Fox News GOP Debate Open Thread: The Clown Car Also-Rans

As Trump steals all the oxygen
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Yes, it’s time for the GOP candidates who didn’t make the cut for the prime-time debate tonight to have their own sad mid-afternoon clown show. So here’s our first open thread to marvel at how many clowns can fit into that tiny GOP car of policy opinions.

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479 comments
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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:16:25pm

To add insult to injury, they asked the kid’s table about Trump. LOLOLOL

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bratwurst  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:18:18pm

15 minutes into the kids’ table debate and I have already had enough…going to be tough to make it to the REAL debate.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:19:01pm

Is anyone else as bored as I am so far?

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Teukka  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:19:06pm

Is this song somehow appropriate?
…

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:19:17pm
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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:20:06pm
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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:20:43pm

All I have seen so far is banging the war drum and bashing Obama and Clinton.

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elizajane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:20:49pm

Can it be true that you can only access the debates if you have a cable subscription to Fox? As one who has systematically avoided anything that might give money, however insubstantial an amount, to that network, now I am distressed.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:21:30pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:21:31pm

re: #3 LiberalGal

Is anyone else as bored as I am so far?

We sure have heard all this crap before. With all the delivery of a high school play.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:23:08pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

How does he propose to do that?

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:23:38pm

Is Rad-eee-cull Is?Lomm on the Bingo card Sleuth?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:23:43pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:23:45pm

re: #7 Tigger2

All I have seen so far is banging the war drum and bashing Obama and Clinton.

Everything’s terrible..America’s great.

/

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:24:10pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Bobby Jindal promised he’d kill him lots of them terrists.

But not as many as Lindsey Graham will!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:24:18pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Freedom of Religion. Less Government.

/

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:25:14pm

The set is ugly. The lighting is terrible. The audio’s not great.

I don’t understand why they’re broadcasting the tech rehearsals with these interns standing in for the actual candidates, though.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:25:20pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Bobby Jindal promised he’d kill him lots of them terrists.

him and the skipper and maryanne need to get off the island first

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:26:56pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:26:56pm

Where can the unwashed masses observe?

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:27:00pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:27:32pm

re: #19 Lidane

“Hey we’re just asking questions….”

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WhatEVs  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:27:40pm

She’s live tweeting. Thank god. I can turn this shit off.

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:27:49pm

I was about to suggest that someone’s probably Periscoping this for anyone who doesn’t subscribe. But I don’t think there’s a Fox News viewer who’s heard of Periscope yet.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:28:12pm

re: #23 WhatEVs

She’s live tweeting. Thank god. I can turn this shit off.

Chuckee Cheese

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:28:46pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:28:50pm

re: #19 Lidane

“Well, why won’t you put all mosques under surveillance?”

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JamesWI  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:29:33pm

So, full-on ground wars in Iraq and Syria (I’m sure they’ll add Iran to the list by the end of the debate), full surveillance of houses of worship…

Woo Republican 2016!

….And Santorum just said that the thing that makes America great is that the law treats everyone equally. LOL.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:29:40pm

Thank the universe for Spotify. I put my earbuds in and have music blasting in my ears. True story — this is the current song on my playlist. Seems fitting:

…

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:29:44pm

Unbelievable, I mean really what do any of these folks know about what Americans want or are tired of, they all live in a different world than the rest of us.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:30:20pm

Perry you will never totally secure the border it is to long.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:30:52pm

Rick saying Amurrka will never trust Washington, so I guess when he’s president, it’s all over.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:31:12pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:31:35pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

They get asked about Jade Helm 15 yet?

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:31:54pm

BEachDem, it might well be over if we ever were burdened with any of these “clowns”

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:32:44pm

I’m bored. Maybe a drink will help. LOT of commercials—guess they need a lot of breaks to mop up the flop sweat.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:32:45pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:32:49pm

I’m drinking flavoraid at the kiddie table. Too early to drink for me.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:32:54pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

So far, all the candidates have said they’re going to start lots of wars everywhere around the Middle East.

With what army? Hessian mercenaries? Surely not American soldiers, who’ve already been at war for a decade.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:32:55pm

re: #31 Tigger2

Perry you will never totally secure the border it is to long.

He is so full of it. He is trying to mitigate the fact that he turned his head while undocumented workers added to the TX economy and helped his big real estate buddies.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:33:08pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:33:10pm
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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:34:03pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:34:26pm

Fox employees on break: “hey who asked for this”? I wanted to watch the Simpsons.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:34:51pm
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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:35:48pm

I almost feel bad for these candidates. Almost. Just pitiful. Fox really screwed the pooch on this.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:21pm

Oh goody now the Economy “Tax Breaks Tax Breaks Tax Breaks.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:39pm

LOLOLOL…. #Perry2016 is trending on Twitter here in Austin.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:40pm

Is this being streamed anywhere?

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:40pm

OMG, give facts please, everything you just said is a darn lie!
Arch!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:55pm

Hopefully this is the last nail in the coffin for Santorum.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:55pm

Graham answering all the questions he is not being asked.

Always goes back to Middle East, bash Hillary.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:36:59pm

re: #47 Tigger2

Oh goody now the Economy “Tax Breaks Tax Breaks Tax Breaks.

Tax breaks and a flat fair tax. That should work well.

/

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whitebeach  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:37:18pm

re: #43 Jenner7

Demonic presence.

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WhatEVs  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:37:42pm

re: #42 Lidane

“Defend yourself against ISIS with a reverse mortgage!” #KidsTable

I didn’t know Fred Thompson was at the kids table!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:37:57pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:38:18pm

re: #55 WhatEVs

I didn’t know Fred Thompson was at the kids table!

Well, he didn’t crack the top ten, so technically he would be eligible.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:38:34pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:38:44pm

This is more interesting than the debate, we should be there.

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WhatEVs  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:15pm

re: #48 Lidane

LOLOLOL…. #Perry2016 is trending on Twitter here in Austin.

That’s sad. Austin? Bummer.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:29pm

Repeat: has anyone found a livestream for Fox?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:36pm

re: #60 WhatEVs

That’s sad. Austin? Bummer.

Maybe the hippie liberals are having some fun.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:44pm
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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:55pm

Now “Flat Tax’, LOL another way to help the Rich. and cutting entitlements another way to hurt the poor and middle class.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:39:57pm

re: #53 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Tax breaks and a flat fair tax. That should work well.

/

Yes, a flat tax because tacking 30% onto the cost of every last thing won’t have consequences for an economy two-thirds reliant on consumer spending.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:17pm

re: #63 Kragar

Take away all the Food Stamps!!!111

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:19pm

Oh goody, tax cuts, for all americans, except the really poor ones and the middle class

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:40pm

I don’t know which is more annoying, my laptop or Rick Santorum. Turned the idiocy off and will just follow along here and on Wonkette till the MAIN EVENT.

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WhatEVs  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:44pm

re: #62 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Maybe the hippie liberals are having some fun.

I hope so!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:44pm

re: #61 freetoken

Repeat: has anyone found a livestream for Fox?

There’s a live stream here - but you have to have a cable TV account.

foxnews.com

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:47pm

re: #60 WhatEVs

That’s sad. Austin? Bummer.

Considering how shitty Abbott is as governor, maybe it’s nostalgia for Goodhair again.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:40:49pm

re: #48 Lidane

LOLOLOL…. #Perry2016 is trending on Twitter here in Austin.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:41:34pm

Maybe someone should tell them that Obama is not running this year!

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:42:04pm
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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:42:10pm

Charles here but I don’t know if they will cover the main debate.

hulkusc.com

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:43:21pm

REPEAL!!!

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whitebeach  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:43:22pm

Ten minutes was all I could stand. This stuff has to violate several parts of the Geneva Convention.

Also too, in what way does having dolts deliver brief brainless sound bytes in response to idiotic loaded questions constitute a “debate”?

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:43:31pm
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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:43:48pm

Oh boy PP and SCOTUS up next!

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:44:02pm

Oh, goodie!!! The pretenders are gonna get asked about the babbie parts video next!!!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:44:09pm

re: #75 Tigger2

Good find.

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:44:26pm

Is anyone besides me getting audio dropouts, especially just before they go to commercial? Or is my TV trying to look out for my mental health by muting the derp?

