Photo of the Day: A Better View of Pluto’s Mysterious Dark Spots

The last picture of this side of Pluto from the New Horizons spacecraft
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This is the best image we’re going to get from NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft of those four mysterious regularly spaced dark areas on Pluto. When the craft makes its closest approach on July 14, it will be flying past the other side of the planet; so this is New Horizons’ Last Portrait of Pluto’s Puzzling Spots.

The spots appear on the side of Pluto that always faces its largest moon, Charon—the face that will be invisible to New Horizons when the spacecraft makes its close flyby the morning of July 14. New Horizons principal investigator Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute, Boulder, Colorado, describes this image as “the last, best look that anyone will have of Pluto’s far side for decades to come.”

The spots are connected to a dark belt that circles Pluto’s equatorial region. What continues to pique the interest of scientists is their similar size and even spacing. “It’s weird that they’re spaced so regularly,” says New Horizons program scientist Curt Niebur at NASA Headquarters in Washington. Jeff Moore of NASA’s Ames Research Center, Mountain View, California, is equally intrigued. “We can’t tell whether they’re plateaus or plains, or whether they’re brightness variations on a completely smooth surface.”

The large dark areas are now estimated to be 300 miles (480 kilometers) across, an area roughly the size of the state of Missouri. In comparison with earlier images, we now see that the dark areas are more complex than they initially appeared, while the boundaries between the dark and bright terrains are irregular and sharply defined.

In addition to solving the mystery of the spots, the New Horizons Geology, Geophysics and Imaging team is interested in identifying other surface features such as impact craters, formed when smaller objects struck the dwarf planet. Moore notes, “When we combine images like this of the far side with composition and color data the spacecraft has already acquired but not yet sent to Earth, we expect to be able to read the history of this face of Pluto.”

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554 comments

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:18:19pm

Chillblains.

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b.d.  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:21:38pm

Pluto is just looking for attention after being snubbed.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:23:06pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:24:56pm

Dark spots matter.

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:27:53pm

Age spots?

(I bet this comment changes my ads)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:29:07pm

“Cure Pluto’s dark spots with an age old trick that astrophysicists don’t want you to know about.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:32:00pm

Pluto’s Mysterious Dark Spots

can they be blamed on illegal mexican immigrants?

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:35:11pm

If Pluto knew we were coming, it would have cleaned up.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:39:21pm

Those aren’t spots on Pluto, they’re letters…They read T G D N…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:43:03pm
Trump calls for ban on immigration from Pluto
“I can see Pluto from my fabulously appointed home,” the candidate told reporters. “And sometimes on my television,” Trump added.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:44:02pm

re: #3 jaunte

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I like “Somebody asks why New Horizons isn’t going into orbit”. You know somebody will!

Assuming standard storeable liquid propellants: New Horizons masses 478 kg. To kill its velocity ~472 of that would have to be propellant.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:47:01pm

re: #11 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I like “Somebody asks why New Horizons isn’t going into orbit”. You know somebody will!

Assuming standard storeable liquid propellants: New Horizons masses 478 kg. To kill its velocity ~472 of that would have to be propellant.

That post made me Google ‘New Horizons velocity’ - 36,373 mph. Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle!

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:48:17pm
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:48:24pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:48:30pm

re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White

That post made me Google ‘New Horizons velocity’ - 36,373 mph. Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle!

For reference, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:52:33pm

re: #15 Varek Raith

For reference, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

C, senor.
//

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:53:29pm

re: prvthd #278 aagcobb

If Frum wants a culturally modern, economically inclusive and environmentally responsible party, why doesn’t he just become a Democrat?

Because it is one of the Wingnut Rules that one must never, ever admit the Hated Left, or its semi-Centrist organization, The Hated Democrats, is right about something, because that opens the door to questioning the entirety of the Rightist faith, and pointing out that the Democrats are the Center-Right party that every wingnut columnist proposes as an “alternative” to the “extremes on Both Sides” is an admission that the Democrats are right.

Nor can our cock-sleeve media ever admit that the GOP is a tangled mass of racists, misogynists, xenophobes, elitists, ignorant meatsticks, rubes, and rich bastards, because to do that would mean that the past thirty years of continual ass-covering they’ve been doing for the GOP’s worst offenders was an act of insensate evil.

The system works so long as they prop it up - the Right does horrible, despicable, utterly mendacious shit, and when the left says “but we know that’s not true, and here’s proof”, the media dutifully says “But The Left, But The Liberals, But The Democrats” and desperately tries to equate some mild transgression - or just simple humanity - with the latest GOP crime against human decency.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:53:32pm

re: #15 Varek Raith

For reference, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

I tried to get my ‘99 Miata up to 186,000 miles per second out by Barstow one time. Missed it by that much.

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b.d.  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:55:31pm

re: #15 Varek Raith

For reference, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

I refuse to believe that, republicans taught us that we can disregard all science that we find inconvenient.

//

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Kid A  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:55:39pm

Doesn’t look a day over 6,000 years old.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:56:13pm

re: #18 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I tried to get my ‘99 Miata up to 186,000 miles per second out by Barstow one time. Missed it by that much.

“You might think it’s a long way to the chemists, but that’s just PEANUTS to space!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:57:31pm

re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White

That post made me Google ‘New Horizons velocity’ - 36,373 mph. Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle!

Solar System escape velocity here at Earth’s orbit is about 94,200—so it’s slowed down considerably, even after its boost at Jupiter.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:58:11pm

In 2009 I wrote this: A Reply to David Frum.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2015 • 3:58:57pm

re: #20 Kid A

Doesn’t look a day over 6,000 years old.

I have had YECs try to claim that the UNIVERSE is 15e9 years old, it’s only the Earth that’s younger. And I’ve had them claim that the Universe was created 6000 years ago to LOOK 15e9 years old.

I told them it was very thoughtful of God to write the entire history of stars that never existed into the lightwaves already in flight from where the stars never were.

They mumbled something about the speed of light changing….

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Kid A  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:00:46pm

If you’re a Republican, and you believe that the ACA is a reality that is here to stay and you need to work with Democrats to make the law work better, you will be tared-and-feathered and kicked out of the establishment. Just ask David Frum.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:00:50pm

re: #14 Franklin

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“I’m just a thawed-out caveman columnist….”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:09:23pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:10:27pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

I have had YECs try to claim that the UNIVERSE is 15e9 years old, it’s only the Earth that’s younger. And I’ve had them claim that the Universe was created 6000 years ago to LOOK 15e9 years old.

I told them it was very thoughtful of God to write the entire history of stars that never existed into the lightwaves already in flight from where the stars never were.

They mumbled something about the speed of light changing….

“We know the Earth’s billions of years old because of radioactive decay.”

“Well, how do we know the decay rate hasn’t changed?!”

*facepalm*

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:15:06pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

And they would have a problem with using carbon dating.

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aagcobb  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:18:22pm

This is why I love NASA; awesome, beautiful photographs of the universe. I like the image in the center-right of the photo that looks like a robot claw at the end of a tether rising up from the south.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:19:22pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

And they would have a problem with using carbon dating.

Holds out a stick. “How old is this, you so smart?”

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:19:41pm

But the biggest question right now is will New Horizons find out that Charon is really a mass relay?

/(Gamer moment)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:21:06pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

And they would have a problem with using carbon dating.

carbon dating works well unless you are interested in dating women more than 50 thousand years old

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:25:11pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

David Frum is a weasel, has been for a long time. What do you expect from a speechwriter for George W. Bush?

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:31:02pm

Shouldn’t Donald Trump be polishing his tiara in preparation for the upcoming YUUGGE ratings winner Miss USA pageant on that YUUGE cable station (that nobody has ever heard of) Reelz? You know, Reelz, the network with such highbrow offerings as:

Hollywood Hillbillies
Branson Taxi
Celebrity Damage Control
Hollywood Scandals
Beverly Hills Pawn

Reelz—owned by Hubbard Broadcasting, owners of KSTP, the lovely station that accused the mayor of Minneapolis of using “gang signs.”

Hmm, Donald Trump will fit right in.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:32:17pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

“We know the Earth’s billions of years old because of radioactive decay.”

“Well, how do we know the decay rate hasn’t changed?!”

*facepalm*

It could totally have been 750,000 times as fast in the past without vaporizing the Earth!//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:32:31pm

gee…that tourist looks an awful lot like Wolf Blitzer:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:34:26pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

gee…that tourist looks an awful lot like Wolf Blitzer:

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Bringing up Baby flashback!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:35:26pm

re: #15 Varek Raith

For reference, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

Please note the time units. New Horizons is traveling a bit over 10 miles per second, or about 0.000055 x the speed of light.

Not exactly warp speed, but still damned fast.

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Kid A  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:36:37pm

Let’s just say that this gets really funny at the 5:06 mark.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:42:01pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:48:15pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t wait to show this study to the twins, Mork and Xena.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:49:47pm

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Solar System escape velocity here at Earth’s orbit is about 94,200—so it’s slowed down considerably, even after its boost at Jupiter.

Are you sure about that? Wikipedia has this:

New Horizons is often given the title of Fastest Spacecraft Ever Launched, and left Earth faster than any other spacecraft to date. It is also the first spacecraft launched directly into a solar escape trajectory, which requires an approximate speed of 16.5 km/s (59,000 km/h; 37,000 mph), plus aerodynamic and gravity losses[clarification needed], all to be provided by the launcher.

en.wikipedia.org

NASA did use flybys of Jupiter and TItan to play crack-the-whip with New Horizons and boost its speed. After it passed Jupiter, it was trucking along at 51,000 mph, but has lost some of that speed on its way to Pluto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:51:26pm
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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:51:32pm

“In a party that seems to thrill to Bernie Sanders and maybe long for Elizabeth Warren, who are the Jim Webb Democrats?” asked Baier.

“I believe we can bring a different tone to the Democratic Party. You’re right,” Webb agreed. “The party has moved way far to the left, and that’s not my Democratic Party.”

Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party to run against Virginia Republican George Allen in 2006 — is currently polling at 2 percent nationally among prospective Democratic voters.

rawstory.com

Two points:
1. There are no, or at best very few, Jim Webb Democrats
2. Perhaps Webb should go ahead and cross back.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:53:18pm

So, this guy, MOAR STUPIDS than Ben Shapiro and Chuck C combined!

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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:55:13pm

re: #45 BeachDem

“In a party that seems to thrill to Bernie Sanders and maybe long for Elizabeth Warren, who are the Jim Webb Democrats?” asked Baier.

“I believe we can bring a different tone to the Democratic Party. You’re right,” Webb agreed. “The party has moved way far to the left, and that’s not my Democratic Party.”

Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party to run against Virginia Republican George Allen in 2006 — is currently polling at 2 percent nationally among prospective Democratic voters.

rawstory.com

Two points:
1. There are no, or at best very few, Jim Webb Democrats
2. Perhaps Webb should go ahead and cross back.

I’d like Jim Webb to explain to me what he means about the Democratic Party moving to the left when in fact every piece of legislation proposed by Obama has been centerist…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:57:45pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Are you sure about that? Wikipedia has this:

en.wikipedia.org

NASA did use flybys of Jupiter and TItan to play crack-the-whip with New Horizons and boost its speed. After it passed Jupiter, it was trucking along at 51,000 mph, but has lost some of that speed on its way to Pluto.

Yeah, from any orbit, escape velocity is the square root of 2 times circular velocity. You get almost 30,000 m/s just from Earth’s velocity around the sun. The extra is just the .4142….

Edit: didn’t like my radical sign :-(

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b.d.  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:57:48pm

re: #45 BeachDem

They need to find a museum spot, next to the rebel flag, to put Webb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:58:21pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 4:59:02pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is sad. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:00:05pm
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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:00:24pm

Don’t know if this has been posted before, haven’t read the other threads yet.

VIENNA (AP) — Negotiators at the Iran nuclear talks plan to announce Monday that they’ve reached a historic deal capping nearly a decade of diplomacy that would curb the country’s atomic program in return for sanctions relief, two diplomats told The Associated Press on Sunday.

msn.com

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:01:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:01:19pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too soon?

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:02:21pm

re: #40 Kid A

Richard Dawkins needs to speak more on science and evolution and much much less on Muslims.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:04:30pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

You bad, goddamnedfrank, you so bad!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:07:12pm

re: #54 Skip Intro

Nice double entendre.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:07:55pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:08:32pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

Nice double entendre.

To go with that old Mama’s Got a Squeezebox song….

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:14:06pm

Just got a tip that Chucky is back on Twitter, using this account: @RonReaganLives.

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:14:57pm

I wish they had invited me. Rock on!

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:18:02pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Just got a tip that Chucky is back on Twitter, using this account: @RonReaganLives.

How so many followers?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:19:02pm

re: #63 #FergusonFireside

He didn’t create the account - it’s been on Twitter for a while. But he reportedly has “access” to it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:19:15pm

re: #63 #FergusonFireside

Hopefully very few.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:19:54pm

re: #63 #FergusonFireside

Check out the follower list:

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:20:34pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

He didn’t create the account - it’s been on Twitter for a while. But he reportedly has “access” to it.

Ah.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:20:47pm

THIS ASSHOLE:

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:21:16pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

He didn’t create the account - it’s been on Twitter for a while. But he reportedly has “access” to it.

Reported as hacked.

ha

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:22:02pm

To put Iwata’s career into perspective, one of his first projects at Nintendo was Balloon Fight, all the way back in 1986.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:22:25pm

re: #48 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, from any orbit, escape velocity is the square root of 2 times circular velocity. You get almost 30,000 m/s just from Earth’s velocity around the sun. The extra is just the .4142….

Edit: didn’t like my radical sign :-(

It easy to get confused, because the speeds quoted often don’t include the “with respect to” part. New Horizons was going more than 36,000 mph wrt Earth, but it also had Earth’s orbital speed as well. So wrt the Sun, it had plenty of velocity to escape Earth’s solar orbit and head outward on an exchange orbit toward its Jupiter encounter, to get a speed boost from the slingshot effect.

Orbital mechanics is a complex subject, and I admire those people who plan and execute these missions. They’re dealing with constantly changing gravitational fields, while trying to reach several large moving objects while not actually hitting them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:24:18pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Just got a tip that Chucky is back on Twitter, using this account: @RonReaganLives.

I wondered about that one, because one of the tweets asked if gingers were white people, but I thought it was referring to Trump.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:24:41pm

I love how Chuck is busted in 4 tweets flat.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:24:48pm

re: #66 jaunte

He’s following neo-Nazi “weev” - Chuck’s pal.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:24:50pm

re: #62 Skip Intro

Replaced with a funner song

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:24:55pm

laterz, lizardz!

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:25:32pm

Crap. There’s a tornado watch for a big chunk of MN, IA and western WI right now. Looks like there’s lots of tornado warnings in north central MN. The temp index has been 100 all afternoon here and super muggy (I have one air conditioned room and when I left the room my glasses fogged over), so this isn’t a huge surprise, but I hope that we don’t get nailed with something awful.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:26:32pm

re: #45 BeachDem

“In a party that seems to thrill to Bernie Sanders and maybe long for Elizabeth Warren, who are the Jim Webb Democrats?” asked Baier.

“I believe we can bring a different tone to the Democratic Party. You’re right,” Webb agreed. “The party has moved way far to the left, and that’s not my Democratic Party.”

Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party to run against Virginia Republican George Allen in 2006 — is currently polling at 2 percent nationally among prospective Democratic voters.

rawstory.com

Two points:
1. There are no, or at best very few, Jim Webb Democrats
2. Perhaps Webb should go ahead and cross back.

the D’s haven’t moved left at all; Webb ran as a D because the R’s had move so far right. Webb hasn’t moved Left or Right at all, the parties moved around him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:26:44pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

He didn’t create the account - it’s been on Twitter for a while. But he reportedly has “access” to it.

Meaning it’s someone he knews, or someone he hijacked?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:26:51pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

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Too soon?

I was about to post the same thing.

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Kid A  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:28:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:30:17pm

By the way - one of the users commenting at Chucky’s site is “European American,” a pretty obvious white nationalist. And here’s his Disqus user avatar:

That’s mass murderer Anders Breivik. Here’s the full sized image: independent.co.uk

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:30:46pm

Such Presidential, Very Leadership!

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:32:29pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

“We know the Earth’s billions of years old because of radioactive decay.”

“Well, how do we know the decay rate hasn’t changed?!”

