Sunday Night Jam: The Bird and the Bee, “Los Angeles”
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Here’s another track from the great new album by The Bird and The Bee, singing the praises of the City of the Angels.
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Dark_Falcon is probably the most mysterious and maddening figure at LGF. I’ve thought about it some, and Dark_Falcon’s undying support for a political party that is realistically and fundamentally *against* many things that Dark_Falcon is for (women’s rights, pro-science, anti-war) is truly perplexing.
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re: #7 teleskiguy
Dark_Falcon is probably the most mysterious and maddening figure at LGF. I’ve thought about it some, and Dark_Falcon’s undying support for a political party that is realistically and fundamentally *against* many things that Dark_Falcon is for (women’s rights, pro-science, anti-war) is truly perplexing.
“Honor thy mother and thy father” is very much more real to him than many of us - and his concept of what it means to honor them is different as well. For him that requires a rather blind allegiance to the GOP that his father supports. To honor my mother and father required independent thinking and you were expected to defend your ideas.
There is also, I sometimes think, a small streak of him on the Spectrum. This shows up most often in his very literal nature and in his inability to sometimes see that there is a social inappropriateness to when he brings up military or firearms related topics. I am far more inclined to agree with him than most here on some of those topics but I’m also usually better at knowing when to shut up (not always but then, no one is).
He stays here because he knows, deep inside, that he really is much more moderate than he sometimes portrays. I try to remind him of that via pointing out Rome’s social justice teachings that are getting renewed emphasis under the current pontiff. Were the old Rockefeller Rupblicans like Gerry Ford still a real segment in that party, that’s probably where DF would be most comfortable - significantly liberal socially while holding to fairly old school economic thinking.
I like DF a whole lot and it would be as great a loss as how little we see of SFZ if he were to leave.
re: #8 teleskiguy
This is what I worry about. There are regular incidents of software updates borking smartphones. Imagine if the same were to happen with a Fridge (and all the food spoiled) or an electrical system (and the AC cut out in the middle of summer heat and couldn’t be restored) or an oven (that malfunctioned and cause a fire) and of course the example from the post above of the connected car.
Technology is great…when it works.
re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
The problem with a fully integrated system is that its a fully integrated system.
For those of you who like reading/writing stories:
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And this, because it’s been bugging me since I saw it. WTF—it’s not enough that the kid is a refugee and is out trying to help his family by selling tissues, this douchebag restaurant manager has to beat him bloody? I hope he goes to jail, or at least gets a good ass-kicking from someone:
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— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) July 27, 2015
Anyway, time to get ready for Monday morning. Later, lizards.
re: #9 William Lewis
There is also, I sometimes think, a small streak of him on the Spectrum. This shows up most often in his very literal nature and in his inability to sometimes see that there is a social inappropriateness to when he brings up military or firearms related topics. I am far more inclined to agree with him than most here on some of those topics but I’m also usually better at knowing when to shut up (not always but then, no one is).
QFT
I like Dark_Falcon too, mostly because he likes a lot of the stuff I post here as evidenced by his many updings of my comments. Regardless of his “spectrum” I think he also gets a kick out of razzing the audience, saying things that he knows will piss people off. There’s a perverse pleasure in that, I know, I’m a child of the internet and I’ve totally been a troll here and there.
“Honor thy mother and thy father” is very much more real to him than many of us - and his concept of what it means to honor them is different as well. For him that requires a rather blind allegiance to the GOP that his father supports. To honor my mother and father required independent thinking and you were expected to defend your ideas.
In the end, he needs to be his own man and think for himself. I tire of folks who cling to patriarchy and matriarchy. I come from a long line of folks who were able to shed the ugliness of their kin and embrace the better angels of their nature. Dark_Falcon seems quite resistant to such thinking. And that’s sad.
re: #12 teleskiguy
I miss SFZ too.
SFZ had her hands full with the baby, but the real reason probably lies in one thing she once wrote, namely, that LGF used to be a safe space for Israel supporters and if things changed toward a more critical stance, she probably wouldn’t be here (or something to this effect). Well, things did change toward a more critical (and, I would say, more balanced) stance, esp. in light of the Obama-Netanyahu rift.
That said, she was a voice of reason (also on Israel), and she is missed.
re: #9 William Lewis
I like DF a whole lot and it would be as great a loss as how little we see of SFZ if he were to leave.
Yes, we need more diversity, not less (as long as it doesn’t come to bigotry, of course).
I really hate to be critical of fellow lizards. Thing is, I found a place (LGF!) on the internet where I’m comfortable sharing what I *really* think and I’ve been surfing the internet for almost 20 years. I will call out bullshit here, and there’s a pronounced source of bullshit at LGF and his name is Dark_Falcon.
Dark_Falcon, I’m not doggin’ on ya, I’m not being mean-spirited and I don’t want you to leave LGF. I value your contributions, really, I do. But you’re just *fucking* wrong on issue after issue and you are a hopeless Republican voter. A Republican can advocate for destructive laissez-faire policies on fucking whatever and you just nod your head. Frankly, it pisses me off and makes me despondent on the condition of the American body politic.
Here is a top political commentator of the state “1st channel” Anton Vernitsky in all his glory:
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USA… We caught a taxi. The driver was a Hindu in a turban. We told him where we should go and then began to speak in Russian. After all he doesn’t understand anything!
At first we joked: “What a mug! And what a funny turban!”. Then we began to think out loud how to get more of the blank cheques from him. In order to write off more travel expenses.
So, we’re discussing the criminal plan. Without shyness. After all he won’t understand. Someone proposes: “You distract him when we arrive, and I’ll snatch the cheques. They lie there. A whole staple!”
And, with laughter, “If he resists, we’ll fuck him up. That is, hit him on the head. Ha ha!”. We have arrived… And the Hindu says in the purest Russian: “Don’t fuck me up! I’ll give you the cheques myself!”
Turned out he had studied in USSR in Lumumbarium… Probably was a straight-A student…
These people run Russia.
re: #18 Nyet
Talk about the stereotype of an “ignorant American”. We Russians have on top in that area too, it seems. *smh*
re: #18 Nyet
Here is a top political commentator of the state “1st channel” Anton Vernitsky in all his glory:
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These people run Russia.
We had some colleagues in our Moscow office in the early 90’s who had retained their Communist Party cards.
When I asked one of them why he would continue to associate with an organization that had obviously landed on the scrap-heap of history, he gave me a steely look and declared “My pobedím.” (We will triumph).
Now I understand what he was talking about.
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re: #7 teleskiguy
Dark_Falcon is probably the most mysterious and maddening figure at LGF. I’ve thought about it some, and Dark_Falcon’s undying support for a political party that is realistically and fundamentally *against* many things that Dark_Falcon is for (women’s rights, pro-science, anti-war) is truly perplexing.
There was a time when I was at least prepared to consider a GOP candidate, and I think I even voted for a few for local offices.
And although I really do not want to vote for Hillary for Prez in 2016, I cannot begin to imagine voting for anyone who wins the GOP nomination.
re: #20 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Now I understand what he was talking about.
Yes, he was joking.
re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
At this point, I question the ethics, judgement and integrity of any politician who identifies themselves as Republican. I cannot vote for even a so called “moderates” based on the fact they will choose to side with the rabid lunatic fringe of his party on important issues just to maintain their party standing and support.
re: #23 Nyet
Yes, he was joking.
He belonged to the class of people who lived quite well under Communism, had a job as a university lecturer, a private chauffeur and a three-room apartment in a nice part of town.
re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I know this kind.
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— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 27, 2015
re: #26 Nyet
I know this kind.
He was generally quite funny and affable, but I will never forget the stare he gave me when I asked him about his party affiliation.
re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The party affiliation doesn’t really help anyone tho.
re: #27 teleskiguy
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People are glossing over the fact that the Lafayette theater shootings were obviously targeted against women and feminism by a fellow who was clearly and openly opposed to them, just as the SC shootings were targeted against blacks by a fellow who was clearly and openly racist
The film he chose to shoot up was no coincidence. But that discussion seems to have been overshadowed by the endless “moar gunz is the anser” arguments.
re: #29 Nyet
The party affiliation doesn’t really help anyone tho.
The party itself has become irrelevant, but its former members and adherents have gone on to triumph over Russia
re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The party itself has become irrelevant, but its former members and adherents have gone on to triumph over Russia
Not sure what you mean. “Triumph” implies they were not in power at some point. You probably forgot that Yeltsin was a big party poobah.
re: #32 Nyet
And since the party used to have all the power, it only makes sense that those who had been in the party (or “nearby”) are disproportionately represented in the power structures. Regardless of the views they may have now. So this observation about former party members isn’t really informative.
re: #32 Nyet
Not sure what you mean. “Triumph” implies they were not in power at some point. You probably forgot that Yeltsin was a big party poobah.
The guys like Putin who were once minor low-level functionaries hung the old guys at the top out to dry and went on to seize power. I understand now that that was the long-term plan.
The modern Russian Communist Party is just a relic, the real power has moved on.
re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The guys like Putin who were once minor low-level functionaries like Puptin hung the old guys at the top out to dry and went on to seize power. I understand now that that was the long-term plan.
If one believes in global conspiracies, Illuminati and such, this may not look like a hare-brained explanation of what happened, may even make sense. If one has a sense of history and prefers the real-world explanations - not so much.
The modern Russian Communist Party is just a relic, the real power has moved on.
Sure. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with the symbolism of having carried a party card.
re: #35 Nyet
If one believes in global conspiracies, Illuminati and such, this may not look like a hare-brained explanation of what happened, may even make sense. If one has a sense of history and prefers the real-world explanations - not so much.
Sure. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with the symbolism of having carried a party card.
We seem to concur that the people in power nowadays were once associated with the party and used it as a springboard to their positions of power.
And I saw the 1991 putsch attempt as them simply hanging the Old Guard out to dry and then letting chaos reign for a while so the people would welcome a strong authoritarian ruler to restore order.
re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
And I saw the 1991 putsch attempt as them simply hanging the Old Guard out to dry and then letting chaos reign for a while so the people would welcome a strong authoritarian ruler to restore order.
Again, teleological explanations are basically CTs. You don’t seem to appreciate the historical contingencies that ruled the day back then. Nothing was foreordained, and there’s not a hint of any “plan”, when you actually understand the details.
It’s no more reasonable than someone saying that Obama’s election was a long-term plan by the evil leftist forces for the radical transformation of America.
Obama’s election may as well have been “inevitable” in a sense (if not now, then in 10 years, if not Obama, then someone similar). That’s the flow of history. But that history flows within certain (very wide) “banks” and along some (very general) vectors doesn’t mean that there’s a “plan”.
re: #37 Nyet
Not a long-term conspiracy but rather quick thinking low-level people (like Putin and his generation) developing plans to fit in with contingencies as they developed.
Nobody really expected the Old Guard to behave so ineptly while trying to purge Gorbachev, and I think that the reason they failed was not love of Gorbachev but the people’s general disgust with the old system.
re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Not a long-term conspiracy but rather quick thinking low-level people (like Putin and his generation) developing plans to fit in with contingencies as they developed.
Nobody really expected the Old Guard to behave so ineptly while trying to purge Gorbachev, and I think that the reason they failed was not love of Gorbachev but the people’s general disgust with the old system.
That’s a Rube Goldberg scheme of history, I’m afraid.
So how did Putin’s generation of mid-level operatives come into power?
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The first person I ever followed on Twitter is Charles F. Johnson. True story.
re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
So how did Putin’s generation of mid-level operatives come into power?
Already explained above. Power “rubs off” on groups. If you had been in the Komsomol (which was not the Party as such strictly speaking, it was its youth org) it means you had been closer to the elite than if you had been some village hick. If you were pretty close to the elite, though maybe not at the very corrupt head of the party, you had a better chance of “making” it (provided some other personal qualities like industriousness) in the new Russia. Simply automatically so, because you had more “resources”.
And it doesn’t matter what your views were. Lots of the oligarchs were former Komsomol guys, for example. Meaning: young enough (think 30s) and “industrious” enough. And most of the oligarchs were very anti-Communistic. The architects of Russia’s new economy were former Commies turned neo-liberals, like Yegor Gaidar, who used to edit the Communist journal, and then turned into a prophet of capitalism, not to mention anti-Communism.
The point is, the ideology doesn’t matter (and ideology would matter in the scheme you propose). What mattered was not some individual ideological predisposition (former Party/Komsomol members had views all around the political spectrum). What mattered was one’s place in society.
Think “party privilege” as “white privilege” for a moment. Being white in the US doesn’t mean you’re a racist old Republican, but inevitably you have somewhat better chances of making it over other groups, statistically speaking. Through no accomplishment or fault of your own, in many cases.
re: #42 Nyet
That is what I was getting at. Not necessarily party members, but party operatives. And ideology was already a hollow concept, especially after the Brezhnev era.
And during my brief window into Russian life (1992-93) I talked to a lot of people who seemed content to trade in their chimerical freedoms for stability and order in their lives.
Young people were able to adapt to the new situation, but most of the older generation simply saw their jobs and savings disappear and had no idea where to turn.
re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That is what I was getting at.
No, you also said that the mythical monolithic “they” “allowed” the chaos in order to seize power and that’s just nonsense, sorry. Those connected to the old power structures always had the power. They were just never an ideological monolith, in fact all the factions were bitter enemies. But most of them, whether Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais, or Putin, Medvedev and Ivanov, stem from that old power system.
Was there some lying in wait involved for some bitter clingers? Certainly. Was there any long-term plan? Nope.
re: #44 Nyet
No, you also said that the mythical monolithic “they” “allowed” the chaos in order to seize power and that’s just nonsense, sorry. Those connected to the old power structures always had the power. They were just never an ideological monolith, in fact all the factions were bitter enemies. But most of them, whether Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais, or Putin, Medvedev and Ivanov, stem from that old power system.
Was there some lying in wait involved for some bitter clingers? Certainly. Was there any long-term plan? Nope.
not the mythical monolithic “they”, I meant the young lower-level people who saw a chance to seize power and took steps to seize it.
re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
not the mythical monolithic “they”, I meant the young lower-level people who saw a chance to seize power and took steps to seize it.
And that happened in 1991.
The chaos in Russia was by no means planned. Not by the CIA, as the Russian patriots think. Not by the middle level party guys, as proposed above. It was an inevitable part of the transition period. Occam + Hanlon and all that.
re: #48 Nyet
The chaos in Russia was by no means planned. Not by the CIA, as the Russian patriots think. Not by the middle level party guys, as proposed above. It was an inevitable part of the transition period. Occam + Hanlon and all that.
It was not actively planned, but it simply happened because nobody thought things through. Nobody made any great attempts to ameliorate the inevitable chaos. Unlike Czechoslovakia, which sat down and planned its transition to the Czech Republic and Slovakia, the USSR just fell apart.
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re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
People did try to think some things through, but the events were too rapid and the circumstances were too complex for anyone to think much through. There’s no comparison with Czechoslovakia, which de facto consisted of only two ethnically homogenous states. If one has to compare, it’s with Yugoslavia, and we know how things were there. The centrifugal forces were pulling the country apart and the grand poobahs weren’t the decides, they could barely keep up with the events that were happening despite anyone’s intentions all over USSR simultaneously.
re: #50 darthstar
He should rot in prison. In pink undies.
re: #52 Nyet
He should rot in prison. In pink undies.
