Lindsey Graham on Charleston Shooter: ‘That’s Mideast Hate’

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The amount of idiocy and tortured rationalizations coming out of the right wing about the Charleston shootings is stunning. But I think Lindsey Graham may just win the prize today for the many layers of bigotry, stupidity and blind denial that he managed to pack into just three words: “That’s Mideast hate.”

No.

Hell no.

This brand of hate is as American as the Ku Klux Klan — as red, white and blue as the Confederate battle flag. It’s white supremacist hate, and this is far from the first time it’s erupted into violence in this country. This is the hate that’s been winked at and surreptitiously fed by right wing politicians for many, many years, people who depend on the “Southern Strategy” of slyly encouraging the racists in the Republican base to win their votes. And it’s kept alive by right wing media like Fox News, who frequently allow extremist loons to spout ugly propaganda and racist incitement to their audience of millions of like-minded bubbas.

Blaming this on “Mideast hate” is so moronically ignorant and bigoted it could only have come from a Republican politician, pandering to the right wing base that never gets tired of this nasty rhetoric.

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609 comments
1 wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2015 4:32:38pm

Lindsay Graham shows:

How to be a big fat bigot in the South without invoking hatred of black people, specifically. For circumstantial reasons.

2 Tigger2  Jun 24, 2015 4:33:32pm

Repost from the last thread.

East Charlotte church fire being investigated as arson
charlotteobserver.com

3 Tigger2  Jun 24, 2015 4:34:27pm

Graham is such a fool.

4 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 4:35:10pm

Every photo I’ve seen of Lindsay today looks like he’s been on a week-long downers and booze bender.

5 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 4:36:27pm

Obviously when Graham said the Mideast, he was referring to Ohio and Michigan…
/

6 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 4:37:01pm

Oh bullshit, Huckleberry Closetcase, this hate is the same fucking strain as that which excused this shit:

7 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 24, 2015 4:37:45pm

re: #4 stpaulbear

Every photo I’ve seen of Lindsay today looks like he’s been on a week-long downers and booze bender.

He’s definitely lost the old frisch, fromm, fröhlich, frei look.

8 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 4:39:56pm

bless his heart, he’s doing his best to whitesplain his racist heritage and get his neo-con on, now that’s the kind of GOP word salad and detatchment from reality that I’ve come to expect.

9 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 4:42:05pm
10 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 4:42:51pm
11 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2015 4:43:03pm

re: #9 Kragar

12 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 4:44:16pm

re: #9 Kragar

For no real reason, this has been my favorite line from anything I’ve read today. Even the post title was great:

If there was a flag that symbolized my hatred of Ron Fournier and David Brooks, I would fly it. But, even then, I wouldn’t want it flown above my state capital and I’d understand if Amazon and Walmart didn’t want to sell it.

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2015 4:45:38pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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14 wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2015 4:46:28pm
15 sizzzzlerz  Jun 24, 2015 4:47:10pm

No, Senator. That’s good-ol’-boy, redneck, cracker, southern deep-fried hatred served up with a side o’ grits and bottle of Jim Beam. Furthermore, Senator, you and your buds on your side of the aisle own it, lock, stock, and barrel.

16 BeachDem  Jun 24, 2015 4:47:12pm

Lindsey was tired of Mark Sanford making the most idiotic comments and felt he had to step up his game.

17 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 4:50:48pm

re: #3 Tigger2

Graham is such a fool.

Being a major asswipe will do that to you.

18 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 4:51:00pm

re: #16 BeachDem

seems plausible….

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2015 4:55:12pm

“The National Park Service is asking its cooperating associations, concessions, and partners to voluntarily withdraw sales in their stores of Confederate flags and other items, such as stickers, that depict the Confederate flag as a stand-alone feature,” Park Service spokeswoman Kathy Kupper e-mailed us after we’d inquired early in the day.

20 Drive By Commenter  Jun 24, 2015 4:55:22pm

I wonder how long he worked on that sentence. And what drunk he ran it in front of; “Great Lindsey! Nails it. Go get ‘em!” That kind of hatred lives right down the wrong road at the wrong time forever, and you self serving aggrandizing mofos feed them. Daily. You just did it again. Didn’t you?

21 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 4:55:46pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maggie Price @maggiepriceless

Perspective: nazi flag banned in Germany, so neo nazis substitute the confederate flag. What does that tell you?

7:20 PM - 24 Jun 2015

Oops! That’s gonna hurt.

22 Chan Kobun  Jun 24, 2015 4:57:21pm

“Mideast hate”? No, that’s Mid-South hate.

23 CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2015 5:03:04pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also this, in case anyone needs to cite an additional source. Apparently it’s popular all over the damned place, for varying reasons. And, yes, it’s popular with the European far right, including German skinheads and neo-Nazis:

Why do Italian soccer fans and other foreigners fly the Confederate flag?

Outside the soccer stadium, European extremist political groups have been known to fly the Confederate flag, too. European skinheads and neo-Nazis have sometimes adopted the Confederate flag, especially in Germany, where the swastika and other symbols of Nazi Germany are officially banned by law. Many Europeans see the flag as a de facto sign of far-right political leanings: A Confederate flag that was spotted in a photograph of a French police station last year caused a minor scandal.

Bizarrely, American Civil War reenactions have become popular in Germany, with significant numbers of Germans preferring to fight on the Confederate side. “I think some of the Confederate reenactors in Germany are acting out Nazi fantasies of racial superiority,” Wolfgang Hochbruck, a professor of American Studies at the University of Freiburg, once told American journalist Tony Horwitz. “They are obsessed with your war because they cannot celebrate their own vanquished racists.”

24 BeachDem  Jun 24, 2015 5:03:13pm

re: #22 Chan Kobun

“Mideast hate”? No, that’s Mid-South hate.

He was merely expanding on his original idiotic comment from last week:

“To go into God’s space and do this, I don’t know,” he told ABC News. “You can’t explain it. … I go to the Middle East a lot. I’ve seen hate up close. I’ve seen communities where everybody has been killed because they’re a different religion, and you think that’s just over there. Sometimes it’s not just over there.”

huffingtonpost.com

Where’s that graphic with the shovel and the pile of dirt?

25 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 5:05:26pm

Earlier today someone had recommended a good one-volume all-encompassing book about the civil war but I didn’t note it because I was at work. Does someone remember it or should I start digging through old threads? I remember it being about 1,000 pages long.

26 Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2015 5:07:33pm

re: #25 stpaulbear

Earlier today someone had recommended a good one-volume book all-encompassing book about the civil war but I didn’t note it because I was at work. Does someone remember it or should I start digging through old threads? I remember it being about 1,000 pages long.

Was it Battle Cry of Freedom or Ordeal by Fire: The Civil War and Reconstruction?

27 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 5:08:50pm

re: #26 Timothy Watson

Not sure. That title doesn’t ring a bell (but then that’s why I’m asking).

A lot of people jumped in about what a great read it was. Gripping.

28 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 5:10:18pm

re: #25 stpaulbear

Earlier today someone had recommended a good one-volume all-encompassing book about the civil war but I didn’t note it because I was at work. Does someone remember it or should I start digging through old threads? I remember it being about 1,000 pages long.

Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson

29 unproven innocence  Jun 24, 2015 5:11:59pm

re: #25 stpaulbear

A Brief Overview of the American Civil War
A Defining Time in Our Nation’s History
By Dr. James McPherson

[Edit] Not a link to the book you are after, but I think it’s the right author, so that may help.

30 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 24, 2015 5:15:39pm

I must admit, that I’m a little surprised that the flag removal is happening so quickly. Sorry it took nine dead bodies to make it happen.

31 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:19:33pm

re: #30 Iwouldprefernotto

I must admit, that I’m a little surprised that the flag removal is happening so quickly. Sorry it took nine dead bodies to make it happen.

I sorta want to ask all those folks (incl. Amazon etc.): see, that was easy; wtf were you waiting for?

32 William Lewis  Jun 24, 2015 5:19:48pm

re: #30 Iwouldprefernotto

I must admit, that I’m a little surprised that the flag removal is happening so quickly. Sorry it took nine dead bodies to make it happen.

The GOP wants to deflect from any discussion about guns. Therefor that flag makes a perfect scapegoat instead.

33 Jenner7  Jun 24, 2015 5:20:17pm
34 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 5:21:04pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

re: #29 unproven innocence

Thanks!

35 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 5:21:24pm
36 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:22:31pm

On Chris Hayes just now, guest pointed out that Alabama has voted twice recently, in 2004 and 2012, to keep language in their State Constitution prohibiting racial integration in education.

The votes are totally symbolic, because Brown v. Board invalidated racial segregation in education nationwide. But the people of Alabama were given to opportunities to remove that archaic, bigoted language from their Constitution and chose instead to keep it. The vote margin to keep the segregation language actually increased in 2012, because bigots hate Obama.

I’m kind of stunned.

37 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:23:18pm

re: #33 Jenner7

It makes it much more understandable.

38 Jenner7  Jun 24, 2015 5:24:25pm

re: #37 Nyet

It does, but I’m not a fan of hecklers. Don’t care what side you’re on.

39 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:25:02pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Hmm, and it’s not because of some silly sense of textual conservatism either:

As a result, about 90 percent of the document’s length, as of 2012, comes from its 856 amendments.
[…]
The constitution is the most amended in the world.

40 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:25:26pm

re: #38 Jenner7

It does, but I’m not a fan of hecklers. Don’t care what side you’re on.

Also understandable.

41 Bubblehead II  Jun 24, 2015 5:25:34pm
42 unproven innocence  Jun 24, 2015 5:26:49pm

re: #34 stpaulbear

Thanks!

List of publications by James M. McPherson
Hope you find what you’re looking for.

43 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 5:27:30pm
44 Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2015 5:29:40pm

The cops stopped for burgers cuz little lord Roof’s tummy wuz grumbling. That’s fucked up.

45 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 5:30:15pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

On Chris Hayes just now, guest pointed out that Alabama has voted twice recently, in 2004 and 2012, to keep language in their State Constitution prohibiting racial integration in education.

The votes are totally symbolic, because Brown v. Board invalidated racial segregation in education nationwide. But the people of Alabama were given to opportunities to remove that archaic, bigoted language from their Constitution and chose instead to keep it. The vote margin to keep the segregation language actually increased in 2012, because bigots hate Obama.

I’m kind of stunned.

I heard that too. Wow. Still a long way to go. And guess who the governor was? Good ol’ “who me” Haley Barbour. Who has also had ties with the CofCC.

46 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:30:51pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

OK, now you’ll get a wave of gun nuts.

47 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 5:31:12pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson

Someone at Amazon doesn’t like it:

I thought I was reading Karl Marx, just a blatant diatribe against American capitalism. There are better reviews of the civil war.

“Most helpful critical review (two stars):

This is probably the best one volume civil war history there is. I’m giving it two stars only so that this review appears alongside some of the genuine two star reviews.

48 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 5:32:18pm

re: #44 Amory Blaine

The cops stopped for burgers cuz little lord Roof’s tummy wuz grumbling. That’s fucked up.

It really sticks out to me that the same week we find out that Dylann Roof got taken peacefully and even taken to Burger King, we find out that Freddie Gray’s death was indeed (contrary to the hopes of the pro-cop faction) ruled a homicide.

49 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 5:33:22pm

re: #45 ObserverArt

I heard that too. Wow. Still a long way to go. And guess who the governor was? Good ol’ “who me” Haley Barbour. Who has also had ties with the CofCC.

Oops. Alabama. My mistake. I thought I heard the guest say Mississippi.

50 Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2015 5:34:09pm

re: #44 Amory Blaine

The cops stopped for burgers cuz little lord Roof’s tummy wuz grumbling. That’s fucked up.

To be fair, that’s a standard technique when interrogating somebody.

51 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:34:47pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

If you needed a reason to understand why Decatur Deb does his political organizing and GOTV efforts in neighboring Florida, that’s it.

Jesus Christ Alabama, just miles and miles of what the fuck in my head right now.

52 Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2015 5:35:09pm

re: #50 Timothy Watson

Ok that makes sense.

53 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 5:36:00pm

re: #44 Amory Blaine

The cops stopped for burgers cuz little lord Roof’s tummy wuz grumbling. That’s fucked up.

Or maybe they were playing good cop/bad cop and wanted to get him talking.

54 unproven innocence  Jun 24, 2015 5:37:20pm

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

Or maybe they were playing good cop/bad cop and wanted to get him talking.

Hope they did the Miranda bit.

55 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 5:37:30pm

“…Johnnie Holley Jr., commander of the SCV Texas division, said that people “need to know the true history of this nation and the world,” suggesting that the legacy of the Confederacy in Texas isn’t racism—but, unfortunately for his cause, the historical record in Texas is clear. Over the objection of then-leader Sam Houston, when Texas issued its Confederate declaration of war, the declaration clearly said: “We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.”

56 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:38:39pm
Johnnie Holley Jr., commander of the SCV Texas division

Stop right there.

SCV, UDC = racism.

57 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 5:38:43pm

re: #37 Nyet

It makes it much more understandable.

no no no no no no no no no /////

Obama made me lol

58 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:38:50pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

On Chris Hayes just now, guest pointed out that Alabama has voted twice recently, in 2004 and 2012, to keep language in their State Constitution prohibiting racial integration in education.

The votes are totally symbolic, because Brown v. Board invalidated racial segregation in education nationwide. But the people of Alabama were given to opportunities to remove that archaic, bigoted language from their Constitution and chose instead to keep it. The vote margin to keep the segregation language actually increased in 2012, because bigots hate Obama.

I’m kind of stunned.


Nuance Alert: I voted to keep the segregationist language in the AL constitution. It was supported by our Dem groups and the NAACP. The proprosed amendment removing it was accidentally or deliberately worded to remove the state’s obligation to educate anyone’s children.

59 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:40:16pm

I mean, I knew Alabama was fucked up, and had low expectations going into that bit, but my.mind.is.BLOWN!

How does that not become a gigantic cause for a boycott. The populace voted twice to keep that shit in. If there’s ever a legit impetus for imposing collective economic punishment, that’s it. I mean, I’m sorry for all the good people who have to live there, but one way or another the country and would has to drag that State into the 21st Century.

60 Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2015 5:40:17pm

I’ve been out of the loop past couple of days. We had to bury another family member yesterday and here at Amory’s Bed And Breakfast well, we put up all the out of towners.

61 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:40:21pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb


Nuance Alert: I voted to keep the segregationist language in the AL constitution. It was supported by our Dem groups and the NAACP. The proprosed amendment removing it was accidentally or deliberately worded to remove the state’s obligation to educate anyone’s children.

US laws make my head spin.

(Then I look at Russia and it spins at double speed in the other direction. Get me an exorcist.)

62 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 5:41:21pm

re: #60 Amory Blaine

Thoughts. :(

63 Azalea  Jun 24, 2015 5:41:53pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb


Nuance Alert: I voted to keep the segregationist language in the AL constitution. It was supported by our Dem groups and the NAACP. The proprosed amendment removing it was accidentally or deliberately worded to remove the state’s obligation to educate anyone’s children.

That just makes it even MORE messed up. I mean, holding public education hostage?

