Rand Paul Pushing to Defund Planned Parenthood and Subvert Mitch McConnell

A very strange kind of libertarian, who wants to take away women’s rights
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Rand Paul likes to present himself as a civil libertarian, but his stance on reproductive rights is straight from the darkest, most regressive part of the Republican Party’s war on women. He’s currently pushing to defund Planned Parenthood with an amendment to a mass transit funding bill, despite Mitch McConnell’s block:

“I’m going to try to force a vote on this. I think the time is now to discuss whether taxpayer dollars should be going to such a gruesome procedure,” Paul said on “Fox News Sunday.”

“People are outraged by this and I think the American people deserve to have a vote on it,” Paul said.

The Kentucky lawmaker said he was pursuing several strategies to defund the group, including a “discharge petition” requiring the support of at least 16 other senators.

Several Republican senators have accused Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) of blocking a vote to defund Planned Parenthood.

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221 comments
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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:22:40am

Screwing the nation’s economy and infrastructure by attempting to defund an organization that provides health care to millions of women.

It combines their two biggest trends over the past decade - misogyny and depriving the nation of properly funding infrastructure to prepare for future.

In other words, it’s the perfect bill for the GOP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:28:17am

The Margaret Sanger article was bumped to the top of featured pages, maybe the comments can be re-opened?

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:30:29am

Yeah, he is a Libertarian with a strong Evangelical streak. The worst of both worlds.

This is campaign politics carried to the Senate floor. Shame on all of these assholes trying to score points in the republican primary. Especially Cruz and Paul.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:32:06am

re: #3 blueraven

Yeah, he is a Libertarian with a strong Evangelical streak. The worst of both worlds.

This is campaign politics carried to the Senate floor. Shame on all of these assholes trying to score points in the republican primary. Especially Cruz and Paul.

Rand Paul is only pandering to the evangelicals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:33:02am

re: #3 blueraven

This is campaign politics carried to the Senate floor. Shame on all of these assholes trying to score points in the republican primary. Especially Cruz and Paul.

You beat me to it with that comment, This is all about getting enough poll recognition to make the cut for the upcoming GOP debates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:33:31am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul is only pandering to the evangelicals.

In other words, to the GOP base. Those are the people who count right now.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:34:17am

re: #3 blueraven

Fairly sure he’s just an asshole pandering to his base.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:34:46am

re: #3 blueraven

Yeah, he is a Libertarian with a strong Evangelical streak. The worst of both worlds.

This is campaign politics carried to the Senate floor. Shame on all of these assholes trying to score points in the republican primary. Especially Cruz and Paul.

Rand Paul is a soulless con artist who had hit the wall with the Libertarian schtick, so he decided to go full retard to attract the religious nutbags, while hoping his Libertarian buddies think he’s kidding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:34:58am

LOL Trump is talking about other people having egos?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:36:10am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

LOL Trump is talking about other people having egos?

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Trump is resonating with people he should be ashamed to resonate with, except he lacks any sense of shame.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:36:28am

re: #1 lawhawk

It’s very unsettling to me that the Republicans are tearing things down largely because those things were put up by others. They aren’t offering a grand vision, much less viable alternatives, The Republicans have become just like these guys:

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:37:40am

I recently took a look at this guy’s articles and he praises Rand and Ron Paul as pro-Russian politicians. Not a big surprise.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:37:46am

I really should bookmark this the next time a wingnut asserts to me that Republicans aren’t slowly strangling our infrastructure of funding.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:38:26am

re: #11 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It’s very unsettling to me that the Republicans are tearing things down largely because those things were put up by others. They aren’t offering a grand vision, much less viable alternatives, The Republicans have become just like these guys:

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Interestingly, the Confederate Flag defenders are claiming that taking that haterag off of government buildings is like ISIS blowing up ancient ruins in Palymyra.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:41:03am

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

Interestingly, the Confederate Flag defenders are claiming that taking that haterag off of government buildings is like ISIS blowing up ancient ruins in Palymyra.

They were comparing the sandblasting of Stone Mountain to the Taliban blowing up the Bamiyan Buddha.

But they lost their shit when somebody suggesting carving MLK above the other figures on Stone Mountain.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:41:37am

Ted Cruz just wanted a roll-call vote on Sunday. Instead, he got a smackdown.

Republican leaders, led by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), delivered what senators described as punishment for Cruz’s brazen floor tactics — the Texas senator first accused McConnell of lying and later sought to change Senate procedures in order to push for an Iran-related amendment.

So when Cruz came to the floor looking for at least 11 senators to agree to hold a roll-call vote, only three raised their hands. McConnell, sitting at his desk, turned around and peered at Cruz, who looked stunned at what had just happened. The Senate dispensed with his effort by a voice vote and quickly moved on, doing the same to Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), a Cruz ally who sought to use arcane procedures to force a vote on defunding Planned Parenthood.

It all went down in an instant, but the message was clear: If Cruz doesn’t want to play nice with his Republican colleagues, they will respond in kind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:41:43am

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

Interestingly, the Confederate Flag defenders are claiming that taking that haterag off of government buildings is like ISIS blowing up ancient ruins in Palymyra.

If we were defiling and desecrating these monuments, then they might make that claim. We have just decided that certain symbols do not belong on government property, where they are given the cachet of approval.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:42:09am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

The Margaret Sanger article was bumped to the top of featured pages, maybe the comments can be re-opened?

That’s an automatic thing - not something I can easily change. All comments are disabled after a post is older than 7 days.

I have occasionally wanted to keep comments open longer on some articles, though - so maybe I’ll look into a way to do this.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:42:36am
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Jayleia  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:42:53am
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blueraven  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:43:57am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

LOL Trump is talking about other people having egos?

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He reminds me of Newt Gingrich in December 2011.

“I’m going to be the nominee,” the former Speaker told ABC News. “It’s very hard not to look at the recent polls and think that the odds are very high I’m going to be the nominee.”

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:44:10am

re: #19 wrenchwench

Only Charles knows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:44:56am

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

They were comparing the sandblasting of Stone Mountain to the Taliban blowing up the Bamiyan Buddha.

But they lost their shit when somebody suggesting carving MLK above the other figures on Stone Mountain.

Did someone propose sandblasting Stone Mountain? As much as I detest the imagery and symbolism, I think that would go a bit too far. Just make sure that the visitors to the site are made clear about who these gentlemen were, what they fought for, and what the people who carved their images into the mountainside stood for…

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:46:30am
Not one of the characters in the story

Edited to add: SATIRE WEB SITE

BREAKING: Operation Jade Helm Claims First Civilian Casualty

So two patriots decide to help law enforcement…then

It was on their way back towards the Wal-Mart on W Ford Rd that Burt’s pickup truck struck a deer, critically wounding the animal. Seeing the deer in distress, Burt decided a mercy kill was in order. The bullet from Williams’ AR 15 allegedly blasted through the deer’s brain and ricocheted off the road, striking fellow PP4T member Cledus Reed in the throat, killing him almost instantly.

