White House Confirms: Will Veto Any Budget Bill That Defunds Planned Parenthood

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Republicans are making noises that they’re going to shut down the government again, this time over defunding Planned Parenthood (something they’ve been trying to do for many years). But today White House press secretary Josh Earnest made it very clear that the President will veto any budget bill containing a rider that defunds the women’s health organization.

“What we have indicated in the past continues to be true today, that we have routinely opposed the inclusion of ideologically-driven riders in the budget process,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters Friday. “And certainly a rider that would on a wholesale basis defund Planned Parenthood, which is the proposal of some Republicans in the House, is certainly something that would draw a presidential veto.”

Last time Republicans shut down the government for one of their right wing crusades, it was a complete political disaster for them. Will they be crazy enough to do it again, over something like this — based on a bunch of deceptively edited “sting” videos produced by religious fanatics that show no genuine wrongdoing?

Stay tuned for the next thrilling chapter in “GOP Politics for Idiots.”

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199 comments

Iwouldprefernotto Jul 31, 2015 • 12:52:21pm

But Obama always caves…

iossarian Jul 31, 2015 • 12:52:38pm

What War On Women? (TM)

darthstar Jul 31, 2015 • 12:54:51pm

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

But Obama always caves…

Obama hasn’t had any fucks to give about the feelings of the GOP since he was inaugurated for his second term. If they want to grandstand over a 500 million dollar grant, it’s their funeral.

wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 12:57:04pm

Thanks for putting the push-back up front. Makes the US seem more modern.

Mattand Jul 31, 2015 • 12:58:37pm

Last time Republicans shut down the government for one of their right wing crusades, it was a complete political disaster for them. Will they be crazy enough to do it again, over something like this — based on a bunch of deceptively edited “sting” videos produced by religious fanatics that show no genuine wrongdoing?

This is a trick question, right?

lawhawk Jul 31, 2015 • 12:58:40pm

The GOP is going from figurative war on women™ to literal war on women™.

Check that. They’re just intensifying the war on women™, now with more guns and ammo and reckless disregard for US law, the Supreme Court, and federalism. That’s thanks to the theocrat Mike Huckabee who’s attempting to raise his profile in a field loaded with misogynists.

Huckabee wants to actually use the FBI and US military to shut down abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood. There’s no other way to explain his statement on the matter. This isn’t some hypothetical or random musing. He’s actually saying this is what he’d do if President.

t.co

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 1:00:37pm

#Huckabee , who panders to people worried Obama will use troops against US citizen, announces plan to use troops against US citizens. #GOP

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 31, 2015

Iwouldprefernotto Jul 31, 2015 • 1:00:40pm

re: #6 lawhawk

The GOP is going from figurative war on womenTM to literal war on womenTM.

Check that. They’re just intensifying the war on womenTM, now with more guns and ammo and reckless disregard for US law, the Supreme Court, and federalism. That’s thanks to the theocrat Mike Huckabee who’s attempting to raise his profile in a field loaded with misogynists.

Huckabee wants to actually use the FBI and US military to shut down abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood. There’s no other way to explain his statement on the matter. This isn’t some hypothetical or random musing. He’s actually saying this is what he’d do if President.

The good news is that Huck is never going to be president. I know this because god told me in a secret Twitter message.

piratedan Jul 31, 2015 • 1:01:24pm

if the GOP wants to die on that hill, I’ll be happy to lend them the shovels or rent the back hoes needed…..

FormerDirtDart Jul 31, 2015 • 1:02:47pm

re: #6 lawhawk

The GOP is going from figurative war on womenTM to literal war on womenTM.

Check that. They’re just intensifying the war on womenTM, now with more guns and ammo and reckless disregard for US law, the Supreme Court, and federalism. That’s thanks to the theocrat Mike Huckabee who’s attempting to raise his profile in a field loaded with misogynists.

Huckabee wants to actually use the FBI and US military to shut down abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood. There’s no other way to explain his statement on the matter. This isn’t some hypothetical or random musing. He’s actually saying this is what he’d do if President.

t.co

As I wrote down stairs, No, Huckabee is not really that ignorant.
But, his voting base most certainly is

Huck is just chumming the waters

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 1:03:20pm

re: #7 Kragar

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But, you see, Huckabee would be using them for GOOD™!

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 1:03:57pm

re: #3 darthstar

They’re threatening to shut down the government over something that costs that same as five F-35 fighters. If they want to raise a ruckus, they might start with the fact that we’re buying shitload of hundred million dollar aircraft that we don’t need.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:04:15pm

re: #6 lawhawk

I suppose the wingnuts would be fine with the military attacking Americans as long as it’s Planned Parenthood. Anything for their evil desire to control women.

Mike Lamb Jul 31, 2015 • 1:05:11pm

I’ve seen some people got a jump on it, but a lot more douchenozzles will have to dust off their “Democrats are shutting down the gov’t…” talking points…

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:06:48pm

re: #14 Mike Lamb

I’ve seen some people got a jump on it, but a lot more douchenozzles will have to dust off their “Democrats are shutting down the gov’t…” talking points…

It’s interesting how these motivated thinkers can manage to get things backwards every single time. It’s like they want to misunderstand everything.

Shiplord Kirel Jul 31, 2015 • 1:10:23pm

Huckabee could order federal troops to shut down abortion clinics. They would simply tell him to fuck off, no way in hell, you’re insane etc.

He could then use this “mutiny” by lib-indoctrinated troops to call for volunteers and informal militia to handle the task instead. He could call it the national salvation army or something. The indoctrination provided by the Jade Helm conspiracy theories would have helped lay the groundwork for this.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:11:23pm

The Republican right has drawn a line in the sand over PP and it has become the litmus test of fealty to their ideology.

And they will insist on painting it as life vs death, morality vs promiscuity, integrity vs. debauchery

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:12:03pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

Huckabee could order federal troops to shut down abortion clinics. They would simply tell him to fuck off, no way in hell, you’re insane etc.

He could then use this “mutiny” by lib-indoctrinated troops to call for volunteers and informal militia to handle the task instead. He could call it the national salvation army or something. The indoctrination provided by the Jade Helm conspiracy theories would have helped lay the groundwork for this.

I’d hope the national guard would put them down. They’d be a criminal group even with the backing of a wingnut President.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:12:37pm

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Republican right has drawn a line in the sand over PP and it has become the litmus test of fealty to their ideology.

And they will insist on painting it as life vs death, morality vs promiscuity, integrity vs. debauchery

Forced birth vs Freedom? Nope.

EPR-radar Jul 31, 2015 • 1:12:57pm

re: #15 No Country For Old Haters

It’s interesting how these motivated thinkers can manage to get things backwards every single time. It’s like they want to misunderstand everything.

Perhaps I shouldn’t mock them too severely. After all, getting things bass-ackwards is their one and only talent.

