George Takei Apologizes for Calling Clarence Thomas a “Clown in Blackface” (But Not for Criticizing Him)

A classy statement
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As I wrote yesterday, I believe that although George Takei’s characterization of Clarence Thomas as a “clown in blackface” was poorly phrased, his criticism of Thomas’s statements that the pre-Civil War US government did not deprive slaves of their dignity was right on target.

The right wing media and blogs have been raising holy hell over Takei’s choice to use the word “blackface,” because this is how they see the issue of racism; as a matter of words, not intent. Whenever a liberal figure like Takei uses one of these words, right wingers stage a showy freak-out because they see a chance to turn the tables — not because they actually believe their target is a racist. And that’s exactly what they’ve been doing to George Takei for the past two days.

Just a few minutes ago on his Facebook page, Takei posted an eloquent statement about this nontroversy, explaining his intent and apologizing for his poor choice of words — but not for his substantive criticism of Thomas’s outrageously offensive remarks. Here it is in its entirety for the record:

On the eve of this Independence Day, I have a renewed sense of what this country stands for, and how I personally could help achieve it. The promise of equality and freedom is one that all of us have to work for, at all times. I know this as a survivor of the Japanese American internment, which each day drives me only to strive harder to help fulfill that promise for future generations.

I recently was asked by a reporter about Justice Clarence Thomas’s dissent in the marriage equality cases, in which he wrote words that really got under my skin, by suggesting that the government cannot take away human dignity through slavery, or though internment. In my mind that suggested that this meant he felt the government therefore shouldn’t be held accountable, or should do nothing in the face of gross violations of dignity. When asked by a reporter about the opinion, I was still seething, and I referred to him as a “clown in blackface” to suggest that he had abdicated and abandoned his heritage. This was not intended to be racist, but rather to evoke a history of racism in the theatrical arts. While I continue to vehemently disagree with Justice Thomas, the words I chose, said in the heat of anger, were not carefully considered.

I am reminded, especially on this July 4th holiday, that though we have the freedom to speak our minds, we must use that freedom judiciously. Each of us, as humans, have hot-button topics that can set-us off, and Justice Thomas had hit mine, that is clear. But my choice of words was regrettable, not because I do not believe Justice Thomas is deeply wrong, but because they were ad hominem and uncivil, and for that I am sorry.

I often ask fans to keep the level of discourse on this page and in comments high, and to remember that we all love this country and for what it stands for, even if we often disagree passionately about how to achieve those goals. I did not live up to my own high standards in this instance.

I hope all of you have a wonderful, safe and joyously free July 4th, the first where all married couples in the U.S. can enjoy the full liberties of matrimony equally. It is truly a blessing to be an American today.

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281 comments

1 Great White Snark  Jul 3, 2015 1:13:53pm

Always a classy kinda man. Well said sir.

2 prairiefire  Jul 3, 2015 1:15:03pm

Classy guy! The right could take some notes (looking at you, Trump).

3 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 3, 2015 1:15:16pm

I hope that I can hold myself to the standard he sets, both in hopefully being thoughtful always and in acknowledging my missteps when I make them.

4 Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2015 1:15:50pm
5 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 1:15:56pm

Yes, exactly.

The racial insults were questionable; the condemnation of Thomas over dignity was not.

6 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2015 1:16:43pm

A classy apology.

And something you’ll never - ever - see any wingnut make. The word ‘apology’ isn’t in their vernacular.

7 Teukka  Jul 3, 2015 1:17:49pm

re: #6 Dr Lizardo

A classy apology.

And something you’ll never - ever - see any wingnut make. The word ‘apology’ isn’t in their vernacular.

Nor are the three words “We”, “Were” and “Wrong.”

8 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 1:18:05pm

re: #6 Dr Lizardo

He apologized for using the words, instead of the usual right-wing apology for offending anyone.

9 Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2015 1:18:31pm
10 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 1:19:09pm

Well done Mr Takei.

11 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 1:19:33pm
12 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 1:21:22pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Justice Thomas probably will not apologize for his words.

13 Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2015 1:22:18pm
14 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2015 1:23:36pm

Reposted from down stairs:
I feel compelled to point out the significance of Shatner defending Takei and Takei thanking him for it. As far as I know, those two have not gotten along real well for a long time.

15 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 1:25:27pm

re: #14 Timothy Watson

Goes to show that Shatner is bigger than Thomas.

16 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 1:27:08pm
17 Drive By Commenter  Jul 3, 2015 1:31:44pm

George is a class act. Clarence is an act. George has dignity. Clarence read about it. And then defiled it.

18 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2015 1:34:10pm

I still don’t think George should have apologized given the way that the right wing takes everything said out of context. The word choice was not what I would have done, but the balance of his original statement was entirely on point.

And of course, I’m being called a racist for sticking up for George Takei’s right to SSM and calling out racists and bigots.

What a country!

19 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 1:35:59pm

Stay classy #tcot

20 Nyet  Jul 3, 2015 1:37:13pm

Does Thomas have dignity?

Not if we believe Anita Hill.

21 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 1:37:54pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Stay classy #tcot

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Why don’t we ask the African American community more about that?

22 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2015 1:38:18pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

As opposed to right wingers who actually fly the Confederate flag because of Southern heritage that includes insurrection and supporting slavery. You know - real racism (where racism is institutional and ingrained).

23 Nyet  Jul 3, 2015 1:38:25pm
According to Hill, during her two years of employment as Thomas’s assistant, Thomas had asked her out socially many times,[6] and after she refused, he used work situations to discuss sexual subjects.[4][6] “He spoke about…such matters as women having sex with animals and films showing group sex or rape scenes” she said, adding that on several occasions Thomas graphically described “his own sexual prowess” and the details of his anatomy.[4] Hill also recounted an instance in which Thomas examined a can of Coke on his desk and asked, “Who has put pubic hair on my Coke?”[4]
Four female witnesses waited in the wings to reportedly support Hill’s credibility, but they were not called,[12][13] due to what the Los Angeles Times described as a private, compromise deal between “aggressive, gloves-off” Republicans and the Senate Judiciary Committee Chair, Democrat Joe Biden.[14] According to Time magazine, one of the witnesses, Angela Wright, may not have been considered credible on the issue of sexual harassment because she had been fired from the EEOC by Thomas.[13]
24 EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2015 1:42:50pm

It’s worth noting that marriage equality is not really a done deal if a Republican is elected president in 2016. Whoever is elected president in 2016 is going to make several supreme court appointments, and anyone a Republican POTUS nominates is going to be a RWNJ hack like Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see such a supreme court overturn Obergefell.

Many other decisions would be targets at such a time, including Lawrence, Roe and Griswold. Brown would be the ultimate target, of course.

25 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 1:42:55pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Not a fucking snowball’s chance in Hell…

26 William Lewis  Jul 3, 2015 1:43:36pm

re: #14 Timothy Watson

Reposted from down stairs:
I feel compelled to point out the significance of Shatner defending Takei and Takei thanking him for it. As far as I know, those two have not gotten along real well for a long time.

Shatner, with help from Nimoy, has worked hard to mend fences. I believe he truly regrets the interpersonal mistakes he made over the years.

27 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 1:47:52pm

Takei makes a statement in a racist way and apologizes for the racism.

The problem for a lot of people is that their entire statement is about the racism. So they can’t apologize for the statement without withdrawing the statement.

28 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2015 1:57:16pm

Taxation is slavery. Welfare is slavery. Obamacare is slavery.

Where was this conversation about ‘inherent dignity’ when the US explicitly authorized ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ whose goal was to dehumanize and remove any ‘inherent dignity’ from the target?

But tell me more about how you suddenly believe in ‘inherent dignity.’

Fucking assholes.

29 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 2:00:15pm

re: #28 Mike Lamb

You said bad words!! *clutches pearls, faints*

30 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 2:02:07pm

re: #29 jaunte

I do not know which to grab first, the smelling salts or a container for the pearls. //

31 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 2:05:44pm

re: #27 Belafon

Takei makes a statement in a racist way and apologizes for the racism.

The problem for a lot of people is that their entire statement is about the racism. So they can’t apologize for the statement without withdrawing the statement.

People look at racism as a binary, either you are racist or are not.

That’s not how it works in real life. We all carry our baggage, and your are either more racist or less racist.

A single instance of inappropriate language is not enough; it’s a systematic, continued use that’s a problem—-and something some people can’t or won’t understand.

32 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 2:05:52pm

re: #30 PhillyPretzel

I do not know which to grab first, the smelling salts or a container for the pearls. //

A bottle of chloroform or ether to knock them out, then you grab the pearls.

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33 piratedan  Jul 3, 2015 2:06:04pm

gotta love the GOP, they’ll assault you by parsing the terms and removing the context and then just turn the inherent meaning of the conversation of concepts themselves. When did religious freedom come to mean that you will allow me to force my beliefs on thee and preclude anyone else to worship as they fit. When did worship itself enter the marketplace? When did slavery become dignified and calling out the asshole who said it and has implied it become the the one that needs to be apologized to?

