad students, those I was always closest to, were my equals in all but experience. They would be deferential at the beginning but soon got over it. LOL I lead the team but always saw it as that, a team.

82 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 10:41:18pm

re: #80 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My eldest cuz is 69, and still does consulting work all over the place. He’s a CPA with corporate experience, and he’s in demand.

I don’t mind the traveling part. It’s once I get there, the days are generally 16-17 hours long, and it’s usually 8-9 days straight without a break.

83 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 10:41:20pm

re: #77 BeachDem

I had to explain to my classmates something about on of the Lethal Weapon movies, but then I realized they were from before these kids were born. Another time one of them was tired and didn’t want to go to the bar, and another says “What are you 50?”
Final insult was when a bartender asked if I was their professor.

84 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:42:58pm

re: #83 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I had to explain to my classmates something about on of the Lethal Weapon movies, but then I realized they were from before these kids were born. Another time one of them was tired and didn’t want to go to the bar, and another says “What are you 50?”
Final insult was when a bartender asked if I was their professor.

Ouuuuuuch! LOL

85 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 10:45:47pm

I think the school recruited some of us old timers (I was the oldest) to set an example for the kids. They largely ignored us, and about 40% of the class failed out. All but one of us s=old schoolers made it. Well, I’ll make it qt the end of the month.

86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 10:46:06pm

Just because it’s a cute photo:

Up, up and away!!

Via one of my students (not pictured).

87 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 10:47:50pm

re: #80 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My eldest cuz is 69, and still does consulting work all over the place. He’s a CPA with corporate experience, and he’s in demand.

One of my bestest friends is 79. Known him since I was 27. Freaks me out to have a 79 year old best fried.

88 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 10:49:18pm

re: #81 allegro

I think because I didn’t reproduce I have no concept of age really. I never became a necessarily authoritarian mom so my grad students, those I was always closest to, were my equals in all but experience. They would be deferential at the beginning but soon got over it. LOL I lead the team but always saw it as that, a team.

When I taught some college classes, I was in my early 40s, and I felt SO much older than my students at first. But some of the kids were in a band, and I went to some of their shows (even wrote a couple of songs for them) and felt much closer in age.

I’m actually more comfortable around younger people than around most of my contemporaries. Although, most of my same-age friends are very political, as I am, and I think it keeps us younger and more “in the game.”

89 austin_blue  Jun 16, 2015 10:49:40pm

Hey hey!

Looks like we’ll get lucky.

A bit of high pressure is digging in from the west and the center of circulation in the storm is passing us to the east.

Instead of the 4 to 6” we were expecting it looks like it will be 1 to 2”:

radar.weather.gov

This is good for us in Austin. Sucks to be between us and Waco, though. They are going to get it in the neck.

And that’s it for me tonight.

Sleep well and be safe, dear friends.

90 BeachDem  Jun 16, 2015 10:51:13pm

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Just because it’s a cute photo:

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Via one of my students (not pictured).

As Tom and Lorenzo would say, “Adorbs!”

92 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 10:59:43pm

re: #87 allegro

One of my bestest friends is 79. Known him since I was 27. Freaks me out to have a 79 year old best fried.

My best friend is 22. Don’t know why, but she’s the only person I really trust. Her parents are shitting because they think there’s hanky panky going on!

93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 11:02:26pm

re: #90 BeachDem

As Tom and Lorenzo would say, “Adorbs!”

They get special praise for being so synchronized. Usually, shots like this fail because someone has slow reflexes or poor jumping skills.

There was a Japanese photog doing “levitation” shots a few years back, YowaYowa, but she’s not posted anything recently on her blog. Here’s some samples I have.

They aren’t ‘shopped. She has a camera on a tripod and keeps jumping ‘til it looks right. There’s one I don’t have here that looks like she’s flying alongside a skyscraper.

94 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 16, 2015 11:05:02pm

re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Of the various athletic feats, I always felt that jumping was the most remarkable. Maybe because I could, about a hundred pounds ago.

95 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 11:06:13pm

re: #88 BeachDem

When I taught some college classes, I was in my early 40s, and I felt SO much older than my students at first. But some of the kids were in a band, and I went to some of their shows (even wrote a couple of songs for them) and felt much closer in age.

I’m actually more comfortable around younger people than around most of my contemporaries. Although, most of my same-age friends are very political, as I am, and I think it keeps us younger and more “in the game.”

Heh. I’ve spent so many years teaching teenagers and 20-somethings that I feel more in tune with them than with people my own age. I keep forgetting that, on first sight, I look like a grandpa and new students will tend to be deferential or timid around me when I don’t want them to be.

Really, I am just a 25-year-old in a 1950s chassis.

96 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 11:19:01pm

re:

97 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 11:19:30pm

re: #95 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Heh. I’ve spent so many years teaching teenagers and 20-somethings that I feel more in tune with them than with people my own age. I keep forgetting that, on first sight, I look like a grandpa and new students will tend to be deferential or timid around me when I don’t want them to be.

Really, I am just a 25-year-old in a 1950s chassis.

This!

98 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 11:19:53pm

re: #96 allegro

I dunno what that was

99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2015 11:23:54pm

re: #98 allegro

I dunno what that was

a drop of golden sun

100 allegro  Jun 16, 2015 11:28:43pm

re: #92 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

My best friend is 22. Don’t know why, but she’s the only person I really trust. Her parents are shitting because they think there’s hanky panky going on!

It’s what she and you think that counts. Never give up a best friend. More special than a lover times 100.

101 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 1:01:47am
Andrew Getty, the grandson of billionaire oil tycoon J Paul Getty, died of an accidental gastrointestinal haemorrhage and also had a toxic level of methamphetamine in his system, according to official findings.

The drugs, a duodenal ulcer and heart disease contributed to the death of the 47-year-old heir to the Getty oil fortune, said the Los Angeles county coroner’s office.

…

Getty’s personal assistant told investigators that the heir had complained of stomach pain for the past two months and had been due to see a doctor on 1 April, the day after his body was discovered.

…

Getty’s on-again, off-again girlfriend, who found his body, told authorities that he took methamphetamine daily and the coroner’s report said testing found the level in his blood was in the “toxic range”.

I swear I just don’t fucking get people.

102 freetoken  Jun 17, 2015 1:30:57am

MP3 Audio

103 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 1:39:08am
105 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:10:56am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

a drop of golden sun

Doe a deer

106 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:11:45am

re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They get special praise for being so synchronized. Usually, shots like this fail because someone has slow reflexes or poor jumping skills.

There was a Japanese photog doing “levitation” shots a few years back, YowaYowa, but she’s not posted anything recently on her blog. Here’s some samples I have.

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They aren’t ‘shopped. She has a camera on a tripod and keeps jumping ‘til it looks right. There’s one I don’t have here that looks like she’s flying alongside a skyscraper.

she lost a hand in that last one.

107 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:13:44am

The ground is saturated. We have a lot of standing water and retention ponds where none are meant to be.

Did I mention Flash Flood Warnings?

108 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:15:42am

re: #88 BeachDem

When I taught some college classes, I was in my early 40s, and I felt SO much older than my students at first. But some of the kids were in a band, and I went to some of their shows (even wrote a couple of songs for them) and felt much closer in age.

I’m actually more comfortable around younger people than around most of my contemporaries. Although, most of my same-age friends are very political, as I am, and I think it keeps us younger and more “in the game.”

Me too. My contemporaries seem to be fading in to myth. Everything they do and think is a scam to put up a front. They were all virgins when they got married, never did any drugs or drove drunk. They don’t and have never used bad language or questioned the existance of the Almighty Reagan and the Shining City on the HIll.

I’m really freaking tired of it.

109 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 2:17:09am

Something ridiculously fucked up about this.

