Nasty Nativist Numbskull Donald Trump Now Has a Commanding Lead in the Polls

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Today the polls are showing that Donald Trump has a huge lead over the other GOP candidates — nearly double the numbers of the runner-up, Scott Walker.

The Donald Trump experience is revealing the deep racist and nativist roots of the conservative movement. The right wing voting base loves the mean-spirited xenophobic garbage on which Trump has based his campaign. Take a run around the right wing blogs and you’ll see thousands upon thousands of comments praising Trump and spewing vile racist hatred. It’s way beyond disgusting at this point; it’s disturbingly insane.

I’ve been writing about the rise of this right wing ugliness for years, and it’s obviously going to be one of the deciding factors in the next presidential election. Donald Trump’s popularity may wane, but nasty bigotry is now the face of the GOP — homophobic, racist, anti-women’s rights and fanatically religious to the point of advocating theocracy.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:42:45pm

The Republican Tell Tale Heart

Answer a question for me, Republicans, how is what Trump said any different, any more outrageous, any more insulting or obnoxious, than the things you’ve been saying about your president? About your neighbors? About veterans like me?

You know who you people are?

You’re the ones who call black people “n*****s” when you think nobody but “real” Americans are listening.

And then, one day, your kid uses that word in front of a black man. And you’re all embarrassed and upset. Heh heh, Mr. Negro, Sir. I have no idea, no idea, where little Donny learned that word. Bad, Donny, bad! You apologize right now to this inferior thug before he rapes Mommy and robs a liquor store!

Donald Trump is the face of the modern Republican party.

Trump has been polling at the top of the GOP field and you’re just now figuring out what a douchebag he is? Well, that’s just plain hysterical.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:43:27pm

I wonder if there is a category for HELL NO

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:43:36pm

It’d be fun to see him get slaughtered in the General.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:43:41pm

He’s draining the support from everyone but Walker and Bush.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:44:53pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:45:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:46:05pm

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:49:25pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

The choice next year will be to return to the early 1900s when the country reversed all the rights blacks gained or continue into the 21st century.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:50:37pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

I think the more interesting question is: How much more will it degenerate?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:50:37pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s draining the support from everyone but Walker and Bush.

Makes sense to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:51:06pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

I blame the media, the establishment, years of hate radio on the airwaves, etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:52:35pm

The GOP strategists are really deluding themselves if they think they have a chance at the White House.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:52:50pm

Remember when Christie was the GOP great hope. I guess a hug with the President after your state is ravaged by natural disaster is worse for your political prospects than being a xenophobic dick if you’re a Republican.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:53:07pm

We can mock and revel in the death spiral of the GOP all we want, but voter restriction laws are going to make the races closer than they should be, and Democrats don’t have a great record of making the effort to vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:53:42pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP strategists are really deluding themselves if they think they have a chance at the White House.

They do got a hard road ahead. Saw here yesterday that they’ll need a higher percentage of the Hispanic vote than they’ve ever gotten and that’s just not going to happen even if Bush or Rubio are nominated.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:55:51pm

re: #14 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

We can mock and revel in the death spiral of the GOP all we want, but voter restriction laws are going to make the races closer than they should be, and Democrats don’t have a great record of making the effort to vote.

If I learned anything from 2008, it’s DO FUCKING NOT CALL THE GOP DEAD. I am not really worried about the presidential election though. I’m more worried about those midterms that the Dems are going to need to build up their numbers in Congress, state legislatures, and governors. I am also thankful that the next census election is in a presidential year but also a little worried that if the president is Hillary or honestly any Democrat that the people will have “Dem fatigue” and vote GOP just because of that.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:56:02pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

If the GOP had a “voice of reason” in their ranks, it would be a perfect time for them to speak out against Trump. Unfortunately no one like that exists in the modern GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:56:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:57:04pm

re: #17 Dr. Matt

If the GOP had a “voice of reason” in their ranks, it would be a perfect time for them to speak out against Trump. Unfortunately no one like that exists in the modern GOP.

Indeed. Sure there’s been some push back on some of Trump’s comments but it’s been pretty timid. And why? Because Bush and the other establishment types know if they push too hard against Trump’s bigotry, they’re done for.

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:57:12pm

I’m still convinced than when Rubbers was running for president in 1988, he really felt it was beneath him to have to resort to all that family values bullshit in his campaign speeches. Now look where we are.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:57:26pm

A little while ago that was Ted Cruz in the leftmost column. Trump is the latest shiny object. I don’t know who the next one will be—Kasich doesn’t seem very shiny, and Walker had his advent covered up by the Trump glare….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:58:14pm

re: #20 Kid A

I’m still convinced than when Rubbers was running for president in 1988, he really felt it was beneath him to have to resort to all that family values bullshit in his speeches. Now look where we are.

That’s what happens when you get attached to Reagan’s hip.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:58:46pm

Don’t panic, but I’m getting rid of the gradient fills in LGF’s buttons and going with a plain white background.

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:58:55pm

I just googled “reasonable republicans.” Google laughed and then my computer shut down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 5:59:51pm

Most of the reasonable Republicans left have either been primaried or were in office when my parents were my age.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:00:17pm

re: #14 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

We can mock and revel in the death spiral of the GOP all we want, but voter restriction laws are going to make the races closer than they should be, and Democrats don’t have a great record of making the effort to vote.

Which is why Clinton has a Latina coordinator in her campaign and is already working on GOTV efforts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:01:00pm

yep…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:01:23pm

re: #26 Belafon

Which is why Clinton has a Latina coordinator in her campaign and is already working on GOTV efforts.

I really really hope she is considering Julian Castro or his brother or any other prominent Hispanic for a running mate. I really like Julian’s qualifications especially. Large city mayor and present cabinet secretary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:01:30pm
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alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:01:38pm

re: #1 Kragar

*GASP*. ‘You people…” /

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:01:42pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yep…

It’s like when Fox complains about the media. Motherfucker you are the media.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:02:05pm

re: #24 Kid A

I just googled “reasonable republicans.” Google laughed and then my computer shut down.

That’s why I felt the Internet shake.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:02:36pm

to be fair the poll did note that der trumpf’s numbers went down ”significantly” in the last day of polling after the war hero controversy hit

the question is how much and for how long

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jamesfirecat  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:02:42pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Most of the reasonable Republicans left have either been primaried or were in office when my parents were my age.

We need to round them up and put them in an Endangered Species reserve, there will be much better internet connections than in the FEMA camps.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:02pm

I’d actually like it if Trump inadvartently pointed out that the Republicans that are condemning him now for his words about McCain had no problem with trashing Kerry or Cleland or Duckworth.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:06pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Don’t panic, but I’m getting rid of the gradient fills in LGF’s buttons and going with a plain white background.

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

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Reno Cowgirl  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:32pm

One caveat about this poll from the Washington Post:
“Support for Trump fell sharply on the one night that voters were surveyed following those [McCain] comments. Telephone interviewing for the poll began Thursday, and most calls were completed before the news about the remarks was widely reported.”

Hopefully the McCain comments might cause some of the GOP base to think twice about supporting such an undisciplined loose canon. But I doubt it. They love this jerk.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:36pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

The universe is expanding.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:50pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

Thanks Obama

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:03:50pm

re: #34 jamesfirecat

We need to round them up I and put them in an Endangered Species reserve, there will be much better internet connections than in the FEMA camps

Can we get Sarah McWhatshername so sing a song with sad music asking “You” to help these poor people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:04:37pm
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gwangung  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:06:08pm

Meh.

Folks are getting too caught up in the daily cycle.

Take the longer term view.

In the longer term view, it’s a good chance that the GOP establishment will use Trump to show that THEIR anointed candidate is more moderate and “reasonable”….and is a good choice in the generals.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:06:11pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

If I learned anything from 2008, it’s DO FUCKING NOT CALL THE GOP DEAD. I am not really worried about the presidential election though. I’m more worried about those midterms that the Dems are going to need to build up their numbers in Congress, state legislatures, and governors. I am also thankful that the next census election is in a presidential year but also a little worried that if the president is Hillary or honestly any Democrat that the people will have “Dem fatigue” and vote GOP just because of that.

I would worry about “Dem fatigue” too, except I don’t think there’s going to be any fatigue if Hillary is President. If you remember the insanity under Bill’s administration, the nutjobs are going to keep it cranked up to 11—or maybe 12—all the time she’s in there.

All the vitriol aimed at that Blah man in the White House was only directly insulting ~13% of the population. Now imagine all the insane vituperation aimed at “That c*** in the White House” for 4 years—that’s going to alienate >50% of the population; and more than that of the people who vote. Hillary may be our only chance of taking the House in a census year.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:06:49pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

They do got a hard road ahead. Saw here yesterday that they’ll need a higher percentage of the Hispanic vote than they’ve ever gotten and that’s just not going to happen even if Bush or Rubio are nominated.

On the other hand Maria Elena Salinas from Univision said today on Here and Now that Bush could beat Hillary with only 35 to 40% of the Hispanic vote.

I think she’s wrong and this is a very optimistic view of Bush’s chances given the growth of the Latino portion of the electorate along with the other demographics the GOP has backslid with in the last four years. Still thought I’d mention it. For one thing her analysis is probably based on the notion of Bush doing as well or even better than Romney did with married white women, which is incredibly unlikely.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:07:47pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

Just speaking for myself, the pseudo-3D look is starting to look cheesy and fake. I’ve always been a fan of simple, clean design, and to me this just makes sense. We don’t need fake raised 3D effects to know it’s a button we can click.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:08:01pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Most of the reasonable Republicans left have either been primaried or were in office when my parents were my age.

I’ve made this argument a couple of times, but unfortunately I don’t have the time to stick around and mix it up with everybody, but the Republican Party needs us. They don’t want us, but they need us. And whether we like it or not, we need a functioning Republican Party. Our system, for better or worse, functions with two viable political parties, and when one is broken down, you see what happens - virtually complete dysfunction in our government. You know what happens when there is an off-year election, the Democrats don’t show up to vote, effectively leaving us with no functioning political parties.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:08:04pm

on the depth of the fatal split in the gop:

“Like the Democrats, RINOS have a stake in maintaining the status quo. For Democrats, illegal aliens are voters. For establishment Republicans, they’re cheap labor for their deep-pocket donors.

Ted Cruz’s autobiography, “A Time for Truth: Reigniting the Promise of America,” shows how cowardly and corrupt the GOP leadership is.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:08:39pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

Jony Ive.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:09:18pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

For one thing her analysis is probably based on the notion of Bush doing as well or even better than Romney did with married white women, which is incredibly unlikely.

Especially if he’s running against Clinton. Yes, there are plenty of women who will vote against Clinton, because obviously women are not a block. But she’ll draw a few people that otherwise wouldn’t pay much attention.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:09:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:10:05pm

I highly suspect the GOP to offer Rubio the VP spot in a lame attempt to appeal to Latinos.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:10:56pm

re: #36 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

why are all web & mobile graphics getting flatter???

Because Friedman told us that the world is flat.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:11:10pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:11:14pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Anything but autoplay.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:11:21pm

Fuck NRO.

There’s that right wing outreach to Jewish voters by calling Bernie Sanders (who is a Jew, and who lost family members in the Holocaust) a Nazi?

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:12:06pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

I highly suspect the GOP to offer Rubio the VP spot in a lame attempt to appeal to Latinos.

Which would make the VP debate very interesting if a Castro is picked by the Democratic nominee.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:14:41pm

re: #56 Belafon

Which would make the VP debate very interesting if a Castro is picked by the Democratic nominee.

The Republicans have their convention first, so in all likelihood they would beat the Democrats to the punch.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:15:01pm

re: #55 lawhawk

Fuck NRO.

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There’s that right wing outreach to Jewish voters by calling Bernie Sanders (who is a Jew, and who lost family members in the Holocaust) a Nazi?

Not to mention ideological purists who are saying Bernie is racist in that stuck-up liberal progressive patronizing racist way of his.

But Hillary’s staffers can compose a Facebook post using all the right buzz words!

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Jenner7  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:16:04pm
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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:16:07pm

There are going to be a lot of Republican women that will vote for Hillary. Make book on it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:16:16pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

I highly suspect the GOP to offer Rubio the VP spot in a lame attempt to appeal to Latinos.

Only if Jeb isn’t the nominee. Bush and Rubio can’t be on the same ticket, because both live in Florida. It would violate the 12th Amendment.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:16:22pm

re: #48 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Jony Ive.

He definitely led the way. But I’ve always disliked fake drop shadows and embossing and other 3D graphic effects.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:18:05pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

He definitely led the way. But I’ve always disliked fake drop shadows and embossing and other 3D graphic effects.

Can you give us a comet effect with letters that read “Little Green Footballs” that follow the cursor around the screen?

RBS

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:18:23pm

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

Not to mention ideological purists who are saying Bernie is racist in that stuck-up liberal progressive patronizing racist way of his.

But Hillary’s staffers can compose a Facebook post using all the right buzz words!

I like the contrast between the two statements about the candidates.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:19:19pm

re: #42 gwangung

Meh.

Folks are getting too caught up in the daily cycle.

Take the longer term view.

In the longer term view, it’s a good chance that the GOP establishment will use Trump to show that THEIR anointed candidate is more moderate and “reasonable”….and is a good choice in the generals.

Can’t wait to see his reaction.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:20:07pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

He definitely led the way. But I’ve always disliked fake drop shadows and embossing and other 3D graphic effects.

There’s nothing I like better than a graphics layout that approaches a Zen garden in its simplicity and cleanliness - especially when you throw in flaming skulls.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:21:01pm

People with an eye for design may have noticed that LGF’s basic color palette is designed to be very unobtrusive. I favor denatured colors, so that photos and graphics in the posts really stand out as they should, without having to compete with the page’s design elements.

Getting rid of the gradient fills in our buttons is a natural evolution of that design aesthetic.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:21:02pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Only if Jeb isn’t the nominee. Bush and Rubio can’t be on the same ticket, because both live in Florida. It would violate the 12th Amendment.

To be perfectly exact, the way I read the 12th Amendment both Bush and Rubio could hypothetically be on the same ticket, but they would sacrifice all the electoral votes from Florida. That, of course, is a handicap that no sane candidate would accept.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:22:14pm

re: #14 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

We can mock and revel in the death spiral of the GOP all we want, but voter restriction laws are going to make the races closer than they should be, and Democrats don’t have a great record of making the effort to vote.

Ain’t that the sad and sorry truth.

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Jenner7  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:23:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:24:15pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

He definitely led the way. But I’ve always disliked fake drop shadows and embossing and other 3D graphic effects.

but also i think graphics tend to obey the laws of fashion and sooner or later any graphic trends or styles can get stale

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jamesfirecat  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:24:36pm

re: #46 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’ve made this argument a couple of times, but unfortunately I don’t have the time to stick around and mix it up with everybody, but the Republican Party needs us. They don’t want us, but they need us. And whether we like it or not, we need a functioning Republican Party. Our system, for better or worse, functions with two viable political parties, and when one is broken down, you see what happens - virtually complete dysfunction in our government. You know what happens when there is an off-year election, the Democrats don’t show up to vote, effectively leaving us with no functioning political parties.

The Republican Party can’t be helped till it hits rock bottom and realizes it has a racist/Austrian economics/homophobia /etc problem. Till the trying to do anything but oppose it is doing nothing but making things worse.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:24:43pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

Ain’t that the sad and sorry truth.

