FBI Arrests Anti-Government Extremists in NC, Building Bombs - UPDATE: Inspired by "Jade Helm" Conspiracy Theory

FBI Arrests Anti-Government Extremists in NC, Building Bombs - UPDATE: Inspired by “Jade Helm” Conspiracy Theory

The Fox News audience gets busy

US NewsAugust 2015 • Views: 73,037

Here we go again. How long until Jim Hoft tries to label these crazies as “leftists?” FBI: Men Arrested for Making Explosives to Resist Government.

You know he will.

Reports say that law inforcement received tips that Walter Litteral, 50, Christopher Barker, 41 and Christopher Campbell, 30, were attempting to manufacture explosive or destructive devices.

Law enforcement were reportedly told the men were reconstructing live grenades from “dummy grenades” sold as military artifacts at stores.

Authorities believe the men were preparing for the possibility that the government intended to use armed forces to impose martial law, which they planned to resist.

The FBI also reportedly became aware that the men wanted to manufacture pipe bombs.

Other defensive items were said to be purchased from stores, including a .338 caliber rifle, hand-held radios with throat microphones for communication, military issue Kevlar helmets, body armor vests and balaclavas (a form of cloth headgear designed to expose only parts of the face).

UPDATE at 8/3/15 8:24:12 pm by Charles Johnson

More information now coming out; according to court records, these three were inspired to start building bombs by the “Jade Helm” conspiracy theory.

Court records showed a controversial military training exercise in Texas and other southwestern states may have been fueling their violent ideas.

The exercise is called Jade Helm, a two-month long special operations training exercise with members of U.S. Army Special Operations Command and service members from the military’s four branches, according to the U.S. Army.

The exercise has drawn conspiracy theorists to believe martial law will be declared and civilian groups to keep an eye on the military in response.

Jade Helm is mentioned in a federal complaint against Barker, Campbell and Litteral.

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293 comments

Kragar Aug 3, 2015 • 7:40:15pm

Waiting to hear all about how these guys were a group of lone wolves and all secret liberals.

I wonder what video games and music pushed them into doing this.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 7:41:51pm

re: #1 Kragar

Waiting to here all about how these guys were a group of lone wolves and all secret liberals.

I wonder what video games and music pushed them into doing this.

If its three men, then they are not “lone wolves”, they are a “wolf pack”.

/;)

FormerDirtDart Aug 3, 2015 • 7:45:10pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

If its three men, then they are not “lone wolves”, they are a “wolf pack”.

/;)

If their skin was darker and/or they were Muslim, they’d be a “Terrorist Cell”

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 7:46:08pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

If their skin was darker and/or they were Muslim, they’d be a “Terrorist Cell”

Actually, that’s what they in fact are.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 7:46:11pm

The guy in the middle with the face tattoo, I’ll bet he’s well-read and articulate.

jaunte Aug 3, 2015 • 7:46:48pm

(a form of cloth headgear designed to expose only parts of the face)

Well that makes ya drone-proof, for sure.

Great White Snark Aug 3, 2015 • 7:48:49pm

Whoa, I guess these guys careers as models just was not gonna work out. Bonus-Ugly ass ink.

FormerDirtDart Aug 3, 2015 • 7:50:47pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

If its three men, then they are not “lone wolves”, they are a “wolf pack”.

/;)

Or
The Lone Rangers

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 3, 2015 • 7:51:39pm

LONE WOLVES!

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 3, 2015 • 7:55:23pm

THUGS.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 3, 2015 • 7:59:24pm

OT: Sorry.

wgntv.com

CHICAGO — Toy-maker Ty Inc. has created a “Cecil the Lion” Beanie Baby to raise funds for animal conservation efforts.

Creation of the toy comes after an American dentist was accused of killing the well-known lion named Cecil in Zimbabwe in an allegedly illegal hunt. The incident set off a worldwide uproar.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:07:32pm

re: #11 GlutenFreeJesus

OT: Sorry.

wgntv.com

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It’s not only a charitable contribution, its an investment as well.

/Beanie Baby joke

stpaulbear Aug 3, 2015 • 8:07:49pm

re: #6 jaunte

(a form of cloth headgear designed to expose only parts of the face)

Well that makes ya drone-proof, for sure.

…so Wendy went to Manchester to buy a balaclava.
But suddenly became engulfed in floods of molten lava.

allegro Aug 3, 2015 • 8:09:32pm

Now I’m craving baklava.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:10:12pm

I wear a balaclava every day in the winter.

Decatur Deb Aug 3, 2015 • 8:10:13pm

Better to wear a balaclava than baklava.

stpaulbear Aug 3, 2015 • 8:10:31pm

re: #11 GlutenFreeJesus

I wonder how many guys will buy one of those so that they can make a video of themselves shooting it?

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 3, 2015 • 8:12:32pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

Not me. I am going to cuddle with mine. :)

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 3, 2015 • 8:14:01pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

huffingtonpost.com

Now, about the topic. Hmmmm. Wonder where those 3 redneck white dudes would get the idea that the Government is coming for them?

allegro Aug 3, 2015 • 8:15:07pm

Between Buddy the dog and Blossom the Cockatoo that little Cecil wouldn’t stand a chance. There would be Cecil innards everywhere.

gocart mozart Aug 3, 2015 • 8:17:02pm

Which raises an interesting point. The Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment in order to protect/defend ourselves against a totalitarian and/or oppressive government. If the citizenry is to be able to protect/defend itself against such a government, should not the citizens have the same weapons as government?

Free Republic Comment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3320252/posts?page=1

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:18:34pm

What’s the policy around here of linking to the freeper creepers? Is DoNotLink good etiquette?

Dave In Austin Aug 3, 2015 • 8:18:49pm

Stewart is eviserating FOX news tonite. They are going to hate the last days of The Daily Show.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:19:58pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

What’s the policy around here of linking to the freeper creepers? Is DoNotLink good etiquette?

It’s what I use when making my point requires providing the path to an insane site but I don’t want it to get the clicks.

Jenner7 Aug 3, 2015 • 8:23:00pm

Today, I read more about Darren Wilson's “life” than I've ever seen printed about any of the victims of the #CharlestonShooting.

— deray mckesson (@deray) August 4, 2015

Arrest Darren Wilson.

— deray mckesson (@deray) August 4, 2015

I didn't need a long-form article to know Darren Wilson was racist. & if you did, that makes me sad. That New Yorker piece was trash.

— deray mckesson (@deray) August 4, 2015

Charles Johnson Aug 3, 2015 • 8:24:39pm

More information now coming out; these three were apparently inspired to start building bombs by the “Jade Helm” conspiracy theory.

Court records showed a controversial military training exercise in Texas and other southwestern states may have been fueling their violent ideas.

The exercise is called Jade Helm, a two-month long special operations training exercise with members of U.S. Army Special Operations Command and service members from the military’s four branches, according to the U.S. Army.

The exercise has drawn conspiracy theorists to believe martial law will be declared and civilian groups to keep an eye on the military in response.

Jade Helm is mentioned in a federal complaint against Barker, Campbell and Litteral.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:26:50pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

“The Fox News audience gets busy”

Ugh. Not good. Not good at all.

Belafon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:30:56pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

Has there been any interpretation that says that the purpose of the second amendment is meant to give people the ability to protect against the government? Because an interpretation like that would open up the ability to own fighter jets, tanks, missiles and nuclear weapons.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:32:20pm

WWII veteran, 88, batters burglar in his house at midnight over the head with his WALKING STICK

A pensioner sent a burglar packing empty handed by battering him over the head - with his walking stick.

World War Two veteran Tom Bull was asleep when the thief burst into his bungalow in Kingswinford, West Midlands, after breaking in through a window in the middle of the night.

The burglar threatened the 88-year-old and demanded cash before throwing him to the floor in his hallway.

ut Mr Bull followed the masked man into his kitchen where he grabbed hold of his walking stick and gave him a ‘good old wallop.’

Despite the thief pleading ‘please don’t hit me’ the great-grandfather chased him around the house with the wooden cane.

SNIP

Mr Bull, who served with the Welsh Guards during the Second World War, said he was not going to let burglars get the better of him without a fight.

The Welsh Guards battalions served in some hard fought battles: Anzio (where the WG battalion was part of a Guards brigade that fought a regiment of German and Italian paratroopers to a standstill), the breakout past Caen in Normandy, when the Guard Armoured Division saw off Michael Wittmann and at least four other Tigers and their crews, and in the Frozen Hell of the north shoulder of the Ardennes ‘bulge’, where the Guards worked to roll back the Germans.

A man who lived through that and came back sane is not going to fear some lowlife hood.

BongCrodny Aug 3, 2015 • 8:32:38pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

Free Republic Comment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3320252/posts?page=1

I, for one, look forward to the day when Charles C. Johnson has his own nuclear weapon.

Decatur Deb Aug 3, 2015 • 8:33:49pm

re: #28 Belafon

Has there been any interpretation that says that the purpose of the second amendment is meant to give people the ability to protect against the government? Because an interpretation like that would open up the ability to own fighter jets, tanks, missiles and nuclear weapons.

That’s years behind Michigan militia thinking. Fortunately, such weapons require vast collective effort, and these yobs don’t work and play well with others.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:39:16pm

And since we’re talking about guns, here’s a rifle liberal folks might enjoy reading about:

John F. Kennedy’s M1 Garand

Back in 1959, the Director of Marksmanship for the CMP was Colonel John K. Lee Jr, a man who very likely would have been made aware that a young upstart senator from Massachusetts had been selected to receive an M1 Garand. That senator was John F. Kennedy. At that time, the DCM was distributing the rifles based on a lottery system, with only several hundred to a thousand being sold in a given year. Many folks would wait years for a random rifle selected from the surplus kept at various depots, but it appears that Kennedy’s clout granted him quick access to the very desirable rifles, and a very special one at that.

