Was the Birther Conspiracy Theory Really Started by Hillary Clinton Supporters?

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Today I saw this tweet go by on Twitter, from a writer for conservative site The Federalist, blaming Hillary Clinton “minions” for launching the Birther conspiracy theory that now dominates so much of the right wing:

Since the first place I encountered this theory was actually National Review, this set off warning bells for me. I knew that some of the more, uh, zealous Clinton supporters in 2008 did circulate the Birther insanity, but did it actually start with them, as so many conservative writers now claim?

It turns out that this claim is yet another bogus conservative talking point; the conspiracy theory originated at none other than Free Republic, the well-known far right discussion forum, in a post dated March 1, 2008. Here’s that post:

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Long time ago but there may be some residual information somewhere. Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dems - except accept the VP.

391 posted on March 1, 2008 at 1:47:59 AM PST by FARS

Notice that this deranged comment was posted a full month before the chain email cited by Ben Smith and Byron Tau in this Politico piece: Birtherism: Where It All Began.

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site snopes.com in April 2008.

Conservatives are now using this Politico article as proof that Birtherism was started by Clinton supporters, but Smith and Tau were wrong; it’s simply not true. This conspiracy theory that has taken over so much of the right wing, and is still being kept alive by the likes of World Net Daily, Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, originally came from the far right.

(Credit: I discovered the link to Free Republic in this excellent but obviously little-known post exploring the origins of Birtherism: The Secret Origin of the Birthers.)

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:10:26pm

Early 2008 was also when Conservatives were playing their ridiculous “Operation Chaos” game, pretending to be liberals to do anything to keep Hillary from getting the nomination.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:10:45pm

Karl Rove warned his fellow Republicans that it could be a clever trap. And he also reminds us that we are an Empire that creates its own reality .Put the two together and the outcome can only be today’s headline…

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KGxvi  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:11:42pm

oh, I remember the first time I saw one of those stupid billboards in 2008. I was riding with my folks and my dad pointed it out - I damn near snapped when I mentioned how incredibly stupid/racist it was. I was still marginally a Republican back then, but was of the mind that “one party deserves to lose and the other doesn’t deserve to win.” Of course seeing the world nut daily address on there, I wasn’t quite surprised either.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:13:35pm

re: #1 Kragar

Early 2008 was also when Conservatives were playing their ridiculous “Operation Chaos” game, pretending to be liberals to do anything to keep Hillary from getting the nomination.

Oh, yeah, that! Hahahaha!

As Dr. Phil would say, “How’s that workin’ out for you?”

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:16:10pm

yet another bogus conservative talking point

there seems to be no limit to what kind of counterfactual ‘FACT!’ they will believe. i’ve gotten used to hearing how woodrow wilson was responsible for the income tax and how much lbj resisted the voting rights act…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:16:51pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, yeah, that! Hahahaha!

As Dr. Phil would say, “How’s that workin’ out for you?”

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Yeah, it’s quite possible that we could get 8 years of Obama followed by 8 years of Clinton. If Hillary had gotten the nom in 2008, the usual “now it’s the other guys’ turn” would probably have precluded her being followed by Obama. So they really shot themselves in the foot. Good times.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:18:11pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:20:11pm

This asshole is doubling down on Teh Derp==>

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Tigger2  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:21:47pm

I thought I would get in on their name game at the FR link.

Free ( Is Full Of Idiots ) Republic.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:22:23pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

Sean doesn’t really understand how words work.

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Jack Burton  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:24:50pm

I wish someone would collect all of the times these assholes were ‘Lying for Jesus!” and put it up on a website.

Something like… bearingfalsewitness dot com

If I didn’t have the motivation of a mollusk I might.

Nope dammit, just checked… Someone has that domain already.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:29:16pm

re: #10 Kragar

Sean doesn’t really understand how words work.

Oh, he does understand. He’s deliberately lying. All of the conservative pundits writing about this understand the truth, and they’re all lying.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:31:19pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

“THEY SAID IT PLAIN AS DAY!”
“They specifically refute the claims being made in the video you claim is evidence.”
“YOU KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN!.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:36:29pm

I had a wingnut assert to me just a day after the first video came out, in that classic Patriot-Act era way, “If PP has done nothing wrong, then they have nothing to fear from investigations.”

Now that Democrats are calling for investigations into the group releasing the videos, the same wingnut is screaming “The Democrats are trying to intimidate them! They’re trying to silence them!”

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:37:44pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

This asshole is doubling down on Teh Derp==>

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Dr. Matt  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:37:45pm

Right-wingers lied about the origins of the Birther Conspiracy?! Here is my reaction:

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:38:05pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Oh, he does understand. He’s deliberately lying. All of the conservative pundits writing about this understand the truth, and they’re all lying.

It’s part of the job description.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:39:07pm

I can’t believe this is even a thing anymore. I have a pain behind my eye now.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:40:01pm

Have a WWII documentary running in the background. The narrator mentioned that during that during that conflict, America produced 41 billion rounds of ammunition. That was enough to kill the entire population of the world back then 17 times.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:40:58pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Oh, he does understand. He’s deliberately lying. All of the conservative pundits writing about this understand the truth, and they’re all lying.

I was a little more crass in calling out his lying:

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:41:37pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:43:58pm

If HRCs campaign had started the birther shit, she would have been ambassador to Burkina Faso, not the heir apparent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:44:28pm

re: #21 darthstar

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And it’s not the first time for that eejit:

Christopher A. Reed, 28, of Lancaster, was charged with discharging a firearm in the city limits, and was issued a summons to appear in Fairfield County Municipal Court on Tuesday, according to the police incident report.

Reed told the officer who responded that he was holding his AR-15 rifle in front of the military recruiting station to guard the personnel inside when someone approached him and asked if he could take a look at the weapon. Reed agreed to show him, and while he was trying to clear the ammunition from the weapon, he accidentally fired into the asphalt pavement.

The only damage was a hole in the pavement. The rifle was taken from Reed pending his appearance in court, the incident report says.

Conviction on the fourth-degree misdemeanor is punishable by a maximum of 30 days in jail.

Reed pleaded guilty and was convicted of the same offense in 2013, and was fined $50, court records show.

dispatch.com

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:44:49pm

re: #20 Dr. Matt

I was a little more crass in calling out his lying:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:44:58pm

re: #19 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Have a WWII documentary running in the background. The narrator mentioned that during that during that conflict, America produced 41 billion rounds of ammunition. That was enough to kill the entire population of the world back then 17 times.

That’s a hell of a lot of brass. Think of all the copper wasted, or tied up in stockpiled ammunition, while builders spent the 50s and 60s trying to use aluminum for house wiring.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:46:03pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not the first time for that eejit:

dispatch.com

Slow learning or low retention. You decide.

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Jenner7  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:46:30pm

OT, but damn, this is from Waller County, Texas from 2003:

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Mike R  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:46:38pm

The absolute stupidity displayed by the right wing is awesome, I have been left without even a snide remark. Congratulations on something, not sure what, right wing.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:47:17pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s a hell of a lot of brass. Think of all the copper wasted, or tied up in stockpiled ammunition, while builders spent the 50s and 60s trying to use aluminum for house wiring.

A lot went to Korea, where it became the basis of the Itaewon brass industry.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:47:58pm

re: #19 Higgs Boson’s Mate

WWII from space, or something, right? I watched that the other day. Crazy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:48:06pm

re: #27 Jenner7

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:49:46pm

re: #21 darthstar

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:50:07pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not the first time for that eejit:

dispatch.com

I was just reading that…hilarious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:50:18pm

heh (it’s National Hotdog Day):

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EPR-radar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:50:54pm

re: #28 Mike R

The absolute stupidity displayed by the right wing is awesome, I have been left without even a snide remark. Congratulations on something, not sure what, right wing.

It really is remarkable. The GOP Base is pretty much a synthesis of the worst elements in US politics.

The Big Lie that the GOP is a respectable political party is jointly perpetrated by the GOP establishment and the main stream media.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:50:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:51:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:52:12pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

It really is remarkable. The GOP Base is pretty much a synthesis of the worst elements in US politics.

The Big Lie that the GOP is a respectable political party is jointly perpetrated by the GOP establishment and the main stream media.

Indeed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:53:31pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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OFFS. If they knew anything about actual history, they’d know that the Nazis were adamantly opposed to abortion by German women. They were even okay with German men committing adultery as a ways of continuing the “Master Race.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:55:12pm

re: #18 A Mom Anon

I can’t believe this is even a thing anymore. I have a pain behind my eye now.

