North Carolina Pastors Raise “Christian Flag” Above US Flag

“The Lord just laid on me”
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Two Baptist pastors in North Carolina’s Cleveland County have decided it would be a great idea to raise a “Christian flag” above the American flag. Who knew there was a “Christian flag?”

Yes, these are the same people who freak out if anyone looks cross-eyed at a US flag, and are throwing huge tantrums over taking down the Confederate battle flag from the South Carolina statehouse grounds.

Pastor Rit Varriale said, “Our typical flag etiquette is to have the American flag above the Christian flag. But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to God first, then our commitment to country.”

Fellow pastor Walter Wilson helpfully explained that he’s been hearing disembodied voices commanding him to do things like this: “As I was changing the rope one day, the Lord just laid on me that he is first and when he told me that, I switched the flags around.”

And of course, the main impetus behind this bizarre idea is the Supreme Court’s ruling making same sex marriage legal throughout the US; the ruling that has apparently driven most of the religious right over the cliffs of insanity.

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1 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 10:45:58am

I highly doubt most liberals will give a rat’s ass what these people do with their own flags. OTOH, can you imagine the rightwing freakout if a mosque did something like this.

2 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 10:46:44am
Pastor Rit Varriale said, “Our typical flag etiquette is to have the American flag above the Christian flag. But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to God first, then our commitment to country.”

Typical etiquette says religious institution aren’t taxed, but when you think about how much they influence politics, why shouldn’t they be?

3 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 10:47:09am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

I highly doubt most liberals will give a rat’s ass what these people do with their own flags. OTOH, can you imagine the rightwing freakout if a mosque did something like this.

Beat me to it.

“But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to God first, then our commitment to country.”
Let a Muslim say that.

4 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 10:47:34am

American Taliban.

5 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 10:48:31am
6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 10:48:44am
7 lawhawk  Jul 6, 2015 10:50:12am

Not typical flag etiquette, but federal law. 4 USC 1 et seq.

It specifically identifies the position and order of presentation:

(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag’s own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.

(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

(f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag’s right.

8 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 10:50:25am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

I highly doubt most liberals will give a rat’s ass what these people do with their own flags. OTOH, can you imagine the rightwing freakout if a mosque did something like this.

Absolutely. The double standards on faith and patriotism for American Muslims is a joke.

9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 10:50:49am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn bunch of G-d hating, abomination color gay libtards in that South Carolina legislature.

10 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 10:51:07am

re: #5 wrenchwench

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One of the best men in Washington.

11 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 10:51:47am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What utter cowardice, to try to pass the buck to the voters so as to avoid taking a stand on whether the flag should stay or not.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 10:53:21am

This is probably not a good thing:

13 Dr. Matt  Jul 6, 2015 10:54:12am

I normally do not try to speak for the Founding Fathers, but I’m 100% certain they would not approve of this.

14 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 10:54:45am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is probably not a good thing:

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Could be good news if you’re a whale.

15 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 10:54:49am

If not for Elijah Cummings, the BENGHAZI11TY!! hysteria would be even more rampant.

“Unfortunately, this is only the latest in a reckless pattern of selective Republican leaks and mischaracterizations of evidence relating to the Benghazi attacks…it now appears that someone who was given access to the Select Committee’s documents leaked doctored information to the press in order to make unsubstantiated allegations against Secretary Clinton….Since you have repeatedly refused my requests for the Select Committee to adopt rules — including protocols governing the release of documents obtained as part of the investigation — it is unclear how you propose to prevent this type of abuse from happening again in the future,”

dailykos.com

First Issa, now Gowdy. Poor Cummings has to be so damn sick of their bullshit. (And remember, President Lindsey Graham (heh) thinks Trey Gowdy would be an ideal Supreme Court Justice.)

16 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 10:55:03am

Are they trying to establish a ‘Christian State’? Should we call them ‘the self-styled CS’? Then do battle?

17 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 10:55:13am

If they had any decency they would have removed the flag years ago. So pathetic how some state governments aren’t even over the war yet. Bad enough when it’s a schmo on the streets.

18 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 10:55:15am

These are the same folks who go into AN UTTER FROTHING RAGE if they think POTUS hasn’t done enough bullshit flag photo ops.

But this is OK because it’s THEIR flag desecration.

19 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 10:55:58am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

These are the same folks who go into AN UTTER FROTHING RAGE if they think POTUS hasn’t done enough bullshit flag photo ops.

But this is OK because it’s THEIR flag desecration.

Right.

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 10:56:02am

SC leg looking for crumbs now:

21 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 10:56:35am

The Founding Fathers weren’t worried about Muslims when they adopted the First Amendment. They were concerned about the history of Christians oppressing other Christians.

22 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 10:57:12am
23 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 10:57:18am

re: #7 lawhawk

Not typical flag etiquette, but federal law. 4 USC 1 et seq.

It specifically identifies the position and order of presentation:

Well, if they are going to ignore the Supreme Court they might as well skip being concerned about proper flag placement.

24 Eventual Carrion  Jul 6, 2015 10:57:51am

Then pay your fucking land taxes.

25 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 10:58:03am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

26 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 10:58:38am

re: #22 Kragar

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Freedom to own slaves yes.

27 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 10:59:04am

There is a Frothing Outrage (because it is a Day ending in day!) over Hillary “roping the media into a corral”

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:00:28am
29 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:00:37am

re: #22 Kragar

Ted Cruz sure knows how to pick em

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30 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:00:49am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

SC leg looking for crumbs now:

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“Confederate Memorial Day”?

LOLOLOL

Does Germany have a “Gestapo Memorial Day”? Does Japan have a “Unit 731 Memorial Day”?

Gimme a break, FFS. What a bunch of pathetic reactionary assclowns.

31 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:01:24am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

“Confederate Memorial Day”?

LOLOLOL

Does Germany have a “Gestapo Memorial Day”? Does Japan have a “Unit 731 Memorial Day”?

Gimme a break, FFS. What a bunch of pathetic reactionary assclowns.

There isn’t even a Middle Passage Memorial Day

32 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 11:01:40am

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

There is a Frothing Outrage (because it is a Day ending in day!) over Hillary “roping the media into a corral”

“Nobody puts baby in a corral!”

33 Jay in Oregon  Jul 6, 2015 11:02:08am

re: #3 Drive By Commenter

Beat me to it.

“But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to God first, then our commitment to country.”
Let a Muslim say that.

“But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to Allah first, then our commitment to country,” Sheikh Fasil al-Hamman said.

No, I can’t imagine anyone having a prob— *trampled by Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh*

34 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 11:02:20am

re: #22 Kragar

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“Freedom”? Sure, the “freedom” to maintain slavery. It was pretty clearly spelled out in the Confederate constitution that states didn’t have the “freedom” to abolish slavery.

35 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:02:25am

Dana cranks up the Bigots Grift Machine

36 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 11:02:54am

re: #29 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ted Cruz sure knows how to pick em

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Does he have to pick them, or does he just sweep them up off the floor?

/

37 withak  Jul 6, 2015 11:03:03am

They can keep it, under the condition they rename it to “We Love Our Traitorous Ancestors Day.”

38 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 11:03:47am

Gay blog Joe My God is on a real roll today. Their ads are a bit NSFW, but the stories they have up are choice:

Ted Cruz: Obama Will Use Gay Marriage To Strip Churches Of Tax Exemptions

Ted Cruz Tops Breitbart “Primary” (this one is kind of jawdropping)

REPORT: Scott Walker’s Wife And Sons Disagree With Him On Same-Sex Marriage

TEXAS: Hood County Clerk Caves, Issues Marriage License To Gay Couple, Couple Won’t Drop Their Lawsuit

39 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:04:00am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Dana cranks up the Bigots Grift Machine

Is this Dana Gunz?

40 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:04:02am

re: #37 withak

They can keep it, under the condition they rename it to “We Love Our Traitorous Ancestors Day.”

Hah yes.

41 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:05:11am

re: #34 Targetpractice

“Freedom”? Sure, the “freedom” to maintain slavery. It was pretty clearly spelled out in the Confederate constitution that states didn’t have the “freedom” to abolish slavery.

And Freedom from the United States of America.

But Leftist Liberals in their Coastal Enclaves are the real traitors and America haters.

//

42 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:05:57am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

“Confederate Memorial Day”?

LOLOLOL

Does Germany have a “Gestapo Memorial Day”? Does Japan have a “Unit 731 Memorial Day”?

Gimme a break, FFS. What a bunch of pathetic reactionary assclowns.

It really is divisive. I don’t know of any other western country that celebrates its civil war loser like we do so many years after the loss.

43 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 11:06:12am

Goat from the 70s:

44 CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2015 11:07:13am

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

There is a Frothing Outrage (because it is a Day ending in day!) over Hillary “roping the media into a corral”

But I thought they hated the libtard lamestream enemedia…

45 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:07:18am

re: #43 wrenchwench

Goat from the 70s:

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Groovy goat.

46 lawhawk  Jul 6, 2015 11:09:25am
47 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:11:06am

Perutabo sighted over the weekend…

48 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:12:14am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

It really is divisive. I don’t know of any other western country that celebrates its civil war loser like we do so many years after the loss.

It’s ridiculous. I know there Japanese who deny the atrocities of Unit 731 and there are Germans who deny the Holocaust. They are, however, the fringe - and they certainly don’t have holidays to commemorate the defeat of their appalling ideologies.

I highly doubt anyone is going to erect any statues of Shiro Ishii or Reinhard Heydrich anytime soon.