The name Cledus is real! The whole story is at this website (which is serious about Jade Helm, and has “questions”):

Link

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:47:52am

re: #21 blueraven

Speaking of Newt:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:48:24am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Did someone propose sandblasting Stone Mountain? As much as I detest the imagery and symbolism, I think that would go a bit too far. Just make sure that the visitors to the site are made clear about who these gentlemen were, what they fought for, and what the people who carved their images into the mountainside stood for…

Yeah they did propose sandblasting Stone Mountain.

BTW it’s not “historic” it was carved in the 1970’s.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:49:41am

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah they did propose sandblasting Sand Mountain.

BTW it’s not “historic” it was carved in the 1970’s.

How did a bunch of crackers afford that many Legos?

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:49:57am

re: #24 BlueSpotinAL

Some folks will never eat a skunk, but then again some folk’ll…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:50:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:51:54am

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah they did propose sandblasting Stone Mountain.

BTW it’s not “historic” it was carved in the 1970’s.

I thought it was older than that, but nonetheless, any visitor’s guide should highlight the true agenda behind the people who saw it fit to put those three figures there.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:52:02am

non-sequitur:

I’m reading the NYMag story about Cosby’s victims, and the picture of Janice Dickinson looks *a lot* like Caitlyn Jenner.

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:52:13am

Having some libertarian leanings myself, I am always skeptical of people who claim to be pro-life and libertarian. I’m not saying that those positions are necessarily contradictory - it’s that personal vs public policy thing, one can be uncomfortable with abortion on a personal level but still recognize that banning it is terrible policy. But those who call themselves libertarians and then actively campaign to use the force of government to ban abortion are in an interesting position. I’m sure some came to that position in an honest way, but it is still striking to me because it seems to run counter to the general disposition of libertarianism.

And I could even understand a libertarian supporting defunding Planned Parenthood because they take the view that almost everything should be defunded. But this feels much more opportunistic rather than a libertarian purity dance move.

I’m also trying to figure out how Rand Paul got the libertarian tag anyway… he’s opposed to gay marriage, he wants to use government to ban abortion, he’s not particularly in favor of immigration reform and wants “border security” (a more “pure” libertarian view would be closer to an open border policy), he doesn’t even appear to be in favor of decriminalizing marijuana (let alone other drugs).

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:52:32am

Donald Trump resonates with the GOP base like the wind resonated with the Tacoma Narrows bridge.

…

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:53:01am
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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:53:14am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

LOL Trump is talking about other people having egos?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:53:38am

re: #12 Nyet

I recently took a look at this guy’s articles and he praises Rand and Ron Paul as pro-Russian politicians. Not a big surprise.

Rohrer: Russia Is Now ‘The Moral Leader Of The World’ For Cracking Down On Homosexuality

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:53:42am

re: #29 FormerDirtDart

“@yankee31210 If career politicians would think past their own egos, they’d know why @realDonaldTrump is resonating w/ppl.”
— Donald J. Trump

Trump knows Ego.

/

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jamesfirecat  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:54:34am

re: #32 KGxvi

I’m also trying to figure out how Rand Paul got the libertarian tag anyway…

Inherited it from his father.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:54:45am

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I hate American wingnuts because I hate Russian wingnuts.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:55:09am

re: #38 jamesfirecat

Inherited it from his father.

Maybe he’s only half-libertarian…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:55:14am

re: #16 Kragar

RINOs

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:56:08am

re: #40 Nyet

Maybe he’s only half-libertarian…

Maybe that makes him a librarian?

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:56:59am

re: #32 KGxvi

Having some libertarian leanings myself, I am always skeptical of people who claim to be pro-life and libertarian. I’m not saying that those positions are necessarily contradictory - it’s that personal vs public policy thing, one can be uncomfortable with abortion on a personal level but still recognize that banning it is terrible policy. But those who call themselves libertarians and then actively campaign to use the force of government to ban abortion are in an interesting position. I’m sure some came to that position in an honest way, but it is still striking to me because it seems to run counter to the general disposition of libertarianism.

And I could even understand a libertarian supporting defunding Planned Parenthood because they take the view that almost everything should be defunded. But this feels much more opportunistic rather than a libertarian purity dance move.

I’m also trying to figure out how Rand Paul got the libertarian tag anyway… he’s opposed to gay marriage, he wants to use government to ban abortion, he’s not particularly in favor of immigration reform and wants “border security” (a more “pure” libertarian view would be closer to an open border policy), he doesn’t even appear to be in favor of decriminalizing marijuana (let alone other drugs).

The libertarian view on border security is let people in to work legally, but don’t let them become citizens. ‘Freedom for me but not for thee.’ That relates to the position on abortion.

Rand got the libertarian tag from his father, who owns it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:56:59am

re: #16 Kragar

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Ted Cruz burns his bridges while standing on them.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:57:02am

re: #40 Nyet

Maybe he’s only half-libertarian…

His father is also an ignorant social conservative who calls himself “Libertarian.”

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:57:12am

re: #24 BlueSpotinAL

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BREAKING: Operation Jade Helm Claims First Civilian Casualty

So two patriots decide to help law enforcement…then

The name Cledus is real! The whole story is at this website (which is serious about Jade Helm, and has “questions”):

Link

Since a ricochet is generally at about the same angle as the impact trajectory, doesn’t that imply that his buddy was standing opposite him on the other side of the deer? Highly unlikely he was behind or alongside him

RBS

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:58:37am

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe that makes him a librarian?

Nah, then would have been useful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:59:08am

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rohrer: Russia Is Now ‘The Moral Leader Of The World’ For Cracking Down On Homosexuality

I mentioned in previous thread how I arrived in Moscow in 1992, and a friend, a theater critic, took me to an all-male production of Jean Genet’s “The Servants” about two lesbian servants who plot to murder their lesbian mistress, with whom they have all been involved in a love triangle.

It was a big, big deal in Moscow theater circles that something of that nature was allowed, I was mildly amused because it would hardly have raised an eyebrow in any major Western city. (I kept it to myself, did not want to dampen these people’s gay parade, so to speak)

But now, over 20 years later, it is unthinkable again…a truly scary thought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:59:15am

re: #34 Kragar

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:59:44am

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

Ted Cruz burns his bridges while standing on them.

You mess with the bull, you get the horn.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:59:54am

re: #35 No Country For Old Haters

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YOOJE EGO!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:00:07pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which symbol enslaved millions of blacks?

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:00:18pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

I’m not sure there’s “one true libertarian” view on most issues. There are some who favor open borders (if you’re looking for a sound bite position that’s probably where I fall on immigration), there are some who take the position you state, and probably 20 other positions. Getting libertarians to agree isn’t the easiest thing in the world.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:00:49pm

re: #35 No Country For Old Haters

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2. Donald Trump whines to ‘Morning Joe’ about not getting enough attention. ‘Morning Joe’ laughs and laughs and laughs.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:01:30pm

On cue, the right wing rags and Drudge pushing yet another claim out of thin air about an Obama gun grab (this time claiming that the guns will be restricted/taken based on Social Security records declaring people incompetent or mentally ill).

Meanwhile, gun sales continue unabated.