On second thought, the RWNJs want to bring the entire country down to their level.

This is a war that must be won by the sane people.

JadeHelmCurious Jul 31, 2015 • 1:13:33pm

The Obama administration has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

Khal Wimpo Jul 31, 2015 • 1:13:51pm

Normally, I don’t link to DailyKos, since I find that the site tends to attract a great deal of “me-too” and not all that much in the way of original thought & debate. But there’s a good piece here: dailykos.com

I post this here, if for no other reason, than for this quote:

It’s weird for those of us with two brain cells to rub together, that this is even a thing. Because first of all, obviously Planned Parenthood doesn’t sell BABY PARTS. Jesus fucking christ, get a hold of yourselves. Baby parts!

Video

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:14:57pm

re: #22 Khal Wimpo

Normally, I don’t link to DailyKos, since I find that the site tends to attract a great deal of “me-too” and not all that much in the way of original thought & debate. But there’s a good piece here: dailykos.com

I post this here, if for no other reason, than for this quote:

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Conservatives always act like they have the minds of children, but that really stands out with this “baby-parts” derp.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:16:50pm

re: #23 No Country For Old Haters

Conservatives always act like they have the minds of children, but that really stands out with this “baby-parts” derp.

Because they are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood.

Khal Wimpo Jul 31, 2015 • 1:18:23pm

re: #23 No Country For Old Haters

Conservatives always act like they have the minds of children, but that really stands out with this “baby-parts” derp.

It is a perfect vehicle for them: it “sounds bad” and that’s all that matters. A closer look reveals that this is, as Charles said here, a nothingburger.

But was we well know & remember, the GOP “doesn’t do nuance.” It’s all about gut instinct, kneejerk, shoot first & yee haaa! Perfect for a voter base of people for whom a 30-second negative TV ad is about the breadth & depth of their ability to focus & cogitate.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:18:29pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood.

That’s pretty standard for fanatical Christians. It would have been cooler if no mainstream political party had embraced this dangerous extremism. These people should be in mental hospitals, not politics.

Shiplord Kirel Jul 31, 2015 • 1:20:11pm

Fear of the law is the only thing that keeps the anti-choice loons from burning down every abortion clinic in the country and murdering as many staff members as they can get their Christian, pro-life hands on.
Given the typical RWNJ’s ignorance of constitutional process, a green light from the president himself could easily lead to the American equivalent of Kristallnacht. I am not exaggerating or engaging in Godwinesque hyperbole. For one thing, such an officially sanctioned uprising would almost certainly result in more murders than occurred in the Kristallnacht riots (96 confirmed, possibly several hundred).

wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 1:20:30pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood.

Specifically, they don’t want a women to be able to choose whether she wants to be a mother, in addition to whatever else she is.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 31, 2015 • 1:20:43pm

Oh please GOP, shut it down again. That would be a fail of massive proportions.

Khal Wimpo Jul 31, 2015 • 1:20:56pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood.

Dunno if this is it. I think it’s more that it has something to do with sex. Anything to do with sex. And they’ve deeply internalized the fundie Xtian shame-and-blame worldview. Because sex is evil! And people who has sex is committing evil! And they should be punished for it - with babies. Who we love.

Until they are born.

scottslemmons Jul 31, 2015 • 1:21:00pm

It’s always projection with the wingnuts. Always. If they say they’re afraid of something, you can bet they want to do it to someone else. If they say they hate some particular crime, it’s a stone guarantee they’re committing it themselves.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:21:28pm

re: #26 No Country For Old Haters

That’s pretty standard for fanatical Christians. It would have been cooler if no mainstream political party had embraced this dangerous extremism. These people should be in mental hospitals, not politics.

It is not that the GOP has embraced them, it is that they have the GOP in a death grip.

ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 1:22:43pm

Heh. Alex Wagner seems to be taking the end of her show with a great attitude. She is more or less having a nice casual show that is more or less and end-it-on-a-fun party. And she is serving a nice Roast GOP with a side of FOX News Salad.

I expect her to say fuck it all in a nice way as the ending.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:22:50pm

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is not that the GOP has embraced them, it is that they have the GOP in a death grip.

That never would have happened if the GOP didn’t embrace them. They’d still be mostly-harmless fringe crazies today if not for Reagan’s pandering to these nuts.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:22:51pm

re: #30 Khal Wimpo

Dunno if this is it. I think it’s more that it has something to do with sex. Anything to do with sex. And they’ve deeply internalized the fundie Xtian shame-and-blame worldview. Because sex is evil! And people who has sex is committing evil! And they should be punished for it - with babies. Who we love.

Until they are born.

Slut-shaming and punishing promiscuity is only part of the equation. they are even against married women using contraception.

BlueSpotinAL Jul 31, 2015 • 1:23:23pm

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Republican right has drawn a line in the sand over PP and it has become the litmus test of fealty to their ideology.

And they will insist on painting it as life vs death, morality vs promiscuity, integrity vs. debauchery

Every GOP candidate should be asked whether they think Planned Parenthood should be defunded. What will the “moderates” say? Will they waffle?

wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 1:23:31pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Fear of the law is the only thing that keeps the anti-choice loons from burning down every abortion clinic in the country and murdering as many staff members as they can get their Christian, pro-life hands on.
Given the typical RWNJ’s ignorance of constitutional process, a green light from the president himself could easily lead to the American equivalent of Kristallnacht. I am not exaggerating or engaging in Godwinesque hyperbole. For one thing, such an officially sanctioned uprising would almost certainly result in more murders than occurred in the Kristallnacht riots (96 confirmed, possibly several hundred).

When they transition from feeling good about killing the doctors to feeling OK about killing the pregnant women, this could happen.

JadeHelmCurious Jul 31, 2015 • 1:24:56pm

An unborn baby, and everything it stands for, it to be coveted, worshiped, enshrined in the id of the cult.

The woman who carries the fetus, she’s an incubator.

I find it ironic a lot of prolife cultists are also ammosexuals: actual living beings are not worth as much.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:24:56pm

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Slut-shaming and punishing promiscuity is only part of the equation. they are even against married women using contraception.

Because it’s against their superstitions, and they think their superstitions apply to other people.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 1:25:47pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

When they transition from feeling good about killing the doctors to feeling OK about killing the pregnant women, this could happen.

It’s the one thing they avoid saying, but if they truly believe that abortion = murder, then they must view women who get abortions as equivalent to people who hire hit men.

But they can’t SAY that.

Openly.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 31, 2015 • 1:27:29pm

A government shutdown would pretty much guarantee no Republican would take the White House in 2016. I think the day of reckoning for RWNJs is coming very soon.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 1:27:50pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

When they transition from feeling good about killing the doctors to feeling OK about killing the pregnant women, this could happen.

