Saturday Animation: The Casebook of Nips & Porkington

The Case of the Poached Egg
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Here’s a totally fun animated short film with a brilliant concept: the “world” of the characters is a newspaper.

A Sheridan 4th year animated short film done primarily in Toonboom Harmony and Photoshop.

www.nipsandporkington.tumblr.com
www.mellowatt.com
www.mellowatt.tumblr.com
https://www.facebook.com/Mellowattage

Film by Melody Wang
Score by Xintong Wang

Voice Talents
Elaine Wise as Constable Nips
Elliot Cowan as Porkington, the rat, and Mr. Goose
Kirsten Lloyd as Mrs. Goose

Mentors
Nancy Beiman
Bruno Degazio

Minions
Danial Darabi
Rui Hao
Jack Hincenbergs
Marissa Iavazzi
Ruby Xia
Xin Wu

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237 comments
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:58:42pm

Yay, general purpose thread! Here’s my photo of a stained glass window at Wakefield Cathedral in Yorkshire. There’s something anatomically wrong happening (and it’s safe for the kids to find).
A family actually paid for this in memory of their father…they should have had a proofreader…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:01:14pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

That left foot is a goofy right foot.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:04:21pm

By the way - you may notice there’s no longer a search field at the top right underneath the login panel. That’s because it’s now part of the navigation bar; clicking “Search” pops up a dialog with the search field in it.

You can also type Alt-F (for “Find”) to pop up the search dialog wherever you are on the page. (Control-Alt-F on a Mac.)

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LastYearsMan  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:06:42pm

Apologies if this has already been posted, but it seemed germane:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:10:10pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

That left foot is a goofy right foot.

Can’t sneak a thing pass the Lizard King!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:17:13pm

Greetings from Nawlins!

This picture was taken on the 28th floor of the Sheraton hotel just south of Bourbon. Wife and I are here celebrating my birthday. We were two hours late getting into the room but we did get an $80 bar credit.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:18:57pm

In today’s really bad idea category: Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Speech

A Seattle speech by Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was preempted in a chaotic confrontation Saturday afternoon with Black Lives Matter protesters, who took the stage and refused to let him speak.

After speeches by Seattle City Councilmember Kshama Sawant and state Sen. Pramila Jayapal at the Westlake Park rally for Social Security, a handful of protesters walked onto the stage and grabbed the microphone.

“If you do not listen to us, your event will be shut down,” one of the protesters told organizers, who relented and said they could speak before Sanders.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:18:59pm
Chocolate Bar/Rand Paul 2016!
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bratwurst  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:24:11pm
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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:26:47pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Happy Birthday!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:26:52pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

In today’s really bad idea category: Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Speech

As a democratic socialist of the Willy Brandt school for over thirty years, I’m not at all surprised. Forget it Jake, it’s Socialist Soap Opera Town.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:27:32pm

re: #8 De Kolta Chair

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I had a devil on my shoulder at the grocery store telling me to get a chocolate bar. I got mint chocolate chip gelato instead. In hindsight, I really wanted the chocolate. Dammit.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:29:01pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Many happy returns.

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blueraven  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:30:42pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

In today’s really bad idea category: Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Speech

It is these kind of tactics that can destroy the good will and momentum the movement has worked to build.

I really don’t get this.

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:37:01pm
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Unabogie  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:37:15pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

In today’s really bad idea category: Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Speech

IIRC, Occupy did the same thing. They took a public that was largely in agreement with their complaints and their goals, and turned themselves into a joke by refusing to organize and refusing to narrow their message.

In this case, the BLM leaders who keep disrupting Bernie Sanders are going to take Sanders loyalists, who are their natural allies, and turn them into enemies. That’s just dumb.

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:38:23pm

People don’t pay attention unless black folk get loud and break stuff. It’s messy, chaotic, and rife with risk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:38:55pm

re: #10 Jenner7

Happy Birthday!

Thanks. My actual birthday is the 14th but for time and money reasons I am celebrating this week.

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prairiefire  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:43:15pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Greetings from Nawlins!

Embedded Image

This picture was taken on the 28th floor of the Sheraton hotel just south of Bourbon. Wife and I are here celebrating my birthday. We were two hours late getting into the room but we did get an $80 bar credit.

Whoot, spend it wisely!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:44:29pm

re: #17 JadeHelmCurious

People don’t pay attention unless black folk get loud and break stuff. It’s messy, chaotic, and rife with risk.

The folk who get to be president are scary quiet and don’t break that much.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:45:52pm

re: #12 Pawn of the Oppressor

I had a devil on my shoulder at the grocery store telling me to get a chocolate bar. I got mint chocolate chip gelato instead. In hindsight, I really wanted the chocolate. Dammit.

Chocolate means FREEDOM!

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:47:41pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

An answer to why the govt monitors that movement. Just because you call yourself peaceful doesn’t mean all your members are.

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:52:54pm

These are still photos of Christian Taylor, the 19 year old who was shot by police. There is a press conference in about 10 minutes.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:54:07pm

re: #22 Nyet

An answer to why the govt monitors that movement. Just because you call yourself peaceful doesn’t mean all your members are.

Or that they’re necessarily members of your movement.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:55:26pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Or that they’re necessarily members of your movement.

No false scotsman is a member of my movement, that I can guarantee :)

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:57:13pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

In today’s really bad idea category: Black Lives Matter Protesters Shut Down Bernie Sanders Speech

I just posted this in a comment thread at Balloon Juice and I’ll post it here too:

Why doesn’t Bernie just take the time to schedule a ‘race’ speech and try to get this stuff behind him? Obama had to do it when the Wright stuff was getting out of hand. Bernie just doesn’t appear to be thoughtful about this. If he needs help writing the speech, he should get help, but he should really take the time to do it if he’s serious - maybe even take some questions. He needs to have a reaction to these protests.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:57:17pm

re: #16 Unabogie

Yep. OWS never disrupted a republican event but disrupted many a democrats. iirc, the OWS fans never had a problem with that.

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Unabogie  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:58:14pm

re: #23 Jenner7

These are still photos of Christian Taylor, the 19 year old who was shot by police. There is a press conference in about 10 minutes.

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I thought they said he was “robbing” the place. This looks like someone who got drunk or stoned and made a nuisance of himself. Does this shed any light on why police had to shoot him even though he was unarmed? And isn’t that the salient question?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:59:56pm

I need a warning popup when there’s a new thread, that says “Hey idiot, are you sure you don’t want to post this awesome comment in the spanky fresh new thread instead of this old dead moldering thread?”

Anway…

Bernie Sanders isn’t the problem. The problem is that his supporters are basically cognitively biased to the point of abject delusion.

Sanders might be able to win a general election, but there’s absolutely nothing in the polling data at this point to suggest he’d be a stronger candidate than Hillary. A person would have to completely turn off all objective analysis of the American electorate and substitute their own druthers to arrive at this conclusion right now.

Which isn’t to say that the landscape can’t change between now and when people start casting their primary votes, just that this is a patently ridiculously assertion to make at this point.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:01:19pm

re: #27 b.d.

Yep. OWS never disrupted a republican event but disrupted many a democrats. iirc, the OWS fans never had a problem with that.