People in Arizona wanted Law and Order writ big, but they wanted Low Taxes writ even bigger. Sheriff Joe was the logical outcome.
And a false economy at that: he has cost the state millions of dollars in lawsuits.
re: #51 Nyet
People did try to think some things through, but the events were too rapid and the circumstances were too complex for anyone to think much through. There’s no comparison with Czechoslovakia, which de facto consisted of only two ethnically homogenous states. If one has to compare, it’s with Yugoslavia, and we know how things were there. The centrifugal forces were pulling the country apart and the grand poobahs weren’t the decides, they could barely keep up with the events that were happening despite anyone’s intentions all over USSR simultaneously.
There was some thinking—on the US side. By the mid-80s, you started to hear the question “How do we soft-land the USSR?”
Arpaio is a personage straight from Stephen King’s novels.
PS: I’ve finally begun reading Doctor Sleep.
re: #7 teleskiguy
Dark_Falcon is probably the most mysterious and maddening figure at LGF. I’ve thought about it some, and Dark_Falcon’s undying support for a political party that is realistically and fundamentally *against* many things that Dark_Falcon is for (women’s rights, pro-science, anti-war) is truly perplexing.
I’m not ‘anti-war’, I’m against warring stupidly. If military action is needed to remove an enemy that can or has become a major threat. then I’m in favor of said action. But I don’t favor military action as a first response if other options are available and have a good change of working.
re: #56 Nyet
You failed.
This was from the military side. There was clearly going to be great suffering, and the opportunity for a whole spectrum of disastrous successor-states. The degree of outright slaughter was surprisingly low.
All nations are transitional.
re: #54 Decatur Deb
There was some thinking—on the US side. By the mid-80s, you started to hear the question “How do we soft-land the USSR?”
By buying it out and flipping it to the highest bidder…
re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
By buying it out and flipping it to the highest bidder…
Well, we are the Americans.
re: #58 Decatur Deb
The degree of outright slaughter was surprisingly low.
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Unless you count Chechnya. Otherwise, there were just some minor dust-ups in Turkmenistan, Transnistria and Azerbaijan/Armenia.
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
We’re talking different scales. No one popped a nuke.
As I understand, the rise of the oligarchs was brought about by the fear that foreign investors would gain control of the Russian oil industry. As a result, it was sold off to investors like Khodorkovsky at a fraction of its market value.
re: #58 Decatur Deb
What you are seeing now is a direct consequence of what happened then.
re: #62 Decatur Deb
We’re talking different scales. No one popped a nuke.
Although downtown Grozny pretty much looked like Hiroshima…
re: #64 Nyet
What you are seeing now is a direct consequence of what happened then.
Absolutely. No one had ever defused a nuclear-armed multi-ethnic empire before.
One thing that struck me about Russia was the attitude towards ostentatious display of wealth. Under the Soviet system, there were wealthy people, but they kept it low key and hidden away from the masses in their Party dacha estates (our company rented a cottage in one just outside the Moscow Ring Road near Rublevo).
Now that whole regions is plastered over with luxury villas.
re: #66 Decatur Deb
Absolutely. No one had ever defused a nuclear-armed multi-ethnic empire before.
We disarmed Kiev’s nukes in exchange for a promise to help them maintain their territorial integrity. Since we reneged on that part of the deal, shouldn’t we give them their weapons back?
re: #66 Decatur Deb
Not throwing the naive but sympathetic child into a lake full of ultra-neoliberal piranhas would seem like a reasonable course of action… in hindsight.
re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
We disarmed Kiev’s nukes in exchange for a promise to help them maintain their territorial integrity. Since we reneged on that part of the deal, shouldn’t we give them their weapons back?
I’ve said that before, though not very seriously. They fucked up—they trusted us.
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
I’m not ‘anti-war’, I’m against warring stupidly. If military action is needed to remove an enemy that can or has become a major threat. then I’m in favor of said action. But I don’t favor military action as a first response if other options are available and have a good change of working.
It is unfortunate that the GOP has become the party of “bomb first, sort out the details later”.
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re: #57 Dark_Falcon
I’m not ‘anti-war’, I’m against warring stupidly.
You sound like President Obama
re: #72 darthstar
Obama between two Satano-Communistic stars? Par for the course!/
re: #69 Nyet
Not throwing the naive but sympathetic child into a lake full of ultra-neoliberal piranhas would seem like a reasonable course of action… in hindsight.
We didn’t get what we most wanted, nor what we most feared. Neither the Illuminati nor the Pentagon was directing post-Soviet history.
re: #75 Decatur Deb
Or more like, the powers that be in DC were of the same fundie-market ilk.
POTUS on Huckabee comments: “Part of just a general pattern we have seen that would be considered ridiculous if it weren’t so sad.”
— Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) July 27, 2015
NY Post article on Hillary:
If Hillary Clinton were a cartoon character, she’d be Snidely Whiplash, forever muttering to herself, “Curses, foiled again.” And she’d be right.
The lady in waiting will have to keep waiting. Probably forever. Fate has spoken.
Already threatened by a growing trust deficit with voters, her would-be majesty now faces an even more lethal adversary. It’s called the truth, though she probably sees it as a vast, left-wing conspiracy.
The news that two inspectors general from the Obama administration want the Justice Department to investigate her handling of classified material is a potential game changer. For many Democrats, it will serve as final proof she is fatally flawed.
It is of my opinion that President Obama will throw his support behind Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
re: #77 Nyet
Or more like, the powers that be in DC were of the same fundie-market ilk.
To a great extent, though ours are more attuned to working in a rule-driven lawful capitalism (where they make the rules). Moscow seems to have adopted the Anthony Soprano model.
re: #79 Doofus
NY Post, the source whose credibility is on par with that other shining Murdoch outlet, Fox News.
re: #78 darthstar
POTUS on Huckabee comments: “Part of just a general pattern we have seen that would be considered ridiculous if it weren’t so sad.”
the adult in the room speaks…
re: #80 Decatur Deb
And those people - who had mulled about how to soft-land USSR - were not too unhappy about that.
re: #81 Nyet
Was there an inaccuracy in the article you would like to point out?
re: #83 Nyet
And those people - who had mulled about how to soft-land USSR - were not too unhappy about that.
Doubt they thought much about it. It wasn’t in their mission statement.
re: #84 Doofus
Was there an inaccuracy in the article you would like to point out?
I’ll bother with inaccuracies when you start quoting sources worth critiquing.
re: #18 Nyet
Here is a top political commentator of the state “1st channel” Anton Vernitsky in all his glory:
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These people run Russia.
LOL something similar happened at my daughter’s wedding. The servers at the catering hall were Russian and they were saying some rude things about the wedding guests, in Russian of course since they figured stupid Americans wouldn’t understand. My granddaughter, 10 years old, lived in Moscow until she was 9, marched over to the servers and said in perfect Russian “I know the people you’re talking about and I’ll tell them what you said about them, but if you bring ice cream sundaes for me and my sisters maybe I’ll forget about it.”
She has a great career ahead of her. :)
re: #85 Decatur Deb
They should have known though that shock therapy rarely helps or brings desired results.
re: #87 The Vicious Babushka
LOL something similar happened at my daughter’s wedding. The servers at the catering hall were Russian and they were saying some rude things about the wedding guests, in Russian of course since they figured stupid Americans wouldn’t understand. My granddaughter, 10 years old, lived in Moscow until she was 9, marched over to the servers and said in perfect Russian “I know the people you’re talking about and I’ll tell them what you said about them, but if you bring ice cream sundaes for me and my sisters maybe I’ll forget about it.”
She has a great career ahead of her. :)
It was like that in Germany for a while with the first big wave of Russian immigrants, they used to quite talk openly in public about their personal lives or make rude comments, thinking nobody would understand them. I usually did not let on until I was leaving the bus, train or park bench where I was eavesdropping.
re: #88 Nyet
They should have known though that shock therapy rarely helps or brings desired results.
It was all going to be a wild experiment from the Western side too. No one, not the humanitarians nor the profiteers, quite knew what they were doing. Even the corporate carrion-eaters could plausibly claim to be cleaning up while they cleaned up.
re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Soviet immigrants statistically speaking often constitute hardcore socially rightwing voting blocks. I’m thinking of both the US and Israel.
And I do mean to emphasize socially, economic side is a separate issue.
re: #91 Nyet
Soviet immigrants statistically speaking often constitute hardcore socially rightwing voting blocks. I’m thinking of both the US and Israel.
Thus Freeper Putin-love.
re: #93 Decatur Deb
They may even hate Putin, and vote for the ostensibly liberal (but right-wing) Russian parties if they still have the citizenship, but I’ve read enough of their, ahem, entitled attitudes towards minorities (be that blacks, Arabs or others). Soviet heritage, paradoxically.
re: #94 Nyet
They may even hate Putin, and vote for the ostensibly liberal (but right-wing) Russian parties if they still have the citizenship, but I’ve read enough of their, ahem, entitled attitudes towards minorities (be that blacks, Arabs or others). Soviet heritage, paradoxically.
Stalin gave anti-racism, class-levelling and atheism a bad name.
re: #91 Nyet
Soviet immigrants statistically speaking often constitute hardcore socially rightwing voting blocks. I’m thinking of both the US and Israel.
Look at the state of social legislation in Russia. When I got there in the early 1990’s, I was taken to the theater to see an all-male presentation of Jean Genet’s The Servants, about two lesbian servants plotting to kill their mistress.
It was a big deal for Moscow theater at the time, I was slightly amused, as such a production would not have raised an eyebrow in most Western cities.
But now, twenty years later, such a production would not be possible any more in Moscow.
re: #95 Decatur Deb
Not much to do directly with Stalin, esp. seeing the resurgence of ethnic Russian nationalism in his later years. And he wasn’t a flaming atheist either, calling the atheist agitprop “maculature”.
re: #73 darthstar
You sound like President Obama
He does in more ways that he doesn’t. As I’ve said before, Obama is the best R president since Ike…
re: #97 Nyet
Not much to do directly with Stalin, esp. seeing the resurgence of ethnic Russian nationalism in his later years. And he wasn’t a flaming atheist either, calling the atheist agitprop “maculature”.
Another ex-seminarian.
I blame the Romanovs.
The dog is making threats again. BBL.
re: #97 Nyet
Not much to do directly with Stalin, esp. seeing the resurgence of ethnic Russian nationalism in his later years. And he wasn’t a flaming atheist either, calling the atheist agitprop “maculature”.
There was always a conflict brewing under the surface of the USSR between the ideologically mandated internationalism on one hand and chauvinistic Russian nationalism on the other.
It was generally overlooked or ignored by US analysts as it did not fit in with the ideologially mandated image of the Soviet Monolith.
I suspect that that little useless fucker Destro was a bit too much for her.
re: #103 Nyet
I suspect that that little useless fucker Destro was a bit too much for her.
There were some Anti-Semites here for a short time during the “changeover” One was “War on Music” and the other kept changing his nic all the time. Both are banned now but they gave SFZ a hard time while they were here.
re: #78 darthstar
[media]Omg! Why is Obummer so divisive?? Where is my fainting couch and clutching pearls?[/media]
re: #79 Doofus
Already threatened by a growing trust deficit with voters, her would-be majesty now faces an even more lethal adversary.
This is ridiculous. What about King Dictator Obama’s Third Term?
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Pollard's Bureau of Prisons record already has his release date as Nov. 21, 2015; it's been scheduled all along, apparently. Not really new.
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 24, 2015
re: #84 Doofus
The “article,” which is actually only an opinion piece of propaganda, is inaccurate in every fact it attempts. The two inspectors have stated that the NYT story on which this is based was wrong and the Times has “corrected” it. Hillary still has healthy leads over all possible opponents. Assertions such as “Fate haas spoken” are not subject to fact-checking but are merely blabber, as are your little trolling posts.
re: #110 whitebeach
Cherry on top of the cake? Warren isn’t even running.
The new ST is so messed-up. I see I am not the only one who found this disturbing:
And racism is the fact that we all accept that it is white. Benedict Cumberbatch playing Khan in Star Trek. Khan, who is from India.
Is there anyone Whiter than Benedict fucking Cumberbatch? What?
They needed a “less racial” cast because they already had the
Black Uhura character?
The article is very powerful. Thus I paged it.
The reality of America is that White people are fundamentally good, and so when a white person commits a crime, it is a sign that they, as an individual, are bad. Their actions as a person are not indicative of any broader social construct. Even the fact that America has a growing number of violent hate groups, populated mostly by white men, and that nearly *all* serial killers are white men can not shadow the fundamental truth of white male goodness. In fact, we like White serial killers so much, we make mini-series about them.
White people are good as a whole, and only act badly as individuals.
NYPost is a yellow tabloid and it doesn’t pretend to be anything else. As much as I agree with the message of this front page, I can’t get over about how yellow and bad taste it is.
The TPGOP is sitting on a metric shit-ton of hundred dollar bills. If there were no concerted new/old media effort to scuttle HRC at this stage, it would be campaign malpractice.
re: #76 darthstar
Kenyan Muslim Wiccan.
Were does he find time between all the ceremonies, services and orgies?
re: #112 FemNaziBitch
Ricardo Montalban wasn’t an Indian either.
re: #116 Nyet
Ricardo Montalban wasn’t an Indian either.
Laurence Olivier wasn’t a Moor from Venice.
re: #117 Decatur Deb
Laurence Olivier wasn’t a Moor from Venice.
And most ethnic Russians in the American films are not played by ethnic Russians…
re: #110 whitebeach
LGF is a much better site when it isn’t an echo chamber. Thank you for putting in some research. huffingtonpost.com
re: #112 FemNaziBitch
The new ST is so messed-up. I see I am not the only one who found this disturbing:
The article is very powerful. Thus I paged it.
The ability of some fans to project ST onto normal life (which includes things like dating girls) is most impressive
re: #118 Nyet
And most ethnic Russians in the American films are not played by ethnic Russians…
We’d have more Italians as mafiosi, but they’re all under contract to be Cheyenne.
re: #119 Doofus
Yeah, the very first googling showed to me that the news about NYT’s corrections were everywhere. I sorta assumed it was common knowledge. *shrug*
re: #118 Nyet
And most ethnic Russians in the American films are not played by ethnic Russians…
What? You mean that Sean Connery was not a Lithuanian (Soviet, not Russian) when he played Marko Ramius in Hunt for Red October? /fainting couch
re: #123 lawhawk
What? You mean that Sean Connery was not Russian when he played Marko Ramius in Hunt for Red October? /fainting couch
Wasn’t he supposed to be Lithuanian?
re: #117 Decatur Deb
Laurence Olivier wasn’t a Moor from Venice.
To be fair, he did a pretty good impression.
re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Just updated to reflect - should have said Soviet or Lithuanian, not Russian.
re: #121 Decatur Deb
Not to speak of all the movies based on Shakespeare.
re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Wasn’t he supposed to be Lithuanian?