As do the gun deaths.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:01:38pm

re: #24 BlueSpotinAL

[Embedded content]

BREAKING: Operation Jade Helm Claims First Civilian Casualty

So two patriots decide to help law enforcement…then

The name Cledus is real! The whole story is at this website (which is serious about Jade Helm, and has “questions”):

Link

re: #46 RealityBasedSteve

Since a ricochet is generally at about the same angle as the impact trajectory, doesn’t that imply that his buddy was standing opposite him on the other side of the deer? Highly unlikely he was behind or alongside him

RBS

Umm…people….
It’s a satire news site.
Go to the sites home page, look at the stories

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:03pm

Paul is a paleocon just like his father. Likes to use the liberty talk but the reality is he’s basically Pat Buchanan if Pat were okay with drugs being legalized in the states.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:12pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

Palin forgot to add, “When you was slaves, you sang like birds.”

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:32pm
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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:33pm

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Which symbol enslaved millions of blacks?

The blacks themselves were responsible for it, since there were black slave traders in Africa. /// (Believe it or not, that it’s an argument I’ve actually seen put forward)

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:49pm

re: #3 blueraven

Yeah, he is a Libertarian with a strong Evangelical streak. The worst of both worlds.

This is campaign politics carried to the Senate floor. Shame on all of these assholes trying to score points in the republican primary. Especially Cruz and Paul.

He’s not a LIbertarian, he just plays one in the Senate. Libertarians are not against abortion or gay marriage.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:02:57pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

Ted Cruz burns his bridges while standing on them.

Well, now that you mention it—he does kind of look like Wile E. Coyote.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:00pm

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not really, you saw it in Viktyuk’s theatre and it’s still being shown.

…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:06pm

re: #55 lawhawk

On cue, the right wing rags and Drudge pushing yet another claim out of thin air about an Obama gun grab (this time claiming that the guns will be restricted/taken based on Social Security records declaring people incompetent or mentally ill).

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The NRA is crying gun taking again. Shit was sad in the Clinton years and it’s even more pathetic in the Obama years knowing that this is what they do after every single gun related tragedy. Gotta keep the rubes scared and paying for Wayne LaPierre’s beach houses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:15pm

Finally managed to get my ancient Mac Mini to boot.
Now trying to sort out which files are important enough to email to myself, just in case it decides to die for good.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:21pm

re: #46 RealityBasedSteve

Since a ricochet is generally at about the same angle as the impact trajectory, doesn’t that imply that his buddy was standing opposite him on the other side of the deer? Highly unlikely he was behind or alongside him

RBS

Exactly what I thought, deflection off of a bone means he did not have to be exactly opposite to get hit. Cledus may have thought he was safe assuming a simple angle of incidence = angle of reflection idea of possible trajectories.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:24pm

re: #55 lawhawk

NRA: Obama pushing ‘largest gun grab in American history’… t.co
— Drudge Report Feed

Well, the NRA is a balanced, reasonable and credible news source.

////

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:45pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart

Umm…people….
It’s a satire news site.
Go to the sites home page, look at the stories

Damn.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:03:59pm

re: #60 RealityBasedSteve

The blacks themselves were responsible for it, since there were black slave traders in Africa. /// (Believe it or not, that it’s an argument I’ve actually seen put forward)

HURR HURR THEIR WAS ONE BLACK SLAVE OWNER IN 1650 AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF A 19TH CENTURY ABOLITIONIST TO PROVE IT!!!!!!!11

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:04:13pm

re: #61 Iwouldprefernotto

He’s not a LIbertarian, he just plays one in the Senate. Libertarians are not against abortion or gay marriage.

Exactly. I am not fan of libertarian ideology but Paul isn’t one. He’s a paleocon that poses as one to make himself look more appealing to younger voters.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:04:17pm

re: #53 KGxvi

Getting libertarians to agree isn’t the easiest thing in the world.

That’s the main reason Rand is running as a Republican. And he’s showing how many ‘libertarian’ positions are consistent with ‘Republican’ positions.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:05:02pm

re: #61 Iwouldprefernotto

He’s not a LIbertarian, he just plays one in the Senate. Libertarians are not against abortion or gay marriage.

It is possible to be a Libertarian and be against abortion.

But only in the sense, in which it is possible to be a Libertarian and, say, be for murdering non-white people.

In the first case one believes that non-persons are persons.

In the second case one believes that persons are non-persons.

Both views are equally unsupported by evidence.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:05:20pm

re: #61 Iwouldprefernotto

He’s not a LIbertarian, he just plays one in the Senate. Libertarians are not against abortion or gay marriage.

Paul-Libertarians are against abortion. I used to know a Ron Paul supporter who started as pro-choice, but was talked into being a forced-birther by Ron Paul. All it takes is pretending that a fetus or blastocyst is a person with full human-rights. Once you fall for that, it’s pretty easy to fall on the anti-freedom side of this issue.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:06:30pm

re: #53 KGxvi

I’m not sure there’s “one true libertarian” view on most issues. There are some who favor open borders (if you’re looking for a sound bite position that’s probably where I fall on immigration), there are some who take the position you state, and probably 20 other positions. Getting libertarians to agree isn’t the easiest thing in the world.

I think that’s why they’ll never be a successful party. I actually know a lot of libertarians. My alma mater was full of em. Another problem I observed during the Va governor’s race was that while they ran a candidate for governor, they didn’t bother running one for Lt Governor or AG. Libertarians want to be a major party but they don’t want to do the work that is required to become a major party in my observations since they’re too busy arguing about who is more purer than thou.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:06:56pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, Sarah. Just come back to your room, please. It’s time for your medication.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:06:57pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart

Umm…people….
It’s a satire news site.
Go to the sites home page, look at the stories

Dang it! Should have known Cledus was too good to be true. Thanks.

I shall add an edit to the original noting that, and add this to my list of “satire” sites.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:07:05pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I refer you to my post of yesterday, Wingnut Logic. In brief, black people should not have so many children, but if they do anything to stop having so many children, it’s genocide.

It’s a twofer, available to those who are unconcerned with consistency.

Note also that PP didn’t grab pregnant black women off the street and perform abortions on them without consent. No, those women went to PP to seek abortions. This essentially reduces those women to children not responsible for their own actions, and unable to make their own decisions.

And they wonder why most black people don’t vote for the GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:07:12pm

re: #60 RealityBasedSteve

The blacks themselves were responsible for it, since there were black slave traders in Africa. /// (Believe it or not, that it’s an argument I’ve actually seen put forward)

Since one black is responsible for the actions of every other black person. (This rule does not apply to whites who murder churchgoers)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:07:44pm

re: #63 Nyet

Not really, you saw it in Viktyuk’s theatre and it’s still being shown.

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Well stick me with a fork. How much longer?

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:08:43pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I actually know a lot of libertarians. My alma mater was full of em.

You still do? The normal process is to be a clueless libertarian in high school, or even through college, but to grow the hell up in your mid-20s, and discard this selfish worldview.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:09:41pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well stick me with a fork. But how much longer do you think is it going to be allowed?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:09:41pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:09:51pm
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Kryptik  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:10:39pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

The NRA is crying gun taking again. Shit was sad in the Clinton years and it’s even more pathetic in the Obama years knowing that this is what they do after every single gun related tragedy. Gotta keep the rubes scared and paying for Wayne LaPierre’s beach houses.

The sad part isn’t them doing it again, the sad part is why: it works.

