Watch Live: South Carolina House of Representatives Debates Removing Confederate Flag
Heritage? Or hate?
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NBC’s embedded video code isn’t working, so here’s a link to the video at their site.
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:11:58pm |
the greatest display of rationalization since donald trump explained away macy’s telling him to shove it up his ass
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lawhawk Jul 8, 2015 6:15:33pm |
You’d think that it’d be a no-brainer that the state flag of South Carolina flies over the state capitol of South Carolina. But that would be logic.
Rather, the legislative nitwits in charge of South Carolina not so long ago decided to fly the confederate flag over the state capitol building.
The flag of insurrectionists (in the state where the first shots of the insurrection were actually fired) whose intention was to protect the institution of slavery.
That’s what these current legislators are debating - and the GOP seeking to protect the right to fly over the state capitol building.
This should be a no-brainer, but apparently in 2015 the GOP thinks that flying the confederate flag is something that should be debated and defended, even though the history of the flag and its associated baggage represent much that is wrong with the nation (racism, slavery, segregation, etc.).
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:15:36pm |
Jerry Govan, now speaking, ran for School Superintendent. Lost in the primary, but a good guy.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:16:08pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:16:23pm |
Several African American reps taking podium now, urging votes to take flag down, no amendments. @wis10 #scpol #sctweets #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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Iwouldprefernotto Jul 8, 2015 6:17:15pm |
Does the word “Stonewalling” apply?*
*Keep in mind that Stonewall Jackson was a victim of friendly fire.
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:17:55pm |
NBC’s embedded video code isn’t working, so here’s a link to the video at their site.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:18:46pm |
Source says GOP reps are twisting arms hard on the floor trying to get the Quinn amendment through.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:19:04pm |
Heritage
oh for fuck’s sake yanno i dont have a special jewish guy from new york flag or bumper sticker to put on my car and get all upset about if i cant fly it from the california supreme court building
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:19:54pm |
Rep. Jerry Govan talks about a scar on his face. Says was called the “n-word,” & hit in face w/ bag of nails. @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:21:45pm |
imma make up a special “fuck you i got yer heritage right here” flag to celebrate the precious cultural heritage of alla us what grew up in da greatest city on oith, see?
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FormerDirtDart Jul 8, 2015 6:22:04pm |
The man behind the dozens of proposed amendments to the Confederate battle flag bill being debated in the South Carolina House on Wednesday
A closer look at Rep. Mike Pitts
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:24:24pm |
NBC has been screwing around with their embedded video code lately and it looks like they broke something.
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 6:24:26pm |
Any amendment sends bill to conference committee and keeps Confederate flag on the pole. https://t.co/31p9Sd4hhM
— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) July 9, 2015
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goddamnedfrank Jul 8, 2015 6:25:48pm |
re: #14 FormerDirtDart
The man behind the dozens of proposed amendments to the Confederate battle flag bill being debated in the South Carolina House on Wednesday
A closer look at Rep. Mike Pitts
Broken link. You put in http:// twice.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:26:49pm |
re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
Source says GOP reps are twisting arms hard on the floor trying to get the Quinn amendment through.
Of course they are—they are scumbags—leading the gang—
Chris Corley
Greg Delleney
Rick Quinn
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:27:55pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:28:09pm |
Rep. Jim Merrill has taken to the floor now to try and return the discussion to the amendment. #ConfederateFlag https://t.co/oMgeOk7XKu
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
Rep. Jim Merrill: “There is no reason to oppose this bill other than having a clean bill.”
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
And Quinn’s amendment is a farce.
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:28:11pm |
The tone of the debate in the SC House is vastly different from the Senate.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:30:02pm |
re: #24 Kragar
Whats the Quinn Amendment?
It adds funding to the Confederate Relic Room so the flag can be displayed there.
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:30:18pm |
re: #24 Kragar
Whats the Quinn Amendment?
it calls on everybody to “Come all without, come all within”
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:30:40pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:31:30pm |
oooooooooooh
Rep. Horne says she's going to table amendment. Rep. Merill: “I hope you lose.” @wis10 #scpol #sctweets #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:33:03pm |
Republican member is trying to say fears of an amendment killing the bill is a “red herring.” Rep. Jenny Horne going at him now.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
Rep. Horne asks GOP member: “what are we gonna tell the people of Charleston if that flag is still flying tomorrow?”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Kragar Jul 8, 2015 6:34:34pm |
re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth
It adds funding to the Confederate Relic Room so the flag can be displayed there.
Nope
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darthstar Jul 8, 2015 6:34:41pm |
re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth
Well, they can start by telling them that elections matter and if they keep voting for these bigoted assholes, they’re going to stay in the 19th century forever as a state.
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:34:48pm |
This debate in the SC House is a window into the sick Lost Cause thinking of the neo-Confederate movement.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 9, 2015
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 6:36:16pm |
re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth
It adds funding to the Confederate Relic Room so the flag can be displayed there.
Is the Confederate Relic Room anything like the Confederate Rec Room, aside from the General James Longstreet memorial billiards table?