Their reputation for revoking the humanity of others proceeds them.

FormerDirtDart Jul 31, 2015 • 1:28:28pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Fear of the law is the only thing that keeps the anti-choice loons from burning down every abortion clinic in the country and murdering as many staff members as they can get their Christian, pro-life hands on.
Given the typical RWNJ’s ignorance of constitutional process, a green light from the president himself could easily lead to the American equivalent of Kristallnacht. I am not exaggerating or engaging in Godwinesque hyperbole. For one thing, such an officially sanctioned uprising would almost certainly result in more murders than occurred in the Kristallnacht riots (96 confirmed, possibly several hundred).

Speaking of fear of the law:
Angel Dillard to Stand Trial for Threatening Abortion Provider

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit’s decision overturns a lower court ruling that held Dillard’s 2011 letter to Dr. Mila Means saying someone might place a bomb under her car was constitutionally protected free speech.

The ruling comes in the Department of Justice’s civil lawsuit against Dillard for violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act, the federal law that prohibits threatening or otherwise interfering with access to abortion clinics or providers.

Dillard also argued that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act protected her from any punishment

ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 1:28:49pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

As I wrote down stairs, No, Huckabee is not really that ignorant.
But, his voting base most certainly is

Huck is just chumming the waters

It’s pretty hard to chum for bottom feeders.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 1:28:58pm

re: #39 No Country For Old Haters

Because it’s against their superstitions, and they think their superstitions apply to other people.

You know, I’m not even sure about that. Look at some of the prominent Conservative women, Ann Coulter, for example - unmarried, ever. In her 50s, and almost certainly has been sexually active. No children. Probably used contraception.

I really think it’s about morals for poor people. Recreational sex without the consequences of pregnancy is reserved to the well-to-do, because they are obviously deserving.

Poor women? They should keep their legs shut.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:30:13pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

I really think it’s about morals for poor people. Recreational sex without the consequences of pregnancy is reserved to the well-to-do, because they are obviously deserving.

and can afford to pay for their contraception privately out of pocket

EPR-radar Jul 31, 2015 • 1:31:47pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Fear of the law is the only thing that keeps the anti-choice loons from burning down every abortion clinic in the country and murdering as many staff members as they can get their Christian, pro-life hands on.
Given the typical RWNJ’s ignorance of constitutional process, a green light from the president himself could easily lead to the American equivalent of Kristallnacht. I am not exaggerating or engaging in Godwinesque hyperbole. For one thing, such an officially sanctioned uprising would almost certainly result in more murders than occurred in the Kristallnacht riots (96 confirmed, possibly several hundred).

Reason # 12,739 why a GOP victory in the 2016 presidential race would be a disaster. Likely incitement of pogroms from the Oval Office.

scottslemmons Jul 31, 2015 • 1:32:05pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

Dillard also argued that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act protected her from any punishment

I keep waiting for some enterprising nutcase to argue that the Second Amendment legalizes any crimes committed with a gun…

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 1:33:23pm

re: #48 scottslemmons

I keep waiting for some enterprising nutcase to argue that the Second Amendment legalizes any crimes committed with a gun…

They would love to add a “stand your Constitutional ground” clause to the Second Amendment: you should be free to use it if you feel that any of your other rights are threatened.

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 31, 2015 • 1:33:26pm

re: #23 No Country For Old Haters

Children are far more intelligent and non-judgmental than them.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 1:33:43pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of fear of the law:
Angel Dillard to Stand Trial for Threatening Abortion Provider

Dillard also argued that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act protected her from any punishment

It looks as though they’re working to reduce the Establishment Clause to the kinds of anything-goes interpretations that apply to the Second Amendment.

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 31, 2015 • 1:34:39pm

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Unless you’re a pregnant woman, or ethnic/religious minority.

Ian G. Jul 31, 2015 • 1:35:25pm

Once again, food for our president. Good lord, I’m really going to miss the out-of-fucks-to-give president when he leaves the oval office.

Not that I’m really wishing harm on anyone, but given that we all have to meet our maker at some point, can Scalia have a heart attack before January of 2017, please?

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 1:36:52pm

Pro-lifers think the way to prevent abortions is to ban all abortions and hold all women accountable to a puritanical code that even they fail to successfully follow.

Pro-choicers think the way to prevent abortions is for women to have more options and access to birth control and are taught to make the best choices for themselves.

Which do you think actually reduces the number of abortions?

ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 1:36:54pm

re: #38 JadeHelmCurious

An unborn baby, and everything it stands for, it to be coveted, worshiped, enshrined in the id of the cult.

The woman who carries the fetus, she’s an incubator.

I find it ironic a lot of prolife cultists are also ammosexuals: actual living beings are not worth as much.

You know…you may really be on to something.

Maybe they think of every potential birth to be the second coming of Jesus. And any abortion could be the one that prevents it from occurring.

And when you think about it, how often do you hear fundies mention the Virgin Mary?

Ian G. Jul 31, 2015 • 1:39:57pm

re: #54 Kragar

Yes. You want me to respect your label as “pro life”? I will if you’re also anti-war, anti- death penalty, and want free, universal access to contraceptives. Otherwise, you’re just a misogynist fanatic.

Also, that should be “good”, not “food” above, but I’m having problems editing the post.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 1:41:49pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

And when you think about it, how often do you hear fundies mention the Virgin Mary?

They don’t want to be mistaken for those squishy Catholics. I mean, venerating a woman?

Drive By Commenter Jul 31, 2015 • 1:42:21pm

re: #7 Kragar

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But Huckabee would have no problem denying health care or insurance for pre-existing conditions of either mother or child.. Hell, Huckabee thinks sick women are burned down houses with no worth. He’s a devout suck ass to the cretins both below and above him. Walk off a bridge.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 1:44:13pm

re: #54 Kragar

Pro-lifers think the way to prevent abortions is to ban all abortions and hold all women accountable to a puritanical code that even they fail to successfully follow.

Pro-choicers think the way to prevent abortions is for women to have more options and access to birth control and are taught to make the best choices for themselves.

Which do you think actually reduces the number of abortions?

The other point is that pro-lifers have had 42 years, and have barely moved the needle of public opinion. They’ve made only incremental progress toward banning abortion, and they’ve done it at the expense of access to healthcare for poor women in many places.

Pro-choicers, OTOH, have prevented millions of abortions by supporting the things we know reduce abortions - affordable, easily available, effective contraception, and full, honest, non-judgemental sex ed.

JadeHelmCurious Jul 31, 2015 • 1:44:14pm

Assuming that life begins at the moment of conception, therefore abortion is death/murder - it makes for a ‘shut eyes scream la la la la’ intellectual foundation.

It’s the only possible argument that invalidates female control of procreation while rallying behind a fanatical good vs evil cause. One of the last good causes.