64 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:42:02pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb


Nuance Alert: I voted to keep the segregationist language in the AL constitution. It was supported by our Dem groups and the NAACP. The proprosed amendment removing it was accidentally or deliberately worded to remove the state’s obligation to educate anyone’s children.

Oh that’s just fantastic. I feel bad for you man. Somebody write a proper resolution and get it on the 2016 ballot.

65 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:43:02pm

re: #63 Azalea

That just makes it even MORE messed up. I mean, holding public education hostage?

Honeychile, we’re all hostages down here.

66 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 5:43:48pm

re: #55 jaunte

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The more they try to deny the reality of the war, the more painful the smacks upside the head become.

67 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 5:43:49pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I don’t want to think about what kind of atrocity it would take for that to happen. The Confederate flag is a much easier target than US gun-mania.

68 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 5:45:12pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

I don’t know. The heads may be wood all the way through.

69 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:45:42pm

So Alabama is a state which can’t throw out the segregationist language from its constitution without also throwing out education. Niiiice.

70 Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2015 5:45:44pm

re: #68 jaunte

That’s a sign of quality.

71 CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2015 5:46:39pm

re: #67 EPR-radar

I don’t want to think about what kind of atrocity it would take for that to happen. The Confederate flag is a much easier target than US gun-mania.

I had the same thought—if murdering 20 elementary school children doesn’t do it then…? *shudder*

72 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:47:06pm

re: #69 Nyet

So Alabama is a state which can’t throw out the segregationist language from its constitution without also throwing out education. Niiiice.

We are assured, assured I say, that removing the education requirement was an oversight.

73 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 5:47:06pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

For instance, TakeThatDarwin has recently been retweeting this guy:

74 CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2015 5:47:15pm

re: #60 Amory Blaine

Condolences.

75 Azalea  Jun 24, 2015 5:48:18pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Ugh. I feel awful for you. :< At least federal law overrides the measure.

I know it’s only Wednesday, but I kinda want a stiff drink now.

76 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:49:59pm

re: #75 Azalea

Ugh. I feel awful for you. :< At least federal law overrides the measure.

I know it’s only Wednesday, but I kinda want a stiff drink now.

That’s no problem, it’s not Sunday.

77 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 5:50:21pm

You almost have to feel sorry for the GOP. They didn’t realize just what a fetid can of worms this one shooting was gonna open up. They were likely prepared for some more mealy-mouthed remarks about the need for less gun control or “states rights,” but instead got totally bushwhacked by their base going off like a rabid dog over the idea of actually confronting their own racism.

78 Amory Blaine  Jun 24, 2015 5:50:33pm

re: #74 CuriousLurker

Thanks. I’m on my phone now but I got a story for you guys about George (our cat) in the overnight thread that is pretty peculiar.

79 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:50:35pm
80 The War TARDIS  Jun 24, 2015 5:51:00pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

I am dead curious what Southerners are proud of in their heritage.

81 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 5:51:10pm

It seems strange that Lindsey Graham is a leading smegma-head on this topic in the GOP. Does his sense of obligation as senior Sen-SC to the most wretched excesses in South Carolina history really run that deep?

82 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 5:52:10pm

re: #80 The War TARDIS

I am dead curious what Southerners are proud of in their heritage.

BBQ. That shit is legit.

83 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 5:53:49pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

BBQ. That shit is legit.

There’s all kinds of good stuff to celebrate about the US South, as long as none of it is infected with Confederate or lost cause bullshit.

84 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 5:53:59pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
I do not think this person understands how flags work

85 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:54:38pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

You might be astounded at what is in the AL constitution. It is the largest governing document operating in the world today, 340,146 words.

en.wikipedia.org

86 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 5:55:50pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson

I just ordered a used copy for $11. Looking forward to reading.

87 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 5:56:09pm

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know what any of that means. For instance, what’s wrong with Mexico or the UN having a flag?

88 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 5:56:12pm

Um, NO you ignorant fuckstick

89 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:57:13pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Um, NO you ignorant fuckstick

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He’s rockn’ that Templar Cross thing again.

90 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 5:57:48pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

You might be astounded at what is in the AL constitution. It is the largest governing document operating in the world today, 340,146 words.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m suitably astounded. What a mess. E.g., the salary of the Green Country probate judge is a constitutional matter in AL?

91 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 5:58:54pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

gets

/sorry

92 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 24, 2015 5:58:58pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

You might be astounded at what is in the AL constitution. It is the largest governing document operating in the world today, 340,146 words.

en.wikipedia.org

Our California constitution comes in third behind second place India. The fact that I have found Alabama, India, and California to each be confusing in its own way must mean something.

93 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 5:59:04pm

re: #90 EPR-radar

I’m suitably astounded. What a mess. E.g., the salary of the Green Country probate judge is a constitutional matter in AL?

Green county, wherever the hell that is, cannot build a sewage treatment plant without my consent.

94 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 5:59:11pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Um, NO you ignorant fuckstick

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For one thing, the Confederacy barred black folks, freemen or slaves, from serving in the Army until March 1865. And efforts to change that had run into the reality that allowing colored soldiers to fight would totally undermine the stated reason for the war, which was the superiority of the white race over all others.

95 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 5:59:16pm

Republicans Forget That They’re Supposed to Blame Democrats for Segregation and Slavery

“…we have a disagreement over which party ought to bear the legacy of slavery and segregation. Republicans insist it ought to be Democrats, out of partisan continuity, and Democrats insist it ought to be Republicans, out of ideological and demographic continuity.

Given their investment in this argument, you would think Republicans would be eager to divest themselves from the symbols of slavery and segregation. But far from it. Democrats are the most eager to remove the confederate flag, a symbol of slavery and treason that was revived in the 20th century as a symbol of resistance to civil-rights legislation.”

96 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 24, 2015 6:01:07pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Um, NO you ignorant fuckstick

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But, this is the REAL truth, for REAL Americans. For a limited time they’ll double your order of REAL Truth if you just pay shipping and handling.

97 The War TARDIS  Jun 24, 2015 6:01:49pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

Seen me being raised by Northerners, I see states that are usually the worst to live in by any metric, and are still not accepting of minorities. I will give you BBQ, but most of the south, save the somewhat redeemed areas in a handful of major cities, and to some extent Virginia and Florida, strike me as being as backwards as the Tribal regions of Pakistan.

Again, I will give you the BBQ, but I am still of the opinion that the best way to fix the US is to have immigrants pour into the south.

My opinion of the South is not too far removed from the SNL skit about Clinton in the early 90s.

98 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 6:01:54pm

re: #91 Nyet

gets

/sorry

Thanks. I think we’ve established that inappropriate apostrophe use is my thing.

99 allegro  Jun 24, 2015 6:02:23pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

For one thing, the Confederacy barred black folks, freemen or slaves, from serving in the Army until March 1865. And efforts to change that had run into the reality that allowed colored soldiers to fight would totally undermine the stated reason for the war, which was the superiority of the white race over all others.

I suspect the thought of slaves and former slaves having guns also gave them moments of pause.

100 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:03:46pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

FACT - A little known fact, the CSA had noticed Russia had freed it’s slaves/servants in 1859,

It is indeed pretty little known, given that it happened in 1861.

101 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:05:23pm

re: #31 Nyet

I sorta want to ask all those folks (incl. Amazon etc.): see, that was easy; wtf were you waiting for?

A change in the sales/public perception equation. Suddenly it’s more profitable to proudly not have it rather than loudly have it.

102 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 6:06:00pm

re: #100 Nyet

It is indeed pretty little known, given that it happened in 1861.

Oddly enough, the serfs in Georgia had to wait a few years more.

103 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:06:59pm
Fact- Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

And then he quotes from a site that for all practical purposes debunks him:

Here is an excerpt from history.com in regards to how black men were allowed to fight in the war.

On this day, March 16th, 1865, with the main Rebel armies facing long odds against must larger Union armies,the Confederacy, in a desperate measure,reluctantly approves the use of black troops.

And in a few weeks the war ended.

Yeah, case proven. Not.

104 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 6:07:01pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

A change in the sales/public perception equation. Suddenly it’s more profitable to proudly not have it rather than loudly have it.

It really has been remarkable. Like a political version of Ice-9.

105 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:07:35pm

re: #102 jaunte

Oddly enough, the serfs in Georgia had to wait a few years more.

As wells as slaves in Georgia.

106 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 6:08:51pm

re: #103 Nyet

This derp really is at the young earth creationist level. An absolute zero of willful stupidity defined by total rejection of reality.

107 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 6:09:35pm

Gauntlet thrown.

108 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 6:09:58pm
109 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 6:10:02pm

@JenniferWOLOTV
Video of Sen. Pinckneys body arriving at the Statehouse

110 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:10:10pm

re: #104 EPR-radar

It really has been remarkable. Like a political version of Ice-9.

Some few years in the future-
“”Where were you when the confederate flag finally fell?”’
“I was blogging at LGF…”

111 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 6:10:38pm
112 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:11:02pm

re: #110 Great White Snark

Some few years in the future-
“”Where were you when the confederate flag finally fell?”’

I was blogging at LGF…

… while riding a T-Rex.

113 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:12:11pm

I’m starting a museum for flags like the Confederate flag. It’s called the failed state flag display. It’s strictly for flags of nations that were a bad idea to begin with and did not last. Confederacy, Iraq, Republic Of Texas….

114 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 6:12:11pm

re: #80 The War TARDIS

I am dead curious what Southerners are proud of in their heritage.

Noble failure in response to oppressive Big Gubmint.

TMTC,TMTSTS

115 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:12:57pm

re: #113 Great White Snark

Where should I send the Soviet flag?/

116 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 6:13:28pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

You might be astounded at what is in the AL constitution. It is the largest governing document operating in the world today, 340,146 words.

en.wikipedia.org

So recent amendments mention Nick Saban?

117 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:14:05pm

re: #113 Great White Snark

I’m starting a museum for flags like the Confederate flag. It’s called the failed state flag display. It’s strictly for flags of nations that were a bad idea to begin with and did not last. Confederacy, Iraq, Republic Of Texas….

118 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:14:35pm
119 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:14:56pm

re: #115 Nyet

Where should I send the Soviet flag?/

Hah! well said. I promise to hang it right above the Nazi flag.

120 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 6:15:51pm

This doesn’t make sense.

121 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 6:16:21pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

hey…purge on, purge boy.

Gibson sounds a little bound up.

122 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:16:38pm

Probably wasn’t a fan of denazification either.

123 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 6:17:35pm
124 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:17:45pm
125 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:17:57pm

re: #116 #FergusonFireside

So recent amendments mention Nick Saban?

It’s quite possible that an amendment is in there exempting the ‘Bama coach salary. Just his state compensation makes him the highest paid official in the state.

126 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 6:19:38pm
127 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 6:21:00pm

re: #126 Kragar

A Jew-hater defending white privilege? Shocking.

128 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:21:06pm
129 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:21:48pm

re: #123 jaunte

130 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:22:10pm

“Purge Boy” sounds like a minimum-wage job at a Roman banquet hall.

131 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 6:22:14pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

It’s quite possible that an amendment is in there exempting the ‘Bama coach salary. Just his state compensation makes him the highest paid official in the state.

Well, consider that if it wasn’t for the Crimson Tide, folks in the US wouldn’t consider Alabama a functioning member of the US.

“We may be ignorant country fucks, but we’ll kick your ass in the fall!”

That man is worth very penny. He’s the best tourism tool they’ve got.

132 allegro  Jun 24, 2015 6:22:40pm

re: #123 jaunte

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I’ve read that like 4 times trying to find a reaction other than horror. I’m failing. WTF

133 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:03pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Well, consider that if it wasn’t for the Crimson Tide, folks in the US wouldn’t consider Alabama a functioning member of the US.

“We may be ignorant country fucks, but we’ll kick your ass in the fall!”

That man is worth very penny. He’s the best tourism tool they’ve got.

War Iggl.

134 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:10pm
135 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:22pm

I swear, watching the twitter interactions here is like watching an Abbott and Costello performance and these guys think that they’re Abbott.

136 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:30pm

I believe I read somewhere that the workers of the biggest flag maker company are predom Afr American!

137 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:47pm

re: #132 allegro

Top Conservative Cat
@TeaPartyCat
I was never a Reagan Democrat— I’ve always been a Colbert Conservative.

138 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 6:23:50pm

re: #111 psddluva4evah

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He knows his audience.

I wish it was unbelievable.

139 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 6:24:18pm

re: #132 allegro

I’ve read that like 4 times trying to find a reaction other than horror. I’m failing. WTF

It’s meant to be sardonic. Satire account.

140 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 6:24:51pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

War Iggl.

By the way, what are they? Plainsmen? Tigers? War Iggles?

So confused…

141 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:25:07pm

re: #136 psddluva4evah

Not Chinese?

142 allegro  Jun 24, 2015 6:25:38pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

It’s means to be sardonic. Satire account.

Thanks. I feel better now.

143 Lidane  Jun 24, 2015 6:25:40pm

The only proper response to that bit of blistering stupidity from Lindsey:

…

144 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:26:58pm
145 stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2015 6:27:19pm

re: #136 psddluva4evah

Their DISrespecting the flag! Their are flags laying everywhere!!

146 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 6:28:12pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

well has one asked that? Has anyone asked for that? These guys are like Imelda Marcos with the number of prospective shoes that have yet to drop…

147 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 6:28:20pm

re: #109 psddluva4evah

@JenniferWOLOTV
Video of Sen. Pinckneys body arriving at the Statehouse

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I did a double take seeing those SC Highway Patrolmen in their gray uniforms.

148 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:06pm
149 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:12pm

Where did that “fag?” come from? What a weird interaction.

150 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:13pm

re: #140 austin_blue

By the way, what are they? Plainsmen? Tigers? War Iggles?

So confused…

Plainsmen—students
Tigers—team, symbol
Eagle (Aubie)—mascot

(Daughter1 was photographed holding the eagle before her MS ceremony.)

151 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:15pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

I suspect he meant “flag”…

152 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:18pm

re: #111 psddluva4evah

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What’s funny about that is that Walmart is famous for refusing to sell albums with explicit lyrics or cover art. They only sell sanitized music.

153 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 6:29:21pm

re: #143 Lidane

The only proper response to that bit of blistering stupidity from Lindsey:

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Video

Good gods, but that’s brilliant.

Could everyone please give Lidane an upding for finding that?

Homegirl did good!

154 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 6:30:01pm

Freudian slip, as it were :)

155 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:32:23pm

Liberal ban? I still got my guns. Straight marriage. Monogamy. Nothing would stop me from flying any flag I want on my own lawn. Have the liberals banned the Confederate flag more or less than haters have the rainbow flag? Hmmm. Who is really the thought police?

156 CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2015 6:34:06pm

I think y’all have to create a new drinking game for every time a member of the GOP brings up the Mideast/Muslims to deflect criticism about a totally unrelated subject. I wonder how often it’ll get dragged out during the primary debates… Anyway, have a good night, everyone, I’m outta here.

157 EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2015 6:35:09pm

re: #153 austin_blue

Good gods, but that’s brilliant.

Could everyone please give Lidane an upding for finding that?

Homegirl did good!

That’s always worth an upding, even though it is pretty well known around these parts.

Occasions for its use are rather frequent, given the debased state of the Republican party in the US.