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:44:53pm
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:45:13pm

re: #82 ipsos

I’m still looking for something I can stream.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:45:45pm

re: #84 freetoken

I’m still looking for something I can stream.

re: #75 Tigger2

Charles here but I don’t know if they will cover the main debate.

hulkusc.com

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:45:54pm

Still waiting for an intelligent question.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:03pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

There’s a live stream here - but you have to have a cable TV account.

foxnews.com

I don’t know what they mean by a “Cable TV account”. Obviously I pay Cox for internet service, but not TV.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:16pm
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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:35pm

Look at the ones and ones of people in the crowd!!!re: #86 LiberalGal

Still waiting for an intelligent question.

You’re on the wrong planet for that.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:41pm

I wonder, do you think they will ask this? How do you feel being at the Kiddie’s table?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:42pm

re: #63 Kragar

#GOPDebate Fox interviewer basically just phrased a question as “What will you do to make poor people stop being so lazy?”

i propose all republicans demonstrate how easy it is to get ahead by working at minimum wage jobs for a year

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:54pm

re: #86 LiberalGal

Still waiting for an intelligent question.

When is the first non-Fox debate being held?

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:46:59pm

Look at the ones and ones of people in the crowd!!!

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aagcobb  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:47:32pm

re: #8 elizajane

Can it be true that you can only access the debates if you have a cable subscription to Fox? As one who has systematically avoided anything that might give money, however insubstantial an amount, to that network, now I am distressed.

Its available on siriusxm radio channel 114

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:47:33pm

re: #86 LiberalGal

“Which one of you will be driving the clown car off the cliff?”

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:47:40pm

What’s with the echo in this place?

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:47:55pm
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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:47:58pm
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nines09  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:48:31pm

re: #96 Kid A

What’s with the echo in this place?

Empty rooms echo. So do empty heads.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:48:45pm

re: #87 freetoken

I don’t know what they mean by a “Cable TV account”. Obviously I pay Cox for internet service, but not TV.

Then you don’t have a cable TV account, as they would interpret it.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:49:30pm

Ooh, Ricky has a crush on Carly!!!

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:49:39pm

Why is it that all that comes out of his mouth is dumb?

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:49:50pm

Speaking of money going to Iran…

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:49:53pm

Perry it’s their fucking money to begin with it’s not our money.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:50:32pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:50:34pm

re: #98 Kragar

They’re going to ask about Planned Parenthood next

“end the punitive tax rates on selling dead baby parts and get rid of these job killing regulations on abortion mills”

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:50:45pm

Carly sucking up to BiBi.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:50:52pm

Carly not feeling Ricky’s love—she’s gonna call her good friend Bibi on Day 1 (if I were using my Bingo card, she hit two square in one sentence.)

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:50:57pm

re: #100 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Basically, Faux News is saying that only people who buy their entertainment (through paying via Cable companies) can watch their faux drama show?

This makes them different than WWE and Showtime exactly how?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:51:00pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:51:22pm

Day 2! Camp David!

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:51:31pm

Yet every single country in the entire world is with us on the deal, why is that Carly?

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:06pm

She knows Persians aren’t Arabs, right?

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aagcobb  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:13pm

re: #112 LiberalGal

Yet every single country in the entire world is with us on the deal, why is that Carly?

Because America didn’t lead!

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:25pm

Ok, not every single country but 95% of them……

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:34pm

ROGUE SUPREME COURT DECISION!!!

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:38pm
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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:52:54pm

Jesus Perry is an idiot

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:53:05pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:53:15pm

Why is Santorum getting to yak so much? Seems he gets two questions to every one for Lindsey or Patacki.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:53:15pm

re: #75 Tigger2

Thanks, the hulkusc link works!

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:53:37pm

I guess Fiorina doesn’t know Iran is fighting ISIS too.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:53:43pm

re: #118 Major Tom

Jesus Perry is an idiot

Just getting that are you? LOL

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:54:14pm

re: #123 LiberalGal

No. But I am consistently reminded.

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Lancelot Link  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:54:22pm

re: #109 freetoken

This makes them different than WWE and Showtime exactly how?

WWE is less fake.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:54:41pm

“The litmus test is that there isn’t a litmus test as long as they agree with me.”

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:54:42pm

re: #118 Major Tom

Jesus Perry is an idiot

And the asshole who followed him in the Texas governor’s office is dumber. Let that sink in a while.

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aagcobb  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:55:34pm

Idiot wants a ME NATO to fight both sides of the wars there.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:56:33pm

Only one could have been there, they all are saying the same thing.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:56:34pm

Wait …did Gilmore just propose a “Middle East NATO”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:00pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:07pm

re: #130 blueraven

He at least turned down the abortion litmus test.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:11pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:21pm

re: #130 blueraven

Wait …did Gilmore just propose a “Middle East NATO”?

I’d rewind and see, but truly, I can only listen to these guys once.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:38pm

Evan at Wonkette: Evan: Carly will make two phone calls: 1. Netanyahu. 2. Iran. They will probably not answer the phone but she will leave a message.

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:41pm

I’m saving my explicit spectating for the varsity sports. Here and Twitter seem to be doing just fine with the quotes and snark for the JV team.

Great hashtags too! #KidsTable #ShortBus

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:44pm

“Did anyone make up what you lost in the recession? No? Then transfer your IRA to GOLD…”

The ads are just as bad as the debate. Maybe worse.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:57:57pm

Now I know why “Send In The Clowns” is such a horrible, lame, depressing song.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:58:04pm

The first casualty of war is Truth.
The first casualty of a GOP debate is Fact.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:58:08pm

re: #82 ipsos

Is anyone besides me getting audio dropouts, especially just before they go to commercial? Or is my TV trying to look out for my mental health by muting the derp?

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:58:32pm

re: #135 BeachDem

Evan at Wonkette: Evan: Carly will make two phone calls: 1. Netanyahu. 2. Iran. They will probably not answer the phone but she will leave a message.

She’s writing for SNL at this point.

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bratwurst  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:58:35pm

Well you can say this: anyone who feels like being a governor on 9/11 is an important qualification for the party nominee in 2016 has two definite options on this stage!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:59:01pm
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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:59:23pm

re: #137 ipsos

“Did anyone make up what you lost in the recession? No? Then transfer your IRA to GOLD…”

The ads are just as bad as the debate. Maybe worse.

How can I get on the other side of the deal where gullible seniors plow their savings into marked-up gold coins?

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:59:33pm
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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 2:59:59pm

Pataki never saw any of the videos.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:18pm
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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:28pm

Believe the scientists! Trust science! Except when it’s global warming hoax science! That part you can ignore!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:29pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:35pm

Please name one 20 week fetus that has survived.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:37pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:00:51pm
Someone get me an ice pack.
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:01:38pm

I had forgotten that “President Jindal” was there. It was a good 10 minutes…

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:01:51pm

#kidstable IS hilarious.

There should be a camera on the audience so we can count the facepalms per minute.

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:01:52pm

President Jindal would use the IRS and DOJ as a bludgeon against his ideological opponents.

So noted.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:01:56pm

re: #139 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The first casualty of war is Truth.
The first casualty of a GOP debate is Fact.

Ever since HW Bush’s observations about ‘voodoo economics’ were memory-holed by the GOP, it has been an entirely fact-free operation.

Unfortunately the MSM seems to have a vested interest in pretending that the GOP is still interested in reality-based decision making. It isn’t. GOP campaigning is essentially primate dominance battle cries shoehorned into the form of public policy debate.

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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:01:59pm

Jindal believes PP has been caught breaking the law. Rhodes Scholar!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:02:11pm

LOL!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:02:54pm

re: #155 ipsos

President Jindal would use the IRS and DOJ as a bludgeon against his ideological opponents.

So noted.

There’s a reason it is utterly inconceivable to Republicans that President Obama wouldn’t do these things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:02:54pm
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CuriousLurker  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:03pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

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LOL wut? Troops in Iran? When, FFS?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:14pm
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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:15pm

I’m serious, Graham could start crying.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:33pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

My farts are Attar of Roses compared to their words.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:37pm

re: #157 iossarian

Jindal believes PP has been caught breaking the law. Rhodes Scholar!

Jindal believes he needs to say stupid things to try to appeal to GOP primary voters.

Jindal is correct. However, it will not help him.