A psychiatrist who treated James Holmes described him Tuesday as an anxious, anti-social oddball who thought obsessively about killing people in the months before he opened fire in a crowded movie theater in the Denver suburbs, killing 12 and wounding 70.

Dr. Lynne Fenton testified before a packed courtroom that Holmes told her in March 2012 that he had “homicidal thoughts” — as often as three or four times a day. As his treatment progressed, he told her his obsession with killing was only getting worse.

And yet, Fenton told a jury there was little she could do because Holmes never talked about specifics. She couldn’t place him under a psychiatric hold because he never disclosed his intention to kill — even while he was acquiring weapons and “casing” a movie theater. And he never named a target, she testified.

…

Fenton first saw him on March 21, and tentatively diagnosed him with “social anxiety” and obsessive-compulsive disorder. At their first meeting, Holmes expressed “thoughts about killing people,” but Fenton said she didn’t think he was dangerous. She believed his preoccupation with killing others was a symptom of obsessive-compulsive disorder.

…

After their fourth session on April 17, she noted that he made several odd statements she didn’t understand and wrote in her notes, “psychotic level thinking?” He said his homicidal obsession was “getting worse.”

This psychiatrist got people killed with her pedantic bullshit. Allowing that guy the continued ability to purchase firearms was inexcusable.

110 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 2:19:32am

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

Me too. My contemporaries seem to be fading in to myth. Everything they do and think is a scam to put up a front. They were all virgins when they got married, never did any drugs or drove drunk. They don’t and have never used bad language or questioned the existance of the Almighty Reagan and the Shining City on the HIll.

I’m really freaking tired of it.

Selective memory loss. The good old days were always great, and these days are the shits, and today’s young people will lead the country into ruin.

The older generation has been saying stuff like this since we first invented language. Before that, they just grunted their disapproval.

Well, some still do.

111 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:21:58am

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

Something ridiculously fucked up about this.

This psychiatrist got people killed with her pedantic bullshit. Allowing that guy the continued ability to purchase firearms was inexcusable.

WEll, if she had reported him as her status as a mandated reporter, they probably wouldn’t have taken the report. She had no specifics.

And yes, the whole system of preventing sick or mentally unstable people from purchasing firearms is FUBAR. As far as I know, the law was passed, but with no teeth. No appropriations to establish policy or to provide procedures to law enforcement. No appropriations to property establish a database, monitor it’s applications and audit results.

There has been, however, tons of money poured into and out of the NRA to prevent anyone from having their firearms confiscated for any reason.

112 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 2:22:17am
113 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:22:39am

re: #110 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Selective memory loss. The good old days were always great, and these days are the shits, and today’s young people will lead the country into ruin.

The older generation has been saying stuff like this since we first invented language. Before that, they just grunted their disapproval.

Well, some still do.

But they seem to think they can remake themselves into saints.

*grr*

114 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 2:24:31am

re: #113 FemNaziBitch

But they seem to think they can remake themselves into saints.

*grr*

Oh, yeah, I know what you mean.

115 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:24:59am

Good response to the stolen sentiment I tweeted yesterday:

116 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:27:29am
117 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:31:17am

The GOP’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ Problem

Jeb Bush is learning that these laws repel minority voters.

No problem, they’ve been losing their voting rights for years now. Jeb isn’t sweating.

*grr*

118 William Lewis  Jun 17, 2015 2:31:34am

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

Something ridiculously fucked up about this.

This psychiatrist got people killed with her pedantic bullshit. Allowing that guy the continued ability to purchase firearms was inexcusable.

No specifics. Or shall we start locking up people for thought crimes?

119 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:32:57am

Elephants Enjoy Classical Music (VIDEO)

120 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:41:04am
121 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 2:42:09am

re: #118 William Lewis

No specifics. Or shall we start locking up people for thought crimes?

Dude was talking to a Psychiatrist about his literal obsessive desire to murder people.

Also, I didn’t say he should be locked up. I said he ought not have access to guns.

122 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:48:00am
123 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:48:42am

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

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Dude was talking to a Psychiatrist about his literal obsessive desire to murder people.

Also, I didn’t say he should be locked up. I said he ought not have access to guns.

ONE HAS TO BE ADJUDICATED in order to deny them a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

In the NRA’s perfect world, a person’s gun savy family members would make sure the person didn’t have access to firearms. Remember, the NRA is living in the mythical Old West.

124 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:50:23am

I want a doberman.

125 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:50:50am
126 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 2:59:21am

For Obdi:
Joint hypermobility: emerging disease or illness behaviour?

If anyone has his email, please forward.

He and I share this disorder.

127 William Lewis  Jun 17, 2015 3:00:07am

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

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Dude was talking to a Psychiatrist about his literal obsessive desire to murder people.

Also, I didn’t say he should be locked up. I said he ought not have access to guns.

What you are saying is that there should be legal punishment - the loss of a constitutional right - not for actually committing a crime but for seeking psychological help. Which will end that in a hurry. And then when your punishment fails to stop killings - and it will fail especially by those won’t seek even what little help there is now - what then?

128 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:00:43am

Planned Parenthood Champ vs Chump Chart

129 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 3:03:15am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

ONE HAS TO BE ADJUDICATED in order to deny them a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

43 States have a looser standard than the “imminent danger” criteria used in Colorado. When someone deliberately toes right up to within an inch of the line with a Psychiatrist, smirks, makes psychotic statements, and says that they don’t want to be committed, it’s time to consider that they might need to be committed for public safety.

130 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:04:37am

Jeb Bush And Florida’s ‘Scarlet Letter Law,’ Explained

We will see a woman burned at the stake, stoned or piled on with rocks.

131 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:08:21am

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

43 States have a looser standard than the “imminent danger” criteria used in Colorado. When someone deliberately toes right up to within an inch of the line with a Psychiatrist, smirks, makes psychotic statements, and says that they don’t want to be committed, it’s time to consider that they might need to be committed for public safety.

Is this discussion about involuntary holds or denying someone firearm ownership?

Involuntary holds is a new aspect to the discussion—right?

I’ve done no research on the subject and cannot comment.

132 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:11:15am
133 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:14:15am
134 FemNaziBitch  Jun 17, 2015 3:14:20am

bbl

135 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 3:18:15am

re: #131 FemNaziBitch

Involuntary holds are one legal tool for denying firearms possession. A person does not actually need to be “adjudicated” as you said. See ATF form 4473 Question 11f below. An involuntary commitment carries the same effect on gun ownership rights as “adjudicated mentally defective” but is technically different and is defined separately. “Adjudicated” generally means a person has been found incapable of standing trial. Involuntary commitments are generally much more quickly obtained, and instituted as an emergency measure.

Question 11.f.

Adjudicated Mentally Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease:
(1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) Those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.

Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution. Please also refer to Question 11.c. for the definition of a prohibited person.

136 Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2015 3:47:00am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

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So if we outlaw pasta we could get rid of the mafia?

137 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 3:47:37am

I’m awake.
The weather radar for the Ohio River Valley and the rest of the region this morning looks really really scary.

Might need an ark…

138 Dark_Falcon  Jun 17, 2015 4:23:10am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Involuntary holds are one legal tool for denying firearms possession. A person does not actually need to be “adjudicated” as you said. See ATF form 4473 Question 11f below. An involuntary commitment carries the same effect on gun ownership rights as “adjudicated mentally defective” but is technically different and is defined separately. “Adjudicated” generally means a person has been found incapable of standing trial. Involuntary commitments are generally much more quickly obtained, and instituted as an emergency measure.

I must respectfully disagree on your interpretation based on the following boldedpart of 11.f:

Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution. Please also refer to Question 11.c. for the definition of a prohibited person.

