Right Wingers Circulate Photoshop Fake of Young Hillary Clinton With a Confederate Flag

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This morning an iconic image of a 20-something Hillary Rodham in her Wellesley college dorm, wearing psychedelic pants, was “discovered” to have a Confederate flag in the background! Nobody ever noticed it before because we were all dazzled by the trip-inducing pattern of her pants.

Interestingly, the first photo to appear in my Twitter feed this morning was from @Bipartisanism, a liberal account. When I pointed out that the photo did not match other instances of the picture and that it was a Photoshop, he deleted the Tweet.

Confederate flag in the background? Who knew?

Wingnuts highlighted the flag, in case you were too tripped out by the pants:

But 5 seconds of Google image search showed that the flag was never in any of the previous images, particularly this one tagged by GettyImages at Huffington Post in 2012:

A Tineye search for the first instance of this real photo on the Internet leads back to our old friend zombietime, in April 15, 2008 (donotlinked)

You’d think if there was a Confederate flag in the background, zombie would have noticed? And you would think somebody might have noticed before today?

Admit it, you were all dazzled by the psychedelic pants!

UPDATE

First instance of the fake photo at this wingnut site (donotlinked)

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446 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 7:07:18pm

Great catch, Alouette.

2 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 7:13:11pm

“Theconservativetreehouse” is a far right site with ties to white supremacists, by the way.

3 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 7:14:16pm

Here’s another snapshot of Hillary taken at the same time, you will observe No Flag.

4 b.d.  Jul 6, 2015 7:15:43pm

But Hillary’s bowling trophy is real though……right?

5 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 7:16:54pm

She was a cute nerd.

6 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 7:19:43pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s another snapshot of Hillary taken at the same time, you will observe No Flag.

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She looks like some of the girls I went to high school with.

7 Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2015 7:19:51pm

So they’ve gone from misrepresenting evidence to fabricating it.

Yegods.

8 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 7:20:44pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

So they’ve gone from misrepresenting evidence to fabricating it.

Yegods.

This is just the latest instance of a long history of fakety fake fake shit.

9 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 7:21:17pm

This is what we need to do - catch these lying right wing operatives at their game and expose them. Big kudos to Vicious Babushka. Way to go.

10 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 7:21:49pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

This is what we need to do - catch these lying right wing operatives at their game and expose them. Big kudos to Vicious Babushka. Way to go.

This I heartily agree with.

11 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 7:21:55pm

Just saw a Mediaite editor retweet this.

12 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:22:37pm
13 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 6, 2015 7:22:56pm

I’ve posted that as a proactive “Public Service Posting” on my FB Timeline. Hopefully I can help keep somebody from beclowning themselves.

14 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 7:23:21pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

This is what we need to do - catch these lying right wing operatives at their game and expose them. Big kudos to Vicious Babushka. Way to go.

The best part is identifying the first appearance. So often these things just magically appear, and you don’t know from where.

15 Belafon  Jul 6, 2015 7:23:51pm

re: #5 b_sharp

She was a cute nerd.

Reminds me of this picture:

Margaret Hamilton

From en.wikipedia.org.

16 Dark_Falcon  Jul 6, 2015 7:23:57pm

re: #4 b.d.

But Hillary’s bowling trophy is real though……right?

Yeah. There were a number of places to go bowling in and around Park Ridge back in the day. Still are a couple, that I know of . I know Maine East had a bowling club back then, but I’m not sure if they still do.

The preceding references the Chicago suburb where Hillary Clinton grew up. It’s not meant to be hostile, just semi-informative.

17 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 7:24:23pm

Retweet the meme at the bottom of the article “You are too stupid to know how Google Image Search works”

18 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2015 7:26:11pm

Remember this Fakery from 2008?

19 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 7:27:45pm

re: #15 Belafon

Reminds me of this picture:

Margaret Hamilton

From en.wikipedia.org.

I loved nerd girls when I was young.

20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2015 7:28:49pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

Remember this Fakery from 2008?

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Shit, they even misspelled “Soetero”. They can’t keep their bullshit memes straight!

21 Drive By Commenter  Jul 6, 2015 7:30:45pm

Bird Seed for the Bird Brains. Bon appétit.

22 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 6, 2015 7:30:46pm

re: #15 Belafon

From Hancock, MI? The UP? Ifso, my mom probably knew her.

23 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 7:33:00pm
24 Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 6, 2015 7:33:39pm

If Hillary must be embarrassed about something, I suggest the pants.

25 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 7:35:02pm

re: #24 Iwouldprefernotto

If Hillary must be embarrassed about something, I suggest the pants.

I had pants similar to those in ‘70.

26 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 7:35:09pm

Me: “I made vegetarian mushroom pasta for dinner.”
Daughter: “But it has bacon in it.”
Me: “What’s your point?”
Daughter: *shrug*

27 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:37:10pm

SATIRE!!

28 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 7:38:43pm

re: #26 Kragar

Me: “I made vegetarian mushroom pasta for dinner.”
Daughter: “But it has bacon in it.”
Me: “What’s your point?”
Daughter: *shrug*

How do you know the mushrooms were vegetarian?

29 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 6, 2015 7:42:04pm

FYI:

Lubbock authorities should consider instituting a “Jonestown watch” around certain fundamentalist churches.

30 Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2015 7:42:11pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

How do you know the mushrooms were vegetarian?

Call any Vegetable and the chances are good…. That vegetable will respond too you……..

31 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:43:55pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel


Plus:

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton plans to dismiss an appeal challenging a Travis County judge’s February ruling that found the state’s ban on gay marriage to be unconstitutional.
mystatesman.com

32 Belafon  Jul 6, 2015 7:45:31pm

re: #31 jaunte

Sounds like Paxton’s going to be busy protecting his own butt, with the evidence the Texas Rangers found.

33 Kid A  Jul 6, 2015 7:46:05pm

What fucking bullshit. Great catch, Alouette. Get ready, y’all, this is only the beginning of this shit. Fucking wingnuts…

34 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:46:36pm

For some reason the code to embed tweets isn’t displaying for me. Anyone else having this problem?

35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2015 7:47:35pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

Lubbock Issues First Same-Sex Marriage License

first thing you know they’ll be issuing same sex drivers’ licenses

to dogs!

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 6, 2015 7:47:41pm

Confederate Flag or not, I want to know what those pants looked like in color! That’s the REAL scandal!!!!11

I don’t care at all for the Clintons - either of them - but I enjoy photos of historical figures “before they were famous”. Quasi-topical, the second photo down is really great IMO. The Clintons as a couple of kids:

historical photos on a click-bait site - Hillary was pretty damned sexy, TBH

Edit: Just FYI there are a lot of awesome photos at that link, and it’s not as bad as a lot of click-bait sites.

37 Kid A  Jul 6, 2015 7:49:47pm

re: #34 jaunte

Are your tweets protected? If so, that could be the issue.

38 Dark_Falcon  Jul 6, 2015 7:51:09pm

re: #34 jaunte

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For some reason the code to embed tweets isn’t displaying for me. Anyone else having this problem?

I didn’t have it last night, but that Goldberg tweet is a story by itself. Hopefully, breitbart.com will be so flaky that it will come to be seen by all as the fake news site it in fact is.

39 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:51:14pm

No, I haven’t changed any settings.

Apparently it’s widespread:

twitter.com

40 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 7:52:40pm

re: #39 jaunte

No, I haven’t changed any settings.

Apparently it’s widespread:

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twitter.com

GOOD GOD! He’s typing GIBBERISH!!!
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41 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 7:53:10pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

Geen embed-code!

42 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 7:53:40pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

FYI:

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Lubbock authorities should consider instituting a “Jonestown watch” around certain fundamentalist churches.

I laughed when I read this. Then I got to thinkin’ about it. And my heart filled with dread, because you’re serious and I trust your judgment.

Then I laughed again.

43 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 7:53:53pm

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

Those pants remind me of a pair of pants I bought for myself from Chess King in 1970. They were striped, but they also had a bit of a large houndstooth pattern as well, and they were brown, black and burgundy. They were also made of wool! I thought they were so groovy. I only wore them a couple of times because there was no way to match a shirt to them and they were itchy as hell, but they were so cool when I bought them.

44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2015 7:56:00pm

re: #43 stpaulbear

Those pants remind me of a pair of pants I bought for myself from Chess King in 1970. They were striped, but they also had a bit of a large houndstooth pattern as well, and they were brown, black and burgundy. They were also made of wool! I thought they were so groovy. I only wore them a couple of times because there was no way to match a shirt to them and they were itchy as hell, but they were so cool when I bought them.

Mine were brown and some kind of orangish-pink. 1972….

45 Lidane  Jul 6, 2015 7:56:01pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

More ‘splodey heads in the Lone Star State:

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2015 7:58:25pm

re: #45 Lidane

More ‘splodey heads in the Lone Star State:

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I think the wingnuts are going to be caught completely flat-footed by how quickly this is generally accepted, and they’re going to look like really bitter outliers even in pretty conservative areas. Please proceed….

47 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 7:58:28pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mine were brown and some kind of orangish-pink. 1972….

I think that color is now known as ‘Salmon’.

Back then, it really was orangish-pink.

48 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 8:02:27pm

re: #34 jaunte

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For some reason the code to embed tweets isn’t displaying for me. Anyone else having this problem?

It happens to me sometimes, but I figured it was from using my slow VPN connection. The embed code does load eventually. I have to wait almost a minute in some cases before it appears.

49 Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2015 8:06:17pm

re: #34 jaunte

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For some reason the code to embed tweets isn’t displaying for me. Anyone else having this problem?

There’s a much easier way to embed tweets at LGF - just right-click on the tweet’s timestamp, then “Copy Link” and paste the link into a comment. No need to use that “Embed Tweet” code. All you need is the link to the tweet.

50 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 8:07:26pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

That works. Thanks!

51 CleverToad  Jul 6, 2015 8:08:21pm

re: #25 b_sharp

As did we all. Pink and orange and yellow stripes. But those were tame next to the pair with large mustard-yellow flowers splashed artistically/erratically on a turquoise background.

Spouse says his worst pair were light blue bell-bottoms with alternating wide and narrow HORIZONTAL white stripes. Like you’d sat on a fresh-painted park bench. (Maybe the yellow flowers weren’t that bad after all…)

52 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 8:09:11pm
53 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:12:08pm

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think the wingnuts are going to be caught completely flat-footed by how quickly this is generally accepted, and they’re going to look like really bitter outliers even in pretty conservative areas. Please proceed….

That’s the problem with living in The Bubble - you keep being surprised that not everyone agrees with you, or thinks you’re not full of shit. They also mis-and/or overinterpret polls, so that if they see 40% of Americans oppose marriage equality, they assume those 40% will choose that hill to die on, rather than simply thinking, “Nah, don’t really like it, but it looks like that ship has sailed.”

54 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 6, 2015 8:13:53pm

It’s funny, if I’m honest with myself… If I’d have met Hillary in the 70’s I’d have liked her too. She seems like one of those interesting friends that you suddenly have a random sexy dream about and you think about asking her out for a week or two… And maybe you do or maybe you don’t, but you don’t look at her the same way ever again.

re: #47 stpaulbear

Truly those were some amazing times in style.

I was born at the very end of the 70’s, but I have childhood memories of goldenrod shag carpet, mustard-yellow and avocado green rotary phones, paisley wallpaper, and bright red corduroys. Some condemn these things as atrocities, but I’ve learned to see them as envelope-pushing. I still get a kick out of the fact that antique stores here in Texas have entire rooms dedicated to 70’s avocado green items.

“What were they thinking??!”, we say. They were thinking “Fuck it, let’s make pink and orange striped pants. We went to the Moon, goddammit!”

55 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 8:15:53pm

re: #51 CleverToad

As did we all. Pink and orange and yellow stripes. But those were tame next to the pair with large mustard-yellow flowers splashed artistically/erratically on a turquoise background.

Spouse says his worst pair were light blue bell-bottoms with alternating wide and narrow HORIZONTAL white stripes. Like you’d sat on a fresh-painted park bench. (Maybe the yellow flowers weren’t that bad after all…)

Ouch.

56 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:16:42pm
57 Belafon  Jul 6, 2015 8:18:57pm

I want a “Bernie or Hillary: I’m good with either one” sticker.

58 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:19:28pm

Ah, Chess King. My Mom bought me a sweater at Chess King. I never liked it. I was really surprised she’d bought it for me - it had an open V-neck big puffy sleeves, and just generally did not convey the type of manly manliness that I, a shy teenage boy, wished to project.

My sister-in-law, OTOH, loved it. It looked much more at home on her.

59 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:20:30pm

re: #56 darthstar

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Oh, man! I fucking LOVE that!!!!

60 b_sharp  Jul 6, 2015 8:20:34pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, Chess King. My Mom bought me a sweater at Chess King. I never liked it. I was really surprised she’d bought it for me - it had an open V-neck big puffy sleeves, and just generally did not convey the type of manly manliness that I, a shy teenage boy, wished to project.

My sister-in-law, OTOH, loved it. It looked much more at home on her.

Disco damned near killed us in the ’70s.

61 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 8:21:09pm

re: #56 darthstar

Half the people I follow on facebook would put that on their car. I don’t have any certified wingnut friends or family, and I can’t log on without someone sharing some Bernie meme. I just hope they don’t all get bitter and negative if Hillary wins (I’m not saying ‘when’ Hillary wins any more).

62 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 6, 2015 8:21:30pm

re: #54 Pawn of the Oppressor

It’s funny, if I’m honest with myself… If I’d have met Hillary in the 70’s I’d have liked her too. She seems like one of those interesting friends that you suddenly have a random sexy dream about and you think about asking her out for a week or two… And maybe you do or maybe you don’t, but you don’t look at her the same way ever again.

Truly those were some amazing times in style.

I was born at the very end of the 70’s, but I have childhood memories of goldenrod shag carpet, mustard-yellow and avocado green rotary phones, paisley wallpaper, and bright red corduroys. Some condemn these things as atrocities, but I’ve learned to see them as envelope-pushing. I still get a kick out of the fact that antique stores here in Texas have entire rooms dedicated to 70’s avocado green items.

