Rand Paul Went After Donald Trump, and Boy Did It Backfire

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It’s too funny to see the Republican candidates tearing at each other like crazed ferrets on bath salts. If Donald Trump achieves nothing else with his gonzo campaign, he’ll have done serious, lasting damage to the image of the Republican Party.

The video above shows Rand Paul trying to get a little bit of oxygen for his campaign, attacking Trump as a fake conservative, the favorite tactic of the right for many years. But Trump’s comeback was swift and brutal. Rand Paul is just out of his league trying to do the dozens with the Donald.

Trump’s response:

Rand Paul is doing so poorly in the polls he has to revert to old footage of me discussing positions I no longer hold. As a world-class businessman, who built one of the great companies with some of the most iconic real estate assets in the world, it was my obligation to my family, my company, my employees and myself to maintain a strong relationship with all politicians whether Republican or Democrat. I did that and I did that well.

Unless you are a piece of unyielding granite, over the years positions evolve as they have in my case. Ronald Reagan, as an example, was a Democrat with a liberal bent who became a conservative Republican.

Recently, Rand Paul called me and asked me to play golf. I easily beat him on the golf course and will even more easily beat him now, in the world in the politics.

Senator Paul does not mention that after trouncing him in golf I made a significant donation to the eye center with which he is affiliated.

I feel sorry for the great people of Kentucky who are being used as a back up to Senator Paul’s hopeless attempt to become President of the United States—- weak on the military, Israel, the Vets and many other issues. Senator Paul has no chance of wining the nomination and the people of Kentucky should not allow him the privilege of remaining their Senator. Rand should save his lobbyist’s and special interest money and just go quietly home.

Rand’s campaign is a total mess, and as a matter of fact, I didn’t know he had anybody left in his campaign to make commercials who are not currently under indictment!

That, dear readers, is what is known as a sick GOP burn.

Donald Trump’s entire campaign has been carefully calculated to appeal to the totally deranged right wing base. He bailed out in the last election because he realized the base wasn’t sufficiently out of their gourds yet.

But after three more years of non-stop hate speech and incitement by the entire Republican machine, Trump has stepped in and used it to his benefit in a way that no other candidate will — because they’re all still trying to mask the craziness as reasonable political positions. Trump just threw all that pretense out the window and went for the jugular.

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255 comments
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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:27:57pm

Remember when Rand was the frontrunner hahaha. Really Rand just quit. Do yourself a favor and quit. You may still win re-election if you do that and not be an even bigger joke than your dad.

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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:34:49pm

Ouch! Ferrets on bath salts. LOL. You do have a way with words, Charles.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:35:17pm

How’s this for a dream job description?

Trumpf the Insulter, official spokesperson of the Trump campaign.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:35:37pm

i wonder what happens when a mafia don like trump with a comeback like a shiv tangles head to head with a mafia don like putin

who get buried in cement first?

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:35:58pm

Trump trumps Rand. Rand wont take the hint.

Which totally figures.

The GOP has no idea what it unleashed with Trump, and they will keep struggling all the way into primary season. You’ve got a bunch of second and third stringers who thought everyone else was a pushover, so all they’d have to do is last until the primaries and then take their chances.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:36:36pm

re: #4 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i wonder what happens when a mafia don like trump with a comeback like a shiv tangles head to head with a mafia don like putin

who get buried in cement first?

That’s one of the more plausible ways to get to World War III from here.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:36:42pm

Trump isn’t going away until all bridges are burned.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:37:35pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

Trump isn’t going away until all bridges are burned.

He’s got a lot of money to burn bridges. The GOP leadership deserves him so much.

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jhncsy  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:38:23pm

Good for Trump. He’s an asshole, but he’s the asshole they deserve.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:39:27pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

That’s one of the more plausible ways to get to World War III from here.

“Never frighten a small man. He’ll kill you” - Robert Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:39:42pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:40:01pm

re: #2 BillinGlendaleCA

Ouch! Ferrets on bath salts. LOL. You do have a way with words, Charles.

Having “Ferrets” and “Bath Salts” in the tags is truly hilarious. A literal LOL for that one.

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b.d.  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:40:06pm

Damn Donald!

A real savvy buisnessman would have bought Orville Redenbacher’s company before entering this race

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:40:48pm

The Donald actually sounds very controlled there—coherent statements rising in a nice arc to the nutslitter.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:41:08pm

re: #9 jhncsy

Good for Trump. He’s an asshole, but he’s the asshole they deserve.

Exactly. I hope he rides the GOP bus as long as he can.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:41:31pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

The Donald actually sounds very controlled there—coherent statements rising in a nice arc to the nutslitter.

Ghost Insulter.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:42:17pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

The Donald actually sounds very controlled there—coherent statements rising in a nice arc to the nutslitter.

He gasp actually comes off more like a leader than Rand does. Rand seems to be wanting to have a battle who has bigger dick (more true conservative.) Donald like a good Republican pointed out Reagan’s start as a liberal Democrat and subsequent transformation.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:42:50pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

The Donald actually sounds very controlled there—coherent statements rising in a nice arc to the nutslitter.

I think Trump knows exactly what he is doing. For example, the Mexican rapist comments that started this circus act seemed calculated to me. There was just enough ambiguity there that he could hide if it backfired on him. It didn’t, and now here we are.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:42:54pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

“Never frighten a small man. He’ll kill you” - Robert Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

It’s a bad thing when both are as small as both of these two are in the end…

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Bubblehead II  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:44:51pm
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b.d.  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:45:36pm

My only regret is that Romney isn’t running and won’t get a taste of The Donald.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:46:44pm

Donald Trump’s entire campaign has been carefully calculated to appeal to the totally deranged right wing base. He bailed out last election because he realized the base wasn’t sufficiently out of their gourds yet.

After three more years of non-stop hate speech and incitement by the entire Republican machine, Trump steps in and uses it to his benefit in a way that no other candidate will — because they’re all still trying to mask the craziness as reasonable political positions. Trump just threw all that pretense out the window and went for the jugular.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:46:52pm

This trying to run for both President and Senator is total bullshit. How can he hope to get away with that? I’ve lost track of how many Congressmen I would like to have seen run for Senator or Governor, but wouldn’t want them to give up their House seat just to try. If none of them could strike for higher office, why should this asspimple be able to?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:47:02pm

re: #21 b.d.

My only regret is that Romney isn’t running and won’t get a taste of The Donald.

Oh man that would be fun. It would be like if Neidermeier and Marmaland got in a fight.

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ObserverArt  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:48:19pm

What’s not to love about Trump’s comeback? I happen to agree with almost everything he said about Rand Paul. Especially the “go home” part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:48:53pm

I’m off to sleep to I can maybe wake up extra early for the Perseids predawn.

laterz, lizardz!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:50:03pm

re: #23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This trying to run for both President and Senator is total bullshit. How can he hope to get away with that? I’ve lost track of how many Congressmen I would like to have seen run for Senator or Governor, but wouldn’t want them to give up their House seat just to try. If none of them could strike for higher office, why should this asspimple be able to?

I actually understand why it’s done a little but then again it’s pathetic with Rand since he loves acting like he’s not a Washington guy. Uh Rand you were a pimple faced teen when your Daddy first got into office. Rand and his Dad are as much Washington as Jeb and Hillary are.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:50:15pm

Speaking of other embarrassed states:

Sen. Sanford’s “GoFundMe” stunt is despicable

An Alabama state senator has started a GoFundMe to cover the state’s $300,000,000 shortfall. In three days he raised $598.

The Governor called the lege into special session, and they promptly sent themselves home. The money runs out in 6 weeks. The most popular suggestion so far is to take it out of Medicaid.

al.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:50:21pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That really is an unfortunate pic for Rand. He looks like a kid. Sure, Trump looks like yet another fat white golfer, but Rand looks like he should be caddying.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:51:58pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

That really is an unfortunate pic for Rand. He looks like a kid. Sure, Trump looks like yet another fat white golfer, but Rand looks like he should be caddying.

