Wednesday Jam: Drew Ofthe Drew, "Forget Me"

Wednesday Jam: Drew Ofthe Drew, “Forget Me”

Stop callin’ me up in the middle of the night

MusicAugust 2015 • Views: 72,735

Here’s an excellent new single from a great new band, Drew Ofthe Drew. It rocks, it’s funky, it’s funny, just dig it.

The first single off our upcoming album ‘What Does It Do’

Video/Bass - Drew Ofthe Drew
Vocals - Joanna Teters
Guitar - Maddie Rice
Drums - JP Bouvet and Ian Barnett
Drawings - Lailah Abonami
Camera Operator - Josh Trappler
2nd Unit Director - Ethan Moore

Buy it now here!
drewofthedrew.bandcamp.com

Also available on iTunes and Spotify.

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630 comments

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 12, 2015 • 8:34:39pm

I realize people mean well, but I’m going to get a t-shirt that says “Let Go of the Damn Door. Thanks anyway.”

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 8:40:21pm

re: #1 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I realize people mean well, but I’m going to get a t-shirt that says “Let Go of the Damn Door. Thanks anyway.”

I want one that says: “Do you really think none of the twelve us standing here waiting tried the door already?”

RadicalModerate Aug 12, 2015 • 8:44:16pm

New trailer for the upcoming Doctor Who season is out.

…

Also, just a tidbit of information from folks speculating that the futuristic city depicted in both trailers are of Gallifrey.
It isn’t Gallifrey.

It’s Skaro.

If you doubt this, check out images from way back in 1963 for “The Daleks”.

The War TARDIS Aug 12, 2015 • 8:44:48pm

Was able to get through Carnival of Monsters./em> It did get better towards the end. Still the worst Classic Who Story I have seen thus far. Though Edge of Destruction was forgettable.

Still can’t decide which Doctor I like more between 2 and 3.

However, my personal ranking is

11 or 12
then
2 or 3
then
War
then
9
then
10

Onto The Green Death.

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 12, 2015 • 8:45:41pm

Old news, but I just heard about it tonight at dinner from my daughter’s friend, who was there at the mall with her newborn baby at the time of the shooting.
kcci.com

Long story short, a security guard was pissed this girl was ignoring him, so he shot her — three times in the back. He had a permit for the handgun used.

Not a mass shooting, but my daughter’s friend was still scared shitless, hearing those popping noises and people screaming.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 8:47:12pm

re: #5 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Old news, but I just heard about it tonight at dinner from my daughter’s friend, who was there at the mall with her newborn baby at the time of the shooting.
kcci.com

Long story short, a security guard was pissed this girl was ignoring him, so he shot her — three times in the back. He had a permit for the handgun used.

Not a mass shooting, but my daughter’s friend was still scared shitless, hearing those popping noises and people screaming.

Yeah, that was charming. All of a sudden Paul Blart doesn’t look so bad.

The War TARDIS Aug 12, 2015 • 8:48:14pm

re: #3 RadicalModerate

That’s what I think too.

Also, Doctor and Clara are handsy. Everyone I talk to think they are an item, and stuff put out by the BBC and Jenna Coleman is helping with that theory.

I think Gallifrey will come back at the end of Capaldi’s & Moffat’s run. That he will find it, and regenerate into the 13th, or the process of getting it back will force the regeneration.

If Coleman stays on for Series 10 like Capaldi wants, I can up up with an scenario that would make people cry, and hate Moffat forever.

BlueGrl21 Aug 12, 2015 • 8:50:07pm

After Rand Paul got gnawed on by Trump today….I have a vision. A selfish, wrong vision, but I’m just that shallow.

Ted Cruz going after The Donald. And Trump’s retort.

I am in Texas. Some of my friends and family are die-hard Cruz zealots. I am going to need to see this happen in order to feel joy.

Then Trump can go 3rd party. After Ted Cruz is savaged.

Thanks for your support.

The War TARDIS Aug 12, 2015 • 8:54:19pm

Moffat is expected to leave at the end of next Series.

He has said he is beginning to get worn out, and wants to start writing small little plays.

And Doctors usually last about 3 seasons.

So, it is likely we will have a whole new crew come 2017.

Question is, who could replace Moffat as showrunner. There is really no one who can readily, and apparently fill his shoes.

The closest I could come up with would be Neil Cross, who wrote Rings of Akhetan and Hide. Or Jamie Matheson, who wrote Mummy on the Orient Express and Flatline.

#FergusonFireside Aug 12, 2015 • 8:57:17pm

re: #5 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Old news, but I just heard about it tonight at dinner from my daughter’s friend, who was there at the mall with her newborn baby at the time of the shooting.
kcci.com

Long story short, a security guard was pissed this girl was ignoring him, so he shot her — three times in the back. He had a permit for the handgun used.

Not a mass shooting, but my daughter’s friend was still scared shitless, hearing those popping noises and people screaming.

Oh wow. :(

Kragar Aug 12, 2015 • 9:05:02pm

re: #9 The War TARDIS

Mark Gatiss

The War TARDIS Aug 12, 2015 • 9:07:10pm

re: #11 Kragar

But he does Sherlock with Moffat.

Also, his story writing hisory is not as good as Moffat’s. I am judging on strength of Episodes, and Moffat’s are almost always very strong.

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 9:11:18pm

The pictures coming out this morning (morning in China) from Tianjin are biblical. Whatever blew up there was Yooge. Someone should be fired.

cnn.com

That is some major league destruction. The heat and blast wave must have been tremendous.

Chances are we’ll never know what the trigger and explosive was (the Chinese don’t generally release that info), but that damage looks like a fuel-air bomb with a heavier-than-air primary.

Damn.

Oh, and good evening, Lizard Nation.

The War TARDIS Aug 12, 2015 • 9:18:22pm

Are we sure it was equivalent only 21 Tons of TNT? I heard this somewhere else as well.

Reports are the explosion in Tianjin knocked down buildings 10km/6 miles away. Never seen anything like it before.
— Nash (@Nash076) August 13, 2015

This seems more like Halifax in scope. And that was 2-3 kt.

aagcobb Aug 12, 2015 • 9:24:19pm

re: #8 BlueGrl21

After Rand Paul got gnawed on by Trump today….I have a vision. A selfish, wrong vision, but I’m just that shallow.

Ted Cruz going after The Donald. And Trump’s retort.

I am in Texas. Some of my friends and family are die-hard Cruz zealots. I am going to need to see this happen in order to feel joy.

Then Trump can go 3rd party. After Ted Cruz is savaged.

Thanks for your support.

Cruz is too busy fellating Trump to attack him.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 12, 2015 • 9:25:12pm

re: #8 BlueGrl21

After Rand Paul got gnawed on by Trump today….I have a vision. A selfish, wrong vision, but I’m just that shallow.

Ted Cruz going after The Donald. And Trump’s retort.

I am in Texas. Some of my friends and family are die-hard Cruz zealots. I am going to need to see this happen in order to feel joy.

Then Trump can go 3rd party. After Ted Cruz is savaged.

Thanks for your support.

We are still in the early stages of the campaign…wait until the competition stiffens and the stakes get higher.

aagcobb Aug 12, 2015 • 9:28:56pm

In news of interest, US District Court Judge David Bunning (son of former Senator and Baseball HOFer Jim Bunning) granted injunctive relief against Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and ordered her to resume issuing marriage licenses, which she has refused to do since ssm became legal. Davis has asked for a stay while she appeals to the 6th Circuit.

kentucky.com

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 9:32:09pm

re: #14 The War TARDIS

Are we sure it was equivalent only 21 Tons of TNT? I heard this somewhere else as well.

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This seems more like Halifax in scope. And that was 2-3 kt.

Nah, a 42,000 pound bomb doesn’t do that much damage. Inverse square law of overpressure and such. That CNN picture of a multi-story column and slab building that was completely gutted tells a very different story, unless it was immediately adjacent to the blast point. And the thermal shock to that ginormous VW holding area.. well, glad I wasn’t there. That was a human-being-bursting-into-flames heat pulse.

Kind of reminds me of a very small tactical nuke, actually, like one of our old 155 mm artillery shells.

But the smaller detonations building up to The Big One tells me, no.

darthstar Aug 12, 2015 • 9:45:01pm

#beingevel pic.twitter.com/6Y16gZx47g

— Johnny Knoxville (@realjknoxville) August 13, 2015

Dark_Falcon Aug 12, 2015 • 9:50:51pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Nah, a 42,000 pound bomb doesn’t do that much damage. Inverse square law of overpressure and such. That CNN picture of a multi-story column and slab building that was completely gutted tells a very different story, unless it was immediately adjacent to the blast point. And the thermal shock to that ginormous VW holding area.. well, glad I wasn’t there. That was a human-being-bursting-into-flames heat pulse.

Kind of reminds me of a very small tactical nuke, actually, like one of our old 155 mm artillery shells.

But the smaller detonations building up The Big One tells me, no.

Concur. The biggest blast seems to have been a secondary explosion.

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 9:54:39pm

re: #17 aagcobb

In news of interest, US District Court Judge David Bunning (son of former Senator and Baseball HOFer Jim Bunning) granted injunctive relief against Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and ordered her to resume issuing marriage licenses, which she as refused to do since ssm became legal. Davis has asked for a stay while she appeals to the 6th Circuit.

kentucky.com

Well, he’s not as crazy as his old man turned out to be at the end of his career. A sad story, that…

en.wikipedia.org

Wingnuttia makes for unfortunate personal relationships.

Ted Cruz should take notice. He hasn’t made a lot of friends in the Senate.

Hard core Teabaggers love him, though, so if (if?) The Donald™ flames out, Ted should get a bump.

darthstar Aug 12, 2015 • 9:56:41pm

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 12, 2015 • 9:59:47pm

re: #8 BlueGrl21

After Rand Paul got gnawed on by Trump today….I have a vision. A selfish, wrong vision, but I’m just that shallow.

Ted Cruz going after The Donald. And Trump’s retort.

I am in Texas. Some of my friends and family are die-hard Cruz zealots. I am going to need to see this happen in order to feel joy.

Then Trump can go 3rd party. After Ted Cruz is savaged.

Thanks for your support.

cruz, that ambitious, calculating machine who seems to have no conscience, figures on inherting trump’s voters and will do everything he can to keep on his good side

but he aint a gonna get the nomination nor the veep nohow noway. the gop establishment hatez him like sin

cruz’s best bet is trump running on a third party ticket - then cruz can be #2 in the new party

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 10:02:02pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Concur. The biggest blast seems to have been a secondary explosion.

Yeah, but of what? I mean, this is a 24/7 port in a city of thirteen million people. What would be the fuel source? Do they have a big ass Liquid Natural Gas facility there? Do they routinely handle LNG tankers? That could account for it. But this was not a Halifax ammo ship or a Baytown fertilizer ship.

This happened fast. Those were slow motion disasters that developed over several hours.

darthstar Aug 12, 2015 • 10:03:44pm

Stolen from a friend’s facebook post:

Jen, reading Harry Potter to Atlee, “… telephone box.”
Atlee: *confused look*
Jen, by way of explanation: “A telephone booth.”
Atlee: *full-on RCA dog confusion*
Jen, by way of further explanation: “Like a TARDIS.”
Atlee: *Nods in understanding*

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 10:03:50pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Nah, a 42,000 pound bomb doesn’t do that much damage. Inverse square law of overpressure and such. That CNN picture of a multi-story column and slab building that was completely gutted tells a very different story, unless it was immediately adjacent to the blast point. And the thermal shock to that ginormous VW holding area.. well, glad I wasn’t there. That was a human-being-bursting-into-flames heat pulse.

Kind of reminds me of a very small tactical nuke, actually, like one of our old 155 mm artillery shells.

But the smaller detonations building up The Big One tells me, no.

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Concur. The biggest blast seems to have been a secondary explosion.

Since somebody mentioned Fuel-Air Explosives earlier:

The Father of All Bombs

Looks pretty similar actually.

Dark_Falcon Aug 12, 2015 • 10:08:16pm

re: #26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Since somebody mentioned Fuel-Air Explosives earlier:

The Father of All Bombs

Looks pretty similar actually.

Grain dust, perhaps? That can produce FAE-type result at times.

goddamnedfrank Aug 12, 2015 • 10:08:28pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Nah, a 42,000 pound bomb doesn’t do that much damage. Inverse square law of overpressure and such.

This assumes that the far away buildings knocked down were originally built to anything resembling modern code. They could have been Great Leap Forward era lean-tos made of unreinforced compressed turd for all we know.

Dark_Falcon Aug 12, 2015 • 10:15:47pm

I Hate Ukrainian Nazis! And I hate Nazis even more when they get their sick talons into children. Russian propagandists have a field day whenever photos like this come out, and its easy to understand why. The ‘Azov Regiment’ uses the rune of the 2nd SS Panzer Division ‘Das Reich’, which committed horrible crimes virtually where ever they went in a war that saw them in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Hungary, France, and Belgium.

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 10:17:17pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Those pictures are insane.

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 10:24:39pm

re: #26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Since somebody mentioned Fuel-Air Explosives earlier:

The Father of All Bombs

Looks pretty similar actually.

Yeah, that was me. But the problem with this being a fuel-air bomb scenario is that they lay out a sheet of flammable gas before self-detonating. In this particular case, at least one, maybe two detonations occurred before The Thing blew the city to hell.

It’s not likely that with on-going ignition sources from the one (or two) previous detonations you would be able to get a spread of gas for the massive detonation that a fuel-air bomb can create. The fires from the previous detonations would short-circuit the whole physics of the weapon concept.

So there has to be another explanation.

(By the way, this is all Emergency Response porn for us in the business. I am lurking on an On Scene Supervisor board and people are going ape-shit. This is a really big deal. Folks are looking at the damage and predicting hundreds to thousands of fatalities, based on the initial damage reports. Early days, but it has certainly taken their minds off of the Durango spill, as it is awful but mundane and nothing that can be controlled once it occurs. The Genie is out of the bottle. This incident is pure sex for ER folks.)

goddamnedfrank Aug 12, 2015 • 10:30:08pm

Chinese authorities are reporting that they’ve lost contact with 36 firefighters from the scene. Hard to imagine anybody within a half mile of that thing surviving.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 10:31:59pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Chinese authorities are reporting that they’ve lost contact with 36 firefighters from the scene. Hard to imagine anybody within a half mile of that thing surviving.

Damn! It was two last I heard. Maybe if that many firefighters were on the scene they’d evacuated a lot of the civilians by the time the big blasts came. Fingers crossed….

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 10:34:06pm

Here’s Widespread Panic playing Buffalo Springfield’s “For What It’s Worth” with Brendan Bayliss from Umphrey’s McGee sitting in. “For What It’s Worth” with some indulgent guitar soloing!

…

Ace-o-aces Aug 12, 2015 • 10:35:25pm

re: #25 darthstar

Stolen from a friend’s facebook post:

Reminds me of when I found an old disposable camera and had to explain to my daughter what “film” is.

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 10:37:28pm

And a shout-out and happy birthday to the master of suspense.

August 13, 1899 - Alfred Hitchcock an English film director and producer is born in Essex, England pic.twitter.com/X3ArzrLsUZ

— OnThisDay & Facts (@NotableHistory) August 13, 2015

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 10:38:12pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

This assumes that the far away buildings knocked down were originally built to anything resembling modern code. They could have been Great Leap Forward era lean-tos made of unreinforced compressed turd for all we know.

Oh, I agree. All I was saying was that if you dropped 42 1,000 pound bombs on a 7 X 6, 100-yard grid, you would do much more damage than a 42,000 pound bomb detonating at a single point. The damage in those photographs indicates a much larger explosion.

Shiplord Kirel Aug 12, 2015 • 10:42:18pm

Looking at the video from the Tianjin explosion. It looks more like a bulk, ie uncontained, solid explosive than FAE, maybe boxed TNT or something like that. Note the spark-like streamers in the fireball from the second explosion, the really big one. This is not characteristic of a gas explosion. The close up video seems to show a point source on or near the ground for the second explosion.

Compare with the video of the “100 ton test” which detonated 108 tons of boxed TNT/RDX to calibrate various instruments before the Trinity nuclear test in 1945.
…
(Note the guy pounding the cases into position with a mallet at about 1:10. Nope. Nope. No way in hell.)

goddamnedfrank Aug 12, 2015 • 10:46:06pm

re: #33 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Damn! It was two last I heard. Maybe if that many firefighters were on the scene they’d evacuated a lot of the civilians by the time the big blasts came. Fingers crossed….

Nine firefighters confirmed dead, the rest missing. 17 total confirmed dead so far, not clear if that includes the 9 but that’s the way I read it. Anybody within two, maybe three miles probably lost their hearing and received significant flash burns if they could see the fireball. Then throw in glass and debris lacerations and injuries from collapsing structures.

Police in Tianjin said an initial blast took place at shipping containers in a warehouse for hazardous materials owned by Ruihai Logistics, a company that says it is properly approved to handle such materials. State media said senior management of the company had been detained by authorities, and that President Xi Jinping has demanded severe punishment for anyone found responsible for the explosions.

They’ll probably give the company’s CEO something resembling a trial then execute him, resuscitate him, then execute him again. Hard to envision them letting the guy live after this. Whether the Chinese government uses this to enact strict industrial safety regs remains to be seen.

Jenner7 Aug 12, 2015 • 10:54:14pm

Pig wrestling could turn into assault charges at Utah County Fair

The protesters, estimated at a dozen or less, were outnumbered by the 1,500 to 2,000 people in attendance to watch the annual event. The teams participating didn’t feel that the activity hurt the animals but when some protesters stepped into the wrestling area, they were pushed and tossed over a fence. It is possible those actions will bring assault charges.

kutv.com

One of the assholes wrestling pigs brought a confederate flag. Watch in disgust. I used to live in that area. Ugh…

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 10:56:12pm

On a lighter note, linked from the same page as Dark_Falcon’s Ukrainian Nazi story from #29—I guess we always knew Ed Mitchell was a nut, but this is…special:

‘Aliens tried to save America from nuclear war’: UFOs shot at missiles in White Sands to protect Earth, claims former astronaut.

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 11:02:58pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Looking at the video from the Tianjin explosion. It looks more like a bulk, ie uncontained, solid explosive than FAE, maybe boxed TNT or something like that. Note the spark-like streamers in the fireball from the second explosion, the really big one. This is not characteristic of a gas explosion. The close up video seems to show a point source on or near the ground for the second explosion.

Compare with the video of the “100 ton test” which detonated 108 tons of boxed TNT/RDX to calibrate various instruments before the Trinity nuclear test in 1945.
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(Note the guy pounding the cases into position with a mallet at about 1:10. Nope. Nope. No way in hell.)

Okay, found a blogger who’s a Heathen Chinee (cute!):

allkpop.com

Sorry about the Heathen Chinee crack. She’s damn cute, though.

So a gas station initiated all of that? I’m all hmmm….

Jenner7 Aug 12, 2015 • 11:03:02pm

Lexi speaks. https://t.co/4PM6dxYq8a

— deray mckesson (@deray) August 13, 2015

Stupid personified…

Wow.

freetoken Aug 12, 2015 • 11:06:46pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

I always wonder about the guy hammering on those boxes, when I see that vid. I notice he’s using a rubber mallet, to avoid sparks I suppose.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 12, 2015 • 11:10:17pm

re: #43 Jenner7

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Stupid personified…

Wow.

I look at her face and I think “Williams syndrome”, but maybe that’s just me….

freetoken Aug 12, 2015 • 11:13:54pm

Had a girlfriend once who was from Tianjin. Last I heard she was living in Beijing now, but I hope her parents were not among the victims.

There have been of course massive industrial accidents in the US before, but not as many since government started to regulate businesses. But amazingly we still have demagogues and hate-radio decrying the need for gov’t to be regulated.

William Lewis Aug 12, 2015 • 11:14:57pm

So…
1. After 1:00AM check
2. New moon check
3. Max Perseid check
4. Clear skies aw fu*k.

Rain about an hour away and already cloudy. Bummer.

Shiplord Kirel Aug 12, 2015 • 11:15:40pm

re: #40 Jenner7

Pig wrestling could turn into assault charges at Utah County Fair

kutv.com

One of the assholes wrestling pigs brought a confederate flag. Watch in disgust. I used to live in that area. Ugh…

The Confederate flag hog-stuffer said, “People were calling us ‘racist animal abusers.’” Gee, why would they do that?
Looks like the pigs were winning at one point. I know they would beat these yahoos at Jeopardy.
These slack-jawed clowns are welcome to come out to the Conspiracy Compound and try to stuff my uninvited feral hog guests into a barrel.
Finally, I noticed that the head protester was by far the most attractive looking person there.

Jenner7 Aug 12, 2015 • 11:21:02pm

Ben Carson did research in 17 week fetal tissue https://t.co/mLSeBaHtwM via @DrJenGunter

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 13, 2015

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 11:23:35pm

Video of the explosion in China is horrifying. It’s like West, TX times twenty. I won’t be surprised if casualties number in the thousands.

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 11:27:38pm

Brand new cars parked near explosion site scorched to skeletons http://t.co/9pGBTyV8Om pic.twitter.com/bVwEhGx0tU

— Patrick Zuo (@P_Zuo) August 13, 2015

austin_blue Aug 12, 2015 • 11:28:18pm

Night all!

Sweet scaly dreams.

And Ben Carson is an asshole.

Time to sit on a chair in the back yard and stare at the sky. If I see one shooter, I’ll be a happy boy.

If not , I’ll probably fall asleep and get eaten by the hogs.

(Old song reference, probably too obscure. My apologies.)

Take care.

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 12, 2015 • 11:38:00pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

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Looks like something out of a Fallout video game.