It just doesn’t fucking matter with these guys, they never apologize, much less recognize when they’re wrong and gawd help you if they can parse you into any kind of faux outrage du juor. Hey, never mind that they just dumped a hundred thousand gallons of toxic shit into your local river, make sure that you observe the niceties when you complain or else you’ll be dismissed for bad form

34 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 2:06:41pm

Drive-by comment - 2016 presidential candidates spreadsheet updated to include Jim Webb (declared) & John Kasich (unlikely, but possible), notes on candidates’ current & past positions (wrt experience, not ideology), some columns deleted/rearranged: docs.google.com

35 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 2:08:06pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

The Democratic primary has a Socialist, two Democrats, a Dixicrat, and a Republican. Why would anyone need to pay attention to the Republicans except for laughs?

36 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 2:08:39pm
37 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 2:12:32pm

HURR HURR IT WAS TEH DEMOCRATS TAHT PUT JAPS IN CAMPS!!!!
Were there any Republicans who were opposed to it? I mean, I can name at least two who think it was a great idea & we should do it again!

38 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 2:12:37pm

re: #36 jaunte

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Thomas’ dissent is puzzling, anyway. If, as a human, you have dignity, should you not TREAT them with dignity?

39 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 2:13:57pm

re: #37 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR IT WAS TEH DEMOCRATS TAHT PUT JAPS IN CAMPS!!!!
Were there any Republicans who were opposed to it? I mean, I can name at least two who think it was a great idea & we should do it again!

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White people lecturing people of color on racism again. I didn’t see no Republicans helping Japanese Americans in WWII and I saw a lot of Republicans AGAINST apologizing to Japanese Americans.

40 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 2:15:20pm
41 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 2:16:31pm

Just discovered that google has a Georgi Sviridov Radio channel.

Grok it: play.google.com

42 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 2:16:34pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Stay classy #tcot

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Also, Takei’s was not a conditioned apology. Conditioned / conditional apologies are predicated on the trite “if I offended / to anyone I may have offended” language. Takei straight up says his choice of words was ill considered.

43 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 2:19:58pm

I missed this yesterday.

A Roswell police officer who claimed a fast food worker spit in his drink has now been arrested for making the whole thing up. Before his arrest the officer quit and turned in his patrol car and there were drugs and stolen items inside.

According to the criminal complaint investigators watched video from the restaurant and saw no evidence that the worker spit in Moreno’s drink. When confronted by a fellow officer police say Moreno admitted to spitting in his own drink because he didn’t like the sonic worker who he’d arrested for petty crimes in the past.

The complaint says that knowing he would be fired, Moreno resigned yesterday and turned in his equipment. Officers were surprised by what they found inside his patrol car.”More contraband was found in the trunk, which not only violates policy but possession of some of these constitute a criminal event as well,” said Chief Philip Smith, with Roswell Police.

Inside the trunk they found meth, drug pipes,a BB gun and a suspect’s driver’s license. It was all evidence he’d kept from cases.

[…]

Stupid ex-cop. They made the fast-food worker give a DNA sample, then they asked the suspect (officer) for one, and that’s when he gave up.

44 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 2:23:06pm

Granted, Thomas sometimes interprets symbols—such as burning crosses or Confederate flags—as offensive. But the actual, institutional bias those symbols promote escapes him. Thomas frequently infuses respectability politics into his rulings, which demonstrates his continued obliviousness to reality: It is not the responsibility of a vulnerable people to convince the powerful they are worth protecting. It is not the duty of the marginalized to prove they have dignity and therefore become worthy of being treated as equals; that task lies squarely across the shoulders of the rulers. And, in this regard, Thomas’s blindness shows. This is a person who, during the demonization of black people in the Reagan era, thought we were the main problem.

45 andres  Jul 3, 2015 2:23:26pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

I missed this yesterday.

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Stupid ex-cop. They made the fast-food worker give a DNA sample, then they asked the suspect (officer) for one, and that’s when he gave up.

Darwin Award candidate, I suppose.

46 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2015 2:25:32pm

re: #38 gwangung

Thomas’ dissent is puzzling, anyway. If, as a human, you have dignity, should you not TREAT them with dignity?

No. Apparently, ‘inherent dignity’ means the government can do whatever the fuck they want to any group of people.

47 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 2:26:37pm

re: #45 andres

Darwin Award candidate, I suppose.

I thought those candidates had to be dead, or at least wounded. If they only have to be too stupid to live, he’s a winner.

48 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 2:26:43pm

re: #44 jaunte

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Exactly. If dignity is innate, then it is the duty of the SLAVERS, the responsibility of the US GOVERNMENT, the duty of the SSM FOES to respect the dignity of the people they are opposing.

49 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 2:27:35pm
50 allegro  Jul 3, 2015 2:28:23pm

re: #45 andres

Darwin Award candidate, I suppose.

Demonstrated further by leaving contraband in his cop car. Duh.

51 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 2:28:47pm

re: #36 jaunte

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So since their “innate” human dignity can’t be taken away, then wingnuts should stop whining about their supposed persecution loss of freedoms, right? RIGHT?? Oh, I’m sorry—that’s different you say? How so, pray tell?

52 gwangung  Jul 3, 2015 2:30:38pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

So since their “innate” human dignity can’t be taken away, then wingnuts should stop whining about their supposed persecution loss of freedoms, right? RIGHT?? Oh, I’m sorry—that’s different you say? How so, pray tell?

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Huh. Another thought. Thomas equates slaverholders with the US Government oppressing Japanese Americans with SSM foes.

Not sure he really wanted to make SSM foes the equivalent to slavers.

53 Nyet  Jul 3, 2015 2:31:32pm

press-pubs.uchicago.edu

Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro’ the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.

~ Thomas Jefferson.

Tell me again why the Founding Fathers’ opinion should matter.

54 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 2:31:47pm

re: #52 gwangung

Good point, I hadn’t thought of that.

55 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 2:32:52pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

The only thing that prevented Thomas from saying that the victims of the Holocaust weren’t stripped of their dignity is the hold dominionist christianity has on a cynical GOP.

56 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 2:34:07pm

Good afternoon Lizards!

Truly gorgeous summer day in coastal Massachusetts. Early morning walk on the beach at Plum Island followed by a late morning hike on a local trail near Essex. Afternoon visit was to a location called Hammond Castle (see link), which was an extended drive since I got there and then discovered I’d left my wallet and money back at the inn. (D’oh!)

Plum Island visit included wild turkeys along the road (who gobbled on queue), egrets in the marsh, and seeing a plover walking the beach with two chicks. Large sections of beach off limits right now since the plovers and terns are nesting.

There are also turkeys in the field across the road from the inn. I have seen two there the last two afternoons while I sat on the porch and read a book. (If there was a power plug out there I’d have the computer out there right now.)

en.wikipedia.org

57 William Lewis  Jul 3, 2015 2:35:12pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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Ooh. Named for a Libertarian meme that is used to justify greed. Tells us all we need to know about that one.

58 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 2:38:09pm

re: #57 William Lewis

Ooh. Named for a Libertarian meme that is used to justify greed. Tells us all we need to know about that one.

And it’s really a meme about developing an understanding about real costs and infrastructure. What are the actual costs of what you are getting? And who or what is paying them?

59 William Lewis  Jul 3, 2015 2:41:59pm

re: #58 Feline Fearless Leader

And it’s really a meme about developing an understanding about real costs and infrastructure. What are the actual costs of what you are getting? And who or what is paying them?

Well, now you’re talking about how Heinlein used it in “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” which is different from how most libertarians (at least in my experience) use it.

60 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 2:47:22pm

re: #59 William Lewis

Well, now you’re talking about how Heinlein used it in “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” which is different from how most libertarians (at least in my experience) use it.

Which is the difference between reading and understanding the source and simply adopting some meme to mean what you want it to mean. The latter is the Humpty Dumpty Philosophy and it is simply looking for justification, not communication.

61 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 2:47:43pm

Evening Lizardim from the beautiful warm wild north country. Just returned from cruising in the land boat; a great way to relax, unwind, and enjoy the fantastic summer day. How go things among the lizardfolk on this hot, humid, ever-so-slightly cloudy 3rd of July?

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 2:49:36pm

re: #61 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the beautiful warm wild north country. Just returned from cruising in the land boat; a great way to relax, unwind, and enjoy the fantastic summer day. How go things among the lizardfolk on this hot, humid, ever-so-slightly cloudy 3rd of July?

I’m walking beaches and enjoying New England cuisine.

63 Jay C  Jul 3, 2015 2:50:36pm

re: #15 PhillyPretzel

Goes to show that Shatner is bigger than Thomas.

Low bar to hurdle, there….

64 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 2:51:34pm

re: #63 Jay C

Low bar to hurdle, there….

I thought low bars were for limbo-ing.

65 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 2:51:44pm
66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2015 2:53:36pm

re: #58 Feline Fearless Leader

And it’s really a meme about developing an understanding about real costs and infrastructure. What are the actual costs of what you are getting? And who or what is paying them?

TMIAHM is my go-to reference when RWNJs start bleating about “redefining marriage”. SSM doesn’t “redefine” a goddamn thing—all it does is increase the pool of eligibility by a couple of percent. Now if we were talking about legalizing something like Heinlein’s “line marriage”, that would be a redefinition, and would require completely different laws. I’m not against it, by any means, but I really don’t know how it would work, legally. SSM is literally nothing.