This M1 started from one of those depots, the Erie Ordnance Depot in Port Clinton, OH to be precise, but was far from a random selection. The rifle picked for Senator Kennedy bears a late production 6+ million serial number and is a Type 1 National Match M1 Garand, that has been rebuilt to a Type 2. After the NM rifle “happened” to be selected for Kennedy, it also “happened” to make its way to Master Sergeant Raymond E Parkinson, a gunsmith assigned to the Second U.S. Army Advanced Marksmanship Unit at Ft. George C. Meade in Maryland. Once there, much of the work took place that can be seen on the rifle to this day. In fact, COL Lee was kind enough to detail such changes in a letter he sent to Senator Kennedy after the rifle was received. The modifications, as listed in the communication, are:

1. Adjusted the trigger in order to provide an exacting trigger pull for each shot fired.
2. Blued all metal parts to prevent rust and enhance the beauty of the weapon.
3. Applied a moisture-proof silicon finish to the stock.
4. Applied a glass-bedding compound to the recoil shoulders of the stock in order to
enable the rifle to maintain its accuracy.
5. Air-tested the bore for correct calibration and flaws.
6. Test-fired the rifle in a sitting position at 200 yards.

“For your information, Mast Sergeant Parkinson did the test firing and the target is enclosed. The rifle was not test-fired from a cradle because the gun smiths did not want to scar the stock, however, the test proved conclusively that the rifle is very accurate and as good as any rifle used at the National Matches.”

Even the effort to not mar the stock by firing it from a cradle clearly shows the utmost car taken in creating this gun for Kennedy. Thankfully, the documentation of the rifle’s journey has also been preserved. Accompanying this rifle are a copy of the original DD1348 form noting that it was shipped to Senator Kennedy in October of 1959, the copy of the aforementioned memorandum from COL Lee to Kennedy, the actual 200 yard test target shot by MSG Parkinson, and a copy of the letter of appreciation that Kennedy wrote to MSG Parkinson thanking him for his work and attention to the rifle.

This rifle will be up for auction in September, though it won’t go cheap.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:40:23pm

re: #25 Jenner7

I didn’t need a long-form article to know Darren Wilson was racist. & if you did, that makes me sad. That New Yorker piece was trash.

I read Slate’s analysis of the piece, which broke down all the worst parts of what Wilson said. Wilson is a racist, and he made that very clear with his own quotes.

I’ll read the full New Yorker piece in due time. Tragic thing is Wilson has all the say of what happened that terrible August afternoon, his victim does not for all time.

gwangung Aug 3, 2015 • 8:42:01pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

I read Slate’s analysis of the piece, which broke down all the worst parts of what Wilson said. Wilson is a racist, and he made that very clear with his own quotes.

I’ll read the full New Yorker piece in due time. Tragic thing is Wilson has all the say of what happened that terrible August afternoon, his victim does not for all time.

Yeah, but it was meant for the slow learners.

(If you’re black, you learn quick…as a matter of survival).

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:45:20pm

gwangung,

Private Comment

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 3, 2015 • 8:45:56pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

That’s years behind Michigan militia thinking. Fortunately, such weapons require vast collective effort, and these yobs don’t work and play well with others.

Shucks, I bet that they could just figure out all on their own how to set the timing and headspace on an M2 Browning using only a beer can and Vise Grips.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:47:39pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Shucks, I bet that they could just figure out all on their own how to set the timing and headspace on an M2 Browning using only a beer can and Vise Grips.

Better just to get the Ma Deuce upgraded to the M2A1 configuration with the Quick-Change Barrel (QCB), which solves the headspacing issues.

gwangung Aug 3, 2015 • 8:48:05pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

No…..just had plenty of friends with families in the camps. (Different ethnicities…but had family who got held in immigration detention….)

Decatur Deb Aug 3, 2015 • 8:48:26pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Shucks, I bet that they could just figure out all on their own how to set the timing and headspace on an M2 Browning using only a beer can and Vise Grips.

Got my FIL’s gauges in the garage. Since his M60 didn’t have a .30, he ground that end down to make an extraction tool.

Great White Snark Aug 3, 2015 • 8:48:45pm

re: #28 Belafon

Has there been any interpretation that says that the purpose of the second amendment is meant to give people the ability to protect against the government? Because an interpretation like that would open up the ability to own fighter jets, tanks, missiles and nuclear weapons.

Of course we can!

Decatur Deb Aug 3, 2015 • 8:51:56pm

Earl Bassett: What kind of fuse is that?
Burt Gummer: Cannon fuse
Earl Bassett: What the hell do you use it for?
Burt Gummer: My cannon!

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 8:53:04pm

re: #38 gwangung

Ya. You’re a post-war dude, right?

George Carlin, in his last stand-up broadcast (he died a few months after this was filmed) talked about “rights” and those Asian descendants and what they went through in WWII.

NSFW because George Carlin

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William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 8:53:31pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

And since we’re talking about guns, here’s a rifle liberal folks might enjoy reading about:

John F. Kennedy’s M1 Garand

This rifle will be up for auction in September, though it won’t go cheap.

Beautiful but even if I could afford it, that’s not for me. I’d like a CMP field grade that I could throw in the back of my van and have there for when the urge to go to the range and shoot till my trigger finger was tired :)

Put that girl in a museum somewhere so that in the future kids can appreciate just how good a working man’s rifle could be.

Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 3, 2015 • 8:54:56pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

Got my FIL’s gauges in the garage. Since his M60 didn’t have a .30, he ground that end down to make an extraction tool.

Cool! Now I know who to contact the next time I re-barrel. The FBI may have done the accused a favor in the long run. They look like the type who would try out a bazooka in the basement. “Now hold my beer and move behind me…”

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 8:56:13pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Better just to get the Ma Deuce upgraded to the M2A1 configuration with the Quick-Change Barrel (QCB), which solves the headspacing issues.

Why? Any M2 gunner worth anything can adjust it in their sleep and then let her rock until dawn.

(seriously, I always considered that a solution in search of a problem.)

Just don’t foist an M-85 on me ever again.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 8:58:31pm

I’ve made some historical references tonight, so it seems a good night for this other one, although this one is from people who were hostile to the US (not without reason):

Vintage

An 87-year-old veteran of the first Sandino rebellion, armed with a double-barreled shotgun, stands with an 18-year-old Sandinista guerrilla holding an assault rifle in Leon, Nicaragua, June 19, 1979. “I fought against the Yankee invasion in the thirties and I’d like to fight today, but I’m too old,” said the old man. (Richard Cross ASSOCIATED PRESS)

Source.

It’s not only powerful nations that use older generations to inspire the young.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 9:00:38pm

re: #43 William Lewis

Beautiful but even if I could afford it, that’s not for me. I’d like a CMP field grade that I could throw in the back of my van and have there for when the urge to go to the range and shoot till my trigger finger was tired :)

Put that girl in a museum somewhere so that in the future kids can appreciate just how good a working man’s rifle could be.

She’s more likely to end up in the private collection of some rich liberal. What I’d like to have happen would be to have the piece put on display, as you suggested, but that is a less likely outcome.

Decatur Deb Aug 3, 2015 • 9:01:12pm

re: #45 William Lewis

Why? Any M2 gunner worth anything can adjust it in their sleep and then let her rock until dawn.

(seriously, I always considered that a solution in search of a problem.)

Just don’t foist an M-85 on me ever again.

The militia nutjob fascination with full auto is a hoot. Spray-and-pray depends on a long, rich, logistics chain. The Garand is probably the best thing that could ever be fed if their fever dreams came true.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 9:08:59pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

I’ve made some historical references tonight, so it seems a good night for this other one, although this one is from people who were hostile to the US (not without reason):

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Source.

It’s not only powerful nations that use older generations to inspire the young.

Reminds me of some history I know…

In 1982, my senior year of high school we had a new family move in. Nicaraguan. I got to know the older son and took an economics class at the University from the father (we spent a lot of time arguing the merits of the “Laffer Curve”. This then young socialist got an A in the course for holding my own.)

The father had been educated in the US. He went back home and went to work for the Samosa government in economics. Eventually he was forced to flee into the hills because he was considered far too radical. His sons joined the Sandinistas and fought to the end. They were lucky and survived unscathed. The first Galil I ever saw was in a photo of my young former Sandinista friend.

His father then went to work for the Sandinista Government and eventually they moved to Florida and then on to Wisconsin because he was too conservative for the new government - though staying would have had far less fatal results than his previous problems…

Politics is always a mess. I’m just glad they all survived all sides of it.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 9:17:01pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

people who were hostile to the US (not without reason):

Bolding mine.

One of the things that always amazes me about you, DF, is that you are honest enough about our history to admit things like that. I don’t need a whole hand to count the conservatives I’ve known that I can say that about. Keep it up. We need honesty on all sides to make this mess better.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 9:17:56pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

The militia nutjob fascination with full auto is a hoot. Spray-and-pray depends on a long, rich, logistics chain. The Garand is probably the best thing that could ever be fed if their fever dreams came true.

That’s how you tell those who are really serious in an irregular force from the wannabes, noobs, and fools: The people who are really serious understand the importance of properly storing, transporting, and conserving ammunition.

Dark_Falcon Aug 3, 2015 • 9:26:38pm

re: #50 William Lewis

Bolding mine.

One of the things that always amazes me about you, DF, is that you are honest enough about our history to admit things like that. I don’t need a whole hand to count the conservatives I’ve known that I can say that about. Keep it up. We need honesty on all sides to make this mess better.