A little twitchy* I would guess.

* A reference to Twitchy, the Michelle Malkin web site that is another RWNJ pain.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:55:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:56:29pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I swear. The more I see out of this country, the more I think a lot of the country didn’t exactly accept the Civil Rights movement. Yeah we celebrate MLK day every January but some people just kept on doing what they did. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked. I’ve given up being shocked at the high amounts of institutional racism that is out there.

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EPR-radar  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:56:34pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Of course the conservative movement is going after Planned Parenthood using lies. This is who they are and what they have always done.

This whole movement conservatism pile of pigshit pretty much started with opposition to the New Deal, which is a truly asinine starting point.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:56:45pm

re: #30 GlutenFreeJesus

WWII from space, or something, right? I watched that the other day. Crazy.

That’s the one. Looks like a decent high-level treatment of the subject so far.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:58:37pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Godwin fail.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:58:44pm

Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50.

Sandra fails to use her turn signal, has to post $500 bond. Eventually ends up dead.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 2:59:30pm

re: #44 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s the one. Looks like a decent high-level treatment of the subject so far.

I’ve seen that on my recommends. Need to check it out. I tried watching WWI from the air but I couldn’t get into it. I like documentaries that focus heavily on the human experience. Not sure if it’s still there but Netflix had a great one, I think it’s from Germany but it’s in English that focuses on people from all walks of life that were impacted by the conflict not just military members. I actually liked it a little better than the BBC The First World War though that one is also great since it covers the truly global nature of the conflict.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:00:07pm

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50.

Sandra fails to use her turn signal, has to post $500 bond.eventuslly ends up dead.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

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Yeah something stinks to high heaven here.

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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:00:15pm

re: #45 Ace-o-aces

Godwin fail.

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Israel has the most liberal abortion laws in the Western world.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:01:13pm

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50.

Sandra fails to use her turn signal, has to post $500 bond.eventuslly ends up dead.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

//

The way those guys like to polish their barrels I’m surprised that it doesn’t happen (publicly) more often.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:01:14pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Israel has the most liberal abortion laws in the Western world.

Israel has also been allowing gays and lesbians to serve in its military since Bill Clinton’s first term. If wingnuts actually saw what Israel actually is, they’d probably sympathize with her Islamist opponents I bet.

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victor27  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:03:08pm

Must credit Fogbow.

When the Birthers were getting started, this site provided invaluable as a source of research. They’ve published a timeline of Birtherism, and their forums are filled with great info about everything Birther-related.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:04:18pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Israel has also been allowing gays and lesbians to serve in its military since Bill Clinton’s first term. If wingnuts actually saw what Israel actually is, they’d probably sympathize with her Islamist opponents I bet.

They don’t care what Israel actually does—they just need all the Juice there so Zombie Jesus can go on the rampage and kill everybody. This is apparently a good thing….

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:04:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:05:31pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Israel has the most liberal abortion laws in the Western world.

Not exactly. You still need to get approval for the abortion from a board. However, acceptable reasons include “not being married”. Definitely the most liberal in the Middle East though.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:05:50pm

Goddam Texas…

Texas seeks to dismiss lawsuit over denial of birth certificates to naturally born citizens of immigrants

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Wednesday asked a federal district judge to dismiss a lawsuit that claims a state agency violated the U.S. Constitution by denying birth certificates to U.S.-citizen children of immigrant parents.

Attorneys with Paxton’s office said that the Texas Department of State Health Services, which is being sued by 17 families living in Cameron, Hidalgo and Starr counties, has sovereign immunity under the 11th Amendment and cannot be sued in federal court because it has not waived that right, according to court documents.

The immunity extends to interim DSHS Commissioner Kirk Cole and State Registrar Geraldine Harris, who are also named as defendants in the suit, Paxton’s office argues.

A spokesperson in Paxton’s office would not discuss the filing further, saying the “motion speaks for itself.” A spokesperson for the health agency was not available to comment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:07:08pm

re: #56 Eric The Fruit Bat

Goddam Texas…

Texas seeks to dismiss lawsuit over denial of birth certificates to naturally born citizens of immigrants

Oh you have no idea how much that pisses me off on a personal level. Glad my niece was born in Maryland not Texas.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:15pm

re: #54 Kragar

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Yeah I seem to remember what happened last time they tried to make an election about women’s health.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:23pm

re: #21 darthstar

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Dude, where’s my royalties?

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:28pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not the first time for that eejit:

dispatch.com

Heh. As soon as I saw Lancaster I was wondering if it was the Ohio town….birthplace of General Sherman. Yep, story sounds like Lancaster.

Seems hard to believe that if some ISIS inspired nut is going to go off to find glory and he has a choice he will attack Lancaster when he would get a lot more targets and scare by doing it in Columbus which is about 30 miles north of Lancaster.

And yet, I haven’t heard of anyone guarding any recruiters here in Columbus. Might just be some of that grand old small town thinking,

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:43pm

Do you think Jeb Bush has a binder full of women like Mitt Romney or do you think he has an iPad?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:43pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Israel has also been allowing gays and lesbians to serve in its military since Bill Clinton’s first term. If wingnuts actually saw what Israel actually is, they’d probably sympathize with her Islamist opponents I bet.

That’s why it cracks me up when Ben Shapiro goes on about how “real” Jews oppose gay rights, abortion and socialized healthcare. It’s like, “Dude, there is only one country in the world populated and governed mostly by Jews, and it has all those things.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:08:54pm
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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:09:48pm
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allegro  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:09:56pm

re: #50 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The way those guys like to polish their barrels I’m surprised that it doesn’t happen (publicly) more often.

I suspect it happens a lot. One day our department secretary came in grumbling that she had to get a new refrigerator. We’re like didn’t you just get a new fridge recently? She says, yeah a year ago but last night her husband was doing stuff to his gun and shot the fridge dead.

Though it turned out to be a kinda funny story and subject for endless teasing of the fridge murderer, I always cringed at the thought of their two young sons in the house. Tragedy waiting to happen.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:10:18pm

re: #56 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Texas AG has a novel, nay, hallucinatory, interpretation of sovereign immunity under the 11th Amendment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:10:40pm

re: #62 Ace-o-aces

That’s why it cracks me up when Ben Shapiro goes on about how “real” Jews oppose gay rights, abortion and socialized healthcare. It’s like, “Dude, there is only one country in the world populated and governed mostly by Jews, and it has all those things.”

Yeah that does amuse me too. Jewish people typically have been champions of social liberalism which is why a lot of Ben’s friends’ ideological ancestors were openly Antisemitic. Hell it’s why Bill Donahue of the Catholic league still is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:10:40pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s a hell of a lot of brass. Think of all the copper wasted, or tied up in stockpiled ammunition, while builders spent the 50s and 60s trying to use aluminum for house wiring.

During the war years, some gold filled watch cases were made with sterling silver as the core, rather than the usual brass, because brass was diverted to the war effort.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:10:50pm

re: #53 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They don’t care what Israel actually does—they just need all the Juice there so Zombie Jesus can go on the rampage and kill everybody. This is apparently a good thing….

Sacrifice has always been a big thing with them, others sacrifice , but sacrifice none the less.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:11:16pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:12:54pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Do you think Jeb Bush has a binder full of women like Mitt Romney or do you think he has an iPad?

There’s only one woman like Mitt Romney.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:13:18pm

re: #66 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The Texas AG has a novel, nay, hallucinatory, interpretation of sovereign immunity under the 11th Amendment.

If only there were a cabinet-level post in the federal government to point that out to them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:13:45pm

re: #71 Higgs Boson’s Mate

There’s only one woman like Mitt Romney.

Yes and her name is Ann.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:14:06pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Israel has the most liberal abortion laws in the Western world.

This is not the real Israel they are referring to any more than they refer to the real Ronald Reagan, it is their fuzzy-eyed ideal vision of God’s Own Israel

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EPR-radar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:15:29pm

re: #66 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The Texas AG has a novel, nay, hallucinatory, interpretation of sovereign immunity under the 11th Amendment.

Seems to be standard wingnut textual analysis to me:
1) Decide what I want.

2) Find the most authoritative relevant text.

3) Assert that the text supports my position.

Even a wingnut can do it because understanding the text (or even reading it) is not necessary. The text can be anything (Bible, constitution, congressional deals etc.)

