Overnight Podcast: The Bob and Chez Show, 6/18/15

Plumbing the bad craziness in the Dylann Roof story
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We get serious about gun violence and the massacre in Charleston; Why we’ll never pass new gun legislation; Fox and Friends are evil monkeys; Alex Jones says this is the beginning of a race war; Lindsey Graham and Steve Doocy say this is a war on Christians; Brian Kilmeade tries to do math; and much more.

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1 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 10:34:48pm
2 goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2015 10:39:04pm
3 goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2015 10:55:19pm
4 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:00:28pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Shit like that. Folks by the thousands on Twitter are parroting “Lost Cause” ideology as we speak, in the year 2015.

Read about the Red Summer of 1919.

5 goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2015 11:11:14pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Young, white, bowl cut, looks like a donkey kicked him … probably fucks jelly doughnuts.

6 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2015 11:15:15pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Young, white, bowl cut, looks like a donkey kicked him … probably fucks jelly doughnuts.

So the Ish Kabibble look is in with a certain demographic?

7 Kragar  Jun 20, 2015 11:15:58pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Young, white, bowl cut, looks like a donkey kicked him … probably fucks jelly doughnuts.

So a lot like Roof then.

8 Kragar  Jun 20, 2015 11:18:07pm
9 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:18:20pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Young, white, bowl cut, looks like a donkey kicked him … probably fucks jelly doughnuts.

Minus the bowl cut:

10 goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2015 11:26:06pm

re: #7 Kragar

So a lot like Roof then.

And Adam Lanza.

11 Zamb  Jun 20, 2015 11:28:25pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Hey I was rocking that until I was 11.

12 BeachDem  Jun 20, 2015 11:36:49pm

I guess we know where Fox Sunday will be going.

The other yakfests have people like Joe Riley (Charleston mayor), Eugene Robinson (from SC), Tim Scott, Jim Clyburn, Sherrilyn Ifill, and Jelani Cobb along with their usual suspects.

Fox? Going for the all-white gang: Rick Perry, Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the roundtable with Karl Rove, Peter Baker , Kathleen Parker and Evan Bayh (does anyone, including his mother, care what Evan Bayh has to say about anything? I thought not.) Guess they won’t be talking about Charleston—oh please, with that group, please don’t let them talk about Charleston.

CNN has scored the YOOGE Cooo of Donald Trump—don’t know who else.

13 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:37:02pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

I had a bowl cut in elementary school. I hated it. In middle school, I went with the “parted-down-the-middle” look, which Beavis told Butt-head *in front of the band Anthrax* “You look like a dick!” So I went with a buzz-cut for a couple of years until sometime in high school (when I truly realized I was my own person forever) when I just let the goddamned hair go.

I have friends that call me Hair Farmer. From buzz-cut I can get my hair more than half-way down my back in about four to five years time.

I attribute this to genetics I got from my mom. Despite excellent researching from my dad, there is a small percentage of my mom’s lineage that we simply cannot find any information. My dad is convinced it’s Plains Indians lineage and why my mother and I could grow such long hair. I dunno.

14 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2015 11:39:30pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I had a bowl cut in elementary school. I hated it. In middle school, I went with the “parted-down-the-middle” look, which Beavis told Butt-head *in front of the band Anthrax* “You look like a dick!” So I went with a buzz-cut for a couple of years until sometime in high school (when I truly realized I was my own person forever) when I just let the goddamned hair go.

I have friends that call me Hair Farmer. From buzz-cut I can get my hair more than half-way down my back in about four to five years time.

I attribute this to genetics I got from my mom. Despite excellent researching from my dad, there is a small percentage of my mom’s lineage that we simply cannot find any information. My dad is convinced it’s Plains Indians lineage and why my mother and I could grow such long hair. I dunno.

Have you ever done a DNA test? The mtDNA test would trace your maternal ancestry.

15 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:42:18pm

re: #14 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Have you ever done a DNA test? The mtDNA test would trace your maternal ancestry.

I’ve never done a DNA test. AFAIK neither has my mother.

16 BeachDem  Jun 20, 2015 11:42:33pm

re: #8 Kragar

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And, he’s gone. Read his conversation with a fictional character (I love when that happens) but now his account is gone. (Or am I missing something.)

17 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:44:39pm

re: #16 BeachDem

And, he’s gone. Read his conversation with a fictional character (I love when that happens) but now his account is gone. (Or am I missing something.)

That tweet is gone. His account is still there.

18 Lancelot Link  Jun 20, 2015 11:49:40pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Pro tip: A bowl haircut is a major warning sign. You see that, you run.

19 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:49:55pm

re: #16 BeachDem

It’s okay, he pissed off libtards, so he can get drunk and smile and sleep soundly.

20 teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2015 11:55:09pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

21 Kragar  Jun 21, 2015 12:04:43am
22 goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2015 12:04:53am
23 goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2015 12:07:10am

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Deleted and edited the tweet so I’m not helping it trend.

24 Zamb  Jun 21, 2015 12:08:55am

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

So glad a bunch of white people get to decide what constitutes a proper discussion on race.
//

25 goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2015 12:13:25am
26 Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2015 12:13:31am

re: #21 Kragar

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What’s been amusing to watch is the “patriots” who want to portray burning Old Glory as something only a liberal would do arguing that there’s nothing wrong with flying a Confederate flag.

27 teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2015 12:18:12am

re: #20 teleskiguy

Dude replied. It’s been cordial, and we haven’t blocked each other. My last tweet to him:

28 William Lewis  Jun 21, 2015 12:38:16am

re: #27 teleskiguy

You’re a better man than I…

29 Dr Lizardo  Jun 21, 2015 12:57:30am

So, I wake up and read here at LGF that the CofCC (the heirs of the infamous White Citizens Councils of the 60s) has hauled down their website.

No doubt, they’re scrubbing it with an unending supply of Brillo pads and a 55-gallon drum of bleach.

I’m thinking a lot of the folks on the far-right are in full-on panic mode right about now, much like how we saw after the OKC bombing. Back then, of course, the internet wasn’t nearly as ubiquitous as it is now, but I still remember that a lot of the more hardcore RWNJ’s shut their pieholes after that atrocity.

30 Kragar  Jun 21, 2015 1:02:13am
31 unproven innocence  Jun 21, 2015 1:15:09am

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

And Adam Lanza.

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Found some white guys with bowl cuts: google.com

32 Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2015 1:30:29am
33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 21, 2015 1:33:23am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Twitter is shamelessly biased towards the Left does not allow us to dox people or spread our bigoted lies and thinly veiled threats without consequence and should lose our Patriot patronage

FTFY

34 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 21, 2015 3:10:42am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Twitter is shamelessly biased towards the Left and should lose our Patriot patronage

I didn’t know that Knutsen plays for New England,

35 CuriousLurker  Jun 21, 2015 3:39:24am

*blinks, rubs eyes*

Um… lolwut?

It’s WAY too early for this idiocy. I’m going back to bed….

36 Tigger2  Jun 21, 2015 3:47:02am

re: #35 CuriousLurker

*blinks, rubs eyes*

Um… lolwut?

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It’s WAY too early for this idiocy. I’m going back to bed….

Larry you Republicans say every Muslim is a Terrorist so why shouldn’t people say that everyone that supports the Confederate flag is a racist. Turn about is fair play.

Really myself I would say the people that think the supporters of the Confederate flag are racist have a better case.

37 CuriousLurker  Jun 21, 2015 3:58:41am

re: #36 Tigger2

Larry you Republicans say every Muslim is a Terrorist so why shouldn’t people say that everyone that supports the Confederate flag is a racist. Turn about is fair play.