49 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 11:13:54am

At least they were kind enough to let the United States know where their real loyalty lies.

50 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:13:55am
51 CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2015 11:14:46am

re: #46 lawhawk

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Firecrackers maybe?

52 Khal Wimpo  Jul 6, 2015 11:15:31am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

It’s ridiculous. I know there Japanese who deny the atrocities of Unit 731 and there are Germans who deny the Holocaust. They are, however, the fringe - and they certainly don’t have holidays to commemorate the defeat of their appalling ideologies.

I highly doubt anyone is going to erect any statues of Shiro Ishii or Reinhard Heydrich anytime soon.

Normally, I’d say, “I’m actually cool with that, as it allows us to more easily identify the really dogshit moron racists among us,” only it seems that the more you allow these dipshits to believe that their stunted anger&racism are somehow socially acceptable, the more deranged they feel empowered to get.

Would it be better to have a national moment every year when the totems of the Confederacy were systematically mocked and spat upon?

53 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 11:15:46am
“…And of course, the main impetus behind this bizarre idea is the Supreme Court’s ruling making same sex marriage legal throughout the US; the ruling that has apparently driven most of the religious right over the cliffs of insanity.”

Here’s a preview of the arguments of the rearguard action:

Couldn’t embed the tweet, for some reason

“If you consider yourself a Bible-believing Christian, a follower of Jesus whose chief aim is to glorify God and enjoy him forever, there are important questions I hope you will consider before picking up your flag and cheering on the sexual revolution.”
thegospelcoalition.org

54 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:16:55am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

It’s ridiculous. I know there Japanese who deny the atrocities of Unit 731 and there are Germans who deny the Holocaust. They are, however, the fringe - and they certainly don’t have holidays to commemorate the defeat of their appalling ideologies.

I highly doubt anyone is going to erect any statues of Shiro Ishii or Reinhard Heydrich anytime soon.

They have convinced themselves that their cause was not only noble but superior to the Union’s. I think Tardis actually made a good point a few weeks ago when he said that these people shit on those of us who had relatives who fought for the Union during the war. I know that’s how I feel when I see the CSA cause sugarcoated with bs and its generals made out to be holy men fighting a just but ultimately doomed cause.

55 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 11:17:07am

I often wonder what it’s like to be so delusional, but I don’t want to eat a quarter ounce of psilocybin mushrooms every day.

56 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 11:17:34am

Just started watching Key and Peele. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. There is a new episode on Wednesday.

57 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 11:17:59am

I’ve heard this one before:

“27. Will you speak out against shaming and bullying of all kinds, whether against gays and lesbians or against Evangelicals and Catholics?”

58 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:18:27am

re: #50 Kragar

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Ted really wants a FRC job when he gets his unemployed notice.

59 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:18:40am

WTF some guy on Twitter with the handle “Yudah Steinberg” and an avi of an IDF Nahal Haredi soldier is Tweeting links to Stormfront.

My guess is he’s not in the IDF.

Blocked & muted.

60 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:18:57am

re: #56 Jenner7

Just started watching Key and Peele. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. There is a new episode on Wednesday.

Love them.

61 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 11:19:21am

re: #47 Kragar

Is he carrying enough guns?

62 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:19:26am
63 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 11:19:27am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He collected 4 Million when the company was sold to Clorox and was a paid spokesman for them. That doesn’t bother me (I’d say he was underpaid) but I’ll bet it would annoy the twerp who made that graphic.

64 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:20:13am

re: #62 Kragar

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Stop likening taxes to forced slavery you pathetic fuck.

65 CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2015 11:20:33am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

It’s ridiculous. I know there Japanese who deny the atrocities of Unit 731 and there are Germans who deny the Holocaust. They are, however, the fringe - and they certainly don’t have holidays to commemorate the defeat of their appalling ideologies.

I highly doubt anyone is going to erect any statues of Shiro Ishii or Reinhard Heydrich anytime soon.

Seriously—I mean can you imagine Lebanon celebrating their civil war? Or, when thing are finally resolved in Syria, them celebrating theirs? Civil war are brutal & divisive, what’s to celebrate? *smh*

For 110 years, the numbers stood as gospel: 618,222 men died in the Civil War, 360,222 from the North and 258,000 from the South — by far the greatest toll of any war in American history.

But new research shows that the numbers were far too low.

By combing through newly digitized census data from the 19th century, J. David Hacker, a demographic historian from Binghamton University in New York, has recalculated the death toll and increased it by more than 20 percent — to 750,000. […]

nytimes.com

66 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:20:55am

re: #61 Romantic Heretic

Is he carrying enough guns?

Not sure, as I’m not seeing his missile launcher in those pics.

67 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 11:21:10am

re: #62 Kragar

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We need to have the GOP tax rates of Ike. Our industrial downfall started with Kennedy’s tax cuts.

68 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 11:21:14am

re: #53 jaunte

If you consider yourself a Bible-believing Christian, a follower of Jesus whose chief aim is to glorify God and enjoy him forever, there are important questions I hope you will consider before picking up your flag and cheering on the sexual revolution.

Um, guys? I think you might want to reword this.

God isn’t your property..

69 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:22:00am

re: #62 Kragar

So a 25% marginal tax is 25% slave, 10% marginal tax is 10% slave?
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Also too does Ayn Rand Paul know what a marginal tax rate is?

70 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:22:13am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

They have convinced themselves that their cause was not only noble but superior to the Union’s. I think Tardis actually made a good point a few weeks ago when he said that these people shit on those of us who had relatives who fought for the Union during the war. I know that’s how I feel when I see the CSA cause sugarcoated with bs and its generals made out to be holy men fighting a just but ultimately doomed cause.

It’s sick. And quite frankly, I simply can’t understand that kind of delusional thinking.

In regard to Unit 731 of the IJA, for those Lizards who may be unfamiliar with them, they were the bio/chem weapons research unit. Their “experiments” are the rival of only the Nazi doctors in the most abhorrent cruelty imaginable.

Yet Shiro Ishii, the head of Unit 731, was never tried for war crimes at the end of the war. He may well be one of the infamous - and monstrous - war criminals in modern history who genuinely ‘got away with it’.

71 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:22:18am

From the live blog about the SC flag:

.@vincentsheheen now talking about #Confederateflag, how he came out for it late last year, before his race for governor. …

(Note: Vincent came out for removing the flag)

.@vincentsheheen says some ppl were supportive, but some were not, incl @nikkihaley, who Sheheen said mocked him for making flag an issue.

@vincentsheheen says he raised #Confederateflag issue in campaign b/c SC “has got a problem, & if you don’t talk about it, it gets worse.”

.@vincentsheheen: these wounds we’ve been dealing with for 200 years. We’ve been pulling bandaid off slow.

thestate.com

And Vincent lost to Nikki in 2014 by an even bigger margin than he lost in 2010. Spit.

72 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 11:22:21am

Spaghetti bed head glibertarian has ideas!

73 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 6, 2015 11:22:51am

re: #62 Kragar

Rand Paul Philosophizes On Tax Rates: “If We Tax You At 50%, You Are Half Slave, Half Free”

If you were being taxed without representation and the ability to vote on tax rates and how they were spent, then RP would be dead on the money. But he is just spouting shit to please his followers and he knows it.

74 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:23:39am

re: #65 CuriousLurker

Seriously—I mean can you imagine Lebanon celebrating their civil war? Or, when thing are finally resolved in Syria, them celebrating theirs? Civil war are brutal & divisive, what’s to celebrate? *smh*

Chances were good if you were alive in that time, you would have lost a loved one during the war. it should never be glamorized.

75 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:23:46am
76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:23:54am

re: #57 jaunte

I think they really mean—

“27. Will you speak out against shaming and bullying of all kinds, whether against gays and lesbians or against Evangelicals and Catholics?”

77 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:24:26am

.@vincentsheheen If slavery was the original sin of America, then South Carolina is where we picked that fruit and ate it over & over again

78 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:24:37am

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

It’s sick. And quite frankly, I simply can’t understand that kind of delusional thinking.

In regard to Unit 731 of the IJA, for those Lizards who may be unfamiliar with them, they were the bio/chem weapons research unit. Their “experiments” are the rival of only the Nazi doctors in the most abhorrent cruelty imaginable.

Yet Shiro Ishii, the head of Unit 731, was never tried for war crimes at the end of the war. He may well be one of the infamous - and monstrous - war criminals in modern history who genuinely ‘got away with it’.

Need to read more about him and the Unit. Much more familiar with Nazi atrocities obviously.

79 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:26:23am

re: #69 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So a 25% marginal tax is 25% slave, 10% marginal tax is 10% slave?
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Also too does Ayn Rand Paul know what a marginal tax rate is?

HURR HURR TEH BILLIONAIRES IS TEH REAL SLAVES!!!!11!!!!

80 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 11:26:42am

re: #50 Kragar

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So if Havana Ted knows that majority of Americans don’t approve of gay marriage, how does he intend to show that when he’s declared that polls can be made to show whatever results you want?

81 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:27:21am

re: #22 Kragar

82 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:27:29am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Need to read more about him and the Unit. Much more familiar with Nazi atrocities obviously.

Unit 731 never really got the press that the Nazi doctors did. And the stuff Unit 731 did is truly insane. Observations on anthrax exposure, vivisection without anesthesia of full-term pregnant women, medical experiments on POW’s, etc.

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.