Noted practitioners of this method include Justices Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:15:54pm

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is not the real Israel they are referring to any more than they refer to the real Ronald Reagan, it is their fuzzy-eyed ideal vision of God’s Own Israel

Yeah, no shit. The actual Israel’s real policies would have them shitting bricks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:15:58pm

Dana “Muhgunz!!!” is also spreading this Birfer Derp Lie:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:16:29pm

I suspect it’s a lot like Spain where the idealized version is focused on heavily. When I was in Madrid, the man that led our Tapas tour told our group that tourists account for a vast majority of bullfight and flamenco attendees. I felt like quite the tourist heh considering I had saw a Flamenco show the night before and was scheduled to see a bullfight in Pamplona a couple days after.

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EPR-radar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:17:27pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

During the war years, some gold filled watch cases were made with sterling silver as the core, rather than the usual brass, because brass was diverted to the war effort.

WWII metal shortages gave us the steel pennies in 1943 and the war nickels with a bit of silver in them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:21:18pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

WWII metal shortages gave us the steel pennies in 1943 and the war nickels with a bit of silver in them.

Not to mention a return to gilded watch movements instead of nickel plated, due to the same nickel shortage.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:23:24pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Yes and her name is Ann.

Heh. Mitt may be a big man at Bain Capital, but at home…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:23:29pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Dana “Muhgunz!!!” is also spreading this Birfer Derp Lie:

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Someone help me out here but wasn’t Berg a fringe lunatic lawyer who was also a 9/11 truther? And of course Dana ignores and doesn’t condemn the numerous Republicans that flirted and some that still do with birther nonsense like oh I dunno the frontrunner. He has really bad hair and a massive ego. Been in the news a lot this week. I forget his name though,//

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:23:55pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

re: #66 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I just hope the judge says: “The motion to dismiss is denied” and leave it at that. Then the trial proceeds, hopefully the State and these yahoos are found guilty, then the appeal is brought forth, and during the appeal the “Sovereign Citizen” nonsense will be brought out and the TX AG will be filleted into teeny tiny little TX AG bits.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:24:59pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

Heh. Mitt may be a big man at Bain Capital, but at home…

I remember when Mitt started locking up the nomination, they began introducing Ann as a way of “humanizing” Mitt and frankly Ann made Mitt seem even more unlikable. It’s quite rare that a spouse can do that honestly. I mean no fan of W Bush but Laura Bush seemed like a nice person. Ann seemed to ooze entitlement and snobbery.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:27:37pm

re: #45 Ace-o-aces

Wait, it gets worse….

Don’t think I’ve ever seen an anti-Semite invoke the Holocaust to argue against something. That’s some weapons grade crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:28:17pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

Wait, it get worse….

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Don’t think I’ve ever seen an anti-Semite invoke the Holocaust to argue against something. That’s some weapons grade crazy.

Oh my.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:28:33pm

re: #65 allegro

IMNSHO, There is no such thing as an accidental firearms discharge if there is anything in the chamber.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:29:03pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:29:15pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I remember when Mitt started locking up the nomination, they began introducing Ann as a way of “humanizing” Mitt and frankly Ann made Mitt seem even more unlikable. It’s quite rare that a spouse can do that honestly. I mean no fan of W Bush but Laura Bush seemed like a nice person. Ann seemed to ooze entitlement and snobbery.

Didn’t that start about the time that their pedigree steed was competing in the Olympic dressage competition?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:30:02pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

WWII metal shortages gave us the steel pennies in 1943 and the war nickels with a bit of silver in them.

Weren’t there steel nickels, briefly, like in 1942?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:30:14pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

Wait, it gets worse….

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Don’t think I’ve ever seen an anti-Semite invoke the Holocaust to argue against something. That’s some weapons grade crazy.

What in the utter fuck

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:30:18pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

And to think that State Farm has anything to do with this guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:30:47pm

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Didn’t that start about the time that their pedigree steed was competing in the Olympic dressage competition?

I am honestly not sure. I just recall it being around the time he was locking the nomination up or so. I really did not want to be too hard on Ann. She does have MS I believe but her arrogance and condescending attitude as I said really turned me off of her husband even more. She acted like this country somehow needed Mitt to save us.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:30:59pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:31:06pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s a hell of a lot of brass. Think of all the copper wasted, or tied up in stockpiled ammunition, while builders spent the 50s and 60s trying to use aluminum for house wiring.

And aluminum was probably cheap at the time due to surplus production and/or scrapping aircraft.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:32:26pm

re: #94 Kragar

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I liked it when people pointed out to the homophobes about Alan Turing.

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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:32:56pm

re: #94 Kragar

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Yeah, unlike ACORN, the list of companies that support Planned Parenthood is too large and full of companies that wingnuts rely upon to stage an effective boycott. Well, not without having nobody to boast about it to but your cat. And he don’t really give a shit.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:33:41pm

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50.

Sandra fails to use her turn signal, has to post $500 bond. Eventually ends up dead.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

//

I wasn’t aware that non-use of turn signals in Texas was illegal. I was told that using them was considered giving information to the enemy.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:33:58pm

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Didn’t that start about the time that their pedigree steed was competing in the Olympic dressage competition?

And the permits were pulled for the La Jolla house with the car elevator.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:34:00pm

It is funny though seeing all the prominent Republicans who supported PP years ago before the Roe decision. Hell some like Jeb and Dubya’s grandpa were even on the board.

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KGxvi  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:34:39pm

re: #56 Eric The Fruit Bat

from a strictly legal tactics point of view, this isn’t really a bad idea on the part of Texas (yes, IAAL). You run the legal theory up the flag pole, even if you don’t win now because the standard on a Rule 12 motion is too high, you might create a path to win via a motion for summary judgment/adjudication. It’s been a while since I’ve delved into sovereign immunity rules but from my quick refresher course, Texas may actually have a decent argument here from a procedural standpoint. But that would just mean that the case could be brought in state court (and transferred to the federal courts on appeal because of a federal issue - 14th Amendment due process/equal protection) - unless of course there’s actually a federal law that requires the issuing of birth certificates, in which case Texas is screwed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:34:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:35:06pm

So I really want to hear Jeb Bush condemn Planned Parenthood and some reporter whose done their homework to point out to him that Grandpa Prescott was on the board, that Dad was called Rubbers by PP, and that Mom is pro-choice too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:35:42pm

re: #95 Feline Fearless Leader

And aluminum was probably cheap at the time due to surplus production and/or scrapping aircraft.

Oh, it was, and aluminum plants were essentially given free electricity. Aluminum is basically frozen electricity—about 20 kW-h/kg. Now how many house fires and deaths were caused by aluminum wiring? (To be fair, most of the problem was the connections between aluminum inside and copper outside wiring, but still.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:35:53pm

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

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Heh.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:36:20pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I remember when Mitt started locking up the nomination, they began introducing Ann as a way of “humanizing” Mitt and frankly Ann made Mitt seem even more unlikable. It’s quite rare that a spouse can do that honestly. I mean no fan of W Bush but Laura Bush seemed like a nice person. Ann seemed to ooze entitlement and snobbery.

Well, let us just say that no matter how warm it gets in a Romney home they never need to turn on the air conditioning.

Some of their public displays of acting like warm human beings was all I needed to see. I will never ever forget the whole store bought cookies thing. Damn Mitt, would it kill you to take a coupe bites and thank the woman for offering…or even turning them down and saying being out on the road at political events were killing his diet and he had to watch. But no, straight outta that lovely mouth was “I’m not sure about these cookies, they don’t look like you made them?”

They both had trouble lowering themselves to do regular political appearances. It was so humbling to have to run for President and meet the great unwashed. How ever did they do it?

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Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:36:45pm

re: #94 Kragar

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Maybe they have a Commodore 64 lying around…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:38:06pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:38:29pm

re: #107 Mike Lamb

Maybe they have a Commodore 64 lying around…

Nah, that guy was a Commie…..

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:38:51pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Well, let us just say that no matter how warm it gets in a Romney home they never need to turn on the air conditioning.

Some of their public displays of acting like warm human beings was all I needed to see. I will never ever forget the whole store bought cookies thing. Damn Mitt, would it kill you to take a coupe bites and thank the woman for offering…or even turning them down and saying being out on the road at political events were killing his diet and he had to watch. But no, straight outta that lovely mouth was “I’m not sure about these cookies, they don’t look like you made them?”

