Donald Trump Whines About Being Called a Racist Because of His Racist Remarks

But the GOP base loves it
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Donald Trump’s racist remarks about Mexican immigrants are causing businesses like Macy’s to have second thoughts about dealing with him; this week they announced they were pulling Trump’s clothing line (which, ironically, is made in Mexico) from their stores, and today Trump is whining about it in classic right wing style.

“I knew it was going to be bad because I was told this. All my life I have been told this: If you are successful, you don’t run for office,” Trump said in an interview on Fox News, addressing the recent spate of businesses that have severed their relationships with his brand. “I didn’t know it was going to be quite this severe, but I really knew it was going to be bad.”

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Trump’s comments have since led a spate of corporations — including Macy’s, NBC Universal, Univision and mattress company Serta — to disavow their partnerships with the business mogul.

The Republican presidential candidate has since defied those companies — even suing Univision for $500 million because of their dropped pageant contract — and defended his statements on immigration.

“It seems like I’m sort of the whipping post because I bring it up. And I don’t understand whether you are liberal or whether you are conservative or whether you are Republican, Democrat — why wouldn’t you talk about a problem?” Trump said Saturday. “The crime is raging. It’s violent, and people don’t want to even talk about it. If you talk about it, you are a racist. I don’t understand it.”

Actually, Trump is a racist not because he wants to “talk about” a real problem, but because he’s spewing hatred at an entire population of people — and because he’s simply wrong. Data show Mexican immigrants (legal or illegal) are in fact less likely to commit crimes.

But meanwhile, the right wing base absolutely loves this kind of anti-Latino racism, and Trump is actually polling in second place among GOP presidential candidates right now, at a time when the Republican Party needs to rebuild its support among minorities.

It might be comical, if it weren’t such a sad, sad picture of the continuing degradation of the US conservative movement into the worst sort of of reactionary xenophobia.

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280 comments

1 Unabogie  Jul 5, 2015 10:18:26am

Not only are Latinos not more likely to contribute to this “raging” crime problem, but crime overall has dropped sharply since the 1999s, which means he’s just wrong about everything.

Which also means he’d make a great Republican.

2 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2015 10:20:09am

Speaking of idiot republicans. My FB feed is full of “Greece proves socialism is a failure!”.

Holding my tongue.

3 Chan Kobun  Jul 5, 2015 10:21:43am
5 PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2015 10:22:41am

Trump should just shut up. On the other hand it might work to Bernie’s or Hillary’s advantage.

6 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 10:25:23am

re: #2 GlutenFreeJesus

Speaking of idiot republicans. My FB feed is full of “Greece proves socialism is a failure!”.

Holding my tongue.

Actually what Greece proves is that Economic Illiteracy + Large-Scale Tax Evasion = Economic Disaster. Not all of the Greek governments that have presided over this years-in-the-making train wreck have been socialist, but they’ve all done economically stupid things and they all failed to stamp out tax evasion.

7 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 10:27:28am

Look who else is whining about being called a racist==>

8 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 10:28:16am
10 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 5, 2015 10:30:32am

Trump and Walker are polling seven points behind Bush in New Hampshire. NH has one of the highest white-to-Hispanic ratios in the US, it’s 91% non-Hispanic white, so what’s driving Trump’s polling there?

11 Chan Kobun  Jul 5, 2015 10:31:28am

re: #3 Chan Kobun

You want a real treat, check that first tweet by @Wagnerfilm. Con-bag tries desperately to defend Trump’s shit.

12 Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2015 10:31:59am

It’s embarrassing that the MSM continues to pretend that Trump is a serious candidate. They really do have a short memory. Four years ago every GOP candidate was at the top of the polls at one time or another….including Trump. Idiots.

*edited*

13 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 10:32:13am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Look who else is whining about being called a racist==>

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I have black friends, I can’t be racist.

14 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 10:32:21am

re: #3 Chan Kobun

Glad to see you posting here.

15 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2015 10:32:25am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Actually what Greece proves is that Economic Illiteracy + Large-Scale Tax Evasion = Economic Disaster. Not all of the Greek governments that have presided over this years-in-the-making train wreck have been socialist, but they’ve all done economically stupid things and they all failed to stamp out tax evasion.

And foolishly adopted the Euro.

16 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 5, 2015 10:32:34am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Look who else is whining about being called a racist==>

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Because having one joint church service erases a lifetime of spreading lies and bigotry.

17 JadeHelmCurious  Jul 5, 2015 10:33:02am

Part of the right’s ignorant jingoism is the belief that immigrants want to come here because the US is just so awesome. That’s not necessarily true. It’s that they places they live are really horrible and the US is the only reasonable alternative. Honduras is in a really bad situation and northern Mexico has it’s narco culture. Decriminalization could have a huge impact on the narco terrorists but hell no with the right, they want a fence.

It’s just people trying to make a life. Who cares if we’re awesome or if we suck less.

18 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2015 10:37:43am

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

TOP 10 MOST SOCIALIST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

Greece is not on the list.

I note they couldn’t help bringing up ‘the national debt’ repeatedly as if somehow a nation being kind to its citizens was a bad thing and totally responsible for that debt.

19 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 10:37:49am

I commented early on that Trump didn’t have any idea how much damage he’d do to his brand with his campaign. Now he admits to the damage and how it is more severe than he anticipated. Given that his brand is what’s helped him stay wealthy, it will be interesting to see how the damage to his brand will affect his finances.

As his more questionable activities get more attention (such as Trump University) I’m also hoping people begin to realize how much of his wealth results from unethical and/or fraudulent activities.

Please proceed, Mr. Trump.

20 William Lewis  Jul 5, 2015 10:38:00am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Actually what Greece proves is that Economic Illiteracy + Large-Scale Tax Evasion = Economic Disaster. Not all of the Greek governments that have presided over this years-in-the-making train wreck have been socialist, but they’ve all done economically stupid things and they all failed to stamp out tax evasion.

In fact most of the damage was done by far right governments and/or military juntas.

21 Chan Kobun  Jul 5, 2015 10:39:15am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Glad to see you posting here.

I have to spread the misery love around.

22 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 10:46:38am

re: #20 William Lewis

In fact most of the damage was done by far right governments and/or military juntas.

You can right-wing socially and still be anti-free market, or you can be economically socialist and still think gay people should be persecuted. What we think of as ‘left’ and ‘right’ socially and economically don’t always go together. It’s just the associations Americans make because of how the coalition politics of our parties have evolved.

23 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2015 10:46:43am

re: #20 William Lewis

I blame SPARTA!!!!!

24 Great White Snark  Jul 5, 2015 10:46:44am

Oh look I got someone else s mail by mistake. From Dan Quayle to Donald Trump. It’s a box labeled “Mantle-Most laughable presidential candidate”
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25 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 5, 2015 10:46:59am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

It’s embarrassing that the MSM continues to pretend that Trump is a serious candidate. They really do have a short member. Four years ago every GOP candidate was at the top of the polls at one time or another….including Trump. Idiots.

Well they need to see “Smiling Bob”, he’ll square them away.

26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 10:49:01am

And the early returns show “Oxi” ahead.

27 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 10:49:01am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

My staunchly evangelical church in the Deep South just had a rich joint worship service with a black church.

First ever?

28 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 10:50:11am

re: #27 jaunte

First ever?

If they worshipped joints together there would be some hope.

29 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2015 10:52:08am

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

And foolishly adopted the Euro.

From what I know it was more foolishness on the EU’s part for accepting Greece into the system. I gather that with a little help from Goldman-Sachs Greece presented bullshit data to the EU.

I am in favour of things like the EU. It’s the only counterbalance to the global economy.

If small nations, or even medium ones, try to do things like enforce laws about pollution or worker safety the large international businesses will tell them, “Okay. Then we’re leaving until you wise up.” The nation’s economy starts to sputter and fail. The international companies then get their way and the citizens of the country are screwed. Their choice is a failed economy or one that doesn’t treat them right.