158 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2015 6:35:57pm

Second shill for my confederate flag page:

Mississippi: a state still divided

MS is also home to the Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and his former home of Beauvoir. Things could get very interesting.

159 unproven innocence  Jun 24, 2015 6:36:19pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

I think y’all have to create a new drinking game for every time a member of the GOP brings up the Mideast/Muslims to deflect criticism about a totally unrelated subject. I wonder how often it’ll get dragged out during the primary debates… Anyway, have a good night, everyone, I’m outta here.

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What?! Are you trying to kill us all? //

160 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 6:36:19pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

“Purge Boy” sounds like a minimum-wage job at a Roman banquet hall.

…

161 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:37:54pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

I think y’all have to create a new drinking game for every time a member of the GOP brings up the Mideast/Muslims to deflect criticism about a totally unrelated subject. I wonder how often it’ll get dragged out during the primary debates… Anyway, have a good night, everyone, I’m outta here.

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Hey I can’t drink that much! I’d lose.

162 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:39:23pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

It’s quite possible that an amendment is in there exempting the ‘Bama coach salary. Just his state compensation makes him the highest paid official in the state.

I think Urban Meyer has that same distinction in Ohio.

163 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 6:40:47pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

Second shill for my confederate flag page:

Mississippi: a state still divided

MS is also home to the Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and his former home of Beauvoir. Things could get very interesting.

Excellent page. Tweeted.

164 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 6:41:44pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

I think Urban Meyer has that same distinction in Ohio.

Until he leaves you high and dry. Signed, Florida.

165 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:42:21pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

“Purge Boy” sounds like a minimum-wage job at a Roman banquet hall.

Satyricon!

(Let’s see how many LGF folks know that one)

166 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:44:32pm

re: #164 #FergusonFireside

Until he leaves you high and dry. Signed, Florida.

There is always that chance.

But since he is an Ohio boy and was on the OSU staff as one of his coaching jobs, I think he’ll end his career at OSU.

He could always run for Governor after Kasich gets elected President!

////

167 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:45:22pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

Fellini? LOL.

168 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:46:43pm

re: #135 piratedan

I swear, watching the twitter interactions here is like watching an Abbott and Costello performance and these guys think that they’re Abbott.

Who’s on first?

What?

169 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 6:47:59pm

Wow!

I never heard the story that Maddow is telling about the first African American male cheerleader at Ole Miss, who refused to wave the Rebel Flag, instead the white cheerleaders would wave it.

Maddow is now interviewing him!

John Hawkins is his name!

Find the video guys!

170 nearly-headless smith25  Jun 24, 2015 6:48:48pm

Crew, I tell ya. It has been hard for me to not be around the discussion much over the past week or so. But going on Vacation Sunday, and holding on to almost zero responsibility. I’ll catch back up with you all early next week.

171 Mattand  Jun 24, 2015 6:49:18pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

Satyricon!

(Let’s see how many LGF folks know that one)

Basically a filmed orgy starring a pre-weight loss Richard Simmons?

172 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 6:49:25pm

re: #113 Great White Snark

I’m starting a museum for flags like the Confederate flag. It’s called the failed state flag display. It’s strictly for flags of nations that were a bad idea to begin with and did not last. Confederacy, Iraq, Republic Of Texas….

All that in the same building with the Ford Pinto, New Coke and of course the main item Windows 8.

173 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 6:50:40pm

#tcot is back to blaming TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!! for inventing the Confederate flag while at the same time claiming ITS ARE HAIRYTAGE1!!!11

174 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 6:51:47pm

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

#tcot is back to blaming TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!! for inventing the Confederate flag while at the same time claiming ITS ARE HAIRYTAGE1!!!11

“Democrats are responsible for the flag that we absolutely refuse to take down!!!!”

175 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 6:51:49pm

Jesus Hopscotching Christ

176 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 6:51:51pm
177 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 6:52:49pm
178 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:53:15pm

re: #167 Great White Snark

Fellini? LOL.

Have you seen it?

It’s on the scale of a Cecil B. DeMille production. With a way-over the top subject.

Great art school student flick on the Ohio State campus theaters Midnight Movies.

Drugs and art movies. What’s not to like?

179 Lancelot Link  Jun 24, 2015 6:54:24pm

re: #178 ObserverArt

The book’s pretty entertaining, as well.

180 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 6:56:19pm

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

#tcot is back to blaming TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!! for inventing the Confederate flag while at the same time claiming ITS ARE HAIRYTAGE1!!!11

It’s Heritage, not hate, and our heritage allows us to hate anything that is not white.

So there, you damn Librul Bastards.

(I had a fantasy after seeing the casket of Senator Pinckney arriving at the SC Statehouse of the lid opening and his arm extending with his rude finger prominently displayed. It would be a great photoshop or political cartoon.)

181 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 6:57:25pm

So the flag of the treasonous bastards that the GOP wants credit for defeating, which went up flagpoles all over the South during the Civil Rights era as a symbol of the very forces that the GOP likes to say they defeated with the CRA and VRA, must remain up now because it is a symbol of “heritage.”

You just have to step back and marvel at the insane troll logic at work here.

182 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:57:35pm

re: #180 austin_blue

It’s Heritage, not hate, and our heritage allows us to hate anything that is not white.

So there, you damn Librul Bastards.

(I had a fantasy after seeing the casket of Senator Pinckney arriving at the SC Statehouse of the lid opening and his arm extending with his rude finger prominently displayed. It would be a great photoshop or political cartoon.)

I like the way you think.

183 Lidane  Jun 24, 2015 6:58:48pm
184 ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2015 6:59:17pm

Later Lizards. Screw the X-rag!

Edit…after posting, I saw the image of crybaby in Lidane’s comment above, What does he feel about an Irish IRA flag?

185 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 6:59:50pm

re: #183 Lidane

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What’s defacing the flag on his pin?

186 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 7:00:11pm

re: #183 Lidane

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Says the high school graduate. What a maroon.

187 Zamb  Jun 24, 2015 7:01:14pm

re: #183 Lidane

Dr Dre is today’s Jefferson Davis
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188 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 7:02:15pm

The needle has been buried for a long time now.

189 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 7:03:10pm

re: #178 ObserverArt

Saw a scene or two in a film class long ago, happened to recall the title.

190 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 7:03:24pm

re: #183 Lidane

well lets see…. one probably generates tens of thousands of dollars in revenue and is a symbol of hate

and the other is a multi-millon dollar niche of an industry that provides hope and romance and inspiration around the world….

191 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 7:03:47pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

The needle has been buried for a long time now.

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About time the feedback started…

192 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 7:04:51pm

re: #183 Lidane

Hannity would be OK with a Nazi flag at Walmart?

193 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 7:05:48pm

re: #183 Lidane

Okay fine sell the confederate flag but it comes with a prominent “contains racism” parental warning label.

194 Zamb  Jun 24, 2015 7:06:04pm

re: #192 Nyet

Hannity would be OK with a Nazi flag at Walmart?

Probably, I doubt he likes to pay for shipping.

195 Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2015 7:07:11pm

The same people that are freaking out over the removal of the Confederate Flag were equally freaked out when the POTUS gave a back-to-school speech to school children.

196 Great White Snark  Jun 24, 2015 7:07:13pm

re: #192 Nyet

Who would have thought straight lines stars and a bright color would be such an accurate Rorschach test for racism?

197 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 7:07:15pm
198 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 7:09:44pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

199 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:10:21pm

“…There are more than a dozen monuments, markers and statues on the Capitol grounds that overtly reference the Confederacy in one way or another, according to the [Texas] State Preservation Board.”

200 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:11:46pm

Baked-in revisionism.

Children of the Confederacy Creed

Location: First Floor Corridor

Because we desire to perpetuate, in love and honor, the heroic deeds of those who enlisted in the Confederate Army, and upheld its flag through four years of war, we, the children of the South, have united in an organization called “Children of the Confederacy” in which our strength, enthusiasm, and love of justice can exert its influence. We, therefore, pledge ourselves to preserve pure ideals; to honor our veterans; to study and teach the truths of history (one of the most important of which is, that the war between the states was not a rebellion, nor was its underlying cause to sustain slavery), and to always act in a manner that will reflect honor upon our noble and patriotic ancestors.
-Erected by Texas Division, Children of the Confederacy, August 7, 1959

201 Nyet  Jun 24, 2015 7:13:28pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

The People’s Cube guy was drawing Communist propaganda in Soviet Ukraine. Now he’s drawing wingnut propaganda in the US. Not much difference.

202 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 7:15:26pm

re: #201 Nyet

The People’s Cube guy was drawing Communist propaganda in Soviet Ukraine. Now he’s drawing wingnut propaganda in the US. Not much difference.

He has some of the most fucktarded memes on Twitter. Better graphics than most #tcot memes but still stupid as fuck.

203 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 7:15:33pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

What’s defacing the flag on his pin?

Probably some FOP badge.

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2015 7:15:54pm

niterz, lizardz!

205 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:16:26pm
In the Texas Capitol

Here’s the plaque.

206 bratwurst  Jun 24, 2015 7:18:15pm

Drudge tweeting out WND nonsense:

207 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 7:18:22pm

re: #205 jaunte

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Here’s the plaque.

They’ve been lying to themselves forever.

208 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:19:02pm

And they’re still at it:

childrenoftheconfederacy.org
txudc.org

209 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 7:19:57pm

re: #200 jaunte

Baked-in revisionism.

In other words, the same old revisionist “The North started the war!!!” stupidity. Or its cousin, “The war was over interpretations of the Constitution!”

210 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2015 7:20:25pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

In other words, the same old revisionist “The North started the war!!!” stupidity. Or its cousin, “The war was over interpretations of the Constitution!”

HURR HURR TARIFFS!!!!!!!

211 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 7:20:38pm

re: #203 #FergusonFireside

Probably some FOP badge.

Looks like this:

piedtype.com

212 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:20:56pm
“…Those eligible for active membership are boys and girls from birth to the Annual General CofC Convention after their 18th birthday who are blood descendants, lineal or collateral, of men and women who served honorably in the Confederate Army, Navy, or Civil Service, or gave material aid to the Cause or those who are lineal or collateral descendants of members of the United Daughters of the Confederacy whose papers are acceptable by the present requirements for membership. Adopted children are not eligible for membership by virtue of the adoptive parents’ bloodline, but solely by virtue of the natural or biological parents. ”
txudc.org

LOL.

213 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:21:40pm

“Are you a bigot by blood? Cause we don’t accept adopted bigots.”

214 WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2015 7:22:44pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

Late to the game…hope you’re still here. LOVED your Grandpa Munster Cruz. Cracked me up!

215 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 7:23:25pm

re: #213 jaunte

“Are you a bigot by blood? Cause we don’t accept adopted bigots.”

“You don’t know where that’s been.”

216 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jun 24, 2015 7:26:09pm

re: #183 Lidane

wut?

217 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 7:26:17pm

re: #212 jaunte

LOL.

Sadly, Senator Cruz does not qualify.

218 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:27:10pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

…or gave material aid to the Cause…

They might discover a loophole.

219 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 7:27:52pm

re: #218 jaunte

They might discover a loophole.

Daddy’s service in the Sierra Maestre doesn’t count.

220 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jun 24, 2015 7:30:04pm

Wasn’t there a day where Hannity was chased by Libertarians? Back before Obama was elected? Or was that just a dream.

221 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 24, 2015 7:31:56pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Daddy’s service in the Sierra Maestre doesn’t count.

So, if your great-great-(repeat as needed)-grandmother was a notorious camp follower, you’re in?

RBS

222 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jun 24, 2015 7:35:19pm

Oh yeah, Ron Paul supporters.

…

223 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 24, 2015 7:36:33pm

re: #207 #FergusonFireside

They’ve been lying to themselves forever.

Same sort of stuff all over. There’s a small memorial park on Winstead Hill near Franklin, TN which was where Gen Hood’s HQ was for the attack on the Union forces there in late 1864.

I saw this sign and then took a closer look at the park’s main sign. Yep, the SCV helped put it together.

224 Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2015 7:36:46pm

re: #221 RealityBasedSteve

So, if your great-great-(repeat as needed)-grandmother was a notorious camp follower, you’re in?

RBS

That butternut isn’t going to wash itself.

225 BeachDem  Jun 24, 2015 7:38:43pm

re: #97 The War TARDIS

Seen me being raised by Northerners, I see states that are usually the worst to live in by any metric, and are still not accepting of minorities. I will give you BBQ, but most of the south, save the somewhat redeemed areas in a handful of major cities, and to some extent Virginia and Florida, strike me as being as backwards as the Tribal regions of Pakistan.

Again, I will give you the BBQ, but I am still of the opinion that the best way to fix the US is to have immigrants pour into the south.

My opinion of the South is not too far removed from the SNL skit about Clinton in the early 90s.

There you go again with you extremely broad brush. Dog knows, living in South Carolina, I’m as quick to criticize the idiots as anyone, but no, it is not all “as backwards as the tribal regions of Pakistan.” Jeez. (And, correct me if I’m wrong, but you live in Oklahoma, correct? Jim Inhofe’s Oklahoma?)

There are many of us—granted not enough right now—working hard every day to do good things and make a difference, rather than just running our mouths about how awful it is, and your wholesale suggestions are pretty insulting.

226 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 7:46:16pm

One method of getting a wingnut defending the “heritage” behind the Confederate flag to seize up and start billowing smoke out of his ears: Ask him if he thinks a person who flies the Soviet flag is simply taking “pride” in his “heritage” as a Russian.

227 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:48:29pm

Fox “News”, continuing to make their audience more ignorant.

228 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 7:49:31pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

One method of getting a wingnut defending the “heritage” behind the Confederate flag to seize up and start billowing smoke out of his ears: Ask him if he thinks a person who flies the Soviet flag is simply taking “pride” in his “heritage” as a Russian.

Or a swastika if they are of German heritage.

Make no mistake, the Stars and Bars was a de facto Confederate swastika when it was first flown in South Carolina.

229 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 24, 2015 7:50:46pm

re: #86 stpaulbear

I just ordered a used copy for $11. Looking forward to reading.

It’s fun to see how many of us went book shopping this week. I just rode to the local B&N and unfortunately they didn’t have a copy. I’m bummed because I was looking forward to settling down with it tonight. (I don’t care for digital - I don’t have a tablet or reader & the phone is too small).

230 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 7:50:50pm

re: #227 jaunte

Fox “News”, continuing to make their audience more ignorant.

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It also whitewashes the reality that the division in votes is better represented by showing North and South. Northern Congressman voted almost unanimously for the VRA, while their Southern counterparts equally against it.

231 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:51:55pm
232 Belafon  Jun 24, 2015 7:52:02pm

re: #227 jaunte

And this has zero to do with the fact that it’s Republicans in South Carolina that are preventing the flag from being removed.

233 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 7:53:09pm

re: #230 Targetpractice

remember, these are the same guys who extracted the president’s use of a racial slur completely without context, no reason to expect them to play fair, ever, unless it actually supports their position.

234 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 24, 2015 7:53:32pm

re: #25 stpaulbear

Battle Cry of Freedom, James McPherson

235 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 7:55:07pm

Under the Dome is coming back. ya.

236 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:55:56pm

re: #235 #FergusonFireside

“Deeper Under The Dome”

237 Belafon  Jun 24, 2015 7:56:42pm

re: #236 jaunte

“Deeper Under The Dome”

Are you still doing the porn themed titles?