67 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 2:54:03pm

Oh - a thanks to the Lizard who put out the link to the Lego set featuring Sylvia Earle and such. It has been ordered as a birthday present for my niece.
:)

It also looks like the pictures of the cuttlefish from the aquarium in Boston came out, so I have other things to send to her as well.

68 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 2:55:28pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

His view of college is obviously different than what I remember.

69 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 2:55:50pm
70 EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2015 2:56:22pm

On a slightly different topic, I’ve finally put my finger on what really bothers me about Roberts’ dissent in Obergefell.

Roberts argued that the majority opinion had no logical derivation from the constitution itself, and was merely the personal views of a majority of SCOTUS.

I think the best counter-argument to this is a big, fat ‘So What!’

This is basically in the job description for SCOTUS justices, and is not at all unusual, even for other landmark cases. Unlike anyone else in the US legal system, a SCOTUS majority really does get to have their interpretation of the constitution carry the force of law.

So Roberts is disingenuously pretending that Obergefell is somehow not business as usual at SCOTUS because he dislikes the result. The voting rights act case and Citizens United were hardly results compelled by the bare text of the constitution.

For that matter, neither was the result in Brown v. Board of Education. Plessy (overruled in Brown) set forth ‘separate but equal’ as a way to comply with constitutional requirements, and from only the bare text of the constitution there would be no way to arrive at the conclusion that Plessy had to be overturned. This demonstrates, once again, the total uselessness of the original intent analysis conservative jurists use to pretend that they follow the constitution while liberal jurists do not.

71 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 2:56:24pm

re: #62 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m walking beaches and enjoying New England cuisine.

Do you like piña coladas and getting caught in the rain?

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72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2015 2:57:45pm

America Ferrara, aside from being a babe, is a kick-ass babe:

Thank You, Donald Trump!

73 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 2:58:35pm
74 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 2:58:45pm

Fuck you Ben.

75 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 2:58:49pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

Heh. I just saw this go by on my Facebook feed, too.

76 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 3:00:20pm

FORCING OTHERS TO PAY YOU
Yeah Ben, because it’s against the law to make people work for you and not pay them.

77 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 3:00:45pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

From Shapiro Shithead:

I’m okay with this so long as we agree that if you don’t work 40 hrs per week you deserve to live in poverty.

What the actual living fuck is this. Why should anyone DESERVE to live in poverty. There are people who make poor choices, yes, but should anyone who is making an honest effort at life really DESERVE to live in poverty? No, that’s just your bullshit excuse for “I want to be a rich elite and nobody else should be.”

78 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 3:01:13pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

America Ferrara, aside from being a babe, is a kick-ass babe.:

The fact that her first name is “America” sure as hell doesn’t hurt either.

79 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 3:01:44pm

re: #66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

TMIAHM is my go-to reference when RWNJs start bleating about “redefining marriage”. SSM doesn’t “redefine” a goddamn thing—all it does is increase the pool of eligibility by a couple of percent. Now if we were talking about legalizing something like Heinlein’s “line marriage”, that would be a redefinition, and would require completely different laws. I’m not against it, by any means, but I really don’t know how it would work, legally. SSM is literally nothing.

Heinlein’s line marriage was a much more serious contract than that of a marriage license. Essentially it was an incorporation agreement with the members controlling addition/removal from membership in the corporation. And it was essentially defining a family lineage by consenting adults making agreement and not heredity defining the heirs.

80 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 3:01:52pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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Should we decorate under the bed for the two cats?

81 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 3:02:54pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

What the actual living fuck is this. Why should anyone DESERVE to live in poverty. There are people who make poor choices, yes, but should anyone who is making an honest effort at life really DESERVE to live in poverty? No, that’s just your bullshit excuse for “I want to be a rich elite and nobody else should be.”

The people who look down on minimum wage workers like they’re some kind of untermensch are the fucking worst.

82 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 3:03:22pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

Should we decorate under the bed for the two cats?

Extra cardboard boxes, sound deadening, a litter box, a water bowl, and some catnip?

83 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 3:03:55pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

84 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 3:05:12pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s the thing: These people react like we’re suggesting we pay them a million dollars a year. Nobody is suggesting anything like that, Mr. Shapiro. What we are suggesting is that you treat them like people and not like slaves, because that’s all they are right now. “Indentured servitude” is still servitude, dumbass.

85 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 3:05:15pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

The people who look down on minimum wage workers like they’re some kind of untermensch are the fucking worst.

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Herrenvolk. Otherwise they would have to admit how pathetic their own lives have been. And how they have allowed themselves to be manipulated towards hate and exploitation by their “leaders”.

86 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 3:07:22pm

re: #84 thedopefishlives

Here’s the thing: These people react like we’re suggesting we pay them a million dollars a year. Nobody is suggesting anything like that, Mr. Shapiro. What we are suggesting is that you treat them like people and not like slaves, because that’s all they are right now. “Indentured servitude” is still servitude, dumbass.

Paying people for the hours they work, instead of expecting them to work for free, that should be a no brainer.

87 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 3:07:39pm

I GOT DOUBLE OVERTIME TODAY!

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 3:08:19pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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Veterans ask for the same consideration.

Seriously, they do.

89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2015 3:11:19pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

The people who look down on minimum wage workers like they’re some kind of untermensch are the fucking worst.

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Conservatives like to talk about “the dignity of work”, but when it comes to work as a source of human dignity vs. labor as a commodity to be bought and sold at the cheapest possible price, then the latter wins hands down.

And how can labor impart dignity if it too poorly paid to allow a breadwinner to feed and educate a family and give them a chance at a better life

90 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 3:12:26pm

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

*yawn*

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

91 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2015 3:12:26pm

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Conservatives like to talk about “the dignity of work”, but when it comes to work as a source of human dignity and labor as a commodity to be bought and sold at the cheapest possible price, then the latter wins hands down.

And how can labor impart dignity if it too poorly paid to allow a breadwinner to feed and educate a family and give them a chance at a better life

Remember folks, the government can’t take the dignity from you, but the only way you can get dignity is from working!!1!

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92 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 3:13:26pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

It seems like his abolishment from Twitter has not only unhinged him, but also removed him from relevancy. Score one for the evil conspiracy!

93 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 3:16:43pm

re: #82 Feline Fearless Leader

Extra cardboard boxes, sound deadening, a litter box, a water bowl, and some catnip?

It shall be done.

94 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 3:18:48pm

It IS green cheese!

95 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 3:19:54pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

Eh, I’d just fucking ignore him, because, at this point, he’s got to be craving any attention at all; he’s pretty much been marginalized at this point, thanks, in large part, to you.

Let ‘em rot…

96 Snarknado!  Jul 3, 2015 3:21:32pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Why bother? It was gibberish, as far as I could see (didn’t waste much time on it).

97 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 3:23:50pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

Why bother? It was gibberish, as far as I could see (didn’t waste much time on it).

Been hitting the bathtub gin hard, has he?

98 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 3:23:50pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

Why bother? It was gibberish, as far as I could see (didn’t waste much time on it).

Does he write anything else?

99 EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2015 3:26:54pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

It may be time to turn down the attention level on CCJ. He now seems headed to obscurity, and it would be a shame if LGF ended up hindering that desirable outcome.

100 retired cynic  Jul 3, 2015 3:28:09pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

Declare victory and retire, unless the situation changes and he starts getting a lot of attention again.

101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2015 3:28:21pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

It IS green cheese!

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I’m still mad at them for forgoing the close-up photography of Io on the way in, in favor of monitoring the atmospheric probe, which entered a totally atypical part of Jupiter anyway.

102 Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2015 3:31:08pm
103 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 3:32:25pm

re: #44 jaunte

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From one of the links embedded there:

The chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says that black leaders are “watching the destruction of our race” as they “bitch, bitch, bitch” about President Reagan but fail to work with the administration to solve problems.

Clarence Thomas said in an interview that, in his 3 1/2 years on the job, no major black leader has sought his help in influencing the Reagan administration.

Black spokesmen should be working with the administration to solve such problems as teen-age pregnancy, unemployment or illiteracy instead of working against Reagan, Thomas said.

“These guys are sitting there watching the destruction of our race while arguing about Ronald Reagan,” Thomas said. “Ronald Reagan isn’t the problem. Former president Jimmy Carter was not the problem. The lack of black leadership is the problem.”

Thomas, who agrees with Reagan’s opposition to busing and quotas, said black leaders have allowed blacks to lose access to the presidency and become the only group overwhelmingly opposed to a “popular president.”

[…]

It goes on like that, and maybe worse.

I wonder whether he would like to be buried next to Reagan?

104 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 3:34:14pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

From one of the links embedded there:

It goes on like that, and maybe worse.

I wonder whether he would like to be buried next to Reagan?

Probably on top of St. Ronnie of Raygun.

In the 69 position.

105 Snarknado!  Jul 3, 2015 3:35:34pm

re: #104 TedStriker

Probably on top of St. Ronnie of Raygun.

In the 69 position.

Pass the brain bleach, please.