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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:41pm

War with Arabs had not been mentioned for a few seconds there. Glad someone brought us back to task.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:03:59pm
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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:04:01pm

I just saw a photographer walk freely through all the empty seats, LOL.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:04:18pm

Here we go again!!!!

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CuriousLurker  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:04:37pm

I watched for about 10 minutes, When Jindal came on and started trying to act like a tough guy, I gagged and shut it off. Can’t watch these lying idiots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:08pm

re: #164 Higgs Boson’s Mate

My farts are Attar of Roses compared to their words.

My dogs fart and blame the GOP debate

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:11pm

AMNESTY! SANCTUARY CITIES! ILLEGAL ALIENS! IRS!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:12pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

I watched for about 10 minutes, When Jindal came on and started trying to act like a tough guy, I gagged and shut it off. Can’t watch these lying idiots.

I already have an upset stomach. I will watch vicariously through Lizard and Twitter commentary.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:31pm
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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:37pm

Jindal would favor businesses being able to turn him away from their sandwich counters. Good to know.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:41pm

Isn’t lying a pre-requisite for being a Republican.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:42pm

White out??!!

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:51pm

HHHHHWahite-out?

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:05:55pm
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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:23pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

He just said he’d prevent them from investigating right-wing advocacy groups. It’s like the memory span is visibly shrinking before our very eyes.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:30pm

re: #176 LiberalGal

Isn’t lying a pre-requisite for being a Republican.

Yes it is. It is also required to be completely disconnected from reality.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:31pm

Santori can do an exorder, but not the Potus, oh no, heavens no.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:35pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I already have an upset stomach. I will watch vicariously through Lizard and Twitter commentary.

Same here—I figured it’s less toxic to watch it through the LGF filter.

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:37pm
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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:06:50pm

This woman ran a Fortune 500 company?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:07:17pm

All of them want moar war in the ME. None of them have said how we’re going to pay for all that war.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:07:34pm

re: #185 Kid A

This woman ran a Fortune 500 company?

Into the ground. Doesn’t take much talent to do that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:07:37pm

re: #183 CuriousLurker

Same here—I figured it’s less toxic to watch it through the LGF filter.

I’m in Vegas and I still think it would be impossible to consume enough alcohol to make watching it live tolerable.

Well, not impossible. But I’d rather not play with alcohol poisoning tonight. Or any night.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:07:42pm

Amazing, isn’t it, that this is the year 2015?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:07:56pm
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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:08:08pm

re: #185 Kid A

Well, she ran one badly and was fired.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:08:13pm

re: #186 Higgs Boson’s Mate

All of them want moar war in the ME. None of them have said how we’re going to pay for all that war.

Tax cuts and elimination of regulations to grow the economy.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:08:31pm

re: #189 freetoken

Amazing, isn’t it, that this is the year 2015?

For them more like 1915

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:08:33pm

These questions are so fucking ridiculous—well, they’re not really questions. And Carly Fiorina’s voice makes me want to stick ice picks in my ears.

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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:08:41pm

The overrun bell is driving my cocker spaniel crazy.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:09:08pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:09:40pm

re: #191 BillinGlendaleCA

Well, she ran one badly and was fired.

She ran several large companies, all of them badly, and always failed upward until HP. I’m sure she got a cushy golden parachute from HP even if she was forced out.

It’s good to be the king.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:09:55pm

re: #185 Kid A

Comparable to Steve Jobs…

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:08pm

“I’m a child of Ronald Reagan” — Santorum.

Um… is there some secret in the Santorum family?

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:08pm

re: #185 Kid A

This woman ran a Fortune 500 company?

Into the fucking ground, yes. There’s a reason why she was fired.

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:20pm

Perry: We choose to be a maroon, and do the other thing, I forget. Not because it’s hard, cause it’s easy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:23pm
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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:29pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

@MicheleBachmann
Perry was wrong saying that US troops were killed in Lebanon, thousands were killed in Iran

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:38pm

Bingo question—If they say Ronald Reagan multiple times in a single answer, do we drink continuously?

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:10:47pm

On 7.25 an hour you can have a health savings account, sure, ok, whatever you say, moron!

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:14pm

re: #194 BeachDem

These questions are so fucking ridiculous—well, they’re not really questions. And Carly Fiorina’s voice makes me want to stick ice picks in my ears.

The questions are from Fox News idiots. I’m honestly surprised we haven’t had a question from Fox about the advisability of setting up work camps for unemployed people.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:20pm

re: #186 Higgs Boson’s Mate

All of them want moar war in the ME. None of them have said how we’re going to pay for all that war.

Yeah, it like: “If we can just go kill some Muslims, that’ll magically fix everything overseas and here at home.” I mean, shoot, look how much better off women in Afghanistan are now that we’ve been there for 14 years! Oh wait… //

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:22pm

re: #199 freetoken

Ronald Reagan’s actual child:

…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:27pm

How can the government be so terrible when the Republicans have had the House since 2010 and the Senate since 2014? What was that about the mote in thy neighbor’s eye?

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:28pm

re: #204 BeachDem

Ethyl alcohol IV?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:11:59pm

Carly Fiorina has a really annoying high-pitched whistle every time she says a word with an S in it.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:12:40pm

From Wonkette:

Carly Fiorina: “I’m the happiest girl in the whole USA.”

Rick Santorum: “Washington is the problem. I am a child of Reagan, the gay divorce whose wife gave the best head in Hollywood.”

Lindsey Graham: “I am an orphan. I lived in a liquor store. I swept up in John Boehner’s bar. I am a confirmed bachelor. Reagan.”

wonkette.com

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:12:41pm

re: #28 JamesWI

So, full-on ground wars in Iraq and Syria (I’m sure they’ll add Iran to the list by the end of the debate), full surveillance of houses of worship…

Woo Republican 2016!

….And Santorum just said that the thing that makes America great is that the law treats everyone equally. LOL.

Unless you’re different.

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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:12:42pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Like demon Sheep?

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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:12:56pm

I’m surprised none of them rolled with “evil witch”. Can’t decide whether that was a good thing or not.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:13:19pm

Hey Rick what planet are you from?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:13:32pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Badly designed CPU ducting. Her people should talk with Romney’s.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:13:56pm

Trump will be a breath whirlwind of fresh air compared to these folk.

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:12pm

Nobody’s done it it like Rick Perry has done it.

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:27pm
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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:39pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:39pm

I have 300 children, that makes me great!!!! Moron Moron Moron

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:51pm

re: #217 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Badly designed CPU ducting. Her people should talk with Romney’s.

Send ‘em both to Philadelphia and see how the locals treat them.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:14:57pm

Heh, Perry looks and sounds like George W. Bush trying to sell a 1982 Chevy Citation on late night Lubbock TV.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:15:00pm

re: #215 iossarian

I’m surprised none of them rolled with “evil witch”. Can’t decide whether that was a good thing or not.

Was this an attempt by Fox News to make the conversation about what version of ‘evil witch’ Hillary Clinton is? If so, I’m amazed at the restraint, and it would show why this is the debate for the also-rans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:15:28pm
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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:15:52pm
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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:15:58pm
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calochortus  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:15:59pm

re: #212 BeachDem

From Wonkette:

Carly Fiorina: “I’m the happiest girl in the whole USA.”

Rick Santorum: “Washington is the problem. I am a child of Reagan, the gay divorce whose wife gave the best head in Hollywood.”

Lindsey Graham: “I am an orphan. I lived in a liquor store. I swept up in John Boehner’s bar. I am a confirmed bachelor. Reagan.”

wonkette.com

Thanks. This way I don’t have to actually try to find somewhere I can watch this.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:16pm

re: #209 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How can the government be so terrible when the Republicans have had the House since 2010 and the Senate since 2014? What was that about the mote in thy neighbor’s eye?

That’s because President Obama is so divisive and the Dems in Congress are obstructionists.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:31pm
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iossarian  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:39pm

Carly Fiorina: I am not Hillary Clinton.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:40pm

BENGHAZI!!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:44pm
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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:16:47pm
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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:00pm

Hillary is the front runner because when she talks, she makes sense, unlike you.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:01pm

Santorum: “Yeah, manufacturing! I have a plan to buy back all of the jobs that we conservatives enthusiastically sent overseas.”

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:03pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:06pm

Did Jindal just say he had the bandwith, or was I hearing something wrong (because everyone must speak English something something?_)

Oh Carly, shut the fuck up!