238 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 7:57:47pm

re: #237 Belafon

“Dome Alone”

239 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 8:00:15pm

I AM PURGE BOY

FEAR ME

240 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 8:00:47pm

FEAR THE PURGE

241 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 8:02:00pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

ahh geez,

Now Charles is going to exile Gibson to a FEMA camp and make him listen to RAP music

242 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 8:02:09pm

The Purge? God, that movie was awful.

243 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 8:03:13pm

ICYMI: Rachel Maddow interview John Hawkins, 1st AA cheerleader at Ole Miss

244 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:04:25pm

re: #223 Feline Fearless Leader

Same sort of stuff all over. There’s a small memorial park on Winstead Hill near Franklin, TN which was where Gen Hood’s HQ was for the attack on the Union forces there in late 1864.

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I saw this sign and then took a closer look at the park’s main sign. Yep, the SCV helped put it together.

Even so, the Army of Tennessee showed an incredible devotion to duty in attacking Schofield’s entrenched men at Franklin. From the brigade level on down, they almost surely almost certainly knew (to use Lord Tennyson’s famous words) “that someone had blundered”. But yet they went forward anyways, out of loyalty to their cause and comrades, and the sense of honor prevalent in that age.

Yet, their cause was rotten and their fidelity was given to a man who in becoming an army commander had reached what today would be called his “level of incompetence”. John Bell Hood was a fine division commander, when he’d had James Longstreet to restrain him. And he’d been a decent corps commander, if briefly, because Joe Johnston had the operation acumen Hood lacked and Hood did obey his superiors. But as an army commander, Hood was an utter failure, as he no longer had anyone directly above him to check his aggressive tendancies and he never appreciated the way the percussion cap, the ‘minnie ball’ and rifled artillery had given the defense the advantage.

245 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 24, 2015 8:05:36pm

re: #237 Belafon

Are you still doing the porn themed titles?

Debbie Does Domers

Behind the Green Dome

246 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:08:40pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

Franklin was not the end for the Army of Tennessee. The end came less than three weeks later in front of Nashville, when the 60,000-strong Army of the Cumberland, under the loyalist Virginia MG George Thomas, smashed the now less 30,00 men under Hood. At Nashville, the Army of Tennessee’s heart finally cracked, as they knew Hood could not bring them victory against the impossible odds they faced. Instead of holding to the last, with dismounted cavalry threatening their flank the Graybacks broke and ran.

Partly reformed, they trudged southeast to Augusta, Georgia. As they marched, they sang a parody of “The Yellow Rose of Texas”, mocking their now former commander:

“So now I’m marching southwards,
My heart is full of woe!
I’m going back to Georgia,
to see my uncle Joe.”

“You may talk about your Beauregard,
and sing of General Lee,
But the Gallant Hood of Texas played Hell in Tennessee!”

247 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:10:01pm

re: #243 psddluva4evah

selected video not available.

I’ll keep trying.

248 RadicalModerate  Jun 24, 2015 8:10:58pm

These totally non-racist memorials to the “lost cause” just seem to be everywhere.

Totally non-racist.

The “official” state monument is still on display.

The official state monument

And you’re reading those correctly - the three dead white men got a memorial. The one hundred fifty massacred - African-Americans got nothing.

249 Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2015 8:11:38pm
250 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 8:12:44pm

re: #247 #FergusonFireside

dang…it works alright on my end. here’s a direct link:

msnbc.com

ETA: Dang, it’s not up…let me check for better link

251 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 8:13:43pm

Conservative desperation, featuring Gateway Pundit.

252 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:14:23pm

re: #250 psddluva4evah

dang…it works alright on my end. here’s a direct link:

msnbc.com

ETA: Dang, it’s not up…let me check for better link

When I heard the Ole Miss was taking it down, I was DAMN.

253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 24, 2015 8:14:34pm

Others here have said it already, but I am amazed that the sudden rejection of the Confederate flag by so many unlikely agents of change. I mean, Wal-Mart? The governor of South Carolina? And most of its state assembly?

I lived in Kentucky for almost 30 years, and despite it being a border state, there is still a large segment of the population that considers itself “southern.” Confederate flags everywhere (especially in the South End, the old working class white part of town that’s now home to African and Asian immigrants, too). There is even a confederate monument erected by the city near the U of Louisville. en.wikipedia.org

So I wonder how this rejection of the Confederate flag in the former CSA states is going to affect things in Kentucky. I got some in-laws who will probably fight it tooth and nail.

254 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 24, 2015 8:14:50pm

My intertubez is uber-slow tonight, and I don’t have the motivation or enthusiasm to deal with Charter this evening. I’m taking 2 sudafeds and calling it a night.

255 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 8:17:05pm

re: #248 RadicalModerate

“In the wake of the contested 1872 election for governor of Louisiana and local offices, a group of white Democrats, armed with rifles and a small cannon, overpowered Republican freedmen and state militia (also black) trying to control the Grant Parish courthouse in Colfax;[1][2] white Republican officeholders were not attacked. Most of the freedmen were killed after they surrendered; nearly 50 were killed later that night after being held as prisoners for several hours.”
en.wikipedia.org

256 Romantic Heretic  Jun 24, 2015 8:17:09pm

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

Jesus Hopscotching Christ

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Off for an aspirin. Smacked my head way too hard when I saw that.

257 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2015 8:17:29pm

Never thought I’d see the day when Conservatives would go to such lengths to defend a symbol of Democrat racism.

//

258 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:17:36pm

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Others here have said it already, but I am amazed that the sudden rejection of the Confederate flag by so many unlikely agents of change. I mean, Wal-Mart? The governor of South Carolina? And most of its state assembly?

I lived in Kentucky for almost 30 years, and despite it being a border state, there is still a large segment of the population that considers itself “southern.” Confederate flags everywhere (especially in the South End, the old working class white part of town that’s now home to African and Asian immigrants, too). There is even a confederate monument erected by the city near the U of Louisville. en.wikipedia.org

So I wonder how this rejection of the Confederate flag in the former CSA states is going to affect things in Kentucky. I got some in-laws who will probably fight it tooth and nail.

I wonder if my Dad’s house at Thanksgiving will have a new confederate flag garden.

259 wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2015 8:20:12pm

BEES

260 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:20:58pm

re: #255 jaunte

“In the wake of the contested 1872 election for governor of Louisiana and local offices, a group of white Democrats, armed with rifles and a small cannon, overpowered Republican freedmen and state militia (also black) trying to control the Grant Parish courthouse in Colfax;[1][2] white Republican officeholders were not attacked. Most of the freedmen were killed after they surrendered; nearly 50 were killed later that night after being held as prisoners for several hours.”
en.wikipedia.org

The history they so want to hold onto.

So full of blood, and not of their Great G-Pa’s.

261 Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2015 8:22:37pm

re: #259 wrenchwench

BEES

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Not the bees!!!!

262 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 8:28:22pm

re: #260 #FergusonFireside

Terrorism.

263 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 8:34:27pm

Found one of these in my garage.

Jerusalem Cricket

Preparing to burn the house down now.

264 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:35:03pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Found one of these in my garage.

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Preparing to burn the house down now.

We used to get them all the time in Vista, CA. UGH

265 RadicalModerate  Jun 24, 2015 8:38:10pm

re: #251 jaunte

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Conservative desperation, featuring Gateway Pundit.

Saw this tweet on the Snopes article courtesy of Zazzle:

Hopefully they’ll give the same treatment to the openly neo-Nazi advertisers on their site as well.

266 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:39:44pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Found one of these in my garage.

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Preparing to burn the house down now.

Well, at least now you know where the chirps came from when your jokes fell flat. >:D

267 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:40:08pm

Just because:

…

268 #FergusonFireside  Jun 24, 2015 8:40:24pm

Huge day ahead tomorrow. Nighty.

I’ll check the Rachel Maddow vid tomorrow, still not showing up/playing.

Damn it!!

269 Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2015 8:41:27pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Found one of these in my garage.

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Preparing to burn the house down now.

A few years ago I found one next to my desk trying to burrow through the carpet. I heard a sound and there was a piece of paper moving on the floor, At first I thought it was a mouse. I jumped when I lifted the paper.

270 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 8:43:08pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Well, at least now you know where the chirps came from when your jokes fell flat. >:D

Jerusalem Crickets don’t chirp. They don’t make any noise, they just sit there and portend the End of the World.

271 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 8:44:11pm

re: #269 Single-handed sailor

A few years ago I found one next to my desk trying to burrow through the carpet. I heard a sound and there was a piece of paper moving on the floor, At first I thought it was a mouse. I jumped when I lifted the paper.

They’re so damned creepy.

272 jaunte  Jun 24, 2015 8:44:37pm

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Good grief, it’s yooooge.

273 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:45:24pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

Jerusalem Crickets don’t chirp. They don’t make any noise, they just sit there and portend the End of the World.

It was just a gag line, is all, not meant to be taken seriously.

274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 24, 2015 8:45:43pm

re: #271 goddamnedfrank

They’re so damned creepy.

Probably someone has made a bad SF movie using them as models for the invading critters.

Wikipedia says they make a drumming sound by banging their abdomens on the ground.

275 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 8:45:47pm

Ok, the Maddow video link is active now.

But ICYMI: Maddow interviews First AA cheerleader at Ole Miss

msnbc.com

276 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 8:46:42pm

re: #271 goddamnedfrank

They’re so damned creepy.

Well, how about getting a tarantula. A big spider seems just the ticket for getting rid of a giant cricket (say, that rhymes!).

277 goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2015 8:47:04pm

re: #272 jaunte

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Good grief, it’s yooooge.

Bite your head off, man.

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278 Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2015 8:51:04pm

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

Well, how about getting a tarantula. A big spider seems just the ticket for getting rid of a giant cricket (say, that rhymes!).

Tarantulas are cool, I kept them as pets.

279 austin_blue  Jun 24, 2015 8:56:18pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

I don’t trust myself to post anymore. My anger at the derp is volcanic.

It’s a Confederate Swastika. It needs to be removed from public spaces. Full stop. Burn the motherfucker down and be done with it.

280 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 8:59:03pm
281 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 9:03:23pm

Here’s another Civil War song, though this Union song from early 1863 knocks the Federal side pretty hard. Though after the troubles the Army of the Potomac ran into, you can understand the writer’s frustration,:

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282 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:06:51pm
283 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 9:07:08pm

Uh huh…this should surprise NO ONE!

Dylann Roof may have been regular commenter on neo-Nazi website
It appears that the Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof may have been even more immersed in the online white supremacist movement than previously thought.

284 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:10:22pm
285 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 9:13:03pm

re: #284 Kragar

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286 piratedan  Jun 24, 2015 9:16:02pm

re: #284 Kragar

You know Kragar, this mindless shit really eats me up… “No Liberal is a Patriot”, total bullshit.

This Goddamn country was founded by liberals, radical sob’s who thought that they had the right to govern themselves rather than pay fealty to a monarch. That’s who conservatives were back in the day, loyalists, tories, people who accepted the status of how things were.

For this dimwit troll to state that no liberal can be a patriot just means that no amount of conversation or linkage or education can save this twit until somebody personally saves her bacon from the worst fears of the North Koreans and Cubans invading us ala Red Dawn and telling her that she’s completely full of shit and even THEN I’m not sure that she would get it.

damn, what total fucking idiocy.

287 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 24, 2015 9:16:52pm

re: #282 Kragar

No liberal is a patriot

That is a corker, no? Seems like the more people blather on about patriotism the less they actually know about what it means.

288 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:17:45pm
289 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 9:19:42pm
290 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 9:32:01pm

Criminently! Fuckin’ RWNJs are trollin’. They’re very angry.

291 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:34:10pm
292 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 24, 2015 9:36:23pm

re: #290 teleskiguy

Criminently! Fuckin’ RWNJs are trollin’. They’re very angry.

Their anger defines them. It’s taking them to positions that are going to be very hard from which to come down.

293 psddluva4evah  Jun 24, 2015 9:38:27pm

re: #284 Kragar

I absolutely love that gif. It’s perfect for this!

294 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 9:41:47pm

re: #291 Kragar

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Would you please replace ‘conservative’ with ‘wingnut’? There are many conservatives who aren’t nuts, even though they don’t tweet nearly as much as the nutbars.

295 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 9:45:49pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

You’re a moderate. Admit it!

296 William Lewis  Jun 24, 2015 9:48:03pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Would you please replace ‘conservative’ with ‘wingnut’? There are many conservatives who aren’t nuts, even though they don’t tweet nearly as much as the nutbars.

DF, the number of sane conservatives in the GOP - ones that would not make Burke want to slap them silly - can be counted on one hand. You, despite your protests, are too moderate for your party because you have not abandoned simple human decency.

297 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:49:18pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Would you please replace ‘conservative’ with ‘wingnut’? There are many conservatives who aren’t nuts, even though they don’t tweet nearly as much as the nutbars.

Sorry, but the nutballs own modern conservatism. Time to close shop and move along.

298 Dark_Falcon  Jun 24, 2015 9:51:08pm

re: #295 teleskiguy

You’re a moderate. Admit it!

No, but I’m no friend to Neo-Confederates. I’ll never call the Confederate battle flag a “Southern Swastika” either, for I think that offends and attempts to shame those of Southern origin, but neither should said flag fly over public property either (with a handful of exceptions for places where actual war dead are buried).

Like Abraham Lincoln, my goal is to “Let ‘em up easy”, but that still means the Lost Cause bullshit has to go.

299 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 9:51:46pm
300 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 9:53:34pm

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

Whatever. You’re a moderate!

301 Tigger2  Jun 24, 2015 9:58:53pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Would you please replace ‘conservative’ with ‘wingnut’? There are many conservatives who aren’t nuts, even though they don’t tweet nearly as much as the nutbars.

Dark, her and others like her are the majority of your party now.

302 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 10:36:19pm

Saw this upstairs, retweeted.

It made me cry.

303 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 10:43:12pm
304 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 10:48:48pm
305 Kragar  Jun 24, 2015 10:48:56pm
306 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 10:51:44pm

re: #305 Kragar

Leave it to Mike Luckovich at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution to bring it all back home. Bravo.

307 OhNoZombies!  Jun 24, 2015 11:04:09pm

re: #248 RadicalModerate

These totally non-racist memorials to the “lost cause” just seem to be everywhere.

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And you’re reading those correctly - the three dead white men got a memorial. The one hundred fifty massacred - African-Americans got nothing.

My great grandfather x 3, James Hadnot, was killed in the Colfax Massacre.
The paradox of southern heritage…the part the Rebs. don’t like to talk about.

308 William Lewis  Jun 24, 2015 11:05:25pm

It’s mostly eyewash. Don’t get me wrong, it is inherently a good thing but it remains something that they are willing to give up to avoid discussion of more important things: guns, poverty, the class war of the 1% against the middle class, and the root causes of all of these problems. So all Americans should grab this and be glad of it but not allow ourselves to stop there.

309 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 11:12:43pm

“Lies My Teacher Told Me” by James W. Loewen. The two chapters entitled “The Invisibility of Racism in Textbooks” and “The Invisibility of Anti-Racism in Textbooks” should be required reading in every high school U.S. history class.