Thank you for that.

gwangung Aug 3, 2015 • 9:33:42pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Yup….old….but not THAT old….

(And ya know….the wing nuts will insist on lecturing you on these things, even though you know way the hell more than they do on it)

The War TARDIS Aug 3, 2015 • 10:01:19pm

Feeling worried, but alot less panicked.

Imam said he would help (considering situation, I need to get him in contact with Mom). Already applied to 2 jobs. And I will never work in a call center again.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 10:32:47pm

As usual, some kids died at this shit-music festival. “Good times”? @JustinBieber: Good times boys. Thank you La. @Skrillex @diplo #hardfest

— Neil Hamburger (@NeilHamburger) August 4, 2015

@NeilHamburger @justinbieber @Skrillex @diplo Ü are bitter and don't get it

— SpasemaN (@Spaseman) August 4, 2015

You are a drug-fucked pig, wallowing in mud as bad, bad, bad, bad music generates money for the drug cartel. https://t.co/9O9kgEqhcG

— Neil Hamburger (@NeilHamburger) August 4, 2015

Neil Hamburger, man. That’s a pretty sick fucking burn.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 10:36:24pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

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Neil Hamburger, man. That’s a pretty sick fucking burn.

One wonders how many martini’s or manhattans he consumed prior to his stick-up-ass moment of glory.

Actually, I’ll hope he did have some. He’s without any hope of repentance otherwise.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:00:05pm

re: #56 William Lewis

Gregg Turkington (aka Neil Hamburger) has been a vegan for over 20 years, I doubt he’s a huge drinker. It’s a persona. It’s anti-comedy.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 11:01:27pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Gregg Turkington (aka Neil Hamburger) has been a vegan for over 20 years, I doubt he’s a huge drinker. It’s a persona. It’s anti-comedy.

Ah. Given that I’ll pass even faster than I was before as it makes even less sense to me.

TedStriker Aug 3, 2015 • 11:07:35pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Gregg Turkington (aka Neil Hamburger) has been a vegan for over 20 years, I doubt he’s a huge drinker. It’s a persona. It’s anti-comedy.

It’s the whole Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton thing, redux.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:08:39pm

re: #59 TedStriker

It’s the whole Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton thing, redux.

Andy Kaufman never had a Twitter account!

TedStriker Aug 3, 2015 • 11:10:12pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Andy Kaufman never had a Twitter account!

But, you know he’d been an early adopter of it, were he still alive.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:11:36pm

re: #61 TedStriker

But, you know he’d been an early adopter of it, were he still alive.

Oh yeah. Him, and Frank Zappa and Bill Hicks. There’s others.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 11:11:51pm

re: #59 TedStriker

It’s the whole Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton thing, redux.

I was around for the whole of Andy Kaufman. I found him deadly dull at best and violence inducing at worst. And don’t get me started on the Mighty Mouse garbage…

Ahem. I never found his gig funny. Shrug. Guess I’m a bad liberal.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:13:10pm

re: #63 William Lewis

Shrug. Guess I’m a bad liberal.

Uh, no one said anything about “liberal” or liberalism.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 11:15:34pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

Uh, no one said anything about “liberal” or liberalism.

That was a tongue in cheek comment on my own generation. We were expected to like him back when he was on the first episode of SNL.

LastYearsMan Aug 3, 2015 • 11:19:49pm

I can’t remember ever laughing at Andy Kaufman either. Or otherwise being amused by him.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:20:37pm

re: #65 William Lewis

That was a tongue in cheek comment on my own generation. We were expected to like him back when he was on the first episode of SNL.

I find this difficult to discern. Every generation has their expectations? Forgive me for looking in to it too much. I think that’s a bunch of shit. The 60s generation were *expected* to be the most hip groovin’ generation and they’re a bunch of fuckin’ sellouts on the whole. And you can go on down the line with each generation, Gen X is *expected* to be lazy, Millenials are even more dead-beat. That’s a bunch of fuckin’ horse manure.

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:25:35pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I say all this not because I’m a fan of Andy Kaufman (I’m not, I think his shit is annoying, though he was “before my time”) but because wlewisiii had to make it about being liberal and what’s expected of your generation.

On that note…

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William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 11:26:39pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I find this difficult to discern. Every generation has their expectations? Forgive me for looking in to it too much. I think that’s a bunch of shit. The 60s generation were *expected* to be the most hip groovin’ generation and they’re a bunch of fuckin’ sellouts on the whole. And you can go on down the line with each generation, Gen X is *expected* to be lazy, Millenials are even more dead-beat. That’s a bunch of fuckin’ horse manure.

It’s hard to explain but, yeah, it was a peer pressure kind of thing. If it was on SNL in the first few seasons it was automatically “genius” and if you didn’t think it was funny something was wrong with you.

Mind you that’s only a tiny part of why I found the Punks a whole hell of a lot more interesting than anything else but it really was true for those of us in Jr & Sr High school in the mid to late 70’s.

You know that stupid “That 70’s Show” from a while back? We’ll to quote my guitar hero, “yes, I was there, too. And you know what they said? Well, some of it was true!”

teleskiguy Aug 3, 2015 • 11:32:09pm

LastYearsMan Aug 3, 2015 • 11:39:38pm

re: #69 William Lewis

It’s hard to explain but, yeah, it was a peer pressure kind of thing. If it was on SNL in the first few seasons it was automatically “genius” and if you didn’t think it was funny something was wrong with you.

Mind you that’s only a tiny part of why I found the Punks a whole hell of a lot more interesting than anything else

Funny, but how you describe feeling about SNL was how I felt about punk music, especially the Clash. The Clash would always be topping Rolling Stone best-whatever lists, and I had no idea how or why. Still don’t.

There’s always a certain amount of momentum in popular culture, and if you don’t agree with those trends, it can be strangely alienating.

William Lewis Aug 3, 2015 • 11:45:36pm

re: #71 LastYearsMan

Hmm. That is interesting. May I ask what kind of music you did then/do now consider the best? Also your age? As a big Clash fan, I’m more curious to see where/when it might swing your way as opposed to mine. Not sure what it would mean but more data is always fun to play with :D

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 3, 2015 • 11:50:30pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

Can’t help notice that the older man has his finger away from the trigger, and the younger man has his finger on the trigger. Probably holds around the world.

LastYearsMan Aug 3, 2015 • 11:55:06pm

re: #72 William Lewis

Musically, I’m all over the map. Love Leonard Cohen (hence the user name), but also love Bach, 50s jazz, Tom Waits, Afrobeat and Joy Division (or, for more recent rock, Japandroids). Just went through a bit Steve Reich phase, but EDM/pop amuses me, too. I’m in my 40s.

For some reason, punk never did it for me. Old ska is probably as close as I get to punk. No idea why.

Shiplord Kirel Aug 4, 2015 • 12:15:56am

Sheesh! Smoke alarm just woke me up. Checked the house, can’t find anything wrong. Probably won’t go back to sleep for a while.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 4, 2015 • 12:30:48am

re: #1 Kragar

Waiting to hear all about how these guys were a group of lone wolves and all secret liberals.

I wonder what video games and music pushed them into doing this.

They were driven to do it by Liberal Hatred for America.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 4, 2015 • 12:38:22am

re: #63 William Lewis

I was around for the whole of Andy Kaufman. I found him deadly dull at best and violence inducing at worst. And don’t get me started on the Mighty Mouse garbage…

Ahem. I never found his gig funny. Shrug. Guess I’m a bad liberal.

I never got the “totally edgy” thing. I prefer a different form of craftsmanship in comedy writing and performance.

And there was a lot of SNL humor that just wasn’t funny unless you were stoned off your nut, which was also expected of that generation.

I like a lot of Steve Martin’s acting, but I found most of his SNL stuff pretty tedious, too. Even King Tut after the first time.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 4, 2015 • 12:43:08am

re: #74 LastYearsMan

Musically, I’m all over the map. Love Leonard Cohen (hence the user name), but also love Bach, 50s jazz, Tom Waits, Afrobeat and Joy Division (or, for more recent rock, Japandroids). Just went through a bit Steve Reich phase, but EDM/pop amuses me, too. I’m in my 40s.

For some reason, punk never did it for me. Old ska is probably as close as I get to punk. No idea why.

Miles Davis and his stable of musicians in the late 60’s and early 70’s represent the paragon of American Music to me.

Not the only thing I like, but to me that is the Gold Standard.

Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 12:44:02am

…

KiTA Aug 4, 2015 • 1:11:14am

Applied for Xerox, doing work from home tech support stuff. I presume that Xerox runs some sort of outsourcing company. (Edit: Yup. Xerox Sevices.)

It’s one of my least appealing options for work, I am very tired of doing phone support, but it’ll pay the rent until I find something better.

Jayleia Aug 4, 2015 • 4:31:26am

Just a minor aside about the “cuckservative” thing:

It apparently comes from a kind of pornography known as “cuck,” in which a white husband, either in shame or lust, watches his wife be taken by a black man.

This is not entirely accurate, cuckoldry only needs a husband, wife and someone else she is seeing on the side. However, the interracial aspects have become so common in modern use, that the BW interracial element is almost synonymous.

However, the cuckservative crap is implicitly, and explicitly racist as it is being used now.

Jay the Pervy Dictionary-person

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 4, 2015 • 4:47:27am

re: #81 Jayleia

It is symptomatic of this attention-seeking race to the bottom that the GOP has spun into.

The moderate and somewhat educated elements within the party could not bring themselves to refute or at least distance themselves from people who came up with such utterances for fear of alienating their base.

