The Littlest Republicans Debate
Not kidding around
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Charles Johnson,
Well they sound like they’re about as smart as the real GOP candidates!
re: #3 teleskiguy
Except for Rand Paul.
I dunno. That kid really captured the inner Rand. His performance was nuanced…as nuanced as the real Rand. /
What the iPhone Would Look Like if it Had Been Created in 1987 — http://t.co/Z0Xo0juW1x pic.twitter.com/PMY8V4BvtE
— Mental Floss (@mental_floss) August 16, 2015
re: #6 teleskiguy
Why would it have a dial? That’s just silly.
re: #9 Varek Raith
The silly thing is that a dial would be more difficult to incorporate in it than a simple keypad, which was commonly available at the time.
I do think it’s clever, but the artist had a good idea but executed it badly. The screen could easily have been a red LED display.
re: #11 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
I do think it’s clever, but the artist had a good idea but executed it badly. The screen could easily have been a red LED display.
Yeah, I think people forget that while antiquated by today’s standards, 1997 wasn’t freakin’ 1987.
This leads me to a digression:
Frederick Forsythe once wrote a short novel called “The Phantom of Manhattan”. It was intended as a sequel to The Phantom of the Opera. It was an ok story, but the most fascinating thing about it, and one of the most fascinating things I’ve ever read, was the introduction. He wrote about the development of The Phantom of the Opera, from its origin as a short story in a magazine (I think) to its development into a movie and the Broadway show.
What makes this digression relevant is that Forsythe said the original Phantom was a brilliant premise but a terribly executed story. It was the premise, of a disfigured hermit living in the bowels of the Paris Opera House, that made it so intriguing and tempting for other writers to have a go at it.
In a similar vein, I might suggest that all those great Bob Dylan covers are artists having their go at bad Dylan songs (with great basics) and making them into good records.
The 1987 phone needs a bigger battery case, and probably a telescoping antenna.
I have to get cable. This streaming garbage is beyond awful.
re: #16 Chan Kobun
I have to get cable. This streaming garbage is beyond awful.
I have 1000 channels and I’m watching women’s gymnastics because there’s nothing on. Reruns, reality bullshit, When Ghosts Attack.
On a positive note, this American chick, who’s 4’5” tops, is fucking amazing. I don’t remember her from Sochi (the Olympics being the only time I usually watch sports - other than my beloved curling, eh?) but holy cow. She’s freaking awesome.
Hot day.
Hot night.
RECORD REPORT
SXUS76 KSGX 160047
RERSGX
RECORD EVENT REPORT...FINAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
530 PM PDT SAT AUG 15 2015
...HIGHEST MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE RECORDS BROKEN OR TIED ON AUG 15 2015 ...
LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
RAMONA 103 100 IN 1977 1974
RIVERSIDE 108 105 IN 1994 1893
PALM SPRINGS 118 TIED 118 IN 1992 1893
THERMAL 116 114 IN 1962 1950
ALPINE 103 98 IN 1966 1951
EL CAJON 103 98 IN 1992 1979
PALOMAR MOUNTAIN 92 TIED 92 IN 1996 1901
CAMPO 106 104 IN 1962 1948
INDIO 115 113 IN 2011 1894
...HIGHEST MINIMUM TEMPERATURE RECORDS BROKEN OR TIED ON AUG 15 2015 ...
LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
PALM SPRINGS 87 86 IN 2012 1893
THERMAL 85 TIED 85 IN 1992 1950
INDIO 93 88 IN 2012 1894
BORREGO 86 85 IN 1996 1942
120 year old records dropping like thirsty, heat stroke flies.
re: #19 freetoken
Temperatures at 4 p.m. in the Sonoran Desert today.
You think it's hot where UR at? RT @NWSPhoenix: Temperatures at 4PM across the Sonoran Desert in CA/AZ. #azwx #cawx pic.twitter.com/cuniSrOdYY
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 15, 2015
re: #17 WhatEVs
In that case, go turn it to Cartoon Network and give Toonami some damn rep.
re: #19 freetoken
If you get a few minutes go check the record highs and lows for your town. I did it for Philadelphia and found that half of the days of the year have record highs posted since 1990. Conversely, there are only 8 record lows posted since 1990. One would expect that they should be about even.
How warm is it right now? I surfed Half Moon Bay today without a wetsuit (water is 66.7 degrees - about 8 degrees above normal)
re: #20 teleskiguy
Hell Centro is one of the worst places I’ve ever been in my life. I was there for 7 days for work. Not once was it below 102 (at night), and I got to experience a 5.8 earthquake. I had PTSD for four weeks. I kept it together while I was working, but as soon as I left, I couldn’t stop crying. I cried almost 24/7 for a month . I was freaked out.