Having both read the book and seen the film, I also have that recollection…
Edit: Lithuanian SSR to be technical.
I get more exercised by Americans doing Shakespeare, which if you think about it is funny because for all we know the US accent is as close to Elizabethan English as Received Pronunciation is.
I’m all for black Spiderman. I also don’t see any problem with Cumberbatch’s Khan.
re: #81 Nyet
NY Post, the source whose credibility is on par with that other shining Murdoch outlet, Fox News.
It isn’t just the credibility, you can tell by the writing that the facts aren’t the point of the piece, it’s just a place to be filled with insults.
re: #131 Nyet
I’m all for black Spiderman. I also don’t see any problem with Cumberbatch’s Khan.
The goal is to get asses into theatre seats.
re: #123 lawhawk
(Ramius was Lithuanian) I wonder how many people realize that Damian Lewis, who played Dick Winters in Band of Brothers, is English!
re: #134 Decatur Deb
I understand the American problem with the issue of blackface, but taking things to extremes is not helpful to anyone.
re: #135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
(Ramius was Lithuanian) I wonder how many people realize that Damian Lewis, who played Dick Winters in Band of Brothers, is English!
I only caught one small slip that indicated his accent was not authentic, and that for him appearing over ten episodes…and Dexter Fletcher, who plays Sgt Martin, is also an English actor.
Anybody see Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder? He was black all over.
re: #138 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Anybody see Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder? He was black all over.
The first fifteen minutes of that movie was brilliant comedy, the rest was self-indulgent drivel.
Another SCOTUS ruling that will be challenged in the guise of “state’s rights”.
Just wait.
re: #116 Nyet
Ricardo Montalban wasn’t an Indian either.
No, yet he was dark-skinned and could reasonably be cast as Khan. Cumberbatch was a joke.
re: #142 FemNaziBitch
No, yet he was dark-skinned and could reasonably be cast as Khan. Cumberbatch was a joke.
Cumberbatch was great.
re: #130 iossarian
I get more exercised by Americans doing Shakespeare, which if you think about it is funny because for all we know the US accent is as close to Elizabethan English as Received Pronunciation is.
Appalachian dialect.
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Up to the point where the director steps on a land mine, and the Tom Cruise bits are great.
re: #145 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Up to the point where the director steps on a land mine, and the Tom Cruise bits are great.
Yep, that was about the point. And the intro “previews” are brilliant.
re: #119 Doofus
LGF is a much better site when it isn’t an echo chamber. Thank you for putting in some research. huffingtonpost.com
WTF is your problem? You prefer a right-wing echo chamber? You could try finding a way-back machine and living in the past. When I posted the Pages regarding this subject last night, I didn’t run across the NYT correction.
Did you bother to post it in any of the comment of those Pages? I would have appreciated the update.
But stick around, try to make us think you are worth reading.
Clark Gable wasn’t southern, nor we’re most of the main actors in GWTW. Thank God though that somebody had enough sense not to make Rhett seriously attempt a southern accent.
re: #148 Decatur Deb
Anthony Quinn wasn’t Greek, and not US-born.
…and his name wasn’t even Anthony Quinn, I’ll bet.
re: #124 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
She would be a fool not to.
re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Hatteras outer banks dialect.
Allegedly the dialect of rural Québec is closest to the French of Molière
re: #149 FemNaziBitch
I’ve been around for a while.
re: #150 whitebeach
Clark Gable wasn’t southern, nor we’re most of the main actors in GWTW. Thank God though that somebody had enough sense not to make Rhett seriously attempt a southern accent.
And Dick van Dyke was not a Cockney!
I truly did grow up thinking his Chimneysweep accent was how Londoners talked…
re: #152 Doofus
She would be a fool not to.
She would be crazy to run. She’s have to get in bed with all kinds of characters she’s been criticizing in order to raise money it would whipe out her credibility.
re: #151 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
…and his name wasn’t even Anthony Quinn, I’ll bet.
Quinn-Oaxaca. Grandfather was Irish, father supposedly rode with Pancho Villa.
Koizumi Yakumo, author of Kwaidan, was Irish-Greek. Cultural appropriation isn’t a problem, it’s part of the solution.
re: #156 Nyet
Christian Bale isn’t Jewish.
But Paul Newman was. You could tell if you looked into his eyes.
re: #131 Nyet
I’m all for black Spiderman. I also don’t see any problem with Cumberbatch’s Khan.
I’d rather see a Spiderwoman movie because I seriously doubt that a woman would do some of the blindingly stupid things that the male protagonist seems to do.
And let’s not start about all the actors playing Jesus.
I recall that there was a big blowup in Egypt when a black actor, Lou Gosset (of The Jeffersons) played Anwar Sadat in a TV miniseries. They were offended that he was portrayed as a negro and not as an Egyptian.
from wiki article
“The film was negatively received in Egypt and was accused there of distorting history and slandering the Egyptian people, and was also criticized for the casting of a black actor, Lou Gossett, Jr., as Sadat. The Egyptian Ministry of Culture announced a ban on all films distributed by Columbia Pictures, and Egypt’s artists’ and film unions sued Columbia Pictures and the film’s director, writer, and producers. The lawsuit was dismissed by an Egyptian court for lack of jurisdiction because the film’s “distortions” and “slanders” occurred outside Egypt.”
re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Thankfully there’s almost no one to complain about this:
;)
re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Yes.
re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I recall that there was a big blowup in Egypt when a black actor, Lou Gosset (of The Jeffersons) played Anwar Sadat in a TV miniseries. They were offended that he was portrayed as a negro and not as an Egyptian.
Saw that. Gossett did a great job and he does resemble Sadat.
Btw, Charlton Heston, who portrayed British General Charles Gordon in Khartoum, bore an astonishing resemblance to the real Gordon:
Heston was nearly a foot taller though.
re: #165 Doofus
She would win.
She would win a couple of primaries but she doesn’t have a braod range of issues to go deep. Bernie Sanders is going to have the same problem. I don’t remember anybody going to either of them for their stance on any issues other than their core issue.
re: #172 Shiplord Kirel
Saw that. Gossett did a great job and he does resemble Sadat.
Btw, Charlton Heston, who portrayed British General Charles Gordon in
, bore an astonishing resemblance to the real Gordon:
Heston was nearly a foot taller though.
Easy. Just wear elevator shoes and press the button for “basement”…
re: #173 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
She would win a couple of primaries but she doesn’t have a braod range of issues to go deep. Bernie Sanders is going to have the same problem. I don’t remember anybody going to either of them for their stance on any issues other than their core issue.
They should both be brought into more prominence and be given major roles in Hillary’s administration. Wonder if that is going to happen, though.
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re: #153 The Vicious Babushka
Allegedly the dialect of rural Québec is closest to the French of Molière
I’ve heard the same claim about isolated pockets of Cajun French. I think most of this kind of stuff is sort of urban legendy. Like the Appalachian/Elizabethan connection. There’s little real evidence for it and most of the people in rural Appalachia aren’t even of English, much less Elizabethan, descent.
re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth
catapult?
He picked the wrong one, and she wasn’t carrying:
Man Slain in West Virginia May Have Been a Serial Killer: Police
According to police, Falls attacked a woman he met on Backpage. com at her house. Police say when Falls showed up, he opened the door, slammed it shut, raised a gun at the woman and said to her that “she was going to die,” according to NBC affiliate WSAZ.The victim grabbed his handgun and shot him once. Falls died of the injury he sustained from the shot, which police say was in self-defense, according to the station. […]
Surprise, asshole!
Creepy guy—wait till you see the stuff he had in his trunk.
re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
They should both be brought into more prominence and given a spot in Hillary’s administration. Wonder if that is going to happen, though.
I believe that the Dems need to work on their farm system, down to the state lege level. Getting a candidate elected at the national level is tough enough. Requiring that candidate to build name recognition from scratch while they’re running makes things much more difficult.
re: #178 whitebeach
I’ve heard the same claim about isolated pockets of Cajun French. I think most of this kind of stuff is sort of urban legendy. Like the Appalachian/Elizabethan connection. There’s little real evidence for it and most of the people in rural Appalachia aren’t even of English, much less Elizabethan, descent.
When I was in Scotland a few years ago, most people in my travel group had difficulty understanding some people in the Highlands. I didn’t because they had speech patterns very similar to the older folks in my Appalachian county, which was settled predominately by Scots and Irish.
re: #182 Higgs Boson’s Mate
I believe that the Dems need to work on their farm system, down to the state lege level. Getting a candidate elected at the national level is tough enough. Requiring that candidate to build name recognition from scratch while they’re running makes things much more difficult.
And they need to start thinking beyond Hillary. She seems to be the only candidate they are seriously fielding, if she is compelled to drop out for any reason (health, accident, attempted assassination, massive scandal, etc…) then they are really up the creek.
re: #180 CuriousLurker
He picked the wrong one, and she wasn’t carrying:
Surprise, asshole!
Creepy guy—wait til you see the stuff he had in his trunk.
Yeah……..sounds like a kill kit. Guy was all ready to go; I’m speculating he’d done it before.
re: #181 Nyet
Fatality!
Unarmed woman takes out a bad guy with a gun!
My guess is the NRA isn’t going to be praising her as a hero. //
re: #178 whitebeach
I’ve heard the same claim about isolated pockets of Cajun French. I think most of this kind of stuff is sort of urban legendy. Like the Appalachian/Elizabethan connection. There’s little real evidence for it and most of the people in rural Appalachia aren’t even of English, much less Elizabethan, descent.
The Appalachian/Elizabethan connection business started back in the, I believe, 1930s. A researcher from one of the Eastern universities went down into Appalachia and sought out the most isolated communities she could find with the idea of finding places where older forms of English were still spoken. If college days memories serve, she did find places where antique words and forms were still commonly used.
re: #186 CuriousLurker
Unarmed woman takes out a bad guy with a gun!
My guess is the NRA isn’t going to be praising her as a hero. //
My mom told me once that she scared off a potential home invader (with a German shepherd dog at his side) by pointing a piece of curved pipe with a handkerchief over it while standing at the end of a dark hallway.
Wonder how the NRA would rate that on the heroine scale…
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
Yeah……..sounds like a kill kit. Guy was all ready to go; I’m speculating he’d done it before.
He had a frightening number of chopping & cutting instruments. I can’t think of any good reason to have all that stuff unless it was to dispose of bodies. *shudder*
re: #180 CuriousLurker
He picked the wrong one, and she wasn’t carrying:
Surprise, asshole!
Creepy guy—wait til you see the stuff he had in his trunk.
Uh Dana, it wasn’t her gun.
Woman with a gun kills her attacker, a suspected serial killer —> http://t.co/AYfc3Pci8O Real #gunsense #2A
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) July 27, 2015
re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate
The Appalachian/Elizabethan connection business started back in the, I believe, 1930s. A researcher from one of the Eastern universities went down into Appalachia and sought out the most isolated communities she could find with the idea of finding places where older forms of English were still spoken. If college days memories serve, she did find places where antique words and forms were still commonly used.
It certainly survived in a lot of the ballads they sang.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
More spin on it than an AR-15 slug leaving the barrel!!!
I know it is sorta early, but I am having trouble wrapping my brain around Obama turning against Hillary Clinton. She was after all his choice as Secretary of State. And then he is going to support Elizabeth Warren who he has had some political trouble with regarding his trade deals.
I need more coffee…’cept I don’t drink coffee.
Monday Monday…ba dah, ba dah dah…
re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
And they need to start thinking beyond Hillary. She seems to be the only candidate they are seriously fielding, if she is compelled to drop out for any reason (health, accident, attempted assassination, massive scandal, etc…) then they are really up the creek.
Biden would be there. Al Franken would be a hoot. Warren could slide into an already-prepared pro-woman field pretty easily. And all of them trigger less of an automatic hate-fest.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Uh Dana, it wasn’t her gun.
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Christ, that woman is so stupid she would have qualified for sterilization 75 years ago.
re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate
The Appalachian/Elizabethan connection business started back in the, I believe, 1930s. A researcher from one of the Eastern universities went down into Appalachia and sought out the most isolated communities she could find with the idea of finding places where older forms of English were still spoken. If college days memories serve, she did find places where antique words and forms were still commonly used.
Some of that derived from musicology, where the folk links are very strong.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Uh Dana, it wasn’t her gun.
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LOL, proof that these asshats don’t read very far past the headline.
re: #193 ObserverArt
I feel that Obama made her SoS for the same reason that he’ll support her run if she’s nominated: the good of the party. I seriously doubt that he’d do that out of affection for her.
re: #197 CuriousLurker
LOL, proof that these asshats don’t read very far past the headline.
That showed obviously on Freep threads, where missing the point was about 50%.
re: #194 Decatur Deb
Biden would be there. Al Franken would be a hoot. Warren could slide into an already-prepared pro-woman field pretty easily. And all of them trigger less of an automatic hate-fest.
That is the problem I have with Hillary. I mean that once she gets the nomination, I am going to have to give up on my favorite pastime, namely, following politics, because it is going to get really, really ugly, even uglier than it did with Obama, and shriller, because the GOP will be even more desperate.
re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate
The Appalachian/Elizabethan connection business started back in the, I believe, 1930s. A researcher from one of the Eastern universities went down into Appalachia and sought out the most isolated communities she could find with the idea of finding places where older forms of English were still spoken. If college days memories serve, she did find places where antique words and forms were still commonly used.
Yiddish contains some words that are archaic in modern German. Yiddish is closer to Plattdeutsch than to modern German.
re: #202 The Vicious Babushka
Yiddish contains some words that are archaic in modern German. Yiddish is closer to Plattdeutsch than to modern German.
I think it stems from Mittelhochdeutsch.
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That is the problem I have with Hillary. I mean that once she gets the nomination, I am going to have to give up on my favorite pastime, namely, following politics, because it is going to get really, really ugly, even uglier than it did with Obama, and shriller, because the GOP will be even more desperate.
Ya’ need yer yellow boots, NBC gloves, and a Scott Air-Pac.
Also there are Russian communities in Alaska that still have that old language.
re: #206 Nyet
Also there are Russian communities in Alaska that still have that old language.
You betcha!!!
re: #187 Higgs Boson’s Mate
The Appalachian/Elizabethan connection business started back in the, I believe, 1930s. A researcher from one of the Eastern universities went down into Appalachia and sought out the most isolated communities she could find with the idea of finding places where older forms of English were still spoken. If college days memories serve, she did find places where antique words and forms were still commonly used.
I will revisit my copy of Folk Songs of North America by Alan Lomax. He also went to Appalachia and the deep South in the 30’s (?) and/or 40’s and recorded and published songs of those regions. The lyrics in one of the ballads (Lady Gay) included words from the 1600’s, I believe.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Uh Dana, it wasn’t her gun.
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Is someone going to tell her? I would, but I really don’t feel like having my mentions blow up with derp on a Monday morning.
re: #207 The Vicious Babushka
*recht (sorry ;)
Also, Yiddish reminds me more of the southern dialects for some reason.
re: #209 urbanmeemaw
I will revisit my copy of Folk Songs of North America by Alan Lomax. He also went to Appalachia and the deep South in the 30’s (?) and/or 40’s and recorded and published songs of those regions. The lyrics in one of the ballads (Lady Gay) included words from the 1600’s, I believe.