“What were they thinking??!”, we say. They were thinking “Fuck it, let’s make pink and orange striped pants. We went to the Moon, goddammit!”

I had an apartment when I stationed at Ft. Lewis, Washington. Would have been mid 90’s or so. Place was called not “The Evergreens”, or “Mountain View” or any of 100 names that would be appropriate to the area. It was called the “Kon Tiki” and had the tiki statues, lanterns and pavilions to match.

The best part is that the apartment (and it was a very nice apartment) was the Harvest Gold deep shag carpet, and the appliances and fixtures were Avocado Green. Thing is, it wasn’t old stuff, it looked like it was just installed a year or so ago.

I think that there was something in the dyes that made that stuff last forever.

RBS

63 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:21:52pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, man! I fucking LOVE that!!!!

I’m getting it put on a shirt.

64 blueraven  Jul 6, 2015 8:23:46pm

re: #34 jaunte

That fake quote at Brietbart came from this guy

He really makes it look like Rhodes actually said the words in quote marks.

He didn’t.

Breitbart (Joel Pollak) then takes his tweet as gospel and prints in the article as truth.
Ah, Rightwing media!

65 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:24:20pm

re: #60 b_sharp

Disco damned near killed us in the ’70s.

I did have a black Quiana shirt. That thing felt soooo good. I thought I looked good in it. The Not-Yet Mrs. FBW liked it, too.

66 Great White Snark  Jul 6, 2015 8:25:07pm

re: #57 Belafon

I want a “Bernie or Hillary: I’m good with either one” sticker.

Heh. Seriously might get him as a running mate, Sanders VP?

67 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 6, 2015 8:26:23pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

I did have a black Quiana shirt. That thing felt soooo good. I thought I looked good in it. The Not-Yet Mrs. FBW liked it, too.

I had a dark green one… Big sleeves, 4 button cuffs, and a collar that generated positive lift in a brisk headwind.

RBS

68 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:27:10pm

re: #63 darthstar

I’m getting it put on a shirt.

Guess I won’t steal it to post on FB, then.

69 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:27:15pm

re: #60 b_sharp

Disco damned near killed us in the ’70s.

I was busing tables in the late 70s and early 80s…my mom bought me a pair of black slacks for work - Angel Flights…no pockets, made my 18 year old package stand out like I was Harry Fucking Reems. Yeah, I wore it as I bused tables at the Red Lion….Redding’s fanciest restaurant at the time.

70 Belafon  Jul 6, 2015 8:27:30pm

re: #66 Great White Snark

Heh. Seriously might get him as a running mate, Sanders VP?

I think one of the Castro brothers here in Texas would be a good running mate for either one of them.

Plus, like Warren, if Sanders isn’t the presidential candidate, it would be better to have him in the Senate.

71 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 8:28:23pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, Chess King. My Mom bought me a sweater at Chess King. I never liked it. I was really surprised she’d bought it for me - it had an open V-neck big puffy sleeves, and just generally did not convey the type of manly manliness that I, a shy teenage boy, wished to project.

My sister-in-law, OTOH, loved it. It looked much more at home on her.

My grandma (mom’s mom) lived with us all of my young life until she passed away. She spent a LOT of time sewing and we’d make regular trips to Minnesota Mill to buy fabric for her projects. In junior high school, I really got into wild paisley patterns so I’d go digging through the remnant piles for the craziest stuff I could find. I wish I had some pictures wearing those shirts.

72 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:29:25pm

Hey, I’ve noticed that when I’m on my Surface 3, on Chrome, if I use the touchscreen feature while on LGF, I can’t use the touchpad anymore.

73 Pip's Squeak  Jul 6, 2015 8:32:22pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s Dutch.

74 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 6, 2015 8:35:18pm

re: #69 darthstar

I was busing tables in the late 70s and early 80s…my mom bought me a pair of black slacks for work - Angel Flights…no pockets, made my 18 year old package stand out like I was Harry Fucking Reems. Yeah, I wore it as I bused tables at the Red Lion….Redding’s fanciest restaurant at the time.

Did somebody say Angels Flight?

75 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 6, 2015 8:36:44pm

Why would someone think Hillary, a Yankee, would have the Beauregard flag? Perhaps made by an ignoramus who assumed she was from Arkansas?

76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 8:38:14pm

re: #71 stpaulbear

My grandma (mom’s mom) lived with us all of my young life until she passed away. She spent a LOT of time sewing and we’d make regular trips to Minnesota Mill to buy fabric for her projects. In junior high school, I really got into wild paisley patterns so I’d go digging through the remnant piles for the craziest stuff I could find. I wish I had some pictures wearing those shirts.

i had two white shirts with purple paisley patterns when I was in junior high. No buttons, just a half-length zipper with a O-shaped pull. I wore one of them for my school picture in ‘70 or ‘71, so it’s been immortalized. With a necktie, too, since we boys had to wear one for the photos.

Now I look at it and think, why? What was I thinking?

77 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 8:38:15pm
78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2015 8:38:21pm

re: #61 stpaulbear

Half the people I follow on facebook would put that on their car. I don’t have any certified wingnut friends or family, and I can’t log on without someone sharing some Bernie meme. I just hope they don’t all get bitter and negative if Hillary wins (I’m not saying ‘when’ Hillary wins any more).

I wasn’t enthusiastic about Bernie getting in because I accepted the conventional wisdom that he couldn’t possibly get elected, but I thought he might peel off some new class of PUMAs. Really, though—what can the GOP say about him that they aren’t going to say about Hillary? Reality has no place in their rhetoric. Hasn’t since 1988.

79 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2015 8:38:32pm

re: #75 BlueSpotinAL

Why would someone think Hillary, a Yankee, would have the Beauregard flag? Perhaps made by an ignoramus who assumed she was from Arkansas?

I think you’re making the mistake of thinking about it.
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80 petesh  Jul 6, 2015 8:38:51pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

How do you know the mushrooms were vegetarian?

I’ve seen a person eat a mushroom, I’ve even been one, but even after that I never saw a mushroom eat a person, or any other mammal for that matter.

81 jaunte  Jul 6, 2015 8:39:49pm

re: #75 BlueSpotinAL

Why would someone think Hillary, a Yankee, would have the Beauregard flag? Perhaps made by an ignoramus who assumed she was from Arkansas?

Mixing totems; they think Hillary (a presumed Lib totem) in proximity to that flag will take the stink off.

82 Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2015 8:39:55pm

Excellent post VB!!

Someone should put that painting of CCJ pooping in the photo.

83 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 6, 2015 8:41:02pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. My official work week starts tomorrow. :)

And remember, if the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. /Red_Green

RBS

84 bratwurst  Jul 6, 2015 8:41:53pm

re: #66 Great White Snark

Heh. Seriously might get him as a running mate, Sanders VP?

Come on now…do you REALLY imagine that Hillary is going to choose someone older than herself, well to her left AND from a small state she already has wrapped up?

85 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:42:08pm

One of my fb friends posted a video of the guy from “Family Guy” riding a dolphin naked set to so called “house music” (she likes that shit)…it actually woke Fozzie up from his sleep…he stared at the TV for a sec, then realized it was coming from my computer and gave me the dirtiest look. I replayed it and taped him…once I get it onto Youtube I’ll share it. Fucking hilarious.

86 stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2015 8:43:07pm

Last 70’s clothing post then off to bed:

Chess King had some really cool patchwork winter scarves that I couldn’t afford at the time. My grandma had a bag full of rectangular fabric scraps, so I went through the bag and laid a bunch out in a pattern

patchwork winter scarf

. My grandma sewed them all together and I put the fringes on each end. I still have it, and I still wear it around Christmas.

Edit: my favorite square is the pink one with little giraffes, second square up from the bottom. I can still remember my little sister’s clothes that some of the squares came from.

87 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:44:16pm

re: #85 darthstar

One of my fb friends posted a video of the guy from “Family Guy” riding a dolphin naked set to so called “house music” (she likes that shit)…it actually woke Fozzie up from his sleep…he stared at the TV for a sec, then realized it was coming from my computer and gave me the dirtiest look. I replayed it and taped him…once I get it onto Youtube I’ll share it. Fucking hilarious.

Here it is…transcript is as follows:
Wha? What is that crap?
…
Is it the TV?
…
No…it’s coming from you!

…

88 darthstar  Jul 6, 2015 8:44:50pm

re: #86 stpaulbear

That looks like the blanket Fozzie’s on in my video I just posted.

89 Great White Snark  Jul 6, 2015 8:47:05pm

re: #84 bratwurst

Probably not yet we must admit the strangest things do happen sometimes.

90 bratwurst  Jul 6, 2015 8:51:35pm

re: #89 Great White Snark

Probably not yet we must admit the strangest things do happen sometimes.

The good news is that you no longer have to be concerned about a Hillary coronation. She is going to have to do some work to get the nomination…especially if, as rumored, Joe Biden gets in the race.

91 bratwurst  Jul 6, 2015 8:57:16pm

Anyone up for a shaggy dog story?

Forget What I Said. That Scott Walker Call? Never Happened

Last Wednesday, Stephen Moore, a scholar at the Heritage Foundation who is an outspoken supporter of an immigration overhaul, described a recent telephone call with Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, in which he said Mr. Walker had assured him he had not completely renounced his earlier support for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

On Sunday, after three days of pressure from Mr. Walker’s aides, Mr. Moore said that he had “misspoken” when recounting his call with Mr. Walker — and that the call had never actually taken place.

I am SHOCKED someone associated with Heritage might be lacking in integrity! /

92 Unabogie  Jul 6, 2015 8:58:27pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

“Theconservativetreehouse” is a far right site with ties to white supremacists, by the way.

The second part is redundant. Are there any far right wing sites, e.g. Breitbart, Daily Caller, National Review, etc. that don’t dally with the racists?

93 Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2015 9:00:09pm

Walker office already acts as if records exemption is law

Gov. Scott Walker announced over the weekend that Republicans were abandoning their plan to create new exceptions to the state’s open records law, but for months the all-but-certain presidential candidate has been operating as if one exemption already was in place.

Two months ago, Walker declined to release records related to his proposal to rewrite the University of Wisconsin System’s mission statement and erase the Wisconsin Idea from state law. He argued he didn’t have to provide those records to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and others because they were part of his office’s internal deliberations.

The Progressive magazine and the liberal Center for Media and Democracy sued Walker over those denials. The cases have been combined, and the litigation is pending in Dane County Circuit Court.

94 zerosumgame0005  Jul 6, 2015 9:03:58pm

re: #56 darthstar

um, Bernie has a hell of a lot more sense and class then you do

95 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 9:07:21pm

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

Sup, commenter with six comments and negative six karma! How’s it goin’?

96 Belafon  Jul 6, 2015 9:08:14pm

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

That’s why he’s running for office and we’re commenting on a blog. Care to join us?

97 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 9:08:30pm

Go Charlie, GO!

98 BeachDem  Jul 6, 2015 9:08:54pm

re: #90 bratwurst

The good news is that you no longer have to be concerned about a Hillary coronation. She is going to have to do some work to get the nomination…especially if, as rumored, Joe Biden gets in the race.

Private Comment

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Hilary’s campaign is working hard in the four early primary states. Even though this is South Carolina, which will never vote Democratic in the general, Hillary knows she can’t afford to lose the primary here like she did in 2008.

99 Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2015 9:12:54pm

All I hear is how Hillary isn’t talking. So what? All talking will do is give ammunition to the 16 clowns on the other side.

100 #FergusonFireside  Jul 6, 2015 9:23:52pm

Some asshole shot and killed the gator that ate the Darwin Award winner.

101 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 9:25:08pm

re: #99 Amory Blaine

All I hear is how Hillary isn’t talking. So what? All talking will do is give ammunition to the 16 clowns on the other side.

She doesn’t need to say anything at this point. It’s better to let the GOP wackjobs fall all over their tongues trying to distinguish themselves from each other. As soon as she opens her mouth, they’ll all have a common enemy and will stop trying to out-rightwing each other.

102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 9:34:45pm

gotnwes.com is back online, I’m happy to report. I’m waiting for my hosting company to tell me what happened.

103 bratwurst  Jul 6, 2015 9:35:21pm

re: #84 bratwurst

Come on now…do you REALLY imagine that Hillary is going to choose someone older than herself, well to her left AND from a small state she already has wrapped up?

Hey zerosumgame0005, I’d love to know what made this post of mine worthy of a downding. Do you think Hillary would choose a running mate older than herself? Do you think she’d choose one far to her left? Do you think she’d choose a running mate from a small dark blue state? Please enlighten me.

104 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 9:45:57pm

re: #84 bratwurst

Come on now…do you REALLY imagine that Hillary is going to choose someone older than herself, well to her left AND from a small state she already has wrapped up?

No but she could pick the other legislator like him - Senator Tammy Baldwin. She’s a good, honest, leftist Democrat who’s been pushing single payer as long as I’ve known her. She’s also a lesbian which might be a big help with the left for Hillary, more than enough to offset some of the right wing hate.

105 bratwurst  Jul 6, 2015 9:50:27pm

re: #104 William Lewis

No but she could pick the other legislator like him - Senator Tammy Baldwin. She’s a good, honest, leftist Democrat who’s been pushing single payer as long as I’ve known her. She’s also a lesbian which might be a big help with the left for Hillary, more than enough to offset some of the right wing hate.

She is great…not to mention younger and from a purple state. Having said that, impossible to imagine an all female ticket. Not to say that it should be any kind of issue, just that this is not how the first female president is likely to get elected.

106 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 9:51:58pm

I and a bunch of other dudes were really hoping for a Mayweather loss while we were waiting for Umphrey’s McGee to take the stage in Las Vegas. He won the fight… NOT!

107 Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2015 10:05:51pm

I just ate half of a watermelon.
*burp

Water carrier for Walker drops a giant lie into the states largest newspaper without one shred of evidence to back up his ridiculous claims.

Wisconsin’s business climate outshines Minnesota

President Barack Obama addressed that question during a visit to Wisconsin last week. In his mind, comparing the Wisconsin and Minnesota economies discredits Republican governor and presidential hopeful Scott Walker’s reforms and promotes those pursued by progressive Democrats like him and Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton.