//
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:36:18pm |
Response from GOP member: “that we had some sympathy for the other side and those who have an attachment to the flag.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:36:21pm |
what did southrons do for heritage before secession when there was no confederate battle flag?
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EPR-radar Jul 8, 2015 6:36:58pm |
re: #35 Charles Johnson
Lets hope the exposure acts as a disinfectant.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:37:30pm |
I am getting some sports story when I click on the link
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 6:37:32pm |
I was told in no uncertain terms by a member of Senate leadership that an amendment would be rejected and trigger a conference committee.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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EPR-radar Jul 8, 2015 6:37:39pm |
re: #38 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
what did southrons do for heritage before secession when there was no confederate battle flag?
Extra floggings for the slaves. //half
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:38:21pm |
House moving to table Rep. @RickQuinnSC's amendment. A LOT of red (no) on the board.
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:38:58pm |
Rep. Kenny Bingham bashing the Senate for not having stayed around to wait for the bill if the House amended it. #ConfederateFlag
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
Merrill: “If we're going to vote, I'm cool. If not I'm going to yabber.” #ConfederateFlag
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:39:10pm |
re: #40 Aunty Entity Dragon
I am getting some sports story when I click on the link
Argh!
OK, here’s the link to the real video page: nbcnews.com
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#FergusonFireside Jul 8, 2015 6:39:22pm |
re: #27 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
it calls on everybody to “Come all without, come all within”
pfawwwwwww
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:39:37pm |
Is there any other link?? I tried again and all I get is NBC sports.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:40:02pm |
re: #46 Charles Johnson
Argh!
OK, here’s the link to the real video page: nbcnews.com
That did it :)
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:40:06pm |
NBC’s web developers are really screwing up tonight. This is pathetic.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:40:20pm |
House declines to scrap Rep. @RickQuinnSC's amendment on a 53-66 vote, which would require a displace at the Confederate Relic Room
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
Motion to table fails 53-66. Doesn't mean amendment passes, but can now get a vote to pass. @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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team_fukit Jul 8, 2015 6:40:39pm |
re: #38 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
They identified with the American Revolution. Commemorating battles at Cowpens and Kings Mountain were big for Carolinians. In many ways, the Confederates tried to define themselves as the vanguard of the American Revolution.
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 6:41:11pm |
Fuckers. Just a delay tactic to keep that piece of shit flag up.
Sorry for swear words….
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ozharas Jul 8, 2015 6:41:24pm |
I don’t how some of these Reps. will be able to look their fellow representatives in the eye after this.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:41:49pm |
re: #53 Jenner7
Fuckers. Just a delay tactic to keep that piece of shit flag up.
Sorry for swear words….
Just wait until every convention for the next year cancels.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:41:52pm |
Point of order raised on Rep. @RickQuinnSC's amendment, saying it is not germane- or appropriate. Quinn argues it is. @wis10 #scpol
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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stpaulbear Jul 8, 2015 6:42:19pm |
They’re not going to take it down, are they? Way to go, assholes.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:43:02pm |
Rep. @tommypopeSC rules amendment is germane. Debate still goes on. @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:43:07pm |
re: #34 darthstar
Well, they can start by telling them that elections matter and if they keep voting for these bigoted assholes, they’re going to stay in the 19th century forever as a state.
And it’s because they are such colossal assholes that I work so hard and spend my time and money to TRY and convince them that the Democrats are a better bet.
BTW—Mary Tinkler who is speaking now—I like her and supported her, but the only reason she’s in the House is that her opponent had to “step down” because of his legal and ethical issues.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:44:07pm |
re: #58 stpaulbear
They’re not going to take it down, are they? Way to go, assholes.
Never, ever underestimate te power of South Carolina hatred for “outsider influence”, not the self destuctive instincts of “Lost Causers”.
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EPR-radar Jul 8, 2015 6:44:18pm |
re: #53 Jenner7
Fuckers. Just a delay tactic to keep that piece of shit flag up.
Sorry for swear words….
That flag should come down immediately. It was a racist jackass move to put it up during the civil rights era, and moving it from the dome of the Capitol to a nearby government memorial wasn’t remotely close to being an adequate fix.
So it’s at least 50 years overdue to take the damn rag down.
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 6:44:19pm |
re: #54 ozharas
I don’t how some of these Reps. will be able to look their fellow representatives in the eye after this.
It’s easy to, when what is supposedly your soul is coal-black.
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:44:25pm |
The South Carolina business community is pleading with the legislature to take down the Confederate flag.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:44:53pm |
.@MT4SCHouse points out @scchamber has requested #confederateflag be removed. Points out economic development at stake. @wis10 #scpol
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 6:45:26pm |
re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth
Joy Reid @JoyAnnReid
Republican member is trying to say fears of an amendment killing the bill is a “red herring.”
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:45:55pm |
Democrat @RepRussellOtt says he doesn't have objections to @RickQuinnSC's amendment. But worries how an amendment would delay the bill.
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:46:19pm |
Ott says everything Quinn wants done can be done outside the amendment. Looks like Dems are about to try and bifurcate the issues.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:46:19pm |
re: #48 Aunty Entity Dragon
Is there any other link?? I tried again and all I get is NBC sports.