As a result it became clear that there was no limit to what sort of crass, racist, sexist, simplistic statements people could get away with without being taken to task for it.

The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 4:50:33am

War Tardis, you said you will never work at another call center, but what about web-based solution center?

Jayleia Aug 4, 2015 • 4:50:33am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The moderate republicans made their beds of floor-poop, they get to lie in them.

aagcobb Aug 4, 2015 • 4:55:37am

re: #28 Belafon

Has there been any interpretation that says that the purpose of the second amendment is meant to give people the ability to protect against the government? Because an interpretation like that would open up the ability to own fighter jets, tanks, missiles and nuclear weapons.

Its utter nonsense, as the language of the Constitution makes clear. The Second Amendment clearly states its reason is because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, and one of Congress’s powers is to call up state militias to suppress rebellion. So the insane notion that the founding fathers included the 2nd Amendment to support rebellion against the very government the Constitution established is the exact opposite of what the Constitution actually says.

Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 5:22:07am

Dear Hollywood,
STOP THE TEAL & ORANGE BULLSHIT!

Thanks,
My eyes.

Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 5:28:13am

re: #85 aagcobb

Its utter nonsense, as the language of the Constitution makes clear. The Second Amendment clearly states its reason is because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, and one of Congress’s powers is to call up state militias to suppress rebellion. So the insane notion that the founding fathers included the 2nd Amendment to support rebellion against the very government the Constitution established is the exact opposite of what the Constitution actually says.

You might point that out to justices Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and Alito.

Patricia Kayden Aug 4, 2015 • 5:43:11am

re: #1 Kragar

Waiting to hear all about how these guys were a group of lone wolves and all secret liberals.

I wonder what video games and music pushed them into doing this.

Gangsta rap. You just know it.

The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 5:45:11am

Trump has some deranged batshit supporters

TRUMP SURGES - takes double digit lead in GOP presidential race @MichaelCohen212 @realDonaldTrump Jerome Corsi

— Jerome Corsi (@jerome_corsi) August 4, 2015

Nyet Aug 4, 2015 • 5:45:32am

re: #81 Jayleia

The kinds of things I learn at LGF.
half-/

Nyet Aug 4, 2015 • 5:46:25am

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

Trump didn’t even need much cross, flag-wrapping was enough.

Romantic Heretic Aug 4, 2015 • 5:47:39am

re: #21 gocart mozart

To whoever wrote that comment,

Buddy? Do you know how much an M1 costs? Do you know how much it costs to maintain? Do know how much fuel it guzzles?

Where are you going to get that sort of money?

Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 5:47:56am

Dear Philadelphia, Please treat The Pope better than #hitchBOT, mkay? Thanks, The Rest of America. http://t.co/16XzOpirYT

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 4, 2015

Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 5:48:15am

But will he play chess with a White Walker?

Max von Sydow joins Game of Thrones

theguardian.com

The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 5:48:53am

re: #91 Nyet

Trump didn’t even need much cross, flag-wrapping was enough.

Trump will slump among the religious nutbags, he’s not Jesusy enough

Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 5:50:14am

re: #92 Romantic Heretic

To whoever wrote that comment,

Buddy? Do you know how much an M1 costs? Do you know how much it costs to maintain? Do know how much fuel it guzzles?

Where are you going to get that sort of money?

GoFundMe. (Runs about 3 gal/mi the last I looked.)

FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 5:51:48am

Semper Paratus

Happy 225th Birthday to the @uscoastguard!!! #CG225th #225th #USCG pic.twitter.com/QDxyeCXkUS

— U.S. Dept of Defense (@DeptofDefense) August 4, 2015

Nyet Aug 4, 2015 • 5:52:18am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

Trump will slump among the religious nutbags, he’s not Jesusy enough

If he’s xenophobic enough, that crowd might just mistake that for Jesusness.

The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 5:53:26am

re: #98 Nyet

If he’s xenophobic enough, that crowd might just mistake that for Jesusness.

Trump’s daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism. That might earn him some points with the pro-Israel crowd.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 5:54:42am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

You tell the pope not to hang out in alleys at 2am on Saturday and we’ll take care of the rest.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 5:55:25am

re: #100 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I still think the guy thought it was an early model Terminator.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 5:56:00am

re: #101 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I still think the guy thought it was an early model Terminator.

Or a Mets fan.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 5:56:15am

re: #92 Romantic Heretic

I hear it shoots big bullets.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 5:59:24am

Eventually, as it made its way around the world, somebody named Sarah Connor was going to cross its path, and then

…

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 5:59:58am

Conservatives, remind us again how #WhitePrivilege and #Racism do not exist? pic.twitter.com/xLBduKWXwc

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 4, 2015

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:00:54am

re: #103 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I hear it shoots big bullets.

You can pick up the hurt-y part with one (gloved) hand.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 6:04:08am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

There won’t be any ballistics markings to incriminate you. Nobody would know you did the deed.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 6:05:57am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

Context is everything. The ladies probably had an expired registration sticker.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:11:01am

re: #107 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

There won’t be any ballistics markings to incriminate you. Nobody would know you did the deed.

Shared a cubicle with the health physicist who ran the open-air burn tests.

pica.army.mil

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FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 6:12:24am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

#WhitePrivilege
Georgia Code
TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 5 - CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON
ARTICLE 2 - ASSAULT AND BATTERY
§ 16-5-20 - Simple assault
(2) Commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 4, 2015 • 6:14:01am

re: #96 Decatur Deb

I made a token effort to look those things up but my Google fu is so weak I’d be hours trying to find it.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 6:16:08am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

I wonder how much one of them costs.

EDIT: around 10k/each.

bandepleteduranium.org

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:16:51am

re: #111 Romantic Heretic

I made a token effort to look those things up but my Google fu is so weak I’d be hours trying to find it.

Like the weight of the tank, it’s constantly changing. I stopped paying attention after DS.

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:17:38am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

Trump will slump among the religious nutbags, he’s not Jesusy enough

He will continue to do well enough right up until the first primaries/caucuses. Until then, he’s the GOP frontrunner and the rest of the extremists can only wallow in his shadow.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:19:17am

re: #112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I wonder how much one of them costs.

The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each. (wiki)

Militia dudes will have to work overtime at the car wash.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 6:21:33am

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

Trump has some deranged batshit supporters

Like Jerome Corsi? I figured he’d be all in on Ted Cruz.

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FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 6:22:23am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

The initial order for 2,501 M829E4 rounds in 2014 had a unit cost of $10,100 each. (wiki)

Militia dudes will have to work overtime at the car wash.

You can probably get some M829A1/2/3 rounds much cheaper

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Nyet Aug 4, 2015 • 6:23:13am

re: #116 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Like Jerome Corsi? I figured he’d be all in on Ted Cruz.

He prolly would have been, if a worse guy had not come along.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:23:39am

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

re: #116 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Like Jerome Corsi? I figured he’d be all in on Ted Cruz.

The question is, where do they go after he implodes? Most will probably wind up with Cruz, some to Walker, none to Bush.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:26:06am

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

You can probably get some M829A1/2/3 rounds much cheaper

It’s really tricky to set a real price, when the R&D has to be cooked in. Odd to think that every bang we heard at Ft. Knox could be a college semester going downrange.

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Bird in the Paw Aug 4, 2015 • 6:28:28am

Well, the M1A2 Abrams will cost them $6.2 million (according to my brief search); $10k/round is chump change

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:28:55am

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

Why confine yourself to ground pounding, when you can go get a surplus fighter or bomber from the boneyard. Heck, even the F-117s are retired at this point and you could bring the noise and the funk with that. Forget black helicopters. //

The whole notion that an individual should be imbued with the same weapons as the government is nuts. Even in colonial times, individuals didn’t have cannon, which were the largest and most sophisticated weapons in land combat at the time. The best they could do is obtain rifles that met or exceeded those used in armies of the day.

Today? There’s no way any individual could or should have access to the weapons used in a modern military. Stealth aircraft, tanks, APCs, mobile artillery, MLRS, helicopters, bombers, submarines, aircraft carriers, or even destroyers or cruisers (and let’s not even get started with BBs).

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:30:13am

re: #121 Bird in the Paw

Well, the M1A2 Abrams will cost them $6.2 million; $10k/round is chump change

Does that include the Corinthian leather package?

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:34:06am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

No, but I do believe that includes the extra heavy duty off-road package, and environmental protection package.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 6:34:09am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

How about a DVD player for the kids in the back.

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:37:35am

Donald Trump - misogynist extremist who seeks to deprive millions of health care, just like rest of #GOP field https://t.co/P0KQ56K66Y

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 4, 2015

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:37:56am

re: #125 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

How about a DVD player for the kids in the back.

Video is standard.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 6:37:59am

Gotta hand it to Trump about this, though:

After weeks of preparing for a smash-mouth debate with Donald J. Trump, 14 Republican candidates found themselves instead Trump-less but sandwiched into a constricting format on Monday night, delivering strikingly uneven performances just days before the first big test of the presidential primary contest.

Rather than making the other contenders look more presidential, however, the event, at St. Anselm College in Manchester, N.H., seemed to shrink the candidates. Assembled in the front row, the Republicans gawked as each rival took his or her turn on stage, looking at times as if they were being forced to sit through a tedious school assembly.

In Mr. Trump’s absence — he skipped the event, saying it was not worth his time — the candidates filled two hours with credentials and boasts that he could not match. They touted their experience balancing big state budgets (Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio), their military service (Mr. Graham) and their middle-class roots (Carly Fiorina.)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 6:39:53am

re: #128 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Rather than making the other contenders look more presidential, however, the event, at St. Anselm College in Manchester, N.H., seemed to shrink the candidates. Assembled in the front row, the Republicans gawked as each rival took his or her turn on stage, looking at times as if they were being forced to sit through a tedious school assembly.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 4, 2015 • 6:39:55am

re: #122 lawhawk

Just had this scenario flash through my mind.