The problem is that any history professor worth his or her salt will tell you it is far too early in Walker’s tenure to determine how his pro-business reforms have impacted Wisconsin’s long-term economic competitiveness. That is especially true when you consider that Walker’s first term was marred by protests and a series of recall elections that delayed a lot of business decisions because of the uncertainty they created.

Even so, many indicators are bullish on Wisconsin’s future economic prospects. For example, business optimism is sky high and many leading rankings on both business climate and economic outlook have shown dramatic improvement for Wisconsin since 2011 when Walker took office. Minnesota hasn’t done nearly as well in many of those same rankings.

This is his evidence. Business optimism.

Kurt R. Bauer is president and chief executive officer of Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce.

Pathetic Clown in Costume
108 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2015 10:07:17pm

re: #52 jaunte

That’s going to light my FB page on FIRE.

109 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2015 10:10:24pm

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

um, Bernie has a hell of a lot more sense and class then* you do

*than

110 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 10:28:27pm

Let it be known that Facebook is openly hostile to users sharing archive dot org links. I’ve twice had to go through fairly rigorous Facebook captchas - clicking on pictures of lions and tigers - to post archive dot org links in private Facebook messages.

111 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 10:35:13pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

Let it be known that Facebook is openly hostile to users sharing archive dot org links. I’ve twice had to go through fairly rigorous Facebook captchas - clicking on pictures of lions and tigers - to post archive dot org links in private Facebook messages.

Interesting. China also blocks archive.org. Zuck was in China recently trying to persuade China to unblock Facebook. Could all this be connected?

Just asking questions.
/

112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 10:39:29pm

OT, I finished listening to the CCJ interview with Adam Carolla. Not much new there, but now he says GotNewsDotCom has 6,000 researchers. That’s 1,000 more than he said a couple of weeks ago.

I gather CCJ is trying a new tactic to drive people to his website — appear on podcasts and radio shows. Carolla must have mentioned the website at least a half dozen times during the podcast.

Carolla also described GotNewsDotCom as a “new website.” It’s a year old.

Another softball interview. The Milo interview was way more interesting.

113 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 10:42:51pm

re: #112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I emailed that twit and said, truthfully, that I’d never heard of him before and that since he was into supporting white supremacists - aka Upchuck - I’d never listen to him and would tell people to avoid him. Doubt he’ll care but it made me feel a bit better.

114 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 10:53:49pm

re: #113 William Lewis

I emailed that twit and said, truthfully, that I’d never heard of him before and that since he was into supporting white supremacists - aka Upchuck - I’d never listen to him and would tell people to avoid him. Doubt he’ll care but it made me feel a bit better.

Carolla is another one of those conservatives who feels put upon whenever someone from “The Left” objects to his views.He went on and on about some PBS station in Cali not running an interview with him about his book, because the interview “didn’t go the way they wanted.” Clearly, he’s buying CCJ’s contention that Twitter is censoring him, because Twitter wants to be a LeftWing/SJW vehicle only. They failed to mention that Dim Jim, Dana L, Dan Riehl and a host of other cons are still on Twitter, unbanned and uncensored because they, like, follow the rules.

Crybabies, the both of them.

CCJ said he filed a complaint with the FCC because Twitter favored net neutrality, but net neutrality says no one can be censored, so Twitter is something something something. And his lawsuit against Twitter is still pending.

115 teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2015 11:01:30pm
116 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 11:05:11pm

Just reading a thing about tanks. He mentioned how the classic saying is “don’t volunteer for anything” - but sometime if you do you get the best jobs.

I remembered being at basic training for the Armor School at Ft. Knox. It was saturday and everyone would have a detail. We were asked for volunteers for “cleaning” duty. I raised my hand.

I got sent to the Armor museum. I spent the day dusting a Tiger tank and Patton’s car. It was the most wonderful day of my time at Ft. Knox.

Those who didn’t volunteer? They spent the day picking up litter on the main road into the post… :LOL:

Sometimes there is a delight in doing what you’ll have to anyway.

117 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 6, 2015 11:09:26pm

re: #116 William Lewis

I was reading a fascinating book called Hitler’s Panzers. It was all about the development and then the de-evolution of Germany’s armored force in WW2. What surprised me was first, I had forgotten how few Tiger tanks were made, and second, they really held up. There weren’t too many battlefield losses, in comparison with abandoned vehicles. You would think they had to scout ahead just to find bridges that would hold them.

118 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:15:16pm

re: #116 William Lewis

Back when I was in Comm battalion, I was senior corporal and the aide to our Platoon Sgt. We noticed that any time we called for volunteers, the same two Marines always jumped to while everyone else took their sweet ass time to respond.

So one Friday morning, the Platoon Sgt told me to handle it.

“Hey, I need 2 volunteers!”

The same 2 guys came right over.

“OK, you guys take off. We’ll see you Monday. Everyone else, FALL IN! We’re doing a Field Day of the Office, start pulling everything out from the walls!”

119 William Lewis  Jul 6, 2015 11:18:08pm

re: #118 Kragar

Back when I was in Comm battalion, I was senior corporal and the aide to our Platoon Sgt. We noticed that any time we called for volunteers, the same two Marines always jumped to while everyone else took their sweet ass time to respond.

So one Friday morning, the Platoon Sgt told me to handle it.

“Hey, I need 2 volunteers!”

The same 2 guys came right over.

“OK, you guys take off. We’ll see you Monday. Everyone else, FALL IN! We’re doing a Field Day of the Office, start pulling everything out from the walls!”

Good way to handle that, NCO.

120 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:18:36pm

re: #117 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I was reading a fascinating book called Hitler’s Panzers. It was all about the development and then the de-evolution of Germany’s armored force in WW2. What surprised me was first, I had forgotten how few Tiger tanks were made, and second, they really held up. There weren’t too many battlefield losses, in comparison with abandoned vehicles. You would think they had to scout ahead just to find bridges that would hold them.

The Germans had some great tanks, but they lacked the resources to build and run them late in the war.

The early marks of Panzers were more armored fighting vehicles, lacking anti-armor cannons, relying on heavy machine guns and light automatic cannons

121 Kragar  Jul 6, 2015 11:19:22pm

re: #119 William Lewis

Good way to handle that, NCO.

Never had volunteer problems after that either.

122 Cheechako  Jul 6, 2015 11:23:12pm

re: #116 William Lewis

When I was in basic training there was a real push for “truck drivers”. Everyone thought the drivers would be pushing brooms. I reluctantly volunteered and found out it really was driving a 2 ton stake truck hauling the trainees out to the various ranges. It was easy. Drive the truck out to the range and sit around until it was time to go back. When our basic company had base guard duty I got to drive the Lt. around in a jeep.

I missed more than half the basic training (and PT!) while I was at Basic at Ft. Dix,

123 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 11:23:26pm

re: #118 Kragar

Back when I was in Comm battalion, I was senior corporal and the aide to our Platoon Sgt. We noticed that any time we called for volunteers, the same two Marines always jumped to while everyone else took their sweet ass time to respond.

So one Friday morning, the Platoon Sgt told me to handle it.

“Hey, I need 2 volunteers!”

The same 2 guys came right over.

“OK, you guys take off. We’ll see you Monday. Everyone else, FALL IN! We’re doing a Field Day of the Office, start pulling everything out from the walls!”

I have to share this with my grandniece. She’s in basic right now.

124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2015 11:25:14pm

bbl

Time to give a final exam to the sophomore listening comp classes.

125 Ace-o-aces  Jul 6, 2015 11:29:36pm
126 freetoken  Jul 7, 2015 12:40:39am

re: #34 jaunte

Embedded ImageFor some reason the code to embed tweets isn’t displaying for me. Anyone else having this problem?

Yup, had that problem earlier today.

All these software toys…. they are not so durable.

In my dystopic vision of the future, someone in the 23rd century will have no idea what happened in the late 20th and early 21st centuries because everything was put into electrons that will be gone, gone, gone….

127 Mentis Fugit  Jul 7, 2015 1:18:50am

The 70s, Kiwi style.

…

I had at least one pair of Stubbies. They weren’t brown, but everything else is one hundred percent accurate.

128 Mentis Fugit  Jul 7, 2015 2:23:16am

Oh Gawd, the preview pic on that video. I’m sorry, so deeply and truly sorry. Trust me, it was a TV commercial from free-to-air primetime.

129 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 2:24:02am

re: #128 Mentis Fugit

Oh Gawd, the preview pic on that video. I’m sorry, so deeply and truly sorry. Trust me, it was a TV commercial from free-to-air primetime.

Yeah, I thought LGF was a no-crack zone.

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 2:59:04am

The sad thing about this lame-assed attempt at a smear is that it misses the whole point of the discussion. The private display of the Confederate flag has never been questioned, just the appropriateness of flying one on government property.

131 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 3:08:43am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The sad thing about this lame-assed attempt at a smear is that it missied the whole point of the discussion. The private display of the Confederate flag has never been questioned, just the appropriateness of flying one on government property.

You are expecting wingnuts to base their statements on real facts.

132 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 3:10:32am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You are expecting wingnuts to base their statements on real facts.

Just as they are convinced that the Government is going to force churches to perform gay marriages.

133 Bird in the Paw  Jul 7, 2015 3:57:38am

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

Lubbock authorities should consider instituting a “Jonestown watch” around certain fundamentalist churches.

Why? Spontaneous self-culling of fundies is to be encouraged.

134 Bird in the Paw  Jul 7, 2015 4:17:33am

re: #110 teleskiguy

Let it be known that Facebook is openly hostile to users sharing archive dot org links. I’ve twice had to go through fairly rigorous Facebook captchas - clicking on pictures of lions and tigers - to post archive dot org links in private Facebook messages.

No bears? Ursoids unite.

135 Dark_Falcon  Jul 7, 2015 4:22:39am

re: #100 #FergusonFireside

Some asshole shot and killed the gator that ate the Darwin Award winner.

He had to, Stanley. Once an alligator or crocodile eats a person, they are far more likely to do it again, so its a public safety thing. Also, the reptile needs to be killed so the coroner can examine its bite pattern to confirm cause-of-death, so its also a legal thing.

136 wrenchwench  Jul 7, 2015 4:42:51am

WOOLY BEE:

137 Dark_Falcon  Jul 7, 2015 4:55:06am

And before I go to work, I offer this bit of comedy:

Evangelical Christians create their own holy version of Facebook

Let the wingnut mocking begin!

BBT

138 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 4:56:19am

Good morning Lizardia!

I’m glad to see the “Hillary Confederate Flag photo is a Fake” going viral on Twitter. The fake photo is still getting lots of RT’s to be sure, by the usual swarm of idiots most of whom I have blocked.

Sad to say, liberals (I think we used to call them “moonbats”) are not immune to this same type of Photoshop fakery. I keep seeing this fake photo of Scottt Walker wearing women’s underwear and making the nazi salute while sprawled on a swastika rug. It gets sent to me at least a couple of times a week but I have to inform people that it’s a fake.

More Fake Fakeness, the “Columbia Foreign Student ID Card” shown earlier in this thread, which was actually copied from a German student’s ID. So lame that it contained the same ID# as the original ID, misspelled “Soetero” and barcodes did not appear on Columbia IDs until 1996.

I think we should have an archive of all the Fake Fakenesses that have been circulating on both sides just to keep track of them all.

139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 5:00:53am

My sites are down again. I haz a sad.

140 sagehen  Jul 7, 2015 5:13:09am

Eugene Robinson just told a joke on Morning Joe that’s going to get him in trouble.

Angela Merkel is going to Greece to settle this mess. She’s at the airport, getting her passport stamped…

customs/immigration: Name?
AM: Angela Merkel
CI: Age?
AM: 56.
CI: Occupation?
AM: Not yet.

141 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 5:19:53am

re: #140 sagehen

Eugene Robinson just told a joke on Morning Joe that’s going to get him in trouble.

Angela Merkel is going to Greece to settle this mess. She’s at the airport, getting her passport stamped…

customs/immigration: Name?
AM: Angela Merkel
CI: Age?
AM: 56.
CI: Occupation?
AM: Not yet.

[Insert of Battle of Crete joke here.]

142 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 5:29:42am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

i had two white shirts with purple paisley patterns when I was in junior high. No buttons, just a half-length zipper with a O-shaped pull. I wore one of them for my school picture in ‘70 or ‘71, so it’s been immortalized. With a necktie, too, since we boys had to wear one for the photos.

Now I look at it and think, why? What was I thinking?

Highschool

Me in the 70’s. I’m the guy in the background :-)

143 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 5:31:10am

re: #142 Eventual Carrion

We did not have MTV back then to tell us all how to dress and do our hair…

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 5:32:30am

re: #117 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I was reading a fascinating book called Hitler’s Panzers. It was all about the development and then the de-evolution of Germany’s armored force in WW2. What surprised me was first, I had forgotten how few Tiger tanks were made, and second, they really held up. There weren’t too many battlefield losses, in comparison with abandoned vehicles. You would think they had to scout ahead just to find bridges that would hold them.

They did have to do that. And it’s one reason the various bridges in Europe (or at least the ones I saw in Germany) are marked with weight limits to help with moving tanks and other military stuff around.

And the Germans had a very well developed tank recovery and repair service in their military. Excellent to the point where they had to send tanks back to the factories for repair.

It’s one reason Rommel lasted as long as he did in North Africa since if he held the battlefield they could recover and put back into service most of their disabled tanks as well as salvage and use British equipment. I remember reading in one book that British infantry in one battle were specifically setting abandoned German tanks on fire to prevent their later recovery.

145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 5:37:01am

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

A Russian buddy tells me that in his basic training the drill sergeant started out by saying: “Do you know why we won WWII? Because you can repair a T-34 with a pair of pliers and some baling wire!”

146 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 5:43:05am

re: #140 sagehen<m>

Eugene Robinson just told a joke on Morning Joe that’s going to get him in trouble.

Angela Merkel is going to Greece to settle this mess. She’s at the airport, getting her passport stamped…

customs/immigration: Name?
AM: Angela Merkel
CI: Age?
AM: 56.
CI: Occupation?
AM: Not yet.

Heh. There’s a similar joke here in the Czech Republic regarding Vladimir Putin - the punchline being:

CI: Occupation?
VP: No, just tourism.