This is why I’m so distrustful of ‘free trade agreements’. They usually have nothing to do with trade and everything to do with helping huge business interests ignore any attempt at balancing social interests.

Only large nations like the U.S. and China, or semi-nations like the EU can act as a balancing force to this phenomena. They’re large enough businesses pretty much have to play by their rules.

Those nations are probably going to fail eventually. The elites in those nations are often the elites in the businesses, or they will be when they’re done being public servants. The problem is that the global businesses are prepared to conquer but not to rule.

30 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 5, 2015 10:52:42am

re: #26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And the early returns show “Oxi” ahead.

And the Fasten Seat Belts sign just came on.

31 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 10:54:01am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

If they worshipped joints together there would be some hope.

At this point, I’m willing to try anything to try to loosen their sphincters a little.

32 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 10:55:07am

re: #25 RealityBasedSteve

Well they need to see “Smiling Bob”, he’ll square them away.

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Donald Trump doesn’t need to see him, since he’s already got a massive dick.

33 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 10:55:56am

As I’ve said before, the EU has members like Greece, we have “members” like Alabama. If they’re really going to be a “Union”, they need to get used to the idea.

What if we had to go through this drama every year just because Alabama pays less than it gets?

34 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 10:56:36am

re: #31 thedopefishlives

At this point, I’m willing to try anything to try to loosen their sphincters a little.

Southern evangelical services (either black or white) tend to run longer than Northern church services, so tight sphincters are something of a necessity.

35 Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2015 10:58:29am

re: #33 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As I’ve said before, the EU has members like Greece, we have “members” like Alabama. If they’re really going to be a “Union”, they need to get used to the idea.

What if we had to go through this drama every year just because Alabama pays less than it gets?

Bear in mind, the EU doesn’t define itself as a political federation like the United States. And a lot of the EU member states squawk at the very idea of political federation.

36 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 11:02:58am
37 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 11:03:53am
AUSTIN (AP) — Austin police have shot and killed a man with a rifle at a posh downtown hotel who they say fatally shot another person in the lobby.

Assistant police Chief Brian Manley said at a news conference Sunday that the shootings occurred shortly before 5 a.m. at the Omni Austin Hotel, about four blocks from the state Capitol.
wfaa.com

38 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 11:04:42am

BBL

39 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:05:32am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Bear in mind, the EU doesn’t define itself as a political federation like the United States. And a lot of the EU member states squawk at the very idea of political federation.

Part of the strength of the American system is that we are both a political and economic union. The EU wants to be an economic union without the political ties, while some states here would like to go back to a confederacy, with some political ties but few economic ones. That didn’t work the first time either.

40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 11:08:21am

It’s beginning to look like a landslide for “No”—over 60/40 with 25% counted.

41 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2015 11:11:15am

re: #33 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As I’ve said before, the EU has members like Greece, we have “members” like Alabama. If they’re really going to be a “Union”, they need to get used to the idea.

What if we had to go through this drama every year just because Alabama pays less than it gets?

And we would, if Alabama were a sovereign nation that could borrow in a currency that it doesn’t control.

If Greece had been borrowing in Drachmas, the collapse of the Drachma would devalue its debt as well. But its debt is in a currency the value of which is driven by much larger and more vibrant economies.

42 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 5, 2015 11:11:23am

Charles Johnson,

Here’s the perfect wingnut defense of Donald Trump!

Trump isn’t a racist! He never said all Mexicans were violent, killer drug dealers on crack, who are here to rape our women and take our jobs! I’m certain he has some Latino friends, that will prove he can’t be racist! George Takei is the real racist since he called Clearance Thomas a clown in black face! Never mind that he apologized. No it doesn’t matter, liberals are the real racists!

43 Drive By Commenter  Jul 5, 2015 11:11:31am

Trump just said out loud what his pea brain thinks. Nothing new but the reaction. This toadstool has been like this his entire tenure as the Poster Boy For Privileged Assholes. Refreshing that not only are people upset, but entire nations have had it with his bile. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving parasite.

44 Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2015 11:14:10am

Speiling iz harwd

45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 11:15:33am

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

And we would, if Alabama were a sovereign nation that could borrow in a currency that it doesn’t control.

If Greece had been borrowing in Drachmas, the collapse of the Drachma would devalue its debt as well. But its debt is in a currency the value of which is driven by much larger and more vibrant economies.

As is Alabama’s.

46 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 11:16:44am

re: #37 jaunte

Gah, I’d wager to say that the new open carry law isn’t helping. Yes, I realize that the law is for handguns in holsters, but it still contributes to a certain wild west mentality, IMO. That was okay back in the day when the West really was wild and mostly lawless, but now you have urban areas with millions of people and large paramilitary police forces. It’s just… a recipe for disaster.

47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 11:17:34am

Update, 2:15 p.m.: The Guardian reports that the Ministry of the Interior has released an official projection with a little less than a third of the vote counted. The government predicts that final results will put the No vote at 61% of the total.

48 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:17:40am

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Gah, I’d wager to say that the new open carry law isn’t helping. Yes, I realize that the law is for handguns in holsters, but it still contributes to a certain wild west mentality, IMO. That was okay back in the day when the West really was wild and mostly lawless, but now you have urban areas with millions of people and large paramilitary police forces. It’s just… a recipe for disaster.

It wasn’t OK in a lot of towns back then, which banned guns being brought into town.

49 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:19:39am

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As is Alabama’s.

The ultimate difference being that we don’t ask Alabama to repay the extra money sent to it.

50 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 11:20:04am

re: #48 Belafon

Interesting. I’d like to learn more about that, do you have any links handy?

51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 11:25:21am

H/t to John Cole:

With respect to Greece, the precise thing that European elites did to set the current chain of events in motion was to replace private debt with public during the 2010 first “bailout of Greece”. Prior to that event, it was obvious that blame was multipolar. Here are the banks, in France, in Germany, that foolishly lent. Not just to Greece, but to Goldman’s synthetic CDOs and every other piece of idiot paper they could carry with low risk-weights. In 2010, the EU, ECB, and IMF laundered a bailout of mostly French and German banks through the Greek fisc. Cash flowed into Greece only so it could flow out to rickety banks. Now, suddenly, the banks were absolved. There were very few bad loans left on the books of European lenders, everyone was clean, no bad actors at all. Except one. There were the institutions, the “troika”, clearly the good guys, so “helpful” with their generous offer of funds. And then there was Greece. What had been a mudwrestling match, everybody dirty, was transformed into mass of powdered wigs accusing a single filthy penitent (or, when the people with their savings in just-rescued banks decide to be generous, a petulant misbehaving child).

The whole thing was basically a money-laundering operation for the big European banks.

52 Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2015 11:26:23am

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Update, 2:15 p.m.: The Guardian reports that the Ministry of the Interior has released an official projection with a little less than a third of the vote counted. The government predicts that final results will put the No vote at 61% of the total.

Well, I guess we’ll see what the ECB, IMF - and most importantly, Angela Merkel - are going to do next. Brace for turbulence.

53 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 11:27:24am

Apparently people on Twitter are upset with Dave Weigel for tweeting a Jon NcNaughton painting yesterday.

54 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:27:54am

re: #50 CuriousLurker

I went digging for something related to Wyatt Earp, because lots of people know about him from movies, which portray him as enforcing gun laws in the towns he’s in. Here’s a link showing a picture from that time:

skeptics.stackexchange.com.

This link shows the picture and provides reference links.

55 Varek Raith  Jul 5, 2015 11:33:28am

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

H/t to John Cole:

The whole thing was basically a money-laundering operation for the big European banks.

WTF.