*facepalm*

I have a creationist up at work that argues - and he got this from a book - that the radioactive elements we measure in rocks to determine their age may be seeping in and out over the last 6000 years so we can’t be sure how old the rocks actually are.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:32:30pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Why would a POTUS negotiate with an escaped prisoner? He’s nuts.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:32:40pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

There’s that third person shit!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:34:00pm

“European American’s” Disqus account was just created on July 10, and the only comments he’s posted are at Chuck’s site. Hmmm.

disqus.com

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:36:46pm

A R/L and FB friend of mine has a butthurtz with me now. She posted some rightwing meme about how people who get any govt. assistance should be drug tested, not allowed to vote, etc. (you know the deal) That if you don’t like those rules, don’t take the money, you didn’t earn it.

I simply posted a page-long comment rebutting every point in the meme, and added “So, anybody that gets a Pell Grant or SSI for disability should also be drug tested and stripped from the voting rolls, since they are getting money that isn’t ‘earned’”. (and she is receiving SSI and applying for a Pell Grant).

She wanted to know “Why are you picking on me Steve”, and I told her the truth… “You are a smart person, you need to learn how to think however”

Sometimes I just have to work on my soft skills.

RBS

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:37:15pm

re: #84 Belafon

I have a creationist up at work that argues - and he got this from a book - that the radioactive elements we measure in rocks to determine their age may be seeping in and out over the last 6000 years so we can’t be sure how old the rocks actually are.

I know one creationist dude who pulls out the DNA is God’s signature on His creations! nonsense. It’s maddening.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:37:22pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

“European American’s” Disqus account was just created on July 10, and the only comments he’s posted are at Chuck’s site. Hmmm.

disqus.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:37:23pm

re: #85 jaunte

The Secret Service would not let it happen. A felon would not even be allowed anywhere near POTUS.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:38:13pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

“European American’s” Disqus account was just created on July 10, and the only comments he’s posted are at Chuck’s site. Hmmm.

disqus.com

Gee, another sockpuppet account? Are we surprised?

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:38:25pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

I’m surprised she didn’t accuse you of violating her first amendment rights.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:38:35pm

re: #92 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

no

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:38:48pm

Yikes! That’s some nasty weather! And Dennis, WTF with the Ron Paul?!?

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:39:04pm
Satoru Iwata quote from GDC 2005 keynote speech
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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:39:32pm

I just followed @RonReaganLives. Let’s see what happens next.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:40:23pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

“It’s Happening” is a memetic thing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:40:41pm

Been checking out Chuck’s site, and he’s running all sorts of paranoid stuff these days. He set up a “content security policy” that’s generating all sorts of warnings in the Javascript console.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:41:09pm

Now if you’ll all excuse me I’m going to go play Earthbound. Because.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:41:24pm

re: #84 Belafon

I have a creationist up at work that argues - and he got this from a book - that the radioactive elements we measure in rocks to determine their age may be seeping in and out over the last 6000 years so we can’t be sure how old the rocks actually are.

Creation “scientists” make up all kinds of shit to counter real scientific evidence that refute YEC: changing speed of light, changing decay rates, migration of radioactive elements into and out of rocks, unreliability of C dating, and on and on.

Their version of Occam’s razor is a 2x4.

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gwangung  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:41:28pm

re: #84 Belafon

I have a creationist up at work that argues - and he got this from a book - that the radioactive elements we measure in rocks to determine their age may be seeping in and out over the last 6000 years so we can’t be sure how old the rocks actually are.

Well, geez, I only just worked in the lab with these things and we sure as hell would know if there was any migration of material into and out of the samples we selected for testing (IOW, scientists are not stupid).

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:41:30pm

re: #77 stpaulbear

Crap. There’s a tornado watch for a big chunk of MN, IA and western WI right now. Looks like there’s lots of tornado warnings in north central MN. The temp index has been 100 all afternoon here and super muggy (I have one air conditioned room and when I left the room my glasses fogged over), so this isn’t a huge surprise, but I hope that we don’t get nailed with something awful.

Lower Alabama only went to 96 today.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:42:15pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Such Presidential, Very Leadership!

Who could ever forget the famous Bootleg Hootch Summit held by Calvin Coolidge and Dutch Schultz? Chucky devoted a whole chapter to it in his tome, “I Pooped On Coolidge’s Grave.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:42:52pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Been checking out Chuck’s site, and he’s running all sorts of paranoid stuff these days. He set up a “content security policy” that’s generating all sorts of warnings in the Javascript console.

Is he trying to prevent people from copying stuff off his site?

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:43:03pm

re: #96 Chan Kobun

Man, he was young. 56 is too young.

RIP Saturo Iwata

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:43:10pm

re: #84 Belafon

I have a creationist up at work that argues - and he got this from a book - that the radioactive elements we measure in rocks to determine their age may be seeping in and out over the last 6000 years so we can’t be sure how old the rocks actually are.

They get this garbage from a site called “Answers in Genesis.” It’s your one-stop shop for ridiculous creationist talking points.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:43:43pm

re: #105 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is he trying to prevent people from copying stuff off his site?

Who knows? I think his mind is going.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:44:30pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Too much booze or inhaling too much airplane glue?

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:45:57pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

Too much booze or inhaling too much airplane glue?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:46:05pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

Too much FAIL.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:47:03pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

Too much booze or inhaling too much airplane glue?

You kids today and your toluene-free glue. Back in the day…

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:48:10pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

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Hey, that’s The Dude’s old man!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:49:11pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Who knows? I think his mind is going.

Pretty sure it’s already gone.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:50:19pm

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:50:44pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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That was sad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:50:57pm

Just saw some footage of a pro Confederate flag rally in Alabama. Someone had one of these:

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:51:46pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

Yikes! That’s some nasty weather! And Dennis, WTF with the Ron Paul?!?

Ron Paul is on a tv marketing binge of late. Gotta wonder who his backers are.

Just kidding, they’re the same old racists and anti-Semites who’ve always backed him.

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:52:49pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

The actual temps were closer to 90, but the ‘feels like’ temp has been at 100. I wish my cat would go hang out in the room with AC but she doesn’t want to stay there (I even created a cat door into the room so she can come and go).

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:54:14pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

That was sad.

Yeah, kind of sad until you recall that HAL 9000 had just ejected Bowman into space without a spacesuit.

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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:55:47pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

The Donald is on it, like he was on Obama’s birth certificate….

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:55:51pm

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:56:01pm

re: #119 stpaulbear

The actual temps were closer to 90, but the ‘feels like’ temp has been at 100. I wish my cat would go hang out in the room with AC but she doesn’t want to stay there (I even created a cat door into the room so she can come and go).

Ah. Any day the measured temp is below 100, with 85% humidity, will be counted a good day for the next 6-8 weeks. I try for 20 minute sorties to do chores.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:56:32pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Yeah, kind of sad until you recall that HAL 9000 had just ejected Bowman into space without a spacesuit.

He was very mission-oriented.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:57:57pm

re: #119 stpaulbear

The actual temps were closer to 90, but the ‘feels like’ temp has been at 100. I wish my cat would go hang out in the room with AC but she doesn’t want to stay there (I even created a cat door into the room so she can come and go).

Peaked here today just above 90, but with the humidity it was a heat index up around 100-105. I got a couple of nice dives in today, down to about 90 feet, work our way up to about 60 or so, then finish it out in the shallows. It was about 48 degrees at depth, and felt really refreshing. The only problem is that something is killing off the catfish at the quarry we dive at, very few swimming around at the surface, and I saw 15-20 dead ones on the bottom today. They poured some cement to make a ramp into the water, they are wondering if that somehow did it. The bass and bluegill don’t seem to be affected. It was sad.

RBS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:58:02pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Yeah, kind of sad until you recall that HAL 9000 had just ejected Bowman into space without a spacesuit.

I remember reading an article back when that movie came out about the scientific accuracy of that ejection scene. It was correct. Bowman had about 90 seconds available to jump from his pod into the spacecraft and repressurize, before bad things started to happen to him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:59:06pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

And in dead silence, until the airlock began to repressurize.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2015 • 5:59:54pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

A R/L and FB friend of mine has a butthurtz with me now. She posted some rightwing meme about how people who get any govt. assistance should be drug tested, not allowed to vote, etc. (you know the deal) That if you don’t like those rules, don’t take the money, you didn’t earn it.

I simply posted a page-long comment rebutting every point in the meme, and added “So, anybody that gets a Pell Grant or SSI for disability should also be drug tested and stripped from the voting rolls, since they are getting money that isn’t ‘earned’”. (and she is receiving SSI and applying for a Pell Grant).

She wanted to know “Why are you picking on me Steve”, and I told her the truth… “You are a smart person, you need to learn how to think however”

Sometimes I just have to work on my soft skills.

RBS

Drug testing welfare applicants is a scam for the testing labs.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:00:17pm

re: #127 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And in dead silence, until the airlock began to repressurize.

In space, no one can hear you say “oh shit”.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:01:08pm

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I remember reading an article back when that movie came out about the scientific accuracy of that ejection scene. It was correct. Bowman had about 90 seconds available to jump from his pod into the spacecraft and repressurize, before bad things started to happen to him.

Yeah, most science fiction films and shows have absurd depictions of vacuum exposure.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:01:32pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Yeah, kind of sad until you recall that HAL 9000 had just ejected Bowman into space without a spacesuit.

A good joke, but I believe Bowman was suited up, and going down to Jupiter was his idea not HAL’s, who at that point was kaput.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:01:44pm

Poldark is on.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:02:53pm

re: #131 De Kolta Chair

A good joke, but I believe Bowman was suited up.

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IIRC, that’s for a ‘dream’ sequence. When he gets in the lock, he snags a helmet of non-matching color.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:03:30pm

The WEIRDEST bike short film is on TCM right now & WW isn’t logged in.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:04:06pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

IIRC, that’s for a ‘dream’ sequence. When he gets in the lock, he snags a helmet of non-matching color.

I knew I should’ve dropped acid before seeing it, even if I was only 12 at the time.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:04:20pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

This is a great book… amazon.com Lots of great stuff about how it was shot, plus it has the Stanley Clarke short story that was the inspiration for it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:04:41pm

Speaking of creepy AIs I’m watching Humans on AMC. It’s very good, highly recommend.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:05:11pm

re: #135 De Kolta Chair

I knew I should’ve dropped acid before seeing it.

Saw it in first-run theatre with 2 and 4 yr-old sons. Minds were blown.

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:05:14pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

I got to see 2001 in a Cinerama theater when it came out (The Cooper in St. Louis Park, MN). We were befuddled by the plot but the visuals were unreal. I took some of my friends to see it at a budget theater about 4 years later and it sucked; small screen/scratched-up print. Ugh.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:06:21pm

re: #130 Timothy Watson

Yeah, most science fiction films and shows have absurd depictions of vacuum exposure.

The worst was in Outland, where people pop like balloons.

And speaking of Sean Connery (who didn’t pop like a balloon), catch this Fox News FAIL.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:06:25pm

re: #131 De Kolta Chair

A good joke, but I believe Bowman was suited up, and going down to Jupiter was his idea not HAL’s.

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Nope, but I did misstate it - Bowman was outside the spacecraft and HAL 9000 wouldn’t open the pod bay door, forcing him to go into space without a helmet.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:07:43pm

re: #136 RealityBasedSteve

This is a great book… amazon.com Lots of great stuff about how it was shot, plus it has the Stanley Clarke short story that was the inspiration for it.

Arthur C. Clarke. The two are often confused for each other.
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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:08:56pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

Drug testing welfare applicants is a scam for the testing labs.

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I posted that graphic to the one wingnut I had as a facebook friend (the wife of a guitarist I played with in high school). I got unfriended for that one.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:09:38pm

re: #136 RealityBasedSteve

This is a great book… amazon.com Lots of great stuff about how it was shot, plus it has the Stanley Clarke short story that was the inspiration for it.

Heh. Stanley would laugh if he saw this.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:13:52pm

re: #136 RealityBasedSteve

This is a great book… amazon.com Lots of great stuff about how it was shot, plus it has the Stanley Clarke short story that was the inspiration for it.

I bought that book when it first came out, because I wanted to know “how’d they do that?” The FX were pretty amazing, when compared to the SF shows on the telly and the big screen.

Even now, film makers take shortcuts when dealing with interplanetary flight. I was glad to see Interstellar using a rotating torus to provide “gravity,” but I’ve rarely seen a rotating space station like the one in 2001. The O’Neil habitat in Babylon 5 comes close, though.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:14:03pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:14:15pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Nope, but I did misstate it - Bowman was outside the spacecraft and HAL 9000 wouldn’t open the pod bay door, forcing him to go into space without a helmet.

That fiend! ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:14:50pm

We already have a response.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:15:03pm

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Arthur C. Clarke. The two are often confused for each other.
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ARRRGHHH!!!!!! I was thinking something wasn’t right…. but I was thinking about the “e” at the end…. not that it was the wrong first name entirely.

What a maroon I am.

RBS

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:17:15pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

We already have a response.

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lol. You’ve got a bite.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:18:54pm

re: #146 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:19:56pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:21:51pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

Are we sure CCJ is using that account? The tweets follow basic rules of grammar and punctuation.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:22:44pm

Breakfast for dinner: Recipe from Skeeter’s a now closed all night breakfast restaurant in Gainesville FL. My memories live on.

Little Asher: Hash Browns topped with some melted cheese & a couple of over easy’s.

Plus bacon, because always bacon.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:22:49pm

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I bought that book when it first came out, because I wanted to know “how’d they do that?” The FX were pretty amazing, when compared to the SF shows on the telly and the big screen.

Even now, film makers take shortcuts when dealing with interplanetary flight. I was glad to see Interstellar using a rotating torus to provide “gravity,” but I’ve rarely seen a rotating space station like the one in 2001. The O’Neil habitat in Babylon 5 comes close, though.

I was impressed by the invisible rocket exhaust. Even today, people expect to see bright-yellow 125%-rich kerosene-oxygen flames regardless, and that’s what they give them. Even in Apollo 13! Grumble, grumble….

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:24:01pm

re: #153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Are we sure CCJ is using that account? The tweets follow basic rules of grammar and punctuation.

Hmm. You are correct. Does seem a bit fishy. And the account hasn’t mentioned “White Genocide” or “my hot Asian wife.”

We shall see.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:24:30pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Speaking of creepy AIs I’m watching Humans on AMC. It’s very good, highly recommend.

for those who missed it, you can catch up next weekend on BBCAmerica (all three eps, on Sunday, early evening)

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:31:08pm

They named the airport in Orange County, CA after this dude.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:34:15pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

Marion Morrison airport?

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:38:43pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

They named the airport in Orange County, CA after this dude.

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Nice espadrilles.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:39:04pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

They named the airport in Orange County, CA after this dude.

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well at least i’ve lived past the age of 52 without running the chance of getting photographed wearing short shorts

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:40:59pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:43:28pm

re: #159 Belafon

Marion Morrison airport?

Michael Keaton’s real name? Michael Douglas.
Anne Rice’s real name? Howard Allen O’Brien. (really, look it up)
Elton John’s real name? Reginald Kenneth Dwight.

Though contrary to popular belief, Clint Eastwood is actually his real name and not a stage name.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:46:59pm

Listening to Donald Trump swear and talk politics on his private plane

Watching The Republican Party Get Deliberately Blown Up By A Clown

so fragile

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:48:58pm
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:49:23pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

Bro do you even, well played.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:49:29pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:49:30pm

re: #162 De Kolta Chair

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“David Bowman’s” first film—the psychology is dated, but the art holds up:

imdb.com

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:51:32pm

re: #163 teleskiguy

Elton John’s real name? Reginald Kenneth Dwight.

One day, I was trying to remember his name, and for some reason I could remember Reginald Dwight but could not remember Elton John until I looked it up.

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aagcobb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:52:36pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

They get this garbage from a site called “Answers in Genesis.” It’s your one-stop shop for ridiculous creationist talking points.

Its Ken Hamm who built the Creation Museum and is building the Ark Park.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:53:38pm

re: #169 Belafon

One day, I was trying to remember his name, and for some reason I could remember Reginald Dwight but could not remember Elton John until I looked it up.

Well, Elton John was two people—Reginald Dwight and Bernie Taupin. I don’t know how they decided Reg would get custody of the name when they quit working together.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:53:43pm

Just another day 588 million kilometers from Earth…

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:54:23pm

I own the CD, the cassette and I am still excited that Dr. Dre’s The Chronic is on MUSIC.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:55:06pm

re: #172 De Kolta Chair

Just another day 588 million kilometers from Earth…

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HAL was a pineapple guy, so that explains a lot.