310 LastYearsMan  Jun 24, 2015 11:13:31pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

Bite your head off, man.

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Video

My favorite thing about those not-so-old movies is seeing all the public smoking in them. Midnight Run being the best of all, of course (smoking on a plane and bringing on a gun).

311 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2015 11:24:35pm

re: #258 #FergusonFireside

Be sure to point out the MADE IN CHINA tags.

312 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 11:29:46pm
313 teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2015 11:33:37pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

Hey, you can only say so much in 140 characters.

I’m really glad that some of this “Lost Cause” bullshit is being discredited (with such astonishing speed, holy frick!). It’s still going to take a long time to establish the anti-racism part of American History in the mainstream Deep South.

314 Jenner7  Jun 24, 2015 11:49:40pm

Ugh. Watching “Dad” for the first time with Jack Lemmon. He was such a great actor. Now I’m blubbering like an idiot.

315 VegasGolfer  Jun 25, 2015 12:11:16am

facebook.com

316 teleskiguy  Jun 25, 2015 12:11:41am
317 VegasGolfer  Jun 25, 2015 12:14:46am

Go a couple posts down. Look at this hate filled motherfucker (yes I said it)
I might have to do Buisness with on of these two “people”
God help them

318 VegasGolfer  Jun 25, 2015 12:16:35am

facebook.com

319 VegasGolfer  Jun 25, 2015 12:18:22am

Sorry, don’t know how to postage relevant thought from this asshole

320 teleskiguy  Jun 25, 2015 12:20:00am

re: #315 VegasGolfer

re: #318 VegasGolfer

Fuck all that noise. Rubbish. Nonsense.

321 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jun 25, 2015 1:36:49am

re: #296 William Lewis

re: #297 Kragar

re: #301 Tigger2

DF has a point. Just because the wackos have co-opted the word conservative doesn’t make them conservative. It’s gotten to the point that nobody knows what conservatism is anymore. Belieb it or not, there is a lot of overlap between conservative and liberal.
RWNJs are extremists. They are reactionary. It is completely illogical to be both conservative and an extremist (I’ve even heard professional commemtators use the term “radical conservative”). Painting with the broad brush of “conservative” not only distorts the meaning of the word conservative, it gives the wackos some semblance of ideological cover by not calling them what they really are.

322 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 1:55:49am

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge’s lead headline is citing Brietbart, who in turn have an audio clip of Louis Farrakhan, and he’s running with it.

Farrakhan is an outlier - that’s not to say that from time to time, he doesn’t make a legitimate point (the blind squirrel effect), but I know damn well what Drudge is doing - he’s trying to portray Farrakhan as representative of the entire black American community.

The NoI is a fringe group at best with estimates of 20,000 to 50,000 core members - not to mention that their teachings diverge greatly from orthodox Islam (can you say UFO religion? and they’ve hooked up with the Scientologists? - yeah……that’s mighty different, to say the least). But that won’t stop this from becoming a RWNJ talking point - and thus inadvertently give Farrakhan publicity he wouldn’t get otherwise. I’m sure he’s smiling right about now.

323 Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2015 2:06:29am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

The right wing rags are also trying to invoke The New Black Panthers. Their deflections are almost Pavlovian.

324 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 2:12:38am

re: #323 Single-handed sailor

The right wing rags are also trying to invoke The New Black Panthers. Their deflections are almost Pavlovian.

BLACK PANTHERS! LOUIS FARRAKHAN! NATION OF ISLAM! DEMOCRAT FLAG!! SQUIRRRRRRREL!!!!

It’s grimly amusing to watch these reactionaries twist their minds into logic pretzels, frantically trying to divert attention to anyone and anywhere away from themselves.

325 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 2:23:55am

Back later - off to teach.

326 Teukka  Jun 25, 2015 3:10:11am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

BLACK PANTHERS! LOUIS FARRAKHAN! NATION OF ISLAM! DEMOCRAT FLAG!! SQUIRRRRRRREL!!!!

It’s grimly amusing to watch these reactionaries twist their minds into logic pretzels, frantically trying to divert attention to anyone and anywhere away from themselves.

And curious (In an Alice sort of way). They’ve been ditching the Confederate Battle flag a little too quickly and regularly for my taste for it to be just them trying to salvage what’s left of the voter base. My gut indicates they may very well be trying to deflect attention from some area which contains something they don’t want discovered.

327 William Lewis  Jun 25, 2015 3:12:55am

re: #321 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Yes and no. DF sees himself as representing the old school of classic “good” conservatism like his father. I mentioned Burke for a reason. That such a critter is as rare in the real world as a successful communist really doesn’t matter. That he is, in his actual beliefs as expressed here, much more moderate than his party is irrelevant as well. Like a blue dog he’ll vote for whomever his party puts up tbere

328 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 25, 2015 3:53:47am

I am the owner of several Confederate battle flags. In 1/72 scale and in paper, they adorn the standard bearers of my Confederate miniature units.

I have to say that I do not understand why the US National Parks Service has suspended sales of CSA flags: a museum or historical site is about the only place where an official display of such a symbol could be considered appropriate.

Let us not forget that the entire dispute, dating back to the flag’s revival at the height of the Civil Rights struggle, has been about context.

329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 25, 2015 4:01:34am

re: #321 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I agree with a lot of conservative values such as self-reliance, individual initiative and a free market. But I see a free market as a mechanism, not an absolute end in itself in which individuals with limited resources are pitted against multi-billion-dollar corporations.

And I believe in strong families, ones that are able to support, nurture and educate their children on what the parents earn. And I do not care if said parents are of the same or opposite gender as long as they are making the effort to raise their families.

330 Bird in the Paw  Jun 25, 2015 4:06:58am

re: #224 Decatur Deb

That butternut isn’t going to wash itself.

I am guessing that RBS was not implying a wash-maid class of camp follower…

331 Bird in the Paw  Jun 25, 2015 4:17:24am

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Found one of these in my garage.

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Preparing to burn the house down now.

Wingless BEE. With long legs

332 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 4:19:49am

re: #330 Bird in the Paw

I am guessing that RBS was not implying a wash-maid class of camp follower…

Everyone thinks millenials invented multitasking.

333 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 4:44:01am

re: #303 teleskiguy

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When I first saw the photo I thought the same thing. The youngest looked to be so stunned at what was going on. The pain and confusion she (and her sister) must feel is heartbreaking.

334 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 4:51:22am

live.scotusblog.com

335 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 25, 2015 5:11:35am

re: #314 Jenner7

Ugh. Watching “Dad” for the first time with Jack Lemmon. He was such a great actor. Now I’m blubbering like an idiot.

Film made me tear up

336 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 5:14:17am
The Receding Of #SarahPalin, In One Chart 53eig.ht
337 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 5:22:48am

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That is a corker, no? Seems like the more people blather on about patriotism the less they actually know about what it means.

Unquestioning patriotism is the root of atrocity.

Much as it goes with any other sort of fanaticism.

338 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 5:27:52am

re: #336 Dr. Matt

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Good way to show that her non-GOP support was never there in the first place.

339 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 25, 2015 5:29:40am

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That is a corker, no? Seems like the more people blather on about patriotism the less they actually know about what it means.

People who have no idea what a concept really means (like patriotism, Christianity or manhood) are the ones who cling the most to the arbitrary symbols we have come to attach to them.

This allows them to effortlessly conclude that DR was a liberal because he burned a US flag.

340 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 5:32:16am
Grand Army of the Republic Post, Civil War veterans, 1935. Photograph by Addison N. Scurlock
341 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 5:35:32am

re: #331 Bird in the Paw

Wingless BEE. With long legs

Didn’t have Jersusalem crickets where I lived in western PA, but the local brown-colored field crickets got pretty big - and came into the basement and garage all the time.

I’d find a trail of cricket legs leading to the intact body as the cats stalked and beat them up. I think the local wolf spiders ate them since they were pretty large as well.

342 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 5:40:55am

LOL there is a conspiracy nutjerb in my timeline, telling me THIS IS ALL A EBIL CONSPIRACY BY TEH ILLUMINATTIS TRILATERALS BILDERBURGERS FREEMASONS LED BY TEH NOTORIOUS R********D FAMILY!!!!!

He’s being sneaky about the R word but I know where this is heading.

343 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 5:42:02am
344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 5:44:31am

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

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I bet he has ALL THE PHOTOS from that Illuminati party in 1972.
It’s PROOF!!11!!

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345 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 5:45:58am
346 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 5:47:02am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

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And he/she is a Dickweed.

347 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 5:47:11am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

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They are watching him RIGHT NOW via his webcam…

348 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 5:49:10am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are watching him RIGHT NOW via his webcam…

And Google is listening.

349 Franklin  Jun 25, 2015 5:55:21am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

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You are vicious after all.

Says Dickweed Specklebum

350 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 5:55:25am

Donald Trump is being especially stupid this morning, insulting TV hosts whose shows he will want to go on as a candidate.

351 Romantic Heretic  Jun 25, 2015 5:57:12am

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That is a corker, no? Seems like the more people blather on about patriotism the less they actually know about what it means.

As I noted yesterday, ‘patriot’ has become one of the most Orwellian words in existence.

352 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 5:57:20am

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

I’m sure it’s a delicacy in some cuisine, somewhere in the world.

353 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:01:08am

WATCH: Fearless house cat scares bear away from home

354 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 6:06:12am

re: #350 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Trump is being especially stupid this morning, insulting TV hosts whose shows he will want to go on as a candidate.

No one can contain The Donald™…not even himself.

355 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 6:06:28am

scotusblog’s simple English explanation of the remaining 7 cases:

scotusblog.com

356 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 6:07:55am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

The BBC has a video of a housecat confronting a mountain lion in Boulder, but the two kitties are separated by a patio door. The mountain lion looks surprisingly intimidated, even so.

Is it now more common for cougars to visit people’s backyards in Colorado?

357 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 6:08:11am

re: #349 Franklin

Says Dickweed Specklebum

Actually it’s about ethics in Specklebum.

358 Romantic Heretic  Jun 25, 2015 6:09:29am

re: #321 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I try not to use the words ‘conservative’ and ‘liberal’, or left and right. The former pair because they are pretty much meaningless. The latter because the boarding requirements of horses shouldn’t define our political discourse.

I prefer Jefferson.

Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, liberals and serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, whigs and tories, republicans and federalists, aristocrats and democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last appellation of aristocrats and democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all.

I also add the term barbarian to my usage. Barbarian as defined by H. Beam Piper as ‘someone who doesn’t understand civilization and wouldn’t like it if they did.’

The racists, theocrats and oligarchs that make up much of the ‘conservative’ movement these days are aristocrats. The anarchists, I mean libertarians, that make up the rest of it are barbarians.

Much more useful I think.

359 Franklin  Jun 25, 2015 6:11:12am

re: #357 De Kolta Chair

Have an upvote for the first real laugh of the day!

360 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:12:27am
But I think Lindsey Graham may just win the prize today for the many layers of bigotry, stupidity and blind denial that he managed to pack into just three words: “That’s Mideast hate.”

So Roof was actually a secret Muslim Brotherhood Islamic Jihadist?

////

361 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 6:13:04am

Live SCOTUS blog of opinions

Amy Howe: We don’t know how many decisions we are getting today. There are seven left: a logical distribution might be something along the lines of 3 today, two tomorrow, and two on Monday, but it’s all just a mildly educated guess.
9:03 AM

Amy Howe: The conventional wisdom has King v. Burwell coming tomorrow and SSM on Monday, but that is (again) just a mildly educated guess.
9:03 AM

362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:13:51am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

Live SCOTUS blog of opinions

Good grief.

Just release them all, assuming they’re done.

363 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 6:15:27am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

A few today, maybe one tomorrow, the rest on Monday.

They’re such teases….

364 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 6:17:47am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Good grief.

Just release them all, assuming they’re done.

It’s like waiting for the results of the Hell’s Kitchen loser!

//

365 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:18:14am

re: #338 Feline Fearless Leader

Good way to show that her non-GOP support was never there in the first place.

And that the more people got to know her, the less they liked her.

366 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 6:20:07am

The King v. Burwell case is, I’m thinking, going to open the door for some real political debate in the coming election. Because several of the states which don’t have their own exchanges still have many people participating, and the loss of insurance by those people could tip the balance in some of the state elections. And we have seen Republican governors go along with the ACA out of practicality, not being so hardcore dogmatically as the right wing political pundits would like them to be.

Practicality is the death-knell of glibertarianism.

367 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:20:26am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge’s lead headline is citing Brietbart, who in turn have an audio clip of Louis Farrakhan, and he’s running with it.

Farrakhan is an outlier - that’s not to say that from time to time, he doesn’t make a legitimate point (the blind squirrel effect), but I know damn well what Drudge is doing - he’s trying to portray Farrakhan as representative of the entire black American community.

The NoI is a fringe group at best with estimates of 20,000 to 50,000 core members - not to mention that their teachings diverge greatly from orthodox Islam (can you say UFO religion? and they’ve hooked up with the Scientologists? - yeah……that’s mighty different, to say the least). But that won’t stop this from becoming a RWNJ talking point - and thus inadvertently give Farrakhan publicity he wouldn’t get otherwise. I’m sure he’s smiling right about now.

If we have to take down Confederate Battle Flag how come we can’t put Farrakhan in jail for being in New Black Panther Party!?!??!???!!?

368 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:21:39am
369 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:22:07am

re: #365 Decatur Deb

And that the more people got to know her, the less they liked her.

It’s all the fault of liberal Media lamestream for making her look bad!!1

370 Franklin  Jun 25, 2015 6:22:25am

We will have the results of King v. Burwell……….after these messages.

371 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:23:29am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grab a box of Kleenex, because you’re going to need something to wipe up all the tears of laughter empathy you’re about to shed for America’s most oppressed majority.

372 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:24:00am

re: #358 Romantic Heretic

I try not to use the words ‘conservative’ and ‘liberal’, or left and right. The former pair because they are pretty much meaningless. The latter because the boarding requirements of horses shouldn’t define our political discourse.

I prefer Jefferson.

I also add the term barbarian to my usage. Barbarian as defined by H. Beam Piper as ‘someone who doesn’t understand civilization and wouldn’t like it if they did.’

The racists, theocrats and oligarchs that make up much of the ‘conservative’ movement these days are aristocrats. The anarchists, I mean libertarians, that make up the rest of it are barbarians.

Much more useful I think.

That works. So does “the Red and the Black”. Hope v. Fear seems to be at the bottom of it.

373 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:24:55am

re: #371 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Bryan Fischer will start us off, because nobody can top Bryan Fischer in the bugfuck insane department. All others who repeat his words are simply Bryan Fischer’s Big Nelly Bottoms:

374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:24:58am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

The rainbow flag represents the homosexual lobby, it represents Big Gay, it represents what I’m calling for the first time today, I’m introducing a new term: the Gay Reich.

Bryan Fischer, lexiconographer.

//

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 6:26:04am

re: #356 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The BBC has a video of a housecat confronting a mountain lion in Boulder, but the two kitties are separated by a patio door. The mountain lion looks surprisingly intimidated, even so.

Is it now more common for cougars to visit people’s backyards in Colorado?

Toy poodles are good eating.

Chat Noir was terrorized by the neighbor’s cat last night. He was out and one of their cats got out while I was going over there for dinner.