106 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 3:39:55pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Paying people for the hours they work, instead of expecting them to work for free, that should be a no brainer.

Getting someone’s work for free is a remarkably persistent idea.
I had a client this past week email saying that they couldn’t afford a custom illustration for their project, but maybe we could use a stock illustration “but then redraw it.” They didn’t understand that someone would have to work hours drawing a new illustration.

107 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 3:41:39pm

re: #105 Snarknado!

::: brain bleach :::

Here you are.

108 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 3:49:35pm
109 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 3:50:56pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

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And the LORD rained down fire from heaven upon the creatures of the sea, saying, “Fuck that sushi noise, bitches. Now who’s hungry for a crispy filet?”

110 Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2015 3:55:58pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Dear lord, Chuck’s latest is a load of incoherant, racist word salad.

111 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2015 3:57:27pm

re: #110 Ace-o-aces

Dear lord, Chuck’s latest is a load of incoherant, racist word salad.

I could use a good laugh, but fuck me if I’m going to his site….

112 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 3:59:09pm

re: #111 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I could use a good laugh, but fuck me if I’m going to his site….

Someone wanna post a Google cache/DoNotLink?

113 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 4:03:25pm

re: #102 Ace-o-aces

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That dude is gay by the way. Part of the elite cadre of young gay conservative weirdos that think they don’t deserve to have legal equality until the majority deigns to approve it via popular vote.

114 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 4:04:45pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

That dude is gay by the way. Part of the elite cadre of young gay conservative weirdos that think they don’t deserve to have legal equality until the majority deigns to approve it via popular vote.

So he’s one of them self-hatin’ gays.

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 4:05:32pm
116 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 4:06:42pm

re: #114 thedopefishlives

So he’s one of them self-hatin’ gays.

A clown in gay-face as it were.

What?

117 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2015 4:08:36pm

Drats, out of ER episodes from iTunes and the Internet at my home (satellite) sucks. :/

118 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2015 4:16:20pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

CCJ has written nothing more than a stream of consciousness posting-and it’s pretty bad.

119 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 4:16:44pm
120 KiTA  Jul 3, 2015 4:20:41pm

More Chairman Pao’s tricks at Reddit:

A former employee came forward talking about how he was fired for having leukemia and talked about how working there was. He did so in an AMA (community interview) format.
archive.is

He was purged by the admins within a few hours.
reddit.com

The glorious people’s Reddit shall not tolerate dissent against dear leader Chairman Pao.

121 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:21:05pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

Please let CCJ fester in his own juices and not give him any exposure until he takes over the social media operations for the Trump2016 campaign

122 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:23:07pm

Road side turkeys from this morning. Apologies for quality since it’s an iPhone and not at a good light angle.

Lens flare turkey
With two you get eggroll
123 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:27:04pm

re: #122 Feline Fearless Leader

Road side turkeys from this morning. Apologies for quality since it’s an iPhone and not at a good light angle.

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With two you get eggroll.

This is a Chinese Turkey

Turkeys in the wild are really cool to see and a sign of sane hunting laws, regulation and conservation. I never saw any growing up;

In 1973, the total U.S. population was estimated to be 1.3 million, and current estimates place the entire wild turkey population at 7 million individuals.

en.wikipedia.org

124 Amory Blaine  Jul 3, 2015 4:27:58pm

Star Trek is a socialist utopia. RWNJ should stick to Galt’s Gulch.

125 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 4:28:21pm

re: #123 b.d.

Turkeys in the wild are really cool to see and a sign of sane hunting laws, regulation and conservation. I never saw any growing up;

en.wikipedia.org

They’re all over up here. I have a picture from a couple of months back of a flock standing on the side of the road, in the middle of a lakeside neighborhood. Mrs. Fish and I always joke about clipping one of the fat bastards and bringing it home for dinner.

126 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 4:28:32pm

While Americans debated whether the Confederate flag belongs atop a statehouse or in a museum last week, I pondered another controversial symbol.

In El Paso, Texas, I drove past a massive statue of Spanish conquistador Don Juan de Oñate atop his horse. Oñate greets airport visitors holding the 1598 document proclaiming that Spain was taking possession of this region.

Two outside cultures conquered our area - first the Spanish, later the Americans. Both committed unconscionable atrocities against Native Americans, who are still feeling the effects.

For example, the Navajo Nation’s poverty rate, 43 percent, dwarfs New Mexico’s rate of 20.4 percent. New Mexico’s Native youth die by suicide at a rate at least twice as high as others. Native people nationwide are more likely to be killed by police than others, including blacks.

[…]

RTWT

127 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:29:25pm

re: #125 thedopefishlives

en.wikipedia.org

They’re all over up here. I have a picture from a couple of months back of a flock standing on the side of the road, in the middle of a lakeside neighborhood. Mrs. Fish and I always joke about clipping one of the fat bastards and bringing it home for dinner.

I’ve had wild turkey as part of a meal twice. It’s like a totally different meat than the butterball domestic monsters. Something called flavor involved.

128 danarchy  Jul 3, 2015 4:30:23pm

re: #123 b.d.

With two you get eggroll.

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Turkeys in the wild are really cool to see and a sign of sane hunting laws, regulation and conservation. I never saw any growing up;

en.wikipedia.org

They are all over the place in Massachusetts and they have no respect for traffic laws ;) Personally I think we have over corrected a bit with turkeys, deer, and coyotes.

129 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:32:09pm
Diminishing supply of steamers

My brother and I are working on reducing Massachusetts supply of these as well.

130 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 4:32:11pm

re: #127 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve had wild turkey as part of a meal twice. It’s like a totally different meat than the butterball domestic monsters. Something called flavor involved.

I can imagine one of those, smoked, would be an absolute delight.

131 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 4:32:45pm
132 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:32:50pm

re: #128 danarchy

en.wikipedia.org

They are all over the place in Massachusetts and they have no respect for traffic laws ;) Personally I think we have over corrected a bit with turkeys, deer, and coyotes.

Big time with deer here in Texas. Deer hunting leases have gotten so expensive here that the youth are priced out and I swear that the deer and dove have figured out that hanging out in neighborhoods leads to a longer and healthier life

133 allegro  Jul 3, 2015 4:33:26pm

re: #130 thedopefishlives

I can imagine one of those, smoked, would be an absolute delight.

Really big Zig-Zags.

134 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:33:36pm

re: #130 thedopefishlives

I can imagine one of those, smoked, would be an absolute delight.

My brother was given one and cooked it with a roasted chestnut stuffing. The turkey itself had a nutty flavor as well since it apparently had been eating acorns.

135 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 4:34:27pm

re: #122 Feline Fearless Leader

Road side turkeys from this morning. Apologies for quality since it’s an iPhone and not at a good light angle.

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Turkeys in one of my fields in winter:

136 rhuarc  Jul 3, 2015 4:39:18pm

I’m sure it’s been mentioned, but George actually apologized for his words. Completely unlike the mealy mouthed apologies most Republicans give with their truly bigoted and/or racist words. Their apologies are always “I’m sorry someone was offended.”

137 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 4:40:13pm
138 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 4:40:25pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wild turkeys in Philly hmm … I have not seen them. Now Canadian Geese is a different story. There are lots of those here in Philly.

139 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:40:36pm

So the republicans can demand apologies from someone, I was wondering about that because of their silence on Trump.

140 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 4:41:52pm

re: #139 b.d.

In a recent interview on Fox News, conservative firebrand Ted Cruz insisted that Trump should not apologize.

“I like Donald Trump,” said Cruz, a Texas senator who is Hispanic. “I think he’s terrific. I think he’s brash. I think he speaks the truth. And I think that NBC is engaging in political correctness that is silly and that is wrong.”
globalnews.ca

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 4:41:52pm

heh:

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:42:19pm

re: #138 PhillyPretzel

Wild turkeys in Philly hmm … I have not seen them. Now Canadian Geese is a different story. There are lots of those here in Philly.

Wild turkeys in Pittsburgh are not that uncommon. Live above the Squirrel Hill Tunnel, in Schenley Park, and also seen along the Allegheny River bluff near the train station all the time too.

143 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 4:44:31pm

re: #142 Feline Fearless Leader

Yes. My brother-in-law has seen wild turkeys not too far from his house in Ft Washington. He also has deer running through the backyard.

144 HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2015 4:46:32pm

re: #140 jaunte

Wonder how Ted would feel if Trump made the same remarks about Cubans. Hypocritical douche.

145 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:49:24pm

re: #140 jaunte

It is mathematically impossible for anyone to get to the White House without a chuck of the Latin vote, surely someone in that party knows this?

146 sagehen  Jul 3, 2015 4:54:28pm

re: #145 b.d.

It is mathematically impossible for anyone to get to the White House without a chuck of the Latin vote, surely someone in that party knows this?

Bush had 40% of the hispanic vote; nobody in this crowd is going to get that many. Plus they’re a much larger share than they were 10 years ago.

147 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 4:55:12pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh:

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Do what you have done to everyone else who has kicked you to the curb and please say something bad about NASCAR Donald, please, please, please, please.