56 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 11:34:43am
57 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2015 11:34:44am

re: #54 Belafon

I went digging for something related to Wyatt Earp, because lots of people know about him from movies, which portray him as enforcing gun laws in the towns he’s in. Here’s a link showing a picture from that time:

skeptics.stackexchange.com.

This link shows the picture and provides reference links.

Somehow the RWNJ’s “open carry cowboy” fantasy meshes nicely with their “Lost Cause of the Confederacy” and “I could be John Galt” fantasies.

58 Bear  Jul 5, 2015 11:35:05am

re: #50 CuriousLurker

One Nevada town still had a rule that your gun must be in a sack when coming there. That was in 1953.

59 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 11:37:09am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel

From your link: a great brand name.

60 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:39:04am

re: #54 Belafon

A related link about the same book referenced, huffingtonpost.com, had this paragraph:

When Dodge City residents organized their municipal government, do you know what the very first law they passed was? A gun control law. They declared that “any person or persons found carrying concealed weapons in the city of Dodge or violating the laws of the State shall be dealt with according to law.” Many frontier towns, including Tombstone, Arizona—the site of the infamous “Shootout at the OK Corral”—also barred the carrying of guns openly.

61 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2015 11:41:51am

I would point out, just as an aside, that those infallible pollsters had the Greek Referendum as pretty much a dead heat. Now it looks like it’s going to be 61/39 “No”. That’s bad. Not Literary Digest Landon over Roosevelt 60/40 bad, but bad.

62 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 11:44:32am

re: #54 Belafon

I went digging for something related to Wyatt Earp, because lots of people know about him from movies, which portray him as enforcing gun laws in the towns he’s in. Here’s a link showing a picture from that time:

skeptics.stackexchange.com.

This link shows the picture and provides reference links.

re: #60 Belafon

Thanks.

63 blueraven  Jul 5, 2015 11:46:14am

re: #53 jaunte

Apparently people on Twitter are upset with Dave Weigel for tweeting a Jon NcNaughton painting yesterday.

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I saw the tweet and knowing Weigel, did not take offense. But I can see how some people would.

No matter that it was an obvious joke, some will never believe that.
Oh well, he should have known this would happen.

64 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 11:47:19am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

“Somebody’s doing the raping!”

More than likely someone known by the person who was raped.

65 ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2015 11:47:19am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

The good news is that the guy polling ahead of Trump is attacking trump for his nasty remarks. The bad news is that his surname is Bush.

The other bad news is Jebby most likely had to have meetings with strategists to determine what stance to take and how to put into words so as to not piss off too many of the party’s rabid base of wingnut.

To me Jeb isn’t showing he is quick on his feet. What does that say about quick thinking while on the job. Not good.

Same problem many of them have had. It took them days to figure out what to say. And then of course you have those like Cruz that still can’t bring themselves to do anything.

That problem is going to be the Republican’s probably through the whole election cycle for 2016. They kissed crazy too much and now they can’t kiss ‘em off.

66 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2015 11:48:39am

re: #19 A Cranky One

Oh, for fuck’s sake, Trump’s businesses have tanked at least 3 times where he left shareholders holding the bag, and yet he always comes out clean. Why the other GOP candidates oppo researchers haven’t brought that out is perhaps symbolic of the entire GOP political modus operandi , perhaps?

67 allegro  Jul 5, 2015 11:52:25am

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, for fuck’s sake, Trump’s businesses have tanked at least 3 times where he left shareholders holding the bad, and yet he always comes out clean. Why the other GOP candidates oppo researchers haven’t brought that out is perhaps symbolic of the entire GOP political modus operandi , perhaps?

All the other candidates need to do right now is back off and let Trump destroy himself. He’s doing a real good job. Recent history has demonstrated how fickle RWNJ are so it’s only a matter of a very short time when they’ll move on to the next shiny candidate du jour.

68 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 11:54:28am
69 freetoken  Jul 5, 2015 11:56:45am
70 Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2015 11:57:03am

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

Trump should just shut up. On the other hand it might work to Bernie’s or Hillary’s advantage.

No he shouldn’t. He should escalate, loudly and publicly.

The GOP created and nurtured people like Trump, so they should get the full benefit of their creation.

71 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 5, 2015 11:59:36am

re: #37 jaunte

I’d like to see a news collector called “White Guy Body Count” with a breakdown of how many people were shot and killed by angry white guys in America today, this week, over the past month, etc.

Every random public building shooter, armored van assailant, family murderer, suicide-by-cop, every mass school shooter and mass church shooter, et cetera, just linked and counted every day with statistics broken down in fun little graphics like you get on science blogs.

Assuming of course that our guy in Austin is yet another palefaced kid off his nut about his job, ex-girlfriend, nigras in the white house, gays, whatever. I could be wrong…

72 freetoken  Jul 5, 2015 12:03:07pm

RealClearMud goes equating with their headlines:

“This Week” Roundtable: Donald Trump And Bernie Sanders, No Backing Down

73 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 12:03:37pm

re: #71 Pawn of the Oppressor

“the gunman, described as a white male in his 30s,”
kvue.com

74 William of Orange  Jul 5, 2015 12:03:57pm

It’s a bloody shame that blowhards like this German anchor baby Trump is getting headlines while the truly important stuff is not mentioned!!!

Case in point; the passing of Nicholas Winton.

This humble English man is called the English Schindler. Through his actions in the second worldwar he saved 669 mostly Jewish children from certain death. Just a few days ago, on July 1st, he passed away at the age of 106.

Here’s his story.

theguardian.com

75 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2015 12:06:16pm

re: #71 Pawn of the Oppressor

You would think such a stat would have been something that has been available from one or more Fed/state agencies- for quite a while-sadly it’s not.

76 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 5, 2015 12:06:42pm

re: #74 William of Orange

It’s a bloody shame that blowhards like this German anchor baby Trump is getting headlines while the truly important stuff is not mentioned!!!/strong>

Case in point; the passing of Nicholas Winton.

This humble English man is called the English Schindler. Through his actions in the second worldwar he saved 669 mostly Jewish children from certain death. Just a few days ago, on July 1st, he passed away at the age of 106.

Here’s his story.
YES!!!!

I heard about him yesterday on NPR. A truly amazing individual, and one who never made himself the center of attention.

RBS

theguardian.com

77 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:21:22pm

re: #72 freetoken

RealClearMud goes equating with their headlines:

“This Week” Roundtable: Donald Trump And Bernie Sanders, No Backing Down

We understand of course, in which direction this is headed. But there is also a good thing about such comparisons. Both Sanders and Trump arguably do represent their “red-meat” bases. Which tells us something about the bases.

78 Varek Raith  Jul 5, 2015 12:25:54pm

re: #77 Nyet

We understand of course, in which direction this is headed. But there is also a good thing about such comparisons. Both Sanders and Trump arguably do represent their “red-meat” bases. Which tells us something about the bases.

Like Warren, Sanders says things that sound great and nice. Problem is, they have little in the way of legislation that backs it up. All hat, no cattle as they say.

79 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:28:02pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

Like Warren, Sanders says things that sound great and nice. Problem is, they have little in the way of legislation that backs it up. All hat, no cattle as they say.

True, true. I’m talking more about ethos.

80 Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2015 12:31:32pm

re: #73 jaunte

“the gunman, described as a white male in his 30s,”
kvue.com

Was he wearing a stupid looking hat? If so, I might know who the guy is.

81 DodgerFan1988  Jul 5, 2015 12:37:17pm

Rick Santorum outTrumped Donald Trump, said immigrants comes here with bad intentions.crooksandliars.com

82 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 12:42:59pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

83 Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2015 12:44:12pm

Ann Coulter isn’t about to be out-hated by Trump or Santorum.

Ann Coulter: Mexicans Are More Deadly Than Sharks

“I’m dying to know if Jeb Bush attacks Donald Trump for his comments the actual day [Kate Steinle] was murdered by an illegal immigrant or the next day,” she quipped. “I’m gathering he won’t be speaking at her funeral.”