Try cspan-3. That’s what I’m watching.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:46:59pm |
Ott “I have put on the desk two resolutions: a house resolution and a joint resolution… joint res doesn't need to have 3 readings.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Belafon Jul 8, 2015 6:48:15pm |
I want one of those people who say “Democrats are the real racists” to answer:
If slavery and segregation are a Democratic thing, then why are Republicans the ones trying to keep the Confederate flag up?— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:48:19pm |
This little guy is a “legacy”—ran when his daddy retired mid-term.
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 6:48:41pm |
re: #64 Charles Johnson
.@MT4SCHouse points out @scchamber has requested #confederateflag be removed. Points out economic development at stake. @wis10 #scpol
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
Very apropos, since this whole magilla is about people making money from selling and owning their fellow human beings.
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 6:49:35pm |
re: #64 Charles Johnson
re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s the trick, isn’t it? Are the pro-business establishment GOPers going to be able to outlast the pro-flag TPers/Johnny Rebs and give the Dems the help they need to pass this with no amendments or is it going to be a complete shit show?
Right now, it looks like “complete shit show” is winning, unfortunately.
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team_fukit Jul 8, 2015 6:49:51pm |
re: #38 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
In the Midst of Perpetual Fetes: The Making of American Nationalism 1776-1820 by David Waldstreicher is a great book on celebrations of Early Republic nationalism, has some stuff about how that played out in the South too.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:50:53pm |
Dem Rep has proposed a measure that would make the Quinn amendment a standalone bill, preserves clean bill. https://t.co/nSdwyXnE30
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
@GCobbHunter speaking in support of the Ott compromise now.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jul 8, 2015 6:52:08pm |
Gotta sign out now. Interesting…we will see what happens later tonight.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:53:34pm |
Here’s another online link:
For those who want to watch the battle flag debate remarks of Representative Jenny Horne, @cspan has you covered: http://t.co/4WJ9T7q9lt
— Alan Blinder (@alanblinder) July 9, 2015
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 6:53:44pm |
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 6:55:39pm |
I get the feeling the SC House doesn’t like the SC Senate. lol
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:56:09pm |
Current speaker points out the SC Senate passed their bill quickly with only 3 amendments, while the House has been here all day w/ 60+.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 6:56:17pm |
What the fuck. Dave Weigel retweeting racist neo-Confederate Robert Stacy McCain again.
There’s something seriously strange going on with Weigel.
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EPR-radar Jul 8, 2015 6:57:07pm |
re: #81 Jenner7
I get the feeling the SC House doesn’t like the SC Senate. lol
We’re getting a good look at the kind of rank bigotry and batshit insanity that is more prevalent in the state-level GOP than at the national level.
What a shithole.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 6:57:08pm |
.@leonstav takes to the podium: “Frustration starts to set in.” @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag #sctweets
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 6:57:16pm |
re: #81 Jenner7
I get the feeling the SC House doesn’t like the SC Senate. lol
Whaa, whatevah do yew mean, ma dear?
Notice the Dems speak eloquently and clearly, and the Repubs are all bluster and blowhard crap.
Ugh—this state has really aged me!
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Kragar Jul 8, 2015 6:58:58pm |
re: #83 Charles Johnson
I stopped following him a while back. He’s got some problems
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 6:59:55pm |
re: #76 team_fukit
In the Midst of Perpetual Fetes: The Making of American Nationalism 1776-1820 by David Waldstreicher is a great book on celebrations of Early Republic nationalism, has some stuff about how that played out in the South too.
Haven’t read that one (and will now that you recommend it), but I did read Waldstreicher’s “Slavery’s Constitution” a couple of years ago and found it very informative and well written in a clear non-academic style.
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 8, 2015 7:01:47pm |
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 7:02:23pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:05:38pm |
.@leonstav: “This amendment isn't necessary.” @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
.@leonstav names the high-ranking @scsenategop that voted for #ConfederateFlag bill, says they wouldn't vote to destroy heritage. @wis10
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
.@leonstav: “I can't in good conscience vote for an amendment tonight.” @wis10 #scpol #sctweets #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
.@leonstav: “Can you go home & explain how this amendment was more important than message we need to send tonight?” @wis10 #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 7:06:30pm |
re: #38 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
what did southrons do for heritage before secession when there was no confederate battle flag?
Beat the shit out of Blacks, Jews, native Americans and the Irish?
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Kragar Jul 8, 2015 7:06:48pm |
All GOP presidential hopefuls decline speaking invite to America’s largest annual gathering of Latino leaders http://t.co/rYeDj2dR1z
— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 8, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:09:03pm |
I'm sorry. I won't be a part of anything except the immediate removal of the Confederate flag from the Statehouse. http://t.co/OxqqbD74Db
— JennyHorne (@JennyHorne) July 9, 2015
She’s actually a solid Republican, but she’s also a decent human (and so will probably be drummed out of their party.)