148 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 4:55:21pm

re: #146 sagehen

Bush had 40% of the hispanic vote; nobody in this crowd is going to get that many. Plus they’re a much larger share than they were 10 years ago.

My presumption is that the planning is about how to suppress their vote rather than attract it at this point.

149 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2015 4:55:43pm

re: #146 sagehen

Bush had 40% of the hispanic vote; nobody in this crowd is going to get that many. Plus they’re a much larger share than they were 10 years ago.

And at least half of them are women.

150 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 4:58:57pm

re: #148 Feline Fearless Leader

My presumption is that the planning is about how to suppress their vote rather than attract it at this point.

Because this is how they operate. They don’t try to win votes, they just try to stop people that don’t like them from voting.

151 BeachDem  Jul 3, 2015 4:59:09pm

Well, that’s many minutes of my life I’ll never get back—just read upchuck’s diatribe.

Jeez—with all the time he had to write it, you’d think he’d at least have done some cursory proofreading (at one point he calls Roof by the name Flood among other idiotic mistakes.) Once again, not only moronic, but so poorly written that the one and only comment, “yawn” seems to say it all.

I vote for ignoring it, Charles. It is definitely not worth your time or effort, and does not deserve any kind of recognition at all.

152 sagehen  Jul 3, 2015 4:59:43pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

And at least half of them are women.

Also, most of them are Catholic. The fact that this pope is talking climate change and income inequality, putting less emphasis on gay marriage or abortion…

153 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:02:26pm

re: #152 sagehen

Also, most of them are Catholic. The fact that this pope is talking climate change and income inequality, putting less emphasis on gay marriage or abortion…

I haven’t thought about the implications of the utter insulting contempt for the 1st Latin American Pope that the GOP has shown as a factor

154 Lidane  Jul 3, 2015 5:06:18pm

re: #146 sagehen

Bush had 40% of the hispanic vote; nobody in this crowd is going to get that many. Plus they’re a much larger share than they were 10 years ago.

I went back and looked at the exit polling over at the NYT. The percentage of Latinos voting Republican over the last 30+ years is:

1980: 35%
1984: 37%
1988: 30%
1992: 25%
1996: 21%
2000: 35%
2004: 43%
2008: 31%
2012: 27%

Latinos are a much larger percentage of the voter population now than they were when Reagan ran in 1980. They’re clearly not buying into the GOP as much now as they were 10 years ago, either. Plus the teabagger DEY TOOK ARE JRRBZ garbage, the racist garbage hurled at POTUS daily, the absolute contempt the GOP has shown the Pope, and the way Republicans treat Latino immigrants who aren’t from Cuba will not help them in 2016.

155 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2015 5:09:01pm

re: #154 Lidane

I went back and looked at the exit polling over at the NYT. The percentage of Latinos voting Republican over the last 30+ years is:

1980: 35%
1984: 37%
1988: 30%
1992: 25%
1996: 21%
2000: 35%
2004: 43%
2008: 31%
2012: 27%

Latinos are a much larger percentage of the voter population now than they were when Reagan ran in 1980. They’re clearly not buying into the GOP as much now as they were 10 years ago. Plus the teabagger DEY TOOK ARE JRRBZ garbage, the absolute contempt the GOP has shown the Pope, and the way Republicans treat Latino immigrants who aren’t from Cuba will not help them in 2016.

I guess the secondary question is what swing or marginal states are they a sizable fraction of? I don’t think they can turn Texas purple yet, and in a state like California or New York the GOP will discount them since they don’t have realistic plans of winning those states at this time.

156 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:13:13pm

re: #155 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess the secondary question is what swing or marginal states are they a sizable fraction of? I don’t think they can turn Texas purple yet, and in a state like California or New York the GOP will discount them since they don’t have realistic plans of winning those states at this time.

The biggie:

Latinos (or Hispanics) make up almost a quarter of Florida’s population and 15 percent of its registered voters. But Cuban-Americans are less than 30 percent of the state’s Latino cohort. Groups like Puerto Ricans and South Americans are surging - and voting mostly Democratic, evidenced by the fact that they helped President Obama win Florida in 2012.

wlrn.org

Bush and Rubio know this and are less insane than the people they are running against.

157 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:15:32pm

Hey Y’all. My sister in law said let’s go shopping. So I went. Ugh, so hot and crowded. But got all my supplies.

Tonight’s dinner is a beautiful baguette with cheese. I got a chunk of Humboldt Fog & another of Pt. Reyes Blue.

USA, er CALIFORNIA baby.

…oh and a slice of delectable looking death by chocolate cake

happy me.

158 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:18:22pm

re: #157 #FergusonFireside

I don’t know if you can get Cowgirl Creamery cheese wherever you are-but their Mt. Tam triple cream is To. Die. For. Fortunately it is expensive enough not to be an everyday thing.

159 prairiefire  Jul 3, 2015 5:18:37pm

re: #157 #FergusonFireside

Getting ready to board a plane back to KC from Oakland. Thanks, Cali, it’s been swell!

160 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:19:21pm

Looks like hyper Christian professional e-marketing scam artist Daniel St. Pierre (@cybergenica) decided to resurrect his sockpuppet e-marketing author account @julecarpentier.

161 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 5:19:24pm

re: #159 prairiefire

Getting ready to board a plane back to KC from Oakland. Thanks, Cali, it’s been swell!

Safe travels!

162 Lidane  Jul 3, 2015 5:24:24pm

The Most Punchable Man in the Senate continues flapping his pie hole:

163 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:25:36pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

WTF? If she is supposed to be Christian, shouldn’t she be working on not being “a grave failure to god” instead of just continuing on? How is this supposed to be marketing for anything?

164 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:25:45pm

re: #158 calochortus

I don’t know if you can get Cowgirl Creamery cheese wherever you are-but their Mt. Tam triple cream is To. Die. For. Fortunately it is expensive enough not to be an everyday thing.

,
What I bought wasn’t cheap, but no, they didn’t have Cowgirl. I’ve had it and yes, it is worth it.

Bet they ship!

165 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 5:25:58pm

re: #162 Lidane

I could not agree more.

166 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:26:20pm

re: #159 prairiefire

Getting ready to board a plane back to KC from Oakland. Thanks, Cali, it’s been swell!

Hope you had fun! We’ll miss you terribly.

167 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:26:34pm

Excuse me while I go throw up a little.

Gosnell, a movie about an infamous abortion doctor convicted of murder that is being financed via a crowdfunding campaign, has hired, as its director, Nick Searcy.

168 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:26:52pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

Looks like hyper Christian professional e-marketing scam artist Daniel St. Pierre (@cybergenica) decided to resurrect his sockpuppet e-marketing author account @julecarpentier.

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He’s seeing the loss of income. What a shitshow.

169 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:29:17pm

re: #163 calochortus

WTF? If she is supposed to be Christian, shouldn’t she be working on not being “a grave failure to god” instead of just continuing on? How is this supposed to be marketing for anything?

“She” doesn’t exist. Dan created her and set her up as the pretend author of some bullshit e-book that he’s trying to sell. He didn’t write the book either, it’s like Amway for self-help scam artists. Several different low rent e-marketing assholes sell the same product on different sites.

170 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:30:27pm

re: #164 #FergusonFireside

,
What I bought wasn’t cheap, but no, they didn’t have Cowgirl. I’ve had it and yes, it is worth it.

Bet they ship!

Why yes, yes they do ship. :)

171 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:32:27pm

re: #163 calochortus

How is this supposed to be marketing for anything?

It’s the “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” school of thought. Dan thought he could insulate himself from any blowback by pretending Carpentier was somebody else. The fake identity also allowed him to pretend to come across and write a “review” of the book on his own blog, and then linked to a different site where readers could buy it. Only he doesn’t mention on the blog review that the link just goes to a page on another website that he owns.

It’s scams all the way down.

172 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:32:35pm

re: #170 calochortus

Why yes, yes they do ship. :)

Back in the day when I was rich, we would order seafood from the Florida Keys and have it shipped overnight.

Amazing.

173 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:33:01pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

“She” doesn’t exist. Dan created her and set her up as the pretend author of some bullshit e-book that he’s trying to sell. He didn’t write the book either, it’s like Amway for self-help scam artists. Several different low rent e-marketing assholes sell the same product on different sites.

I know she doesn’t actually exist-what I don’t get is how this is marketing for anything. Jerkiness, hypocrisy, and poor spelling/grammar-it doesn’t seem like an attractive mix.

174 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:33:52pm

re: #173 calochortus

I know she doesn’t actually exist-what I don’t get is how this is marketing for anything. Jerkiness, hypocrisy, and poor spelling/grammar-it doesn’t seem like an attractive mix.

There is a huge market in racists.

175 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 5:35:01pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

Excuse me while I go throw up a little.

That should cement his career in the RW freak corner.

176 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 5:36:08pm
177 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:36:22pm

re: #174 #FergusonFireside

There is a huge market in racists.

Depressing, but probably true.

178 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 5:36:46pm

re: #172 #FergusonFireside

Back in the day when I was rich, we would order seafood from the Florida Keys and have it shipped overnight.

Amazing.

It wasn’t THAT much, but it was an extravagance.

And worth it. OMG. CA fish is the exact opposite of Florida.