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:36pm

Suggest amphetamines for Grahm.

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becominginvisible  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:47pm

‘We need a doer not a talker’ Jindal just ruled out his party.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:17:52pm

GREECE!

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:18:20pm
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ipsos  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:18:25pm

“With all the candidates, why me?” - Pataki’s version of Adm. Stockdale’s “Who am I? Why am I here?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:18:27pm

re: #229 calochortus

Thanks. This way I don’t have to actually try to find somewhere I can watch this.

Rick Santorum: “Washington is the problem. I am a child of Reagan, the gay divorce whose wife gave the best head in Hollywood.”

Better not let Newt know that Rick is talking about Calista…again…

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:18:40pm

When Graham speaks I feel like I’m being admonished by my great aunt.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:18:50pm

re: #113 Kid A

I wouldn’t bet on it.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:19:16pm

re: #241 becominginvisible

‘We need a doer not a talker’ Jindal just ruled out his party.

Best yet

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:19:22pm

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Now I know why “Send In The Clowns” is such a horrible, lame, depressing song.

And very, very hard to sing—worse than Amazing Grace.

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:15pm

Thank You God

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:16pm

Clap.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:28pm

re: #141 Major Tom

She’s writing for SNL at this point.

But Ana Gasteyer isn’t there any more to play her….

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LiberalGal  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:38pm

Was that the crowd all 7 of them

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:43pm

re: #210 freetoken

Ethyl alcohol IV?

I’ll take it under advisement.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:20:48pm

Those Fox hosts pretty much define “yellow journalism” in the current age.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:21:01pm

re: #254 BeachDem

I’ll take it under advisement.

Use a drip system.

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Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:22:15pm

Some of these guys are polling below 1% with just as much name recognition. Any one of us had as much of a right to be there as they did.

Who will be America’s next Gop Model?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:22:23pm
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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:22:42pm

Chris Wallace is currently babbling about how smart Carly Fiorina sounded. George Will too.

LOLOLOL

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:19pm

re: #253 LiberalGal

Was that the crowd all 7 of them

It’s pretty bad when the people on stage outnumber the amount of people in the audience.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:20pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

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calochortus  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:41pm

re: #259 Lidane

Well, several Freepers (and no, I’m not going to read all the comments at FR) think Fiorina and Jindal did very well.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:41pm

re: #259 Lidane

They’re desperate to put a woman on the stage.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:46pm

re: #185 Kid A

This woman ran a Fortune 500 company?

Into the ground.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:23:59pm

re: #259 Lidane

She was a CEO!!

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:24:01pm

re: #229 calochortus

Thanks. This way I don’t have to actually try to find somewhere I can watch this.

The wonketeers are always entertaining.

Well, that was sad! Thank you for joining us for this vale of tears and Carly Fiorina (she can’t move her tear ducts anymore, sadface, wait she can’t do that either).

Join us for THE TRUMPENING at 9 p.m. Eastern. Will it be YOOGE, and CLASSY? Well, would Donald Trump lie to you? Don’t answer that.

Bye bye!

wonkette.com

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:24:15pm

See George Will’s mummy tongue bathe death-dwarfs!

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:24:31pm

re: #193 LiberalGal

For them more like 1915

Except for those for whom it is 1615.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:24:45pm

BBL for the Trump Show…….

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allegro  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:24:46pm

re: #259 Lidane

Chris Wallace is currently babbling about how smart Carly Fiorina sounded. George Will too.

LOLOLOL

Even pointed out how sharp she was on foreign affairs. Um…hello?

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:18pm

OK Perry did get a good one in at the end…

Asked for 2 words he would blah, blah, blah….
He replied, “I’ll give you three”

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:19pm

If the GOP loses the female vote count then the GOP doesn’t get the White House.

It’s that simple.

Which is why the strategists/talking heads are pushing Fiorina. I noticed Fox Radio was doing the same.

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Mattand  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:26pm

re: #243 Lidane

“Immigration without assimilation is invasion.”—Bobby Jindal #KidsTable

Translation:”Hey, look at me! I deny my family’s ancestry at every opportunity so that racist religious-fanatic Tea Baggers will like me!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:33pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:40pm

re: #259 Lidane

Chris Wallace is currently babbling about how smart Carly Fiorina sounded. George Will too.

LOLOLOL

For crying out loud. An Eliza-bot could be programmed to give stock conservative answers to all political questions and ‘sound more intelligent’ than any of the asshats running for the GOP nomination.

Not coincidentally, said Eliza-bot would also sound more intelligent that just about all conservative pundits, including Wallace and Will.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:25:49pm

re: #263 freetoken

They’re desperate to put a woman on the stage.

They must be. Both Wallace and Will were talking about how polished and poised and sharp she looked. They must have been watching a different debate. Or this is proof that I could never be a Republican since I can’t wrap my brain around their logic.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:26:28pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:26:33pm

re: #256 freetoken

Use a drip system.

I was thinking a funnel might be more effective.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:26:35pm

re: #273 Mattand

Translation:”Hey, look at me! I deny my family’s ancestry at every opportunity so that racist religious-fanatic Tea Baggers will like me!”

And he’s not BROWN…just tanned and rested…

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calochortus  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:26:53pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Presumably people looking for links to support their statements that she was incompetent at HP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:27:24pm

re: #280 calochortus

Presumably people looking for links to support their statements that she was incompetent at HP.

hope springs eternal…

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:27:52pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

That would be a perfect plan, if Fiorina were running to become leader of ISIS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:28:14pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Jindal was the most searched IN HIS OWN STATE? As in, “Who is this ‘Jindal’ guy?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:29:14pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

Jindal was the most searched IN HIS OWN STATE? As in, “Who is this ‘Jindal’ guy?”

Maybe they were searching for Jingle Bells and typoed it…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:29:35pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:29:39pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I’m guessing the search query is “Who the fuck is this annoying person named Carly Fiorina?”

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:29:41pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

For crying out loud. An Eliza-bot could be programmed to give stock conservative answers to all political questions and ‘sound more intelligent’ than any of the asshats running for the GOP nomination.

Not coincidentally, said Eliza-bot would also sound more intelligent that just about all conservative pundits, including Wallace and Will.

Seriously, I think they get points for just being able to put a couple of sentences together. Content?…pfffft.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:30:01pm

George Will is clearly getting paid by the rationalization. He was just saying that Perry looked smart and that he was clearly accomplished as Texas governor (JRRRRBZ CREATION!) and that we’d be seeing more of Perry in the future.

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calochortus  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:30:45pm

re: #286 BeachDem

I’m guessing the search query is “Who the fuck is this annoying person named Carly Fiorina?”

You’d think a lot of Californians would already know.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:31:25pm

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:31:39pm

re: #289 calochortus

You’d think a lot of Californians would already know.

I think we all try very hard to forget.

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allegro  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:32:16pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

Going for vagina points.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:32:34pm

re: #289 calochortus

You’d think a lot of Californians would already know.

Californians were probably checking to see by how many points Barbara Boxer smashed the demon sheep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:32:37pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

They are soooo easily impressed.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:32:57pm

Some 1 % of the US population watches Fox News at it’s most watched hours.

I’d like to think that means only 1% of the population actually buys what Fox sells, though sadly I realize more than that do.

The real analysts, who aren’t on TV trying to push a candidate for which they’ve been paid to look good, know that all those religious-right old men in the GOP central-nexxus will not get very many female-under-40 votes. The gray-haired vote - yes, but the younger vote definitely not.

So this “debate” is for the Fox audience, for their customers.

Any GOP candidate needs the Fox customers, but to be US President said candidate will need lots of other people too. That’s what Jeb! meant which Jindal played against.

Jindal is running an ego-stroking exercise which he has lied to himself to claim it’s a religious mission. Thus he’s never going to be President and can simply run for the glory of it.

The billionaire backers, though, need a President in their pocket. That’s why Jeb! and Walker are the two most likely to win. At this early day in the campaign I’m expecting the GOP ticket to be either Walker/Rubio or Walker/Bush.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:04pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are soooo easily impressed.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:14pm

re: #289 calochortus

You’d think a lot of Californians would already know.