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Charles Johnson Jul 8, 2015 7:09:15pm |
You rock. Thanks for standing up. @JennyHorne
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 9, 2015
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Joe Bacon Jul 8, 2015 7:09:17pm |
re: #95 Kragar
[Embedded content]
Amazing to see that Republicans are too stupid to remember two words
PETE WILSON
The man who destroyed the Republican Party in California!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:10:08pm |
Memphis City Council unanimously votes to begin removing monument to first KKK grand wizard http://t.co/0lnK1o77mm
— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 8, 2015
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 7:10:30pm |
@GCobbHunter moves that the chamber recess till morning. Loud “no” vote. We continue, it seems.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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team_fukit Jul 8, 2015 7:10:45pm |
re: #89 De Kolta Chair
Yeah Slavery’s Constitution was awesome! Runaway America is also very outstanding and gives him a chance to riff on his two favorite topics: Ben Franklin and slavery. Fetes was his first book.
He’s worked in publishing before and was the editor of Journal of the Early Republic until recently. Comes from an English lit/American studies background, hence the engaging writing style. Great historian, great mensch too.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:11:20pm |
Rep. Jenny Horne: “If you cannot be moved by the suffering of the people of Charleston, then you don’t have a heart.” #ConfederateFlag
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
Rep. Jenny Horne: “I would ask you all to dig deep and find the courage to do the right thing.”
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
By a vote of 55-53 , the House has voted to stay in session to continue debate on the #ConfederateFlag bill.
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:12:34pm |
.@GCobbHunter asks to recur to morning hour to hear Rep. Ott's resolution. @schouse divided. @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
Vote to recur fails by two votes. Rep. Ott's resolution won't be read. @wis10 #scpol #sctweets #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 7:13:43pm |
Rep. Leon Howard: Let’s not treat this like a football game.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:13:45pm |
get the sad trombones and tiny violins:
.@MikePittsSC takes podium, says he has been treated w/ a “dual standard.” @wis10 #scpol #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:19:44pm |
“If this amendment passes, the flag is not going to come down any time soon” Rep. Bamberg—And that’s a Bingo (and exactly what the scumbag Republicans want.)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:21:41pm |
Lawmakers have now been in the @SCHouse for 12 hours now. @wis10 #scpol #sctweets pic.twitter.com/it0HkU7PqI
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:23:38pm |
A vote to amend S897 will delay removal of flag from Statehouse for weeks. If we don't pass this immediately & unamended then shame on us.
— JennyHorne (@JennyHorne) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:25:04pm |
“The flag needs to come down tonight, period.”—Bamberg.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:26:10pm |
Make no mistake. Democrats just gave Republicans everything they wanted. And they voted against it.
— Tyler Jones (@TylerMJones) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:29:14pm |
Sandifer, the goop that’s whining now, is a mortician.
Bamberg is doing a great job. Love that he brought up what it would mean to take it down before the big KKK rally.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:30:16pm |
@GCobbHunter says “the gig is up. We now know what the real deal is. We are in a process of delay, delay, delay.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:31:24pm |
@GCobbHunter “w/ all the talk about grace, we could not get enough members to put their money where their mouth is to vote thru Ott's bill”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:32:59pm |
This isn't about the amendments. It's about killing the bill. Like any filibuster. https://t.co/7Seg9jz9Y9
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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De Kolta Chair Jul 8, 2015 7:33:39pm |
re: #101 team_fukit
Yeah Slavery’s Constitution was awesome! Runaway America is also very outstanding and gives him a chance to riff on his two favorite topics: Ben Franklin and slavery. Fetes was his first book.
He’s worked in publishing before and was the editor of Journal of the Early Republic until recently. Comes from an English lit/American studies background, hence the engaging writing style. Great historian, great mensch too.
If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times — we live in a golden age of well-researched, clearly written books about history and science aimed at the general public. The best seller lists and library shelves are proof of that.
I look forward to reading more of Mr. Waldstreicher’s books, and once again, thanks for the recommendations. ;-)
Now, once more into the breach, my friends, and off to dreamland!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:34:08pm |
Rep. @GCobbHunter making it plain: “there are a whole lot of people outside this chamber who are looking at listening to you.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 7:34:10pm |
re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth
Make no mistake. Democrats just gave Republicans everything they wanted. And they voted against it.
— Tyler Jones (@TylerMJones) July 9, 2015
The SC House GOPers are holding out and nakedly playing for time, because they know, the longer this drags out after Roof’s massacre, the more likely it is they can completely bury this bill to remove the CSA battle flag from the Capitol grounds after the initial outrage abates.
Remember, just like their RR compatriots, they play the long game.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:34:59pm |
“There are a whole lot of people outside this chamber who are looking at and listening to you”—Gilda.
“You want people to bow and genuflect?”
Kick ass, woman!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:35:33pm |
@GCobbHunter calls out Republicans, accuses them of not really wanting Quinn's amendment. “You just want to stall.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:35:56pm |
.@JennyHorne asks Rep. Tallon to change his vote & recur to morning our. Tallon says no. @wis10 #ConfederateFlag pic.twitter.com/xs7vAH09HA
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:36:58pm |
.@GCobbHunter says its disingenuous of Republicans to say they'll allow the bill to pass w/ an amendment b/c changes will delay its passing
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:37:23pm |
You guys would have LOVED hearing Gilda on the issue of domestic violence at our issues conference.