They both had trouble lowering themselves to do regular political appearances. It was so humbling to have to run for President and meet the great unwashed. How ever did they do it?

It honestly made me wonder if Mitt was on the spectrum a little heh. I didn’t hear about the cookies though. One of my favorite best “Mitt is out of touch with the average American” moments was when he told recent college graduates to start a business with the help of their parents like the founder of Jimmy Johns subs did. What Mitt didn’t tell you is that guy’s family was already quite well off. Oh Mitt. I am actually going to miss him in this year’s primaries and how he’ll say one thing one second and then forget he said the next.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:39:53pm

re: #101 KGxvi

I would think that there has to be some case law that mandates issuance of a birth certificate - I’m thinking birth in a military hospital on foreign soil, perhaps?

I think one issue here was that many of these births probably occurred at home with a midwife, and not at a hospital-I would think that at a hospital they’d have records, no?

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Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:41:33pm

Night Lizards.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:42:18pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

It honestly made me wonder if Mitt was on the spectrum a little heh. I didn’t hear about the cookies though. One of my favorite best “Mitt is out of touch with the average American” moments was when he told recent college graduates to start a business with the help of their parents like the founder of Jimmy Johns subs did. What Mitt didn’t tell you is that guy’s family was already quite well off. Oh Mitt. I am actually going to miss him in this year’s primaries and how he’ll say one thing one second and then forget he said the next.

The Base doesn’t care about that—they’ll cheer contradictory crap in the same sentence. As long as it’s THEIR guy saying it, it doesn’t matter.

I want to try the old “Owa Tagu Siam” bit on them sometime….

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:42:43pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

It honestly made me wonder if Mitt was on the spectrum a little heh. I didn’t hear about the cookies though. One of my favorite best “Mitt is out of touch with the average American” moments was when he told recent college graduates to start a business with the help of their parents like the founder of Jimmy Johns subs did. What Mitt didn’t tell you is that guy’s family was already quite well off. Oh Mitt. I am actually going to miss him in this year’s primaries and how he’ll say one thing one second and then forget he said the next.

Well then…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:43:27pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Base doesn’t care about that—they’ll cheer contradictory crap in the same sentence. As long as it’s THEIR guy saying it, it doesn’t matter.

I want to try the old “Owa Tagu Siam” bit on them sometime….

I actually think the base did resent him a little for that. I was being silly though. I am glad Mitt’s not running. Good riddance. Marmaland’s Mormon cousin won’t be missed.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:43:54pm

From a Sarah supporter

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:44:06pm

re: #50 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The only time my guns are loaded are at the range. And I have no desire to carry any of mine around in public for any reason. Loaded mags at home are in my footlocker with a padlock and 200lbs of free weights on top. Accidental discharges are inexcusable.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:44:10pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:46:43pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Well then…

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Video

Nice I never heard about the yogurt thing too. See, that’s how you handle things if you’re in this arena. You laugh it off. As Obama told her, “Hey you got a good story to tell” and he mentioned her in his speech too heh.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:47:43pm

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Back in those days we used to call them “Commode door 64”s.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:48:08pm

re: #116 Kragar

From a Sarah supporter

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Uh yeah about that. It only was the most devesating war in our country’s history. Aside from that no one at all. Oh wait the dead blacks, white supporters of civil rights, etc too. The CSA flag killed more Americans than ISIS has period at the first battle of Bull Run.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:48:22pm

re: #116 Kragar

From a Sarah supporter

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Oh look…it is that Celtic cross symbol in that tweet from LochTheScot.

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KGxvi  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:48:55pm

re: #111 Eric The Fruit Bat

you would think, but birth certificate laws are left pretty much to the states (there’s a recommended federal model but that’s about it). i don’t know enough about how Texas works on this stuff to be able to say what is actually required by the involved parties. i’m also basing this off of not having seen the complaint, so i’ve no idea what they’re even arguing on a legal basis.

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:49:03pm

I wonder if there will be a Bad Lip Reading vid of Trump someday.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:50:55pm

re: #116 Kragar

From a Sarah supporter

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:51:01pm

It’s like these people forget what happens in a Civil War. Your great great grandfather who you love to call a patriot. Well he shot at Americans and probably killed some too.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:51:21pm

Heh. Love that very last image in the Romney cookies video I posted. I had never let that run all the way to the end. Nice finish.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:52:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:52:03pm

re: #125 No Country For Old Haters

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The real question is why was it virtually absent from Southern capitols from the mid 1870’s through the 1950’s? We know why but I would love to get an answer on this just for shits and giggles.

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:53:40pm

I’m about to depart on a sekrit mission, so I’ll be radio silent for some days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:54:47pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

The real question is why was it virtually absent from Southern capitols from the mid 1870’s through the 1950’s? We know why but I would love to get an answer on this just for shits and giggles.

Aw, hell - you KNOW what they answer is: It’s a Democrat flag, so Liberals are the REAL racists!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:55:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:55:29pm

found on the innertubes:

Eleven Things that Caught My Eye Today (July 23, 2015)

by KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ

FrSteveGrunow @FrSteveGrunow

The poor are not a constituency to be used to advance a cause. The poor are for the Christian a revelation of Christ’s presence among us.

i like it

because it’s bugfuck

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:55:30pm

re: #130 freetoken

“I’ll be monitoring your frequency.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:55:58pm

That worked well.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:56:41pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

The real question is why was it virtually absent from Southern capitols from the mid 1870’s through the 1950’s? We know why but I would love to get an answer on this just for shits and giggles.

I’m betting 80% of those idiots would not know the real history and why it appeared in the 60s.

But they can tell you the real reason they like that damn flag rag is not the real reason they like the flag.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:56:47pm

re: #46 GlutenFreeJesus

Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50.

Sandra fails to use her turn signal, has to post $500 bond. Eventually ends up dead.

Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

//

For a closer (Ohio) comparison—Dude discharges an assault rifle in public, and he’s fined $50, gets his gun back; does it again and explains it, “It is what it is.”

vs.

John Crawford picks up air rifle from WalMart shelf. Police shoot him dead, then interrogate his girlfriend about where he got the gun, saying such pleasant, kindly things as:

“You understand that we’re investigating a serious incident,” Detective Rodney Curd says. “You lie to me and you might be on your way to jail.” and

“Well, to let you know, John has passed away as a result of this,” the detective says. and

“I don’t know any other way to tell you,” Curd says. “What happened there wasn’t a good thing and as a result of his actions, he is gone.”

cnn.com

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:57:12pm

re: #19 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Have a WWII documentary running in the background. The narrator mentioned that during that during that conflict, America produced 41 billion rounds of ammunition. That was enough to kill the entire population of the world back then 17 times.

That’s a metric fuckton of ammo, but how much of that wound up on the bottom of the ocean (or otherwise destroyed) due to enemy action?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:57:17pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

Wait, it gets worse….

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Don’t think I’ve ever seen an anti-Semite invoke the Holocaust to argue against something. That’s some weapons grade crazy.

and then…

“I’m not anti-Semitic, BUT TEH JOOOSE KILLED JESUS!!!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:57:20pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Seems to be standard wingnut textual analysis to me:
1) Decide what I want.

2) Find the most authoritative relevant text.

3) Assert that the text supports my position.

Even a wingnut can do it because understanding the text (or even reading it) is not necessary. The text can be anything (Bible, constitution, congressional deals etc.)

Noted practitioners of this method include Justices Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia.

i find this to be very common: provide a link, and assert that the document at the link proves your point

the effect can be ruined by actually reading the document, which rather often it seems proves the opposite of what the wingnut insists it does

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:58:25pm

re: #133 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

found on the innertubes:

Eleven Things that Caught My Eye Today (July 23, 2015)

by KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ

FrSteveGrunow @FrSteveGrunow

The poor are not a constituency to be used to advance a cause. The poor are for the Christian a revelation of Christ’s presence among us.

i like it

because it’s bugfuck

What in the name of fuck. Yeah these people are definitely Neo-Feudalists.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:58:45pm

Suggestion of the day for TBI: Laying on of hands with prayer to Jesus. It wasn’t really a suggestion, it was an offer, and I said, ‘OK’. She’s a customer since her boys were small. and one is now in the army and the other is studying to be an EMT. I said, ‘Great! EMTs are about my favorite people now!’ She was picking up a check from a year and a half ago when I sold her son’s unicycle. She said a nice, chatty prayer, and we talked about her sons a bit, and she got her check and left. I didn’t get her mailing address, or the check wouldn’t have been here so long.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 3:59:30pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

and then…

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“I’m not anti-Semitic, BUT TEH JOOOSE KILLED JESUS!!!!