We know Our Lady of the Demon Sheep all right. Many of us consider her to be the Andy Kaufman of electoral politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:20pm

Carly might be chasing him…

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:21pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

Is that like #winning Charlie Sheen style?

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:22pm

Well I was looking for someone to replace the guy that was cutting my grass but the problem is I saw no one on stage that seems to be qualified to do anything productive.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:33:47pm

I liked how it was asked “in 2 words how would you describe Hillary Clinton” and the first 2 did it with 2 words then by the end they were just hurling insults.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:34:52pm

Will they ask the same questions at the big boy pants debate?

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:35:02pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

Carly would be an even worse candidate for the GOP than Mitt Romney was in 2012.

Even the Democratic party should be able to mount a hard-hitting campaign against someone with such a clear record of failing up. Nobody is openly in favor of CEOs getting the big bucks for screwing things up.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:36:20pm

I’m wondering how Trump will do having to share the stage with 9 others.

Will his ego allow it? Will he be chiming in continuously with one word hurls?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:36:24pm

re: #301 Amory Blaine

I liked how it was asked “in 2 words how would you describe Hillary Clinton” and the first 2 did it with 2 words then by the end they were just hurling insults.

I caught that as well.

Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are …

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:36:45pm
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BongCrodny  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:38:18pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

The post Fox-debate crew anointed Carly the “winner”.

They’re just fucking desperate to get a woman on stage for the next debate.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:38:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:39:58pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:42:28pm

Didn’t catch this one (believe I’d already fallen asleep)

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) seemed to forget during Thursday’s second-tier GOP debate for the presidential nomination that he served 15 years as governor.

“It just needs a corporate executive type at the top that’s done it before. And I will suggest to you nobody’s done it like Rick Perry has done it over the last eight years,” Perry said.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:43:29pm

Watching the debate was like watching a rerun from a 2012 debate.

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BongCrodny  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:44:53pm

re: #249 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And very, very hard to sing—worse than Amazing Grace.

You’re not doing it right.

…

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:44:53pm

I hope America is smart enough to not want to go back to all this chest thumping foreign policy rhetoric and anti science BS the GOP is pushing.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:46:10pm

Does anybody think the top ten are going to perform any better than the bottom seven? I think the best we can expect is to turn up the high gain derpatenna.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:46:36pm

re: #314 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Does anybody think the top ten are going to perform any better than the bottom seven? I think the best we can expect is to turn up the high gain derpatenna.

No

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:46:48pm

re: #309 Charles Johnson

Another thing to torment Santorum on the Internet for the rest of his days.

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:46:59pm

re: #311 Tigger2

Watching the debate was like watching a rerun from a 2012 debate.

Naturally. What passes for policy positions in the GOP had ossified into dogma at least 20 years ago.

It’s not just a slip of the tongue when the uber-hawks refer to the Soviet Union as the eternal enemy.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:48:42pm

re: #314 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Does anybody think the top ten are going to perform any better than the bottom seven? I think the best we can expect is to turn up the high gain derpatenna.

It’s like playing a PC game on Hard: it doesn’t get smarter, there’s just more bad shit.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:48:59pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

Naturally. What passes for policy positions in the GOP had ossified into dogma at least 20 years ago.

It’s not just a slip of the tongue when the uber-hawks refer to the Soviet Union as the eternal enemy.

Yep their policy positions are about as old as most of their base.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:49:07pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:49:14pm

re: #314 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Does anybody think the top ten are going to perform any better than the bottom seven? I think the best we can expect is to turn up the high gain derpatenna.

One thing I do expect is that if Fox tries the question about describing Hillary Clinton in 2 words, someone in the GOP top ten will reply ‘evil witch’ or equivalent.

But the real problem in the GOP top 10 is Trumpzilla.

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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:49:38pm

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Thanks Obama.

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bratwurst  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:50:46pm

I skipped the last half hour of that nonsense…trying to pace myself. The thing that keeps shaking me is this: by and large, those were the people who were just not quite awful ENOUGH to be on the main stage.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:51:51pm

re: #322 EPR-radar

One thing I do expect is that if Fox tries the question about describing Hillary Clinton in 2 words, someone in the GOP top ten will reply ‘evil witch’ or equivalent.

But the real problem in the GOP top 10 is Trumpzilla.

One of them is bound to answer “Planned Parenthood.” Trump will answer, “Not Trump.”

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:51:57pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are soooo easily impressed.

Nah. They want to ensure that the Top 10 doesn’t stay a sausage fest. They want to get her on the main stage for the next debate so the Dems can’t rightly point out that the GOP won’t nominate a woman.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:52:33pm

re: #324 bratwurst

I skipped the last half hour of that nonsense…trying to pace myself. The thing that keeps shaking me is this: by and large, those were the people who were just not quite awful ENOUGH to be on the main stage.

That’s what is making me look forward to the Big Show, that these are the nutters who failed to qualify. Which means we’re looking at scaling Mount Bullshit before the night is over.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:52:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:53:07pm
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bratwurst  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:53:48pm

re: #326 Lidane

Nah. They want to ensure that the Top 10 doesn’t stay a sausage fest. They want to get her on the main stage for the next debate so the Dems can’t rightly point out that the GOP won’t nominate a woman.

Absolutely. I am sure they were also thrilled that Dr. Carson polled well enough to make it this time in spite of being so overshadowed by the Trumpnado.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:55:23pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:58:38pm

re: #322 EPR-radar

One thing I do expect is that if Fox tries the question about describing Hillary Clinton in 2 words, someone in the GOP top ten will reply ‘evil witch’ or equivalent.

But the real problem in the GOP top 10 is Trumpzilla.

I’m just hoping somebody irritates “statesman” John Kasich, so everyone gets to see his nasty, sarcastic personality.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:58:43pm

The Republican Presidential Debate in 3 Words:
Muslims, Mexicans, and Homosexuals.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:58:45pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:59:01pm

More of that GOP outreach…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 3:59:48pm

oh good grief, what just a sad sack he is…

The moderators, for the most part, did the debaters few favors. They began by asking, in so many words, why they were such losers that they hadn’t made the cut for the evening’s primetime debate. Fiorina was swift with a response:

Well, I would begin by reminding people that at this point in previous presidential elections, Jimmy Carter couldn’t win, Ronald Reagan couldn’t win, Bill Clinton couldn’t win, and neither could’ve Barack Obama.

LOLOLOLOL

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:00:08pm

re: #335 Dr. Matt

More of that GOP outreach…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:01:01pm

re: #335 Dr. Matt

I’m always touched when White people deign to tell us How It Really Is with people of color.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:01:15pm

re: #313 blueraven

I hope America is smart enough to not want to go back to all this chest thumping foreign policy rhetoric and anti science BS the GOP is pushing.

Well, I think there is something deeper going on.

Fox sells emotion. Anger and hate are easier to generate than others. All one has to do is convince someone they’ve been wronged, and shazaam, there’s your anger.

That is what this “take our country back” - revanchism - is all about. It’s trying to convince someone that something dear was stolen from them.

I still maintain that the underly angst is due to worldview-collapse. The older crowd, holders onto magickal themes of old, are feeling threatened by a younger crowd which doesn’t go along with either the old-time religion, or even old time polity.

The forged-grievances of the hate-right against Obama and “libruls” get the energy for the angst from this rejection of the older worldview.

Take for example Islam. While Jindal in particular but others too keep trying to make Islam a military threat to the US, it isn’t. It is a threat to fundamentalist Christianity though, as any Muslim who is a practicing Muslim is essentially saying that those fundamentalist Christians are wrong. The threat of a Mosque isn’t so much as a source of terror - though that is what is sold on the cover - but rather the deeper challenge that Islam has for Christianity.

And the same goes for other theistic religions. Which is why you always hear the term “Judeo-Christian” by the right wing fundamentalists - they have to equate their beliefs to that of Jews otherwise there is a clear ideological competition between Judaism and Christianity, and the wingnuts mostly don’t want to go there (but a few of the hard-line Presbyterian crowd will.)

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:02:38pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:03:52pm

re: #340 Dr. Matt

“I got your Trump Tower right here!”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:04:10pm

re: #340 Dr. Matt

Free drink ticket to the first person that can name the movie. :)

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:05:31pm

re: #342 Dr. Matt

Free drink ticket to the first person that can name the movie. :)

Kill Bill, Part I.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:06:37pm

re: #343 Targetpractice

Kill Bill, Part I.