I have often heard involuntary holds described as holds for observation, and I think that correct. In my mind it would be severely problematic if a single psychiatrist was simply able to get someone held and them that was counted as ‘committed’. One should not lose one’s right to own a firearm (and face a lengthy and expensive process to get one’s rights restored) based on one person’s say-so, even if that person is an expert. To do so strikes me as a violation not only of the 2nd Amendment but also of the Due Process provisions of the 5th and 14th Amendments as well.

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 4:27:18am
140 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 4:29:47am

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

I must respectfully disagree on your interpretation based on the following boldedpart of 11.f:

Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution. Please also refer to Question 11.c. for the definition of a prohibited person.

I have often heard involuntary holds described as holds for observation, and I think that correct. In my mind it would be severely problematic if a single psychiatrist was simply able to get someone held and them that was counted as ‘committed’. One should not lose one’s right to own a firearm (and face a lengthy and expensive process to get one’s rights restored) based on one person’s say-so, even if that person is an expert. To do so strikes me as a violation not only of the 2nd Amendment but also of the Due Process provisions of the 5th and 14th Amendments as well.

You’re wrong. Observation is not involuntary commitment. It’s is often preliminary to an involuntary commitment.

141 Dark_Falcon  Jun 17, 2015 4:31:41am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

You’re wrong. Observation is not involuntary commitment. It’s is often preliminary to an involuntary commitment.

I was referring to something like a ‘involuntary 48-hour hold’ being seen as ‘for observation’.

BBT

142 goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2015 4:38:53am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

I was referring to something like a ‘involuntary 48-hour hold’ being seen as ‘for observation’.

BBT

Depends on the State.

Additionally, when patients who are placed on a 5150 hold for danger to self or danger to others, a notification is filed which results in the person losing the right to purchase or possess firearms for five years. This firearms prohibition may be appealed.

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 4:47:20am
144 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 4:48:03am

I’m late to the True Detective party. Finally, I got around to watching the first season. I’m a convert.

No spoilers, please.

145 DodgerFan1988  Jun 17, 2015 4:48:47am

Conservative website report on the Golden State Warriors winning the NBA Finals. Predictable racist and bigoted responses in the comment section. That’s who these people are.theblaze.com

146 Joe Bacon  Jun 17, 2015 4:49:31am

re: #132 FemNaziBitch

“braud”??????

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 4:50:22am

re: #146 Joe Bacon

“braud”??????

spelling iz teh hard…

148 Decatur Deb  Jun 17, 2015 4:54:29am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

spelling iz teh hard…

One tiny little thing to pick at, in an otherwise excellent thesis.

(Must walk dog…)

149 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 5:06:14am

re: #132 FemNaziBitch

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WTFITS?

I work all day and come home all stressed out! Shouldn’t the retired stay-at-home old man learn some cooking skills and have dinner ready for ME? Clean up the house especially the seat in front of the TV where he eats & drinks & spills cola & doesn’t wipe it so it gets sticky & gross & stains the carpet?

How about ironing my shirts since the cleaners charges more to do a woman’s shirt than a man’s shirt?

Fold up his own socks & underwear.

Gah these memes make me so angry.

150 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 5:08:00am

Have an Easy Fast those of you out there on this hot First Day of Ramadan.

151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 5:21:35am
152 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 5:28:28am

‘Morning, Lizards!

Live from New York - it’s the front page of the NY Daily News:

153 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 5:30:07am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 5:40:21am
155 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 5:44:24am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don’t forget the country songs whose usage has become a cliche by now.

156 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 5:46:37am

OK meet my block button now

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 5:48:21am

McCain: “There [are] some people who and businesses that can’t be protected, but frankly they shouldn’t be protected really, when you get down to it, if it means a lower cost to the consumer of some goods and services that then more Americans can afford them.”

158 Decatur Deb  Jun 17, 2015 5:50:45am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

McCain: “There [are] some people who and businesses that can’t be protected, but frankly they shouldn’t be protected really, when you get down to it, if it means a lower cost to the consumer of some goods and services that then more Americans can afford them.”

Until someone can afford everything and no one can afford anything.

159 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 5:53:38am

Ben Shapiro is still Derping about Rachel Dolezal and Caitlyn Jenner.

160 Decatur Deb  Jun 17, 2015 5:58:11am

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is still Derping about Rachel Dolezal and Caitlyn Jenner.

Guess that ruins both their chances for the Dem nomination.

161 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 6:01:35am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Guess that ruins both their chances for the Dem nomination.

Caitlyn is a Republican

162 Decatur Deb  Jun 17, 2015 6:02:05am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

Caitlyn is a Republican

I have great faith in her power to adapt.

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 6:03:41am
164 Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2015 6:05:49am

re: #156 The Vicious Babushka

OK meet my block button now

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Wonder if that person uses the OLD TESTAMENT to disparage gays?

165 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 6:10:26am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

Wonder if that person uses the OLD TESTAMENT to disparage gays?

I don’t give a shit. People who show up in my timeline ranting about HURR HURR TEH JUICE CONSPIRACY!!!!! meet my little block button hard and fast.

166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 6:10:33am
167 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 6:16:37am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If NBC were to televise a new edition of the “Apprentice” while Trump was out on the stump, other candidates could cry foul about the unfair exposure. There are even government “equal time” rules about this issue.

The Equal Time Rule is about as toothless as a broadcasting rule can possibly get without being eliminated entirely at this point. It’s been repeatedly violated by conservative-leaning broadcast outlets for years.

168 Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2015 6:18:55am

Chuck has an announcement!

169 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 17, 2015 6:19:39am

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Just because it’s a cute photo:

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Via one of my students (not pictured).

Practicing for The Great Leap Downward.

170 Franklin  Jun 17, 2015 6:20:41am

re: #146 Joe Bacon

“braud”??????

My first modem was a 1200 baud acoustic coupler. Didn’t fold my laundry though.

171 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 6:21:21am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Chuck has an announcement!

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I hope Chuck is using that uneducated little lawyer in Missouri for this.

172 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 17, 2015 6:21:51am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Chuck has an announcement!

Which reminds me, I need to go over to CCJ’s Twitter feed to see what he thinks about Trump2016.

Oh wait….

173 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 6:22:22am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Chuck has an announcement!

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What’s the odds the lawsuit’s going to be written in crayon?

174 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 6:23:51am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

I’m sorry, but Chuck who?

In any event, I’m going to sit back and grab some snacks. This is gonna be great - especially the bit about discovery and the first summary judgment motion thrown Chucky’s way.

Pass the popcorn
175 freetoken  Jun 17, 2015 6:25:37am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

If he knew anything about Terry Bollea (Hulk Hogan), then he’d know that HH is a media whore who seeks out as many mentions of his stage name as possible (e.g., see what he’s done with his children.)

Also, the sex tape was made by the husband (and friend of HH) of the woman, who apparently used the camera in the room to make other tapes (with his wife’s consent.)

Not trying to defend the practice of airing sex tapes, but in this case it’s not quite the highest of moral grounds on which to judge Gawker.

Anyway, it’s pretty clear that CCJ’s history of attacking innocent non-public persons is not the same as Gawker going after celebs.

176 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 6:34:27am

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Perhaps he’s hoping Gawker will settle out of court for big bux, so he can live the easy life.

hahahahahaha!

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 6:39:32am

Chuck’s FB page privacy settings are for friends only.
What a way to build a media empire!

178 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 6:40:46am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Perhaps he’s hoping Gawker will settle out of court for big bux, so he can live the easy life.

hahahahahaha!

He’s hoping Gawker will write an article about him, giving him the attention he’s been jonesing for since getting cut off from Twitter.

179 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2015 6:41:50am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, so much for being fearless, huh?

180 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 6:42:23am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Perhaps he’s hoping Gawker will settle out of court for big bux, so he can live the easy life.

hahahahahaha!

I’m thinking that Gawker will go to great lengths to crush him like a bug.

It’s one thing to go after regular people. It’s quite another to go after what is now a major media outfit with money to pay good lawyers.