Destroyer Captain: Fire the Harpoon missiles.

Wingnut: I don’t have to. I won’t support tyranny. Freedom!

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Romantic Heretic Aug 4, 2015 • 6:40:42am

re: #127 Decatur Deb

Video is standard.Embedded Image

Man, the commander’s cupolas are a lot roomier than I thought.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:40:54am

re: #130 Romantic Heretic

Just had this scenario flash through my mind.

Destroyer Captain: Fire the Harpoon missiles.

Wingnut: I don’t have to. I won’t support tyranny. Freedom!

That’s the core of the Oathkeeper fantasy.

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FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 6:41:40am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

It’s really tricky to set a real price, when the R&D has to be cooked in. Odd to think that every bang we heard at Ft. Knox could be a college semester going downrange.

Yeah, but almost all of those bangs would be training rounds, like the M831A1 instead of standard HEAT ammunition, and the M865 replacing sabot rounds

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:43:41am

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, but almost all of those bangs would be training rounds, like the M831A1 instead of standard HEAT ammunition, and the M865 replacing sabot rounds

Yeah. We don’t fire DU in CONUS any more, too pricey to clean up.

(A semester at UofL was $600 in my Knox days.)

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:47:13am

re: #128 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They touted their experience balancing big state budgets (Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio)

They have to balance budgets. It’s required under their state constitutions (see Wisconsin and Ohio). They can’t produce a budget that isn’t balanced.

How they balanced it is a different question - and for that, they chose to gut safety net programs, education, etc., to keep the money flowing to pet projects, like keeping billionaires happy (and not moving their sports team from Milwaukee for instance), and yet curiously, WI spent more each year than the rate of inflation during Walker’s term.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 6:47:56am

re: #135 lawhawk

They have to balance budgets. It’s required under their state constitutions (see Wisconsin and Ohio). They can’t produce a budget that isn’t balanced.

How they balanced it is a different question - and for that, they chose to gut safety net programs, education, etc., to keep the money flowing to pet projects, like keeping billionaires happy (and not moving their sports team from Milwaukee for instance), and yet curiously, WI spent more each year than the rate of inflation during Walker’s term.

Yeah, states aren’t also fighting wars, etc.

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FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 6:48:16am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Yeah. We don’t fire DU in CONUS any more, too pricey to clean up.

And, canister would likely serve your average militia well enough against police cars and rampaging illegal immigrants

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 6:48:42am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

It’s really tricky to set a real price, when the R&D has to be cooked in. Odd to think that every bang we heard at Ft. Knox could be a college semester going downrange.

Deb, what years were you at Fort Knox? I had a brother that was there in ‘66, ‘67 or so. I remember going down there from Ohio to visit in mid ‘66.

By the way…seeing the video of Tsar Bomba in Steve’s #104 made me go to Wiki to do some basic reading on that test. Damn! I don’t think I ever heard the details of how large a bomb that really was. That test had to send some messages around the world and I would think even the Soviets would have had to wonder where all of it was headed.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:52:28am

re: #138 ObserverArt

Deb, what years were you at Fort Knox? I had a brother that was there in ‘66, ‘67 or so. I remember going down there from Ohio to visit in mid ‘66.

By the way…seeing the video of Tsar Bomba in Steve’s #104 made me go to Wiki to do some basic reading on that test. Damn! I don’t think I ever heard the details of how large a bomb that really was. That test had to send some messages around the world and I would think even the Soviets would have had to wonder where all of it was headed.

Draftee there 65-67, Army Civilian intern at USATCA 76-78.

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 6:53:01am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Draftee there 65-67, Army Civilian intern at USATCA 76-78.

So…
There’s no gold there, right?
/

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 6:54:50am

re: #140 Varek Raith

Auric Goldfinger’s break-in was covered up.

Jade Helm is the effort to retrieve it. /

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 6:56:39am

re: #140 Varek Raith

So…
There’s no gold there, right?
/

There is amazing shit there, but we had nothing much to do with the Depository. The 194th Armored Brigade did have a ‘Goldfinger’ role.

While I was there, they moved out the Hungarian crown jewels (and St. Stephens crown) to give back to the softening communist government.

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 6:58:01am

re: #135 lawhawk

They have to balance budgets. It’s required under their state constitutions (see Wisconsin and Ohio). They can’t produce a budget that isn’t balanced.

How they balanced it is a different question - and for that, they chose to gut safety net programs, education, etc., to keep the money flowing to pet projects, like keeping billionaires happy (and not moving their sports team from Milwaukee for instance), and yet curiously, WI spent more each year than the rate of inflation during Walker’s term.

Talk to the mayors of many of Ohio’s cities how they feel about Kasich’s balanced budget. He cut state aid to just about everything and all the tax raising fell to the mayors to raise local sales taxes, property taxes and fees for just about everything. People may have thought Kasich was a wiz kid hero budget balance specialists but they still expected all the neat things like good schools, libraries, police departments and the money had to come from somewhere.

If people looked at their bottom lines, nothing changed and in some ways they had less…but they bought the Kasich BS.

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:00:40am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Draftee there 65-67, Army Civilian intern at USATCA 76-78.

Damn…you would have been on base same time as my brother. He was drafted in early ‘65 and spent basic at Fort Lee, Virginia, then he was sent to Fort Knox where he spent the remainder of his time.

Small world.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:01:45am

re: #55 teleskiguy

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Neil Hamburger, man. That’s a pretty sick fucking burn.

He’s right. Bieber’s music is shit.

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:02:31am

re: #144 ObserverArt

Damn…you would have been on base same time as my brother. He was drafted in early ‘65 and spent basic at Fort Lee, Virginia, then he was sent to Fort Knox where he spent the remainder of his time.

Small world.

Or…

HE IS YOUR BROTHER!

/WOOOEEEEOOOOO

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:03:47am

re: #145 darthstar

He’s right. Bieber’s music is shit.

Shit is offended at being compared to Bieber’s “music”

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:06:06am

re: #146 Varek Raith

Or…

HE IS YOUR BROTHER!

/WOOOEEEEOOOOO

Well, in some of our discussions we have come across some Ohio/Pittsburgh Catholic schoolboy, Slovak kinds of similarities. And Isaly’s Ice Cream!

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:06:59am

Shitty airline, but a smart move:

After Killing of #CeciltheLion, Delta Joins Airline Ban on Game Trophies http://t.co/ZuvQN52MpQ

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 4, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:07:41am

re: #149 Dr. Matt

Shitty airline, but a smart move:

[Embedded content]

Trophy collectors will just load their shit on their private jet.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:07:51am

KANGAROO VS. GOLF FLAGS, LET'S GO. (via @popovic_daniel): http://t.co/JiTBesNjDl pic.twitter.com/0dtHfDnJ8B

— SB Nation (@SBNation) August 4, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 7:08:21am

re: #149 Dr. Matt

Shitty airline, but a smart move:

Hurr hurr but why won’t airplanes ban PP doctors who sell the baby parts!!??!!??!

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Michael McBacon Aug 4, 2015 • 7:08:45am

But the guy in the middle has dreadlocks. They’re liberals!

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urbanmeemaw Aug 4, 2015 • 7:09:02am

re: #1 Kragar

Waiting to hear all about how these guys were a group of lone wolves and all secret liberals.

I wonder what video games and music pushed them into doing this.

Did anyone see this story covered on TV? I didn’t see any stories, but I could have missed them.

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:09:36am

re: #151 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Heh.
Seems to have issues with flags.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:09:38am

re: #148 ObserverArt

Well, in some of our discussions we have come across some Ohio/Pittsburgh Catholic schoolboy, Slovak kinds of similarities. And Isaly’s Ice Cream!

Meeting an Italian near Venice:

“Where are you from?”
“Pittsburgh and New York.”
“Do you know my cousin from Brooklyn?”

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Mattand Aug 4, 2015 • 7:10:23am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

Dear Philadelphia,

Please treat The Pope better than #hitchBOT, mkay?

Thanks,
The Rest of America.

They’re not going to have any choice. The Secret Service is practically putting Center City under fucking martial law. It’s ridiculous.

I really feel for folks like Fearless Feline Lizard and Steve McGhazi. It will not surprise me to hear of people being arrested half a block from their homes for trying to get to a convenience store.

Best part? The Pope of the Poor is going to create more poor people while he’s here, because the people working minimum wage jobs downtown will literally be unable to get to work to make money.

Oh, and part of the pope’s speech will be about the need for religious liberty. Yeah, ‘cause if there’s one thing that Americans need to be told, it’s to embrace religion.

Sorry, the whole thing just pisses me off to no end. I was only 13 at the time, but I don’t remember Philly losing its shit like this when JP2 came to town in ‘79. And that capped off with a million person mass on the Ben Franklin Parkway.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:11:10am

Lesson learned.

Florida Man Accidentally Shoots 12-Year-Old Daughter in Arm While Trying to Teach Her About Gun Safety http://t.co/4giDIKjrzP

— Florida Man (@_FloridaMan) August 4, 2015

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:11:41am

re: #155 Varek Raith

Heh.
Seems to have issues with flags.

Many golfers feel the same way.

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:12:02am

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Trophy collectors will just load their shit on their private jet.