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aagcobb  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:55:40pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

Kubrick was a genius.

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psddluva4evah  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:58:43pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 6:58:51pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

“David Bowman’s” first film—the psychology is dated, but the art holds up:

imdb.com

The sleeper hit of that year. Cost less than $200,00 and made many times that. In a way it launched the 1960’s indie scene. I also remember that Pauline Kael hated hated hated it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:01:02pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

The sleeper hit of that year. Cost less than $200,00 and made many times that. In a way it launched the 1960’s indie scene. I also remember that Pauline Kael hated hated hated it.

Saw it at The Thalia.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:02:29pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

The sleeper hit of that year. Cost less than $200,00 and made many times that. In a way it launched the 1960’s indie scene. I also remember that Pauline Kael hated hated hated it.

Janet Margolin was a babe—hard to believe she and Stuart were brother and sister.

Wasn’t that the movie where Lord Larry asked who that was, and said “Keir Dullea, gone tomorrow”?

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aagcobb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:02:30pm

re: #164 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Listening to Donald Trump swear and talk politics on his private plane

Watching The Republican Party Get Deliberately Blown Up By A Clown

so fragile

Is Donald Trump trolling the GOP?

While it’s impossible to know what he’s thinking, the effects of Trump’s candidacy track the definition of a troll pretty well.

He’s infuriated Republican leaders by convincing a significant chunk of the primary electorate that he means what he says about immigration. The leaders are getting madder and madder because of the fix that puts them in: They can’t afford to let Trump make a mockery of the party, but they can’t openly rip their own voters for supporting him or try to tear him down publicly. If anything, that might trigger a pro-Trump backlash.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:04:22pm

re: #180 aagcobb

Is Donald Trump trolling the GOP?

Checking Empathy Detector…. reading 0.0

RBS

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Kid A  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:05:02pm

re: #180 aagcobb

I’ve been thinking about that all day today. I can’t figure out if Trump is real or if he’s Memorex.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:06:16pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

They named the airport in Orange County, CA after this dude.

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NEEDS MOAR RAINBOW!

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:06:41pm

re: #181 RealityBasedSteve

Checking Empathy Detector…. reading 0.0

RBS

Mr. Blutarsky….0.0

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:09:20pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Saw it at The Thalia.

Saw many a great flick there, but my favorite night was watching something by Satyajit Ray that was so boring that me and my best friend starting loudly making wise cracks to the screen ala MST3K and my wife made us move to the back row of the theatre. We were the only ones there.

I miss art houses.

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psddluva4evah  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:10:38pm

Just sitting here watching National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets. I really do like the National Treasure movies.

Just waiting on my National Treasure 3…come on Nic Cage!

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:13:06pm

re: #186 psddluva4evah

Just sitting here watching National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets. I really do like the National Treasure movies.

Just waiting on my National Treasure 3…come on Nic Cage!

Maybe he can find where the crystal skulls are now located. Unless there’s a UFO stored somewhere, I’m not sure where you go from “all the treasure stored in Mount Rushmore.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:13:06pm

21 Questions For Donald Trump

lies a lot and does a lot of business with gangsters

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:13:59pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Saw it at The Thalia.

ah now you are taking me back to my youth on the upper west side in the 60s

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:14:10pm

re: #185 De Kolta Chair

Saw many a great flick there, but my favorite night was watching something by Satyajit Ray that was so boring that me and my best friend starting loudly making wise cracks to the screen and my wife made us move to the back row of the theatre. We were the only ones there.

If Ravi Shankar did the track, it was Pathar Panchali and you should be ashamed.

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stpaulbear  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:14:59pm

Crap. For a while it looked like the storms were going to skirt the north edge of the Twin Cities but now it looks like we’re going to take a direct hit. Some funnel activity reported about an hour ago but no touchdowns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:15:01pm

re: #187 Belafon

Maybe he can find where the crystal skulls are now located. Unless there’s a UFO stored somewhere, I’m not sure where you go from “all the treasure stored in Mount Rushmore.

Down George Washington’s nose, chased by Martin Landau, of course.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:15:03pm

re: #189 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

ah now you are taking me back to my youth on the upper west side in the 60s

Lived on 77th between Columbus and Amsterdam then, later on 75th.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:16:05pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

That’s one of the greatest scenes ever filmed, IMO. When I saw it for the first time it was absolutely riveting.

<Michael Bay> How can one of the greatest scenes ever filmed have no explosions or loud deep bass sound effects? </Michael Bay>

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:17:45pm

re: #190 Decatur Deb

If Ravi Shankar did the track, it was Pathar Panchali and you should be ashamed.

What we saw that night was something Ray did in the 1970’s. Pathar Panchali on the other hand is a great great movie.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:17:52pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Lived on 77th between Columbus and Amsterdam then, later on 75th.

yah i lived in park west village at 97th btw columbus and amsterdam

decades later i took my then wife there. she says so me “okay, now we saw it, can we get outta here?”

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:19:49pm

re: #187 Belafon

Maybe he can find where the crystal skulls are now located. Unless there’s a UFO stored somewhere, I’m not sure where you go from “all the treasure stored in Mount Rushmore.

Make a movie about hidden government-related treasure, but do it more Blues Brothers-style, with the heroes racing to get the fortune to the Treasury Department in time to avoid the passage of a bill mandating the cutting of program [fill-in-the-blank] in order to balance the budget.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:20:07pm

re: #189 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

re: #193 Decatur Deb

I’ve got a question for you two, then. Was there a hotel called the Saint Paul still standing when you were around. It was at 44 W. 60th. My grand-uncle owned that hotel during the teens to 1930s. It’s gone now.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:20:37pm

re: #196 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

yah i lived in park west village at 97th btw columbus and amsterdam

decades later i took my then wife there. she says so me “okay, now we saw it, can we get outta here?”

Moved my young Kentucky bride to 75th, a couple blocks from Needle Park.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:25:26pm

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve got a question for you two, then. Was there a hotel called the Saint Paul still standing when you were around. It was at 44 W. 60th. My grand-uncle owned that hotel during the teens to 1930s. It’s gone now.

Don’t remember the hotel. Was there a warehouse with a 1/4 scale Statue of Liberty nearby? Much of that area was urban-renewed when Lincoln Center went in (late 50’s).

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:26:43pm

re: #198 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve got a question for you two, then. Was there a hotel called the Saint Paul still standing when you were around. It was at 44 W. 60th. My grand-uncle owned that hotel during the teens to 1930s. It’s gone now.

not sure, but here’s a picture of it i found on the innertubes

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retired cynic  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:26:51pm

I saw 2001 on campus when I was studying music and computers at the U of I. When HAL began to devolve, and we heard where he was made, the theatre erupted!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:26:57pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Don’t remember the hotel. Was there a warehouse with a 1/4 scale Statue of Liberty nearby? Much of that area was urban-renewed when Lincoln Center went in (late 50’s).

I have no idea. The last photo I could find of it was from the ’40s. Maybe before your time.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:27:51pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Don’t remember the hotel. Was there a warehouse with a 1/4 scale Statue of Liberty nearby? Much of that area was urban-renewed when Lincoln Center went in (late 50’s).

oh yeah the little statue of liberty i remember that!

went to mcburney school for a while which used to be located nearby

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psddluva4evah  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:28:25pm

re: #187 Belafon

Ha!…heck, it can’t be no worse than that last Indiana Jones reboot they tried…lol.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:28:57pm

re: #195 De Kolta Chair

What we saw that night was something Ray did in the 1970’s. Pathar Panchali on the other hand is a great great movie.

Allow me to expand on that:

What we saw that night was something Ray made in the 1970’s to placate his producers and distributors, who considered his work to be way too arty and uncommercial (shades of Renoir and Fellini in their later years).

Pathar Panchali on the other hand is a masterpiece.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:28:57pm

re: #201 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

not sure, but here’s a picture of it i found on the innertubes

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LOL. I may have posted that image. It’s a postcard of the hotel, and my dad had like three or four tucked away somewhere that I found.

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:31:18pm

re: #191 stpaulbear

Crap. For a while it looked like the storms were going to skirt the north edge of the Twin Cities but now it looks like we’re going to take a direct hit. Some funnel activity reported about an hour ago but no touchdowns.

About to start hitting here in Hayward. Going to be a long night I’m afraid.

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psddluva4evah  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:31:33pm

One of the first of many reasons why Obama owns a piece of my geeky little heart…when Obama was asked a question from Micheal Smerconish about the “Book of Secrets”.

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:32:58pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

A R/L and FB friend of mine has a butthurtz with me now. She posted some rightwing meme about how people who get any govt. assistance should be drug tested, not allowed to vote, etc. (you know the deal) That if you don’t like those rules, don’t take the money, you didn’t earn it.

I simply posted a page-long comment rebutting every point in the meme, and added “So, anybody that gets a Pell Grant or SSI for disability should also be drug tested and stripped from the voting rolls, since they are getting money that isn’t ‘earned’”. (and she is receiving SSI and applying for a Pell Grant).

She wanted to know “Why are you picking on me Steve”, and I told her the truth… “You are a smart person, you need to learn how to think however”

Sometimes I just have to work on my soft skills.

RBS

I just had a go at one of my numerous cousins semi-defending noted brain surgeon Kid Rock and his flying of the Confederate Naval Jack/battle flag.

I feel your pain. It’s getting harder and harder to walk away from this stuff with a “Oh, let’s just agree to disagree”. Particularly when the disagreement on their end is “The Stars and Bars aren’t racist, NUH-UH!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:35:09pm

re: #204 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Hotel Saint Paul, 44 W. 60th St

Anything look familiar?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:37:42pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Lived on 77th between Columbus and Amsterdam then, later on 75th.

I went to I.S. 44 (then) on that block, used to live on 80th, between Columbus and Amsterdam
early-mid 70’s

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:40:05pm

Well, I’m going to shut down for the night. Have some reading to catch up and a few “Z”s that need to be taken.

I’ll leave you with this….

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alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:40:55pm

re: #208 William Lewis

Yep. You’re a bit north of us, but things are looking a bit sketchy. Time to get the stubborn ol’ Malamutt in for the night.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:41:56pm

re: #211 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Anything look familiar?

I’ve seen that wino somewhere.

Seriously, though, that area went under the NY Convention Center and its supporting industrial desert by the late 50s. Note there’s still a church of St Paul the Apostle about a block down 60th.

google.com

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plansbandc  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:42:51pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:43:55pm

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

I went to I.S. 44 (then) on that block, used to live on 80th, between Columbus and Amsterdam
early-mid 70’s

I photographed a tree for a girlfriend outside the chainlink fence of your playground in 1965.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:44:36pm

re: #213 RealityBasedSteve

I’ll leave you with this….

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C-3PO tried to tell them, but did they listen?
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:45:24pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

I’ve seen that wino somewhere.

Seriously, though, that area went under the NY Convention Center and its supporting industrial desert by the late 50s. Note there’s still a church of St Paul the Apostle about a block down 60th.

google.com

I wasn’t sure when the hotel was razed, so your information helped me.

The hotel was named for the church, I’m sure. My grand-uncle managed the place around 1900. When it went into receivership, he bought it, ran it for a while, then retired at age 50 in the mid-1920s. He died in ‘35. His brother lived at the hotel as a widower until he passed in 1944.

That latter brother’s grandson and I just connected online a couple of weeks ago through a DNA surname project. Turns out we were both living in Kentucky about the same time, but didn’t know each other at all then.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:46:50pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

I’ve seen that wino somewhere.

Seriously, though, that area went under the NY Convention Center and its supporting industrial desert by the late 50s. Note there’s still a church of St Paul the Apostle about a block down 60th.

google.com

Isn’t Roosevelt Hospital there (or used to be)? Spent tons of time there in the emergency room. Staff knew my mom by name, brothers and I were there so much

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:47:34pm

The sky at my twenty has turned to an eerie pink/purple color. Alpenglow.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:49:43pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

The sky at my twenty has turned to an eerie pink/purple color. Alpenglow.

The Gay-pocalypse is beginning! //

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:50:39pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart

Isn’t Roosevelt Hospital there (or used to be)? Spent tons of time there in the emergency room. Staff knew my mom by name, brothers and I were there so much

Can’t place the hospital. I find a NY Addiction Institute mapped in on 59th, which could be the new iteration.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:53:31pm

re: #212 FormerDirtDart

I went to I.S. 44 (then) on that block, used to live on 80th, between Columbus and Amsterdam
early-mid 70’s

My uncle taught 8th grade there for years; I still live nearby. You wouldn’t recognize the neighborhood. Partly because of a monstrous Trump development on what used to be the rail yards, also Riverside Park was extended all the way down to 46th St. (Zabar’s is still where it always was; that’s where I got tonight’s dinner).

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:53:35pm

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Gay-pocalypse is beginning! //

And, just like that, the sky is back to its dull blue/grey tint. Alpenglow is so fleeting.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:56:29pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart

Isn’t Roosevelt Hospital there (or used to be)? Spent tons of time there in the emergency room. Staff knew my mom by name, brothers and I were there so much

still there (59th/Amsterdam).

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2015 • 7:57:21pm

@RonReaganLives now tweeting a link to VDARE, attacking Jeb Bush’s wife. Sound familiar?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:00:41pm

re: #224 sagehen

My uncle taught 8th grade there for years; I still live nearby. You wouldn’t recognize the neighborhood. Partly because of a monstrous Trump development on what used to be the rail yards, also Riverside Park was extended all the way down to 46th St. (Zabar’s is still where it always was; that’s where I got tonight’s dinner).

I left the city in late ‘82. off to live my life as a Dirt Dart.
Last time I spent any real time in the area was Jan. 2000.
Past through JFK in Oct. 02

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:00:46pm

Speaking to Abilene Baptist Church in Augusta on Sunday, Starnes began by saying it was good to be back in the South where it was easy to find Waffle House and Chick-fil-A restaurants, which he argued was “the official chicken of Jesus.”

“I believe that the reason that God blessed America is because we know how to smoke a pork butt,” Starnes said, turning to the recent Supreme Court ruling that effectively legalized same-sex marriage.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:02:40pm

re: #229 Kragar

“I believe that the reason that God blessed America is because we know how to smoke a pork butt.”

It’s all revealed in the Book of Franklin.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:03:20pm

I’ve unfriended a lot of people in my Facebook since the Charleston AME Church massacre. Ahistorical morons. These are people I know IRL.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:08:21pm

‘Night all. Next port of call: Baltimore in the morning!

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:08:25pm

OK, NOW I’m gone….

RBS

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Lancelot Link  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:08:37pm

re: #229 Kragar

“I believe that the reason that God blessed America is because we know how to smoke a pork butt,” Starnes said, turning to the recent Supreme Court ruling that effectively legalized same-sex marriage.

So I guess we can ignore the rest of Leviticus, too. Right, Todd?

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:13:07pm

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I bought that book when it first came out, because I wanted to know “how’d they do that?” The FX were pretty amazing, when compared to the SF shows on the telly and the big screen.

The short story “The Sentinel” which was the initial impetus for the book and the movie was, at least in the 1990s, included in a textbook anthology for high school students. I was working with the textbook publisher to create video “trailers” for the textbooks, to make students want to read them.

I got PAID to watch many Arthur C. Clarke interviews and select sections to include in the trailer. Best project I ever worked on!

There were all kinds of wonderful authors included in the books—many of whom we interviewed live—we couldn’t interview Clarke, as he was in Sri Lanka. The biggest asshole (and the only one who charged us for the interview) was Ray Bradbury.

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:18:58pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

The sleeper hit of that year. Cost less than $200,00 and made many times that. In a way it launched the 1960’s indie scene. I also remember that Pauline Kael hated hated hated it.

OMG—when we saw David and Lisa, my bff and I talked in rhyme for weeks (much to the chagrin of everyone who came in contact with us.) I have it in my Amazon Prime watchlist—saving it for a special occasion.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:22:06pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

@RonReaganLives now tweeting a link to VDARE, attacking Jeb Bush’s wife. Sound familiar?

Has it mentioned Jeb’s alleged mistress yet? Or solicited funds to find her?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:23:53pm

re: #229 Kragar

Jesus needs a cooking show on Food Network. First up, smoking a pork butt.

Oh, wait …

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:24:19pm

Off to catch the late showing of True Detective. ‘Nite, all.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:28:05pm

Talk about a paradigm shift.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:44:51pm

re: #171 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Elton John was two people—Reginald Dwight and Bernie Taupin. I don’t know how they decided Reg would get custody of the name when they quit working together.