Songcatcher is a very good fictionalization of one of thse pioneers—a lady who dragged a wire recorder through the hills.
The Rusyn language is pretty interesting, something between Russian and Ukrainian.
Wait for it. Ben Shapiro is going to say that every Jew, who is a relative of Holocaust victims, who is pissed off at Huck isn’t a “real Jew”
I'm sure they would appreciate you defending the guy who is endangering all their relatives in Israel even more. https://t.co/RqpaVC4kVf
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 27, 2015
re: #198 Higgs Boson’s Mate
I feel that Obama made her SoS for the same reason that he’ll support her run if she’s nominated: the good of the party. I seriously doubt that he’d do that out of affection for her.
I can buy that thought. Add in Obama knows Hillary is also a political machine and damn good at it. Warren is good, but still raw and a tad naive politically.
WHOOP THERE IT IS
@benshapiro @GlennThrush @MikeHuckabeeGOP most American Jews support the Iran deal Ben
— Vegas Allende 81 (@BrooklynJuggler) July 27, 2015
None of them (1) know anything about Judaism; (2) have ever visited Israel; (3) value (1) or (2) over abortion. https://t.co/2V9pTTP9SA
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 27, 2015
I wonder if anyone ever told Ben about Israel’s abortion laws.
Something blew by upstairs—SFZ went for the baby? Knew she was contemplating it.
Somebody should tell Ben Shapiro about Israel's abortion policy http://t.co/ONwxdpTzf7 https://t.co/Dy0BJFc2qN
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 27, 2015
re: #214 The Vicious Babushka
Benny is pretty close to being an antisemite right there.
re: #196 Decatur Deb
Some of that derived from musicology, where the folk links are very strong.
Yes. Thankfully, the artists, musicians, and writers hired under the New Deal were able to document many of those songs and dialects before they were lost. I even stumbled across a cookbook whose recipes were all gathered from farmers’ wives in places so rural that they didn’t yet have electricity.
re: #220 Nyet
Benny is pretty close to being an antisemite right there.
Ben is like Neturei Karta, except that they are anti-Zionist
re: #211 Nyet
*recht (sorry ;)
Also, Yiddish reminds me more of the southern dialects for some reason.
Thought it was more West Central in origin, but I may be wrong.
re: #178 whitebeach
I’ve heard the same claim about isolated pockets of Cajun French. I think most of this kind of stuff is sort of urban legendy. Like the Appalachian/Elizabethan connection. There’s little real evidence for it and most of the people in rural Appalachia aren’t even of English, much less Elizabethan, descent.
It is more likely that the Scots-Irish themselves, being isolated from the centers of English development, tended to preserve older forms before substantial migration to America started in the 18th century. Once here, many of these forms were, again, preserved in isolation. There is no doubt at all that many archaic forms still exist in the various Appalachian dialects, though these dialects are obviously more recent developments than any form of 16th or 17th century English.
re: #220 Nyet
Benny is pretty close to being an antisemite right there.
If someone is a TOTAL asshole, can you really sort out the anti-semitism/misogyny/racism/libertarianism?
re: #213 Nyet
The Rusyn language is pretty interesting, something between Russian and Ukrainian.
You betchyn!
re: #211 Nyet
*recht (sorry ;)
Also, Yiddish reminds me more of the southern dialects for some reason.
“rechts” is Yiddish :)
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That is the problem I have with Hillary. I mean that once she gets the nomination, I am going to have to give up on my favorite pastime, namely, following politics, because it is going to get really, really ugly, even uglier than it did with Obama, and shriller, because the GOP will be even more desperate.
One of the reason there is going to be some hate for Hillary (again) is the GOP knows they are not going to defeat her straight up so they will have to get dirty.
But, they’ve gotten rough with her and Bill over the last 25 years and I think they are approaching the ‘had enough bashing’ line. If they jump it people will start to see it as only attack Hillary politics and begin asking when they are going to talk about what the GOP candidate is actually running on that is positive.
And like Decatur Deb has said…they may think this email thing will be her undoing but if it is not, she’ll end up even stronger as she keeps shutting all the attacks down. That for a politician can end up being seen as a great trait.
re: #211 Nyet
*recht (sorry ;)
Also, Yiddish reminds me more of the southern dialects for some reason.
Hungarian and Polish Yiddish actually do sound like a southern drawl
re: #224 Pip’s Squeak
Thought it was more West Central in origin, but I may be wrong.
That could be. I just said what it reminds me of ;)
We have visited Amsterdam, Prague and Frankfurt and Zedushka spoke Yiddish everywhere we went.
Amazingly people understood him and replied in German :)
re: #230 ObserverArt
One of the reason there is going to be some hate for Hillary (again) is the GOP knows they are not going to defeat her straight up so they will have to get dirty.
and misogynist
re: #228 The Vicious Babushka
Shouldn’t it be something like “hobn” instead of “haben” then? ;)
re: #233 The Vicious Babushka
We have visited Amsterdam, Prague and Frankfurt and Zedushka spoke Yiddish everywhere we went.
Amazingly people understood him and replied in German :)
That’s like German speakers understanding Dutch. They do, and say they do more or less. But Dutch speakers pretend to be aghast.
re: #217 The Vicious Babushka
I wonder if anyone ever told Ben about Israel’s abortion laws.
Shoot. I thought you would have by now.
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel
And then there’s Boontling, a form of jargon spoken only in Booneville, California. It’s based on English and it incorporates words from several languages including a few that were spoken by Pomoan Indians. Boontling is dying out. There are currently fewer than 100 speakers left.
re: #221 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Yes. Thankfully, the artists, musicians, and writers hired under the New Deal were able to document many of those songs and dialects before they were lost. I even stumbled across a cookbook whose recipes were all gathered from farmers’ wives in places so rural that they didn’t yet have electricity.
Yong Nicky Gogol’ insisted at one point that he could reconstruct the history of the Ukraine based on its folklore better than anyone could using historical documents
re: #235 Nyet
Shouldn’t it be something like “hobn” instead of “haben” then? ;)
It would be “du host rechts” “Sie” form doesn’t exist in Yiddish, it’s “du” or “ihr”
Somebody tell Ben about Masada.
Sure. Judaism opposes suicide. https://t.co/sZWbDoaIQp
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 27, 2015
re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Yong Nicky Gogl’ insisted that he could reconstruct the history of the Ukraine based on its folklore better than anyone could using historical documents
I dunno about that, but he was a great writer.
re: #241 The Vicious Babushka
It would be “du host rechts” “Sie” form doesn’t exist in Yiddish, it’s “du” or “ihr”
With “du” as the familiar or imperative form, yes?
re: #237 Nyet
Bookmarked. Might want to delete in a bit.
Various posters here have expressed concern over the latest anti-PP backlash becoming violent, and it looks like that just became much more likely.
re: #243 Nyet
I dunno about that, but he was a great writer.
He was young and romantically passionate and trying to get someone to bankroll him.
re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
He was young and romantically passionate and trying to get someone to bankroll him.
CCJ.
re: #249 Decatur Deb
CCJ.
He had talent and did not invent malicious lies about people to gain attention.
re: #79 Doofus
NY Post article on Hillary:
It is of my opinion that President Obama will throw his support behind Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
hahahaha. That is rich. You guys are really showing the desperation, and I guess I cant blame you with Trump as your leader.
That article is so full of holes and speculation.
First of all the NYT story has been walked back several times. But this part is pure gold Jerry!
Somebody very high in the food chain leaked the memos requesting the probe. The New York Times, which broke the story, identified its source only as “a senior government official.”
My money is on Valerie Jarrett, the Obamas’ Rasputin, who is known to despise Clinton. If it was Jarrett, she would not do this against the president’s wishes.
So how does government official translate to someone from the Obama admin? Most people would think this came from Trey Gowdy. See, this is the trouble with unsupported, anonymous sources. It is too easy to speculate and is very often wrong.
Plus, the NY post is a rag.
re: #251 blueraven
hahahaha. That is rich. You guys are really showing the desperation, and I guess I cant blame you with Trump as your leader.
That article is so full of holes and speculation.
First of all the NYT story has been walked back several times. But this is part is pure gold Jerry!
So how does government official translate to someone from the Obama admin? Most people would think this came from Trey Gowdy. See, this is the trouble with unsupported, anonymous sources. It is too easy to speculate and is very often wrong.
Plus, the NY post is a rag.
Rags are usable when you need them for clean up.
And is not Doofus a long-time member??? It seems everyone is acting like Doofus is a new troll toy.
re: #252 ObserverArt
Rags are usable when you need them for clean up.
And is not Doofus a long-time member??? It seems everyone is acting like Doofus is a new troll toy.
Yes, he is a long time member and I recognize him as Shropshire_Slasher:
evil conservative
/
Nice landing.
Terrifying video shows strong winds tossing a plane from side to side: http://t.co/E0zXQy2ERT pic.twitter.com/TS0DgklA72
— Mashable Travel (@MashableTravel) July 27, 2015
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That is the problem I have with Hillary. I mean that once she gets the nomination, I am going to have to give up on my favorite pastime, namely, following politics, because it is going to get really, really ugly, even uglier than it did with Obama, and shriller, because the GOP will be even more desperate.
… and Hilary Clinton is no Barack Obama.
re: #255 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
… and Hilary Clinton is no Barack Obama.
If she does get the nomination and wins the general, I hope she enters the White House with the same number of fucks to give that Obama currently has in his bag - which is zero.
The only thing that will move an intransigent congress is brute force. If she starts squeezing McConnell’s and Boehner’s balls in a vice from day one, they might - might - actually work with her.
re: #193 ObserverArt
I know it is sorta early, but I am having trouble wrapping my brain around Obama turning against Hillary Clinton. She was after all his choice as Secretary of State. And then he is going to support Elizabeth Warren who he has had some political trouble with regarding his trade deals.
I need more coffee…’cept I don’t drink coffee.
Monday Monday…ba dah, ba dah dah…
Yeah, Monday!
re: #256 Eric The Fruit Bat
Not sure about this. I can’t really take the word of hackers who claim they got info the servers, but as of yet have not released any info. Could they just be playing mind games with PP?
I’ve already had a bag of chips and cookies today. Not a good day for my diet. Monday.
re: #260 Iwouldprefernotto
Not sure about this. I can’t really take the word of hackers who claim they got info the servers, but as of yet have not released any info. Could they just be playing mind games with PP?
Yeah, they were going to hack PP web site also but couldn’t it seems.
re: #257 darthstar
I don’t think it’s fucks to give, Barack Obama has more guts than Hilary Clinton ever will.
re: #247 withak
Various posters here have expressed concern over the latest anti-PP backlash becoming violent, and it looks like that just became much more likely.
terrorism
re: #257 darthstar
If she does get the nomination and wins the general, I hope she enters the White House with the same number of fucks to give that Obama currently has in his bag - which is zero.
The only thing that will move an intransigent congress is brute force. If she starts squeezing McConnell’s and Boehner’s balls in a vice from day one, they might - might - actually work with her.
It will be a different set of rules of engagement entirely. Obama waited a bit before he came out swinging, Hillary will need to come out kicking butt and taking names from day one.
re: #242 The Vicious Babushka
Somebody tell Ben about Masada.
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Yes, but.
Only one person at Masada committed suicide. The rest were murdered, buy their fathers/neighbors, etc.
My ancient Mac Mini has to decided it no longer wants to boot up, not even in Safe mode.
I haz a sad.
re: #263 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I don’t think it’s fucks to give, Barack Obama has more guts than Hilary Clinton ever will.
I think Hillary is pretty gutsy. Don’t know how you can say she is not after all the shit she has had to put up with over all the years. Aaaand, she is still standing and polls better than anyone else.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Uh Dana, it wasn’t her gun.
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@DLoesch Uhm… It wasn't her gun. She grabbed the attackers gun.
— Teo (@Teukka72) July 27, 2015
re: #142 FemNaziBitch
No, yet he was dark-skinned and could reasonably be cast as Khan. Cumberbatch was a joke.
You realize that Khan was supposed to be a product of genetic engineering, so what race is that?
re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White
You realize that Khan was supposed to be a product of genetic engineering, so what race is that?
You realize this is a science-fiction fantasy story about the future of the human race?
re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White
You realize that Khan was supposed to be a product of genetic engineering, so what race is that?
The proud race of Beakers.
re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You realize this is a science-fiction fantasy story about the future of the human race?
No it really happened, a long. long time ago…..
re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White
You realize that Khan was supposed to be a product of genetic engineering, so what race is that?
I am pretty sure that Khan is referred to as a “Sikh” in “Space Seed”.
So…you know Hulk Hogan said some stupid stuff (a batshit crazy racist rant)…on camera and did some stupid stuff (with another dude’s wife)…on camera.
blahblah it was years ago, and he’s sorry and he’s a better guy now blahblahblah.
I was not inclined to believe he had reformed then. I was right.
re: #276 Iwouldprefernotto
No it really happened, a long. long time ago…..
According to the original show, it happened already. Khan was the product of, as Chekhov sneeringly said, ‘Late 20th Century Genetic Engineering”
re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White
According to the original show, it happened already. Khan was the product of, as Chekhov sneeringly said, ‘Late 20th Century Genetic Engineering”
IIRC the Eugenics Wars started in 1996.
re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White
You realize that Khan was supposed to be a product of genetic engineering, so what race is that?
Perhaps you are unaware of my List of Things I Never Thought I’d See In my Lifetime (Paradigm Shifts I have more and more difficulty absorbing as I age)
One of them is that Spock is in touch with his feelings in the new ST. Khan being Cumberbatch is just another sign that I am getting old.
And, I have a special place in my heart for TOS —relating to watching it in B&W on the couch with my Dear Ole’ Dad when I was about 4 years old.
So, I really don’t like the new Version of ST. I know about it being an alternate reality and such …
re: #278 Jayleia
So…you know Hulk Hogan said some stupid stuff (a batshit crazy racist rant)…on camera and did some stupid stuff (with another dude’s wife)…on camera.
blahblah it was years ago, and he’s sorry and he’s a better guy now blahblahblah.
I was not inclined to believe he had reformed then. I was right.
Oh, lord. The “Why can’t I say it? They do!” defense. Buh-bye, Hulk.
re: #276 Iwouldprefernotto
No it really happened, a long. long time ago…..
…in a galaxy far, far away?
I know that Trump is exposing his ass rather blatantly at this point, and I have no illusions about him actually making through the primaries, forget getting the nomination. But am I the only one worried sick about his candidacy, if only for the ill shit that it’s helping to somehow relegitimize in the public sphere and conventional “wisdom”?
The rather depressing spike of nativism and racist freak flag flying is starting to get to me, as a non-Hispanic that nevertheless has a Hispanic last name and darker skin. I know all too damn well how much bleedover this kind of shit will have, and yet the “SUPER MOTHERFUCKIN’ DEPORT THEM ALL!” train seems to be running unabated, and the demographic changes just aren’t all there to overcome this shit if it gets too out of hand. Not to mention the worry of Trump’s outlandishness helping other abhorrent GOP nonsense from being tagged as ‘moderate’ because it’s not AS abhorrent as the Donald Dick’s nonsense.