“You know, going into this weekend, the media was consumed with stories, Americans have to be on the lookout for ISIS attacks and terror attack expected, and oh, shark attacks,” Coulter declared. “I will bet you by the end of the weekend, more Americans will have been killed by Mexicans than by ISIS or by sharks.”

crooksandliars.com

84 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:44:20pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

OK, how do I join the Dem party ASAP?!?! ///

Never happened, of course.

85 Varek Raith  Jul 5, 2015 12:45:08pm

Dear God,
BOOOO!
/OUTRAGE

86 Acemarilllion  Jul 5, 2015 12:46:45pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

Oh that’s no mistake. Huma Abedin is an obsession of Matt Drudge

87 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 12:49:49pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

What’s the actual context for the picture? In other words, what is it they’re getting wrong this time?

88 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:52:50pm

re: #87 Belafon

DNC or someone like that wanted to include some God-language in the platform. During the convention, where the delegates vote “orally”, there were about the same number of “ayes” as “nays” - at least audibly. The guy who decides these things still ruled the amendments should go in. Apparently that’s where the booing started - because of the decision based on a whim, not because of God as such.

89 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:54:26pm

Video:

90 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 12:58:07pm

So the Greek referendum is apparently a “no”.

91 Nyet  Jul 5, 2015 1:00:08pm

Why would there be a stance on Jerusalem in any platform belonging to an American party?

92 missliberties  Jul 5, 2015 1:15:39pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Actually what Greece proves is that Economic Illiteracy + Large-Scale Tax Evasion = Economic Disaster. Not all of the Greek governments that have presided over this years-in-the-making train wreck have been socialist, but they’ve all done economically stupid things and they all failed to stamp out tax evasion.

It sounds like a case of rank corruption at the top and highly unsustainable financial schemes with screwball accounting counting debt as money in the bank. That’s not socialism. It’s corruption.

bloomberg.com

” Yet the Athens Games epitomized the structural problems that bedeviled the country for decades. It’s not just a question of how much money was spent on the Olympics, it’s also how it was spent and where it came from. After a period of austerity to tighten up its finances and qualify for euro entry in 2001, the Greek government loosened the purse strings once it entered the single currency. The games were just one of several areas where public spending was unchecked and funded by unsustainable borrowing.”

93 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 5, 2015 1:20:58pm

re: #89 Nyet

Democrats Boo God and Jerusalem

It’s all I ever do. I gargle with honey and lemon juice to keep from going hoarse.

94 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2015 1:21:50pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

Democrats booed God

This is a complete distortion of what happened, and wingnuts just keep circulating it anyway. They were booing because Villaraigosa went ahead and accepted a motion even though there were apparently the same number of “aye” and “no” votes. It had absolutely nothing to do with “booing God” or Jerusalem.

95 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 1:25:01pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, for fuck’s sake, Trump’s businesses have tanked at least 3 times where he left shareholders holding the bag, and yet he always comes out clean. Why the other GOP candidates oppo researchers haven’t brought that out is perhaps symbolic of the entire GOP political modus operandi , perhaps?

Perhaps. I would argue that the “average” person has no idea that Trump’s businesses have tanked, that he’s used bankruptcy to escape any personal pain and that his business practices are unethical at a minimum (see Trump University). I think those are the folks who have a rude awakening coming as they realize that his wealth isn’t the result of some amazing business acumen or intelligence. And I suspect that if he lasts long enough to attend a debate, the information will be used by the other candidates to trash Trump.

It’s going to be fun to watch.

96 KerFuFFler  Jul 5, 2015 1:28:47pm

re: #10 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trump and Walker are polling seven points behind Bush in New Hampshire. NH has one of the highest white-to-Hispanic ratios in the US, it’s 91% non-Hispanic white, so what’s driving Trump’s polling there?

Fear of the unknown.

97 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 1:38:53pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

This is a complete distortion of what happened, and wingnuts just keep circulating it anyway. They were booing because Villaraigosa went ahead and accepted a motion even though there were apparently the same number of “aye” and “no” votes. It had absolutely nothing to do with “booing God” or Jerusalem.

Wingnuts, ironically, seem to have no problems completely ignoring the truth in favor of their alternate reality.

98 lawhawk  Jul 5, 2015 1:39:08pm

re: #91 Nyet

Why would there be a stance on Jerusalem in any platform belonging to an American party?

Because Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act in 1995 that indicated that the embassy would move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. However, Clinton, Bush, and Obama have all had authority to delay that move for foreign policy reasons - and have continued to do so because it would undermine the nominal peace process between Israelis and Palestinians that Oslo had outlined on the final status of lands relating to 1967 outside the Green Line.

99 dholmes32  Jul 5, 2015 1:42:49pm

re: #53 jaunte

Apparently people on Twitter are upset with Dave Weigel for tweeting a Jon NcNaughton painting yesterday.

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There’s a place near me that sells McNaughton’s junk. Every time I think of him, I try to picture the Cthulhu version of McNaughton’s “One Nation Under God.”

100 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2015 1:47:38pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As is Alabama’s.

Alabama’s government is not a national government, and most of its social welfare and retirement programs are handled by the Federal government. If the Eurozone worked like the United States, a single currency would make sense.

It doesn’t, so it doesn’t.

101 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2015 1:50:37pm
102 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 1:57:19pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

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Oh, jeez. Who forgot to lock the dumbass cage after the last feeding?!

103 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 2:03:27pm

A little humor for the coders:

Not a bug….
104 PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2015 2:07:28pm

re: #103 A Cranky One

I am not a coder. I do think that tag is a Pennsylvania tag. And I do like the old Bug. :)

105 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2015 2:09:45pm

re: #103 A Cranky One

A little humor for the coders:

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Reminds me of @bug_gwen. Her bio says she’s a bug AND a feature.

106 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 2:18:56pm

GoFundMe campaign for homeless man started after video of him playing Styx’s “Come Sail Away” on piano goes viral.

gofundme

107 Lidane  Jul 5, 2015 2:20:28pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

Mexican Laborer Delivers Devastating Response To Donald Trump In 58 Seconds — And Never Stops Working
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And in case anyone hadn’t mentioned it, the subtitles are DEFINITELY censored compared to what he’s actually saying.

108 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 2:20:51pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

This is a complete distortion of what happened, and wingnuts just keep circulating it anyway. They were booing because Villaraigosa went ahead and accepted a motion even though there were apparently the same number of “aye” and “no” votes. It had absolutely nothing to do with “booing God” or Jerusalem.

No doubt that’s why they’re only using a static screenshot instead of linking to a video or article that provides context—and no one will investigate it further.

109 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 5, 2015 2:25:46pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Try this out:

memegenerator.net

110 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2015 2:29:17pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel

Somehow the RWNJ’s “open carry cowboy” fantasy meshes nicely with their “Lost Cause of the Confederacy” and “I could be John Galt” fantasies.

Also known as “Meanest Son Of A Bitch In The Valley” Syndrome.

111 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 5, 2015 2:33:54pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

The guy is a real nasty piece of work. Lots of stuff on his timeline of butt fucking fags hurr hurr hurr

112 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2015 2:35:02pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, for fuck’s sake, Trump’s businesses have tanked at least 3 times where he left shareholders holding the bag, and yet he always comes out clean. Why the other GOP candidates oppo researchers haven’t brought that out is perhaps symbolic of the entire GOP political modus operandi , perhaps?

If they did that they would practically be questioning whether what the US calls capitalism is a good thing. To do so would place them squarely, in the minds of the wingnuts, in the Communist camp since there is only Communism and capitalism as far they are concerned.

Any GOP candidate that questioned ‘capitalism’ would be dead, and probably literally.