Because Reginald is Elton John; still touring and performing concerts.

Reggie has cleaned up his act.

He shows up at the venue 2 hours before the concert, goes to his dressing room, and practices on his piano in the dressing room. 15 minutes before showtime he sits off stage until his name is announced, then performs the concert, does encores and then packs up and leaves.

Not like the old days; no muss no fuss.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:46:00pm

re: #229 Kragar

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But what about their waffle fries and cole slaw? Surely JC has a thing for cole slaw!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 8:58:30pm

re: #242 Joe Bacon

But what about their waffle fries and cole slaw? Surely JC has a thing for cole slaw!

Probably mentioned it after the “salt of the earth” comment, but it was edited out later.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:05:08pm
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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:05:45pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:07:55pm

re: #244 Lidane

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Now how many Fox News viewers are going to believe what ol’ Screwpert twittered????

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KiTA  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:08:01pm

On my way back. A bit earlier than I was thinking of given that I have nothing pressing, but I suddenly have leads on two jobs - one in IT for an unknown amount, another at a potato plant that starts at $30-35/hr.

The bus was supposed to get here at 4. Initial call to Greyhound’s India callcenrer said 6 pm, then 7 pm, then “any minute,” then 8 pm, then 10 pm, then the manager of the supervisors gave us the number for Portland, where the bus was supposed to be coming from, who pointed out at 7 pm that the bus would be leaving shortly and it would be a 4 hour trip from Portland to Stanfield. I won’t get back home until about 9-10 am at this rate.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:13:04pm

He HAS to be trolling the GOP. I refuse to believe this fuckwit is serious:

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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:14:00pm

I just heard on my local news that there was a confederate flag rally from South Jordan to the capitol in SLC. It looked pretty small and of course, they’re uninformed jackasses. One man said that they weren’t going to take his flag and it was his first amendment right.

Ugh.

No one is coming for your flag. Damn.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:14:00pm

re: #248 Lidane

He HAS to be trolling the GOP. I refuse to believe this fuckwit is serious:

Maybe El Chapo can appear on The Apprentice.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:18:14pm

re: #248 Lidane

He HAS to be trolling the GOP. I refuse to believe this fuckwit is serious:

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I’ve said all along that he IS serious. He’s seized the Goldwater playbook from 1964 and added the pure unadulterated racism George Wallace used in 1964/68/72.

Wall Street is looking on in absolute horror the same way Establishment Republicans went apoplectic in 1964. They have nobody to blame but themselves. Right now, the Koch Brothers and their pals at Heritage, Cato and AEI are spitting blood over Trump. Those fools created the teabaggers and now they’ve lost control of the GOP!

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wall Street cut their losses with the GOP and start pumping cash into the Libertarian Party.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:31:19pm

New York Magazine’s profile of Ta-Nehisi Coates is a must-read.

nymag.com

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CuriousLurker  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:39:45pm

re: #248 Lidane

He HAS to be trolling the GOP. I refuse to believe this fuckwit is serious:

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Using the name of the escaped leader of “one of the world’s most prolific, violent and powerful drug cartels” to mock our government seems like a really, really bad idea to me. The Sinaloa cartel has a long reach and they won’t just come after you, they’ll come after your family as well.

What stupid, egotistical, self-centered prick.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:41:04pm

re: #251 Joe Bacon

The people who nurtured the Tea Party thought that they could control it the same way they’ve controlled the fundies for years. They underestimated the amount of mistrust they’ve ginned up and now they’re paying the price. Trump is getting a lock on that 27% of the population that the GOP has so carefully kept at a boil for the past couple of decades. Here’s hoping that the GOP is finally hoist on its own petard.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:47:15pm

re: #211 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Anything look familiar?

oh that is really cool!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:49:47pm
Navigator’s viewpoint

Good night Lizards. This is my current laptop wallpaper image. Courtesy of my recent trip up into New England.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:50:11pm

re: #255 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

oh that is really cool!

Another researcher into family history found it. Her grandparents lived at the hotel and thought I had some more information about it. It’s a NYC property tax photo from the 1940s sometime.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:55:00pm

re: #254 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The people who nurtured the Tea Party thought that they could control it the same way they’ve controlled the fundies for years. They underestimated the amount of mistrust they’ve ginned up and now they’re paying the price. Trump is getting a lock on that 27% of the population that the GOP has so carefully kept at a boil for the past couple of decades. Here’s hoping that the GOP is finally hoist on its own petard.

Higgs, I got a feeling that we’re going to see a full blown 1912 type split in the GOP. Perot almost pulled that off in 1992, but Trump is going to break the GOP in two. I see Trump purging the establishment out of the GOP and they will cast their lot with the Libertarians. Trump will keep the teabaggers, gun nuts and Jesusbots in the GOP. You’ll see the GOP and Libertarians tear into each other. This time the split will be permanent. I would not be surprised to see the Libertarians replace the GOP as a major party and what’s left of the GOP will go the way of the British Liberal Party after 1924—they’ll just be a regional rump party with a scattering of seats in the South and Rocky Mountain states.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:58:39pm

World’s largest airplane, the Ukrainian An-225 Mriya, taking off from Minneapolis. There is only one of these but it is in regular service and is frequently seen in the US. Maximum take-off weight is 1,410,000 pounds.
MP4 Video

…and landing at Bangor Maine:
MP4 Video

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 12, 2015 • 9:59:29pm

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Another researcher into family history found it. Her grandparents lived at the hotel and thought I had some more information about it. It’s a NYC property tax photo from the 1940s sometime.

me and my friends i grew up with on the upper west side we are all obsessed with american culture from the 1910s through ww II and especially if it’s new york

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2015 • 10:24:18pm

re: #260 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Hotel Saint Paul, ca. 1910

Then you’ll like this photo.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 10:34:06pm

I love Alice Gorman! She’s a Space Archaeologist from Australia.

We were talking about an editorial that the NRA has been propagating in Australia very recently.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:11:02pm

Just sent this to all my Facebook peeps. I never ever *ever* post anything political or otherwise might cause serious debate on my Facebook. I had to make that shit very neutral years ago, too many needlessly burned bridges. I had to say something tonight, though, because, well, there’s a lot of dumb-assery out there, including people I know IRL.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:29:02pm

What say the lizards?!?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:44:06pm
During a speech to Hollywood conservative group Friends of Abe last night the GOP presidential candidate said Iraq was a needed buffer against a hostile Iran and that it was wrong for the United States to have invaded Saddam Hussein’s fiefdom.

“Instead,” Trump told the crowd, “we should have invaded Mexico.”

Demonstrators appalled by his June 16 comments that Mexican immigrants are drug-running criminals and “rapists” gathered across the street from the Brentwood venue.

Actor Nick Searcy of FX’s Justified entered the dining room in a Mexican wrestling mask and told the invite-only crowd, “I had to wear this to get past ‘em.” He was ostensibly referring to the pro-immigrant protesters outside, most of whom appeared to be Latino. The comment evoked laughter, our source said.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:44:20pm

I don’t like watermelon, but caramel is better with sea salt. sweet/salty is also the key to ham&pineapple pizza.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:54:32pm

[Deleted] Huh, some shit appears, some shit disappears. Huh.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:55:10pm

re: #266 sagehen

You are dead to me.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:55:16pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

Not sure about sea salt, but watermelon with feta cheese is an excellent salad.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2015 • 11:55:20pm

Whoops.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 12:03:03am

Well ain’t this some shit.

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 12:10:31am

re: #271 teleskiguy

And if you ask your average Tea Partier, they would say he fought for the honor of his state and would identify himself as a Liberal today.

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 12:26:38am

Guillermo del Toro wants to do an all new Star Wars trilogy based on Jabba the Hutt’s rise to power.

I approve of this 1000%

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 12:49:54am
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Usually refered to as anyways  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:03:24am

Gday,

Put watermelon cut into small balls,and wedges of red onion into a bowl, cover with plastic film wrap, and leave in the fridge for 4-6 hours, server only the watermelon balls, it makes for an adult tasting watermelon.

Australia’s contribution to the discussion of Australia and gun control.

Not suitable for work or Republicans.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:05:56am

re: #240 teleskiguy

And that is why what’s left of “news” organizations have turned towards tabloid sensationalism - to try and keep what few eyes show up to consume their product.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:10:15am

Law makes TN mark ‘Nathan Bedford Forrest Day’ Monday

As is prescribed in Tennessee state law, Monday is “Nathan Bedford Forrest Day.”

The day comes amid a local and national debate over the necessity of publicly promoted Confederate symbols. That includes calls from Gov. Bill Haslam, U.S. Rep. Jim Cooper and others to remove a large bust of Forrest, a Confederate general and early leader in the Ku Klux Klan, from the state Capitol.

Haslam officially signed the proclamation June 2, but state law leaves him with few options: Code says each year it is “the duty of the governor of this state to proclaim” July 13 as “Nathan Bedford Forrest Day.”

[…]

“Nathan Bedford Forrest’s military prowess and exploits in the Civil War have been well-documented. However, his background as a slave trader and a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan overshadows his contribution to our state’s history in the minds of many,” McCormick wrote.

[…]

Ya think?

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:11:19am

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:12:26am

Hundreds rally for Nathan Bedford Forrest statue

On Sunday, hundreds of Forrest supporters filled Health Sciences Park as a part of an annual commemoration and to rally support for keeping the statue in place after the city council voted to remove the statue and the graves of Forrest and his wife.

Today’s event included Civil War re-enactors. Many brought Confederate flags.

[…]

The Sons of Confederate Veterans joined other supporters for the 112th annual birthday celebration for General Nathan Bedford Forrest.

African-American historian Ron Sydnor was the keynote speaker at the event. He is among those who claim Forrest changes his ways years after leading the Ku Klux Klan.

“There’s a lot of history that’s been lost and it’s important that a true history is taught,” Sydnor said.

[…]

Well, ok I guess.

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:23:53am

Please overlook a more than a century’s worth of racism and terror against minorities and try to focus on the good things he did!

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:26:18am

OK, this is my last comment tonight.

More Real Estate! Hipster rock ‘n’ roll!

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:28:10am

So I looked up this guy Ron Sydnor to see what more I could find of him, and see that he works for the KY park service:

African-American managing Jefferson Davis Park

He’s a local who has a B.A. in history and is retired military.

That was from 2010. But a recent story on the same park has him still there:

Jeff Davis memorial: Confederate or history?

[…]

Park Manager Ron Sydnor — who is African-American — said the site endeavors to tell the complete story. For instance, groups have performed living history about the struggles of African-American women during the Civil War and American Indians involved in the conflict, he said. “I view this site as a bastion of education.”

Sydnor, a former Marine with a history degree from the University of California, Berkeley, said that visitors come from all over the world, often out of curiosity after seeing the obelisk from the highway. He said many arrive with one perceived notion, but leave with a new understanding, particularly about Davis’ life before the war.

“I don’t let personal feelings get involved,” he said. “I believe that if you are going to claim to be a historian, you have to look at history objectively, good bad or indifferent. And that’s what I do.”

Which I think is fine, and a productive thing to do, and hopefully someone in KY learns some lessons from the past.

But… there are those who don’t. Continuing on:

“Jefferson Davis was a great man,” said Linda Fritz, a retired teacher who lives within sight of the monument in Fairview, a rural town of about 290.

Inside her home hangs a “Gone with the Wind” poster and a nearby shelf is filled with books on the Confederacy. […]

“Studying him, I found him to be a very honest man, a very truthful man, a very sincere man, a man of high character,” Fritz said.

[…]

Fritz, for one, argues that the Civil War was over states’ rights and unfair taxation of the South. When she hears debate over moving Confederate symbols off government property “it’s like a little kid crying ‘well if I don’t get my cookie, I’m going home,’ ” she said.

[…]

Sigh…

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:31:55am

Supporters celebrate Nathan Bedford Forrest birthday

Dozens from the Mid-South celebrated the life of Nathan Bedford Forrest at Health and Sciences Park Sunday afternoon.

The event included guest speakers, a flag parade, proclamations, music, a wreath laying, and a 21-gun musket salute.

With all of the controversy going on about the removal of the Forrest memorial statue and the Confederate flag, activist over the celebration asked supporters to bring their Confederate Flags to the celebration.

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Losers for a lost cause.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:34:47am
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Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:35:34am
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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:39:06am

Lots of derpy comments at that HuffPo piece. HuffPo can really attract the armchair warriors for any lost cause.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:49:56am

Stupid with a biology degree sez:

He criticized President Barack Obama several times. “We will protect our children from Oreo cookies and popcorn, if he will protect us from radical terrorists,” he said. “Thank God General Patton and Eisenhower didn’t have this (Obama’s) attitude in World War II.”

Good grief, what a non sequitur.

Presidents are not field generals. In fact, one President, Truman, fired his commander in the field. I wonder what Jindal thinks of Truman?

Both Patton and Eisenhower served under a CinC who was high-brow, elite educated, of old money, and an intellect - FDR. And then they served under Truman who was more working class but even more at conflict with his military men.

The bottom line is that Jindal is a non-stop pander machine who spouts words like they are magical, because in his belief system words are indeed magical (e.g., in exorcisms.)

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 1:53:28am

Just in case you are not aware to whom Jindal is aiming his pander:

Bryan LaBerge of Davenport attended with his daughters, Reagan LaBerge, who is almost 15, and McKinley LaBerge, 13, both of whom are named after past U.S. presidents.

“I really like to go to these political things,” McKinley LaBerge said.

“It’s important that they understand the process,” said Bryan Laberge, who says his daughters are home-schooled. Such events, he said, are an “opportunity for them to interact with people who could potentially lead the free world.”

“I want to be informed so I can make an informed decision when I can vote,” Reagan LaBerge said.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 13, 2015 • 2:08:53am

re: #284 freetoken

In defense of Bedford:

General Nathan Bedford Forrest Versus the Ku Klux Klan

Though it must be said he in part acted as he did because Tennessee was never subjected the the harsher parts of Reconstruction, and was not placed under military authority (due to Andrew Johnson’s using his influence in his home state to convince its legislature to ratify the 14th Amendment and thus meet the Congressional criteria for avoiding Military Reconstruction). Thus it likely would have seemed to Forrest that the KKK’s atrocities weren’t accomplishing anything worthwhile.

But he’d underestimated the thrill some men get from thumbing their noses at the law killing when they want to, and also that the level of hatred of Federal authority ran far deeper in states like Mississippi and South Carolina than it did in the Volunteer State.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 2:45:00am

re: #285 Kragar

That makes no sense. 12,000 people in a room designed for 4,000 would mean they were standing on each other’s feet, packed in tighter than the Tokyo metro at rush hour.

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Archangelus  Jul 13, 2015 • 3:29:29am

re: #290 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That makes no sense.

You’re not seriously expecting sensibility from Trump, are you? :)

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:01:11am

Dead cat bounce coming up.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:12:43am

re: #140 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The worst was in Outland, where people pop like balloons.

And speaking of Sean Connery (who didn’t pop like a balloon), catch this Fox News FAIL.

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T’aint are fault. All them furriners look alike.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:22:11am

re: #258 Joe Bacon

Higgs, I got a feeling that we’re going to see a full blown 1912 type split in the GOP. Perot almost pulled that off in 1992, but Trump is going to break the GOP in two. I see Trump purging the establishment out of the GOP and they will cast their lot with the Libertarians. Trump will keep the teabaggers, gun nuts and Jesusbots in the GOP. You’ll see the GOP and Libertarians tear into each other. This time the split will be permanent. I would not be surprised to see the Libertarians replace the GOP as a major party and what’s left of the GOP will go the way of the British Liberal Party after 1924—they’ll just be a regional rump party with a scattering of seats in the South and Rocky Mountain states.

If the establishment conservatives think they’ll have more conservatives than the teahadis they’re dreaming in technicolor.

Libertarianism is just anarchy in a fancy new package.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:25:04am

re: #292 Targetpractice

I’m in. I’m running for president because Americans deserve a leader who will fight and win for them start wars, let their sons die in them and then walk away leaving things as bad or worse than before for his successor to deal with.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:42:17am

re: #275 Usually refered to as anyways

Gday,

Put watermelon cut into small balls,and wedges of red onion into a bowl, cover with plastic film wrap, and leave in the fridge for 4-6 hours, server only the watermelon balls, it makes for an adult tasting watermelon.

Australia’s contribution to the discussion of Australia and gun control.

Not suitable for work or Republicans.