Rand’s Dukakis Tank moment perhaps. But yeah he looks like a kid. Doesn’t help that he’s so much shorter than Donald. All these guys running have kissed Donald’s ass probably on one occasion and he’s going to remind the electorate of that whenever they try to attack him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:52:02pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

That really is an unfortunate pic for Rand. He looks like a kid. Sure, Trump looks like yet another fat white golfer, but Rand looks like he should be caddying.

Or jockeying. Is that a word?

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Skip Intro  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:52:42pm

re: #9 jhncsy

Good for Trump. He’s an asshole, but he’s the asshole they deserve.

In this instance, Trump is doing the job the media should be doing, but is incapable of.

Because Trump is saying it, they have to report it. They can’t even bring in their beloved magical balance fairy for “fairness”.

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ObserverArt  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:52:43pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

How’s this for a dream job description?

Trumpf the Insulter, official spokesperson of the Trump campaign.

Like Vlad the Impaler.

/

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:53:16pm

re: #4 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i wonder what happens when a mafia don like trump with a comeback like a shiv tangles head to head with a mafia don like putin

who get buried in cement first?

He’s already gotten on the bad side of El Chapo Guzmán.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:54:19pm

I have CL-itis. Posting in dead thread.

Carry on.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:54:52pm

Found myself getting attacked on Twitter today for something very similar to what Rand Paul did in that video, but from the other ideological direction. There’s a contingent of angry left wingers who really hate me and refuse to believe my ideological shift is genuine.

So I’ve got obsessive haters after me from both the right and the left these days. Wheee!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:54:54pm

re: #34 Eventual Carrion

He’s already gotten on the bad side of El Chapo Guzmán.

El Chapo could whack him and leave a half-eaten piroshki next to the body….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:55:02pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Like Vlad the Impaler.

/

There was a Russian guy named Vladimir where I used to work. Smoker, but never bought the things himself. The other smokers called him ‘Vlad The Inhaler’.

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BillinGlendaleCA  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:56:02pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

When I first saw that pic, I thought, ah a pic of Trump and his caddy.

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b.d.  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:56:28pm

I want Trump to be President just so I can watch the interpreters when he is talking to foreign leaders.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:56:58pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Found myself getting attacked on Twitter today for something very similar to what Rand Paul did in that video, but from the other ideological direction. There’s a contingent of angry left wingers who really hate me and refuse to believe my ideological shift is genuine.

So I’ve got obsessive haters after me from both the right and the left these days. Wheee!

You’re playing the long con. 6 years and counting!
//

Despite being a lifelong Liberal, I often find myself more at home with Ex-Righties who woke up one day, looked around and said, “What the fuck? Have I been on drugs?” than with a lot of other Liberals.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:58:38pm

Sorry for OT, but CNN has a Melania Trump segment.

I just can’t imagine the teabaggers going for a very heavily accented first lady.

Also, mystery child.

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Doofus  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:59:26pm

There aren’t enough updings for sayings like

crazed ferrets on bath salts

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Jenner7  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:59:26pm

I miss these girls….except Betty, she’s still here, yay!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:59:42pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Found myself getting attacked on Twitter today for something very similar to what Rand Paul did in that video, but from the other ideological direction. There’s a contingent of angry left wingers who really hate me and refuse to believe my ideological shift is genuine.

So I’ve got obsessive haters after me from both the right and the left these days. Wheee!

That’s frankly a load of shit. I’ve always been a fairly left of center guy but you’ve come around on your views and I think the past six+ years have been one of the best voices against the right going nuts and also in favor of liberal values. It’s such a stupid game really that ultra partisans play. I saw a Sanders supporter I know attack Hillary since she was a Goldwater girl in high school.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 5:59:48pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

Sorry for OT, but CNN has a Melania Trump segment.

I just can’t imagine the teabaggers going for a very heavily accented first lady.

Also, mystery child.

No probs. He’ll hire a Stunt First Lady.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:00:11pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

Sorry for OT, but CNN has a Melania Trump segment.

I just can’t imagine the teabaggers going for a very heavily accented first lady.

Also, mystery child.

She’s from the same country as my great grandparents. Russ- no Slovenia but it’s all the same to them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:01:41pm

re: #44 Jenner7

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I miss these girls….

Sad how Betty is the only one still with us. I used to watch the show with my grandmother when I was a little kid. Betty White is just the coolest old lady out there. The only cooler old lady was my Nana who still loved her vodka and got a kick out of my brother’s Cartman talking doll in to her early 90’s.

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b_sharp  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:02:18pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m off to sleep to I can maybe wake up extra early for the Perseids predawn.

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laterz, lizardz!

The joke there is just too obvious.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:02:32pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

Melania Trump

i wonder what they find to talk about

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Jenner7  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:03:17pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

“Thank you for being a friend….”

One of my favorite shows. Dorothy is my favorite, I love her wit.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:03:28pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

Sorry for OT, but CNN has a Melania Trump segment.

I just can’t imagine the teabaggers going for a very heavily accented first lady.

Also, mystery child.

Oh, shit! Does the firstborn of a President now directly inherit the presidency?

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:03:44pm

re: #13 b.d.

Damn Donald!

A real savvy buisnessman would have bought Orville Redenbacher’s company before entering this race

And Act III…and Pop Secret…and Cousin Willie’s…and Popcorn, Indiana…and…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:04:29pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i wonder what they find to talk about

Meticulous pourings-over of the prenuptial agreement’s clauses about conjugal duties.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:04:30pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

You’re playing the long con. 6 years and counting!
//

Despite being a lifelong Liberal, I often find myself more at home with Ex-Righties who woke up one day, looked around and said, “What the fuck? Have I been on drugs?” than with a lot of other Liberals.

I actually really appreciate former righties like Charles and the others. Like you, I am a lifelong liberal- it’s in my blood but I have nothing against Charles or anyone else here who used to be right wing. I actually have more respect for people like that since they were willing to re-evaluate their worldview. That’s the mark of a true liberal IMO. I myself try to do evaluate my worldview to keep myself honest and informed.

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:05pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Oh man that would be fun. It would be like if Neidermeier and Marmaland Marmalard got in a fight.

FTFY…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:11pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

You’re playing the long con. 6 years and counting!
//

Despite being a lifelong Liberal, I often find myself more at home with Ex-Righties who woke up one day, looked around and said, “What the fuck? Have I been on drugs?” than with a lot of other Liberals.

Heh. Oliver Willis once said I’d switch around again as soon as Republican was president, but I think he’s starting to realize this isn’t an act.

There is absolutely no way I will ever vote for a Republican again. The GOP represents the worst aspects of America, the reactionary, religious fanatic, racist Dark Ages part of the country that unfortunately still exists in many areas.

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Great White Snark  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:14pm

Whoa just saw video of the China blast. yes, looks big enough to be a nuke, but reminds me more of images from Texas city.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:22pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

Sorry for OT, but CNN has a Melania Trump segment.

I just can’t imagine the teabaggers going for a very heavily accented first lady.

Also, mystery child.

Doesn’t matter, he’ll have a new wife before long.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:30pm

re: #51 Jenner7

“Thank you for being a friend….”

One of my favorite shows. Dorothy is my favorite, I love her wit.

Yeah great opening song. I used to spend a lot of time over there as a kid. One of my earliest memories on TV is watching the Yugoslavian Civil War and parts of the Gulf War. I’ll get off the lawn, I promise.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:48pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

No probs. He’ll hire a Stunt First Lady.

Seriously, he’ll name his daughter first hostess & send Melania to the curb.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:05:49pm

re: #56 TedStriker

FTFY…

Thanks. I was too tired/lazy to look it up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:08:06pm

Can’t stand Donald but I do think as a small matter of Slovene-American pride do think it’s neat she’s from there. Now that said, her husband is a pathetic douchecanoe.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:08:36pm

Just to be really clear about this - people should realize that I was absolutely not a right winger before the 9/11 terror attacks. I was a true-blue Democrat and social liberal in every way before then. The attacks were a huge shock to me, and I was angry. That anger drew a lot of right wingers to the site — because that’s what the right wing is all about. Anger.