*ding, ding, ding*

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:07:36pm

I’m noticing I’m getting sloppier in writing, with many more mistakes.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:09:10pm

Michael Steele just said that it will be a “frothy debate tonight.”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:09:22pm

So is Joe Scarborough the new fair-haired (Frat)boy on MSNBC after the gutting? I didn’t know I was going to half to listen this tonite… Gack!

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VegasGolfer  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:10:08pm

On MSNBC, Michael Steele said to look forward to a “frothy” debate.
You can’t make this shit up.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:11:07pm

Night Lizards/Tweets. Time to crawl under my rock and listen to this.

Roxette’s Greatest Hits || Best Of Roxette

And maybe some of this.

Evanescence - Lost in Paradise

HT to A Kait Accompli ‏@kettlekat for bringing this band to my attention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:11:40pm

re: #344 Dr. Matt

*ding, ding, ding*

[Embedded content]

gonna need more than one drink ticket tonight…

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Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:12:04pm

re: #85 Amory Blaine

That’s working for me. Greta is on right now.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:14:26pm

Job-killer is on Hardball.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:15:05pm

Sound effects are queued. Now I just need to go get some chocolate, extra, extra bitter, and I’ll be ready.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:15:26pm
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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:15:29pm

People are tired of bumper-sticker rhetoric so I’m going to use bumper-sticker rhetoric.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:15:57pm

re: #352 Kid A

Job-killer is on Hardball.

Yeah I hope people google her and find out just how good her record is, and not take her word on it.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:16:36pm

BENGHAZI, EMAILS AND SERVER!!!

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Archangelus  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:16:54pm

re: #351 Sionainn

That’s working for me. Greta is on right now.

Working for me as well, though with Reince Priebus talking on, I kinda wish it wasn’t…

BTW, if anyone’s in need of an alternative live link, the ones at TVtoss dot com are working fine as well (under the US TV channels)…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:16:58pm

MrBWS is home. He ate a piece of pizza and an old tooth cap fell off.
Turns out there is not one single dentist in this county anymore that works other than regular business hours Monday through Thursday.
WTF happened here in less than a year?

And we actually have dental insurance, pitiful though it may be.

good freaking grief.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:17:59pm

I wonder if job-killer was this worked up when 283 Marines were blown up in Beirut?

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Unabogie  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:18:15pm

I DUNNO WUT A SERVER IS, BUT HITLERY HAD ONE THAT ATE BEN GAZARRA

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Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:19:29pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS is home. He ate a piece of pizza and an old tooth cap fell off.
Turns out there is not one single dentist in this county anymore that works other than regular business hours Monday through Thursday.
WTF happened here in less than a year?

And we actually have dental insurance, pitiful though it may be.

good freaking grief.

A pharmacy should have some temporary cement to put it back in place until he can get to the dentist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:20:02pm

re: #362 Sionainn

A pharmacy should have some temporary cement to put it back in place until he can get to the dentist.

He says it doesn’t hurt and he’s being all macho about it.

sigh.

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Archangelus  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:20:30pm

You know it’s bad when Preibus, talking about the debates, says “you know, very soon some 4,500 people are going to..” and you instantly believe with 100% certainty that the rest of that sentence is “get on stage after announcing their candidacy”…

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:20:40pm

Joe STFU. him being the host why I don’t watch Morning Joe, they should get rid of him and name the show something else.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:21:17pm

Evening Lizardim. I finally got home from our company staff meeting (UGH) and am semi-relaxing in a mostly vegetative state, nominally keeping my eyes on the fishspawn while Mrs. Fish is out doing her social thing. I am completely and utterly ignoring the Republican debate, aside from hanging out here with you guys and laughing at your collective awesomeness. How go things among the lizardfolk on this rainy Thursday evening?

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Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:21:22pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

He says it doesn’t hurt and he’s being all macho about it.

sigh.

Yeah, but he doesn’t want to break that post off. At least, I wouldn’t want to break the post off. LOL.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:22:17pm

re: #366 thedopefishlives

I’ll offer a reminder that there’s new fancy expansion pants stuff to look at.

Not that I’ve looked at it yet, but I’ve heard vague rumblings about it.

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stpaulbear  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:22:36pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS is home. He ate a piece of pizza and an old tooth cap fell off.
Turns out there is not one single dentist in this county anymore that works other than regular business hours Monday through Thursday.
WTF happened here in less than a year?

And we actually have dental insurance, pitiful though it may be.

good freaking grief.

I’ve used some denture adhesive to put a dislodged crown back in place. It worked well.

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Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:23:20pm

re: #366 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. I finally got home from our company staff meeting (UGH) and am semi-relaxing in a mostly vegetative state, nominally keeping my eyes on the fishspawn while Mrs. Fish is out doing her social thing. I am completely and utterly ignoring the Republican debate, aside from hanging out here with you guys and laughing at your collective awesomeness. How go things among the lizardfolk on this rainy Thursday evening?

It’s been a sorry ass day. The internet platform I use for my transcription wasn’t working properly, so that got me behind and frustrated. It’s also the anniversary of when we took my mom off life support, so that’s got me down, too. I’m hoping that the debate will perk me up a bit.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:23:44pm

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll offer a reminder that there’s new fancy expansion pants stuff to look at.

Not that I’ve looked at it yet, but I’ve heard vague rumblings about it.

I already read that. I’ll almost certainly buy it, but the only thing that’ll get me hooked on the game again is to find people who actually want to play with me. Otherwise, I’ll probably just keep throwing money away on a game I don’t really log onto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:24:00pm

re: #367 Sionainn

Yeah, but he doesn’t want to break that post off. At least, I wouldn’t want to break the post off. LOL.

I told him that, but what the hell do I know?
He just wants to use some Superglue and be done with it.

sigh.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:24:13pm

re: #371 thedopefishlives

I already read that. I’ll almost certainly buy it, but the only thing that’ll get me hooked on the game again is to find people who actually want to play with me. Otherwise, I’ll probably just keep throwing money away on a game I don’t really log onto.

I know exactly what you mean.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:24:25pm

Rove is on Greta’s show babbling about Fiorina and about how now maybe people will be sending her money. And Greta was asking where the Republican “girl power” was and why aren’t they rallying around Carly.

Fox is definitely trying to get her into the next debate.

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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:24:39pm

Having a little Page glitch trying to post here, did Charles remove the “post to Page” button?

The Government Is Watching #BlackLivesMatter, And It’s Not Okay

By Nusrat Choudhury, Staff Attorney, ACLU Racial Justice Program
AUGUST 4, 2015 | 10:30 AM

WEB15-SiteImages-RacialJustice.jpg
Racial Justice protest
According to documents recently obtained by The Intercept in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the government is surveilling the #BlackLivesMatter movement.

Records from the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Operations Coordination show that since August 2014, DHS officials have been trolling public social media accounts, including Facebook, Twitter, and Vine, to map and collect information on #BlackLivesMatter protests -and supposedly related events. Targeted activities include silent vigils held across the country following the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, an anti-police brutality protest in Philadelphia, and an April 2015 #BlackLivesMatter protest in Washington D.C. The documents even show a plan to gather information on a funk music parade in a historically Black neighborhood in the nation’s capital.

Perhaps most troubling are the Google maps and live updates tracking, minute-by-minute, the movements of participants in an April 2015 #BlackLivesMatter protest in Washington, D.C. A DHS email released to the Intercept confirms that on the day before the event, several DHS officials were aware of a Federal Bureau of Investigation joint intelligence bulletin characterizing the protest as a “First Amendment-protected event,” and noting that there was “no information suggesting that violent behavior is planned for Washington, DC.”

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Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:24:46pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

I told him that, but what the hell do I know?
He just wants to use some Superglue and be done with it.

sigh.

NO! Tell him to google how to temporarily glue a crown back on and he can see that he shouldn’t use Superglue.

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stpaulbear  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:25:28pm

My greatest wish for the debate is that Trump will show up with his own time buzzer.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:26:30pm
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jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:26:48pm
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Archangelus  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:26:54pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

I told him that, but what the hell do I know?
He just wants to use some Superglue and be done with it.

Superglue should NOT be used for something like that…

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:27:06pm

re: #374 Lidane

Rove is on Greta’s show babbling about Fiorina and about how now maybe people will be sending her money. And Greta was asking where the Republican “girl power” was and why aren’t they rallying around Carly.