83 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 6, 2015 11:28:04am

re: #53 jaunte

Here’s a preview of the arguments of the rearguard action:

again, these people seem unable to distinguish between the Christian Sacrament of Holy Matrimony (in its variants within Christianity along with its analogues in other religions) and the civil status of marriage. The former is a matter of faith and doctrine and can be granted or denied as one sees fit, but the latter is the law of the land and must be recognized.

84 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 11:28:20am
85 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:28:20am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Unit 731 never really got the press that the Nazi doctors did. And the stuff Unit 731 did is truly insane. Observations on anthrax exposure, vivisection without anesthesia of full-term pregnant women, medical experiments on POW’s, etc.

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.

A shame really. I think Japanese war crimes deserve more discussion.

86 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 6, 2015 11:30:04am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

A shame really. I think Japanese war crimes deserve more discussion.

Try it in Japan and a bus full of enraged monarchists will show up at your door and start shouting you down.

87 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:30:18am

re: #81 Ace-o-aces

Cruz, and his PAC, has raised quite a bit of money, though.

88 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 11:30:42am
89 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:32:25am

Glibertarians, take a deep breath and repeat after me, “Taxes imposed by a freely elected government for the purposes of maintaining government services and promoting general welfare are NOT the same as slavery.”

90 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 11:32:25am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, Chucky is a “free speech” hero, which is why he regularly threatened his critics with lawsuits for saying things he didn’t like.

91 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:32:54am

Wingnuts are in a frothing rage (as usual) over this photo which is actually totes kewl:

92 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:33:59am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

A shame really. I think Japanese war crimes deserve more discussion.

They do, but as Wendell Z. pointed out, there’s plenty of Japanese who simply will brook no discussion on the matter whatsoever. End of story.

93 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 11:34:14am

I’m playing on ebay.

I’d like to screech like this sometimes.

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 6, 2015 11:34:56am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are in a frothing rage (as usual) over this photo which is actually totes kewl:

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Hmm, why four men and not include any women?

95 withak  Jul 6, 2015 11:35:12am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are in a frothing rage (as usual) over this photo which is actually totes kewl:

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That is very cool. It would be also very cool to see one with women.

96 #FergusonFireside  Jul 6, 2015 11:36:14am

re: #93 FemNaziBitch

I’m playing on ebay.

I’d like to screech like this sometimes.

I love it.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:36:37am
98 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2015 11:36:40am

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

He wasn’t tried for war crimes because the US wanted the data from the experiments.

Instead of being tried for war crimes, the researchers involved in Unit 731 were given immunity in exchange for their data on human experimentation.[8] Some were arrested by Soviet forces and tried at the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials in 1949. Americans did not try the researchers so that the information and experience gained in bio-weapons could be co-opted into the U.S. biological warfare program.[9]

I can’t find the paper I wrote on it in high school, but there’s the Wikipedia summary.

99 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 11:36:51am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

They do, but as Wendell Z. pointed out, there’s plenty of Japanese who simply will brook no discussion on the matter whatsoever. End of story.

Personally, I’m really tired of last century atrocities.

I’d like people to be more aware of the atrocities happening right now in OUR OWN COUNTRY.

the Whackos seem to be bent on focusing on the past and I”m really tired of it as a way of distracting voters. Red herring … .

100 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:37:14am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, why four men and not include any women?

What a great scene last night, Abby Wambach running over to the stands to hug and kiss her wife.

101 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 11:37:26am

UpChuck did another interview? Well, wheatdogg and his GotNwes sleuth team will have a full report probably before sunset.

:-D

102 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:37:35am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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I used to like Carolla when I was a kid but he’s a dick. Totally thinks being rich means you’re a better person than if you’re not.

103 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 11:38:26am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, why four men and not include any women?

Because the Pope and every other so called LGBT rights person isn’t focused on Lesbians. They are focused on MEN and their rights.

Nice, huh.

I’m glad the LGBT community is being recognized, but at the same time, I’D LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A HUMAN BEING.

I don’t care whom I offend.

104 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:39:01am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Totally thinks being rich means you’re a better person than if you’re not.

There’s a lot of that going around.

105 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:39:12am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, why four men and not include any women?

Maybe one of them is trans

106 Eventual Carrion  Jul 6, 2015 11:39:31am

re: #53 jaunte

Here’s a preview of the arguments of the rearguard action:

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Didn’t we already have the ‘sexual revolution’ like back in the 60’s?

107 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:39:32am
108 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 11:40:04am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I used to like Carolla when I was a kid but he’s a dick. Totally thinks being rich means you’re a better person than if you’re not.

I heard a speaker (insurance agent) once that said he used to think that if he made more money every year that meant he was smarter every year. Then he realized that premiums go up every year -and therefore his commissions.

I’ve always remembered that.

109 FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2015 11:40:08am

re: #7 lawhawk

Not typical flag etiquette, but federal law. 4 USC 1 et seq.

It specifically identifies the position and order of presentation:

The US Flag Code has been moot concerning civilian conduct since 11 June, 1990.
You can hang it, burn it, relieve yourself upon it, as you wish.
As long as it belongs to you.

110 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:40:16am

Verdin amendment tabled by 22-17 vote. That narrow result suggests there might not be enough votes to pass flag bill by 2/3 majority vote.

(SC Flag debate)

thestate.com

111 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 11:40:21am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are in a frothing rage (as usual) over this photo which is actually totes kewl:

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You know, I think any debate has to have a line drawn somewhere, and I think we just found it.

112 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:40:21am

Meanwhile, looks like Greece is in even more trouble with this decision from the European Central Bank.

That means there’s now a very good chance that one or more Greek banks will fail. And then, you may well see a cascading effect resulting in insolvency of all the Greek banks, thus crashing Greece out of the EMU.

As Samuel L. Jackson said,

…

113 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:41:11am

And what does Ben think causes cervical cancer? Too much sex with the wrong kind of partner?

114 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:41:49am

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He wasn’t tried for war crimes because the US wanted the data from the experiments.

I can’t find the paper I wrote on it in high school, but there’s the Wikipedia summary.

Yep. One of those things that makes me shake my head. Sure, Cold War and everything, but…..fuckin’ A. The guy was a monster.

115 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:42:41am

re: #106 Eventual Carrion

Didn’t we already have the ‘sexual revolution’ like back in the 60’s?

The Gospel Coalition (the source of these “questions”) is a seriously regressive organization, believes in something called “male headship”—i.e. the man is supposed to be the head of the family, the church, and as unlikely as it is right now, society as a whole.

116 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:43:22am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

And what does Ben think causes cervical cancer? Too much sex with the wrong kind of partner?

Does Ben have a source for this?

117 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:44:20am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, looks like Greece is in even more trouble with this decision from the European Central Bank.

A new RW meme is emerging comparing what’s happening in Greece to the situation in Puerto Rico. Here’s a handy link to rebut that nonsense.
washingtonpost.com

118 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:44:32am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

And what does Ben think causes cervical cancer? Too much sex with the wrong kind of partner?

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Would like to see the whole context. Difference Ben is Sanders never said shit about “legitimate rape”. Akin’s bad science wasn’t the issue, the issue is he’s a sexist prick who thinks some women deserve to be raped. Comprende dickface?

119 withak  Jul 6, 2015 11:44:45am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

And what does Ben think causes cervical cancer? Too much sex with the wrong kind of partner?

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Ben Shapiro, gold medalist in mental gymnastics

120 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:44:52am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

And what does Ben think causes cervical cancer? Too much sex with the wrong kind of partner?

This is just like Akin’s “rape” statement, how come libs aren’t all mad, blah blah blah?

///

121 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:45:30am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Yep. One of those things that makes me shake my head. Sure, Cold War and everything, but…..fuckin’ A. The guy was a monster.

So much of our actions in the CW just make me sick.

122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:45:48am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Would like to see the whole context.

We should all just take Ben’s word for it.

///

123 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:46:11am

re: #122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We should all just take Ben’s word for it.

///

Heh yeah.

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:48:10am

Helpful information, just in case, because you never know when it will happen…

125 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:48:13am

Get back to me when a Dem politician makes light of rape or suggests a rape victim deserved it at the frequency GOP officials do.

126 Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2015 11:49:19am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, looks like Greece is in even more trouble with this decision from the European Central Bank.

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That means there’s now a very good chance that one or more Greek banks will fail. And then, you may well see a cascading effect resulting in insolvency of all the Greek banks, thus crashing Greece out of the EMU.

As Samuel L. Jackson said,

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I sometimes forget that Samuel L. Jackson was in Jurassic Park. It was one of his more subdued performances.

127 CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2015 11:49:39am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Helpful information, just in case, because you never know when it will happen…

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Heh, quick thinking lady.

128 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 11:49:55am

In regards to the move of the ECB:

The European Central Bank (ECB) will not be adjusting the amount of funding available to Greek banks. In a statement, the ECB said: “ELA (Emergency Liquidity Assistance) can only be provided against sufficient collateral.” …and much of that collateral includes debt at increasing risk of default, as the Greek financial situation deteriorates.

bbc.com

This is a link to the ECB statement: ecb.europa.eu

I wonder how you say this in Greek?

129 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 11:50:01am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Helpful information, just in case, because you never know when it will happen…

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I like to read it aloud: “were fuddenly furprised at feeing a tiger ready to make its fatal fpring!”

130 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 11:50:38am

Good grief….

131 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:51:32am

re: #130 Jenner7

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Good grief….

132 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 11:51:44am

re: #130 Jenner7

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Good grief….