Chuck’s problems haven’t even started yet.

181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 6:42:40am

re: #179 CuriousLurker

LOL, so much for being fearless, huh?

He can dish it, but he can’t take it.

182 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 6:47:25am

re: #174 lawhawk

Since Gawker is headquartered in NYC, any chance you can keep an eye on court filings for us?

183 Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2015 6:57:37am

Case in point:

184 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 6:58:50am

I’ll believe he’s bringing suit for libel when I see the actual filing. Civil suits allow for practically unlimited discovery and in his case the discovery process will reveal to the public just what a sordid little piece of shit he is. He would begin the suit toxic and end it in debt and radioactive.

185 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2015 7:00:41am

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Indeed. You know, if he redirected even half the effort that he expends on the melodramatic trolling & pathetic begging for $$ into going after legitimate stories & useful content for his blog, then he might get somewhere.

I mean seriously, look at all the right-wing contacts he has—or at least had—if he was half as smart as he claims to be, then he would’ve worked to reinforce & develop them and eventually turn them into something that could’ve helped him with his career. But he got greedy or impatient or whatever and blew it. Now he’s so toxic that only the fringe of the fringe will get anywhere near him.

The guy has become the Ginger Chernobyl.

186 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 7:02:28am

re: #19 Kragar

187 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 7:05:45am

re: #185 CuriousLurker

Indeed. You know, if he redirected even half the effort that he expends on the melodramatic trolling & pathetic begging for $$ into going after legitimate stories & useful content for his blog, then he might get somewhere.

I mean seriously, look at all the right-wing contacts he has, or at least had—if he was half as smart as he claims to be, then he would’ve worked to reinforce & develop them and eventually turn them into something that could’ve helped him with his get ahead. But he got greedy or impatient or whatever and blew it. Now he’s so toxic that only the fringe of the fringe will get anywhere near him.

Hubris, plain and simple. He hyped himself as some sort of journalistic super-dude for so long, he came to actually believe it. Thought he was bulletproof. He wanted to burn down the establishment, but all he ended up burning were all the bridges to that sweet wingnut welfare.

The guy has become the Ginger Chernobyl.

With no one but himself to blame - but he’ll never, ever admit that.

188 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 7:05:52am

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m pretty sure that if Chucky’s suing, he’ll try to do it in CA, not NY. He’d want to do it in a forum favorable to him (easier than traveling to NY to file the papers, do discovery, etc), though CA has some of the strongest the anti-SLAPP suit statutes in the country.

So, while Gawker’s offices are here in NY, they could be sued in CA in federal court. In any event, the filings would show up in PACER, but I don’t have access.

189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 7:07:10am

Interesting. CCJ had a long interview with Jason Calacanis last week. While you find it on YouTube, it’s not archived at Jason’s website. thisweekinstartups.com

Before that interview, Calacanis write this in his blog:

Twitter has a horrible trolling problem, and they’re tackling it head on by banning the accounts of uber-Trolls like Charles Johnson of gotnews.com — who is a true piece of work. Also, Twitter today warned white supremacist @rabite to stop encouraging his followers to harass people.

Johnson left a comment asking to meet up with Calacanis, because CCJ would just so happen to be in SF soon.

190 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 7:12:46am

Morning. Sure is a lot of rain around here today. And tomorrow. And Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Sigh.

Bummer for the city of Cleveland…no pro sports championship again. They gave all they could with what they had. Hopefully they can get back to the NBA finals again next year…maybe even meet up with Golden State again. With a fully healthy squad I think they could have taken the Warriors. But congrats to Curry and gang.

By the way…I wanna see Trump’s financial disclosures. I have a feeling there is some fun to be mined in there and with the way he will go about it.

I hate Trump but I like that he is like a Republican terrorist. He is going to blow up everything Republican from here on out…or until he decides he is no longer in it.

I’m hoping Johnny Kasich gets involved too. I think he is also capable of blowing up some of the other candidates with his different takes on the typical Republican stances.

By this time next year the Republican candidates will have taken on a look of rubble and dust. I’d be surprised if there are still 5 of the clown bus riders left and the bus will be parked along the side of the road a burned out and blasted hulk.

191 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 7:15:48am

In completely unrelated news, the first deck girders for the New Tappan Zee bridge are going up today as I write. They’re being lifted by the Left Coast Lifter I lift NY super crane.

Pretty amazing to watch them do those lifts.

newnybridgegallery.com

Look for the Rockland county approach cameras. That’s where the action is taking place.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 7:17:04am
193 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 7:17:18am

re: #156 The Vicious Babushka

OK meet my block button now

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194 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 7:17:25am

re: #186 No Country For Old Haters

Jeff Furlington @FurlingtonJeff

.@Kragar_LGF Why am I not surprised that the stupid bigot @rsmccain is also a men’s rights asshole.
10:01 AM - 17 Jun 2015

Hey now. What do you expect from a mavericky kinda guy? Not to be ‘icky’?

Not gunna happen. He’s a man’s man, man!

195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 17, 2015 7:18:44am

re: #188 lawhawk

OK, it was worth a shot. ;-)

When and if he makes good on this latest threat, I’m sure some eagle-eye will catch it.

re: #185 CuriousLurker

Jason Calacanis said something to this effect near the end of his interview with Chuck. He advised CCJ that he still had some “maturing” to do as a journalist, but his research skills and dogged pursuit of his prey would be excellent if used in the right way. Both Calacanis and Yiannopoulos treated CCJ as a kind of carnival attraction, and (to an outside observer) not as a serious journalist. CCJ no doubt ignored whatever mild direction they gave him toward being responsible.

I wonder about his impulsiveness — or veracity —, too. In the Milo interview, he said he spent $100,000 of his own money (remember, he was a scholarship kid at prep school) tracking down Obama’s “gayness.” In the Jason interview, he says he paid out of pocket a “private eye” $2,000 to track down the hookers who supposedly entertained Menendez . It’s no wonder he’s constantly begging for money.

196 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 7:21:36am

re: #194 ObserverArt

It would be foolish to expect anything better from R.S. McCain. The man made his bones at Sun Myung Moon’s rag.

197 Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2015 7:23:27am

re: #188 lawhawk

I have a really hard time believing he’ll actually do this. There’s no way he can win, and the consequences for losing would be severe.

No decent lawyer will take a case like this, which means if he finds one who will, it will be a clown - reducing his chances of winning even more.

If he goes through with this, it will be the biggest mistake he ever made.

198 Whack-A-Mole  Jun 17, 2015 7:26:15am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

The G.R.R.M Daily News, with Chief Editor Joss Whedon.

199 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 17, 2015 7:27:10am

re: #178 The Vicious Babushka

He’s hoping Gawker will write an article about him, giving him the attention he’s been jonesing for since getting cut off from Twitter.

And no doubt he just hopes Gawker would settle rather than go to trial, even if it’s for relative pennies. CCJ needs to eat and put a roof over his head.

200 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:28:06am

re: #199 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And no doubt he just hopes Gawker would settle rather than go to trial, even if it’s for relative pennies. CCJ needs to eat and put a roof over his head.

Gawker will squash him like a bug.

201 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 7:29:27am

re: #196 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It would be foolish to expect anything better from R.S. McCain. The man made his bones at Sun Myung Moon’s rag.

When I see an image of him, it just seems like it was taken in a past time. You could put him in a picture of the downtrodden folks in the dust bowl and he’d fit right in. Or place him in a soup line in Chicago during the depression.

Or, standing in the crowd at a lynching down south.

202 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 7:30:19am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

I have a really hard time believing he’ll actually do this. There’s no way he can win, and the consequences for losing would be severe.

No decent lawyer will take a case like this, which means if he finds one who will, it will be a clown - reducing his chances of winning even more.