TedStriker Jul 31, 2015 • 1:44:43pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the one thing they avoid saying, but if they truly believe that abortion = murder, then they must view women who get abortions as equivalent to people who hire hit men.

But they can’t SAY that.

Openly.

In Scientology parlance, “fair game”.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:46:01pm

re: #60 JadeHelmCurious

Life began millions of years ago, and had nothing to do with us. We still can’t create life, it just keeps reproducing.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 1:46:38pm

re: #14 Mike Lamb

I’ve seen some people got a jump on it, but a lot more douchenozzles will have to dust off their “Democrats are shutting down the gov’t…” talking points…

HURR HURR IT TEH DEMOCRATZ FAULT FOR NOT GIVING IN TO ARE HOSTAGE TAKING DEMANDS!!!!!!

piratedan Jul 31, 2015 • 1:49:18pm

in a way, I have to be grateful to our sitting President, otherwise all of this shit that is being brought out into the open about race, sexism, bigotry would have continued to simmer under the surface and our media ignoring it wouldn’t have been a big deal, business as usual.

Now, this shit is on, we see the GOP in all of its ugly diversity, from corporate fat cats looking to milk the government teat, to theocratic government wannabees, to ammosexuals and the racists and bigots that infest the right. They don’t have any other platform than “fuck you” to those people or the holders of concepts they don’t approve of. There’s no thought here, they simply take their cue from either their own bully pulpit or the notion that somebody somewhere has a chance to live a life outside of their say so.

the media does they’re usual shitty job of falsely equivocating between our “choices” but I really think that people that loosely pay attention to politics are starting to notice just how crazy these people are. They can couch their histrionics in measured tones and properly coiffed hair, but the message itself is pure loathing of the other with no ideas on how to solve the apparently obvious problems that face us today.

Hilary is just as loathesome to them because she happens to be smarter than most of them and sporting the optional set of equipment than they do which they can’t fathom much less understand. While I do not wish harm to these folks (except for the grifters that keep them a seething volatile mass or rage) I pity them for when that moment of realization comes how completely and ethically and morally wrong that they are, that they don’t simply off themselves in some sort of firearm induced rapture.

Frenchy Jul 31, 2015 • 1:49:56pm

Was the last shutdown really a disaster for the Republicans? Certainly it played that way at the time, but they ended up gaining seats in the 2014 election. They paid no real price. If anything I’d think they’d be emboldened…foolishly, perhaps.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:51:16pm

re: #64 piratedan

but the message itself is pure loathing f the other with no ideas on how to solve the apparently obvious problems that face us today.

This message is very popular with their base. I hope the rest of us reject it.

JadeHelmCurious Jul 31, 2015 • 1:52:54pm

re: #62 No Country For Old Haters

Life began millions of years ago, and had nothing to do with us. We still can’t create life, it just keeps reproducing.

Then what do we need men for?

(ar ar ar LOL)

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:55:21pm

re: #67 JadeHelmCurious

Then what do we need men for?

(ar ar ar LOL)

Eventually you probably won’t. I don’t think there’s any reason we couldn’t induce parthenogenesis in people. Getting rid of the males is one way to reduce the human aggression problem, but I’d prefer it doesn’t come to that.

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 1:55:22pm

I will vote for whichever president makes it so every website has to ask permission to play a single goddamned sound.

— Peter S. Hall (@PeterSHall) July 31, 2015

goddamnedfrank Jul 31, 2015 • 1:55:30pm

So I was at the gas station and got stuck behind some crazy lady who was ear fucking the cashier about the long talk with the Lord she had last night. The gist of the conversation was that things were going to get much better PRAISE HIM PRAISE HIM so she needed to buy scratch tickets.

Completing the picture was her nervous Chihuahua (is there any other kind?) trembling on the counter.

iossarian Jul 31, 2015 • 1:57:00pm

re: #69 Kragar

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A related thought: Donald Trump is the auto-playing video of Presidential candidates.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 1:57:27pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Completing the picture was her nervous Chihuahua (is there any other kind?) trembling on the counter.

The Chihuahua had just realized that the jump wasn’t enough to kill it.

iossarian Jul 31, 2015 • 1:57:31pm

re: #71 iossarian

A related thought: Donald Trump is the auto-playing video of Presidential candidates.

(He’s fucking annoying and there’s nothing you can do about it.)

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 1:57:52pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Completing the picture was her nervous Chihuahua (is there any other kind?) trembling on the counter.

Yes, there’s the mean kind. One of my relatives had one of each kind. One would tremble, the other would attack. A dog shouldn’t have a brain that small.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 2:00:37pm

re: #69 Kragar

I will vote for whichever president makes it so every website has to ask permission to play a single goddamned sound.

I will vote for any candidate who promises to ban auto play

ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 2:00:47pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

So I was at the gas station and got stuck behind some crazy lady who was ear fucking the cashier about the long talk with the Lord she had last night. The gist of the conversation was that things were going to get much better PRAISE HIM PRAISE HIM so she needed to buy scratch tickets.

Completing the picture was her nervous Chihuahua (is there any other kind?) trembling on the counter.

Did the Chihuahua tinkle a bit when she got all fired up about The Lord and her voice raised???

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 2:02:10pm

As Trump's Homeland Security Director, Ann Coulter Pledges Protestant-Only Holidays http://t.co/BYqrnhh0GC via @rightwingwatch

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 31, 2015

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jul 31, 2015 • 2:04:33pm

re: #77 Kragar

As Trump’s Homeland Security Director, Ann Coulter Pledges Protestant-Only Holidays

which will all fall on Saturdays

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Jul 31, 2015 • 2:04:38pm

Mike Huckabee Won't Rule Out Using Federal Troops To Stop Abortions http://t.co/XUMxx1xPDn

— Michael F Ozaki MD (@brontyman) July 31, 2015

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:06:20pm

re: #77 Kragar

Before it’s over they’ll be threatening to invade California so that they can impose Real American Christian Values on the state by force. For it’s own good, naturally.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:07:06pm

re: #79 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

The Huckster is probably just fleecing the rubes, but we'll never find out for sure, since he has no chance. @brontyman

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) July 31, 2015

Patricia Kayden Jul 31, 2015 • 2:07:14pm

“Will they be crazy enough to do it again”

Yep. It’s obvious that many Republicans are crazy enough to shut down the government for silly things. We’ll see if the more sane ones can hold the crazies in check.

wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 2:07:50pm

re: #79 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Those type (Huckabee et al) hate RU486 because they have to arrest or kill pharmacists, and that wasn’t in the previous plans. They like pharmacists.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:09:56pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

Those type (Huckabee et al) hate RU486 because they have to arrest or kill pharmacists, and that wasn’t in the previous plans. They like pharmacists.