As long as it is the white surrender flag, no problem.

133 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:51:51am

re: #130 Jenner7

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Good grief….

How about you just resign Lee? It’s obvious that you love the CSA more than your actual country.

134 withak  Jul 6, 2015 11:51:51am

re: #130 Jenner7

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Good grief….

How about a nice, plain white flag?

Edit: 7 seconds, WW!

135 Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2015 11:52:26am

re: #122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We should all just take Ben’s word for it.

///

Apparently Sanders cited a journal article in some medical journal which stated that:
dailymail.co.uk

136 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:52:28am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I do declare that Mister Bright is drunk.

137 lawhawk  Jul 6, 2015 11:52:35am

re: #130 Jenner7

138 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:52:38am
139 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 11:52:46am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Get back to me when a Dem politician makes light of rape or suggests a rape victim deserved it at the frequency GOP officials do.

Or Democrats respond by offering defenses of the statements.

140 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 11:53:07am

re: #129 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I like to read it aloud: “were fuddenly furprised at feeing a tiger ready to make its fatal fpring!”

Fmartaff.

141 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:53:58am

re: #120 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is just like Akin’s “rape” statement, how come libs aren’t all mad, blah blah blah?

///

1. No evidence Bernie said this
2. If he did say something like it 50 years ago, it’s doubtful he still holds by it.

142 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:54:27am

re: #137 lawhawk

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Lincoln was racist but Frederick Douglass who knew a thing or two about racism and white supremacy said Lincoln was one of the only whites that ever treated him like a man. Doubt Jefferson Davis would have.

143 CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2015 11:54:32am

Okay, that’s enough bad crazy for me for now.

BBL…

144 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:54:53am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Or Democrats respond by offering defenses of the statements.

Correct.

145 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:55:21am

Now: Senate amendment by Bright to fly First National Flag of Confederate States of America instead of battle flag

Yeah, that’s a great improvement//
(Of course, a Lee Bright amendment.)

146 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:55:37am

f and ß are not the same letter.

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:56:01am
148 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:56:59am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Get back to me when a Dem politician makes light of rape or suggests a rape victim deserved it at the frequency GOP officials do.

Do you have the GOP Rape Advisory Chart handy, or do you need me to post it again?
//

149 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 11:57:10am
150 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:57:11am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goalposts. Moving.

151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 11:57:24am
152 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:04am
153 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:04am

re: #148 BeachDem

Do you have the GOP Rape Advisory Chart handy, or do you need me to post it again?
//

I don’t. I’m on my phone on a bus.

154 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:08am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I do declare that Mister Bright is drunk.

Sadly, he’s that way all the time.

155 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:27am

re: #137 lawhawk

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Except Lincoln was on record as opposing slavery before he was elected.

I love the logic that since the Union didn’t go to war to end slavery, that the war wasn’t anout slavery, even though the CSA clearly stated that was why they seceded.

156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:33am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

f and ß are not the same letter.

It seems they only write the f when the s is the first letter, otherwise they write the f as an f when it’s the first letter instead of an s but they write the s when it ‘snot the first letter and it isn’t an f.

I need to sit down for a minute.

157 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:44am

re: #154 BeachDem

Sadly, he’s that way all the time.

Some people start drinking as soon as they wake up.

158 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:50am

re: #137 lawhawk

This guy…..

159 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 11:58:55am

re: #154 BeachDem

Sadly, he’s that way all the time.

I believe it.

160 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:59:20am
161 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 11:59:20am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HURR HURR ISIS!!!!!!!

162 Eventual Carrion  Jul 6, 2015 11:59:50am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, why four men and not include any women?

And why not the Village People raising it if they were using all guys.

//

163 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:00:08pm

How about we stop honoring treason against our country, just because it’s part of our history?

164 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:00:12pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

Except Lincoln was on record as opposing slavery before he was elected.

I love the logic that since the Union didn’t go to war to end slavery, that the war wasn’t anout slavery, even though the CSA clearly stated that was why they seceded.

Lincoln did defend white supremacy as a senate candidate but he also pushed the 13th-15th amendments as president.

165 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 12:00:21pm

re: #156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It seems they only write the f when the s is the first letter, otherwise they write the f as an f when it’s the first letter instead of an s but they write the s when it ‘snot the first letter and it isn’t an f.

I need to sit down for a minute.

If you look closely at the text, the f-looking letter that represents an s-sound is not that same as an actual f.

166 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 12:00:50pm

In plain English, tomorrow’s the meeting between Greece and the EU. And if the ECB doesn’t like what it hears, they’ll pull the trigger.

The Greek government is now under intense pressure. Like I said, it’s a high-stakes game of chicken at this point.

167 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:00pm

Lee Bright seems to be an oxymoron. Or maybe just aplon old moron.

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:14pm
169 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:18pm

re: #163 jaunte

How about we stop honoring treason against our country, just because it’s part of our history?

No kidding. You don’t see government memorials to the Rosenbergs, Robert Hannsen, and Aldridge Ames.

170 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:25pm

re: #152 Ace-o-aces

…

171 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:42pm
172 Mattand  Jul 6, 2015 12:01:58pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I do declare that Mister Bright is drunk.

Senator Bright is also ironically named.

173 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 12:02:04pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

174 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:02:43pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

If you look closely at the text, the f-looking letter that represents an s-sound is not that same as an actual f.

I know

175 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 12:02:45pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

Senator Bright isn’t.

176 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:03:30pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

Fufferin’ fuccotash!

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:03:44pm
178 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:04:10pm

re: #156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It seems they only write the f when the s is the first letter, otherwise they write the f as an f when it’s the first letter instead of an s but they write the s when it ‘snot the first letter and it isn’t an f.

I need to sit down for a minute.

don’t try to understand.

179 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 12:04:45pm

And remember kids, Ted Cruz is Upchuck’s favorite politician, because of course he is.

180 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 12:04:52pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At the Klavern, they all have their hoods on, so would they wear stickers that say HELLO MY NAME IS

181 withak  Jul 6, 2015 12:05:20pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How would he know if he’s never met a Klansman? Isn’t that what the hoods are for?

Edit: It must be Monday, I am continually being beaten to the punch.

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:05:36pm
183 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:06:07pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously….?

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:06:23pm

re: #183 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Seriously….?

The man is insane.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:06:27pm
186 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:06:47pm

Are there any blind holes that Bright hasn’t gone in?

187 lawhawk  Jul 6, 2015 12:07:10pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

188 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:07:43pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Six more who ‘think’ like Bright.

189 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 12:07:44pm
190 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:07:46pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let’s see how we compare with the Whacko Muslims:

Female Repro Rights —no on both counts
Torture of Domestic Criminals —yes, both counts
Child Rape —yup —
sex slavery —you got it.
denial of science -need I go on?

191 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:07:48pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because Gold’s Gym and Budweiser have been used to push white supremacy. Seriously dude get your head out of your fat ass, the flag is racist and doesn’t belong on a state Capitol. Go ahead, own one yourself but keep your love of slave owning traitors out of our government.

192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:08:07pm

The only thing Bright is accomplishing, and he’s doing this quite well, is to give the other Republicans a chance to pretend they’re noble by tabling the amendments.

193 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:08:13pm

New: SC Senate tables amendment to fly the Stars and Bars flag by a 34-6 vote. Third amendment shot down.

Give it up, Lee. (Bright, not Robert E., although that works as well.)

194 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 12:08:31pm

re: #156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It seems they only write the f when the s is the first letter, otherwise they write the f as an f when it’s the first letter instead of an s but they write the s when it ‘snot the first letter and it isn’t an f.

I need to sit down for a minute.

You’re confusing f for the long s, which is ſ.

The ß character is a ligature that takes the place of (sz) and (ss) after long vowels.

195 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:08:44pm

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

Let’s see how we compare with the Whacko Muslims:

Female Repro Rights —no on both counts
Torture of Domestic Criminals —yes, both counts
Child Rape —yup —
sex slavery —you got it.
denial of science -need I go on?

Theocracy- yes yes

196 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 12:08:50pm
197 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:09:30pm

re: #192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The only thing Bright is accomplishing, and he’s doing this quite well, is to give the other Republicans a chance to pretend they’re noble by tabling the amendments.

Six of them passed up that opportunity.

198 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:10:22pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

The man is insane.

And, because it never gets old—he came in second to Lindsey in the 2014 primary!

199 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 12:10:38pm
200 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:11:12pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

I appreciate it. I have seen writing from the day. In fact, I’ve seen the Declaration of Independence. I’m just having a little fun. Won’t happen again/

201 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:11:53pm

re: #199 Kragar

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A week before britain’s Lord Haw Haw Memorial Day.

202 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:12:50pm

Ted Cruz’s team stands by campaign aide who compared Confederate flag removal to a ‘Stalinist purge’
businessinsider.com

203 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 6, 2015 12:12:55pm
Cuteness Break!
204 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 12:12:56pm

Rick Perry loses another voter.

205 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:13:27pm

Another bright SC Republican light:

Senate Majority Leader Harvey Peeler: The greatest museum in the state of South Carolina is right here. We are standing on history’s acerage

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:14:19pm

It’s just like tattoos and corpses!!11!!

207 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:14:24pm

re: #204 darthstar

Maybe it was a homophobic male alligator. I don’t think I could tell a male alligator from a female.

208 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:14:29pm

re: #202 jaunte

Ted Cruz’s team stands by campaign aide who compared Confederate flag removal to a ‘Stalinist purge’
businessinsider.com

Except people were you know murdered in Stalin’s purges not a bunch of butthurt whiners who are upset that their treason flag won’t fly anymore.