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As long as you add gerrymandering to that. And I know about 2010, when Republicans turned out in greater numbers than usual, while the Democrats turned out like they normally do.

Democrats need to realize they need to get out more than normal to fix the redistricting problem.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:25:00pm

re: #59 Jenner7

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I will never unsee that fucking spittle in the corner of his mouth the whole speech.

G A H

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Tigger2005  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:27:40pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

People just don’t know how to think anymore. Fundamentalist Christianity has a lot to do with it. The fantasies they have to weave, the mental gymnastics and denial they must engage in to maintain their belief system is remarkable. I have a good friend, decent, kind, honest, hard-working, fun-loving family man, and he admires men like Carson and Trump and that makes me physically ill. I literally hurt for him. He just can’t see. He wasn’t taught the critical thinking skills to see. He was taught a lifestyle, an attitude. He’s a good man but he could be an even better man if he wasn’t trapped by this ideology that makes him look up to hateful, willfully ignorant, lying con men like Trump and Carson. The scary thing is, if we have another bad economic crisis, Trump or someone like him could well become President, the way Hitler used the 30’s economic crisis to take Germany. And people like my friend will eagerly vote for him. Good people who can’t think.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:28:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:28:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:28:52pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

On the other hand Maria Elena Salinas from Univision said today on Here and Now that Bush could beat Hillary with only 35 to 40% of the Hispanic vote.

I think she’s wrong and this is a very optimistic view of Bush’s chances given the growth of the Latino portion of the electorate along with the other demographics the GOP has backslid with in the last four years. Still thought I’d mention it. For one thing her analysis is probably based on the notion of Bush doing as well or even better than Romney did with married white women, which is incredibly unlikely.

I honestly don’t think Jeb is a strong candidate. Don’t get me wrong. He’d be tougher than most of them running but he doesn’t have his brother’s “aw shucks” likability or his father’s war hero/Reagan coat tail status. I also think the fact he hasn’t run a campaign since 2002 is going to handicap him some.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:31:32pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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I assume you’re talking about the lefty more progressive than thou types.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:31:51pm

re: #73 Belafon

As long as you add gerrymandering to that. And I know about 2010, when Republicans turned out in greater numbers than usual, while the Democrats turned out like they normally do.

Democrats need to realize they need to get out more than normal to fix the redistricting problem.

Democratic candidates might fare better if they didn’t run away from their president’s electoral accomplishments. They could try sounding like Democrats while they’re at it.

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KilohanaHI  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:32:17pm

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:32:41pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

I don’t think he’ll be able to fake it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:34:21pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I assume you’re talking about the lefty more progressive than thou types.

I was thinking it was more along the lines of taking certain groups for granted.

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missliberties  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:35:03pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It really does make me sick that the right wing base has degenerated this far, and I blame the media in part, for being so timid about calling them out when the racism started to surface in the Tea Party movement.

Yes Yes and Yes.

The media has played a part in all of this, which is the aspect I find most alarming. !!! Fourth Estate where are you? Please come to the rescue.

Right wing political populists with pitchforks playing in a hay field with a blow torch while eating hate sandwiches are not good for America.

Now hiring: Responsible media & citizens needed to call out this BS. Where is the leadership to help calm this nation down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:35:55pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Democratic candidates might fare better if they didn’t run away from their president’s electoral accomplishments. They could try sounding like Democrats while they’re at it.

What pisses me off is so many of these Democrats got elected in part due to Obama’s coattails and they run away from him the second he becomes a little unpopular. Again I don’t expect a conservative Democrat in Kentucky like Allison Grimes to be in strong agreement with me on the issues but you know what, show some loyalty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:36:08pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

And apparently he also collects bibles…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:36:24pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

I was thinking it was more along the lines of taking certain groups for granted.

Ah okay. That works too. I agree with whatever he’s saying though.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:37:01pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

Judging by Trump’s success so far, it will be more than enough. It will be interesting to see if his remarks about John McCain will hurt him. I doubt that they will.

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jamesfirecat  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:37:09pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And apparently he also collects bibles…

As a fellow Presbyterian, I appologize on behalf of my relgion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:02pm

re: #89 jamesfirecat

As a fellow Presbyterian, I appologize on behalf of my relgion.

It’s okay. You guys still made Scotch after you left the RCC. I prefer Irish whiskey but the teeny bit of Scot in me doesn’t mind some Scotch at times.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:02pm

I am shocked SHOCKED to see Dim Jim use pronouns correctly==>

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:05pm

Silver says Trump is the ultimate troll:
fivethirtyeight.com

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:12pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Democratic candidates might fare better if they didn’t run away from their president’s electoral accomplishments. They could try sounding like Democrats while they’re at it.

sound like democrats???

if they did that, the ronald reagan monster under the bed might come out and say boo!

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:22pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

I saw this on Hot Air today. Trump to Iowa evangelicals: I’m not sure I’ve ever asked God for forgiveness. They were not happy in the comments.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:27pm

You’ve got to read further down, in Dr. Mom’s responses.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:38:46pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And apparently he also collects bibles…

What does he think people assume he is? Aside from being a narcissistic asshole who probably has portraits of himself as groom and bride in his house?

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:39:03pm

re: #89 jamesfirecat

Presbyterians voted to perform gay marriage. Trump’s just your really crazy uncle.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:39:16pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

What pisses me off is so many of these Democrats got elected in part due to Obama’s coattails and they run away from him the second he becomes a little unpopular. Again I don’t expect a conservative Democrat in Kentucky like Allison Grimes to be in strong agreement with me on the issues but you know what, show some loyalty.

If a candidate can’t be reasonably loyal and supportive of a president from his or her own party then I doubt that they’ll be loyal to me either.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:39:39pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

I am shocked SHOCKED to see Dim Jim use pronouns correctly==>

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That Ben Shapiro a man who knows nothing about science was brought on to debate transgender biology is beyond me. That DJ got the pronoun right astounds me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:40:09pm

re: #98 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If a candidate can’t be reasonably loyal and supportive of a president from his or her own party then I doubt that they’ll be loyal to me either.

Exactly and that’s why I understand to some degree the frustration of those who don’t vote in the midterms. To clarify I’ve voted in every midterm I could except 2010 and that’s because it was tough for me understanding how absentee ballots worked on campus.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:40:24pm

re: #50 Kragar

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Ah, I see more RAZZIES in Sandler’s future…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:40:27pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

Trump’s daughter converted to Judaism. This will help him with the “Israel before everything else” crowd.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:41:41pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And apparently he also collects bibles…

Of course he does. Bibles never go out of style and will appreciate in value.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:42:14pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

I highly suspect the GOP to offer Rubio the VP spot in a lame attempt to appeal to Latinos.

Just imagine a Trump/Rubio ticket…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:42:26pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s daughter converted to Judaism. This will help him with the “Israel before everything else” crowd.

Not so sure about that. I suspect there will be a lot of Evangelicals who would see that as going the wrong direction.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:42:27pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I assume you’re talking about the lefty more progressive than thou types.

Yes, but really it applies to everyone. It’s the same reason conservatives will never get any traction aiming their insulting “liberal plantation” rhetoric at black people. Nobody likes being talked down to, ever. Nobody likes being told that they’re too stupid to recognize their own self interest, even if they demonstrably are acting against it like poor undermining their economic security by voting for the GOP. If we ever want to persuade people to our point of view it helps to take a step back and ask ourselves how we’d react to somebody saying the same shit to us. If we can’t formulate an argument that doesn’t come off as insulting upon reflection then it’s probably best to just shut the fuck up.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:42:37pm

Trump? Walker?

Get out the vote or bring out your dead (if you’re old, poor, a union member, Mexican, etc.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:42:45pm

I seem to remember WFB being lauded when he threatened Gore Vidal when Vidal called him a cryptonazi but perfectly acceptable for Little Benny to call transgendered people “mentally disturbed.” Really transpeople endure a lot more shit than that sorry baby does.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:43:41pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but really it applies to everyone. It’s the same reason conservatives will never get any traction aiming their insulting “liberal plantation” rhetoric at black people. Nobody likes being talked down to, ever. Nobody likes being told that they’re too stupid to recognize their own self interest, even if they demonstrably are acting against it like poor undermining their economic security by voting for the GOP. If we ever want to persuade people to our point of view it helps to take a step back and ask ourselves how we’d react to somebody saying the same shit to us. If we can’t formulate an argument that doesn’t come off as insulting upon reflection then it’s probably best to just shut the fuck up.

Agreed. I was just wondering what you were specifically referring to here. Talking down to people is no way to get their support.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:43:55pm

The Bridge Troll is in the news again

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:44:21pm

re: #101 Joe Bacon

Ah, I see more RAZZIES in Sandler’s future…

His current project is a three hour movie version of the “Ow! My Balls!” television show from “Idiocracy.”

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jamesfirecat  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:45:04pm

re: #97 Belafon

Presbyterians voted to perform gay marriage. Trump’s just your really crazy uncle.

To be perfectly honest my starting to distance myself from organized religion came when my particular church vote down accepting a new pastor who was an open lesbian (happened around then the time Two Towers came out) with lots of people who do not normally attend the church showing up and some very hateful things being said that if I had been a bit older at the time and not worried about my parrents (not that they are any less liberal then me on the issue, they just do not want to see me make a fool out of myself) going up and doing an importu rendition of the climax of Inherit the Wind on the subject of people who think they know what God wants better than anybody else…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:45:06pm

I used to like Adam Sandler and then I graduated the 8th grade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:45:50pm
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jamesfirecat  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:47:32pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I used to like Adam Sandler and then I graduated the 8th grade.

Happy Gilmore is a legitimately good film that makes you hate the villian and like the protagonist.

That is all I can say in his favor.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:47:41pm

If you’re tired of those Earth pictures that always show Africa and Antarctica, we had to go a million miles away to get a shot showing North America:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:48:29pm

re: #112 jamesfirecat

To be perfectly honest my starting to distance myself from organized religion came when my particular church vote down accepting a new pastor who was an open lesbian (happened around then the time Two Towers came out) with lots of people who do not normally attend the church showing up and some very hateful things being said that if I had been a bit older at the time and not worried about my parrents (not that they are any less liberal then me on the issue, they just do not want to see me make a fool out of myself) going up and doing an importu rendition of the climax of Inherit the Wind on the subject of people who think they know what God wants better than anybody else…

That’s interesting that you bring up Inherit the Wind. I saw the play for that when I was in 8th grade and the year of the 2000 election. I had some very religious (RCC) friends who attended parochial school at that time too and I saw how narrow minded their upbringing was and how in the play like real life that Bertram Gates aka John Scopes was actually prosecuted for teaching evolution. That bothered me. My parents aren’t really religious people but all four of my grandparents were at some point and I even had a great uncle who was an ordained priest but there was a lot that turned me off of religion. I tried re-embracing Catholicism in 2006-2007ish. Never went to Mass or anything like that but I subscribed to a lot of Catholicism’s tenets. Now I think the key in life is just to be a good person and if you’re religious, good for you, if you’re not hey that works too.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:48:38pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Adam Sandler, like Eddie Murphy before him, has reached the point in his acting career where he needs to do voice acting. Then, when he’s a little older, he can emerge doing serious roles.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:48:58pm

re: #81 KilohanaHI

I worry that Trump will lose some of his appeal once the religious fundies realize that he actually isn’t one of them. Can he fake it - or will hating on Islam be enough to keep him safe?

Wait for Trump to go on the 666, er, 700 club and tell Pat Robertson that he’s found Jay-Zuss. Then watch that old fart Pat give his blessing to Trump and tell the Jesusbots that Gawd has anointed Trump to be President…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:49:03pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Agreed. I was just wondering what you were specifically referring to here. Talking down to people is no way to get their support.

I don’t think it’s Bernie doing the talking down. I think it’s his supporters who are upset at his treatment by Black Lives Matter.

My initial response to their action at NN was irritation - “Don’t they know that they’ll never get their issues addressed if we don’t elect a Dem?”

Then I thought about it. I, like the rest of white liberals, look at the phenomenon of racism from the outside. We see unarmed black men killed by cops and we say, ‘What a shame! Something should be done!’, but it doesn’t directly touch us.

It’s their lives, every day. No wonder they are disturbed and disappointed to hear nothing said about it.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:49:39pm

re: #116 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you’re tired of those Earth pictures that always show Africa and Antarctica, we had to go a million miles away to get a shot showing North America

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I can see my house!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:50:05pm

re: #115 jamesfirecat

Happy Gilmore is a legitimately good film that makes you hate the villian and like the protagonist.

That is all I can say in his favor.

True Shooter was a great antagonist. His films went down hill though right around that time though. I must confess though. I liked Click even if it was a bit of It’s a Wonderful Life rip-off but i am sucker for alternate reality movies like that. Plus he used a great version of The Cranberrys’ Linger.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:50:46pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it’s Bernie doing the talking down. I think it’s his supporters who are upset at his treatment by Black Lives Matter.

My initial response to their action at NN was irritation - “Don’t they know that they’ll never get their issues addressed if we don’t elect a Dem?”

Then I thought about it. I, like the rest of white liberals, look at the phenomenon of racism from the outside. We see unarmed black men killed by cops and we say, ‘What a shame! Something should be done!’, but it doesn’t directly touch us.

It’s their lives, every day. No wonder they are disturbed and disappointed to hear nothing said about it.

And now they are being told to shut up.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:51:15pm

Conservative Logic:
Liberals are disrespecting our veterans when they called Caitlyn Jenner “brave,”
but John McCain is a coward and traitor for allowing himself get captured by our enemy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:51:19pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it’s Bernie doing the talking down. I think it’s his supporters who are upset at his treatment by Black Lives Matter.

My initial response to their action at NN was irritation - “Don’t they know that they’ll never get their issues addressed if we don’t elect a Dem?”

Then I thought about it. I, like the rest of white liberals, look at the phenomenon of racism from the outside. We see unarmed black men killed by cops and we say, ‘What a shame! Something should be done!’, but it doesn’t directly touch us.

It’s their lives, every day. No wonder they are disturbed and disappointed to hear nothing said about it.

Yeah Bernie doesn’t bother me and I even think I would qualify as a Sanders guy at this point, I am planning to vote for him but his supporters don’t help his cause sometimes I think. I think some of them on Kos were even say that this was staged by Clinton supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:51:50pm

re: #124 DodgerFan1988

Conservative Logic:
Liberals are disrespecting our veterans when they call Caitlyn Jenner “brave,”
but John McCain is a coward and traitor for allowing himself get captured by our enemy.

Makes your head hurt huh.

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bratwurst  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:52:10pm

Drugs are bad, m’kay?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:53:33pm

I was having this conversation with Sergey and some other lizards not that long ago but I think some socialist types make the “revolution” everything and other issues like woman’s, LGBT, disabled folks, etc come second to their revolution. It’s why sadly that sexism, homophobia, etc don’t exactly disappear in socialist regimes since the big goal is the socialist revolution.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:54:14pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

Of course he does. Bibles never go out of style and will appreciate in value.

But copyright has already worked its way up to “Death + 70 years”. What happens when it hits “Death + 2000 years”?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:54:18pm

re: #127 bratwurst

Drugs are bad, m’kay?

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Heh wrong Amy, Mr. Crosby. Still love your tunes though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:55:14pm

niterz, lizardz!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:55:57pm

I mean do we need to do something about class inequality? Absolutely. That’s an issue but you know what so are women’s issues, LGBT issues, etc. Repairing income disparity won’t mean a damn thing if minority groups are still treated like crap.