Heh, someone tried to point out to him that yeah, sure, that works if you’re talking about Muslims that support the ISIS flag. Didn’t make a dent, they always have some derptastic, illogical, historically inaccurate answer ready.

Like I said yesterday, they always want to make everything about Muslims.

*smh*

38 Tigger2  Jun 21, 2015 4:02:54am

re: #37 CuriousLurker

Heh, someone tried to point out to him that yeah, sure, if you’re talking about Muslims that support the ISIS flag. Didn’t make a dent, they always have some derptastic, illogical, historically inaccurate answer ready.

Like I said yesterday, they always want to make everything about Muslims.

*smh*

They just live in their own world, and if you aren’t crazy you don’t get in.

39 CuriousLurker  Jun 21, 2015 4:05:39am

Oh dear, now I’ve woken the feline overlords. *sigh*

BBL, time to serve them breakfast….

40 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 21, 2015 4:27:27am

re: #36 Tigger2

Larry you Republicans say every Muslim is a Terrorist so why shouldn’t people say that everyone that supports the Confederate flag is a racist. Turn about is fair play.

Really myself I would say the people that think the supporters of the Confederate flag are racist have a better case.

There is a different between Muslims and Islamists. They sometimes use the same symbols.

There is a difference between people who want to celebrate their history and heritage and people who promote white supremacy and do not shy from using intimidation, threats and even violence to promote their views. They sometimes use the same symbols.

But that is too much nuance for Internet rants. You either fully support me or you are a total looser (sic), jerk, taker, terrorst sympathizer, socialist, secularist, moocher, etc…

41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2015 4:35:10am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a different between Muslims and Islamists. They sometimes use the same symbols.

There is a difference between people who want to celebrte their history and heritage and people who promote white supremacy and do not shy from using intimidation, threats and even violence to promote their views. They sometimes use the same symbols.

But that is too much nuance for Internet rants. You either fully support me or you are a total looser (sic), jerk, taker, terrorst sympathizer, socialist, secularist, moocher, etc…

…Social Justice Warrior

42 William Lewis  Jun 21, 2015 4:37:43am

I’m so sorry but to me that flag requires as little subtlety as the hakenkreuz flag of more recent memory…

43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 21, 2015 4:40:37am

re: #42 William Lewis

I’m so sorry but to me that flag requires as little subtlety as the hakenkreuz flag of more recent memory…

There is a distinction between individuals who fought for the Stars and Bars out of a sincere but misguided sense of the justice of ther cause, and cynical, exploitative leaders who use it to express their views of white supremacy and Confederate revisionism.

Which is why the symbol should never be associated with any governmental body.

44 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 5:45:23am

re: #26 Targetpractice

What’s been amusing to watch is the “patriots” who want to portray burning Old Glory as something only a liberal would do arguing that there’s nothing wrong with flying a Confederate flag.

I’ve seen a lot of that stupidity elsewhere. Dylann Root can’t be a conservative! He’s burning the American flag! Only libruls do that!

I’ve also seen some variation of the Libruls/Democrats are the party of the KKK and the Confederacy. All those Confederate and racist symbols make this kid is a librul! ever since those photos were found.

These people are certifiable.

45 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 5:49:50am

The derp just goes on and on…

(Don’t bother replying to PatriotTweetz it’s just an aotumatic retweet bot

46 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 5:51:53am
47 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 5:54:48am

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

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To quote the The West Wing, “is there an epidemic of flag burning going on that I’m not aware of?”

48 Tigger2  Jun 21, 2015 5:59:52am

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

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It just shows he’s given up the American flag for the Confederate flag he seems to love so much. So that only one party supports burning the flag BS goes out the window. Seems like a republican can burn one if he thinks it doesn’t support his racist views.

49 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 6:00:13am

It ain’t just a river in Egypt.

50 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 6:02:06am

You know, I really have to bite my tongue sometimes to not use the r-word and offend someone on my side.

Is simpleton an acceptable alternative?

51 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 6:06:38am

re: #50 Timothy Watson

The only “r” word I can think of is radical. And that is one word to describe that person.

52 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 6:12:04am

re: #51 PhillyPretzel

The only “r” word I can think of is radical. And that is one word to describe that person.

“Retard” is the one I’m referring to.

53 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 6:13:56am

re: #52 Timothy Watson

“Retard” is the one I’m referring to.

Retard
Racist
Republican
Regressive

They all mean the same thing.

54 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 6:14:29am

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

True.

55 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 6:28:23am

Darn. Another entry in Philly Pretzel’s thread killers. :(

56 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 6:34:17am
57 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 6:38:09am

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

Darn. Another entry in Philly Pretzel’s thread killers. :(

Take this shovel.

58 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 6:38:57am

re: #57 Varek Raith

::: taking shovel and digging a hole :::

59 Tigger2  Jun 21, 2015 6:42:52am

re: #56 Lidane

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Well that’s sure not going to add any fuel to the fire of the problem she has with so many people being mad because of the Confederate flag flying over her State Capital. Some people are just stupid as hell and she is definitely one of them.

60 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 6:58:31am

Gonna need a bigger shovel.

61 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 6:59:51am

::: looking up “backhoes” in online yellow pages :::

62 sagehen  Jun 21, 2015 7:00:11am

re: #56 Lidane

Roan Garcia-Quintana said the group, the Council of Conservative Citizens, “supports Caucasian heritage” but denied that it is “racist.”

“Is it racist to be proud of your own heritage? Is it racist to want to keep your own heritage pure?” Garcia-Quintana said in an interview

So when he speaks of “pure” Caucasian heritage, does he mean Irish, German, Italian, Swedish, Greek, Russian, French? If various kinds of Europeans mix and blend, is that “pure”?

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Garcia-Quintana does not consider himself Latino, but a descendant of the Spaniards who settled Cuba.

Alrighty then.

63 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 7:05:38am

re: #62 sagehen

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Garcia-Quintana does not consider himself Latino, but a descendant of the Spaniards who settled Cuba.

By that logic, I’m not Latina, but a descendant of the Spaniards that settled in Mexico. Never mind the hundreds of years that came after that. I’m somehow Spanish, not Mexican-American.

Pfft. What a self-hating maroon.

64 Eventual Carrion  Jun 21, 2015 7:07:10am

re: #61 PhillyPretzel

::: looking up “backhoes” in online yellow pages :::

Don’t want to be a bro with no hoe?

65 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 7:07:29am

re: #63 Lidane

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By that logic, I’m not Latina, but a descendant of the Spaniards that settled in Mexico. Never mind the hundreds of years that came after that. I’m somehow Spanish, not Mexican.

What a self-hating maroon.

I would love for this guy to be DNA tested and his stupid crap proven wrong. Everyone is mixed someway, somehow. There is no such thing as “racially pure.” My favorite was that white supremacist who tried to start a whites only colony who was revealed to be at least 1/8 Sub-Saharan African.

66 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 21, 2015 7:19:27am

Seriously:

67 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 7:21:22am

re: #66 JadeHelmCurious

Seriously:

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Yep. Morfuckingon.

68 Doofus  Jun 21, 2015 7:22:40am
Dumb and Dumber

For those of us (including me) who don’t know why it is called a bowl cut.

69 Eventual Carrion  Jun 21, 2015 7:22:50am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yep. Morfuckingon.

Morfuckingan

70 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 7:24:38am

re: #69 Eventual Carrion

Morfuckingan

Get a brain.//

71 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 21, 2015 7:27:33am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Young, white, bowl cut, looks like a donkey kicked him … probably fucks jelly doughnuts.