Perhaps. But it’s no trivial cost. A private jet can cost even more than the trip itself.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:12:23am

“I'm a Catholic, but I've Used Birth Control & Not Just the Rhythm Kind.” 1 guy's reaction to @GovChristie's comment: pic.twitter.com/aHs61GiukH

— Matt Katz (@mattkatz00) August 4, 2015

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:13:37am

There’s a facepalm that will get a bit of play before Thursday. Heh.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:13:45am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Meeting an Italian near Venice:

“Where are you from?”
“Pittsburgh and New York.”
“Do you know my cousin from Brooklyn?”

Zedushka meets an English-speaking couple in Prague.
“So you’re from the UK?”
“Originally but we live in Canada now.”
“Oh my son lives in Toronto. His name is []”
“There’s a family named [] on our street. They have like a million kids.”
“Yeah that’s him.”

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FormerDirtDart Aug 4, 2015 • 7:14:00am

re: #151 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Well played Mr. Gopher, well played…

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CriticalDragon1177 Aug 4, 2015 • 7:15:48am

Charles Johnson,

So glad these sickos were arrested before they were able to carry out their plans.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:17:49am

Apologies in advance to anyone who clicks. Safe for work…Safe for breakfast? that’s for you to decide.

Click to Reveal

“I'm a Catholic but I've used birth control — and not just the rhythm method,” Christie said. http://t.co/NzCiajqc2Z pic.twitter.com/H1uW4zxcdM

— Rich Feloni (@RichFeloni) August 4, 2015

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:18:15am

Okay…gotta move my ass today…be good everyone.

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:18:31am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

Shit is offended at being compared to Bieber’s “music”

Is he even a thing any more? I don’t come across much about him on the ‘net like a couple years back. He doesn’t seem to be able to transition from kid star to anything adult.

Then, that might not be a bad thing.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:19:45am

re: #168 ObserverArt

Is he even a thing any more? I don’t come across much about him on the ‘net like a couple years back. He doesn’t seem to be able to transition from kid star to anything adult.

Then, that might not be a bad thing.

Justin and Miley look like twins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:20:49am

Ky. sheriff asks drug dealers to turn in rivals

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) —A Kentucky sheriff’s office has posted a flyer on its Facebook page asking drug dealers to turn in their rivals.

Multiple media outlets report the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office posted the flyer Monday afternoon. It features an image of a marijuana leaf and says, “Is your drug dealing competition costing you money? We offer a free service to help you eliminate your drug competition!”

Franklin County Sheriff Pat Melton says the post is funny, but the sheriff’s department is not joking around.

At the bottom of the letter, people are asked to fill out information about the drug dealer they are reporting, including the dealer’s name and vehicle.

Melton says he got the idea from the McIntosh County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia.

As of Tuesday morning, the post had 394 online shares.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:20:49am

re: #135 lawhawk

Bobby Jindal claimed to have shrunk the Louisiana state budget by 26%. True, Louisiana’s 2009 budget came in at 26% less than projected. It’s also true that the projected budget included anticipated federal hurricane recovery aid and stimulus spending. The hurricane season was mild and some stimulus programs ended so Louisiana received far less in federal funds than projected. The missing federal funds amounted to, wait for it, 26% of Louisiana’s projected budget.

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Bird in the Paw Aug 4, 2015 • 7:21:25am

re: #166 darthstar

Apologies in advance to anyone who clicks. Safe for work…Safe for breakfast? that’s for you to decide.

[Embedded content]

You did warn, but, *shudder*

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 7:22:01am

re: #171 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And in a relatively poor state, shrinking the government budget shouldn’t be seen as a positive. But, that’s where we are….

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Dr Lizardo Aug 4, 2015 • 7:23:28am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Meeting an Italian near Venice:

“Where are you from?”
“Pittsburgh and New York.”
“Do you know my cousin from Brooklyn?”

Buying a döner kebab in Berlin:

Kebab shop owner (in English): ” I can tell you’re not German from your accent. Where are you from?”

Me: Los Angeles, originally.

Kebab shop owner: “Oh! Then you must know my cousin who lives in Los Angeles! His name is Bülent!”

Me: *not sure what to say at this point*

True story. :D

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:23:40am

re: #166 darthstar

Apologies in advance to anyone who clicks. Safe for work…Safe for breakfast? that’s for you to decide.

[Embedded content]

re: #172 Bird in the Paw

You did warn, but, *shudder*

I am now convinced Christie should have smoked some pot. It might have chilled him out and cut down on the large amount of assholeness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:25:18am

Cute overload: 2 new red pandas born at @CincinnatiZoo http://t.co/aqy0qIxcfe pic.twitter.com/Q45QcsNgLH

— WCPO (@WCPO) August 3, 2015

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:25:53am

re: #157 Mattand

“really feel for folks like Fearless Feline Lizard and Steve McGhazi. It will not surprise me to hear of people being arrested half a block from their homes for trying to get to a convenience store.”

I appreciate your concern, but I got nothing to worry about. I’m white.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:27:36am

Stinky is needed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:27:55am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Yep. Looks like a bad one.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 4, 2015 • 7:28:09am

This is an obvious attempt to make the anti-Jade Helm FREEDOM FIGTERS look BAD!! I mean, just LOOK at those LOSERS— NOBODY BUT the GUMMINT would give them a JOB!!!1!!

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:28:22am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep. Looks like a bad one.

Re-incarnation.

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:28:46am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Stinky is needed.

Where?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:29:16am

re: #182 Varek Raith

Where?

hatchling not logged in yet.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:30:00am

re: #182 Varek Raith

Where?

Hatchling. Didn’t come for the fellowship.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:30:07am

dammmm…another one for Stinky

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:32:30am

Toxic puffer fish

Editorial Cartoon: De-Bait http://t.co/AzRITjEQIM #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/aXbCGtmSo2

— The Progressive Mind (@Libertea2012) August 4, 2015

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Timothy Watson Aug 4, 2015 • 7:33:03am

Have I mentioned how much I hate Apple and iTunes? Took forever to uninstall 12.2 and install an old version (also had to uninstall every Apple program on my computer because the installer kept messing up) to get rid of the constant crashing in 12.2, also had to reimport my music because their iTunes library files (.itl) aren’t backwards compatible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:33:44am

and now a third one. Stinky is gonna be busy.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 4, 2015 • 7:34:17am

re: #150 The Vicious Babushka

Trophy collectors will just load their shit on their private jet.

Most trophy hunters are upper middle class and can’t afford a private jet.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:34:50am

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Most trophy hunters are upper middle class and can’t afford a private jet.

Oh! I haz a sads!

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:35:30am

The fifth video has dropped: https://t.co/I5v1XFzWO6 #PPSellsBabyParts

— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) August 4, 2015

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allegro Aug 4, 2015 • 7:35:54am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

and now a third one. Stinky is gonna be busy.

*looking around…. squinting…* What the heck are you guys looking at?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:35:58am

Was the restraining order lifted?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:36:37am

re: #192 allegro

*looking around…. squinting…* What the heck are you guys looking at?

In the Spy, somebody is registering new accounts with racist nics.

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allegro Aug 4, 2015 • 7:37:09am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

In the Spy, somebody is registering new accounts with racist nics.

Ohhhhh. Thanks.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:37:13am

It just logged in with the most horrific nic of all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:37:24am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

yep

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:37:55am

Now it’s downdinging on the dead thread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:37:55am

It’s downdinging downstairs

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De Kolta Chair Aug 4, 2015 • 7:38:14am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

True story. :D

;-) I’ve had several conversations in Ireland that went like this:

“Oh, you’re from America!”
“Yes, New York City.”
“Oh, really? What borough?”
“Manhattan.”
“Oh, lovely! What neighborhood?”
“City Hall.”
“OH! And the nearest intersection?”
“Duane and Broadway.”
“Oh that’s magic! My cousin Sean lives in the Bronx!”

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:39:15am

re: #187 Timothy Watson

NEVER update, unless you absolutely have to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:39:20am

oh good freaking grief.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:39:22am

Now it’s spamming the dead thread.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 4, 2015 • 7:40:55am

re: #177 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

“really feel for folks like Fearless Feline Lizard and Steve McGhazi. It will not surprise me to hear of people being arrested half a block from their homes for trying to get to a convenience store.”

I appreciate your concern, but I got nothing to worry about. I’m white.

That won’t matter when the Secret Service is involved. They may arrest anyone they see with a few miles of the pope who looks like a “militia type”. So don’t wear camo of any kind, for example.

The Secret Service is not like most law enforcement, and being white does not cut much ice with them. Remember that they also protect a black man whom nutcase white people want to kill.

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:41:02am

Subtle.
Real subtle.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:41:48am

Freaking lame.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:41:49am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

In the Spy, somebody is registering new accounts with racist nics.

I’m in spy mode now, for the first time, but where do you see people registering nics?

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:43:08am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

It just logged in with the most horrific nic of all.

Justinbieber?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:43:42am

DON’T DOWNDING IT! Then it will sweep the “Bottom 10”
Just report and let Stinky take the trash out when he gets here.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 4, 2015 • 7:44:03am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

No-there’s ways they can get around it, unfortunately.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:45:09am

“This too shall pass.”
—Complacent Proctologist

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:46:35am

Must be CCJ, considering all the poop on the floor.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:46:49am

Dana “Muhgunz!!” is Live-tweeting her viewing of the new video.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:47:38am

re: #212 Varek Raith

Must be CCJ, considering all the poop on the floor.

Seen worse in the Youtube comments on a kitten video.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 4, 2015 • 7:47:57am

re: #212 Varek Raith

Must be CCJ, considering all the poop on the floor.

That thought occurred to me as well.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 4, 2015 • 7:47:58am

re: #212 Varek Raith

Must be CCJ, considering all the poop on the floor.