That shit goes back at least to the ’60s. Asked why they were disrupting a Democratic function (perhaps the convention) an interest group leader replied “You protest your friends, you negotiate with your enemies”. Interestingly, I don’t remember who it was.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:04:07pm

Practical tip #2: if you’re in Lisbon, there is a bar in Bairro Alto, at the southern end of Rua da Rosa, with cheap-ass beer (1€/0.5l) and cocktails (4€/0.5l). In comparison with neighboring bars it’s a steal.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:06:20pm

re: #28 Unabogie

I thought they said he was “robbing” the place. This looks like someone who got drunk or stoned and made a nuisance of himself. Does this shed any light on why police had to shoot him even though he was unarmed? And isn’t that the salient question?

News reports say he drove a SUV through the dealerships window, as he doesn’t appear to be carrying one in as he enters the lot, he used one of theirs.
The police responded to a “burglary” call from the dealerships security company.

No, I’m not saying he should have been shot. But, he certainly wasn’t just minding his own business

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:08:12pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Bernie Sanders isn’t the problem. The problem is that his supporters are basically cognitively biased to the point of abject delusion.

This. But Bernie does have the power to lead on this and I’m hopeful he gets in front and addresses BLM.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:10:22pm

re: #33 JadeHelmCurious

This. But Bernie does have the power to lead on this and I’m hopeful he gets in front and addresses BLM.

What? There’s a problem with the Bureau of Land Management?

Oh, wait…

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:10:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:10:51pm

re: #26 stpaulbear

I just posted this in a comment thread at Balloon Juice and I’ll post it here too:

Why doesn’t Bernie just take the time to schedule a ‘race’ speech and try to get this stuff behind him? Obama had to do it when the Wright stuff was getting out of hand. Bernie just doesn’t appear to be thoughtful about this. If he needs help writing the speech, he should get help, but he should really take the time to do it if he’s serious - maybe even take some questions. He needs to have a reaction to these protests.

Yes, good point. He’s missing a real opportunity not just to get this issue behind him, but to show that he’s going to be there for African Americans.

But the BLM folks are also badly miscalculating the effect of these kinds of emotional demonstrations. The whole thing is a first class fustercluck.

I’m not even much of a fan of Bernie Sanders at this point, but he’s not handling this well at all.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:12:30pm

re: #33 JadeHelmCurious

This. But Bernie does have the power to lead on this and I’m hopeful he gets in front and addresses BLM.

It’s mildly irritating that Sanders will get a more civil reception at Liberty University than at the Westlake Park rally for Social Security. If he ever gives The Speech, I hope it’s 5 minutes on coalition building and a suggestion they grow the fuck up.

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:12:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:12:55pm
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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:13:26pm

The last tweet seems dead on. The Bernie bubble has never gotten over Bernie’s bad handling of BLM at Netroots Nation, refused to move on and double downed on it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:14:49pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

It’s mildly irritating that Sanders will get a more civil reception at Liberty University than at the Westlake Park rally for Social Security. If he ever gives The Speech, I hope it’s 5 minutes on coalition building and a suggestion they grow the fuck up.

Sanders is being used by Liberty University. He should never have agreed to do this. I know some people think he’s reaching across the aisle and trying to change minds, but please. Not gonna happen.

The cynical religious fanatics who run Liberty University are exploiting him for political gain.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:15:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:15:38pm

From my reading of the BLM interruption of Sanders’ Seattle event, it sounds like they came in belligerent, demanded to be heard, and then didn’t know what to do with the stage when they got it.

Sadly, I’m pretty sure that Red State et al. are loving this, much as they loved the slow, rolling implosion of the OWS movement. BLM needs leadership, because leaderless movements just don’t work.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:16:19pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Sanders is being used by Liberty University. He should never have agreed to do this. I know some people think he’s reaching across the aisle and trying to change minds, but please. Not gonna happen.

The cynical religious fanatics who run Liberty University are exploiting him for political gain.

He’s going nowhere, and probably knows it. Maybe he can penetrate to three budding theocrats and justify the airfare.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:16:29pm

It’s set break right now. They take the stage again pretty soon.

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Doofus  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:16:31pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

I found the two right feet in about ten seconds. My daughter, who is beginning her freshman year of nursing, couldn’t find it. I will let you all know where she is working in a few years.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:17:12pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

It’s mildly irritating that Sanders will get a more civil reception at Liberty University than at the Westlake Park rally for Social Security. If he ever gives The Speech, I hope it’s 5 minutes on coalition building and a suggestion they grow the fuck up.

It’s about as wise as disrupting people’s dinners to get your message across.

Protesters target 7 Decatur restaurants to bring awareness to black lives

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:17:18pm
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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:17:24pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Sanders is being used by Liberty University. He should never have agreed to do this. I know some people think he’s reaching across the aisle and trying to change minds, but please. Not gonna happen.

The cynical religious fanatics who run Liberty University are exploiting him for political gain.

Yup. It’s Falwell U. for Movement Conservatives. A training ground for narrow minds who own wide lawns with picket fences in their 1950’s fever dreams.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:18:03pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Sanders seems a bit aloof.

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:18:49pm

They said Taylor was inside the dealership building, they surrounded, then a struggle.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:18:56pm

Evening all,

Ok I’m getting in early…
If you have nothing better to do, here are two images.
Have fun with captions!

Free for LGF’ers to use as they seem fit.

Image 1:

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:19:10pm

BLM Seattle responds on facebook:

To the people of Seattle and ‪#𠃫ernieSanders‬ I am so sorry for what happened today in Seattle. I am a volunteer who just runs this page and I am only just starting to get into the movement. I was unaware of what happened and now that I’ve seen the video I would like to say again that I am sorry. That is not what Black Lives Matter stands for and that is not what we’re about. Do not let your faith in the movement be shaken by voices of two people. Please do not question our legitimacy as a movement. Again I would like to apologize to the people of Seattle and I will be trying to reach out to Mr. Sanders.

bbl. have to go pick up a pizza.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:19:20pm

Ok I’m getting in early…
If you have nothing better to do, here are two images.
Have fun with captions!

Free for LGF’ers to use as they seem fit.

Image 2:

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:19:54pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

He’s going nowhere, and probably knows it. Maybe he can penetrate to three budding theocrats and justify the airfare.

One of the religious right’s big complaints is that we on the left just deride them without paying attention to them. Sanders is paying attention to them. Let’s see what they make of that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:20:42pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Yup. It’s Falwell U. for Movement Conservatives. A training ground for narrow minds who own wide lawns with picket fences in their 1950’s fever dreams.

There’s 14,000 young people there, and another 100,000 or so will get electronic hook-in. He’ll find a bunch of malleable minds, probably among the disciplinary problems.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:21:47pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

There’s 14,000 young people there, and another 100,000 or so will get electronic hook-in. He’ll find a bunch of malleable minds, probably among the disciplinary problems.

Dancers! {gasp!}

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:22:16pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

It’s mildly irritating that Sanders will get a more civil reception at Liberty University than at the Westlake Park rally for Social Security. If he ever gives The Speech, I hope it’s 5 minutes on coalition building and a suggestion they grow the fuck up.

Most of the BLM ‘leaders’ are in their 20’s so I’ll cut them a little slack. Bernie is much older and hopefully can lead on this.

The reality is BLM isn’t something that’s a pet issue with black folk: people are dying under the weight of a biased justice system and it has reached a crisis level.. or, social media and technology has made us all aware that this crisis, known for a long time in the black community, is really happening and it’s now being documented.

Is this something for BLM to bring up as an issue to them, or should we acknowledge this is an issue affecting all of us? That’s the issue black folk have with white liberals. Bernie fans don’t seem to be getting it and this is the chasm.