Not a bowl cut. It is a thing to grow long bangs and keep moving the hair with your hands (because there is hair over your eyes - duh!) creating a flip effect. As seen on the show on MTV called Two-A-Days.

72 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 7:28:19am

Bowl cut and the so called skater’s cut are one and the same right?

73 Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2015 7:34:32am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Translation of Ms. Knutsen’s tweet. People who shouldn’t have any voice in anything are talking back to me. I’m going some place where I don’t have to put up with differing opinions.

The so called conservatives are such pussies.

74 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 21, 2015 7:36:19am

There seems to be a correlation between love of Stars and Bars to outrage if a minority or leftist burns and American flag.

Which is weird, as Stars and Bars was a battle flag in the Civil war against the American flag.

75 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 7:40:35am

Calling all lizard cooks… I’m looking for good soup recipes, specifically ones that can be pureed. My best friend had all of her top teeth extracted on Friday in prep for dentures that she has to wait about 6 weeks for. I don’t want her limited to cottage cheese and smoothies. Her taste buds shouldn’t have to suffer.

I made Broccoli Cheese soup yesterday that was OMG delicious and today I’m making Bean and Bacon. Also on the list is Tomato Basil, Black Bean Chili, and Cream of Chicken. Ideas and recipes would be welcome!

76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2015 7:40:50am

re: #73 Romantic Heretic

Translation of Ms. Knutsen’s tweet. People who shouldn’t have any voice in anything are talking back to me. I’m going some place where I don’t have to put up with differing opinions.

The so called conservatives are such pussies.

Disagreeing with them also infringes on their rights of free speech, dontcha know?

77 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 7:45:13am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Disagreeing with them also infringes on their rights of free speech, dontcha know?

“You’re trying to silence me!”

Only if you don’t like being called an idiot. Otherwise, proceed at will.

78 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 7:46:44am

The only people who can claim “Caucasian” heritage are those whose ancestors lived in the Caucasus. It’s actually a multi-ethnic region.

79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2015 7:48:09am

re: #77 allegro

“You’re trying to silence me!”

Only if you don’t like being called an idiot. Otherwise, proceed at will.

They really do not like any pushback at all. Besides screaming about silencing them, they either duck the objections, move the goalposts, or call the opposition names. Trying to debate someone like that is pointless.

80 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 7:48:36am

Just when you thought Dim Jim’s BFF Kristinn could possibly be any dumber than Jim==>

81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2015 7:51:49am

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

The only people who can claim “Caucasian” heritage are those whose ancestors lived in the Caucasus. It’s actually a multi-ethnic region.

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Neither “Caucasian” nor “white” has any real meaning, anyway. Both are based on antiquated concepts of genetics and human origins.

82 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 7:54:20am

During this morning’s dog walk I noticed that the neighbor’s Dixie Swastika flag was gone. Methinks the management had some words with her since I doubt she had the sense to take it down on her own. Good.

83 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 21, 2015 7:54:23am

re: #80 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, caught another moron equating Dylann Roof with Ferguson yesterday. Summarized as ‘both want to destroy America, not work to make it better.’

It’s peak wingnut, equivalent to ‘Hitler = Socialist’ You can’t really reason with such fuckwittery.

84 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 7:56:22am

re: #75 allegro

Calling all lizard cooks… I’m looking for good soup recipes, specifically ones that can be pureed. My best friend had all of her top teeth extracted on Friday in prep for dentures that she has to wait about 6 weeks for. I don’t want her limited to cottage cheese and smoothies. Her taste buds shouldn’t have to suffer.

I made Broccoli Cheese soup yesterday that was OMG delicious and today I’m making Bean and Bacon. Also on the list is Tomato Basil, Black Bean Chili, and Cream of Chicken. Ideas and recipes would be welcome!

Pretty much any gazpacho soup can be pureed. And since they’re traditionally served cold, you can get creative with ingredients.

Butternut squash soup is great too.

85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2015 8:01:00am

re: #84 Lidane

Pretty much any gazpacho soup can be pureed. And since they’re traditionally served cold, you can get creative with ingredients.

Butternut squash soup is great too.

Hummus is another possibility, and mashed avocados, too.

86 Jayleia  Jun 21, 2015 8:03:25am

re: #75 allegro

Cilantro Vegetable Soup: never tried it pureed before, but I think it might work. Its been years since I’ve made this, but it impressed a person that used to teach gourmet cooking…

One bunch freshly chopped cilantro
One bag of frozen veggies
A clove of garlic
Rice/Beans/Lentils
Soup base (vegetable, chicken or turkey)
Bay leaves

Combine everything but the garlic, simmer that separately…add the garlic and remove the bay leaves before serving. You can add chicken too, if its shredded.

Another REALLY good soup that can be served hot or cold is Avgolemono, hot for a nice dinner soup, cold for a morning wake-up

4 cups chicken broth
1/4 cup uncooked orzo (or rice or pastina)
Salt and pepper to taste
3 eggs
3 tablespoons lemon juice

1. In a large saucepan, bring the broth to a boil.
2. Add the orzo, rice, or pastina and cook until tender but still al dente, about 7 minutes (20, if using rice). Season with the salt and pepper and reduce heat to low; simmer.
3. Meanwhile, in a medium bowl, whisk together the eggs and lemon juice until smooth.
4. Ladle about 1 cup of the hot broth into the egg-and-lemon mixture, then whisk to combine.
5. Add the mixture back to the simmering saucepan. Stir just until the soup becomes opaque and thickens as the eggs cook, 1 to 2 minutes. Add more salt and pepper, if desired, and serve.

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2015 8:04:14am

re: #75 allegro

Calling all lizard cooks… I’m looking for good soup recipes, specifically ones that can be pureed. My best friend had all of her top teeth extracted on Friday in prep for dentures that she has to wait about 6 weeks for. I don’t want her limited to cottage cheese and smoothies. Her taste buds shouldn’t have to suffer.

I made Broccoli Cheese soup yesterday that was OMG delicious and today I’m making Bean and Bacon. Also on the list is Tomato Basil, Black Bean Chili, and Cream of Chicken. Ideas and recipes would be welcome!

You can go that way with lentil soups as well. Most of the recipes I have recommend blending some of it as a way to get a thicker texture. You can just go all the way.

88 stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2015 8:05:13am

Russell Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, calls for the flag to come down.

The Confederate States of America was not simply about limited government and local autonomy; the Confederate States of America was constitutionally committed to the continuation, with protections of law, to a great evil. The moral enormity of the slavery question is one still viscerally felt today, especially by the descendants of those who were enslaved and persecuted.
…
The Confederate Battle Flag may mean many things, but with those things it represents a defiance against abolition and against civil rights. The symbol was used to enslave the little brothers and sisters of Jesus, to bomb little girls in church buildings, to terrorize preachers of the gospel and their families with burning crosses on front lawns by night.

89 stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2015 8:09:44am

re: #88 stpaulbear

The SBC still plans on civil disobedience if teh gays get to marry, so it’s not like they’ve come around on human rights…

90 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 8:10:18am
91 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 8:11:16am

re: #35 CuriousLurker

92 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 21, 2015 8:16:10am
93 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 8:17:36am

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

94 Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2015 8:21:01am

re: #35 CuriousLurker

*blinks, rubs eyes*

Um… lolwut?

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Answer: Yes
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95 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2015 8:23:38am

And South Carolina went with the battle flag instead of the Palmetto Flag or Bonnie Blue Flag when they did the redesign because they *wanted* a readily identified and understood racist symbol as a sign of defiance and intimidation. Doesn’t work (unless you’re trying to be stealthy) if you use a symbol that no one associates with the racist cause without doing more research.