113 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 2:35:25pm

He is incredibly banal, obnoxious, immature, and has virtually nothing of interest or value to offer.

John Lydon has issues as well.

114 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 5, 2015 2:44:43pm

Been for a nice 20 mile bike ride, now I’m going relax with a movie. Thinking “The ProfessionalAfter her parents are brutally murdered, Natalie Portman vows vengeance and becomes the protege of professional assassin Jean Reno.

I’m pretty much a Jean Reno fan, think he brings a nice understatement to most parts.

RBS

115 Amory Blaine  Jul 5, 2015 2:49:34pm

The fable Trump’s touting, “successful people can’t run for potus” is a move to claim victimhood status for his own poor choice.

116 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 5, 2015 2:50:28pm

re: #114 RealityBasedSteve

Great Flick. I remember owning the VHS.

117 PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2015 2:51:39pm

I will be watching Poldark later this evening.

118 sagehen  Jul 5, 2015 2:51:53pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

Like Warren, Sanders says things that sound great and nice. Problem is, they have little in the way of legislation that backs it up. All hat, no cattle as they say.

Key & Peele spoiler (season premiere, this Wed) (on topic, I promise)

Elizabeth Warren is Hillary Clinton’s anger translator

119 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 5, 2015 2:54:11pm

re: #114 RealityBasedSteve

Gary Oldman really shines too. It’s always been one of my favorites.

120 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2015 2:58:43pm
121 Death Panel Truck  Jul 5, 2015 2:59:54pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

No he shouldn’t. He should escalate, loudly and publicly.

Absolutely. A Trump-Christie free-for-all will be awesome. I’m stocking up on the popcorn. “Fuck You!” “No, fuck YOU!”

An epic meltdown.

122 sagehen  Jul 5, 2015 3:00:19pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

I will be watching Poldark later this evening.

I watched the first two eps, enjoying it so far.

123 PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2015 3:01:20pm

re: #122 sagehen

I like it too. It is much easier to follow that Wolf Hall. It is a good story. :)

124 urbanmeemaw  Jul 5, 2015 3:05:12pm

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The article he linked to was excellent. I really didn’t know much at all about what was going on in Greece but the writer laid it out very well.

125 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 3:24:46pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

Hi Frog Lady!

126 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2015 3:29:21pm

re: #125 #FergusonFireside

Hi Frog Lady!

Ribbit.

127 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 3:32:50pm
128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 3:33:58pm
129 Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2015 3:38:21pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

SNOPES: DID DEMOCRATS BOO G-D?

No.

Maybe the RNC will let the local LGBT group supply gift baskets to their convention? Just to show those dems.

130 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 3:38:56pm

Yes, SteveMcGhazi, I’m a fair weathered noob.

But I don’t think the cheer is in anyway less.

131 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 3:39:13pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

The other bad news is Jebby most likely had to have meetings with strategists to determine what stance to take and how to put into words so as to not piss off too many of the party’s rabid base of wingnut.

To me Jeb isn’t showing he is quick on his feet. What does that say about quick thinking while on the job. Not good.

Same problem many of them have had. It took them days to figure out what to say. And then of course you have those like Cruz that still can’t bring themselves to do anything.

That problem is going to be the Republican’s probably through the whole election cycle for 2016. They kissed crazy too much and now they can’t kiss ‘em off.

I don’t agree. The nature of presidential elections nowadays is that the candidate never does the ‘rapid response’; that task is left to people slightly below the campaign’s top echelon: People high enough that the press will go to them but just low enough that they can be thrown under the bus if they piss off too many people or if the campaign needs to make a personnel change to allay concerns of communications difficulties.

For Jeb to say anything right after Trump’s Mega-DERP would have been risky, and modern primaries are not won by taking risks.

132 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 3:47:20pm

Alexi Lalas is excited LOL.

133 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 3:47:27pm

re: #130 #FergusonFireside

Yes, SteveMcGhazi, I’m a fair weathered noob.

But I don’t think the cheer is in anyway less.

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134 William Lewis  Jul 5, 2015 3:52:19pm

The best thing about women’s football is that they’re as good as athletes and have overall much better standards of sportsmanship. If this is how people learn about real football, they’ll get a stellar introduction to the beautiful game.

Here’s hoping for another shutout to make their playing time since an opponent’s goal over 600 minutes.

This is why I don’t miss the NFL.

135 The Ghost of the Abomination Colors  Jul 5, 2015 3:52:49pm

re: #117 PhillyPretzel

I will be watching Poldark later this evening.

Set in Cornwall.

So presumably the lead gets punched in the kidneys for a decade or so, then dies of a coal-mining related injury.

I jest. It’s good.

Also, I have never encountered a BBC period piece where so much time and energy has been devoted to enthusiasm for the lead actor’s shirtlessness.

136 gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2015 3:53:28pm

re: #89 Nyet

So they are lying about that too, what are the odds?

137 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 3:56:05pm

Well, watching Abby right there is amaze. Go USA Women!

138 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:01:20pm

Mrs Cranky is a big fan. Hope it’s a good game. Go USA!

139 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 4:02:26pm

Dana thinks somebody is “stalking” her, so she keeps Tweeting at him

140 PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2015 4:04:07pm

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

So Dana stop tweeting the “stalker.” This is another reason not to tweet.

141 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:05:23pm

We scored.

Again.

142 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:05:44pm

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL! US scores.

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL! US scores AGAIN!

143 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:06:32pm

!O.o!

2 Goals in five minutes!

So much boot on Carly Lloyd. Our ladies are coming out strong.

Japan’s defense better find another gear or this is going to be a rout.

144 Jenner7  Jul 5, 2015 4:07:34pm

Holy poop! Not even 6 minutes and they scored 2! WTG USA!

145 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:07:45pm

re: #141 #FergusonFireside

We scored.

Again.

What! I haven’t even turned the game on yet! Two goals within the first 5 minutes of the game, holy crap.

146 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2015 4:08:55pm

Come on girls. Don’t let up.

147 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 4:08:58pm

re: #142 A Cranky One

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL! US scores.

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL! US scores AGAIN!

Well hockey’s off for the summer, so somebody had to fill in for the Blackhawks and put on a clinic on how to run up the score. [smiles]

148 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:10:22pm

re: #145 thedopefishlives

What! I haven’t even turned the game on yet! Two goals within the first 5 minutes of the game, holy crap.

I watched the Abby video in full. It mattered.

149 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:10:33pm

I think Japan’s big fuckup was selecting for possession instead of position when they won the coin toss. Their goalkeeper and defense are working with the sun in their eyes.

150 Cheechako  Jul 5, 2015 4:11:42pm

re: #141 #FergusonFireside

We scored.

Again.

Linky?

151 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:11:55pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

I think Japan’s big fuckup was selecting for possession instead of position when they won the coin toss. Their goalkeeper and defense are working with the sun in their eyes.

I would think they could and have handled the sun.

152 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:12:13pm

For a notoriously low-scoring sport like soccer, I can’t imagine two goals within 5 minutes being anything except massively demoralizing for Japan. I mean, there’s 75-80 minutes left to play and they’re already in a deep hole.

153 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 4:12:35pm

Watching this game without someone here to tell me why it isn’t any good is disappointing.

Wait, did I say disappointing? I meant LOVELY.

154 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:12:49pm

re: #150 Cheechako

Linky?

Nothing realistic, first thing on my feed that would work

155 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 4:13:14pm

What are some good movies on Netflix? I like thrillers, mysteries & comedies.

156 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:14:31pm

re: #151 #FergusonFireside

I would think they could and have handled the sun.

It’s already at a low angle, right in their eyes. It’s a pretty serious disadvantage.

3rd Goal as I’m typing . See what I mean?

157 Cheechako  Jul 5, 2015 4:14:52pm

re: #154 #FergusonFireside

I was looking for an on-line link to the game.