Fox is definitely trying to get her into the next debate.

The Twitterverse has declared Carly “pretty in pink plastic” Fiorina the winner for the first round - bless her heart?

First prize: a date with Rick Perry.
Second prize: two dates.

(Wonkcomments)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:27:33pm

re: #380 Archangelus

Do you think if we offer enough cat memes going “NO” that he’ll listen?

I kind of like this idea.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:28:23pm

Barry Blitt is terrific.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:28:56pm

re: #383 jaunte

That is amazing.

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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:29:15pm

re: #378 Charles Johnson

Is anything up with the Pages function? Just getting the spinning wheel trying tp Page from ACLU, which happens to be an HTTPS site, not sure if that matters. Restarted my browser, no luck.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:30:39pm

re: #380 Archangelus

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Superglue should NOT be used for something like that…

Just put some Windex on it….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:30:52pm

re: #376 Sionainn

NO! Tell him to google how to temporarily glue a crown back on and he can see that he shouldn’t use Superglue.

fortunately, there is no Superglue in the house.

I’ve made certain of that as a result of certain difficulties in the past…

:D

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:31:16pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

fortunately, there is no Superglue in the house.

I’ve made certain of that as a result of certain difficulties in the past…

:D

Smart woman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:31:20pm

re: #385 Great White Snark

Is anything up with the Pages function? Just getting the spinning wheel trying tp Page from ACLU, which happens to be an HTTPS site, not sure if that matters. Restarted my browser, no luck.

https will not work with the Pages bookmarklet

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Jay C  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:32:46pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

I told him that, but what the hell do I know?
He just wants to use some Superglue and be done with it.

sigh.

In addition to all the other “Hell No!!” advice: Superglues (cyanoacrylates) are fairly toxic; NOT the stuff you want to have anywhere near the soft tissues in the mouth…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:32:53pm

MrBWS has heard the LizardNation and will NOT use the Superglue.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:32:57pm

The Dems are having fun tonight:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:33:21pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS has heard the LizardNation and will NOT use the Superglue.

He should always follow the advice of the memecats.

And the LizardNation.

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:33:23pm

I was in the car listening to the first debate. Fiorina was pretty articulate. If anyone on that stage can rip Jeb!, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich etc a new asshole in future debates, it’s her. Perry sounded angry and resented being in the first debate. Santorum’s butt-plug was too tight. Like Perry, he’s pissed off, but sounded plaintive in his responses…I’m conservative! Really I am! Lindsey Graham sounded (remember, I couldn’t see their faces) like he was auditioning for a Fox News correspondent role - zingers at Bill Clinton that he’d already been called on for being predictable, and a genuine desire to see Muslims bleed in the streets. Pataki and that other fucker from Virginia sounded like they should have run in the 2004 primary.

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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:33:51pm

re: #389 The Vicious Babushka

https will not work with the Pages bookmarklet

Thanks you Paged via that convenient little arrow button.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:34:14pm

BINGO!
graphics.latimes.com

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:35:17pm

re: #394 darthstar

I was in the car listening to the first debate. Fiorina was pretty articulate. If anyone on that stage can rip Jeb!, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich etc a new asshole in future debates, it’s her. Perry sounded angry and resented being in the first debate. Santorum’s butt-plug was too tight. Like Perry, he’s pissed off, but sounded plaintive in his responses…I’m conservative! Really I am! Lindsey Graham sounded (remember, I couldn’t see their faces) like he was auditioning for a Fox News correspondent role - zingers at Bill Clinton that he’d already been called on for being predictable, and a genuine desire to see Muslims bleed in the streets. Pataki and that other fucker from Virginia sounded like they should have run in the 2004 primary.

Oh, I forgot Booby Jindal. He should have let his kids talk him out of it.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:35:23pm

Hunter’s review of the JV (worth clicking just to see the “proud as punch” look on Rick Perry’s face/his very strange stance, and Lindsey doing the royal wave.)

dailykos.com

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:35:38pm

“…The Justice Department released a scathing report in March detailing numerous civil rights violations by police and concluding that the city court acted as much, or more as a revenue generator for the city than as a court, targeting black people for fines.
The municipal court judge, city manager and police chief resigned, and Ferguson and the Justice Department commenced discussions about reforming the police and court.
“We feel that what they are asking would financially ruin the city,” Councilman Brian Fletcher said this week.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:36:12pm

re: #394 darthstar

I was in the car listening to the first debate. Fiorina was pretty articulate. If anyone on that stage can rip Jeb!, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich etc a new asshole in future debates, it’s her. Perry sounded angry and resented being in the first debate. Santorum’s butt-plug was too tight. Like Perry, he’s pissed off, but sounded plaintive in his responses…I’m conservative! Really I am! Lindsey Graham sounded (remember, I couldn’t see their faces) like he was auditioning for a Fox News correspondent role - zingers at Bill Clinton that he’d already been called on for being predictable, and a genuine desire to see Muslims bleed in the streets. Pataki and that other fucker from Virginia sounded like they should have run in the 2004 primary.

So it looks like Fiorina is being groomed to go up to The Show, just like “Nuke” LaLoosh, but lacking a “Crash” Davis to mentor her.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:36:51pm

re: #399 jaunte

From the article:

“We feel that what they are asking would financially ruin the city,” Councilman Brian Fletcher said this week.

Well, no shit, Sherlock. That’s what happens when you make all your money persecuting minorities.

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:37:00pm
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jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:37:17pm

re: #401 thedopefishlives

“We might have to look for a job.”

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Unabogie  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:39:15pm

re: #401 thedopefishlives

From the article:

Well, no shit, Sherlock. That’s what happens when you make all your money persecuting minorities.

That’s really just unbelievable. If you can’t manage a city without subjecting its citizens to unfair targeting for low level fines, then you should resign. You suck at your job.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:40:30pm

re: #399 jaunte

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“We feel that what they are asking would financially ruin the city,” Councilman Brian Fletcher said this week.

Translation: “If we can’t keep shaking down minorities to make ends meet, we might have to raise taxes on white folks!”

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EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:42:17pm

re: #399 jaunte

Toughies. If reforming the Ferguson PD will bankrupt the city, so be it. It’s not as if tiny little jurisdictions each levying onerous fees on their residents is something that needs to be continued.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:44:23pm

This is what happens when you break up a major city into little fiefdoms, they each have to duplicate the functions of a larger government, and that duplication leads to costs that they can’t shoulder without either getting financial assistance from a higher sources or levying various fines and taxes on those least able to pay them. If Ferguson will collapse financially without the ability to keep using its poorest residents as a perpetual piggy bank, then perhaps the question is “Why does Ferguson exist in the first place?”

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:46:15pm

Hardball. It..is…alive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:48:12pm

re: #408 Kid A

Hardball. It..is…alive.

Can’t. Make. Me. Watch.

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Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:49:26pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can’t. Make. Me. Watch.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:49:31pm

I made some Carly memes. Feel free to Tweet.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:49:34pm

Bachmann is on MSNBC making a fool out of herself like always.

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:49:51pm
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thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:50:32pm

re: #412 Tigger2

Bachmann is on MSNBC making a fool out of herself like always.

I thought she was done with the spotlight. I should know better by now.

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:50:35pm

Ugh.

The Animas River flows through the town I was born in.

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:51:22pm

re: #414 thedopefishlives

I thought she was done with the spotlight. I should know better by now.

We were all hoping for that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:51:42pm

re: #410 Kid A

The Kid A always knows how to make The Backwoods Sleuth smile.

:D

418
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:52:02pm

Well, Lizards, I am off to the airport AGAIN but this time I get to go home and I will be there for more than 3 days. YAY.

Be kind to your livers tonight, at least alternate with water.

419
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:52:25pm

re: #413 darthstar

[Embedded content]

The empty “Z” stands for zits-for-brains.

420
BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:53:04pm

re: #412 Tigger2

Bachmann is on MSNBC making a fool out of herself like always.

One question. Why?

421
thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:53:46pm

re: #420 BeachDem

One question. Why?

Slow news day here in the wild north country.

422
EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:53:48pm

re: #413 darthstar

The US has many political problems.

Under-representation of the belligerently stupid is not one of them.