This cat, a 7.5 lb female calico, was lying on her back and mewed at Chat Noir a few times since she wanted to be friendly and play. Chat Noir, who weighs about 11 lb, was frantically trying to get back into the apartment. The other cat batted at his tail and he literally jumped about a foot in the air. He got back in, and Tuxedo Cat threw a hissy fit at the neighbor’s cat upon sight of her.

The cat interactions here are interesting. Limited interactions among the four of them but boils down to:
Tuxedo Cat - hates all other cats; tolerates Chat Noir
Chat Noir - friendly with people; curious; very leery of neighbor cats
Miss Kitty - Friendly neighbor cat who likes to come out in the hall - doesn’t seem to understand the hostility and fear she inspires in my feline overlords
Lucy - aloof neighbor cat who does not come out into the hall. If you have chicken, now that is a new conversation altogether!

376 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:26:11am

re: #370 Franklin

We will have the results of King v. Burwell……….after these messages.

It’s like the Heisman trophy award show, 59 minutes of blather, one minute at end of show announcing winner.

377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:28:14am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dead Breitbart’s John Nolte is dumber than a bag of syphilitic fucks,

378 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:28:44am

re: #377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Nolte’s compatriot at Dead Breitbart, the never-nude Vestal Virgin Ben Shapiro, is being oppressed by rainbow flags AND crosswalks:

379 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:28:48am

re: #376 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s like the Heisman trophy award show, 59 minutes of blather, one minute at end of show announcing winner.

Unless you’ve spent a few afternoons in the Churchill Downs infield, you don’t appreciate long buildup/rapid letdown.

380 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:28:58am

re: #377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Nolte followed up his little Twitter diaper-loading session with a short column:

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:30:28am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Unless you’ve spent a few afternoons in the Churchill Downs infield, you don’t appreciate long buildup/rapid letdown.

A never-ending supply of mint juleps fixes that.

382 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 6:30:29am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Note the “homeschool” spelling
Katt forgot that HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS INVENTED TEH KKK FLAG!!!11!!!!

383 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 6:32:10am

Speaking of spelling, CNN notices:

Dumb and ‘dummer’ strike Trump’s O’Donnell tweet

384 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:32:51am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

A never-ending supply of mint juleps fixes that.

When she was 17, Wife went AWOL. Her Baptist mother caught the crowd scan of the infield. (Wife made 2-3 trips to the Derby before she saw a horse.)

385 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 6:35:17am

Crap

386 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 6:35:21am

And here is a meme that blames Blacks for slavery==>

387 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 6:35:35am

re: #384 Decatur Deb

When she was 17, Wife went AWOL. Her Baptist mother caught the crowd scan of the infield. (Wife made 2-3 trips to the Derby before she saw a horse.)

I’ve gotten the impression that the major horseraces are mainly for the event/gathering itself and less about the actual race. Had co-workers who would go to the Preakness every year, and all they talked about after coming back was the party and drinking.

388 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 6:36:05am

Mornin’ everyone. Looks like shit’s still not settled.

389 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 6:36:44am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

A never-ending supply of (watery, overpriced) mint juleps fixes that.

Corrected for accuracy.

390 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 6:37:49am

re: #388 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Looks like shit’s still not settled.

I think the SC GOP is hoping to be saved from the newscycle by the SCOTUS decisions coming out. Otherwise the focus remains on them and there will be expectations of them actually doing something.

391 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 6:39:05am

Speaking of sports, here’s Hall of Famer (and licensed locksmith) Bill “Spaceman” Lee on playing pick-up basketball with Geraldo Rivera:

He’s the worst athlete in history. He couldn’t chew gum and walk at the same time. He’d bounce a ball and it’d never come back to his hand. Man, he was terrible. He always got picked last. He got picked last.

392 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 6:40:02am

re: #387 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve gotten the impression that the major horseraces are mainly for the event/gathering itself and less about the actual race. Had co-workers who would go to the Preakness every year, and all they talked about after coming back was the party and drinking.

I’ve been to the Derby infield three times. It’s more an exercise in cultural anthropology than in watching the races. The infield is wall to wall people in various stages of inebriation and undress, despite efforts to clean things up over the years, and the only way to see the horses is to force your way through the crowd to the inside fence.

393 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 6:42:22am

re: #390 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the SC GOP is hoping to be saved from the newscycle by the SCOTUS decisions coming out. Otherwise the focus remains on them and there will be expectations of them actually doing something.

SCOTUS, somebody, anybody throw us a lifeline!

394 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 6:44:22am

re: #392 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve been to the Derby infield three times. It’s more an exercise in cultural anthropology than in watching the races. The infield is wall to wall people in various stages of inebriation and undress, despite efforts to clean things up over the years, and the only way to see the horses is to force your way through the crowd to the inside fence.

I also have the impression that the infields for NASCAR and Indy races are like this as well. Though the race takes longer and thus I guess you have a higher chance of actually seeing a race car in motion.

395 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:44:40am

re: #392 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve been to the Derby infield three times. It’s more an exercise in cultural anthropology than in watching the races. The infield is wall to wall people in various stages of inebriation and undress, despite efforts to clean things up over the years, and the only way to see the horses is to force your way through the crowd to the inside fence.

A co-worker was married to a guy whose family works a lot of the concessions. We managed to throw a Derby party in Seoul at around 0300, with that year’s correct glasses and napkins.

396 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 6:48:58am

Another Conservative who didn’t get the memo that HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ INVENTED TEH REBEL FLAG!!!!!!

KLSouth has blocked The Babushka, I has a sad :(

397 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 6:49:33am

re: #395 Decatur Deb

A co-worker was married to a guy whose family works a lot of the concessions. We managed to throw a Derby party in Seoul at around 0300, with that year’s correct glasses and napkins.

Sweet! A friend of mine has a nearly complete set of Derby glasses. Somewhere I have one or two that survived my visits to the Infield in the mid-80s.

The build to the race is something to behold. Louisville has turned a two-minute race into a two-week-long extravaganza of entertainment and tourist attractions. And for one or two days (for the Oaks and the Derby), the rich and famous, and the world’s media pay attention to Louisville, KY. The other 363 days of the year it’s like “Louisville where?”

398 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 6:49:47am

More Bill Lee trivia: Bill Lee was so great that Warren Zevon wrote a song about him. That’s how great Bill Lee was.

…

You’re supposed to sit on your ass and nod at stupid things
Man, that’s hard to do
And if you don’t, they’ll screw you
And if you do, they’ll screw you, too

399 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 6:50:42am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Another Conservative who didn’t get the memo that HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ INVENTED TEH REBEL FLAG!!!!!!

KLSouth has blocked The Babushka, I has a sad :(

So, Kelly thinks the former states of the CSA will try Secession 2,0? She’s delusional.

400 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 6:52:05am

Two boxes of opinions.

401 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 6:53:06am

re: #397 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sweet! A friend of mine has a nearly complete set of Derby glasses. Somewhere I have one or two that survived my visits to the Infield in the mid-80s.

The build to the race is something to behold. Louisville has turned a two-minute race into a two-week-long extravaganza of entertainment and tourist attractions. And for one or two days (for the Oaks and the Derby), the rich and famous, and the world’s media pay attention to Louisville, KY. The other 363 days of the year it’s like “Louisville where?”

Yeah. The Derby Week idea was just growing then. Now it even includes a hot-air balloon race. My biggest educational mistake was turning down the chance to get a balloonist license for the cost of a UofL PE course.

402 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 25, 2015 6:53:10am

re: #394 Feline Fearless Leader

I also have the impression that the infields for NASCAR and Indy races are like this as well. Though the race takes longer and thus I guess you have a higher chance of actually seeing a race car in motion.

The old Riverside Raceway would allow you to park your car in the infield from Thursday practice through the big race on Sunday. You could see some nice stretches of the track from just about anywhere. The infield was grass and sleeping under the stars was recommended. It was Woodstock for gearheads.

403 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 6:54:28am

If the two biggest political hot button cases are being reserved for Friday and Monday, then what will we get today? Perhaps the one on executions by injections?

404 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 6:57:52am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Another Conservative who didn’t get the memo that HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ INVENTED TEH REBEL FLAG!!!!!!

KLSouth has blocked The Babushka, I has a sad :(

I thought the rebel flag was for Bobby E Lee?

/

405 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 25, 2015 6:59:48am

re: #399 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, Kelly thinks the former states of the CSA will try Secession 2,0? She’s delusional.

You caught that too. I took it as an attempt at a threat. The people who actually do yank Kelly’s chain know damned good and well that secession would precipitate economic collapse in the states that tried it.

406 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:01:38am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Another Conservative who didn’t get the memo that HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ INVENTED TEH REBEL FLAG!!!!!!

KLSouth has blocked The Babushka, I has a sad :(

StatesRights to do what?

/

Ban the gay marriage!!!!111

407 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:02:40am

Clearly not mean enough to get the True Conservative vote:

Mulling presidential run, Ohio Gov. Kasich says he opposes deporting undocumented immigrants

What does it say about today’s GOP when John Kasich is the moderate of the group?

408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:03:51am

First decision is something on Texas housing.

409 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:04:02am

First opinion is Texas Housing. 5-4 Fifth Circuit affirmed and remanded.
Disparate impact claims are cognizable under the Fair Housing Act.

The issue in this case is whether the Fair Housing Act allows lawsuits based on disparate impact - that is, an allegation that a law or practice has a discriminatory effect, even if it wasn’t based on a discriminatory purpose. The Court had granted review to consider this question in two earlier cases, but both of those cases settled before the Court could rule on them. - See more at: live.scotusblog.com

410 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:04:43am

re: #407 freetoken

Clearly not mean enough to get the True Conservative vote:

Mulling presidential run, Ohio Gov. Kasich says he opposes deporting undocumented immigrants

What does it say about today’s GOP when John Kasich is the moderate of the group?

Guess he wants to stay governor

411 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:04:48am

re: #408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s considered a loss for the anti-anti-discrimination crowd.

412 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:06:54am
So the Court holds that there is a disparate impact claim under the FHA as a matter of statutory interpretation, but it the Court cautions that remedial orders in disparate impact cases that impose racial targets or quotas could be unconstitutional. - See more at: live.scotusblog.com
413 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:06:56am

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

First opinion is Texas Housing. 5-4 Fifth Circuit affirmed and remanded.
Disparate impact claims are cognizable under the Fair Housing Act.

Thomas and Scalia and Alito dissented. That means it was a good decision.

414 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:07:25am
415 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:08:04am

re: #413 darthstar

Thomas and Scalia and Alito dissented. That means it was a good decision.

Like swearing an oath.

Also serves as collateral in a loan.

416 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:08:10am

re: #413 darthstar

And Roberts

417 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:09:24am

re: #413 darthstar

Thomas and Scalia and Alito dissented. That means it was a good decision.

Do Thomas, Scalia and Alito dissent by default for every case?

/

418 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:09:29am

Decision of the Fourth Circuit is affirmed in King v. Burwell. 6-3. - See more at: live.scotusblog.com

419 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:09:35am

… boom…

420 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:09:50am

Decision of the Fourth Circuit is affirmed in King v. Burwell. 6-3.

421 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:09am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Decision of the Fourth Circuit is affirmed in King v. Burwell. 6-3. - See more at: live.scotusblog.com

so what does this mean?

422 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:15am

Roberts writing the opinion.
Holding: Subsidies are available.

423 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:29am

Okay…what the fuck does affirmed mean in this case? Obamacare won, right?

424 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:32am
This means that individuals who get their health insurance through an exchange established by the federal government will be eligible for tax subsidies. - See more at: live.scotusblog.com
425 blueraven  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:42am

re: #423 darthstar

Okay…what the fuck does affirmed mean in this case? Obamacare won, right?

Yes

426 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:44am

re: #420 darthstar

Surprisingly large, that 6 votes.

427 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:10:48am

re: #423 darthstar

Okay…what the fuck does affirmed mean in this case? Obamacare won, right?

Yes

428 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:11:29am

re: #426 freetoken

Surprisingly large, that 6 votes.

The six are the Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan.

429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:11:43am

re: #426 freetoken

Surprisingly large, that 6 votes.

Let me guess…Thomas, Alito and Scalia dissent?

430 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:03am

I can hear RW heads exploding from all the way here in China.

431 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:09am

That’s it for opinions today.

432 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:15am

I figured as much, but sometimes the legalese catches me off guard.

433 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:34am

re: #426 freetoken

Surprisingly large, that 6 votes.

Something tells me TCOT isn’t going to be happy.

Somebody make sure Ben Shapiro doesn’t have the key to the liquor cabinet.

434 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:44am

re: #429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Let me guess…Thomas, Alito and Scalia dissent?

That’s affirmative.

435 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:50am
Short story is a victory for the ACA and the Obama Administration.
by Eric Citron 10:10 AM
live.scotusblog.com

Suck it, conservatives!

436 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:54am

re: #429 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Let me guess…Thomas, Alito and Scalia dissent?

of course

437 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:12:57am
438 Bird in the Paw  Jun 25, 2015 7:13:28am

re: #352 freetoken

I’m sure it’s a delicacy in some cuisine, somewhere in the world.

Don’t mock the eating of insects. We should be moving away from a meat based protein source to an insect based protein source.

Insects Feed The World
Conference Insects to feed the world

The first international conference “Insects to feed the world” was very successful. Therefore, we would like to thank everyone who contributed in any way for this energetic and dynamic conference.

439 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:13:40am

re: #435 Dr. Matt

Suck it, conservatives!

Outrageous Outrage!!!111

Not a good week for wingnuts.

440 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:13:46am
441 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:14:48am

Yep…he did call it back in February.

442 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:14:56am

re: #437 Lidane

Really should have been 9-0, but we’ll take what we can get.

But, but, but GRUBER!!!!!111

443 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 7:14:59am
444 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:15:22am

Scalia seems to be bitter.

445 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:15:28am
446 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:15:41am

Burwell opinion (PDF)

447 blueraven  Jun 25, 2015 7:16:06am

Actually, I bet most republican politicians are breathing a sign of relief.

448 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:16:14am

re: #445 Lidane

Somebody cue the gif with POTUS kicking the door down.

449 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 7:16:20am

re: #433 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Something tells me TCOT isn’t going to be happy.

Somebody make sure Ben Shapiro doesn’t have the key to the liquor cabinet.

Too late.

450 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:16:39am

re: #447 blueraven

Agree. It gets some Republicans off the hot seat.

451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:17:21am

re: #447 blueraven

Actually, I bet most republican politicians are breathing a sign of relief.

Now they can go back to publicly demanding that Obamacare be repealed while privately being relieved.

452 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:17:57am

re: #447 blueraven

Actually, I bet most republican politicians are breathing a sign of relief.

Considering they had nothing as an alternative to the ACA, for sure they are relieved.

453 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:18:18am

Does anyone know who wrote the ACA opinion? Twitter is unhelpful.

454 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:18:39am

re: #450 freetoken

Agree. It gets some Republicans off the hot seat.

Yep. Now they can wave their empty document and say, “We have a cure for Obamacare, but SCOTUS made it unnecessary, so let’s just move along and not talk about healthcare anymore leading up to the elections.”

455 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:18:56am

re: #453 Lidane

Does anyone know who wrote the ACA opinion? Twitter is unhelpful.