The day I left, it was 114. I drive to San Diego to fly home…it was 74 there.
I never want to go back there again.
re: #23 darthstar
How warm is it right now? I surfed Half Moon Bay today without a wetsuit (water is 66.7 degrees - about 8 degrees above normal)
Speaking of which:
Fiorina, Cruz and Walker respond to Jerry Brown on climate change
California Gov. Jerry Brown, blaming climate change for hot weather that has exacerbated the state’s historic drought, has pressed Republican presidential candidates in recent weeks to address the issue in their campaigns, first scolding them in a letter and then telling reporters, “My message is real clear: California’s burning. What the hell are you going to do about it?”
On Saturday, a rejoinder.
Asked about Brown’s prodding, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas said at a gathering of Republican activists that the climate has been changing forever and that “global warming alarmists” are perhaps “just interested politically in more power over the economy and our lives.”
Carly Fiorina, the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard Co. […] said it “may well be true” that climate change has worsened effects of the drought. Like many Republicans, however, she blamed environmentalists and their Democratic allies for blocking the construction of dams in the state.
“California has had droughts for millennia,” Fiorina told The Bee. […]
The issue of climate change played little role in the presidential race in 2012, and it has not emerged as a distinguishing issue this year, with a field of Republican candidates expressing a range of skepticism.
[…]
Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, said, “I think radical environmental policies that stop things like dams from going in so that water … can be used effectively is something we should be talking about.”
This you-have-a-draught-because-the-environmentalist’s-stop-dams meme has been pushed hard the past few weeks in various wingnut media outlets. I don’t know who wrote the memo that is being circulated amongst the campaigns, but it’s not a coincidence that several candidates are saying the same thing.
re: #21 Chan Kobun
In that case, go turn it to Cartoon Network and give Toonami some damn rep.
Squidbillies. No Toonami.
re: #25 darthstar
How do you surf and not lose your hat??
Hey ya’ll, I’m back from seeing Man From U.N.C.L.E.
I liked it a lot. Excellent cinematography & editing. Story, well….
(very hot men too)
re: #32 teleskiguy
Shot with a BroPro?
Nah…I just have a waterproof quickshot camera with a lanyard so I can throw it over my head.
Here’s a pic of my beautiful wife…partially blocked by my locally made board.
I do like the “BroPro” thing though. I applied for a job with GoPro - they said I didn’t match their skillset profile…I fuckin’ surf and I’m a fuckin’ ski patroller…and I mountain bike and road bike. What the fuck do I not do?
Too bad, because they had their offices here in Half Moon Bay…I could have biked to work.
re: #30 Pawn of the Oppressor
How do you surf and not lose your hat??
I lost it a couple of times…but I found it each time.
re: #35 darthstar
Here’s a pic of my beautiful wife…partially blocked by my locally made board.
Nice!
I procured my first-ever locally produced skis last year. Probably the best pair of skis I’ve ever bought. Wagner Custom out of Placerville, CO (just outside of Telluride).
My Wagner Custom skis are freeheel skis now! It's like being a kid in the coolest toy store ever. pic.twitter.com/wckfUaC1jh
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 3, 2014
Traditional camber, early-rise tip, dimensions 133-88-116, with burly all-metal telemark bindings.
Speaking of repeating memes, National Racists Online are pushing this one again:
Planned Parenthood and the Eugenics Movement
And just for good fortune the author throws this in:
[…]
For people of faith, the problem is not science, but scientism: the belief that science can explain every facet of human existence from Nature itself.
[…]
This bugaboo about “scientism” is becoming increasingly dominant among those authors who would like to think of themselves as thinking conservative Christians. Everyone from Biologos to, as seen above, writers in religious right outlets, keep holding up “scientism” as some spectre menacing mankind.
But if you read what they are saying closely, “scientism” is just a synonym for “not believing in magical god”.
It’s just the same old teleological argument re-wrapped in new paper.
re: #39 teleskiguy
Nice!
I procured my first-ever locally produced skis last year. Probably the best pair of skis I’ve ever bought. Wagner Custom out of Placerville, CO (just outside of Telluride).
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Traditional camber, early-rise tip, dimensions 133-88-116, with burly all-metal telemark bindings.