This might just be my pessimism talking, but between mass killings, lawless cops, and the increasingly successful hatchet jobs on Planned Parenthood on top of all this, it still feels like we as a country are still dancing to the GOP whim with only Obama’s tireless work and the thankful turn the country’s taken on gay rights as the rare bright points.
re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White
According to the original show, it happened already. Khan was the product of, as Chekhov sneeringly said, ‘Late 20th Century Genetic Engineering”
So, if I am allowed to peruse the Lizard central roll of tinfoil:
Some stay-behind unit for Nazi’s Lebensborn program?
re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White
Oh, lord. The “Why can’t I say it? They do!” defense. Buh-bye, Hulk.
Context. How does it work?
re: #269 blueraven
I think Hillary is pretty gutsy. Don’t know how you can say she is not after all the shit she has had to put up with over all the years. Aaaand, she is still standing and polls better than anyone else.
She’s still standing because there isn’t anybody running. Why else would anybody support Bernie Sanders? Because he isn’t Hilary Clinton. Did she show any guts in 2008 when she complained that the media was unfair to her because she is a woman? I don’t remember Obama whining about any of that shit. Remember how guts she was when she had to trot out her courage on her foreign policy and got humiliated by a photo pf herself with a little girl who stood around and waited to meet her in a place that Clinton said was so dangerous? She is not a leader. But if I have to , I’ll hold my nose and vote for her and hope for the best.
re: #282 FemNaziBitch
I get where you’re coming from. I watched the very first episode, when it was aired in 1966. It blew my 8 year old mind. I have been a fan since then.
re: #282 FemNaziBitch
Perhaps you are unaware of my List of Things I Never Thought I’d See In my Lifetime (Paradigm Shifts I have more and more difficulty absorbing as I age)
One of them is that Spock is in touch with his feelings in the new ST. Khan being Cumberbatch is just another sign that I am getting old.
And, I have a special place in my heart for TOS —relating to watching it in B&W on the couch with my Dear Ole’ Dad when I was about 4 years old.
So, I really don’t like the new Version of ST. I know about it being an alternate reality and such …
You’ll probably like this when it finishes: Axanar.
re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White
I constantly have to point out the concept of “reappropriation” when people try and pull this shit. It rarely sinks in, to my depression.
re: #288 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
But if I have to , I’ll hold my nose and vote for her and hope for the best.
I cannot imagine the GOP nominating anyone I could even consider for a moment.
re: #142 FemNaziBitch
I was pissed at the choice in casting YET ANOTHER DAMN WHITE DUDE. But Cumberbatch nailed the character, and, given that he is a genetically-engineered superman, he could have looked like anything.
I would have preferred him to be physically altered to look like a LIVING FREAKING WEAPON. But, I’ll take Cumberbatch.
re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Context. How does it work?
Ask Michael Richards.
re: #289 Blind Frog Belly White
I get where you’re coming from. I watched the very first episode, when it was aired in 1966. It blew my 8 year old mind. I have been a fan since then.
I remember watching it as a kid on our b/w TV in the basement (my folks had the color set upstairs but did not like the show, so I was banished to the cellar).
I have seen all the movies, but must admit I have not watched a single entire episode of New Generation or any of the other spin-offs.
This is an ad currently running on the site.
ClintI have questions.
If I say yes, is Clint going to come to my house and protect me?
If I say no, are they just going to send Clint’s chair and I’m on my own?
I am aware that “for a fistfull of dollars” I can get LGF without ads, but financially I’m on a “Tightrope.”
I’d rather have the replicants from Blade Runner.
re: #209 urbanmeemaw
I will revisit my copy of Folk Songs of North America by Alan Lomax. He also went to Appalachia and the deep South in the 30’s (?) and/or 40’s and recorded and published songs of those regions. The lyrics in one of the ballads (Lady Gay) included words from the 1600’s, I believe.
Also interesting:
The Child Ballads are 305 traditional ballads from England and Scotland and their American variants, collected by Francis James Child during the second half of the 19th century…
In 1960 John Jacob Niles published The Ballad Book of John Jacob Niles, in which he connects folk songs which he collected throughout the southern United States and Appalachia in the early 20th century to the Child Ballads.
I must admit, the first time I ever heard of the Child Ballads was while reading Michener’s “The Drifters.” One of the characters was a folk singer who sang them.
re: #291 Kryptik
I constantly have to point out the concept of “reappropriation” when people try and pull this shit. It rarely sinks in, to my depression.
Yeah, I’ve tried the same thing. Like water off a duck’s back.
I always wonder why it’s so important to them to be able to use that word.
re: #296 Iwouldprefernotto
The idea that “guns are the only real security, ever” is something I will never understand, nor will I understand how the fear of constant assault from all sides by indiscriminate evils that only a gun or three can stop became the height of courage and resolve, rather than paranoid, pants-wetting fantasy like it really is.
re: #282 FemNaziBitch
“One of them is that Spock is in touch with his feelings in the new ST. “
Wasn’t there an original Star Trek episode where it was revealed that Spock was actually raw emotion rather than pure logic?
re: #293 Jayleia
I was pissed at the choice in casting YET ANOTHER DAMN WHITE DUDE. But Cumberbatch nailed the character, and, given that he is a genetically-engineered superman, he could have looked like anything.
I would have preferred him to be physically altered to look like a LIVING FREAKING WEAPON. But, I’ll take Cumberbatch.
It being an alternate timeline and all, I would have preferred that they invoke Khan’s character without having him being the one that was woken up. Khan’s alias was “John Harrison” and I think it would’ve been a lot better if Harrison had simply been Khan’s badass lieutenant or something.
But then Spock doesn’t get to yell “KHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!” “HARRISONNNNNNNNNNNN” doesn’t have the same impact.
We’d call it murder if a kidnapping victim died of fright during the job. Of course it’s not legally the same thing, but a woman dying of depression during an illegal detention should be the same kind of crime. It’s especially true given our long and sordid history of overpolicing misdemeanors.
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re: #242 The Vicious Babushka
Somebody tell Ben about Masada.
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Speaking of suicide, I was reading about that young woman who jumped off the building in Manhattan and came across a poem written by an 11th grade Hasidic girl from Brooklyn-. It’s very clever—brilliant even—it must’ve taker her ages to work it out just right. You may have seen it already, but I hope those who haven’t will enjoy it as much as I did.:
“Worst Day Ever?”
by Chanie GorkinToday was the absolute worst day ever
And don’t try to convince me that
There’s something good in every day
Because, when you take a closer look,
This world is a pretty evil place.
Even if
Some goodness does shine through once in a while
Satisfaction and happiness don’t last.
And it’s not true that
It’s all in the mind and heart
Because
True happiness can be attained
Only if one’s surroundings are good
It’s not true that good exists
I’m sure you can agree that
The reality
Creates
My attitude
It’s all beyond my control
And you’ll never in a million years hear me say
Today was a very good dayNow read it from bottom to top, the other way,
And see what I really feel about my day.
re: #290 Romantic Heretic
Also you might like this Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, and this Star Trek: Horizon
re: #300 Kryptik
The idea that “guns are the only real security, ever” is something I will never understand, nor will I understand how the fear of constant assault from all sides by indiscriminate evils that only a gun or three can stop became the height of courage and resolve, rather than paranoid, pants-wetting fantasy like it really is.
And it is an article of RWNJ doctrine that Obama is coming for your guns and we must stand firm or soon they will be rounding up all your iron and leaving you at the mercy of home invaders.
re: #293 Jayleia
I was pissed at the choice in casting YET ANOTHER DAMN WHITE DUDE. But Cumberbatch nailed the character, and, given that he is a genetically-engineered superman, he could have looked like anything.
I would have preferred him to be physically altered to look like a LIVING FREAKING WEAPON. But, I’ll take Cumberbatch.
Actually, I”m not a fan of Cumberbatch in any role. I just don’t really like him. Or I haven’t seen him in anything in which I’ve liked him Even the new Sherlock.
Too skinny to seem powerful too me.
re: #304 CuriousLurker
Speaking of suicide, I was reading about that young woman who jumped off the building in Manhattan and came across a poem written by an 11th grade Hasidic girl from Brooklyn-. It’s very clever—brilliant even—it must’ve taker her ages to work it out just right. You may have seen it already, but I hope those who haven’t will enjoy it as much as I did.:
I read that years ago, it was going around when my kids were in school.
For me the “hey, Mexicans and Indians aren’t white so it’s OK to cast a Mexican as an Indian, they all look the same*” approach is more problematic than retroactively fudging the origins story in order to accommodate a star actor’s race.
* They don’t.
re: #288 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
She’s still standing because there isn’t anybody running. Why else would anybody support Bernie Sanders? Because he isn’t Hilary Clinton. Did she show any guts in 2008 when she complained that the media was unfair to her because she is a woman? I don’t remember Obama whining about any of that shit. Remember how guts she was when she had to trot out her courage on her foreign policy and got humiliated by a photo pf herself with a little girl who stood around and waited to meet her in a place that Clinton said was so dangerous? She is not a leader. But if I have to , I’ll hold my nose and vote for her and hope for the best.
Sure, you can point to a few things over the years, and Obama has had his bad moments as well.
She has been a fierce advocate for women, children and families for her entire career. She has been attacked more than most by the media.
As to why anyone would support Bernie, it is ridiculous to say it is only because they reject Hillary. In fact that is very insulting.
re: #308 The Vicious Babushka
Ah, so it’s not new. Good to know, great stuff though.
re: #306 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Gay black socialist muslim transgender atheist home invaders sent by the NWO controlled by the Beast himself to rape the white wife and cuck the white guy…did I get a bingo on the Wingnut Fear card?
re: #307 FemNaziBitch
Actually, I”m not a fan of Cumberbatch in any role. I just don’t really like him. Or I haven’t seen him in anything in which I’ve liked him Even the new Sherlock.
Too skinny to seem powerful too me.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Cumberbatch is indeed very polarizing. I love him in everything he’s been in. As flawed as Into Darkness was, I thought he was brilliant.
re: #298 BeachDem
Yes! I had forgotten about the Child ballads.
I loved folk music when I was growing up. I was (and still am) a huge Kingston Trio fan, and that spurred me to learn guitar. My interest in them spurred me on to discover other folk artists and research folk music on my own. My mom gave me the Lomax book when I was 12, and I learned a lot of songs and history from that treasure trove.
I saw a movie on HBO called The Song Catcher, about a woman who went into the mountains with her recorder.
re: #301 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
“One of them is that Spock is in touch with his feelings in the new ST. “
Wasn’t there an original Star Trek episode where it was revealed that Spock was actually raw emotion rather than pure logic?
It showed him without his learned behaviors combined with his father’s genetic ability to use them to the extreme, IIRC.
His mother was human, yet always portrayed as the calm, insightful type.
Spock is a conundrum in many ways. Which is why the character worked so well.
Getting caught up on Rachel Maddow’s interview with Rick Santorum. She’s kicking his ass all over the place by just simply asking him to explain his position. No insults, no nastiness. Just a simple “Please explain to me your positions.”
What was really frightening was listening to Santorum’s utter and total butchering of check-and-balances and the Supreme Court. This is who Republicans want in the White House.
“Well, shucks, if those darn old know-it-all judges don’t give us what we want, we’ll just keep makin’ laws ‘till we get it right!”
Absolutely scary that I share this country with people who think someone like that should be leader of the free world.
re: #310 blueraven
Sure, you can point to a few things over the years, and Obama has had his bad moments as well.
She has been a fierce advocate for women, children and families for her entire career. She has been attacked more than most by the media.
As to why anyone would support Bernie, it is ridiculous to say it is only because they reject Hillary. In fact that is very insulting.
There is a lot more to Hillary that the media portrays.
re: #312 Jayleia
Gay black socialist muslim transgender atheist home invaders sent by the NWO controlled by the Beast himself to rape the white wife and cuck the white guy…did I get a bingo on the Wingnut Fear card?
You forgot “Commie”.
re: #251 blueraven
Most people would think this came from Trey Gowdy. See, this is the trouble with unsupported, anonymous sources. It is too easy to speculate and is very often wrong.
Plus, the NY post is a rag.
I believe Elijah Cummings, who is in a position to know, has all but said that it was Gowdy, or someone close to him. Thank Dog Cummings is on that committee—he has outed the shenanigans of both Issa and Gowdy. (Cummings must be REALLY tired of all the bullshit by now.)
re: #313 withak
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Cumberbatch is indeed very polarizing. I love him in everything he’s been in. As flawed as Into Darkness was, I thought he was brilliant.
I agree he is a most talented artist. Just not my cup o’ coffee.
re: #307 FemNaziBitch
Actually, I”m not a fan of Cumberbatch in any role. I just don’t really like him. Or I haven’t seen him in anything in which I’ve liked him Even the new Sherlock.
Too skinny to seem powerful too me.
Cumberbatch is going to be in Black Mass, due out later this year, where he’ll play “Whitey” Bulger’s brother, William Bulger, former President of the MA Senate. He might be good in that. Johnny Depp is playing Whitey.
Looks promising.
re: #309 Nyet
For me the “hey, Mexicans and Indians aren’t white so it’s OK to cast a Mexican as an Indian, they all look the same*” approach is more problematic than retroactively fudging the origins story in order to accommodate a star actor’s race.
* They don’t.
It isn’t easy as many share the same genetics. Even if you mean Indians from India. There was so much migration from India - Africa and then to South America. Carlos Fuentes wrote a wonderful book that explained a lot to me.
re: #323 FemNaziBitch
We are obviously discussing Indians from India.
re: #300 Kryptik
The idea that “guns are the only real security, ever” is something I will never understand, nor will I understand how the fear of constant assault from all sides by indiscriminate evils that only a gun or three can stop became the height of courage and resolve, rather than paranoid, pants-wetting fantasy like it really is.
I was in a place where we used weapons that the gun huggers can only masturbate about. We used them more than 240 days out of the 365 I was stationed there. Guys were still killed or wounded.
SSDDAnd I leave you for now …
re: #316 Mattand
Getting caught up on Rachel Maddow’s interview with Rick Santorum. She’s kicking his ass all over the place by just simply asking him to explain his position. No insults, no nastiness. Just a simple “Please explain to me your positions.”
What was really frightening was listening to Santorum’s utter and total butchering of check-and-balances and the Supreme Court. This is who Republicans want in the White House.
“Well, shucks, if those darn old know-it-all judges don’t give us what we want, we’ll just keep makin’ laws ‘till we get it right!”
Absolutely scary that I share this country with people who think someone like that should be leader of the free world.
Santorum’s understanding of government mirrors that of the rest of the GOP field. They seem to ignore the role of the Supreme Court in all cases where the Court doesn’t agree with them specifically, and shout “states’ rights” when it suits them or that decisions should reside with the people or vote or referendum on various rights.
Never mind that the people did vote - the voted for President and Congress (including the Senate) and they in turn nominated and confirmed Supreme Court justices who then rule on the constitutionality of the laws and issues confronting them.