Bernie can close that chasm.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:22:34pm

re: #57 austin_blue

Dancers! {gasp!}

Pool-players, right there in Lynchburg City.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:23:03pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

I love it when Sanders supporters say they’ll never vote for Hillary in the general election like I’m supposed to find that compelling.

They’re about as compelling as the gaggle of Ron Paul supporters standing on street corners screaming at people.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:23:04pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

From my reading of the BLM interruption of Sanders’ Seattle event, it sounds like they came in belligerent, demanded to be heard, and then didn’t know what to do with the stage when they got it.

Sadly, I’m pretty sure that Red State et al. are loving this, much as they loved the slow, rolling implosion of the OWS movement. BLM needs leadership, because leaderless movements just don’t work.

This is twice that Sanders has been confronted by BLM and twice that he and his people have totally been caught flatfooted and failed.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:23:06pm

re: #54 Usually refered to as anyways

Too long for a caption, but still:

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:23:30pm

re: #54 Usually refered to as anyways

You’re having way too much fun with The Donald.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:25:45pm

Wish me luck, lizards. I have an important job interview Monday morning with a company that I’d like to work for, and the beard stays!

Illustration by Stuart MacCabe

Fingers and sabers crossed.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:25:51pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

You’re having way too much fun with The Donald™.

FTFY

You don’t want to get sued!

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Usually refered to as anyways  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:27:31pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

You’re having way too much fun with The Donald.

Funny, that’s what my wife said too.

I am getting my fun in because my biggest hope would be that he runs as a third party, sadly that’s not likely to happen.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:27:45pm

re: #64 De Kolta Chair

Wish me luc,k if you please lizards. I have an important job interview Monday morning with a company that I’d like to work for, and the beard stays!

[Embedded content]

Fingers and sabers crossed.

Best of luck, good vibes being sent your way.

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:27:59pm

This is bad:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:28:31pm

re: #64 De Kolta Chair

Wish me luck, if you will, lizards. I have an important job interview Monday morning with a company that I’d like to work for, and the beard stays!

[Embedded content]

Fingers and sabers crossed.

Be sure to comb out the stems and seeds before the interview.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:29:19pm

Just read that press release from the Trump™ campaign about the RedState gathering and Megyn Kelly.

What. The. Fuck?!?
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:29:24pm

re: #67 b.d.

Best of luck, good vibes being sent your way.

Rightbackatcha, b.d. ;-)

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:29:35pm

nbcdfw.com

The full surveillance footage. Only a few minutes in and he’s doing damage to cars.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:31:22pm

re: #68 JadeHelmCurious

What a shithead.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:31:36pm

re: #64 De Kolta Chair

Wish me luck, lizards. I have an important job interview Monday morning with a company that I’d like to work for, and the beard stays!

[Embedded content]

Fingers and sabers crossed.

Hals- und Beinbruch!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:32:09pm

re: #69 Decatur Deb

Be sure to comb out the stems and seeds before the interview.

But I was thinking the seeds and stems would nail the gig. ;-)

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:32:21pm

If nothing else, and Bernie hasn’t a chance, the closing of the gap between white progressives and PoC could lead to better relations in the future. It may not matter anyway, I don’t believe Bernie fanatics would sit at home and not vote for Hillary against a GOP candidate.

There is no way in hell I’ll vote for any GOP candidate, no matter how bad Hillary is.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:33:22pm

re: #76 JadeHelmCurious

I watch some of the exchanges that go by on Twitter and …well, it is Twitter. I’m sort of hoping that’s what drives it and people aren’t this stupid in real life.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:34:11pm

re: #76 JadeHelmCurious

If nothing else, and Bernie hasn’t a chance, the closing of the gap between white progressives and PoC could lead to better relations in the future. It may not matter anyway, I don’t believe Bernie fanatics would sit at home and not vote for Hillary against a GOP candidate.

There is no way in hell I’ll vote for any GOP candidate, not matter how bad Hillary is.

If you go deep enough into any campaign, party, or movement you’ll eventually find snake-handlers.

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BongCrodny  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:34:47pm

It’s copyrighted, so it shouldn’t be posted — but this link is to The Week’s collection of the best editorial cartoons of the week.

The Jon Stewart cartoon is all kinds of awesome. Kudos to Steve Sack for this one.

theweek.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:35:05pm

re: #73 Nyet

What a shithead.

Yeah, “screaming white racists”? At a Bernie Sanders rally? In The Westlake Mall? Gimme a break!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:37:01pm

re: #74 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hals- und Beinbruch!

If I don’t break a leg, the arthritis surely will! ;-)

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:39:08pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why don’t they try disrupting a Republican rally for once?/

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:40:52pm

re: #82 Nyet

Why don’t they try disrupting a Republican rally for once?/

Because we don’t have those in Seattle?/ Seriously, though, maybe across the lake in Bellevue—or Belly-View as I always pronounce it….

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BongCrodny  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:41:05pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

You’re having way too much fun with The Donald.

I was going to write another letter to Donald Trump, but the whole campaign thing seems to have devolved from inspired lunacy to meanness in just two short days,

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BongCrodny  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:43:04pm

re: #54 Usually refered to as anyways

Ok I’m getting in early…
If you have nothing better to do, here are two images.
Have fun with captions!

Free for LGF’ers to use as they seem fit.

Image 2:

Embedded Image

Thank you thank you thank you! :-)

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:44:12pm

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:46:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:49:04pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:52:07pm

Well isn’t that special? An ornery mosquito thinks it can bite my leg off.

I gotta admit, it’s doing a damned good job of it.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:52:31pm
This is an echo of the old “dual loyalty” charge that has been lodged against American Jews since the day the State of Israel was established.

The president is not ignorant (the accusation he lays against his opponents) and must know he is here feeding a deep line of anti-Semitism that accuses of American Jews of getting America into wars.

That’s Elliott fucking Abrams accusing Obama of antisemitism.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:54:20pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Helping people register to vote would likely do them more tangible good than would disrupting anyone’s event.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:57:47pm

re: #90 Nyet

That’s Elliott fucking Abrams accusing Obama of antisemitism.

The guy who loved Israel so much he lied about Ollie’s arms sales to Iran.

en.wikipedia.org

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:58:26pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Was wondering whatever happened to all the Ralph Nader supporters.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:59:21pm

re: #93 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Was wondering whatever happened to all the Ralph Nader supporters.

Cremated in their Corvairs.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:59:23pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Should be rotting in prison, for all I care.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:05:49pm

I’m not even a fan of Hillary, but there’s a reason that she has been focusing on race in her major policy speeches.

Back then, as she wrestled uncomfortably in competing against the man who would become the first black president, Mrs. Clinton appeared reluctant to make race a central issue. And her husband, former President Bill Clinton, angered many African-American leaders with off-the-cuff comments that seemed to diminish Mr. Obama’s stature, including calling his antiwar position “the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

Now, Mrs. Clinton is offering sweeping and passionate speeches on race, which was one of the subjects that first drove her interest in politics in the 1960s and ’70s.

On Tuesday, she will hold a community meeting at a black church in Florissant, Mo., near Ferguson, where clashes between black protesters and police officers erupted last summer after an unarmed African-American teenager was killed by a white police officer. At the meeting, she plans to discuss the massacre of nine people last week at a black church in Charleston, S.C., and “broader issues around strengthening communities,” her campaign said.