If he goes through with this, it will be the biggest mistake he ever made.

No decent lawyer. Of course there are plenty of indecent lawyers out there - up to and including the likes of Orly, who have shown a complete disregard for the legal process and self-aggrandizing showboating all while showing that they are incompetent.

Even in losing, Chucky may think that this will somehow up his profile or inject new life into his online “ventures”.

He can’t be more completely wrong, of course, but he’s determined to show just how badly he can act.

203 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 17, 2015 7:31:51am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Gawker will squash him like a bug.

This. I’ll give Nick Denton this - he’s a shrewd media operator. He built Gawker without outside financing into a pretty big online media outlet. And he’s swatted down libel threats from people with much more money than CCJ. He has lawyers on staff to clear stories.

204 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:34:15am

re: #203 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

This. I’ll give Nick Denton this - he’s a shrewd media operator. He built Gawker without outside financing into a pretty big online media outlet. And he’s swatted down libel threats from people with much more money than CCJ. He has lawyers on staff to clear stories.

And he has researchers who can find proof that Chuck really did shit the floor.

205 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:35:42am

SADS :(

206 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 7:39:00am

re: #203 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

This. I’ll give Nick Denton this - he’s a shrewd media operator. He built Gawker without outside financing into a pretty big online media outlet. And he’s swatted down libel threats from people with much more money than CCJ. He has lawyers on staff to clear stories.

I think Denton would take a huge amount of delight in ruining Chuck Johnson, both as payback for Chuck’s continued dissing of Gawker and as an example to anyone who might think that following the CCJ model is remotely a good idea.

CCJ’s metaphorical head on a pike outside Gawker’s offices would signal to any future ‘uber-trolls’ that Gawker is not to be fucked with..

207 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 7:44:53am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

SADS :(

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Damn it.

208 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 7:47:16am
209 Lidane  Jun 17, 2015 7:48:06am

That sound you hear is Rick Santorum having an aneurysm:

210 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 7:50:10am

re: #209 Lidane

That sound you hear is Rick Santorum having an aneurysm:

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Santorum - The Pope is no true Christian. /

211 Dave In Austin  Jun 17, 2015 7:50:56am
212 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 17, 2015 7:51:08am

Speaking of Chucky:

dailykos.com

213 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:51:58am

Somebody took a gun-fucking meme and turned it around. Good job.

214 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 7:53:54am

re: #209 Lidane

That sound you hear is Rick Santorum having an aneurysm:

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The right’s repudiation of Pope Francis will accelerate now. For me, this is one of those rare “Oh, fuck,” moments in the right’s descent into madness. Those moments aren’t rare for me because the right doesn’t do something repellant on a daily basis. They’re rare because what rates an “Oh, fuck” has moved so far up the scale.

215 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:55:42am

Donald & Sarah can have a joint poetry slam.

216 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 7:55:47am

Trump is absolutely clueless about economics, but that’s par for the course with the GOP these days. After all, they think that FairTax is actually fair (it’s regressive and redistributes the tax burdens from the rich on to everyone else), they think that cutting taxes will stimulate growth - and Texas is latest to go down this route, etc.

217 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:58:27am

re: #216 lawhawk

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Trump is absolutely clueless about economics, but that’s par for the course with the GOP these days. After all, they think that FairTax is actually fair (it’s regressive and redistributes the tax burdens from the rich on to everyone else), they think that cutting taxes will stimulate growth - and Texas is latest to go down this route, etc.

FairTax is even more fucked up than being just a 30% salestax on all consumer purchases. It goes way beyond that.

218 Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2015 7:58:29am

re: #209 Lidane

That sound you hear is Rick Santorum having an aneurysm:

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This really has to be an absolute nightmare to those who think they’re “Christians” while worshiping Ayn Rand, patron saint of greedy assholes.

219 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 17, 2015 7:58:34am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Of all the amazing restaurants in NYC, he offers to take her out for pizza?

220 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 7:59:00am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Donald & Sarah can have a joint poetry slam.

Thank you Sarah—Let’s have pizza in New York soon

I’ll have my wait staff get the knives and forks ready.
/

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2015 7:59:16am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Of all the amazing restaurants in NYC, he offers to take her out for pizza?

That’s what he did the last time they had dinner.

222 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 7:59:54am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Of all the amazing restaurants in NYC, he offers to take her out for pizza?

Last time they met he took her out to a crappy chain pizzeria in Times Square where they ate pizza with a knife & fork. Jon Stewart pissed his pants laughing.

223 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 8:00:22am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s what he did the last time they had dinner.

And Stewart mocked the living hell out of them for eating pizza with flatware.

As he should.

224 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 8:02:37am

re: #220 makeitstop

I’ll have my wait staff get the knives and forks ready.
/

I was wondering who would be the first to make that crack.

Only the finest china and silver!

225 darthstar  Jun 17, 2015 8:02:48am

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

226 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 8:04:47am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Of all the amazing restaurants in NYC, he offers to take her out for pizza?

They’re catering to the red meat GOPers who wouldn’t ever dream of going to a Michelin rated restaurant. So, instead of going to 11 Madison Park, Per Se or Nobu, they’re going to go to some random pizza joint (probably not Grimaldis or Johns on Bleecker or any of the notable pizza joints around NYC like Denino’s or Di Faras or Lombardis).

227 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 8:04:59am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

Damn commie pinko!!!

228 Lidane  Jun 17, 2015 8:05:16am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

I got 91% with Bernie and 87% with Hillary. The rest were way, way lower.

229 darthstar  Jun 17, 2015 8:05:33am

re: #227 ObserverArt

Damn commie pinko!!!

I prefer to be called a socialist fuckstick.

230 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 8:06:46am

Motherfucker, watching an episode of The Wire and Ben Carson gets a mention. The episode aired way back in 2006.

231 Lidane  Jun 17, 2015 8:10:37am

Awww….

232 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 8:13:35am
233 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 8:13:40am

re: #230 Timothy Watson

Motherfucker, watching an episode of The Wire and Ben Carson gets a mention. The episode aired way back in 2006.

Great show. You should also see The Corner if you haven’t already.

That was before people knew Carson was crazy, and he was just a role-model to the black community.

234 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 8:13:51am

re: #231 Lidane

Thank you. I’m glad that no one is around right now. My reaction to that item would really fuck with my tough guy image.

235 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 17, 2015 8:13:57am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Donald & Sarah can have a joint poetry slam.

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Don’t forget your fork for the pizza, Trump!

Dang, too late by a million comments.

236 Bubblehead II  Jun 17, 2015 8:14:51am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

Hillary leads Bernie by 3 percentage point.

isidewith.com

237 Lidane  Jun 17, 2015 8:17:19am

re: #216 lawhawk

238 Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2015 8:17:46am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

SADS :(

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Tommy still looks surprisingly good for his age.

239 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 8:18:27am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Donald & Sarah can have a joint poetry slam.

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Only in America could two just plain folk possibly become the Power Couple of the conservative movement.

240 De Kolta Chair  Jun 17, 2015 8:21:20am
Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis (center) listening to Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras addressing Parliament on Tuesday. Why he was accompanied by Peter Jackson (left) and The Most Interesting Man in the World is anyone’s guess.
241 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 8:23:08am

re: #236 Bubblehead II

Hillary leads Bernie by 3 percentage point.

isidewith.com

I’m a 94% match to Sanders. 81% to Clinton.

242 ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2015 8:23:38am

re: #234 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thank you. I’m glad that no one is around right now. My reaction to that item would really fuck with my tough guy image.

I’m with you. That was a fun break from the ordinary crap…like FOX news taking political swipes at the Pope for being the most dangerous person on the planet. The Pope!

Besides…how can that even be true when FOX is run by a scumbucket like Ailes…a true most dangerous type.

Later on…gotta get busy.