133 in the tip and only 88 under foot? Those would be nice for carving up wind-blown hard pack.
re: #40 freetoken
Scientism is their answer to Truthiness.
re: #41 darthstar
133 in the tip and only 88 under foot? Those would be nice for carving up wind-blown hard pack.
They do well is a wide variety of conditions. It’s about as close as I’ve come to in terms of finding a “one-ski-quiver” though on the deeper days a little more width and a little more rocker in the tips and tails could help some.
Fortunately for the deepest days I have some 189 K2 Hellbents! Here’s me attached to those fuckers a couple of years ago.
Me clampers R brokin.!
Well, Hell! SyFy is going to bring out adaptations of Fred Pohl’s Gateway and Dan Simmons’ Hyperion. One can only imagine how they’re going to fuck them up. How I kept from blowing up my TV after Riverworld is a question for the ages….
re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Well, Hell! SyFy is going to bring out adaptations of Fred Pohl’s Gateway and Dan Simmons’ Hyperion. One can only imagine how they’re going to fuck them up. How I kept from blowing up my TV after Riverworld is a question for the ages….
You must not speak that which can not be spoken!
re: #46 teleskiguy
I still have one of those.
Mario 64 is the shit.
:)
re: #46 teleskiguy
Still have mine and the two-dozen-plus games I’be managed to scrape up for it. Sadly, I’m short a couple of the more expensive games that I want, and thanks to retro YouTubers, the market is pretty much fucked.
re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Weren’t there two attempts to bring Riverworld to TV? I remember watching both adaptations.
Here’s the problem for SyFy or any other cable network wanting to be bring high quality science fiction to the small screen - small audiences.
SyFy has trouble reaching a million viewers for any show, other than Smackdown!
The viewing audience for such material is just too fractured among too many entertainment outlets.
SyFy’s current offering of Dark Matter I find kind of boring and very repetitious of old ideas. It doesn’t get particularly good ratings.
The major networks still offer up some fantasy shows based around vampires/mythical creatures, but everytime I start to watch them I feel too old, as if the target audience really is the teenagers coming-of-age.
re: #47 Varek Raith
I still have one of those.
Mario 64 is the shit.
:)
I loved Golden Eye, Duke Nuke ‘Em 3D, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 were also outstanding.
I don’t “game” anymore. For me, GTA was the crux of the biscuit, I thought to myself ‘It can’t get *any* better than this.’ And I played the original GTA on PC (I stayed up all night in middle school playing Doom). My youngest sister, however…well, she’s the custodian of all the old consoles and cartridges/CD-ROMs. It’s fun to visit her place, I find myself playing Super Metroid on SNES every time I visit. I do believe she’s still saving a game for me that I started years ago (I think I haven’t got the Gravity Suit yet, I haven’t played it since last Christmas).
HBO and Showtime have been offering up a couple of shows per year for the adult audience, and I guess we should be glad for those, as they are better, IMO, than many of the TV shows over the commercial networks the past 40 years or so.
re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
One day I hope to see HBO bring Glen Cook’s The Black Company to life, that would be epic imho
re: #40 freetoken
Speaking of repeating memes, National Racists Online are pushing this one again:
Planned Parenthood and the Eugenics Movement
And just for good fortune the author throws this in:
This bugaboo about “scientism” is becoming increasingly dominant among those authors who would like to think of themselves as thinking conservative Christians. Everyone from Biologos to, as seen above, writers in religious right outlets, keep holding up “scientism” as some spectre menacing mankind.
But if you read what they are saying closely, “scientism” is just a synonym for “not believing in magical god”.
It’s just the same old teleological argument re-wrapped in new paper.
yeah, yet another fake belief put into other people’s mouths
I’ve been watching TV since I was little, which means I watched lots of black and white TV using rabbit-ears.
I think the recent series like Breaking Bad and Fargo have been high-water marks in American TV serial fiction.
A long time ago, when Roots was put on TV, it impressed me too. It was also a watermark for bringing historical fiction to the American small screen.
Before that we have to go back to Attenborough’s BBC and the pioneering documentaries they produced, to get to what I consider real turning points in small-screen production and impact upon society.
Mostly television programming has been a wasteland, but there have been times when talented parties have produced some very high quality art and informative programming.
Still, today, I think the weak spot in American television is the “news” program, as we’ve clearly given up on the idea of objective journalism being a viable product.
re: #54 freetoken
Breaking Bad is my favorite TV art out there. Stunning stuff. Darkly funny, shed light on drugs and drug distribution in the American southwest, a Shakespearian rise-and-fall story, hella interesting characters, satire, absurdity. Breaking Bad is a sort of complete package for me.
re: #54 freetoken
well I think it has a lot to do with the genre….