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BongCrodny  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:56:52pm

July 20, 2015
His Eminence Donald Trump
New York, NY

Dear Doctor Trump:

Has anyone ever told you that you look a LOT like this guy?

He even has the same hair as you! Ha, Ha!

“Farspace” was one of my favorite TV shows! Ever! Do you think Astronaut Crichton ever made it home? I sure hope so!

Your #2 Fan,
Bong Crodny

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KilohanaHI  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:58:11pm

re: #94 Single-handed sailor

NOOOOooo! I don’t think he can win the nomination without Jesus. I couldn’t find a picture of him holding a gun, either. I’m getting really nervous.

He may need to pick his running mate before the primaries. …Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did just that.

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:58:43pm

Awesome read.
salon.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:59:31pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it’s Bernie doing the talking down. I think it’s his supporters who are upset at his treatment by Black Lives Matter.

My initial response to their action at NN was irritation - “Don’t they know that they’ll never get their issues addressed if we don’t elect a Dem?”

Then I thought about it. I, like the rest of white liberals, look at the phenomenon of racism from the outside. We see unarmed black men killed by cops and we say, ‘What a shame! Something should be done!’, but it doesn’t directly touch us.

It’s their lives, every day. No wonder they are disturbed and disappointed to hear nothing said about it.

Bernie fucked up at NN15 but Hillary WASN’T EVEN THERE and then she had a staffer compose a Facebook post using all the right buzzwords.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2015 • 6:59:37pm

re: #133 BongCrodny

“His Eminence?” Isn’t that a little over the top?

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:03:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:05:38pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:05:41pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it’s Bernie doing the talking down. I think it’s his supporters who are upset at his treatment by Black Lives Matter.

My initial response to their action at NN was irritation - “Don’t they know that they’ll never get their issues addressed if we don’t elect a Dem?”

Then I thought about it. I, like the rest of white liberals, look at the phenomenon of racism from the outside. We see unarmed black men killed by cops and we say, ‘What a shame! Something should be done!’, but it doesn’t directly touch us.

It’s their lives, every day. No wonder they are disturbed and disappointed to hear nothing said about it.

Mostly I’m just like if you want to be President show me that you can think on your goddamned feet. I’d probably be really annoyed initially at being interrupted by a bunch of protesters too, and that’s one of about ten thousand reasons why I’d make a shitty President. Reason number two is that I swear all the motherfucking time.

But the way I see it is if you’re going to run for office, and you’re going to speak at something called a “Town Hall” event, you might want to bone up on your extemporaneous speaking skills, and be prepared to deal with some unexpected shit, whether you like it or not. Sticking steadfastly to your prepared stump speech financial bullshit when people whose vote you fucking need are protesting institutional racism and extrajudicial murder might not be the most persuasive move you can make in that scenario.

So yeah, interrupting Bernie was rude, I don’t care. In the context of NN and townhall type events everywhere it should not have comes as anything close to a surprise. Show me you can adapt, show me you deserve to be in charge of US foreign policy, show me you aren’t the kind of person who is easily bamboozled by a group of legitimately pissed off black voters.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:05:47pm

Here many of us are, looking at what Trump is doing, and thinking to ourselves: Oh. 2016! Hillary will wipe the floor with him! Landslide!!!

Stop this thinking right NOW. Do not take next year’s election for granted. We are all going to have to work our asses off to mobilize voters. If the turnout is low, President Trump it will be.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:06:26pm

Welp, I went and read that entire Washington Post article (thanks, Great White Snark!) about what Trump was doing while John McCain was imprisoned in a bamboo cage.

It seems the old man made his fortune as a slumlord before Donald advanced to properties for the affluent.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:06:50pm

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie fucked up at NN15 but Hillary WASN’T EVEN THERE and then she had a staffer compose a Facebook post using all the right buzzwords.

True, Hillary’s approach to the situation was cynical as fuck, but effective.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:06:54pm

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie fucked up at NN15 but Hillary WASN’T EVEN THERE and then she had a staffer compose a Facebook post using all the right buzzwords.

Just so you know, Clinton already made her mistake: npr.org.

If she’d shown up, she would have looked good for getting it right, but then she’d probably be accused of setting it up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:09:30pm

Some of Bernie’s Twitter followers are echoing #tcot HURR HURR BERNIE WAS MARCHIN WITH MLK & SITTIN WITH SNCC 50 YEARS AGO!!!!!!

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BongCrodny  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:09:30pm

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

Donald Trump? I don’t think so!

As a matter of fact, I plan to create a petition requesting — nay, DEMANDING — that in 2025 after his TWO successful terms at 1666 Pennsylvania Avenue, that Dr. Trump run for POPE. He’ll get Vatican City back to Full Employment faster than you can say “YOURRRRRR FIIIIIIIIRED!”

We deserve no less!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:10:27pm

WOW. THE HAIRS ON ALL OF THEM TRUMPS.

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Virginia Dreaming  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:10:56pm

Trump reminds me of Herman Cain. He is flashy, good at attracting attention to himself, but too stupid to make sure it is mostly positive attention. I am pretty sure as Trump rises in the polls, he will self destruct in some similar fashion due to his arrogant stupidity.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:11:31pm

There are at least 4 commuters in the TPGOP clown car that are far more dangerous than Trump. If he makes them blow their cash in the primaries, he has done a national service.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:11:53pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

Jezuz, now we know where the hair loss denial came from.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:12:41pm

Which Number Trump Wife Trophy is that?

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:13:11pm

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

I think that’s Ivana.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:14:14pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

You’d think that with all that dough Papa Trump could have afforded a better rug.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:14:35pm
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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:14:54pm

re: #152 Kid A

I think that’s Ivana.

That’s Marla, who he cheated on Ivana with.

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BongCrodny  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:15:18pm

re: #149 Decatur Deb

There are at least 4 commuters in the TPGOP clown car that are far more dangerous than Trump. If he makes them blow their cash in the primaries, he has done a national service.

I was going to try and guess which 4 you were talking about, but I can’t get the number lower than six: Cruz, Walker, Carson, Perry, Huckabee and Jindal.

Assuming the six I have encompasses the four, which two of those do you consider less dangerous than Trump?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:15:49pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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Dicks given Sanders had family die in the Holocaust. Fuck NRO.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:16:08pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon

Wait for Trump to go on the 666, er, 700 club and tell Pat Robertson that he’s found Jay-Zuss. Then watch that old fart Pat give his blessing to Trump and tell the Jesusbots that Gawd has anointed Trump to be President…

They’ll get on like gangbusters. The rich aren’t like the rest of us.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:16:49pm

NRO ought to look at their own ideology.

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BongCrodny  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:17:21pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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Williamson…isn’t that the guy that DF used to plug?

Jeez.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:18:42pm

re: #156 BongCrodny

I was going to try and guess which 4 you were talking about, but I can’t get the number lower than six: Cruz, Walker, Carson, Perry, Huckabee and Jindal.

Assuming the six I have encompasses the four, which two of those do you consider less dangerous than Trump?

Perry and Jindal, simply because they have no chance at all. Bump Carson out as well, and replace him with Kasich.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:18:50pm

re: #160 BongCrodny

Williamson…isn’t that the guy that DF used to plug?

Jeez.

Yep. Kevin also has some nice words for women who choose to get abortions, I like DF but he’s so wrong about NRO and Williamson.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:19:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:19:53pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Ice cold beer here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:20:04pm

re: #160 BongCrodny

Williamson…isn’t that the guy that DF used to plug?

Jeez.

He is the same guy who said that women who have abortions should be executed.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:20:45pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Ice cold beer here.

What a great idea.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:23:22pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

The GOP establishment has to be seriously regretting tying debate eligibility to poll standing tonight, with Trump way out in front.

It’s typical GOP plan then, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:24:12pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

He is the same guy who said that women who have abortions should be executed.

He’s a fucking weasely pos.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:24:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:24:59pm

Hillary showing up to NN would have been kinda like Jon Huntsman going to the Value Voters summit, very little upside. Hillary’s entire electoral strategy is built around not having to pivot very far to the left to get the nomination, so as to attack the GOP candidate as being an extremist out of touch with the vast majority of moderate voters. Hillary’s polling numbers also put her in a position where she doesn’t actually need to get yelled at right now for every real and imaginary disappointment she’s inflicted on progressive America. She has an enormous lead and she does not need to jeopardize it even if it would be super leadership-y for her to do so. You don’t have to like her to recognize what she’s doing is smart. Cynical maybe, but strategically intelligent.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:25:27pm

NRO has also compared Bernie to Stalin. Again shows what a sad pile of dicks they are.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:26:23pm

re: #169 Ace-o-aces

Jonah “Liberal Fascism” Goldberg has a lot to answer for.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:26:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:27:48pm

re: #172 jaunte

Jonah “Liberal Fascism” Goldberg has a lot to answer for.

The sole purpose of that crap was to make comsevatives feel less guilty about their own role in the rise of European fascism.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:28:04pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

Of course he does. Bibles never go out of style and will appreciate in value.

Especially first editions signed by the author. /

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:28:16pm

re: #173 Kragar

I’m pretty sure they ban ACORN regularly as well.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:28:30pm

re: #173 Kragar

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At last look, it was still illegal to transmute lead into gold.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:30:14pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

NRO has also compared Bernie to Stalin. Again shows what a sad pile of dicks they are.

COMMIE NAZIS!
…

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:30:19pm

re: #1 Kragar

Holy shit, that guy is incredible.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:30:27pm

A few more Udvar-Hazy photos for the Lizards this evening.

Space Shuttle Discovery
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:30:38pm

re: #178 Ace-o-aces

COMMIE NAZIS!
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Never gets old!

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Joe Bacon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:30:41pm

I’m really anxious to see the next set of polls to see if Trump is going to slip. I fear that he won’t since the hard right base of the GOP LOATHES McCain.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:31:57pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

A cynical, calculating, old, white, politician who ducks a chance to show some leadership in order to placate those who will never vote for her anyway. If that doesn’t send younger voters and people of color flocking to the polls then I don’t know what will.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:32:17pm

re: #176 Belafon

I’m pretty sure they ban ACORN regularly as well.

The insane Republicans in Congress are STILL passing bill banning ACORN from receiving Federal funds…

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The War TARDIS  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:33:20pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

To be honest, I do prefer Clinton or Biden. Sanders is only getting support from a specific portion of Democratic voters. Not only that but he seems to, in past burned bridges with alarming regularity.

Not only that, but I also know that while we need to move to the left, it must be gradual. Going too quickly could backfire.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:33:45pm

Off to the side in the one display area was the model used for the mothership in “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”. Since it was a kit-bash there is mention of various in-joke items included on the model. I found a few of them, and also recognized a few parts from other models I was familiar with.

This is not the droid you are looking for
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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:35:38pm

re: #183 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A cynical, calculating, old, white, politician who ducks a chance to show some leadership in order to placate those who will never vote for her anyway. If that doesn’t send younger voters and people of color flocking to the polls then I don’t know what will.

Is that what we’re calling it now?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:35:57pm

re: #183 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A cynical, calculating, old, white, politician who ducks a chance to show some leadership in order to placate those who will never vote for her anyway. If that doesn’t send younger voters and people of color flocking to the polls then I don’t know what will.

WC Fields said never to go on the bill after dogs or children. HRC just extended that to nostalgic socialist heroes. There is no way to actively engage Sanders without coming off as a dick.

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TedStriker  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:37:44pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Just speaking for myself, the pseudo-3D look is starting to look cheesy and fake. I’ve always been a fan of simple, clean design, and to me this just makes sense. We don’t need fake raised 3D effects to know it’s a button we can click.

Skeuomorphic design, more often than not, looks lame and doesn’t age well, especially on the Internet.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:38:40pm

Unleash the 8-bit unicorns!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:39:23pm

re: #187 Belafon

Is that what we’re calling it now?

Would it be better if instead of “show some leadership” I wrote “show that she stands for something other than winning the nomination”?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:41:26pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

WC Fields said never to go on the bill after dogs or children. HRC just extended that to nostalgic socialist heroes. There is no way to actively engage Sanders without coming off as a dick.

I’m sure there is a way it can be done, but that was not going to be a receptive audience for her. She could have hit all the right notes on BLM and still gotten whacked over her awful Iraq War vote, ties to Wall Street and establishment candidate status.

She’s far from an ideal candidate, in part because there are no ideal candidates. Still, expecting her to play against her strengths simply isn’t realistic.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:41:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:42:07pm

re: #191 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Would it be better if instead of “show some leadership” I wrote “show that she stands for something other than winning the nomination”?

She has little chance of losing the nomination. Breaking a sweat now damages the general. That’s pretty much the opposite of the TPGOP wannabes’ problems.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:43:07pm

Popular, Principled, Intelligent. Pick any two.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:51:27pm

re: #191 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Would it be better if instead of “show some leadership” I wrote “show that she stands for something other than winning the nomination”?

As I said earlier, she’s already had to deal with making the “all lives matter” mistake. I’ve read people (Daily Kos) who accused the BLM event as being staged by her.

If you were her campaign team, would you send her to it? What would she get out of it?

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:51:57pm

Update from @jihadijew on his Abraham’s Tent tour

I have hit the road!!
…
So far I have met with the folks from Islamic Relief.
abrahamstent.com
Spoken at ADAMS in Sterling, VA.
abrahamstent.com
I attended iftars in Gaithersburg and Lanham, Maryland.
I am currently in visiting with good friends in the small but mighty Muslim community of Sunbury, PA.
I will be meeting with interfaith activist and author Qasim Rashid ( @muslimIQ ) in Philadelphia on Thursday. (and staying with his family)
I have an event scheduled in Union City, NJ on July 27 at 8:30 at the North Hudson Islamic Educational Center. (Convenient to New York)
A small house event in Wayne, NJ on the July 28
Then to events at a Shia Center on Long Island on July 30
Two events in Burlington, Vermont on August 4-5
Hartford on August 6th
Boston/Sharon August 8-9
So, the journey is underway. I will be sending more details about events. I hope you will share them with folks you know and, of course. I hope to meet YOU!!
b’shalom
Lee

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:52:30pm

re: #197 #FergusonFireside

He’s like the Rockstar of Love.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:53:09pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:59:06pm

re: #42 gwangung

Meh.

Folks are getting too caught up in the daily cycle.

Take the longer term view.

In the longer term view, it’s a good chance that the GOP establishment will use Trump to show that THEIR anointed candidate is more moderate and “reasonable”….and is a good choice in the generals.

QFT

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 7:59:59pm

While today’s poll is 4 days fresher than the nearest in the RCP roll-up, the sharp difference raises the question of an outlier or artifact:

realclearpolitics.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:01:02pm

re: #197 #FergusonFireside

At least the weather will be a bit cooler than today.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:03:54pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:05:04pm

re: #203 #FergusonFireside

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Teeth and a taste for humans should follow shortly.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:05:52pm

re: #203 #FergusonFireside

Heh, some of them look like little yellow butts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:06:19pm

Enjoying Stewart’s take on Trump.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:07:05pm

H A

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:07:51pm

Well, this is big news from China, via CNN.

One-time aide to China’s ex-president accused of corruption, report says

(CNN)Chinese authorities have arrested a former top official in a corruption investigation after expelling him from the ruling Communist Party, state-run Xinhua news agency reported Monday.

Party investigators have accused Ling Jihua, 58, once a top aide to former President Hu Jintao, of accepting huge bribes, illegally obtaining party and state secrets, as well as keeping mistresses and trading power for sex, Xinhua said.