Roberts.

456 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:19:00am

re: #453 Lidane

Does anyone know who wrote the ACA opinion? Twitter is unhelpful.

Roberts

457 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 7:19:01am
458 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:19:18am

re: #455 darthstar

4 damn seconds

459 Bird in the Paw  Jun 25, 2015 7:19:26am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Good grief.

Just release them all, assuming they’re done.

Nina Totenberg was discussing this release of decisions yesterday and said that SCOTUS doesn’t do this to torture us, rather, they are finalizing making sure that as is well with their writing, both concurrence and dissent. Grain of salt ans all that.

460 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:08am

If I heard npr correctly, Scalia wrote something like this in his dissent:

We should call it SCOTUS care from now on.

461 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:10am

LOL I had to update the Ben Shapiro Derpapalooza

462 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:13am

re: #455 darthstar

re: #456 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thank you!

463 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:15am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

And yes, I told you so at the time.

Who the hell did he tell? He was still in fucking college when Roberts was nominated.

464 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:25am

re: #402 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The old Riverside Raceway would allow you to park your car in the infield from Thursday practice through the big race on Sunday. You could see some nice stretches of the track from just about anywhere. The infield was grass and sleeping under the stars was recommended. It was Woodstock for gearheads.

Like Watkins Glen on a US Grand Prix weekend. One of the biggest parties I ever was a part of, at least 100,000 people all cold, wet, drunk and high. It was either the last weekend of September or first weekend of October in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

Different times. Now it is in Austin Texas and all cleaned up.

465 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:20:48am

Scalia ain’t happy.

466 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 25, 2015 7:21:10am

re: #447 blueraven

Actually, I bet most republican politicians are breathing a sign of relief.

As are the Republican congressional staffers who were half way through rewriting ACA as Republicancare.

467 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:21:14am

re: #458 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

4 damn seconds

That’s longer than the wait time for an appointment.

468 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 7:21:58am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

Too late.

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As I have told conservatives for years, do not place your trust in the oligarchs of the Supreme Court.

Yes Ben, we should put our trust in the aristocrats of big business because they care so fucking much about us.

469 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 7:22:09am

Heh. Good news regarding the SCOTUS and King v. Burwell.

President Obama right now:

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470 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:22:24am

re: #463 Timothy Watson

How the hell did he tell? He was still in fucking college when Roberts was nominated.

Ben has the same time machine as UpChuck, which gives young’uns the ability to stretch their paltry few years of quasi-adulthood into decades. “For years” in non-dilated time means “about a half-dozen years.”

471 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 7:22:27am

And now, the wingnut butthurt

472 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:22:49am

re: #407 freetoken

Clearly not mean enough to get the True Conservative vote:

Mulling presidential run, Ohio Gov. Kasich says he opposes deporting undocumented immigrants

What does it say about today’s GOP when John Kasich is the moderate of the group?

Just as I predicted. He is going to try to out moderate the whole group.

473 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:23:30am
474 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 25, 2015 7:23:47am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

And now, the wingnut butthurt

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“Captain! She canna’ take much more!”

475 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:24:06am

re: #472 ObserverArt

Just as I predicted. He is going to try to out moderate the whole group.

Not difficult to do, given Graham blames Middle-easterners for all hate, Trump still blames the Japanese for this and that, and Huckabee defends child molesters.

It doesn’t take much to be a “moderate” compared to that crowd.

476 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 7:25:10am

re: #465 darthstar

Scalia ain’t happy.

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Or could just go with “Affordable Care Act”. Concise, to the point, no person/institution to hang it on. STOP THE CHILDISHNESS.

477 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 7:25:57am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

And now, the wingnut butthurt

If Medicare and Medicaid don’t kill it first!!!1!!

478 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 7:26:06am
From the intro to Scalia’s dissent: the majority’s reading of the text “is of course quite absurd, and the Court’s 21 pages of explanation make it no less so.”
by Kevin Russell 10:20 AM
live.scotusblog.com

He’s such a dick.

479 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:26:34am
480 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 7:26:41am

re: #474 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Captain! She canna’ take much more!”

…

481 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:26:52am

I may be an optimist, but I’m going to predict the Court finds in favor of SSM. There will be much RWNJ wailing, rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.

It’ll be fun to watch.

482 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 7:27:48am

re: #473 Lidane

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Maybe Zell Miller?

483 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 7:28:55am

re: #481 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be an optimist, but I’m going to predict the Court finds in favor of SSM. There will be much RWNJ wailing, rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.

It’ll be fun to watch.

They’ll go into a full-on Chernobyl-esque meltdown. Seriously.

I’mma have to get some more popcorn!

484 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:29:11am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yippie!

I wonder if the court was protecting the GOP a bit with that. Heading into elections that could have been bad for the OGOP (Once Grand Old Party).

People say this court is a business court. I wonder if the health insurance companies got a little message passed that ACA was good for business.

485 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 7:29:57am

re: #481 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be an optimist, but I’m going to predict the Court finds in favor of SSM. There will be much RWNJ wailing, rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.

It’ll be fun to watch.

Regarding whether a state has to accept a ssm from another state - I don’t see how that could be not upheld.

Whether all the anti-ssm laws in the various states will be struck down - that I can’t call. I can see why a justice might find hiding room in some obscure precedent, in order to try to avoid confronting the issue head on.

486 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:29:58am

re: #484 ObserverArt

Yippie!

I wonder if the court was protecting the GOP a bit with that. Heading into elections that could have been bad for the OGOP (Once Grand Old Party).

People say this court is a business court. I wonder if the health insurance companies got a little message passed that ACA was good for business.

That was the word on SCOTUSblog.

487 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jun 25, 2015 7:29:59am

re: #481 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be an optimist, but I’m going to predict the Court finds in favor of SSM. There will be much RWNJ wailing, rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.

It’ll be fun to watch.

If it does find in favor that ruling plus the ACA ruling will cut the ground out from under the feet of the wingnuttier GOP presidential aspirants.

488 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:30:09am
489 Drive By Commenter  Jun 25, 2015 7:31:27am

So maybe now the Republicans can unveil that alternate “plan” they had just to show the American people what they lost? That would show us. Yeah. That would be magical. Thank goodness.

490 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 7:31:56am

re: #464 ObserverArt

Like Watkins Glen on a US Grand Prix weekend. One of the biggest parties I ever was a part of, at least 100,000 people all cold, wet, drunk and high. It was either the last weekend of September or first weekend of October in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

Different times. Now it is in Austin Texas and all cleaned up.

Are you absolutely sure that wasn’t Woodstock?

491 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:32:03am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

As I have told conservatives for years, do not place your trust in the oligarchs of the Supreme Court.
— Ben Shapiro

Ben Shapiro—wiseman and oracle, leading statesman of the GOP.

/

492 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:32:25am

re: #475 freetoken

Not difficult to do, given Graham blames Middle-easterners for all hate, Trump still blames the Japanese for this and that, and Huckabee defends child molesters.

It doesn’t take much to be a “moderate” compared to that crowd.

Exactly. Let the others fall on their swords and you can act like a nice guy. And Kasich is a good GOP actor. Scratch him and it’s still GOP under the grease paint.

493 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 7:33:34am

re: #476 Eventual Carrion

Or could just go with “Affordable Care Act”. Concise, to the point, no person/institution to hang it on. STOP THE CHILDISHNESS.

Wife says: “They can call it ‘Scrotumcare’, as long as people get their meds.”

494 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:34:40am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

And now, the wingnut butthurt

Wingnuts sound revolutionary, although GOP wiseman, oracle and statesman, Ben Shapiro, assures me that only Leftists are revolutionary and utopian.

495 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 7:35:02am

re: #493 Decatur Deb

Wife says: “They can call it ‘Scrotumcare’, as long as people get their meds.”

And truthfully, I care about my scrotum more than almost anything in the world :-)

496 weave  Jun 25, 2015 7:35:28am

re: #483 Dr Lizardo

They’ll go into a full-on Chernobyl-esque meltdown. Seriously.

I’mma have to get some more popcorn!

Better also grab a bullet-proof vest. :-(

497 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:36:15am

re: #491 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ben Shapiro—wiseman and oracle, leading statesman of the GOP.

/

I checked his bio on Wikipedia. He published his first book in 2004, on “liberal universities.” I’m not going to bother chasing down when he first told cons not to trust SCOTUS, but his “for years” is exaggeration.

498 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:36:18am
499 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 25, 2015 7:37:01am

re: #495 Eventual Carrion

And truthfully, I care about my scrotum more than almost anything in the world :-)

Woody Allen once said his brain was his second-favorite organ.

500 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:40:48am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

@POTUS ignores Constitution; #Congress does nothing; #DOJ reinforces unconstitutional; #SCOTUS an activist court. ENOUGH! We must act. #tcot
— Lady Liberty

Isn’t the definition of an activist court one that over-rules an act of the legislature, as opposed to upholding such an act?

Just trying to follow the wingnut logic of this.

/

501 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:42:56am

But, but…but GRUBERGATE!!! We haz the video!!!!!

502 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:43:23am

LOL!

503 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:45:11am
504 weave  Jun 25, 2015 7:45:24am

redstate.com calls for scrubbing Robert Byrd’s name from all WV government buildings and roads. (linked via donotlink.com)

I realize they think they are being clever, but I agree with them. Make it so.

Edit: OK, I did some reading up on Byrd’s history and see he profusely apologized for belonging to the KK and said it was the biggest mistake of his life. So in the spirit of Christian redemption, I’ve reconsidered this comment.

505 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:46:45am

Think I’ll go over to CCJ’s Twitter page to see what he thinks of the SCOTUS ruling.

Oh wait….

506 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:48:00am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

And now, the wingnut butthurt

[Lady Liberty @LadyLibrty
@POTUS ignores Constitution; #Congress does nothing; #DOJ reinforces unconstitutional; #SCOTUS an activist court. ENOUGH! We must act. #tcot
10:21 AM - 25 Jun 2015]

We must act! Everyone get another 6-pack of Bud, some more chips and put extra cheese on that ham sammich. I gots to sit in front of FOX and bitch and cry about this!!!

507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:48:53am

re: #506 ObserverArt

#DOJ reinforces unconstitutional

LOL, whut?

508 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:49:21am
509 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 7:49:36am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

And now, the wingnut butthurt

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And the GOP wonders why African-Americans vote for the Democratic Party. Giving subsidies for insurance is just like the Dred Scott decision? Sheesh.

510 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 7:50:04am

re: #507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

LOL, whut?

The DOJ deployed another armored division to help Obama…or something.

511 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:50:33am

OK, so what does the GOP try next to end healthcare for millions?

512 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:52:32am

Obama bullied SCOTUS to get subsidies approved!!!111

I think that’ll be the next tcot meme

513 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 7:53:43am

re: #511 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

OK, so what does the GOP try next to end healthcare for millions?

Another government shutdown? Or is that too trite?

514 sizzzzlerz  Jun 25, 2015 7:53:45am

SCOTUS upholds ACA!

Thanks, Obama!

515 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 7:54:14am

re: #512 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Obama bullied SCOTUS to get subsidies approved!!!111

I think that’ll be the next tcot meme

A lot of the denizens of the FR fever swamp are convinced that President Obama “has something” on Chief Justice Roberts.

*smh*

516 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:54:50am
517 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:54:54am

re: #513 Timothy Watson

Another government shutdown? Or is that too trite?

Ted Cruz will filibuster until SCOTUS agrees to….something.

518 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 7:55:47am

Those Freeper mofos are losing all their shit.

How many of these 6 (Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan ) are HOMOSEXUALS ?

The gauntlets are off now….

Roberts is a Pedophile, there I said it!

My statement is intentional slander and libel, come get me fed gov, Roberts, Prove ME wrong you kiddie fiddling piece of crap!

This has GOT to be what they HAVE ON Roberts!!!!

What ELSE could they have on this Weasel???

51 posted on 6/25/2015, 9:16:16 AM by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don’t Protect Illegal Alien Boarders…)

519 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:55:56am
520 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 7:56:28am
521 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:56:50am

re: #518 Decatur Deb

Those Freeper mofos are losing all their shit.

How many of these 6 (Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan ) are HOMOSEXUALS ?

The gauntlets are off now….

Roberts is a Pedophile, there I said it!

My statement is intentional slander and libel, come get me fed gov, Roberts, Prove ME wrong you kiddie fiddling piece of crap!

This has GOT to be what they HAVE ON Roberts!!!!

What ELSE could they have on this Weasel???

51 posted on 6/25/2015, 9:16:16 AM by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don’t Protect Illegal Alien Boarders…)

Hopefully they’ll all stay home and off the roads.

522 lockjawcanbefun  Jun 25, 2015 7:57:06am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

523 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 7:57:25am

BREAKING MEH — Chris Christie will throw his fat hat into the ring next Tuesday at his old high school.

524 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 7:57:39am

re: #518 Decatur Deb

How many of these 6 (Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan ) are HOMOSEXUALS ?

Freeper seems confused, thinks ACA ruling was SSM ruling.

525 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:58:04am

Friendly reminder for hobbyists…your need for drone video doesn’t take precedence.

526 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 7:58:24am

re: #515 Dr Lizardo

A lot of the denizens of the FR fever swamp are convinced that President Obama “has something” on Chief Justice Roberts.

*smh*

But it wasn’t enough to stop Roberts from overturning the Voting Rights Act?

527 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 7:58:29am

re: #520 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Red flag—excessive display in the endzone.

528 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 7:58:31am

BLACK ROBED TYRANTS! ACTIVIST COURT! ELEVENTY!

529 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 7:58:44am

re: #490 Decatur Deb

Are you absolutely sure that wasn’t Woodstock?

It was my Woodstock. Instead of loud rock ‘n’ roll, the sound was provided by Ford Cosworths V8s, V-12 Ferraris, Alfa-Romeos and Matras and the first of the Renault Turbos…and the rock stars were Andretti, Lauda, Hunt, Fittipaldi and the gang.

530 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 7:59:07am

re: #523 De Kolta Chair

BREAKING MEH — Chris Christie will announce his candidacy next Tuesday at his old high school.

I think there are term (as well as age) limits and that he can’t be student body president again.

531 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 8:00:20am

re: #528 Lidane

BLACK ROBED TYRANTS! ACTIVIST COURT! ELEVENTY!

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532 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 8:00:42am

The fact that there were 3 votes to overturn subsidies is fucking insane.

533 darthstar  Jun 25, 2015 8:00:53am
534 weave  Jun 25, 2015 8:01:27am

re: #528 Lidane

BLACK ROBED TYRANTS! ACTIVIST COURT! ELEVENTY!

Oh what a load of horse shit. You know the entire GOP are glad it went this way, since they’d be stuck into a corner and have to DO SOMETHING and piss off their base if it went the other way.

535 urbanmeemaw  Jun 25, 2015 8:02:34am

re: #128 Charles Johnson

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This calls for capes. And movie franchises.

536 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 25, 2015 8:04:01am

“This brand of hate is as American as the Ku Klux Klan — as red, white and blue as the Confederate battle flag. It’s white supremacist hate, and this is far from the first time it’s erupted into violence in this country.”

I can’t upding this enough.

537 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 8:05:11am

re: #507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

LOL, whut?