The protest is getting uglier as a direct result of Bernie’s economic monomania. His campaign has been very slow to come off of the one size fits all idea that fixing the economy will fix the racial issues America faces. It won’t, and most people understand that intuitively. Sanders watched from backstage as BLM disrupted O’Malley’s presentation at NN, then Bernie went on stage and didn’t even try to adapt. He’s still not adapting, at least not fast enough. So as ugly and arguably counter productive as the Seattle protest today was, those are its roots.

If Sanders wants to broaden his appeal and show he can be competitive in a general election he needs to prove that he’s capable of reading the landscape and pivoting, he needs to show people that he can think on his feet. Because right now he’s floundering badly, and his supporters are responding with little more than open hostility and condescension. If he wants the vote of people who care about the BLM movement he’s going to have to earn it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:06:07pm

re: #58 JadeHelmCurious

Most of the BLM ‘leaders’ are in their 20’s so I’ll cut them a little slack. Bernie is much older and hopefully can lead on this.

The reality is BLM isn’t something that’s a pet issue with black folk: people are dying under the weight of a biased justice system and it has reached a crisis level.. or, social media and technology has made us all aware that this crisis, known for a long time in the black community, is really happening and it’s now being documented.

Is this something for BLM to bring up as an issue to them, or should we acknowledge this is an issue affecting all of us? That’s the issue black folk have with white liberals. Bernie fans don’t seem to be getting it and this is the chasm.

Bernie can close that chasm.

I’d say that it’s less a crisis level matter than it is a moment of opportunity. Let’s be honest - unarmed black people have been gunned down by police for decades. This is not new. Black people have known this was going on all along, but to be honest, even we liberal whites have mostly never quite grasped the depth of the problem. NOW, with the omnipresence of videorecording, we are finally learning that.

This is a moment of opportunity. People who had no idea this was going on are shocked, appalled. They want to do something about it. The rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ as a statement shows that. Black Lives Matter the movement has a window, and it needs to be used wisely.

Disrupting NN? That made perfect sense. It was saying, “We are being killed out here, and now you see it as we see it. You cannot take us for granted. You need to do something, not just the same old business-as-usual. Now what are we going to do about it?” It’s fair to present this as a demand. They are part of our coalition and have earned it.

But what to do next?

Movements that are effective need to be able to articulate goals that are specific and reachable. “End White Supremacy” is a great overarching goal, but it’s too big as a demand, without achievable concrete steps on the way. Sure, we need to make a radical change in society, but it will only happen in stages. So BLM needs to articulate those stages.

What I fear is that BLM goes the way of OWS. OWS also began at a moment of opportunity, when Wall Street had nearly driven us off a cliff. But their insistence on being leaderless, and having no articulatable goals led to them becoming a joke. Today’s little fiasco, where BLM disrupted Sanders’ event, demanded to be heard, and then blew the opportunity by not having a plan to use the time to their advantage? That is EXACTLY the kind of thing that will marginalize BLM and turn it into a bad joke.

They seem to need leadership, and fast, and it has to come from within the black community. Bernie can lead to some extent, he can’t lead BLM.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:06:44pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:08:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:08:47pm

I suggested that BLM should focus more on GOP events, and got immediately attacked. All righty then.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:11:24pm

re: #95 Nyet

Should be rotting in prison, for all I care.

In one of those taxpayer privately owned prisons, for irony’s sake.

Speaking of which, I’m not at all a fan of my governor, Andrew Cuomo, but he has closed a number of those commercially-owned pens.

Good on him for that, but he’s still an arrogant arsehole.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:14:56pm

Frankly BLM isn’t even really my issue. I mean, I nominally care about it of course, but externally, because being whiter than fuck all that’s my privilege.

What really concerns me about Sanders’ inability to respond proactively so far is that the ability to react constructively events as they unfold, and to speak extemporaneously is something that, thanks to Obama, I’ve come to expect from the President of the United States.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:16:13pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

I suggested that BLM should focus more on GOP events, and got immediately attacked. All righty then.

BLM has no leverage with the modern GOP, it’s just a few steps away from protesting a Klan rally.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:19:37pm

Ted Nugent: What About Lion-On-Lion Crime?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:20:59pm

I just left a RWNJ deflated like I burned up his favorite Teddy Bear. His new found love is a guy who thinks every social issue needs more cops. He feeds the southside of Milwaukee with its ravenous appetite for bigotry well. This happened too.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:24:55pm

The poor Bernie Bubble folks over at DailyKos are really having a rough go of it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:26:12pm

We’re at the point in the 2016 election where people should be building alliances. It’s disturbing to see groups who should be natural allies attacking each other for purely emotional reasons. It’s like a mirror image of what’s going on in the GOP with Donald Trump.

Politics is hard. It means putting aside emotion sometimes, in order to gain the leverage you need to get into a position where you can actually bring about change.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:26:30pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

Do I really have to ask why you attached the police record? Am I magically supposed to know its significance?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:26:48pm

I like Bernie Sanders. I hope Biden and others get in. I would love to see Feingold make a go.

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Viscous Obama  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:26:51pm

Fer chrissakes, I’m seeing Bernie supporters treat the BLM incursion as a politically motivated smear campaign instigated by a Hillary allied Soros, linking a Washington Times story that links Frontpage that links… Dim Hoft!

The protest was idiotic penny-ante bullshit and it’s bringing out the worst reactions from liberals. I’ve seen enough Republicans hijack civil discourse at hall meetings to score points, and it fucking hurts to see it from the left. People who support Trump are laughing at us.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:28:29pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

I like Bernie Sanders. I hope Biden and others get in. I would love to see Feingold make a go.

Feingold is running for his old Senate seat

russfeingold.com

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:29:15pm

I don’t understand what the BLM activists are trying to accomplish, other than shoot themselves in the foot.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:29:35pm

re: #108 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Yeah. Bob Donovan is a right wing local politician that produces nothing but failure for my old neighborhood. He is righteous and proper though. Except when he’s you know, peeping through holes for kicks.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:30:14pm

re: #111 b.d.

Totally. I’m on his mailing list and man we sure need him.

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:30:42pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:32:14pm

My ornery mosquito and I have arrived at an agreement: she can bite freely, but voting for a Repugnican is a no no.

Evolution and all that.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:33:31pm

re: #113 Amory Blaine

Yeah. Bob Donovan is a right wing local politician that produces nothing but failure for my old neighborhood. He is righteous and proper though. Except when he’s you know, peeping through holes for kicks.

And that’s the only record? It’s 23 years old, there isn’t a corresponding court document or anything? It doesn’t have a name, the officer’s name, or anything substantial to make it verifiable or specific.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:35:11pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

I really think you should take this somewhere else.

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Viscous Obama  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:36:23pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

I wonder if that image was where the original LUAP NOR meme originated

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:36:30pm

OK.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:37:50pm

re: #110 Viscous Obama

The people who disrupted the town hall meetings wound up having a profound effect on congress. They got a lot of what they wanted. Granted, the media ate them up and gave them attention that was beyond their actual numbers, but they scared the hell out of legislators.