209 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:15:41pm

re: #204 darthstar

Rick Perry loses another voter.

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Looks like this guy had several beers and some shots too.

210 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:15:47pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

In one context he could be acknowledging that the Confederacy is dead.

211 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:16:13pm

re: #204 darthstar

“Culture of defiance” claims another victim.

212 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 12:16:18pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

213 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:17:42pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

What kind of sicko uses an analogy about removing tattoos from corpses?

214 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:17:56pm

re: #212 Kragar

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Right. The flag went up in the first place as a not so subtle fuck you to civil rights activists.

215 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:18:08pm

re: #210 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

In one context he could be acknowledging that the Confederacy is dead.

And in another he could be saying “Why bother?”

216 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:18:13pm

re: #213 jaunte

What kind of sicko uses an analogy about removing tattoos from corpses?

A Republican one.

217 blueraven  Jul 6, 2015 12:18:19pm
218 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:19:17pm

re: #217 blueraven

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Like the president you despise. Black people can still be successful and the flag doesn’t lose its hateful legacy.

219 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 12:19:23pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

“Here’s a grotesque thought to distract from my grotesque attempt to preserve a grotesque memorial.”

220 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 12:19:58pm
Who knew there was a “Christian flag?”

Catholics? //

Vatican City flag
221 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:20:06pm

re: #199 Kragar

I never miss a Loyalist Heritage Day.

222 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:20:10pm

re: #219 jaunte

“Here’s a grotesque thought to distract from my grotesque attempt to preserve a grotesque memorial.”

Yep.

223 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:20:20pm

re: #213 jaunte

What kind of sicko uses an analogy about removing tattoos from corpses?

I guess he doesn’t have a speech writer

224 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 6, 2015 12:20:42pm

re: #186 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Are there any blind holes that Bright hasn’t gone in?

Fox News is busy taking notes. No new talking points brought up yet.

225 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:20:58pm

re: #217 blueraven

Some of my best friends…

226 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:21:07pm

re: #220 De Kolta Chair

Is that snow in The Vatican?

227 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 12:21:15pm

Love this…saw it on fb earlier.

228 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:21:24pm

re: #213 jaunte

What kind of sicko uses an analogy about removing tattoos from corpses?

Private Comment

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229 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 12:22:06pm

re: #217 blueraven

230 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 12:24:36pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian Tashman @briantashman

Just a reminder that Lee Bright is the same man Ted Cruz picked to lead his South Carolina campaign bit.ly

2:54 PM - 6 Jul 2015

Imagine my shock upon leaning this!

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231 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 12:25:21pm

The SC debate is on CSPAN.

232 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:26:35pm

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

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Notice, when Republicans talk about “successful black people,” they hardly ever mention President Obama.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 6, 2015 12:26:57pm

re: #213 jaunte

What kind of sicko uses an analogy about removing tattoos from corpses?

One grasping for straws and analogies that don’t sound worse?

234 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 6, 2015 12:28:12pm

This Christian flag has been around a long time. When I was a child (yes, that long ago) the House of Superstition where I received my unsuccessful
Sunday school indoctrination had such a flag on prominent display. They never flew it above the US flag, or flew it at all for that matter.

I have seen this flag a few times since, usually flanking the altar with the US flag on the opposite side.

235 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 12:28:36pm

re: #232 BeachDem

Notice, when Republicans talk about “successful black people,” they hardly ever mention President Obama.

Of course. They only mention black people who “succeed” due to the conservative inverse-meritocracy. A black person has to be REALLY crazy to get Republican approval.

236 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 12:28:58pm

PACs have to list donors. Non-profits don’t.

Nonprofit “Conservative Solutions Project” gives $15m to PAC “Conservative Solutions PAC” and hence is only one donor. And CNN swallows this shit.

237 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:29:49pm

WHY???

238 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:30:03pm

re: #232 BeachDem

Notice, when Republicans talk about “successful black people,” they hardly ever mention President Obama.

That’s because he’s not successful in their eyes.

239 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 12:30:14pm

So, is Lee Bright rambling on like a filibluster?

240 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:31:24pm

BABA!

OMG! They opened this very strange market near our house —it has a bar and nightclub lighting thru-out. I don’t know why, but

THEY HAVE Key Lime Kefir.

I kid you knot!

I like kefir and it tastes wonderful.

And I think of you every time I drink it.

241 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 12:31:48pm

re: #238 HappyWarrior

That’s because he’s not successful in their eyes.

Their eyes are worse than blind. They’re willfully ignorant.

242 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:32:06pm

re: #227 darthstar

Love this…saw it on fb earlier.

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LOL!

243 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 12:32:50pm

re: #237 FemNaziBitch

The dog in the ring is wearing glasses

244 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:33:01pm

re: #220 De Kolta Chair

Catholics? //

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yup

245 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:33:31pm

re: #241 No Country For Old Haters

Their eyes are worse than blind. They’re willfully ignorant.

Of course.

246 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:33:45pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Except people were you know murdered in Stalin’s purges not a bunch of butthurt whiners who are upset that their treason flag won’t fly anymore.

Yes, we are purging the Stalinists.

Makes sense to me.

247 blueraven  Jul 6, 2015 12:34:12pm

re: #239 ObserverArt

So, is Lee Bright rambling on like a filibluster?

Nah, he is no longer speaking. It’s just that what he said was OMG WTF.

248 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:34:22pm

re: #207 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Maybe it was a homophobic male alligator. I don’t think I could tell a male alligator from a female.

It doesn’t matter if you can. It only matters if the male and female alligators can tell each other apart.

:)

249 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 12:34:55pm

re: #204 darthstar

Rick Perry loses another voter.

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you are sooooo bad!

250 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:35:28pm

re: #246 FemNaziBitch

Yes, we are purging the Stalinists.

Makes sense to me.

They see themselves as the victims though.

251 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 12:37:52pm
252 Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2015 12:38:18pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

I like this take:

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253 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 12:38:31pm

re: #246 FemNaziBitch

Yes, we are purging the Stalinists.

Makes sense to me.

That’s what I find hilarious, is that I doubt any of the morons who nod along to this tripe were overly broken up when the various symbols of the old communist system were brought down when the Soviet Union collapsed.

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:39:10pm

re: #204 darthstar

255 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 12:39:41pm

re: #226 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Is that snow in The Vatican?

Yes, I believe that photo was taken in 2012.

256 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:39:42pm

[…]

According to police about 100 protesters showed up for the flag display, with one woman — a recent transplant from Georgia — saying she was surprised by what she saw.

“I didn’t know it was a hatred show,” she said. “It wouldn’t surprise me if this happened in Georgia, but I was shocked to see it in Arizona. It’s very sad.”

257 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:01pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

That’s what I find hilarious, is that I doubt any of the morons who nod along to this tripe were overly broken up when the various symbols of the old communist system were brought down when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Bright (not very) no doubt means the purges of the military and other dissenters by Stalin during the 1930’s.

But the analogy, and Bright, are still stupid.

258 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:10pm

re: #236 darthstar

PACs have to list donors. Non-profits don’t.

Nonprofit “Conservative Solutions Project” gives $15m to PAC “Conservative Solutions PAC” and hence is only one donor. And CNN swallows this shit.

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And when the IRS starts targeting these obviously fraudulent groups for investigation, people complain!

And Scalia doesn’t think money corrupts politics!

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:38pm
260 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:41pm
261 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:52pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

Arizona man who led anti-Muslim rally now angry at Walmart for pulling Confederate merchandise

My surprise face….

262 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 6, 2015 12:41:53pm

Christian Flag at wikipedia

Like Christian fundamentalism itself, this flag originated with early 20th century evangelists:

The Christian Flag was first conceived on September 26, 1897, at Brighton Chapel on Coney Island in Brooklyn, New York in the United States. The superintendent of a Sunday school, Charles C. Overton, gave an impromptu lecture to the gathered students, because the scheduled speaker had failed to arrive for the event. He gave a speech asking the students what a flag representing Christianity would look like. Overton thought about his improvised speech for many years afterward. In 1907, he and Ralph Diffendorfer, secretary of the Methodist Young People’s Missionary Movement, designed and began promoting the flag.

There is even a pledge of allegiance:

I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the Saviour for whose kingdom it stands; one brotherhood, uniting all mankind in service and in love.

263 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 12:42:46pm

re: #256 wrenchwench

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AZ is a very regressive state. Any yahoo can run around with concealed guns, and there are a lot of right-wing conspiracy nuts there.

264 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 12:44:26pm

re: #247 blueraven

Nah, he is no longer speaking. It’s just that what he said was OMG WTF.

Maybe I should have made that joke misspelling a bit more obvious with ‘fullofbluster’ instead of filibluster.

: )

265 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 12:46:02pm

From the BBC’s Robert Peston:

But I understand that one of the Big Four Greek banks has already almost run out of cash. So the ECB statement means that bank has no ability to replenish its dwindling cash stocks.

In other words, the ECB has brought forward the fateful moment when the Greek banking system ceases to function in any meaningful way, for want of cash.

The Greek government and Bank of Greece today agreed with the banks that until Wednesday night, they will continue to allow cash withdrawals of up to 60 Euro per account - for those banks that still have paper money. And the ban on overseas transfers will be sustained until then.