179 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:38:49pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Could Ed O’Neill tell that guy to quit using his picture as his avatar?

180 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 5:38:53pm
181 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:39:47pm

re: #173 calochortus

I know she doesn’t actually exist-what I don’t get is how this is marketing for anything. Jerkiness, hypocrisy, and poor spelling/grammar-it doesn’t seem like an attractive mix.

People are often very stupid.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

-George Carlin

It’s a very cynical and I’ll admit counter intuitive approach to selling a product. But you have to realize that Dan is a completely deranged racist religious fanatic and abusive asshole. Part of his track record has been to approach small businesses with a bid to do SEO work, then when the business owner politely refuses to hire him he makes a video of himself giving a negative review of the company and uploads it to Youtube, effectively trashing them. It’s basically blackmail without the explicit upfront threat.

182 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2015 5:39:53pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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That should be on a coat of arms or monument here in the United States.

183 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:39:59pm

Hmm, must be a slow news day-the NBC evening news just had a report on the Baltimore police van that had “Enjoy your ride cuz we sure will” on the inside.
Apparently the police management was totally unaware and will investigate. Sigh.

184 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:40:21pm

re: #178 #FergusonFireside

It wasn’t THAT much, but it was an extravagance.

And worth it. OMG. CA fish is the exact opposite of Florida.

What constitutes “opposite” in a fish?

185 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:41:26pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

People are often very stupid.

It’s a very cynical and I’ll admit counter intuitive approach to selling a product. But you have to realize that Dan is a completely deranged racist religious fanatic and abusive asshole. Part of his track record has been to approach small businesses with a bid to do SEO work, then when the business owner politely refuses to hire him he makes a video of himself giving a negative review of the company and uploads it to Youtube, effectively trashing them. It’s basically blackmail without the explicit upfront threat.

Charming. I wonder what the basic tenets of his religion are?

186 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 5:41:36pm

re: #184 calochortus

What constitutes “opposite” in a fish?

They swim through the air?

187 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:41:39pm

re: #179 b.d.

Could Ed O’Neill tell that guy to quit using his picture as his avatar?

I can see why he uses it though
188 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 5:42:19pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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I don’t eat bacon but sometimes I am just like dayum

189 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:42:38pm

re: #186 thedopefishlives

They swim through the air?

So, Florida is so humid fish can do that? I do recall it being unpleasantly moist when I was there.

190 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:43:14pm

re: #187 b.d.

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Yep, I’d stick with the Al Bundy avatar too
191 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jul 3, 2015 5:43:25pm

O’Malley is adopting a rather strange campaign strategy:

192 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 5:43:28pm
193 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 5:44:19pm

re: #187 b.d.

He looks more like Chris Elliott.

194 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:45:20pm

re: #185 calochortus

I wonder what the basic tenets of his religion are?

1.) Jive talk.
2.) ???
3.) Prophet!

195 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 5:45:47pm
196 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2015 5:46:33pm

And I’m outta here. ENJOY THE 4TH!!

197 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:47:46pm

re: #193 jaunte

He looks more like Chris Elliott.

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198 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2015 5:49:11pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

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I don’t whether to laugh until I pass out or to just shake my head in disbelief. If there’s anyone who loves to airbush history, it’s freakin’ conservatives.

Slavery? “No big deal.” Interment of the Japanese? “They had it coming, plus it was FDR’s fault.” Jim Crow? “Wasn’t that bad.”

etc, etc, etc

199 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 5:49:42pm

re: #191 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

O’Malley is adopting a rather strange campaign strategy:

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Video

That is hands down the most caucasian thing I’ve seen all week.

200 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 3, 2015 5:52:07pm

I’m glad he lived long enough to see marriage opened up to gay couples.
Top-Ranking Mormon Leader Boyd K. Packer Dies at 90

201 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 5:52:13pm

CELEBRATION OR SADNESS!?!?

202 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 5:53:14pm

Remember folks — if you have an external hard drive and it suddenly refuses to respond, 9 times out of 10 it isn’t the drive that failed, it’s the power supply in the drive’s enclosure.

I just regained the use of two external drives by opening their enclosures and checking them by plugging them into a USB dock. Both drives were fine, it was the power supplies that bit the dust.

I got two of these super-cheap USB enclosures from Amazon: amazon.com

And now both drives are operating at full speed again.

I didn’t really need that 5TB drive I bought earlier this week, but hey … FIVE TERABYTES. My Time Machine backup will now go back several years.

203 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:53:21pm

re: #200 No Country For Old Haters

I’m glad he lived long enough to see marriage opened up to gay couples.
Top-Ranking Mormon Leader Boyd K. Packer Dies at 90

Probably killed him.

204 Amory Blaine  Jul 3, 2015 5:54:28pm

A fancy lad! A real dandy!

205 calochortus  Jul 3, 2015 5:57:43pm

Time to go do something about dinner.

206 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 3, 2015 5:59:04pm

re: #201 b.d.

CELEBRATION OR SADNESS!?!?

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207 Jenner7  Jul 3, 2015 5:59:46pm

Glad Takei apologized. It was the right thing to do.

Virulent racist? Um, not even close. Nolte’s an asshat.

208 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 6:01:51pm

re: #206 No Country For Old Haters

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The America hating dudebros sure have been quiet over the last week or so.

Historic progressive change sure did shut them up.

209 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 6:06:52pm

re: #184 calochortus

What constitutes “opposite” in a fish?

Dark, heavy V. White, light.

210 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 6:07:17pm

re: #207 Jenner7

He used a word that carries a lot of weight. He was actually making a valid point with it, but the word itself is so highly charged it opened an opportunity for the right to viciously attack him. Racism is more than words. It’s intent, and context, and action. The right wants to make it all about words, because that lets them avoid responsibility for their intent.

211 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 6:08:20pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

He used a word that carries a lot of weight. He was actually making a valid point with it, but the word itself is so highly charged it opened an opportunity for the right to viciously attack him. Racism is more than words. It’s intent, and context, and action. The right wants to make it all about words, because that lets them avoid responsibility for their intent.

And yet, when they use the words in combination with the intent and context, somehow it’s not about the words anymore and can we please all shut up and stop race-baiting?

212 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Jul 3, 2015 6:08:29pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

He used a word that carries a lot of weight. He was actually making a valid point with it, but the word itself is so highly charged it opened an opportunity for the right to viciously attack him. Racism is more than words. It’s intent, and context, and action. The right wants to make it all about words, because that lets them avoid responsibility for their intent.

That’s very pithily put. I hate this more than anything, the smug racists who avoid saying particular words while still calling all black people subhuman criminals, while tut-tutting at any rapper who uses the word ‘n*****’.

213 b.d.  Jul 3, 2015 6:08:35pm

Awwwww:

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s asylum plea rejected by France

msnbc.com

Didn’t Assange promise to leave that embassy months ago?

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 6:09:38pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

We had BLTs today.

Almost OD’ed on them, but it was soooo good.

215 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2015 6:09:59pm

re: #123 b.d.

Turkeys in the wild are really cool to see and a sign of sane hunting laws, regulation and conservation. I never saw any growing up

There be plenty of Wild Turkeys in the Twin Cities, along with melanistic squirrels.

216 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 6:11:10pm

re: #209 #FergusonFireside

Dark, heavy V. White, light.

Enough with your bourgeoise seafood prejudices.

217 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 6:13:48pm
West Coast Fish Represent!
218 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2015 6:13:58pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

Depending on the power supply, it could be as simple as replacing bad caps. Here’s a blog that I follow that does teardowns of things that fail and provides pointers on how to fix things.

219 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 6:14:39pm

re: #217 goddamnedfrank

That looks really yummy.

220 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2015 6:16:53pm

Since food has come up, lemme point out that I got my hands on garlic scapes this morning, and turned it into a mighty fine pesto (parve at that):

Scapes plus fresh basil, EVOO, a little lemon juice, and almonds make for mighty fine tasting.

Perfect for pasta, pizza, or pretty much anything else.

221 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 6:18:08pm
222 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 6:18:59pm

re: #220 lawhawk

That sounds good too. Darn I am starting to get hungry.

223 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 6:20:01pm

re: #217 goddamnedfrank

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Except for Salmon! Except for Salmon! my favorite.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 6:20:06pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

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He indeed meant to cause distress to everyone.
Asshole.

225 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 6:20:56pm

re: #201 b.d.

CELEBRATION OR SADNESS!?!?

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Any chance that means they are going to elaborate on

“…the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”

part of the DoI?

226 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2015 6:26:36pm
227 TedStriker  Jul 3, 2015 6:27:57pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Oh, I’m sure that ex-wife Jenny did quite a whammy on him.

228 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 6:28:27pm

JetBlue makes 1st New York-Havana flight

“The company’s first flight between New York and Havana was an Airbus A320 with seating for 150 passengers, which took off at noon from JFK.”

229 goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2015 6:28:57pm

re: #223 #FergusonFireside

Except for Salmon! Except for Salmon! my favorite.

Too late. All the fish heard you and now they’re pissed.

230 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 6:34:57pm

The fireworks are starting to go off around here.