If only BLM could get as much media attention. But the reason that BLM exists is because the media doesn’t act like BLM.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:38:45pm

I could rattle off a litany of shit this assclown is guilty of. Recently he was one of 3 (stooges) that voted against lowering a 1 oz. charge from 500 to 50. I didn’t know I had to post every fucking malfeasance.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:39:46pm

re: #121 stpaulbear

You know what scares legislators? People who actually turn out to vote. Teabaggers turn out to vote in off year elections. Democrats don’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:40:27pm

re: #112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I don’t understand what the BLM activists are trying to accomplish, other than shoot themselves in the foot.

You protest the people most likely to agree with your message, if you think they’re ignoring you. Protesting those who are least likely to agree is pointless. The thing is, you can’t just protest. You need to be able to say something cogent, if your demand to be heard is granted. Do that, and you provide an opportunity for both yourself and the candidate you’re protesting to make common cause.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:40:47pm

re: #120 Amory Blaine

OK.

See? Now we are all happy shiny people again!

And for the better. That was getting a tad uncomfortable.

Harumph, harumph.

And you kids get off my lawn!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:41:11pm

Fuck him.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:42:51pm

re: #122 Amory Blaine

I could rattle off a litany of shit this assclown is guilty of. Recently he was one of 3 (stooges) that voted against lowering a 1 oz. charge from 500 to 50. I didn’t know I had to post every fucking malfeasance.

I’m fine if you want to cite his voting record. That can be verified. I’m insulted that you think you can post any piece of shit and expect it to be accepted. Dark Falcon doesn’t get that courtesy, no one should get that.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:44:56pm

re: #126 Amory Blaine

Fuck him.

Twice, thrice and, to coin a phrase, fwice.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:45:37pm

I’m not talking about myself. I am with a RWNJ that didn’t give a shit about any of the policy issues I disagree with. He didn’t give a shit. Until I told him about the peeping incident. Then he deflated. Whatever. You can’t deal with it. OK.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:45:38pm

re: #126 Amory Blaine

Fuck him.

Noted. You don’t like him. You think he’s a hypocrite. But this is local politics and small beer on an international Board like LGF.

Just sayin’…

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:46:20pm

I never said anything about hypocrisy.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:46:31pm

Again, Sanders’ campaign had the opportunity to nip this in the bud over three weeks ago, and every week since. I get that people want to deplore the tactics here, and that’s a valid complaint.

On the other hand unarmed black people keep getting killed by cops / are inexcusably dying in police custody. It doesn’t take much empathy to understand where the anger and frustration are coming from.

Meanwhile, the GOP is fracturing over unprecedented support for a sociopathic racist woman hating billionaire.

I know which side I’m glad to be on.

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:47:36pm

re: #129 Amory Blaine

Just speaking for myself, I couldn’t figure out where you were going with it. It makes sense with this comment. Some of us just wanted an explanation of why we should pay attention.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:48:01pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:48:08pm

re: #130 austin_blue

Noted. You don’t like him. You think he’s a hypocrite. But this is local politics and small beer on an international Board like LGF.

Just sayin’…

Don’t underestimate the importance of local politics. I’m just disgusted that he/she waved such a worthless image in front of us as if he/she thinks we just blindly accept anything on the internet.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:51:12pm

re: #129 Amory Blaine

“You can’t deal with it. OK.”

What the heck is THAT supposed to mean? Did you even read my responses? That image is worthless. Anybody could have created that. If this guy is such an awful human being you shouldn’t need to post something so patently weak (at best) or mendacious (at worst) to make your point.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:51:57pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Again, Sanders’ campaign had the opportunity to nip this in the bud over three weeks ago, and every week since. I get that people want to deplore the tactics here, and that’s a valid complaint.

On the other hand unarmed black people keep getting killed by cops / are inexcusably dying in police custody. It doesn’t take much empathy to understand where the anger and frustration are coming from.

Meanwhile, the GOP is fracturing over unprecedented support for a sociopathic racist woman hating billionaire.

I know which side I’m glad to be on.

You are exactly correct, and it is the soft, warm, gooey, marshmallowy goodness in the middle of the S’more to watch it happen.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:52:28pm

Let’s discuss Bob Donovan’s 1992 citation for disorderly conduct

Here you go Sherlock.

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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:52:56pm

re: #22 Nyet

An answer to why the govt monitors that movement. Just because you call yourself peaceful doesn’t mean all your members are.

An easily abused excuse as well. That’s hardly violence.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:54:18pm

Meanwhile in outer space…

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:55:45pm
To liven things up….
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:56:40pm

re: #138 Amory Blaine

Let’s discuss Bob Donovan’s 1992 citation for disorderly conduct

Here you go Sherlock.

Why didn’t you do that in the first place?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:58:33pm

Yeah 1 link out of a 1000, whatever Big Steve.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:00:03pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

Yeah 1 link out of a 1000, whatever Big Steve.

?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:00:04pm

I find it insulting that the first fucking place you go to is that it’s fake. I dare you to find any fake shit in my history. You’re just an asshole. But I love you. Can’t people have love and think the other is an asshole?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:00:14pm

re: #142 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

re: #143 Amory Blaine

Don’t make me stop this car!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:01:26pm
LET IT GO. LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:02:04pm

Beef tenderloin for dinner tonight. ;)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:02:12pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me stop this car!

He keeps putting his foot on my side.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:02:29pm

re: #148 GlutenFreeJesus

Beef tenderloin for dinner tonight. ;)

External image

You’re available to come cook for me tomorrow, right?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:04:09pm

re: #150 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If only. lol

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bratwurst  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:04:25pm

Regarding the back and forth between Hillary and Bernie fans online and elsewhere: there is clearly a strain within the Democratic electorate that is jealous of all of the sniping GOP primary voters get to do with each other over matters of ideological purity.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:04:58pm

re: #135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Don’t underestimate the importance of local politics. I’m just disgusted that he/she waved such a worthless image in front of us as if he/she thinks we just blindly accept anything on the internet.

Hey, local politics is vital to *me*.

It’s just generally boring as shit to someone not living here, because of a lack of context, so I don’t generally make it a Thing on LGF.

But if you want to see a circus, Google Dr. Laura Pressley, who ran for a City Council seat last fall and lost by 30 points. She has been contesting the election results ever since.

She has a PhD, is a vaxer, an anti-fluoridationist, and a not unfrequent guest on Alex Jones, addressing the pollution of our Precious Bodily Fluids (“Ice cream, Mandrake. Little children’s ice cream.”).

She’s a hoot!

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:05:05pm

re: #16 Unabogie

IIRC, Occupy did the same thing. They took a public that was largely in agreement with their complaints and their goals, and turned themselves into a joke by refusing to organize and refusing to narrow their message.

In this case, the BLM leaders who keep disrupting Bernie Sanders are going to take Sanders loyalists, who are their natural allies, and turn them into enemies. That’s just dumb.

Some folks just want to be noticed, and for them the disruption of the event is the point. Sometimes this is because the people in question just don’t want to do the hard work of putting together reform proposals, other times the they don’t put forward proposals because they want someone else to make the first substantive mood.

Still other times, the protestors have a hard time engaging the lawmaking process out of distrust for said process. And then there are thos who don’t make substantive moves because to do so would cause divisions within their own ranks and they fear that too much.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:05:20pm

re: #151 GlutenFreeJesus

If only. lol

Gah.

I have to get my sister moved in to start her internship tomorrow too. Three hours each way!

But then I don’t have to drive anywhere for TWO WHOLE WEEKS, except for a local park.