I’m not an antisemite, I just believe the oldest antisemitic Christian trope in the books.//

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:00:23pm

re: #130 freetoken

I’m about to depart on a sekrit mission, so I’ll be radio silent for some days.

If anybody asks, we never heard of you.

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Jenner7  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:00:41pm

re: #137 BeachDem

His actions? Holding a toy gun?

god damn it. Ugh.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:00:52pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

Heh. As soon as I saw Lancaster I was wondering if it was the Ohio town….birthplace of General Sherman. Yep, story sounds like Lancaster.

Seems hard to believe that if some ISIS inspired nut is going to go off to find glory and he has a choice he will attack Lancaster when he would get a lot more targets and scare by doing it in Columbus which is about 30 miles north of Lancaster.

And yet, I haven’t heard of anyone guarding any recruiters here in Columbus. Might just be some of that grand old small town thinking,

Oh come on—you know that River Valley Mall is a hotbed of…well, it’s a hotbed of something or other //

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:01:03pm

re: #133 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

found on the innertubes:

Eleven Things that Caught My Eye Today (July 23, 2015)

by KATHRYN JEAN LOPEZ

FrSteveGrunow @FrSteveGrunow

The poor are not a constituency to be used to advance a cause. The poor are for the Christian a revelation of Christ’s presence among us.

i like it

because it’s bugfuck

Oh, don’t tell me she’s still at it—I guess Pope-fellating ain’t what it used to be since Ratzi the Nazi quit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:01:47pm

Louise Mensch is going after Alice Dreger on the twitters.
Alice is winning.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:02:14pm

So, a janitor blew up a federal lab while cooking meth. Now they wonder how much meth is made in federal labs.

news.sciencemag.org

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:02:27pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Gawker removes Chuck Johnson’s lawsuit to federal court, substantive response set for September 4.

They’re gonna put a beating on the little shitweasel.

He’ll be up to his ass in discovery requests by Labor Day.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:03:23pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:04:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:05:26pm

re: #150 makeitstop

He made a huge mistake by doing this. It’s going to end up bankrupting him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:05:53pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I’m not an antisemite, I just believe the oldest antisemitic Christian trope in the books.//

If I were Jewish, and anybody came at me with “The Jews killed Jesus”, I’d say: “Yeah—so? You are aware that Jesus was Jewish, right? Is he the only ___ in world history that was killed by fellow ___s?”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:06:12pm

turns out the in page string search mechanism for chrome operates very imperfectly if the location of the match on the page causes the search box to need to move out of the way

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:06:57pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

He made a huge mistake by doing this. It’s going to end up bankrupting him.

I can’t say it’s anything he doesn’t deserve.

And he thought losing a few Twitter accounts was bad…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:07:27pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If I were Jewish, and anybody came at me with “The Jews killed Jesus”, I’d say: “Yeah—so? You are aware that Jesus was Jewish, right? Is he the only ___ in world history that was killed by fellow ___s?”

I’ve decided to turn it around at them. “Yeah, bitch, we KILLED YOUR GOD! You still wanna FUCK with us?!”

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Khal Wimpo  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:07:53pm

Re-posted from below, because I’m slow, this is funny, and I didn’t want you all to miss it.

As a Gen-Xer who absolutely loved the arcade games of the early 80s, who fed countless quarters into Robotron, Spy Hunter, Zaxxon, Centipede, et al., I have to agree with the scathing review of “Pixels.”

It is a giant gorilla turd. It is a cynical exploitation that is so Adam Sandler-bad that it makes you hate everything you once loved.

Extra credit: copy down the verbiage dumped down upon this movie. Save & re-use later to describe the GOP debate on Fox.

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piratedan  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:08:21pm

re: #157 Ace-o-aces

it’s really strange how the Romans get a complete pass regarding all of this Jesus stuff :-) /////////////////

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:08:59pm

re: #157 Ace-o-aces

I’ve decided to turn it around at them. “Yeah, bitch, we KILLED YOUR GOD! You still wanna FUCK with us?!”

When they tell me their God is going to get me, I always say: “Yeah, I’ve got an iron chariot parked right out back—I ain’t worried.”

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:09:15pm

re: #158 Khal Wimpo

Re-posted from below, because I’m slow, this is funny, and I didn’t want you all to miss it.

As a Gen-Xer who absolutely loved the arcade games of the early 80s, who fed countless quarters into Robotron, Spy Hunter, Zaxxon, Centipede, et al., I have to agree with the scathing review of “Pixels.”

It is a giant gorilla turd. It is a cynical exploitation that is so Adam Sandler-bad that it makes you hate everything you once loved.
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Extra credit: copy down the verbiage dumped down upon this movie. Save & re-use later to describe the GOP debate on Fox.

I watched that yesterday. Dude apparently didn’t like the movie that much. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:09:15pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If I were Jewish, and anybody came at me with “The Jews killed Jesus”, I’d say: “Yeah—so? You are aware that Jesus was Jewish, right? Is he the only ___ in world history that was killed by fellow ___s?”

Here’s what I don’t get as a non-believer. Okay Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. And apparently God had that planned out for him all along. So wouldn’t the Jews that killed Christ have been doing God’s work? Yet it was the death of Christ that was the basis for generations of Antisemitism. And you never saw hatred against Italians(the descendants of the Romans) who actually executed him. Bigotry and religion are weird.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:09:33pm

re: #146 BeachDem

Oh come on—you know that River Valley Mall is a hotbed of…well, it’s a hotbed of something or other //

I can see driving by in the heat of the day and bunch of old guys with guns in their laps asleep and sun burned out in their lawn chairs lined up on the sidewalk outside the recruiter. Guns loaded and at the ready.

Now that I think of it…I am staying away from there. I sometimes drive by it on my way down Rt 33 to the Hocking Hills area. I’ll just take the new bypass around the whole town.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:09:34pm

re: #159 piratedan

it’s really strange how the Romans get a complete pass regarding all of this Jesus stuff :-) /////////////////

romani ite domum!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:09:45pm

re: #152 Kragar

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Now someone explain what it means. Did Gawker unilaterally move the cas to Federal court, or is it merely petitioning to do so? Does this mean it WILL BE tried in a Federal Court?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:10:01pm
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freetoken  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:11:41pm

Before I leave, I’ll note that Mullah Mohler’s bulldog Denny Burk is now turning off comments in his blog posts, e.g.:

Hillary Clinton defends Planned Parenthood in wake of damning videos

I suspect he didn’t like the fact that a few non-religious-nuts showed up and started to rebut his claims. Also, some of the religious nuts were pre-violent types, and I wonder if he was afraid he’d be accused of something if one of his commenters did something. Mostly I think it is the first case.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:13:25pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Here’s what I don’t get as a non-believer. Okay Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. And apparently God had that planned out for him all along. So wouldn’t the Jews that killed Christ have been doing God’s work? Yet it was the death of Christ that was the basis for generations of Antisemitism. And you never saw hatred against Italians(the descendants of the Romans) who actually executed him. Bigotry and religion are weird.

Don’t look for logic in religious doctrine. And if you think Christianity is bad in that regard, check out ancient Egyptian mythology sometime. That shits fucked up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:14:13pm

Sean Davis Tweeted out this pile of patronizing racist shit==>

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:14:32pm

re: #159 piratedan

it’s really strange how the Romans get a complete pass regarding all of this Jesus stuff :-) /////////////////

You know something. I thought I heard everything. Every joke, every song, every story. That is so obvious I simply cannot believe I never heard it before.

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:14:33pm

It’s part of the epistemic closure the religious right is enforcing. They’re drawing up more hard-line dogma statements in their institutions and throwing out those who won’t sign off on every jot and tittle.

But America grows more secular each year, and the reactionary religious right will in a decade or so find themselves in a place where there won’t be any political leverage for them (in a sense Trump already demonstrates this.) When that occurs, I expect the remnant to turn more radical.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:15:16pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Man, she’s gone downhill. Which is difficult since she started at the bottom.