Shiplord Kirel Aug 12, 2015 • 11:43:26pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Texas City explosion, April 16, 1947. 584 dead, 5000+ injured.

This parking lot was about 1/4 mile from the explosion:

The Tianjin disaster may well be worse.

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 11:45:00pm

I shook the hand of one of the most powerful people in the world today. I saw my senator Cory Gardner wandering around Vail today with his family and nanny. He seemed in good spirits, he told me he was having fun. His young son was getting down to a bluegrass rendition of “Maggie’s Farm” (I was working security for a bluegrass show in Vail, rough life) and Senator Gardner dutifully filmed most of it on his phone.

When I shook his hand I bit my tongue. I wanted to say something like “I didn’t vote you, man” but he was kind enough and was clearly happy and having a good time. Oh, and I’m taller than him!

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 11:49:26pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel

Texas City explosion, April 16, 1947. 584 dead, 5000+ injured.

This parking lot was about 1/4 mile from the explosion:

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The Tianjin disaster may well be worse.

Largest non-nuclear explosion in history. Until today? With the way the Chinese portion out information we may never know for sure.

Dr Lizardo Aug 12, 2015 • 11:51:21pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

Video of the explosion in China is horrifying. It’s like West, TX times twenty. I won’t be surprised if casualties number in the thousands.

Yeah, watching the news roundups of it, I have to agree with War Tardis; the second blast was something on the order of the 1917 Halifax Explosion, probably the equivalent of a couple of kilotons of TNT. I’m seeing elsewhere the (official) death toll is now up to 44, and sadly, I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes up considerably from there.

This one’s probably gonna rank as one of the deadliest industrial disasters in history when all is said and done.

teleskiguy Aug 12, 2015 • 11:54:09pm

Oh, I wanted to share this. Gorgeous shot from Chile.

One of most beautiful skiing photos I've ever seen. Skier: @ingridbackstrom Pic: @JesseJHoffman Place: @SkiPortillo pic.twitter.com/V9U5n2rWRn

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 12, 2015

teleskiguy is all like *drool*. Someday I’ll do an endless winter.

goddamnedfrank Aug 12, 2015 • 11:55:48pm

59% of Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, or where John Edwards was after it was revealed he cheated on his cancer stricken wife.

— Will McAvoy (@WillMcAvoyACN) August 13, 2015

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 12, 2015 • 11:57:39pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

Is that all???

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 12:00:26am

Over 100 inches of snow has fallen at Portillo, Chile in the last eight days.

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 12:09:26am

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like something out of a Fallout video game.

Yup.

Blasts at a port in China kill at least 44 people, including at least a dozen fire fighters http://t.co/8qsyEdN4XG pic.twitter.com/LTizYQRA5H

— AJE News (@AJENews) August 13, 2015

goddamnedfrank Aug 13, 2015 • 12:10:54am

re: #60 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Is that all???

It gets worse.

Beyond the horse race, the Quinnipiac University poll finds Trump’s favorability rating tilts sharply negative among all registered voters (59% unfavorable to 27% favorable) but more positive among Republicans (50% favorable to 33% unfavorable).

Looking at the cross tabs it’s damned near impossible for the party to unite behind him, the vast majority of Democrats and a clear majority of Independents, Women and even Men dislike him.

Teukka Aug 13, 2015 • 12:27:25am

Pic of the aftermath of the Tianjin blasts that was shared with me.
Viewer discretion is advised.

Click to Reveal

Image: 11856411_10153018253487217_118149512994655662_o.jpg

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 12:40:30am

Just stepped outside for a bowl-pack. I saw five meteors!

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 12:49:08am

Engineers and creationism… this time in Korea:

One of Korea’s top universities to offer course teaching creationism

Korea was targeted after WWII for proselytizing and sure enough decades later fundamentalist/evangelical Christians are quite numerous in RoK. When I was living in Japan many Koreans I met were such.

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 1:02:29am

For those who missed it - and I sure did - Biologos apparently had a get together in which they continued their effort at syncretizing science and Christianity. Yesterday they put up a bunch of videos on Youtube.

youtube.com

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 1:12:33am

Theologians use lots of big fancy words when they are afraid of the real conclusion.

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 1:33:31am

MP3 Audio

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 1:43:05am

I’m tempted to vote for Donald Trump just to hear the phrase “Secretary of State Gary Busey.”

— Conan O'Brien (@ConanOBrien) June 20, 2015

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 1:57:25am

The Biologos videos are, to me, mostly disappointing. They just can’t deal with owning up to what real differences exist. Then again, they are funded to “dialogue” and thus intend to grey out lines of differences.

Anyway, I think a couple of the presenters are still stuck in a level of self-deception, unwilling to take the real step - away from their previous presuppositions.

Ard Louis raises the spectre of “scientism” - which is Biologos’ current bugaboo about the non-believing scientists. In doing this they are just doing the same thing that the run-of-the-mill fundamentalists does at a cruder level, but it’s the same basic thing.

One video which is perhaps informative for those not versed in the history of creationism is that of Ted Davis, who is part of Biologos and thus a defender of their approach, but still gives some good short history of the matter:

…

KiTA Aug 13, 2015 • 1:58:10am

Just got back from stargazing out on the mesas (think that’s the right term) near Twin Falls. We got far enough out that we could see the Milky Way.

Not a terribly large number of shooting stars, but more than I expected. Was nice to get out of the house.

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 2:34:32am

‘Morning, all. Poor skies here in Baja Alabama, nothing worth loitering for.

The parking lot full of uniformly-constructed cars will give the engineers some good data on the Chinese blast. Interesting that the reported deaths are so heavily among firefighters. That’s who died (23) in the massive Picatinny explosion.

thevane.gawker.com

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 2:51:39am

Ho. Lee. Shit.

Images: Chinese port city rocked by massive explosions http://t.co/tKIdKk7ghG pic.twitter.com/bbKlFw0ApL

— AJE News (@AJENews) August 13, 2015

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 2:54:38am

re: #74 teleskiguy

If you’re moving your production to a location that skates on regulations, you really need to work that into your risk-management matrix. Lookin’ at you, Texas.

Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 2:58:35am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Interesting that the reported deaths are so heavily among firefighters. That’s who died (23) in the massive Picatinny explosion.

It’s probably easier to classify the firefighters as dead, they know how many went in and how many didn’t come out. As for the civilians, the survivors are probably spread across multiple hospitals and given the number of businesses, it’s probably hard to say exactly how many were in the area at the time of the explosion.

teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 2:58:39am

Have a fun day! pic.twitter.com/Q6qjIOn27w

— Ricky Gervais (@rickygervais) August 13, 2015

goddamnedfrank Aug 13, 2015 • 3:02:07am

re: #74 teleskiguy

Ho. Lee. Shit.

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When plastic and vinyl burn the chemicals that are released help destroy the ozone layer. That was a lot of plastic.

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 3:04:20am

re: #76 Timothy Watson

It’s probably easier to classify the firefighters as dead, they know how many went in and how many didn’t come out. As for the civilians, the survivors are probably spread across multiple hospitals and given the number of businesses, it’s probably hard to say exactly how many were in the area at the time of the explosion.

With any luck, while the firemen were running towards the initial fire/explosion, everybody else was bookin’ for the countryside. That there was a response shows some timelag between multiple events.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 3:11:43am

Sky is amazingly clear here in the backwoods.
Didn’t see too many meteorites and none of them were spectacular. But the stars are brilliant and the Milky Way is freaking gorgeous.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 3:30:45am

Geller loses again

Full story: Federal appeals court rules that anti-Muslim group can't post ads on Seattle buses http://t.co/kuUV8MzJOS

— Martha Bellisle (@marthabellisle) August 13, 2015

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 3:34:33am

Look who’s crying about being victimized now:

Conservative video-maker James O’Keefe: Homeland Security targeted me, asked intrusive questions

It’s a half-assed article.

Here’s my comment I left there:

O’keefe is a convicted criminal, something only hinted at in this article in the statement by the CBP. For the WaPo to try and pass O’Keefe off as just a “conservative video-maker” is not to fully describe the full extent of O’Keefe’s notorious past.

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 3:41:44am

Heh, it’s Iowa State Fair time, which means among the hogs, chickens, cattle, and horses being led around for show in the pavilions, so are the politicians:

[…]

Of course, an expected attendance of over 1 million makes the fair a must-attend for presidential candidates in both parties as they try to court voters here in the first-in-the-nation caucus state. One of their top fairgrounds destinations is the Des Moines Register’s Soapbox, a modern take on the old-fashioned political activity of “getting up on the soapbox.” Presidential candidates are given 20 minutes to make their pitch to attendees in any format. Hundreds turn out to see the spectacle, and candidates are often heckled.

Last time around, Mitt Romney made his infamous “corporations are people” comment at the soapbox. In 2007, then-Senator Barack Obama skipped the soapbox, instead taking daughters Sasha and Malia for a spin on the bumper cars.

Fourteen Republican candidates are expected to participate in the soapbox. On the Democratic side, soapbox participants include Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton will also attend the fair on Saturday.

[…]

freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 3:43:39am

Given his disdain for the Des Moines Register, I wonder if Trump will make use of their “soapbox”??

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 3:45:55am

re: #84 freetoken

Given his disdain for the Des Moines Register, I wonder if Trump will make use of their “soapbox”??

He’ll bring his own, classier soapbox. It’ll be …..

Lidane Aug 13, 2015 • 4:21:16am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

He’ll bring his own, classier soapbox. It’ll be …..

YOOOOOOOOOGE

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 4:36:07am

what an eejit

#AllLivesMatterToGod Racism isn't cause by SKIN but by SIN! My thoughts: http://t.co/TS58SP0X81 pic.twitter.com/TWZGeKfTAM

— Rick Warren (@RickWarren) August 13, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 4:47:10am

These are amazing.

20 Mesmerizing Mosque Ceilings That Highlight The Wonders Of Islamic Architecture http://t.co/haZl1iRxin pic.twitter.com/7ZdgzAjKJX

— Architecture (@archpics) August 10, 2015

The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 4:50:01am

re: #61 teleskiguy

Over 100 inches of snow has fallen at Portillo, Chile in the last eight days.

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BRYAN FISCHER: HURR HURR WEAR IS UR GLOBULL WARMING NOW!!!!!!

It’s winter there dumbass.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 13, 2015 • 5:23:26am

There’s a really really juicy story brewing in PA. The Attorney General, Kathleen Kane has been charged with leaking sealed grand jury evidence and covering it up, and related offenses. Kane does not seem to deny the facts of the case, but insists that the charges are politically motivated by the old boys’network. She insists that ending a corruption investigation in the Philadelphia area because it was only targeting Democrats has nothing to do with anything. Instead she says that the treasure trove of pornographic emails she is holding onto (sealed by a judge) will reveal the network that has aligned against her.

THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!!!

philly.com

“After saying her legal defense is not about her being a victim of some old boys’ network, she explained how some old boys’ network took her down because “that was their plan all along.”

“No names, of course. Just, you know, a vast porn conspiracy.

“She claimed that swappers of “pornographic, racial and religiously offensive” emails inside and outside the Attorney General’s Office under Tom Corbett worked to prevent being linked to their “filthy email chain” by discrediting her.

“So when she announced during her long investigation of the Jerry Sandusky case that all agency emails were being reviewed, the filth-mongers decided to get her.”

darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 5:26:04am

re: #58 teleskiguy

Buddy of mine is down there right now for a two week trip & ski clinic. I’m hoping it changes him…he’s an instructor and spends all of his time on groomers.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 5:27:23am

Kim Davis continues to be an asshole

Rowan Co clerk formally asks judge to stay his order compelling her to issue marriage licenses, so she can appeal to 6th Circuit. ^JC

— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) August 13, 2015

JadeHelmCurious Aug 13, 2015 • 5:28:00am

re: #82 freetoken

Look who’s crying about being victimized now:

Conservative video-maker James O’Keefe: Homeland Security targeted me, asked intrusive questions

It’s a half-assed article.

Here’s my comment I left there:

Look at this Philosoraptor:

Paul Short
2:19 AM GMT-1000
O’Keefe is far more trustworthy than the media and the government. Sadly, the media is mostly run by money and what will sell, rather than the truth. And the government is a bloated titanic that employs perhaps well intended people, but with perverse incentives.

The Idiocracy Zombie Virus has no known cure. Except maybe an asteroid.

darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 5:32:19am

But she has to have nice, big, respectable titties…because he loves and cherishes women. https://t.co/gmWyNIWVa2

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 13, 2015

Trump strongly considering female running mate: http://t.co/gyCxXq9c3t pic.twitter.com/YMKt8CIU3k

— The Hill (@thehill) August 13, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 5:32:59am

In case his autographed baseball for $250 wasn’t special enough, Rand’s got his one-of-a-kind stinky previously used baseball jersey for $1,000:

We’ve got new gear in our store. Grab a limited edition baseball jersey signed by Senator Paul today! https://t.co/FK5hHEDrfv

— Dr. Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 12, 2015

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 5:37:37am

re: #86 Lidane

YOOOOOOOOOGE

Trump has just officially become a straight line.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 5:38:58am

One of the biggest scandals of the 1920s has been solved http://t.co/NC7W2vzgTt pic.twitter.com/g3SP8ef7lh

— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 13, 2015

Long before Lucy Mercer, Kay Summersby or Monica Lewinsky, there was Nan Britton, who scandalized a nation with stories of carnal adventures in a White House coat closet and endured a ferocious backlash for publicly claiming that she bore the love child of President Warren G. Harding.

Now nearly a century later, according to genealogists, new genetic tests confirm for the first time that Ms. Britton’s daughter, Elizabeth Ann Blaesing, was indeed Harding’s biological child. The tests have solved one of the enduring mysteries of presidential history and offer new insights into the secret life of America’s 29th president. At the least, they demonstrate how the march of technology is increasingly rewriting the nation’s history books.

snip

The testing also found that President Harding had no ancestors from sub-Saharan Africa, answering another question that has intrigued historians. When Harding ran for president in 1920, segregationist opponents claimed he had “black blood.”

darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 5:41:45am

Huh?

Tweet 'I want to #TasteTheBush' and you could wine a case of wine! Winners chosen at random, good luck! pic.twitter.com/zUPqaxEW5K

— Premier Estates Wine (@premestateswine) August 11, 2015

Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 5:43:27am

re: #98 darthstar

Huh?

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Wine a case of wine!

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 5:45:02am

re: #98 darthstar

Vitis erotica.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 5:45:06am

It’s 0740, and I want a beer. Just finished the day’s work in the garden, humping the soil and containers for the transition to the Fall plantings. The daylight has just cleared the garden fence, and it’s pushing 80 degrees/80 humidity. Gonna make breakfast instead, but I deserve a beer.

102

Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 5:45:31am

Oh, Rick Warren is out from under his rock?

I really never understood what Obama had to do with him.

Gay Marriage ‘Graver Threat’ Than Divorce, Cohabitation, Rick Warren, Other Evangelicals, Catholics Declare

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JadeHelmCurious Aug 13, 2015 • 5:46:00am

re: #98 darthstar

Must be a European thing

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 5:46:19am

re: #101 Decatur Deb

It’s 0740, and I want a beer. Just finished the day’s work in the garden, humping the soil and containers for the transition to the Fall plantings. The daylight has just cleared the garden fence, and it’s pushing 80 degrees/80 humidity. Gonna make breakfast instead, but I deserve a beer.

In some places, beer is a breakfast food.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 5:46:29am

re: #94 darthstar

.@thehill He can borrow Mitt's binders full of women to find the best candidate.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 13, 2015

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 5:47:06am

Ted Cruz To Give Award To GOP Lawmaker Who Rehomed Adopted Daughters With Rapist https://t.co/WQxinDGyQ3 via @sharethis

— Steve M. (@nomoremister) August 13, 2015

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 5:47:47am

re: #102 Nyet

Oh, Rick Warren is out from under his rock?

I really never understood what Obama had to do with him.

Gay Marriage ‘Graver Threat’ Than Divorce, Cohabitation, Rick Warren, Other Evangelicals, Catholics Declare

Note to Rick. Gay marriage is here to stay. Deal with it.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 5:48:07am

Funny how it should be “one man, one woman, one time”, but they always forget the last part.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 5:48:53am

re: #102 Nyet

Oh, Rick Warren is out from under his rock?

I really never understood what Obama had to do with him.

Gay Marriage ‘Graver Threat’ Than Divorce, Cohabitation, Rick Warren, Other Evangelicals, Catholics Declare

He had the liberal ‘Sojourners’ preacher at the other end of the inauguration. That was in the two hours before the national honeymoon went to divorce lawyers.

110

Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 5:50:01am

re: #104 Iwouldprefernotto

In some places, beer is a breakfast food.

“Breakfast of Works Council Champions.”

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Charles Johnson Aug 13, 2015 • 5:50:34am

Chuck johnson has made his Facebook account public, and he’s threatening to doxx another alleged rape victim.

facebook.com

And…

We haven’t decided yet if we are suing Twitter executives personally. Stay tuned. This is going to get interesting.

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William Lewis Aug 13, 2015 • 5:52:25am

re: #102 Nyet

I really never understood what Obama had to do with him.

Same thing as when he attempted to reach out to the GOP in congress - he’s a sane an reasonable man so he presumed that others were as well. Warren is the same as ever, worrying about shit that doesn’t matter and ignoring the things that really do.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 5:53:11am

re: #90 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

There’s a really really juicy story brewing in PA. The Attorney General, Kathleen Kane has been charged with leaking sealed grand jury evidence and covering it up, and related offenses. Kane does not seem to deny the facts of the case, but insists that the charges are politically motivated by the old boys’network. She insists that ending a corruption investigation in the Philadelphia area because it was only targeting Democrats has nothing to do with anything. Instead she says that the treasure trove of pornographic emails she is holding onto (sealed by a judge) will reveal the network that has aligned against her.

THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!!!

philly.com

“After saying her legal defense is not about her being a victim of some old boys’ network, she explained how some old boys’ network took her down because “that was their plan all along.”

“No names, of course. Just, you know, a vast porn conspiracy.

“She claimed that swappers of “pornographic, racial and religiously offensive” emails inside and outside the Attorney General’s Office under Tom Corbett worked to prevent being linked to their “filthy email chain” by discrediting her.

“So when she announced during her long investigation of the Jerry Sandusky case that all agency emails were being reviewed, the filth-mongers decided to get her.”

One more state official who’s headed to prison for covering up corruption. This isn’t the way the Democrats wanted to start out holding the governorship of the Keystone State, but it looks like their AG there is about to melt down.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 5:53:49am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Chuck johnson has made his Facebook account public, and he’s threatening to doxx another alleged rape victim.

facebook.com

And…

What’s doing with his Gawker lawsuit? Hulk Hogan & that guy from Conde Nast are ahead of him in line.

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 5:54:36am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Chuck johnson has made his Facebook account public, and he’s threatening to doxx another alleged rape victim.

facebook.com

And…

Wow…he’s getting published on Facebook now? That is exclusive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 5:54:47am

re: #106 darthstar

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They had a last minute change of plans:

Jerry Cox explains why Rep. Justin Harris wasn't given award during @tedcruz event (via @TIME) http://t.co/xPoLddrk1I pic.twitter.com/s7XTZJxev2

— Mark Moseley (@KARKMark) August 13, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 5:55:00am

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 5:55:09am

re: #102 Nyet

I really never understood what Obama had to do with him.

Gay Marriage ‘Graver Threat’ Than Divorce, Cohabitation, Rick Warren, Other Evangelicals, Catholics Declare

I suspect it goes back to the clinging-to-guns-and-Bible comment Obama made. It was an accurate comment, but the truth apparently stung too much. In my opinion, Obama’s attempt to bend over backwards to accommodate the hate-wing of America only emboldened them.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 5:56:02am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Chuck johnson has made his Facebook account public, and he’s threatening to doxx another alleged rape victim.

facebook.com

And…

I clicked the link and got “Sorry, this content isn’t available right now”. But I’m not on Facebook, so that might be the problem right there.

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 5:56:24am

re: #117 Nyet

Easier said than done. It’s simple to exorcise someone from one’s timeline on Facebook, but to get them booted completely will take more than a complaint or two.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 5:57:11am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Chuck johnson has made his Facebook account public, and he’s threatening to doxx another alleged rape victim.

facebook.com

And…

UpChuck did it.
donotlink.com

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 5:57:44am

re: #115 darthstar

Wow…he’s getting published on Facebook now? That is exclusive.

He’s reaching literally like 100s to even 1000s of people!! Wow. Carry on, you little ginger freak.

123

Doofus Aug 13, 2015 • 5:58:52am

When is extreme too extreme? Tough Mudder!

Its first race in May 2010 drew 4,500 people; today, between 7,000 and 10,000 people pay about $200 each to enter one of 60 annual races offered in seven countries. Roughly 2 million people have competed so far, and Tough Mudder is estimated to be worth more than $86 million, according to Business Insider.
It’s also inspired a growing $200 million annual “mud race” market, which means Tough Mudder has had to up the ante to stay competitive.
In recent years, it’s added electric shocks, tear gas and two fire-based events; one drops participants through a ring of fire, the other forces them to slide through a 5-foot flame into water.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 5:59:24am

He is not shy about using the word “doxxing” now.

125

darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:01:10am

re: #117 Nyet

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Or just ignore him.

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 6:01:12am

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

If you’re logged into your facebook account you can see it.

Not that it is worth viewing. Just another collection of intentionally ugly and hateful people.

127

lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 6:01:36am

re: #47 William Lewis

We were out til about 11pm local time watching them in NYC metro. Not exactly dark sky country, but dark enough to see a bunch. Have to go back and check my photos to see if I caught any streaks, although I think I might have gotten a satellite running across the sky.

With good skies here again tonight, we might have another go.