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Snarknado!  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:06:43pm

re: #145 Amory Blaine

I’m posting from cover, so don’t waste ammo on me… but your first post didn’t make senee. If you’d ended it with “and then I showed him this (document), and he deflated like a burst balloon, we’d have gotten it, I think.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:07:38pm

re: #152 bratwurst

Regarding the back and forth between Hillary and Bernie fans online and elsewhere: there is clearly a strain within the Democratic electorate that is jealous of all of the sniping GOP primary voters get to do with each other over matters of ideological purity.

Moonbats are a thing, separate and distinct from the mess of dudebros and wingnuts.

They’re just a thing that hasn’t been a thing much recently, but now there is a candidate they think thinks like them, so expect to hear more.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:07:56pm

re: #152 bratwurst

Regarding the back and forth between Hillary and Bernie fans online and elsewhere: there is clearly a strain within the Democratic electorate that is jealous of all of the sniping GOP primary voters get to do with each other over matters of ideological purity.

Now, see, that’s funny.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:08:18pm

re: #140 De Kolta Chair

Meanwhile in outer space…

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To clarify my point, Kasich talks the talk but walks the same old RW walk. He’s Huckabee Lite.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:09:12pm
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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:09:42pm

re: #153 austin_blue

I think I’ve read about her on Juanita Jean’s blog. She takes local politics and makes them a hoot! And infuriating!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:10:02pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

I was hoping it was going to use its tongue. So much disappoint.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:11:30pm

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

To clarify my point, Kasich talks the talk but walks the same old RW walk. He’s Huckabee Lite.

How so? He’s not a theocrat, after all.

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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:11:48pm

well, I’m off to bed. Gotta get up early because I’m an idiot and left my mask and weight bags at the shop today. That’s going to turn my 30 minute drive to the dive park into about an hour trip. Excited to be helping staff the demo for one of our suppliers, they have some gear that I’m anxious to take a look at, and see if I can cut a good deal on some stuff.

Have a good evening you all…

RBS

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:12:28pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

How so? He’s not a theocrat, after all.

I think they’re all theocrats, Huckabee’s just more open about it.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:12:32pm

re: #156 Snarknado!

Yes. Too vague. I assume I have friends here that understand my position maybe too liberally. I’ll try and be more careful.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:12:51pm

Hey guys been a while. Hope all is well. Another disappointed on the old job hunt but outside of that, life is good. Good time at the beach.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:13:08pm

I give up.

I have this recipe for braised boneless beef shortribs. They’re braised in red wine, tomatoes, a little ‘Better Than Boullion’, with onions, garlic, and carrots. They reach the perfect consistency (the one you always imagine in the perfect pot roast) after three or so hours of simmering. Then I strain out the solids, reduce the liquid, add just a bit of cornstarch to tighten it. Serve with polenta, or mashed tatoes.

It’s fucking great. Best slow cooked beef dish I’ve ever had. The wife and kids fucking love it! A bit of work, especially at the end, but well worth the trouble.

Then, while the Older Boy and I were visiting the Older Boy’s Girlfriend at her job at Williams Sonoma, I spied some Braising Sauces, put out by Anchor Brewery. I buy them. I used one to make shortribs, just browning the meat, tossing it in the pot with the braising sauce, and cook for 3 hours. Easy-Peasy.

The wife and kids declare it better than mine. MUCH better than mine.

Ungrateful bastards.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:13:26pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

I think they’re all theocrats, Huckabee’s just more open about it.

They all flirt with it for sure.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:13:47pm

re: #161 retired cynic

I think I’ve read about her on Juanita Jean’s blog. She takes local politics and makes them a hoot! And infuriating!

She’s as crazy as a shithouse mouse, and just got ordered to pay her opponent over $100, 000 in legal fees she has forced him to incur to indulge her monomania.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:14:20pm

The original reason I was going to post was to observe that radio station websites used to have a “listen live” link. Now when I click it I have to login with my Facebook ID or Google ID or some such. I don’t do it because I am distrustful, even though my facebook page is empty. What benefit is it to the stations to require our id’s to listen to them online. We don’t need them to listen over the air? I have asked, and the people who answer say that it is intended to enhance the listener’s experience (IOW, Beat it kid).

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:14:44pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

I think they’re all theocrats, Huckabee’s just more open about it.

I don’t agree. Opposition to abortion is not in and of itself a “theocratic” position. Theocracy requires far more than that, or else you’d have to call nations like Poland theocrasies.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:15:22pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

How so? He’s not a theocrat, after all.

He will be if he’s still in the race come January.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:17:10pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree. Opposition to abortion is not in and of itself a “theocratic” position. Theocracy requires far more than that, or else you’d have to call nations like Poland theocrasies.

I think Poland has some of the strictest laws concerning blasphemy. Not really the best example. I agree that opposition to abortion doesn’t necessarily make one a theocrat but I definitely think pretty much all the GOP candidates flirt with theocratic ideology.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:17:27pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

How so? He’s not a theocrat, after all.

No he is not, but he’s just another corporate shill. Actually, I agree with what he said about the rights of cons and ex-cons, but his party sure doesn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:18:17pm

re: #175 De Kolta Chair

No he is not, but hes another corporate shill.

Which is another flavor of shit sandwich.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:19:32pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

I give up.

I have this recipe for braised boneless beef shortribs. They’re braised in red wine, tomatoes, a little ‘Better Than Boullion’, with onions, garlic, and carrots. They reach the perfect consistency (the one you always imagine in the perfect pot roast) after three or so hours of simmering. Then I strain out the solids, reduce the liquid, add just a bit of cornstarch to tighten it. Serve with polenta, or mashed tatoes.

It’s fucking great. Best slow cooked beef dish I’ve ever had. The wife and kids fucking love it! A bit of work, especially at the end, but well worth the trouble.

Then, while the Older Boy and I were visiting the Older Boy’s Girlfriend at her job at Williams Sonoma, I spied some Braising Sauces, put out by Anchor Brewery. I buy them. I used one to make shortribs, just browning the meat, tossing it in the pot with the braising sauce, and cook for 3 hours. Easy-Peasy.

The wife and kids declare it better than mine. MUCH better than mine.

Ungrateful bastards.

This is a powerful lesson. Don’t try to compete with *anything* associated with the Anchor Brewing Company. Everything, EVERYTHING they touch is as golden as a new bright shiny double eagle.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:20:25pm

Even if the guy isn’t a theocrat, he’ll have to make a deal with them if he wants power. He certainly isn’t going to tell any theocrats to take a hike.

I’ve made similar comparisons in the past. George H Bush in 1988 was a shadow of the man he was in 1980. John McCain, same 2008 vs 2000. George W Bush was never really his own man and just sold right out at the beginning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:20:56pm

re: #177 austin_blue

This is a powerful lesson. Don’t try to compete with *anything* associated with the Anchor Brewing Company. Everything, EVERYTHING they touch is as golden as a new bright shiny double eagle.

Clearly, then, you’ve never had their Spruce Beer.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:22:17pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

I think Poland has some of the strictest laws concerning blasphemy. Not really the best example. I agree that opposition to abortion doesn’t necessarily make one a theocrat but I definitely think pretty much all the GOP candidates (are forced to) flirt with theocratic ideology (if they want to be viable candidates in the primaries).

There.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:22:17pm

re: #178 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Even if the guy isn’t a theocrat, he’ll have to make a deal with them if he wants power. He certainly isn’t going to tell any theocrats to take a hike.