She is the real deal.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:37:35pm |
@GCobbHunter for the win: “you're a little soft with that gavel, Mr Speaker.” Says this late at night he's gonna have to make more noise.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:38:17pm |
@GCobbHunter says corporations are supportive of the Senate bill. She's waving the corporate red flags.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 7:39:22pm |
“Ya’ll, let’s just get real here…”
Loving this woman.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:40:22pm |
GCH: “Let's get real here. If you don't want the bill let's skip all the delaying. Why don't we just move to a vote up or down on the bill.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:41:41pm |
GCH: “and you all can go on and spent it in the way you want to spin it. You've got all this national press here. You can practice on them.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
GCH: “You're gonna need to be able to explain how you snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
GCH: “You're gonna need to explain to all those corporations why that flag is still flying.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
GCH with the coup de grace: “who in their right mind would want to come to a state with us?” with the confederate flag still flying.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:43:30pm |
AA speaker points out every flag in SC flew at half mast after the Charleston massacre, except the confederate flag which flew “unbowed.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
AA speaker (and U.S. Army veteran.): “you cannot serve two masters. You cannot pay homage to two flags.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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aagcobb Jul 8, 2015 7:43:57pm |
re: #116 BeachDem
Sandifer, the goop that’s whining now, is a mortician.
Bamberg is doing a great job. Love that he brought up what it would mean to take it down before the big KKK rally.
Won’t the GOP be proud when the Klan celebrates their victory in keeping the flag flying!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:44:45pm |
Rep speaking now is Cesar McKnight. Says “I have watched my colleagues all day refuse to call the civil war the civil war.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:45:18pm |
The tone has changed drastically in the last 3 hours. @SCHouseGOP & @SCHouseDems have swapped positions on offense & defense. @wis10
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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FormerDirtDart Jul 8, 2015 7:45:32pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:46:53pm |
Rep. McKnight calls the CF “shameful and divisive,” saying it promotes hate.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
Rep Bamberg: “I am truly, truly embarrassed to call SC home. I am embarrassed that my colleagues have chosen to forget the 9 lives lost…
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:48:49pm |
re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth
CORRECTED: Rep. John King: “I am truly, truly embarrassed to call SC home. I am embarrassed that my colleagues have chosen to forget the
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:49:30pm |
KING: “9 lives lost on June 17, including our dear colleague Sen. Clementa Pinckney. It is truly a sad day in SC.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:52:09pm |
Rep. King: “what more does it have to take. does it have to take another rep or senator to get killed for you all to recognize the hate and
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
… the pain that is behind this flag? What does it take?”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
| 145 |
Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:53:13pm |
King: “our colleague, Mr. Ott, has given you exactly what you asked for. … Let's don't fool the people of South Carolina.”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 7:54:03pm |
Gilda when she was named to the SC Democratic Women’s Council Hall of Fame last month.
With Gilda at Day in Blue 2015| 147 |
Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:54:59pm |
Rep. King is going off, says everything he's heard in the chamber today is about “me me me” and re-election.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
| 148 |
Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 7:56:01pm |
another live link:
@JoyAnnReid watch this historic debate live here - http://t.co/x93euzDUGH
— MrStinkFinger (@MrStinkFingers) July 9, 2015
| 149 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:00:02pm |
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Rep. Robert Williams hints Republicans have already made up their minds in voting in favor of amending the #ConfederateFlag bill
— Cynthia Roldan (@CynthiaRoldan) July 9, 2015
If that’s true, long may the flag of hate and rebellion wave.
Again I say, Fuck.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 8:00:25pm |
Rep. @collins_neal missed his business flight to come back and vote. Just entered @schouse. @wis10 #scpol #sctweets #ConfederateFlag
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
| 151 |
Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 8:03:28pm |
Quote on debate: “Tonight has been a classic showcasing of fact that the New South has no statesmen, only politicians.” @wis10 #scpol
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
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aagcobb Jul 8, 2015 8:06:14pm |
re: #149 BeachDem
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
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If that’s true, long may the flag of hate and rebellion wave.
Again I say, Fuck.
The Klan rally at the Capital on July 18 will be a victory celebration. Thanks Republicans!
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:07:05pm |
re: #152 aagcobb
The Klan rally at the Capital on July 18 will be a victory celebration. Thanks Republicans!
Makes me want to puke. (I’m drinking wine at a rate that may ensure that happening.)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 8, 2015 8:09:08pm |
My internet connection is starting to get flaky, so I’ll say good night.
— The Cult Cat (@Elverojaguar) July 8, 2015
laterz, lizardz!
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 8:11:03pm |
re: #149 BeachDem
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
If that’s true, long may the flag of hate and rebellion wave.
Again I say, Fuck.
Like I said, the SC House GOPers are playing the long game, because they’re counting on the nation’s short attention span in bailing them out and keeping the flag up.
It’s all a stall for time.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:11:04pm |
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I, of course, am biased, but I think a few Dems have been quite statesmanlike—Stavrinakis, Bamberg—and, of course, one Republican, Jenny Horne.