96 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:30:45am

re: #84 Lidane

Pretty much any gazpacho soup can be pureed. And since they’re traditionally served cold, you can get creative with ingredients.

Butternut squash soup is great too.

Excellent ideas! She’s not a fan of cucumbers, a lot, but I made a cuke-free gazpacho a while back that she loved. Thanks!

97 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:33:22am

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hummus is another possibility, and mashed avocados, too.

Hmmm, hummus soup has some real possibilities. Gotta think on that one. I got some avocados to smash, season and plop on the back bean chili to garnish.

98 Snarknado!  Jun 21, 2015 8:34:58am

re: #97 allegro

Cream of mushroom! Pureeing probably isn’t a great idea, but you can use mushrooms chopped small enough that you don’t need to chew them.

Also cream of potato.

99 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:37:23am

re: #86 Jayleia

Thank you! The cilantro veggie is a fer sher must try. The Avegolomono sounds interestingly citrusy and with the eggs a kind of liquid eggs benedict. Must try that one as well.

100 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 8:38:08am

re: #93 Timothy Watson

Oh, he’ll never go for that.

101 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:38:29am

re: #87 Feline Fearless Leader

You can go that way with lentil soups as well. Most of the recipes I have recommend blending some of it as a way to get a thicker texture. You can just go all the way.

Good idea, thanks!

102 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:39:49am

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

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No, Larry he did not but he certainly was inspired by the racism and white supremacy that flag stands for. What a pathetic dense piece of shit.

103 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:41:15am

re: #89 stpaulbear

The SBC still plans on civil disobedience if teh gays get to marry, so it’s not like they’ve come around on human rights…

Oh no of course and the SBC lately has been trying to change their image. I mean this is nice but it doesn’t take away from yeah the fact they’re bigoted and exist for the simple reason that Southern Baptists found slavery justified on religious terms.

104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 21, 2015 8:41:29am

re: #92 GlutenFreeJesus

Another reason that he slipped under the radar: his views are almost
indistinguishable from what you find all over the Internet and broadcast media

105 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 8:42:01am

The amount of spin and denial being generated by the RW on the church attack are simply astounding.

106 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:42:08am

re: #80 The Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Dim Jim’s BFF Kristinn could possibly be any dumber than Jim==>

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Expect they didn’t murder people. Dylann isn’t an asshole because he burned the American flag, he’s an asshole because he killed 9 innocent people in cold blood. Sorry that chaps your ass Kristinn but it does not make the two anything alike.

107 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:42:22am

re: #98 Snarknado!

Cream of mushroom! Pureeing probably isn’t a great idea, but you can use mushrooms chopped small enough that you don’t need to chew them.

Also cream of potato.

She hates mushrooms, though I have well hidden them from her before and gotten away with it. But oooo yes, potato leek soup. Yum. Thanks!

108 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:42:57am

re: #105 Varek Raith

The amount of spin and denial being generated by the RW on the church attack are simply astounding.

I am no longer astounded by them. Conservatism is a cult to them and it’s something that can never be wrong only wronged by RINOs, liberals, progressives, socialists, etc.

109 TedStriker  Jun 21, 2015 8:44:41am

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

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And you both misspelled “Confederate”.

Sorry, but I’m ROFL…

111 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 8:48:11am

So, I decided to watch Meet The Press wanting to see what some would be saying about Charleston. I also knew something would piss me off.

So, Chuckles runs some video on guns and their impact on the user now in prison for killing someone and addressing a camera in an empty room. Both young men were very moved about what they had done and how it has effected them. Both seemed truly sorry and remorseful, more or less calling themselves stupid for thinking guns gave them identity and power missing in their backgrounds. Both were youngish Black men.

Then he talks to the panel and Eugene Robinson biting his tongue a bit points out that both guys in the video were black and Chuckles dances around it and says that wasn’t their intention to show it was a Black issue.

Later when he goes to check on feedback to the program it must have been obvious many viewers were like WTF with the only Blacks being shown about gun problems. Again Chuck says it wasn’t their intention.

Then he goes back to the panel and talks about race issues and the president having a hard time discussing the issues. When he gets back to Robinson, Robinson gets a dig in that it might help if they didn’t show just blacks with guns and discussing race. Ouch!

Really MTP and Chuckles Todd…you had the time to show two guys in your ‘touching” bit on how these guys feel today and you couldn’t think to have a White guy and a Black guy? You couldn’t figure out, especially this weekend that would be a problem. Then pull the damn spot.

You want to know why we have race problems in this country? There you go. Too busy picking fleas out of each others heads to see the problems right there in their own production department. And with their dimwit host.

And oh yeah. Mike Huckleberrybee was on too. I’m not going to bother typing much about that jerk, other than to point out that he said absolutely no one in this country is giving any support to Roof and what he did. Get out more asshole. And if you liberals are going to get all high and mighty about the Pope mentioning climate issues, then you also need to follow what he says about abortion.

As a nation we are growing more and more dense and more into our own individual thinking and can’t see there are other people.

112 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 8:49:13am

re: #110 Varek Raith

WTF? NBC’s Chuck Todd airs ‘color-blind’ segment with all-black shooters to address Charleston massacre

Yeah…I missed your posting this as I was too busy typing my comment just below yours.

113 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:50:14am

We’re too cowardly to admit that we have a racism problem in this country because we’re afraid of being shouted down about being “too PC.”

114 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 8:51:20am

re: #112 ObserverArt

Yeah…I missed your posting this as I was too busy typing my comment just below yours.

I just did a simple copy and paste.
Your post had thought behind it.
:)

115 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 8:53:40am

re: #114 Varek Raith

I just did a simple copy and paste.
Your post had thought behind it.
:)

I have a problem with that, yes!

Being thoughtful and sensitive and wanting to be upfront about things gets me in trouble all the time. Too late in life to think about it now…

116 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:53:46am

Bring up racism as a white person and you’re accused of “white guilt”, “a reverse racist”, “PC Nazi.” Let’s talk about fucking racism in this country. It’s cowardly to ignore and to just brush off legitimate questions about racism as “PC run amok” is a form of cultural and intellectual cowardice.

117 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:53:47am

I’m refusing to turn the teevee on this morning. Thanks to y’all for reporting on it so I don’t have to watch and get crazy.

118 HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2015 8:54:07am

re: #117 allegro

I’m refusing to turn the teevee on this morning. Thanks to y’all for reporting on it so I don’t have to watch and get crazy.

Ditto

119 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 8:55:17am

re: #109 TedStriker

Yeah. Still-it’s the thought that counts-especially against them eejets.

120 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 8:55:24am

re: #117 allegro

I’m refusing to turn the teevee on this morning. Thanks to y’all for reporting on it so I don’t have to watch and get crazy.

I’m watching Minecraft vids.
Real life is such bullshit at the moment.

121 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 8:58:08am

re: #120 Varek Raith

I’m watching Minecraft vids.
Real life is such bullshit at the moment.

I’m cooking and salivating over the nomolicious fragrance of simmering bean and bacon soup. Gonna go out and grill chicken and veggies later. Hey, I still have teeth and plan to use them.

122 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 9:01:36am

Happy father’s day to the pops here.

Trying to get enough coffee in me before I call my dads.

123 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 9:11:47am

re: #121 allegro

I’m cooking and salivating over the nomolicious fragrance of simmering bean and bacon soup. Gonna go out and grill chicken and veggies later. Hey, I still have teeth and plan to use them.