It took some years for me to realize these things, but I’m never going back to that angry place.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:09:12pm

On another spousal note, I was surprised to see how big the difference between Scott Walker and Mrs. Walker’s age is. She’s over a decade older than him. Not a knock or really anything but just thought that was interesting. My own folks are eight years apart.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:10:39pm

cheeto bake

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:11:06pm

re: #58 Great White Snark

Whoa just saw video of the China blast. yes, looks big enough to be a nuke, but reminds me more of images from Texas city.

Have to disagree here - definitely not big enough to be a nuke. We’re talking several orders of magnitude. A nuke would have completely leveled a large area (depending on how many megatons it was) and there would have been many more people dead.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:11:31pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Just to be really clear about this - people should realize that I was absolutely not a right winger before the 9/11 terror attacks. I was a true-blue Democrat and social liberal in every way before then. The attacks were a huge shock to me, and I was angry. That anger drew a lot of right wingers to the site — because that’s what the right wing is all about. Anger.

It took some years for me to realize these things, but I’m never going back to that angry place.

I remember reading that about you Charles. I think a lot of people had that response. It made a lot of people hawkish. The attacks hit close to home for me although I did have a different response than you did but as I said, I won’t begrudge you at all. You’re a good guy and I think have provided a bastion of sanity for so many of us these past years and I think I speak for all the Lizards in saying thank you for that. This is the best political blog on the internet. I’d rather be here than at Kos or Huffpost. Great people, great discussion and that discussion isn’t just limited to politics but you post some great music and provoking videos. I really liked the one you had about the Loony Toons animator not that long ago.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:11:48pm

re: #66 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cheeto bake

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Ooompa Loompa Doopity dee.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:12:48pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Ooompa Loompa Doopity dee.

Don’t disrespect a proud, chocolate-loving people.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:13:42pm

CNN…I know he’s pretty much a GOP pundit, but David Gergen has the most soothing voice of a pundit. I remember him on election eve 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:14:29pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

Don’t disrespect a proud, chocolate-loving people.

Yeah sorry but man be put even Boehner to shame there. Note to my fellow krauts, Boehner and Trump stay the hell out of the tanning salons, if you want to get tan great, but earn it by actually going out in the sun rather than Snooking yourself.

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b_sharp  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:15:14pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Just to be really clear about this - people should realize that I was absolutely not a right winger before the 9/11 terror attacks. I was a true-blue Democrat and social liberal in every way before then. The attacks were a huge shock to me, and I was angry. That anger drew a lot of right wingers to the site — because that’s what the right wing is all about. Anger.

It took some years for me to realize these things, but I’m never going back to that angry place.

There have been several studies that show an introduction of fear will push liberals to the right. 9/11 was a huge push.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:15:47pm

re: #71 #FergusonFireside

CNN…I know he’s pretty much a GOP pundit, but David Gergen has the most soothing voice of a pundit. I remember him on election eve 2008.

Is he really a GOP pundit. I thought he was someone who worked for presidents from both parties. He always did come off more professional than most of the pundits I’ve heard though. I haven’t seen him interviewed much but when I read the WaPo’s editorials regularly, I liked E.J Dionne.

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ObserverArt  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:16:00pm

Later all.

CAUTION
More GOP
self-destruction
ahead.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:16:19pm

re: #58 Great White Snark

Whoa just saw video of the China blast. yes, looks big enough to be a nuke, but reminds me more of images from Texas city.

Yeah, I lived in Houston for 12 years. Worked downtown for 8 of those. Had a few blasts at holding tanks or chemical manufacturing around Channelview and Baytown. Could feel the blast in town. Then of course you have to close all windows and shut off the air conditioner because of a cloud of chemicals coming your way.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:16:48pm

By the way.. “The Mulai” tried to register another sock puppet account, over here: littlegreenfootballs.com

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:16:54pm

re: #66 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cheeto bake

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Baked? He looks BBQ’ed…just look at the pretty pink smoke rings around his eyes and lips!

///

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:17:03pm

re: #73 b_sharp

There have been several studies that show an introduction of fear will push liberals to the right. 9/11 was a huge push.

I think that was what happened with Dennis Miller and a couple other liberal celebs. Not sure but maybe James Woods was one of those too. Not sure but I know Woods hasn’t always been right wing. I still do like and appreciate his movies even if he’s a bit of a dick especially politically but he can laugh at himself. That’s always a virtue for me.

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:18:06pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Ooompa Loompa Doopity dee.

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

Don’t disrespect a proud, chocolate-loving people.

Don’t make them sic a Vermicious K’nid on you…

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:19:05pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Just to be really clear about this - people should realize that I was absolutely not a right winger before the 9/11 terror attacks. I was a true-blue Democrat and social liberal in every way before then. The attacks were a huge shock to me, and I was angry. That anger drew a lot of right wingers to the site — because that’s what the right wing is all about. Anger.

It took some years for me to realize these things, but I’m never going back to that angry place.

Anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering….

Yoda

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:19:55pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Just to be really clear about this - people should realize that I was absolutely not a right winger before the 9/11 terror attacks. I was a true-blue Democrat and social liberal in every way before then. The attacks were a huge shock to me, and I was angry. That anger drew a lot of right wingers to the site — because that’s what the right wing is all about. Anger.

It took some years for me to realize these things, but I’m never going back to that angry place.

I didn’t really know the history, and was afraid to ask around here in case it was a sore subject, but I just couldn’t imagine how a real true-blue (true-red?) right-winger could have changed so completely. 9/11 drove a lot of people a little nuts. I wish more of them would get over it.

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:20:33pm

Given the rising outrage in the right-wing and anti-Islamic blogospheres about the IKEA stabbing, I shamelessly plug my latest creation:
IKEA Stabbings: What we know so far
I will monitor the thread for questions and if need be post updates.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:20:54pm

I had a far left stretch 2002-summer 2004 and also a centrist stretch 2006-early 2008. Right now I am probably to the center of what I was in the first phase but to the left of the second.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:21:52pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Have to disagree here - definitely not big enough to be a nuke. We’re talking several orders of magnitude. A nuke would have completely leveled a large area (depending on how many megatons it was) and there would have been many more people dead.

I linked to a BBC report downstairs that the seismic guys said the second blast was 21 tons—that’s 1/1000 of the Nagasaki bomb’s yield.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:23:02pm

I know Charles has pointed it out before but I had my hopes from afar before I joined here knowing that our host had been one of the few right wingers to condemn the Eurofacist groups that so many righties flirt with these days.People live. They learn. I myself would probably be amazed with how idealistic I was in 2005 and I am about to find out in a way since a letter i wrote myself ten years ago as a graduating high school senior is going to arrive soon.

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:23:10pm

re: #73 b_sharp

There have been several studies that show an introduction of fear will push liberals to the right. 9/11 was a huge push.

The thing that stands out to me about 9/11 is what I ended up doing on the day after it, because I was luck enough not to have lost anyone. I stayed at home with my brother and we listened to a book on my boombox that we had checked out of the library.

Frank Herbert’s Dune, a novel about how impossible it is to control a desert area even with superior numbers or technology if the local population does not fully support you….

///Nothing at all prophetic about that…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:23:13pm

re: #83 Teukka

Given the rising outrage in the right-wing and anti-Islamic blogospheres about the IKEA stabbing, I shamelessly plug my latest creation:
IKEA Stabbings: What we know so far
I will monitor the thread for questions and if need be post updates.

Great post. I already tweeted about it twice.

(Suggestion: it would really help increase the impact if you added an image at the top.)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:24:01pm

re: #85 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I linked to a BBC report downstairs that the seismic guys said the second blast was 21 tons—that’s 1/1000 of the Nagasaki bomb’s yield.

And the Nagasaki bomb was pretty small compared to modern nuclear weapons.

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:24:30pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Great post. I already tweeted about it twice.

(Suggestion: it would really help increase the impact if you added an image at the top.)

Problem is that I don’t know any public domains on it, and that victim pic is too gory :/

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:25:45pm

re: #59 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Doesn’t matter, he’ll have a new wife before long.