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Love that routine. A classic case of comedy being the most uncontrolled form of language and therefore the most dangerous to those in power.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:47:19am

After weeks of Tweeting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!! Bryan Fischer lets all his racism hang out:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:53:30am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:55:11am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

After weeks of Tweeting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!! Bryan Fischer lets all his racism hang out:

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FFS, he’s linking to American Renaissance.

And the guy who wrote the article must have failed statistics in college since that’s not what the statistics say.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 4:56:24am

#ThisIsACoup trends on Twitter as eurozone agrees tough Greece deal.

Krugman, in the New York Times, said: “The trending hashtag #ThisIsACoup is exactly right. This goes beyond harsh into pure vindictiveness, complete destruction of national sovereignty, and no hope of relief.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:03:46am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just taking a sip of my first coffee, but how did Bry, Bry get his “statistic” that for Black-White crime, Blacks are the attackers 84.5% of the time?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:05:39am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

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I’m just taking a sip of my first coffee, but how did Bry, Bry get his “statistic” that for Black-White crime, Blacks are the attackers 84.5% of the time?

Magic, or wingnut racist math.

Yeah, that was my point, not sure how 22.89% becomes 84.5%.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:11:10am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

I’m just taking a sip of my first coffee, but how did Bry, Bry get his “statistic” that for Black-White crime, Blacks are the attackers 84.5% of the time?

This book may help you find the answer.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:12:44am

re: #275 Usually refered to as anyways

If it’s stand-up comedy, why is he sitting down?
;P

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:20:31am

re: #287 freetoken

Stupid with a biology degree sez:

Good grief, what a non sequitur.

Presidents are not field generals. In fact, one President, Truman, fired his commander in the field. I wonder what Jindal thinks of Truman?

Both Patton and Eisenhower served under a CinC who was high-brow, elite educated, of old money, and an intellect - FDR. And then they served under Truman who was more working class but even more at conflict with his military men.

The bottom line is that Jindal is a non-stop pander machine who spouts words like they are magical, because in his belief system words are indeed magical (e.g., in exorcisms.)

And between Eisenhower, much less Patton, and FDR was Marshall. (Who wanted to go command in Europe, but FDR wouldn’t let him go.) And I guess Marshall was such a stick-in-the-mud Truman had to remove him as Chief of Staff of the Army — and make him Secretary of State. (Marshall Plan and all that towards rebuilding Europe.*)

* - And compare that to the earlier Morganthau Plan which was essentially to raze Germany and spread salt upon their industrial capacity. The looming Cold War with Russia put paid to that idea real quickly.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

(And the Marshall plan was bipartisan since the GOP controlled Congress in 1948 and Truman was POTUS.)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:21:44am

re: #290 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That makes no sense. 12,000 people in a room designed for 4,000 would mean they were standing on each other’s feet, packed in tighter than the Tokyo metro at rush hour.

Remember that a person and a comb-over count as *two* people, not one.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:22:59am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

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I’m just taking a sip of my first coffee, but how did Bry, Bry get his “statistic” that for Black-White crime, Blacks are the attackers 84.5% of the time?

Well, the studies of mathematics is a science, and we all know how the champions for the Greater American Theocracy feel practically the same way about “the science” as they do about “the gay”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:23:36am

re: #302 Timothy Watson

Magic, or wingnut racist math.

Yeah, that was my point, not sure how 22.89% becomes 84.5%.

Remember that Pi = 3 in the Bible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:27:19am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:28:19am

Good morning Lizards from partially cloudy Philadelphia. No projected rain today, but back to hot and isolated thunderstorm weather tomorrow.

Short work week since I start a vacation on Wednesday. Traveling down to D.C. for a convention and then exploring things in that general area for about a week. Feline Overlords will be under the care of the neighbors.*
Cheaper than a hired sitter since I can pay them in beer. ;)

* - Who took care of them the last vacation without incident. Their Feline Overlords and mine don’t mix too well so far. Tuxedo Cat hisses and them, retreats, and then get hostile (and takes it out on Chat Noir). Chat Noir is more curious, but runs from their playful cat (who he outweighs by ~4 lbs.)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:32:11am

re: #302 Timothy Watson

Magic, or wingnut racist math.

Yeah, that was my point, not sure how 22.89% becomes 84.5%.

The sad, and amusing, part is that there are nearly 400 comments and not one of them even challenged the ‘statistic’. They are too busy wanking off over their master race being brutalized by Teh Blacks.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:32:30am

re: #308 Feline Fearless Leader

Remember that Pi = 3 in the Bible.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:34:26am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

The sad, and amusing, part is that there are nearly comments and not one of them even challenged the ‘statistic’. They are too busy wanking off over their master race being brutalized by Teh Blacks.

Pretty sad the ubermensch can’t defend themselves or do basic math.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:37:42am

re: #313 Timothy Watson

Pretty sad the ubermensch can’t defend themselves or do basic math.

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I left off the 400….”nearly 400 comments”

Moar Coffee, Stat.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:46:53am

re: #312 Timothy Watson

Pi as music.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 5:51:48am

re: #315 Feline Fearless Leader

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Pi as music.

Of course, if you could measure the current diameter of the observable universe to the nearest Planck length, and wanted to calculate its circumference to the nearest Planck length, you’d only need to know 62 decimal places of π….

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:01:03am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

That he would link to Amren with approval tells anyone all they need to know about him.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:11:14am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

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I’m just taking a sip of my first coffee, but how did Bry, Bry get his “statistic” that for Black-White crime, Blacks are the attackers 84.5% of the time?

I think he has it exactly backwards.

I’ll wait for his apology.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:20:27am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

re: #318 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well, you see it’s like this. If they’re unknown or other, they’re black. If they ain’t white, they’re black. And everybody knows that the the riff raff whites who commit crimes are part black, so there you go. No charge.

Fishy really should lock the door when he’s derping off.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:20:36am

re: #318 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I think he has it exactly backwards.

I’ll wait for his apology.

Ooops. Guess I’ll apologize.

I think he—or someone—multiplied the total number of crimes involving whites (4,091,971) by the percentage of those crimes attributed to a black attacker (13.7%). This equals 560,600 black-white crimes where the attacker was black. Then he multiplied the total number of crimes involving blacks (955,800) by the percentage of those crimes attributed to white attackers (10.4%). This equals 99,403 black-white crimes where the attacker was white. Then he added the total number of black-white crimes (560,600 + 99,403) to get a total of 660,003. Finally, he divided the total of 660,003 by the number of incidents were the attacker was black (560,600) to get 84.5 (84.9%).

So I get 84.9%, although that seems like a strange figure. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:25:02am

I notice the wingnuts who were assuring me weeks ago that Jim Webb was gonna come in and eat Hillary’s lunch, that he’d be the one the party went for because Bernie was “too crazy” and Hillary was “damaged goods,” are absolutely silent on Webb’s poll numbers being within the margin of error.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:25:09am

re: #320 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m not even sure what the terms you used even mean, much less worry about the math. Where did your info come from?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:25:39am

re: #322 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The table in #301

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:30:57am

Sounds like the Iran talks might be coming to a positive conclusion…cue the negative Nellies.

Of course, the US congress has to approve whatever deal there is so expect them to fuck it up royally.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:34:16am

re: #315 Feline Fearless Leader

Two quibbles with the posted factoid.

The 359th digit is “6” — 3 and 0 are on either side of it. numbersofpi.com

The fact that a circle has 360 degrees is arbitrary. The Babylonians used the number 60 in their math, and 360 is very close to the number of days in a year. The Greeks, Arabs and Europeans kept the degree measure, I guess for convenience.

So if they’re implying there’s something mystical about finding 360 embedded in pi, it’s not all that impressive. Besides, with an infinite number of digits, every combination of digits is bound to turn up eventually.

The music part is cool, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:34:18am

What can possibly go wrong?

In response to the multi-state military exercise organized by the federal government, a group of very concerned Texans have organized what they’re calling “Counter Jade Helm,” in which “citizens will participate in an unofficial fashion to practice counter-insurgency, organizational and intelligence gathering and reporting skills.”

Operation Jade Helm begins on July 15th, but as the media is barred from covering the exercise, citizen surveillance is the only option that people like retired firefighter Eric Johnson have to assuage their concerns about what the SEALs, Green Berets, and Air Force Special Ops are actually up to.

“If a team member sees two Humvees full of soldiers driving through town, they’re going to follow them,” Johnston told the Houston Chronicle’s Dylan Baddour. “And they’re going to radio back their ultimate location.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:35:40am

re: #324 darthstar

Sounds like the Iran talks might be coming to a positive conclusion…cue the negative Nellies.

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Of course, the US congress has to approve whatever deal there is so expect them to fuck it up royally.

The beauty of the agreement made to allow Congress a vote is that the clock starts ticking the moment the President presents the deal to them, which means they can’t just stall for time in the hopes of scaring Democrats up for reelection into supporting a bill to reject the deal. And he doesn’t need to get Congressional approval so much as he needs to keep enough Democrats on his side to prevent a bill rejecting the deal from passing.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:38:31am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Dead cat bounce coming up.

Oh, so he’ll fight for LGBT Americans? American Muslims? African Americans?

/

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:38:49am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Comes the next big-ass hurricane those very same Texans will be sniveling if the military isn’t on scene the next day handing out food and ice.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:40:17am

re: #299 Timothy Watson

FFS, he’s linking to American Renaissance.

And the guy who wrote the article must have failed statistics in college since that’s not what the statistics say.

As I’m at work I won’t click on a link to AR. Anybody see the math they used?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:40:22am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can see some people getting arrested for doing shit like that. At the very least, some MPs may stop them and give them warnings.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:43:53am

re: #327 Targetpractice

The beauty of the agreement made to allow Congress a vote is that the clock starts ticking the moment the President presents the deal to them, which means they can’t just stall for time in the hopes of scaring Democrats up for reelection into supporting a bill to reject the deal. And he doesn’t need to get Congressional approval so much as he needs to keep enough Democrats on his side to prevent a bill rejecting the deal from passing.

That’s right…I forgot about that. I suspect a lot of Republicans will demonstrate a similar ignorance in the short term. And 15 Republicans will campaign on overturning the deal “on DAY ONE!”

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:45:15am

re: #331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I can see some people getting arrested for doing shit like that. At the very least, some MPs may stop them and give them warnings.

Just drop a spike strip on them, disarm them at gunpoint, and make them walk home in their underwear.

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:45:20am

Morning!

Backwoods_Sleuth…I see your area is under another severe storm/tornado watch along with the bottom southwest section of Ohio again. You’ve had it tough down there in Kentucky this year.

Are we ever going to dry out this summer and get out of this rain storm a day pattern?

Yesterday the North East and East areas of the Columbus Metro area, Gahana, Reynoldsburg and Pickerington all got hammered with heavy rain and flash flooding. Lots of stranded cars and flooded basements. My inner city section of the city had steady rain but nothing like the east side.

I have some painting projects to do outside this summer, but I don’t want to get set up and started if it rains every 8-12 hours.

This crap sucks! But it sure is green everywhere!

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steve_davis  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:46:06am

re: #11 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I like “Somebody asks why New Horizons isn’t going into orbit”. You know somebody will!

Assuming standard storeable liquid propellants: New Horizons masses 478 kg. To kill its velocity ~472 of that would have to be propellant.

I actually wondered that myself in a different website. I’d thought the point of the mission was to try to put a craft in orbit around Pluto. Turns out there just wasn’t room for any additional braking fuel at all. They basically used every drop they had just to offer the fly-by. Then someone asked, “Why didn’t they just design in more fuel?” To which the answer apparently is, “they designed using every single drop of fuel they could feasibly get into the system.”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:46:41am

re: #331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I can see some people getting arrested for doing shit like that. At the very least, some MPs may stop them and give them warnings.

If the Army has a sense of humor they will set up a quick fenced compound with a “FEMA Camp” sign on it and lead the Humvee followers into it. And film the freakout at the gate.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:46:51am

re: #330 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As I’m at work I won’t click on a link to AR. Anybody see the math they used?

This table can be used for a number of interesting calculations. First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 486,945 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.5 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.

Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.

The author’s “approach” still doesn’t make sense. The table clearly shows that Black committed 22.4% of total crime. When Whites were the victim, Blacks were the offender 13.7% of the time. There really isn’t any other way to spin that. When Blacks were the victim, Whites were the offender 10.4% of the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:47:05am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

What can possibly go wrong?

“If a team member sees two Humvees full of soldiers driving through town, they’re going to follow them,” Johnston told the Houston Chronicle’s Dylan Baddour. “And they’re going to radio back their ultimate location.”

And to make it more realistic, they should darken their skin, wear headcloths and carry a Koran…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:47:17am

re: #333 darthstar

Just drop a spike strip on them, disarm them at gunpoint, and make them walk home in their underwear.

I’d settle for “drop and give me 20!”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:48:16am

re: #335 steve_davis

I actually wondered that myself in a different website. I’d thought the point of the mission was to try to put a craft in orbit around Pluto. Turns out there just wasn’t room for any additional braking fuel at all. They basically used every drop they had just to offer the fly-by. Then someone asked, “Why didn’t they just design in more fuel?” To which the answer apparently is, “they designed using every single drop of fuel they could feasibly get into the system.”

Logistics is hard for a lot of people it seems. Always looking at the head and never thinking of the tail that got (or keeps) it where it got to.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:49:58am

re: #333 darthstar

Just drop a spike strip on them, disarm them at gunpoint, and make them walk home in their underwear.

Actually, having some freaks follow your military vehicle would be a FIDO situation.

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:51:55am

The clown bus grows by one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:52:01am

re: #341 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Actually, having some freaks follow your military vehicle would be a FIDO situation.

FIDO??

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:04am

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

FIDO??

Fuck It: Drive On

Vietnam era military expression.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:08am

re: #335 steve_davis

I actually wondered that myself in a different website. I’d thought the point of the mission was to try to put a craft in orbit around Pluto. Turns out there just wasn’t room for any additional braking fuel at all. They basically used every drop they had just to offer the fly-by. Then someone asked, “Why didn’t they just design in more fuel?” To which the answer apparently is, “they designed using every single drop of fuel they could feasibly get into the system.”

The budget wouldn’t allow it. Also, the mission includes visiting the Kuiper Belt, from which Pluto and its moons may have come. We’ve never sent a probe there before.

If they had designed an orbital mission, New Horizons could not have been an “express train,” getting to Pluto within a decade. It would have taken a more leisurely trip, to avoid using so much fuel to slow it down to orbital velocity.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:53:25am

re: #339 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’d settle for “drop and give me 20!”

Those weekend warriors in all their Walmart camo can’t do twenty push ups.

I’m guessing this is the Kung Fu technique of crossing a Jade Helm mine field.

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:54:49am

I expect three things to happen when the Iran deal makes it way to Congress:

1. I expect Republicans to begin immediately portraying any vote except one to reject the deal as “a vote for a nuclear Iran,” with their army of flying media monkeys quickly following suit.

2. I expect Republicans to overplay their already pitifully weak hand by trying to add riders to the bill calling for everything from further sanctions on Iran to possible military action, figuring that doing so will win the more public support because America will suddenly contract war fever again.

3. And I expect the media to pressure Democrats to get on the “War or Bust” bandwagon, with insinuations that the Clintons are getting money either directly from Iran or through third parties in order to support Iran being allowed to get nukes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:55:22am

re: #346 darthstar

Those weekend warriors in all their Walmart camo can’t do twenty push ups.

I’m guessing this is the Kung Fu technique of crossing a Jade Helm mine field.

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Must be the Wingnut form. Doesn’t look like any kung fu stance I’ve ever seen.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:55:29am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

After weeks of Tweeting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!! Bryan Fischer lets all his racism hang out:

I guess Bryan is trying to make a last stand in defense of the Confederate battle flag, which was a Democrat Party flag and Dems are the real racists.
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:57:00am

re: #346 darthstar

Those weekend warriors in all their Walmart camo can’t do twenty push ups.

I’m guessing this is the Kung Fu technique of crossing a Jade Helm mine field.

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they’re doing room clearing tape drills

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:57:00am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love the “radio back” like they’re some sort of coast patrol in the Solomon Islands. Wouldn’t you just get on the cell phone? Well, I guess that’s technically a radio.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:57:38am

re: #349 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I guess Bryan is trying to make a last stand in defense of the Confederate battle flag, which was a Democrat Party flag and Dems are the real racists.
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Wonkette ass-kicks the whole HURR HURR DEMNS IS TEH KKK RACISTS!!!!! talking point.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 6:59:48am

BTW, is KidBaby Rock still huffing and puffing about his Confederate FlagBlanky

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:00:05am

re: #347 Targetpractice

I expect many pols in Congress to predict the instant nuclear destruction of Israel should the treaty pass. Conservatives are only pretending to hate this treaty. The actually love it because it’s going to be the greatest opportunity for grandstanding since 9/11.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:00:40am

re: #351 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I love the “radio back” like they’re some sort of coast patrol in the Solomon Islands. Wouldn’t you just get on the cell phone? Well, I guess that’s technically a radio.