Wednesday night therefore becomes a hard deadline for the Greek government to make serious progress in bailout negotiations with creditors - in the hope that the ECB is then persuaded to end the freeze on lending to banks.

bbc.com

Fasten your seatbelts, indeed.

266 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 12:46:29pm

Good grief. Even the state Senators who are against keeping the Confederate flag sound like wingnuts.

267 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 12:46:36pm

Listening to the debates and it’s pretty much: Let’s not talk about the significance of the flag, let’s take it down because the good black folk forgave Dylan and didn’t riot.

268 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 12:47:07pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

Good grief. Even the state Senators who are against keeping the Confederate flag sound like wingnuts.

only because they are.

269 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 12:47:17pm

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel

I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the Saviour for whose kingdom it stands; one brotherhood, uniting all mankind in service and in love.

“And to those who oppose us: you will burn for your sins, on Earth and throughout eternity.”

270 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:47:22pm

re: #263 No Country For Old Haters

AZ is a very regressive state. Any yahoo can run around with concealed guns, and there are a lot of right-wing conspiracy nuts there.

And then there are urban areas with a regular mix, then there are the reservations where you follow the laws of another nation.

271 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2015 12:47:32pm

i see where cruz gets props and support from freeps for his mealy mouthed response to the recent trumpisms

there’s a large constituency in the republican party just dying to hear overtly racist rhetoric

272 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:49:05pm
273 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:50:13pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You could have realized it if you cared about all of your constituency.

274 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2015 12:50:30pm

re: #202 jaunte

Ted Cruz’s team stands by campaign aide who compared Confederate flag removal to a ‘Stalinist purge’
businessinsider.com

why arent you shivering in a death camp in siberia then?

275 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:50:43pm

re: #271 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i see where cruz gets props and support from freeps for his mealy mouthed response to the recent trumpisms

there’s a large constituency in the republican party just dying to hear overtly racist rhetoric

I used to think that our right wasn’t like the European far right but I have been proven wrong.

276 ComradeDread  Jul 6, 2015 12:51:05pm

I know this is simply one man’s small tantrum that the State no longer affirms his beliefs on marriage, but seriously, why do Evangelicals or other Christian sects have an American flag flying or displayed in a church at all?

Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world. Wouldn’t flying an American flag on church grounds be a repudiation of that teaching? Hell, wouldn’t flying a Christian flag be the same, some assertion of your loyalty to a nation-state ideal on Earth as opposed to your loyalty to the teachings of Christ?

277 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:51:41pm
.@SenatorTomDavis says he’s “embarrassed to say” that he had not realized how offensive the #ConfederateFlag is to many until recently.

If that’s because he never asked a descendant of slaves, he should be embarrassed.

278 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 12:51:48pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@SenatorTomDavis says he’s “embarrassed to say” that he had not realized how offensive the #ConfederateFlag is to many until recently.

Because, shucks, my history books said it was great, that everybody loved this flag, my ancestors who flew this flag were brave and honorable fighting for a noble cause, etc.

279 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:53:00pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

If that’s because he never asked a descendant of slaves, he should be embarrassed.

Exactly!

280 No Depression  Jul 6, 2015 12:53:11pm

I went to a Christian school for 12 years and I clearly remember the Christian flag, In elementary school, we started every day with the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag and then a pledge to the Christian flag which goes like this:

I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and the Savior for whose Kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen, and coming again with life and liberty to all who believe.

281 Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2015 12:54:45pm

re: #280 No Depression

One word….

Marketing

282 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 12:56:44pm

Watching this debate, it sounds like one long Church sermon, not a governmental debate. Every single one of these politicians is pounding the Bible for all they’re worth.

Judging from this, the separation of church and state is long-dead, at least in South Carolina.

283 ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2015 12:57:35pm

I wonder what Nikki Haley’s is really thinking today?

284 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 12:57:36pm

re: #241 No Country For Old Haters

Their eyes are worse than blind. They’re willfully ignorant.

Glued shut.

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 12:57:51pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Watching this debate, it sounds like one long Church sermon, not a governmental debate. Every single one of these politicians is pounding the Bible for all they’re worth.

Judging from this, the separation of church and state is long-dead, at least in South Carolina.

286 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 12:59:36pm

Cancellara’s TDF is cancelled.

287 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 12:59:53pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Watching this debate, it sounds like one long Church sermon, not a governmental debate. Every single one of these politicians is pounding the Bible for all they’re worth.

Judging from this, the separation of church and state is long-dead, at least in South Carolina.

A lot of GOP politicos I can’t tell apart from TV preachers and a lot of TV preachers……

288 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:01:29pm

Bush bemoans Obama’s ‘zombie economy’

To be fair he has a point. Obama did bring the economy back from the dead after his brother killed it.

289 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 1:01:30pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

Shame. The video of him catching up with the peleton in the Alps (?) set to classical music is awesome.

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290 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2015 1:02:09pm

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Unit 731 never really got the press that the Nazi doctors did. And the stuff Unit 731 did is truly insane. Observations on anthrax exposure, vivisection without anesthesia of full-term pregnant women, medical experiments on POW’s, etc.

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.

Everybody laughs about those balloon bombs the Japanese released against the West Coast of the US…. They weren’t really so laughable when you realize that tiny explosive charges were only substituted when Unit 731 failed to deliver the biological weapons that were supposed to have been used.

Japanese meteorologists discovered the Jet Stream, and conceived of the notion of using it to deliver biological weapons against the US mainland. Of course, it turned out biological weapons didn’t work (never have and never will). For all the atrocious experiments Unit 731 performed on Chinese civilians, the vast majority of the millions of Chinese they killed had to be killed the old-fashioned way—poisoned wells, infected blankets, etc.

It’s really amazing how the left hand never knew what the right hand was doing in Japan during the war. British radar engineers captured in Singapore were being tortured for details of their antenna design. They kept telling their captors: “You should know better than we do”, but they didn’t even recognize “Yagi” as a Japanese name in that context.

The Navajo “Code Talkers” were able to communicate without any fear of the Japanese understanding them—but wasn’t the world’s most eminent expert in the Athabascan Languages at Tokyo University?

291 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:03:22pm

re: #288 goddamnedfrank

Bush bemoans Obama’s ‘zombie economy’

To be fair he has a point. Obama did bring the economy back from the dead after his brother killed it.

Hah true.

292 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:05:36pm

re: #288 goddamnedfrank

Bush bemoans Obama’s ‘zombie economy’

To be fair he has a point. Obama did bring the economy back from the dead after his brother killed it.

Well I’m pretty sick of all the zombies, too. Must there be zombie movies, zombie TV shows, on all the time?

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293 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:06:01pm
“Barack Obama’s policies have given us a zombie economy where no matter what else happens, most Americans are falling behind,” Bush writes.

His “friend of the little guy” bullshit might sell better if he wasn’t the GOP’s big business candidate.

294 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 1:06:04pm

re: #290 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Everybody laughs about those balloon bombs the Japanese released against the West Coast of the US…. They weren’t really so laughable when you realize that tiny explosive charges were only substituted when Unit 731 failed to deliver the biological weapons that were supposed to have been used.

Japanese meteorologists discovered the Jet Stream, and conceived of the notion of using it to deliver biological weapons against the US mainland. Of course, it turned out biological weapons didn’t work (never have and never will). For all the atrocious experiments Unit 731 performed on Chinese civilians, the vast majority of the millions of Chinese they killed had to be killed the old-fashioned way—poisoned wells, infected blankets, etc.

It’s really amazing how the left hand never knew what the right hand was doing in Japan during the war. British radar engineers captured in Singapore were being tortured for details of their antenna design. They kept telling their captors: “You should know better than we do”, but they didn’t even recognize “Yagi” as a Japanese name in that context.

The Navajo “Code Talkers” were able to communicate without any fear of the Japanese understanding them—but wasn’t the world’s most eminent expert in the Athabascan Languages at Tokyo University?

Good points, one and all. The lack of coordination within WWII-era Japan is breathtaking. If they’d actually gotten their shit together, WWII might have turned out a bit different in the Pacific Theater.

295 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 1:06:47pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

FTA:

Bush says that lower taxes and fewer regulations — including a more market-oriented approach to health care — would inspire more economic growth.

Holy Zeus, does anyone believe this bullshit any more?

296 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 1:06:56pm
297 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:07:16pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

“Barack Obama’s policies have given us a zombie economy where no matter what else happens, most Americans are falling behind,” Bush writes.

His “friend of the little guy” bullshit might sell better if he wasn’t the GOP’s big business candidate.

Yeah no kidding.

298 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:07:56pm

re: #296 Kragar

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And our country isn’t and has never been based off Christianity.

299 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:02pm

re: #295 iossarian

FTA:

Holy Zeus, does anyone believe this bullshit any more?

Same crap I’ve been hearing from Republicans for years now and it just ain’t true.

300 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:06pm

And Greece’s woes continue apace:

Just to make things clear, the IMF has told the Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, that it will not advance any more money to Greece. Why? Because it missed that last payment of 1.6bn Euro. “The managing director [Christine Lagarde] explained the fund’s inability to disburse under its arrears policy,” an IMF spokesman said.

bbc.com

The IMF is pretty much the lender of last resort. When they say no, you’re in deep shit at that point.

301 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:14pm
302 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:14pm

re: #289 iossarian

Shame. The video of him catching up with the peleton in the Alps (?) set to classical music is awesome.

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He needs as good of a helmet as the motorcyclists he’s passing to do that kind of riding safely, but even a full-face helmet (which roadies will never adopt) would not have saved his spine.