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:01:45am

So I’m starting to think Trump has a speech writer after all…but it’s Dennis Miller.

Donald Trump Attacks Joe Biden: 'I Haven’t Been Involved in Plagiarism' http://t.co/0RP7DVNVjO pic.twitter.com/l3goJrDtDg

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) August 13, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 6:02:41am

re: #102 Nyet

Gay Marriage ‘Graver Threat’ Than Divorce, Cohabitation, Rick Warren, Other Evangelicals, Catholics Declare

Becuz the gay marriage threatens are Freedoms!!!

Normal person: how come county clerks didn’t try to deny marriage licenses to divorced couples and cohabitating couples?

because shut up

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:03:27am

re: #126 freetoken

If you’re logged into your facebook account you can see it.

Not that it is worth viewing. Just another collection of intentionally ugly and hateful people.

Charles needs to let Chuck go…put him in the same box as RSM, Geller, Twitchy…

131

makeitstop Aug 13, 2015 • 6:04:03am

re: #43 Jenner7

Lexi speaks.

Stupid personified…

Wow.

Yep, Meg Griffin.

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Charles Johnson Aug 13, 2015 • 6:05:46am

In case you were wondering, yes, he's still a sick freak. pic.twitter.com/jnQuHtGtes

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 13, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 6:05:57am

I’ll leave this pile of shit right here:

Charles C. Johnson
August 10 at 5:40pm
I know I’m not supposed to say this but single payer might actually work well in ethnically homogeneous societies….

Edit: Screenshot for prosperity

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 6:06:39am

re: #43 Jenner7

Stupid personified…

Wow.

Who’s “us” in this glorious narrative?

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 6:06:52am

re: #133 Dr. Matt

I’ll leave this pile of shit right here:

I’m beginning to think that CCJ was beaten as a child.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 6:07:34am

re: #133 Dr. Matt

I’ll leave this pile of shit right here:

Just stating hard Truths, here, is UpChuck. Brave. Courageous. Independent. Not racist.
////

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 6:07:46am

Dixon is black, which might indicate that Chuck’s misogynist agenda has a slightly higher priority than his white supremacist agenda.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 6:11:14am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck did it.
donotlink.com

Considering that the accused rapist is black and his alleged victim white, it seems UpChuck just told us his misogyny is even stronger than his racism.

As for the actual case, it sits stride both the issues of race and gender and as such I’d rather not speak about it for fear of putting my foot on a social land mine.

139

Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 6:13:43am

I’m almost sure he mulled over which narrative to choose - “blacks rape our white wimmins!” or “sluts lie about rape!”.

140

darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:16:01am

Great side-by-side El Nino amination with 1997 at link.

Breaking: Latest forecast suggests 'Godzilla El Nino' may be coming to California http://t.co/SwrUVCCGcW pic.twitter.com/dEWbXXrg0R

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) August 13, 2015

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 6:17:06am

Seattle City Council unanimously voted for $25 tax on gun sales, & ammo tax of 5¢ per round. Gun lobby to sue - http://t.co/bi30QNA0m0

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 13, 2015

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:18:18am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

One more state official who’s headed to prison for covering up corruption. This isn’t the way the Democrats wanted to start out holding the governorship of the Keystone State, but it looks like their AG there is about to melt down.

She melted when the BIG investigation of former AG and Gov. Tom Corbett found no wrongdoing, on which she based her entire campaign. After that she stopped the Philly Democrat sting, and that was probably the zenith of her tenure.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 6:18:37am

re: #139 Nyet

I’m almost sure he mulled over which narrative to choose - “blacks rape our white wimmins!” or “sluts lie about rape!”.

He probably went with the women-hate angle because Dipshit Roof spewed the “blacks rape our white wimmins!” lie when he committed his mass murder in Charleston. Even UpChuck doesn’t want to be associated with that, so he went with the rape denialism.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 6:19:59am

re: #141 lawhawk

Taxing law-abiding people over the actions of criminals is both unfair and unwise.

145

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:21:38am

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

Considering that the accused rapist is black and his alleged victim white, it seems UpChuck just told us his misogyny is even stronger than his racism.

As for the actual case, it sits stride both the issues of race and gender and as such I’d rather not speak about it for fear of putting my foot on a social land mine.

Sometimes misogyny and racism are a zero sum gain, you just gotta choose which is the priority.

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:22:16am

@DanaHoule Now dump a can of fruit cocktail into a mold filled with jello, and then you've got Midwest cuisine! pic.twitter.com/MUBos9obeM

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 13, 2015

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:22:25am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Taxing law-abiding people over the actions of criminals is both unfair and unwise.

How do you think we pay for prisons?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 13, 2015 • 6:23:27am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Taxing law-abiding people over the actions of criminals is both unfair and unwise.

It would be nice if we had the means to tell law-abiding citizens apart from criminals apart before the latter start murdering people.

149

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:24:16am

re: #117 Nyet

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 6:24:39am

BTW, after a person is cleared, it’s no longer right to call them an “alleged rapist”, unless you have strong reasons to think the court decision was unfair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 6:25:24am

UPDATE: Rowan Clerk Defies Order; Won't Give Gay CoupleMarriage License http://t.co/ckj8lwqAJ8

— justa farmer (@justafarmer4) August 13, 2015

Updated: Thu 9:18 AM, Aug 13, 2015
MOREHEAD, Ky. (APWSAZ) - The Rowan County clerk’s office has turned away a gay couple seeking a marriage license, defying a federal judge’s order that dismissed her argument involving religious freedom.

Hours after the judge’s order to issue licenses to same-sex couples, Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis’ office still turned away David Moore and David Ermold on Thursday morning.

Deputy clerk Nathan Davis says the office was advised by attorneys with the Christian law firm Liberty Counsel to continue refusing same-sex couples as it appeals the order.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 6:25:51am

re: #147 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

How do you think we pay for prisons?

Add a couple hundred grand to what they already charge defendants in court cases for court costs, appointed-lawyer fees, and restitution?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 13, 2015 • 6:26:06am

re: #146 darthstar

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Our midwestern family delicacy: combine one packet of Ore-Ida
frozen hash browns with a jar of cheese whiz, a tub of sour cream and a jar of pimentos. Bake until crust forms on top…

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 6:28:51am

re: #140 darthstar

Because so many other conditions come into play, try to predict what effect an El Nino will have is fraught with low confidence.

Plus, I wonder about the many other conditions which have changed since 1997. Overall the sea surface temperature is higher, and if you look at that side by side animation you will see some significant differences in SST in other parts of the Pacific.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:28:58am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Our midwestern family delicacy: combine one packet of frozrn hash browns with a jar of cheese whiz, a tub of sour cream and a jar of pimentos. Bake until crust forms on top…

And Europeans say Americans have no cuisine worth mentioning …
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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 6:29:58am

re: #147 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

How do you think we pay for prisons?

That’s paid out of overall revenues. This is a direct tax on people for evils they did not aid.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 6:31:18am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just obey the law do what the police tell you….BUT NOT IF THE LAW IS ONE I DON’T LIKE!!!!

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freetoken Aug 13, 2015 • 6:31:44am

A couple of weeks old now but getting a bit of coverage:

The association between intelligence and lifespan is mostly genetic

Background: Several studies in the new field of cognitive epidemiology have shown that higher intelligence predicts longer lifespan. This positive correlation might arise from socioeconomic status influencing both intelligence and health; intelligence leading to better health behaviours; and/or some shared genetic factors influencing both intelligence and health. Distinguishing among these hypotheses is crucial for medicine and public health, but can only be accomplished by studying a genetically informative sample.

Methods: We analysed data from three genetically informative samples containing information on intelligence and mortality: Sample 1, 377 pairs of male veterans from the NAS-NRC US World War II Twin Registry; Sample 2, 246 pairs of twins from the Swedish Twin Registry; and Sample 3, 784 pairs of twins from the Danish Twin Registry. The age at which intelligence was measured differed between the samples. We used three methods of genetic analysis to examine the relationship between intelligence and lifespan: we calculated the proportion of the more intelligent twins who outlived their co-twin; we regressed within-twin-pair lifespan differences on within-twin-pair intelligence differences; and we used the resulting regression coefficients to model the additive genetic covariance. We conducted a meta-analysis of the regression coefficients across the three samples.

Results: The combined (and all three individual samples) showed a small positive phenotypic correlation between intelligence and lifespan. In the combined sample observed r = .12 (95% confidence interval .06 to .18). The additive genetic covariance model supported a genetic relationship between intelligence and lifespan. In the combined sample the genetic contribution to the covariance was 95%; in the US study, 84%; in the Swedish study, 86%, and in the Danish study, 85%.

Conclusions: The finding of common genetic effects between lifespan and intelligence has important implications for public health, and for those interested in the genetics of intelligence, lifespan or inequalities in health outcomes including lifespan.

Does this mean since CCJ is a super-genius that he’ll be around for a long time??

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 6:32:30am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Taxing to pay for the costs associated with firearms is a legitimate use. How many suicides, domestic relations homicides are there each year with law-abiding owners? There’s a significant cost imposed on society even with lawful ownership.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 6:33:34am

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

That’s paid out of overall revenues. This is a direct tax on people for evils they did not aid.

People who buy alcohol, tobacco, cars, and a thousand other things are playing “My Heart Bleeds for You” on the world’s tiniest fiddle for you.

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 6:33:50am

re: #159 lawhawk

Taxing to pay for the costs associated with firearms is a legitimate use. How many suicides, domestic relations homicides are there each year with law-abiding owners? There’s a significant cost imposed on society even with lawful ownership.

Seems no different then taxing cigarettes.

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:34:55am

I'm perfectly happy with some people on the planet getting recognized with #lefthandersday, but did it have to be today?

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 13, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 6:35:35am

With CCJ making his facebook profile public and exposing his idiocy, it will only quicken his eventual demise from that social media.

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:37:48am

re: #160 Timothy Watson

People who buy alcohol, tobacco, cars, and a thousand other things are playing “My Heart Bleeds for You” on the world’s tiniest fiddle for you.

Only a good guy with a water weenie ($9.99 plus UNFAIR TAX) can stop a bad guy with a water weenie.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 13, 2015 • 6:39:53am

re: #4 The War TARDIS

Onto The Green Death.

That was the first Doctor who I ever saw. About forty years ago as I recall.

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Great White Snark Aug 13, 2015 • 6:43:15am

re: #159 lawhawk

I have different misgivings. A nickel a round is not about revenue it’s about discouragement. In small calibers (.22!) that’s a lot of money. If I proposed a tax like that on a more popular item (not a necessity but a popular item dangerous if misused) I think the regressive nature of that tax would be an issue the critics could work pretty well. Taxes on specific items are called sin taxes, alcohol and cigarettes. Another instance where taxation as a discouragement is accepted. It’s easy to point out those other items have no mention in an amendment or a recent ruling affirming them for self defense.

City level is too small a jurisdiction for gun laws. Really should be state only. Patchwork laws make one a patchwork violator unless extreme caution is used.

About wanting those with guns to train and practice, this exacerbates the cost.

GTG mornin commute.

BBL Sorry to drop and run.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 13, 2015 • 6:43:32am

re: #165 Romantic Heretic

That was the first Doctor who I ever saw. About forty years ago as I recall.

I remember John Pertwee and Tom Morton from when the series aired in the USA on PBS. Have not followed The Doctor since.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 6:44:36am

This is some dashcam footage of the Tianjin explosion. You see the first blast, then at about the 38 second mark, the second, more powerful explosion - and you can clearly see the effect the shockwave had.

…

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darthstar Aug 13, 2015 • 6:46:43am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

This is some dashcam footage of the Tianjin explosion. You see the first blast, then at about the 38 second mark, the second, more powerful explosion - and you can clearly see the effect the shockwave had.

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Video

fifty casualties my ass…

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makeitstop Aug 13, 2015 • 6:47:23am

re: #163 Dr. Matt

With CCJ making his facebook profile public and exposing his idiocy, it will only quicken his eventual demise from that social media.

I dunno. If Facebook couldn’t see fit to bounce the dude who was openly advocating killing the president, a little doxxing here and there won’t even move the needle.

Chuckles may have found himself a home.

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Doofus Aug 13, 2015 • 6:47:42am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

Maybe 2 miles away?

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 13, 2015 • 6:48:16am

re: #46 freetoken

But the EPA toxic spill proves all govt regulations are EVIL!!!!!!!

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 6:50:37am

re: #169 darthstar

fifty casualties my ass…

If you look at this pre-explosion aerial photo, you’ll see the hypocenter of the blast in the blue box.

Note the residential apartment complex about 200-odd meters away.

Yeah - 50 casualties, my ass, indeed.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 13, 2015 • 6:51:12am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

That video of the one guy inside a building by the glass doors as they collapse on him and the video cuts. That just blows my mind. I don’t see how that guy could have possibly survived. :(

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 6:51:45am

re: #171 Doofus

Maybe 2 miles away?

No, at two miles the shock wave would have taken about 10 seconds to get there. Looks like about 1/4 mile.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 13, 2015 • 6:53:04am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think the Chinese govt is trying to hide anything regarding the number of casualties. I think it’s a matter of the devastation being so bad that they just can’t get in there to try and rescue anyone that may have survived. The number will go up. Way up. :(

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 6:54:01am

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

That’s paid out of overall revenues. This is a direct tax on people for evils they did not aid.

You’re right: I’d much prefer that gun owners, and that includes me, be required to carry liability insurance on every gun they own. The ammunition tax is perfectly legal and could be used to defray the costs of policing gun-related crime and/or set up a victims’ fund. Gun owners have collectively done their best to ensure laughably easy access to firearms and ammunition. They can collectively start paying the public costs that result from the proliferation of firearms.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 6:54:54am

re: #169 darthstar

50+ dead; there’s easily 400+ casualties, if not 10 times that amount given the size of the explosions and the pressure wave knocking out glass for miles. That it occurred in a warehouse in a commercial district at night is a saving grace. Had it been during the day, there quite likely would have been a far greater death toll and casualties in the 10s of thousands.

As it is, the explosions set off numerous fires and debris flung for miles around (along with shattered glass and collapsed structures for miles in all directions.

I have to believe that the Chinese govt is doing what it can to minimize the scope - and Weibo and other social media are clearly being throttled to minimize the talk within China. The government doesn’t want people to know the true scope of the disaster.

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Jayleia Aug 13, 2015 • 6:55:10am

re: #133 Dr. Matt

Maybe I’m not as fluent in stupid as I thought I was, or I need caffeine…

What the hell was Chuckles brain-turd supposed to mean?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 6:55:18am

So say the folks who want to enslave all pregnant women==>

Abortion Is The New Slavery http://t.co/0PSWuiWKUk

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 13, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 6:56:19am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

It’s like the folks who call everything the Holocaust. That’s Holocaust denial and slavery denial.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 6:56:28am

re: #158 freetoken

A couple of weeks old now but getting a bit of coverage:

The association between intelligence and lifespan is mostly genetic

Does this mean since CCJ is a super-genius that he’ll be around for a long time??

It means you have a chance to live longer if you’re too smart to drive drunk.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 6:57:21am

re: #162 darthstar

MUST WE GIVE EVERYONE THARE ONE DAY NOW THIS IS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS RUN AMOCK!!!1

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 13, 2015 • 6:57:21am

re: #177 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Gun owners have collectively done their best to ensure laughably easy access to firearms and ammunition. They can collectively start paying the public costs that result from the proliferation of firearms.

Not all gun owners, but those who support the gun lobby.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 6:57:39am

re: #176 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t think the Chinese govt is trying to hide anything regarding the number of casualties. I think it’s a matter of the devastation being so bad that they just can’t get in there to try and rescue anyone that may have survived. The number will go up. Way up. :(

Yeah, that’s entirely plausible. I would think with something this big, it’d be hard to just sweep it under the rug. And it could be awhile before they’re able to go through the area.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 6:58:28am

Wait. What? So, Dr. Carson had no qualms about doing fetal tissue research, but now postures? Figures. #Hypocrite https://t.co/UdBAiLQVoi

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 13, 2015

Fetal tissue research. The exact thing that PP facilitated donations can help provide. Dr. Carson didn’t seem to have an issue when he was involved in a research study, but now he does when he’s a presidential candidate.

I smell the stench of rank hypocrisy. Carson knows better as a doctor the value of doing that research but he now is going after PP for engaging in the totally legal act of facilitating the donation of fetal tissue following an abortion.

These GOP extremists don’t care - they want to eliminate PP and abortion, regardless of the costs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 13, 2015 • 7:00:03am

re: #186 lawhawk

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Fetal tissue research. The exact thing that PP facilitated donations can help provide. Dr. Carson didn’t seem to have an issue when he was involved in a research study, but now he does when he’s a presidential candidate.

I smell the stench of rank hypocrisy. Carson knows better as a doctor the value of doing that research but he now is going after PP for engaging in the totally legal act of facilitating the donation of fetal tissue following an abortion.

These GOP extremists don’t care - they want to eliminate PP and abortion, regardless of the costs.

He is backpedalling by claiming it is not indispensable and that it is overrated.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 13, 2015 • 7:01:39am

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

Drone footage of the aftermath. I’m positive it’s as I’ve said. They just can’t get in there.

Holy shit.

bbc.com

In relation to the map in post 173, it looks like the warehouse or whatever totally disintegrated. And the apartment complexes have been completely gutted. But then again, I’m a guy and can’t read maps worth a crap. Anyone else?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:03:58am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not all gun owners, but those who,support the gun lobby.

Purchasing ammunition or a new firearm directly supports the gun lobby. That’s one of the reasons that I haven’t bought a new firearm in years. Even so, and even though I handload all but .22, I’m still providing some money to the gun lobby.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 13, 2015 • 7:07:53am

re: #98 darthstar

Huh?

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Had to share that with a oenophile friend of mine.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 7:08:40am

re: #188 GlutenFreeJesus

Gonna say it is near this location based on the proximity to the elevated highway, parking lots for cars, and apartments:

google.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 7:08:59am

re: #186 lawhawk

It was DONATED tissue NOT PAID for from PP!! Not babie Parts!!!!1 Tissue!!

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 7:09:05am

re: #129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Becuz the gay marriage threatens are Freedoms!!!

Normal person: how come county clerks didn’t try to deny marriage licenses to divorced couples and cohabitating couples?

because shut up

Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis has herself been divorced multiple times.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:11:12am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Wakeup People! @MSNBC @CNN @ANC @washingtonpost @WashTimes @kerrywashington @cspan LOOK at the FACTS! #p2 #Uniteblue pic.twitter.com/n6WQBRe7i5

— Freedom Fighter (@DefundMSM) August 13, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:11:25am

It’s again that “sacred”/language thing. You’re not supposed to talk about fetuses and their organs in a matter-of-factly tone. The underlying assumption is that they’re human persons, which is not true by def at least before the 21th week (after that it gets hairy). So the matter-of-factly tone makes people squeamish. Plus, of course, so is seeing the dead fetuses. (Embryos not so much, now, why would that be.)

They should hear pathologists talk about cadavers though (which were actual persons once, unlike most aborted fetuses). Or cops about the vics (that is, victims). Or the surgeons.

Yes, people who do all the “dirty” jobs that make us cringe get used to it, speak about what they do very calmly and develop their own jargon. Boo hoo.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:11:53am

re: #188 GlutenFreeJesus

Drone footage of the aftermath. I’m positive it’s as I’ve said. They just can’t get in there.

Holy shit.

bbc.com

In relation to the map in post 173, it looks like the warehouse or whatever totally disintegrated. And the apartment complexes have been completely gutted. But then again, I’m a guy and can’t read maps worth a crap. Anyone else?

The nearest apartment buildings appeared to be, in places, burned through to the side opposite the explosion. I’m afraid that numbers of the residents may not have made it out.

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 7:13:17am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Turned the military into a gay bath house? Is the person who wrote this over the age of 12?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:14:40am

What in the utter fuck

pic.twitter.com/fdiyz2KBm0

— miles reed (@milesjreed) August 13, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:16:02am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

I feel so uninformed: I thought that the Democrats hadn’t had control of the House for five of the six years mentioned in that screed.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:17:13am

re: #199 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I feel so uninformed: I thought that the Democrats hadn’t had control of the House for five of the six years mentioned in that screed.

Wingnut memes are all about feels, not facts.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:17:53am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

‘Shop?

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sagehen Aug 13, 2015 • 7:18:03am

re: #195 Nyet

They should hear pathologists talking about cadavers though (which were actual persons once, unlike most aborted fetuses). Or cops about the vics (that is, victims). Or the surgeons.

Yes, people who do all the “dirty” jobs that make us cringe get used to it, speak about what they do very calmly and develop their own jargon. Boo hoo.

ER staff use a lot of dark humor, and/or are extremely crude, when they speak to each other about their patients. They have to take a whole special class to be reminded to not sound like that when/where patients might hear them.

(“what a shift yesterday! Two crispy critters, a bumsicle, and three Darwin nominees. I wish I could euthanize the bunch of them.”)

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 7:18:35am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Impressive; not a single true statement in the bunch.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 7:20:14am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter fuck

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If you look carefully, you’ll see that the Back to School ad is on different page than the gun ad. It’s a very unfortunate juxtaposition, but that’s all it is.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:20:20am

re: #202 sagehen

ER staff use a lot of dark humor, and/or are extremely crude, when they speak to each other about their patients. They have to take a whole special class to be reminded to not sound like that when/where patients might hear them.

(“what a shift yesterday! Two crispy critters, a bumsicle, and three Darwin nominees. I wish I could euthanize the bunch of them.”)

DEFUND ER!!!

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 13, 2015 • 7:20:24am

re: #179 Jayleia

Maybe I’m not as fluent in stupid as I thought I was, or I need caffeine…

What the hell was Chuckles brain-turd supposed to mean?