But the NSA and Army will be controlling and monitoring the cell towers. So you need to go over to an alternate communications method. (Not that the Army doesn’t already have abilities in that area either.)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:03:24am

re: #353 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

BTW, is KidBaby Rock still huffing and puffing about his Confederate FlagBlanky

Rob Ritchie (aka ‘Kid Rock’) a 44 year old “musician’ from a White, middle class suburb of Detroit….let that sink in…..is having a hissy fit about the traitor’s flag. Carry on, Robert.

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:03:37am

I’m so very glad that people are out there defending that middle class folks face capital gains, ignoring that the percentage of capital gains that they take/receive is a fraction of the taxes that the 1% avoid.

Because of the preferential treatment on capital gains, millionaires and billionaires get to hold on to ever more money, while shifting tax burdens on to every one else.

(source).

So, just because you got a capital gain of a couple hundred bucks and made $50,000 a year doesn’t mean that you should be happy about the 25% capital gain rate on long term holdings; you should be pissed that a billionaire has gotten most of their income sheltered behind the same rate, forcing you to pay higher rates.

And I can’t wait to hear about double taxation on that income too. Or home purchases (much of which is already sheltered under separate rules).

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:03:41am

re: #351 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I love the “radio back” like they’re some sort of coast patrol in the Solomon Islands. Wouldn’t you just get on the cell phone? Well, I guess that’s technically a radio.

They’re like Cheech and Chong in camo.

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:03:42am

re: #354 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I expect many pols in Congress to predict the instant nuclear destruction of Israel should the treaty pass. Conservatives are only pretending to hate this treaty. The actually love it because it’s going to be the greatest opportunity for grandstanding since 9/11.

Oh yeah, I just realized I forgot a fourth item:

4. The GOP field will fight over who will be the first to declare that they flatly reject the deal and will do away with it on Day One, but will refuse to say what they’d do to keep Iran from developing nukes, except to assert they’re not saying we going to war with Iran…even as them hum “Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.”

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:04:30am

re: #341 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Though it could quickly turn into a FUBAR because some militia type following the military convoy can’t keep their ammo in check.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:05:35am

re: #348 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Must be the Wingnut form. Doesn’t look like any kung fu stance I’ve ever seen.

Crouching Wingnut, Flying Racist Flag

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:07:25am

re: #346 darthstar

The guy second from the right is wearing Levi’s and the other chodes are wearing Vietnam era camo. Wow. Terrifying milita.

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No Depression  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:08:07am

re: #346 darthstar

I reverse searched that picture and found it in this Reuters story about the Light Foot Militia from Idaho:

Link

Guess when they were formed.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:08:37am

In other news, a giant penis is running around Norway.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:08:48am

re: #363 No Depression

I reverse searched that picture and found it in this Reuters story about the Light Foot Militia from Idaho:

Link

Guess when they were formed.

2009

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:09:37am

re: #325 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So if they’re implying there’s something mystical about finding 360 embedded in pi, it’s not all that impressive. Besides, with an infinite number of digits, every combination of digits is bound to turn up eventually.

Yes, pretty clearly.

Not only that, but the numbers presented are in base 10. Of course pi can be written in any number base, and it will look different than when written in base 10.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:10:14am

re: #363 No Depression

I reverse searched that picture and found it in this Reuters story about the Light Foot Militia from Idaho:

Link

Guess when they were formed.

And if you need a second guess then you’re not paying attention.

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Snarknado!  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:10:45am

re: #364 darthstar

In other news, a giant penis is running around Norway.

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“What do you do at work, daddy?”

Good morning, lizards.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:11:55am

re: #363 No Depression

I reverse searched that picture and found it in this Reuters story about the Light Foot Militia from Idaho:

Link

Guess when they were formed.

2009? I didn’t know where it was from…I just googled for idiots and it fit my needs.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:15:24am

re: #366 freetoken

Yes, pretty clearly.

Not only that, but the numbers presented are in base 10. Of course pi can be written in any number base, and it will look different than when written in base 10.

in hex 3.243F6A8885A308D31319… from Wikipedia

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:16:02am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

The guy second from the right is wearing Levi’s and the other chodes are wearing Vietnam era camo. Wow. Terrifying milita.

They’re wearing BDUs in M85 woodland camouflage, originally issued to the US military in the early ’80s
You can joke all you want, but they are using tried and true training techniques.
After almost fourteen years of war, one thing the US populace is not short of is highly developed military trainers

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:18:05am

So, has the putz from Wisconsin made it official yet that he is running for President on Koch money? I haven’t checked out any news yet today. I’m saving my morning for pleasant thoughts. I can get pissed off over what he will say later.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:23:06am

Spent a half hour on the elliptical at the gym yesterday and was treated to a half hour of CNN coverage of Donald Trump.

Sigh.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:23:35am

re: #372 ObserverArt

He’s in, to fight for Americans and fight…something.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:25:25am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart

Yes, I will continue to point and laugh at the out-of-shape , old White douches pretending to be a soldiers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:25:31am

re: #374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He’s in, to fight for Americans and fight…something.

YOONYUNZ!!!!!11

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:25:43am

re: #374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He’s in, to fight for Americans and fight…something.

Maybe he’ll advocate bringing back the Legion of Decency.

en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:25:52am

Also, expect a Republican, either Tehran Tom or Havana Ted, to hit upon the idea that even if Congress agreed months ago to allowing the Iran deal to stand barring a successful vote against it, it won’t really count and if the President does push forward with it then he’ll violating the Constitution.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:26:40am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Yes, I will continue to point and laugh at the out-of-shape , old White douches pretending to be a soldiers.

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Moron Babe?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:26:49am

re: #373 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Spent a half hour on the elliptical at the gym yesterday and was treated to a half hour of CNN coverage of Donald Trump.

Sigh.

If you really want a workout, turn the elliptical away from the TV and imagine you’re trying to get away from CNN and Trump.

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Tigger2  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:28:59am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

The guy second from the right is wearing Levi’s and the other chodes are wearing Vietnam era camo. Wow. Terrifying milita.

Not a one of them play army guys I would worry about in the woods. lol

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:29:12am

Zombie Reagan couldn’t win with this crowd. And he’s Reagan. That’s how extreme the right wing and self identified GOPers have become.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:29:21am

Hillary jabs at Jeb! without using big words.

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guachi  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:29:36am

re: #320 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ooops. Guess I’ll apologize.

I think he—or someone—multiplied the total number of crimes involving whites (4,091,971) by the percentage of those crimes attributed to a black attacker (13.7%). This equals 560,600 black-white crimes where the attacker was black. Then he multiplied the total number of crimes involving blacks (955,800) by the percentage of those crimes attributed to white attackers (10.4%). This equals 99,403 black-white crimes where the attacker was white. Then he added the total number of black-white crimes (560,600 + 99,403) to get a total of 660,003. Finally, he divided the total of 660,003 by the number of incidents were the attacker was black (560,600) to get 84.5 (84.9%).

So I get 84.9%, although that seems like a strange figure. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.

This is exactly what I get because it’s exactly what I did. It certainly appears true that, using these figures, 84.9% of white/black crime is where the black is the attacker.

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:30:06am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart

They’re wearing BDUs in M85 woodland camouflage, originally issued to the US military in the early ’80s
You can joke all you want, but they are using tried and true training techniques.
After almost fourteen years of war, one thing the US populace is not short of is highly developed military trainers

Following along a bit with what some of you are saying about the Texans monitoring Jade Helm I was wondering if the military can work them into some of the practice routines. The Jade Helm guys could use the Texans as ‘bad guys’ that are trying to spy the troop movements and you can follow along on the ‘bad guys’ as they are following you. Use them to see if you can create false movements and get the bad guy ‘spies’ following the wrong guys while you surprise them from behind, etc.

I know I’m dreaming, but it would be fun to see how good our military might be at making fools out of the Texan monitors.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:30:45am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

♫ Look for - the mo-ron label ♫

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Tigger2  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:32:14am

re: #382 lawhawk

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Zombie Reagan couldn’t win with this crowd. And he’s Reagan. That’s how extreme the right wing and self identified GOPers have become.

I don’t consider that becoming more Conservative I consider that becoming more crazy.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:34:01am

re: #382 lawhawk

Scott Walker says he wants to “make America great again”. Thus, he believes American isn’t great. If Hillary said that, the media would be foaming from all orifices.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:34:18am
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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:34:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:35:04am

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Scott Walker says he wants to “make America great again”. Thus, he believes American isn’t great. If Hillary said that, the media would be foaming from all orifices.

I thought MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!! is Trump’s slogan, so is he suing Scott Walker?

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:35:40am

Hey, stop with the fucking math already, people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:37:00am

Ben, trying very hard to be Chucky

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:37:14am

re: #382 lawhawk

From your link:

The question now is whether the Republican Party, which nominated unsuccessful moderate candidates in 2008 and 2012, will decide that 2016 is the year for a conservative.

Um… 2008 the GOP had Sarah Palin as the VP. And while McCain might be considered a “moderate” compared to someone like Cruz, he is not considered a “moderate” on a national scale.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:37:52am

re: #385 ObserverArt

Following along a bit with what some of you are saying about the Texans monitoring Jade Helm I was wondering if the military can work them into some of the practice routines. The Jade Helm guys could use the Texans as ‘bad guys’ that are trying to spy the troop movements and you can follow along on the ‘bad guys’ as they are following you. Use them to see if you can create false movements and get the bad guy ‘spies’ following the wrong guys while you surprise them from behind, etc.

I know I’m dreaming, but it would be fun to see how good our military might be at making fools out of the Texan monitors.

One of the worst possible things the US military could do is be found to be observing/tracking any militia groups, either covertly or overtly.
It would feed the conspiracy

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:38:30am

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Scott Walker says he wants to “make America great again”. Thus, he believes American isn’t great. If Hillary said that, the media would be foaming from all orifices.

These are the same morons who regularly give the President shit because he’s not talking about how “great” America is.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:38:53am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

If Bernie Sanders transitioned to woman, this race would get very interesting very quickly.

And if Ben Shapiro ever wrote anything sensible half of us would faint dead away.

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b.d.  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:39:17am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Yes, I will continue to point and laugh at the out-of-shape , old White douches pretending to be a soldiers.

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The Moron Label

I actually have a good customer who has that Moron Label stupid decal thing on his truck

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:39:43am

re: #394 freetoken

From your link:

Um… 2008 the GOP had Sarah Palin as the VP. And while McCain might be considered a “moderate” compared to someone like Cruz, he is not considered a “moderate” on a national scale.

Makes sense if you read “moderate” as “sane.” Whatever McCain’s positions, the man didn’t froth at the mouth.

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:40:13am

re: #397 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And if Ben Shapiro ever wrote anything sensible half of us would faint dead away.

He did for a short while after the Charleston shooting. But that only lasted until he got his marching orders.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:41:09am

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Scott Walker says he wants to “make America great again”. Thus, he believes American isn’t great. If Hillary said that, the media would be foaming from all orifices.

That’s only because Obama has destroyed America and America doesn’t exist anymore and is not a Republic anymore and got rid of the Constitution and Freedom.

////

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:41:23am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

After weeks of Tweeting HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!! Bryan Fischer lets all his racism hang out:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:41:27am

re: #393 The Vicious Babushka

Ben, trying very hard to be Chucky

Needs to beg for money.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:41:50am

re: #398 b.d.

The Moron Label

I actually have a good customer who has that Moron Label stupid decal thing on his truck

I actually appreciate it when people display their ignorance by displaying the moron label, confederate rag, don’t make fun of me flag, or infowars. They are basically letting society know they are assholes who should be avoided at all costs.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:43:12am

re: #399 Targetpractice

Makes sense if you read “moderate” as “sane.” Whatever McCain’s positions, the man didn’t froth at the mouth.

“Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” and the word-salad half-governor are sane?

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:44:09am

Talk about Overton windows…

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:44:40am

re: #398 b.d.

The Moron Label

I actually have a good customer who has that Moron Label stupid decal thing on his truck

See, you are baking him a gay cake.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:44:42am

re: #394 freetoken

The question now is whether the Republican Party, which nominated unsuccessful moderate candidates in 2008 and 2012, will decide that 2016 is the year for a conservative.

The GOP also nominated moderate candidates in 1992 and 1996 and look where that got them. ///

Seriously, Romney in every way declared himself a true blue conservative, so who was the electorate supposed to believe was the real conservative in 2012?

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:46:14am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart

One of the worst possible things the US military could do is be found to be observing/tracking any militia groups, either covertly or overtly.
It would feed the conspiracy

At this point is there any more conspiracy feeding that can be done? Seems they are going to create conspiracies no matter what does or does not happen.

And, in a way, aren’t the Texas monitors going to be getting in the middle of this anyway?

This is all so bizarre. I would think our military is going to have to keep an eye on these bozos just so no one gets hurt. Could this get messy?

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:46:22am

re: #405 freetoken

“Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” and the word-salad half-governor are sane?

Princess Dumbass of the North Woods was a Faustian deal for his campaign, out of the belief that she’d give him an edge by bringing around the hardcore conservative crowd. Problem was she became an albatross instead.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:47:35am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Yes, I will continue to point and laugh at the out-of-shape , old White douches pretending to be a soldiers.

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Where does this “Μολων λαβε” crap come from? Is it 300? I knew how ridiculously awful that would be, so I never watched it. According to my Liddel-Scott, Μολων is strictly Homeric. Are the writers (or the wingnuts) aware that the Spartans were Dorians? (And it looks like it should be λαβη, anyway).

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:49:04am

re: #394 freetoken

From your link:

Um… 2008 the GOP had Sarah Palin as the VP. And while McCain might be considered a “moderate” compared to someone like Cruz, he is not considered a “moderate” on a national scale.

Defining conservatism downwards, no true conservatism, etc.

Instead of wondering why conservatives haven’t won because they are too extreme, the extreme right wing decides that the reason is that they weren’t conservative enough.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:49:25am

Santorum Jumps to Right of Cruz, Walker on Same-Sex Marriage Constitutional Amendment

Before we dive into the meat of that, I didn’t think there could be more room on the “right” of Cruz short of executing gays like God sez so in his magical book. Anyway…

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Monday he wants a constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman in all 50 states, less than three weeks after the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage nationwide.

“I believe we need a national standard for marriage. I don’t think we can have a standard from one state to another on what marriage is,” Santorum told reporters at a breakfast in Washington hosted by the Christian Science Monitor, adding that he wants “to define marriage the way it was defined for 4,000 years of human history.

[…]

These people are crazy.

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:50:36am

The way it was defined in history for 4,000 years? Which version would that be?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:51:10am

Off to catch the late showing of True Detective. ‘Nite, all.re: #405 freetoken

“Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” and the word-salad half-governor are sane?

Let’s say “saner than TPGOP mid-range”.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:51:15am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

What can possibly go wrong?

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I must admit, if I was any sort of Special Forces in Jade Helm, I’d amuse myself by sneaking up behind the observers, leaning over and whispering “Whatcha lookin at?”

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:51:28am

re: #413 freetoken

4000? I thought we were 6000 years old.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:51:43am

re: #413 freetoken

Typically Republican: states’ rights are paramount except when the states enact something we don’t like.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:52:28am

re: #417 darthstar

4000? I thought we were 6000 years old.

Orgies for the first 2,000 years, then God dropped the hammer.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:52:32am

re: #408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The GOP also nominated moderate candidates in 1992 and 1996 and look where that got them. ///

Seriously, Romney in every way declared himself a true blue conservative, so who was the electorate supposed to believe was the real conservative in 2012?

We all know how well 1964 went when they had a truuuuuuuuuuuue conservative

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:52:46am

Interesting article in the NYT about changes in the labor market, economic anxiety, and the middle class:

As it happens, though, Uber is not so much a labor-market innovation as the culmination of a generation-long trend. Even before the founding of the company in 2009, the United States economy was rapidly becoming an Uber economy writ large, with tens of millions of Americans involved in some form of freelancing, contracting, temping or outsourcing.