158 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:15:06pm

re: #157 Cheechako

I was looking for an on-line link to the game.

espnfc.com

159 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:15:22pm

re: #157 Cheechako

I was looking for an on-line link to the game.

GD Frank has it FRANK

160 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:15:25pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Well hockey’s off for the summer, so somebody had to fill in for the Blackhawks and put on a clinic on how to run up the score. [smiles]

Never had much interest in soccer football or hockey until I met Mrs Cranky, who is a big fan of both. Learned to appreciate both over time and as my understanding of the games increased. Both games are really fast paced compared to the baseball and American football; only basketball has a similar pace but even there play is more fragmented than in hockey or football.

And the US scores a third GOOOOAAAAALLLLL!

161 Cheechako  Jul 5, 2015 4:15:36pm

re: #158 thedopefishlives

Thank you!!!

162 Lidane  Jul 5, 2015 4:16:57pm

Who is livestreaming the World Cup final please? Boyfriend is watching a movie on TV.

163 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:17:03pm

re: #160 A Cranky One

I’m still not that into football (of either variety), but hockey has been growing on me a little bit over the last couple of years. Living in the far northern reaches has started to affect my mind.

164 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:17:05pm

The US just scored a 4th goal. This is unreal.

165 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:17:06pm

That ball was popped up and then kicked right over the Japanese goalkeepers head.

4th Goal from very long range just now.

This is really fucking sad. Lloyd kicked that shot from beyond the midfield line.

166 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:18:20pm

The next 72 minutes are just gravy.

167 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:18:34pm

re: #164 A Cranky One

The US just scored a 4th goal. This is unreal.

I saw the 3rd goal, tabbed over to LGF, and saw the comments appear about a 4th goal. This is just absurd. Everyone was expecting a match, and instead they’re getting a blowout.

168 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 4:18:37pm

This is what the Germany/Brazil men’s semifinal last summer was like. A legitimately good team has simply been shellshocked by a better team unleashing a massive attack.

And yes, the Japanese are in need of protection.

169 b_sharp  Jul 5, 2015 4:20:19pm

OK, who paid the Japanese team to take a fall?

TRUMP!!!

170 Cheechako  Jul 5, 2015 4:21:17pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

The next 72 minutes are just gravy.

Do you have a live link to the game or is it pay-per-view?

171 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:21:42pm

Right about now England is wondering how in the hell they lost to this Japanese team.

172 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 4:22:01pm
173 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:22:05pm

re: #169 b_sharp

OK, who paid the Japanese team to take a fall?

TRUMP!!!

But according to Trump, when has the US ever beat Japan at anything?

174 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:22:38pm

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

Right about now England is wondering how in the hell they lost to this Japanese team.

I think they know exactly what happened there, unfortunately.

175 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:23:16pm

re: #170 Cheechako

Do you have a live link to the game or is it pay-per-view?

It’ll be on your local Fox station. You can live stream it here.

176 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 4:23:50pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

The good news is that the guy polling ahead of Trump is attacking trump for his nasty remarks. The bad news is that his surname is Bush.

And with Jeb Bush acting as Big Dog, Rick Perry follows him against Donald Trump as Me-Too:

Rick Perry has joined the chorus of current and former Republican presidential candidates condemning Donald Trump over comments the real estate mogul made about Mexican immigrants.

“Donald Trump does not represent the Republican Party,” the former Texas governor said on ABC News’ “This Week” on Sunday. “I was offended by his remarks.”

During a speech last month launching his campaign, Trump vowed to build a wall between Mexico and the United States to keep Mexican criminals and “rapists” from crossing the border.

“They are bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they are rapists,” Trump said. “And some are good people.”

“Hispanics in America and Hispanics in Texas, from the Alamo to Afghanistan, have been extraordinary people, citizens of our country and of our state,” Perry said. “To paint with that broad a brush that Donald Trump did … he’s going to have to defend those remarks. I never will. And I will stand up and say that those are offensive, which they were.”

Since Rick Perry once again in his life followed along in the wake of a member of the Bush family, he gets no credit from me for going after Donald Trump. However, neither does Perry suffer the odium of being associated with Trump’s bigoted words, since he condemned those words sufficiently.

177 Lidane  Jul 5, 2015 4:24:39pm

Better solution: kick the boyfriend off the TV. He can finish his movie later.

Haha.

178 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 4:24:44pm
179 b_sharp  Jul 5, 2015 4:27:30pm

It’s only sockball, people.

Not like it’s hockey.

180 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2015 4:28:24pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Since Rick Perry once again in his life followed along in the wake of a member of the Bush family, he gets no credit from me for going after Donald Trump. However, neither does Perry suffer the odium of being associated with Trump’s bigoted words, since he condemned those words sufficiently.

This is nearly certain to be my first and last pro-Rick Perry post, but he has been on the saner side of the GOP spectrum on immigration issues since the last cycle. That cost him some support then…along with the fact he appeared to be crazy and/or stupid a number of times.

181 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:29:01pm

Japan has settled down and started to play their game at their pace. And they just scored, so it looks like it might be a game. Lots of time left.

182 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2015 4:29:13pm
183 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2015 4:29:53pm
184 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:31:00pm

Japan finally finding that second gear, put one on the board.

To put the difference between having the sun in your eyes and working in open shade in perspective, the Japanese goalkeeper is working with 4 stops (sixteen times) more light in her eyes.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 4:31:30pm
186 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:32:49pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

The next 72 minutes are just gravy.

ya think?

187 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:33:51pm

re: #186 #FergusonFireside

ya think?

Gravy with chunks apparently.

Japan forced to use one of their substitutions early.

188 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:34:49pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Gravy with chunks apparently.

Japan forced to use one of their substitutions early.

lol chunks.

189 Snarknado!  Jul 5, 2015 4:35:04pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

What are some good movies on Netflix? I like thrillers, mysteries & comedies.

I’ve been watching Foyle’s War (made for TV), mysteries set during WW2 in England. Very good and well-made so far.

190 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:38:50pm

Two Japanese players just tried to throw balls in simultaneously. That was cute.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 4:39:49pm

heh

192 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:40:17pm

Japan using up their second of three substitutions, desperately trying to reformulate.

193 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:41:09pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Japan using up their second of three substitutions, desperately trying to reformulate.

Not going to have any fresh legs left if they stage a comeback late in the second half.

194 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:42:19pm

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

Two Japanese players just tried to throw balls in simultaneously. That was cute.

Really though, that was indicative of the lack of communication going on on their side.

195 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:42:29pm

For the lizards who don’t follow soccer/football, the US and Japanese womens teams are playing for the world championship.

The score is currently US 4, JPN 1.

For perspective, the game for third place had a score of 1-0 (in overtime).
Semi-final games had scores of 2-0 and 2-1.

So more goals have been scored in this game than both previous games combined.

196 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 4:42:50pm

re: #189 Snarknado!

I’ve been watching Foyle’s War (made for TV), mysteries set during WW2 in England. Very good and well-made so far.

OMG Zedushka totally LOVES THAT SHOW.

I like contemporary stuff.

197 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:45:26pm

The home crowd advantage we have is crazy audible.

198 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2015 4:46:11pm
Avast!

The Dread Pirate Roberts Seagull Stanley leaves no survivors!

199 Lidane  Jul 5, 2015 4:46:30pm
200 Chan Kobun  Jul 5, 2015 4:47:03pm

I’ve told myself there are three things I want to see in sports before I die:
A World Cup win for the US
A Triple Crown winner
A Cubs World Series win

We’re on track!

201 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:47:41pm

That’s the half. Our ladies now get to experience 15 minutes of their coach screaming “DON’T GET COCKY” over and over again.

202 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2015 4:47:50pm

re: #200 Chan Kobun

I’ve told myself there are three things I want to see in sports before I die:
A World Cup win for the US
A Triple Crown winner
A Cubs World Series win

We’re on track!