He’s suggesting that “socialism” might be acceptable, if it were leavened with a race-based nationalist worldview.

You know, national socialism.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:20:30am

re: #201 Nyet

‘Shop?

I just looked at the image enlarged. It looks like “BACK TO SCHOOL” is a different page and the gun ad was placed over it.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:20:39am

re: #205 Nyet

DEFUND ER!!!

Wait, they probably would, if they could.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:21:51am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

If you look carefully, you’ll see that the Back to School ad is on different page than the gun ad. It’s a very unfortunate juxtaposition, but that’s all it is.

I do see that because the image of the guy in the dress shirt is cut off.

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Lidane Aug 13, 2015 • 7:22:46am

Carson, a hypocrite? GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson performed research on aborted fetal brain tissue http://t.co/otSRQJUk7o

— Liz Katz (@lizzykatz) August 13, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 7:22:55am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

I just looked at the image enlarged. It looks like “BACK TO SCHOOL” is a different page and the gun ad was placed over it.

The problem I see is how many people won’t figure that out and well start screaming at the gun store for something it did not do. At least some people will do that, given the number of morons on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:23:54am

re: #210 Lidane

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Not surprised at all.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:24:00am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

“Too good to be true” principle, they should try it.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:24:55am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

The problem I see is how many people won’t figure that out and well start screaming at the gun store for something it did not do. At least some people will do that, given the number of morons on Twitter.

You don’t give people enough credit. I was pissed but I gave it another look.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 7:26:19am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

You don’t give people enough credit. I was pissed but I gave it another look.

Yes, but members of the Lizard Army are smarter than the average Twitter user. ;)

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:27:22am

How Ta-Nehisi Coates built the best comment section on the internet—and why it can’t last.

With all respect, Mr. Coates, yours is not the best :P

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:27:25am

re: #213 Nyet

“Too good to be true” principle, they should try it.

If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event our side of the aisle would not be shy of contestants.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:28:20am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but members of the Lizard Army are smarter than the average Twitter user. ;)

Maybe but I’m still sans caffeine. But if I were on Twitter and someone got it wrong, I’d correct them out of principle, I may despise gun propaganda but I despise distortion too.

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Jayleia Aug 13, 2015 • 7:28:30am

re: #206 The Ghost of a Flea

I kinda thought that after I replied, but apparently my “Not even Chuckles is this vile” parameters need to be adjusted again.

Again, CCJ has left me speechless at his level of depravity

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Romantic Heretic Aug 13, 2015 • 7:28:33am

re: #166 Great White Snark

City level is too small a jurisdiction for gun laws. Really should be state only. Patchwork laws make one a patchwork violator unless extreme caution is used.

I have a book in my library, an autobiography by a guy who was a hitter for the mob in the 50s, 60s and 70s.

At the end of the book among his acknowledgements of circumstances that contributed to his career was the patchwork nature of the laws in the US. One of the ways he made money was by buying cigarettes in Virginia and smuggling them into New York. Slap fake tax labels on the packages and he had a nice revenue stream.

He also thanked the US prison system for being a better system for making criminals than any school system the mob could put together. He said, “You send a young man to jail on a marijuana charge and in five years he’ll show you twelve ways to pick every lock in existence.”

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:30:07am

re: #217 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event our side of the aisle would not be shy of contestants.

I don’t think any side would be. Anyhow relieved it’s not real.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 7:30:21am

re: #202 sagehen

ER staff use a lot of dark humor, and/or are extremely crude, when they speak to each other about their patients. They have to take a whole special class to be reminded to not sound like that when/where patients might hear them.

(“what a shift yesterday! Two crispy critters, a bumsicle, and three Darwin nominees. I wish I could euthanize the bunch of them.”)

Reminds me of an episode of the television ER: one of the nurses makes a joke about a patient’s smell (either from burns or electrocution) which makes the newbie, Carter, so sick he faints.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 7:30:31am

Can anyone find Ben Carson’s official CV? Just a few months ago it was readily accessible on google.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:32:09am

re: #223 Dr. Matt

Can anyone find Ben Carson’s official CV? Just a few months ago it was readily accessible on google.

They may be unskewing it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 7:32:22am

Alabama church hopes to lure new members with shooting range in abandoned gulch

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 7:32:41am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter fuck

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Don’t ya just love when people on our side bullshit us?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:32:48am

Wingnuts have a new conspiracy theory that EPA POISONED TEH RIVER ON PURPOSE TO STOP ALL MINING FOREVER!!!!!!!

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:35:07am

re: #223 Dr. Matt

2014 version:

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 7:35:21am

re: #224 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They may be unskewing it.

It appears so. I reviewed his publication list a few months ago; the vast majority of his publications over the last several years were “token authorships”, i.e, he was a middle author. He had few first or last authorship publication.

Quite interesting that his CV has been scrubbed from the interweb.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:35:38am

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts have a new conspiracy theory that EPA POISONED TEH RIVER ON PURPOSE TO STOP ALL MINING FOREVER!!!!!!!

Yeah that makes sense……if you’re a fucking imbecile.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 7:35:44am

re: #228 Nyet

2014 version:

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Nice. Thanks.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:35:45am

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts have a new conspiracy theory that EPA POISONED TEH RIVER ON PURPOSE TO STOP ALL MINING FOREVER!!!!!!!

Isn’t there a name for it when a person thinks that every last event in the world is part of a plot directed against that person?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 7:36:51am

re: #232 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Isn’t there a name for it when a person thinks that every last event in the world is part of a plot directed against that person?

Conservatism?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:36:55am

re: #232 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Isn’t there a name for it when a person thinks that every last event in the world is part of a plot directed against that person?

Alex Jones Syndrome?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 7:37:27am

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Alabama church hopes to lure new members with shooting range in abandoned gulch

Just the kind of church of Christ’s love I want to attend.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 7:37:31am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Alex Jones Syndrome?

That’s the one!

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 7:38:27am

re: #235 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just the kind of church of Christ’s love I want to attend.

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Better stop worrying about sinners and start worrying about their insurance company.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:38:55am

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Alabama church hopes to lure new members with shooting range in abandoned gulch

I’d rather have pancakes, Catholics got that one right but sheesh how tacky.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:39:08am

re: #235 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Just the kind of church of Christ’s love I want to attend.

/

Blessed be the double-tap.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:39:10am

re: #229 Dr. Matt

He’s retired from Hopkins, so that’s prolly why.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 13, 2015 • 7:39:13am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but members of the Lizard Army are smarter than the average Twitter user. ;)

A kindergarten pupil is smarter than the average Twitter user.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 7:39:46am

re: #222 Timothy Watson

Having spent far more time in a hospital than anyone should have to as a visitor, I’ve seen/heard nurses/staff/doctors address all manner of grim medical condition in jargon to make it through the shift.

It’s what they have to do.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:39:57am

re: #232 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Isn’t there a name for it when a person thinks that every last event in the world is part of a plot directed against that person?

Glenn Beck Pathology

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:40:02am

re: #241 Romantic Heretic

A kindergarten pupil is smarter than the average Twitter user.

And a preschooler smarter than the average Yahoo news commentator.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:40:16am

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Conservatism?

If you go far left enough, you’ll see the circle close on that issue.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:40:31am

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Glenn Beck Pathology

Actually that works better than Jones, well played.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:41:26am

re: #241 Romantic Heretic

A kindergarten pupil is smarter than the average Twitter user.

The average Twitter user is smarter than the average Youtube commenter.

The average Youtube commenter is smarter than the average Republican presidential candidate.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:41:53am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Actually that works better than Jones, well played.

This particular conspiracy originated with Alex Jones==>

Inside Job: EPA May Have Intentionally Polluted Animas River http://t.co/VLPedH6LOP #tcot #tlot #falseflag pic.twitter.com/fc3DMN2NbH

— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) August 12, 2015

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:43:29am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

This particular conspiracy originated with Alex Jones==>

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Yeah most stupid ones do. He’s a con artist. Playing victim while reeling in the dough. Good money but gangsters are more honest folk.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 7:43:30am

re: #241 Romantic Heretic

A kindergarten pupil is smarter than the average Twitter user.

Wife is away helping Daughter2 through the trauma of grandkid’s first day in kindergarten.

It’s either the beginning of of a great adventure in learning or a perfectly good little hunter-gatherer’s sentence of 12-to-life.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:43:36am

Go for Trump. It will be epic.

#BlackLivesMatter activists shut down Jeb Bush campaign event in Nevada http://t.co/Ba9a8qQopL pic.twitter.com/bk7SKXUKp4

— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 13, 2015

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 7:43:59am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

This particular conspiracy originated with Alex Jones==>

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Is there any conspiracy that doesn’t originate with Alex Jones?

Alex Jones, putting the con in conspiracy.

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 7:44:37am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

Go for Trump. It will be epic.

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Trump has a great relationship with “The Blacks.”

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:45:10am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

Finally they’re shutting down the bad guys. Not that I approve of that either, but I have some popcorn prepared.

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Varek Raith Aug 13, 2015 • 7:45:39am

Sigh.
I remember the days when a conspiracy had a purpose.
What possible benefit could come from dumping that waste in the river?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 7:46:29am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

EPA May Have Intentionally Polluted Animas River

A UFO may have knocked up my Miata last night.

Cold fusion may be possible with a tray of ice cubes and two zinc spoons.

Scarlett Johansson may drop by this afternoon for some hot monkey love.

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Varek Raith Aug 13, 2015 • 7:48:03am

re: #256 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A UFO may have knocked up my Miata last night.

Cold fusion may be possible with a tray of ice cubes and two zinc spoons.

Scarlett Johansson may drop by this afternoon for some hot monkey love.

2 works.
Tried it myself.
TAKE THAT, NOVEC!

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Great White Snark Aug 13, 2015 • 7:48:19am

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

Go for Trump. It will be epic.

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Heh, so now shutting down campaign events is a thing. “Flash mob” politics. Internet + angry base. The road to the White House just got extra speedbumps.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:48:39am

re: #255 Varek Raith

Sigh.
I remember the days when a conspiracy had a purpose.
What possible benefit could come from dumping that waste in the river?

Pinky and the Brain taking over the world again?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:48:53am

re: #255 Varek Raith

Sigh.
I remember the days when a conspiracy had a purpose.
What possible benefit could come from dumping that waste in the river?

Yeah at least Stone’s JFK had a point, kill JFK so the military industrial complex via LBJ could escalate the Vietnam War. I jest obviously but Jones’ schtick is to make every thing from a school shooting to this a CT. Surprisingly there is no CT as to why Jones is in his early 40’s but looks in his 60’s. Clearly government age advancement experiments.

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Varek Raith Aug 13, 2015 • 7:49:00am

re: #259 Nyet

Pinky and the Brain taking over the world again?

TROZ!

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 7:49:35am

re: #255 Varek Raith

Sigh.
I remember the days when a conspiracy had a purpose.
What possible benefit could come from dumping that waste in the river?

To cover up Hillary’s servers that were dumped in the river because there was a secret detente between Obama and ISIL to allow illegal aliens to cross into the US, using the yellow hued river as a landmark to follow from the air. /is that sufficiently off-the-rails nuts? Or does it need more cray-cray?

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:50:02am

The Brain/Pinky 2016!

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Varek Raith Aug 13, 2015 • 7:50:16am

re: #262 lawhawk

To cover up Hillary’s servers that were dumped in the river because there was a secret detente between Obama and ISIL to allow illegal aliens to cross into the US, using the yellow hued river as a landmark to follow from the air. /is that sufficiently off-the-rails nuts? Or does it need more cray-cray?

Hmm.
Put in a grassy knoll and a fake moon landing set an you’re gold.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:50:41am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Surprisingly there is no CT as to why Jones is in his early 40’s but looks in his 60’s. Clearly government age advancement experiments.

Meth does that.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 7:50:42am

re: #255 Varek Raith

Sigh.
I remember the days when a conspiracy had a purpose.
What possible benefit could come from dumping that waste in the river?

Can’t be using Latin phrases like “cui bono?” Someone might think we’re a college (or high school) graduate and a false-flag plant.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:51:03am

re: #263 Nyet

The Brain/Pinky 2016!

Wait, we already had that in 2008. And 2012.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 7:51:50am

When #BlackLivesMatter interrupted #JebBush, the GOP crowd shouted “White Lives Matter!” As though that was ever a question in America.

— Son of Baldwin (@SonofBaldwin) August 13, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:51:52am

re: #266 Timothy Watson

Can’t be using Latin phrases like “cui bono?” Someone might think we’re a college (or high school) graduate and a false-flag plant.

Dixi. Sapienti sat.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:51:59am

re: #265 The Vicious Babushka

Meth does that.

I know lol. He’s all sorts of fucked up.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:52:35am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

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GOP crowds always stupid no matter what.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:53:26am

No, really, the BLMM/Trump cage match will be awesome.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 7:55:48am

re: #197 Iwouldprefernotto

Turned the military into a gay bath house? Is the person who wrote this over the age of 12?

Years wise, maybe. Mentally, not even close.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 7:56:39am

General Zod has announced his run for 2016 as a GOPer.

He’s got a clear policy platform (Kneel, and let Zod take care of all you pathetic Earthlings), unlike the rest of the pathetic candidates who can’t even be bothered to put together a platform showing just how crazy they are.

General Zod knows war and defense. He will issue a scorched earth policy to anyone who doesn’t kneel.

If you think Jade Helm was something for militias to get worked up about and for GOP candidates to be “concerned” about, don’t you worry. General Zod has a plan for that too.

If you question Zod, you will die. No exceptions.

This makes for a much more efficient government. All decisions are final. No Supreme Court (that too will be dispensed with since General Zod is the final word).

Oh wait. My mistake. That would appear to be the combined platforms of Huckabee, Paul, Carson, Christie, etc. /

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sagehen Aug 13, 2015 • 7:57:08am

re: #262 lawhawk

To cover up Hillary’s servers that were dumped in the river because there was a secret detente between Obama and ISIL to allow illegal aliens to cross into the US, using the yellow hued river as a landmark to follow from the air. /is that sufficiently off-the-rails nuts? Or does it need more cray-cray?

There’s no fetal body parts in your formula.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 7:58:38am

At this moment anything with “Freedom”, “Truth”, “Patriot”, “God” and “Family” in its name raises a red flag. Used to be commies that did that.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 7:59:56am

re: #276 Nyet

At this moment anything with “Freedom”, “Truth”, “Patriot”, “God” and “Family” in its name raises a red flag. Used to be commies that did that.

Even “God”?

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 8:00:12am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

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Didn’t even have the sense to chant “all lives matter!” Because, of course, to that crowd they don’t.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:01:08am

re: #278 aagcobb

Didn’t even have the sense to chant “all lives matter!” Because, of course, to that crowd they don’t.

Well they have booed gay soldiers and chanted let him die.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:03:23am

“Pro-lifers” present Abortion Masterpiece Theatre at White House, and it is insane http://t.co/cJH0dR4noq pic.twitter.com/o8qcKUbnoG

— Wonkette (@Wonkette) August 13, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 8:04:13am

re: #258 Great White Snark

Heh, so now shutting down campaign events is a thing. “Flash mob” politics. Internet + angry base. The road to the White House just got extra speedbumps.

How long till the men open-carrying rifles and shotguns start showing up at Republican events as “security”? Because if disruptions like that happen often, that such guys will show up.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:07:21am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

I’m torn between smh and “that’s awesome!” (the latter, because I love so-bad-it’s-good weirdness).

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:07:26am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

How long till the men open-carrying rifles and shotguns start showing up at Republican events as “security”? Because if disruptions like that happen often, that such guys will show up.

Back in 2009, the Virginia GOP had to buy additional liability insurance so participants could bring their guns into the Richmond Coliseum.

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Teukka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:07:57am

Off-topic, but update in the IKEA case:

The elder suspect (36-year old) has woken up at the ICU, and apparently is taking responsibility for his actions (i.e. confessed). The district court approved the prosecutors request for remand for two counts of murder.
The younger suspect has been released, as the district court denied the prosecutors request for remand. He has consistently denied having anything to do with the murders, was uninjured when apprehended and had no blood spatter on him.

More on my page on the topic (Shameless Plug).

Cue wingnut cries of cover up in 10… 9… 8… 7…

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 8:08:32am

re: #283 Timothy Watson

Back in 2009, the Virginia GOP had to buy additional liability insurance so participants could bring their guns into the Richmond Coliseum.

That’s not an issue for Trump, who could afford it.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:09:11am

re: #283 Timothy Watson

Back in 2009, the Virginia GOP had to buy additional liability insurance so participants could bring their guns into the Richmond Coliseum.

Nomination convention right?

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:09:21am

Apparently I am not the only “asshole” and “troll” who thinks that the BLM movement has been destructive towards their ultimate goals this week. The former head of the Congressional Black Congress is also a troll then.

thehill.com

I think there are probably valid arguments on both sides but those commenters who instantly hurling insults and name-calling because they disagree with something should probably re-evaluate themselves. It appears that this is a lively debate everywhere but here where disparate points of view from people who share a common goal don’t appear to be allowed.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:09:23am

re: #282 Nyet

I’m torn between smh and “that’s awesome!” (the latter, because I love weirdness).

LOL I remember when leftists used to perform “street theater” at anti-Vietnam-war rallies during the ‘60’s. Although back then it was LBJ stabbing a Vietnamese baby.

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Khal Wimpo Aug 13, 2015 • 8:10:26am

re: #274 lawhawk

This makes for a much more efficient government. All decisions are final. No Supreme Court (that too will be dispensed with since General Zod is the final word).

Oh wait. My mistake. That would appear to be the combined platforms of Huckabee, Paul, Carson, Christie, etc. /

You’ve hit upon something here. The RWNJs all screech constantly about how inefficient De Gubbermint is, and that’s why they hate it. But they want it to kill Muslims, Mexicans, Africans and anyone else who is swarthy and Not Them. Uppity ladies who get abortions also. And they don’t want any of their decisions questioned, ever (as long as those decisions hurt people they don’t like).

The Theocratic Dominionist faction is fundamentally at odds with the “I gots muh guns so’s nobody can tell me what to do on MY land!” crypto-anarchists.

If Zod carried a bible, he would clean up on the faux-Christian TV grift shows like the 700 Club and Hour of Power.

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 8:10:57am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

How long till the men open-carrying rifles and shotguns start showing up at Republican events as “security”? Because if disruptions like that happen often, that such guys will show up.

I imagine the Secret Service may have a teensy little problem with that.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:11:29am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Nomination convention right?

Yep, sorry, forgot to add that part.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:12:43am

re: #287 Csarneson

I think that pile-on was bad.

But I did notice some tropes from you that are usually used by various trolls, like, “MLK wouldn’t have approved”. It does not mean you are a troll, but people are jumpy at the moment.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 8:12:53am

re: #288 The Vicious Babushka

LOL I remember when leftists used to perform “street theater” at anti-Vietnam-war rallies during the ‘60’s. Although back then it was LBJ stabbing a Vietnamese baby.

Tell the wingnuts to get back to us when they levitate The Pentagon.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:12:54am

re: #291 Timothy Watson

Yep, sorry, forgot to add that part.

Yeah it’s cool. To clarify for our non Virginians, our state GOP will use a nominating convention if they feel a primary won’t cut it.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 8:13:22am

re: #290 aagcobb

I imagine the Secret Service may have a teensy little problem with that.

They aren’t involved yet. They don’t get involved until there’s a nominee, except for Hillary Clinton, due to her being a former first lady. Which is why there will be no pictures of any BLM activists getting in Mrs. Clinton’s face, because they’d get tackled by the Secret Service.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:13:28am

re: #287 Csarneson

Apparently I am not the only “asshole” and “troll” who thinks that the BLM movement has been destructive towards their ultimate goals this week. The former head of the Congressional Black Congress is also a troll then.

I don’t think you’re an “asshole” and/or a”troll”. While I agree with that the agitator in Seattle was not useful calling the citizens of Seattle “white supremacists”, I still think the BLM on the whole is important and vital.

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Khal Wimpo Aug 13, 2015 • 8:15:18am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

How long till the men open-carrying rifles and shotguns start showing up at Republican events as “security”? Because if disruptions like that happen often, that such guys will show up.

I’ve long wondered about this very thing. One of the more extreme candidates, prone to hysteria (Cruz, although it could be said of pretty much anybody on that stage), afraid of losing out, whips up his followers into a frenzy, alleging Dark Conspiracies by Bush/Rubio/Kasich to deny him his due and take away their FREEDOMS!!

Whipped into hysteria by the echo chamber, hate radio, etc., a bunch of guys with guns shows up at the next rally to Stand Their Ground. Met by a bunch of other guys with guns. Words are passed. Insults. Yelling. Shoving. A guy falls to the ground, knocking an old cranky delusional Son Of The Confederacy off his scooter, and …

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 8:15:35am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t involved yet. They don’t get involved until there’s a nominee, except for Hillary Clinton, due to her being a former first lady. Which is why there will be no pictures of any BLM activists getting in Mrs. Clinton’s face, because they’d get tackled by the Secret Service.

Are you sure? Thinking back on George Wallace, I would think the Secret Service would get involved long before the Party Conventions.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:16:35am

re: #298 aagcobb

Are you sure? Thinking back on George Wallace, I would think the Secret Service would get involved long before the Party Conventions.

I think they do but more closer or candidates can accept SS protection if they so choose.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 8:16:50am

re: #298 aagcobb

Are you sure? Thinking back on George Wallace, I would think the Secret Service would get involved long before the Party Conventions.

Yes, I’m pretty sure.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:17:43am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s cool. To clarify for our non Virginians, our state GOP will use a nominating convention if they feel a primary won’t cut it.