It further shows a lack of historical knowledge about institutionalized and state sanctioned racism and bigotry where Courts didn’t act, or where they sanctioned racism via Jim Crow and segregation laws. It took (and still takes) court actions to undo the longstanding racism and other biases confronting the nation. Gay marriage doesn’t undermine anyone’s rights - except to be a bigot (and it reveals just who the bigots are when they want to impose their religious views on everyone else).
Santorum and the GOP would love to get rid of Court’s judicial review when it suits their needs just as surely as the GOP would love to eliminate entitlements (which isn’t so much an entitlement as an obligation for services rendered after paying contributions going forward - as SS, Medicare and Medicaid are withheld from paychecks for instance).
re: #300 Kryptik
The idea that “guns are the only real security, ever” is something I will never understand, nor will I understand how the fear of constant assault from all sides by indiscriminate evils that only a gun or three can stop became the height of courage and resolve, rather than paranoid, pants-wetting fantasy like it really is.
When you spend your days listening/watching stuff that’s calculated to make you angry and afraid of imminent danger from the Swarthy Hordes, you need a talisman. Think of it as a steel security blanket that can kill you if you aren’t careful.
re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White
When you spend your days listening/watching stuff that’s calculated to make you angry and afraid of imminent danger from the Swarthy Hordes who are coming to fetch you in the name of the EEBIL FEDERAL GUBMINT, you need a talisman. Think of it as a steel security blanket that can kill you if you aren’t careful.
What a fucking idiot. No wonder wingnuts love him.
What Would Trump Do If Elected POTUS?? #tcot #ccot #pjnet pic.twitter.com/rEKajCKx6f
— DR. TWEET, Ph.D. (@Callisto1947) July 25, 2015
re: #293 Jayleia
I was pissed at the choice in casting YET ANOTHER DAMN WHITE DUDE. But Cumberbatch nailed the character, and, given that he is a genetically-engineered superman, he could have looked like anything.
I would have preferred him to be physically altered to look like a LIVING FREAKING WEAPON. But, I’ll take Cumberbatch.
I think that a lot of what went into casting Cumberbatch is that the production team was looking to replicate Ricardo Montalban’s over-the-top scenery-chewing performance - without having to sign an top A-lister who would command a huge paycheck.
re: #330 The Vicious Babushka
As the saying goes, “To every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, straightforward and wrong.”
re: #310 blueraven
I think people are supporting Bernie because they don’t think Clinton will fight for their interests. That’s why I say that they are supporting him because he isn’t Hilary Clinton. Should have said it better but I was rushing.
re: #263 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I don’t think it’s fucks to give, Barack Obama has more guts than Hilary Clinton ever will.
What is that judgement based on?
Think back of her entire career and all that comes with it, and here she is still wanting to run for president.
That takes guts. And I think she has more to give.
Rick Perry: Allowing Guns In Movie Theaters Would Prevent Shootings
Sure it would. It’s just so logical.
re: #333 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I think people are supporting Bernie because they don’t think Clinton will fight for their interests. That’s why I say that they are supporting him because he isn’t Hilary Clinton. Should have said it better but I was rushing.
Sure, and that is fine. That is what primaries and elections are all about. But it also goes the other way. Many people don’t think Bernie will fight for their rights either. Or, maybe they don’t believe in the candidate’s solutions.
re: #330 The Vicious Babushka
What a fucking idiot. No wonder wingnuts love him.
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1) Cost? How paid for? *crickets*
2) General for fighting ISIL? We already have Centcom and JCS.
3) Rich talking about bring jobs back from China when Trump’s own business decisions led him to have his clothes made overseas - in Mexico and China rather than here in the US (which he could have done, but chose not to in order to maximize his profits).
4) Common Core remains optional for states - as it has always been, and has nothing to do with the federal government (this is a states’ right thing, except where the GOP doesn’t want it).
A quick story:
After the Philadelphia Eagles fired their head coach Ray Rhodes, team owner Jeffrie Lurie had to find a new coach. There were a lot of obvious candidates around, including many who had already coached successfully somewhere else. When he interviewed Andy Reid, he was immediately impressed by the fact that Reid had a clear vision for his team. He was hired almost immediately.
I tell that story because Barack Obama also had a vision for this country, and he has largely made that vision a reality. I swear to God I don’t know what anybody else on the Democratic side can say is their vision, beyond taking a stands on a few hot button issues. The Republicans, for bad or worse, have a vision that is awful, but the fact that they have a vision seems to be some kind of force multiplier, even though it is an awful one. They really should have been trounced in the last ten years’ worth of elections, but really the only surprises are a couple of Democratic Senate seats from 2006 and 2008, and President Obama twice. The Democrats keep coming up small because their voters don’t turn out, and the politicians’ only vision seems to be “The GOP is so bad” Granted, the GOP is horrible, but where is the leadership?
re: #318 CuriousLurker
Ugh, Monday. BBL
I either forgot it was Monday, or forgot that I’m not open Monday. I planned to be here not open, so when I realized the situation, I turned doff the open sign.
re: #334 ObserverArt
What is that judgement based on?
Think back of her entire career and all that comes with it, and here she is still wanting to run for president.
That takes guts. And I think she has more to give.
Her career started in 2000. She ran for Senate in a deep blue state. The seat was virtually handed to her. Other than enduring the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, where has she put anything on the line over a cause? Most of her righteous indignation over income inequality is the result of Warren and Sanders bringing it up first.
re: #324 Nyet
We are obviously discussing Indians from India.
Yes, but you are discussing it on a board where many have grown up with the very cumbersome term Indian meaning native Americans.
Sometimes it is damn tough to get past those first impressions that hit your mind when you hear a word.
And I now that doesn’t make it right. Just work with it! : )
On the NYT Hillary hatchet job:
The reporters had what Mr. Purdy described as “multiple, reliable, highly placed sources,”
Uh, apparently they were NOT reliable, you idiot.
“We got it wrong because our very good sources had it wrong,” Mr. Purdy told me.
Ah, those very good, reliable sources who weren’t.
Mr. Purdy says he remains puzzled about why the initial inaccurate information was confirmed so clearly.
Oh yes, it’s a puzzlement, isn’t it?
while no one would discuss the specifics of who the sources were, my sense is that final confirmation came from the same person more than once.
Of course they won’t discuss the specifics of who the sources were (cough Trey Gowdy cough) because they’ll want to go back to that poisoned well again the next time they decide to do a hit piece on Hillary.
Reporting a less sensational version of the story, with a headline that did not include the word “criminal,” and continuing to develop it the next day would have been a wise play. Better yet: Waiting until the next day to publish anything at all.
Gee, ya think?
“You had the government confirming that it was a criminal referral,” Mr. Baquet said.
No, you had some unnamed government source (cough Trey Gowdy cough.)
publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com
Journalism is dead.
re: #338 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I swear to God I don’t know what anybody else on the Democratic side can say is their vision, beyond taking a stands on a few hot button issues.
Hillary's fought for women and families her whole life—and she's not stopping any time soon. pic.twitter.com/sBQr01Y3SG
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 25, 2015
That might be enough.
I was just thinking, where the hell are the Democratic Governors? Not literally (even though most states have Republican govs), but seriously, Republicans have a bunch of governors raising hell and carrying news cycles. Governors are usually in a perfect position to raise hell for their causes because they don’t have to be wonky like reps and senators. I guess you may have noticed that firebrand legislators never seem to get anything done, but the quiet ones do.
re: #344 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I was just thinking, where the hell are the Democratic Governors? Not literally (even though most states have Republican govs), but seriously, Republicans have a bunch of governors raising hell and carrying news cycles. Governors are usually in a perfect position to raise hell for their causes because they don’t have to be wonky like reps and senators. I guess you may have noticed that firebrand legislators never seem to get anything done, but the quiet ones do.
Like Jerry Brown getting water restrictions passed?
re: #343 wrenchwench
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That might be enough.
Both the RWNM and the Republican Congress will do their level best to create distractions for the Clinton campaign. Most of the things they bring up will be created from whole cloth, but some of them won’t. Hopefully, Clinton won’t find herself like John Kerry: so busy fending off attacks that she gets through the campaign without anyone knowing what the hell she actually intended to accomplish as President.
re: #340 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Her career started in 2000. She ran for Senate in a deep blue state. The seat was virtually handed to her. Other than enduring the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, where has she put anything on the line over a cause? Most of her righteous indignation over income inequality is the result of Warren and Sanders bringing it up first.
Seriously?
In Clinton’s 1995 speech, she argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People’s Republic of China itself.[2] She targeted governments and organizations as well as individual females, as she opined that the issues facing women and girls are often either ignored or “silenced” and thus go unresolved.[3] Elements brought up in the speech include dowry deaths and China’s one-child policy.[2]
Clinton declared that “that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women’s rights as separate from human rights”.[2] Delegates from over 180 countries heard her say: “If there is one message that echoes forth from this conference, let it be that human rights are women’s rights and women’s rights are human rights, once and for all.”[4]
In making the speech, Clinton defied both internal administration pressure and external Chinese pressure to soften her remarks.[5][4] The speech is considered to be influential in the women’s rights movement and in 2013 Clinton led a review of how women’s rights have changed since her 1995 speech.[6]
Totally off every topic here, but since we’re all scattered to the 4 winds I thought I’d ask:
The Husband is looking at a job offer in either Indianapolis or Chicago. We currently live in metro Atlanta. I have wanted the hell out of here for years, and FINALLY The Husband gets it. It’s a metro area of 7-8 million people, it’s congested and well, its the freaking South. There’s a host of other reasons to go, but it’s just time, I’ve had it here, been here for half my life and I just want out. I simply don’t like it, the place especially, it’s too much house for us, and the place needs more work than we want to keep investing.
I’m from Ohio, he’s from Maryland, so we’re transplants, both moved here in the 80s when our auto jobs went away. I’m leaning more toward Indianapolis metro, but not sure which area would be better. I’m looking for semi rural, not too out in the boonies, but not in the city at ALL. Have no clue what area would be close enough to not be a hell commute, but not so close that we’re exactly where we are now, overcrowded suburbs.
Chicago? I wouldn’t mind it, but I kind of want out of a big ass city. I know nothing at all about the area, and am not sure what would be in our budget but again, not so far away from the city that my husband would be stuck driving forever in traffic hell.
Anyone familiar with either place? I know DF is from Chicago and lives there, but is anyone else able to give me some advice as well? Housing costs are obviously an issue too, they’re offering him around 70K. That’s all we know so far, he’s having lunch with the guy tomorrow. Any input would be awesome, thanks!
Are there any Americans not named Koch who give a shit about Ex-Im?
America's frustrated with Ex-Im Bank, lack of Obamacare repeal, Dodd-Frank, Iran deal, etc. We need a leader who can get things done. -SW
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) July 27, 2015
re: #343 wrenchwench
I’m a medium information voter. I don’t follow the candidates religiously, but I do listen to the news stations a lot. (The tv is on, usually CNN or MSNBC while I’m tinkering around), so I hear a lot of what’s going on. What I don’t hear is Hilary Clinton taking a lead in anything. It’s always somebody else taking on Wall Street or taking on the Planned Parenthood hatchet job. In fact, I haven’t heard her voice in a while. Where the hell is she? She had one appearance a couple of weeks ago the got one-upped by Donald Dick, and she complained about that. Yeah, Chump is a clown, but if Clinton would have more visibility, she wouldn’t have to worry about getting overshadowed by him.
re: #340 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Her career started in 2000. She ran for Senate in a deep blue state. The seat was virtually handed to her. Other than enduring the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, where has she anything on the line over a cause? Most of her righteous indignation over income inequality is the result of Warren and Sanders bringing it up first.
Well, I’d say her career started in early 1993.
And I understand some of what you are saying about visions and policy, but I do believe there are times when you just need a damn good blocker so you can have a running game.
This to me is one of those times. I sure do not want to see an all Republican government with this group of GOP jackals.
Her fight for jobs, women’s rights, dealing with the Middle East and keeping the Republicans from gutting our government and all progressive gains from the past will be tough enough.
Yeah…it isn’t a great time in politics. But important just to hold the damn fort until we get back to some reality in the other party or get a huge turnaround in Dem seats in Congress. And there are those Supreme Court and other Fed Court appointments. All important.
Call it the check and balance position. I sometimes get the feeling people forget the details and get all caught up in thinking they are looking for super-person for president and then it comes down to one person and personality. I’m not a huge lover of Hillary as far as her being my best buddy.
I know I am not prepared for an all-Republican government. That would be devastating.
GOP primary torn between people who think Obama is Hitler and actual fans of Hitler.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 27, 2015
re: #351 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I’m a medium information voter. I don’t follow the candidates religiously, but I do listen to the news stations a lot. (The tv is on, usually CNN or MSNBC while I’m tinkering around), so I hear a lot of what’s going on. What I don’t hear is Hilary Clinton taking a lead in anything. It’s always somebody else taking on Wall Street or taking on the Planned Parenthood hatchet job. In fact, I haven’t heard her voice in a while. Where the hell is she? She had one appearance a couple of weeks ago the got one-upped by Donald Dick, and she complained about that. Yeah, Chump is a clown, but if Clinton would have more visibility, she wouldn’t have to worry about getting overshadowed by him.
You should be a political strategist.
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Really, this reminds me of all the freak out in 2008. The wetting the bed syndrome.
re: #351 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I follow her on Twitter.
Hillary stands up for Planned Parenthood—and women's rights. pic.twitter.com/eZ5LRJyasg
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 23, 2015
I read here and elsewhere on the internet. I am female. I see things. It’s early.
In what world are “death threats” worse than actual death? https://t.co/xiijcOCDwC
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 27, 2015
Officials in Sandra Bland Case Get Death Threats, Arresting Officer Protested at Home https://t.co/U8u0Gy2PQo @gatewaypundit @KristinnFR
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) July 27, 2015
re: #352 ObserverArt
I would say that her career started at least when she was First Lady of Arkansas, because my understanding from reading her book is that she was quite active in policies from the very beginning.
re: #354 blueraven
You should be a political strategist.
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Really, this reminds me of all the freak out in 2008. The wetting the bed syndrome.
It’s a long campaign. Give her time.
re: #336 blueraven
Sure, and that is fine. That is what primaries and elections are all about. But it also goes the other way. Many people don’t think Bernie will fight for their rights either. Or, maybe they don’t believe in the candidate’s solutions.
I just don’t think that Bernie would realistically have a chance to convince a majority of Americans that he is the better candidate. Not that I don’t think he would be.
But the GOP is not out to convince anyone that they have the better candidate, that should be immediately obvious to any True American, they are going to convince us why Hillary is Evil and Must be Stopped.
re: #349 A Mom Anon
Totally off every topic here, but since we’re all scattered to the 4 winds I thought I’d ask:
The Husband is looking at a job offer in either Indianapolis or Chicago. We currently live in metro Atlanta. I have wanted the hell out of here for years, and FINALLY The Husband gets it. It’s a metro area of 7-8 million people, it’s congested and well, its the freaking South. There’s a host of other reasons to go, but it’s just time, I’ve had it here, been here for half my life and I just want out. I simply don’t like it, the place especially, it’s too much house for us, and the place needs more work than we want to keep investing.