Ooo, a creamy grilled chicken, onion, and red bell pepper soup sounds kinda amazing.

124 Jayleia  Jun 21, 2015 9:17:37am

re: #99 allegro

Tell me how they work out for you, my first exposure to Avgolemono was at a local greek restaurant…I could slurp that soup by the barrel.

125 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 9:20:31am

re: #124 Jayleia

Tell me how they work out for you, my first exposure to Avgolemono was at a local greek restaurant…I could slurp that soup by the barrel.

I will! This is fun. I’ve never made a lot of soups before outside of the basics so this is seriously expanding my repertoir.

126 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 9:22:26am

Talked to both dads. FYI my step dad who’s in the hospital is on his way to hopefully full recovery. No more breathing machine, been slowly up and walking, going to rehab hospital tomorrow. So your thoughtful vibes were felt, thank you lizards.

127 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 9:22:39am

OK, Lindemann’s solo project is a bit … different.

(Not very SFW and all that.)

…

128 Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2015 9:23:49am

I never watch Sunday roundtables anymore. There is nothing to learn, it’s a place for business interests to float bullshit platitudes to a gullible public. I think the ratio is 6 RWNJ : 1 “liberal”. I do read the Cliff’s notes on the interwebs though. Takes about 5 minutes and I don’t have to listen to the spewing propaganda.

129 Bear  Jun 21, 2015 9:30:27am

Guess today is the longest day, Sun up to Sun down, of the year. Winter is on the way.

Otherwise a happy Fathers Day to all.

130 Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2015 9:32:29am

re: #127 Nyet

I like the video, song structure is too safe though.

131 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 9:36:21am
132 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 9:43:28am

Chuck outdid himself. smfh

133 witw  Jun 21, 2015 9:44:11am

re: #75 allegro

This could be made without the fish as a vegetable soup.Red Pepper and Red Snapper Soup
1-1/4 lbs fresh or frozen skinless red snapper, orange roughy or other firm-fleshed fish
2-1/4 cups coarsely chopped red sweet peppers (3 medium)
1 cup chopped shallots or onion
2 tablespoons olive oil
3 14 oz cans reduced sodium chicken broth (5-1/4 cups total)
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/8 teaspoon ground red pepper
1/2 cup snipped fresh Italian parsley

Thaw fish, if frozen. Rinse fish, pat dry. Cut fish into 1 inch pieces; set aside. In a large sauce pan or Dutch oven cook sweet peppers and shallots in hot oil, over medium heat for 5 minutes. Carefully add 1 can of the broth. Bring to boiling; reduce heat. Simmer covered for 20 minutes or until peppers are very tender. Remove from heat, cool slightly. Pour half the sweet pepper mixture into a blender container. Cover and blend until nearly smooth. Repeat with remaining mixture. Return puree to sauce pan. Add remaining 2 cans chicken broth, salt, black and red pepper. Bring to boiling; reduce heat. Add fish. Simmer covered 5 minutes until fish flakes when tested with fork. Stir once or twice. Stir in snipped parsley.

134 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 21, 2015 9:44:26am

re: #110 Varek Raith

What? No mention of one of the 2 white guys still on the loose? One of which is a cop killer?

135 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 9:47:58am

re: #133 witw

Yum! Fish is soft enough that if I cut it into small pieces, she should be able to eat with no problem in a week or so when she gets healed up some. Thank you!

136 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 9:48:38am

re: #117 allegro

I’m refusing to turn the teevee on this morning. Thanks to y’all for reporting on it so I don’t have to watch and get crazy.

Same here. Plus I have work to do for The Client Who Shall Not Be Named. I should’ve had this done by yesterday, but there’s an entire ad set I can’t find. This is driving me bonkers.

I’d rather focus on work and on trying to be in a good headspace than having the Sunday talk shows piss me off.

137 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 9:50:04am

re: #132 #FergusonFireside

Chuck outdid himself. smfh

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Yeah, because only white guys can be neutral. Smh

138 A Cranky One  Jun 21, 2015 9:50:05am

So today the discussion covers everything from soup to nuts. ;)

139 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 9:51:24am

re: #138 A Cranky One

So today the discussion covers everything from soup to nuts. ;)

+1

140 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 9:52:31am

Walmart Rockstars Absolutely Slay It On A Cheap $22 Disney Acoustic Guitar

…

141 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 9:53:52am

OUTRAGE!

142 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 9:54:24am

re: #141 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

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BIG GAY HAS TAKEN OVER IBM!!1!

143 whitebeach  Jun 21, 2015 9:55:35am

re: #75 allegro

Been through this myself recently. After a few days of tender gums your friend should be able to eat things besides soups fairly easily. For instance a hamburger covered with caramelized onions. Just not a hamburger in a bun with lettuce and sliced tomatoes as that requires biting unless you cut it into small pieces.

144 A Cranky One  Jun 21, 2015 9:57:43am

PZ Myers mentions LGF and links. Also says the CoCC website is back.

Pharyngula

145 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 9:58:13am

re: #75 allegro

Try Cooks Illustrated. I know they have quite a few recipes and quite a few are purees.

cooksillustrated.com

146 whitebeach  Jun 21, 2015 9:59:06am

re: #135 allegro

Oops, see you’ve already got it covered. Good on ya and your friend.

147 Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2015 9:59:57am

Ted Cruz shows his sensitive side regarding the Charleston murders.

“You know the great thing about the state of Iowa is, I’m pretty sure you all define gun control the same way we do in Texas — hitting what you aim at,” Cruz said at a town hall meeting Friday in Red Oak.

huffingtonpost.com

148 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:00:37am

re: #143 whitebeach

Been through this myself recently. After a few days of tender gums your friend should be able to eat things besides soups fairly easily. For instance a hamburger covered with caramelized onions. Just not a hamburger in a bun with lettuce and sliced tomatoes as that requires biting unless you cut it into small pieces.

That’s really good to know. I was thinking that I could fix her salads like chicken, tuna, or ham whirred up good in the food processor that she could do maybe on Saltines. Devilled eggs, risotto, stuff like that. Thanks!

149 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2015 10:00:51am

re: #75 allegro

I just gotta say, you are a wonderful friend. :)

Talked to my dad this morning already, we’ll call his after we roll out on our way to the land of no internet and vacationing. I pray my new users don’t find too many bugs. I think the news disconnect will do me some good, although I will keep my fingers crossed that the SCotUS decisions don’t muck it all up.

Wishing you all well, Lizards, and I’ll be back in a week or so.

150 A Cranky One  Jun 21, 2015 10:02:42am

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hope you have a great time and the only bugs you need to worry about fly or crawl.

151 PhillyPretzel  Jun 21, 2015 10:03:17am

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Enjoy your trip. :)

152 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2015 10:03:27am

re: #150 A Cranky One

Hope you have a great time and the only bugs you need to worry about fly or crawl.

I just verified that the e-mail autoresponder works on the address for the app, so …best I can do!

153 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:03:27am

re: #146 whitebeach

Oops, see you’ve already got it covered. Good on ya and your friend.

Not really. I was hoping someone who had first hand knowledge would share their experience. I really appreciate the information!

154 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 10:04:43am

re: #142 Timothy Watson

re: #141 Lidane

IBM will probably scale back hiring in that center now-and Ginny Rometty will tell that straight to Jindhal’s face-and THAT will really burn.

155 urbanmeemaw  Jun 21, 2015 10:10:37am

re: #87 Feline Fearless Leader

You can go that way with lentil soups as well. Most of the recipes I have recommend blending some of it as a way to get a thicker texture. You can just go all the way.