Oh by the way…I noticed Justanotherhuman was logged in a bit. I hope she gets a chance to join in.

243 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 8:25:16am

99% match with Bernie Sanders.

Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Left-Wing on an ideological scale…

At the age of 67 I’ll wear that with pride.

244 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 17, 2015 8:26:51am

re: #236 Bubblehead II

I’d be thrilled if Bernie were her VP.

245 Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2015 8:28:45am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

I got 90% match with Bernie, then Hill next at 87%.

246 Bubblehead II  Jun 17, 2015 8:29:13am

re: #244 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d be thrilled if Bernie were her VP.

They would make an interesting team that’s for sure.

247 Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2015 8:30:28am
@RealDonaldTrump #DonaldTrump #GOPClownCar
248 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 8:34:55am

The “Overcomb” meme is lame.

249 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 8:37:30am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I sided with Bernie Sanders (and closely with Hillary). Click to see if anyone is interested. I looked at both candidate and party.

Click to Reveal
250 Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2015 8:37:53am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

As is the #youmightbearepublican.

251 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 8:40:29am

re: #250 Dr. Matt

As is the #youmightbearepublican.

:(

252 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 8:42:36am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

I’m 96% Bernie, 80% Hillary on down to 2% Cruz (thought it would be zero as it said I didn’t agree with him on anything.

253 sagehen  Jun 17, 2015 8:44:31am

re: #216 lawhawk

Trump is absolutely clueless about economics, but that’s par for the course with the GOP these days. After all, they think that FairTax is actually fair (it’s regressive and redistributes the tax burdens from the rich on to everyone else), they think that cutting taxes will stimulate growth - and Texas is latest to go down this route, etc.

It’s obviously impossible for GDP to be zero. Cannot be.

Did he possibly misinterpret something that said GDP growth was at zero? It happens a lot. In fact, Q4-2008 GDP growth -9% (i.e., shrinkage). This is what right wing economics does.

254 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 8:44:33am

re: #252 BeachDem

I’m 96% Bernie, 80% Hillary on down to 2% Cruz (thought it would be zero as it said I didn’t agree with him on anything.

Inorite? Cruz=2%, Carson=1%. WTF?

255 #FergusonFireside  Jun 17, 2015 8:46:32am

re: #225 darthstar

I took the quiz. I’m 96% matched with Bernie.

isidewith.com

Me too, 91% Hillary.

256 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 8:48:32am

re: #254 WhatEVs

Inorite? Cruz=2%, Carson=1%. WTF?

And even though I agree with Bernie’s stances more than Hillary’s overall, I still think she’s the viable candidate.

Christie was my highest Republican—didn’t really study why, but it must be the wording of the questions, because I can’t think of any issues where I agree with him.

257 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 17, 2015 8:48:56am

re: #254 WhatEVs

Inorite? Cruz=2%, Carson=1%. WTF?

I thought that it might be because I’m 100% in favor of both Carson and Cruz becoming obscure as soon as possible.

258 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 8:49:23am

Rather than indicate who you best match with, I’m curious what people are getting as the closest candidate from the other party.

In other words, if you’re siding with Hillary or Bernie, who’s the closest GOPer.

If you’ve sided with Christie or Jeb, who’s the closest Dem and the percentage.

This would seem to be a more interesting analysis since it separates out and helps identify where the candidates diverge on key issues or emphasis.

For me, the closest GOPer was Jeb at 57%.

259 blueraven  Jun 17, 2015 8:49:35am

Well, of course they did.

260 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 8:51:14am

re: #256 BeachDem

There are some issues on which he’s probably closer to the middle than others, so there’s a reason to think he might line up with your responses in some fashion:

261 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 8:52:06am

Weird. I captured the percentages (92 Bernie, 89 Hillary) but then the page changed to show 93 Bernie, 79 Hillary, with the same number of agreed policy agenda items.

When I first took it, it showed I was with both Bernie and Hillary on Economic, Social, Domestic Policy, and Healthcare issues. I sided with Bernie on Environmental and Hillary on Foreign Policy and Immigration.

I think if it was weighted overall, I would have sided with Hillary over Bernie because of what was most/least important.

Interesting…and a little disingenuous, IMHO.

262 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 8:53:28am

re: #258 lawhawk

Rather than indicate who you best match with, I’m curious what people are getting as the closest candidate from the other party.

In other words, if you’re siding with Hillary or Bernie, who’s the closest GOPer.

If you’ve sided with Christie or Jeb, who’s the closest Dem and the percentage.

This would seem to be a more interesting analysis since it separates out and helps identify where the candidates diverge on key issues or emphasis.

For me, the closest GOPer was Jeb at 57%.

For me it was Christie (30%) for some completely unknown reason. It must be because of some bullshit he has said that they are using for their basis.

263 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 8:55:02am

re: #260 lawhawk

Holy shit. When you’re to the right of fucking Rush Limbaugh, it’s time to go home. Just go.

264 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 8:59:02am

re: #260 lawhawk

There are some issues on which he’s probably closer to the middle than others, so there’s a reason to think he might line up with your responses in some fashion:

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265 Bird in the Paw  Jun 17, 2015 9:00:41am

re: #258 lawhawk

Rather than indicate who you best match with, I’m curious what people are getting as the closest candidate from the other party.

For me, the closest GOPer was Jeb at 57%.

I’m 82% Bernie; 68% Hillary; 67% O’Malley; 33% JEB! and Christie; 21% Luap

266 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:01:29am
267 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 9:02:21am

re: #261 WhatEVs

Weird. I captured the percentages (92 Bernie, 89 Hillary) but then the page changed to show 93 Bernie, 79 Hillary, with the same number of agreed policy agenda items.

When I first took it, it showed I was with both Bernie and Hillary on Economic, Social, Domestic Policy, and Healthcare issues. I sided with Bernie on Environmental and Hillary on Foreign Policy and Immigration.

I think if it was weighted overall, I would have sided with Hillary over Bernie because of what was most/least important.

Interesting…and a little disingenuous, IMHO.

Get out of my head! Seriously, my agreements and numbers were almost identical to yours. And I think it was my ranking of importance that pushed my Bernie numbers up. (I didn’t rank every question.)

268 Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2015 9:04:09am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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Great to see they’ll keep their jobs, sad because odds are Disney didn’t cancel the sacking because they’d had a change of heart, but because they took a shellacking in the press over it.

269 Lidane  Jun 17, 2015 9:04:53am

O HAI! Have a sample of some authentic Texas gibberish and some genuine Texas anger:

270 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:05:05am

re: #268 Targetpractice

Great to see they’ll keep their jobs, sad because odds are Disney didn’t cancel the sacking because they’d had a change of heart, but because they took a shellacking in the press over it.

The 250 already sacked employees remain sacked.

271 Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2015 9:06:35am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

The 250 already sacked employees remain sacked.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney is one of those companies who are aggressively campaigning Congress for expansion of H-1B visas.

272 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:07:36am

LOL experience at declaring bankruptcy again and again?

273 Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2015 9:09:32am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

LOL experience at declaring bankruptcy again and again?

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I do love these meaningless soundbites we get, like saying we need “experience” without ever explaining what sort of experience is actually needed.

274 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 9:12:28am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

LOL experience at declaring bankruptcy again and again?

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275 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 9:20:53am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

LOL experience at declaring bankruptcy again and again?

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I think Charles P. Pierce had the best description of Trump’s announcement (although the Daily News front page was a classic—had to double check to make sure it wasn’t a shopped image):

…announced his intentions in a speech that apparently was written by elves who learned English 20 minutes before Trump walked on stage…

Trump’s vaguely paragraph-like globs of words were shot through with magical spells…

they know that Trump is the person who can solve their problems because he is a problem-solver on the art of the deal, the four bankruptcies notwithstanding.