303 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:15pm

Vote in. 37-3

304 Jack Burton  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:32pm

re: #295 iossarian

FTA:

Holy Zeus, does anyone believe this bullshit any more?

Weapons-Grade Confirmation Bias, Echo-Chambers, Preaching to the Choir, Fox News (I know, redundant here) etc…

305 blueraven  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:37pm
306 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 1:09:56pm

re: #260 Ace-o-aces

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That is a hilarious Twitter feed—looks like it’s just getting started—hope whoever it is continues to tweet.

I’m trying to find out who it is. (I have a few thoughts!)

307 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 1:10:07pm
308 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 1:10:16pm

re: #236 darthstar

PACs have to list donors. Non-profits don’t.

Nonprofit “Conservative Solutions Project” gives $15m to PAC “Conservative Solutions PAC” and hence is only one donor. And CNN swallows this shit.

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CNN not only swallows that shit they give it a platform and ask no other questions.

309 #FergusonFireside  Jul 6, 2015 1:10:40pm

Wow, I missed this.

310 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 1:10:41pm

re: #243 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The dog in the ring is wearing glasses

I KNOW!!! LOL

311 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 1:11:23pm

re: #305 blueraven

Not even close.

312 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:12:12pm

re: #309 #FergusonFireside

Wow, I missed this.

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Donald isn’t your wife from Slovenia and your ex Czech? But I get all Mexicans are illegals.

313 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 1:12:58pm

re: #309 #FergusonFireside

All class, all the time. He’s ahead in some polls. You have to just salivate at that. Donald Trump. Leading on the right. Wow. The SS Bigot. All aboard!

314 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 1:13:17pm

re: #307 Jenner7

So they have to go through this process one more time before it gets out of the senate?

315 blueraven  Jul 6, 2015 1:13:21pm
316 Jenner7  Jul 6, 2015 1:14:19pm

re: #314 stpaulbear

Seems like it.

317 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 1:14:25pm

re: #309 #FergusonFireside

Wow, I missed this.

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Does Trump have no media handlers? Seriously, I mean you would think at least his kids would want to stop him from pissing away their inheritance and whatever is left of their family’s good name.

318 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:15:04pm

re: #313 Drive By Commenter

All class, all the time. He’s ahead in some polls. You have to just salivate at that. Donald Trump. Leading on the right. Wow. The SS Bigot. All aboard!

Nice party huh. Why anyone not a bigoted jackass would want to be part of that amazes me.

319 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2015 1:17:07pm

Ever grill shrimp and have nothing but rubber on a stick? Here are some great tips. :)

seriouseats.com

320 TedStriker  Jul 6, 2015 1:17:33pm

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Donald isn’t your wife from Slovenia and your ex Czech? But I get all Mexicans are illegals.

You don’t understand.

The Donald picks ‘em white, so it’s alright; Jeb married brown, so that gives The Donald a frown.

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321 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2015 1:17:46pm

re: #305 blueraven

I bet the 3 no votes are Dems. After all, Confederates were DEMICRETS!!!!!

322 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:18:28pm

re: #320 TedStriker

You don’t understand.

The Donald picks ‘em white, so it’s alright; Jeb married brown, so that gives The Donald a frown.

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True. Fucker.

323 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:18:31pm

re: #317 Ace-o-aces

Does Trump have no media handlers? Seriously, I mean you would think at least his kids would want to stop him from pissing away their inheritance and whatever is left of their family’s good name.

His kids are probably terrified that he’ll disinherit them if they speak up. Because he probably would. The guy is a poster child for entitled malignant vindictive narcissism.

They’re sitting at home in their penthouse apartments drinking heavily and googling “how to hire ninja assassins.”

324 Saint Stephen  Jul 6, 2015 1:19:24pm

re: #62 Kragar

Wow, a completely false argument from Rand Paul. Couldn’t have seen this coming.

It must follow, then, that if we are taxed at 0%, we’re completely FREE! Of course, if that were the case, there would be no government, no roads, libraries, police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.

It’s almost like RP didn’t think this through.

325 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 1:20:54pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Stupefying. That’s the word.

326 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 6, 2015 1:21:06pm

re: #324 Saint Stephen

Wow, a completely false argument from Rand Paul. Couldn’t have seen this coming.

It must follow, then, that if we are taxed at 0%, we’re completely FREE! Of course, if that were the case, there would be no government, no roads, libraries, police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.

It’s almost like RP didn’t think this through.

The whole glibertarian philosophy is based on not thinking things through.

327 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:22:33pm

re: #326 BlueSpotinAL

The whole glibertarian philosophy is based on not thinking things through.

It’s a fuck you, I got mine mentality that appeals to spoiled brats.

328 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 1:22:56pm

re: #326 BlueSpotinAL

The whole glibertarian philosophy is based on not thinking things through.

Or thinking it through only to the point of wanting to exploit vulnerable people. Some of them know that tyrants will fill that power vacuum. They want to be those tyrants.

329 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 1:22:57pm

Back to work. *sigh*

330 EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2015 1:23:18pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Nice party huh. Why anyone not a bigoted jackass would want to be part of that amazes me.

Today’s GOP is the Mos Eisley of politics: “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

331 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 1:24:19pm

re: #314 stpaulbear

So they have to go through this process one more time before it gets out of the senate?

And if you thought our State Senators were batshit, wait till you see/hear the esteemed members of the House. Oy.

332 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:25:40pm

re: #331 BeachDem

And if you thought our State Senators were batshit, wait till you see/hear the esteemed members of the House. Oy.

Not surprised at all. But here we go.

333 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 1:25:54pm

re: #331 BeachDem

And if you thought our State Senators were batshit, wait till you see/hear the esteemed members of the House. Oy.

I can’t wait.//

Do they have to clear a 2/3 majority too?

334 wrenchwench  Jul 6, 2015 1:26:56pm

re: #319 GlutenFreeJesus

Ever grill shrimp and have nothing but rubber on a stick? Here are some great tips. :)

seriouseats.com

J. Kenji López-Alt is the greatest.

335 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:27:22pm

re: #324 Saint Stephen

Wow, a completely false argument from Rand Paul. Couldn’t have seen this coming.

It must follow, then, that if we are taxed at 0%, we’re completely FREE! Of course, if that were the case, there would be no government, no roads, libraries, police, firefighters, etc, etc, etc.

It’s almost like RP didn’t think this through.

It looks like you still don’t understand. A marginal tax rate of 39.6% means you’re half a slave and is worse than the Holocaust and Obamacare, but a Flat, Fair Tax rate of 18% on everything for everyone is Flat and Fair.

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336 EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2015 1:27:55pm

re: #331 BeachDem

And if you thought our State Senators were batshit, wait till you see/hear the esteemed members of the House. Oy.

South Carolina needs to keep its reputation up to par: “too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.”

337 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:28:34pm
338 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:30:54pm
339 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 1:31:28pm

re: #335 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

worse than the Holocaust and Obamacare

You go too far. Pistols at dawn!

340 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 1:32:49pm

re: #333 stpaulbear

I can’t wait.//

Do they have to clear a 2/3 majority too?

Yes—and the last time I checked, it looked like they had the votes, but there’s going to be some arm-twisting going on among the misanthropes. My creepy Rep FINALLY announced that he’d vote to remove it, but with the typical tone-deaf caveat:

I ask you to join me in the realization that the flag under which our ancestors fought has been co-opted by a small group of racist individuals who have defined it as a symbol of division and hatred and for whom bigotry still thrives in their heart.

Uh huh—sure Alan.

carolinalive.com

341 Eventual Carrion  Jul 6, 2015 1:32:57pm

re: #204 darthstar

Rick Perry loses another voter.

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I knew alcohol had to be involved in that incident..

342 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:33:24pm
343 Jack Burton  Jul 6, 2015 1:33:43pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How long until the Chief of Police puts pressure on the scumbag mayor to hire Quint?

344 Eventual Carrion  Jul 6, 2015 1:34:00pm

re: #207 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Maybe it was a homophobic male alligator. I don’t think I could tell a male alligator from a female.

You have to stick your thumb up their ass to tell.

345 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 1:34:48pm

re: #341 Eventual Carrion

I knew alcohol had to be involved in that incident..

As it has been in all the recent suicides-via-stupidity. Of course this won’t lead to anti-alcohol propaganda like when someone does something stupid on a politically-incorrect drug.

346 FemNaziBitch  Jul 6, 2015 1:35:31pm

bbl

347 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 1:35:47pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My rules are simple, here they are:

1) Do not camp where there are bears
2) Do not swim where there are sharks*

* or alligators

348 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 1:40:56pm
349 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:41:17pm

Justine Tunney continues being awful.

350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:42:22pm

re: #349 goddamnedfrank

Justine Tunney continues being awful.

Although that League of the South guy says he’s a racist and that’s supposed to confuse libtards who are the real racists.

//

351 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2015 1:44:14pm

re: #349 goddamnedfrank

Justine Tunney continues being awful.

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352 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 1:45:03pm

re: #349 goddamnedfrank

Justine Tunney continues being awful.

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Only if you’re an actual racist. Don’t like being called racist, try not being racist. It’s not difficult.

353 Lidane  Jul 6, 2015 1:47:29pm

ICYMI:

Countdown to the next Trump lawsuit in 3…2…1….

354 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2015 1:47:50pm

“Barack Obama’s policies have given us a zombie economy where no matter what else happens, most Americans are falling behind,” Bush writes.