Meanwhile in regard to Greece, if this is indeed the case, then the Greek government is a bunch of colossal fuckups:

I simply, for the life of me, cannot understand what their game is.

*smh*

147 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 5:45:46am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

Their game is to extract the most concessions from creditors. Force them to write down debt. And then make them write down some more debt; their only threat is Grexit and even that isn’t credible since an alternative currency would take months to set up, which would leave all businesses and individuals and the government relying on a substitute currency, which would either be the euro or dollar.

148 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 5:46:38am
149 De Kolta Chair  Jul 7, 2015 5:49:06am

Good morrow lizards

A happy 75th birthday to Ringo Starr!
150 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 5:50:48am

re: #147 lawhawk

Their game is to extract the most concessions from creditors. Force them to write down debt. And then make them write down some more debt; their only threat is Grexit and even that isn’t credible since an alternative currency would take months to set up, which would leave all businesses and individuals and the government relying on a substitute currency, which would either be the euro or dollar.

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I don’t know if that’s gonna work on Greece’s part. The majority of the EZ countries are pretty much at the end of their patience and wanting to cut Greece loose - they now perceive Greece as a millstone around their collective neck.

151 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 5:53:10am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know if that’s gonna work on Greece’s part. The majority of the EZ countries are pretty much at the end of their patience and wanting to cut Greece loose - they now perceive Greece as a millstone around their collective neck.

What happens if the Greek economy totally crashes out though? I expect in part you’d see a sudden influx of refugees into neighboring countries of people looking for work or at least a way to get some stability and basic resources.

152 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 5:53:57am

re: #148 lawhawk

Earlier this year, Russell Taylor, the former director of the Jared Foundation started by Fogle, was arrested in a child pornography case. fox59.com

Ugh. So fucking creepy.

153 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 5:55:16am

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

And before I go to work, I offer this bit of comedy:

Evangelical Christians create their own holy version of Facebook

Let the wingnut mocking begin!

BBT

I’m sure it will be a smashing hit just like Reaganbook was.

154 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 5:55:51am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

[snip]

Meanwhile in regard to Greece, if this is indeed the case, then the Greek government is a bunch of colossal fuckups:

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I simply, for the life of me, cannot understand what their game is.

*smh*

They’re stalling for time while they build a large, hollow, wooden horse.

155 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 5:56:52am
156 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:00:39am

re: #151 Feline Fearless Leader

What happens if the Greek economy totally crashes out though? I expect in part you’d see a sudden influx of refugees into neighboring countries of people looking for work or at least a way to get some stability and basic resources.

One idea that’s being floated around is no more bailouts, kick Greece out of the EZ (not the EU, mind you), offer Greece humanitarian aid, and offer investment assistance.

Earlier today, it was reported that of the 19 EZ countries, 15 were ready to say “Adieu” to Greece. I personally don’t doubt that for one minute. Even though the Czech Republic isn’t part of the EZ, the general attitude among Czechs is “fuck ‘em.”

A German official admitted earlier today that admitting Greece into the Eurozone was “a mistake”. I think the Germans at least, along with the Baltic States, Slovakia certainly, and quite a few others are simply at the end of their patience with Greece. It’s a money pit, basically.

157 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:01:03am

re: #154 Eventual Carrion

They’re stalling for time while they build a large, hollow, wooden horse.

LOLOL

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 6:02:08am
159 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 6:03:16am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

One idea that’s being floated around is no more bailouts, kick Greece out of the EZ (not the EU, mind you), offer Greece humanitarian aid, and offer investment assistance.

Earlier today, it was reported that of the 19 EZ countries, 15 were ready to say “Adieu” to Greece. I personally don’t doubt that for one minute. Even though the Czech Republic isn’t part of the EZ, the general attitude among Czechs is “fuck ‘em.”

A German official admitted earlier today that admitting Greece into the Eurozone was “a mistake”. I think the Germans at least, along with the Baltic States, Slovakia certainly, and quite a few others are simply at the end of their patience with Greece. It’s a money pit, basically.

I heard from someone that if Greece gets kicked out of the EZ that somehow Putin is going to step in and provide some sort of support. In exchange for what I am not sure.

160 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:04:21am

Sad news, ‘80’s actress Amanda Peterson has passed away. There were very vague rumors not long ago that she wasn’t well, but no real details so far.

She starred in the movie Can’t Buy Me Love with Patrick Peterson (who played quite the dork in the movie before moving on to better things as Dr. McDreamy in that doctor show).

161 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:05:17am

re: #140 sagehen

Eugene Robinson just told a joke on Morning Joe that’s going to get him in trouble.

Angela Merkel is going to Greece to settle this mess. She’s at the airport, getting her passport stamped…

customs/immigration: Name?
AM: Angela Merkel
CI: Age?
AM: 56.
CI: Occupation?
AM: Not yet.

Took me a second or two.

162 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:06:05am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

Outrage!!! Appeasement!!!111

163 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:07:54am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

One idea that’s being floated around is no more bailouts, kick Greece out of the EZ (not the EU, mind you), offer Greece humanitarian aid, and offer investment assistance.

Earlier today, it was reported that of the 19 EZ countries, 15 were ready to say “Adieu” to Greece. I personally don’t doubt that for one minute. Even though the Czech Republic isn’t part of the EZ, the general attitude among Czechs is “fuck ‘em.”

A German official admitted earlier today that admitting Greece into the Eurozone was “a mistake”. I think the Germans at least, along with the Baltic States, Slovakia certainly, and quite a few others are simply at the end of their patience with Greece. It’s a money pit, basically.

Why did the EU want Greece in the EZ to begin with? To make it easier for Europeans to travel there?

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 6:08:13am

The Germans are due for an occupation. They seem to run on a periodic cycle. The last was occupying themselves in 1988.

165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:11:41am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The sad thing about this lame-assed attempt at a smear is that it misses the whole point of the discussion. The private display of the Confederate flag has never been questioned, just the appropriateness of flying one on government property.

Hurr hurr Y is Confed flag being banned but Koran is still allowed?!??!!?

One of my wingnut friends on FB (one I haven’t seen in 30 years, never imagined he turn wingnut) said something similar to this.

166 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:13:57am

re: #163 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why did the EU want Greece in the EZ to begin with? To make it easier for Europeans to travel there?

Ahh, it was all that euphoria that came about at the end of the Cold War - the reunification of Germany, the fall of the Eastern Bloc and the Iron Curtain.

Everyone sorta got caught up in the moment.

167 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:14:12am
168 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:16:38am

Just came across this Tweet:

They’re out of money. Ten to one the Greek banks are insolvent.

169 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:18:19am
But 5 seconds of Google image search showed that the flag was never in any of the previous images, particularly this one tagged by GettyImages at Huffington Post in 2012:

Waiting for GOP legislator Lee notBright to wave this photoshopped pic around, offer an amendment, to keep the rebel flag up, etc.

170 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:18:37am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

Someone just responded to that Tweet with this acid reply:

171 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 6:21:53am

re: #160 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Sad news, ‘80’s actress Amanda Peterson has passed away. There were very vague rumors not long ago that she wasn’t well, but no real details so far.

She starred in the movie Can’t Buy Me Love with Patrick Peterson (who played quite the dork in the movie before moving on to better things as Dr. McDreamy in that doctor show).

Earlier I read that she had been suffering from sleep apnea and pneumonia. If either or both are the cause, it must have been pretty extreme to cause her death. Too bad. She was young

172 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 6:22:48am

re: #154 Eventual Carrion

They’re stalling for time while they build a large, hollow, wooden horse.

173 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 6:27:27am

Where are the Cosby-defending conservatives, dudebros, and MRMs?

174 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:28:23am
175 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 6:29:55am

re: #107 Amory Blaine

I’m thinking that rather than live by the words “If it’s good for business it’s good for everybody,” It should be “If it’s good for everybody it’s good for business.”

A subtle but important difference.

176 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 6:31:35am

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

Oh look. A moonbat. We haven’t seen one of those around here for a long time.

177 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:33:38am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

Where are the Cosby-defending conservatives, dudebros, and MRMs?

Hopefully they’re out trying to prove you can take quaaludes and still operate heavy machinery.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 6:33:52am

re: #167 darthstar

Scott Walker:
In America we celebrate July 4th not April 15 because in America we celebrate our independence from the gov’t, not our dependence on it.

So who pays your salary, Scott?

179 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 6:34:20am

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Earlier I read that she had been suffering from sleep apnea and pneumonia. If either or both are the cause, it must have been pretty extreme to cause her death. Too bad. She was young

As my beagle was pushing me out of bed this morning, it was mentioned on the radio that she had recently changed residences due to a significant mold problem

180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 6:34:20am

We finally had a day without rain. While the skies are not crystal clear still, I did manage to get a halfway decent shot of Jupiter and Venus this evening.

Regulus, Venus and Jupiter

Nikon D3300, Tamron 70-300 zoom at 300mm, ISO 800, 1 sec exposure at f4.5

I had to focus manually, so I’m not sure if the slight fuzziness is from the haze or my poor eyesight while focusing.

181 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:34:35am

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

um, Bernie has a hell of a lot more sense and class then you do

oh boy

182 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 6:35:53am

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

um, Bernie has a hell of a lot more sense and class then you do

I was also under the impression that he had, you know, a sense of humor.

183 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:36:39am

I like Bernie Sanders, myself. I think he’d be a good choice for president. I just don’t give a crap for all the pre-game emo bullshit fans of Candidate X want to get wrapped up in…it’s too early.

184 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 6:37:13am

re: #74 RealityBasedSteve

Did somebody say Angels Flight?

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I grew up in the disco era (and not only loved dancing but was out there doing it every weekend night - in Chicago) and the only time I ever saw pants like that was in Saturday Night Fever.

185 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 6:39:35am

re: #77 teleskiguy

186 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:40:09am
How many times have we seen this picture lately? Did anyone notice this? I was too distracted by those sexy pants…

I kinda dig this pic of her, actually. Those geeky glasses.

187 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:40:22am

This is becoming farcical:

I think the Greek government may well want out of the Eurozone - the problem being they’ve sold themselves to the Greek electorate that they won’t take Greece out of the EZ, because the Greek people want to stay in the EZ.

They may well be hoping that the rest of the EZ just kicks them out, thus giving them want they want, while saving face to the Greeks.

188 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:40:47am

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Earlier I read that she had been suffering from sleep apnea and pneumonia. If either or both are the cause, it must have been pretty extreme to cause her death. Too bad. She was young

I was pretty sweet on her back in the day. Wondered what had happened to her.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 6:41:37am
190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:42:49am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

This is becoming farcical:

I think the Greek government may well want out of the Eurozone - the problem being they’ve sold themselves to the Greek electorate that they won’t take Greece out of the EZ, because the Greek people want to stay in the EZ.

They may well be hoping that the rest of the EZ just kicks them out, thus giving them want they want, while saving face to the Greeks.

Anybody know what Greece’s economy is based on?

191 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 6:44:03am

re: #120 Kragar

The Germans had some great tanks, but they lacked the resources to build and run them late in the war.

The early marks of Panzers were more armored fighting vehicles, lacking anti-armor cannons, relying on heavy machine guns and light automatic cannons

They had three major advantages over the Allied tanks at that time; ergonomics, tactics and communications.

German tanks were much better designed. Even the two man turrets of the Panzer IIs were better than the other side’s. The three man turrets of the IIIs and IVs meant that every one; loader, gunner and commander had only one thing to do. As opposed to most Allied tanks where one man turrets were common.

In tactics the Panzers practiced combined arms. People look at the tanks and think that’s what made the Panzers so powerful. In fact it was that infantry, artillery, engineers and aircraft were co-ordinated into a single flexible unit. They could concentrate the right weapons at the right point to get the job done.

And finally, radios. They were ubiquitous in the Panzers and that made it easy to reconnoitre, plan and react. Their opponents took hours to react to changing conditions, sometimes days at the higher levels. The Panzers could do it at once.

Can you tell I’ve spent way too much time studying WWII? ;)

192 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:44:19am

re: #181 darthstar

oh boy

Moar overnight fun I seem to have missed.

193 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 6:44:20am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So who pays your salary, Scott?

And health insurance.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 6:44:23am

re: #190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anybody know what Greece’s economy is based on?

There is some shipbuilding, but otherwise all I am aware of is agriculture and tourism.

195 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 6:44:50am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have a similar issue - wearing glasses makes focusing a pain, especially with the night shots.

196 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:45:08am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is some shipbuilding, but otherwise all I am aware of is agriculture and tourism.

Ah, yes hadn’t considered ship building.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 6:46:22am

re: #190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anybody know what Greece’s economy is based on?

Looks like tourism, shipping, and then agriculture going by the Wikipedia page.

198 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:47:39am

re: #190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anybody know what Greece’s economy is based on?

Tourism, shipping, agriculture mostly.

199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 6:48:02am

re: #195 lawhawk

I have a similar issue - wearing glasses makes focusing a pain, especially with the night shots.

It wouldn’t be a problem, but the zoom lens I have does not focus to infinity at 300mm at the extreme rotation of the focus ring. Infinity is just a few degrees before full stop. I need to try my 200 mm Nikkor prime focus, assuming I still have it here in China.

Also, I’m near sighted and wear contact lenses most of the time. If I’d worn my glasses, I could probably find a sharp focus easier.

200 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 6:50:11am

Greece is the epitome of everything the right-wingers love—expecting government services to just materialize while you absolutely refuse to pay taxes. Believe me, if it were a Northern European country, the GOP would be squealing like stuck pigs over how they were being “bullied”.

201 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:50:11am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Scott Walker:
In America we celebrate July 4th not April 15 because in America we celebrate our independence from the gov’t, not our dependence on it.

So in 2017 we tear down the Pentagon and all go back to running our small subsistence farms.

202 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 6:50:23am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

Heh. There’s a similar joke here in the Czech Republic regarding Vladimir Putin - the punchline being:

CI: Occupation?
VP: No, just tourism.

Meanwhile in regard to Greece, if this is indeed the case, then the Greek government is a bunch of colossal fuckups:

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I simply, for the life of me, cannot understand what their game is.