Also, too, though I don’t have the recipe, my daughter makes a mean baked potato soup that is very easy and would work for your friend. (It’s very rich, however - cheese and sour cream are involved).

156 makeitstop  Jun 21, 2015 10:11:54am

Country artist Jonathan Byrd weighs in with an epic rant on Facebook:

It’s time to disturb the peace again. Here’s a more recent declaration:

“Take down the flag. Take it down now.

Put it in a museum. Inscribe beneath it the years 1861-2015. Move forward. Abandon this charlatanism. Drive out this cult of death and chains. Save your lovely souls. Move forward. Do it now.” - Ta-Nahisi Coates

It doesn’t threaten your heritage. You take off your hat for a lady. You clean the shit off your boots before you walk into a church. It’s just a matter of respect. Admit that your perspective might feel right and be wrong. Take it down, South Carolina. Just for today. A few days if you can stand it. Then put it back up if you must. I know how it is. I feel the pressure not to say anything, not to get involved. Who am I? I’m just a singer with no Grammies or gold records. I should be happy with what I have and not roil the waters.

I may reach ten thousand people with this post. Maybe thirty thousand.

And there just may be one of my fans who is outraged, one guy who can’t humble himself enough to hear anyone else’s truth without getting red in the face and typing his opinion against me. One guy who will never come to another Jonathan Byrd show. Or maybe there are five. Or ten.

But you know what? Fuck that guy. Fuck all those guys. Let them hang their rebel flags from their prefab sheds where they hide their liquor and their porn from their wives. We don’t owe them anything. We don’t owe the past anything. We owe the future everything. Take it down.

I know you won’t. But I hope I’m wrong just like I didn’t think we’d ever elect a black president. Step into the future. Take it down.

For a country artist, this is taking a major stand. Good for him. Go read it all, it’s wonderful.

157 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:13:34am

re: #155 urbanmeemaw

Also, too, though I don’t have the recipe, my daughter makes a mean baked potato soup that is very easy and would work for your friend. (It’s very rich, however - cheese and sour cream are involved).

She would love that. Don’t think I need a recipe, just make potato soup and add bacon, sour cream, green onions, cheese… oh yum.

158 No Country For Old Haters  Jun 21, 2015 10:13:45am

re: #34 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thanks again for pointing me to the Fallout 3 tips. Changing the processor thread INI setting eliminated most of the crashes, and a k-lite reinstall fixed my audio stuttering issues. I’m having a lot of fun this weekend with this game. It’s nice to take a break from the real world.

159 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 10:15:31am
160 EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2015 10:15:51am

re: #42 William Lewis

I’m so sorry but to me that flag requires as little subtlety as the hakenkreuz flag of more recent memory…

The confederate flag really is the Dixie Swastika.

161 urbanmeemaw  Jun 21, 2015 10:16:11am

re: #132 #FergusonFireside

Chuck outdid himself. smfh

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Chuck never misses a chance to criticize President Obama.

Here is the email I sent to NBC News:

Chuck Todd’s segment in which he interviewed only African American prisoners is beyond the pale.

In another context, that segment could be appropriate. But I agree with Eugene Robinson’s assertion that the segment in context of shootings in Charleston not only doesn’t make sense but it again serves to demonize African American men who commit crimes while underplaying white men who commit crimes.

What is your agenda here?

162 Mike Lamb  Jun 21, 2015 10:18:14am

re: #158 No Country For Old Haters

Thanks again for pointing me to the Fallout 3 tips. Changing the processor thread INI setting eliminated most of the crashes, and a k-lite reinstall fixed my audio stuttering issues. I’m having a lot of fun this weekend with this game. It’s nice to take a break from the real world.

Wherein reality sucks enough ass that a post-holocaust environment is a pleasant distraction.

163 urbanmeemaw  Jun 21, 2015 10:18:22am

re: #157 allegro

Yup! That will work!

164 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 10:19:57am

The CCC Website is back up and Operational.

165 Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2015 10:21:07am

re: #158 No Country For Old Haters

Thanks again for pointing me to the Fallout 3 tips. Changing the processor thread INI setting eliminated most of the crashes, and a k-lite reinstall fixed my audio stuttering issues. I’m having a lot of fun this weekend with this game. It’s nice to take a break from the real world.

Speaking of RPGs, I need to get back to my half-orc swashbuckler in Baldur’s Gate 2.

166 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 10:23:53am

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Speaking of RPGs, I need to get back to my half-orc swashbuckler in Baldur’s Gate 2.

I’m trying to beat the Heart Key team at the last level of the Watcher’s Keep. Damn.

167 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 10:32:18am

re: #158 No Country For Old Haters

Thanks again for pointing me to the Fallout 3 tips. Changing the processor thread INI setting eliminated most of the crashes, and a k-lite reinstall fixed my audio stuttering issues. I’m having a lot of fun this weekend with this game. It’s nice to take a break from the real world.

TAKE THAT MEGATON!
Wait, what?
/

168 Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2015 10:33:00am

re: #164 Eric The Fruit Bat

The CCC Website is back up and Operational.

Did they scrub all their comments?

169 The War TARDIS  Jun 21, 2015 10:33:22am

re: #158 No Country For Old Haters

I think my issue is different.

It happens on both Skyrim, and Europa Universalis.

Essentially, I will start playing the game, as I play, the fans will go faster and faster. When it gets fast enough, it will decide to cut out. Sometimes, it will return to the game. Other times, it will crash to desktop. And sometimes, the fan will really kick into high gear, and the computer will “shut down.” Nothing comeing up, and the screen says no input. But the Lights for the computer will still be on.

170 Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2015 10:34:43am

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

Did they scrub all their comments?

Then they’d be a BBQ recipe site.

171 b_sharp  Jun 21, 2015 10:34:53am

re: #169 The War TARDIS

I think my issue is different.

It happens on both Skyrim, and Europa Universalis.

Essentially, I will start playing the game, as I play, the fans will go faster and faster. When it gets fast enough, it will decide to cut out. Sometimes, it will return to the game. Other times, it will crash to desktop. And sometimes, the fan will really kick into high gear, and the computer will “shut down.” Nothing comeing up, and the screen says no input. But the Lights for the computer will still be on.

Your CPU or GPU is overheating.

172 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 21, 2015 10:35:08am

re: #158 No Country For Old Haters

Thanks again for pointing me to the Fallout 3 tips. Changing the processor thread INI setting eliminated most of the crashes, and a k-lite reinstall fixed my audio stuttering issues. I’m having a lot of fun this weekend with this game. It’s nice to take a break from the real world.

Most welcome. I’m currently taking my breaks from the real world in Fallout: New Vegas. I bought the complete edition on Steam a couple of weeks ago. Playing and modding Elder Scrolls games took up so much time that I was able to pick up complete versions of FO3 and FO:NV for less than forty bucks when I finally got around to them.

A couple of more playthroughs in FO:NV and I’ll start my mod for it. Modding takes my mind off of everything.

173 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 10:35:10am

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

Not that I can tell.

174 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 10:37:25am
175 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:39:41am

re: #174 Dr. Matt

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Do u know what Judy Mozes is? Ignorant and rude.

176 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 10:40:57am
177 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:41:12am

re: #175 allegro

Do u know what Judy Mozes is? Ignorant and rude.

We are sending how many $ to Israel?

178 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 10:41:48am

re: #176 Nyet

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hurr hurr

179 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:41:49am

re: #176 Nyet

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Oh fuck you sideways and back. If?