423
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:54:06pm

re: #411 The Vicious Babushka

I made this for tonight; tweeters feel free to attach your own caption.

424
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:54:21pm

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kid A always knows how to make The Backwoods Sleuth smile.

:D

The Kid A is pleased.

425
BeachDem  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:54:24pm

re: #413 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Looks like he spent as much time creating his acrostic as he did combing his hair.

426
Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:54:59pm

God, Steve Schmidt I though you were smarter than that, He said the Iran deal would start a war.

427
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:55:13pm

It suddenly smells fishy in here.

428
Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:55:16pm

re: #423 jaunte

Just. Brilliant.

429
thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:55:31pm

re: #427 Kid A

It suddenly smells fishy in here.

Sorry. I’ll show myself out.

430
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:55:38pm

TRUMPBLOB!

431
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:56:06pm

re: #423 jaunte

Embedded Image

I made this for tonight; tweeters feel free to attach your own caption.

I just dragged and dropped, and you named the file “trump blob,” LOL.

432
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:56:39pm
433
wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:57:16pm

re: #415 teleskiguy

Ugh.

The Animas River flows through the town I was born in.

[Embedded content]

Cheechako Paged it.

434
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:57:59pm

re: #426 Tigger2

God, Steve Schmidt I though you were smarter than that, He said the Iran deal would start a war.

And he defended Bachmann by saying she was just buying into Obama’s comments…WTF? Time for Chris to drop Steve from his regulars list.

435
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 4:58:42pm

re: #430 jaunte

TRUMPBLOB!

I just made it my Facebook avatar.

436
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:00:02pm
437
Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:00:03pm

re: #423 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I made this for tonight; tweeters feel free to attach your own caption.

Good God! What the heck is that?

438
Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:00:20pm

re: #432 darthstar

[Embedded content]

439
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:00:21pm
440
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:00:30pm

I was kinda sorta kidding about Ana Gasteyer playing Carly Fiorina on SNL, but Damn! Looka thishere:

441
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:01:31pm

re: #440 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I was kinda sorta kidding about Ana Gasteyer playing Carly Fiorina on SNL, but Damn! Looka thishere:

Embedded Image

Carley had some bad botox sessions and/or one face lift too many.

442
Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:02:18pm

Oh sweet jeebus. BillO is going to “just give the facts” about every candidate in the main debate before it starts.

443
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:02:37pm

re: #437 Sionainn

Good God! What the heck is that?

That’s the skinless id of the Republican base.

444
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:02:57pm
445
Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:03:08pm

re: #443 jaunte

That’s the skinless id of the Republican base.

LOL! But really, what is it?

446
Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:03:15pm

re: #442 Lidane

I don’t know how you can watch the Fox pre-game show.

447
No Depression  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:03:18pm

The Onion has a helpful guide on tonight’s debate:

What To Expect From Tonight’s GOP Debate

448
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:03:29pm

re: #445 Sionainn

LOL! But really, what is it?

TRUMPBLOB!!!

449
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:03:46pm

re: #445 Sionainn

It’s a blobfish. I saw the image and it reminded me of the Donald.

450
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:19pm

re: #442 Lidane

Oh sweet jeebus. BillO is going to “just give the facts” about every candidate in the main debate before it starts.

One of the few times I will intentionally watch Bill O’Reilly…and only because he’s fellating everyone who is going to be on stage.

451
SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:21pm

re: #426 Tigger2

God, Steve Schmidt I though you were smarter than that, He said the Iran deal would start a war.

He understands that MSNBC needs a little bit of derp from time to time.

452
Tigger2  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:22pm

re: #415 teleskiguy

Ugh.

The Animas River flows through the town I was born in.

[Embedded content]

Damn that’s sickening it’s a damn shame.

453
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:22pm

blobfish:
google.com

454
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:27pm

re: #449 jaunte

It’s a blobfish. I saw the image and it reminded me of the Donald.

It’s FUCKING BRILLIANT.

455
Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:04:44pm

re: #446 Major Tom

I don’t know how you can watch the Fox pre-game show.

I don’t have much choice since it’s on in the office. I can’t exactly turn it off.

456
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:05:10pm

re: #435 Kid A

I just made it my Facebook avatar.

The Kid A knows style when The Kid A sees it and seizes it.

457
Sionainn  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:05:55pm

re: #449 jaunte

It’s a blobfish. I saw the image and it reminded me of the Donald.

Just googled it. Gross!

458
Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:06:08pm

re: #455 Lidane

Nice to know it could always be worse.

459
alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:06:12pm

Yeah, that Santorum image on the front page that throbs on mouse over… not pleasant. Nope.

460
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:07:26pm
461
Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:07:54pm

re: #423 jaunte

Nice work! There are some talented people here.
I almost made a key thingie in Summer Camp.
The next year I almost made a pair of sandals.

462
Kid A  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:07:57pm

re: #460 jaunte

You can not make this shit up.

463
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:08:00pm

re: #459 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Yeah, that Santorum image on the front page that throbs on mouse over… not pleasant. Nope.

Wait until you click on the gif in my #436…

464
Lidane  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:08:24pm

re: #458 Major Tom

Nice to know it could always be worse.

I work for a conservative digital agency that works in politics. Damn near every client on the roster has an (R) after their name. There are some non-political clients, but on the politics side, it’s almost all GOP all the time. I’m here at the office with everyone until it’s over.

We’ve had food so far, but I haven’t seen any evidence of booze in my future. This is going to suck if I have to watch this shit sober.

465
Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:09:24pm

re: #459 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Yeah, that Santorum image on the front page that throbs on mouse over… not pleasant. Nope.

Did you absolutely have to put the words “Santorum” and “throbs” in the same cursed fucking sentence?

466
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:09:33pm

re: #464 Lidane

I work for a conservative digital agency that works in politics. Damn near every client on the roster has an (R) after their name. There are some non-political clients, but on the politics side, it’s almost all GOP all the time. I’m here at the office with everyone until it’s over.

We’ve had food so far, but I haven’t seen any evidence of booze in my future. This is going to suck if I have to watch this shit sober.

We will sacrifice and drink for you.

467
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:09:44pm

re: #462 Kid A

You can not make this shit up.

He doesn’t even know what Citizen Kane is about—he just knows everybody is supposed to say it’s their favorite film. Pretentious know-nothing blowhard!

468
Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:09:54pm

re: #464 Lidane

I’m empathetic to your plight, and have taken it upon myself to drink for both of us.

469
EPR-radar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:10:03pm

re: #450 darthstar

One of the few times I will intentionally watch Bill O’Reilly…and only because he’s fellating everyone who is going to be on stage.

It is “suck a golf ball through a garden hose” time, I suppose.

470
jaunte  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:10:04pm

re: #461 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m trying to make a patio but it’s too damn hot.

471
alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:11:03pm

re: #463 darthstar

but, but.. but, that gif is spot on!

472
Major Tom  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:11:10pm

re: #470 jaunte

so make a walk-in cooler.

473
darthstar  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:11:18pm
474
Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:12:21pm

re: #426 Tigger2

God, Steve Schmidt I though you were smarter than that, He said the Iran deal would start a war.

Well, that’s good, right? Isn’t that what every GOP pres candidate wants.

475
Zero Dark Thirsty  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:40:49pm

I believe the reason they had an empty audience is because they did not want another incident of Repubican voters booing loudly at a war veteran on national tv.. It does speak volumes about them afterall..

476
Zero Dark Thirsty  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:42:41pm

re: #474 Skip Intro

I was shocked at his remarks too.. he’s usually more sane.. and of course on Hardball Michelle Bachmann told outright lies as she did her entire time in congress. She remarked about Iran getting 1/2 trillion in $$ .. Sadly most people are not doing their homework and researching on google exactly what this deal entails, that is available, and not on rightwing sites but actual news sources.. Angers me beyond words.

477
Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:44:52pm

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Impressive-normally black squirrels don’t get that far south in Michigan. They usually don’t move father south than the Upper Lower Penninsula.

Then again, I’ve seen a number of white squirrels in the Twin Cities, so…..

478
Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 6, 2015 • 5:54:17pm

re: #392 Lidane

I’m gonna need two cans of FourLoko to wipe that one from my short term memory.

479
DobermanBoston  Aug 6, 2015 • 6:11:21pm

Did Marco Rubio just brag about being insolvent in his mid 30s?


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