I’m from Ohio, he’s from Maryland, so we’re transplants, both moved here in the 80s when our auto jobs went away. I’m leaning more toward Indianapolis metro, but not sure which area would be better. I’m looking for semi rural, not too out in the boonies, but not in the city at ALL. Have no clue what area would be close enough to not be a hell commute, but not so close that we’re exactly where we are now, overcrowded suburbs.
Chicago? I wouldn’t mind it, but I kind of want out of a big ass city. I know nothing at all about the area, and am not sure what would be in our budget but again, not so far away from the city that my husband would be stuck driving forever in traffic hell.
Anyone familiar with either place? I know DF is from Chicago and lives there, but is anyone else able to give me some advice as well? Housing costs are obviously an issue too, they’re offering him around 70K. That’s all we know so far, he’s having lunch with the guy tomorrow. Any input would be awesome, thanks!
You lived in Columbus at one time if I remember correct? I’d say Indianapolis would be a lot like Columbus, maybe a bit less progressive as it can be pretty conservative. But as far as a bigger city surrounded by farm lands, they share a lot of similarities.
I feel despair at Donald Trump’s prominence today because of the damage that Sarah Palin escalated in 2008, by making disgusting, simplistic, partisan dialogue acceptable on a national stage. Trump, win or lose, is just continuing to blow up the same balloon.
re: #358 Iwouldprefernotto
It’s a long campaign. Give her time.
Exactly. She is not going to go toe to toe with every R candidate right now. That would be foolish. Especially as they are eating each other.
She is being very deliberate, and I believe, taking a cue from Obama in not going for the bait. As has been said many times; It is a marathon, not a sprint.
re: #349 A Mom Anon
FWIW, I left Illinois (greater Chicago area) 20 years ago because real estate taxes shot through the roof and I could no longer afford to live there.
re: #362 blueraven
She is being very deliberate, and I believe, taking a cue from Obama in not going for the bait. As has been said many times; It is a marathon, not a sprint.
We are Americans: we want miracle diets, instant cures, immediate responses and election results fifteen months in advance.
re: #345 wrenchwench
Like Jerry Brown getting water restrictions passed?
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. My pooint is that governors usually do a better job of promoting left/right issues than legislators for some reason. I’m not sure that what Gov. Brown accomplished will resonate past the state line. I wish it would, I think he could really move the needle on water management issues. Water conservation is a pretty obvious need, and I think it could open the door for reasonable people to begin to acknowledge climate change
re: #349 A Mom Anon
but again, not so far away from the city that my husband would be stuck driving forever in traffic hell.
Maybe look at what’s available within an easy drive to an all-day lot at a train station? I know nothing about Indianapolis and little about Chicago. I know it has trains.
re: #349 A Mom Anon
If you want to live outside the city and not have a long commute, you don’t want to pick Chicago. But, there are Chicago neighborhoods which can provide a non-city feel, so I wouldn’t rule it out altogether.
re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
We are Americans: we want miracle diets, instant cures, immediate responses and election results fifteen months in advance.
I think Obama is doing Hillary a solid by going after the comments of Trump and Huckabee. He can do it because he has nothing to lose.
The system that killed #SandraBland manifests itself in social media posts like this every day: pic.twitter.com/u11rfyIXEQ
— Broderick Greer (@BroderickGreer) July 27, 2015
re: #357 retired cynic
I would say that her career started at least when she was First Lady of Arkansas, because my understanding from reading her book is that she was quite active in policies from the very beginning.
Good point. She has been active politically all her life if you think about it.
Just not active enough for low information voters! Right Steve?
15 Months Steve. Think you can make it? Gonna be a lot of ups and downs in the mean time.
By the way…how did the media do this to this country. When I was younger I don’t remember the adults at the time and the TV coverage of the time getting into presidential running until around springtime of the election year.
Time to get to work…see you all later.
re: #360 ObserverArt
Yep, I lived and went to school in Gahanna, a long time ago. Have family in SE Ohio, Dayton and Newark, possibly Lancaster, I’m not sure where everyone is. So if Indianapolis is around the size of Columbus, that would be kind of cool. The Kid is probably going to hate the idea, but maybe I can pitch it that driving will be a far less harrowing experience and he’d be more independent there. I’d also be only about 3.5 hours drive from my daughter and 4 grandbabies which is totally exciting to me. Now if I just had a clue about what little town would be the best fit….
re: #369 Jenner7
The system that killed #SandraBland manifests itself in social media posts like this every day:
Yeah but the stupidest man on the internet says there are people protesting the cop who arrested her and that that’s the really tyranny thing.
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re: #349 A Mom Anon
Would you consider Metro* Detroit?
*Metro Detroit includes Wayne, Macomb, & Oakland County
re: #365 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. My pooint is that governors usually do a better job of promoting left/right issues than legislators for some reason. I’m not sure that what Gov. Brown accomplished will resonate past the state line. I wish it would, I think he could really move the needle on water management issues. Water conservation is a pretty obvious need, and I think it could open the door for reasonable people to begin to acknowledge climate change
They’re already idling their SUVs all day on Earth Day to “Piss Off Liberals”. How long before they start leaving their faucets running 24/7 to accomplish the same goal?
re: #350 The Vicious Babushka
America’s frustrated with Ex-Im Bank, lack of Obamacare repeal, Dodd-Frank, Iran deal, etc. We need a leader who can get things done. -SW
Isn’t Obamacare, the Iran Deal, Dodd-Frank, getting things done?
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re: #369 Jenner7
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Ugh, what an embarrassment; to women, to Texas and to humankind.
re: #330 The Vicious Babushka
What a fucking idiot. No wonder wingnuts love him.
Does this PhD tweeter realize that The Donald is never going to the GOP nominee, let alone POTUS?
re: #350 The Vicious Babushka
Are there any Americans not named Koch who give a shit about Ex-Im?
America’s frustrated with Ex-Im Bank, lack of Obamacare repeal, Dodd-Frank, Iran deal, etc. We need a leader who can
get things doneimplement the Koch agenda.
FTFY, Scott
re: #352 ObserverArt
You don’t give the football to a blocker. We need somebody to carry the football. The thing about Hilary Clinton that worries me the most is that in 2008, whenever she and Barack Obama had a pause between primaries, her numbers always went down. Conspicuously here in PA there were six weeks without any primaries leading up to PA. She opened with a twenty point lead and only won by 9. How is she going to manage the two months or so after the convention bounce and that extended period? Is she going to inspire Democrats to turn out, especially in voter restrictive states? Democrats have already proven that unless there is somebody at the top worth turning out for, they’ll sit on their asses and let the Republicans run wild. Even with an inspiring front man like Barack Obama, there isn’t as much cushion as you might think
re: #366 wrenchwench
He has to drive. He does HVAC, Plumbing, Electrical, General Contracting, etc, so he has a truck and a ton of tools that have to go with him daily. Public transportation for him wouldn’t work. For me and the Kid, yep. So we have to stick with outside the city and driving into town unless we can find a place that meets my needs inside the city, which I can’t fathom at this point. I’m looking at maps and google earth but it’s not giving me much beyond population density clues.
Looks like WaPo is also cranking up the slime spreader:
Ralkina Jones died last night in a Cleveland Heights jail. http://t.co/oihlRjWBvn #SayHerName #RalkinaJones
— BlackOUT Collective (@blackoutcollect) July 27, 2015
re: #365 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Brown also, with the help of a Democratic majority state lege, turned California’s finances around. I doubt that he harbors any presidential ambitions these days. Even if he did, he’s smart enough to know that any Democrat president will be fighting continuous battles just to stem the erosion of Obama’s legislative accomplishments and to get his or her nominees to any position confirmed.
re: #381 A Mom Anon
He has to drive. He does HVAC, Plumbing, Electrical, General Contracting, etc, so he has a truck and a ton of tools that have to go with him daily. Public transportation for him wouldn’t work. For me and the Kid, yep. So we have to stick with outside the city and driving into town unless we can find a place that meets my needs inside the city, which I can’t fathom at this point. I’m looking at maps and google earth but it’s not giving me much beyond population density clues.
Good luck. I hope you find a great place!
re: #374 The Vicious Babushka
Girl if I could live close to you and an endless supply of baked goods, I’d be packing the car now, lol. We actually have looked for work for him in that general area and couldn’t find anything.
re: #378 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Does this PhD tweeter realize that The Donald is never going to the GOP nominee, let alone POTUS?
They said the same thing about Reagan, and the modern GOP is the party that can make such conservative fever dreams come true.
re: #349 A Mom Anon
First off, glad to see you’re back! I meant to drop a line a few weeks back and never got around to it.
As far as Indy vs. Chicago: never lived in either, but have visited both a few times. If getting the hell away from people is one of the driving forces, I’d think Indy might be the way to go.
The first time I visited there, I was stunned at the lack of traffic in the city. We met someone near that big war memorial in the center of town around 5PM, aka the height of rush hour. The amount of cars made it feel like a Sunday or a holiday.
Just keep in mind the shit show regarding politics: their Governor Pence was the idiot who tried to legalize discrimination against gays under the guise of religious freedom.
I know a handful of people who live there. Most of them are the types that think Limbaugh doesn’t go far enough. Then again, it doesn’t sound like GA is all that different.
I personally like Chicago better, but I’m drawn to big metropolises like that.
Whatever you decide, best of luck and hope everything works out.
re: #383 Jenner7
Ralkina Jones died last night in a Cleveland Heights jail.
not a model citizen = she deserved her fate
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re: #380 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
You don’t give the football to a blocker. We need somebody to carry the football. The thing about Hilary Clinton that worries me the most is that in 2008, whenever she and Barack Obama had a pause between primaries, her numbers always went down. Conspicuously here in PA there were six weeks without any primaries leading up to PA. She opened with a twenty point lead and only won by 9. How is she going to manage the two months or so after the convention bounce and that extended period? Is she going to inspire Democrats to turn out, especially in voter restrictive states? Democrats have already proven that unless there is somebody at the top worth turning out for, they’ll sit on their asses and let the Republicans run wild. Even with an inspiring front man like Barack Obama, there isn’t as much cushion as you might think
Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential elections.
1992 Clinton/Bush
1996 Clinton/Dole
2000 Gore/Bush
2008 Obama/McCain
2012 Obama/Romney
re: #339 wrenchwench
BTW, I flagged you when I RT this yesterday, but don’t know if you ever saw it. Looks like a baby crow. Too cute by half. ;-)
@EvilMarguerite @myownpetard pic.twitter.com/nDQmjUpWCx
— Ricardo Harvin (@RicardoHarvin) July 26, 2015
re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Looks like WaPo is also cranking up the slime spreader:
I would suggest you look past the obvious. My point about Clinton is that wherever she goes, her numbers go down. For her, targeting non-white voters isn’t a leadership thing, all she’s trying to do is motivate anti-GOP voters. Whatever gains she makes there will probably be offset by her declining support among white voters.
Non-white voters will be disproportionately hit by voter ID laws. They can’t deliver as many votes as the polls will suggest they will. All she’s trying to do is salvage her position in the polls.
re: #384 Higgs Boson’s Mate
I don’t think he has any Presidential aspirations either, but he would be great at pushing a Democratic agenda in the public arena.
Oh, jeez. Even New Mexico:
NM NAACP chapter joins call for removal of Confederate markers in Old Town http://t.co/4UYX53PA4Y
— KOB 4 (@KOB4) July 27, 2015
re: #392 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Read between the lines: “Hillary is turning to bribing sub-standard citizens with Free Stuff to save her.”
re: #390 blueraven
Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential elections.
1992 Clinton/Bush
1996 Clinton/Dole
2000 Gore/Bush
2008 Obama/McCain
2012 Obama/Romney
What do all those ads say?
Past performance is no indicator of future returns
re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Read between the lines: “Hillary is turning to bribing sub-standard citizens with Free Stuff to save her.”
Read above the lines: Hilary Clinton is motivating her base because she can’t cross over.
Fischer: Louisiana Movie Theater Shooter 'Was A Big Time Barack Obama Supporter' http://t.co/JyIPgxCK2M via @rightwingwatch
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 27, 2015
re: #397 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Read above the lines: Hilary Clinton is motivating her base because she can’t cross over.
I am more about the subliminal message the WaPo is sending to its readers. That these voters she is turning to are somehow Untermenschen.
re: #398 Kragar
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Uh huh Bryan. Big time Obama supporters support someone’s re-election because they believe his re-election will cause the country to collapse. Go the fuck away asshole. You and Jim Hoft who convince yourselves that conservatives are incapable of any evil in this world because you’re so deluded with hate for President Obama and the left.
re: #362 blueraven
Exactly. She is not going to go toe to toe with every R candidate right now. That would be foolish. Especially as they are eating each other.
She is being very deliberate, and I believe, taking a cue from Obama in not going for the bait. As has been said many times; It is a marathon, not a sprint.
It’s more of a triathlon.
Let me know when Bernie supporters start switching back to Hilary Clinton.
(BTW, I’ve always had trouble typing Clinton. I keep typing CLinton and have to go back and fix it)
re: #400 HappyWarrior
Uh huh Bryan. Big time Obama supporters support someone’s re-election because they believe his re-election will cause the country to collapse. Go the fuck away asshole. You and Jim Hoft who convince yourselves that conservatives are incapable of any evil in this world because you’re so deluded with hate for President Obama and the left.
They have to comfort their target audience by supplying them with talking points. These are not listening points, mind you, just noise to drown out the other side’s arguments.
re: #402 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Let me know when Bernie supporters start switching back to Hilary Clinton.
(BTW, I’ve always had trouble typing Clinton. I keep typing CLinton and have to go back and fix it)
Commie Leftist in Tons of trouble over Benghazi and deleted e-mails.
/
re: #403 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
They have to comfort their target audience by supplying them with talking points. These are not listening points, mind you, just noise to drown out the other side’s arguments.
It really is pathetic. It’s like these guys have a chip inside them that will claim any mass murderer or criminal is an Obama supporter. If Bryan or Jim themselves committed one of these murders, I bet the other would try to claim that the other was actually a liberal Obama supporter.
re: #396 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
What do all those ads say?
Past performance is no indicator of future returns
I was responding to your statement:
Democrats have already proven that unless there is somebody at the top worth turning out for, they’ll sit on their asses and let the Republicans run wild.
I don’t think that holds up under scrutiny. Not for Presidential elections anyway.
For those wondering about Clinton’s term as senator, this daily kos comment shows a list of environmental acts she proposed (it does not include those cosponsored).
#whenTrumpiselected there will be hell toupee
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 27, 2015
re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I am more about the subliminal message the WaPo is sending to its readers. That these voters she is turning to are somehow Untermenschen.
I agree with your characterization, but there is still a valid political story here. In 2008 she had to rely on white voters because she could not cross over to non-white voters. Like I said before, everywhere she went, her numbers went down.