A good choice for living forever.

/

203 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 4:48:47pm

And speaking of the South I have some good news, and some bad but expected news. First the good news:

Bubba Watson to paint over Confederate flag on General Lee

Bubba Watson has owned the General Lee from the 1970s and ’80s TV show “The Dukes of Hazzard” since 2012. On Thursday evening, Watson, who bought the car at auction for $110,000 and restored its interior, announced he is making a drastic change to the car’s appearance. Watson tweeted he’ll paint over the Confederate battle flag on the car’s roof.

Watson announced the change on Twitter:

But back in 2012, Watson sang a different tune:

In February 2012, Watson had offered to drive the General Lee, which he has driven to past PGA Tour events, to a NASCAR race in Phoenix. The auto-racing body denied Watson’s offer, consistent with their long-held views on the Confederate flag.

“The show was not racist. But I understand why people would get upset with the flag,” Watson said in February 2012 at the Northern Trust Open in the wake of NASCAR’s decision.

“Obviously, I don’t stand for the Confederate flag,” Watson added. “The Confederate flag was not used (in the show) for what people see it as today, so that’s sad. But NASCAR was built on moonshining, so the show was built on moonshining. I thought it was fun. I didn’t buy the car to get publicity; I bought it because I love it.”

So this is a flip flop for Bubba Watson. But you know what? I’m OK with that. Sometimes, given human nature, it takes something very tragic for us to see things as they really are. “The Dukes of Hazzard” didn’t use the Confederate flag as a hate symbol, but it is used as such by some people, most recently by a horrendous murderer.

Under those circumstances, Watson is right to get rid of the Stars and Bars. The name ‘General Lee’ can remain, for Lee was not a hater and though a rebel he was never a terrorist.

204 Snarknado!  Jul 5, 2015 4:49:04pm

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

OMG Zedushka totally LOVES THAT SHOW.

I like contemporary stuff.

The only contemporary mystery I’ve watched lately is the new Sherlock Holmes, but I don’t know if it’s streamable. Shows how behind I am.

205 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:49:47pm

re: #200 Chan Kobun

I’ve told myself there are three things I want to see in sports before I die:
A World Cup win for the US
A Triple Crown winner
A Cubs World Series win

We’re on track!

The first looks likely.
The second you’ve seen.
The third may take a while, because global warming will reduce the possibility of hell freezing over.

206 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 4:50:22pm

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

That’s the half. Our ladies now get to experience 15 minutes of their coach screaming “DON’T GET COCKY” over and over again.

Their coach is Harrison Ford? Well, that would fit given that Team USA Shot First. :D

207 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 4:52:30pm

re: #198 Feline Fearless Leader

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The Dread Pirate Roberts Seagull Stanley leaves no survivors!

Never. No.

Squak!

208 William Lewis  Jul 5, 2015 4:52:37pm

Wild. The Japanese had possession 51% of the half and the score is 4 - 1? This really is insane.

209 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 4:53:15pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

*WHACK!*

210 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2015 4:53:24pm

re: #207 #FergusonFireside

Never. No.

Squak!

QUICK, RUN FOR IT. SHE’S REVERTING!

;)

211 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 4:53:48pm
212 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 4:53:53pm

re: #205 A Cranky One

The first looks likely.
The second you’ve seen.
The third may take a while, because global warming will reduce the possibility of hell freezing over.

The Cubs have won five of their last six and they have a winning record. They won’t beat the Cardinals (unless Major League Baseball issues some sort of draconian sanction on St. Louis for its hacking of the Houston Astros), but the wildcard berth is a real possibility.

The 2015 Cubs are going to have a winning record and they may make the playoffs. So North Siders have some hope, because This Year really might be ‘Next Year’.

213 William Lewis  Jul 5, 2015 4:54:45pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

Their coach is Harrison Ford? Well, that would fit given that Team USA Shot First. :D

Problem with that is that Solo’s the goalie…

214 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2015 4:54:49pm

So much for Minnesota Nice…..

Fire truck flies Confederate flag alongside U.S. flag in Albert Lea holiday parade
Parade sponsor said flying the flag was “unfortunate” but will “essentially be forgotten” in a couple of days.

215 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 4:56:11pm

re: #207 #FergusonFireside

Never. No.

Squak!

But did the original Dread Seagull Stanley retire to a life of luxury and pass along the title?

216 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 4:56:40pm

re: #130 #FergusonFireside

Yes, SteveMcGhazi, I’m a fair weathered noob.

But I don’t think the cheer is in anyway less.

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Here I am. I turned the game on, just as somebody scored the third goal. I turn around for a second, and somebody scores again! It reminded me of that Brazilian game a couple years ago where the Germans (I think) couldn’t help but score. I love a blowout.
Anyway, I don’t know what a noob is, but somebody who’s a fair weathered fan has a whole in their soul. Me, I rejoiced in the Phillies’ win today. I was disgusted that the SIxers tanked, I’m a Flyers fan even though they spurned my offer to be their goaltender coach gratis, and I’m still an Eagles fan, though I’m uneasy about the health risks to the players I root for.

217 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2015 4:58:29pm

Great Obama Mix of speech from “Independence Day”

218 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 4:58:57pm

Two things in this game I’ve literally never seen before:

1.) A goal scored from the midfield line directly over a keeper inside the penalty box.

2.) Two players on the same team throw in two balls simultaneously.

219 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2015 4:59:12pm

re: #215 A Cranky One

But did the original Dread Seagull Stanley retire to a live of luxury and pass along the title?

Where’s the waiter with my beer?
220 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 4:59:25pm

re: #200 Chan Kobun

I’ve told myself there are three things I want to see in sports before I die:
A World Cup win for the US
A Triple Crown winner
A Cubs World Series win

We’re on track!

I was about to say you were doomed until I got to the Cubs. Go ahead and buy those green bananas.

221 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 5:01:07pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

I do need to note Bubba Watson’s decision to rid the General Lee of its Confederate Flag has gotten him DERPed at on Twitter from the usual suspects. A sample:

Then we have this charmer, whom I blocked and suggest everyone else here do the same:

And finally we have this tweet getting sadbagged by someone who actually understands the issue:

222 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 5:01:35pm

re: #214 Eric The Fruit Bat

So much for Minnesota Nice…..

Yeah, I saw this. We do have rednecks up here in the wild north country, unfortunately. No place is perfect.

223 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:02:23pm

re: #215 A Cranky One

But did the original Dread Seagull Stanley retire to a life of luxury and pass along the title?

She’s still here.

224 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:03:26pm

re: #216 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Here I am. I turned the game on, just as somebody scored the third goal. I turn around for a second, and somebody scores again! It reminded me of that Brazilian game a couple years ago where the Germans (I think) couldn’t help but score. I love a blowout.
Anyway, I don’t know what a noob is, but somebody who’s a fair weathered fan has a whole in their soul. Me, I rejoiced in the Phillies’ win today. I was disgusted that the SIxers tanked, I’m a Flyers fan even though they spurned my offer to be their goaltender coach gratis, and I’m still an Eagles fan, though I’m uneasy about the health risks to the players I root for.

That means I’m OK. Yes, that’s how I’m a gonna take it.

Peace & soccer/football to ya.

225 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 5:03:54pm

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

The Cubs have won five of their last six and they have a winning record. They won’t beat the Cardinals (unless Major League Baseball issues some sort of draconian sanction on St. Louis for its hacking of the Houston Astros), but the wildcard berth is a real possibility.

The 2015 Cubs are going to have a winning record and they may make the playoffs. So North Siders have some hope, because This Year really might be ‘Next Year’.