Yeah, it helps them nominate the craziest candidates, which usually ends up screwing them over. :)

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Dark_Falcon Aug 13, 2015 • 8:17:44am

And I’m also outta here! BBT

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:18:05am

Thought I read recently that Sanders could have SS protection but declined it.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:18:51am

re: #301 Timothy Watson

Yeah, it helps them nominate the craziest candidates, which usually ends up screwing them over. :)

Yep see Jackson, E.W, Cuccinelli, Ken.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:19:17am

As for BLM… I support the principle. Not necessarily the movement as it is. Same thing as with OWS.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 13, 2015 • 8:19:22am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

If you look at this pre-explosion aerial photo, you’ll see the hypocenter of the blast in the blue box.

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Note the residential apartment complex about 200-odd meters away.

Yeah - 50 casualties, my ass, indeed.

Thanks for posting this. It clarifies things quite a bit. The damage radius is huge. It’s an interesting comparison to images of the Texas City explosion. If anything this appears to be worse. Those apartments are closer than the demolished cars. Either the units were vacant or there are thousands of casualties.

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sagehen Aug 13, 2015 • 8:19:32am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

They aren’t involved yet. They don’t get involved until there’s a nominee, except for Hillary Clinton, due to her being a former first lady. Which is why there will be no pictures of any BLM activists getting in Mrs. Clinton’s face, because they’d get tackled by the Secret Service.

Obama got Secret Service protection in mid-2007, well before the first primary, due to a multitude of “specific, credible threats.” It’s the earliest any candidate ever got such protection.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:20:22am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Thought I read recently that Sanders could have SS protection but declined it.

CANDIDATE PROTECTION

Secret Service Protection of Presidential Candidates

In regard to presidential campaign, the Secret Service is authorized by law (18 United States Code § 3056) to protect:

Major presidential and vice presidential candidates and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election. As defined in statute, the term “major presidential and vice presidential candidates” means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee.

The Secret Service has no role in determining who is to be considered a major candidate. The Secretary of the Homeland Security determines who qualifies as a major candidate and when such protection should commence under the authority of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056. This determination is made in consultation with an advisory committee comprised of the following individuals:

Speaker of the House
House Minority Whip
Senate Majority Leader
Senate Minority Leader
One additional member chosen by the committee

From: secretservice.gov

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:21:39am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

CANDIDATE PROTECTION

The Secret Service has no role in determining who is to be considered a major candidate. The Secretary of the Homeland Security determines who qualifies as a major candidate and when such protection should commence under the authority of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056. This determination is made in consultation with an advisory committee comprised of the following individuals:

Thanks.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 8:22:46am

re: #306 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks for posting this. It clarifies things quite a bit. The damage radius is huge. It’s an interesting comparison to images of the Texas City explosion. If anything this appears to be worse. Those apartments are closer than the demolished cars. Either the units were vacant or there are thousands of casualties.

Personally, I strongly hope those apartments were vacant, because like you said, if not, the casualty count is going to be very high.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 8:27:02am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

This particular conspiracy originated with Alex Jones==>

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I think the energy companies did it to accuse the EPA of doing it.

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:27:43am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

That’s not an issue for Trump, who could afford it.

Can he? Really.

The reason I ask, the other night I heard a guy that knows Trump and worked with him on a book project said he understood that if Trump had to get some bucks up today for a large project, he might be able to gather up 3/4 of a million or so in ready cash.

It sounds like Trump’s worth is really tied in to buildings, projects, and other “stuff” and while all worth a lot of money, is it what that stuff is valued at not what he could actually get if he sold everything?

I’m not saying he isn’t rich, just that it has not been clear as to how rich he really is. And, we all seem to take for granted that he can buy his way into anything, afford everything, etc. when he might not have the ready cash to do all everyone seems to think he can do.

And, isn’t he now asking for donations? I thought I saw something where he is looking to build a war chest and looking for donations.

I guess all these suppositions and questions are a normal part pf a character like TRUMP® when he talks so much trash in such a short time.

Who really is Donald Trump. I don’t think we really know.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:28:14am

re: #292 Nyet

I don’t think you have to be black to respect, admire, and study the techniques of MLK. I don’t ever hear people insulting non-Chinese people who study the techniques of Sun-Tzu. You don’t have to be asian to appreciate Gandhi. MLK undoubtedly was filled with rage but what made him truly special is that he didn’t give in to it. His tactics were incredibly impressive and courageous in a far more difficult time. It is far easier to resort to violence and abusive tactics than it is to put peacefull pressure.

re: #296 Dr. Matt

I completely agree that the BLM movement is vital. That is exactly why it is so critical that they don’t marginalize themselves and ruin it. Occupy Wall Street ultimately has become a joke because they devolved. I support the concept behind their rage and calls for change but the group basically turned into an urban hippie commune.

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bratwurst Aug 13, 2015 • 8:30:20am

Let’s check in with a former lizard on the Jimmy Carter news:

A cancer has cancer. Oops, I mean, Jimmy Carter has cancer. Same diff. #tcot #gop #JimmyCarter #ACancerwithCancer

— Debbie Schlussel (@DebbieSchlussel) August 12, 2015

Care to wager she is not the only former lizard who has posted something along the lines somewhere on the internets?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:32:17am

re: #314 bratwurst

Let’s check in with a former lizard on the Jimmy Carter news:

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Care to wager she is not the only former lizard who has posted something along the lines somewhere on the internets?

She sounds nice.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 8:32:35am

re: #314 bratwurst

Cancer is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. No way. No how.

There’s a certain amount of cruelty in that statement of hers.

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aagcobb Aug 13, 2015 • 8:32:54am

re: #312 ObserverArt

Can he? Really.

The reason I ask, the other night I heard a guy that knows Trump and worked with him on a book project said he understood that if Trump had to get some bucks up today for a large project, he might be able to gather up 3/4 of a million or so in ready cash.

It sounds like Trump’s worth is really tied in to buildings, projects, and other “stuff” and while all worth a lot of money, is it what that stuff is valued at not what he could actually get if he sold everything?

I’m not saying he isn’t rich, just that it has not been clear as to how rich he really is. And, we all seem to take for granted that he can buy his way into anything, afford everything, etc. when he might not have the ready cash to do all everyone seems to think he can do.

And, isn’t he now asking for donations? I thought I saw something where he is looking to build a war chest and looking for donations.

I guess all these suppositions and questions are a normal part pf a character like TRUMP(r) when he talks so much trash in such a short time.

Who really is Donald Trump. I don’t think we really know.

According to Trump’s financial disclosure form, he has bank accounts with millions of dollars in cash in them.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:34:16am

re: #316 lawhawk

Cancer is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. No way. No how.

There’s a certain amount of cruelty in that statement of hers.

Absolutely. Pretty much every person has a loved one die from cancer. Cancer doesn’t care who you voted for or what you believe. You’d think if Debbie really wanted to prove how conservatives are apparently morally superior to liberals like they so claim that she show some decency to President Carter and his family during this time. But nope.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:35:21am

re: #313 Csarneson

Here’s the thing, “MLK wouldn’t have” is an established meme by now. Mostly used by either clueless or not so good folks. I’m NOT implying you’re one of those, it’s a statistical thing and there will always be exceptions. But it did raise a small red flag. Some of the other small things you said also did (spec. about LGF). I guess some folks noticed it too.

I did think some of the responses to you were out of bounds.

That said, it can be a tough room. If you will always bear a grudge about that, well, no constructive conversation will happen in the future. So don’t sulk about that, brush that off and move on ;)

…

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 8:36:16am

Yeesh, this is bad:

Rescuers now are trying to remove all the 700 tons of sodium cyanide, which is reported to be stored in the warehouse where the blasts happened in Tianjin. 15% hydrogen peroxide had been prepared, according to The Beijing News.

These 700 tons of deadly toxics are stored in wooden boxes or iron barrels, 50 kilograms per unit, in the containers.

Sodium cyanide has now been detected in the sewage and leakage has been confirmed, according to The Beijing News.

en.people.cn

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:36:32am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. Pretty much every person has a loved one die from cancer. Cancer doesn’t care who you voted for or what you believe. You’d think if Debbie really wanted to prove how conservatives are apparently morally superior to liberals like they so claim that she show some decency to President Carter and his family during this time. But nope.

Debbie’s father passed away from pancreatic cancer. You would think she’d understand how devastating that is.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:36:45am

re: #313 Csarneson

I don’t think you have to be black to respect, admire, and study the techniques of MLK. I don’t ever hear people insulting non-Chinese people who study the techniques of Sun-Tzu. You don’t have to be asian to appreciate Gandhi. MLK undoubtedly was filled with rage but what made him truly special is that he didn’t give in to it. His tactics were incredibly impressive and courageous in a far more difficult time. It is far easier to resort to violence and abusive tactics than it is to put peacefull pressure.

I completely agree that the BLM movement is vital. That is exactly why it is so critical that they don’t marginalize themselves and ruin it. Occupy Wall Street ultimately has become a joke because they devolved. I support the concept behind their rage and calls for change but the group basically turned into an urban hippie commune.

I don’t think he’s saying you have to be black to understand or appreciate MLK but I think it’s fair to have a problem with using MLK to tell black people not to do a certain thing or act a certain way. I am sorry, I never called you an asshole or a troll but that tactic reeks to me of condescension. Frankly not everyone can be as strong as MLK was and I’ll also point out that most of these activists are a lot younger than MLK was.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:38:35am

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

Debbie’s father passed away from pancreatic cancer. You would think she’d understand how devastating that is.

Debbie’s completely batshit crazy, so probably not.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:38:59am

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

Debbie’s father passed away from pancreatic cancer. You would think she’d understand how devastating that is.

Damn, that’s one of the worst ways to go since unlike say something liver cancer, a transplant won’t work. I mean there are times that you just have to shut up about politics.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:39:14am

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

MORE: Hours after a judge's order, a Kentucky clerk turned away a gay couple seeking a marriage license: http://t.co/VfleqiyUjP

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 13, 2015

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 8:39:35am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

Yeesh, this is bad:

en.people.cn

ITZ ALL THEM COMMIE REGALATIONZ!! FREE MARKET!!!

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:40:15am

re: #323 Timothy Watson

Debbie’s completely batshit crazy, so probably not.

You do have to think she did at least see how tough the sickness was on her family. Empathy, it’s part of what makes us human. She doesn’t have to like President Carter but I think she owes it to Mrs. Carter, their kids, and grandkids the same sympathy that many gave her and hers when her father was sick.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:41:13am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

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Fire her and replace her with someone who actually will do their job. It’s not her job to tell people they can’t get married when the law is the law.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:41:39am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

[Embedded content]

A judge needs to grow some balls and throw her ass in jail fro contempt.

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:41:55am

re: #319 Nyet

That said, it can be a tough room. If you will always bear a grudge about that, well, no constructive conversation will happen in the future. So don’t sulk about that, brush that off and move on ;)

Really?

: )

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 8:42:12am

re: #314 bratwurst

Let’s check in with a former lizard on the Jimmy Carter news:

Care to wager she is not the only former lizard who has posted something along the lines somewhere on the internets?

Stay classy…

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 8:42:20am

re: #312 ObserverArt

Trump values his brand at $3 billion. I don’t know how much he thinks good will is worth.

Neither one would get you a dollar at a pawn shop.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:42:49am

re: #330 ObserverArt

Really?

: )

Well, what do you think?

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 8:43:22am

re: #314 bratwurst

That is a really vile statement from another GOP talking mouth.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:43:27am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

She’s, among other things, openly advocated murdering 1.8 billion Muslims, I think she might be lacking in the empathy.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 8:43:28am

re: #329 Timothy Watson

Unfortunately she will be fired and then make huge $$$ on the Right Wing Nuts speakers tour. Isn’t that the new model for right wing success?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:43:58am

re: #335 Timothy Watson

She’s, among other things, openly advocated murdering 1.8 billion Muslims, I think she might be lacking in the empathy.

Yeah I guess I am not familiar enough with her. I have heard of her but don’t know much about her resume.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:44:26am

re: #335 Timothy Watson

She’s, among other things, openly advocated murdering 1.8 billion Muslims, I think she might be lacking in the empathy.

She’s in the Chuck C. Johnson situation, where she is loathed by most fellow wingnuts because she attacked a bunch of them too.

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:44:43am

re: #317 aagcobb

According to Trump’s financial disclosure form, he has bank accounts with millions of dollars in cash in them.

I did not check that disclosure out closely. Thanks for the image/info. As I said, I was going on comments from someone else. There is so much speculation about Trump and his own nature of saying everything is “Yoooge” makes facts hard to gather and understand.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:44:49am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

Yeah I guess I am not familiar enough with her. I have heard of her but don’t know much about her resume.

She is a cheap, local Pamela Geller wannabee.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 8:45:02am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

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I hope that couple civil rights suit them into oblivion.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:45:28am

re: #336 Csarneson

Unfortunately she will be fired and then make huge $$$ on the Right Wing Nuts speakers tour. Isn’t that the new model for right wing success?

Close, you get fired and then you set up a GoFundMe and wingnuts from coast to coast fund you. Kind of like what happens if you’re a divorced couple who runs a pizzeria and you promise to discriminate against gay people and people predictably call you out on your bullshit.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:46:06am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

She is a cheap, local Pamela Geller wannabee.

That’s right, she’s from Michigan like you are. Didn’t know she posted here.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 8:46:24am

re: #314 bratwurst

Let’s check in with a former lizard on the Jimmy Carter news:

Care to wager she is not the only former lizard who has posted something along the lines somewhere on the internets?

#ProLife

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 8:47:58am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

That’s right, she’s from Michigan like you are. Didn’t know she posted here.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:50:19am

Well hoping removing these two search bars will end my problems with Chrome crashing. Fingers crossed.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:50:57am

re: #314 bratwurst

Let’s check in with a former lizard on the Jimmy Carter news:

Care to wager she is not the only former lizard who has posted something along the lines somewhere on the internets?

But remember, it’s the Left that is trying to divide America. She’s a disgusting asshole.

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 8:51:53am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

She sounds nice.

Her whole timeline is filled with posts by assholes as big as she is.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 8:52:43am

re: #336 Csarneson

Unfortunately she will be fired and then make huge $$$ on the Right Wing Nuts speakers tour. Isn’t that the new model for right wing success?

It’s an elected position, AFAIK, so it’s not necessarily within the purview of any elected KY officials to fire her.

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:53:31am

re: #333 Nyet

Well, what do you think?

Oh yeah…it can be tough for sure. Maybe sometimes a bit too tough. But that is just my opinion, as you already know based on Justanotherhuman and her statements on transsexuals.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 8:53:35am

Huckabee just told voters that if they don’t vote for him in February, then stay home.

Paraphrasing, but here’s the gist:

“I need your vote. I don’t care how cold it is, please vote for me. If for some crazy reason you’re not going to vote for me, stay home and stay warm.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 13, 2015 • 8:53:55am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

Yeesh, this is bad:

en.people.cn

I cross-referenced the BBC aerial photo (via Google) with the baidu.com map I got when I searched on the Chinese name of the company that owned the warehouse (Ruihai Logistics, 天津瑞海国际物流). Here is what I got.

Site of Tianjin explosion

Here’s the Google maps link if you want to explore further. google.com

The Beeb for some reason rotated their map away from a N-S alignment.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 8:55:46am

re: #348 Skip Intro

Her whole timeline is filled with posts by assholes as big as she is.

I’m sure of it. People like that are why I’m not on Twitter. I do Instagram and Facebook but not Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 13, 2015 • 8:57:21am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

[Embedded content]

Why haven’t state troopers been sent to arrest this crazy person and allow the state’s business to resume?
I think we know why.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 8:57:32am

re: #350 ObserverArt

Oh yeah…it can be tough for sure. Maybe sometimes a bit too tough. But that is just my opinion, as you already know based on Justanotherhuman and her statements on transsexuals.

A spur of the moment “fuck you” and a bunch of downdings in response to calling parents supporting their trans children “child abuse” is not my definition of “too tough”, but opinions can differ on that score. The treatment of Csarneson was certainly tougher, based on much more moderate statements. But well, life goes on.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 8:57:49am

Jimmy Carter, a Navy Vet and a former XO of a Nuclear submarine, defined what it meant to be an actual Christian President. He actually cared about people and our well-being.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 8:59:31am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Fire her and replace her with someone who actually will do their job. It’s not her job to tell people they can’t get married when the law is the law.

She can’t be fired, she’s an elected official.
But the judge sure can throw her butt in jail for contempt of court.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:00:57am

re: #351 Jenner7

Huckabee just told voters that if they don’t vote for him in February, then stay home.

Paraphrasing, but here’s the gist:

“I need your vote. I don’t care how cold it is, please vote for me. If for some crazy reason you’re not going to vote for me, stay home and stay warm.”

I’ll just bring my flask and vote against you Mike.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:01:30am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

She can’t be fired, she’s an elected official.
But the judge sure can throw her butt in jail for contempt of court.

Ah ok. My bad.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 9:01:36am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

She can’t be fired, she’s an elected official.
But the judge sure can throw her butt in jail for contempt of court.

A martyr for bigotry, willing to sacrifice her freedom to take freedom from others!

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:02:31am

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

A martyr for bigotry, willing to sacrifice her freedom to take freedom from others!

She’s just like MLK.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:04:29am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

You do have to think she did at least see how tough the sickness was on her family. Empathy, it’s part of what makes us human. She doesn’t have to like President Carter but I think she owes it to Mrs. Carter, their kids, and grandkids the same sympathy that many gave her and hers when her father was sick.

Scanned one of the larger Freep threads on Carter last night. Of those who could be classified, the decent comments ran about 4:1 over the hateful. Refreshing surprise.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 9:04:29am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

She can’t be fired, she’s an elected official.
But the judge sure can throw her butt in jail for contempt of court.

She is an elected official which means that she swore an oath to fulfill her office. She’s blatantly and apologetically broken that oath. It’s hard to believe that getting her out of the way is much more than a procedural matter.

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 9:04:44am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Her #ACancerwithCancer tag is getting no traction at all. I guess even some hate filled wingnuts have a limit, unlike Debbie.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:05:53am

Police: Man injures seven officers during fracas

A man was in court Tuesday after an alleged overnight brawl with police.

Officials said the assault started on the street and continued later as the man was booked at the station.

Seven officers were reportedly injured. Two were hospitalized and are expected to recover.

“The defendant rolled down the window and said ‘I know why you stopped me.’ The defendant then made reference to the events in Ferguson, Missouri,” according to the criminal complaint.

Joseph Parker, 34, in a wild rant, threatened to kill police, then pounced, police said. He punched 57-year-old Lt. Jeremian Goodwin, knocking him out.

kctv5.com

I can’t understand how this dude is still alive and allowed to go free on bail. Can someone help me?

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 9:06:18am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

You’ve got a cast iron stomach to undertake such a mission. I am surprised by the results, though. I doubt that Limbaugh will show any such restraint though.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:06:21am

re: #350 ObserverArt

BTW, while we are on that topic, you might (or not) be interested in googling about the Ophelia Benson debacle at Freethought blogs. Now that was tough treatment, and OB never came close to saying things JAH did, even if she comes from the similar “old school feminist” background.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 9:06:54am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

She’s just like MLK.

A hero, like all those Confederate politicians willing to sacrifice others’ lives to ensure that only the right people have rights!

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:08:19am

re: #364 Skip Intro

Her #ACancerwithCancer tag is getting no traction at all. I guess even some hate filled wingnuts have a limit, unlike Debbie.

Day is young but I hope so.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 9:08:55am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Well played. I probably deserved that!

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:08:57am

re: #365 Jenner7

Police: Man injures seven officers during fracas

kctv5.com

I can’t understand how this dude is still alive and allowed to go free on bail. Can someone help me?

They liked his ink.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:09:11am

And if someone on the Left said something disparaging about Tony Snow’s or Laura Ingraham’s cancer diagnoses, the MSM would have shit themselves.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:10:15am

Jimmy Carter is someone who southern Christian conservatives should rever- a patriot, devout Christian, married to the same lady for I think 70 years, but he’s hated.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:10:20am

re: #364 Skip Intro

Her #ACancerwithCancer tag is getting no traction at all. I guess even some hate filled wingnuts have a limit, unlike Debbie.

Like that most recent anti-PP video, the sixth one or whatever.

Hey hear is are new BREAKING video of PP selling baby body parts for MONEY!!!!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Aug 13, 2015 • 9:10:25am

re: #365 Jenner7

Police: Man injures seven officers during fracas

kctv5.com

I can’t understand how this dude is still alive and allowed to go free on bail. Can someone help me?

Something to do with the hue of his skin? Ya know, white dude.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:11:10am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Carter is someone who southern Christian conservatives should rever- a patriot, devout Christian, married to the same lady for I think 70 years, but he’s hated.

Wrong political party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:11:33am

re: #363 Higgs Boson’s Mate

She is an elected official which means that she swore an oath to fulfill her office. She’s blatantly and apologetically broken that oath. It’s hard to believe that getting her out of the way is much more than a procedural matter.

Nope. We have elected officials here in Kentucky who have been convicted of felonies who could not be fired, although they usually resigned under pressure.
It’s nuts.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:12:04am

re: #364 Skip Intro

Her #ACancerwithCancer tag is getting no traction at all. I guess even some hate filled wingnuts have a limit, unlike Debbie.

I’m thinking it has less to do with latter and more to do with the fact that Debbie Schlussel is practically a nobody. If Ben Shapiro tweeted that hashtag, my bet would be that the reaction would be much different.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:12:44am

re: #378 Dr. Matt

I’m thinking it has less to do with latter and more to do with the fact that Debbie Schlussel is practically a nobody. If Ben Shapiro tweeted that hashtag, my bet would be that the reaction would be much different.

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM???????