She is starting with a base of support, part of whom admire her and part of whom hate the GOP. What this article says to me is that she can’t increase the pool of people who admire her, so she has to settle for anti-GOP voters. Seriously, let me know when Bernie voters start going back to Hilary. It won’t happen until after the primaries begin, Bernie starts losing and his campaign will start to fizzle. That’s a long way from winning them back now. She should be able to tell Bernie supporters (I wish his name weren’t Bernie because i would love to abbreviate but that would make me type BS) that she can deliver the reforms that he won’t be able to (because Bernie would have no shot in the general). For some reason, she can’t make that case.
I think that deep down, people believe that Hilary Clinton is as sleazy as Bill. I don’t, and I never cared about what President Clinton did, but in a way, he made W possible.
re: #410 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Hillary brings a ton and a half of baggage with her, and the GOP will be sorting through every nook and cranny of it once the campaign starts in earnest
re: #408 Belafon
People can propose all kinds of shit, but I swear I never heard her stick her neck out over that stuff.
re: #410 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
(I wish his name weren’t Bernie because i would love to abbreviate but that would make me type BS)
That doesn’t seem to be too big of a hardship.
/teasing
Did Clinton ever do a John McCain and tell people to calm down over that Rev Wright shit? As I remember, that all came out during the primaries, but somehow I don’t remember Hilary Clinton trying to calm the waters.
Anyway, I hate to leave in the middle of a discussion, but I do have to get back to studying.
mmmmmmmmm liverwurst, onion & swiss on rye.
re: #415 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I’m sorry, I like you, but it seems to me you are having a discussion with yourself.
re: #349 A Mom Anon
Indy is pretty nice, its not great, we do have some nice museums (one of the best “Children’s Museums” in the world…I’m almost 40 no kids…its still fun there) and a nice varied supply of restaurants scattered.
We are kinda known as “India-NO-place”, a not-entirely-undeserved nickname, in terms of big events. There’s plenty to do, but its mostly low-key stuff. Cost of living is not insane here, and the city has areas where you can get the big-city feel if you feel the need, without a big-city drive.
However…I’ve lived here my entire life, and given the choice, I’d take Chicago, just for the NOT HERE ANYMORE)
re: #344 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I was just thinking, where the hell are the Democratic Governors? Not literally (even though most states have Republican govs), but seriously, Republicans have a bunch of governors raising hell and carrying news cycles. Governors are usually in a perfect position to raise hell for their causes because they don’t have to be wonky like reps and senators. I guess you may have noticed that firebrand legislators never seem to get anything done, but the quiet ones do.
Well, you have CNN giving face time to people who lost their governor’s races to whitesplain Black Lives Matter, so there’s that.
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re: #388 Mattand
First off, glad to see you’re back! I meant to drop a line a few weeks back and never got around to it.
As far as Indy vs. Chicago: never lived in either, but have visited both a few times. If getting the hell away from people is one of the driving forces, I’d think Indy might be the way to go.
The first time I visited there, I was stunned at the lack of traffic in the city. We met someone near that big war memorial in the center of town around 5PM, aka the height of rush hour. The amount of cars made it feel like a Sunday or a holiday.
Just keep in mind the shit show regarding politics: their Governor Pence was the idiot who tried to legalize discrimination against gays under the guise of religious freedom.
I know a handful of people who live there. Most of them are the types that think Limbaugh doesn’t go far enough. Then again, it doesn’t sound like GA is all that different.
I personally like Chicago better, but I’m drawn to big metropolises like that.
Whatever you decide, best of luck and hope everything works out.
At least their civil war memorial honors the right side.
re: #417 retired cynic
I peeked, but I can’t imagine what that is supposed to mean.
re: #421 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. You seem to be trying to rip Hillary and keep answering yourself. You could just say you don’t like her and don’t think she can win, and let it go.
re: #414 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I would say, McCain’s response was more measured than Clinton’s. But honestly, she was still fighting for nomination, would you have gone out of your way to defend Obama? Obama’s campaign response was to go after her about her Bosnia “under fire” story. So, it’s politics.
re: #398 Kragar
I’m almost starting to think that Brother Bryan Fischer is slightly partisan in his commentary.
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Had to log back in to ask Steve McGaziBolaGate something.
Steve, do you need a paper bag to breathe into? You seem to be hyperventilating.
Like when you typed…”That’s a long way from winning them back now.”
It sure is. And just as long way is the election.
What is the reason she needs to win them back now? Other than to make YOU feel better, really there is time.
Bernie, if you hadn’t noticed, may have really hurt his chances with minority voters. His awkward handling the Black Lives Matter protesters wasn’t real good. That may make other Bernie lovers rethink him.
In other words…plenty of time for mistakes and recoveries and more mistakes and recoveries all around.
You may have a few heart attacks in all the time. That’s not good. Breathe in, breathe out…think calm thoughts. We need you in a few months.
re: #419 BeachDem
Well, you have CNN giving face time to people who lost their governor’s races to whitesplain Black Lives Matter, so there’s that.
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Wtf CNN.
re: #285 Kryptik
there are any number of bright points that you can reference…
We have recovered (to a degree) from the economic precipice… jobs are slowly returning and as a start, economic inequity is actually being talked about
dope is being decriminalized
minimum wage increases are on the rise in numerous referendums
Obama is doing what he can to bring a measured take to our foriegn policy from what I’ve seen. Is he batting a 1.000? No, but who does?
Gay rights, ‘natch
all of the faux scandals have been revealed to be just that faux.
Despite the horse race narrative that persists in the media, I think more and more Americans “get it”, that while the Dems may not have all of the answers to all of the questions, they are at least willing to do something than nuke the next trouble-spot or put boots on the ground. The GOP is busy trying to find the next shiny and are busy trying to out hyperbole each other by finding the next bogeyman.
Yes, there’s still a great deal of un-fucking to do, but while the bad guys own most of the media and take up a significant part of the chorus, they’re tried and true methods don’t appear to be as affective as they used to be.
re: #341 ObserverArt
Yes, but you are discussing it on a board where many have grown up with the very cumbersome term Indian meaning native Americans.
Sometimes it is damn tough to get past those first impressions that hit your mind when you hear a word.
And I now that doesn’t make it right. Just work with it! : )
When one actually starts the discussion about a subject (as opposed to joining later), I do expect them to actually follow it.
Some observations on Hillary vs. whoever:
1) Sixteen months to go. So we can stop talking about it for 10 months and still have half a year in which to make a decision.
Actually, that’s only one point.
re: #429 iossarian
Some observations on Hillary vs. whoever:
1) Sixteen months to go. So we can stop talking about it for 10 months and still have half a year in which to make a decision.
Actually, that’s only one point.
Yay!
re: #420 BlueSpotinAL
Oh, another warning. We are in construction on the highways ALL THE DAMN TIME. But Shadeland Avenue is basically looks like the U.S.S. Vengeance landed there…
re: #426 HappyWarrior
Wtf CNN.
I knew you’d respond! (Posted it last night when you weren’t here, so decided it needed a re-post. And notice, it’s Bakari Sellers who Cuccinelli is whitesplainin’ it to. Sigh.)
re: #429 iossarian
Some observations on Hillary vs. whoever:
1) Sixteen months to go. So we can stop talking about it for 10 months and still have half a year in which to make a decision.
Actually, that’s only one point.
The work that determines whether HRC or Walker will be president will be completed in less than 6 months.
re: #414 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Did Clinton ever do a John McCain and tell people to calm down over that Rev Wright shit? As I remember, that all came out during the primaries, but somehow I don’t remember Hilary Clinton trying to calm the waters.
Well since his VP choice was responsible for most of that insane rhetoric, he probably felt the need to clean it up a bit.
I voted Hillary for the nomination in 2008. I didn’t know much about Obama and thought Hillary would have been better. She lost and I wasn’t happy. But, I got to know Obama and voted for him. I’m very happy he won and he’s done a tremendous job, considering what he’s had to deal with (Republicans).
In hindsight, maybe Hillary did feel she was entitled to win in 2008. But I’m not going to hold that against her and I hope she’s learned from the mistakes of her last campaign. I think she is far more qualified than Bernie and anything GOP would be insane. So, yes it’s early, but she’s got my vote IF she’s the nominee. You never know. I hope she is, because I don’t think anyone else in the Dem field can beat the GOP nominee.
For everyone who has been wanting some more Democratic candidates, I present, for your viewing enjoyment
Viva Mike Wiley, the 6th candidate, a Jefferson-Jackson Democrat.
re: #428 Nyet
When one actually starts the discussion about a subject (as opposed to joining later), I do expect them to actually follow it.
I understand. Know your players is all I can offer.
If the conversation is stopped there is no chance for changing of minds or further education. A good teacher knows that. And, there is always a chance for change if everyone keeps talking. Always.
Can you neatly divide humans into two groups — male & female? The world of #sports has a problem. http://t.co/3ZgGdLc7Lf
— Shankar Vedantam (@HiddenBrain) July 27, 2015
Her case demonstrates further that biological gender is part of a spectrum, not a this-or-that definition easily divided for matters such as sport. But it also leaves sports officials wondering how and where to set the boundaries between male and female competition.
re: #429 iossarian
Some observations on Hillary vs. whoever:
1) Sixteen months to go. So we can stop talking about it for 10 months and still have half a year in which to make a decision.
Actually, that’s only one point.
We are wasting a lot of money, time and effort on this ridiculously long campaign season. So long it interferes with the day to day running of cities, states and the feds. Fat city for media of all kinds.
When people find out how bad a job Scott Walker has done in WI, they won’t be voting for him. Massive deficit, bad jobs forecast, a mess.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 27, 2015
re: #436 BeachDem
For everyone who has been wanting some more Democratic candidate, I present, for your viewing enjoyment
Viva Mike Wiley, the 6th candidate, a Jefferson-Jackson Democrat.
Certain to get the “Cherokees for Andrew Jackson” endorsement.
Huffpo goes arabic. Wingnuts heads about to explode?
Going to lay down for a bit, I think I have an ear infection. Ugh. I hate going to the doctor. BBL.
sigh
.@HillaryClinton: You finally come out of hiding to attack me for defending Israel? What's “unacceptable” is a mushroom cloud over Israel.
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) July 27, 2015
WTFITS
I just can’t even
The moment @ehasselbeck suggests #SandraBland might have been thinking of using her cigarette as a weapon. http://t.co/1JfT3lc6Hx
— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) July 27, 2015
re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yep, he’s trying to make the first debate.
re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Huck, I’ve said it again and again, if you believe the Iranians are crazy enough to nuke Israel, then they’re too crazy to negotiate with. And if that’s the case, then you must be thinking the only choice is war.
re: #429 iossarian
Some observations on Hillary vs. whoever:
1) Sixteen months to go. So we can stop talking about it for 10 months and still have half a year in which to make a decision.
Actually, that’s only one point.
I’d love a constitutional amendment that says no campaigning till 6 months prior to the general election. I know, I know, but it is such a pleasant fantasy…
re: #450 Nyet
What’s wrong with Arabic?
Stupid question, I know.
It looks terrible if you have sloppy handwriting.
Awesome if you don’t.
re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth
Funny, according to your Rapture nonsense, its what you're hoping for. http://t.co/UHM6otuDkl @GovMikeHuckabee @HillaryClinton
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 27, 2015
re: #446 The Vicious Babushka
WTFITS
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Damn. Who knew I was armed and dangerous about 10-15 times a day!!
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re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump, Walker OK with Huckabee calling Obama Hitler, wish they'd said it first http://t.co/DnD3pJwfW8 pic.twitter.com/555PZ2Mvw8
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) July 27, 2015
BUT DON’T GIVE TEH LAZY LITTLE BRATS HEALTHCARE THROUGH MEDICAID EXPANSION!!!!!!!
.@TonetteWalker on “Preventing child abuse and neglect is a moral and economic imperative” READ: http://t.co/TTEWCZ4AWD #Walker16
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) July 27, 2015
Really gotta go, but last word for a while
I will vote for Hilary CLinton. (Did it again, not fixing it GRR) I hope she learned from the shortcomings of 2008. I really don’t know if she did yetbecause right now the running is easy and Bernie is a pinprick. I’m not here to say she’s acrook or anything, and I wouldn’t no matter what. I’m here to say that she has flaws (like everybody), but potentially big ones.
I’m a critical bastard. I look for cracks, dents, blemishes. She’s got them in important places. I think that I made some legitimate points about maintaining her polls rather than winning voters and some other issues. I am no mere gainsayer or Debbie Downer. It was Hilary CLinton’s nomination to lose in 2008, and she lost it. Now it’s the general election for her to lose, and I’m not taking her for granted, not with all this GOP crap going on.
Through the fog of misinformation comes yet another sign that the ACA is working. CA is setting the 2016 rates, and they show a stable marketplace. There is actually room for people to save quite a bit of money on plans if they’re willing to shop around and might do better (if they’re willing to consider different networks).
Huge. But it's not like ACA opponents care about the numbers or facts. They'll keep warm at nite w/anecdotes https://t.co/hkPHKB5IHC
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 27, 2015
.@TonetteWalker on “Preventing child abuse and neglect is a moral and economic imperative” READ: http://t.co/TTEWCZ4AWD #Walker16
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) July 27, 2015
But don't give the lazy little brats healthcare through Medicaid expansion! #tcot #UniteBlue #scottwalker https://t.co/GM2A9QMhOX
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 27, 2015
re: #180 CuriousLurker
He picked the wrong one, and she wasn’t carrying:
Surprise, asshole!
Creepy guy—wait till you see the stuff he had in his trunk.
I’m happy this turned out the way it did, but I think that if a woman can turn a male attacker’s gun against him, it pretty much destroys the idea of guns making people powerful or safe.
It’ll generally be easier for a man to take a woman’s gun away, so the whole wingnut anti-rape meme is discredited.
The more people we have running around with guns, the more guns that will be taken from people and used against them.
re: #440 The Vicious Babushka
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Sure, but smart people aren't going to vote for ANYONE clueless enough to associate with the anti-reality Republicans. @realDonaldTrump
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) July 27, 2015
re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth
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You're not defending Israel, you're pandering to #wingnuts. You religious fantasists WANT to see Israel destroyed. @GovMikeHuckabee lies.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) July 27, 2015
re: #381 A Mom Anon
I’m looking at maps and google earth but it’s not giving me much beyond population density clues.
Rural Indianapolis gets really fundamentalist really, really fast.
re: #462 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
Hope you see this in a dead thread, AMomAnon…
I have family in both Indy and Chicago. From the criteria you describe, you’re going to be much happier in Indy. Yes, it’s full of RW politics, but…most of Hamilton County (Indianapolis metro) is in “Unigov,” so you’ll be governed by a countywide government dominated by urban Democrats in the middle of the city. You can stay within Hamilton County and still be somewhere fairly rural yet within a 30-minute drive of downtown Indy and all kinds of urban cultural amenities.
The expensive part of town is up due north - Carmel, Fishers. Just about anywhere else, you’ll find very comfortable housing for $200k or less. Look at the I-69 corridor NE of town, or the I-65 corridor NW of town. The south side is a little more downscale. If you’re willing to have a longer commute, you could go SE out toward Shelbyville.
Point is - what you’re looking for exists around Indy. For Chicago, you’d be adding an hour of commute time and doubling housing costs. Is it worth it?
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