They like Christianist pharmacists who refuse to do their jobs. We have the makings of an American Taliban in the Republicans. They don’t even have to get more extreme, just act on their current beliefs, and they will be Taliban.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:10:42pm

re: #82 Patricia Kayden

“Will they be crazy enough to do it again”

Yep. It’s obvious that many Republicans are crazy enough to shut down the government for silly things. We’ll see if the more sane ones can hold the crazies in check.

Good luck with that. It’s become an article of faith with them that when one of their notions fails it’s because they didn’t do it hard enough.

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 2:15:10pm

@mattdpearce The unfortunate consequence of that comparison would seem to make HRC Milla Jovovich

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 31, 2015

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:20:12pm

re: #86 Kragar

HRC in the bandage costume. You made me see that and now I can’t unsee it.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 31, 2015 • 2:20:30pm

It’s painfully obvious that Huckabee wants a Second Civil War-this time, he hopes Northern aggressors will lose. And the reason used will be abortion.

Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 2:20:53pm

re: #87 Higgs Boson’s Mate

HRC in the bandage costume. You made me see that and now I can’t unsee it.

I was thinking the orange stretch suspenders, but its just as bad.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:21:02pm

re: #87 Higgs Boson’s Mate

HRC in the bandage costume. You made me see that and now I can’t unsee it.

Now you made ME see it.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:21:57pm

re: #89 Kragar

I was thinking the orange stretch suspenders, but its just as bad.

A lime green pantsuit with the orange suspenders.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 31, 2015 • 2:23:02pm

re: #86 Kragar

Now I got2a rep1ace my k3yb0ard. Than7s.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:24:21pm

re: #92 Eric The Fruit Bat

Whew! For a second I thought that you were running Windows 10.

Romantic Heretic Jul 31, 2015 • 2:25:12pm

re: #9 piratedan

if the GOP wants to die on that hill, I’ll be happy to lend them the shovels or rent the back hoes needed…..

I’ll cheerfully start loading leather cases full of pistol balls for them.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 31, 2015 • 2:25:32pm

re: #93 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Han’t made its way yet to my machine.

Romantic Heretic Jul 31, 2015 • 2:25:42pm

re: #12 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They’re threatening to shut down the government over something that costs that same as five F-35 fighters. If they want to raise a ruckus, they might start with the fact that we’re buying shitload of hundred million dollar aircraft that we don’t need.

And don’t work.

No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:27:28pm

re: #93 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Whew! For a second I thought that you were running Windows 10.

I’d run Win 10 on one PC if they made it available to me. I’m getting a message saying they’re preparing it for my PC, and to check back soon. This is most likely a lie, since I have 6 PCs telling me this, all with different hardware.

lawhawk Jul 31, 2015 • 2:28:13pm

Right wing extremists. The same right wing extremists who claim that the IRS was out to get Tea Party groups (for the IRS actually making sure that groups aren’t wrongfully claiming exemptions they aren’t entitled to), is now all about trying to get the government to eliminate access to health care - including abortion - for women by force.

That’s not just Mike Huckabee, but the feeling among a growing number of right wing extremists. It doesn’t just show up fully formed in Huckabee’s statements. He’s expressing what he’s hearing in his circle of extremists.

The right wing is rancid.

They have a persecution complex and think that the government is out to get them, all while they themselves are looking to persecute those that don’t hew to their worldview.

Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:29:44pm

re: #96 Romantic Heretic

And don’t work.

The F-35 will set a record though. It will set a record for how quickly it winds up like this:

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No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:30:05pm

re: #98 lawhawk

They think they have a supernatural power on their side. Of course they don’t give a damn about laws, or even reality.

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Romantic Heretic Jul 31, 2015 • 2:30:27pm

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They would love to add a “stand your Constitutional ground” clause to the Second Amendment: you should be free to use it if you feel that any of your other rights are threatened.

They might be surprised to find that people other than their fellow travellers would take advantage of that.

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Jay C Jul 31, 2015 • 2:31:59pm

re: #99 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The F-35 will set a record though. It will set a record for how quickly it winds up like this:

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Heh. The Mike Huckabee Air Force…

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:32:01pm

re: #100 No Country For Old Haters

They think they have a supernatural power on their side. Of course they don’t give a damn about laws, or even reality.

Isn’t there another word for people who are unshakably convinced that they have an imaginary friend who will kick the asses of their enemies?

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Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 2:32:05pm

I have established that all men at some point in their lives have envisioned themselves owning a righteous van. pic.twitter.com/7rNJZPTPvw

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 31, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 2:32:24pm

seems game of frones is slated to run another 3 seasons

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No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:33:41pm

re: #103 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Isn’t there another word for people who are unshakably convinced that they have an imaginary friend who will kick the asses of their enemies?

Fantasy-prone, delusional, batshit-insane. Take your pick.

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 2:38:10pm

re: #104 Kragar

Righteous van

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 2:39:20pm

re: #105 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

seems game of frones is slated to run another 3 seasons

In other news…Jon Snow is still dead.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 2:41:16pm

Righteous Van (Johnson)

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:42:54pm

re: #105 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

seems game of frones is slated to run another 3 seasons

This is certainly good news for fans even if it means the occasional episode devoted to some shepherd who lives so far out in the wilderness that he’s barely heard of the Iron Throne and his girlfriend is a White Walker.

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Timothy Watson Jul 31, 2015 • 2:44:01pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

Those type (Huckabee et al) hate RU486 because they have to arrest or kill pharmacists, and that wasn’t in the previous plans. They like pharmacists.

And places them in opposition to Big Pharma.

Several Virginia politicians (including Jim Gilmore and Bill Bolling) were attack by the RWNJs (I don’t really consider Gilmore nor Bolling to be RWNJs) for owning stock in Barr Pharmaceuticals which makes Plan B.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 2:44:09pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

In other news…Jon Snow is still dead.

And now here’s our top story, with special assistance for the hard of hearing, provided by Garret Morris from the New York School of the Deaf:

JON SNOW IS STILL DEAD! GOOD NIGHT, AND HAVE A PLEASANT TO-MOR-ROW!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 2:44:45pm

i think we’re still in season one of Game of Trumps

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Kragar Jul 31, 2015 • 2:45:42pm

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Whiner is coming.”

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 2:45:46pm

re: #106 No Country For Old Haters

Fantasy-prone, delusional, batshit-insane. Take your pick.

False trichotomy.
///

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 31, 2015 • 2:45:47pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

Huckabee could order federal troops to shut down abortion clinics. They would simply tell him to fuck off, no way in hell, you’re insane etc.

He could then use this “mutiny” by lib-indoctrinated troops to call for volunteers and informal militia to handle the task instead. He could call it the national salvation army or something. The indoctrination provided by the Jade Helm conspiracy theories would have helped lay the groundwork for this.

The New Brotherhood Army.