Not mentioned in the article are the New York Times and Bloomberg investigations into the family finances of the former VP and Premier, Wen Jiabao. They uncovered billions in assets in Hong Kong and abroad, plus cushy corporate posts for Wen’s relatives. The Beijing government promptly blocked all access to both media sites. Wen is popular among the people, who call him “Grandpa Wen.”

Xi is cleaning house in the Party selectively, according to the experts. He’s going after officials who are not perceived as supporters of Xi, while being very careful not to nail officials who are more likely to be in his camp.

There’s no word yet whether Xi likes canoli.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:11:13pm

Discovery Channel was pretty agile in getting Havana car porn to the collectors:

Cuban Chrome

discovery.com

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:11:44pm

“You thought Wasilla word-salad was hard to shake? Wait till you get Trump Dump on ya.”

Dog—I am so going to miss Jon Stewart.

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bratwurst  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:12:37pm

Wow, way to stand up for the guy who put you on the map!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:13:50pm

re: #211 bratwurst

Wow, way to stand up for the guy who put you on the map!

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That portrait-in-the-attic thing isn’t working.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:14:01pm

re: #211 bratwurst

Wow, way to stand up for the guy who put you on the map!

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She blames the media. What a courageous response. Really could she be any more pathetic?

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Chan Kobun  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:15:16pm

re: #211 bratwurst

She’s just looking for someone to glom onto. Without that she’s nothing.

Hell, with that she’s nothing.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:17:39pm

re: #214 Chan Kobun

She’s just looking for someone to glom onto. Without that she’s nothing.

Hell, with that she’s nothing.

She needs to run for something so we can rescue Summer from the Vaughn Meador Home for Political Impersonators.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:20:27pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Discovery Channel was pretty agile in getting Havana car porn to the collectors:

Cuban Chrome

discovery.com

US cable channels are going to have a field day in Cuba.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:21:21pm

With the embargo lifted. I hope that means Cuban bread in our stores. I love those Cuban sandwiches.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:26:37pm

re: #111 Higgs Boson’s Mate

His current project is a three hour movie version of the “Ow! My Balls!” television show from “Idiocracy.”

Wonder if 1 hour will feature “Ass.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:28:22pm

re: #218 BeachDem

Wonder if 1 hour will feature “Ass.”

“It won eight Oscars that year, including Best Screenplay.”

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bratwurst  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:31:04pm

Ok, I am not going to be able to handle the “white on white” look of the Twitter site now that they have eliminated backgrounds…especially as it is obvious that the only reason to do so is to make way for advertising. Is Tweetdeck the way to go? Or is there something else to consider?

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Drive By Commenter  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:31:18pm

re: #211 bratwurst

Sarah Quitterface just wants to break off a piece of Donalds grift. And Senator McCain still has not apologized for bringing this bag of trash into the national spotlight. Feel the love now, Johnny?

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:31:35pm

re: #134 KilohanaHI

NOOOOooo! I don’t think he can win the nomination without Jesus. I couldn’t find a picture of him holding a gun, either. I’m getting really nervous.

He may need to pick his running mate before the primaries. …Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did just that.

He mentioned that he’d like to have Oprah as his running mate early on. I don’t think she’s stopped laughing yet.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:33:08pm

Scott Walker: We might have to take military action on Day One

washingtonpost.com

Photojournalist: “The Colonel is not crazy. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad.”

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Drive By Commenter  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:34:42pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Scott Walker: We might have to take military action on Day One

washingtonpost.com

Photojournalist: “The Colonel is not crazy. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad.”

He’s on his Ship Of State and furiously chumming. He’ll reel them in. Blood. Guts. War. Broken Vets with cut benefits. YeeHa.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:35:22pm

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

Here many of us are, looking at what Trump is doing, and thinking to ourselves: Oh. 2016! Hillary will wipe the floor with him! Landslide!!!

Stop this thinking right NOW. Do not take next year’s election for granted. We are all going to have to work our asses off to mobilize voters. If the turnout is low, President Trump it will be.

Thank you. Boots on the ground; person-to-person; Voter registration; GOTV; phone banks. It’s not too soon to start.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:36:34pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, I went and read that entire Washington Post article (thanks, Great White Snark!) about what Trump was doing while John McCain was imprisoned in a bamboo cage.

It seems the old man made his fortune as a slumlord before Donald advanced to properties for the affluent.

And…

As the New York Times reports, in addition to a bunch of college deferments, Trump also got a medical deferment “because of a bone spur in his foot. Mr. Trump could not recall which foot was afflicted.” Might be the one lodged in his mouth.

wonkette.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:36:44pm

Holy canoli, a friend just forwarded me an email loaded with Thomas Jefferson quotes. Now I have to decide whether debunking them is worth the time and effort. Alouette could probably deal with it in 10 minutes. Me, little longer.

Here are two, which I know are bogus.

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots and tyrants.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:41:14pm

Well I heard back from the man who contacted me on ancestry.com. Turns out my great grandmother had a super common name. We confirmed that she was in fact illegitimate. I also understand now why her name on her baptism certificate is different than the name she used upon emigrating and when she lived here. I also have some understanding of Slovak culture that I didn’t before. Had never heard of family nicknames before. Apparently it’s a way you can differentiate between families in case you ever visit your ancestor’s home village which is on my Bucket List. I also understand how my great grandfather despite being an Austro-Hungarian empire citizen was able go to Russia. No borders in those days apparently and apparently my G-Grandfather grew up in a village not even ten miles from the Polish borders. A kind of funny thing to think about since I presently live close to the West Virginia border and my brother lives close to the California one. Decided also to contact someone who I share a surname with in my DNA test results because I think one of his ancestors and mine were either first cousins or siblings possibly. I love this family history stuff.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:41:33pm

re: #225 BeachDem

Thank you. Boots on the ground; person-to-person; Voter registration; GOTV; phone banks. It’s not too soon to start.

dailykos.com:

Clinton’s campaign is burning through an eye-popping $230,000 per day in this stage of the campaign, and much of it is going toward making contact with voters more aggressively than is the norm so early on, whether it be through hiring field organizers with community ties, investing in the newest microtargeting technology or holding events like the one in Philadelphia.

The Clinton team is scouting for consultants in every state with a large Latino presence to develop localized strategies for boosting turnout. Buzz-stirring events like the Dreamers gathering Clinton held in Nevada in early May are conceived with input from local activists.

And I’m not all that great at finding stuff I’ve read, but she’s got people out in states like South Carolina already canvassing as well.

I don’t think the Democrats are taking it as lightly as everyone thinks. Sanders is doing a lot of campaigning himself. There should be a lot of good groundwork for whoever wins the nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:42:46pm

re: #229 Belafon

dailykos.com:

And I’m not all that great at finding stuff I’ve read, but she’s got people out in states like South Carolina already canvassing as well.

I don’t think the Democrats are taking it as lightly as everyone thinks. Sanders is doing a lot of campaigning himself. There should be a lot of good groundwork for whoever wins the nomination.

I think a lot of Clinton’s detractors in both parties underestimate her. I do like Bernie, I won’t lie but I think Hillary has learned some lessons from her 2008 defeat and perhaps her time as SoS too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:45:29pm

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Holy canoli, a friend just forwarded me an email loaded with Thomas Jefferson quotes. Now I have to decide whether debunking them is worth the time and effort. Alouette could probably deal with it in 10 minutes. Me, little longer.

Here are two, which I know are bogus.

I’ve weirdly enough started to dislike Jefferson a little as I’ve gotten older. Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate the Declaration, the Virginia Statute on Religious Freedom, etc but it is so frustrating for me to read “All men are created equal” and then to know that he was not merely a slave-owner but a brutal one and hypocritical one at that. I guess it would bother me less if the mythology about Jefferson the reluctant slave owner wasn’t so ingrained. I have a big problem with the deification of our Founding Fathers anyhow. I appreciate them- do not get me wrong but most of the people I truly appreciate in our country’s history are 20th century people who challenged the status quo the FF’s set up. Sorry ranting.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:46:40pm

re: #229 Belafon

dailykos.com:

And I’m not all that great at finding stuff I’ve read, but she’s got people out in states like South Carolina already canvassing as well.

I don’t think the Democrats are taking it as lightly as everyone thinks. Sanders is doing a lot of campaigning himself. There should be a lot of good groundwork for whoever wins the nomination.

I’m having a good bit of trouble finding someone to fall in on here in the AL/FL borderlands. The Dem county organizations from last go-around are MIA.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:48:44pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

I’ve weirdly enough started to dislike Jefferson a little as I’ve gotten older. Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate the Declaration, the Virginia Statute on Religious Freedom, etc but it is so frustrating for me to read “All men are created equal” and then to know that he was not merely a slave-owner but a brutal one and hypocritical one at that. I guess it would bother me less if the mythology about Jefferson the reluctant slave owner wasn’t so ingrained. I have a big problem with the deification of our Founding Fathers anyhow. I appreciate them- do not get me wrong but most of the people I truly appreciate in our country’s history are 20th century people who challenged the status quo the FF’s set up. Sorry ranting.

That’s what happens when the perfect hero of elementary school history lessons meets reality.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:49:25pm

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Here’s one on the first two quotes: google.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:52:05pm

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s what happens when the perfect hero of elementary school history lessons meets reality.

Exactly. When I was younger and obviously more idealistic, I would be upset when I saw imperfection in my heroes but the more older I get the more I try to see nuance. I think what it is with TJ though, I get frustrated with psuedo-historians like Beck or Barton that want us to ignore the bits on slavery. I even get wanting to say that slavery was part of the era but when they go out and lie and claim that Jefferson was a reluctant slave owner, I do get upset at that because it’s an outright historical lie. Weirdly enough though I’ve started to appreciate Hamilton more as I’ve gotten older.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:52:15pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Scott Walker: We might have to take military action on Day One

washingtonpost.com

Photojournalist: “The Colonel is not crazy. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad.”

He can’t think the unions are that bad, can he?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:55:21pm

It’s hard for me to do since I never lived in those times but that’s the measure I try to judge people on. I.E. why I can give Lincoln a little bit of a pass for not being exactly enlightened on race or understand why someone like Margaret Sanger and many other prominent people were drawn to the eugenics movement. On the flip side, it is why I cannot condone present right wing homophobia and bigotry.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:55:38pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

Per Wonkette:

Former Michigan Rep. John Dingell (D-Badass) is the best congressional Tweeter ever, past, present or future.

wonkette.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 8:56:31pm

re: #238 BeachDem

Per Wonkette:

Former Michigan Rep. John Dingell (D-Badass) is the best congressional Tweeter ever, past, present or future.

wonkette.com

If I am not mistaken. He was the last WWII vet left in Congress.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:04:16pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

“It won eight Oscars that year, including Best Screenplay.”

I just love that movie. Might have to watch it again while it’s on demand at HBO (till the 27th). Just watched it last week, but hey.

I also did a Christopher Guest marathon the other day:
For Your Consideration and Best In Show were on demand, and I have A Mighty Wind on DVD.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:09:11pm

re: #229 Belafon

dailykos.com:

And I’m not all that great at finding stuff I’ve read, but she’s got people out in states like South Carolina already canvassing as well.

I don’t think the Democrats are taking it as lightly as everyone thinks. Sanders is doing a lot of campaigning himself. There should be a lot of good groundwork for whoever wins the nomination.

Yep—I have a Hillary field organizer living with me—she works about 17+ hours a day.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:12:16pm

re: #232 Decatur Deb

I’m having a good bit of trouble finding someone to fall in on here in the AL/FL borderlands. The Dem county organizations from last go-around are MIA.

If you want, I can find out if our state/regional people know what’s going on there—if you’re talking about Hillary peeps.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:16:15pm

re: #242 BeachDem

If you want, I can find out if our state/regional people know what’s going on there—if you’re talking about Hillary peeps.

Yes. Area of interest is Quincy—to—Panama City and Tallahassee and Gainsville (or any place doing student registration).

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:17:13pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

Yes. Area of interest is Quincy—Panama city and Tallahassee and Gainsville (or any place doing student registration).

I will check tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

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WhatEVs  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:22:28pm

re: #70 Jenner7

lol now des moines register calling for trump to drop out. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

And almost every comment there is pro-Trump b

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:24:11pm

re: #244 BeachDem

I will check tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

Great—We had a flexible self-funded team of 10 or so AL Dems that did daytrips and overnighters in 2012. Group seems to have gone quiet since the Nov elections. Wife and I also worked with Tampa and Gainsville Dems on 2012 vacations, but that is going OK.

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Kid A  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:28:09pm

Charles, when I moved my cursor over the Chump balloon, it got bigger. And scarier.

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Saint Stephen  Jul 20, 2015 • 9:58:45pm

re: #55 lawhawk

I just read the NRO article. They start out by calling him a national socialist, then mention Communists an awful lot. It’s a typical arrogant, hate filled conservative article - including as many negative buzzwords as they could throw in.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:01:17pm

re: #248 Saint Stephen

I just read the NRO article. They start out by calling him a national socialist, then mention Communists an awful lot. It’s a typical arrogant, hate filled conservative article - including as many negative buzzwords as they could throw in.

It really is pathetic. This is a man who lost relatives due to Nazism and that pathetic asshole Williamson thinks it’s okay to call him a national socialist. The reality is Sanders’ ideology is nothing like Hitler’s. Sanders isn’t a racist first of all and secondly the Nazis had a cozy relationship with big business and industry. Calling him a Stalinist as they have in the past is nonsense too but they do that because they know their readership thinks every self-described socialist must be like Stalin. Typical crap by a rag started by a McCarthy apologizing Jim Crow supporting unrepentant bigot in William F. Buckley.

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:30:53pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Don’t hold it in like that! Let it out!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:36:51pm

re: #234 Belafon

Here’s one on the first two quotes: google.com

Thanks. I found that one, and the second one is taken out of context, but Jefferson did write it. wiki.monticello.org

Frankly, I’m going to let this email pass. The same friend sends me all these forwarded emails that turn out to be bogus, and I’ve responded in the past pointing out their errors, in the hope she’ll stop and consider before forwarding another. Hasn’t worked yet.

But, one time she did send me an email dissing immigrants, and I shot that down in short order, stating firmly that I was the grandson of immigrants and any criticism of immigrants would be taken very personally. She got that message loud and clear.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:45:32pm

Yep. I, too, am dealing with Twitter’s insistence that my wallpaper on *my Twitter* should be blank instead. Fuckers. My wallpaper on my Twitter is freaking awesome, leave it alone!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:45:33pm

So, it seems there is Discovery channel series called “Naked and Afraid,” kind of like “Man Meets Wild” but without clothes on, and with female companionship.

The naughty bits are blurred out, of course. This is American TV.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:45:41pm

Detectives found more than 1,200 firearms inside a Pacific Palisades home after responding to a report of a dead body inside a vehicle parked outside the house, LAPD announced Monday.

…

Inside, they found more than 1,200 firearms — including handguns, rifles and shotguns — as well as more than 2 tons of ammunition. An LAPD bomb squad was sent to the home to determine that the search was safe to proceed.

Jesus, and here I thought I had a collection.

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The War TARDIS  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:47:59pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

What the hell was he gonna do, create a suburban empire?