*smh*

Their game is that they don’t want a group of unelected technocrats determining their economic policies, especially when those policies are hurting the most vulnerable members of society.

Austerity is the economic form of bleeding. The EU and IMF technocrats, like medieval doctors, are determined to bleed Greece until it is healthy again. If Greece dies, it will be God’s fault.

203 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:50:30am

Yes. I mean, how sad.

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 6:50:56am
205 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 6:54:13am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

A German official admitted earlier today that admitting Greece into the Eurozone was “a mistake”. I think the Germans at least, along with the Baltic States, Slovakia certainly, and quite a few others are simply at the end of their patience with Greece. It’s a money pit, basically.

I never got why Greece got in in the first place. Their financial situation sucked from day one. That Greece couldn’t manipulate their own currency and all that other good stuff that is often necessary to manage a country’s economy is simply baffling from all angles.

206 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 6:56:17am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Then it’s over. Looks like time’s up. As of this moment, I’d rate the odds of Greece crashing out of the Eurozone at pretty much 100% within the next 72 hours or so.

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 6:57:12am

re: #205 WhatEVs

I never got why Greece got in in the first place. Their financial situation sucked from day one. That Greece couldn’t manipulate their own currency and all that other good stuff that is often necessary to manage a country’s economy is simply baffling from all angles.

They could not have done this without the aid of Goldmann-Sachs and their magic bag of free-market financial products. Thank God for deregulated financial markets that allowed banks more flexibility in, well, doing whatever it is that banks do (and getting away with it)

208 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:57:13am
Of the other far-left parties in Europe — which are far stronger in southern Europe than in the north…Populist parties on the right have become critical players in Danish and Finnish politics this year after elections in which they swept up a larger share of the vote than ever before.

The northern-southern ideological divide in Europe is kind of interesting.

209 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 6:58:21am

I read this story yesterday. His brother said, “There was no rushing him to the hospital. There was no Devon left when I got there”

210 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 6:59:19am

re: #190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anybody know what Greece’s economy is based on?

Tourism for the most part. I don’t think they make anything (other than olive oil and cheese).

211 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 6:59:35am

re: #209 darthstar

I read this story yesterday. His brother said, “There was no rushing him to the hospital. There was no Devon left when I got there”

Seems like a novel way to go out.

/

212 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 6:59:52am

re: #193 Eventual Carrion

And health insurance.

And car (with driver), housing, et al.

213 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:00:04am

re: #205 WhatEVs

I never got why Greece got in in the first place. Their financial situation sucked from day one. That Greece couldn’t manipulate their own currency and all that other good stuff that is often necessary to manage a country’s economy is simply baffling from all angles.

Like I said, it was that “We’re all gonna be one big happy family!” that gripped Europe in the period after the Cold War came to an end.

Greece has had underlying systemic economic problems for a very long time; for as long as I’ve been alive, at least (45 years). Hell, even a Nineteenth Century travelogue I read years ago described Greece as very poor, with dodging the taxman as something of a sport. That was over 100 years ago, written about three decades or so after Greece’s independence from the Ottoman Empire.

214 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:00:13am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Then it’s over. Looks like time’s up. As of this moment, I’d rate the odds of Greece crashing out of the Eurozone at pretty much 100% within the next 72 hours or so.

Except they can’t, really. They’re trying, but the Eurozone was designed to be permanent. And Greece was a fucking economic wreck before they entered the Euro.

215 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:01:19am

re: #211 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Seems like a novel way to go out.

/

Great…his last words to me were “Hold my beer.” Now I feel guilty for wanting to put the damn thing down.

216 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:01:41am

re: #200 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Greece is the epitome of everything the right-wingers love—expecting government services to just materialize while you absolutely refuse to pay taxes. Believe me, if it were a Northern European country, the GOP would be squealing like stuck pigs over how they were being “bullied”.

I’d upding this 1000x if I could. Between their love of Somalia (Services? Who needs services!) and taxes vis a vis Greece, this is what they envision for US? Ugh.

217 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 7:02:02am

re: #211 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Seems like a novel way to go out.

/

Blaze of Glory, with sparkles.

218 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:03:21am

re: #202 Romantic Heretic

Their game is that they don’t want a group of unelected technocrats determining their economic policies, especially when those policies are hurting the most vulnerable members of society.

Austerity is the economic form of bleeding. The EU and IMF technocrats, like medieval doctors, are determined to bleed Greece until it is healthy again. If Greece dies, it will be God’s fault.

My understanding is that Greece followed all the bleeding austerity that the EU and IMF wanted - and their economy collapsed since people couldn’t buy shit. Imagine, not having money to spend kills an economy. Whodathunkit?

219 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:04:02am

re: #94 zerosumgame0005

um, Bernie has a hell of a lot more sense and class then you do

I like Bernie. I think he has some great ideas and seems like a guy I would like to know personally. However, he will not be the next POTUS. I’m afraid Bernie supporters are setting themselves to be the victims of 2016 like Hillary supporters were “victims” in 2008. Just because your horse comes in second, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get behind the winner. If for some reason that Bernie comes out on top, I’ll gladly support his candidacy and give substantially just like I did for Obama.

220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 7:04:09am

re: #200 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Greece is the epitome of everything the right-wingers love—expecting government services to just materialize while you absolutely refuse to pay taxes.

Except they are too socialist about allowing people to keep thei money they do not pay in taxes, it should be sucked up by a few oligarchs. Then it would be Free Market Heaven.

221 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:04:26am

re: #193 Eventual Carrion

And health insurance.

From County Exec to Governor, now running for WH job. Long string of “independence” from dependence on government.

/

222 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:04:44am

re: #214 darthstar

Except they can’t, really. They’re trying, but the Eurozone was designed to be permanent. And Greece was a fucking economic wreck before they entered the Euro.

True - in theory, the EZ is designed to be permanent. However, I’m pretty sure either the markets or the EZ member-states will find a way to boot them out.

There is a North/South divide in the EU and the EZ, no doubt about that. The Northern countries are definitely hardasses about things. I’ve read some of the comments from the reps of the Baltic States - which underwent some very severe austerity not all that long ago - and they can’t understand WTF is it with the Greeks that they can’t just suck it up? After all, they reason, if they had extremely high unemployment and a majority of the population living on cat food, well…..why isn’t that good enough for the Greeks, then?

Needless to say, folks down South (in the EU) don’t see things that way.

223 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:05:15am
224 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:06:15am

My FB feed just blew up with Subway Jared. *close*

225 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 7, 2015 7:07:24am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

I like Bernie. I think he has some great ideas and seems like a guy I would like to know personally. However, he will not be the next POTUS. I’m afraid Bernie supporters are setting themselves to be the victims of 2016 like Hillary supporters were “victims” in 2008. Just because your horse comes in second, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get behind the winner. If for some reason that Bernie comes out on top, I’ll gladly support his candidacy and give substantially just like I did for Obama.

I wonder when the first debate will be. It’s nice that he draws crowds and all, but I’m waiting to hear him in a debate. I would love anybody but Hilary, but not if that anybody is the next Michael Dukakis or Walter Mondale.

226 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:07:31am

re: #214 darthstar

Except they can’t, really. They’re trying, but the Eurozone was designed to be permanent. And Greece was a fucking economic wreck before they entered the Euro.

The thing about Greece having its own currency is that it would force people to spend money in Greece - because, really, who, outside of Greece, is going to accept a new Greek currency that will likely rise in numbers equal to the Lira?

227 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:07:43am

Meanwhile the EU’s Lord High Executioner has arrived:

As one meeting ends, another is beginning….

Mario Draghi, the ECB president, just arrived at tonight’s summit of Eurozone leaders, but slipped inside without speaking to the press.

theguardian.com

228 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:07:50am

I always thought Jared was a bit of a freak for eating Subway that much…I can handle a sandwich from there every now and then, but they’re not ‘good’ or even ‘tasty’…they’re just placeholders to keep me from having a growling stomach for eight hours when I’m on a long drive.

229 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:08:50am

re: #215 darthstar

Great…his last words to me were “Hold my beer.” Now I feel guilty for wanting to put the damn thing down.

Hubby and I always joke about last words…

“Hold my beer” pretty much tops the list.

Also, “If I wind up dead, look at him/her/it” (too much Investigation Discovery).

Once those words are stated, it’s almost always downhill.

230 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:08:51am

re: #228 darthstar

I always thought Jared was a bit of a freak for eating Subway that much…I can handle a sandwich from there every now and then, but they’re not ‘good’ or even ‘tasty’…they’re just placeholders to keep me from having a growling stomach for eight hours when I’m on a long drive.

Yeah, exactly. We have a couple of Subway shops here in Ostrava, and how they stay in business, I have no idea. Maybe they’re money-laundering fronts, LOL.

231 Doofus  Jul 7, 2015 7:09:33am

I started stockpiling bubble wrap. I figure it is a good investment.

232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 7, 2015 7:09:39am

re: #228 darthstar

It’s probably just a minor thing but I don’t like the places that bake their own bread. When it’s busy the bread doesn’t get cooked right.

233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:10:20am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, exactly. We have a couple of Subway shops here in Ostrava, and how they stay in business, I have no idea. Maybe they’re money-laundering fronts, LOL.

Subway is one of two sandwich shops across the street for me. So it’s convenient. Everything else is a bit of a walk. But I bring my lunch most days.

234 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 7, 2015 7:10:27am

re: #229 WhatEVs

As long as my last word isn’t “Oops”

235 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:11:23am

re: #226 WhatEVs

The thing about Greece having its own currency is that it would force people to spend money in Greece - because, really, who, outside of Greece, is going to accept a new Greek currency that will likely rise in numbers equal to the Lira?

I was in Greece just before the Euro started. Drachmas were as bad as Lira back then. Also, as far as places I’d like to see again, it ranks pretty low - yeah, ancient ruins and shit, but even the Marriott sucked and the city (Athens) itself was filthy once you stepped outside the museums.

236 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:12:04am

re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It’s probably just a minor thing but I don’t like the places that bake their own bread. When it’s busy the bread doesn’t get cooked right.

I actually really like their bread—the meat and other ingredients is another matter. Haven’t had any problems with undercooked bread from them. The other sandwich shop near me is the opposite-much better meat, cheaper bread that crumbles easily.

237 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:12:13am

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Subway is one of two sandwich shops across the street for me. So it’s convenient. Everything else is a bit of a walk. But I bring my lunch most days.

Here we quite a few other choices, mostly Czech cuisine, but also kebab stands, hot dogs, pub food (which is quite good, btw) and assorted pizza and Chinese restaurants. Almost all of them are less expensive than Subway as well.

238 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 7:12:30am

re: #231 Doofus

I started stockpiling bubble wrap. I figure it is a good investment.

Obama Wrap
239 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:12:49am

re: #228 darthstar

I always thought Jared was a bit of a freak for eating Subway that much…I can handle a sandwich from there every now and then, but they’re not ‘good’ or even ‘tasty’…they’re just placeholders to keep me from having a growling stomach for eight hours when I’m on a long drive.

You know, for people who don’t know shit about nutrition and dieting, having a half a sandwich with veggies all the time - and cutting out all the other bullshit - will make people lose weight. It’s simple calories in and out. Even if he did nothing physically, taking in three Subway sandwiches a day (assuming you do a lot of veggies and not a lot of sauces) will guarantee weight loss.

240 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:13:19am

re: #235 darthstar

I was in Greece just before the Euro started. Drachmas were as bad as Lira back then. Also, as far as places I’d like to see again, it ranks pretty low - yeah, ancient ruins and shit, but even the Marriott sucked and the city (Athens) itself was filthy once you stepped outside the museums.

Two places my ex hated: Rome and Athens. For the reasons you cited.

241 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:13:27am

re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It’s probably just a minor thing but I don’t like the places that bake their own bread. When it’s busy the bread doesn’t get cooked right.

There’s a big difference between “baking their own bread” and sticking frozen dildos into a high speed oven.

242 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:14:30am

re: #241 darthstar

There’s a big difference between “baking their own bread” and sticking frozen dildos into a high speed oven.

Well that’s probably enough of Subway for me then…..

243 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:15:02am

According to a Best Week Ever exclusive from back in 2007, while at Indiana University, Jared ran a black market pornography rental service straight out of his dorm room. From Best Week Ever:

His porn collection was vast and extensive, and Fogle took his business pretty seriously. A video would run a patron a dollar a day (cheap!), and people would come from all over to take advantage of the deal. Needless to say, Jared had enough porn to keep his customers happy.

244 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:15:38am

re: #235 darthstar

I was in Greece just before the Euro started. Drachmas were as bad as Lira back then. Also, as far as places I’d like to see again, it ranks pretty low - yeah, ancient ruins and shit, but even the Marriott sucked and the city (Athens) itself was filthy once you stepped outside the museums.

Paris is filthy, too. And they have people who are supposed to power wash everything. The bridges (with the heads), Montmartre, all these glorious places…filthy.

245 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:16:12am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

Mmmm…kebobs. Now I am hungry.

246 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 7:16:26am

Mah surprise, etc. —

247 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:16:28am

re: #241 darthstar

There’s a big difference between “baking their own bread” and sticking frozen dildos into a high speed oven.

Sounds like a good name for a heavy metal album.

248 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:18:10am

re: #243 Dr. Matt

Porn is one thing (one might think that entrepreneurial as a college student), child porn is a whole other animal. I hope it’s the former and not the latter.

249 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:19:29am

re: #245 WhatEVs

Mmmm…kebobs. Now I am hungry.

A new kebab joint just opened right down the street from me: “King Kebab”. It’s not bad - but oddly, it’s quite pricey. There’s another kebab shack less than a mile away that’s about 40% cheaper and the quality is better, I’d say.

250 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 7:20:58am

re: #243 Dr. Matt

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How many VCR tapes can you fit into a dorm room?

251 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 7:21:35am

re: #52 jaunte

I knew it. My FB this morning pretty much consists of “how about he pay for it himself instead of relying on the govt? What a concept, right?”… smh

252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:22:54am

re: #251 GlutenFreeJesus

I knew it. My FB this morning pretty much consists of “how about he pay for it himself instead of relying on the govt? What a concept, right?”… smh

Not racist though, unless you suggest it’s racist, then you’re the racist.