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KGxvi  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:15:54pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

a defendant can remove a case to federal court, if the federal court has jurisdiction (either diversity jurisdiction - the parties are from different states; or subject matter jurisdiction - a federal law has been invoked). the case now gets transferred to the federal court, Chuck will have a chance to have the case remanded to state court (but given that diversity jurisdiction is clear, the court will likely maintain jurisdiction). this more than likely means it will be litigated and possibly tried in federal court (i can’t imagine it gets past summary judgment). most likely, the next step, once federal jurisdiction is settled will be a motion to change venue/transfer - probably to New York, since that’s where the defendants are domiciled. in short, Chuck stepped in it and is now stuck up to his knees.

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:16:06pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

That, from an outfit that dabbles around the edges of “race realism”, e.g. this recent article:

The Left Versus The Internet

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:17:08pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Now someone explain what it means. Did Gawker unilaterally move the cas to Federal court, or is it merely petitioning to do so? Does this mean it WILL BE tried in a Federal Court?

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:17:33pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

Sean Davis Tweeted out this pile of patronizing racist shit==>

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You know how black women are. If they’re not having too many babies, they’re out getting all their babies aborted……wait, what?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:18:19pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Here’s what I don’t get as a non-believer. Okay Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. And apparently God had that planned out for him all along. So wouldn’t the Jews that killed Christ have been doing God’s work? Yet it was the death of Christ that was the basis for generations of Antisemitism. And you never saw hatred against Italians(the descendants of the Romans) who actually executed him. Bigotry and religion are weird.

As a theological issue I never understood even what “Dying for our sins” is supposed to mean. I always argue that he was sent to Earth to bring a new Word embodied in the Beatitudes. But fearful people would rather live by law and order and saw Him as a threat to their world order.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:18:48pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

And CCJ could have anticipated that if he hired an attorney who actually knew what the fuck he was doing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:18:58pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:19:00pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

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First you tell them they should stop breeding, and that they only have kids so that they can get more welfare, then you try to guilt trip them for NOT having kids, and on top of that, you want to get rid of the one organization that’s trying to help them improve their situation by helping them control family size.

Oh, and then you say that they are so stupid and venal that their votes can be bought with ‘free stuff’ - which is available to everyone else, but implicitly you’re saying only they are so morally bankrupt that the ‘free stuff’ works to buy their votes.

Then you wonder why they don’t vote for you.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:19:25pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Well then…

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His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:20:39pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

This is so great!
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piratedan  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:20:57pm

re: #170 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I know Steve, I know… if the gospels are to be believed, he was arrested by Roman authorities, tried by Roman Law and then subjected to Roman punishment yet it’s the Jews that take the hit. The scary thing is, we see this pattern of derangement in damn near every wingnut argument that comes down the pike. Democrats are the real racists etc etc etc…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:21:38pm

re: #181 BeachDem

His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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“Nailed it!”

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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:21:51pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

So Chucky slit his own throat. He’s gonna be buried up to his eyeballs in legal bills, and is likely going to lose the case anyway.

Quick, where’s my tiny violin?

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Khal Wimpo  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:22:04pm

re: #150 makeitstop

They’re gonna put a beating on the little shitweasel.

He’ll be up to his ass in discovery requests by Labor Day.

Yep. Carpet bombing to commence in 3, 2, 1 …

Hope his shit-for-brains lawyer buddy has a couple extra cartridges of toner for the fax/copy machine.

Wonder when the counter-suit is going to drop?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:22:56pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:24:01pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

Ha!

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Ian G.  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:25:44pm

re: #159 piratedan

it’s really strange how the Romans get a complete pass regarding all of this Jesus stuff :-) /////////////////

I’m sure ancient politics had a lot to do with it. After all, it was a Roman Emperor who accepted Christianity, and spread it around the Empire. I’m sure early Christians wanted to kiss a lot of Roman ass about that.

But them durned Jews were stubbornly refusing to join the club. They needed to be dealt with….

But yes, as said above, if the Jews did kill Jesus, then they did everyone a favor, according to Christian belief, in freeing us all from damnation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:26:12pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:26:47pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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I had one the other day tell me that he hoped that my family and I would be decapitated before everyone else when ISIS inevitably takes over.

Then got upset when I told him to go fuck himself. Sideways with a straightrazor.

Because it wasn’t that he wanted my family and me to die. He just wanted us to die FIRST.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:27:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:28:30pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

So Chucky slit his own throat. He’s gonna be buried up to his eyeballs in legal bills, and is likely going to lose the case anyway.

Quick, where’s my tiny violin?

If Gawker is able to anti-SLAPP Chuck, he’s going to be on the hook for A LOT of money.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:29:18pm

Man, Chuckhead is gonna get squashed.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:33:31pm

re: #189 Ian G.

I’m sure ancient politics had a lot to do with it. After all, it was a Roman Emperor who accepted Christianity, and spread it around the Empire. I’m sure early Christians wanted to kiss a lot of Roman ass about that.

that’s the generally accepted explanation

at the time the gospels were written, the jews were in bad odor in roman ruling circles since they had caused the provincial roman elite some small discomfort by actually kicking their roman asses out of judea. generally in the roman empire this sort of thing was Just Not Done

of course, being romans, they didnt put up with being kicked out and came back a couple of years later and destroyed solomon’s temple into the bargain. jews were stigmatized as troublemakers and warned not to try shit like this again

of course, being a stubborn and stiffnecked people yanno we had to try it a second time 60 years later and after that the romans kicked us out and the diaspora really began in earnest… but let’s not talk about that…

so christians, you see, they did not want to associate themselves with troublemakers no no no it wasnt nice romans who killed god you see it was them

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:35:05pm

…but i do think we all hebrews should take some pride in having kicked the roman empire out of our little province twice

even if in the end it didnt stick

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:35:29pm

re: #181 BeachDem

His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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I thought so too. The fucker actually said that Obama sympathized with the Benghazi attackers.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:35:56pm

If Chuck has a single functioning brain cell left, he’ll drop the case. He can’t win, and his lawyer should be telling him that if he has any ethics at all. (Which is doubtful.)

But I suspect his egomania won’t let him do that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:37:27pm

re: #189 Ian G.

I’m sure ancient politics had a lot to do with it. After all, it was a Roman Emperor who accepted Christianity, and spread it around the Empire. I’m sure early Christians wanted to kiss a lot of Roman ass about that.

But them durned Jews were stubbornly refusing to join the club. They needed to be dealt with….

But yes, as said above, if the Jews did kill Jesus, then they did everyone a favor, according to Christian belief, in freeing us all from damnation.

True that. The Roman conversion to Christianity definitely means something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:37:53pm

re: #196 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

…but i do think we all hebrews should take some pride in having kicked the roman empire out of our little province twice

even if in the end it didnt stick

Yeah? Well they had to build a fucking WALL to keep US out! THAT’S how badass WE are!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:38:21pm

As for religion, I guarantee that most people have ancestors that were Christian, Muslim, and Jewish at some point in history.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:41:11pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:42:32pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

And let’s not forget the coup de grase: paying the other side’s attorney’s fees. And Gawker seriously lawyered up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:42:38pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

If Chuck has a single functioning brain cell left, he’ll drop the case. He can’t win, and his lawyer should be telling him that if he has any ethics at all. (Which is doubtful.)

But I suspect his egomania won’t let him do that.

*knock, knock, knock*

“Yes?”

“Good Morning! Are you Charles C Johnson?”

“Yes”

“You’ve just been served. Please sign here.”

*closes door. Reads paper*

“COUNTERSUIT?!?!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:43:43pm

re: #202 No Country For Old Haters

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Well she was Sarah Palin’s bff at FNC.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:44:41pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:44:44pm

re: #203 Eric The Fruit Bat

And let’s not forget the coup de grase: paying the other side’s attorney’s fees. And Gawker seriously lawyered up.

Jesus. I’m almost starting to feel bad for the little turd.

Almost.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:44:56pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

C’mon-Greta probably signed one of those billion year contracts.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:48:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:48:48pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus. I’m almost starting to feel bad for the little turd.

Almost.

I’d feel sorry for HotAsianWife, but I hear she’s as or close to as batshit as he is.

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:49:36pm

re: #150 makeitstop

They’re gonna put a beating on the little shitweasel.

He’ll be up to his ass in discovery requests by Labor Day.

That is, unless Hulk Hogan puts the hurt on Gawker in court first.

Between Chuck, Gawker, and Hogan, this is a situation where one hopes no one wins.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:51:15pm

re: #181 BeachDem

His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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Heh. I did a Google search with Mitt Romney Benghazi Press Conference and up came a link to a YouTube. I’d post the YouTube so that it is embedded, but I’m going to give the link. Check out who owns the YouTube account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5f0IC3tWyU

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:51:31pm

re: #211 TedStriker

That is, unless Hulk Hogan puts the hurt on Gawker in court first.