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:13:00am

re: #367 Nyet

BTW, while we are on that topic, you might (or not) be interested in googling about the Ophelia Benson debacle at Freethought blogs. Now that was tough treatment, and OB never came close to saying things JAH did, even if she comes from the similar “old school feminist” background.

I’ll check that out. By the way…I don’t really want to relive the JAH experience. I made my statements then based on what I knew at that time. I was just making light of your “tough room” comment. Live and learn.

Back later…got stuff to do. I’m trying to watch some tutorials and need to concentrate on some of the steps.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:13:17am

re: #370 Csarneson

Well played. I probably deserved that!

Actually I wasn’t thinking of you. More so those who claim MLK would have condoned anti gay discrimination.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:13:21am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Carter is someone who southern Christian conservatives should rever- a patriot, devout Christian, married to the same lady for I think 70 years, but he’s hated.

He brokered a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt HURR HURR HE HATES JEWS & ISRAEL!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:13:31am

re: #365 Jenner7

Police: Man injures seven officers during fracas

kctv5.com

I can’t understand how this dude is still alive and allowed to go free on bail. Can someone help me?

Mental issues while white:

A brother and friend avoiding reporters at court worried drugs or medication are to blame for the assault.

“His medication might be doing some real bad things to him, and that’s what I’m concerned about,” Fitzgerald said.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:14:16am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

He brokered a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt HURR HURR HE HATES JEWS & ISRAEL!!!!!!!!

I know sigh.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 13, 2015 • 9:14:33am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

Yeesh, this is bad:

en.people.cn

Sodium cyanide? High-test peroxide?

Sodium cyanide is obviously very lethal but it is not explosive. I wonder if this is a mis-translation? As for hydrogen peroxide, it is definitely and lethally explosive at high concentrations.

What the hell was going on there?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:15:39am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mental issues while white:

Meanwhile a black lady with mental issues with a knife was killed here. Amazing how cops feel endangered when skin color is different.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:16:17am

El Oh El. hahahahahahaah

Man sends angry Facebook conservatives into a full-blown rage by posing as Target

Click the link to see so much more…..good stuff.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 9:16:39am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Carter had the temerity to suggest that the nation would be better off if we reduced our reliance on imported fossil fuels. That resulted in a campaign to so thoroughly blacken his name that no future pol would so much as think about upsetting Big Oil’s apple cart. And it worked.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:17:38am

re: #385 Shiplord Kirel

Sodium cyanide? High-test peroxide?

Sodium cyanide is obviously very lethal but it is not explosive. I wonder if this is a mis-translation? As for hydrogen peroxide, it is definitely and lethally explosive at high concentrations.

What the hell was going on there?

Large volumes of cyanide are used in metal plating and gold refining. The production end of our munitions installation used it by the hundreds of pounds, stored dry in 55 gallon drums.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 9:17:38am

re: #385 Shiplord Kirel

Sodium cyanide? High-test peroxide?

Sodium cyanide is obviously very lethal but it is not explosive. I wonder if this is a mis-translation? As for hydrogen peroxide, it is definitely and lethally explosive at high concentrations.

What the hell was going on there?

Don’t know if it was a mistranslation.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:18:04am

re: #388 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Jimmy Carter had the temerity to suggest that the nation would be better off if we reduced our reliance on imported fossil fuels. That resulted in a campaign to so thoroughly blacken his name that no future pol would so much as think about upsetting Big Oil’s apple cart. And it worked.

Terrible.//

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:18:41am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Actually I wasn’t thinking of you. More so those who claim MLK would have condoned anti gay discrimination.

MLK had some views on the issue that were typical for that era, but he doesn’t strike me as having been focused on those social conservative issues and I don’t think he would have a problem evolving on the issue (like Obama, etc.).

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Slap Aug 13, 2015 • 9:18:42am

re: #316 lawhawk

Agree completely. Lost my mom and my favorite aunt to it, and I’ve got at least another year to go before being declared “cancer-free”. (But so far, so good!)

Now, bedbugs are another matter. I would gleefully wish bedbugs upon an enemy and feel no guilt.

Never claimed to be a saint!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:19:45am

Colorado court rules Baker can't cite religious beliefs in refusing to make cakes for gay weddings: http://t.co/OUV6Syxb4R

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 13, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:20:27am

BWAHAHAA!

“These weren’t just ordinary secrets found in Clinton’s private server, but some of the most classified material…” http://t.co/wVB0NDM5Kc

— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 13, 2015

#TBT: #ScottWalker had his own email controversy http://t.co/gwlXGOhTZj #EmailGate #Walker16 pic.twitter.com/nI1kU0dDbu

— KHARY PENEBAKER (@kharyp) August 13, 2015

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:20:29am

re: #392 Nyet

MLK had some views on the issue that were typical for that era, but he doesn’t strike me as having been focused on those social conservative issues and I don’t think he would have a problem evolving on the issue (like Obama, etc.).

Well the thing is we know for a fact that he defended Bayard Rustin when many in the movement wanted to get rid of him because he was gay and a socialist. I am normally loathe to attribute modern values to historical figures but the Rustin example and his widow and children’s support of the LGBT community leads me to believe that he would have supported the gay community.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:20:33am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

Shiria Law!!!

Pussification of Amercia!!!!1

I consider it a considerable life accomplishment that I don’t have to encounter these people on a regular basis.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:20:54am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA!

[Embedded content]

Koch sucker say what.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 9:21:06am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

What you are saying is true but it goes well beyond that. Police can always play the “threatening” card because Garner and Mike Brown types had committed minor crimes. The stuff that is more upsetting to me (even though there was no death involved) are the incidents like this one:

theatlantic.com

There is no possible way of explaining or excusing this scenario. Unfortunately this one didn’t get the notoriety that the Garner situation did.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:21:30am

re: #397 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Shiria Law!!!

Pussification of Amercia!!!!1

I consider it a considerable life accomplishment that I don’t have to encounter these people on a regular basis.

Sharia Law at Target…..seriously the funniest thing I’ve read in weeks.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:21:37am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA!

ORDINARY SECRETS!!!!!

Another great potential band name.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:21:50am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This is the correct ruling. The baker is providing a secular good- cake not a religious good.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:22:05am

re: #400 Dr. Matt

Sharia Law at Target…..seriously the funniest thing I’ve read in weeks.

Didn’t realize the Islams were all about gender bending.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:22:23am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

There were plenty of white unarmed people with mental issues killed by the police. Being black is a big factor. Being mentally ill is no less significant. A huge proportion of all police victims are mentally ill.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:23:02am

re: #399 Csarneson

What you are saying is true but it goes well beyond that. Police can always play the “threatening” card because Garner and Mike Brown types had committed minor crimes. The stuff that is more upsetting to me (even though there was no death involved) are the incidents like this one:

theatlantic.com

There is no possible way of explaining or excusing this scenario. Unfortunately this one didn’t get the notoriety that the Garner situation did.

We actually did discuss the St. Paul incident here. I saw the video. Horrifying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:23:30am

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

Debbie’s father passed away from pancreatic cancer. You would think she’d understand how devastating that is.

Jimmy Carter’s two sisters, his brother and parents all died of pancreatic cancer.
As a result, Carter gets tested twice a year for it.
Odds are that even though the cancer was discovered in his liver during surgery, it may well have started in his pancreas.

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EmmaAnne Aug 13, 2015 • 9:23:52am

re: #287 Csarneson

Look, I appreciate that you have the guts to come back and try again. I haven’t yelled at you or called you any names. But you are being condescending and an embarrassment to white liberals. Do you really not see the difference between black activists policing their own movement and some clueless white kid telling black people how to behave so he isn’t discomfited by them?

And you are clueless. All civil rights movements that go anywhere have a civil, sensible branch and a scary, loud, often violent branch. MLK seemed sensible and worth dealing with because the Black Panthers and Malcolm X were around to remind people what scary looked like. Same with gay rights. Same with woman suffrage. Same with workers rights. Polite negotiation only works when there is a reminder that ignoring the issue will have nasty, scary consequences.

Please do some reading and thinking. You can figure this stuff out and be smarter. Right now you are part of the problem.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 9:25:05am

re: #392 Nyet

MLK had some views on the issue that were typical for that era, but he doesn’t strike me as having been focused on those social conservative issues and I don’t think he would have a problem evolving on the issue (like Obama, etc.).

I think it was Goldie Taylor that started quoting MLK, and she got a lot of static about being anti-white and betraying MLK’s legacy…..

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:25:18am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

He also thought being gay was a choice and advised a gay teen to visit a psychiatrist, when asked. So, again, a product of his time. But, again, no focus on those issues.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:25:43am

re: #404 Nyet

There were plenty of white unarmed people with mental issues killed by the police. Being black is a big factor. Being mentally ill is no less significant. A huge proportion of all police victims are mentally ill.

Oh no doubt. Sorry if I implied otherwise. We definitely do need to something about how the mentally ill are treated both by society and police departments. Whenever there’s a mass shooting, the first societal instinct is to assume mental illness and we think mass violence= mental illness and we ignore that people with mental illnesses are far more likely to be the victims of crime than commit it.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:26:53am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jimmy Carter’s two sisters, his brother and parents all died of pancreatic cancer.
As a result, Carter gets tested twice a year for it.
Odds are that even though the cancer was discovered in his liver during surgery, it may well have started in his pancreas.

Wouldn’t surprise me. I do remember seeing that his sisters, brother, and father all died fairly young. Jimmy was the oldest but he’s been the only Carter sibling left for some time now.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 9:27:08am

From downstairs:

[Trump]Rand’s campaign is a total mess, and as a matter of fact, I didn’t know he had anybody left in his campaign to make commercials who are not currently under indictment![/Trump]

The Donald is a classless wreck, but I have to admit his response to Ayn Rand Paul was some damn funny sht.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:28:23am

re: #409 Nyet

He also thought being gay was a choice and advised a gay teen to visit a psychiatrist, when asked. So, again, a product of his time. But, again, no focus on those issues.

Fair enough. Just so it’s clear, I am not saying MLK would have supported gay marriage or the gay rights movement overwhelmingly but I am saying that I have a problem with anti-gay people including his own niece using his name to condone anti-gay discrimination. That’s my problem.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:28:46am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jimmy Carter’s two sisters, his brother and parents all died of pancreatic cancer.
As a result, Carter gets tested twice a year for it.
Odds are that even though the cancer was discovered in his liver during surgery, it may well have started in his pancreas.

Pancreatic cancer is the most lethal and rapid-spreading of all types of cancer. By the time it’s diagnosed, it’s terminal.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:29:28am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. Just so it’s clear, I am not saying MLK would have supported gay marriage or the gay rights movement overwhelmingly but I am saying that I have a problem with anti-gay people including his own niece using his name to condone anti-gay discrimination. That’s my problem.

Alveda King has co-opted her uncle’s name to promote her own wingnut agenda. Even her own cousins think she sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:29:37am

As the song says:
If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with:

pic.twitter.com/tUgZZfHM3o

— The Cult Cat (@Elverojaguar) August 13, 2015

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:29:46am

re: #412 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From downstairs:

The Donald is a classless wreck, but I have to admit his response to Ayn Rand Paul was some damn funny sht.

He really nailed by pointing out that they had golfed together and Rand had no problem with him. I think he’s going to do that with a lot of these types that call Donald a conservative come lately. Donald also brought up Jes err Ronald Reagan starting out as a liberal Democrat. Donald may be an asshole but he’s not completely clueless.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:30:28am

We should adopt a Trump font:

Trump

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:30:29am

….

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:30:53am

re: #415 The Vicious Babushka

Alveda King has co-opted her uncle’s name to promote her own wingnut agenda. Even her own cousins think she sucks.

Right, she claimed that when her aunt (MLK’s widow) supported SSM that it didn’t matter since “I got his blood.” That’s nice and all but that doesn’t mean shit about ideology. Ronald Reagan’s son is eons different from his Dad on ideology.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:31:21am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

As the song says:
If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with:

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Cute kid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:31:37am

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Cute kid.

totes adorbs.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:32:42am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

totes adorbs.

She’s like a curly haired version of my niece lol. My niece is very affectionate. Loves giving hugs. I miss her. I really hope my SiL teaches my mom how to take and send photos on her new iPhone when she’s out there this week.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:33:16am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jimmy Carter’s two sisters, his brother and parents all died of pancreatic cancer.
As a result, Carter gets tested twice a year for it.
Odds are that even though the cancer was discovered in his liver during surgery, it may well have started in his pancreas.

One reason pancreatic cancer is so bad is that the pancreas is completely surrounded by all your other internal organs. In addition to making surgery extraordinarily difficult, that makes it easy for it to spread to all those other organs. The liver is the most common.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:34:31am

re: #424 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One reason pancreatic cancer is so bad is that the pancreas is completely surrounded by all your other internal organs. In addition to making surgery extraordinarily difficult, that makes it easy for it to spread to all those other organs. The liver is the most common.

Is that why a pancreatic transplant is so difficult (the proximity to the other internal organs) or is it something about how the pancreas works. Sorry liberal arts guy with only a smidgeon of a biology background.

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danarchy Aug 13, 2015 • 9:34:42am

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Cute kid.

Probably a little smelly though…

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:35:45am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

“all lives matters” bs is noise. But as we dismiss it as noise, it doesn’t mean that we should ignore other issues that affect the shootings that might go beyond race.

Case in point: the shooting of Gilbert Collar.

When a black officer shoots an unarmed (in fact, naked) white teen and can’t get indicted for it in Alabama, of all places, this should indicate you that the issue is multifocused, for a lack of a better word. Yes, often it’s about being black. But it’s also often about being mentally incapacitated. It’s about the police not being willing to deescalate the situation, whether for reasons of racism or lack of professionalism. Shoot first, ask questions later.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:35:47am

I think when looking at historical figures, it’s important to look at their contempoaries. That’s why I can’t give Jefferson, Washington, and the others a pass on slavery while knowing that Franklin was a part of an abolition society and Hamilton too was an opponent of slavery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:36:25am

re: #426 danarchy

Probably a little smelly though…

Truth be told, most little kids are.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 9:36:28am

re: #365 Jenner7

Police: Man injures seven officers during fracas

kctv5.com

I can’t understand how this dude is still alive and allowed to go free on bail. Can someone help me?

I see his picture. I know why.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:36:37am

re: #427 Nyet

“all lives matters” bs is noise. But as we dismiss it as noise, it doesn’t mean that we should ignore other issues that affect the shootings that might go beyond race.

Case in point: the shooting of Gilbert Collar.

When a black officer shoots an unarmed (in fact, naked) white teen and can’t get indicted for it in Alabama, of all places, this should indicate you that the issue is multifocused, for a lack of a better word. Yes, often it’s about being black. But it’s also often about being mentally incapacitated. It’s about the police not being willing to deescalate the situation, whether for reasons of racism or lack of professionalism. Shoot first, ask questions later.

Oh I agree with you. There’s definitely a big problem that exists here about the police in general.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:36:39am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

We should adopt a Trump font:

Trump

Trump

Trump

Trump

YOOGE AND CLASSY!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:36:58am

re: #426 danarchy

Probably a little smelly though…

Heh true.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:37:15am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

YOOGE AND CLASSY!!!11!!!

Ow my eyes. It’s perfect.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:37:28am

I think the gold text needs a black background

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:38:02am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Is that why a pancreatic transplant is so difficult (the proximity to the other internal organs) or is it something about how the pancreas works. Sorry liberal arts guy with only a smidgeon of a biology background.

I’ll have to defer to real medical people on that. The Whipple procedure, like Steve Jobs had, where they remove almost all of the pancreas, would just be the start to doing a transplant, it seems to me—and that’s just about the most elaborate, dangerous surgery they do.

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m0nkeyb0y Aug 13, 2015 • 9:38:44am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Gish Gallop on Twitter

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:38:48am

re: #436 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ll have to defer to real medical people on that. The Whipple procedure, like Steve Jobs had, where they remove almost all of the pancreas, would just be the start to doing a transplant, it seems to me—and that’s just about the most elaborate, dangerous surgery they do.

Okay, gotcha. Man that sounds painful just reading it and you’re talking to a guy who has had his heart operated on for a defibrillator installation.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:39:31am

re: #404 Nyet

There were plenty of white unarmed people with mental issues killed by the police. Being black is a big factor. Being mentally ill is no less significant. A huge proportion of all police victims are mentally ill.

In Soviet Russia is using mental institution for jail.
In America is using jail for mental hospital.
Is so much better.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:39:43am

So far, so good with the search bars being removed. That’s a relief. I was so tired of having to reboot my PC whenever Chrome would stop responding.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:40:03am

re: #430 Eventual Carrion

I see his picture. I know why.

The patriotic salute?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:40:57am

re: #439 Decatur Deb

In Soviet Russia is using mental institution for jail.
In America is using jail for mental hospital.
Is so much better.

Yakov! You’re back!

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:41:03am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

Franklin became an abolitionist after 40 years of slave-owning. Just for some perspective.

articles.philly.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:41:27am

He’s straying from the party line:

Kasich: Undocumented immigrants are “contributing significantly” to US, shouldn't be deported http://t.co/eetd1CAuQs pic.twitter.com/YheE9zcjHX

— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 13, 2015

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 9:42:04am

re: #407 EmmaAnne

Feel free to disagree with me but it is my opinion that the violent and scary branch of these movements actually does damage to their cause. In the civil rights movement that damage was overcome by the peaceful and civil side of it. It is entirely possible that our country would be in a better place today had the violent side of the Civil Rights movement not existed. In my opinion it’s safe to say that had the MLK side of the movement not existed, race relations would be far worse today.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:43:24am

re: #443 Nyet

Franklin became an abolitionist after 40 years of slave-owning. Just for perspective.

articles.philly.com

True point. I am just saying that excusing them as “reluctant slave owners” is bs.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:44:42am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s straying from the party line:

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And that sound you heard was Kasich’s stock going down with Republican voters.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:45:12am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

YOOGE AND CLASSY!!!11!!!

HA! Nice.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:45:29am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s straying from the party line:

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Uh, oh! That should finish him with the Primary crowd. Maybe he thinks everybody else is going to flame out and he’s setting himself up to be Last Man Standing™ in the General. I don’t think it’ll work.

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m0nkeyb0y Aug 13, 2015 • 9:45:40am

re: #220 Romantic Heretic

I have a book in my library, an autobiography by a guy who was a hitter for the mob in the 50s, 60s and 70s.

At the end of the book among his acknowledgements of circumstances that contributed to his career was the patchwork nature of the laws in the US. One of the ways he made money was by buying cigarettes in Virginia and smuggling them into New York. Slap fake tax labels on the packages and he had a nice revenue stream.

He also thanked the US prison system for being a better system for making criminals than any school system the mob could put together. He said, “You send a young man to jail on a marijuana charge and in five years he’ll show you twelve ways to pick every lock in existence.”

Government-provided job training for when he can no longer get a legitimate job!

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:46:28am

Then again, maybe in 50 years we all will be seen as bigots, to some degree or another.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 9:47:08am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

As the song says:
If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one ~~you’re with~~ you fish:

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Fixed it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:47:20am

#STL County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch is live in studio with @martinkilcoyne2 and @RandiNaughton. Listen: http://t.co/K8rNZ6NGcJ

— 550 KTRS St. Louis (@550KTRS) August 13, 2015

#STL County Bob McCulloch just stated that “journalists and lawyers seem to think they are above the law.” via 550am Oh boy. @WesleyLowery

— A Torch (@Torcho) August 13, 2015

good grief…

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:47:30am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s straying from the party line:

If the Democrats squander this election, is Kasich the best hope for not turning back the last 8 years of progress?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:47:58am

re: #451 Nyet

Then again, maybe in 50 years we all will be seen as bigots, to some degree or another.

Heh may well be. Today’s liberal becoming tomorrow’s conservative. I dunno. I have no idea what the pressing issues will be for the generation of my grand children.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:48:43am

re: #445 Csarneson

Feel free to disagree with me but it is my opinion that the violent and scary branch of these movements actually does damage to their cause.

This is where you continue to lose me. What are you talking about?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:48:50am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

If the Democrats squander this election, is Kasich the best hope for not turning back the last 8 years of progress?

I’d have to say so. I “like” and note I am using that term very very loosely here him more than Bush, Rubio, or Walker, three others who are portrayed as moderates.

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 9:49:20am

re: #445 Csarneson

it is my opinion that the violent and scary branch of these movements actually does damage to their cause.

Your opinion is irrelevant in this case.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 9:49:26am

re: #445 Csarneson

Feel free to disagree with me but it is my opinion that the violent and scary branch of these movements actually does damage to their cause. In the civil rights movement that damage was overcome by the peaceful and civil side of it. It is entirely possible that our country would be in a better place today had the violent side of the Civil Rights movement not existed. In my opinion it’s safe to say that had the MLK side of the movement not existed, race relations would be far worse today.

In my opinion (and that of historians and social science researchers), without the more radical end of the movement, NONE of the changes in civil rights would have happened.

IOW, your opinion is not supported and is more wishful thinking than anything else. Without the wide array of options, the “moderate” path of a King is simply not seen as a viable option. Change is almost ALWAYS accompanied by potential of violence.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 9:50:14am

re: #458 wrenchwench

Your opinion is irrelevant in this case.

It’s simply wrong.

He’s free to hold it, but it’s simply wrong.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:50:17am

You do need the loud and radical types. The NAACP was founded by W.E. B DuBois not Booker T. Washington.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:10am

re: #456 Jenner7

EmmaAnne specifically referred to the Panthers and Malcolm X as the violent, loud, and scary side of the movement. That’s what I was referring to.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:40am

re: #460 gwangung

It’s simply wrong.

He’s free to hold it, but it’s simply wrong.