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allegro  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:12:13pm

re: #73 No Country For Old Haters

Paul-Libertarians are against abortion. I used to know a Ron Paul supporter who started as pro-choice, but was talked into being a forced-birther by Ron Paul. All it takes is pretending that a fetus or blastocyst is a person with full human-rights. Once you fall for that, it’s pretty easy to fall on the anti-freedom side of this issue.

Only if you flat out ignore the most basic human rights of women.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:12:16pm

re: #80 No Country For Old Haters

You still do? The normal process is to be a clueless libertarian in high school, or even through college, but to grow the hell up in your mid-20s, and discard this selfish worldview.

This never grows old:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

- John Rogers

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:12:57pm

re: #84 Kryptik

The sad part isn’t them doing it again, the sad part is why: it works.

It is a matter of RWNJ doctrine that Obama is going to come after you guns, they will be hoarding and clinging on to them for dear life until another Republican is elected President.

All of which is just fine with the NRA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:13:12pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

I refer you to my post of yesterday, Wingnut Logic. In brief, black people should not have so many children, but if they do anything to stop having so many children, it’s genocide.

It’s a twofer, available to those who are unconcerned with consistency.

Note also that PP didn’t grab pregnant black women off the street and perform abortions on them without consent. No, those women went to PP to seek abortions. This essentially reduces those women to children not responsible for their own actions, and unable to make their own decisions.

And they wonder why most black people don’t vote for the GOP.

Also, it’s important to remember the forced sterilizations of women of color in the 20th century.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:13:59pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If Russia continues the downward slide, it may happen eventually. Right now it doesn’t seem possible, but then, many things happening now seemed impossible 2 years ago.

PS: that said, my word of advice: don’t rely on stereotypes. They may be true sometimes, but it pays to check.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:14:10pm

re: #85 allegro

Only if you flat out ignore the most basic human rights of women.

That’s so easy for some people.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:14:56pm

re: #85 allegro

Only if you flat out ignore the most basic human rights of women.

I guess you can make an argument that abortion is evil and still be a libertarian, but how do you believe in less govt regulation and be against two men getting married? Why would you even care?

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:16:15pm

re: #85 allegro

Only if you flat out ignore the most basic human rights of women.

Of course, but right-wingers are not interested in women’s rights.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:16:22pm

re: #60 RealityBasedSteve

The blacks themselves were responsible for it, since there were black slave traders in Africa. /// (Believe it or not, that it’s an argument I’ve actually seen put forward)

Oh, of course. Slavery wasn’t racist because the Africans were sold into slavery originally by other Africans. And there were black slaveowners. And there were white slaves*.

When someone tries to tell me slavery wasn’t racist for one of those reasons, I ask whether a black person could own a white person, and his children. They generally stop responding at that point.

*No, they weren’t. They were really indentured servants whose indentures would expire and whose children were not born slaves

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:16:45pm

re: #91 Iwouldprefernotto

I guess you can make an argument that abortion is evil and still be a libertarian

Only if you’re a ‘Libertarian for White Men’, which is often the case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:16:51pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:18:33pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All I know is that I have been employed longer during Obama’s term than I was during Bush’s term. After the Y2K frenzy everything went to utter shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:18:40pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy shit. Somebody must have slept through 2008 and 2009.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:19:07pm

re: #89 Nyet

If Russia continues the downward slide, it may happen eventually. Right now it doesn’t seem possible, but then, many things happening now seemed impossible 2 years ago.

PS: that said, my word of advice: don’t rely on stereotypes. They may be true sometimes, but it pays to check.

I assumed that in light of the recent anti-gay legislation a spectacle like that would have to be banned. But we can be certain it won’t air as a TV special…

So I read that when the The Servants originally came out in the 1930’s and was highly successful in France, Samuel Goldwyn sent an agent to look into obtaining the movie rights.

The agent came back and told his boss that it was out of the question, the play was about a group of lesbians.

According to the anecdote, Goldwyn replied, “No problem! In the movie, we’ll make them Americans!”

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:19:49pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:19:54pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Holy shit. Somebody must have slept through 2008 and 2009.

Along with our recently departed third person troll.
:D

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:20:32pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Holy shit. Somebody must have slept through 2008 and 2009.

I seem to remember a presidential candidate suspending his campaign because the economy was in the toilet. Who was the President at the time?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:21:17pm

re: #101 Iwouldprefernotto

I seem to remember a presidential candidate suspending his campaign because the economy was in the toilet. Who was the President at the time?

That’s right, blame it on Bush!

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:21:23pm

Under no circumstances can something be a human person without a cerebral cortex. Which forms fully only after the 20th week. Until that moment the argument for bodily autonomy is slam dunk. It’s not a person, period.

(After that it’s a separate topic of discussion.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:21:23pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:22:14pm

re: #101 Iwouldprefernotto

BTW, I LOVED Obama’s response to that - “I think a President has to be able to do more than one thing at a time.”

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Kryptik  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:23:03pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

Dr. Torres’s response here is something that continually needs to be hammered away: the continued un-personing, the removal of agency from the mother in order to place the fetus on a pedestal. Especially when said fetus is regarded as a ‘leech on society’ and even a ‘punishment’ for the woman for not being ‘moral’ soon as it ceases to be a fetus and becomes an actual living child.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:24:11pm

re: #103 Nyet

Under no circumstances can something be a human person without a cerebral cortex. Which forms fully only after the 20th week. Until that moment the argument for bodily autonomy is slam dunk. It’s not a person, period.

(After that it’s a separate topic of discussion.)

Yeah, but you’re talking about people who can’t conceive (haha) of a process of becoming a human. It has to be an event, a singular watershed moment in time. Uncertainty makes them nervous.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:24:24pm

re: #76 BlueSpotinAL

Dang it! Should have known Cledus was too good to be true. Thanks.

I shall add an edit to the original noting that, and add this to my list of “satire” sites.

Here’s the real story they used with hopes of fooling people who tried to verify the story by googling the first paragraph
abc13.com

I googled the shooter and casualty names.
First search result is another satire news site, National Report

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:24:56pm

Rand Paul can call himself a libertarian be be against abortion and SSM and I can call myself a vegetarian and eat steak.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:24:58pm

re: #106 Kryptik

Dr. Torres’s response here is something that continually needs to be hammered away: the continued un-personing, the removal of agency from the mother in order to place the fetus on a pedestal. Especially when said fetus is regarded as a ‘leech on society’ and even a ‘punishment’ for the woman for not being ‘moral’ soon as it ceases to be a fetus and becomes an actual living child.

This.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:25:12pm

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well, hence my word of advice against stereotypes. Note that the law doesn’t prohibit “gay propaganda” as such, only as long as children can see it.

The spectacle is 18+, so the law wouldn’t apply in any case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:25:14pm

heh

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:25:40pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

That’s so easy for some people.

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1. Fetuses are persons. 2. Abortion terminates fetuses. 3. Abortion terminates persons

And—pet peeve: There’s no such word as “persons”. The plural of “person” is “people”.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:25:58pm

re: #106 Kryptik

Dr. Torres’s response here is something that continually needs to be hammered away: the continued un-personing, the removal of agency from the mother in order to place the fetus on a pedestal. Especially when said fetus is regarded as a ‘leech on society’ and even a ‘punishment’ for the woman for not being ‘moral’ soon as it ceases to be a fetus and becomes an actual living child.