Isn’t The Donald overdue to trade out his current Eastern European wife for a fresh, new model?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:26:26pm

2001 was a crazy year for me. My kid brother was born that April but my godmother/great aunt, one of the nicest and sweetest ladies you’ll ever know died that June. That was the first funeral I had ever been to. Started high school that year too and of course 9/11. I also found out about my heart condition. It’s a good thing murmurs run in my family or else I would have never been checked. I thought I was high school football material but my grandfather having a murmur made my folks want to get me checked out.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:26:36pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Have to disagree here - definitely not big enough to be a nuke. We’re talking several orders of magnitude. A nuke would have completely leveled a large area (depending on how many megatons it was) and there would have been many more people dead.

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:27:03pm

re: #91 TedStriker

Isn’t The Donald overdue to trade out his current Eastern European wife for a fresh, new model?

Probably. Wonder where the next one will be from.

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:27:43pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly equal in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

Nuclear grenade, throw really hard.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:28:56pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly equal in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

Indeed. Especially since front line weapons like that may need to be used in unexpected ways (worst case randomly in the direction of perceived enemy forces) if a position is in danger of being overrun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:29:02pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Probably. Wonder where the next one will be from.

Mexico!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:29:18pm

Davy Crockett eh. Now I am thinking about this guy.
Image: Introducci%C3%B3n_-_MGS3_-_Volgin.png

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:30:25pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Mexico!

Hahaha wouldn’t that be something but he likes them from Eastern Europe. Ivana was Czech and Melania is Slovene. So magic 8 ball says Albania*
* Just because I did a group report on Albania in Eastern European Nationalism class.

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:30:35pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Davy Crockett eh. Now I am thinking about this guy.
Image: Introducci%C3%B3n_-_MGS3_-_Volgin.png

Yes few accounts of the cold war mention the danger posed by lightning shooting communists, much less those who were COVERED IN BEES!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:30:37pm

re: #95 jamesfirecat

Nuclear grenade, throw really hard.

Backpack nuke. Punch the button and run like hell.

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piratedan  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:30:40pm

I hope that they all stay in and spend all of their money eviscerating each other to the point where there’s little cash left to attack whoever gets the Dem nom…. I know, it’s a pipe dream, but each dollar they spend stabbing each other, is one less in the general.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:30:49pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly equal in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

I always used to see the W-54 warhead quoted at 72 tonnes—for 13 kg of plutonium. That’s more than enough for two Fat Man-type cores! It was the incredible wastefulness of it that shocked me more than anything else, I don’t know why.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:31:16pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

Right, but that’s a special case and not the type of nuke China has, at least not as far as we know.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:31:25pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:31:57pm

re: #100 jamesfirecat

Yes few accounts of the cold war mention the danger posed by lightning shooting communists, much less those who were COVERED IN BEES!

or ancient snipers that replinish their health using the forest and don’t forget about angry cosmonauts. Man makes me feel old knowing that game is over a decade old. It’s still awesome though.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:33:31pm

re: #95 jamesfirecat

One of the weirder weapons in New Vegas.

Have an offer for a temporary position. Right now relaxing Classic on Netflix.

I definitely like the 2nd and 3rd over the 1st.

Among the companions that I have seen, Jamie is my favorite, Barbara is a close second, followed by Ian & the Brigadier. Then it would be Zoe, Jo Grant, Victoria, and LIz Shaw was my least favorite. I saw that they were trying to go for smart, but Liz is the most abrasive companion I have seen in Doctor Who.

Right now at Carnival of Monsters. It is not impressing me. :/

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:33:43pm

re: #102 piratedan

I hope that they all stay in and spend all of their money eviscerating each other to the point where there’s little cash left to attack whoever gets the Dem nom…. I know, it’s a pipe dream, but each dollar they spend stabbing each other, is one less in the general.

The money for this is truly endless. My hope is that this GOP primary season ends up being so abominable that the main stream media can no longer pretend that the GOP is anything other than a Dark Carbuncle of Doom, ready for its loathsome squeeze play.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:34:09pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Hahaha wouldn’t that be something but he likes them from Eastern Europe. Ivana was Czech and Melania is Slovene. So magic 8 ball says Albania*
* Just because I did a group report on Albania in Eastern European Nationalism class.

When I saw her in something as a blonde, I was finally motivated to look up Masiela Lusha from the The George Lopez Show. I knew her name wasn’t Spanish, of course, but it turns out she’s Albanian—not Albanian-American like the Belushi brothers, but born in Tiranë.

Maybe she’s too old for The Donald by now, but….

Just kidding—she’d spit i his eye!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:34:30pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Right, but that’s a special case and not the type of nuke China has, at least not as far as we know.

Also, China’s military would be going absolutely apeshit right now if there was any appreciable radiation release in Tianjin. But that’s not happening, and everything about the explosion coincides with similar industrial fire detonations like the fertilizer plant explosion in Texas City.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:36:27pm

re: #107 The War TARDIS

Actually, Carnival of Monsters is beginning to look quite terrible. :/

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:37:24pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

or ancient snipers that replinish their health using the forest and don’t forget about angry cosmonauts. Man makes me feel old knowing that game is over a decade old. It’s still awesome though.

He recovered his health because he’d somehow become photosynthetic which is no stupider an explanation for superpowers than how being buried in a church and forced to drink blood turns you into a modern day vampire.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:37:49pm

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When I saw here in something as a blonde, I was finally motivated to look up Masiela Lusha from the The George Lopez Show. I knew her name wasn’t Spanish, of course, but it turns out she’s Albanian—not Albanian-American like the Belushi brothers, but born in Tiranë.

Maybe she’s too old for The Donald by now, but….

Just kidding—she’d spit i his eye!

I remember being shocked when I found out Catherine Zeta-Jones was Welsh after watching Zorro as a kid. Mila Kunis being Ukrainian Jewish and not Latina surprised me too. My SiL, Peruvian has all sorts of guesses about what she is. Can’t wait for my niece go grow older so people can play the guessing game with her. She’s more fair than her mom obviously but she’s got darker hair but also greenish blue eyes.

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Varek Raith  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:38:48pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

Trump isn’t going away until all bridges are burned.

and the ashes are napalmed then nuked for good measure.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:39:17pm

re: #112 jamesfirecat

He recovered his health because he’d somehow become photosynthetic which is no stupider an explanation for superpowers than how being buried in a church and forced to drink blood turns you into a modern day vampire.

I think that heh is part of why the first game is still alot of people’s favorites. Raven, Wolf, Ocelot, and those bosses really weren’t supernatural. The Ninja I grant you though in advance. Still my favorite series of all time though.

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Great White Snark  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:39:44pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Right, expressing a first instant impression, but was thinking a small one like an artillery shell or tactical type, but in just a few seconds started thinking Texas City or the big explosion in Donetsk earlier this year. Munitions depot perhaps. That one looks even more like an atom bomb test film what with the glow in the clouds.

Video

Anyway I suspect early reports of 17 or so dead are sadly low balling it. That was industrial area not remote like Texas farmland from that explosion of fertilizer iirc.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:40:43pm

Hopefully China’s government takes today’s highly public tragedy as an impetus to finally get real about industrial, mine, zoning, fire, construction code and workplace safety regulations. Explosions like this happen at the long end of a egregious failure train.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:43:00pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Hopefully China’s government takes todays highly public tragedy as an impetus to finally get real about industrial, mine, zoning, fire, construction code and workplace safety regulations. Explosions like this happen at the long end of a egregious failure train.

Why should they respond better than Texas?

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:43:14pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I think that heh is part of why the first game is still alot of people’s favorites. Raven, Wolf, Ocelot, and those bosses really weren’t supernatural. The Ninja I grant you though in advance. Still my favorite series of all time though.

Wasn’t Raven supposed to have mystial Eskimo spirit shaman powers of some kind or another? I mean he doesn’t use them to fight, but how else do you explain getting completely stripped to the bone by birds?

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:44:14pm

re: #91 TedStriker

Isn’t The Donald overdue to trade out his current Eastern European wife for a fresh, new model?

Usually once guys hit #3 or #4, they are old and unable to snare a newer model. The last marriages usually last the longest.

See Johnny Carson & Frank Sinatra.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:45:42pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Hopefully China’s government takes todays highly public tragedy as an impetus to finally get real about industrial, mine, zoning, fire, construction code and workplace safety regulations. Explosions like this happen at the long end of a egregious failure train.