Yeah, it’s typical totebagger pearl-clutching nonsense.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:43am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

The Unofficial Official LGF Trump Font

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:45am

re: #459 gwangung

In my opinion (and that of historians and social science researchers), without the more radical end of the movement, NONE of the changes in civil rights would have happened.

IOW, your opinion is not supported and is more wishful thinking than anything else. Without the wide array of options, the “moderate” path of a King is simply not seen as a viable option. Change is almost ALWAYS accompanied by potential of violence.

Your opinion, and those of historians and social science researchers) are relevant.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:48am

re: #460 gwangung

It’s simply wrong.

He’s free to hold it, but it’s simply wrong.

I think he’s well meaning enough after getting a feel for his point of view but I think a lot of this is frankly formed by being in the situation we are today where someone like MLK is a revered figure whose birthday we celebrate every January. A lot of the people like Gandhi, MLK, and others we generally revere now were attacked for the same reason why groups like BLM are now.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 9:51:55am

It’s not wrong to condemn violent radicals, regardless of anyone’s opinion about their necessity though.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:52:28am

Oh noes, I’m so skeerd of these black women taking Bernie’s microphone! So violent and scary!

C’mon, this is right wing territory. This is why I don’t believe a word you’re saying, Csarneson.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:52:36am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

If the Democrats squander this election, is Kasich the best hope for not turning back the last 8 years of progress?

HRC is barely the best hope for that.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 9:52:55am

re: #469 Decatur Deb

HRC is barely the best hope for that.

Touche’

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Great White Snark Aug 13, 2015 • 9:52:59am

Newborn puppies are cute. Newborn humans too. Put them together, both born on the same day and just take in the sheer cuteness.

See the rest
petapixel.com

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:53:37am

re: #462 Csarneson

Nope. You said the same thing about the women at the Bernie event.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 9:53:40am

re: #467 Nyet

It’s not wrong to condemn violent radicals, regardless of anyone’s opinion about their necessity though.

Depends on which pub you favor.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 9:53:53am

re: #464 Dr. Matt

The Unofficial Official LGF Trump Font

Just needs a black background in order to POP

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BeachDem Aug 13, 2015 • 9:53:56am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

If the Democrats squander this election, is Kasich the best hope for not turning back the last 8 years of progress?

No. Kasich is a good politician, but he is a mean, sneaky asshole at his core.

I’m not sure there IS a best hope on the Republican side, so we’d better not squander this election.

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blueraven Aug 13, 2015 • 9:54:20am

Maybe it is just me, but I have had the TV on all morning and have not heard one word about Ben Carson’s involvement in fetal tissue research.

Guess they are too busy discussing Hillary’s “email scandal”! and the bad courtroom sketch of Tom Brady.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 9:55:19am

re: #475 BeachDem

No. Kasich is a good politician, but he is a mean, sneaky asshole at his core.

I’m not sure there IS a best hope on the Republican side, so we’d better not squander this election.

I am definitely skeptical of him as we all should be. Bob McDonnell campaigned as a moderate here in Va too and was all ready to sign the transvaginal ultrasound bill until a lot of brave Virginia feminists and I was proud to join them for one occasion protested him relentlessly.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:55:21am

re: #476 blueraven

CNN covered it about 25 minutes ago. He tried to excuse his way out of it….

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blueraven Aug 13, 2015 • 9:56:25am

re: #478 Jenner7

CNN covered it about 25 minutes ago. He tried to excuse his way out of it….

He was on the program, or just a statement?

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Black d20 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:56:35am

re: #462 Csarneson

Sometimes, my friend, hair needs to be pulled and feelings hurt. (And I’m still leery about you after the whole ‘thugs’ bit since it’s straight out of the #TCOT playbook.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 9:57:02am

re: #464 Dr. Matt

The Unofficial Official LGF Trump Font

Damn! That’s too long for BBCodeXtra’s Custom Tags.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 9:57:04am

Yes Dana, theft is illegal & still happens, which is why you don't see legislatures repealing theft laws. #GunSense pic.twitter.com/WxE4KP7h6u

— KHARY PENEBAKER (@kharyp) August 13, 2015

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De Kolta Chair Aug 13, 2015 • 9:57:46am

When there’s a huge solar energy spill, it’s just called “a nice day.” #PutSolarOnIt pic.twitter.com/WDESQHfyNg

— Climate Reality (@ClimateReality) August 13, 2015

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 9:58:33am

re: #479 blueraven

Just a statement. He said the difference was that PP was killing babies and he as just using a specimen.

Yeah, heads exploding stupid.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 9:58:34am

re: #468 Jenner7

Oh good lord. I would argue that your suspiciousness is right-wing territory. You sound like the guys claiming Trump is a democratic plant.

Go read the link I posted to The Hill. My views appear to not be uncommon even for liberals. A quick google search this morning showed quite a few articles where liberals are saying the same thing as I said but with significantly better tact and elegance.

Why is it so impossible for a liberal to hold my views? Explain…

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:00:03am

re: #485 Csarneson

Oh good lord. I would argue that your suspiciousness is right-wing territory. You sound like the guys claiming Trump is a democratic plant.

Go read the link I posted to The Hill. My views appear to not be uncommon even for liberals. A quick google search this morning showed quite a few articles where liberals are saying the same thing as I said but with significantly better tact and elegance.

Why is it so impossible for a liberal to hold my views? Explain…

You speak about liberals as though you are not one.

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#FergusonFireside Aug 13, 2015 • 10:00:14am

re: #476 blueraven

Maybe it is just me, but I have had the TV on all morning and have not heard one word about Ben Carson’s involvement in fetal tissue research.

Guess they are too busy discussing Hillary’s “email scandal”! and the bad courtroom sketch of Tom Brady.

CNN covered it.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 10:00:19am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

We need a Dana derp font:
The whole concept of law is wrong. It doesn’t keep bad people from breaking them.

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m0nkeyb0y Aug 13, 2015 • 10:00:50am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

Jimmy Carter, a Navy Vet and a former XO of a Nuclear submarine, defined what it meant to be an actual Christian President. He actually cared about people and our well-being.

And I have noticed that when Democrats have power TeaPublicans resent any gov’t spending more elaborate than windowless cinder-block buildings, for instance, in the name of frugality.

Yet when Mr Carter suggested a warm sweater was one small, reasonable response to the energy crisis the same Tea Party types made fun of him.

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 10:01:15am

re: #378 Dr. Matt

You’re right, she is a nobody. I don’t know why her name is familiar to me.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 10:01:18am

re: #468 Jenner7

Oh noes, I’m so skeerd of these black women taking Bernie’s microphone! So violent and scary!

C’mon, this is right wing territory. This is why I don’t believe a word you’re saying, Csarneson.

Yeah, pretty much this. What BLM is doing is pretty far from wide scale violence and killing. And the attempt to paint ALL of the protestors as violent is, at best, sloppy, lazy thinking.

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:01:23am

re: #468 Jenner7

This is why I don’t believe a word you’re saying, Csarneson.

It’s a hatchling. Its motives remain unknown.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:01:30am

re: #488 lawhawk

We need a Dana derp font:
The whole concept of law is wrong. It doesn’t keep bad people from breaking them.

Dana is too lame to get her very own font. Generic wingnut font for her!

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:02:12am

re: #480 Black d20

Fine. Poor choice of words on my part. I rarely read right wing websites or check their twitter feeds to pick out which keywords they are using at any given time. The only exposure I get to Fox is from the Daily Show or when I visit my folks.

I’ve never met a black thug in my lifetime. I’ve known several white thugs though.

I don’t equate it to a racist term although you clearly do.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 10:02:29am

re: #485 Csarneson

Because the very first thing out of your mouth about the movement was “thug”. Then you kept saying it was violent, when it’s not.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:02:49am

re: #481 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Damn! That’s too long for BBCodeXtra’s Custom Tags.

Just the way Trump would like it

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:00am

re: #489 m0nkeyb0y

And I have noticed that when Democrats have power TeaPublicans resent any gov’t spending more elaborate than windowless cinder-block buildings, for instance, in the name of frugality.

Yet when Mr Carter suggested a warm sweater was one small, reasonable response to the energy crisis the same Tea Party types made fun of him.

Hell, LBJ told them to shut off unused lights in the White House, and from there on in, he was “Light Bulb Johnson”.

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blueraven Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:07am

re: #485 Csarneson

Oh good lord. I would argue that your suspiciousness is right-wing territory. You sound like the guys claiming Trump is a democratic plant.

Go read the link I posted to The Hill. My views appear to not be uncommon even for liberals. A quick google search this morning showed quite a few articles where liberals are saying the same thing as I said but with significantly better tact and elegance.

Why is it so impossible for a liberal to hold my views? Explain…

Maybe it is because you seem to have registered an account here just to rail on this issue. We don’t know you OK?

I have made some comments that also disagree with some of the tactics by that Seattle group, although I think, a bit more evenly.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:09am

re: #494 Csarneson

I’ve never met a black thug in my lifetime. I’ve known several white thugs though.

I don’t equate it to a racist term although you clearly do.

Be aware that it’s a dog whistle meant to be the equivalent of the N word.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:09am

CBS radio news just had a segment on Carson and his medical research.

fixed: CBS radio, not ABC.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:31am

re: #497 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hell, LBJ told them to shut off unused lights in the White House, and from there on in, he was “Light Bulb Johnson”.

LBJ: Official White House Grandmother.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:03:50am

re: #491 gwangung

Yeah, pretty much this. What BLM is doing is pretty far from wide scale violence and killing. And the attempt to paint ALL of the protestors as violent is, at best, sloppy, lazy thinking.

We lizards impose that self-policing standard on RWNJ organizations. If you don’t defend your trademark, you bought the statement.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:04:02am

re: #490 Skip Intro

You’re right, she is a nobody. I don’t know why her name is familiar to me.

She’s a D-lister Islamophobe

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:04:34am

re: #499 gwangung

Be aware that it’s a dog whistle meant to be the equivalent of the N word.

I.E. why a football player like Richard Sherman who while he has never gotten in trouble with the law and does quite a bit off the field gets that label from people.

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#FergusonFireside Aug 13, 2015 • 10:04:47am

The Connecticut Supreme Court just let everyone off the state's death row. #toomuchdoubt http://t.co/Ugf43UNwfn

— Ben Jealous (@BenJealous) August 13, 2015

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m0nkeyb0y Aug 13, 2015 • 10:04:48am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Carter is someone who southern Christian conservatives should rever- a patriot, devout Christian, married to the same lady for I think 70 years, but he’s hated.

Again and again their blatant disregard for their most-cherished principles when there is a Democrat to smear puts the lie to their alleged piety and patriotism.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:05:05am

re: #494 Csarneson

Fine. Poor choice of words on my part. I rarely read right wing websites or check their twitter feeds to pick out which keywords they are using at any given time. The only exposure I get to Fox is from the Daily Show or when I visit my folks.

I’ve never met a black thug in my lifetime. I’ve known several white thugs though.

I don’t equate it to a racist term although you clearly do.

I just snorted seltzer through my nose.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:05:11am

re: #488 lawhawk

We need a Dana derp font:
The whole concept of law is wrong. It doesn’t keep bad people from breaking them.

Yeah Dana just doesn’t get it. What a shocker though.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:05:56am

re: #505 #FergusonFireside

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Good move.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:06:37am

Dana just can’t resist a racist dig at Elizabeth Warren==>

After talking for 2 years about a possible Warren candidacy I’m glad to see some are finally paying attention to her in polls. #Lieawatha

— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) August 13, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:07:03am

There are two interconnected issues: real-political understanding of how the Overton window works in real life; and actual embracing of the forces that are dragging that Overton window.

You can accept that the presence of the Soviet Union had a positive influence on some things elsewhere, incl. the US (ignoring the red scare/McCarthyism for a second). Like, some argue, the Soviets launching the Sputnik was a blow to creationism in the US schools. Or that the Soviet (pretty faux) focus on the race issues might have given an impetus for the US to be slightly more progressive in that area so as not the be the “bad guy” in comparison with the Soviets.

You can accept that while also accepting that USSR was an evil totalitarian state. Gray areas. Nuance works like that.

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Joe Bacon Aug 13, 2015 • 10:08:25am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Openly flouting the court order, because they think Jesus orders them to be assholes to other people==>

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Fine, so when will she be held in contempt of court?

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 10:08:36am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

Yeah Dana just doesn’t get it. What a shocker though.

Is Dana effecting the Donald Trump “don’t fuck with me” look now? Her face looks like it’s made of solid stone.

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:09:25am

re: #511 Nyet

Gray areas. Nuance works like that.

Takes some functional gray matter to work with gray areas.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:10:18am

re: #490 Skip Intro

You’re right, she is a nobody. I don’t know why her name is familiar to me.

She’s one of the wingnuts that Sadly, No! would skewer on a regular basis.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:11:27am

re: #514 wrenchwench

Takes some functional gray matter to work with gray areas.

This isn’t going to turn into that whips-and-chains thing again, is it?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:12:49am

re: #513 Skip Intro

Is Dana effecting the Donald Trump “don’t fuck with me” look now? Her face looks like it’s made of solid stone.

I don’t know. I think she always tries to be “intimidating” when she just looks silly.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 13, 2015 • 10:12:50am

re: #511 Nyet

There are two interconnected issues: real-political understanding of how the Overton window works in real life; and actual embracing the forces that are dragging that Overton window.

You can accept that the presence of Soviet Union had a positive influence on some things elsewhere, incl. the US (ignoring the red scare/McCarthyism for a second). Like, some argue, the Soviets launching the Sputnik was a blow to creationism in the US schools. Or that the Soviet (pretty faux) focus on the race issues might have given an impetus for the US to be slightly more progressive in that area so as not the be the “bad guy” in comparison with the Soviets.

You can accept that while also accepting that USSR was an evil totalitarian state. Gray areas. Nuance works like that.

I posted this a few years back, about how the implied threat of revolution is a real driver of change.

Edit (might as well include the whole post)

(Boiling point)

Wake up, Randian assholes.

It is not entirely fuzzy headed altruism that drives these programs.

Today, this society has the benefit of millions of trained and educated people who would be illiterate if libertarian extremists and their predecessors had prevailed in the education funding debate. There are doctors, lawyers, and distinguished scientists whose early brain development would have been stunted without publicly funded food “giveways.” You wonder why academics hate your guts? Many of them KNOW they would have starved as children if your ilk had gotten its way.
Those who were privileged as children know their best students wouldn’t have made it to the fifth grade, let alone college, without these “giveways, this “theft” from pockets of “hard-working” folk like you morons.

Communists did not overthrow the Russian Empire and the Chinese Republic because the peasants wanted a free ride or thought goatees were cool. The peasants joined the Reds because they could see people starving in the streets, good, smart people, while inbred fatcats waltzed away the wealth that was their alleged birthright.
I hear racists bitch about the fat minority women who buy mountains of groceries with WIC cards at the local store. Good, maybe they are too fat and their kids are too busy doing homework to run me through with a pitchfork when they see me in my Rolls-Royce. I pay a LOT in taxes, goddammit, more than most Randian fantasists, and I would rather be dead than see this bill reduced at the expense of letting children grow up hungry and stunted, fodder for crazed revolutionaries.

“It can’t happen here.” That’s because we didn’t let it happen. A lot of people seem hellbent on changing that.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:13:01am

re: #491 gwangung

Sorry but that is bullshit. I never described everyone as violent nor did I imply it. I certainly do not believe that the entire movement is violent. I simply stated that the Seattle women who were being described as leaders of the group were not doing much to discourage that extreme side of the movement. While I don’t know a lot about Deray he seems significantly better.

As for my new account, Charles for quite a while didn’t allow just anybody to join at any time. I saw him occasionally post that he would open it up for a weekend or so but frankly I wasnt that interested. Adding a bunch of “Ha, Ha” comments when he he points out the hypocrisy of Hoft of Chuck isn’t a lot of fun for me. I certainly enjoy reading some of those but had no desire to post additional “me too’s”. This topic was the pretty rare situation where I felt like my view was underrepresented in the discussion and so I registered. Obviously looking at some of the recent articles coming out from liberal people like Chait, I am not completely alone.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:13:36am

re: #510 The Vicious Babushka

Dana just can’t resist a racist dig at Elizabeth Warren==>

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And yet Dana would probably call someone a racist if they pointed out that Marco Rubio lied about his parents being Castro exiles.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:13:57am

re: #516 Decatur Deb

This isn’t going to turn into that whips-and-chains thing again, is it?

You said you liked it the last time.

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BeachDem Aug 13, 2015 • 10:14:10am

re: #485 Csarneson

Oh good lord. I would argue that your suspiciousness is right-wing territory. You sound like the guys claiming Trump is a democratic plant.

Go read the link I posted to The Hill. My views appear to not be uncommon even for liberals. A quick google search this morning showed quite a few articles where liberals are saying the same thing as I said but with significantly better tact and elegance.

Why is it so impossible for a liberal to hold my views? Explain…

I think you are taking one (or a few) incidents and trying to generalize them to a widespread viewpoint. The other night, we were discussing the Stonewall Riots (which you said you had never heard of—but then, later quickly discounted their importance) and some of the SNCC tactics during the civil rights era. At the time, someone asked if you were familiar with Act Up. Don’t recall a response, so here, for your reading enjoyment, Charles P. Pierce on Act Up. (btw—Pierce was not a fan of the Seattle disruption, but explains, I think, rather well the remarkable success achieved by the guerrilla movement called ACT UP.
esquire.com

He describes them as the modern embodiment of William Lloyd Garrison’s statement of purpose,

Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen; — but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest — I will not equivocate — I will not excuse — I will not retreat a single inch — AND I WILL BE HEARD.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:14:39am

re: #520 HappyWarrior

And yet Dana would probably call someone a racist if they pointed out that Marco Rubio lied about his parents being Castro exiles.

HURR HURR IT TEH WAR ON WIMMENS & TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS ONLY WHENS U SAY SUMTHINGS BAD ABOUT TEH CONSERVATIFS!!!!!!1!!

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:15:02am

re: #516 Decatur Deb

This isn’t going to turn into that whips-and-chains thing again, is it?

I have a chain whip, and lots of chains, but no whips by themselves.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:15:29am

re: #521 Nyet

You said you liked it the last time.

And then they quit.

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 13, 2015 • 10:15:45am

Ahem.

Back in the day, MLK was the scary radical, and his detractors claimed that his words would lead to violence.

The whole “this peaceful movement was different, and therefore worked” thing is hindsight and myth-making.

And I’m not even going to get into Quit India and Gandhi. So much complicated shit going on there. Everybody remembers holy man Gandhi at the end of his life, and forgets crafty bastard Gandhi who made tactical decisions to screw the British Empire using its own justification system.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 10:16:06am

re: #513 Skip Intro

Is Dana effecting the Donald Trump “don’t fuck with me” look now? Her face looks like it’s made of solid stone.

It’s her “Blue Steel” look.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:17:11am

democratic plant

they practice photoshop-synthesis

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blueraven Aug 13, 2015 • 10:17:12am

re: #519 Csarneson

Sorry but that is bullshit. I never described everyone as violent nor did I imply it. I certainly do not believe that the entire movement is violent. I simply stated that the Seattle women who were being described as leaders of the group were not doing much to discourage that extreme side of the movement. While I don’t know a lot about Deray he seems significantly better.

As for my new account, Charles for quite a while didn’t allow just anybody to join at any time. I saw him occasionally post that he would open it up for a weekend or so but frankly I wasnt that interested. Adding a bunch of “Ha, Ha” comments when he he points out the hypocrisy of Hoft of Chuck isn’t a lot of fun for me. I certainly enjoy reading some of those but had no desire to post additional “me too’s”. This topic was the pretty rare situation where I felt like my view was underrepresented in the discussion and so I registered. Obviously looking at some of the recent articles coming out from liberal people like Chait, I am not completely alone.

If you don’t like the conversations here, there are thousands of other blogs.
And good grief, we talk about a lot more than Hoft. Passive aggressive assholiness is no way to win friends.

Also registration has been “open” for a long time!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:17:46am

re: #519 Csarneson

Sorry but that is bullshit. I never described everyone as violent nor did I imply it. I certainly do not believe that the entire movement is violent. I simply stated that the Seattle women who were being described as leaders of the group were not doing much to discourage that extreme side of the movement. While I don’t know a lot about Deray he seems significantly better.

As for my new account, Charles for quite a while didn’t allow just anybody to join at any time. I saw him occasionally post that he would open it up for a weekend or so but frankly I wasnt that interested. Adding a bunch of “Ha, Ha” comments when he he points out the hypocrisy of Hoft of Chuck isn’t a lot of fun for me. I certainly enjoy reading some of those but had no desire to post additional “me too’s”. This topic was the pretty rare situation where I felt like my view was underrepresented in the discussion and so I registered. Obviously looking at some of the recent articles coming out from liberal people like Chait, I am not completely alone.

tl;dr

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:18:26am

re: #526 The Ghost of a Flea

Ahem.

Back in the day, MLK was the scary radical, and his detractors claimed that his words would lead to violence.

The whole “this peaceful movement was different, and therefore worked” thing is hindsight and myth-making.

And I’m not even going to get into Quit India and Gandhi. So much complicated shit going on there. Everybody remembers holy man Gandhi at the end of his life, and forgets crafty bastard Gandhi who made tactical decisions to screw the British Empire using its own justification system.

That’s what I’ve been trying to say. I’ll give Csarn credit for coming back after the first night but I do think with all respect to him that he’s been romanticizing the past Civil Rights movements that we look on now with fond eyes because of their success and ignore how they were viewed at the time. I think J Edgar Hoover called MLK the most dangerous man in America.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:18:34am

re: #519 Csarneson

Nice flounce, bro

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 10:18:47am

re: #510 The Vicious Babushka

Dana just can’t resist a racist dig at Elizabeth Warren==>

Gosh, Dana gunz is just hilarious.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:19:29am

re: #533 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Gosh, Dana gunz is just hilarious.