She hammers away on Twitter better than anyone! But yes, it needs to be hammered away at everywhere there are women.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:26:24pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:27:16pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When the discussion is about ‘personhood’, I’d allow for exceptions.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:27:23pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but you’re talking about people who can’t conceive (haha) of a process of becoming a human. It has to be an event, a singular watershed moment in time. Uncertainty makes them nervous.

That’s usually their argument. “So when does it become a human, hurr hurr?!!”. When do several grains of sand become a heap? At what second a person becomes an adult? Vagueness. Can’t deal with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:27:32pm

re: #106 Kryptik

Dr. Torres’s response here is something that continually needs to be hammered away: the continued un-personing, the removal of agency from the mother in order to place the fetus on a pedestal. Especially when said fetus is regarded as a ‘leech on society’ and even a ‘punishment’ for the woman for not being ‘moral’ soon as it ceases to be a fetus and becomes an actual living child.

You know, I also believe that young people should be called upon to take more responsibility for their actions, which is something that we cannot expect them to do unless they are informed of their choices and options, and how their own reproductive system functions.

Just teaching our teenagers to keep it in their trousers or face the consequences falls far short of that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:27:32pm

re: #115 Kragar

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I had some wingnut once say he’d save both. Trying to be Kirk with the Kobayashi Maru.

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Kryptik  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:27:50pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

We, as a society, seem to have the huge problem of not being able to consider two concepts at the same time, even when they’re related. Something like the spate of deaths under police custody have to be treated as either racism-related or police behavior-related, as if the two concepts were wholly mutually exclusive. Things like the Charleston shooting have to be treated as only gun related, mental health related, or racism related, the very idea that it could be related to all these issues at the same time is treated as an impossibility.

Our political culture has actively discouraged the idea of walking and chewing bubblegum at the same time, and it baffles me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:28:22pm

re: #111 Nyet

Well, hence my word of advice against stereotypes. Note that the law doesn’t prohibit “gay propaganda” as such, only as long as children can see it.

The spectacle is 18+, so the law wouldn’t apply in any case.

“Nice production you got here, shame if something unpleasant happened to it…”

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:28:43pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So, there are three people in the Trinity I heard…//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:29:16pm

re: #117 Nyet

That’s usually their argument. “So when does it become a human, hurr hurr?!!”. When do several grains of sand become a heap? At what second a person becomes an adult? Vagueness. Can’t deal with it.

And then they use the straw man HURR HURR SO UR SAYING U CAN CRUSH TEH SKULL OF A BABY ONE DAY BEFORE ITS BORNED!!!!!

Except, that is not how pregnancy is terminated in the 9th month.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:29:26pm

re: #73 No Country For Old Haters

Paul-Libertarians are against abortion. I used to know a Ron Paul supporter who started as pro-choice, but was talked into being a forced-birther by Ron Paul. All it takes is pretending that a fetus or blastocyst is a person with full human-rights. Once you fall for that, it’s pretty easy to fall on the anti-freedom side of this issue.

If a zygote is a person then I should be able to get life insurance for it. With only 30% of zygotes/conception making it to live birth, the insurance companies will be paying out their asses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:29:51pm

re: #115 Kragar

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Well, after Sandy Hook we already know that 20 grade schoolers don’t matter; 30 isn’t all that many more…
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:31:14pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You know, I also believe that young people should be called upon to take more responsibility for their actions, which is something that we cannot expect them to do unless they are informed of their choices and options, and how their own reproductive system functions.

Just teaching our teenagers to keep it in their trousers or face the consequences falls far short of that.

Whatever someone sees as ‘moral’ behavior is not even relevant when telling a girl what can happen and what she can do about it. There’s still room for a discussion of morality, but not necessarily as part of the health discussion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:32:15pm

re: #117 Nyet

That’s usually their argument. “So when does it become a human, hurr hurr?!!”. When do several grains of sand become a heap? At what second a person becomes an adult? Vagueness. Can’t deal with it.

Seriously. In a Creationism/Evolution discussion one tried to pin me down on when Homo Erectus became human, after I pointed to the cranial vault capacity that started out chimp size in the earliest fossils (“It’s just a monkey!”) and over time expand to the low end of Homo sapiens size in the latest fossils (“It’s just a human!”).

He claimed that this meant that there was some point in time when a human baby was born to nonhuman parents. Absolutely could not accept the idea of the species gradually becoming what we think of as human.

Mind you, species is a human concept anyway, like gender.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:32:37pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

And then they use the straw man HURR HURR SO UR SAYING U CAN CRUSH TEH SKULL OF A BABY ONE DAY BEFORE ITS BORNED!!!!!

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Except, that is not how pregnancy is terminated in the 9th month.

That one is such bullshit. The overwhelming majority of third trimester abortions are done for health reasons. Really, if RWNJs really wanted to prevent abortions- They’d support comprehensive sex education, support helping poor and unwed mothers out once the child is born, and they’d stop treating women who get abortions like murderers but the assholes won’t do that because they’re RWNJ assholes.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:32:48pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

I had some wingnut once say he’d save both. Trying to be Kirk with the Kobayashi Maru.

They would save both—-with their guns of course.

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jamesfirecat  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:34:09pm

re: #73 No Country For Old Haters

Paul-Libertarians are against abortion. I used to know a Ron Paul supporter who started as pro-choice, but was talked into being a forced-birther by Ron Paul. All it takes is pretending that a fetus or blastocyst is a person with full human-rights. Once you fall for that, it’s pretty easy to fall on the anti-freedom side of this issue.

It takes more than that, it takes believing that the woman doesn’t have full human rights, otherwise Violinist Argument says that the woman has the write to kill the “person” inside her in the name of keeping her organs completely under her control and not loaning their use out to anyone else without her express permission.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:34:13pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

Here’s the real story they used with hopes of fooling people who tried to verify the story by googling the first paragraph
abc13.com

I googled the shooter and casualty names.
First search result is another satire news site, National Report

It appears to be another strategy, basically a bunch of mirror sites to increase the chances of drawing in page views but without much more labor. I found conservativefrontline dot com and lettexasseceed dot com to be identical, and both be basically the national report garbage.
Might have to start making a list…

I originally saw it posted by a source which is usually much more careful.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:34:31pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

Mind you, species is a human concept anyway, like gender.

A pretty vague one too. Ring species, anyone?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:34:48pm

This is seriously major league level trolling

GENEVA (Reuters) - People like FIFA President Sepp Blatter deserve the Nobel prize, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview broadcast on Switzerland’s RTS television news on Monday.

“I think people like Mr Blatter or the heads of big international sporting federations, or the Olympic Games, deserve a special recognition. If there is anyone who deserves the Nobel prize, it’s those people,” he said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:34:51pm

re: #129 Iwouldprefernotto

They would save both—-with their guns of course.

Shoot the fire!

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:35:10pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

That one is such bullshit. The overwhelming majority of third trimester abortions are done for health reasons. Really, if RWNJs really wanted to prevent abortions- They’d support comprehensive sex education, support helping poor and unwed mothers out once the child is born, and they’d stop treating women who get abortions like murderers but the assholes won’t do that because they’re RWNJ assholes.