231 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 6:40:12pm

re: #230 PhillyPretzel

Well, it’s very sunny and warm here.

And dry.

232 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 6:41:06pm

re: #231 freetoken

Well, it’s very sunny and warm here.

And dry.

We’ve had a good amount of rain recently here in the wild north country. We had fireworks already going off last night up here.

233 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 6:43:46pm
234 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 6:44:51pm

re: #231 freetoken

Well, it’s very sunny and warm here.

And dry.

67F and raining here in the Backwoods.

Kind of nice, actually.

235 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 6:49:20pm

Out on my walk today… and discovered that yet another of my favorite loquat trees had been cut down.

It was not a volunteer one either, but a select variety. Fully mature, every spring it would be loaded with hundreds of the orange-flesh type.

Now … all gone. I think the woman who was living there must have died or now can’t take care of the place. Last year when I stopped by to ask permission a younger male answered the door - I assume the son.

Most of her well planted fruit bearing yard is now dead or cut down. And what is left is not being maintained (basically weeds growing.)

So sad to see.

And while I was walking around I’m seeing quite a few lots not well maintained.

My well worn soapbox: people (real estate agents in particular, but also the younger “aspirational” couples) have this view of property that is not tied to the physical world, the world of rocks and atoms, and of plants and animals. To them a piece of land is just a number on a loan, which exists to be over-priced by inflation, so some mythical “wealth” can be extracted to buy a fancy car that they are supposed to have to prove to the world they are “successful”.

Well, not to me. A single loquat tree is more valuable than the latest Mercedes SUV.

236 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 6:51:18pm

One thing that happens so commonly is that young people and first time property owners under appreciate the costs - time and money - to properly maintain property and improvements.

237 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 6:53:09pm

re: #236 freetoken

One thing that happens so commonly is that young people and first time property owners under appreciate the costs - time and money - to properly maintain property and improvements.

And this is one thing my father continually impressed upon me by having me help with maintenance and improvement tasks as a youngster. I know what it costs to replace a roof, or to resurface my driveway, or to rebuild my deck - and can plan accordingly, to ensure that these projects are done on a reasonable schedule. I also prioritize maintaining my lawn within the constraints of my schedule, because I don’t want my lawn to be “that guy’s” that always looks unkempt and weedy.

238 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 6:56:40pm

re: #237 thedopefishlives

Property is a burden that has to appreciated. I don’t own where I live now, but I have before, and I was overwhelmed by work involved.

So I speak from experience.

You were fortunate to have a parent who prepared you for tackling the “American Dream”.

I look around here and I see overpriced poorly-built houses on land that is much more valued than the shacks built on them. And by “shacks” I mean places around here that are still appraised at over $500k.

239 Teukka  Jul 3, 2015 6:56:41pm

re: #218 Eric The Fruit Bat

Depending on the power supply, it could be as simple as replacing bad caps. Here’s a blog that I follow that does teardowns of things that fail and provides pointers on how to fix things.

Formally educated on electronics here…

Yeah, the “capacitor plague” is sadly a still ongoing saga.
Another reason is that bean counters decide to save on parts. Sometimes parts are exchanged for ones which can’t handle continuous load, or exchanged for parts which can’t handle the environment continuously.

If you decide to go the re-cap route, don’t do what the bean-counters did.
Use known quality name caps (e.g. Nichicon, Panasonic) . Use low ESR caps, use 105°C rated caps, even if the originals are 85°C, it is not uncommon for the enclosures to run too hot for cap comfort.

Check if the enclosure has unpopulated space for fans, consider populating it if you run the drive in places with known temp extremes. If it has space for a fan and you tend to run it in warm places, consider a retrofitted fan.

And yeah, Dave Jones (a.k.a. that crazy Aussie bloke) is well-known among us Electronics nerds).

240 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 7:00:56pm

re: #238 freetoken

For all their faults, my folks were good parents who prepared their kids for success outside the teenage/college bubble. I’m glad they taught me the skills I needed to lead my own family and be a responsible car and property owner.

241 Feline Overlord  Jul 3, 2015 7:01:56pm

Sinned against?

242 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 7:03:07pm

re: #241 Feline Overlord

Rudeness is right up there with eating shrimp.

243 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 7:04:57pm

re: #240 thedopefishlives

Reality is that “stuff” so often turns into a burden. When I look around at people in my community I see the full gamut, from those who are keeping up what they own, to people who are clearly in way over their heads. As I get older it’s one of those things I appreciate more - the range of preparedness of people as they leave their nest.

244 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 7:10:58pm

re: #243 freetoken

Reality is that “stuff” so often turns into a burden. When I look around at people in my community I see the full gamut, from those who are keeping up what they own, to people who are clearly in way over their heads. As I get older it’s one of those things I appreciate more - the range of preparedness of people as they leave their nest.

Nothing is permanent. Maintenance costs should be factored into the purchase price of any big-ticket item. So many people I see use their cars like disposable items, and then they wonder why they’re always barely keeping their heads above water.

245 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2015 7:11:06pm

niterz, lizardz!

246 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 7:12:37pm

re: #241 Feline Overlord

Talk about a man who needs to deal with the plank in his own eye.

247 PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2015 7:17:12pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is so cute. Thanks. :)

248 freetoken  Jul 3, 2015 7:18:12pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

Nothing is permanent. Maintenance costs should be factored into the purchase price of any big-ticket item. So many people I see use their cars like disposable items, and then they wonder why they’re always barely keeping their heads above water.

Because our culture is now built around the automobile, so many people are on the edge financially. Again, one of the insights of getting older is now looking back I see how much I spent on automobiles. I did better than many others, but still wasted thousands of dollars on unneeded trips.

But it is more than just money. Things take ownership of oneself. They demand attention - upkeep, eventually disposal.

To be young and foolish, or old and wise. What a choice.

249 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2015 7:18:57pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Smoke the potatoes. Trust me.

And add the bacon grease to the dressing.

250 thedopefishlives  Jul 3, 2015 7:21:00pm

Good night, gentle lizardfolk. Don’t blow yourselves up tomorrow - I expect a full count of all appendages when I return. Be safe, have fun, and God bless this great country in spite of all those idjits out there on the right.

251 The Ghost of the Abomination Colors  Jul 3, 2015 7:25:52pm

I was expecting Fallout 3 to be more immersive.

(looks over at pile of carefully-stacked bottlecaps)

Well…fuck. It snuck up on me.

252 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 7:30:09pm

I was playing around with a new font I bought earlier in the week and I made a graphic for when I’m getting ready to block a wingnut Twitter troll, so feel free to use it if you want.

Here’s the text-only version on a transparent background in case anyone wants to use if for their own thing:

That is all.

253 plansbandc  Jul 3, 2015 7:31:04pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

Mr. plansbandc and I may have cheered whoever chopped the foot off the Oñate statue.

Really not cool to have memorials for that guy.

254 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2015 7:33:02pm

re: #239 Teukka

I’ve always use Panasonic/Nichicon caps when I’ve had to re-cap power supplies, and Dave always says its best to go higher across the broad ratings-wise when re-capping.

I usually use Digikey as my main source for repair parts.

255 Great White Snark  Jul 3, 2015 7:38:39pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

So since their “innate” human dignity can’t be taken away, then wingnuts should stop whining about their supposed persecution loss of freedoms, right? RIGHT?? Oh, I’m sorry—that’s different you say? How so, pray tell?

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Hah! Nice use of the privacy feature.

256 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2015 7:39:11pm

I’m not long for this world this evening. Had a talk at work with one of the owners (the one who is more in-tune with the business ops side, the other focuses more on the instruction and training). I see some ways to improve our inventory management while not having a huge amount of stuff sitting on shelves in the back tying up capitol. He seemed to like the idea and gave me the green light on it.

All I can say is that it’s nice working at a place where I feel appreciated, and that I feel like I’m making a difference.

Tomorrow I’m going to a huge 4th party / fireworks show that a “second circle of friends” friend is throwing. He’s providing chicken legs, burgers and dogs for everybody, plus grills if people want to fix their own food. Asks that people bring a case of soda / water / deserts / sides. I’m doing a gallon of my grandfathers Greek rice pudding. (It’s the same one that you might have in any small diner up or down the east coast). So good.

Huggs and happy thoughts to all my favorite lizards.

RBS

257 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 7:39:56pm

BTW, there’s also this—I don’t RT Da’esh threats, so I’ll just leave it here:

258 #FergusonFireside  Jul 3, 2015 7:41:11pm

re: #235 freetoken

Out on my walk today… and discovered that yet another of my favorite loquat trees had been cut down.

It was not a volunteer one either, but a select variety. Fully mature, every spring it would be loaded with hundreds of the orange-flesh type.

Now … all gone. I think the woman who was living there must have died or now can’t take care of the place. Last year when I stopped by to ask permission a younger male answered the door - I assume the son.

Most of her well planted fruit bearing yard is now dead or cut down. And what is left is not being maintained (basically weeds growing.)

So sad to see.

And while I was walking around I’m seeing quite a few lots not well maintained.