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stpaulbear Jul 8, 2015 8:11:08pm |
What is Nikki going to say tomorrow? I hope she’s watching in horror.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:12:14pm |
re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth
My internet connection is starting to get flaky, so I’ll say good night.
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laterz, lizardz!
No—don’t leave me!!! (Just kidding—good night.)
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#FergusonFireside Jul 8, 2015 8:13:00pm |
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 8:13:13pm |
re: #157 stpaulbear
What is Nikki going to say tomorrow? I hope she’s watching in horror.
Let her squirm…
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:14:41pm |
I’m here!
And I’m glad of it—Gilda’s motion going down by even more than before. FUCK!
My sleazoid rep voted yes this time—obviously had enough cover from his even sleazier colleagues.
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 8:16:22pm |
Loud “ayes” and “nos” on motion to continue the debate in the morning. Roll call vote coming.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:17:17pm |
re: #161 BeachDem
And I’m glad of it—Gilda’s motion going down by even more than before. FUCK!
My sleazoid rep voted yes this time—obviously had enough cover from his even sleazier colleagues.
Now he voted no—I’m so confused—I guess the first vote was on whether or not to vote and this is the vote. (I’m sure my confusion has nothing to do with wine!)
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:19:06pm |
re: #162 Jenner7
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I don’t think that’s what it means—I think it means they won’t let the Ott resolution come up for a vote, which means the amendment, which will cause the Senate bill to not take effect, is still alive.
Nope—maybe I have it backwards, because it seems they’re reading his resolution now. I am thoroughly confused.
| 165 |
Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 8:23:00pm |
re: #164 BeachDem
I’m not sure what’s going on now. I think they are now trying to remove the resolution. ??? Dunno, too much going on so fast.
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 8:24:09pm |
Dems proposing to withdraw the Ott resolution now. This likely means a substitute bill is in the works.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:25:13pm |
re: #165 Jenner7
I’m not sure what’s going on now. I think they are now trying to remove the resolution. ??? Dunno, too much going on so fast.
They obviously don’t know what they’re voting on either as they keep trying to explain it. Right now, whatever they’re voting on, we want a NO—(just watch Cobb-Hunter and Clyburn on the left column)
| 168 |
Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 8:26:17pm |
The mere fact that they have been there for 12 hours on just the amendments to this bill is fucking embarrassing.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:27:44pm |
re: #168 Jenner7
The mere fact that they have been there for 12 hours on just the amendments to this bill is fucking embarrassing.
Particularly because most of the amendments were bogus bullshit.
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Decatur Deb Jul 8, 2015 8:29:00pm |
Leave the damned thing up until the last Republican demands it be taken down. No sense fooling the folks, y’all.
Must sleep.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:30:51pm |
This kind of explains it—but I’m still confused.
Recur + Ott Resolution + Clean Bill = Win for SC
— Taft Matney (@taftmatney) July 9, 2015
| 172 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:34:57pm |
This is by far the most dysfunctional I've ever seen the SC House. And I was here for 2009 & 2010 budget debates.
— SC Radio News Team (@scrnnews) July 9, 2015
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:40:11pm |
Slavery was the purpose of the Civil War. Let’s not play with it. Let’s not be delusional.—David Mack.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:40:52pm |
Here we are with an opportunity to move forward and we step in it—we blow it.—David Mack.
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No Depression Jul 8, 2015 8:42:03pm |
Valiant effort by David Mack, but there’s no shaming the shameless into action.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:43:38pm |
re: #175 No Depression
Valiant effort by David Mack, but there’s no shaming the shameless into action.
Sadly, you’re right—the Republicans in this state have NO shame. And, as it doesn’t cost them one cent, they never will.
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 8:51:45pm |
Not sure cause the stupid feed keeps going out and when it’s not that, it’s my internet. Gah!
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:52:23pm |
What’s happening?
Dems are trying to shame the shameless. Not sure if they’re trying to whip votes to get the Ott compromise through with a clean bill (see my 171) or just hope the old Republicans will have to leave to go to sleep and miss the next vote.
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#FergusonFireside Jul 8, 2015 8:53:56pm |
Thanks for reporting. I’m going to call it a night.
See ya tomorrow.
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aagcobb Jul 8, 2015 8:54:05pm |
What’s happening?
Someone is giving a good speech about how Robert E. Lee furled his flag at Appomattox and it was never unfurled.
| 182 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:55:32pm |
Thanks for reporting. I’m going to call it a night.
See ya tomorrow.
I’ll give it another 15 minutes or so, then I’ll bury my head in my pillow as I wonder how ANYONE can be a Republican. Gah.
| 183 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 8:59:47pm |
re: #181 aagcobb
Someone is giving a good speech about how Robert E. Lee furled his flag at Appomattox and it was never unfurled.