They obviously want to control women, as their kind of religious person has done for much of history. The religious have fortunately been marginalized to the point where they don’t have the power they once did, and they see that as an attack on their religious freedom to oppress women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:35:20pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

Whatever someone sees as ‘moral’ behavior is not even relevant when telling a girl what can happen and what she can do about it. There’s still room for a discussion of morality, but not necessarily as part of the health discussion.

we all know that teenagers have to be taught that sex is filthy and animalistic, and be made terrified of sex and its vile consequences so they will be inspired to save it for the person they marry.

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jamesfirecat  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:35:33pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

This is seriously major league level trolling

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Never have so few grifted so much from so many.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:36:18pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

we all know that teenagers have to be taught that sex is filthy and animalistic, and be made terrified of sex and its vile consequences so they will be inspired to save it for the person they marry.

It is if you’re doing it right…

It’s very hot in NYC and I’m bored at work.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:36:19pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

The US should move more quickly with its corruption investigation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:36:41pm

re: #132 Nyet

A pretty vague one too. Ring species, anyone?

You mean like the Gods, Demigods, Norns, and Wälkure?

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:37:08pm

re: #117 Nyet

That’s usually their argument. “So when does it become a human, hurr hurr?!!”. When do several grains of sand become a heap? At what second a person becomes an adult? Vagueness. Can’t deal with it.

The one my dad used to use was “how many hairs make a beard?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:37:34pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

we all know that teenagers have to be taught that sex is filthy and animalistic, and be made terrified of sex and its vile consequences so they will be inspired to save it for the person they marry.

Only if you’re doing it right….

ETA: Nuts.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:37:43pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

You don’t wind up a creationist in 2015 by being capable of evaluating evidence, or even thinking remotely rationally, so you shouldn’t ever expect a creationist to be reasonable. I wouldn’t even bother trying to help one out of their brainwashing, unless they’re young enough that there’s hope that the creationism is a childish belief they’ll grow out of.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:38:23pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

You mean like the Gods, Demigods, Norns, and Wälkure?

Depends. Did they interbreed? /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:39:10pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:39:50pm

good freaking grief:

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:42:53pm

re: #117 Nyet

That’s usually their argument. “So when does it become a human, hurr hurr?!!”. When do several grains of sand become a heap? At what second a person becomes an adult? Vagueness. Can’t deal with it.

This never gets old

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allegro  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:42:55pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Shoot the fire!

During Hurricane Ike some numbnuts was outside my hotel room door shooting at the hurricane so shooting at fire isn’t much of a stretch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:43:36pm

re: #144 Nyet

Depends. Did they interbreed? /

“…Hagen gives Siegfried a magic potion that makes him forget all about Brünnhilde and fall in love with Gutrune Gibich…who by the way is the only woman that Siegfried has ever come across who hasn’t been his aunt. …I’m not making this up, you know!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:44:35pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief:

Men with Confederate flags crash black kid’s birthday party, threaten to ‘kill y’all n****rs’

I like the way they have both CSA and US flags on some of the vehicles…as if there were no conflict between the two concepts.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:46:20pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Oh, in that case then, it was a mob that should be pepper sprayed.

///

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:47:55pm

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I like the way they have both CSA and US flags on some of the vehicles…as if there were no conflict between the two concepts.

At the end of the War Between The States each side came together to drink beer and toast the forming of two separate nations that continue to exist today.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:49:52pm

In other news, this little guy was hammering on the side of my house all afternoon. The picture isn’t great because I had to take it shooting through two panes of dirty window glass. A few minutes later, he showed up at my kitchen door, looking in, but I couldn’t grab my camera fast enough.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:51:19pm

Hannity was bitching about Republicans and swooning over Trump and Cruz.

Who the fuck is Senator Cruz, that Mitch McConnell has to make promises to him?? He’s a junior Senator FFS! Cruz is such an ego maniac. Hey Ted, it’s not about you!

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:55:46pm

re: #154 Jenner7

Hannity was bitching about Republicans and swooning over Trump and Cruz.

Who the fuck is Senator Cruz, that Mitch McConnell has to make promises to him?? He’s a junior Senator FFS! Cruz is such an ego maniac. Hey Ted, it’s not about you!

I think that the few somewhat sane Republicans remaining now see the country as divided between civilized people and wingnuts, and the civilized people are not going to vote Republican with the party taken over by wingnuts, so the kind of people that might vote for them are the kind of people who love Cruz.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:55:57pm

Herpty derp:

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:56:05pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

When someone tries to tell me slavery wasn’t racist for one of those reasons, I ask whether a black person could own a white person, and his children. They generally stop responding at that point.

In the Cornerstone Speech, and related documents, a lot of emphasis is on how Confederate slavery was different than every other kind before - because there was no intra-racial slavery, there were no white slaves. That was to permit both equality among all whites, rich or poor, and at the same time benefit Africans, who need to be taken care of by their betters and who are, by nature, destined for slavery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:56:41pm

re: #156 Lidane

Herpty derp:

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Just add a wee fetus in the corner of the bill and it will be just fine…

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:57:11pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other news, this little guy was hammering on the side of my house all afternoon. The picture isn’t great because I had to take it shooting through two panes of dirty window glass. A few minutes later, he showed up at my kitchen door, looking in, but I couldn’t grab my camera fast enough.

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Hairy woodpecker, I think.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:57:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:57:39pm

re: #159 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Hair woodpecker, I think.

Juvenile Downy Woodpecker.

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Khal Wimpo  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:58:01pm

re: #154 Jenner7

Hannity was bitching about Republicans and swooning over Trump and Cruz.

Who the fuck is Senator Cruz, that Mitch McConnell has to make promises to him?? He’s a junior Senator FFS! Cruz is such an ego maniac. Hey Ted, it’s not about you!

I think we’ll be seeing that Sen. Cruz has a really, really hard time getting any legislation that is important to his political donors through the Senate. Moreover, when he calls on his old reliable donors, they’ll be a bit more … evasive than usual.

Probably because earlier in the day, they got a call from a legislative aide to McConnell, telling him “You know, your continued donations to Sen. Cruz really imperil the possibility of moving your agenda through Congress. See, we need unity amongst republicans to pass things these days, and Ted, well … Ted’s just not a team player. He’s got his own team.

Now it’s time to make a choice Texas Bubba. Do you want to be on Team Ted, or do you want to NOT see a 500% tax increase this year because that loophole you’ve always had is on the agenda for renewal, and shucks, we just can’t get it passed with Ted being an ass and all.

Really? Well, thank you for your support Texas Bubba. Now if you really want to cement the deal, next election cycle, when there’s a guy running against Ted - and we’ll tell you who that is going to be - you pull out that checkbook and write a big one to him, mmmKAY?”

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 12:58:46pm

Meanwhile in neo-fascist Russia:

Russia Bars Protest Leader Navalny’s Party From Poll

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:01:08pm

The opposition tried to play by the absurd rules. They did everything by the book. They were still barred. So who really wants a revolution, the opposition or the govt?

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Khal Wimpo  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:01:19pm

Basically, McConnell is a vengeful old fucker, and he’s going to put Ted Cruz’ nuts in a vice and slowly twist them off. Without money, Ted’s campaign withers and dies. And then, next time he runs for Senate, the donations for that dry up too.