Even he’s got better sense than to use the nic “[n-word]gravedigger”. This is someone even dumber than UpChuck.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 4, 2015 • 7:48:36am

In a basement somewhere:

“Clem, you downding upstairs and I’ll downding downstairs. They won’t know what hit ‘em!”

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 7:49:23am

This must be their idea of a “blitz” attack.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 4, 2015 • 7:49:39am

Stinky just took his wrench to the troll’s head and ban-clubbed the ugly thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 7:49:46am

welp, that one is now blocked. Three more to go.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:49:47am

re: #173 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And in a relatively poor state, shrinking the government budget shouldn’t be seen as a positive. But, that’s where we are….

Cost shifting isn’t budget cutting. If a governor thinks up ways to deliver the same level of state services that cost less through efficiency or something of the sort, that’s budget cutting. If a governor identifies programs that have outlived their purpose and cuts them, that’s budget cutting. Underfunding schools and state universities, infrastructure, health care, etc., just pushes those costs onto someone else - including future governors. Some problems are better solved by spending some money now so that you don’t have to spend a shit-ton of it later.

Ben Franklin captured these jokers perfectly. “Penny wise and pound foolish.”

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Varek Raith Aug 4, 2015 • 7:50:25am

…

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 7:54:07am

This is nature’s way of telling me to go out and finish screening the damn compost.

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ObserverArt Aug 4, 2015 • 7:54:55am

I gotta get busy too…later Lizards.

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 7:56:09am

Troll in the dungeon

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Eventual Carrion Aug 4, 2015 • 7:56:57am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ky. sheriff asks drug dealers to turn in rivals

Yeah Sgt. Stadanko, I want to turn in Billy. He sold me some shit last week that wouldn’t get a fly high!

Shut up you puke!

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 7:57:06am

Funny thought just popped into my head: I could go out today and buy a brand new, giant-ass, Class A diesel pusher motor home and I’d still have that paid off before we’ve finished paying off Bush’s war in Iraq.

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darthstar Aug 4, 2015 • 7:58:25am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

In the Spy, somebody is registering new accounts with racist nics.

Ah…that explains it…

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lawhawk Aug 4, 2015 • 7:59:03am

Institutional racism on display. https://t.co/lNyrq3SP7t

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 4, 2015

Alabama cop was recorded proposing to murder a black resident. City paid $35,000 to cover it up and he kept his job http://t.co/yjeK24tzSS

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) August 4, 2015

This is abhorrent stuff, and yet the cop and all those involved got to keep their jobs. This is the kind of thing that should result in departments being shut down for violating civil rights and other violations. But they aren’t.

It’s all part of institutional racism, and it persists.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 4, 2015 • 8:00:14am

re: #226 Eventual Carrion

Ky. sheriff asks drug dealers to turn in rivals

It’s almost like he wants to start a gang war. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:07:01am

Rand Paul is pathetic.

“Most of the stuff Planned Parenthood says they do - they really don’t do anyway.” - @RandPaul pic.twitter.com/ueQWq4y3FA

— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 4, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 8:07:13am

THIS EVIL COCKSUCKER==>

If Republicans in Congress can't stop “mandatory” spending, they don't know how Article 1 of the Constitution works.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 4, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Aug 4, 2015 • 8:08:10am

re: #225 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Stinky got him.

But the racists who coined “cuckservative” ended up doing what no others of their kind have done before. All sane people have long agreed such Stormfront types should shove their hateful rhetoric up their asses. but this time things have gone to a new level and an actual agreement to amend Obamacare has been reached:

It has been agreed that in order assist in the shoving the racists’ hate up their asses, Obamacare will mandate that insurance cover the cost of the lubricant that will ensure the shoving succeeds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:09:13am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

The troll still has two socks.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 8:10:33am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

THIS EVIL COCKSUCKER==>

Erick son of Erick must be bored with the PP videos. He’s talking about gubmit spending.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:10:53am

first sharks now gators RT @WNTonight: 7-foot alligator washes ashore on South Carolina beach: http://t.co/EsNPgUMBMB pic.twitter.com/y3YZrAu4mp

— Brent Watts (@wattsupbrent) August 3, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 8:11:18am

re: #229 lawhawk

This is abhorrent stuff, and yet the cop and all those involved got to keep their jobs. This is the kind of thing that should result in departments being shut down for violating civil rights and other violations. But they aren’t.

It’s all part of institutional racism, and it persists.

And how to solve this one? Yes, the cop, and all cops like him, should be fired. Unless you address the attitude of the chief of police who hired that cop and the attitude of the mayor who appointed the chief then there’s nothing to prevent one bad cop from being replaced by another.

Effectively addressing pervasive institutional racism requires a massive and expensive effort. Though I think that doing so would be one of the best possible uses of federal money, I’m not holding my breath.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 8:11:21am

re: #235 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Erick son of Erick must be bored with the PP videos. He’s talking about gubmit spending.

He’s fapping to the idea of total government shutdown & consequent anarchy

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Targetpractice Aug 4, 2015 • 8:12:40am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

He’s fapping to the idea of total government shutdown & consequent anarchy

Under the assumption that, when it happens, the public will come out even more vehemently against PP and Democrats who caused a shutdown to “protect” it.

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allegro Aug 4, 2015 • 8:12:54am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

The troll still has two socks.

Pretty pathetic that this is the most entertaining thing one can think of to spend their time. Are there no Tiddly Winks?

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Dr Lizardo Aug 4, 2015 • 8:14:04am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

SHARKGATOR!!

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allegro Aug 4, 2015 • 8:15:27am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Good to know there are guys right there to torture and kill it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 8:16:36am

re: #240 allegro

Pretty pathetic that this is the most entertaining thing one can think of to spend their time. Are there no Tiddly Winks?

Also thought we put in an order for better trolls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:18:05am

re: #243 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Also thought we put in an order for better trolls.

Summer replacements are usually pretty useless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:18:47am

Runaway Garbage Truck Takes Out Cars, Trash Cans In Pa. | http://t.co/YGLCSFecfs

— CBS Philly (@CBSPhilly) August 4, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 8:23:42am

Where are the trolls? Do we get to take turns figuratively smacking it in the face? Can I be next? Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please,…….

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Dr Lizardo Aug 4, 2015 • 8:25:22am

So, an arrest has been made in the arson attack in the West Bank that led to the death of a Palestinian toddler.

Israel said Tuesday it was interrogating the suspected head of a Jewish group, in the first arrest of an Israeli following last week’s arson attack in the West Bank that killed a Palestinian toddler and wounded his brother and parents.

According to the Shin Bet security agency, 23-year-old Meir Ettinger was arrested late Monday for “involvement in an extremist Jewish organization.”

The agency would not say if he is also suspected in the July 31 arson attack, but it has accused Ettinger of heading a movement seeking to bring about religious “redemption” through attacks on Palestinian-Christian sites and Palestinian homes.

The Palestinian toddler was burned to death a day after an anti-gay ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed a 16-year-old Jewish girl during a rampage against marchers at Jerusalem’s gay pride parade. The teenage girl later died.

What jumped out at me was this little snippet:

Israeli media have dubbed Ettinger the Shin Bet’s “No. 1” most wanted attacker. He has been arrested several times before and banned from the West Bank. Ettinger is the grandson of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, an ultra-nationalist whose work has influenced anti-Palestinian, Jewish militant groups and whose party was banned from Israel’s parliament for its racist views in 1988. Kahane was killed by an Arab gunman in 1990.

america.aljazeera.com

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sagehen Aug 4, 2015 • 8:28:24am

re: #237 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Effectively addressing pervasive institutional racism requires a massive and expensive effort. Though I think that doing so would be one of the best possible uses of federal money, I’m not holding my breath.

It wouldn’t be that expensive; all it takes is for people to want to.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 4, 2015 • 8:30:52am

re: #247 Dr Lizardo

If he were alive today, Meir Kahane would be considered a moderate conservative.

250

Charles Johnson Aug 4, 2015 • 8:40:54am

Racist troll has now registered 6 accounts.

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 8:45:36am

re: #250 Charles Johnson

Racist troll has now registered 6 accounts.

One of the stalker blog denigrates or @jokeocracy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:49:16am

Rand Paul does NOT like you brining up his meeting with Cliven Bundy at ALL. Prickly! https://t.co/u9xZKwlsPc

— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) August 4, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 8:52:35am

Planned Parenthood execs suspect arson after suspicious fire at site of new facility in New Orleans http://t.co/1yZM1l6hDm

— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 4, 2015

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Deez Nuts for President Aug 4, 2015 • 8:53:28am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This is how it begins.

I’m really glad my nurse friend who works part-time at PP is going on vacation for the next couple weeks.

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Dr. Matt Aug 4, 2015 • 8:55:19am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Planned Parenthood execs suspect arson after suspicious fire at site of new facility in New Orleans
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 4, 2015

From yesterday:

303 Dr. Matt
8/03/2015 9:35:36 am PDT
It’s only a matter of time before another right-wing terrorist acts out over the fake Planned Parenthood outrage. And as usual, no one will be held accountable except the victim(s).

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Teukka Aug 4, 2015 • 8:57:46am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Isn’t that contempt of court outright given the TRO?