Rep. @JamesSmithSC giving impassioned speech. Says #confederateflag was a middle finger to fed government. @wis10 #scpol
— Will Whitson WIS (@WillWhitsonWIS) July 9, 2015
| 184 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:01:32pm |
This is the guy who flew in from, I believe, Las Vegas. Not sure why.
| 185 |
FormerDirtDart Jul 8, 2015 9:04:38pm |
re: #184 BeachDem
This is the guy who flew in from, I believe, Las Vegas. Not sure why.
left to fly to Vegas, flight cancelled by weather, came back
| 186 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:05:29pm |
re: #185 FormerDirtDart
left to fly to Vegas, flight cancelled by weather, came back
He probably wouldn’t have been missed.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:06:15pm |
And now here’s fucking Rick Quinn. So surprised the shit he’s full of hasn’t turned his hair brown.
| 188 |
No Depression Jul 8, 2015 9:10:01pm |
Oh no the mean ol’ Democrats hurt Quinn’s poor widdle feelings. So sad :(
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:11:00pm |
re: #188 No Depression
Oh no the mean ol’ Democrats hurt Quinn’s poor widdle feelings. So sad :(
Yeah, poor widdle puglican. Cwy me a wiver, asshole.
| 194 |
blueraven Jul 8, 2015 9:14:38pm |
The amendment has been tabled. Was that the last one?
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:15:16pm |
Ott resolution passed. Now, the vote to take it down? Clean bill?
Holding breath again.
| 196 |
FormerDirtDart Jul 8, 2015 9:15:25pm |
Marion County, Florida commissioners voted unanimously Tuesday to put the Confederate flag back up at the county’s government complex. The flag was removed last Thursday and temporarily replaced with a flag with the seal of Marion County.
| 197 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:22:38pm |
Not wasting any time killing all the doofus amendments. Yay. It might actually happen.
Oh shit—a new amendment.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:26:17pm |
re: #198 blueraven
Oh hell, Pitts.
He just can’t give up the ghost. What. An. Asshole.
Why the fuck does he need an amendment to fly the SC State flag? He’s just trying to save face (looks like a revision of his “fly a white flag to show how the Repubs had to surrender” amendment.)
| 203 |
blueraven Jul 8, 2015 9:28:07pm |
re: #199 BeachDem
He just can’t give up the ghost. What. An. Asshole.
Why the fuck does he need an amendment to fly the SC State flag? He’s just trying to save face (looks like a revision of his “fly a white flag to show how the Repubs had to surrender” amendment.)
Wont any amendment send it to conference and delay till who knows when?
| 204 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:29:43pm |
re: #203 blueraven
Wont any amendment send it to conference and delay till who knows when?
I believe so—not sure though, as it’s such a benign piece of bullshit.
| 205 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:32:16pm |
If they don’t get to it soon, I think my computer is going to explode from having umpteen tabs open.
Gilda’s asking our question…
| 207 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:35:47pm |
Oh, here’s Merrill running his stupid mouth again.
He makes me ill.
| 209 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:36:18pm |
@GCobbHunter: “Light at the end of the tunnel turned out to be an oncoming train.”
— SC Radio News Team (@scrnnews) July 9, 2015
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 9:37:25pm |
I honestly could not be a Senator or Representative. There is no way I could laugh and smile with a dip shit like Merrill or Pitts. I would also swear like a sailor. But most of all, I could not handle this process of obstruction. I’d go insane.
| 211 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:37:31pm |
Shut the fuck up, Merrill. You’ve missed the point again. (It’s on the top of your head, asshole.)
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:40:15pm |
re: #210 Jenner7
I honestly could not be a Senator or Representative. There is no way I could laugh and smile with a dip shit like Merrill or Pitts. I would also swear like a sailor. But most of all, I could not handle this process of obstruction. I’d go insane.
That’s why I usually watch all debates etc. at home alone. When I go to watch parties, I have to practically tape my own mouth shut. Last time, at the Governor debate watch party, I had a nerf ball shooter to shoot at the screen, instead of screaming.
These assholes just don’t get that ANY FUCKING AMENDMENT SCREWS UP VOTING ON A CLEAN BILL—why is that such a fucking difficult concept for them to grasp?
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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:42:28pm |
BeachDem, I will take up the gin and tonics so you can stop the wine.*
* If you want to. I’m taking up the gin and tonics either way.
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:42:31pm |
Merrill, you douchenozzle—if you need reading glasses, that has nothing to do with your distance vision. I’ll buy you a fucking SC flag that you can carry around (it will go nicely with that hideous white suit.)
| 218 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:43:58pm |
Keerist on a cracker, now this asshole is doing a “history of the flag” powerpoint presentation. (GILDA—get up and smack this dipshit across the room, please.)
| 219 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:44:36pm |
re: #216 klys (maker of Silmarils)
BeachDem, I will take up the gin and tonics so you can stop the wine.*
* If you want to. I’m taking up the gin and tonics either way.
I’m about to pour the wine over my head, just for some relief!
| 220 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:45:58pm |
re: #219 BeachDem
I’m about to pour the wine over my head, just for some relief!
Well I’ll keep you company here.
| 221 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:49:08pm |
re: #220 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well I’ll keep you company here.
Thank you. I was going to quit it about 45 minutes ago, but I’m still here (and still drinking wine.)
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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:49:52pm |
re: #221 BeachDem
Thank you. I was going to quit it about 45 minutes ago, but I’m still here (and still drinking wine.)