And this is sad, but true:

He is the inevitable result of 40 years of political conjuring, mainly by Republicans, but abetted by far too many Democrats as well…

Sooner or later, all of this misbegotten magical thinking was going to burp up a clown like Donald Trump.

esquire.com

276 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:23:34am

re: #275 BeachDem

I think Charles P. Pierce had the best description of Trump’s announcement (although the Daily News front page was a classic—had to double check to make sure it wasn’t a shopped image):

…announced his intentions in a speech that apparently was written by elves who learned English 20 minutes before Trump walked on stage…

Trump’s vaguely paragraph-like globs of words were shot through with magical spells…

they know that Trump is the person who can solve their problems because he is a problem-solver on the art of the deal, the four bankruptcies notwithstanding.

And this is sad, but true:

He is the inevitable result of 40 years of political conjuring, mainly by Republicans, but abetted by far too many Democrats as well…

Sooner or later, all of this misbegotten magical thinking was going to burp up a clown like Donald Trump.

esquire.com

Trump is butthurt by the Daily News==>

277 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 9:24:51am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is butthurt by the Daily News==>

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278 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 9:24:57am

re: #249 WhatEVs

I sided with Bernie Sanders (and closely with Hillary). Click to see if anyone is interested. I looked at both candidate and party.

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Clinton 93%, Sanders 90%, O’Malley 72%, Paul 34% (WTF?).

279 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 9:25:47am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is butthurt by the Daily News==>

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Loses fortune & has zero gravitas. Let it die!

Wait, was he describing the Daily News or himself?

280 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 9:26:34am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is butthurt by the Daily News==>

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He really is Sarah Palin in a man’s suit. No negative word ever goes unaddressed. Magical thinking with his own smattering of Word Salad.

Republicans. You guys crack me up (and make me shake my head, and cry - all at the same time).

281 Jenner7  Jun 17, 2015 9:29:56am

re: #216 lawhawk

What’s sad is that my local tv station comments regarding Trump are supportive. One said he was the most intelligent of the bunch. Another said he had the experience that others didn’t.

Depressed the hell out of me.

282 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:30:13am

LOLOLOL

283 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 9:33:42am

He deserves all the mockery he gets. Donald has done nothing in his career that indicates he wants to be taken seriously.

284 subterraneanhomesickalien  Jun 17, 2015 9:34:10am

re: #19 Kragar

And there is the inferiority complex.

285 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 17, 2015 9:35:00am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Only a fool would buy the @NYDailyNews. Loses fortune & has zero gravitas. Let it die!
— Donald J. Trump

Very presidential. Gravitas!

#SaveAmericaGreatAgainToo

/

286 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 9:35:54am

re: #281 Jenner7

What’s sad is that my local tv station comments regarding Trump are supportive. One said he was the most intelligent of the bunch. Another said he had the experience that others didn’t.

Depressed the hell out of me.

In 2011, I had a lab class for final required science class and two of my lab partners really liked Herman Cain. Nice people but I was just thinking sheesh. the one dude had an iced tea with Rush’s image on it. I didn’t talk politics with them since I know I would have offended and I usually keep my politics to myself unless i am directly asked.

287 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:37:43am

re: #285 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Very presidential. Gravitas!

#SaveAmericaGreatAgainToo

/

¡Muchas gravitas!

288 Jenner7  Jun 17, 2015 9:39:01am

Announcing: an Announcement!

Video

289 Ace-o-aces  Jun 17, 2015 9:40:41am
290 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 9:45:02am

re: #281 Jenner7

What’s sad is that my local tv station comments regarding Trump are supportive. One said he was the most intelligent of the bunch. Another said he had the experience that others didn’t.

Depressed the hell out of me.

One of my guilty pleasures is reading celebrity gossip (I know, I know). I was over at Gossip Cop (a sister site of Mediaite) and the comments there were priceless. About 98% of the people were lambasting Trump. The other two percent were being corrected by the rest (including me).

I think you’re always going to deal with those 30% of deranged people who insist on ignoring what the GOP has become. That so many people who follow celebs (and who I tend to think are…less political, to be kind) were all over TRUMP LOLOLOL, made me feel better about humanity.

291 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 9:50:56am

re: #281 Jenner7

What’s sad is that my local tv station comments regarding Trump are supportive. One said he was the most intelligent of the bunch. Another said he had the experience that others didn’t.

Depressed the hell out of me.

I’m seeing a lot of that:

‘He’s got balls! That’s what we need!’

‘The Dem and Rep choices suck, so why not?’

I think a lot of people don’t realize the damage having a loose cannon head case like Trump at the helm for four years would cause, and they wouldn’t figure it out until it was way too late.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 17, 2015 9:52:17am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

The 250 already sacked employees remain sacked.

And something will come up forcing Disney to hire llamas at the last minute at great expense.

293 Timothy Watson  Jun 17, 2015 9:53:29am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

In 2011, I had a lab class for final required science class and two of my lab partners really liked Herman Cain. Nice people but I was just thinking sheesh. the one dude had an iced tea with Rush’s image on it. I didn’t talk politics with them since I know I would have offended and I usually keep my politics to myself unless i am directly asked.

Yeah, it’s hard to bite your tongue sometimes though.

294 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 9:54:05am

re: #291 makeitstop

I’m seeing a lot of that:

‘He’s got balls! That’s what we need!’

‘The Dem and Rep choices suck, so why not?’

I think a lot of people don’t realize the damage having a loose cannon head case like Trump at the helm for four years would cause, and they wouldn’t figure it out until it was way too late.

The thing that keeps me sane is the fact that Trump has zero chance of making it. Zero. Some people might like his over-the-top-assholiness (in the same way that some may like Christie for the same reason), but that shit will never sell to middle-America (other than the previously mentioned 30% who will vote for anything that sneezes right-wing paranoia). It just won’t.

And that Trump said he wants Oprah as his Veep? Cut that 30% down to 5%. I don’t think the flame throwers would be so enthusiastic about a black liberal as his veep.

295 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 17, 2015 9:55:29am

re: #294 WhatEVs

The thing that keeps me sane is the fact that Trump has zero chance of making it. Zero. Some people might like his over-the-top-assholiness (in the same way that some may like Christie for the same reason), but that shit will never sell to middle-America (other than the previously mentioned 30% who will vote for anything that sneezes right-wing paranoia). It just won’t.

And that Trump said he wants Oprah as his Veep? Cut that 30% down to 5%. I don’t think the flame throwers would be so enthusiastic about a black liberal as his veep.

How is Oprah even qualified?

296 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 9:55:31am

re: #293 Timothy Watson

Yeah, it’s hard to bite your tongue sometimes though.

Very hard especially around here. Loudoun County is blue but we’re right on the Clarke County border here. A funny story though about biting your tongue. One of my brother’s friends was saying when he met my brother first right around the 2012 election, he was really afraid to say who he supported (Obama) but when my brother said Obama, he was just so relieved.

297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 17, 2015 9:56:32am

Unless I’m mistaken, no new GOP presidential candidate has entered the race today.

/

298 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 9:56:40am

isidewith.com
Like many of you, I’m in Team Sanders.

299 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 9:56:44am

re: #295 Iwouldprefernotto

How is Oprah even qualified?

She’s going to give us all cars. Don’t mess this up.
/

300 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2015 9:57:39am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

In 2011, I had a lab class for final required science class and two of my lab partners really liked Herman Cain. Nice people but I was just thinking sheesh. the one dude had an iced tea with Rush’s image on it. I didn’t talk politics with them since I know I would have offended and I usually keep my politics to myself unless i am directly asked.

I hope it wasn’t one of those specialty beverage containers that show the picture naked when you add ice to the cup. Because ewwwwwwww.

301 Nyet  Jun 17, 2015 9:57:54am

95% Bernie, 93% Hillary, 0% Cruz.