As far as serial TV goes, I think you’d be hard pressed to do any better than The Wire imho, but there are other elements that have hit consistently high marks, say for the sitcoms Cheers really stands out and once upon a time, 60 Minutes used to be really good television. I really think it’s more of a ymmv kind of thing, I find myself fascinated by the most unlikely things. For example, I used to really enjoy the HGTV show Curb Appeal and for guilty pleasures, there was the X Files and Twin Peaks , simply because the acting, writing and cinematography was so awesome. Maybe the best series that nobody here in the states has seen is MI-5 or Spooks done by BBC (also thought last year’s Broadchurch was pretty good too.
re: #43 teleskiguy
They do well is a wide variety of conditions. It’s about as close as I’ve come to in terms of finding a “one-ski-quiver” though on the deeper days a little more width and a little more rocker in the tips and tails could help some.
Fortunately for the deepest days I have some 189 K2 Hellbents! Here’s me attached to those fuckers a couple of years ago.
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Free-heeling freak.
I guess I was lucky weather-wise, only 101 today. Tomorrow is supposed to be hotter. :(
Up here in the Northwoods, 90+/90+, (temp/humidity) is bad enough.
re: #58 Single-handed sailor
I guess I was lucky weather-wise, only 101 today. Tomorrow is supposed to be hotter. :(
The coast was crowded with heat refugees today…And it was 78 fucking degrees here! 104+ in Livermore, 45 minutes away, so I shouldn’t bitch…but I hate all those conservatives coming here and bitching about the traffic…why don’t they put in more lanes? Fuck you. We only need two lanes, thank you very much.
/rant off
re: #60 darthstar
The coast was crowded with heat refugees today…And it was 78 fucking degrees here! 104+ in Livermore, 45 minutes away, so I shouldn’t bitch…but I hate all those conservatives coming here and bitching about the traffic…why don’t they put in more lanes? Fuck you. We only need two lanes, thank you very much.
/rant off
In case it wasn’t obvious…I’m one of the nicest people towards tourists you could imagine. I really am. I take their pics for them, give them directions (the fastest fucking way home for you is THAT WAY!), tell them which local restaurants they should try…I’m a fuckin’ ambassador for my community.
re: #58 Single-handed sailor
I guess I was lucky weather-wise, only 101 today. Tomorrow is supposed to be hotter. :(
I’ve taken 2 showers today. Was out there in the major heat. My car that sat in the sun registered 120. wha
re: #61 darthstar
In case it wasn’t obvious…I’m one of the nicest people towards tourists you could imagine. I really am. I take their pics for them, give them directions (the fastest fucking way home for you is THAT WAY!), tell them which local restaurants they should try…I’m a fuckin’ ambassador for my community.
Me fuckin’ too! +1
Oh, yeah…had a bunch of 20 year old Pappy Van Winkle tonight…that shit’s good.
— Bryan (@MurderBryan) August 16, 2015
@MurderBryan You call yourself a 'bro'…intentionally…twice. Why would I friend you in the first place?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 16, 2015
re: #60 darthstar
The coast was crowded with heat refugees today…And it was 78 fucking degrees here! 104+ in Livermore, 45 minutes away, so I shouldn’t bitch…but I hate all those conservatives coming here and bitching about the traffic…why don’t they put in more lanes? Fuck you. We only need two lanes, thank you very much.
/rant off
yeah, I’m near Mt Diablo but on the other side.
I want Shiplord Kirel’s opinion. This picture made my jaw drop.
Largest non-nuclear explosion? Surpasses Texas City? RT @fryan: The #TianjinBlast crater. http://t.co/YQ2QWRuivy pic.twitter.com/aeJxr2qlpE
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 16, 2015
re: #25 darthstar
Another really interesting picture of darthstar. He posted another one last March or so where he played victim for a Ski Patrol training session. They strapped his ass in a sled with a neck brace, traction, fuckin’ whatever, and the rookies hauled darthstar’s immobilized ass down the mountain. All so the rook ski patrol guys will maybe know what it’s like IRL.
darthstar,
#NowPlaying Albert Collins > Love Can Be Found Anywhere (Even In A Guitar) > Whatcha Say (I Don't Know) http://t.co/jrKzJj6CTd
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 16, 2015
re: #65 darthstar
It’s not about the symbols themselves but the setting, manner and intention with which they are displayed.