Between Chuck, Gawker, and Hogan, this is a situation where one hopes no one wins.

And that Condé Nast guy they outed

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:51:49pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus. I’m almost starting to feel bad for the little turd.

Almost.

The only way to save himself is to not be Chuck, and drop the suit. He’s screwed.

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:51:51pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

He made a huge mistake by doing this. It’s going to end up bankrupting him.

I’d be surprised if Chuck had two pennies to rub together to begin with (that weren’t HotAsianWife’s).

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whitebeach  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:52:15pm

re: #181 BeachDem

His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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Speaking of this obviously urgent and yooge national issue of BENGHAZI, when was the last time Gowdy and his committee actually called a witness?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:54:05pm

These are Gawker’s law firms:

lewisrice.com
lskslaw.com

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:54:21pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Yes, it’s done. When all the people involved are in different states and the amount is over $75000, the defendant can unilaterally move the case to federal court.

Chuck is so fucked, that is, if Hulk Hogan doesn’t gut Gawker like a trout in court first.

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:56:13pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus. I’m almost starting to feel bad for the little turd.

Almost.

Even if I could work up a little sympathy for him, I’d refrain.

He’s hurt way too many people. His turn now.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:59:13pm

re: #183 piratedan

I know Steve, I know… if the gospels are to be believed, he was arrested by Roman authorities, tried by Roman Law and then subjected to Roman punishment yet it’s the Jews that take the hit. The scary thing is, we see this pattern of derangement in damn near every wingnut argument that comes down the pike. Democrats are the real racists etc etc etc…

Why just today (or was it yesterday), that right-wing genius, Tom, Dead-Eyes, Cotton, creator of the infamous (treasonous) letter to Iran, compared John Kerry to Pontius Pilate.

Good times!

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2015 • 4:59:28pm

re: #216 whitebeach

Speaking of this obviously urgent and yooge national issue of BENGHAZI, when was the last time Gowdy and his committee actually called a witness?

They’re on hiatus until Hillary nails down the nomination.

/ but I kinda think that’s exactly what they’ll do.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:00:30pm

Go, if only to see his carvings:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:02:22pm

re: #220 BeachDem

Why just today (or was it yesterday), that right-wing genius, Tom, Dead-Eyes, Cotton, creator of the infamous (treasonous) letter to Iran, compared John Kerry to Pontius Pilate.

Good times!

I did see that. What the fuck.

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jayjaybear  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:02:59pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The really, truly interesting thing about that graphic is, “Brothers, we need to talk.” Even when they’re trying to appeal to a whole different demographic on this, they can’t let go of the idea that it’s MEN who should be making these decisions. I mean, MY first instinct if I were an anti-choicer trying to convince African-Americans to join my side of the fence would be to try to persuade the actual people who HAVE abortions to at least listen to my arguments instead of trying to convince the people who DON’T and CAN’T have abortions to do so.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:04:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:05:35pm

re: #224 jayjaybear

The really, truly interesting thing about that graphic is, “Brothers, we need to talk.” Even when they’re trying to appeal to a whole different demographic on this, they can’t let go of the idea that it’s MEN who should be making these decisions. I mean, MY first instinct if I were an anti-choicer trying to convince African-Americans to join my side of the fence would be to try to persuade the actual people who HAVE abortions to at least listen to my arguments instead of trying to convince the people who DON’T and CAN’T have abortions to do so.

Well it’s always been a men’s movement. Not to say there aren’t a lot of anti-choice women out there but ti’s always been about men and that salutation got at it even though I doubt that was their explicit intention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:07:16pm

oh good freaking grief. Louise can’t be bothered to even find out who Alice is before attacking her on Twitter:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:08:12pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freaking grief. Louise can’t be bothered to even find out who Alice is before attacking her on Twitter:

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What’s this about?

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Jenner7  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:08:48pm

Oh my god, look at how he’s twisting her arm.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:09:31pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

If Chuck has a single functioning brain cell left, he’ll drop the case. He can’t win, and his lawyer should be telling him that if he has any ethics at all. (Which is doubtful.)

But I suspect his egomania won’t let him do that.

Remember John Burns, the guy who teamed up with James O’Keefe to falsely accuse Washington University of oppressing free speech, then tried to sabotage a marriage equality rally, then heroically lost a public transportation ballot initiative in humiliating fashion by claiming the Republican Mayor of Chesterfield personally ordered police to shut down a tea party protest, oh, and who helped O’Keefe come up with a plan to sexually humiliate a CNN reporter?

What’s he been up to?

He’s been lawyerin for Chuck C. Johnson, that’s what!

stlactivisthub.blogspot.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:09:42pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

What’s this about?

The Tim Hunt debacle. Louise is Tim’s #1 defender and for some reason she is very VERY upset with Alice’s opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:10:56pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Tim Hunt debacle. Louise is Tim’s #1 defender and for some reason she is very VERY upset with Alice’s opinion.

If you don’t mind, refresh my memory Tim Hunt?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:11:44pm

Another year older tomorrow. meh.no shows that look worth seeing. No friends to meet up with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:13:27pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

If you don’t mind, refresh my memory Tim Hunt?

2001 Nobel Prize winner in medicine. He made a sexist “joke” about girls in the lab and caught all kinds of flack for it on social media.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:14:15pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

2001 Nobel Prize winner in medicine. He made a sexist “joke” about girls in the lab and caught all kinds of flack for it on social media.

Oh yeah, thanks. Had forgotten about that.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:16:17pm

re: #216 whitebeach

Speaking of this obviously urgent and yooge national issue of BENGHAZI, when was the last time Gowdy and his committee actually called a witness?

Now that future president, Lindsey Graham, has suggested that Trey would be an ideal Supreme Court Justice (I can hardly type that for the laughing) he’s probably too busy prepping for his closeup.

But seriously folks, it seems wittle Trey is vewwy fwustwated about not getting all the emails he wants, so not sure when they actually called a witness instead of going on CNN to whine.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:17:37pm

re: #236 BeachDem

Now that future president, Lindsey Graham, has suggested that Trey would be an ideal Supreme Court Justice (I can hardly type that for the laughing) he’s probably too busy prepping for his closeup.

But seriously folks, it seems wittle Trey is vewwy fwustwated about not getting all the emails he wants, so not sure when they actually called a witness instead of going on CNN to whine.

That Graham thinks Gowdy would make a good Supreme Court justice. That alone makes me wonder about his judgment. I am sure he’s just doing it though so the Twitter nuts won’t say mean things about him though.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:19:11pm

re: #130 freetoken

I’m about to depart on a sekrit mission, so I’ll be radio silent for some days.

Don’t get caught.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:20:51pm

At least I finally got auto-posting to the LGF Facebook page working again. I’ve been wrestling with this problem on and off for two freaking months and getting nowhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:23:30pm

heh..Louise Mensch gets pwned:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:26:21pm

It’re: #238 Romantic Heretic

Don’t get caught.

But if you do, remember - it’s in the second molar on the lower right side. Bite down and inhale.

And then the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:27:16pm

re: #160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When they tell me their God is going to get me, I always say: “Yeah, I’ve got an iron chariot parked right out back—I ain’t worried.”

Some trust in chariots.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:27:17pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh..Louise Mensch gets pwned:

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This is all too ‘inside baseball’ for me. And I work in Science.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:28:06pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I heard a partial exchange on BBC World Service. Tom Cotton is a fucktard. He accused the New York Times in their publishing an article about the Bush administration’s secret program on tracing terrorist financing, calling on the writers to be arrested for treason. (Yes, this douchebag, when in active service as a 1LT.)

Cotton isn’t man enough to lick Kerry’s boots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:29:06pm

re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White

This is all too ‘inside baseball’ for me. And I work in Science.

Louise just loves to be outraged, facts be damned.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:30:47pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Louise just loves to be outraged, facts be damned.

Oh. One of those.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:32:24pm

People can get married in our county again. All sorts of people.

dothaneagle.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:32:56pm

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

Popehat chimes in in this-it ain’t pretty. Gawker will probably be able to skate here, If Ken’s analysis holds up.