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lawhawk Jul 31, 2015 • 2:45:50pm

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think we’re still in season one of Game of Trumps

Game of Dumps. The Chucky Johnson edition. /

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 2:46:05pm

re: #114 Kragar

“Whiner is coming.”

She’ll be in his cabinet.

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Timothy Watson Jul 31, 2015 • 2:46:13pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

In other news…Jon Snow is still dead.

I need a GIF of that epic exaggerated eyeroll Jerry Seinfeld did in one episode of Seinfeld.

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A Cranky One Jul 31, 2015 • 2:46:25pm

re: #110 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This is certainly good news for fans even if it means the occasional episode devoted to some shepherd who lives so far out in the wilderness that he’s barely heard of the Iron Throne and his girlfriend is a White Walker.

Hey, those White Walkers are scary!

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No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:46:35pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

False trichotomy.
///

And two of them weren’t technically words, so delusional wins by default.

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 2:46:39pm

re: #114 Kragar

“Whiner is coming.”

“You know nothing, Jeb Bush. Loser.”

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:48:03pm

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think we’re still in season one of Game of Trumps

This is where we learn that, yes, the guy in the black armor with the black shield carrying a black lance while riding his black-caparisoned black horse is the fucking bad guy.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 2:48:58pm

re: #99 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The F-35 will set a record though. It will set a record for how quickly it winds up like this:

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F86s?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 2:49:57pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

In other news…Jon Snow is still dead.

“you know nothing, DD”

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 2:50:07pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

F86s?

Close: Republic F84s.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 2:50:25pm

BREAKING: David Daleiden used fake California ID during undercover videos, and his name WAS NOT MCLOVIN! Such a FAIL. http://t.co/nh5VLhuHbi

— Teddy Wilson (@txindyjourno) July 31, 2015

DD: “I'm here to buy fetal tissue.” PP: “What's your name? DD: “Ummm… McLovin?” @AngryBlackLady @SofiaResnick

— Teddy Wilson (@txindyjourno) July 31, 2015

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FormerDirtDart Jul 31, 2015 • 2:51:45pm

I am now convinced that twitter is connecting us with an alternate reality

@AnthroDoula IRL, ABORTION SERVICES ARE 95 to 97% of what PP does. But no surprise that murderers would have no trouble lying.
— Holding Our Own (@Holding_Our_Own) July 31, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 2:53:26pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

“You know nothing, Jeb Bush. Loser.”

Which GoT Character Is Most Like Trump?

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Timothy Watson Jul 31, 2015 • 2:54:00pm

re: #129 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Which GoT Character Is Most Like Trump?

Joffrey?

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The Mountain That Blogs Jul 31, 2015 • 2:54:09pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

Nothing they say is intended to be a factual statement.

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No Country For Old Haters Jul 31, 2015 • 2:54:51pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

I am now convinced that twitter is connecting us with an alternate reality

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Is @Holding_Our_Own calling itself a murderer? It's certainly lying. Probably another religious fanatic. @AnthroDoula

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) July 31, 2015

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FormerDirtDart Jul 31, 2015 • 2:55:56pm

re: #131 The Mountain That Blogs

Nothing they say is intended to be a factual statement.

Welcome to the Kyl-verse

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 2:57:26pm

re: #129 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Which GoT Character Is Most Like Trump?

Mountain. He’s YOOOOOGE.

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lawhawk Jul 31, 2015 • 2:58:16pm

re: #129 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Tywin Lannister. Deceitful, cunning, playing everyone against everyone else. Inherited position but finds his coffers empty after spending wildly.

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Timothy Watson Jul 31, 2015 • 3:01:51pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Tywin Lannister. Deceitful, cunning, playing everyone against everyone else. Inherited position but finds his coffers empty after spending wildly.

But Tywin is actually effective and not a braggart.

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Great White Snark Jul 31, 2015 • 3:07:11pm

..@brontyman When a guy like that makes threats you know you won the argument
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) July 31, 2015

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Mike Lamb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:07:40pm

re: #129 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Which GoT Character Is Most Like Trump?

Hodor.

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:07:53pm

re: #136 Timothy Watson

But Tywin is actually effective and not a braggart.

Huckabee is the High Sparrow.

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Maddies Mom Jul 31, 2015 • 3:09:28pm

I know this will sound really crass, but I would love to counter all the pictures of bloody fetuses with pictures of what a six-year-old’s body looks like when bullets tear through it.

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wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 3:10:06pm

re: #137 Great White Snark

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That thought would help my mental health, but Huckabee is still drumming up enthusiasm for dead doctors, I’m afraid.

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Great White Snark Jul 31, 2015 • 3:10:17pm

re: #99 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The F-35 will set a record though. It will set a record for how quickly it winds up like this:

Embedded Image

Yeah maybe the next time we don’t let the budgeteers dictate the design. One airframe for all services was always one of the worst ideas aerospace ever suffered. Ever think that if we deduct the waste and bads management we have a lower defense budget than some advanced nations?
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The reason that plane costs so much is they tried to go cheap.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 3:10:19pm

re: #129 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Which GoT Character Is Most Like Trump?

Robert Baratheon.

Wanted to be King, but didn’t want to deal with the responsibility of ruling. Slept around - A LOT. Braggart who got fat and ugly with age. Forced himself on his blond trophy wife.

ETA: spent his kingdom into bankruptcy.

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goddamnedfrank Jul 31, 2015 • 3:10:36pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Tywin Lannister. Deceitful, cunning, playing everyone against everyone else. Inherited position but finds his coffers empty after spending wildly.

Turns a blind eye to his incestuous children …

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Mike Lamb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:11:21pm

re: #140 Maddies Mom

I know this will sound really crass, but I would love to counter all the pictures of bloody fetuses with pictures of what a six-year-old’s body looks like when bullets tear through it.

You don’t have to go that far. Just stories of infants that were killed due to abuse/neglect, or infants that were birthed and left to die.

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wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 3:12:21pm

re: #140 Maddies Mom

I know this will sound really crass, but I would love to counter all the pictures of bloody fetuses with pictures of what a six-year-old’s body looks like when bullets tear through it.

Or see whether the fetus fanatics can tell the difference between a used feminine hygiene product and the results of an abortion.

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ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 3:13:53pm

re: #126 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Close: Republic F84s.

I take it that is in the airplane junkyard out in Tucson?

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Patricia Kayden Jul 31, 2015 • 3:14:55pm

re: #21 JadeHelmCurious

The Obama administration has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

Love your name!!

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 3:15:51pm

re: #140 Maddies Mom

I know this will sound really crass, but I would love to counter all the pictures of bloody fetuses with pictures of what a six-year-old’s body looks like when bullets tear through it.

Women who died from illegal abortions.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 3:16:20pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

I take it that is in the airplane junkyard out in Tucson?

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 3:17:40pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

We’ll use those to defeat John Travolta, after finding them in unbelievably perfect condition, and learning to fly them from only an owners’ manual.