302 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 9:58:04am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Unless I’m mistaken, no new GOP presidential candidate has entered the race today.

/

I plan to change my name to Patriot Christian Bombbombbomb, and announcing shortly.

303 Romantic Heretic  Jun 17, 2015 9:59:31am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yay!

I can hear the head of Uber now. How dare the government interfere with my profits!

304 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 17, 2015 10:00:28am

Also does Trump not remember that Oprah was an early supporter of Obama?

305 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:00:31am

We have 3 GOP candidates who have never been elected to any position. And two with Trump and Carson who I’m pretty sure this is their first time running for anything. I really do get why people have an antipathy towards “career politicians” but at the same those career politicians know how to actually get shit done. Jimmy from the street running for Congress in anger over Obamacare is not going to be nearly as effective as that legislator who built up his chops. I’d say it’s akin to rushing a baseball player straight from high school or college to the majors. So called “outsiders” like to claim they have “real world experience” and the career politicians do not. I think that’s nonsense considering that many legislators on a state level do in fact have other jobs while they legislate. Probably not the best example because of the allegations involving him but Hasert was still teaching and coaching wrestling when he was first elected.

306 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:01:38am

re: #300 The Vicious Babushka

I hope it wasn’t one of those specialty beverage containers that show the picture naked when you add ice to the cup. Because ewwwwwwww.

Oh I have no idea. I just got a glance and saw Rush on his iced tea and I thought as a good Southerner what a shame to waste sweet tea with Rush’s image on it. As I said the guy was a genuinely nice kid and I enjoyed having him as a lab partner but sheesh louise.

307 lawhawk  Jun 17, 2015 10:02:06am

re: #277 No Country For Old Haters

308 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:04:09am

re: #295 Iwouldprefernotto

How is Oprah even qualified?

How is Trump even qualified?

309 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:04:45am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Unless I’m mistaken, no new GOP presidential candidate has entered the race today.

/

It’s early. :-)

310 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:05:25am

Is O’Malley considered more hawkish than Clinton or Sanders because my results say you agree with Sanders and Clinton on all the issues they quiz you on and O’Malley is there too for me except on FP.

311 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:05:26am

re: #301 Nyet

95% Bernie, 93% Hillary, 0% Cruz.

Where oh where did I go wrong?? (sigh)

312 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:05am

re: #295 Iwouldprefernotto

How is Oprah even qualified?

It’s this type of thing that makes me think this is all theater, and that Trump wants to leverage the resulting press into another season of Celebrity Apprentice.

It shows just how cynical Trump really is - using the electoral process to wring another season of a fucking reality show out of NBC.

313 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:13am

re: #308 WhatEVs

How is Trump even qualified?

I’d argue Trump isn’t even qualified to run for Congress. He’s not a good businessman. He is a brilliant marketer of himself but then again so were the Jersey Shore kids.

314 BeachDem  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:23am

re: #291 makeitstop

I’m seeing a lot of that:

‘He’s got balls! That’s what we need!’

‘The Dem and Rep choices suck, so why not?’

I think a lot of people don’t realize the damage having a loose cannon head case like Trump at the helm for four years FOUR MINUTES would cause, and they wouldn’t figure it out until it was way too late.

fify

315 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:42am

re: #311 WhatEVs

Where oh where did I go wrong?? (sigh)

I am actually disappointed that Cruz wasn’t my lowest. Fiorina is.

316 Nyet  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:45am

re: #311 WhatEVs

Where oh where did I go wrong?? (sigh)

As I understand, questions vary (e,g, HW had some different questions). So this test only gives a pretty general picture.

317 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2015 10:06:56am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Unless I’m mistaken, no new GOP presidential candidate has entered the race today.

/

Still early.
/

318 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:09:40am

re: #317 makeitstop

Still early.
/

I’m declaring my candidacy at the distillery.//

319 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 17, 2015 10:10:28am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

I am actually disappointed that Cruz wasn’t my lowest. Fiorina is.

Same here, but she is as delusional as Cruz.

320 Romantic Heretic  Jun 17, 2015 10:12:38am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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If I were them I’d still be looking for another job. Disney will just wait for something else to draw the public’s attention and then the tech workers will be pushed out the airlock.

321 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:12:55am

re: #319 No Country For Old Haters

Same here, but she is as delusional as Cruz.

Yeah and I have a special contempt for business people who think they should run the government because they’ve ran a business before especially those like Ms. Fiorina who didn’t do a particularly good job of running the business they did. It’s not that I don’t value business or entrepreneurship- hell my father had his own business while I was an infant briefly but there’s a certain arrogance that pisses me off about Fiorina, also Trump, and to another extent Romney(I realize he’s been elected though) that governments should be run like businesses.

322 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:14:41am

re: #319 No Country For Old Haters

Same here, but she is as delusional as Cruz.

She has to be if she thinks she did a good job at HP and her work there was worthy of being considered a viable candidate for POTUS - because of that work.

323 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 17, 2015 10:14:53am

re: #295 Iwouldprefernotto

How is Oprah even qualified?

Cult of Personality. Just like The Donald.

324 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:16:36am

re: #322 WhatEVs

She has to be if she thinks she did a good job at HP and her work there was worthy of being considered a viable candidate for POTUS - because of that work.

Was it her or Whitman that ran for Governor? I always got McCain’s two tech lady CEOs mixed up. Fiorina I believe was the one who made the inane comment that Palin who had at that point been governor of Alaska not even two full years qualified her more than Biden who was in his sixth term as a Senator and the former chair of two very important Senate committees.

325 sagehen  Jun 17, 2015 10:19:01am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Was it her or Whitman that ran for Governor? I always got McCain’s two tech lady CEOs mixed up. Fiorina I believe was the one who made the inane comment that Palin who had at that point been governor of Alaska not even two full years qualified her more than Biden who was in his sixth term as a Senator and the former chair of two very important Senate committees.

And at the VP debate, Palin thought it made her look good (youth!!) to say to Joe “I was 8 years old when you were first elected to the Senate…”

326 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:21:46am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Was it her or Whitman that ran for Governor? I always got McCain’s two tech lady CEOs mixed up. Fiorina I believe was the one who made the inane comment that Palin who had at that point been governor of Alaska not even two full years qualified her more than Biden who was in his sixth term as a Senator and the former chair of two very important Senate committees.

I think Whitman was the eBay lady. Ran for governor, if I recall.

At least Whitman didn’t outsource tens of thousands of jobs offshore.

327 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:22:31am

re: #326 WhatEVs

I think Whitman was the eBay lady. Ran for governor, if I recall.

At least Whitman didn’t outsource tens of thousands of jobs offshore.

That’s right and Fiorina ran against Boxer and had the crazy sheep ad.

328 WhatEVs  Jun 17, 2015 10:25:30am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

That’s right and Fiorina ran against Boxer and had the crazy sheep ad.

Don’t All True Republicans (tm) have crazy ads? Castration, sheep, gun fucking…almost all GOPers do that stuff.

329 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:25:50am

re: #325 sagehen

And at the VP debate, Palin thought it made her look good (youth!!) to say to Joe “I was 8 years old when you were first elected to the Senate…”

I can’t begrudge that too much because I do think sometimes it is a fair gripe that someone has been around too long but OTOH the McCain-Palin ticket’s knock on Obama was that he was not experienced enough. The other thing is that Biden despite having been in national office for 30+ years longer than Palin is “only” 21 years older than her. Biden was very young when he ran for the Senate. I think he may have been an even 30. But finally to suggest that being governor for not even two years made you more qualified than a guy who had spent his career in the Senate was moronic and dishonest.

330 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2015 10:26:16am

re: #328 WhatEVs

Don’t All True Republicans (tm) have crazy ads? Castration, sheep, gun fucking…almost all GOPers do that stuff.

Sure they all do but none of the ones here run ads with sheep.


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