I’ve made similar comparisons in the past. George H Bush in 1988 was a shadow of the man he was in 1980. John McCain, same 2008 vs 2000. George W Bush was never really his own man and just sold right out at the beginning.

A great point.

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prairiefire  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:23:08pm

re: #177 austin_blue

Meh, they are pretty close to mainstream. They still have a bit of a tinny taste.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:23:11pm

re: #180 austin_blue

There.

Yeah. Pretty much the case. You’re not getting anywhere in a GOP primary if you express that separation of church and state is a good thing.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:23:31pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Which is another flavor of shit sandwich.

There’s an old French adage: everyone has to eat their piece of shite, but make mine as small as possible, please.

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:23:56pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree. Opposition to abortion is not in and of itself a “theocratic” position. Theocracy requires far more than that, or else you’d have to call nations like Poland theocrasies.

You don’t have to be a theocracy to have theocratic laws. Why exactly does Poland outlaw abortion. Maybe the Catholic Church is involved? Possibly?

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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:25:08pm

re: #184 De Kolta Chair

There’s an old French adage: everyone has to eat their piece of shite, but make mine as small as possible.

What if it’s braised in a product from Anchor Brewing?

RBS

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:25:11pm

re: #185 calochortus

You don’t have to be a theocracy to have theocratic laws. Why exactly does Poland outlaw abortion. Maybe the Catholic Church is involved? Possibly?

Last I checked, I think it was involved. Also, there are laws in Poland which impede on the rights of LGBTQI people.

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prairiefire  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:25:12pm

re: #184 De Kolta Chair

Or seasoned with special sauce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:28:30pm

re: #184 De Kolta Chair

There’s an old French adage: everyone has to eat their piece of shite, but make mine as small as possible.

On a single piece of melba toast, please, rather than the $5 Footlong version. Because anyone on that stage on Thursday, whether in the Minors or the Majors, would be a gigantic shit hoagie.

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:28:56pm

Entirely off topic, but I have just completed going through several years worth of Fine Cooking magazines and cutting out the things that interest me. I put those articles/recipes in what used to be one binder, but I had to expand to two this time around. I still have to do some organizing within categories, but I’ve cleared out some shelf space and put the good recipes where I might actually see them and try them.
Yay, me!

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:29:58pm

re: #186 RealityBasedSteve

What if it’s braised in a product from Anchor Brewing?

RBS

Better tasting shit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:32:00pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

Blasphemers!

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:33:43pm

In other news, a German news anchor lost it over xenophobes… On air…
…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:34:54pm

re: #192 GlutenFreeJesus

Blasphemers!

inorite?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:35:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:35:40pm

re: #193 Teukka

In other news, a German news anchor lost it over xenophobes… On air…
[Embedded content]

Video

Summary for us non-German speakers?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:38:49pm

re: #190 calochortus

Entirely off topic, but I have just completed going through several years worth of Fine Cooking magazines and cutting out the things that interest me. I put those articles/recipes in what used to be one binder, but I had to expand to two this time around. I still have to do some organizing within categories, but I’ve cleared out some shelf space and put the good recipes where I might actually see them and try them.
Yay, me!

I was gonna do that with some Bon Appetit magazines, for years. Finally last year I accepted the fact that not only was I never going to do that, but also that I was never likely to open them again.

This seemed a reasonable conclusion, since they dated to 1981 and I hadn’t looked at them since 1990.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:39:52pm
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bratwurst  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:40:16pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Summary for us non-German speakers?

Let your voice be heard against hate on the internet.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:40:46pm

re: #193 Teukka

In other news, a German news anchor lost it over xenophobes… On air…
[Embedded content]

Guardian arkle about the event: theguardian.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:41:04pm

re: #198 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Bingo.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:42:59pm

re: #199 bratwurst

Let your voice be heard against hate on the internet.

re: #200 Teukka

Guardian arkle about the event: theguardian.com

Thanks guys. Good for her. Nice to see this out of a journalist.

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:43:07pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

I was gonna do that with some Bon Appetit magazines, for years. Finally last year I accepted the fact that not only was I never going to do that, but also that I was never likely to open them again.

This seemed a reasonable conclusion, since they dated to 1981 and I hadn’t looked at them since 1990.

I know the feeling. Most many of these I will actually use. However, I can’t let the recipe collection grow too much bigger than it currently is, or the recipes will become as lost in the binders as they were in the magazines. Past a certain point I just won’t ever go through a huge pile of stuff. The secret is culling every so often. Fortunately I don’t mind doing that.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:44:42pm

When I find it slightly difficult, due to drink or what not, to spell a simple word like “the” I have wonder what Reince Priebus’s excuse is.

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:46:16pm

re: #204 De Kolta Chair

When I find it slightly difficult, due to drink or what not, to spell a simple word like “the” I have wonder what Reince Priebus’s excuse is.

Well, if I were the chair of the RNC, I’d be using mind-altering substances on a daily basis.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:49:25pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:51:06pm
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:53:31pm
“… Even Ted Cruz was revealed to have human characteristics, specifically those of a debate-team coach at a Baptist women’s college. We must exempt the current GOP front-runner from this group hug, of course, since Donald Trump actually is an ogre, which is the source of his immense and alarming public appeal. We’re not talking about the lovable ogre from “Shrek,” either; Trump is more like Polyphemus, the Cyclops who eats several of Odysseus’ men and then passes out drunk on the floor, trapping everybody in the cave. ”
salon.com
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:55:19pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

I’m not even a fan of Hillary, but there’s a reason that she has been focusing on race in her major policy speeches.

Hillary’s first event back in May, before her first speech, in South Carolina was a roundtable with minority small business owners.

Columbia, SC (WLTX) At the forefront of her campaign is Hillary Clinton’s push for Equal Pay and helping women succeed. She continued that path on Wednesday by meeting with six female minority business owners.

wltx.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:56:19pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Thanks guys. Good for her. Nice to see this out of a journalist.

From the Guardian article:

Her appeal came a day after the head of the intelligence service, Hans-Georg Maassen, warned that a small number of rightwing extremists were in danger of escalating a wave of attacks.

He made specific mention of the group Der III Weg or “The Third Way”, calling them “dangerous rabble-rousers”.

So…anything “3rd Way” is always bad news….?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:56:55pm

If you’re up for a grilled cheese, get your arses over here while the broiler’s hot. Plenty of sourdough and provolone for all, my friends.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:57:15pm

re: #210 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From the Guardian article:

So…anything “3rd Way” is always bad news….?

“Third way” is fascism IIRC.

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:57:47pm

Okay, so this happened:

I was sitting here reading the erudite postings of fellow Lizards when suddenly there came a loud “Squeee!!” from the kitchen. I thought that it might be a rat grabbed by an owl, but then I thought, “I have neither owls nor rats in the kitchen.” Next thought:

I just lost a water pipe!

Oh, shit. I run into the kitchen and fluids are indeed spraying into the underside of one cabinet.

She Who Must Be Obeyed makes homemade ginger beer in the summer. It is slightly alcoholic and tremendously refreshing in the Texas heat, over ice. We got some quart bottles that look like big Grolsch bottles (lever mechanisms, ceramic caps and rubber grommet seals), and the internal pressure of the fermenting beer had pushed a seal out of its seat. SWMBO is in Houston this weekend doing rehearsals for an upcoming gig, BTW.

Squeee!!!