I avoid Gawker’s main site as I treat them like I treat Faux News.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:33:27pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Don’t have an answer for you yet—our state guy was tied up with two events ‘cause Hillary was in SC today—hopefully, tomorrow.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:33:49pm

There goes Obama. Ignoring ISIS like always.

bbc.com

Turkey is to let the US carry out airstrikes against the Islamic State group from a key military base near the Syrian border, US officials have said.

The agreement, yet to be confirmed by Ankara, follows months of negotiations.

The deal comes after Turkey and IS fighters exchanged fire near the Turkey-Syria border, with one soldier killed and two more injured.

On Monday, 32 people were killed in a suicide attack in a Turkish town on the Syrian border blamed on IS.

The agreement was finalised in a phone call between President Barack Obama and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday. It was confirmed by US officials speaking on condition of anonymity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:35:41pm

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

There goes Obama. Ignoring ISIS like always.

Obama makes deal with Muslim!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:36:41pm

re: #249 BeachDem

Don’t have an answer for you yet—our state guy was tied up with two events ‘cause Hillary was in SC today—hopefully, tomorrow.

To avoid semi-doxxing someone, just need a pointer to a working, open, webpresence for a volunteer coordinator who knows a volunteer coordinator.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:37:14pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

Obama makes deal with Muslim!

Marco Rubio will be on Fox to call Obama classless for doing this.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:37:39pm

Everyone knows the story about Ann Dunham sneaking her wee little anti-Christ past Honolulu Airport security wrapped in swaddling clothes and patchouli oil, but less reported is how she managed to take off from Jakarta International Airport in the first place.

Roll the video tape:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:37:48pm

re: #244 Eric The Fruit Bat

I heard a partial exchange on BBC World Service. Tom Cotton is a fucktard. He accused the New York Times in their publishing an article about the Bush administration’s secret program on tracing terrorist financing, calling on the writers to be arrested for treason. (Yes, this douchebag, when in active service as a 1LT.)

Cotton isn’t man enough to lick Kerry’s boots.

Yeah I think I heard about that. Asshole.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:38:30pm
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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:44:59pm

re: #256 #FergusonFireside

Like with Brown, Garner, and Rice, things are slowly coming together to make sure that the fix will be in once more.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:48:15pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:49:13pm

Why does Mark Rubio always sound like the allegations he is making are not believable, even to him?

I swear, to me he sounds like it is all prepared facts that he looked up but never read them so he has no clue what he is saying and he knows it?

Everything is gathered and uttered for political punch but no actual conviction as he may know it is bullshit, but he has to say it anyway.

Anyone else get that vibe from him?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:51:26pm

re: #254 De Kolta Chair

Everyone knows the story about Ann Dunham sneaking her wee little anti-Christ past Honolulu Airport security wrapped in swaddling clothes and patchouli oil, but less reported is how she managed to take off from Jakarta International Airport in the first place.

Roll the video tape:

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Video

That’s so cheesy, This one is better.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:53:11pm

re: #252 Decatur Deb

To avoid semi-doxxing someone, just need a pointer to a working, open, webpresence for a volunteer coordinator who knows a volunteer coordinator.

I want to get you a real contact—will make sure it’s “discreet” when I get it to you or will point you to an open web-way to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:53:21pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

Why does Mark Rubio always sound like the allegations he is making are not believable, even to him?

I swear, to me he sounds like it is all prepared facts that he looked up but never read them so he has no clue what he is saying and he knows it?

Everything is gathered and uttered for political punch but no actual conviction as he may know it is bullshit, but he has to say it anyway.

Anyone else get that vibe from him?

Because he’s a hack. He was going to be their golden boy. Their way of getting young people and Hispanics but he blew his load on his SOTU response and managed to piss off both sides of the GOP immigration debate. He’s just a sad little man IMO. That he resorted to likening Obama to Trump recently to score MBF brownie points shows how low he’s gone.

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:54:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:55:53pm

Somebody should have told Ben Affleck the jet wash from a 747 at takeoff speed would have blown all those vehicles into a scrambled pile of scrap metal.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:56:22pm

re: #263 darthstar

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Loves Canada so much that he renounced his Canadian citizenship. I bet he prefers Bud to Molson’s, the rat bastard.//

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:58:03pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

That’s so cheesy, This one is better.
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Hey, fellow Greg Iles fan. You know how in some of his Penn Cage books he writes about how fucked up and corrupt the Texas crime labs are. Do you think he’s basing that storyline on fact or fiction?

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 5:59:45pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Because he’s a hack. He was going to be their golden boy. Their way of getting young people and Hispanics but he blew his load on his SOTU response and managed to piss off both sides of the GOP immigration debate. He’s just a sad little man IMO. That he resorted to likening Obama to Trump recently to score MBF brownie points shows how low he’s gone.

And if he suddenly rises, I wonder if anyone will bring up all of his financial “improprieties” in Florida.

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:01:36pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Loves Canada so much that he renounced his Canadian citizenship. I bet he prefers Bud to Molson’s, the rat bastard.//

Well, some people like the taste of watered-down Clydesdale piss…

///

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:03:32pm

re: #267 BeachDem

And if he suddenly rises, I wonder if anyone will bring up all of his financial “improprieties” in Florida.

Ooooh?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:03:55pm

re: #268 TedStriker

Well, some people like the taste of watered-down Clydesdale piss…

///

Don’t blame me, I drink Dogfish Head.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:06:13pm

Sure doesn’t sound like somebody who’s about to kill herself.

“Hey this is me. I just was able to see the judge…They have me set at a $5,000 bond. I’m still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process, how switching lanes with no turn signal turn into all this? I don’t even know. But I’m still here, so, I guess call me back when you can.”

rawstory.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:09:32pm

re: #271 BeachDem

Sure doesn’t sound like somebody who’s about to kill herself.

“Hey this is me. I just was able to see the judge…They have me set at a $5,000 bond. I’m still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process, how switching lanes with no turn signal turn into all this? I don’t even know. But I’m still here, so, I guess call me back when you can.”

rawstory.com

Suicides are unpredictable but yes I would definitely agree. I don’t believe she killed herself. Just stating that suicides are unpredictable.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:11:50pm

re: #181 BeachDem

His hideous, smirking BENGHAZI press conference was the worst.

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Reminds me how during the 2008 foreign policy debate with Obama, McCain zinged what he, judging by the well-rehearsed grin on this face, was absolutely certain was going to be his knock-out punch line, “He doesn’t know the difference between strategy and tactics!” and nobody in the audience reacted to it.

Republicans and foreign policy go together like pizza and green beans.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:17:00pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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OMG! This is TOO delicious!

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:17:58pm

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Ooooh?

For starters:

Could Rubio’s Past Slip-Ups Haunt a White House Bid?
During his years in Florida, Marco Rubio seemed to have quite a few “clerical errors.”

motherjones.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:23:40pm

re: #275 BeachDem

For starters:

Could Rubio’s Past Slip-Ups Haunt a White House Bid?
During his years in Florida, Marco Rubio seemed to have quite a few “clerical errors.”

motherjones.com

Very interesting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:24:51pm

re: #266 BeachDem

Hey, fellow Greg Iles fan. You know how in some of his Penn Cage books he writes about how fucked up and corrupt the Texas crime labs are. Do you think he’s basing that storyline on fact or fiction?

Oh no it’s pure fiction. The Texas crime labs are utter paragons of ethics and professionalism!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:29:53pm

re: #277 The Vicious Babushka

Oh no it’s pure fiction. The Texas crime labs are utter paragons of ethics and professionalism!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

So, you’re thinking fiction!
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:43:26pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

If Gawker is able to anti-SLAPP Chuck, he’s going to be on the hook for A LOT of money.

I wasn’t aware of CA’s Anti-SLAPP laws. If Wikipedia is accurate, and that’s where Gawker’s lawyers are headed, he’s in a lot of trouble, and neither he nor his lawyer likely have the brains to see the train coming.

“Life is tough. It’s tougher when you’re stupid.”

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Joe Bacon  Jul 23, 2015 • 6:58:26pm

re: #212 ObserverArt

Heh. I did a Google search with Mitt Romney Benghazi Press Conference and up came a link to a YouTube. I’d post the YouTube so that it is embedded, but I’m going to give the link. Check out who owns the YouTube account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5f0IC3tWyU

ROTFLMAO!

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 23, 2015 • 7:58:37pm

Charles Johnson,

At this point, I bet practically the entire GOP leadership wishes Hillary supporters started it, so they could use it to attack her. Than they could say, look at how loony her supporters are! Do you really want her in the White House?


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