The GOP stops arranging for friendly crowds to greet him on campaign stops, and instead starts arranging for hecklers to jeer him at every turn. His wife’s 501(c)3 nonprofits start getting audited and Ted’s worthless cousins get their cushy gigs redlined.

Depends on how much of an example McConnell wants to make of Ted, I guess. If it’s really scorched-earth, then Ted might just find that all those back-up careers as a lobbyist are drying up too, seeing as how it’s hard to lobby people who despise you.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:03:06pm

re: #162 Khal Wimpo

I hope you’re right, but I fear that it’s panderers like Cruz who represent the debased Republican base.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:04:23pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, of course. Slavery wasn’t racist because the Africans were sold into slavery originally by other Africans. And there were black slaveowners. And there were white slaves*.

When someone tries to tell me slavery wasn’t racist for one of those reasons, I ask whether a black person could own a white person, and his children. They generally stop responding at that point.

*No, they weren’t. They were really indentured servants whose indentures would expire and whose children were not born slaves

Actually there were white Irish, English and Scottish POW slaves in the Caribbean…mostly on Barbados in the sugarcane plantations…and it was really fucking bad.

Ireland lost 40% of her population in 10 years towards the end of the 17th Century and much of it was taken in chains to Barbados, including cloistered nuns and kidnapped children taken from marketplaces. African and Irish descended slaves were not freed until 1834. There is some documentation that Irish women and girls as young as 12 were forcibly bred with African slaves, in addition to female African slaves who were raped by their English owners. Resulting female children were often sold to brothels who were said to favor an intermediate skin tone in their sex workers.

Folks love to talk about William Wilberforce and the English anti-slavery campaign…but England has a lot to fucking answer for.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:05:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:06:32pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:07:34pm

re: #167 Aunty Entity Dragon

Sure, but we’re talking about slavery in the USA.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:08:46pm

That sound you hear is Reince reaching for more booze and Rolaids:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:09:03pm

re: #156 Lidane

Herpty derp:

David Barton says adding a woman to the $10 bill is an attempt to ‘denigrate’ the Treasury Dept & our economic system

because if we put a woman on a $10 bill it will only be worth $7.70

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:10:57pm

re: #163 Nyet

Meanwhile in neo-fascist Russia:

Russia Bars Protest Leader Navalny’s Party From Poll

Just have them declared legally gay and forbid them from campaigning anywhere a minor might see them…

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:12:18pm

Satanic statue unveiled in Detroit

Hail Stan!

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:12:37pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:12:48pm
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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:13:21pm

It’s kind of funny how Rand Paul and Ted Cruz both think their fast track to the nomination involves rat-fucking Mitch McConnell as publicly as possible.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:14:12pm

Lots of Satanists (the Laveyan ones) are in reality atheists.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:14:56pm

re: #174 Nyet

Satanic statue unveiled in Detroit

Hail Stan!

It’s a fetching statue.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:15:24pm

re: #178 Nyet

Lots of Satanists (the Laveyan ones) are in reality atheists.

Which is odd, as Satanism is a form of Xianity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:15:32pm

re: #156 Lidane

Herpty derp:

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I suspect Barton suffers from the common misconception that the way things were when he was growing up is the way they always had been and the way they were meant to be. Obviously, before the people who are on our bills NOW were there, there were other faces.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:15:51pm
183
Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:15:58pm

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

because if we put a woman on a $10 bill it will only be worth $7.70

I’m not happy with them choosing the $10 bill for this. Alexander Hamilton getting 86ed over Andrew “Trail of Tears” Jackass.

Get rid of AJ from the $20. Put a woman in his place. If they insist on doing it to the $10, then move Hamilton to the $20.

At the very least still want to be able to drop Hamiltons like Aaron Burr when I go out for the evening.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:16:05pm

re: #176 De Kolta Chair

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if Abe had been properly armed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:16:27pm

re: #176 De Kolta Chair

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:16:34pm

re: #180 darthstar

Which is odd, as Satanism is a form of Xianity.

It isn’t.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:19:00pm

What right-wing racism?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:19:21pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Sure, but we’re talking about slavery in the USA.

The sugar and rum trade was still part of American commerce. The only reason I can see that hereditary white slavery for Irish Catholics never got a foot hold in America is that it was simply too easy for a white slave to vanish and go to another colony where he or she would not be known. Indeed, white indentured servants did it all the time, and numerous newspaper and broadside prints still exist of wanted ads for indentured runaways (who in some ways had it worse then chattel slaves, since the “master” had little reason to actually keep them alive. Slaves were a long term investment. Servants…well, who cares? Lots of horrifying forensic evidence coming out of colonial Jamestown on malnutritian, beatings and murder of indentured youths.)

In any event, the (white)descendents of Irish slaves* still living on Barbados suffer from severe inbreeding, mental illness and poverty and are largely excluded from the rest of the island society.

*Almost all of the people on Barbados have some degree of Irish ancestry at this point.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:19:42pm

re: #186 Nyet

It isn’t.

Satan is a Xian concept.

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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:20:24pm

re: #176 De Kolta Chair

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How about: Abe, by the 21st Century the Republicans and Democrats will have almost completely flipped positions on all issues. Republicans will be the anti-federal government, “states-rights”, rural party that’s filled with southern racists and their cohorts elsewhere waving the Confederate Virginia Battle Flag.

I’m sure he would shit a twinky over that revelation.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:21:32pm

re: #187 darthstar

What right-wing racism?

[Embedded content]

Good God…

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:22:30pm

re: #189 darthstar

Satan is a Xian concept.

It’s a Jewish concept first of all. That doesn’t make Laveyan Satanists Jews.

Moreover, no matter in which religion the concept originated, it’s still a non sequitur to claim that this makes Satanism a form of that religion. Just doesn’t follow.

WHY DO SATANISTS WORSHIP THE DEVIL?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

churchofsatan.com

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Great White Snark  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:23:07pm

There is no better indicator in recent years as to the rabble the GOP has become than this Trump/Paulian/Bush clown car mess.

194
darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:23:10pm

re: #192 Nyet

I stand corrected.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:23:55pm

re: #189 darthstar

Satan is a Xian concept.

Satanism, as it is practiced, though is more of a nature religion than any sort of Judeo-Christian concept. The Devil appears under many names in Xtianity: Lucifer, Beelzebub, Moloch, etc., Satan is only one of his identities.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:25:57pm

re: #171 Lidane

That sound you hear is Reince reaching for more booze and Rolaids:

[Embedded content]

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:26:16pm

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Satanism, as it is practiced, though is more of a nature religion than any sort of Judeo-Christian concept. The Devil appears under many names in Xtianity: Lucifer, Beelzebub, Moloch, etc., Satan is only one of his identities.

I’m a big fan of Mephistopheles. Mephistophelism is underappreciated.

198
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:26:21pm

re: #188 Aunty Entity Dragon

The sugar and rum trade was still part of American commerce. The only reason I can see that heriditary white slavery for Irish Catholics never got a foot hold in America is that it was simply too easy for a white slave to vanish and go to another colony where he or she would not be known. Indeed, white indentured servants did it all the time, and numerous newspaper and broadside prints still exist of wanted ads for indentured runaways (who in some ways had it worse then chattel slaves, since the “master” had little reason to actually keep them alive. Slaves were a long term investment. Servants…well, who cares? Lots of horrifying forensic evidence coming out of colonial Jamestown on malnutritian, beatings and murder of indentured youths.)