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wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 3:19:51pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

I was gonna say, ‘Don’t insult Tucson’s airport!’ but that’s on the other side of I-10. Looks the same.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 3:20:11pm

re: #151 Blind Frog Belly White

We’ll use those to defeat John Travolta, after finding them in unbelievably perfect condition, and learning to fly them from only an owners’ manual.

No ground school, no simulator, not so much as a fam hop; just kick the tires and light the fire.

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Skip Intro Jul 31, 2015 • 3:20:14pm

re: #145 Mike Lamb

You don’t have to go that far. Just stories of infants that were killed due to abuse/neglect, or infants that were birthed and left to die.

They don’t care about them. Once they’re born they turn into greedy little parasites sucking the taxpayers dry. Only the Sacred Fetus matters to these people.

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ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 3:23:57pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

My brother was in the USAF 1963 thru ‘67 and was crew chief for a couple F-4 Phantoms at Davis Monthan.

I was always fascinated by all the aircraft out there.

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sizzzzlerz Jul 31, 2015 • 3:24:03pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Tywin Lannister. Deceitful, cunning, playing everyone against everyone else. Inherited position but finds his coffers empty after spending wildly.

Dies on the shitter from an arrow shot by his son. Oh, wait, that hasn’t happened to Trump. Yet.

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A Mom Anon Jul 31, 2015 • 3:24:32pm

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think that would phase them. In their warped world the dead woman deserved it for being a baby killer. This whole thing is a fetish with them. They care not one bit for the living, except themselves.

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Skip Intro Jul 31, 2015 • 3:24:55pm

Drought reality check: Source of drinking water for more than 23 million Californians is at 33% capacity

Don’t worry about us, though. We’ll all be moving to your state soon. I hope there’s room for all of us.

latimes.com

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Great White Snark Jul 31, 2015 • 3:25:35pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

I take it that is in the airplane junkyard out in Tucson?

I have been to that boneyard. What I saw a few years ago was openly chopped B-52’s left out for satellite verification. And lots of old intact fighters covered up as if they would be recalled and flown. Also saw a bunch of very old drones, of the same overall shape as the SR-71 engine pods.

Interesting how they chopped the bombers into segments and just left them there. Big crane and heavens own guillotine blade. Must be quite a sight in operation.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 3:25:48pm

re: #153 Higgs Boson’s Mate

No ground school, no simulator, not so much as a fam hop; just kick the tires and light the fire.

Completely believable!

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:26:35pm

This is how it’s supposed to go down. That town in our county usually has its shit together:

Man charged with punching Dothan police officer

dothaneagle.com

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 31, 2015 • 3:26:47pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

I have been to that boneyard. What I saw a few years ago was openly chopped B-52’s left out for satellite verification. And lots of old intact fighters covered up as if they would be recalled and flown. Also saw a bunch of very old drones, of the same overall shape as the SR-71 engine pods.

Interesting how they chopped the bombers into segments and just left them there. Big crane and heavens own guillotine blade. Must be quite a sight in operation.

“Hey wait! Don’t drop it yet! I dropped my lighter!”

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 3:27:09pm

The HURR HURR OUTRAGE!!!!!! going around Teh Wingnut Twitters is HURR HURR TEH BANNED VIDEO SHOWS A LIVE FULL TERM BABBY & THEY CUT IT UP WHILE IT’S STILL MOVING!!!!!!!1!

@AllenWest The stem cell company was taking in live babies & killing them for their parts after the mothers thought they were dead. #OneNews

— Anea Forlorne (@Anea4Lorn) July 31, 2015

Looks like #PlannedParenthood may have delivered live babies and killed them after.

— American (@shookw) July 31, 2015

Intact DEAD Babies were LIVE Babies when Delivered. Then they were KILLED. Infanticide. No Protestors at STEM Expres https://t.co/e4B1F1hSjs

— Bane Richards (@Bane1349) July 31, 2015

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Maddies Mom Jul 31, 2015 • 3:28:11pm

re: #145 Mike Lamb

You don’t have to go that far. Just stories of infants that were killed due to abuse/neglect, or infants that were birthed and left to die.

But people read stories like that every day and it doesn’t seem to matter. The anti-choicers know what works…. visuals.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 31, 2015 • 3:28:40pm

re: #140 Maddies Mom

I know this will sound really crass, but I would love to counter all the pictures of bloody fetuses with pictures of what a six-year-old’s body looks like when bullets tear through it.

Just hit ‘em with the story of ‘Genie’ - one of the most appalling cases of child abuse I’ve ever heard about.

Even the rather clinical and detached Wikipedia entry is enough to make my hair stand on end.

en.wikipedia.org

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 3:28:46pm

A lot of these OUTRAGE!!!!1!!! Tweets seem to be coming from retweet bots.

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EPR-radar Jul 31, 2015 • 3:31:16pm

re: #154 Skip Intro

They don’t care about them. Once they’re born they turn into greedy little parasites sucking the taxpayers dry. Only the Sacred Fetus matters to these people.

The fetus is only sacred to RWNJs because its supposed rights are a weapon against self-determination for women.

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sizzzzlerz Jul 31, 2015 • 3:31:23pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

Davis Monthan boneyard

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wrenchwench Jul 31, 2015 • 3:34:20pm

re: #167 EPR-radar

The fetus is only sacred to RWNJs because its supposed rights are a weapon against self-determination for women.

Yep. The people pushing for ‘personhood’ for an embryo will take that ‘personhood’ from the woman carrying it.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 31, 2015 • 3:35:24pm

Apparently this is old news, but it came to light for me via a friend’s post on FB. No more Jimmy John’s for me. CEO is a big-game hunting anti-Union wingnut.

rawstory.com

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 3:35:47pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

Yep. The people pushing for ‘personhood’ for an embryo will take that ‘personhood’ from the woman carrying it.

If you say that a fetus has rights, you say that a pregnant woman has no rights. #tcot #UniteBlue @ProWomanChoice pic.twitter.com/HpY3N0Cn5x

— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 31, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 3:37:57pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

re: #168 sizzzzlerz

When one of my squadrons switched aircraft type we sent all 75 of our old birds to Davis Monthan. This was in early 1970. Our old aircraft were post-Korean War Grumman F9s.

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#FergusonFireside Jul 31, 2015 • 3:38:00pm

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Just hit ‘em with the story of ‘Genie’ - one of the most appalling cases of child abuse I’ve ever heard about.

Even the rather clinical and detached Wikipedia entry is enough to make my hair stand on end.

en.wikipedia.org

Never heard that story before.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 31, 2015 • 3:38:11pm

Dylann Roof pleads not guilty. smmfh

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Shiplord Kirel Jul 31, 2015 • 3:39:16pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

I have been to that boneyard. What I saw a few years ago was openly chopped B-52’s left out for satellite verification. And lots of old intact fighters covered up as if they would be recalled and flown. Also saw a bunch of very old drones, of the same overall shape as the SR-71 engine pods.