My well worn soapbox: people (real estate agents in particular, but also the younger “aspirational” couples) have this view of property that is not tied to the physical world, the world of rocks and atoms, and of plants and animals. To them a piece of land is just a number on a loan, which exists to be over-priced by inflation, so some mythical “wealth” can be extracted to buy a fancy car that they are supposed to have to prove to the world they are “successful”.

Well, not to me. A single loquat tree is more valuable than the latest Mercedes SUV.

QFT, and everyone, pay attention in your neighborhood.

259 Great White Snark  Jul 3, 2015 7:42:18pm

re: #257 CuriousLurker

BTW, there’s also this—I don’t RT Da’esh threats, so I’ll just leave it here:

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And it could be worse for the locals. OMG as if they don’t have it bad enough already.

260 CuriousLurker  Jul 3, 2015 7:43:11pm

re: #259 Great White Snark

And it could be worse for the locals. OMG as if they don’t have it bad enough already.

My thoughts exactly. They haven’t recovered from last summer yet.

261 Cheechako  Jul 3, 2015 7:50:05pm

re: #233 jaunte

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John….don’t worry, I don’t think you’ll be invited to many gay marriages.

262 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 7:55:35pm
263 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2015 8:00:26pm

I’m putting the picture inside a spoiler tag, since I know that some of the lizards may have a strong reaction to a giant red-headed centipede. (I know I did). It’s called a Texas Redhead, grows up to 8 inches, and worst of all, have been know to kill and eat lizards. Truly the stuff of nightmares.

No, just NO!!!!!!

Read more here… tpwmagazine.com

264 Cheechako  Jul 3, 2015 8:06:45pm

The Brown Bear cam is back on line:

Brown Bear Cam

265 Bird in the Paw  Jul 3, 2015 8:09:51pm

re: #263 RealityBasedSteve

That is a beautiful bug. The colors are so delineated it looks fake.

266 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2015 8:13:03pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment - 2016 presidential candidates spreadsheet updated to include Jim Webb (declared) & John Kasich (unlikely, but possible), notes on candidates’ current & past positions (wrt experience, not ideology), some columns deleted/rearranged: docs.google.com

CL, if you are around still. Kasich will be announcing on July 21 from The Ohio State University Student Union.

Here a link to Politico article.

Politico - John Kasich to announce presidential bid July 21

267 jaunte  Jul 3, 2015 8:13:12pm

re: #263 RealityBasedSteve

“…Scolopendra heros is purported to make tiny incisions with its legs while walking across human skin. When the animal is irritated, a poison is supposedly produced near the base of each leg and dropped into the wounds causing inflammation and irritation. According to one story cited by Dr. Baerg, an officer in the Confederate Army, while sleeping in his tent, was suddenly aroused by the creepy feeling of a large centipede crawling on his chest. A number of spots of deep red, forming a broad streak, indicated the arthropod’s passage across the man’s chest and abdomen. Violent pain and convulsions soon set in, accompanied by excessive swelling in the bitten area. The victim fought with death for two days and then succumbed. ”
uark.edu

268 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2015 8:14:10pm

re: #265 Bird in the Paw

That is a beautiful bug. The colors are so delineated it looks fake.

Yep… that’s a bug saying “I’m toxic, and you damn better leave me alone, you’ve been warned”.

It is striking.

RBS

269 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 3, 2015 8:14:34pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should write an article about Chucky’s new post. I just read it for the second time, and man oh man is this ever bizarre and fucked up. On the other hand, it’s now been up there for 14 hours and has only one comment:

If I write about this garbage post I might be giving it much more attention than it deserves.

ICYMI, I published a “translation” of Chuck’s screed earlier today. I included three direct quotes from him, because they were self-parody.

ANALYSISIS: The truth about the Charleston shooting and the Confederate Flag: It’s all progressives’ fault. Oh, yeah, and Obama’s, too

270 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2015 8:20:21pm

Well gang, I’m outta here. I’m going to do my best to not dream of black and yellow centipedes with a freaking red skull for a head. Yea…. better take a melatonin before I turn the light off.

RBS

271 Varek Raith  Jul 3, 2015 8:21:34pm

re: #270 RealityBasedSteve

Well gang, I’m outta here. I’m going to do my best to not dream of black and yellow centipedes with a freaking red skull for a head. Yea…. better take a melatonin before I turn the light off.

RBS

There’ll be some under your bed and pillows and sheets and in your ears!

272 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 3, 2015 8:23:40pm

re: #270 RealityBasedSteve

Well gang, I’m outta here. I’m going to do my best to not dream of black and yellow centipedes with a freaking red skull for a head. Yea…. better take a melatonin before I turn the light off.

RBS

I remember a scene from one of the James Bond novels. Someone has put a poisonous centipede in Bond’s hotel room. Bond manages to smash the thing before it bites him, and immediately afterward runs to the bathroom — apparently, to throw up. I doubt that last part was in the movie version.

273 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2015 8:24:14pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

There’ll be some under your bed and pillows and sheets and in your ears!

Varek, there is a special place in hell for you, where you will be forced to watch infomercials featuring Michelle Bachmann 23 hours a day. The remaining hour they will make it REALLY painful for you.

RBS

274 blueraven  Jul 3, 2015 8:29:42pm

re: #263 RealityBasedSteve

I’m putting the picture inside a spoiler tag, since I know that some of the lizards may have a strong reaction to a giant red-headed centipede. (I know I did). It’s called a Texas Redhead, grows up to 8 inches, and worst of all, have been know to kill and eat lizards. Truly the stuff of nightmares.

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Read more here… tpwmagazine.com

Saw one of these in my back yard this past Tuesday, by the wood pile, where the lizards hang…

he was Yoooge!

275 b_sharp  Jul 3, 2015 8:38:58pm

re: #36 jaunte

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Neither of them got it.

276 Kragar  Jul 3, 2015 8:47:50pm

Still getting anti-vaxers in my mentions, sick bastards spread like a plague

277 austin_blue  Jul 3, 2015 8:56:06pm

re: #155 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess the secondary question is what swing or marginal states are they a sizable fraction of? I don’t think they can turn Texas purple yet, and in a state like California or New York the GOP will discount them since they don’t have realistic plans of winning those states at this time.

They might could, if they’d vote. Hispanic turnout in Texas is execrable, even when a Hispanic is running near the top of the ticket (last cycle, Leticia Van De Putte for Lt. Gov). We ended up with Dan Patrick, who is an absolute nut job.

From the Texas Tribune on the 2012 cycle:

“In Texas, which is home to nearly one in five of all U.S. Hispanics, just 39 percent of Hispanics who were eligible to vote in the 2012 presidential election cast a ballot. That’s compared with 48 percent of eligible U.S. Hispanics, 61 percent of eligible white Texans and 64 percent of eligible white Americans.”

texastribune.org

As my buddy Ramiro says, “My peeps don’t vote. Too wrapped up in their families and they feel like it doesn’t make any difference.”

And he’s a Director who manages a Division in a State Agency with about 1,000 employees. Smart as a whip. Closeted Lib. Frustrated by it all.

278 WhatEVs  Jul 3, 2015 8:57:43pm

re: #235 freetoken

My neighbor hates trees. I think she’s afraid they’ll fall on her. She cut all her trees down in her sizable back yard and approached me twitch to take down trees bordering our properties.

I told her to get a tree guy out. If he says they’re sick or in danger of coming down, we can talk, otherwise no way I’m voluntarily cutting down a beautiful mature tree.

279 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 8:58:26pm

re: #277 austin_blue

They might could, if they’d vote. Hispanic turnout in Texas is execrable, even when a Hispanic is running near the top of the ticket (last cycle, Leticia Van De Putte for Lt. Gov). We ended up with Dan Patrick, who is an absolute nut job.

From the Texas Tribune on the 2012 cycle:

“In Texas, which is home to nearly one in five of all U.S. Hispanics, just 39 percent of Hispanics who were eligible to vote in the 2012 presidential election cast a ballot. That’s compared with 48 percent of eligible U.S. Hispanics, 61 percent of eligible white Texans and 64 percent of eligible white Americans.”

texastribune.org

As my buddy Ramiro says, “My peeps don’t vote. Too wrapped up in their families and they feel like it doesn’t make any difference.”

And he’s a Director who manages a Division in a State Agency with about 1,000 employees. Smart as a whip. Closeted Lib. Frustrated by it all.

Latinos would be the group every party in Texas would be after if they would vote.

280 Belafon  Jul 3, 2015 9:06:25pm

I heard a story on tv about Clyde Kennard: en.m.wikipedia.org.
Short: in the late 50s, he wanted to transfer to a college in Mississippi to help his mom on the farm. The governor tried everything to keep him out, including offering to pay for his school out of state. When that didn’t work, they got a guy who stole some chicken feed to say Kennard was the mastermind. He was given the max sentence and sent to a cotton farm prison. He developed colon cancer, but the governor refused to release him unto right before he died. The governor said it wouldn’t send the right message.

281 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2015 9:16:27pm

re: #265 Bird in the Paw

That is a beautiful bug. The colors are so delineated it looks fake.

Centipedes are a freakshow anyway. With all those identical segments just like an annelid worm, coupled with the front six being fused into a perfect arthropod head, if they were extinct and you found one as a fossil everybody would say it was a fake.


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