Context, how does it work?
re: #70 freetoken
I know this song! I first heard it very young, watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit in the cinema with mom and dad and sister. Jessica Rabbit. freetoken, you magnificent bastard!
re: #37 WhatEVs
Operatic-Pop? That’s a new music genre to me.
Meaning might have changed, but that used to include Rick Wakeman, Tangerine Dream. Meatloaf was (accusingly) described as operatic. Tommy, The Wall, JC Superstar, and even Hair could be seen that way.
Julian Bond has died. His life mattered.
re: #77 Decatur Deb
A wonderful human being is no longer with us. RIP. U.S. civil rights leader Julian Bond dies at 75 http://t.co/prIKLof2AK via @Reuters
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 16, 2015
Thank you for making me know Julian Bond. LGF is good stuff.
You can’t make that stuff up.
Some Russian national-patriots attacked the Russian Kafka & Orwell Forum (yes, that’s how it’s called).
Times Square kiss: Couples recreate iconic scene on VJ Day anniversary
So, would you say this was actually sexual assault?
re: #40 freetoken
Speaking of repeating memes, National Racists Online are pushing this one again:
Planned Parenthood and the Eugenics Movement
And just for good fortune the author throws this in:
This bugaboo about “scientism” is becoming increasingly dominant among those authors who would like to think of themselves as thinking conservative Christians. Everyone from Biologos to, as seen above, writers in religious right outlets, keep holding up “scientism” as some spectre menacing mankind.
But if you read what they are saying closely, “scientism” is just a synonym for “not believing in magical god”.
It’s just the same old teleological argument re-wrapped in new paper.
I had to grit my teeth listening to Michael Steele explain to someone on Steele and Ungar and socialism was where the government controlled the means of production (this in regards to Bernie Sanders). How do you become a fucking political pundit without being able to pass the first two weeks of an introductory political science course?
re: #81 Nyet
Times Square kiss: Couples recreate iconic scene on VJ Day anniversary
So, would you say this was actually sexual assault?
Not enough information. But this is if one of them had a couple drinks.
re: #84 Decatur Deb
That will be Mrs JadeHelmCurious and me in about 40 years.
re: #84 Decatur Deb
Not enough information.
I would say quite enough. They were strangers and he did it without permission.
re: #86 Nyet
I would say quite enough. They were strangers and he did it without permission.
That claim has been challenged. The article says they are not formally identified. Statute of Limitations has probably run out anyway.
re: #86 Nyet
I would say quite enough. They were strangers and he did it without permission.
He could pleat mitigating circumstances, like Newt Gingrich did: excessive passion for his country.
good morning everyone!
#recap How a basket of kittens can spiral dramatically out of control http://t.co/VswNya96Ay pic.twitter.com/W0Wn3RrW1u
— The Poke (@ThePoke) August 16, 2015
re: #82 JadeHelmCurious
Bookmarked!
A useful guide in those games of ‘spot the talking point.’
re: #87 Decatur Deb
That claim has been challenged. The article says they are not formally identified.
Oh, they have been.
re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
He could pleat mitigating circumstances, like Newt Gingrich did: excessive passion for his country.
It’s not about who can plead what.
Is that sexual assault or not?
re: #92 Nyet
It’s not about who can plead what.
Is that sexual assault or not?
by modern enlightened standards, yes
heh
I'm always amazed when people say they were born in 1989 since that means people who wore the clothes of that era had sex with each other.
— Tom Cox (@cox_tom) August 16, 2015
re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
So I would say, it’s time people stopped celebrating that photo…
re: #95 Nyet
So I would say, it’s time people stopped celebrating that photo…
then there are lots of things we should stop celebrating…
re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
then there are lots of things we should stop celebrating…
Certainly.
re: #91 Nyet
Oh, they have been.
That’s a claim. (In truth, the best supporting detail is the fact that the “nurse” is a dental assistant. No 1940s nurse was going about kissing strangers in public WITHOUT HER HAT.)
re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Let’s start with Christmas!!!
Birth of a baby is hardly a crime.
re: #95 Nyet
So I would say, it’s time people stopped celebrating that photo…
Yet it strikes a human chord.
I would say it’s time people stopped being tight-assed.
re: #101 Nyet
Birth of a baby is hardly a crime.
he was illegitimate for starters, and grew up to be a troublemaker
re: #101 Nyet
Birth of a baby is hardly a crime.