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:49:15pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

4000 pounds of ammunition. That’s probably more than all the stockpiles of every law enforcement agency in my county.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:51:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 10:52:26pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:20:45pm

So yesterday, I posted something about how RWNJs have no problem with attacking veterans who don’t agree with them, which of course RWNJs take offense at and then proceed to attack me and my service.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:24:24pm

Additionally, RWNJ have absolutely no sense of when their ridiculous world view is being mocked utterly and completely.

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:27:18pm

re: #260 Kragar

I bet you weren’t surprised in the least.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:29:24pm

re: #259 Kragar

So yesterday, I posted something about how RWNJs have no problem with attacking veterans who don’t agree with them, which of course RWNJs take offense at and then proceed to attack me and my service.

re: #260 Kragar

Additionally, RWNJ have absolutely no sense of when their ridiculous world view is being mocked utterly and completely.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:40:26pm

re: #261 retired cynic

Vercotti: “Everyone was terrified of Doug. I’ve seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.”

Interviewer: “What did he do?”

Vercotti: “He used sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2015 • 11:57:27pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2015 • 12:08:23am

Am I the first to commend Charles’ alliteration in the headline to this article? Nasty Nativist Numbskull Donald Trump.

Uh huh.

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Death Panel Truck  Jul 21, 2015 • 12:18:53am

re: #56 Belafon

Castro is picked by the Democratic nominee.

Not sure I’d be too wild about “Clinton/Castro 2016” on a bumpersticker.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2015 • 1:29:38am

re: #232 Decatur Deb

I’m having a good bit of trouble finding someone to fall in on here in the AL/FL borderlands. The Dem county organizations from last go-around are MIA.

I’m hoping that’s just because they’ve stopped trying and not because they are actually missing. semi/

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freetoken  Jul 21, 2015 • 3:00:45am

This one goes out to all the Democratic primary voters:

MP3 Audio

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nkdee  Jul 21, 2015 • 3:01:09am

re: #42 gwangung

Yep! Someone like Scott Walker.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2015 • 3:51:43am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2015 • 4:30:51am

re: #264 teleskiguy

Schrodinger’s Muybridge’s cat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 4:40:19am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Holy canoli, a friend just forwarded me an email loaded with Thomas Jefferson quotes. Now I have to decide whether debunking them is worth the time and effort. Alouette could probably deal with it in 10 minutes. Me, little longer.

Here are two, which I know are bogus.

monticello.org is your one-stop shop for debunking Jefferson quotes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 4:52:28am

Last night Des Moines Register called on Trump to step down. Trump will get around to calling Des Moines Register “Dummy!” and “Loser!” but he’s not done with McCain yet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 4:54:48am

BWAHAHA
Trump got PWN3D again
Photo is Dr. Jeffrey McDonald

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:04:29am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

monticello.org is your one-stop shop for debunking Jefferson quotes.

Thanks. I found it already, but I don’t have the patience to correct the email she sent. I may just send her the link and let her learn some real history on her own.

Oh, nevermind. monticello.org has a response to the same email she sent me.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:16:22am

re: #265 teleskiguy

Am I the first to commend Charles’ alliteration in the headline to this article? Nasty Nativist Numbskull Donald Trump.

Uh huh.

Reminded me of nattering nabobs of negativism, I assumed that was part of the intent

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:23:42am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

She blames the media. What a courageous response. Really could she be any more pathetic?

Stay tuned.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:32:40am
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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:35:28am

Meanwhile, watch for another gotcha video to drop today claiming all manner of nastiness about PP.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:39:41am

Morning.

Columbus is all Kasich today. Local NBC tv will have a special coverage starting at 10 AM for his announcement at 11AM. Just saw some video of a huge line of people standing outside the OSU student union and High Street along OSU campus filled with media satellite trucks.

And inside a big sign above the stage “Kasich for Us.”

And then tomorrow…Kasich for himself and a few rich guys…and Columbus goes back to being Columbus.

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Franklin  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:43:03am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHA
Trump got PWN3D again
Photo is Dr. Jeffrey McDonald

[Embedded content]

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:45:07am

re: #279 lawhawk

Meanwhile, watch for another gotcha video to drop today claiming all manner of nastiness about PP.

[Embedded content]

I think I’ll wait for them to release the full video and transcript, so we know what it is they cut out of the “final version.”

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:47:00am

re: #282 Targetpractice

I think I’ll wait for them to release the full video and transcript, so we know what it is they cut out of the “final version.”

What they cut: all the facts. Like that they don’t sell fetal tissue, only transfer donations, and are reimbursed for those costs, as any other medical outlet does.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:49:47am

re: #279 lawhawk

Meanwhile, watch for another gotcha video to drop today claiming all manner of nastiness about PP.

[Embedded content]

I watched several minutes. It’s heavily edited and stitched together….yeah, I know, shocking….

I’ll wait for the release of the entire video and transcript.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:52:23am
Nasty Nativist Numbskull Donald Trump

Heh, indeed

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:53:19am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Just speaking for myself, the pseudo-3D look is starting to look cheesy and fake. I’ve always been a fan of simple, clean design, and to me this just makes sense. We don’t need fake raised 3D effects to know it’s a button we can click.

I sorta liked the pseudo-3D. It gave character to the overall look of the page. “We fear change.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:53:37am

re: #279 lawhawk

Meanwhile, watch for another gotcha video to drop today claiming all manner of nastiness about PP.

For $30 Dollars!!!!111

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:56:19am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHA
Trump got PWN3D again
Photo is Dr. Jeffrey McDonald

[Embedded content]

Was looking at the tweet and photo, not seeing what you had posted above it, and was thinking “that guy looks damn familiar, isn’t he that SF Doc that slaughtered his family at Bragg”

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:56:19am

So, is Planned Parent hood going to be constantly attacked now until it is defunded and gone?

Loudmouths will throw fits until they get their way.

And Trump will be going on about the silent majority and yet the real silent majority stays silent and lets the loudmouths walk all over everything with help from the media.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 5:56:35am

re: #251 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Frankly, I’m going to let this email pass. The same friend sends me all these forwarded emails that turn out to be bogus

People still do this? They don’t have FB?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:03:05am

…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:06:15am

re: #256 teleskiguy

4000 pounds of ammunition. That’s probably more than all the stockpiles of every law enforcement agency in my county.

But who’ll be laughing when the zombie horde come knocking … huh … huh … think about it.

// Not too seriously, but think about it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:06:37am

re: #279 lawhawk

Meanwhile, watch for another gotcha video to drop today claiming all manner of nastiness about PP.

I think Okeefe’s acolytes are going to find each of these new BREAKING!! releases getting less and less attention as people begin to understand there isn’t any “selling” going on.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:06:59am
That sound you hear is faux right-wing outrage.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:10:16am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHA
Trump got PWN3D again
Photo is Dr. Jeffrey McDonald

DUMMY!!!

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Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:11:33am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHA
Trump got PWN3D again
Photo is Dr. Jeffrey McDonald

[Embedded content]

He’s such a fucking idiot.
Perfect for the GOP.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:12:21am

Does anyone’s twitter notification feed look different?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:13:09am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

“@kpdelbridge: FOX NEWS-Get your facts straight! Trump did not put down Vets-he put down a clown named McCain! @seanhannity

Not sure The Donald should be using the word “clown”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:13:28am

re: #293 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I think Okeefe’s acolytes are going to find each of these new BREAKING!! releases getting less and less attention as people begin to understand there isn’t any “selling” going on.

Not that it will really matter, as every “release” will simply serve to further stoke the fires under the asses of the GOP. The people who will keep paying attention and keep getting angrier are the people who most want to see the GOP defund PP.

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sffilk  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:13:49am

From what I heard on the news this morning, this poll was taken before the most recent “pontification” from the chump regarding John McCain. We’ll have to wait and see what happens in the next poll.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:14:11am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

Does anyone’s twitter notification feed look different?

It blanked my background screen. Dislike.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:15:52am

re: #300 sffilk

From what I heard on the news this morning, this poll was taken before the most recent “pontification” from the chump regarding John McCain. We’ll have to wait and see what happens in the next poll.

I don’t expect it to do much to kill Trump’s lead. If anything, it might actually boost it amongst the diehards.

Meanwhile, if you look at the field to the right of Jeb, you begin to see where Trump is sucking up all the votes from. The GOP leadership’s “strong” bench is getting cannibalized by the court jester.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:16:02am

re: #290 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

People still do this? They don’t have FB?

She’s got FB, but her friend who sends her these things doesn’t use FB much.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:17:20am

Oh, now my Twitter background is back.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:17:21am

re: #301 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It blanked my background screen. Dislike.

Ditto

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:18:40am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Not that it will really matter, as every “release” will simply serve to further stoke the fires under the asses of the GOP. The people who will keep paying attention and keep getting angrier are the people who most want to see the GOP defund PP.

And then the inevitable

How come lamestream liberal media not paying attention to Planned Parenthood Scandal???!?!?!?

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:22:09am

Really, worst case scenario for the GOP right now is Trump stays strong right through the debate season, and then crashes and burns when the voting actually begins. The screeching from the base that the “moderate” Jeb! or Walker was being “forced” on the base by the leadership would be absolutely biblical.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:25:33am

re: #307 Targetpractice

Really, worst case scenario for the GOP right now is Trump stays strong right through the debate season, and then crashes and burns when the voting actually begins. The screeching from the base that the “moderate” Jeb! or Walker was being “forced” on the base the leadership would be absolutely biblical.

Worst case scenario for the GOP: Trump runs as an independent.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:28:01am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

Worst case scenario for the GOP: Trump runs as an independent.

Yeah, good point. That would be an absolutely dark fucking day for Rinsed Prius, Trump announcing he was launching a self-financed independent bid, ala Perot. There’s pretty much nothing they could threaten him with, and they might actually lose campaign money from people who’d want to see Trump in the White House.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:35:14am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

Worst case scenario for the GOP: Trump runs as an independent.

Right after he lays waste to all the other candidates. Leaving a broken party in the rubble wondering what happened.

And then they hit the repeat cycle and claim they weren’t both conservative enough and welcoming enough.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:46:09am

Good morning from muggy (89% humidity) Southern California. Storm Dolores dropped measurable rain, a rare occurrence in July, and now the ghost of Dolores lingers in the form of overcast. Nice. The dog hid under the bed rather than leave the air conditioning for a walk. That’s how pleasant it is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:46:18am

re: #309 Targetpractice

Yeah, good point. That would be an absolutely dark fucking day for Rinsed Prius, Trump announcing he was launching a self-financed independent bid, ala Perot. There’s pretty much nothing they could threaten him with, and they might actually lose campaign money from people who’d want to see Trump in the White House.

Trump’s got the $$$ (like Perot) to do it - and he’s certainly eccentric enough to do it as well. If he peels off 10% minimum of the GOP base, the Pubbies can kiss their dreams of taking 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goodbye.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:49:52am

Trump is here because the RNC and establishment GOPers refused to denounce the far-right radical extremists over the last 10+ years. They embraced the tea partier’s, the Glenn Beck’s, the Palin’s, the Gohmert’s, the Bachmann’s, etc, because they wanted their vote and backing. The RNC/GOP mainstream preferred power over dignity. They created this monster shit sandwich. Now they get to take a big bite.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:52:31am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

Trump is here because the RNC and establishment GOPers refused to denounce the far-right radical extremists over the last 10+ years. They embraced the tea partier’s, the Glenn Beck’s, the Palin’s, the Gohmert’s, the Bachmann’s, etc, because they wanted their vote and backing. The RNC/GOP mainstream preferred power over dignity. They created this monster shit sandwich. Now they get to take a big bite.

They chummed the waters for years, thinking that the base would remain loyal to their candidates alone, and even attacked campaign finance laws under the assumption that more money would mean an even better chance to blow Democrats out of the water.

But all they’ve done is created a perfect storm for themselves: A self-financed candidate who has no loyalty to the party leadership, has nothing to lose by running, and actually stands to gain in celebrity status. For many in the GOP field, this might their only real shot at the White House. For Trump, it’s just something he’ll file on his taxes come 2017.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:56:24am
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harlequinade  Jul 21, 2015 • 6:58:22am

I don’t know if anyone’s linked this already, but Salon did a great piece on how we’ve ended up with a Donald.

I can see this in politics over here in Europe, too. This could be the UK election, and many of the Scandinavian elections with far right wins.

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Franklin  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:01:54am

Apple Music dead for anyone else (that uses it)? Keep getting errors in iTunes on OSX and the Music.app on iOS8.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:06:55am

And to add to the nightmare of a Trump independent bid is the possibility that he could hurt them further down the ticket. They couldn’t count on the bandwagon effect as much, couldn’t expect that candidates who’d had Bush/Walker stump for them would benefit from being associated with the guy at the top of the ticket. It might actually help third party candidates who can get Trump to stump for them.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:07:31am

re: #316 harlequinade

I don’t know if anyone’s linked this already, but Salon did a great piece on how we’ve ended up with a Donald.

I can see this in politics over here in Europe, too. This could be the UK election, and many of the Scandinavian elections with far right wins.

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. They conclude with a few blurbs about Rand Paul and Ben Carson, of which I ask: Where the hell is Ben Carson? Jebus, has the Trump clown really stolen any and all spotlight from everyone?

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Franklin  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:08:47am
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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:10:20am

re: #319 Dr. Matt

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. They conclude with a few blurbs about Rand Paul and Ben Carson, of which I ask: Where the hell is Ben Carson? Jebus, has the Trump clown really stolen any and all spotlight from everyone?

Pretty much. Like I was pointing out with the poll at the top, everybody to the right of Jeb! is having their milkshake drunk by Trump. Depending on which poll you believe, Carson is barely holding, even though he’s up there with Trump in the polls in Iowa.

It truly is a colossal clusterfuck of a primary season.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:10:32am

Trump is in SC today.

The crowd, however, looks a wee bit aged and white. The GOP core constituency.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:11:57am

Charles…you need to fix your headline thusly:

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:12:41am
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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:13:49am

That “strong” GOP bench is slowly turning into a three-man race, which in reality may be a two-man race if you believe Trump will crash & burn when the voting begins. Short of some major upsets come next spring & summer, it’s either going to be Jeb! or Walker carrying the GOP standard into the RNC.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:13:55am

re: #318 Targetpractice

And to add to the nightmare of a Trump independent bid is the possibility that he could hurt them further down the ticket. They couldn’t count on the bandwagon effect as much, couldn’t expect that candidates who’d had Bush/Walker stump for them would benefit from being associated with the guy at the top of the ticket. It might actually help third party candidates who can get Trump to stump for them.

I would add that Trump’s candidacy will also embolden even more insane and clownish candidates in the future. Although Trump will ultimately fail at his bid, this brief rise he is experiencing is going to make lowbrow candidates believe they have a shot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:15:22am

I am sure that the spin will read that DT only has 24% of the vote while the “mainstream” GOP candidates have the remaining 76%. Don’t know how else they can rationalize these embarrassing developments.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:15:47am

re: #316 harlequinade

I don’t know if anyone’s linked this already, but Salon did a great piece on how we’ve ended up with a Donald.

I can see this in politics over here in Europe, too. This could be the UK election, and many of the Scandinavian elections with far right wins.

From the linked article:

“Voters are basically lazy,” one Nixon media adviser wrote. “Reason requires a high degree of discipline, of concentration; impression is easier. Reason pushes the viewer back, it assaults him, it demands that he agree or disagree; impression can envelop him, invite him in, without making an intellectual demand…. When we argue with him, we… seek to engage his intellect…. The emotions are more easily roused, closer to the surface, more malleable….”