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William Lewis Aug 4, 2015 • 8:58:35am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That’s why they should have armed guards equipped with night vision scopes. That would give the freaks an appropriate surprise.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 8:59:43am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

#PJNET #RedNationRising #UniteRight #ORPUW #TCOT #CCOT #TGDN #Teahadist #WakeUpAmerica #DefundPlannedParenhood pic.twitter.com/plNbvIwQv4

— Carlos Bardeguez (@bardeguezc) August 4, 2015

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Targetpractice Aug 4, 2015 • 9:00:43am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

And the morons who are now pointing to those free clinics are ignoring that the clinics largely exist because of the ACA that they declared “socialism” and have demanded be totally repealed for years now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 9:02:17am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

There is no free clinic in my county and our poverty rate is about 30%.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:04:09am

re: #237 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And how to solve this one? Yes, the cop, and all cops like him, should be fired. Unless you address the attitude of the chief of police who hired that cop and the attitude of the mayor who appointed the chief then there’s nothing to prevent one bad cop from being replaced by another.

Effectively addressing pervasive institutional racism requires a massive and expensive effort. Though I think that doing so would be one of the best possible uses of federal money, I’m not holding my breath.

re: #229 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

This is abhorrent stuff, and yet the cop and all those involved got to keep their jobs. This is the kind of thing that should result in departments being shut down for violating civil rights and other violations. But they aren’t.

It’s all part of institutional racism, and it persists.

re: #248 sagehen

It wouldn’t be that expensive; all it takes is for people to want to.

This is really going to sound weird, but that’s probably not the bad cop in town. Ya’ gotta be here.

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Charles Johnson Aug 4, 2015 • 9:04:29am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

No way to know for sure but I suspect the latter.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 4, 2015 • 9:04:35am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

TWITTER GULAG DEFENSE NETWORK!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:04:42am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is no free clinic in my county and our poverty rate is about 30%.

And in many places where there are free clinics, those are Planned Parenthood clinics.

Last week I had wingnuts all up in my timeline like HURR HURR WHY DON’T THEY JUST GO TO A OBAMACARE CLINIC!!!11!!!

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Targetpractice Aug 4, 2015 • 9:05:10am

It’s like I noted yesterday, the “alternatives” that the wingnuts are now saying exist so that defunding Planned Parenthood won’t matter are either A) dependent on qualifying for Medicaid, B) exist because of the ACA that wingnuts want gone, or C) are Christian brainwashing centers that provide no services beyond guilt-tripping girls into carrying to term.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:06:12am

re: #265 Targetpractice

C) are Christian brainwashing centers that provide no services beyond guilt-tripping girls into carrying to term.

But don’t pay for any prenatal care, labor or delivery.

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Franklin Aug 4, 2015 • 9:07:05am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

Last week I had wingnuts all up in my timeline like HURR HURR WHY DON’T THEY JUST GO TO A OBAMACARE CLINIC!!!11!!!

Exactly. Just dial 9-1-2 from your Obamaphone for directions.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 9:07:37am

re: #248 sagehen

It wouldn’t be that expensive; all it takes is for people to want to.

Ideally, it would be done by the voters of the cities and counties. That hasn’t happened to anywhere near the extent that it should. One of my town’s former chiefs told me that communities usually get pretty much the kind of policing that they want.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:07:46am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

But don’t pay for any prenatal care, labor or delivery.

The one down the street provides a nice basket of disposable diapers and other baby products.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:08:12am

re: #268 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ideally, it would be done by the voters of the cities and counties. That hasn’t happened to anywhere near the extent that it should. One of my town’s former chiefs told me that communities usually get pretty much the kind of policing that they want.

Ta-Da.

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Lidane Aug 4, 2015 • 9:11:17am

So Fox News in on the teevee here at work, thankfully on mute. Their current screaming chryon: FOX NEWS POLL: CLINTON HITS NEW LOW AS 51% SAY THEY’D VOTE FOR HER

Her “new low” is still a majority in their poll and they’re concern trolling about whether or not she should be worried. WTF.

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Teukka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:11:26am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

But don’t pay for any prenatal care, labor or delivery.

re: #269 Decatur Deb

The one down the street provides a nice basket of disposable diapers and other baby products.

The finnish state pays for one of these for each new mother.
Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes
One of these was my crib for my first couple of months.

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makeitstop Aug 4, 2015 • 9:12:37am

I’m gobsmacked right now. I just ran out to get lunch for me and the wife and had 1010WINS news on the radio.

They reported a shooting last night in Brooklyn, where a 19 year old woman was shot and lost - quoting here - ‘her 4 month old unborn baby.’

WTF? That’s how insidious letting the pro-force crowd frame the terms is. A freakin’ fetus is now suddenly four months old.

I hate the goddamned ‘liberal media.’

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Bird in the Paw Aug 4, 2015 • 9:14:10am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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It’s also a really bad meme, I had to read it a number of times before I understood what it was attempting to imply. Or, does that just prove that memes are, in effect, preaching to the choir?

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:14:53am

re: #272 Teukka

The finnish state pays for one of these for each new mother.
Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes
One of these was my crib for my first couple of months.

When my mother brought my half-sister home, we emptied a dresser drawer that was about waist-height.

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Targetpractice Aug 4, 2015 • 9:14:56am

re: #271 Lidane

So Fox News in on the teevee here at work, thankfully on mute. Their current screaming chryon: FOX NEWS POLL: CLINTON HITS NEW LOW AS 51% SAY THEY’D VOTE FOR HER

Her “new low” is still a majority in their poll and they’re concern trolling about whether or not she should be worried. WTF.

Last I checked, she’s still beating any potential GOP challenger, so why exactly would she be worried?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 9:15:37am

re: #272 Teukka

The finnish state pays for one of these for each new mother.
Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes
One of these was my crib for my first couple of months.

It would be beneficent if our own government spent money on things like this and made the Air Force work two part-time jobs.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:15:51am

re: #276 Targetpractice

Last I checked, she’s still beating any potential GOP challenger, so why exactly would she be worried?

There is one valid Dem worry—complacency.

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Lidane Aug 4, 2015 • 9:17:04am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

There is one valid Dem worry—complacency.

Which is why I hope the Dems run aggressive GOTV and voter registration drives between now and next November.

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Targetpractice Aug 4, 2015 • 9:17:06am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

There is one valid Dem worry—complacency.

True enough.

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Teukka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:19:41am

re: #277 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It would be beneficent if our own government spent money on things like this and made the Air Force work two part-time jobs.

These boxes are so cheap that they probably wouldn’t need to change the budget much, as the benefits would pay for themselves further down the road.
That’s how cheap some *beeep*s are…
*smh*

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:19:46am

re: #274 Bird in the Paw

It’s also a really bad meme, I had to read it a number of times before I understood what it was attempting to imply. Or, does that just prove that memes are, in effect, preaching to the choir?

All these memes look like some intern at AFP was given a CD of lame ‘50’s illustrations, talking points and Photoshop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 9:20:21am

heh

Yes, @redsteeze. Is there something wrong with your vagina?

— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) August 4, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:21:41am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Is “Stephen Miller” Chucky’s new used Twitter toy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 4, 2015 • 9:21:58am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Is “Stephen Miller” Chucky’s new used Twitter toy?

That’s what I hear.

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Charles Johnson Aug 4, 2015 • 9:25:01am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Is “Stephen Miller” Chucky’s new used Twitter toy?

I don’t think so. I checked through his timeline and I’m not getting that distinctive Chucky odor.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:26:01am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

I don’t think so. I checked through his timeline and I’m not getting that distinctive Chucky odor.

A good mop man and some Lysol can work wonders.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 4, 2015 • 9:26:12am

re: #281 Teukka

These boxes are so cheap that they probably wouldn’t need to change the budget much, as the benefits would pay for themselves further down the road.
That’s how cheap some *beeep*s are…
*smh*

Sad and true. Conservatives lack of empathy for anyone but themselves precludes their understanding how much things like these starter kits, or Head Start for that matter, change people’s lives for the better in ways that save fortunes in remediation.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 9:27:06am

re: #288 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Sad and true. Conservatives lack of empathy for anyone but themselves precludes their understanding how much things like these starter kits, or Head Start for that matter, change people’s lives for the better in ways that save fortunes in remediation.

Saves nothing if you don’t intend to remediate.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 4, 2015 • 9:36:16am

re: #275 Decatur Deb

When my mother brought my half-sister home, we emptied a dresser drawer that was about waist-height.

I was told that when I was real little, that is where I would sleep when at grandma’s since she didn’t have a crib. Secure, comfy, I’m sure I loved it.

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Teukka Aug 4, 2015 • 9:40:43am

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Saves nothing if you don’t intend to remediate.

Saves nothing if the savings you make leads to increased costs, costs an order of magnitude biggger, further down the road.

A false saving, all because you don’t understand the concept of externalities.

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Decatur Deb Aug 4, 2015 • 10:04:52am

re: #291 Teukka

Saves nothing if the savings you make leads to increased costs, costs an order of magnitude biggger, further down the road.

A false saving, all because you don’t understand the concept of externalities.

This is not some profound misunderstanding. The decisionmakers are content to let the impact of their savings fall on the broad powerless mass of ‘others’.

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Mattand Aug 4, 2015 • 10:06:20am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

That won’t matter when the Secret Service is involved. They may arrest anyone they see with a few miles of the pope who looks like a “militia type”. So don’t wear camo of any kind, for example.

The Secret Service is not like most law enforcement, and being white does not cut much ice with them. Remember that they also protect a black man whom nutcase white people want to kill.

LOL, I think the SS’s plan on protecting the Obamas has been called “Operation Hope Nothing Happens.” Between people firing shots into the White House’s private quarters; letting a knife-weilding maniac run around the WH’s ground floor; and letting an armed man on an elevator with Obama; they’ve gotten lucky.

I’m still partially convinced there’s some inside Tea Party/Freeper-type conservatives on the Secret Service who’ve been trying to purposely get him killed.

As for the Secret Service harassing civilians during the Popenedo? They may not do it, but the Philly PD will be more than happy to step into that role. Particularly if the person is black.

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