So I grab the bottle, and put it in the sink and put may hand over it until it settles down. Then I decide (forgetting the first rule of pressure vessels, that just because the pressure relief valve has closed, that there is no more pressure in the vessel) that I need to reseat the seal. So I unlock the mechanism to do so.

And had a pint of mostly fermented ginger beer erupt into may face. Haha! The joke (and the beer) was on me! By the way, raw ginger shot up your nose at a significant velocity makes you snort and perform a St. Vitus Dance around the kitchen.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:59:52pm

This is what I’m talking about, Bernie needs to show he can sack up and confront the issue head on. He is turning BLM into a bogieman instead of a demographic whose vote he needs to win.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:00:48pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

“Third way” is fascism IIRC.

I was just remembering the “3rd Way” (i.e. Republican-lite) Democrats. Sounds like Hillary is starting to move left from that, which is good. She was always to the left of Bill, of course.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:02:06pm

re: #215 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I was just remembering the “3rd Way” (i.e. Republican-lite) Democrats. Sounds like Hillary is starting to move left from that, which is good. She was always to the left of Bill, of course.

Oh yeah there’s that too. That’s also British New Labour.

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:03:03pm

re: #213 austin_blue

My husband’s family treasures the memory of the explosions that occurred one year when his mother made ginger ale…

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:04:10pm

Here is how the population of southeast Wisconsin is approached about all the tremendous lies that are being spread about PP. Like fucking children.

Used responsibly, fetal tissue has led to medical advances

“used responsibly” is a qualifier based in bullshit.

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prairiefire  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:05:28pm

Enjoying “Dr. Who” season 8 on Netflix. I’ve had a crush on Peter Capaldi for decades.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:11:11pm

re: #193 Teukka

In other news, a German news anchor lost it over xenophobes… On air…
[Embedded content]

Heh. Random wingnut when I posted the Guardian link to the story:
“Shes funny ,she talks like hitler.”
(Capitalization and spacing fail his, not mine).
Edit:
The he said
“They still cooking up the jews in germany these days?”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:11:17pm

Sweet dreams, my friends

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calochortus  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:18:54pm

Good night, Lizards. Hasta mañana.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:23:27pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Hey guys been a while. Hope all is well. Another disappointed on the old job hunt but outside of that, life is good. Good time at the beach.

I apologize if somebody already mentioned this upthread (haven’t finished reading) but Sleuth posted this the other day—pretty sure it was with you in mind.

littlegreenfootballs.com

paralegal job in Bethesda, MD.
One of our lizards might be interested!

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prairiefire  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:24:39pm

re: #203 calochortus

Isn’t this the great dilemma of the internet?

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austin_blue  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:25:25pm

re: #218 Amory Blaine

Here is how the population of southeast Wisconsin is approached about all the tremendous lies that are being spread about PP. Like fucking children.

Used responsibly, fetal tissue has led to medical advances

“used responsibly” is a qualifier based in bullshit.

“Used irresponsibly, fetal tissue has been used to grow the muscles of Little Christian Babies (LCBs™) which has been served in the past few years in restaurants throughout the Greater Milwaukee area.”

Well, you want to be fair and balanced, don’t you?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:26:45pm

re: #220 Teukka

Heh. Random wingnut when I posted the Guardian link to the story:
“Shes funny ,she talks like hitler.”
(Capitalization and spacing fail his, not mine).
Edit:
The he said
“They still cooking up the jews in germany these days?”

Yeah Hitler was upset about bigotry against non-Germans. God wingnuts are stupid about what Hitler actually was.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:28:23pm

re: #223 BeachDem

I apologize if somebody already mentioned this upthread (haven’t finished reading) but Sleuth posted this the other day—pretty sure it was with you in mind.

littlegreenfootballs.com

paralegal job in Bethesda, MD.
One of our lizards might be interested!

Nah. Thanks. I’ll apply. Bethssda is nearby enough.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:29:05pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Yeah Hitler was upset about bigotry against non-Germans. God wingnuts are stupid about what Hitler actually was.

Indeed they are. They think that Nazism was a left-wing thing, and that only left-wing ideologies are susceptible to fascism.

Because of the mistakes during WWII by my fatherland, many of my generation got taught to see that shit comin’ a mile away, regardless of cover. Becuase it can cover itself just about as anything.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:30:08pm

re: #228 Teukka

Indeed they are. They think that Nazism was a left-wing thing, and that only left-wing ideologies are susceptible to fascism.

Because of the mistakes during WWII by my fatherland, many of my generation got taught to see that shit comin’ a mile away, regardless of cover. Becuase it can cover itself just about as anything.

They call us Nazis yet hate on us for supporting cultural diversity. SMFH.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:31:17pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

They call us Nazis yet hate on us for supporting cultural diversity. SMFH.

Indeed.
VMFH (Vibrating MFH).

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:32:13pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree. Opposition to abortion is not in and of itself a “theocratic” position. Theocracy requires far more than that, or else you’d have to call nations like Poland theocrasies.

Obviously, there are Christian extremists in America who believe, like the Islamic State extremists, that it is the government’s duty to force religious instruction on public schools, and this week, Ohio Governor John Kasich made that “religious extremist duty” mandatory in Ohio. Kasich issued a statement through a spokesman informing Ohio schools that if they fail to align with Christian organizations, they will lose funding…

A new mentoring program funded with taxpayer dollars requires ALL Ohio school districts to become partners with a faith-based organization (church) and a corporation in order to have access to the public school money. The initiative is the brain-child of religious Republican Governor John Kasich and provides funding to mentor at-risk students, but only if the schools allow a church and corporation to control the program. According to the initiative, “failure to incorporate a faith-based non-profit (Christian church) will eliminate a school district’s eligibility for the taxpayer funding.”

politicususa.com

Sounds pretty theocratic to me.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:35:42pm
Steve Ditko
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:42:35pm

re: #213 austin_blue

Okay, so this happened:

I was sitting here reading the erudite postings of fellow Lizards when suddenly there came a loud “Squeee!!” from the kitchen. I thought that it might be a rat grabbed by an owl, but then I thought, “I have neither owls nor rats in the kitchen.”

I especially love that this was your first thought!

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:47:07pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Nah. Thanks. I’ll apply. Bethssda is nearby enough.

Someone later in that thread suggested you pull some of your finer LGF comments for samples. If you’d like “fresh eyes” to help you choose, let me know!

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Nyet  Aug 9, 2015 • 1:54:14am

re: #139 Great White Snark

An easily abused excuse as well. That’s hardly violence.

It does not have to be only about open violence. It’s also about abusive behavior. In this case aggression. Seeing how they physically forced themselves on the stage and again physically prevented others from speaking by taking away the mic, it’s certainly not peaceful.

PS: and yes, I read your page, which I found misguided; the govt has a reason to monitor any movements like this regardless of the message, because even if they attract 99% of good folk, it takes only 1% to wreck havoc. And such movements do tend to attract various weird characters on the edges - radicals, revolutionaries etc., see OWS. The assumption that if a movement is based on noble principles then it should be by default exempt from any such treatment seems naive to me.

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Pip's Squeak  Aug 9, 2015 • 2:25:12am

re: #200 Teukka

Guardian arkle about the event: theguardian.com

I don’t think she ‘lost it’. She was merely decided. Anyhow, the Guardian English translation is fragmentary and badly done.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 9, 2015 • 6:38:27am

re: #231 BeachDem

No, because a school district can also not launch the program or refuse the funding.


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