Great article. Democrats tend to be thinkers so our messaging reflects that and fails because we’re in the Dawn of Idiocracy.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:17:03am

re: #322 lawhawk

Trump is in SC today.

The crowd, however, looks a wee bit aged and white. The GOP core constituency.

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Because it kind of goes with the Trump meme…

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:18:19am

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, it seems there is Discovery channel series called “Naked and Afraid,” kind of like “Man Meets Wild” but without clothes on, and with female companionship.

The naughty bits are blurred out, of course. This is American TV.

Discovery was blasting out promos this weekend for some extra-special version of Naked and Afraid where, instead of one couple, there would be 5 or 10 (didn’t pay attention). The funny thing is they bragged that it would be uncensored. Then, they showed clips of the upcoming show, with, as you can guess, the naughty bits blurred out.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:18:19am

Spreadsheet updated to include Twitter accounts and Kasich announcement, which is due to happen in about 12 minutes.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:19:17am
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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:19:47am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:19:49am

re: #319 Dr. Matt

Ben Carson, of which I ask: Where the hell is Ben Carson?

So pre-SCOTUS decisions on Obamacare and the Gay.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:19:51am

And here is where it all started. As an 18 year old, John Kasich wrote Richard Nixon to see if he could get a meeting with Nixon at the White House. Nixon did meet with him (see photo below).

By the way, I’m watching all the Kasich coverage. I am already getting nauseous. I don’t know if I will be able to get to the 11:30 actual announcement.

They have just interviewed Steve Stivers, a local congressmen and he is saying Kasich will be the fresh face with experience at local, state and national levels. Stivers also is saying no one in the Republican party is taking Trump seriously as he is nothing but a side show. That is going to blow up in their faces. They better take him serious as he is seriously screwing up their run for president.

President Richard Nixon meets with then-Ohio State freshman John Kasich in the Oval Office on Dec. 22, 1970. PHOTO COURTESY OF THE WHITE HOUSE
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:20:19am

re: #324 lawhawk

Facts dont matter to right wingers who want to destroy personal choice re: abortion, let alone access to health care

These people are not just opposed to Planned Parenthood, they are opposed to the very idea of planning parenthood

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:20:45am

re: #331 CuriousLurker

Spreadsheet updated to include Twitter accounts and Kasich announcement, which is due to happen in about 12 minutes.

He’s announcing at half-past the hour? Nobody announces at half-past the hour.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:21:29am

Kevin “Women who have abortions should be hanged” Williamson says that Bernie Sanders is a “National Socialist”==>

Then he is like HURR HURR I SAID NATIONAL SOCIALIST NOT NAZI!!!! CAN’T U READ!!!!!!

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:22:09am

re: #328 Higgs Boson’s Mate

From the linked article:

Great article. Democrats tend to be thinkers so our messaging reflects that and fails because we’re in the Dawn of Idiocracy.

“Governor Stevenson, every thinking American will vote for you.”
Adlai Stevenson: “That’s not enough votes to win.”

***

also:

Will Rogers: “I’m not a member of any organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:22:46am

This is one of those times that desperately calls out for the “Hitler Yelling” meme.

“HOW CAN TRUMP BE LEADING THE POLLS?! YOU ASSURED ME HE WAS A JOKE!!!”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:25:53am

re: #332 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Geez, as stupid as when Tamerlan Tsarnaev (the dead Boston Marathon bomber) was buried in a Muslim cemetery on the other side of the county that I live in.

There was OUTRAGE!!1! and some of the Board of Supervisors were making comments until, apparently, someone (probably the county’s lawyer) pointed out that whole First Amendment thing.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:26:08am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:26:23am

re: #330 sizzzzlerz

Discovery was blasting out promos this weekend for some extra-special version of Naked and Afraid where, instead of one couple, there would be 5 or 10 (didn’t pay attention). The funny thing is they bragged that it would be uncensored. Then, they showed clips of the upcoming show, with, as you can guess, the naughty bits blurred out.

If you pay extra, maybe you can get the uncensored versions for download. Woo-hoo!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:29:05am

re: #339 sagehen

Adlai Stevenson is, to me, a model politician. He took the Democratic nomination in 1952 by acclaim: he did not run in a single primary. He was our nominee again in 1956 which pitted him against an insurmountable opponent, Dwight David Eisenhower. Ike was a great president, Stephenson would have been one too.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:29:28am

Well, it is pretty easy to see that the Republicans are all on one page with the talking points on Trump. Everyone being interviewed at this Kasich thing is saying Trump is done, and they all know it was just a matter of time and new polling will show how much Trump is now damaged.

What will they say if in two weeks if Trump is still there and is still enjoying good numbers?

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:31:25am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:31:48am

re: #345 ObserverArt

Well, it is pretty easy to see that the Republicans are all on one page with the talking points on Trump. Everyone being interviewed at this Kasich thing is saying Trump is done, and they all know it was just a matter of time and new polling will show how much Trump is now damaged.

What will they say if in two weeks Trump is still there and is still enjoying good numbers?

That’s when they’ll start to panic.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:32:58am

Mildly inappropriate, but hey, it’s Johnny Knoxville.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:33:30am

re: #345 ObserverArt

Well, it is pretty easy to see that the Republicans are all on one page with the talking points on Trump. Everyone being interviewed at this Kasich thing is saying Trump is done, and they all know it was just a matter of time and new polling will show how much Trump is now damaged.

What will they say if in two weeks Trump is still there and is still enjoying good numbers?

The GOP that went in the Election Day 2012 convinced the public polls were in error and Romney was comfortably in the lead…are sure that Trump is “finished”?

…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:34:23am

re: #342 darthstar

There is a word for people who destroy things without giving any thought to replacing them. “Thug” or “vandal” comes to mind…

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:35:52am
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harlequinade  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:36:08am

That article points to exactly how politics have been run recently - the video about planned parenthood is utter lies. But, as we’ve all said, it doesn’t matter. The lie has become the new reality because “We said so.”

But how do you push back against that?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:36:48am

re: #342 darthstar

Paul looks like Boehner slipped him the name of his spray tan salon.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:37:00am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a word for people who destroy things without giving any thought to replacing them. “Thug” or “vandal” comes to mind…

As one of 16 contenders, it’s a dumb stunt that will get almost no attention. If he (or the eventual candidate) does it after the primaries, it’ll get a week of positive press coverage.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:37:10am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:38:24am

re: #342 darthstar

Reminds me, is Rand Ayn Paul still in the race?

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:39:09am

re: #355 CuriousLurker

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Too late. The wingnutosphere is already all whipped up HURR HURR OBAMA IS GIVIN IRAN ALL TEH NUKE BOMBEZ!!!!!!!

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CuriousLurker  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:41:04am

re: #357 The Vicious Babushka

Too late. The wingnutosphere is already all whipped up HURR HURR OBAMA IS GIVIN IRAN ALL TEH NUKE BOMBEZ!!!!!!!

I know they’re impervious to facts, but we can still strive to be informed.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:41:05am

It speaks:

Sen. McCain dedicated his life to serving our country, and in my humble opinion the sacrifices made by all ethical service members are heroic — putting it all on the line to defend freedom IS heroic — and Donald Trump is a hero in another arena.
Read more at wonkette.com

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:42:09am

Honestly, do Trump supporters really, really think he would be a good [and viable] president or are they just sheeple wanking off to his vile and hateful rhetoric?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:42:16am

re: #359 darthstar

ethical service members

?

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makeitstop  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:42:30am

re: #342 darthstar

I just wish Donald Trump would stop sucking up all of the oxygen from the serious candidates.

That’s pretty much the political equivalent of a Cal Worthington TV commercial.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:45:00am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

Honestly, do Trump supporters really, really think he would be a good [and viable] president or are they just sheeple wanking off to his vile and hateful rhetoric?

Yes.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:45:25am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Yes.

Bravo. :)

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:45:28am

Ohhhh. Now they are interviewing a couple from Chicago here in Columbus to see “a winner!” The woman is saying Kasich is the only candidate that can bring everyone…conservatives, liberals, independents, evangelicals, atheists…together. Unlike some of the fakes (Trump).

There are the protesters outside the union too. They were across the street from the OSU student union but are now moved to the side of the building. Probably getting a little two loud.

Also, the Ohio Democratic Party leader is making a deal out of the fact that Kasich isn’t being forthcoming on who is going to be paying for all his campaign security especially when he is on the road and outside the state. The Dems are saying the Ohio taxpayers are paying and Kasich isn’t being truthful. A local state Rep (my area) is introducing a bill saying Ohio will not pay for Kasich security if it has anything to do with his campaign.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:45:35am

re: #359 darthstar

all ethical service members

Que?
“Simmons!”
“Sir?”
“Take your squad and ethically kill the fuck out of that sniper on yonder hill.”

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Kid A  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:46:02am

More “evidence” has emerged…

SHE SAYS SHE WANTS A LAMBORGHINI!!!!

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CuriousLurker  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:48:08am

LOL

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:48:33am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

Honestly, do Trump supporters really, really think he would be a good [and viable] president or are they just sheeple wanking off to his vile and hateful rhetoric?

Better than Obummer who killed America and Constitution and all lazy moochers taking gov benefits and give Iran weapon!!!!

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:48:51am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

?

Ethical service members are the ones Obama doesn’t rescue.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:50:40am

re: #363 makeitstop

That’s pretty much the political equivalent of a Cal Worthington TV commercial.

Get a new car for your wife
She will love you all her life
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal.

Loved those commercials in the 80s.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:51:08am

Oh great. They are saying close Kasich political confidant John Sununu is going to be on stage. Uggh. And maybe a famous Ohio State Buckeye too. I hope it’s not Buckeye football coach Urban Meyer, but it would not surprise me.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:51:46am

re: #372 darthstar

Get a new car for your wife
She will love you all her life
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal.

Loved those commercials in the 80s.

He’ll eat a bug.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:51:58am

re: #372 darthstar

Get a new car for your wife
She will love you all her life
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal.

Loved those commercials in the 80s.

…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:54:07am

LOL I just got followed by someone whose profile says “admirer of E. Snowden, Sophie Scholl, John Brown, and Nat Turner”

One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn’t belong.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:54:22am

re: #372 darthstar

Get a new car for your wife
She will love you all her life
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal,
Go see Cal.

Loved those commercials in the 80s.

…

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JadeHelmCurious  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:58:52am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 7:59:36am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re: #359 darthstar
ethical service members
?

I’m guessing not Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl or gay & trans service members serving at least prior to the ban being lifted

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:01:00am
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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:01:44am

Yuck. Mike DeWine, Ohio attorney general being interviewed. Now I am sick. DeWine also saying Trump sucked the air out of the room over the last week or so, but that will only last another week or so.

One thing I have noticed, Kasich managed to get johnkasich.com for his web site. And it looks like the site is showing some coverage of Kasich’s announcement. They probably will have it live if anyone wants to watch.

Kasich Kickoff Live

And they are playing The White Stripes “Seven Nation Army” now. I wonder if he got rights to that?

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:02:03am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart

I’m guessing not Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl or gay & trans service members serving at least prior to the ban being lifted

Sarah Palin brought us the advent of qualifying which service members deserve our respect.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:03:08am

re: #380 darthstar

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HURR HURR MEDIA MATTERS CAN’T READ!!!!! I NEVER SAID NAZI ANYWHERE EVER!!!!!!

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:03:45am

Yay! My town made the map! (didn’t feel it) Two inches left of the star, above Half Moon Bay.

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bratwurst  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:04:56am
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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:05:34am

And there is the famous Ohio State Buckeye at the Kasich gig…Archie Griffin. That figures. Arch is a big man on campus and works for the University.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:07:04am

re: #386 ObserverArt

And there is the famous Ohio State Buckeye at the Kasich gig…Archie Griffin. That figures. Arch is a big man on campus and works for the University.

I thought the Buckeyes were from Iowa.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:07:30am

re: #387 darthstar

I thought the Buckeyes were from Iowa.

That’s the Hawkeyes.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:07:51am

Did anyone happen to grab a screen shot of the Donald’s retweet of the Jeff MacDonald troll?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:08:31am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

Did anyone happen to grab a screen shot of the Donald’s retweet of the Jeff MacDonald troll?

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Kid A  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:08:51am

$50 donation to Planned Parenthood. Done. Fight these miserable liars; no apologies; too much is at stake.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:10:39am

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

That’s the Hawkeyes.

Those two states are pretty much interchangeable to me. Iowa’s full of jesus freak conservatives who gain national relevance every four years and Ohio gets to be called in elections whenever its delegates will tip the scales one way or the other, but not when they’re actually ready to be called…pretty fucking insecure on both counts.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:13:20am

Gotta say…this is a pretty slick event. They are doing it right. I still think many will be surprised by Kasich’s run.

And yes, I still hate Kasich. But he is a hell of a politician as far as being a politician goes. This event shows his planning and his backing at least on a local level. And remember. Ohio is a huge swing state and now they are going to have someone in the race.

That’s it for my local coverage. It’s all national from here. Later!

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:15:31am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Trump said something new and stupid, which means that Kaisch’s announcement just got buried.

If you can’t get more than a few moments of free press at this stage, you’re screwed and fighting uphill.

All the GOPers are fighting uphill as the discussion is all Trump centric - how they compare to him, not good for any in the GOP.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:17:40am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Gotta say…this is a pretty slick event. They are doing it right. I still think many will be surprised by Kasich’s run.

And yes, I still hate Kasich. But he is a hell of a politician as far as being a politician goes. This event shows his planning and his backing at least on a local level. And remember. Ohio is a huge swing state and now they are going to have someone in the race.

That’s it for my local coverage. It’s all national from here. Later!

I don’t doubt it.

Smarter than Walker. Not as obnoxious as Christie. Not named Bush.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:18:49am

re: #394 lawhawk

Trump said something new and stupid, which means that Kaisch’s announcement just got buried.

If you can’t get more than a few moments of free press at this stage, you’re screwed and fighting uphill.

All the GOPers are fighting uphill as the discussion is all Trump centric - how they compare to him, not good for any in the GOP.

Yeah, I was gonna say if Kasich had announced before Trump, he might have had a chance. Now? He’s dogmeat, he’ll be lucky if he’s polling higher than Carson in time for the Fox Debate.

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JadeHelmCurious  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:19:07am

re: #384 darthstar

Right where I lived before I moved to Hawaii. Sorry I caused it by leaving 11 years ago, my bad.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:19:35am

re: #393 ObserverArt

Gotta say…this is a pretty slick event. They are doing it right. I still think many will be surprised by Kasich’s run.

And yes, I still hate Kasich. But he is a hell of a politician as far as being a politician goes. This event shows his planning and his backing at least on a local level. And remember. Ohio is a huge swing state and now they are going to have someone in the race.

That’s it for my local coverage. It’s all national from here. Later!

Honestly, I’d welcome a reasonably sane candidate on the GOP side. Bush isn’t it. Rubio isn’t it. Cruz definitely isn’t it.

Where’s Dark Falcon? He knows which candidate isn’t completely batshit crazy.

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Kid A  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:21:17am

The lies coming from the right regarding this new video is breathtaking.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:22:21am

re: #398 darthstar

Pataki isn’t completely off the rails, but it would be lucky to poll 5% in NYS. Christie isn’t as extreme as the rest of the GOP, but he’s also barely rating in the polls and wouldn’t get elected again in NJ, even if he could run.

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makeitstop  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:23:05am

re: #394 lawhawk

Trump said something new and stupid, which means that Kaisch’s announcement just got buried.