Sooner or later this will have to happen, but the present level of corruption in China will make this a very slow process. The party boss at the top can change views quickly, but that’s not enough to ensure progress.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:46:10pm

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:46:37pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:47:33pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Why should they respond better than Texas?

On the whole, the Chinese regime is probably more corrupt than the state of Texas, but also less committed to denying reality. It could end up going either way.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:47:41pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

August 12th, brought to you by Michael Bay?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:49:00pm

re: #121 EPR-radar

Sooner or later this will have to happen, but the present level of corruption in China will make this a very slow process. The party boss at the top can change views quickly, but that’s not enough to ensure progress.

They had to respond to the melamine baby/pet food fiasco because it caused an international outcry, but all they did was give their equivalent of FDA Chairman 9 grams in the back of the head. Bullets are cheap. Cheaper than fixing problems anyway.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:49:52pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

Jeb has been awful so far though. I’d go with Rubio as more likely, younger and not quite as awkward.

Also, what happened to Paul Ryan?

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Great White Snark  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:51:53pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Right, but that’s a special case and not the type of nuke China has, at least not as far as we know.

Clearly not a nuke, even a tiny surface burst would set off all kinds of alarms very quickly. We would know already. The utility of small warheads is compelling to a nuclear power long on land and troops and short on technology. If anyone has neutron warheads for example, I’d bet the Chinese have them. I think they are at most 20 years behind us in atomic warhead design, likely a lot less. Our designs are all old.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:51:56pm

re: #120 #FergusonFireside

Usually once guys hit #3 or #4, they are old and unable to snare a newer model. The last marriages usually last the longest.

See Johnny Carson & Frank Sinatra.

not to mention henry VIII

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:52:32pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

Jeb has been awful so far though. I’d go with Rubio as more likely, younger and not quite as awkward.

Also, what happened to Paul Ryan?

was caught lyin’

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kirkspencer  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:52:35pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

It’s possible.

A major factor in the end is the structure of how the nominee is chosen. Both the Democrats and the Republicans modified their structures so the establishment/party apparatchiks/whatever you want to call them had a /major/ voice in the final decision. If I recall the math, Trump has to come in first in over 2/3 of the primaries to have enough points that what the establishment doesn’t matter - more if the remaining third of the delegates stay in and vote for the establishment candidate. I could be wrong on the detail, but the principle stands.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:52:52pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

I think an establishment-forced Jeb nomination would break the GOP in two. The base is still upset about McCain and Romney. Anyway, the #2 from 2012 was Santorum, not Jeb.

If the wingnuts can manage to coalesce around someone acceptable to the GOP establishment (e.g., Walker, Rubio, Cruz?) then I would expect the establishment to join in to preserve party unity for a little while longer.

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jamesfirecat  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:53:24pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I think that heh is part of why the first game is still alot of people’s favorites. Raven, Wolf, Ocelot, and those bosses really weren’t supernatural. The Ninja I grant you though in advance. Still my favorite series of all time though.

By the way if you like the first game/the series in general, think about reading Last Days of Foxhounds, it is very amusing webcomic.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:53:53pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

Jeb has been awful so far though. I’d go with Rubio as more likely, younger and not quite as awkward.

Also, what happened to Paul Ryan?

He’s working on his abs.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:54:13pm

Drive-by memeing…

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:54:21pm

re: #125 The War TARDIS

August 12th, brought to you by Michael Bay?

hahaha!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:54:32pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

And Donald will run as a 3rd party and be the Perot in the Bush/Clinton sandwich.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:54:42pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

He’s working on his abs.

And running sub-hour marathons.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:55:04pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

I think an establishment-forced Jeb nomination would break the GOP in two. The base is still upset about McCain and Romney. Anyway, the #2 from 2012 was Santorum, not Jeb.

If the wingnuts can manage to coalesce around someone acceptable to the GOP establishment (e.g., Walker, Rubio, Cruz?) then I would expect the establishment to join in to preserve party unity for a little while longer.

If they nominate a “not conservative enough” candidate and lose again—Man, the 2020 campaign is going to be Ka-RAY-zee!

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:55:38pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

Jeb has been awful so far though. I’d go with Rubio as more likely, younger and not quite as awkward.

Also, what happened to Paul Ryan?

Totally remembered him today & thought the same. Shouldn’t he have been at least considered?

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Nyet  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:56:42pm

The Rotor script looks quite Lovecraftian:

omniglot.com

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:57:06pm

re: #140 #FergusonFireside

Totally remembered him today & thought the same. Shouldn’t he have been at least considered?

Actually, who is the GOP candidate spouting the ending of SS/Medicare? Anyone yet?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:57:15pm

Remember, after Jeb, comes Marvin Bush.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:57:47pm

re: #142 #FergusonFireside

Actually, who is the GOP candidate spouting the ending of SS/Medicare? Anyone yet?

Jeb has gone there and so has Scott Walker.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:58:31pm

re: #119 jamesfirecat

Wasn’t Raven supposed to have mystial Eskimo spirit shaman powers of some kind or another? I mean he doesn’t use them to fight, but how else do you explain getting completely stripped to the bone by birds?

Oh shit, yeah I forgot about that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:58:46pm

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb has gone there and so has Scott Walker.

The Dem attack ads are going to win Oscars.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:58:53pm

Everything out of Jeb’s mouth is a turd.

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Great White Snark  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:59:02pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Yes and no. Technically the 21 ton TNT equivalent yield reported for the Tianjin blast is exactly in line with the blast effect of the Davy Crocket nuclear device. Of course most of the lethality of the Davy Crocket’s W54 warhead came from prompt release of radiation, and not the blast yield.

Battlefield nuclear rockets and artillery, by the by, have to be the craziest damned things we ever invented.

That blast damage looks to wide for 21 tons of explosives. Broke windows (if correct) as far as 6 km away. Early info of course could be off.

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bratwurst  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:59:10pm

Anyone else see their local gas price rise 25% overnight…or was it just us lucky Chicagoland motorists?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:59:25pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

By the way if you like the first game/the series in general, think about reading Last Days of Foxhounds, it is very amusing webcomic.

Thanks man. Will do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:59:40pm

re: #149 bratwurst

Anyone else see their local gas price rise 25% overnight…or was it just us lucky Chicagoland motorists?

Went up $0.40 in the Motor City

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CleverToad  Aug 12, 2015 • 6:59:57pm

re: #111 The War TARDIS

I like The Carnival of Monsters, being a fan of the Third Doctor and Jo Grant, and a major fan of Ian Marter. Ian actually got to watch the whole episode at a con in Buffalo 1985 — said he’d never had the chance to see it before, due to scheduling. He rather liked it! The special effects are dreadful, of course, but one always watched for the characters and the story.

Says the cranky OLD Doctor Who fan, not that I don’t like a lot of New Who.

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Great White Snark  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:00:14pm

re: #149 bratwurst

Anyone else see their local gas price rise 25% overnight…or was it just us lucky Chicagoland motorists?

Welcome to up like a rocket down like a feather energy pricing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:00:24pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Remember, after Jeb, comes Marvin Bush.

Neil in 2032!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:00:58pm

re: #149 bratwurst

Anyone else see their local gas price rise 25% overnight…or was it just us lucky Chicagoland motorists?

Ours went down .03 in the last couple days, to $2.14.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:01:06pm

Man feeling awfully fatigued. I don’t get it. Usually a day at the gym and laps doesn’t tire me out this early.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:01:50pm

Jeb likes slamming single mothers. That makes me wish Obama or Bill Clinton was running for president.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:01:51pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

if they do i think it would be the stupidest thing the gop establishment ever did

if he wasnt already flat beer with the base, trump softening him up like a punching bag has finished him

nominate jeb and watch the base refuse to vote

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:02:29pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Why should they respond better than Texas?

China doesn’t pretend to be an objectivist paradise, the governing ideology is more fluid, top down and pragmatic. The lack of regulations was ignored while growth at all cost was pursued, but unlike Texas there hasn’t been any drive to undo such regulation once implemented.