Constitutional judges ruling on a program written by the administration of a President that just happens to be highly educated in Constitutional law.

UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

538 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 8:05:19am
539 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 25, 2015 8:06:16am

re: #533 darthstar

You forgot the bowl of “Free Bird Seed”.
:p

540 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 8:06:57am

One would believe that conservatives would start being sick and tired of being on the wrong side of history….ALWAYS. Jebus. What will it take for them to realize they are just flat.out.wrong. Their unmitigated hatred for the POTUS has resulted in some of the most serious cases of delusional rejection of reality.

541 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 8:07:08am

THE MEME SURVIVES. Heh.

542 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 8:07:28am

re: #523 De Kolta Chair

BREAKING MEH — Chris Christie to announce his candidacy next Tuesday at his old high school.

Assuming that is the day after the SSM SCOTUS ruling, certainly he would have to incorporate that into his announcement?

Or, is Christie hoping to hide his announcement behind the headlines about SCOTUS rulings?

543 makeitstop  Jun 25, 2015 8:08:04am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

Too late.

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Benny sounds bitter. Then again, that seems to be his default setting.

544 makeitstop  Jun 25, 2015 8:08:47am

re: #450 freetoken

Agree. It gets some Republicans off the hot seat.

And of course, allows them to continue bitching about ACA.

545 Bubblehead II  Jun 25, 2015 8:09:46am
546 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 8:10:13am

Alternative headline: SCOTUS once again bitch-slaps conservatives.

548 Lidane  Jun 25, 2015 8:11:46am

Ignorant fuckwit says what?

549 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 8:12:42am

Charles Pierce hits it again:

Now to Abandon the Ideas Behind the Confederate Flag

[…]

For that, we have to go to our good friends at the Tenth Amendment Center, the central modern clearing house for all the notions about government that the banner of sedition always has represented. It is at the TAC where you discover the importance of nullification — historically, the necessary precursor drug of secession — to our history and our Constitutional order, the basic suspension vehicle through which Calhounism entered our political bloodstream. (Oddly enough, you won’t find much mention of old John C., but you will find an argument in the material that the true fathers of nullification were the northern abolitionists opposed to the Fugitive Slave Act.) It is important as you wander through the website to recall that most of the arguments there depend vitally on ignoring the Ninth, Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth amendments, the last three adopted because Tentherism run amok had led to the Civil War in which the Tenther side got its ass handed to it. Rick Perry, who suddenly is bothered by the flag of treason, is running for president specifically as a Tenther, to the point where it seems as though he’s running to succeed in office not Barack Obama, but Jefferson Davis. Nikki Haley, the governor of South Carolina who is now an American hero for proposing to lower the banner of sedition, is a regular at Tenther events, especially those involving South Carolina Tea Partiers and their firearms. Robert Bentley of Alabama, who also has decided that his state’s capitol could do without the symbol of the slaveholding society, is such a staunch Tenther that he has stood by the inalienable right of his constituents to sicken and die, and also the inalienable right of his constituents to be bigots. He even found Tenth Amendment grounds to fight off our old friend Agenda 21, the secret UN plan to steal all our golfs.

[…]

550 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 8:13:55am

re: #548 Lidane

You’d think that Republicans would use the SCOTUS rulings to run from the spotlight on their backwards neo-confederate love, but no, they want to keep putting their atavism on the front burner.

551 Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2015 8:15:29am
552 ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2015 8:15:53am

Damn jumper ads are back!

Good time to get to work, see you all laterz.

553 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 8:18:29am

In the comments section of The Brian Lehrer show on our local NPR station WNYC, Brian from Forest Hills writes:

Chief Roberts in the ACA decision today: “In a democracy, the power to make the law rests with those chosen by the people. Our role is more confined — ‘to say what the law is.’ Marbury v Madison, 1 Cranch 137, 177 (1803). That is easier in some cases than in others. But in every case we must respect the role of the Legislature, and take care not to undo what it has done. A fair reading of legislation demands a fair understanding of the legislative plan.”

Why did this not apply to the court’s interpretation of the Voting Rights Act?!

554 Kid A  Jun 25, 2015 8:19:06am

Right wing heads are exploding everywhere. It’s like Scanners, but so much more fun to watch.

555 Ace-o-aces  Jun 25, 2015 8:20:34am

…

556 bratwurst  Jun 25, 2015 8:21:25am
557 blueraven  Jun 25, 2015 8:25:37am

I am thrilled with the SCOTUS decision. My daughter signed up on the Federal exchange. Her job does not offer health insurance.

Without a subsidy, her premiums would not be affordable.
My son is still on our policy for now but in two years that will be over. He is self employed and will need to go through the Federal exchange.

My story is multiplied by millions. Big relief here today in the red state of TX.

558 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 8:26:10am

hahahahaaa

what a liar.

559 bubba zanetti  Jun 25, 2015 8:27:57am
560 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 25, 2015 8:30:11am

re: #465 darthstar

Scalia ain’t happy.

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Since Scalia et al. messed up the expansion of medicaid, yeah I would be willing to call it SCOTUScare.

561 Bubblehead II  Jun 25, 2015 8:33:00am

President about ready to issue his statement on SCOTUS ACA ruling

2 minute warning.

562 bratwurst  Jun 25, 2015 8:33:13am

How about a flashback to the last SCOTUS ACA decision?

Three years later and somehow America as we know it is still around. No exaggeration.

563 De Kolta Chair  Jun 25, 2015 8:33:25am

re: #559 bubba zanetti

Cool Smartman @BronzeHammer

kids with cancer don’t even want insurance now.

564 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 8:34:01am
565 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 8:37:26am

mohr presidential-hopeful butthurt:

566 Franklin  Jun 25, 2015 8:40:31am

Death Panels!!!!!!

567 Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2015 8:41:23am

RightWingWatch has a compilation of RWNJ butthurt:
rightwingwatch.org

568 Bubblehead II  Jun 25, 2015 8:41:49am

HE’S SPIKING THE FOOTBALL!!!!!! 11ty

569 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 25, 2015 8:41:52am

With the collapse of organized Confederate resistance, the ACA ruling is the RWNJs’ second major defeat in less than a week.
We should have no trouble rounding up the demoralized stragglers when Jade Helm kicks off in a couple of weeks.

570 Franklin  Jun 25, 2015 8:42:07am

I love it when President Obama says “Obamacare”. So meta.

571 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 8:43:19am

Biden still looks like he’s hurting.

572 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 8:44:07am

re: #569 Shiplord Kirel

With the collapse of organized Confederate resistance, the ACA ruling is the RWNJs’ second major defeat in less than a week.
We should have no trouble rounding up the demoralized stragglers when Jade Helm kicks off in a couple of weeks.

Might not work. Most of our gay stormtroopers will still be hung over from the rehearsal dinners.

573 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 8:44:32am

re: #569 Shiplord Kirel

With the collapse of organized Confederate resistance, the ACA ruling is the RWNJs’ second major defeat in less than a week.
We should have no trouble rounding up the demoralized stragglers when Jade Helm kicks off in a couple of weeks.

Yes - should the SCOTUS rule in favor of SSM in all 50 states, then the demoralization will be even deeper, making them even easier to round up, march them off to their regional FEMA camps and gay marry all their guns.

574 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 25, 2015 8:46:14am

re: #572 Decatur Deb

Might not work. Most of our gay stormtroopers will still be hung over from the rehearsal dinners.

Good point. Maybe we should alert the Mexican Muslims to move toward the border. They are closer to the theater of operations anyway.

575 blueraven  Jun 25, 2015 8:47:44am

LOL

576 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 8:49:57am

re: #574 Shiplord Kirel

Good point. Maybe we should alert the Mexican Muslims to move toward the border. They are closer to the theater of operations anyway.

Piece of cake, now that Arpaio’s swordsellers have come over.

577 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 8:50:13am

re: #567 Timothy Watson

The world has gone mad today And good’s bad today, And black’s white today, And day’s night today… Anything goes! t.co — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) June 25, 2015 -

This is almost worthy of framing.

578 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 8:52:25am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

And why must Obamacare be fought against, Jeb!? Remind me again, please.

579 allegro  Jun 25, 2015 8:53:00am

…

580 Bubblehead II  Jun 25, 2015 8:53:38am

In case you missed the presser (now paged)

581 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2015 8:56:29am
582 freetoken  Jun 25, 2015 8:56:34am

In unsolicited opinions…

Regarding the aesthetic of the new splash page design, the top bar gradient (from dark gray to light gray) I’m finding a bit out of place now with the light gray background of the entire page (which helps the individual key posts in white stand out better.)

I’m experimented and what caught my eyes was a subtle gradation between dark grayish greens, e.g., the parameters of #195a00,#195A28 .

lgf green top bar
583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 25, 2015 9:01:56am

I have to say. Today is already a good day. Wingnuts are crying, Obamacare was upheld again, so was the fair housing act and add to that I have a nice container of fresh yellowtail ceviche, yeah it’s actually and awesome day.

584 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:02:44am

Just a reminder that today’s SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare would not have ended Obamacare in any event, but it could have ended healthcare coverage for millions of Americans.

This is what wingnuts would have applauded today—not the end of Obamacare, which would have continued for many Americans—just the ending of subsidies for other Americans.

That would have been a “win” in wingnuttialand.

585 #FergusonFireside  Jun 25, 2015 9:02:45am

Jiggery Pokery is from Harry Potter!

586 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 9:03:03am

re: #583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I have to say. Today is already a good day. Wingnuts are crying, Obamacare was upheld again, so was the fair housing act and add to that I have a nice container of fresh yellowtail ceviche, yeah it’s actually and awesome day.

I quite agree. I only wish the SCOTUS had ruled in favor of SSM and released the decision today - the wingnut implosion would’ve been truly spectacular to behold.

587 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:03:21am

re: #583 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I have to say. Today is already a good day. Wingnuts are crying, Obamacare was upheld again, so was the fair housing act and add to that I have a nice container of fresh yellowtail ceviche, yeah it’s actually and awesome day.

But…but….but…GRUBER!!!!11

588 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 9:05:28am

There is a YOOGE PILE OF DERP in the Derpsplosion collection, but this is TEH MOAST DERP OF THE DAY==>

589 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 9:07:45am

re: #588 The Vicious Babushka

HITLERCARE!11!!

lolwhut?

590 Ace-o-aces  Jun 25, 2015 9:09:46am

re: #588 The Vicious Babushka

There is a YOOGE PILE OF DERP in the Derpsplosion collection, but this is TEH MOAST DERP OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Should we tell him Israel has universal healthcare, even for it’s Arab population? Nah, I don’t think his brain could retain such information.

591 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2015 9:10:44am

re: #590 Ace-o-aces

Should we tell him Israel has universal healthcare, even for it’s Arab population? Nah, I don’t think his brain could retain such information.

Even MOAR DELICIOUS: Israeli healthcare benefits include ABORSHUNS FOR EVERYONE!!!

Yes even for transgenders, should they need one.

592 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:11:15am

re: #588 The Vicious Babushka

There is a YOOGE PILE OF DERP in the Derpsplosion collection, but this is TEH MOAST DERP OF THE DAY==>

Not sure why mental institutions continue to allow patients access to the Internet.

593 Whack-A-Mole  Jun 25, 2015 9:17:05am

Maybe this is just a touch paranoid, but I’m actually worried about something bad happening if the USSC comes down with a decision legalizing SSM across the country. The long-overdue removal of the Traitor Flag, the ACA surviving another supposed death-blow, and gay marriage all coming as a rapid-fire string of defeats could be enough to push some of the crazies over the edge.

594 allegro  Jun 25, 2015 9:17:15am

I bet there’s a bunch of happy dancing in hospitals right now that are located in federal exchange states.

596 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 9:18:47am

re: #593 Whack-A-Mole

Maybe this is just a touch paranoid, but I’m actually worried about something bad happening if the USSC comes down with a decision legalizing SSM across the country. The long-overdue removal of the Traitor Flag, the ACA surviving another supposed death-blow, and gay marriage all coming as a rapid-fire string of defeats could be enough to push some of the crazies over the edge.

Yeah. They might shoot up a bible class or burn a church.

597 Ace-o-aces  Jun 25, 2015 9:19:36am
598 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:20:01am

re: #595 Great White Snark

Sweet Vindication

Wrong, wrong wrong again.

[Embedded image]

Prediction: The Supreme Court will strike down Obamacare’s Individual Mandate

CPAC Alert: Conservatives Predict SCOTUS Will Rule Against …

Greta: My prediction for how SCOTUS will rule on ObamaCare

Where’s Bagdad Bob?

599 Teukka  Jun 25, 2015 9:20:41am

re: #596 Decatur Deb

Yeah. They might shoot up a bible class or burn a church.

I wonder, would a wingnut (or wingnuts) head(s) exploding which extreme force count as an explosive? Also, would it be a hate crime or an accident? ///
*ducks*

600 Ace-o-aces  Jun 25, 2015 9:21:28am
601 Jayleia  Jun 25, 2015 9:22:51am

re: #596 Decatur Deb

I’m thinking the same thing, and I’m seriously considering that something on the scale of OKC to be well within the range of possibility for those fuckwits.

602 Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2015 9:22:58am

re: #593 Whack-A-Mole

Maybe this is just a touch paranoid, but I’m actually worried about something bad happening if the USSC comes down with a decision legalizing SSM across the country. The long-overdue removal of the Traitor Flag, the ACA surviving another supposed death-blow, and gay marriage all coming as a rapid-fire string of defeats could be enough to push some of the crazies over the edge.

I hate to say it as well, but i sort of agree with that assessment - it could all add up to some bad crazy; and let’s not forget, Jade Helm 15 starts next month, and the wingnuts are all over that.

There’s a part of me that says “Brace yourselves”.

603 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 9:24:00am

re: #599 Teukka

I wonder, would a wingnut (or wingnuts) head(s) exploding which extreme force count as an explosive? Also, would it be a hate crime or an accident? ///
*ducks*

If the pressure creates a transonic wave front of bones and blood, it would count. Probably be seen as a “misadventure’, though.

604 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 25, 2015 9:24:41am

re: #585 #FergusonFireside

Jiggery Pokery is from Harry Potter!

[Embedded content]

I’ve always used “jiggery-pokery”. I’ve been talking about the “Electoral College jiggery-pokery” that put Bush in the White House since 2000.

605 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jun 25, 2015 9:26:15am

re: #602 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say it as well, but i sort of agree with that assessment - it could all add up to some bad crazy; and let’s not forget, Jade Helm 15 starts next month, and the wingnuts are all over that.

There’s a part of me that says “Brace yourselves”.

We’ve been bracing ourselves for years now!

606 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:32:45am

From Roberts’ on the ACA ruling:

Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them.

emphasis mine

Hurr hurr, no, uh, wait, are you like saying that we want to destroy markets?

607 Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2015 9:34:03am

Off to do meatworld things. If there’s a circle of hell for schadenfruede, I must seek shrift.

608 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jun 25, 2015 9:35:55am

OK, which of you business establishments slipped me the BERMUDA mutherfokin quarter?

609 Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2015 9:50:01am

re: #586 Dr Lizardo

I quite agree. I only wish the SCOTUS had ruled in favor of SSM and released the decision today - the wingnut implosion would’ve been truly spectacular to behold.

You gotta work the body, work the body work the body, then to the head.


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