The sad thing is, you will likely regret it in the morning, but none of those idiots will.
| 225 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:50:25pm |
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:50:30pm |
OK—that idiotic amendment went down. NOW can they finally get on with it (or does Merrill want to run his mouth again)
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RealityBasedSteve Jul 8, 2015 9:50:40pm |
re: #214 BeachDem
That’s why I usually watch all debates etc. at home alone. When I go to watch parties, I have to practically tape my own mouth shut. Last time, at the Governor debate watch party, I had a nerf ball shooter to shoot at the screen, instead of screaming.
These assholes just don’t get that ANY FUCKING AMENDMENT SCREWS UP VOTING ON A CLEAN BILL—why is that such a fucking difficult concept for them to grasp?
I am so stealing the Nerf Shooter idea.
RBS
| 229 |
RealityBasedSteve Jul 8, 2015 9:52:17pm |
They look like fighters going into the last round of one of the old 15 round championship fights, where both are just exhausted
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RealityBasedSteve Jul 8, 2015 9:52:36pm |
re: #228 blueraven
What exactly are they voting on now?
I’m not even sure they are sure any more. :)
| 231 |
blueraven Jul 8, 2015 9:53:01pm |
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 9:53:07pm |
re: #228 blueraven
They are voting to table a reconsideration motion
| 233 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:53:37pm |
re: #227 RealityBasedSteve
I am so stealing the Nerf Shooter idea.
RBS
It was cute—It was a little Democratic superhero and the nerf balls shot out of his stomach. (One of my temps on a project sent it to me)
| 234 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:53:49pm |
re: #230 RealityBasedSteve
I’m not even sure they are sure any more. :)
Maybe it’s a tactic to get the reps so confused that the bill passes or fails, depending on who is masterminding it.
| 235 |
blueraven Jul 8, 2015 9:54:43pm |
OK this should be it. Right after this asshole finishes.
| 236 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:55:14pm |
Fuck you, Sandifer—wah wah wah—the Senate made you do it. Get over it, asshole. We know you never wanted it to pass, but guess what—you’re outnumbered.
| 238 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 9:56:38pm |
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:58:42pm |
re: #239 blueraven
93 -7!
Well—93 to TWENTY Seven, but still even better than I thought it would be!
| 241 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 9:59:58pm |
Now it looks like they’re coming back in 2 minutes for the next reading.
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blueraven Jul 8, 2015 10:00:50pm |
re: #240 BeachDem
Well—93 to TWENTY Seven, but still even better than I thought it would be!
Yeah that what I thought, but they keep saying 7.
27 makes more sense
I dont care as long as it passed!
| 243 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 10:00:59pm |
/engages in pantomime for 2 minutes
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 10:06:49pm |
re: #243 klys (maker of Silmarils)
/engages in pantomime for 2 minutes
Thank you for the interlude—I needed some entertainment, because I’m sure as fuck not leaving before the third vote.
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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 10:07:56pm |
re: #245 BeachDem
Thank you for the interlude—I needed some entertainment, because I’m sure as fuck not leaving before the third vote.
I’m trying to be productive with my evening after a tasty izakaya dinner.
Mostly because dammit we did this stuff back in December and I really should have finished it all up then…
| 247 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 10:08:25pm |
They’re back in—they’ve prayed and pledged and are taking attendance—why is cspan still blabbing away?
| 250 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 10:13:09pm |
I’m very happy—just sad that Vincent and Bakari aren’t Governor and Lieutenant Governor when it happened.
| 251 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 10:13:18pm |
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RealityBasedSteve Jul 8, 2015 10:14:34pm |
re: #251 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Plausible deniability?
Exactly… they can tell their constituents “I didn’t vote to take down the flag” without having to deal with the fallout of actually voting to keep it up
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TedStriker Jul 8, 2015 10:14:50pm |
re: #251 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Plausible deniability?
Afraid of getting primaried when the time comes, no doubt.
re: #252 RealityBasedSteve
Exactly… they can tell their constituents “I didn’t vote to take down the flag” without having to deal with the fallout of actually voting to keep it up
That too.
| 254 |
BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 10:14:55pm |
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Jenner7 Jul 8, 2015 10:15:04pm |
Mr. “I don’t understand” Merrill has been voting yes on these. What a jerk face!
| 256 |
klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 10:15:56pm |
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blueraven Jul 8, 2015 10:18:22pm |
So, I wonder when the flag will come down? Later today, I hope.
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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 8, 2015 10:19:32pm |
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BeachDem Jul 8, 2015 10:19:50pm |
re: #258 Jenner7
Finally. What a night.
I know how thrilled I am—and I have friends here who have been fighting to get this done for more than 20 years. They have to be ecstatic!
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aagcobb Jul 9, 2015 4:29:17am |
Very glad to wake up this morning to find out they finally did the right thing. I also read the park service isn’t going to allow the Confederate Flag to be displayed at a couple of cemetaries operate by the park service in the South anymore. Progress.
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
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Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
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Views: 373 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
3 weeks ago
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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4 weeks ago
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
Views: 561 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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