/

And original too.

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 10:19:54am

re: #519 Csarneson

I simply stated that the Seattle women who were being described as leaders of the group were not doing much to discourage that extreme side of the movement.

Give me an example of the “extreme side of the movement”??

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 10:20:44am

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:21:10am

re: #519 Csarneson

This topic was the pretty rare situation where I felt like my view was underrepresented in the discussion

So, you like to show up all of a sudden when you think you disagree with the most people?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:21:15am

re: #526 The Ghost of a Flea

Ahem.

Back in the day, MLK was the scary radical, and his detractors claimed that his words would lead to violence.

The whole “this peaceful movement was different, and therefore worked” thing is hindsight and myth-making.

And I’m not even going to get into Quit India and Gandhi. So much complicated shit going on there. Everybody remembers holy man Gandhi at the end of his life, and forgets crafty bastard Gandhi who made tactical decisions to screw the British Empire using its own justification system.

I’m just hoping we’re not building up to an Amritsar Massacre. If things keep going like they are in Ferguson….

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:21:40am

MLK is beloved now but if you had asked many whites in 1965, I bet many would say the same thing that many are saying about BLM today. And I will add that a lot of these activists are young people. I don’t think they deserve to be condescended to and talked down to and told “Ya know MLK wouldn’t like that”. I am sorry but I remain having a big problem with people who by their own admission aren’t form the demo group telling people in a demographic group that one of their group’s biggest heroes wouldn’t support what they’d do. It reeks of “I know what’s best for you.”

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:21:42am

re: #519 Csarneson

The grudge again. If you think we’re doing it wrong here, you’re free to do it right. Here or elsewhere. If you stick to the topic, expressing a point of view that is unpopular, I’ll support it as long as you don’t come near bigotry/hate speech. But if you’re gonna keep dropping these little … bits about how what we’re writing here is this or that, think about what’s the goal of you being here.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:01am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

re: #387 Dr. Matt

El Oh El. hahahahahahaah

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Lidane Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:13am

WorldNetDaily reports on Illuminati/Luciferian control of the US government, Jade Helm 15 threat http://t.co/uD9IeSWoxN

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) August 13, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:18am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

Me too, ha ha.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:32am

re: #531 HappyWarrior

He did turn out to be one of the most dangerous men to that kind of America.

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Sionainn Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:48am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

Ha ha, me neither.

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Kragar Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:50am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

Me too…

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:22:52am

re: #542 Lidane

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Damnit, they figured it out. We got a Red Monkey here! Red Monkey!

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:00am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

Me to.

And I’m more of a Heh guy.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:14am

re: #544 Nyet

He did turn out to be one of the most dangerous men to that kind of America.

Ha yep. Point though is I think a lot of people romanticize MLK now and I am sure I’ve been guilty of that myself before at one point. We see someone who is admired today and we just think “Well if only these movements were like that then people would support them like MLK got support.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:24am

re: #542 Lidane

If Lucifer’s got the government, then what the hell would he need Jade Helm or the Illuminati for?

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Dr Lizardo Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:30am

re: #542 Lidane

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Doofus Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:42am

…

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Lidane Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:45am

UT-Austin will move Jefferson Davis statue, Uni President announces http://t.co/EKE5FnNHIa pic.twitter.com/GZbfWLsiKn

— SPLC (@splcenter) August 13, 2015

My Republican co-workers are surprisingly copacetic about this, even the ones who went to UT. Maybe it’s because the statue is being moved, not destroyed.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:52am

re: #548 lawhawk

Me to.

And I’m more of a Heh guy.

As long as it’s not “Hey, indeedy!”

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:24:53am

re: #540 Nyet

The grudge again. If you think we’re doing it wrong here, you’re free to do it right. Here or elsewhere. If you stick to the topic, expressing a point of view that is unpopular, I’ll support it as long as you don’t come near bigotry/hate speech. But if you’re gonna keep dropping these little … bits about how what we’re writing here is this or that, think about what’s the goal of you being here.

Fair to a fault.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:25:46am

re: #550 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Lucifer’s got the government, then what the hell would he need Jade Helm or the Illuminati for?

Why would God need a Starship?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:25:53am

re: #550 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Lucifer’s got the government, then what the hell would he need Jade Helm or the Illuminati for?

Why does God need a starship?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:26:42am

re: #556 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why would God need a Starship?

You win, by 7 seconds. If I hadn’t stopped to de-capitalize ‘starship’, I’d have won!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 10:26:44am

#TBT Neil, Mike & me in quarantine after #Apollo11. We noticed a crack in the floor & tiny ants came up through it. pic.twitter.com/gI6dYakl4Z

— Buzz Aldrin (@TheRealBuzz) August 13, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:27:28am

re: #559 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Great fucking quarantine, that.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:28:00am

re: #560 Blind Frog Belly White

Great fucking quarantine, that.

It was a re-purposed camping trailer.

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Franklin Aug 13, 2015 • 10:28:48am

Me too.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:28:51am

Imagine spending all that time in the tiny confines of the CM and the LEM - that Airstream musta felt like a PALACE!

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 13, 2015 • 10:29:31am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Abortion is legal, yet people still choose not not get them. Must be a loophole in the law!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:29:41am

re: #559 Backwoods_Sleuth

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#TBT Neil, Mike & me in quarantine after #Apollo11. We noticed a crack in the floor & tiny ants came up through it.

Oh, that’s priceless! Biological isolation. That’d keep those Lunar viruses in all right.

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:29:41am

re: #540 Nyet

Maybe my point didn’t come out right. I was attempting to say that I didn’t feel I had anything to add to those post discussions other than a “ha, ha” or “me too” type comment containing little value.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 10:29:43am

re: #542 Lidane

What that something is, of course, is a matter of speculation, as Hohmann’s article is mostly an exercise in just asking the question journalism. For example: “The Jade Helm military exercises taking place through mid-September also have given rise to conspiracy theories. Is the government preparing for some major future event that will bring chaos to America?”

HEY WERE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS1!!!!!

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Skip Intro Aug 13, 2015 • 10:30:04am

re: #557 Blind Frog Belly White

Why does God need a starship?

Why does God need money?

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:30:08am

re: #559 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love Buzz. Just about the coolest of the former astronauts. He even visited a neighboring elementary school that was named after him. I went to middle and high school with some of those kids and I was so jealous.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:30:51am

re: #564 GlutenFreeJesus

Abortion is legal, yet people still choose not not get them. Must be a loophole in the law!

Tobacco is legal yet I hardly ever smoke. Obvs loophole.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:12am

re: #542 Lidane

luciferian

imagine, the entire universe caught up in a teenage rebellion scenario with lucifer telling god fuck you dad i dont need you and i never needed you

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:16am

re: #567 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Factor in the strange embedding of “Sept. 23, 2015,” into dozens of Hollywood movies and music videos dating back to the 1980s, and you have the recipe for a fast-growing Internet conspiracy theory with questions frequently asked about possible Illuminati influence. Then you have the scheduled arrival of Pope Francis at the White House on Sept. 23 and a first-ever address to a joint session of Congress the next day. Francis is the 266th pope who will be meeting with President Obama on the 266th day of the year, leading one Internet preacher to wonder if “something is being birthed” on that day, since 266 days is the typical human gestation period from conception to birth.

This is fabulous stuff.

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:30am

re: #556 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why would God need a Starship?

Is it bad that I’ll watch that film just for that line and Shatner’s delivery of it?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:42am

re: #571 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

imagine, the entire universe caught up in a teenage rebellion scenario with lucifer telling god fuck you dad i dont need you and i never needed you

“You ruined my life!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:57am

re: #565 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, that’s priceless! Biological isolation. That’d keep those Lunar viruses in all right.

A week later, those tiny ants were YOOOGE!!!

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wrenchwench Aug 13, 2015 • 10:31:58am

re: #559 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I thought at first it was these guys:

from Darkstar.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:32:20am

re: #573 Timothy Watson

Is it bad that I’ll watch that film just for that line and Shatner’s delivery of it?

Do you have other, more sinister masochistic tendencies?

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Lidane Aug 13, 2015 • 10:32:37am

re: #573 Timothy Watson

Is it bad that I’ll watch that film just for that line and Shatner’s delivery of it?

There are YouTube clips, you know. ;)

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:33:01am

re: #572 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is fabulous stuff.

/

The screenwriter of JFK is jealous of this..

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:33:02am

re: #566 Csarneson

Maybe my point didn’t come out right. I was attempting to say that I didn’t feel I had anything to add to those post discussions other than a “ha, ha” or “me too” type comment containing little value.

Well, it did sound like an implication that that’s what we mostly do here and you did not want to add some of your own, but whatever.

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Jayleia Aug 13, 2015 • 10:33:02am

So, I’m working out now at the age of 40, joined a local gym (little storefront thing, mostly older, but very workable machines).

And of course, I can’t forget doing cardio…so…I did something I hadn’t done since high-school.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:33:12am

re: #573 Timothy Watson

Is it bad that I’ll watch that film just for that line and Shatner’s delivery of it?

No. People rag on that movie and Shatner’s “pacing”, but maybe if they hadn’t chopped 20 minutes out of the middle it would have made more sense. Just an idea.

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Black d20 Aug 13, 2015 • 10:33:44am

re: #494 Csarneson

I suppose we’ll see where you stand in due time. Going by your recent statements and generalizations, I’m starting to wonder if you need to — to quote the *chans — lurk moar.

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gwangung Aug 13, 2015 • 10:34:00am

re: #519 Csarneson

Sorry but that is bullshit. I never described everyone as violent nor did I imply it. I certainly do not believe that the entire movement is violent. I simply stated that the Seattle women who were being described as leaders of the group were not doing much to discourage that extreme side of the movement. While I don’t know a lot about Deray he seems significantly better.

As for my new account, Charles for quite a while didn’t allow just anybody to join at any time. I saw him occasionally post that he would open it up for a weekend or so but frankly I wasnt that interested. Adding a bunch of “Ha, Ha” comments when he he points out the hypocrisy of Hoft of Chuck isn’t a lot of fun for me. I certainly enjoy reading some of those but had no desire to post additional “me too’s”. This topic was the pretty rare situation where I felt like my view was underrepresented in the discussion and so I registered. Obviously looking at some of the recent articles coming out from liberal people like Chait, I am not completely alone.

What lazy thinking. It is unfamiliar with history and context and it makes sloppy comparisons. Calling the Seattle incident extreme is lazy. It is nothing to REAL extreme options and REAL radical thought.

And don’t cite other lazy thinkers like Chait, who’s simply out of his depth when talking about race and modern society. They have a narrow, ethnocentric view of the world that has no conception of how other parts of society live or could possibly think differently as themselves.

They have no clue about people who could think as well as they do, but not the same as they do.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:34:27am

the strange embedding of “Sept. 23, 2015,” into dozens of Hollywood movies

huh like where for example?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:34:49am

re: #572 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is fabulous stuff.

/

I guess if you sold everything and moved to the woods before 1/1/2000, and then again before 12/12/2012, you keep looking for more opportunities to make a colossal fool of yourself.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:35:42am

re: #585 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the strange embedding of “Sept. 23, 2015,” into dozens of Hollywood movies

huh like where for example?

You know the one and that one. But yeah this is too funny. I’ll give WND credit. They sure know how to dial up on the stupid. It’s no wonder why Sarah Palin is an avid reader.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:35:47am

re: #575 Backwoods_Sleuth

A week later, those tiny ants were YOOOGE!!!

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Jenner7 Aug 13, 2015 • 10:35:48am

I’m forcing myself to get out of this chair and go grocery shopping. BBL. Have a good afternoon!

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Black d20 Aug 13, 2015 • 10:36:12am

re: #494 Csarneson

Also, ‘thug’ has been used pretty extensively as a dog whistle for the good ol’ N-bomb, so be on notice. In fact, lemme give you some advice: if you’re really trying to understand and empathize with modern black folk and what has them agitated, perhaps you should… I dunno, ask them questions and listen. Set aside your preconceived ideas and hear it straight from the PoC’s mouth.

I’m here, and I know others are. It’d at least help convince me you’re not some sort of stealth troll or unusually intelligent /r/Coontown refugee looking for some people to rile up.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:36:31am

True story, I well actually my one brother rented Terminator 2: Judgement Day on actual Judgement Day from the movie. Some date in August of 1997. Obviously he’s in cahoots with Skynet.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:37:30am

re: #588 Decatur Deb

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Are we going to need a bigger ant farm?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:37:37am

re: #587 HappyWarrior

You know the one and that one. But yeah this is too funny. I’ll give WND credit. They sure know how to dial up on the stupid. It’s no wonder why Sarah Palin is an avid reader.

um not ‘back to the future’ by any chance?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Aug 13, 2015 • 10:37:54am

re: #585 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the strange embedding of “Sept. 23, 2015,” into dozens of Hollywood movies

huh like where for example?

Use the google urself we don’t have time to du your research for you!!!1111

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:38:26am

re: #586 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess if you sold everything and moved to the woods before 1/1/2000, and then again before 12/12/2012, you keep looking for more opportunities to make a colossal fool of yourself.

I wonder how The X-Files miniseries is going to explain why the aliens didn’t invade in 2012 like they were suppose to.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:38:50am

re: #593 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

um not ‘back to the future’ by any chance?

I think that was October since people love bringing up the fact that the Cubs win the World Series against an unknown Miami team.

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iossarian Aug 13, 2015 • 10:38:53am

re: #591 HappyWarrior

True story, I well actually my one brother rented Terminator 2: Judgement Day on actual Judgement Day from the movie.

Woah. Dude.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:38:54am

re: #542 Lidane

Ugh. I read the comments at World Nut Daily. 10 mL eye bleach, Stat.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:00am

re: #591 HappyWarrior

True story, I well actually my one brother rented Terminator 2: Judgement Day on actual Judgement Day from the movie. Some date in August of 1997. Obviously he’s in cahoots with Skynet.

Did you ever dial 555-1212 to see who answers?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:19am

re: #590 Black d20

Also, ‘thug’ has been used pretty extensively as a dog whistle for the good ol’ N-bomb, so be on notice. In fact, lemme give you some advice: if you’re really trying to understand and empathize with modern black folk and what has them agitated, perhaps you should… I dunno, ask them questions and listen. Set aside your preconceived ideas and hear it straight from the PoC’s mouth.

I’m here, and I know others are. It’d at least help convince me you’re not some sort of stealth troll or unusually intelligent /r/Coontown refugee looking for some people to rile up.

Along that line, I can recommend Ta-Nehisi Coates book, ‘Between The World And Me’, which I found simultaneously eye-opening and stomach churning. It made me rethink a number of facile white liberal opinions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:25am

re: #588 Decatur Deb

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THEM!!!

Didn’t PHFFFT! come out the same year? I think they were trying to start a trend.

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:25am

re: #577 Blind Frog Belly White

Do you have other, more sinister masochistic tendencies?

Sounds like therapy to me

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:36am

re: #594 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Use the google urself we don’t have time to du your research for you!!!1111

I just Googled that and got a big bunch of TEH CRAZIE

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:39:51am

re: #597 iossarian

Woah. Dude.

I know. I was ten years old and legit freaked out. I thought the world was going to end. Damnit,, Joe Farah should have hired ten year old me and I’d be celebrating my 18th anniversary writing for him later this month.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:40:02am

re: #599 Decatur Deb

Did you ever dial 555-1212 to see who answers?

Nah.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:40:15am

re: #591 HappyWarrior

True story, I well actually my one brother rented Terminator 2: Judgement Day on actual Judgement Day from the movie. Some date in August of 1997. Obviously he’s in cahoots with Skynet.

Skynet DID take over. Now we’re all in the Matrix. Hey, didn’t I just see that cat a moment ago?

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ObserverArt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:40:36am

Yeah…lurking while learning. Right now I’m trying to export a finished (I hope!) video file from out of Adobe Premiere CC and that takes some time.

Anyway, if anyone thinks Martin Luther King wasn’t considered a threat just remember how he died.

Almost like James Earl Ray thought he was grabbing too many microphones or something.

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:40:41am

re: #518 Shiplord Kirel

Just got to reading that comment. It was great.

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blueraven Aug 13, 2015 • 10:40:52am

re: #589 Jenner7

I’m forcing myself to get out of this chair and go grocery shopping. BBL. Have a good afternoon!

Must do the same. Should have gone early. Now I can look forward to 105 degree temps upon loading groceries into my beast. ugh.

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lawhawk Aug 13, 2015 • 10:41:34am

re: #554 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Me.. me… me….

Me too.

…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 10:41:41am

re: #595 Timothy Watson

I wonder how The X-Files miniseries is going to explain why the aliens didn’t invade in 2012 like they were suppose to.

They are already here:

The octopus is so highly evolved scientists think it's an alien http://t.co/EIRsW7Eaiu pic.twitter.com/S4GE46kM5B

— The Independent (@Independent) August 13, 2015

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Csarneson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:42:04am

re: #584 gwangung

and I was called condescending?

I’m well aware that history is muddy and there is little black and white in this world. You won’t ever hear me agree with “the ends justified the means” arguments though. It’s that kind of thinking that creates situations where abortion doctors are murdered. I feel like a stale old white guy for saying this but I think there is a right way and a wrong way of making change in this world. I’m not telling anybody to shut up or not voice their opinion but I certainly think strategy matters if you want to be successful. Yelling and name-calling would be near the bottom of my recommended strategies.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:42:21am

The Shadow Moses Incident happened a decade ago already.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 13, 2015 • 10:43:11am

LOLWHUT==>

No, they bomb the womb. https://t.co/eICD9GkbdZ

— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) August 13, 2015

Replying to this which has a bunch of wingnut panties in a bunch==>

We interrupt this vacation to bring you an important public service announcement #StandwithPP pic.twitter.com/n3lK34wVLB

— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) August 12, 2015

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Nyet Aug 13, 2015 • 10:44:37am

re: #614 The Vicious Babushka

Right after they comb the tomb.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 10:45:03am

re: #595 Timothy Watson

I wonder how The X-Files miniseries is going to explain why the aliens didn’t invade in 2012 like they were suppose to.

Maybe like how X-Men, Days of the Future Passed explained how Dr. X, whom Jean Grey shredded, was still around, and how Magneto managed to regain the powers he’d lost permanently.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:45:12am

re: #614 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT==>

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Would Dana say that to Barbara Bush? Every Republican first lady except Nancy Reagan after Roe has been pro-choice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 13, 2015 • 10:45:34am

re: #611 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are already here:

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And there’s this:

“Flying spaghetti monster” caught on camera by underwater rover: http://t.co/vnklyNUyct pic.twitter.com/mf18seSsdp

— Motherboard (@motherboard) August 12, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 13, 2015 • 10:46:04am

re: #612 Csarneson

and I was called condescending?

I’m well aware that history is muddy and there is little black and white in this world. You won’t ever hear me agree with “the ends justified the means” arguments though. It’s that kind of thinking that creates situations where abortion doctors are murdered. I feel like a stale old white guy for saying this but I think there is a right way and a wrong way of making change in this world. I’m not telling anybody to shut up or not voice their opinion but I certainly think strategy matters if you want to be successful. Yelling and name-calling would be near the bottom of my recommended strategies.

some friendly advice:

lose the defensiveness and self justification, write shorter responses, and accept gracefully that people may call you an idiot from time to time

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Timothy Watson Aug 13, 2015 • 10:48:23am

re: #616 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe like how X-Men, Days of the Future Passed explained how Dr. X, whom Jean Grey shredded, was still around, and how Magneto managed to regain the powers he’d lost permanently.

Well, Magneto’s powers were coming back at the very end of X-Men: The Last Stand when he makes the chest pieces move while in his prison.

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HappyWarrior Aug 13, 2015 • 10:48:38am

By the way. Back to the Future 2 is 10-21-15.

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Dr. Matt Aug 13, 2015 • 10:49:01am

re: #599 Decatur Deb

Did you ever dial 555-1212 to see who answers?

Back in the old days (rotary phone) that use to be information. Is it still?

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 10:57:47am

re: #622 Dr. Matt

Back in the old days (rotary phone) that use to be information. Is it still?

Now it’s the throw-away non-number used in TV dramas by convention.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 13, 2015 • 11:02:57am

re: #622 Dr. Matt

Back in the old days (rotary phone) that use to be information. Is it still?

There’s an easy way to find out.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 13, 2015 • 11:10:36am

re: #572 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Sept. 23 is my son’s birthday. I’d better keep an eye on him now.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 12:03:45pm

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that LGF was overrun with “ha ha” and “me too” comments…

Me neither … oops

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 12:06:00pm

re: #550 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Lucifer’s got the government, then what the hell would he need Jade Helm or the Illuminati for?

Everyone needs shits and giggles.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 13, 2015 • 12:10:11pm

re: #599 Decatur Deb

Did you ever dial 555-1212 to see who answers?

No, but I did call 867-5309. I got the number off a wall.

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Decatur Deb Aug 13, 2015 • 12:33:02pm

re: #628 Eventual Carrion

Heh. Had to look it up.

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teleskiguy Aug 13, 2015 • 10:43:18pm

re: #91 darthstar

Buddy of mine is down there right now for a two week trip & ski clinic. I’m hoping it changes him…he’s an instructor and spends all of his time on groomers.

Your buddy is going to come back and tell you he found God or some such shit. Even Chris Davenport is saying it’s the best fucking ever skiing down there right now.

Top ten days of all time for me at @skiportillo today during #superstarscamp ??? @jessejhoffman @… https://t.co/7zyIgEEZHz

— chris davenport (@SteepSkiing) August 11, 2015

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