Oy. Not paying attention. What now?

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:26:41am

re: #392 darthstar

Those two states are pretty much interchangeable to me. Iowa’s full of jesus freak conservatives who gain national relevance every four years and Ohio gets to be called in elections whenever its delegates will tip the scales one way or the other, but not when they’re actually ready to be called…pretty fucking insecure on both counts.

You obviously have that “fly over’ attitude down.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:26:59am

re: #401 makeitstop

Oy. Not paying attention. What now?

Or, combing through a bunch of retweets is this gem:

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:31:44am

OT, but important for the photographers out there who may use Costco or other online services to print photos or do other photo-related work:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:35:09am

re: #403 lawhawk

He gave arms to Islamic terrorists”

Huh?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:36:03am

re: #375 darthstar

…

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:37:36am

re: #405 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Huh?

Let’s see if I remember my “Idiot” language class…

That would be “McCain ran a poor campaign that allowed the crypto-Muslim Obama to win the election so that he could provide weapons to his fundamentalist/terrorist brethren. This is obviously McCain’s fault.”

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:37:38am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:38:04am

re: #403 lawhawk

McCain was so bad he gave us Obama.

And know how bad that’s been.
////

Maybe Trump could discuss McCain’s VP choice.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:39:12am

re: #407 William Lewis

Let’s see if I remember my “Idiot” language class…

That would be “McCain ran a poor campaign that allowed the crypto-Muslim Obama to win the election so that he could provide weapons to his fundamentalist/terrorist brethren. This is obviously McCain’s fault.”

I realize it’s Trump but….

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:39:23am

re: #402 ObserverArt

You obviously have that “fly over’ attitude down.

I pride myself in my coastal superiority. (I do try to be as over-the-top as possible in talking about the bring a jello-mold to the potluck states as I can, however…I do have friends there.)

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:40:54am

On the plus side, that itchy ankle isn’t a problem anymore.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:43:02am

re: #402 ObserverArt

You obviously have that “fly over’ attitude down.

On the other hand, if California had its primary in January Iowa would lose all that revenue.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:44:26am

re: #412 darthstar

On the plus side, that itchy ankle isn’t a problem anymore.

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Kilroy01  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:45:31am

re: #414 Targetpractice

That cat looks seriously stoned..

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withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:47:30am

re: #411 darthstar

I pride myself in my coastal superiority. (I do try to be as over-the-top as possible in talking about the bring a jello-mold to the potluck states as I can, however…I do have friends there.)

Feel free to talk shit about Iowa as much as you please. ///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:49:17am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

ethical service members

?

Jeremy Morlock. Palin and Morlock families are very close. Palin now likes to pretend Jeremy never existed.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:50:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:52:31am

re: #391 Kid A

$50 donation to Planned Parenthood. Done. Fight these miserable liars; no apologies; too much is at stake.

Why not just send them some dead baby parts to sell?

////

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:52:40am

re: #415 Kilroy01

…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:53:35am

re: #418 lawhawk

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:54:46am

Welp, I better reconsider my retirement options.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:57:05am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

Welp, I better reconsider my retirement options.

RT: South F Scientists Fear Mass Exodus As Sea Level Rise Worsens Coastal erosion,flooding already]

yes, you don’t want to retire to a region where leftist agenda-driven scientists spread panic…

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Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:57:31am

John Kasich is on mah teevee here at work bleating about how he’s the one to restore America to its greatness.

Thank SRV for earbuds and Spotify. If had to listen to this goober, I’d probably throw things.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 8:59:39am

re: #412 darthstar

On the plus side, that itchy ankle isn’t a problem anymore.

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On the minus side, a facepalm could be fatal.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:01:05am

re: #425 Higgs Boson’s Mate

On the minus side, a facepalm could be fatal.

or at least dislocate a hip

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Khal Wimpo  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:01:22am

In other news, the LAPD finds a guy decomposing behind the wheel of his car in the street. Inside his house: 1,200 guns and tons of ammo.

Old, frightened, and probably watching “Doomsday Preppers” 24/7. Dies anyway.

More than 1,200 guns were strewn about the Palisades Drive house and garage, police said. The weapons ranged from high-end pistols to shotguns and rifles. Many had never been fired. Some were still wrapped in their boxes, with the price tags still attached.

It was a “staggering number of guns,” said LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith. Police also found roughly two tons of ammunition.

The unusual discovery came as police investigated the death of the man, whose decomposing body was found in a car parked down the street from his home.

I propose an alternate headline: Sad & lonely teapartier substitutes GUNZ!! for family, friends. Dies, and nobody notices. Nor cares. Cops laugh at his corpse, take all the GUNZ!! away.

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withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:01:44am

I wish each of these candidates would give us an honest answer as to what they think is “ungreat” about America at this point in time. Double bonus points if they can do so without mentioning the current administration.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:02:05am

re: #424 Lidane

John Kasich is on mah teevee here at work bleating about how he’s the one to restore America to its greatness.

Thank SRV for earbuds and Spotify. If had to listen to this goober, I’d probably throw things.

Ha. If Kasich is a goober what do you call the crazy-ass politicians in Texas?

I’d take Kasich over Perry or Cruz any day. Any. Day. And yes…I’ll be voting Democrat. But choose your poisons.

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withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:02:46am

re: #429 ObserverArt

Nate Silver was calling him Huntsman 2.0; is that an accurate comparison?

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:04:44am

re: #430 withak

Nate Silver was calling him Huntsman 2.0; is that an accurate comparison?

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withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:05:18am

re: #427 Khal Wimpo

In other news, the LAPD finds a guy decomposing behind the wheel of his car in the street. Inside his house: 1,200 guns and tons of ammo.

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I propose an alternate headline: Sad & lonely teapartier substitutes GUNZ!! for family, friends. Dies, and nobody notices. Nor cares. Cops laugh at his corpse, take all the GUNZ!! away.

1,200 guns seems like a lot, even for a delusional doomsday prepper or wannabe soverign-citizen type. I won’t be surprised to find out that there’s smuggling or other criminal activity involved, but who knows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:05:45am

re: #429 ObserverArt

Ha. If Kasich is a goober what do you call the crazy-ass politicians in Texas?

I’d take Kasich over Perry or Cruz any day. Any. Day. And yes…I’ll be voting Democrat. But choose your poisons.

I really don’t wanna vote for Hilary, but I see nobody among the GOP candidates that would even consider for more that a half second.

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Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:06:08am

re: #429 ObserverArt

Ha. If Kasich is a goober what do you call the crazy-ass politicians in Texas?

Assholes. It’s simple and to the point. :)

I’d take Kasich over Perry or Cruz any day. Any. Day. And yes…I’ll be voting Democrat. But choose your poisons.

I’d take Kasich over Cruz. Of course, I’d take a drug-free root canal and wisdom tooth extraction over Cruz. Heh.

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Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:07:21am

re: #427 Khal Wimpo

In other news, the LAPD finds a guy decomposing behind the wheel of his car in the street. Inside his house: 1,200 guns and tons of ammo.

[Embedded content]

I propose an alternate headline: Sad & lonely teapartier substitutes GUNZ!! for family, friends. Dies, and nobody notices. Nor cares. Cops laugh at his corpse, take all the GUNZ!! away.

Literal tons of ammunition.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:07:26am

re: #430 withak

Nate Silver was calling him Huntsman 2.0; is that an accurate comparison?

Yeah. He is a republican, but he is more realistic than most. If anyone is watching, you can see he is a bit more on the positive side than Walker and others. That is why I think people will be surprised by his run. But the fact that he is a realistic pol may cost him like it cost Huntsman.

I guess we are going to find out in short time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:07:39am

Senior moment here.

Last week I mentioned that one day of Twitter was THE WORST, THE WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN IN EVER and now I can’t even remember if the Derpsplosion was about the fake Planned Parenthood video or the Iran negotiation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:09:00am
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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:09:21am

re: #434 Lidane

Assholes. It’s simple and to the point. :)

I’d take Kasich over Cruz. Of course, I’d take a drug-free root canal and wisdom tooth extraction over Cruz. Heh.

Hahahahaaaa. I like your attitude.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:09:43am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

Senior moment here.

Last week I mentioned that one day of Twitter was THE WORST, THE WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN IN EVER and now I can’t even remember if the Derpsplosion was about the fake Planned Parenthood video or the Iran negotiation.

Were either of those days worse than wingnut Twitter on Bowie Bergdahl day?

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:09:43am
It must have been somebody’s last day at work.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:10:05am

re: #441 darthstar

What’s UpChuck doing at Popeyes?

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Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:10:14am

re: #434 Lidane

Assholes. It’s simple and to the point. :)

I’d take Kasich over Cruz. Of course, I’d take a drug-free root canal and wisdom tooth extraction over Cruz. Heh.

Would you rather shoot your left or right foot???
/

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:11:01am

re: #416 withak

Feel free to talk shit about Iowa as much as you please. ///

Thanks…I suppose I should be grateful to Ohio for giving us John Boehner…again…and again…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:12:10am

The #tcot reaction to Kasich is like meh.

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Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:12:21am

Ahh. Much better. I’m avoiding Kasich’s bleating with a soundtrack of Bruce Springsteen. Listening to The Rising album again.

I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of this album.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:12:33am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

A few more hurricanes, and most of Florida’s coast will be underwater permanently.

I wonder how gators feel about the ocean moving in. I see another movie premise coming: sharks vs. gators.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:12:52am

re: #432 withak

1,200 guns seems like a lot, even for a delusional doomsday prepper or wannabe soverign-citizen type. I won’t be surprised to find out that there’s smuggling or other criminal activity involved, but who knows.

Before the days of background checks there were shit-tons of dirt cheap surplus firearms and ammunition for sale and you could walk out of the store with as many of them as you could afford. I knew a couple of guys who bought hundreds of guns and loads of ammo figuring that the lot would appreciate in value.

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:13:05am

re: #434 Lidane

Assholes. It’s simple and to the point. :)

I’d take Kasich over Cruz. Of course, I’d take a drug-free root canal and wisdom tooth extraction over Cruz. Heh.

I haven’t used novocaine at the dentist in years. After my wisdom teeth came out, I decided I was done with pain killers. I find ten minutes of writhing in the chair without numbing far better than the two hours of drooling zombie face I feel like I have after when I do have it.

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Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:13:37am

re: #443 Varek Raith

Would you rather shoot your left or right foot???
/

Neither, but I’ll gladly aim at the beast living on Trump’s head. It’s scary.

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withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:14:15am

re: #448 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Before the days of background checks there were shit-tons of dirt cheap surplus firearms and ammunition for sale and you could walk out of the store with as many of them as you could afford. I knew a couple of guys who bought hundreds of guns and loads of ammo figuring that the lot would appreciate in value.

Invest in bitcoin gold guns!

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darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:15:03am

re: #446 Lidane

Ahh. Much better. I’m avoiding Kasich’s bleating with a soundtrack of Bruce Springsteen. Listening to The Rising album again.

I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of this album.

Speaking of which, I wonder what bands Kasich used for his rally and how long it will be before they send him a cease and desist letter regarding the use of their music.

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ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:15:09am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I really don’t wanna vote for Hilary, but I see nobody among the GOP candidates that would even consider for more that a half second.

I’ll say it over and over. Votes for President are more than about the personality of one person. Hillary is not perfect, but she still represents the middle to left no matter what. With a Hillary we still get some protection from the crazy RWNJs and the Fundies. And then there is the veto power against Congress, Supreme Court and Federal Judge selections…and so much more. People have to remember that. You are voting for a party and a style of how the country will be run…not just Hillary.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:16:02am

re: #427 Khal Wimpo

In other news, the LAPD finds a guy decomposing behind the wheel of his car in the street. Inside his house: 1,200 guns and tons of ammo.

[Embedded content]

I propose an alternate headline: Sad & lonely teapartier substitutes GUNZ!! for family, friends. Dies, and nobody notices. Nor cares. Cops laugh at his corpse, take all the GUNZ!! away.

And the wingnuts were worried about Obama taking all the guns away. This one guy made it his hobby.

455
Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:16:44am

re: #449 darthstar

I haven’t used novocaine at the dentist in years. After my wisdom teeth came out, I decided I was done with pain killers. I find ten minutes of writhing in the chair without numbing far better than the two hours of drooling zombie face I feel like I have after when I do have it.

Using painkillers = free day off from work. Heh.

Hell, I go one step further. I go to a sedation dentist. Knock me out and do whatever you have to do. Funny how I don’t have a problem with the dentist if I’m drugged to the gills through it all. ;)

456
lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:16:57am

Cruz says he’s going to demand defunding Planned Parenthood.

That would require him actually showing up to do his damned job as a US Senator.

And as a reminder - this is yet another bogus video.

457
ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:16:59am

re: #445 The Vicious Babushka

The #tcot reaction to Kasich is like meh.

That already shows Kasich is more realistic and more moderate than the nutbags.

458
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:17:26am

re: #443 Varek Raith

Would you rather shoot your left or right foot???
/

They don’t say which.

459
Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:17:32am

re: #454 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And the wingnuts were worried about Obama taking all the guns away. This one guy made it his hobby.

My city’s PD doesn’t have that many guns or ammo. O_o

460
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:17:38am

re: #451 withak

Invest in bitcoin gold guns!

Your great, great grandchildren will be rich when they sell off that travel trailer full of 8mm Mauser bolt action WWII battle rifles!

461
trumpetman  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:17:58am

re: #407 William Lewis

I actually think Trump is saying that McCain gave arms to terrorists. Everyone remembers the photo of McCain with people affiliated with ISIL when he traveled to Syria to meet some of the rebels.

462
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:18:58am

We’re fucked. We’re all gonna die.

463
Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:21:33am

re: #359 darthstar

It speaks:

I wonder why she felt the need to preface service members with “ethical”? Leave room to trash those that don’t agree with her and her ilk, thus labeling them unethical?

464
freetoken  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:21:52am

re: #462 The Vicious Babushka

Chris Mooney covered Hansen et. al. paper yesterday, and brought in some much needed skepticism from leading scientists in glaciology and climate.

Undoubtedly sea levels will rise, but trying to predict how quickly may be a bit of folly. Long term rise, over millennia, will be quite large but trying predict sea level rise on a decadal basis may not be possible.

465
Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:22:21am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

?

Exactly.

466
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:23:40am

And sure enough, here is Trump’s DUMMY!!!!! LOSER!!!!! screed against the Des Moines Register

467
ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:23:51am

MSNBC is showing Trump in South Carolina.

He does not appear to be a wounded animal. He’s is running on the controversy he created and is ripping Perry, Graham and it appears everyone that has bagged on him over the McCain remarks.

He is not going away any time soon.

468
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:23:52am

re: #464 freetoken

Chris Mooney covered Hansen et. al. paper yesterday, and brought in some much needed skepticism from leading scientists in glaciology and climate.

Undoubtedly sea levels will rise, but trying to predict how quickly may be a bit of folly. Long term rise, over millennia, will be quite large but trying predict sea level rise on a decadal basis may not be possible.

In other words, you can retire in Florida, unless you’re planning to live longer than a few hundred years.

469
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:24:27am

re: #464 freetoken

Chris Mooney covered Hansen et. al. paper yesterday, and brought in some much needed skepticism from leading scientists in glaciology and climate.

Undoubtedly sea levels will rise, but trying to predict how quickly may be a bit of folly. Long term rise, over millennia, will be quite large but trying predict sea level rise on a decadal basis may not be possible.

So I can still retire to be with my people in Miami Beach?