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226 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2015 5:05:17pm

re: #225 A Cranky One

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227 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 5:07:37pm

And for the Bad But Predictable News, we turn to NASCAR’s fans:

NASCAR fans defend, display Confederate flags at Daytona

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. — Steven Rebenstorf has numerous flags flying atop his canopy tent inside Daytona International Speedway.

The Confederate flag is front and center.

It’s been like that for years. And the 57-year-old Rebenstorf has no plans to take it down — not even if NASCAR decides to ban the embattled flag from its racetracks.

“They’d have to come and get it,” Rebenstorf said Saturday, pointing out that his American flag purposely flies a few inches higher than the rest.

MELON LABEL!

And for the excuse that guy offered:

“The Confederate flag has absolutely nothing to do with slavery. It has nothing to do with divisiveness. It has nothing to do with any of that,” Rebenstorf said, pausing for a few minutes to pull off his floppy hat, stand at attention and salute during the national anthem Saturday. “It was just a battle banner until the Ku Klux Klan draped it around themselves. Now, all of a sudden, it represents slavery and that’s not at all true.”

228 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:09:15pm

Now Hope Solo is in the sun.
:(

229 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 5:09:34pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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230 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 5:09:37pm

I’m gonna leave this here in case anyone gets bored and feels like taking a mind-bending journey into Outer Wingnuttia: littlegreenfootballs.com

231 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:10:04pm

Shit, header own goal off Johnston. 4-2 now.

232 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:10:13pm

re: #230 CuriousLurker

upding, but nah.

233 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 5:10:47pm

re: #225 A Cranky One

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I’m familiar with the Curse. I eat and the Billy Goat Tavern location on Lake Street between Michigan and Wabash at least once a week lately, and before I changed jobs I was doing that at the location in the Merchandise Mart. So don’t go sayin’ you and yours and more ‘Suffering Cubs Fan’ than me, boyo!

/Kidding on that last sentence.

234 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 5:11:01pm

re: #232 #FergusonFireside

upding, but nah.

LOL—chicken!

235 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2015 5:11:15pm

US goal off a corner. 5-2.

236 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:11:47pm

yassssssssssssss

237 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2015 5:11:49pm

re: #229 A Cranky One

If I ever want to expand my vocabulary, I call my grandfather while the Packers are losing.

238 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:12:01pm

Fuck yes! Heath claps back. 5-2.

239 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:12:56pm

I always told my players that if you’re in your own net, you’re out of position.

240 Dark_Falcon  Jul 5, 2015 5:13:07pm

re: #235 Feline Fearless Leader

US goal off a corner. 5-2.

Now, right there is how its done: They score a goal, we run another goal off a corner and in. That’s the Chicago Way, that’s how you win championships!

241 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:13:45pm

What was the over/under for this game?

242 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 5, 2015 5:15:55pm

re: #241 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

What was the over/under for this game?

no idea, but I’m positive that it’s on the Over now.

RBS

243 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:16:52pm

Vancouver is the most beaut of a city too. Lucky.

244 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:17:48pm

How’d you like to be the anouncer? OK we have a game now —-

245 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:19:10pm

Any lizards remember Soccer Made in Germany that used to air on PBS in the late 70s early 80s?

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 5:19:55pm
247 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 5, 2015 5:24:31pm

From the Georgia Aquarium….

248 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 5:25:45pm

I doubt most coaches have a strategy for overcoming a 3 point deficit, especially at this level of play. It just doesn’t happen that often. Play right now is more what I was expecting for the entire game.

249 Lidane  Jul 5, 2015 5:25:51pm

Sure. Just like a terminally ill patient should incorporate the healthy parts of cancer:

250 jaunte  Jul 5, 2015 5:27:12pm

re: #249 Lidane

‘Healthy’ Parts of Trump Campaign: Escalator entrances.

251 Belafon  Jul 5, 2015 5:27:59pm

re: #249 Lidane

Sure. Just like a terminally ill patient should incorporate the healthy parts of cancer:

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All Republican men should get living topees.

252 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 5, 2015 5:28:48pm

this game is awesome from a U.S. perspective.

253 A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2015 5:29:01pm

re: #249 Lidane

Sure. Just like a terminally ill patient should incorporate the healthy parts of cancer:

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When Kristol or Dick Morris advocate something, doing the exact opposite is always the best course.

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2015 5:29:28pm
255 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 5, 2015 5:30:03pm

I was joking with a co-worker (we’re texting as the game is on) that if we win it will almost be the soccer equivalent of our victory in WWII. First we beat Germany then we beat Japan.

(and yes I know we had help etc).

256 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:30:36pm

re: #249 Lidane

Sure. Just like a terminally ill patient should incorporate the healthy parts of cancer:

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He’s a prick, but he wipes his ass.

Really?

257 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2015 5:31:56pm
My internet is slooooowwww!
258 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:32:00pm

Looks like Wambach is getting ready to come in soon.

259 b_sharp  Jul 5, 2015 5:33:33pm

re: #243 #FergusonFireside

Vancouver is the most beaut of a city too. Lucky.

That’s likely to change when the new Trump Tower is done.

At least for my kid.

260 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:37:12pm

Y’all must watch the Abby interview posted up above.

261 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:39:45pm

re: #249 Lidane

Sure. Just like a terminally ill patient should incorporate the healthy parts of cancer:

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Actually, perversely, it gives the candidates a chance to appear noble by condemning Trump (with a wink wink, nod nod)

262 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:40:06pm

Curses! New thread!

263 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:40:23pm

Cup people stay in this thread?

264 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:42:44pm

re: #263 #FergusonFireside

Cup people stay in this thread?

Yeah, fuck Hoft.

265 Amory Blaine  Jul 5, 2015 5:44:00pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

Joe Dirt

266 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 5:44:06pm

Two yellow cards in the last 3 minutes of play. Japan must be getting desperate.

267 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:45:25pm

Japan player injured but they’ve used up all their subs. Playing one player down now.

268 The War TARDIS  Jul 5, 2015 5:48:04pm

3 minutes to go.

269 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:48:22pm

FIFA say no to racism.

Just saw that.

270 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:50:11pm

Japan just flopping all over our box now trying to draw penalties. Sad.

271 thedopefishlives  Jul 5, 2015 5:50:37pm

re: #270 goddamnedfrank

Japan just flopping all over our box now trying to draw penalties. Sad.

Somebody call the wahhhhmbulance.

272 The War TARDIS  Jul 5, 2015 5:50:40pm

WE won!!!

273 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2015 5:51:00pm

Boom. That’s it. Winner winner chicken dinner.

274 William Lewis  Jul 5, 2015 5:51:43pm

5 - 2 in a final. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a score like that at this level of play.

275 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:53:58pm

re: #274 William Lewis

5 - 2 in a final. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a score like that at this level of play.

I think the Germans did worse to Brazil a couple of years ago (and Brazil was the host nation) Everything went right and everything went wrong. That and the defense never got their stuff together.

276 Chan Kobun  Jul 5, 2015 5:54:43pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

So this is a flip flop for Bubba Watson. But you know what? I’m OK with that. Sometimes, given human nature, it takes something very tragic for us to see things as they really are. “The Dukes of Hazzard” didn’t use the Confederate flag as a hate symbol, but it is used as such by some people, most recently by a horrendous murderer.

Yeah, you know what we call that? Not a “flip flop”, because that’s rightist shit. No, we call it “changing one’s opinion based on evidence”.

277 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:56:49pm

The commercial now.

American Woman.

Oh yeah

278 #FergusonFireside  Jul 5, 2015 5:57:08pm

nike

279 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 5, 2015 5:57:50pm

re: #276 Chan Kobun

The way I thought of it was the guy just didn’t give it (the flag) enough thought. I think people were so used to seeing it that they probably accepted the heritage BS and stopped there.

280 jayjaybear  Jul 6, 2015 4:42:12pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Yes. And Republicans booed a combat vet during their presidential debates.


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