180 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 21, 2015 10:42:56am

re: #176 Nyet

People who send messages like that would get at least an iota of regard from me if they just owned the fucker rather than coming out with a lukewarm apology.

181 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 10:43:04am

lolwut

182 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 10:44:11am

re: #179 allegro

Oh fuck you sideways and back. If?

“A stupid joke somebody told me……..that I decided to play forward”

183 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 10:45:12am

re: #182 Dr. Matt

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“A stupid joke somebody told me……..that I decided to play forward”

Racist is racist.

184 Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2015 10:45:37am

re: #182 Dr. Matt

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“A stupid joke somebody told me……..that I decided to play forward”

“Sorry you’re so thin skinned you were offended.

185 wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2015 10:45:58am
186 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 10:46:35am

re: #183 #FergusonFireside

IOW, she’s an Israeli member of the GOP. And this is surprising how?

187 #FergusonFireside  Jun 21, 2015 10:46:39am

Gotta get ready for work. It is always a crap shoot, will we be busy as hell or dead men walking?

Father’s day to me isn’t lunch at the Neighborhood Grill, seems more like beer & BBQ at home. We will see.

188 Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2015 10:47:58am
189 wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2015 10:48:41am
190 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 10:48:44am

Because they don’t WANT to appeal to black voters, bub. They know who their voters are:

192 wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2015 10:51:15am

His daughter had a Twitter account the day she was born.

193 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:52:25am

re: #192 wrenchwench

His daughter had a Twitter account the day she was born.

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Love the look on her face. Wow! Big!

194 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 10:52:33am

Time to go after her hebrew tweets and translate them-something tells me she’s digging a deeper hole for herself.

195 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 10:53:47am

re: #188 Ace-o-aces

We decided against delaying the segment because we wanted to show multiple sides of what gun violence does in this country.

What were the “multiple sides”? They only showed incarcerated Black men.

196 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 10:55:26am

re: #195 Dr. Matt

What were the “multiple sides”? They only showed incarcerated Black men.

Seriously. Should rename Meet the Press to Miss the Point.

197 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 10:55:45am

Entitlement.

Image: judy.jpg

199 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 11:00:10am

She seems nice.

200 Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2015 11:01:07am
201 sagehen  Jun 21, 2015 11:05:44am

I just turned on Meet the Press because I want to be as outraged as everyone else (and to cheer for Eugene Robinson)… and I couldn’t help noticing, when they showed the pictures of the AME victims, one of them is a young guy wearing a backwards baseball cap, I think he’s the one that just graduated college, and the picture looks just like one of those facebook snaps the right wing would call “can’t you see what a thug he is?” Will any of the RWNJs notice they react that way to a guy who was at Bible Study?

202 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:05:50am

Clinton should apologize.

Image: Bill+Clinton+Sept+1994+UDC+Magazine0001.jpg

203 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 21, 2015 11:10:58am

Some of Judy Mozes’s tweets translated:

I heard a good joke, silly quoted and it was pure folly. I did not mean, disrespectful and inappropriate. Happens

I messed up, but whether any Polish joke, anxious, etc. Moroccan Jews say racism or mainly afraid ?? husband’s reaction

204 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:11:07am

SCARBOROUGH FAIR LENTIL SOUP

1 medium onion
1 garlic clove, crushed
1 Tbsp. olive oil
3 celery stalks
1 carrot, peeled and sliced
1 c. red lentils
1 c. garbanzo beans, soaked overnight
1 Tbsp. bullion powder
6 c. water
1 can (14 oz.) petite diced tomatoes
1 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. ground cumin
1/2 tsp. ground coriander
1/2 tsp. ground pepper
1/4 tsp. turmeric
2 Tbsp. chopped fresh parsley
1 Tbsp. chopped fresh sage
1 tsp. chopped fresh rosemary
1 Tbsp. chopped fresh thyme

Sauté chopped onion, garlic and celery in olive oil until transparent. Add bullion powder, salt, pepper, cumin, coriander and turmeric. Stir in lentils, carrots, tomatoes, garbanzos and water. Bring to a boil. Turn to simmer and cook for 1 hour. Puree with an immersion blender.

Add parsley, sage, rosemary, thyme and cook for another 1/2 hour.

205 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:11:55am

HURR HURR U JUST HATE COPS!!!!!!

206 sagehen  Jun 21, 2015 11:13:18am

re: #137 allegro

Yeah, because only white guys can be neutral. Smh

Did nobody tell you? Protestant whiteness is the objective standard against which everything else is measured. (who here is old enough to remember when “Catholic” was a “special interest ethnic demographic”?)

207 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 11:14:37am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Sounds wonderful! I have those herbs in my garden too so bragging rights! Thank you!

Giving my handy dandy recipe app a workout today. :)

208 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:17:26am
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209 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:17:46am

In 1999 the Dems tried to push a resolution condemning CCC through the House. The Republicans were against, of course.

210 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 11:18:11am

re: #188 Ace-o-aces

Chuck Todd ✔@chucktodd

The gun violence video we aired on @meetthepress has upset some and I felt those comments deserved a response: nbcnews.to

Well, there is why the NBC News ‘send a response’ site isn’t working.

I tried to send one a couple times and keeps saying I need a valid email. My two main ones must not be good enough. No, now it is obvious they are getting hammered. It is probably slow or they turned it off.

Fucking Todd can’t be any more clueless. He is crying about how the piece on guns is getting slammed and trying to defend by saying they need to offended everyone.

What a lame response. To be expected. I guess I wasn’t too far off in one of my lines though. I told them Todd exhibits all the warmth of a cold greasy taco left in a Buffalo NY snow drift in early January.

I also told them how they could fix the show. Cancel it. It jumped the shark when they put David Gregory in the spot and it is not ever coming back.

211 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:18:17am

re: #207 allegro

Sounds wonderful! I have those herbs in my garden too so bragging rights! Thank you!

Giving my handy dandy recipe app a workout today. :)

You can use canned garbanzo beans if you don’t want to soak dry beans overnight.

212 BeachDem  Jun 21, 2015 11:20:11am

re: #156 makeitstop

Country artist Jonathan Byrd weighs in with an epic rant on Facebook:

For a country artist, this is taking a major stand. Good for him. Go read it all, it’s wonderful.

Good rant—the best thing in the comments was this:

Some Asswipe commenter: Racism is a two way street.

Jonathan Byrd’s great response: Respect is a two way street. Racism is one way, from the oppressor to the oppressed.

213 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:20:48am

I haz A Idiot in my time line

214 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 11:22:25am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

You can use canned garbanzo beans if you don’t want to soak dry beans overnight.

I thought of that. But hey, I’m retired now and got the time. I feel so accomplished when I can claim “It’s all from scratch.” Thanks again!

215 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 11:23:51am

re: #202 Nyet

Clinton should apologize.

Image: Bill+Clinton+Sept+1994+UDC+Magazine0001.jpg

Interestingly, that letter is dated exactly 21 years ago.

216 Kragar  Jun 21, 2015 11:24:51am
217 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:25:19am

re: #214 allegro

I thought of that. But hey, I’m retired now and got the time. I feel so accomplished when I can claim “It’s all from scratch.” Thanks again!

The only time I use dried garbanzos is when I make falafel, the canned ones are too mushy. But they’re fine for soup.

218 sagehen  Jun 21, 2015 11:26:03am

re: #210 ObserverArt

I also told them how they could fix the show. Cancel it. It jumped the shark when they put David Gregory in the spot and it is not ever coming back.

They could fix it instantly by getting Rachael Maddow to moderate.