They devalued their currency again today, and it looks like they’re trying to boost their economy. Here’s hoping they do it by investing in smart infrastructure instead of just building more ghost cities and random bullshit.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:03:01pm

Totally OT, but I need to ask: Is there a Steam Group for LGF?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:03:07pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Neil in 2032!

how soon to a jenna/not-jenna ticket?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:03:18pm

re: #158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

if they do i think it would be the stupidest thing the gop establishment ever did

if he wasnt already flat beer with the base, trump softening him up like a punching bag has finished him

nominate jeb and watch the base refuse to vote

That’d be nice.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:04:06pm

re: #148 Great White Snark

I had heard that too. 21 tons of TNT seems a mite bit small for this sort of damage.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:04:53pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

I explained that tweet to my middle son, and said that Bush “fubarred badly. And yeah, he messed up so bad that fubar needed an extra qualifier.”

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:05:08pm

re: #139 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If they nominate a “not conservative enough” candidate and lose again—Man, the 2020 campaign is going to be Ka-RAY-zee!

According to wingnut history (no relation to real history, of course), the GOP candidate has been a RINO since 1988.

1988 GHWB RINO
1992 GHWB RINO
1996 Bob Dole RINO
2000 GWB (conservative, but retconned into a RINO)
2004 GWB (conservative, but retconned into a RINO)
2008 McCain RINO
2012 Romney RINO

So the GOP candidate has been “not conservative enough” for over 25 years at this point. Could another 4 years really make a difference?

Putting the point another way, if a grifter and demagogue like Trump can get serious support from the GOP base merely by aggressive pandering, the degeneration of the GOP into a proto-fascist cesspit is complete.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:05:08pm

I am honestly genuinely curious who Jeb would consider for a running mate. I bet he’d go the same route Romney and McCain went and go with some up and comer who the lunatic base loves and the media will try to present as “young and hip” even though they’re more reactionary than Jebby himself.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:05:58pm

re: #161 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how soon to a jenna/not-jenna ticket?

Would Chelsea Clinton be old enough to run in 2024?

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bratwurst  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:06:18pm

re: #160 Chan Kobun

Totally OT, but I need to ask: Is there a Steam Group for LGF?

No, but if you ever make it to the north bubrs of Chicago I’ll take you for a schvitz!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:06:43pm

re: #165 EPR-radar

According to wingnut history (no relation to real history, of course), the GOP candidate has been a RINO since 1988.

1988 GHWB RINO
1992 GHWB RINO
1996 Bob Dole RINO
2000 GWB (conservative, but retconned into a RINO)
2004 GWB (conservative, but retconned into a RINO)
2008 McCain RINO
2012 Romney RINO

So the GOP candidate has been “not conservative enough” for over 25 years at this point. Could another 4 years really make a difference?

Putting the point another way, if a grifter and demagogue like Trump can get serious support from the GOP base merely by aggressive pandering, the degeneration of the GOP into a proto-fascist cesspit is complete.

The only true conservative is Reagan and only Reagan because they worship Reagan. But yes everyone is a RINO. I expect no matter who the nominee is, he will be made out to be a RINO. Hell saw it here after Cuccinnelli lost. Yep, there were VA wingnuts saying Ken Cuccinneli was insufficiently conservative.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:06:55pm

Somehow I don’t think this meme of Bernie’s hair on fire is something that Bernie supporters should be using

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:07:58pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Would Chelsea Clinton be old enough to run in 2024?

She’s technically old enough to run this election. Just barely since her birthday is in late February but she’d be eligible. I am old enough to run in 2024 but I am also young enough to issue a Sherman statement.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:08:05pm

re: #152 CleverToad

I really am trying to like it, I am.

The costumes for the non-Human Characters are distracting though.

This is still nowhere near a cringe-worthy as Love and Monsters, the Runaway Bride, The Voyage of the Damned, or The Next Doctor, among other episodes from the Davies era.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:08:49pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Somehow I don’t think this meme of Bernie’s hair on fire is something that Bernie supporters should be using

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Yeah I didn’t know Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal was running for office. I agree, not really a flat erring image heh.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:08:49pm

re: #163 The War TARDIS

I had heard that too. 21 tons of TNT seems a mite bit small for this sort of damage.

Not really. That explosion followed a smaller one that pre weakened nearby structures. Also the fireball was enormous, and it poured radiant heat over a long radius into the interiors of structures that just had their windows blown out, igniting easily combustable rugs and furniture. I’m betting a lot of the destruction comes from these kinds of secondary fires.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:09:43pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

The only true conservative is Reagan and only Reagan because they worship Reagan. But yes everyone is a RINO. I expect no matter who the nominee is, he will be made out to be a RINO. Hell saw it here after Cuccinnelli lost. Yep, there were VA wingnuts saying Ken Cuccinneli was insufficiently conservative.

the book of Biographies Of Famous True Conservatives must be very short

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:10:13pm

What could possibly go wrong?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:10:29pm

other true conservative republican presidents:

coolidge

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:10:48pm

re: #175 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the book of Biographies Of Famous True Conservatives must be very short

Only shorter book is “Accomplishments of True Conservatives.”

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Nyet  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:12:01pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like a clown (no offense to Bernie).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:12:07pm

re: #177 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

other true conservative republican presidents:

coolidge

The more honest ones love him and not Reagan. Democrat but Cleveland is popular too. Coolidge was awful though. The worst president of a decade filled with bad presidents. For all the blame he gets for the depression, Herbie may have been the ebst of the bunch.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:12:26pm

#FeelTheBern seems more appropriate as a public health STD education campaign.

Just saying.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:12:53pm

re: #179 Nyet

Looks like a clown (no offense to Bernie).

Heh I was thinking about Sweet Tooth from the Twisted Metal series, don’t know if you know it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:02pm

re: #179 Nyet

Looks like a clown (no offense to Bernie).

That meme with Trump’s hair on fire would kick ass!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:16pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

#FeelTheBern seems more appropriate as a public health STD education campaign.

Just saying.

That too.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:17pm

re: #176 The Vicious Babushka

What could possibly go wrong?

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Wait… aren’t the Devils dying off from the weird viral caused cancer tumors on their faces? And if that spread to other marsupials in Australia?

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:31pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Only shorter book is “Accomplishments of True Conservatives.”

There would be zero positive accomplishments.

However, the list of negative accomplishments could be made very long:

Successfully opposed federal civil rights legislation for decades.

Successfully opposed regulation of monopolies and big corporations for decades.

Etc., etc., ……

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:41pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Somehow I don’t think this meme of Bernie’s hair on fire is something that Bernie supporters should be using

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I get what they’re going for, but they’re trying too hard. He doesn’t need flaming hair.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:13:57pm

re: #186 EPR-radar

There would be zero positive accomplishments.

However, the list of negative accomplishments could be made very long:

Successfully opposed federal civil rights legislation for decades.

Successfully opposed regulation of monopolies and big corporations for decades.

Etc., etc., ……

Yeah touche.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:14:03pm

re: #168 bratwurst

No, but if you ever make it to the north bubrs of Chicago I’ll take you for a schvitz!

Oy, you chochem! I mean a Steam Group, wiseass!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:14:55pm

Hmmm I feel like playing Silent Hill but I am so frigging tired. Perfect time of night to play too.

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EPR-radar  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:14:57pm

re: #187 Belafon

I get what they’re going for, but they’re trying too hard. He doesn’t need flaming hair.

I think the image is idiotic. Not a way to convince fence sitters and skeptics that you are not a flake.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:15:13pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

The more honest ones love him and not Reagan. Democrat but Cleveland is popular too. Coolidge was awful though. The worst president of a decade filled with bad presidents. For all the blame he gets for the depression, Herbie may have been the ebst of the bunch.

Hoover has gotten too much of a bad rap. Yes, he tried the austerity route of getting out of a depression. It hadn’t yet been proven that that wouldn’t work. His experience is what proved that. Now if only the right wingers were capable of learning from experience.

He was a really good guy other than that, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:15:15pm

re: #187 Belafon

I get what they’re going for, but they’re trying too hard. He doesn’t need flaming hair.

I like Wonkette’s Bernie meme==>

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:15:45pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

The more honest ones love him and not Reagan. Democrat but Cleveland is popular too. Coolidge was awful though. The worst president of a decade filled with bad presidents. For all the blame he gets for the depression, Herbie may have been the ebst of the bunch.