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253 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 7:22:59am

FYI — if you’re retired, you’re going to Hell:

254 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 7:23:11am

re: #235 darthstar

I was in Greece just before the Euro started. Drachmas were as bad as Lira back then. Also, as far as places I’d like to see again, it ranks pretty low - yeah, ancient ruins and shit, but even the Marriott sucked and the city (Athens) itself was filthy once you stepped outside the museums.

The coast and the islands are still nice to visit, though

255 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:23:53am

re: #253 Lidane

FYI — if you’re retired, you’re going to Hell:

This sounds like a winning strategery. All those retired snow birds who vote GOP will surely like this.

/

256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 7:25:16am

re: #253 Lidane

David Barton explains that God opposes retirement b/c it’s “a pagan concept that comes from the Babylonian system”:

He also points out that it “is not a Biblical concept”.

Neither are Golden Parachutes or Corporate Equity Trading…

257 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 7:25:24am

re: #223 darthstar

And far longer than Sarah Palin has ever held a single job.

258 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 7:25:38am

I don’t know if we can declare victory here, but the Fake Hillary-Confederate Photoshop hasn’t been RT’ed on Twitter for 8 hours.

259 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:26:02am

re: #253 Lidane

FYI — if you’re retired, you’re going to Hell:

Appearing on Kenneth Copeland’s “Believer’s Voice of Victory” television program today, David Barton declared that God opposes retirement because it is “a pagan concept.”

Ah, yes, Kenneth Copeland. Another wingnut money-grabbing “evangelist”. Keep working so you can keep sending “our ministry” money.

260 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 7:26:36am

re: #255 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This sounds like a winning strategery. All those retired snow birds who vote GOP will surely like this.

/

Many of them, however, are stockholders in companies that would be a lot more profitable if they were not saddled with pension obligation. And they got theirs, so screw those young whippersnappers…

261 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:27:41am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He also points out that it “is not a Biblical concept”.

Neither are Golden Parachutes or Corporate Equity Trading…

I wonder when David Barton will talk about the Year of Jubilee, the dispensing of debts, etc.

/

262 Archangelus  Jul 7, 2015 7:28:06am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The coast and the islands are still nice to visit, though

The islands can be amazing to visit. Been to most of them over the years while barely bothering with the mainland, and contemplated choosing between either Santorini, Mykonos or or Kos this year before the economic crisis hit the fan…

263 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:28:25am

re: #248 WhatEVs

Porn is one thing (one might think that entrepreneurial as a college student), child porn is a whole other animal. I hope it’s the former and not the latter.

Unfortunately people will likely use his porn selling past as the reason why he moved to kiddie porn…i.e., gateway causation.

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 7:28:47am

Hmm. Need to do planning for next trip. Week and a half in northern VA/DC area. Will have car, thinking about bringing the bicycle, and will probably stay outside of DC and day trip in via the Metro if I want to do the classic tourist stuff.*

Only “must see” items so far are the Smithsonian extension out at Dulles so that I can take more airplane pictures and a couple of Civil War battlefield parks (Manassas and Fredericksburg-Spotsylvania).

* - I lived in Alexandria and worked on The Mall for 2 years. Which included playing tour guide for friends twice. But that was in 1988, so I’d probably choose a different mix of museums and other places to visit. Plus I have a better camera now.

265 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 7:31:40am

re: #154 Eventual Carrion

They’re stalling for time while they build a large, hollow, wooden horse.

You mean badger…

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 7:31:46am

Lee Bright is continuing his hissy fit today:

267 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 7:32:13am

re: #253 Lidane

FYI — if you’re retired, you’re going to Hell:

Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch

David Barton explains that God opposes retirement b/c it’s “a pagan concept that comes from the Babylonian system”: bit.ly

3:24 PM - 6 Jul 2015

Pagan concept from Babylon.

Lazy Godless Middle Easterners.

Figures. It’s Barton.

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268 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:32:41am

The internet is closed for the day:

269 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 7:35:32am

re: #262 Archangelus

The islands can be amazing to visit. Been to most of them over the years while barely bothering with the mainland, and contemplated choosing between either Santorini, Mykonos or or Kos this year before the economic crisis hit the fan…

My brother visited Athens, Santorini, Crete, and a few other islands earlier this year. Fabulous photos*. Plus some good stories about hotels losing reservations. Which ended up with him staying at Hotel Bob.**

* - Including pictures of baggies of rock samples. He mixed in some field work with his tourism.

** - Running family joke with encountering “XXX Bob” places in countries where English is not the primary language. This includes “Satay Bob” in Malaysia, “Taverna Bob” and “Hotel Bob” in Greece. I expect to find a “Cantina Bob” or equivalent if I ever visit Brazil on business.

270 blueraven  Jul 7, 2015 7:35:35am

Oil prices continues to slide. After yesterday’s drop of almost 8%, now at about $51 pb, down another 3%.

271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 7:36:08am

re: #267 ObserverArt

Pagan concept from Babylon.

Lazy Godless Middle Easterners.

Figures. It’s Barton.

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Does Barton want to throw out all the dualistic horseshit that the Hebrews picked up from Persia, too? All the Bible-thumpers talk about Satan as if he were a coequal, evil god, like Ahriman.

272 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:36:49am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen. @LeeBright: “This idea of federalism, this idea of states having rights, pretty much ended with this rulingthe Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Why can’t states have the right to discriminate and deny its citizens the right to life, liberty and happiness?”

And individual rights, civil rights and liberties, I guess notBright doesn’t care much for those.

273 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 7:36:56am

Wasn’t Iowa a Union state in the Civil War? WTF.

274 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 7:37:02am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He also points out that it “is not a Biblical concept”.

Neither are Golden Parachutes or Corporate Equity Trading…

Further proof that the “man of one book” is an idiot.

275 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 7:37:42am

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Does Barton want to throw out all the dualistic horseshit that the Hebrews picked up from Persia, too? All the Bible-thumpers talk about Satan as if he were a coequal, evil god, like Ahriman.

He expects us to read and interpret the Bible selectively to promote a Free Market agenda.

Gotta go stuff this here camel through the eye of a needle…

276 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:39:33am

It’s not just Jared - his foundation’s former director was producing the shit.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 7:39:36am

re: #273 Lidane

Wasn’t Iowa a Union state in the Civil War? WTF.

I blame Eisenhower and the Interstate system for allowing the idiots to spread further and faster than nature normally allows.

278 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:40:28am

re: #273 Lidane

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Wasn’t Iowa a Union state in the Civil War? WTF.

…

“That’s really disloyal to all those veterans from Iowa that fought to save the union and fought against that flag, so I just think that is most inappropriate,” Branstad said, according to The Gazette. “It’s disrespectful to all those Iowans from Marion County that went down to fight to save the union, so I’m totally baffled that that would happen in this state.”

I’d say so.

But this is the GOP. Their people pretty much demand it.

“We got a lot of cheers, thumbs up. Some people stood up and clapped,” Golay added. “We got a lot of support for that.”

But Democrats are the real racists!

279 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:43:19am

re: #278 WhatEVs

“That’s really disloyal to all those veterans from Iowa that fought to save the union and fought against that flag, so I just think that is most inappropriate,” Branstad said

Nice GOP governorship you got there, Branstad, shame if something happened to it…

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280 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:43:35am

re: #276 darthstar

It’s not just Jared - his foundation’s former director was producing the shit.

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Woah, shit! That’s serious. Like a kiddie-porn ring.

281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 7, 2015 7:43:48am

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Does Barton want to throw out all the dualistic horseshit that the Hebrews picked up from Persia, too? All the Bible-thumpers talk about Satan as if he were a coequal, evil god, like Ahriman.

Fundamentalism, though its believers would certainly deny it, is bi-theistic, and some versions with an extensive belief in demons, could be classified as polytheistic. Fundies, as you say, give Satan a lot of power, while also insisting God has more power. But the only way to get God to be on your side is to implore him. Otherwise, Satan will make you do bad stuff. But Jesus will forgive you afterward.

It’s a big muddle, theologically speaking.

282 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 7:43:50am

re: #276 darthstar

It’s not just Jared - his foundation’s former director was producing the shit.

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Taylor was first arrested back in April, I suspect he has cut a deal and implicated Fogle

283 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 7:45:01am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Taylor was first arrested back in April, I suspect he has cut a deal and implicated Fogle

If he’s implicated anyone else, I guess we’ll find out pretty soon.

284 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:45:39am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Taylor was first arrested back in April, I suspect he has cut a deal and implicated Fogle

I was thinking the exact same thing.

285 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 7:46:01am

The Jared Foundation guy arrested earlier appears to have some real issues. How it ties into Fogle himself is not clear but this is messy.

Indianapolis Star - Police investigation underway at home of Subway pitchman Jared Fogle

In May, the former Jared Foundation executive director was arrested on federal child pornography charges.

Russell Taylor, 43, attempted suicide on May 6 at the Marion County Jail and was placed on life support.

Tim Horty, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office, said Tuesday that Taylor’s health is improving and he is in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service.

He faces seven counts of production of child pornography and one count of possession of child pornography.

State police detectives began investigating Taylor after getting a tip from an acquaintance, according to court documents.

A woman was exchanging texts of a sexual nature with Taylor when he asked if she wanted to see pictures of young girls, court documents said. The woman was concerned and called police.

Federal charges. Production of Child Porn. FBI, State Police and Postal Service all involved. And he tried to off himself.

286 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 7:48:23am

re: #273 Lidane

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Wasn’t Iowa a Union state in the Civil War? WTF.

IIRC, Iowa contributed more soldiers to the Union, per capita, than any other state.

287 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 7:48:41am

re: #285 ObserverArt

The Jared Foundation guy arrested earlier appears to have some real issues. How it ties into Fogle himself is not clear but this is messy.

Indianapolis Star - Police investigation underway at home of Subway pitchman Jared Fogle

Federal charges. Production of Child Porn. FBI, State Police and Postal Service all involved. And he tried to off himself.

That he was involved in production of child porn…too bad he didn’t off himself.

288 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 7:49:09am

And on the Donald Trump front:

He’s busy claiming that he’s all for made in the US and American workers rights, except when he’s busy trying to max out his bottom line. That’s when he goes with construction contractors who aren’t using union workers, and are hiring illegal aliens to do the work.

That’s TrumpPatriotism™ in a nutshell

289 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 7:50:26am

re: #286 Timothy Watson

IIRC, Iowa contributed more soldiers to the Union, per capita, than any other state.

FWIW, Florida contributed more soldiers to the Confederacy, per capita, than any other state.

290 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 7:51:02am

re: #273 Lidane

Hey. Whatever it takes to get them to resign is ok in my book. Good riddance.

291 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:51:29am
292 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 7:52:08am
293 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 7:52:13am

re: #287 WhatEVs

That he was involved in production of child porn…too bad he didn’t off himself.

Yeah, the production of it caught my eye too. Sounds like he is in deep. The fact that all those agencies are at Jared’s house is not good. They must already have a good idea what they are looking for.

294 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:52:14am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

If he’s implicated anyone else, I guess we’ll find out pretty soon.

Chris Christie, but that’s okay. It won’t hurt his campaign.
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295 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:53:19am

re: #293 ObserverArt

Yeah, the production of it caught my eye too. Sounds like he is in deep. The fact that all those agencies are at Jared’s house is not good. They must already have a good idea what they are looking for.

Five.

Five dollar.

Five dollar foot long.

296 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 7:53:52am

re: #295 darthstar

Five.

Five dollar.

Five dollar foot long.

Okay…that earworm was mean…I’m sorry.

297 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 7:54:32am

Jared will be getting a lot of attention behind bars.

298 iossarian  Jul 7, 2015 7:54:51am

re: #295 darthstar

Five.

Five dollar.

Five dollar foot long.

A slap for you!

299 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 7:55:09am

re: #269 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother visited Athens, Santorini, Crete, and a few other islands earlier this year. Fabulous photos*. Plus some good stories about hotels losing reservations. Which ended up with him staying at Hotel Bob.**….

Now that the excavations at Akrotiri are open to the public again, I’d love to visit Thera (Santorini). That’s the most important archaeological site in the world, if you ask me (outside of Çatalhöyük, maybe)—I don’t know why it doesn’t generate more interest.

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 7:55:34am
301 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 7:56:14am

re: #289 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

FWIW, Florida contributed more soldiers to the Confederacy, per capita, than any other state.

Florida had 140,424 people in 1860, Iowa had 674,904, which was more than New Jersey or Connecticut.

302 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 7:56:16am

re: #288 lawhawk

And on the Donald Trump front:

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He’s busy claiming that he’s all for made in the US and American workers rights, except when he’s busy trying to max out his bottom line. That’s when he goes with construction contractors who aren’t using union workers, and are hiring illegal aliens to do the work.

That’s TrumpPatriotismTM in a nutshell

The best job creator ever!!! Even if they are off the books.

When the dust settles on his presidential run I wonder how much he will have dinged his The Donald™ reputation. I get the feeling there won’t be much left. Great planning there big guy.

304 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 7:58:00am
Owen Golay said that he flew the flags to point out that Confederate veterans are still veterans.
“This was my whole point with this whole exercise: to represent a segment of American veterans that are being buried in history, three of which are buried in Marion County,” he told the Des Moines Register.

I wasn’t aware that July 4th “Independence Day” was Veterans Day

Obviously Gov. Branstad never intends to run nationally with the GOP

Gov. Branstad also condemned the Golays’ decision to fly the Confederate flags during the parade.
“That’s really disloyal to all those veterans from Iowa that fought to save the union and fought against that flag, so I just think that is most inappropriate,” Branstad said, according to The Gazette. “It’s disrespectful to all those Iowans from Marion County that went down to fight to save the union, so I’m totally baffled that that would happen in this state.”

305 iossarian  Jul 7, 2015 7:58:20am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Speaking of pedophiles:

Jill Duggar is leaving for a lengthy mission trip ahead of possible lawsuit against molester brother

“Jill, honey, God has called you to bear witness to the heathens of… of…”

*consults list of extradition treaties*

“…Papua New Guinea.”