219 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:26:26am

Making Oven Roasted Chicken Shwarma.

220 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:26:57am

re: #202 Nyet

Clinton should apologize.

Image: Bill+Clinton+Sept+1994+UDC+Magazine0001.jpg

Was not a one time thing, too.

web.archive.org

And Bush was not better:

web.archive.org

221 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 11:29:09am

re: #220 Nyet

Hmm. One letter from 1994, the other from 1996. How many 100th Anniversaries did this group have?

222 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 11:29:20am

re: #218 sagehen

They could fix it instantly by getting Rachael Maddow to moderate.

Yeah. But on Sunday in America on a main channel right before the big Sunday dinner, or getting out of church??? No way.

And I really like Rachel. I hope you understand where I am coming from.

223 BeachDem  Jun 21, 2015 11:30:04am

re: #188 Ace-o-aces

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Chuck Todd’s “response” was pathetic, and totally in keeping with the totality that is Chuck Todd.

224 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2015 11:30:12am

You know what I’m seeing a lot of on Twitter?

Racists retweeting racist tweets by other racists.

Like this one:

@Rob__Base retweeted

225 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:30:17am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Diff. divisions.

226 Jenner7  Jun 21, 2015 11:31:26am
227 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:32:08am

We were talking about Howard Dean recently.

2003:
edition.cnn.com

(on camera): In the state of South Carolina, where you’ll be campaigning, on the state Capitol grounds flies a flag with the insignia of the Confederate flag. Should that come down?

DEAN: I don’t like it, but that’s a matter for the people of South Carolina to settle, not me.

WOODRUFF: So, you wouldn’t urge them to change it?

DEAN: I just said, I don’t like it, but it’s not for somebody from out of the state to fix that problem. That’s an in-state problem.

The same guy who did not hesitate to express his opinion on Park 51.

228 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 11:32:23am
229 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 11:32:25am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

You know what I’m seeing a lot of on Twitter?

Racists retweeting racist tweets by other racists.

Like this one:

@Rob__Base retweeted

[Embedded content]

No, but I’ve seen Republican conservatives get drunk and start shooting their guns at the moon cuz yee-haw. Once one of them shot at a hurricane.

230 Jenner7  Jun 21, 2015 11:33:43am
231 Kragar  Jun 21, 2015 11:34:27am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

232 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 11:34:47am

re: #230 Jenner7

I’m sure Santorum is thinking: “I don’t want to be here, I don’t want to be here, I don’t want to be here…”

233 Jayleia  Jun 21, 2015 11:36:06am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

Blah people all look blah to him

234 Kragar  Jun 21, 2015 11:38:02am
235 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 11:41:08am

Somewhat OT, but you know what really grinds my gears?

Wishing me a Happy Father’s Day when you don’t even know if I have kids. I don’t and in fact my wife and I have struggled with infertility.

236 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 11:43:31am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

In Russia the Army&Navy day is a “men’s day”.

237 stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2015 11:43:43am

The real reason gun owners want guns is just because they like them.

…

Via Balloon Juice and The Washington Post.
I love this. He’s completely right.

238 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 11:44:08am

I sure hope all the people that normally aren’t paying attention to all the stuff really going on is this country at least get to see some of this Charleston story in all its vivid color. Maybe they can use some of these larger and more covered issues to slap themselves in the face for some cold realization.

They need to realize there are two Americas. One preparing to be moving forward, the other breaking off and sliding back, willfully.

Those who do not normally pay attention might find themselves with enough time to make a jump on the forward moving one as it is slow right now. If not now, then the length of the boat ride or the swim in the gulf between the two will be getting exceedingly longer and more dangerous as time goes on.

Their choice. Take the steps to get on and go forward on one.

Or, ride the other one right on back to that same thinking they all started with. Flat earth and their world is about to go over that edge.

239 Kryptik  Jun 21, 2015 11:46:28am

I am consistently amazed and despondent at both the capacity for people to learn either nothing or the exact WRONG thing from incidents like Charleston, and the fact that the media coverage of the entire thing flat out encourages such things.

This is going to be yet another atrocity buried under bullshit, and the spirit of the Confederacy will live on wholeheartedly because the party dedicated to its memory essentially owns all the goddamn mics and cameras

240 ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2015 12:06:15pm

re: #237 stpaulbear

The real reason gun owners want guns is just because they like them.

[Embedded content]

Video

Via Balloon Juice and The Washington Post.
I love this. He’s completely right.

I shouldn’t have spent the time right now to watch that. But earlier at another forum I saw a member post he just got to see Jim Jefferies and he did that bit. So I clicked on it. And I am glad I did. That was one of the funniest yet on point gun rants I have ever seen. I’m sending that one out, and I am the last person to send my friends/family anything from the ‘net. They can use Goggle.

And Jefferies is a damn good comedic actor too. He really sells the characters.

Later LGFers.

241 William Lewis  Jun 21, 2015 12:08:17pm

Allegro - if you still want soup ideas, I can give you my leek-potato soup. Exquisite hot or cold.

242 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 12:12:01pm

Allergy attacks are fun.

243 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 12:14:22pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

Allergy attacks are fun.

I feel you. So far, my allergies have been manageable this year, but I can thank my inhaler, my daily allergy med and my general habit of cleaning my hands regularly for that.

Ragweed is the DEVIL!

244 Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2015 12:15:15pm

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel you. So far, my allergies have been manageable this year, but I can thank my inhaler, my daily allergy med and my general habit of cleaning my hands regularly for that.

Ragweed is the DEVIL!

For me, it’s the eyes.
Everything else, nope.
Eyes on fire? Yep.

245 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2015 12:15:51pm

re: #244 Varek Raith

Same here, along with the occasional chest congestion.

246 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 12:17:44pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

Allergy attacks are fun.

Enjoy. ///

247 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 12:18:23pm

re: #244 Varek Raith

Eyes as a kid, now mostly stuffy nose and coughing.

248 Nyet  Jun 21, 2015 12:18:58pm

re: #247 Nyet

Thankfully only for a few weeks in early spring.

249 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 12:22:05pm

re: #241 William Lewis

Allegro - if you still want soup ideas, I can give you my leek-potato soup. Exquisite hot or cold.

Yes please!

250 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2015 12:26:00pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

Just be happy your allergies don’t involve massive outbreaks of hives.
I have an appointment with an allergist on July 7 to try and figure out to what I’ve suddenly developed this miserable allergy.

251 Lidane  Jun 21, 2015 12:26:53pm

OK. I have given up searching for the missing ad set for The Client Who Shall Not Be Named. I shared what I had (i.e., everything but that one set) with the client contact and told him I’d update everything when I had those numbers. And I CC’d my boss on that email. I also sent a separate email to my boss about that ad set this morning, so I think my bases are covered. Better to give the client something that’s 99% complete than nothing.

Now to do laundry, read a book, and to try and enjoy the rest of my weekend while I wait.

252 allegro  Jun 21, 2015 12:31:12pm

Because I know y’all are waiting anxiously… the bean and bacon soup is done and delivered. What was “meh, at least it’s nutritious” went to “wow! This is superb!” after it was pureed. Like a whole different flavor when every slurp had All The Things. MVT of the kitchen is now my immersion blender.

I’m having a blast. Just lit the grill for chicken and veggies. And fixed a tall fresh mint and lime Mohito cuz it’s hot out there and I can. :D

253 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 21, 2015 12:47:01pm

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sure Santorum is thinking: “I don’t want to be here, I don’t want to be here, I don’t want to be here…”

Are you kidding? I bet you he’s thrilled to have his picture taken there.


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