I will grant Coolidge exactly one thing: he was decent enough to sign the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:16:02pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

I think the image is idiotic. Not a way to convince fence sitters and skeptics that you are not a flake.

Note the group is @bipartisanism. Might not be friendlies.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:16:25pm

Bernie’s campaign should just pay Wonkette a millions dollars or so for the design Shypixel came up with.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:17:10pm

You fuckers keep beating me to the punch today!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:17:14pm

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hoover has gotten too much f a bad rap. Yes, he tried the austerity route of getting out of a depression. It hadn’t yet been proven that that wouldn’t work. His experience is what proved that. Now if only the right wingers were capable of learning from experience.

He was a really good guy other than that, though.

That would be my opinion exactly. I definitely like him better than crooked Harding and could care less Coolidge though I have read that Coolidge may have been suffering from depression following the untimely death of his son in the middle of his presidency.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:17:29pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

Bernie’s campaign should just pay Wonkette a millions dollars or so for the design Shypixel came up with.

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Ah, but I wonder who owns the base IP? That could get messy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:18:00pm

re: #194 William Lewis

I will grant Coolidge exactly one thing: he was decent enough to sign the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

Didn’t know that. But that’s a plus.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:18:06pm

re: #194 William Lewis

I will grant Coolidge exactly one thing: he was decent enough to sign the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

coolidge was also known for his dry sense of humor:

society lady: “mr president, i bet my bridge partners that i could get more than two words out of you!!”

coolidge: “you lose.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:18:50pm

re: #201 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

coolidge was also known for his dry sense of humor:

society lady: “mr president, i bet my bridge partners that i could get more than two words out of you!!”

coolidge: “you lose.”

That one always did amuse me. I am a presidential history buff but I got a little too drunk once and had him saying “fuck you.”

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:19:00pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

I think the image is idiotic. Not a way to convince fence sitters and skeptics that you are not a flake.

I was trying to say that nicely. :)

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:20:44pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

That one always did amuse me. I am a presidential history buff but I got a little too drunk once and had him saying “fuck you.”

Doing your own version of Drunk History, eh?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:22:08pm

re: #194 William Lewis

I will grant Coolidge exactly one thing: he was decent enough to sign the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

I don’t know if decency had anything to do with it. The party bosses figured: “Women just got the vote and they might vote against us. Here’s a group that can’t vote yet—if we give them the vote, they’ll vote for us.”

Problem is, this gave Indians US citizenship—unasked-for, really—and since a country doesn’t sign treaties with its own citizens, that’s where a lot of the reneging on Indian treaties got started.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:22:10pm

re: #199 William Lewis

Ah, but I wonder who owns the base IP? That could get messy.

Looks like Shy took the image of the DeLorean from the movie poster, but Wonkette has been selling t-shirts with that for a while now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:22:37pm

re: #204 TedStriker

Doing your own version of Drunk History, eh?

Oh I was doing drunk history before there was drunk history. I’ve been wanting to do one of the “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” speech because I do a somewhat decent Nixon. Gotta get some whiskey in the system first though. I usually can’t do voices but if I say so myself, my Nixon is okay,.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:25:25pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Oh I was doing drunk history before there was drunk history. I’ve been wanting to do one of the “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” speech because I do a somewhat decent Nixon. Gotta get some whiskey in the system first though. I usually can’t do voices but if I say so myself, my Nixon is okay,.

30-40 years ago I used to do a killer Carl Sagan impression, but too many people said “Who?” I also used to do Orson Bean (a descendant of Calvin Coolidge BTW), but had trouble stopping once and gave it up.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:25:27pm
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:28:02pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Have to disagree here - definitely not big enough to be a nuke. We’re talking several orders of magnitude. A nuke would have completely leveled a large area (depending on how many megatons it was) and there would have been many more people dead.

A nuke wouldn’t have had all the flaming debris coming down from the cloud that I saw in the videos. Anything close enough to get swept into the cloud would have been vaporized by the blast.

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:31:07pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Have to disagree here - definitely not big enough to be a nuke. We’re talking several orders of magnitude. A nuke would have completely leveled a large area (depending on how many megatons it was) and there would have been many more people dead.

Yeah. From memory, even the smallest nuke is like in the 2-4 kT range, so 100x more ummpf than this one had.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:31:36pm

re: #194 William Lewis

I will grant Coolidge exactly one thing: he was decent enough to sign the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

Did Chuck cover that in his book?

He fucked Coolidge more than Coolidge could be fucked, because now, I associate the two.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:31:56pm

re: #208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

30-40 years ago I used to do a killer Carl Sagan impression, but too many people said “Who?” I also used to do Orson Bean (a descendant of Calvin Coolidge BTW), but had trouble stopping once and gave it up.

I do an Irish one too. My friends say it suck but what the fuck do they know, they’ve never been there. But on the subject of presidents, I had an instructor once who knew every president since Nixon since had been director of Nixon’s presidential library I think at one point. Not sure if anyone has ever heard of Richard Norton Smith. He’s more a historian than actual academic but he was one of the most fascinating instructors I’ve had. He’s probably a Republican not sure if he still is but a lot of his biographies have been about liberal Republicans of the past like Dewey and Nelson Rockefeller and I think I saw in his biography he worked for Ed Brooke too so who knows, he could be that endangered of species but anyhow, when we talked about Ford in class, he whips out a VHS and shows him speaking at President Ford’s funeral and when we had class the night of Lincoln’s bicentennial birthday, he was returning from an event with Doris Kearns Goodwin and President Obama, the former of which he used on a first name basis. Really nice guy. I ran into him not long before I graduated and told him how much I appreciated his class.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:32:38pm

re: #212 #FergusonFireside

Did Chuck cover that in his book?

He fucked Coolidge more than Coolidge could be fucked, because now, I associate the two.

I’d be shocked if there was any actual scholarship in CCJ’s book. Probably just yay lesser taxes and regulation on big business.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:33:52pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

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So now Trump will promise to replenish China’s automobiles.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:34:17pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

And the Nagasaki bomb was pretty small compared to modern nuclear weapons.

Bombs with the yield of the Nagasaki bombs can now be delivered by artillery shell.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:34:54pm

I’d love for someone to parody the song “Goldfinger” and replace Goldfinger with Trump. Wouldn’t even have to replace the other lyrics. Donald even looks like Auric Goldfinger a little only not as portly.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:39:03pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

I’d love for someone to parody the song “Goldfinger” and replace Goldfinger with Trump. Wouldn’t even have to replace the other lyrics. Donald even looks like Auric Goldfinger a little only not as portly.

If you say Trumpfinger three times in the mirror your prostate checks itself.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:39:36pm

Proceed.

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:40:31pm

re: #208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

30-40 years ago I used to do a killer Carl Sagan impression, but too many people said “Who?” I also used to do Orson Bean (a descendant of Calvin Coolidge BTW), but had trouble stopping once and gave it up.

And son of George Frederick Burrows, one of the founders of the ACLU:

Bean was born Dallas Frederick Burrows in Burlington, Vermont, the son of Marian Ainsworth (née Pollard) and George Frederick Burrows. His father was a founding member of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a fund-raiser for the Scottsboro Boys’ defense, and a 20-year member of the campus police of Harvard College.[1] Orson graduated from the Cambridge Rindge and Latin School. He is a first cousin twice removed of Calvin Coolidge, who was President of the United States at the time of Bean’s birth.[2] Orson Bean is a founding member of The Sons of the Desert, the international Laurel and Hardy Society. Bean served for two years in the United States Army stationed in Japan (1946-1947).

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:41:19pm

Thought you might like this (h/t Balloon Juice):

Edit: British to English translation (I just learned): Fanny is slang for vagina.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:42:14pm

re: #220 TedStriker

And son of George Frederick Burrows, one of the founders of the ACLU:

I know I’ve asked probably before but what makes a first cousin twice removed different from say a second cousin? I’ve been doing genealogy research for some years now and I still don’t get it.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:45:10pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I know I’ve asked probably before but what makes a first cousin twice removed different from say a second cousin? I’ve been doing genealogy research for some years now and I still don’t get it.