(snip)

Last year, 23 percent of Americans told Gallup they worried that their working hours would be cut back, up from percentages in the low to midteens in the years leading up to the recession. Twenty-four percent said they worried that their wages would be reduced, up from the mid- to high teens before the recession.

Even if the economy continues to improve, the lingering malaise will almost certainly be the central issue in next year’s presidential election.

Hillary will be making a speech on economic policy and her plans for addressing these and other middle class income concerns.

But it begs the question as to what if anything can be done to alter these developments (beyond strengthening the government safety net), which as the article points out, have been ongoing for several decades.

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Tigger2  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:53:14am

re: #414 lawhawk

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The way it was defined in history for 4,000 years? Which version would that be?

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I have an idea how about they just ban marriage all together, it would sure drive the divorce rate down.//

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:53:28am

Oh, good…Fox is defending Trump

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:53:37am

re: #418 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Typically Republican: states’ rights are paramount except when the states enact something we don’t like.

“States rights!!! Unless that state wants gay marriage…or sanctuary cities…or to ban fracking…etc, etc.”

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:54:31am

re: #344 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oooo. Must remember that one. Right up there with remf.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:54:50am

re: #423 darthstar

But Christie was on Faux earlier claiming no one in the real world cared about what Trump says.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:55:31am

re: #416 Romantic Heretic

I must admit, if I was any sort of Special Forces in Jade Helm, I’d amuse myself by sneaking up behind the observers, leaning over and whispering “Whatcha lookin at?”

Give the troops those little laser pointers and have them shine it on the watchers. They’ll think that snipers are aiming at them!

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:56:01am

Speaking of Faux News, did you know that Doocy is a literature critic?

Fox & Friends rips ‘Mockingbird’ sequel as ‘revisionist fiction’ for making white hero into a racist

I suspect that Doocy doesn’t know what “fiction” means.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:57:07am

re: #413 freetoken

Santorum Jumps to Right of Cruz, Walker on Same-Sex Marriage Constitutional Amendment

Before we dive into the meat of that, I didn’t think there could be more room on the “right” of Cruz short of executing gays like God sez so in his magical book. Anyway…

These people are crazy.

And fact free as well!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:57:10am

re: #355 Feline Fearless Leader

But the NSA and Army will be controlling and monitoring the cell towers. So you need to go over to an alternate communications method. (Not that the Army doesn’t already have abilities in that area either.)

I’d tell the wingnuts to make sure to encrypt all communications but they probably wouldn’t understand the concept.

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darthstar  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:57:30am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:58:16am

re: #421 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But it begs the question as to what if anything can be done to alter these developments (beyond strengthening the government safety net), which as the article points out, have been ongoing for several decades.

There is, in my opinion, plenty that could be done. It’s just that the party that holds Congress has no interest in doing it. That party is still insisting that taxes must be lower in order to unleash the full majesty of the jerb creators.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2015 • 7:59:41am

re: #409 ObserverArt

At this point is there any more conspiracy feeding that can be done? Seems they are going to create conspiracies no matter what does or does not happen.

And, in a way, aren’t the Texas monitors going to be getting in the middle of this anyway?

This is all so bizarre. I would think our military is going to have to keep an eye on these bozos just so no one gets hurt. Could this get messy?

Just because Gov. Abbott stated that the Texas State Guard was going to “monitor” the exercise doesn’t mean they are going to have any real access.
The TXSG has no connection with the US military. They are essentially a Texas state reserve organization that provides support to state and local government organizations and the state National Guard when operating under Texas state jurisdiction

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:00:41am

re: #413 freetoken

Santorum Jumps to Right of Cruz, Walker on Same-Sex Marriage Constitutional Amendment

Before we dive into the meat of that, I didn’t think there could be more room on the “right” of Cruz short of executing gays like God sez so in his magical book. Anyway…

These people are crazy.

Freedom. Liberty. Individual rights. State’s rights.

//

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:02:00am

re: #428 freetoken

Speaking of Faux News, did you know that Doocy is a literature critic?

Fox & Friends rips ‘Mockingbird’ sequel as ‘revisionist fiction’ for making white hero into a racist

I suspect that Doocy doesn’t know what “fiction” means.

And the fact is we know from history that Atticus Finch was not racist. That’s just the facts.

//

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:02:24am

re: #430 Romantic Heretic

I’d tell the wingnuts to make sure to encrypt all communications but they probably wouldn’t understand the concept.

Convince them that the only really secure way to communicate is via foot messenger. Enjoy the hilarity as they find that none of them can make two miles on foot.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:05:07am

re: #428 freetoken

Speaking of Faux News, did you know that Doocy is a literature critic?

Fox & Friends rips ‘Mockingbird’ sequel as ‘revisionist fiction’ for making white hero into a racist

I suspect that Doocy doesn’t know what “fiction” means.

That ship sailed when Dan Quayle was quoting The Hunt for Red October as some kind of treatise on Soviet capabilities during the 1988 campaign. Fact, fiction—wassa diff?

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Snarknado!  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:05:20am

re: #411 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Where does this “Μολων λαβε” crap come from? Is it 300? I knew how ridiculously awful that would be, so I never watched it. According to my Liddel-Scott, Μολων is strictly Homeric. Are the writers (or the wingnuts) aware that the Spartans were Dorians? (And it looks like it should be λαβη, anyway).

In Classical, the omega would be an omicron, and the eta in labe is an epsilon (wikipedia has it wrong). Homer didn’t know from the Persians, but Herodotus did. (On my phone, no Greek alphabet.)

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:08:09am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart

One of the worst possible things the US military could do is be found to be observing/tracking any militia groups, either covertly or overtly.
It would feed the conspiracy

Can’t be helped. Every time a plane flies over and leaves a contrail it feeds the conspiracy. A rainbow feeds the conspiracy. The fat content of their hamburgers feeds the conspiracy.

Conspiracy nuts are addicted to their fear, anger and hatred. Every event in the world gives them that hit.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:08:23am

re: #437 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That ship sailed when Dan Quayle was quoting The Hunt for Red October as some kind of treatise on Soviet capabilities during the 1988 campaign. Fact, fiction—wassa diff?

Ah, the good old days. IIRC, Quayle also used that fact that some TV show had an unwed mother as a main character as an example of America’s declining morals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:09:56am

re: #440 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ah, the good old days. IIRC, Quayle also used that fact that some TV show had an unwed mother as a main character as an example of America’s declining morals.

Murphy Brown

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:12:00am

re: #426 freetoken

But Christie was on Faux earlier claiming no one in the real world cared about what Trump says.

By which Christie means, “I’m available for the VP slot, Donald. Pick me! Pick me!”

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:12:02am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

Murphy Brown

Yeah, a show that today is about as culturally significant as Billy Beer.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:12:07am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

Murphy Brown

Thank you. I worked nights most of my life and I don’t have the patience to sit through most shows so large swaths of American pop culture are opaque to me.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:12:18am

This is a look at a Freep cache. It discusses how and when to choose your liberal neighbours for killing. They’re getting closer over there.

webcache.googleusercontent.com

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:12:53am

re: #440 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Speaking of declining morals, Dan is in potentially hot water for participating in meetings that may have violated Irish law. He was meeting with Irish officials in his capacity as head of foreign investment at Cerberus, but those meetings require notice - and the notice wasn’t given.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:14:04am

re: #434 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Freedom. Liberty. Individual rights. State’s rights.

//

By which the wingnuts mean, “Power. Power. My power. My state’s power.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:15:48am

re: #433 FormerDirtDart

Just because Gov. Abbott stated that the Texas State Guard was going to “monitor” the exercise doesn’t mean they are going to have any real access.
The TXSG has no connection with the US military. They are essentially a Texas state reserve organization that provides support to state and local government organizations and the state National Guard when operating under Texas state jurisdiction

Yeah. We discussed who they were back when Abbott said he would be using them.

I guess I see this as a strange time in America and some of the crazier types are real close to being out of control. The Bundy Ranch dustup showed that. What’s to prevent other militia groups all coming to Texas to help monitor ‘things’ and getting a little too full of themselves.

If they are going to follow troops around it is a fine line for some of these jackasses to want to stop the troops and demand to know who they are where they are from and what their orders are, etc.

I hope I am way wrong and all goes well. But nothing would surprise me if somehow something gets out of hand and then it becomes a self fulfilling mess. I guess we are going to know in short order.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:18:37am

re: #443 Targetpractice

Yeah, a show that today is about as culturally significant as Billy Beer.

Let us not forget that Quayle was VP to George H.W. Bush, the president who once declared that his party’s goal was to make the American family more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons. The Simpsons responded shortly thereafter by having Bart say, “We’re like the Waltons: we’re praying for an end to the depression too.”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:21:28am

re: #446 lawhawk

Speaking of declining morals, Dan is in potentially hot water for participating in meetings that may have violated Irish law. He was meeting with Irish officials in his capacity as head of foreign investment at Cerberus, but those meetings require notice - and the notice wasn’t given.

Wait, someone named an equity firm after Cerberus? Was it supposed to be a joke?

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blueraven  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:25:00am

re: #445 Decatur Deb

This is a look at a Freep cache. It discusses how and when to choose your liberal neighbours for killing. They’re getting closer over there.

webcache.googleusercontent.com

Oh my

To: Chance Hart
I hope that we will be able to restore the rule of law (with the Bill of Rights as part of the “supreme law of the land” and taking absolute precedence over invented rights and leftist demands for accommodation) without a civil war. Still, decent people need to consider and prepare for the alternative.

1. If the left starts their war, I expect the absence of borders/separation to lead to a situation like Bosnia. As with that country, enclaves neighborhoods, towns, counties, and states can alternate on which faction dominates. That is a formula for ugly. I hope America’s enemies will take that into account as they decide whether to force a civil war.

2. Many of us wear uniforms, whether or not they are issued. Many Obama-voters wear their pants halfway down, dress like Pajama Boy, or otherwise communicate their treason. Most decent people dress like they have jobs and work hard. The absence of uniforms will not interfere with forming reasonable suspicions on each person’s leanings.

3. What to do about neighbors is a tough question. I have a neighborhood voter registration map that shows Obamavoters and decent people. It’s nice to know which people I’m likely to deal with are parasites.

4. The military will be split but mostly patriotic. That will be a source of chaos or order, possibly exploited by liberal petty tyrants who will try to deceive the military. I will not trust emerging “conservative” leaders.

5. All criminals are criminals and are the enemy of decent people. It’s our responsibility to keep our neighborhoods safe.

17 posted on 7/13/2015, 9:22:24 AM by Pollster1 (“Shall not be infringed” is unambiguous.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:29:02am

re: #451 blueraven

That’s a bit rich for Freep, and the mods will pull it soon. The comment count has doubled since the cache.

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b_sharp  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:32:02am

re: #451 blueraven

Oh my

5. All criminals are criminals and are the enemy of decent people. It’s our responsibility to keep our neighborhoods safe.

Some people really believe criminality is innate in DNA and/or soul.

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ObserverArt  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:35:44am

Doing a little “Counter Jade Helm” searching and came across their organizations web site.

Check their mission statement on the front page:

About Counter Jade Helm
Counter Jade Helm, aka CJH, is a training exercise for the people. In response to the military’s multi-state training, called Jade Helm 2015, citizens will participate in an unofficial fashion to practice counter-insurgency, organizational and intelligence gathering and reporting skills.

CJH is not affiliated with the military’s training exercise.

The objective is not to stop or countermand the military’s training, but to practice our own skills. Anyone can participate. Groups within each state that will play host to the military are being established to streamline the process. Individuals not wishing to be affiliated with a group can also submit information to this website for analysis and publishing. >Vermilion adopts a business or commercial centric visual model, with corporate background shades interwoven with configurable, vibrant or brand colors, allowing for an equilibrium between professionalism and artistic allure.

Looks like they left some of the WordPress theme copy in there (see italics). Yeah, these guys are on the ball!

Link for anyone that wants to follow the followers. Might be some humor in this site.

Counter Jade Helm web site

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:39:44am

Bryan keeps digging==>

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:40:38am

Yeah, that’ll work.

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KiTA  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:43:51am

8 hour bus delay
1 arrest before the bus arrived (guy throwing rocks)
1 drunk guy almost prevented from entering the bus (other guy throwing rocks)
1 heroin overdose upon arriving in boise

… I’m home.

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Teukka  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:46:38am

re: #451 blueraven

Oh my

Isn’t shit like this tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason or rebellion?

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:47:08am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Then you’ll like this photo.

If you haven’t already, check this ebay link— (my BIL collects vintage postcards and find a lot of them on ebay.)

ebay.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:50:22am

re: #458 Teukka

Isn’t shit like this tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason or rebellion?

Idle musings of a Summer’s day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:50:38am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:53:28am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>

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Teukka  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:54:22am

re: #460 Decatur Deb

Idle musings of a Summer’s day.

You have a wicked idea of idle musings. Over here, that kind of talk would result in all of PST, PET, RPS/Säk, MUST, KSI and SuPo being on your six and most likely on your case.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:55:59am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

Grandmas don’t run countries…they can barely run their households….Grandmas are intended to watch their grandchildren

This is an incredibly profound thought. Irrefutable, actually. The insight is just remarkable.

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Mattand  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:56:17am

re: #456 lawhawk

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Yeah, that’ll work.

LOL.

“Listen, jerks, I can say ignorant shit about things, too! Ask the Star-Ledger! They’re morons like you idiots! PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEE!”

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:56:49am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

Golda Meir.

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Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:56:59am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, but Papa St Reagan had 2 grandchildren from…..his previous non-Nancy family. Shouldn’t he have stayed home with the grandkids?

Forget it Jake, it’s Misogyny.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:57:31am

re: #463 Teukka

You have a wicked idea of idle musings. Over here, that kind of talk would result in all of PST, PET, RPS/Säk, MUST, KSI and SuPo being on your six and most likely on your case.

It’s better, really, when they belch openly about it.

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Mattand  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:57:53am

22 year Apple customer here. This is why I hate Apple fanboys.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:57:59am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

Bryan keeps digging==>

Wasn’t Bryan just complaining about black-on-white crime? Also wasn’t aware we were making efforts to “stop black crime”. Aren’t we trying to prevent all crime, Bryan?

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Teukka  Jul 13, 2015 • 8:58:54am

re: #468 Decatur Deb

It’s better, really, when they belch openly about it.

Yeah. But here, it would get both civilian and military security services on their six (TL;DR - bad experience with SS and SA a while back).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:02:40am
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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:06:36am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And VA Republicans will claim credit for the budget surplus, before launching into bitching about how taxes are too high if the government can turn a surplus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:08:36am

re: #466 lawhawk

Golda Meir.

Margaret Thatcher

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makeitstop  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:08:45am

Ola, Lizards!

I haven’t been around much because I got a call from a band who needed a stand-in guitarist and went out on a small tour with them for the better part of a week. Nothing huge, just a few shows from South Jersey up to northern Connecticut.

It was fun, but I’d kind of forgotten how tiring being on the road actually is. When I got home I quoted Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon to my wife - ‘I’m getting too old for this shit.’

Being a touring musician is a young man’s game, and I’m no longer a young man. It was pretty cool to go out on the road again for a brief time, though.

So… what’d I miss?

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:09:00am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

A far better use of the money would be a major infusion of funds into the pension system, which is facing a multibillion dollar shortfall due to legislative chicanery - where states would cut payments mandated by law or rule, or gimmicks, and kick the bill down the road.

This is a huge problem nationally as states have played this game time and time again, creating a huge shortfall in pension funds.

The same issue faces NJ, where Gov. Christie isn’t abiding by the law he wrote and saw passed - to reform the pension system, but he’s not kicking in the pension payment he swore he would.

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blueraven  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:11:47am

Governor Abbott was on Fox this morning bitching about El Chapo escape.

Of course he blames Obama for Chapo not being sent to USA as requested..

Mexico will not extradite because we are a death penalty country.

Back when Perry was governor, we had a Mexican national on death row. Perry would not extradite him to Mexico and he was executed.

npr.org

While he certainly was a bad dude, you just cant have it both ways.

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:14:09am

re: #428 freetoken

Speaking of Faux News, did you know that Doocy is a literature critic?

Fox & Friends rips ‘Mockingbird’ sequel as ‘revisionist fiction’ for making white hero into a racist

I suspect that Doocy doesn’t know what “fiction” means.

I didn’t think Doocy could be any dumber, but apparently I was wrong—since Go Set a Watchman was written before Mockingbird…ugh—not worth parsing his idiocy. (BTW—I thought I’d ordered the Kindle version, but I guess I ordered the hardcover, which is set to arrive tomorrow.)