470
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:25:05am

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

And sure enough, here is Trumps DUMMY!!!!! LOSER!!!!! screen against the Des Moines Register

[Embedded content]

“Iowa, a state whose people I have truly gotten to know and love….”

Sure

471
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:26:25am

re: #467 ObserverArt

MSNBC is showing Trump in South Carolina.

He does not appear to be a wounded animal. He’s is running on the controversy he created and is ripping Perry, Graham and it appears everyone that has bagged on him over the McCain remarks.

He is not going away any time soon.

Please proceed….

472
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:26:31am

re: #463 Eventual Carrion

I wonder why she felt the need to preface service members with “ethical”? Leave room to trash those that don’t agree with her and her ilk, thus labeling them unethical?

Just as she divided us into “Americans,” and “Real Americans.” The paucity of GOP pols who are also veterans makes it necessary to open up a line of attack on anyone else who served.

473
freetoken  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:27:09am

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

All newspapers have lost a great deal of business.

At least the DMR has remained in business and hasn’t been sucked up into a hate-right mega-corp.

I think Trump is really taking cues from his friend Vince McMahon. There’s nothing quite like some good heel heat to drive business.

474
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:27:23am

re: #472 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Just as she divided us into “Americans,” and “Real Americans.” The paucity of GOP pols who are also veterans makes it necessary to open up a line of attack on anyone else who served.

All Republicans who are nice to her are heroes, all Democrat Party are not heroes.

//

475
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:28:08am

re: #467 ObserverArt

MSNBC is showing Trump in South Carolina.

He does not appear to be a wounded animal. He’s is running on the controversy he created and is ripping Perry, Graham and it appears everyone that has bagged on him over the McCain remarks.

He is not going away any time soon.

Donald Trump failed to be contrite? Never saw that one coming.

476
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:28:36am

HURR HURR I’M PRO-LIFE BUT DON’T TAKE AWAY MUH GUNZ FOR SHOOTING PEOPLE!!!!!

477
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:29:38am

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

And sure enough, here is Trumps DUMMY!!!!! LOSER!!!!! screen against the Des Moines Register

Embedded Image

The Register probably reported the actual number of attendants, instead of the imaginary number in Trump’s head hair.

He’s basically saying he wants every newspaper to print exactly what he and his staff say. American journalism still doesn’t work that way, despite its many flaws. Sorry, Donald.

478
Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:29:58am

So the White House is lowering the flags for the Chattanooga shooting.

Fox News has predictably switched from WHY DOES OBUMMER HATE MURICA?! WHY WON’T HE LOWER THE FLAG? to WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG? AND WHY DID HE HONOR RAMADAN BUT NOT MURICA BEFORE NOW?

These people are obnoxious.

479
freetoken  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:30:22am

re: #469 The Vicious Babushka

So I can still retire to be with my people in Miami Beach?

Well, if Florida keeps electing people like Scott, you might want to avoid Florida for reasons other than sea level rise.

480
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:30:29am
481
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:31:41am

re: #480 darthstar

[Embedded content]

You can tell by the white skin around Trump’s eyes that he wears goggles in the tanning booth.

Glasses wouldn’t make him look smart.

Maybe if he shaved his head.

482
BeachDem  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:31:54am

re: #366 ObserverArt

There are the protesters outside the union too. They were across the street from the OSU student union but are now moved to the side of the building. Probably getting a little two loud.

Maybe this is why—per Plunderbund from last night:
John Kasich Bans OSU Students From His Presidential Announcement At OSU

At 10:05 this evening Kasich’s campaign sent out emails to multiple Ohio State students informing them that they would no longer be allowed to attend the Kasich event.

According to the emails, each student’s “ticket for the July 21st Special Announcement Event in Columbus has been cancelled and is no longer valid for entry.”

plunderbund.com

483
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:33:55am

re: #482 BeachDem

Maybe this is why—per Plunderbund from last night:
John Kasich Bans OSU Students From His Presidential Announcement At OSU

At 10:05 this evening Kasich’s campaign sent out emails to multiple Ohio State students informing them that they would no longer be allowed to attend the Kasich event.

According to the emails, each student’s “ticket for the July 21st Special Announcement Event in Columbus has been cancelled and is no longer valid for entry.”

plunderbund.com

Heh, an enemies list or a general ban on all students with tickets?

484
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:34:23am

re: #480 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Now he’s just stealing Jon Stewart’s shtick

485
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:34:57am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR I’M PRO-LIFE BUT DON’T TAKE AWAY MUH GUNZ FOR SHOOTING PEOPLE!!!!!

I hope these PP videos don’t restrict my access to dead baby parts that I love so much to have and look at.

///

486
BeachDem  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:35:40am

re: #371 darthstar

Ethical service members are the ones Obama doesn’t rescue.

Like Allen West

From 2012:

Sarah Palin says there’s one name at the top of her list if the Republican Party wants to “go rogue” in its pick for the vice presidential nominee: Rep. Allen West.

politico.com

487
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:35:57am

re: #485 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I hope these PP videos don’t restrict my access to dead baby parts that I love so much to have and look at.

///

488
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:36:13am
489
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:36:39am

re: #420 GlutenFreeJesus

Utterly perfect that that was comment number 420.

490
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:36:42am

re: #481 The Vicious Babushka

You can tell by the white skin around Trump’s eyes that he wears goggles in the tanning booth.

Glasses wouldn’t make him look smart.

Maybe if he shaved his head.

Maybe if he shaved his ass and learned to walk on his hands.

491
ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:00am

re: #480 darthstar

Lynox Rolfe Norman
‏@rolfenorman

Donald Trump says former Governor Rick Perry wears glasses to look smart.

#Vote2016

He’s stabbing everyone and anything in sight.

You know, it is getting fun in a sick way watching the political media trying to figure Trump out. He is not doing anything in a traditional way and it has them all stumped. They keep saying Trump will be done in short order. I’m getting the feeling he will be turning predictions like that into more campaign jabber.

“They ALL want me gone. But you all want me right?”

And then they cheer…and he goes on and on…

492
freetoken  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:11am

Looks like Ben is going to follow Cruz’s lead:

Ben Carson defends Donald Trump

Retired neurosurgeon and presidential candidate Ben Carson said Tuesday that he thinks the focus on Donald Trump’s recent incendiary comments is “petty” and that the real estate mogul has no reason to drop out of the 2016 race.

“For us to get caught up in a controversy of well, ‘What did Donald Trump mean when he said that?’ — It just seems so petty to me,” Carson told reporters after speaking to a group of teenage Republicans in Arlington, Va.

Several Republican presidential contenders have said Trump should be disqualified from the presidential race for saying that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is not a war hero. Carson disagreed.

“I’m not sure from listening to what he said that he think that Mr. McCain is not a hero,” Carson said. “He has repeatedly said yes, he is a hero, so I don’t know where that comes from that he’s disqualified.”

[…]

493
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:27am

Some wingnut posted this so I had to respond

494
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:32am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Has Dana stopped beating her husband?

495
Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:47am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Dana, if it’s not a lie, then why would they need to edit the video?

496
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:37:52am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart

Now he’s just stealing Jon Stewart’s shtick

He’s hitting everyone, which means everyone gets a little bit of media coverage.

497
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:39:06am

re: #492 freetoken

Looks like Ben is going to follow Cruz’s lead:

Carson then spent the balance of the day attempting to hum “Hail to the Vice-Chief.”

498
Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:39:18am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

“black market baby parts”? WTF is she lying about?

499
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:40:19am
500
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:42:43am
501
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:43:46am

LOLWHUT

502
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:45:27am
503
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:46:44am
504
Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:47:00am

re: #467 ObserverArt

MSNBC is showing Trump in South Carolina.

He does not appear to be a wounded animal. He’s is running on the controversy he created and is ripping Perry, Graham and it appears everyone that has bagged on him over the McCain remarks.

He is not going away any time soon.

He’ll be in it as long as he’s willing to keep spending his money.

505
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:47:20am
506
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:47:33am

Does that include all the flags with his logo?

507
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:47:44am

A Florida gun store has banned Muslims from their business. And they even brag about selling a gun oil that’s 13% pig fat. Lame.

m.nydailynews.com

508
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:48:03am
509
retired cynic  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:48:07am

Excellent interview with Christopher Dickey on NPR about his new book about the Civil War, and the re-emergence of the confederate battle flag. Pulls NO punches.

510
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:49:36am

re: #506 The Vicious Babushka

Nuts re: Obama - WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

Re: Trump - TRUE PATRIOT!

511
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:49:37am
512
lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:50:32am

How soon before the first WI soldier shoots themselves or others accidentally or on purpose? Because the reason that the military doesn’t want everyone armed on their bases is because most people in uniform aren’t qualified to shoot in these situations.

513
retired cynic  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:50:52am

re: #509 retired cynic

It was on Here and Now.

514
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:54:46am

Interesting.

515
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:55:24am

re: #514 darthstar

Interesting.

[Embedded content]

So he’s a Luddite

516
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:56:38am
517
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:56:53am

re: #512 lawhawk

518
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:58:42am
519
lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:59:33am
520
darthstar  Jul 21, 2015 • 9:59:38am
521
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:02:03am
522
Jenner7  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:03:56am

Okay, just finished Obama speak at VFW. Now, on to Trump’s…whatever you call it. Next, The Daily Show and finally, cleaning my house. Priorities, guys. :)

523
Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:04:24am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hail Hydra!

//

524
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:04:27am

re: #512 lawhawk

Let’s arm all black church-goers too!

525
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:04:53am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

HAIL HYDRA!!!!!

526
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:05:05am

re: #523 Targetpractice

Dammit.

527
lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:06:33am

re: #523 Targetpractice

Hail Hydra!

//

Cut off its moon, two more grow back.

528
lawhawk  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:06:59am

re: #524 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s arm all black church-goers too!

That’s a second amendment solution too far. /rwnjs

529
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:09:34am

Blasto From The Pasto

530
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:12:06am

re: #529 The Vicious Babushka

If men bore the children the morning after pill would be sold in vending machines.

531
Kragar  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:12:44am
532
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:13:26am
533
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:13:35am

re: #480 darthstar

Donald Trump says former Governor Rick Perry wears glasses to look smart

sometimes you gotta agree with the Trump on sumpin’

534
Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:13:49am

Here is the voice message when you dial Lindsey Graham’s phone number

535
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:15:00am

re: #534 Dr. Matt

Here is the voice message when you dial Lindsey Graham’s phone number

Damn you

536
Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:15:01am

re: #532 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Which is his way of saying “Trump is a Democratic plant!”

537
Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:15:45am

re: #535 FormerDirtDart

Damn you

It’s the actually the first time I have ever done that. :)

538
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:16:16am

re: #534 Dr. Matt

Here is the voice message when you dial Lindsey Graham’s phone number

I didn’t click that. Rickroll?

539
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:16:20am

re: #531 Kragar

[Embedded content]

According to the Washington Post, police recovered what may have been a privately-owned gun belonging to one of the deceased Chattanooga military members at the scene.

540
Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:17:34am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

I didn’t click that. Rickroll?


Noooooooooooooo

541
withak  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:18:01am

re: #529 The Vicious Babushka

Blasto From The Pasto

[Embedded content]

That’s not fake? That was an actual bumper sticker and/or slogan?

542
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:18:26am

re: #531 Kragar

Have they also offered to guard black churches? Didn’t think so.

543
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:22:57am

re: #541 withak

That’s not fake? That was an actual bumper sticker and/or slogan?

It was discussed here.

544
Lidane  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:23:23am

What could possibly go wrong?

Just imagine the first fuckwit who wants to bring his gun into an MRI.

*facepalm*

545
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:23:36am
546
Jenner7  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:30:11am

This is pretty much the same speech as his announcement speech and his speech in Arizona and his speech in Las Vegas….and on and on. No wonder he doesn’t need a teleprompter.

547
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:31:24am

re: #546 Jenner7

This is pretty much the same speech as his announcement speech and his speech in Arizona and his speech in Las Vegas….and on and on. No wonder he doesn’t need a teleprompter.

Hurr hurr at least I don’t use teleprompter which no other president before Obama ever used Dummy!!!1

548
#FergusonFireside  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:34:48am

Trump’s guy was on CNN saying Trump was going to bring riches and prosperity to every doorstep.

We have so many idjits in America that will absolutely believe that.

Insanity.

549
Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:35:06am

So, we’re suppose to trust a president that doxes politicians he doesn’t like? Please proceed, GOP.

550
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:37:38am

re: #546 Jenner7

This is pretty much the same speech as his announcement speech and his speech in Arizona and his speech in Las Vegas….and on and on. No wonder he doesn’t need a teleprompter.

How many ways are there to jerk off? He’s jerking off the Republican base and it seems to appreciate frequency more than technique.

551
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:38:16am

re: #548 #FergusonFireside

Trump’s guy was on CNN saying Trump was going to bring riches and prosperity to every doorstep.

We have so many idjits in America that will absolutely believe that.

Insanity.

It is true:i fyou getout there and work sixty-hour weeks and take no vacations, there is a good chance you wil actually be able to afford to retire before you die.

552
Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:40:03am

More Fun with Flags:

Crash kills black Confederate flag activist leaving Birmingham rally; passenger says they were chased

al.com

Unless this is manufactured, it’s going to get grim.

553
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:42:48am
554
Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:43:24am

re: #457 ObserverArt

#tcot’s reaction to Herr Shicklegruber entering the race would be ‘meh’.

Now Genghis Khan, Attilla the Hun or Ivan The Terrible would excite them.

555
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:44:11am

re: #548 #FergusonFireside

Trump’s guy was on CNN saying Trump was going to bring riches and prosperity to every doorstep.

We have so many idjits in America that will absolutely believe that.

Insanity.

MOAR FREE STUFFS????

556
Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:44:12am

re: #462 The Vicious Babushka

We’re fucked. We’re all gonna die.

[Embedded content]

I knew that. I try hard not to think about it.

557
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:45:55am
558
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:46:37am

re: #553 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is a more viable candidate than Ayn Rand Paul

559
wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:47:00am

I ran into Nichelle’s son this morning. I don’t usually ask him about her, but when he asked me how I was doing, I thought the question was fair game. ‘I’m doing well, how’s your mom doing?’ He waggled a finger in the direction of my feet on the sidewalk, and said, ‘You’re a little ahead of her, but she’s on her feet!’

Good to hear. Looks like she’s back to work and everything! (She had a little stroke this spring.)

560
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 21, 2015 • 10:48:40am

People, there’s a new Thread.

561
De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2015 • 11:13:55am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

562
Lancelot Link  Jul 21, 2015 • 11:18:31am

re: #554 Romantic Heretic

#tcot’s reaction to Herr Shicklegruber entering the race would be ‘meh’.

Now Genghis Khan, Attilla the Hun or Ivan The Terrible would excite them.

Genghis was known for religious tolerance; tcot would consider him too liberal.

563
No Country For Old Haters  Jul 21, 2015 • 11:23:34am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

[Embedded content]

564
William Lewis  Jul 21, 2015 • 11:31:47am

re: #512 lawhawk

Bet the guard gets around it by not issuing ammo.

565
William Lewis  Jul 21, 2015 • 11:34:40am

re: #545 GlutenFreeJesus

Actually they’d be fine with them too - remember the NRA is a Manufacturer’s support group. All they care about is more guns sold.

566
Virginia Dreaming  Jul 21, 2015 • 4:24:45pm

Trump’s new name Fuckface Von Buttplug.


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