I had a cousin who was twice removed. The first time, they removed him to Chino. He was caught in crimes again while on parole so the second time they removed him to Soledad.

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makeitstop  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:46:05pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Hahaha wouldn’t that be something but he likes them from Eastern Europe. Ivana was Czech and Melania is Slovene. So magic 8 ball says Albania*
* Just because I did a group report on Albania in Eastern European Nationalism class.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:47:35pm

re: #223 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I had a cousin who was twice removed. The first time, they removed him to Chino. He was caught in crimes again while on parole so the second time they removed him to Soledad.

Ha! Okay serious question though. So my guess is a second cousin would be a great grandchild of a sibling of your great grandparent’s. That is to say. My great grandfather’s sister’s great granddaughter would be my second guess and then I keep on adding to each proceeding generation. Gx3 becomes third. Gx4 becomes fourth etc.

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:48:36pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I know I’ve asked probably before but what makes a first cousin twice removed different from say a second cousin? I’ve been doing genealogy research for some years now and I still don’t get it.

en.wikipedia.org

First cousins twice removed[edit]
Two people for whom a first cousin relationship is two generations removed. The grandchild of one’s first cousin; also the first cousin of one’s grandparent.

Harry and his grandfather’s first cousin, Emma, are first cousins twice removed.

There exist numerous addition terms to describe the relationship of first cousin twice removed more specifically and accurately:

For a male in a higher generation, “2nd granduncle”
For a female in a higher generation, “2nd grandaunt”
For a male in a lower generation, “2nd grandnephew”
For a female in a lower generation, “2nd grandniece”

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:49:07pm

re: #223 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I had a cousin who was twice removed. The first time, they removed him to Chino. He was caught in crimes again while on parole so the second time they removed him to Soledad.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:49:33pm

re: #224 makeitstop

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Video

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:50:26pm

re: #226 TedStriker

en.wikipedia.org

Okay slowly getting it.

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CleverToad  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:52:26pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Generations. Your second cousins are the children of your parent’s first cousins, i.e. you and the second cousin are in the same generation. An example of a first cousin once removed would be your first cousin’s child; twice removed would be that first cousin’s grandchild.

Fun, ain’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 7:55:19pm

re: #230 CleverToad

Generations. Your second cousins are the children of your parent’s first cousins, i.e. you and the second cousin are in the same generation. An example of a first cousin once removed would be your first cousin’s child; twice removed would be that first cousin’s grandchild.

Fun, ain’t it?

Ah that does make sense. So my grandmother’s sister’s son’s kids are my second while my first cousin’s kids would be mine first once removed. Always has confused me some

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:01:35pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

You think that’s confusing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:03:12pm

re: #220 TedStriker

Orson Bean (a descendant of Calvin Coolidge BTW),

And father-in-law to the late Andrew Breitbart.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:09:58pm

re: #224 makeitstop

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Video

Oh my dog.

You found the Coach singing about Albania. We sang this when I was in college so long ago. Seeing it again made me realize we fucked up the lyrics. But the beginning always remained the same: You border on the Adriatic!

TYTY

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CleverToad  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:12:06pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

It’s easier to see the generation steps when you’re looking at a standard family ‘tree’ diagram. Makes for fun conversations at the big family reunions/weddings/funerals, trying to figure out who’s what to whom!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:13:23pm

re: #233 Eric The Fruit Bat

Orson Bean’s epitaph reads, “X Gets the Square”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:15:02pm

re: #235 CleverToad

It’s easier to see the generation steps when you’re looking at a standard family ‘tree’ diagram. Makes for fun conversations at the big family reunions/weddings/funerals, trying to figure out who’s what to whom!

For sure. Family research is one big puzzle.

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danarchy  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:17:33pm

re: #224 makeitstop

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Video

To this day everything I know about albania I learned in that cheers episode. I wonder if their chief export is still chrome…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:18:58pm

re: #238 danarchy

To this day everything I know about albania I learned in that cheers episode. I wonder if their chief export is still chrome…

The Simpsons said it was furious political debate.

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danarchy  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:22:16pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

The Simpsons said it was furious political debate.

The OEC says it is petroleum, but chromium ore is in the top 5.

Top 5 Products exported by Albania Crude Petroleum (23%), Leather Footwear (9.3%), Footwear Parts (5.3%), Semi-Finished Iron (3.4%), and Chromium Ore (3.3%)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:25:49pm

Albania built more than 700,000 bunkers during the rule of dictator Enver Hoxha.

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:25:59pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Ha! Okay serious question though. So my guess is a second cousin would be a great grandchild of a sibling of your great grandparent’s. That is to say. My great grandfather’s sister’s great granddaughter would be my second guess and then I keep on adding to each proceeding generation. Gx3 becomes third. Gx4 becomes fourth etc.

2nd cousins share great grandparents. It sounds like you’re talking about 3rd cousins.

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:28:37pm

Nth cousins share (N-1)x great grandparent(s).

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:29:14pm

I’m My Own Grandpa:
Video

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:30:21pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I know I’ve asked probably before but what makes a first cousin twice removed different from say a second cousin? I’ve been doing genealogy research for some years now and I still don’t get it.

First cousins share the same grandfather/grandmother. Second cousins the same great-grandfather/mother. Once removed means your first cousin’s kids wrt to you.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:32:56pm

re: #66 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

cheeto bake

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I got to ask, has he been baked to a delicate crunch or deep fried to a crackly crunch?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:38:00pm

re: #220 TedStriker

And son of George Frederick Burrows, one of the founders of the ACLU:

I always thought of him as a pretty liberal guy—seems like he turned into a wingnut in his old age, though. Too bad.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:44:39pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

I still think the Republican nominee is going to end up being Jeb Bush, by the way. The Trump drama is going to fade away. It’s Jeb’s turn, and the GOP will make sure that happens.

Charles what is happening now really reminds me of Goldwater’s 1964 campaign. This time Trump is using Goldwater’s playbook. Trump will take Iowa and then I honestly believe Jeb is going to fizzle out after he loses New Hampshire and South Carolina to Trump. Trump will then take Nevada and the anti-Trump forces are going to stay divided.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 12, 2015 • 8:49:43pm

re: #152 CleverToad

I like The Carnival of Monsters, being a fan of the Third Doctor and Jo Grant, and a major fan of Ian Marter. Ian actually got to watch the whole episode at a con in Buffalo 1985 — said he’d never had the chance to see it before, due to scheduling. He rather liked it! The special effects are dreadful, of course, but one always watched for the characters and the story.

Says the cranky OLD Doctor Who fan, not that I don’t like a lot of New Who.

I’ve liked Jon Pertwee ever since I first saw him in “The House That Dripped Blood”!

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vgranucci  Aug 12, 2015 • 10:04:15pm

re: #158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

nominate jeb and watch the base refuse to vote

Works for me

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thecommodore  Aug 13, 2015 • 12:35:19am

re: #158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

if they do i think it would be the stupidest thing the gop establishment ever did

if he wasnt already flat beer with the base, trump softening him up like a punching bag has finished him

nominate jeb and watch the base refuse to vote

Better - nominate Trump and watch the Democrats win easily.

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Scout  Aug 13, 2015 • 1:35:46am

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As a joke, I sent this to my Republican friend a while back, just to get his goat:

OK, here’s the plan:

Hillary / Michelle 2016, 2020
Michelle / Chelsea 2024, 2028
Chelsea / Malia 2032, 2036
Malia / ??? 2040, 2044

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2015 • 5:39:17am

re: #234 #FergusonFireside

Oh my dog.

You found the Coach singing about Albania. We sang this when I was in college so long ago. Seeing it again made me realize we fucked up the lyrics. But the beginning always remained the same: You border on the Adriatic!

TYTY

I can’t hear the name Albania without thinking of that song, and how Albania borders on the Adriatic!

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H.K. Anders  Aug 13, 2015 • 7:03:58am

Hey, Rand? If you’re holding the Constitution in one hand, you’re already holding the Bill of Rights in the same hand. They’re the same document. Just sayin’.

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Csarneson  Aug 13, 2015 • 7:17:40am

It seems that these guys who love to wrap themselves in the constitution mostly do it too tightly. It ends up cutting off the blood supply to their brain.


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