…

Bush says that lower taxes and fewer regulations — including a more market-oriented approach to health care — would inspire more economic growth.

makes sense to me that bush’s response to a zombie economy would be voodoo economics

355 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:47:51pm

re: #351 No Country For Old Haters

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Wasting your time. She’s a friend of Auernheimer, buys all his bullshit about being persecuted by the Jews. She’s also into the neo-reactionary movement, advocates for the return of feudalism and slave ownership.

356 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:49:12pm
357 Lidane  Jul 6, 2015 1:50:20pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

On what grounds? His involvement was national news, for fuck’s sake.

358 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:50:26pm

re: #354 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Barack Obama’s policies have given us a zombie economy where no matter what else happens, most Americans are falling behind,” Bush writes.

Can Jeb! identify an Obama “policy” that is causing “most Americans” to “fall behind”? Does Jeb! believe it’s the government’s role to make sure “most Americans” don’t “fall behind”? He sounds like some kind of Independent Socialist Liberal from Hippy Vermont.

359 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2015 1:51:16pm

re: #334 wrenchwench

Yup. I miss seeing him on Test Kitchen.

360 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:51:17pm

re: #357 Lidane

On what grounds? His involvement was national news, for fuck’s sake.

No idea. The link doesn’t say.

361 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:51:46pm

re: #354 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Bush says that lower taxes and fewer regulations — including a more market-oriented approach to health care — would inspire more economic growth.

What if, as a result of this approach, “most Americans” would continue to “fall behind”?

362 iossarian  Jul 6, 2015 1:52:46pm

re: #361 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What if, as a result of this approach, “most Americans” would continue to “fall behind”?

Questions without answers, my friend. Questions without answers.

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:52:49pm

heh:

364 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 1:54:23pm

re: #353 Lidane

Ooh snap! They moved it with one week’s notice. Can’t wait to hear the sputtering about this.

365 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 1:55:13pm

re: #354 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Bush says that lower taxes and fewer regulations — including a more market-oriented approach to health care — would inspire more economic growth.

Translation: We’ll fuck over worker safety, the environment and freelancers with pre-existing conditions to pay for a new fleet of yachts for America’s CEOs.

366 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 1:55:53pm

re: #357 Lidane

On what grounds? His involvement was national news, for fuck’s sake.

Because his client is sentenced to death, so his legal team is going to file everything they possibly can, no matter how slim a chance.

367 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2015 1:55:57pm
368 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 6, 2015 1:59:57pm

re: #353 Lidane

ICYMI:

Countdown to the next Trump lawsuit in 3…2…1….

“Thank you to all those who called to say they were canceling their cable TV service because ESPN loves illegals!!”

///

369 Saint Stephen  Jul 6, 2015 2:06:05pm

re: #327 HappyWarrior

And here’s a funny irony, if you will. The right wing has, as one of it’s current attack lines, that all those Democratic voters want free stuff; yet at the same time, the Republican politicians are always saying they want to lower taxes without explaining how things are going to get paid for; IOW, free stuff!

370 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 2:07:14pm

re: #369 Saint Stephen

And here’s a funny irony, if you will. The right wing has, as one of it’s current attack lines, that all those Democratic voters want free stuff; yet at the same time, the Republican politicians are always saying they want to lower taxes without explaining how things are going to get paid for; IOW, free stuff!

Good point.

372 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 2:09:09pm

Bears at the MN Zoo want you to f*ck off!:

Robin Ficker, a visitor from Maryland, said he was watching “the bears wrestling with each other and looking at the people” shortly after the zoo opened at 9 a.m. Then one of the animals “picked up from the bottom of the pool a rock that had to weigh 50 pounds. And while many people were standing there, he slammed it against the glass several times,” Ficker said.

373 Agnostick  Jul 6, 2015 2:09:24pm
374 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 2:11:54pm
375 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:16:03pm

re: #116 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Does Ben have a source for this?

His ass.

376 HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2015 2:17:26pm

re: #375 Romantic Heretic

His ass.

His ass is his most reliable source. It told him about how the left worships Rachel Dolezial.

377 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 2:21:41pm

re: #371 Kragar

Ash The Great @Ashlandjamison_

gay marriage is un holy

Luckily for Ash, bad grammar is only a venial sin. Six hail Marys and no Duck Dynasty reruns for the entire summer for that guy.

378 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:23:12pm

re: #150 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Goalposts. Moving.

That’s the best way to win!

379 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 2:24:00pm

re: #289 iossarian

Shame. The video of him catching up with the peleton in the Alps (?) set to classical music is awesome.

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Video

Okay…that was awesome.

380 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 2:32:03pm

The Duck Dynasty star alleged that atheists contradicted their supposed disbelief in God every time they used the Anno Domini dating system, which sets the birth of Jesus Christ as the first year.

“Whether you believe in him or not, every time you write down the day’s date you’re saying he’s here,” he remarked.

381 goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2015 2:32:53pm

So it’s been a couple of weeks since Chuck C Johnson filed his lawsuit against Gawker and there’s still no docket entry indicated that the summons that the court issued have even been attempted let alone actually served. Is his lawyer asleep at the switch?

382 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 6, 2015 2:33:46pm

re: #354 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Barack Obama’s policies have given us a zombie economy where no matter what else happens, most Americans are falling behind,” Bush writes.

…

Bush says that lower taxes and fewer regulations — including a more market-oriented approach to health care — would inspire more economic growth.

makes sense to me that bush’s response to a zombie economy would be voodoo economics

We tried a market-oriented approach to health care. We tried it for decades after every other industrialized nation had gone to some form of national health insurance. It was a failure for tens of millions of Americans.

Republicans are the Cargo Cult of politics.

383 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 2:34:10pm

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

So it’s been a couple of weeks since Chuck C Johnson filed his lawsuit against Gawker and there’s still no docket entry indicated that the summons that the court issued have even been attempted let alone actually served. Is his lawyer asleep at the switch?

His lawyer probably bilked him.

384 Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2015 2:35:31pm

And with that, goodnight, Lizards.

385 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:36:22pm

re: #274 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why arent you shivering in a death camp in siberia then?

‘Counting trees’ is the old Soviet term for that. There was nothing to do for entertainment except count trees.

386 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:38:09pm

re: #283 ObserverArt

I wonder what Nikki Haley’s is really thinking today?

Why did I want this job anyway? I could be doing honest work like selling used cars.

387 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 2:38:21pm

re: #380 Kragar

Whoa whao, back up Si Robertson. Who said we exist?

Deep thoughts!

388 TedStriker  Jul 6, 2015 2:39:21pm

re: #366 Kragar

Because his client is sentenced to death, so his legal team is going to file everything they possibly can, no matter how slim a chance.

The “throw everything against the wall to see if anything sticks” legal theory.

389 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 2:39:34pm

Is Ted Nugent in jail or dead yet? Just checking. Haven’t heard from Chuck Norris lately either…..He’s probably still in the dark.

390 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:45:03pm

re: #347 iossarian

My rules are simple, here they are:

1) Do not camp where there are bears
2) Do not swim where there are sharks*

* or alligators

The best advice I’ve ever read about surviving the outdoors.

391 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:49:26pm

re: #349 goddamnedfrank

‘Racist’ is an ethnic slur against white people.

No, cracker is an ethnic slur against white people. Racist is an accurate description of people who dislike other people because of their colour or culture.

I won’t use the accurate description of you, ma’am, but it involves a descriptor on your lack of intelligence and a crude word for a piece of the female anatomy.

392 dholmes32  Jul 6, 2015 2:49:40pm

re: #53 jaunte

Here’s a preview of the arguments of the rearguard action:

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Those questions have been answered on other websites.

There was a guy, named Samuel James, who works as a communications specialist for the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC). He posted a seven question list on Sunday, June 28 at his Patheos blog, which conveeeeeeniently does not have comments turned on. I sent him answers to his seven questions later that afternoon. Just checked and I still haven’t heard from Mr. James. So much for “communications.”

393 Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2015 2:52:59pm

re: #355 goddamnedfrank

Wasting your time. She’s a friend of Auernheimer, buys all his bullshit about being persecuted by the Jews. She’s also into the neo-reactionary movement, advocates for the return of feudalism and slave ownership.

She does realize that in a feudal society she would be property?

If she likes that she’s allowed. It’s a free country. But she shouldn’t force others into it.

394 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 3:04:29pm

re: #335 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It looks like you still don’t understand. A marginal tax rate of 39.6% means you’re half a slave and is worse than the Holocaust and Obamacare, but a Flat, Fair Tax rate of 18% on everything for everyone is Flat and Fair.

//////

395 De Kolta Chair  Jul 6, 2015 3:06:37pm

re: #353 Lidane

Countdown to the next Trump lawsuit in 3…2…1….

396 dholmes32  Jul 6, 2015 3:09:33pm

re: #388 TedStriker

In some states (I know, this is fed), the appeal of a death sentence is automatic. I’m of the opinion that in an issue of life and death, taking a second look should be automatic. Even in cases where it’s pretty clear what happened and who did it, as here.

Death is different, despite what some of our conservative Supreme Court justices *cough* Scalia *cough* think.

397 meteor  Jul 6, 2015 4:03:15pm

re: #14 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Could be good news if you’re a whale.

Mmmm, plankton.

398 John Vreeland  Jul 11, 2015 9:07:13pm

The US Navy traditionally runs a church service pennant over the US flag while services are in session. They currently have separate flags for jewish and xian services. It’s the only pennant that ever flies above the ensign.


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