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:16:18am

This is one of the many powers that a President has that hard coded into the Constitution. Yet, President Obama has used this power less than any of his predecessors. By a wide margin.

justice.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:28:52am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:38:23am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

Frum is an absolute scumbag. According to Frum, that tweet was a suppose to be a private Twitter conversation with a friend. Imagine what else he says behind closed doors.

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:38:30am

Finally read the actual article about Doocy’s idiocy, only to find that Kevin Jackson is even dumber than Doocy (didn’t think that was possible.)

“I don’t know the timeline,” Jackson admitted. “But to finish it in this way after America has, again, come to love Atticus Finch — and I think if you just read the novel it’s one thing, but to see Gregory Peck play it, there’s nothing racist about Gregory Peck.

Well then, case closed!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:42:29am

re: #481 Dr. Matt

Frum is an absolute scumbag. According to Frum, that tweet was a suppose to be private Twitter conversation with a friend. Imagine what else he says behind closed doors.

Reminds me of Romney’s 47% remarks.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:45:20am

re: #483 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Reminds me of Romney’s 47% remarks.

And in both cases, the douche bags doubled-down.

UPDATE JUL 13, 2015 10:51 AM
Frum appeared on Roland Martin’s show on TV One on Monday morning to defend his tweets. Frum largely attempted to shift the topic to a general discussion of steroid use in tennis. He did, however, assert there was reason to suspect Serena Williams in particular. Frum suggested that during a two year period from 2010 to 2011, Serena Williams was not drug tested at all. During that time period, Williams was tested for drugs at least eight times, according to an official International Tennis Federation report. In an email, Frum said he was referencing “out of competition” testing. That claim is true, although professional tennis conducted only a handful of “out of competition” blood tests during those years. Over the last 3 years, Serena has been subjected to at least 12 “out of competition” blood tests.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:46:38am

re: #482 BeachDem

Finally read the actual article about Doocy’s idiocy, only to find that Kevin Jackson is even dumber than Doocy (didn’t think that was possible.)

“I don’t know the timeline,” Jackson admitted. “But to finish it in this way after America has, again, come to love Atticus Finch — and I think if you just read the novel it’s one thing, but to see Gregory Peck play it, there’s nothing racist about Gregory Peck.

Well then, case closed!

GREGORY PECK WAS TEH ANTI-WHITE RACIST!!!! HE HATED TEH WHITE WHALE!!!!!!

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Jenner7  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:50:01am

Has Obama invaded Texas yet?

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Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:50:02am

How dare Harper Lee change Atticus Finch into a racist before a screenplay was written for a movie that portrayed him as a N*clang Lover!

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:53:37am

I had forgotten all about Margaret and Helen, but they definitely rock:

It’s just so odd that all this hatred and discrimination seems to be emanating from a bunch of Republicans who claim to represent Jesus. Now there is a conundrum. As a Christian politician do you abide by the law of the land and treat others with love and respect or do you follow the teachings of Jesus and treat others with love and respect? Such a dilemma.

I look forward to the day the Supreme Court rules that a political party can’t have a monopoly on God. I mean it really.

margaretandhelen.com

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:54:19am

re: #486 Jenner7

Has Obama invaded Texas yet?

I’m still waiting to get my recall orders from FEMA on my Obamaphone. On Sunday I spent countless hours polishing my jackboots.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:55:57am

re: #475 makeitstop

Ola, Lizards!

I haven’t been around much because I got a call from a band who needed a stand-in guitarist and went out on a small tour with them for the better part of a week. Nothing huge, just a few shows from South Jersey up to northern Connecticut.

It was fun, but I’d kind of forgotten how tiring being on the road actually is. When I got home I quoted Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon to my wife - ‘I’m getting too old for this shit.’

Being a touring musician is a young man’s game, and I’m no longer a young man. It was pretty cool to go out on the road again for a brief time, though.

So… what’d I miss?

Donald Trump’s hair ate his brain and now has control of The Donald’s Presidential campaign.

Seems to be working too.

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Jenner7  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:56:12am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:56:19am

re: #489 Dr. Matt

I’m still waiting to get my recall orders from FEMA on my Obamaphone. On Sunday I spent countless hours polishing my jackboots.

Did you remember to get your rainbow uniform back from the cleaners’?

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:58:18am

re: #483 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Reminds me of Romney’s 47% remarks.

They keep forgetting the old Klingon proverb, “If you do not want something heard, do not say it.”

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jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 9:59:19am

re: #486 Jenner7

Has Obama invaded Texas yet?

Follow the paranoid freakout live:
twitter.com

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:00:08am

re: #492 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Did you remember to get your rainbow uniform back from the cleaners’?

CRAP! Thanks for the reminder. The cleaners close at 7. I have time.

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jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:00:20am

BLURRY PHOTOS OF TRUCKS AT A GAS STATION!!!

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Mattand  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:00:25am

re: #475 makeitstop

Ola, Lizards!

I haven’t been around much because I got a call from a band who needed a stand-in guitarist and went out on a small tour with them for the better part of a week. Nothing huge, just a few shows from South Jersey up to northern Connecticut.

It was fun, but I’d kind of forgotten how tiring being on the road actually is. When I got home I quoted Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon to my wife - ‘I’m getting too old for this shit.’

Being a touring musician is a young man’s game, and I’m no longer a young man. It was pretty cool to go out on the road again for a brief time, though.

So… what’d I miss?

Where in South Jersey?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:01:36am

re: #491 Jenner7

El Chapo? Those who really know are more worried about El Guapo.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:06:24am

re: #482 BeachDem

Finally read the actual article about Doocy’s idiocy, only to find that Kevin Jackson is even dumber than Doocy (didn’t think that was possible.)

“I don’t know the timeline,” Jackson admitted. “But to finish it in this way after America has, again, come to love Atticus Finch — and I think if you just read the novel it’s one thing, but to see Gregory Peck play it, there’s nothing racist about Gregory Peck.

Well then, case closed!

Who’s Kevin Jackson?

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Mattand  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:06:39am

re: #496 jaunte

The responses are just as batshit as the original Tweet.

I am sooooooooo fighting the urge to mess with that Twitter stream right now.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:07:09am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

GREGORY PECK WAS TEH ANTI-WHITE RACIST!!!! HE HATED TEH WHITE WHALE!!!!!!

You know who I want to hear comment on this important issue? CCJ. Think I’ll check out his Twi…..oh wait

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:08:07am

re: #496 jaunte

And here’s a Navy A4 making an obvious reconnaissance pass over Kingsville, TX. The evidence is indisputable!

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Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:08:29am

re: #498 Higgs Boson’s Mate

El Chapo? Those who really know are more worried about El Guapo.

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¿Would you say that I have a plethora of piñatas?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:08:49am

re: #496 jaunte

BLURRY PHOTOS OF TRUCKS AT A GAS STATION!!!

Account hasn’t twittered since April. Does this mean Jade Helm has already happened?

/

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Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:10:03am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:10:23am

re: #504 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Account hasn’t twittered since April. Does this mean Jade Helm has already happened?

/

It’s the radio silence right before a military operation that tells you it’s about to start.

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:11:58am

re: #499 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Who’s Kevin Jackson?

He wrote a book called “Race Pimping”

donotlink.com

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Timothy Watson  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:12:00am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:12:06am

re: #505 Dr. Matt

As Meat Loaf sang, 5 out of 6 ain’t bad.
BTW, why does ain’t get an apostrophe?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:12:19am

re: #506 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It’s the radio silence right before a military operation that tells you it’s about to start.

I’d like to spend a moment in silence for the brave photographer who may well have had to take his suicide pill.

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:12:28am

re: #503 Franklin

Donald Trump is remaking that movie. It’s called No Amigos. /David Letterman

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Dave In Austin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:14:18am
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blueraven  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:14:21am

re: #496 jaunte

BLURRY PHOTOS OF TRUCKS AT A GAS STATION!!!

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I think I see a space alien in that first photo!

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Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:15:44am

Way OT but the best part of that movie:

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calochortus  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:16:01am

re: #509 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

As Meat Loaf sang, 5 out of 6 ain’t bad.
BTW, why does ain’t get an apostrophe?

I think it started out as a contraction of “am not.”

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lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:16:13am

OFFS!

Proving that the clown bus has a new leader: Scott Walker, come on down.

We’ve all known he was going to run, but how about coming up with a new and unique logo, instead of stealing one for America’s Best Contacts & Glasses? That’s the least you could have done.

ID-10T error. That’s quite the launch failure.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:16:41am

re: #513 blueraven

I think I see a space alien in that first photo!

The Navy clearly Photoshopped the alien to distract you from those invading trucks.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:18:41am

re: #515 calochortus

I think it started out as a contraction of “am not.”

Is that how we got “art” (Thou art…)? As in You are too an ass…

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Targetpractice  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:19:17am

re: #516 lawhawk

OFFS!

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Proving that the clown bus has a new leader: Scott Walker, come on down.

We’ve all known he was going to run, but how about coming up with a new and unique logo, instead of stealing one for America’s Best Contacts & Glasses? That’s the least you could have done.

ID-10T error. That’s quite the launch failure.

Ah, that’s the Scotty we’ve come to know and hate, doing the least work possible and taking all the credit.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:21:22am

re: #516 lawhawk

OFFS!

Proving that the clown bus has a new leader: Scott Walker, come on down.

We’ve all known he was going to run, but how about coming up with a new and unique logo, instead of stealing one for America’s Best Contacts & Glasses? That’s the least you could have done.

ID-10T error. That’s quite the launch failure.

Poor America’s Best. They’re already catching flack/attention for the logo.

G-d Walker’s a dumbass.

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Skip Intro  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:23:09am

re: #516 lawhawk

OFFS!

[Embedded content]

Proving that the clown bus has a new leader: Scott Walker, come on down.

We’ve all known he was going to run, but how about coming up with a new and unique logo, instead of stealing one for America’s Best Contacts & Glasses? That’s the least you could have done.

ID-10T error. That’s quite the launch failure.

Even Twitchy is slamming him for this. I guess the Kochs will have to buy the company to bail poor Scotty out.

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Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:23:12am
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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:23:18am

re: #516 lawhawk

OFFS!

[Embedded content]

Proving that the clown bus has a new leader: Scott Walker, come on down.

We’ve all known he was going to run, but how about coming up with a new and unique logo, instead of stealing one for America’s Best Contacts & Glasses? That’s the least you could have done.

ID-10T error. That’s quite the launch failure.

Also:

Look like red, GRAY and blue to me.

524
Eventual Carrion  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:24:05am

re: #417 darthstar

4000? I thought we were 6000 years old.

First 200 years we were teething and pooping our pants. We don’t like to talk about that period all that much.

525
makeitstop  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:24:30am

re: #490 Romantic Heretic

Donald Trump’s hair ate his brain and now has control of The Donald’s Presidential campaign.

Seems to be working too.

Thanks for the update! :)

526
calochortus  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:24:47am

re: #518 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Is that how we got “art” (Thou art…)? As in You are too an ass…

My guess is that “art” is some sort of conjugation of “are” since we have “you are” and “thou art.”

Fun fact: “You” used to be plural (thou being singular.) When ‘you’ expanded to include the singular, it was unclear for a while whether one should use a singular or plural verb. That is why perfectly educated people wrote “Was you there?” and the like. Obviously, the plural won out even when “you” is singular, giving us “you were” even when referring to one person.

527
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:26:14am

re: #521 Skip Intro

Even Twitchy is slamming him for this. I guess the Kochs will have to buy the company to bail poor Scotty out.

I forgot to mention this from our last George Soros meeting, but this was one of our master plots. Walker bought it hook line and sinker.

//

528
Kragar  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:27:11am
529
makeitstop  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:27:19am

re: #497 Mattand

Where in South Jersey?

Actually more central than south, but more south than I’ve played in a while - Jackson, by Great Adventure. Two shows in two different venues on Saturday. It was hot as hell out there.

530
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:27:55am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
1. No they can’t be forced.
2. There are some rabbis who already do this.
3. Ministers, priests, pastors, rabbis & imams are not public businesses.

531
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:28:36am

re: #528 Kragar

Great, he’s got the stolen logo in his f0cking shirts, too.

532
lawhawk  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:30:09am

re: #523 BeachDem

533
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:30:44am

re: #526 calochortus

My guess is that “art” is some sort of conjugation of “are” since we have “you are” and “thou art.”

Fun fact: “You” used to be plural (thou being singular.) When ‘you’ expanded to include the singular, it was unclear for a while whether one should use a singular or plural verb. That is why perfectly educated people wrote “Was you there?” and the like. Obviously, the plural won out even when “you” is singular, giving us “you were” even when referring to one person.

Plus, either the second-person singular was so thoroughly obsolete by the mid-17th century that nobody knew how to use it right, or the Quakers deliberately reverse the cases as a recognition signal. I’m not sure which—but they say “thee” for “thou” and vice-versa.

534
Dr. Matt  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:30:48am
535
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:31:20am

WHUT==>

“The Sharing Economy” In which CEO’s get to keep All The Things by recruiting volunteers from The Internet to do All The Works.

536
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:32:15am

re: #521 Skip Intro

Even Twitchy is slamming him for this. I guess the Kochs will have to buy the company to bail poor Scotty out.

They’d better not until I go in for an appointment—just got a notice I’m due….

537
blueraven  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:33:31am
538
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:34:06am

Something tells me America’s Best’s lawyers are contacting a certain mid-western governor right about now….

539
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:35:18am

re: #538 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Something tells me America’s Best’s lawyers are contacting a certain mid-western governor right about now….

“Liberals use underhanded tactic to deprive Walker of his free speech rights!”

540
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:36:29am

re: #539 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Liberals use underhanded tactic to deprive Walker of his free speech rights!”

Walker is just “Sharing The Economy”!!!!11!!

541
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:37:03am

Since Walker’s last name starts with a W, maybe he could have thought of a logo that had a W in it. Or this one.

542
BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:37:40am

re: #534 Dr. Matt

Taitz got her arsed handed to her….again:

Birther lawyer/dentist Orly Taitz has latest round of lawsuits against Obama smacked down by Texas judge

Why did it take a 35-page memorandum to say Hanen found Taitz does not have standing

What a freaking waste of time and money—he should have sanctioned her for wasting the court’s time. But the pic of Orly with the story is worth the price of admission. (NSFH—not safe for humans.)

valleymorningstar.com

543
Dave In Austin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:37:59am
544
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:38:31am

re: #531 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Great, he’s got the stolen logo in his f0cking shirts, too.

What the hell would it take to use a different number of stripes or something? I mean seriously…. I once had a pair of cheap tennis shoes that had cut-out-with-pinking-shears stripes just like Adidas—but because there were four instead of three it was apparently OK. This is just idiotic.

545
jaunte  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:40:10am

re: #541 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WXYZ
“Walker, Close To The End”

546
Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:41:44am

re: #541 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Since Walker’s last name starts with a W, maybe he could have thought of a logo that had a W in it. Or this one.

Sorry, have to steal that one…tweet to follow

547
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:42:19am

re: #544 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wouldn’t any graphic designer know that logos based on the flag have been done, a whole lot, and thus be very careful that they weren’t inadvertently duplicating someone else’s?

548
Franklin  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:42:53am
549
makeitstop  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:42:55am

re: #544 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What the hell would it take to use a different number of stripes or something?

The three stripes form the ‘E’ in Walker.

Shameless theft. The Kochs have taught him well.

550
Eventual Carrion  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:44:43am

re: #486 Jenner7

Has Obama invaded Texas yet?

2 days, if all goes as planned. Keep that to yourself.

551
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:45:01am

re: #549 makeitstop

The three stripes form the ‘E’ in Walker.

Shameless theft. The Kochs have taught him well.

So what song is he going to steal for his campaign events? They just can’t stop themselves, can they?

552
BeachDem  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:49:16am

re: #548 Franklin

[Embedded content]

Heh. Reminiscent of Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods with her McCain visor:

“In an attempt to ‘go incognito,’ I Sharpied the logo out on my sun visor so photographers would be less likely to recognize me and bother my kids or other vacationers.

Uh huh.

huffingtonpost.com

553
Eventual Carrion  Jul 13, 2015 • 10:49:31am

re: #509 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

As Meat Loaf sang, 5 out of 6 ain’t bad.
BTW, why does ain’t get an apostrophe?

It convinced Webster that it was a contraction of dubious origins.

554
wrenchwench  Jul 13, 2015 • 11:57:25am

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