306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 7:58:41am

re: #276 darthstar

Jared Fogle, the famed Subway spokesman who is best known for losing 235 pounds by eating Subway sandwiches and exercising, started the nonprofit Jared Foundation to raise awareness and money to support childhood obesity programs.

After Taylor’s arrest Fogle issued a statement that said he was “shocked” over the allegations and that the foundation was “severing all ties” with Taylor.

So it sounds like Fogle himself isn’t implicated, just the head, or former head, of his foundation.

307 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 8:00:10am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s just because the bill doesn’t do away with SSM or declare secession or do anything about all the people dying around the world.

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308 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 8:02:47am

re: #306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So it sounds like Fogle himself isn’t implicated, just the head, or former head, of his foundation.

With an evidence truck parked outside your home, and police carrying your computer and other electronics out to said truck, chances are high that you have been implicated in something

309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 8:03:51am

re: #287 WhatEVs

In May, former Jared Foundation executive director Russell Taylor was arrested on federal child pornography charges.

Taylor, 43, attempted suicide on May 6 at the Marion County Jail and was placed on life support.

I see, the arrest of Taylor was from May, the investigation at Fogle’s home is more recent.

310 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 8:04:44am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

Yeah sorry I was responding to the article about the arrest of Taylor, assumed that was current, but it was from May.

311 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 8:07:06am

Who is this Flynn?

All the wingnuts are cheering for him so I suppose he must be a real dumbass.

312 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 8:07:50am
313 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 8:08:39am

re: #310 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah sorry I was responding to the article about the arrest of Taylor, assumed that was current, but it was from May.

I bet Fogle was shocked. I bet he is even more shocked today with Feds crawling all over.

And yeah, the guy was arrested in May. He tried to off himself and since then he has probably had a lot of interviews with forensic psychologists which has probably had a lot to do with today.

314 bratwurst  Jul 7, 2015 8:11:21am
315 Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2015 8:14:39am
316 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 8:16:24am
317 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 8:17:01am

re: #306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not implicated. Yet.

318 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 8:17:17am

re: #291 darthstar

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Yeah, at this rate, they’re going to go through the whole clown parade, like they did in 2011-12, with everybody getting their 15 minutes as frontrunner, only they’re going to have to go through the whole list over and over again (unless they can recruit a bunch more idiots). By November of next year, everybody is going to be completely used to the idea that Hillary’s next. It’ll simply be a done deal in most people’s minds.

319 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 8:18:14am

The question is;
Will Cuba allow the plague ships to enter territorial waters?
Carnival gets US approval for cruises to Cuba
news.yahoo.com

320 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 7, 2015 8:18:25am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck you, Boston! We didn’t even have snow on the ground in the Sierra in fucking JANUARY!
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321 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:19:32am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Speaking of pedophiles:

Jill Duggar is leaving for a lengthy mission trip ahead of possible lawsuit against molester brother

Lengthy mission to an undisclosed country. Sounds like a beachfront cottage in Palau to me.

You just know that someone is going to find her and expose the ‘mission’ for what it is.

Duggars are all grifters and charlatans. The kids have been trained well.

322 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 8:21:15am

re: #313 ObserverArt

I bet Fogle was shocked. I bet he is even more shocked today with Feds crawling all over.

And yeah, the guy was arrested in May. He tried to off himself and since then he has probably had a lot of interviews with forensic psychologists which has probably had a lot to do with today.

Jared could be guilty, or this guy could just be trying to implicate him to take the heat off himself. Or both. This wouldn’t be the first fishing expedition like this the FBI’s engaged in. Problem is, once they start looking, they’re going to find something. One way or another.

323 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 7, 2015 8:21:31am

re: #288 lawhawk

And on the Donald Trump front:

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He’s busy claiming that he’s all for made in the US and American workers rights, except when he’s busy trying to max out his bottom line. That’s when he goes with construction contractors who aren’t using union workers, and are hiring illegal aliens to do the work.

That’s TrumpPatriotismTM in a nutshell

So I did a news search for ‘Trump hired illegals’, and with few exceptions, the results are all from wingnut blogs saying “The MSM got their marching orders to destroy Trump!”

324 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 8:21:53am

re: #321 darthstar

Lengthy mission to an undisclosed country. Sounds like a beachfront cottage in Palau to me.

You just know that someone is going to find her and expose the ‘mission’ for what it is.

Duggars are all grifters and charlatans. The kids have been trained well.

Well, if you’re not here you can’t testify.

325 Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2015 8:21:58am
326 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 8:23:01am

re: #323 Blind Frog Belly White

So I did a news search for ‘Trump hired illegals’, and with few exceptions, the results are all from wingnut blogs saying “The MSM got their marching orders to destroy Trump!”

De rigueur, no?

327 Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 7, 2015 8:23:03am

re: #325 Ace-o-aces

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“But apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

328 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 8:24:37am

Now even wingnuts are admitting the Hillary photo was ‘shopped.
Can we declare victory yet?
I suspect it will continue to be spammed by some Twitter accounts who are so deep in my block/mute folder they will never be seen by me.

329 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:27:24am

re: #324 WhatEVs

Well, if you’re not here you can’t testify.

There’s video testimony from the Megyn Kelly interview. Even her forgiving denials that it was all that bad are good enough for civil cases. The Duggar family’s cash cow is getting short on years. It’s good for her that she took her cut of the money and ran.

330 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 8:27:44am

re: #323 Blind Frog Belly White

So I did a news search for ‘Trump hired illegals’, and with few exceptions, the results are all from wingnut blogs saying “The MSM got their marching orders to destroy Trump!”

Since even Faux Noise has joined in the chorus to trash Trump, maybe the wingnuts will finally stop believing everything they see on there—because they’re “too liberal”.

331 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 8:33:44am

re: #330 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Since even Faux Noise has joined in the chorus to trash Trump, maybe the wingnuts will finally stop believing everything they see on there—because they’re “too liberal”.

No, they will whine that Fox is too liberal…as they have in the past.

332 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:37:48am
333 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:41:24am
334 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 8:45:09am

El Rushbo isn’t even trying anymore:

335 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:45:17am

This is what is happening on Twitter right now because Bernie Sanders said something mildly less than 100% pro-Obama. Damn, liberals can be insecure.

336 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 8:46:15am

re: #333 darthstar

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“Thought they were dogs”
That’s his story, and he’s sticking to it.

337 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 7, 2015 8:46:42am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

“Thought they were dogs”
That’s his story, and he’s sticking to it.

Yeah, I find that very hard to believe.

338 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:47:29am
339 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:48:01am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

“Thought they were dogs”
That’s his story, and he’s sticking to it.

Funny. Jared said the same thing.
/

340 EmmaAnne  Jul 7, 2015 8:48:55am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

Where are the Cosby-defending conservatives, dudebros, and MRMs?

Not here, thank God.

341 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 8:50:25am

re: #338 darthstar

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“Willie Orton”

Is that what they call him in East End London?

342 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:51:11am
343 FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2015 8:52:16am

re: #339 darthstar

Funny. Jared said the same thing.
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344 Great White Snark  Jul 7, 2015 8:53:36am

re: #333 darthstar

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Well hey to be fair to the poor guy if he went to that Chinese Zoo that had a Tibetan Mastiff all trimmed up and called it a lion…? I could understand his species confusion.

China, where no product is quite what you thought…

345 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 8:54:13am

re: #334 Lidane

El Rushbo isn’t even trying anymore:

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Isn’t that convieeeeeeeeeent?

…

346 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 8:55:17am
347 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:55:20am

re: #341 Eventual Carrion

“Willie Orton”

Is that what they call him in East End London?

True story: When I was an ex-pat in the UK, one of my co-workers’ wives was from the East End. Their kids went to private school, and one day when she was fed up with her daughter’s tantrum she said, “I’ve ‘ad about enough of you young lady” and her daughter said, “Mommy, I do believe you dropped an H there.” She was terrified that she was raising her kids to be snobs.

348 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:57:04am

I’d rather Obama bailed out Greece than Putin.

349 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 8:57:10am
350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 8:57:26am

re: #338 darthstar

You mean the guy SF let out of jail that DHS/ICE wanted to deport?

That guy?

Yup, definitely Obama’s Katrina.

/

351 Great White Snark  Jul 7, 2015 8:57:58am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh no…

352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 8:58:08am

re: #348 darthstar

I’d rather Obama bailed out Greece than Putin.

Appeasement!!!!11

353 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 8:59:41am
354 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 8:59:50am

re: #348 darthstar

I’d rather Obama bailed out Greece than Putin.

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Maybe that’s Tsipras’ ace in the hole.

355 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 8:59:53am

Even if there was a confederate flag on Hilary’s dorm room wall nearly fifty years ago it would be proof positive of absolutely nothing. Conservatives are in the business of making shit up and then getting excited about it. They will make up more shit and get excited about it as the campaign wears on. If the General Election doesn’t go their way they’ll make up really elaborate conspiracy shit about how it was stolen from them. It’s what they do instead of figuring out ways t govern effectively.

356 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:01:14am

re: #353 darthstar

Edwin?

357 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:01:29am
358 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 9:02:24am

re: #354 Dr Lizardo

Maybe that’s Tsipras’ ace in the hole.

I think his ace in the hole is, “Nice little currency ya’ got there. Be a shame if something happened to it.”

359 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 9:06:03am
360 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 9:06:19am
361 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 9:07:13am

re: #356 WhatEVs

Edwin?

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Edna maybe? Edison? Edgar…that’s it.

362 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:07:27am

re: #355 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Even if there was a confederate flag on Hilary’s dorm room wall nearly fifty years ago it would be proof positive of absolutely nothing. Conservatives are in the business of making shit up and then getting excited about it. They will make up more shit and get excited about it as the campaign wears on. If the General Election doesn’t go their way they’ll make up really elaborate conspiracy shit about how it was stolen from them. It’s what they do instead of figuring out ways t govern effectively.

You’d think that at some point, people would catch on to the bullshit.

I read a book the other day by one of my fav authors (Against All Enemies by John Gilstrap) and while the bad guys were of the insane militia types, all the characters hated the president who was corrupt, scandal-plagued, etc. I will admit that many of the supposed scandals were more of the Bush era, but you could tell that isn’t where the author was going.

Anyway, it made me think about the XXCommitte guy. This was a guy who was that the war college (I think that’s where he was…at one of the military learning institutes) and how reading him these days made me sad. This is a guy who should know better…and if this is what he thinks, what do others think (really believe, not just think). That made me even sadder.

The divide and conquer, party above country bullshit of the GOP really has damaged our nation. Throw in Fox news with continual lying bullshit and the other media dancing around truth and really…how long does a country exist like that? How long do we exist when you have half of the elected officials actively blocking a functional government due to ideology (be it GOP or religious ideology, same difference really)?

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 9:07:37am
364 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:07:49am

Wow what a freaking dumbass

365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 9:07:55am

re: #360 darthstar

If Holder had retired in shame or been forced out of office as the result of a conviction, then the RIght would know all about it.

366 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 9:08:36am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Awfully convenient to have that turbine land next to the trailer like that…now they don’t have to drag one in on their own…gonna hammer that sucker into a unique fire pit before Labor Day.

367 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 9:08:37am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

Wow what a freaking dumbass

Checkmate Libtards!!!1

368 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:08:51am
369 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 9:09:37am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If Holder had retired in shame or been forced out of office as the result of a conviction, then the RIght would know all about it.

They spent so much time delaying Lynch one could easily see how they could think she’s still in limbo.

370 Great White Snark  Jul 7, 2015 9:12:49am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good grief. Broke up an F-16 in the air like that? The remains of the Cessna are going to fit in a lunch bag.

371 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 9:16:48am

How do you know the picture of Hillary without the Confederate flag isn’t a fake???

You can use Photoshop to remove things too!

Obviously the Libtards have reasons for taking it out of the photo to protect her as she runs for president.

////

372 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 9:16:51am

re: #344 Great White Snark

Well hey to be fair to the poor guy if he went to that Chinese Zoo that had a Tibetan Mastiff all trimmed up and called it a lion…? I could understand his species confusion.

China, where no product is quite what you thought…

And your soup winks back at you.

373 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:18:23am

Did that “Conservative Tree House” blog remove the image from its page or is it still up there (I’m at work, don’t want to visit a site that might be firewalled)

374 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 9:19:10am

Another dipshit who doesn’t know how to Google:

375 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:19:17am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

Did that “Conservative Tree House” blog remove the image from its page or is it still up there (I’m at work, don’t want to visit a site that might be firewalled)

It’s still there.

376 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 9:21:19am

re: #218 WhatEVs

My understanding is that Greece followed all the bleeding austerity that the EU and IMF wanted - and their economy collapsed since people couldn’t buy shit. Imagine, not having money to spend kills an economy. Whodathunkit?

Down ding for not for offering a differing point of view but for being insulting about it.

377 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 9:24:38am

re: #374 Lidane

Ah, Dinesh D’Souza…..you should tweet this at him:

378 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 9:25:27am

That picture is decades old and suddenly someone just realized there is a confederate rag in the background?! For fuck’s sake, conservatives are idiots.

379 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:26:10am

re: #376 Romantic Heretic

Down ding for not for offering a differing point of view but for being insulting about it.

Being insulting about what? That not having money to spend kills an economy? How on earth is that insulting?

If I was insulting anyone, it was the IMF, because Greece followed what they wanted. And its people are starving now. And those same people have no money to inject into its economy.

If you’re upset that I insulted the banking community, sorry, people can only starve so many ways…and the banking community doesn’t give a shit about that.

380 Lidane  Jul 7, 2015 9:26:40am

re: #378 Dr. Matt

That picture is decades old and suddenly someone just realized there is a confederate rag in the background?! For fuck’s sake, conservatives are idiots.

Decades old and easily found on Google, but somehow nobody ever saw the Confederate flag in the background. Amazing.

381 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:27:21am

re: #380 Lidane

Decades old and easily found on Google, but somehow nobody ever saw the Confederate flag in the background. Amazing.

And now everyone takes it as a proven fact.

382 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 9:28:28am

re: #381 WhatEVs

And now everyone takes it as a proven fact.

I’m actually surprised someone on Fox “news” didn’t try to run with it.