In any event, the (white)descendents of Irish slaves* still living on Barbados suffer from severe inbreeding, mental illness and poverty and are largely excluded from the rest of the island society.

*Almost all of the people on Barbados have some degree of Irish ancestry at this point.

All of which argues that slavery as practiced in the US was almost uniquely racist.

The decision was made in the 17th Century in the colonies that became the US that heritable enslavement was uniquely for blacks. This is probably one reason why it took hold so firmly and dug in so deeply - the enslaved were much easier to segregate from the rest of the population, and their distant origin allowed the slavemasters to convince themselves of the lack of a common humanity.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:26:59pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmmm…
I was comparing LaGuardia to a “Third World” airport in the 80’s

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:27:17pm

re: #187 darthstar

What right-wing racism?

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Heritage and Hate!

It’s a win win!

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team_fukit  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:27:23pm

re: #167 Aunty Entity Dragon

should also note that at that time Irish and Scottish people weren’t considered “white”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:27:59pm
203
#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:28:09pm

re: #197 darthstar

I’m a big fan of Mephistopheles. Mephistophelism is underappreciated.

Mephistopheles is not your name
But I know what you’re up to just the same

204
team_fukit  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:29:31pm

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

there is also a strong libertarian streak in Satanism

205
BlueGrl21  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:29:34pm

My best friend is Hungarian and was raised under the Soviets. There’s a paranoia against government intrusion of any kind built in that he’s acquired through legitimate means. He is the only Libertarian I will somewhat excuse, though we still disagree mightily over many things.

I’ve got a true anti-Communist on my hands. It’s exhausting.

Now, Rand Paul and his ilk. There’s no excuse for them. Because my best friend would vote for Bill the Cat if Bill was committed to pro-choice and legalizing pretty much everything.

Amateurs. Poseurs.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:33:40pm

…

207
Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:34:56pm

re: #24 BlueSpotinAL

[Embedded content]

Edited to add: SATIRE WEB SITE

BREAKING: Operation Jade Helm Claims First Civilian Casualty

So two patriots decide to help law enforcement…then

The name Cledus is real! The whole story is at this website (which is serious about Jade Helm, and has “questions”):

Link

Government martyrdom deer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:35:32pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

Government martyrdom deer.

Took one for the team, it did…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:41:43pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

All of which argues that slavery as practiced in the US was almost uniquely racist.

The decision was made in the 17th Century in the colonies that became the US that heritable enslavement was uniquely for blacks. This is probably one reason why it took hold so firmly and dug in so deeply - the enslaved were much easier to segregate from the rest of the population, and their distant origin allowed the slavemasters to convince themselves of the lack of a common humanity.

I don;t have any contention there…at least as slavery developed over time.

My point was that white (Note: white as we understand the term today. A 17th Century English aristocrat would not have considered Irish Catholics anything at all like a white Englishman) slavery did exist in the New World and it was every bit as harsh and punitive in practice(maybe more so, since it was specifically religious in nature) as was that experienced by African slaves. Moreover, it was likely not introduced into the American colonies simply because of pragmatism, and that racist justifications for all-black slavery were somewhat after the fact. (The English ran out of Irish to grab next door…so who is next in line to kidnap? Once you establish who you are going to grab…you have to invent a reason why they deserve to be grabbed.)

In fact, racial animosities towards black slaves had still not settled into stone completely by the time of the Revolution. Black slaves and freedmen served in units alongside white soldiers openly, and slaves still carried weapons and were subject to militia duty against Cherokee Indians in some southern colonies. The increasing racial animus against Africans and African Americans and associated justification for slavery proceeded throughout the 19th and 20th Centuries.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:43:09pm

re: #192 Nyet

It’s a Jewish concept first of all. That doesn’t make Laveyan Satanists Jews.

Well…originally Satan was just a trickster god, more like Loki, but when the Jews “returned” from the so-called Babylonian Captivity (those few who actually were there), they had been heavily influenced by Persian dualism and raised Satan to the status of a coequal, evil god, like Ahriman. Christianity took this up, but Islam seems to have demoted “Shaitan” again to his original Semitic role. That’s why calling America “The Great Satan” is insulting—but not for the reason American Christians think.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:43:34pm

re: #201 team_fukit

should also note that at that time Irish and Scottish people weren’t considered “white”

Irish in particular.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:48:23pm

re: #209 Aunty Entity Dragon

I don;t have any contention there…at least as slavery developed over time.

My point was that white (Note: white as we understand the term today. A 17th Century English aristocrat would not have considered Irish catholics anything at all like a white Englishman) slavery did exist in the New World and it was every bit as harsh and punitive in practice(maybe more so, since it was specifically religious in nature) as was that experienced by African slaves. Moreover, it was likely not introduced into the American colonies simply because of pragmatism, and that racist justifications for all-black slavery were somewhat after the fact. (The English ran out of Irish to grab next door…so who is next in line to kidnap? Once you establish who you are going to grab…you have to invent a reason why they deserve to be grabbed.)

In fact, racial animosities towards black slaves had still not settled into stone completely by the time of the Revolution. Black slaves and freedmen served in units alongside white soldiers openly, and slaves still carried weapons and were subject to militia duty against Cherokee Indians in some southern colonies. The increasing racial animus against Africans and African Americans and associated justification for slavery proceeded throughout the 19th and 20th Centuries.

I wonder how much of the hardening of racial animus came about because of the cognitive dissonance of founding a new nation, ostensibly on equality, while enslaving one segment of the population. When we were just colonies, it wasn’t really our own responsibility - England wrote the laws, and England encouraged and allowed slavery.

Once you are self-governing, especially if you base that on the Natural Rights ideas from the Enlightenment, the responsibility can’t be fobbed off on someone else, so you have to come up with a reason why it’s okay to enslave your fellow humans in that way.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:51:49pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other news, this little guy was hammering on the side of my house all afternoon. The picture isn’t great because I had to take it shooting through two panes of dirty window glass. A few minutes later, he showed up at my kitchen door, looking in, but I couldn’t grab my camera fast enough.

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They will eat birdseed if you put out a feeder.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:54:21pm

re: #178 Nyet

Lots of Satanists (the Laveyan ones) are in reality atheists.

LOL they are actually Ayn Randians.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:54:38pm

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

They will eat birdseed if you put out a feeder.

They’ll also eat suet and seed cakes. Dad has one out with the other birdfeeders, and the local woodpecker likes it.

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 1:55:30pm

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

LOL they are actually Ayn Randians.

The analogy is there. They have cooler rituals tho.

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2015 • 2:06:38pm
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Nyet  Jul 27, 2015 • 2:10:22pm

re: #217 gocart mozart

Or Sparta.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 27, 2015 • 2:10:50pm
Thanks Obama!
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 2:12:23pm

re: #219 De Kolta Chair

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“Known Space”?

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Amory Blaine  Jul 27, 2015 • 4:21:55pm

re: #28 Nyet

:)


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