Interesting how they chopped the bombers into segments and just left them there. Big crane and heavens own guillotine blade. Must be quite a sight in operation.

The drones are probably Lockheed D-21s. This was a mach 3 reconnaissance drone developed in parallel with the SR-71’s immediate predecessor, the A-12 and intended to be launched from an A-12 variant called the M-21. This was much more like the later SR-71 than the standard A-12 since it was a two seater. One of the M-21s crashed during a launch test and the AF changed the launch platform to a modified B-52. Like the A-12 and SR-71 themselves, this was an incredibly advanced program for the time frame, 1958-1971.

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#FergusonFireside Jul 31, 2015 • 3:40:52pm

First Dusty Rhodes, now Roddy Piper.

(My brother’s childhood is flaming)

1st Dusty Rhodes dies, then Hulk Hogan is a racist and now Roddy Piper passes , my childhood is going up in tatters
— Moley (@Moley_LFC) July 31, 2015

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ObserverArt Jul 31, 2015 • 3:41:38pm

re: #174 GlutenFreeJesus

Dylann Roof pleads not guilty. smmfh

I had heard he was ready to plead guilty but his lawyer talked him out of it.

And with that…guitar jam night…going to ready the equipment. Later all, enjoy your evening. I’m gonna give it my best!

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Higgs Boson's Mate Jul 31, 2015 • 3:42:51pm

re: #176 #FergusonFireside

First Dusty Rhodes, now Roddy Piper.

(My brother’s childhood is flaming)

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I go back to Gorgeous George. Wrestling was an early staple of television.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 31, 2015 • 3:43:35pm

re: #173 #FergusonFireside

Never heard that story before.

It was big news when it broke in 1970; people were still talking about it when I was a kid growing up in Los Angeles in the mid to late 70s.

Absolutely horrific and just beyond comprehension.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 3:43:47pm

re: #178 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I go back to Gorgeous George.

gorilla monsoon!

best wrestling name ever!

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 31, 2015 • 3:44:43pm

Of course the racist NR goes with this blood libel==>

Does a Future Planned Parenthood Video Contain 'Prima Facie Evidence of Born-Alive Infants?' http://t.co/KD4UbN3b5v pic.twitter.com/ifHFce85mN

— National Review (@NRO) July 31, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 31, 2015 • 3:45:27pm

gorilla monsoon

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Kid A Jul 31, 2015 • 3:46:04pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS?

@AllenWest Planned Parenthood founder——-addressing the Ku Klux Klan Pictures http://t.co/pwXbaF8jEp

— Malcolm Garvey (@Elijahmalcolm) July 31, 2015

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Dr Lizardo Jul 31, 2015 • 3:47:27pm

So, goodnight, Lizards.

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:50:04pm

re: #178 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I go back to Gorgeous George. Wrestling was an early staple of television.

Bruno Sammartino.

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 3:51:53pm

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

Of course the racist NR goes with this blood libel==>

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At what point do the punks cross the line and get sued by someone with deep pockets?

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De Kolta Chair Jul 31, 2015 • 3:53:59pm

Elvis, the Pelvis, and Ron Ziegler, White House press secretary, at the 1971 Jaycees’ Ten Outstanding Young Men in America awards ceremony. Zeigler paid tribute to the Jaycees for accepting “the high adventure of being Americans.” It was not reported how high Elvis was that evening.

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#FergusonFireside Jul 31, 2015 • 3:59:03pm

re: #178 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I go back to Gorgeous George. Wrestling was an early staple of television.

Every single day after school. I hated it, but he was bigger & would do the moves on me in a blink of an eye.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 31, 2015 • 3:59:24pm

re: #183 Kid A

It’s a shopped picture:
gettyimages.com

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Decatur Deb Jul 31, 2015 • 4:05:16pm

NYT reports the Roof “Not Guilty” plea was imposed by the judge while Roof’s lawyer is balking at a guilty plea. Issue is the death penalty.

nytimes.com

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Romantic Heretic Jul 31, 2015 • 4:27:22pm

re: #137 Great White Snark

A few years ago, at a family gathering, I was debating with an Xtian who is married to a cousin of mine.

He ended the debate by informing me, “You know, Christians used to kill people like you.”

I remember it far too well.

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Romantic Heretic Jul 31, 2015 • 4:31:23pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nailed it: Davis Monthan AFB.

Which you can see on Google Maps.

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BeachDem Jul 31, 2015 • 4:48:21pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Bruno Sammartino.

Killer Kowalski

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Saint Stephen Jul 31, 2015 • 4:59:35pm

Just found this out while reading the comments:

Center for American Progress: liberal organization

Center for Medical Progress: RWNJ organization

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BeachDem Jul 31, 2015 • 5:01:55pm

re: #194 Saint Stephen

Just found this out while reading the comments:

Center for American Progress: liberal organization

Center for Medical Progress: RWNJ organization

And,

Center for Medical Progress at the Manhattan Institute, which had to add this disclaimer at the top of their page:

If you have reached this site in search of recent news events and a video surrounding Planned Parenthood, you have reached the incorrect website and organization. We are the Center for Medical Progress at the Manhattan Institute which is different than the individual organization, Center for Medical Progress.

manhattan-institute.org

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Saint Stephen Jul 31, 2015 • 5:05:25pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

I’ve recently heard that about 3% of PP services are abortion related. If so, then when “Holding Our Own” says they’re 95 to 97%, that’s a complete numerical inversion of reality.

I’m used to RWNJs inverting reality, but I think this is the first time I’ve seen them quantify it.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Jul 31, 2015 • 5:39:21pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood.

I saw a very new-looking sticker on the back of a compact wagon a couple of days ago; it was PP-pink with a big white cross on it and it read “Let GOD Plan Parenthood!”*. The driver was local, he pulled off into an apartment complex down the street from me… This is urban north Texas so it’s not like we’re out in the sticks…

I’m speculating that somebody had the stickers ready to go. I’d be interested to follow the money on this brouhaha, because it’s starting to feel to me very much like a pre-canned rally-the-freaks campaign to get some poll numbers back up.

*This has to be one of the most nauseatingly chauvinistic things I’ve ever read in slogan form… It’s like a big “I’M FUCKING CRAZY AND FUCK YOU!” sign.

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dell*nix Jul 31, 2015 • 6:14:31pm

re: #158 Skip Intro

A reverse dustbowl?

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Tigger2 Jul 31, 2015 • 6:38:17pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

I am now convinced that twitter is connecting us with an alternate reality

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@Holding_Our_Own @AnthroDoula Abortion services are about 3% of what Planned Parenthood does get your facts straight idiot.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) August 1, 2015

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