383 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:28:57am

I am rapidly warming to Shark Week. I thought it was all Sharknado 1, 2, 3…25, but it’s actually very interesting. Lots of information on sharks, how they live, possible causation of attacks. Fascinating, really.

384 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:30:29am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Those bakers are not Jews, dipshits.
(BTW don’t reply to Sir_Max, it’s just an auto-retweet bot)

385 Romantic Heretic  Jul 7, 2015 9:31:38am

re: #234 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

As long as my last word isn’t “Oops”

My understanding is that, statistically, the last words that come out of a person’s mouth before they shuffle off this mortal coil in a spectacular manner is, “Oh shit!”

In a SF novel I read years ago ‘went, “Oh shit!”’ was slang for dying.

“What ever happened to Trevor? I haven’t seen him around in a while.”
“He went, ‘Oh shit!’ about a year ago.”

They had a ‘Wall of “Going Oh Shit!”’ to commemorate their dead.

386 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 7, 2015 9:32:30am

re: #352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Appeasement!!!!11

That means you also get dolma and a few olives when you get assigned your gay marriage husband in FEMA camp.

387 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 9:33:51am
388 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 9:36:26am

Southern conservatives will vote for Hillary now!

389 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:40:21am

Definitive Getty Images watermarked photo:

390 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 9:41:13am

re: #389 The Vicious Babushka

But I don’t see a BIBLE^#>**£€^>}}*£%!!!!!!!!

391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 7, 2015 9:41:14am

Chuck C. Johnson Has Thoughts On The Charleston Shootings. They Are Strange And Racist Thoughts.

392 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 9:41:49am

re: #389 The Vicious Babushka

Definitive Getty Images watermarked photo:

[Embedded content]

Of course it ain’t doctored, what she is displaying in that niche is the Confederate “Stainless Banner”…

393 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 9:43:27am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

Did that “Conservative Tree House” blog remove the image from its page or is it still up there (I’m at work, don’t want to visit a site that might be firewalled)

It’s still up. The comments are about as vile and lowbrow as expected. Someone said it was photoshopped and the replies were basically saying that “we agree, one of them is photoshopped”. Idiots.

394 wrenchwench  Jul 7, 2015 9:47:47am

Ain’t no ‘concealed carry’ for that thing.

395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 7, 2015 9:47:50am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

It’s still up. The comments are about as vile and lowbrow as expected. Someone said it was photoshopped and the replies were basically saying that “we agree, one of them is photoshopped”. Idiots.

Remember: don’t retreat, reload!!!

396 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:49:35am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

It’s still up. The comments are about as vile and lowbrow as expected. Someone said it was photoshopped and the replies were basically saying that “we agree, one of them is photoshopped”. Idiots.

Which makes more sense to be Photoshipped, the picture that everyone has been looking at for 6 years (including other snapshots taken on the same roll of film) or the picture that was discovered yesterday?

397 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:50:21am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Which makes more sense to be Photoshipped, the picture that everyone has been looking at for 6 years (including other snapshots taken on the same roll of film) or the picture that was discovered yesterday?

Uhm…lemme think on that. /

398 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2015 9:51:38am

Suddenly the confederate battle flag is a bad thing… When it’s shopped in the background of an old college-years photograph of a liberal woman. Let that sink in.

399 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 9:54:12am

The wreckage of the Cessna has been found.

The F-16 pilot has also been found. Out of Shaw AFB in Sumter.

400 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 9:54:24am

For grins I uploaded the HIllary photos to fotoforensics.com and the ELA analysis came up completely black for the photoshopped. Someone clearly covered up their photoshop tracks.

Here is the ELA analysis of the original and below it is the ELA analysis of the photoshopped:

401 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 9:54:25am

re: #398 GlutenFreeJesus

Suddenly the confederate battle flag is a bad thing… When it’s shopped in the background of an old college-years photograph of a liberal woman. Let that sink in.

For as many years that the Clinton’s have been in the public eye, they think this wouldn’t have been mentioned earlier? I don’t know, maybe when they were saying that the Clinton’s off’d their friend Vince Foster? Or maybe when they said that the Clinton’s swiped all the “W“‘s off the White House keyboards?

It never ceases to amaze me that all this new-found [fill in your daily scandal] was never noted before. And it’s not for lack of looking. Righties have been searching for something to hang on the Clinton’s for decades.

402 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:55:33am

Guy Fawkes mask avi in my timeline? I’m not retweeting your stupid Anon shit. Meet the Block button.

403 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 9:56:54am

re: #401 WhatEVs

For as many years that the Clinton’s have been in the public eye, they think this wouldn’t have been mentioned earlier? I don’t know, maybe when they were saying that the Clinton’s off’d their friend Vince Foster? Or maybe when they said that the Clinton’s swiped all the “W“‘s off the White House keyboards?

It never ceases to amaze me that all this new-found [fill in your daily scandal] was never noted before. And it’s not for lack of looking. Righties have been searching for something to hang on the Clinton’s for decades.

Whoever made the Photoshop was too dumb to know that Hillary went to Wellesley which is a Yankee college, not Ole Miss.

404 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 10:00:27am

re: #398 GlutenFreeJesus

Suddenly the confederate battle flag is a bad thing… When it’s shopped in the background of an old college-years photograph of a liberal woman. Let that sink in.

Because it proves, with geometric logic, that Democrats’ self-image is actually this:

405 Skip Intro  Jul 7, 2015 10:00:59am

re: #334 Lidane

El Rushbo isn’t even trying anymore:

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He hasn’t been trying for over twenty years. He could re-run his old shows from now until 2016 and I doubt anyone would even notice.

406 iossarian  Jul 7, 2015 10:01:17am

The mind-twisting bullshit you have to believe to make this a “thing” is insane. Here’s a handy step-by-step program for people wanting to go through the mental gymnastics of hating Hillary for something made up:

1) Nothing wrong with the flag
2) But it’s a Democrat flag
3) So Hillary would like it
4) That’s why, even if the image is photoshopped, it doesn’t matter
5) Because she would have liked the flag anyway
6) So she’s a bad person
7) But there’s nothing wrong with the flag
8) By the way, she’s ugly

407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 10:02:42am

re: #398 GlutenFreeJesus

Suddenly the confederate battle flag is a bad thing… When it’s shopped in the background of an old college-years photograph of a liberal woman. Let that sink in.

Its not a bad thing but Libtards are HYPOcrites for criticizing Confed flag which was fought for Honor Libtards real racists!!!1111

408 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 10:02:46am

re: #406 iossarian

The mind-twisting bullshit you have to believe to make this a “thing” is insane. Here’s a handy step-by-step program for people wanting to go through the mental gymnastics of hating Hillary for something made up:

1) Nothing wrong with the flag
2) But it’s a Democrat flag
3) So Hillary would like it
4) That’s why, even if the image is photoshopped, it doesn’t matter
5) Because she would have liked the flag anyway
6) So she’s a bad person
7) But there’s nothing wrong with the flag
8) By the way, she’s ugly

9) Republicans freed the slaves!
10) Black people only vote Democrat to get free welfares & food stamps!

409 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 10:03:28am

BTW who remembers this:

410 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 10:04:50am
411 Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2015 10:05:23am

re: #391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Chuck C. Johnson Has Thoughts On The Charleston Shootings. They Are Strange And Racist Thoughts.

[Embedded content]

They missed the stupidest/craziest passage in CCJ’s rant:

There’s a photo making the rounds of Roof supposedly wearing a pin from pre-1990 apartheid South Africa and of Rhodesia. This supposed revelation caused Rhodesia (modern day Zimbabwe) to trend on Twitter….

On a personal note: the nicest dog on my paper route when I was a boy was a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Your humble reader has some friends from Rhodesia who are Jews who opposed apartheid but nevertheless fled Zimbabwe.

That’s some high IQ journalamisim there!

412 WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2015 10:05:24am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

1) Nothing wrong with the flag
2) But it’s a Democrat flag
3) So Hillary would like it
4) That’s why, even if the image is photoshopped, it doesn’t matter
5) Because she would have liked the flag anyway
6) So she’s a bad person
7) But there’s nothing wrong with the flag
8) By the way, she’s ugly9) Republicans freed the slaves!
10) Black people only vote Democrat to get free welfares & food stamps!

11. She’s too OLD.
(She’s younger than Romney and McCain)
12. SO? She’s too OLD!
(Women, statistically, live longer than men)
13. SO FREAKIN’ WHAT?

413 Skip Intro  Jul 7, 2015 10:07:54am

re: #371 ObserverArt

How do you know the picture of Hillary without the Confederate flag isn’t a fake???

You can use Photoshop to remove things too!

Obviously the Libtards have reasons for taking it out of the photo to protect her as she runs for president.

////

This is why we can never discuss things that matter in this country. The right invents an issue, then Gish Gallops away with it.

414 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 10:09:44am

re: #411 Ace-o-aces

There’s a photo making the rounds of Roof supposedly wearing a pin from pre-1990 apartheid South Africa and of Rhodesia. This supposed revelation caused Rhodesia (modern day Zimbabwe) to trend on Twitter….

I wonder how UpChuck is supposedly making money this week?
/

415 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 10:10:16am
416 Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2015 10:10:27am
417 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 10:11:12am

There is something about the ‘shopped image with the Confederate I noticed right off when it was posted at first the other day. So I did a redo of it and added what I noticed. It is very very subtle, but then it would be.

Let’s have a contest to see if the sharp LGF members can spot what I added and what the original Photoshopper should have to help make it more convincing. You might need to click on the image to see the larger image so you can compare.

If you look at the original image it might help.

418 Skip Intro  Jul 7, 2015 10:12:20am

re: #414 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder how UpChuck is supposedly making money this week?
/

His allowance from his wife?

419 retired cynic  Jul 7, 2015 10:12:45am

re: #417 ObserverArt

Gradation on the shadow on the flag?

420 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 10:13:05am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eh. That wont go anywhere. The state at least has a Lt. Gov., and that’s better than the old situation where it wasn’t clear who was in charge when the governor was out of state.

And by having a lieutenant governor, it gives the GOP the option to run her as Christie will be term limited.

421 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 10:13:10am

re: #418 Skip Intro

His allowance from his wife?

She and her family are kicking in to pay him to stay away.

422 Kragar  Jul 7, 2015 10:13:31am

re: #417 ObserverArt

You resized the pixels, you clever bastard!

423 lawhawk  Jul 7, 2015 10:16:15am

Which Trump is kind enough to hire instead of American workers to do his construction projects, so he can make even more money than he otherwise would be able to (and depressing American salaries to boot - particularly because he’s not employing union trade workers).

424 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 10:17:02am

re: #417 ObserverArt

She’s in two places at once! That means she’s a witch! We have found a witch. May we burn her?

425 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2015 10:19:25am
426 Kragar  Jul 7, 2015 10:19:26am

re: #423 lawhawk

“I have always heard that it is very hard for a successful person to run.”

Its even harder for a complete fucking moron.

427 Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2015 10:19:38am

re: #417 ObserverArt

Looks like the shadow at the top portion of the flag differs between the two.

428 Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2015 10:20:33am

re: #424 Higgs Boson’s Mate

She’s in two places at once! That means she’s a witch! We have found a witch. May we burn her?

Build a bridge out of her.

429 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 10:20:41am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WW1: Won By Aircraft
WW2: Won By Nukes

430 iossarian  Jul 7, 2015 10:21:33am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

WAKE UP LIBERALS!

Actually, I am awake. AWAKE AND DESTROYING AMERICA!!!

431 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 10:21:52am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WW1: Won By Aircraft
WW2: Won By Nukes

#needs #moar #hashtags

432 Jenner7  Jul 7, 2015 10:21:52am
433 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 10:21:55am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

Ah, Dinesh D’Souza…..you should tweet this at him:

Embedded Image

Done.

434 Kragar  Jul 7, 2015 10:23:40am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WW1: Won By Aircraft
WW2: Won By Nukes

[Embedded content]

Korean War: Won by …

Vietnam War: Won by …

1st Gulf War: Won by …

435 Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2015 10:25:28am

re: #433 darthstar

Done.

Groovy.

436 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 7, 2015 10:28:12am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WW1: Won By Aircraft
WW2: Won By Nukes

[Embedded content]

437 ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2015 10:28:43am

re: #419 retired cynic

Gradation on the shadow on the flag?

re: #427 Dr. Matt

Looks like the shadow at the top portion of the flag differs between the two.

Yep. Can’t slide anything by Lizards. But then, it was all about the flag so there was only one place to look to see what I had done.

It’s little things like a proper shadow that makes things convincing. And since the flag is standing out from the back wall, the shadow wouldn’t be on the same line as the shadow on the back wall as it would be shorter due to the differences in the two planes.

438 The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2015 10:29:17am

LOL

439 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 10:29:23am

re: #391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Chuck C. Johnson Has Thoughts On The Charleston Shootings. They Are Strange And Racist Thoughts.

Embedded Image

Yay! New lawsuit! (That would be Dim Jim suing Chuck for stealing his title.)

440 Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2015 10:29:55am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
WW1: Won By Aircraft
WW2: Won By Nukes

[Embedded content]

Hey, a wingnut that understands the importance of artillery.

(Crack about the difference between a “gun” and a “weapon”.)

441 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 7, 2015 10:30:21am

How come so many Cons just love the “Stand,” and “Fight,” rhetoric yet so few of them actually serve?

442 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 7, 2015 10:33:49am

re: #441 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How come so many Cons just love the “Stand,” and “Fight,” rhetoric yet so few of them actually serve?

By “stand” and “fight” they mean “tweet stuff”.

/

443 plansbandc  Jul 7, 2015 10:33:50am

I don’t envy the Subway PR person/team. This is gonna take some work.

444 William Lewis  Jul 7, 2015 10:35:14am

re: #436 No Country For Old Haters

[Embedded content]

If she wants fighting, tweet her this link:

usarec.army.mil

445 No Country For Old Haters  Jul 7, 2015 10:38:28am

re: #444 William Lewis

If she wants fighting, tweet her this link:

usarec.army.mil

I wouldn’t want to encourage a crazy person to get themselves killed, even if they advocate violence. She needs time in detox and rehab away from wingnut media.

446 darthstar  Jul 7, 2015 10:38:40am

Because CALENDARS!


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