Illegitimate birth was criminalized in America, and carried ecclesiastical sanctions in the Church.
re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
he was illegitimate for starters, and grew up to be a troublemaker
Fucking felon, IIRC.
re: #107 Nyet
Which sorta has nothing to do with what I wrote…
It speaks to the time-and-culture bound nature of what is defined as a crime.
re: #108 Decatur Deb
Fucking felon, IIRC.
If an illegitimate child named Jesus tried to cross the Mexico/Arizona border, Sheriff Joe would have no choice but to intern him and his whole family…
re: #109 Decatur Deb
It speaks to the time-and-culure bound nature of what is defined as a crime.
Which is again not quite relevant to what I wrote…
re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
If an illegitimate child named Jesus tried to cross the Mexico/Arizona border, Sheriff Joe would have no choice but to intern him and his whole family…
And the ass they rode in on.
re: #111 Nyet
Which is again not quite relevant to what I wrote…
Totally relevant, especially if we’re doing paleo-criminology. Interestingly, mattress girl would insist it is a crime, but Sister Mary Claver would not have called it a sin.
O tempora, O mores.
re: #113 Decatur Deb
Totally relevant, especially if we’re doing paleo-criminology. Interestingly, mattress girl would insist it is a crime, but Sister Mary Claver would not have called it a sin.
O tempora, O mores.
I like tempura
re: #81 Nyet
Times Square kiss: Couples recreate iconic scene on VJ Day anniversary
So, would you say this was actually sexual assault?
Definitely. Consider:
Her head, neck & back are bent way back, very uncomfortable position, downright painful
His arms a squeezing her body
She is not hugging him back
She is limp
re: #116 The Vicious Babushka
Definitely. Consider:
Her head, neck & back are bent way back, very uncomfortable position, downright painful
His arms a squeezing her body
She is not hugging him back
She is limp
We should put it to a jury of his peers, except that they’re all dead or have a note from their doctors.
re: #117 Decatur Deb
We should put it to a jury of his peers, except that they’re all dead or have a note from their doctors.
She would have said “Stop! You’re hurting me!” except he was mashing her mouth with his slobbery lips.
re: #118 The Vicious Babushka
She would have said “Stop! You’re hurting me!” except he was mashing her mouth with his slobbery lips.
The reaction of the front-runner for “nurse” is in Sergey’s article.
re: #119 Decatur Deb
The reaction of the front-runner for “nurse” is in Sergey’s article.
“I did not see him approaching, and before I know it, I was in this vice grip!” Greta says.
“You don’t forget this guy grabbing you!” she remarked.
re: #120 The Vicious Babushka
“I did not see him approaching, and before I know it, I was in this vice grip!” Greta says.
“You don’t forget this guy grabbing you!” she remarked.
So there’s a huge (cheesy) statue to sexual assault in Times Square. Lets go picket it, you for feminism, and me for art.
re: #113 Decatur Deb
Totally relevant
Not really, unless you want to excuse slavery by pointing out that it used to be legal and was considered OK.
O tempora, O mores.
God forbid somebody calls a forced and non-consensual putting of tongue in someone else’s mouth a sexual assault. What have we come to! Fucking libtards.
(That is, unless, the tongue belongs to a big “bear” who kisses you against your wishes. Then it’s totally inappropriate.)
/
No more Amazon for me.
That place is fucking cruel to their people.
re: #122 Nyet
Not really, unless you want to excuse slavery by pointing out that it used to be legal and was considered OK.
God forbid somebody calls a forced and non-consensual putting of tongue in someone else’s mouth a sexual assault. What have we come to! Fucking libtards.
(That is, unless, the tongue belongs to a big “bear” who kisses you against your wishes. Then it’s totally inappropriate.)
/
Are you serious about this? You know what was going down the rat line in Italy while he was doing this.
re: #119 Decatur Deb
The reaction of the front-runner for “nurse” is in Sergey’s article.
1. The reaction is irrelevant to the classification of it as a sexual assault. The factual side is relevant. Both parties acknowledge it was not consensual.
2. We don’t know the actual reaction then or now (i.e. what’s in her head). Social pressure and all that stuff. If it is considered normal, then the one complaining is a freak and a party pooper.
re: #124 Decatur Deb
I’m not sure what this has to do with the price of tea in China.
Wingnuts are still spamming this old atrocity photo from Syria as HURR HURR BENGHAZI!!!11!!!!
@HillaryClinton learns lesson: NO ROPES: http://t.co/bdVhJNhqKv @dscc #pjnet #tcot #uniteblue @cnn #msnbc @gop #tgdn pic.twitter.com/IuagvCrb3B
— Pro-Life 5-Speed (@tnrockymom) August 16, 2015
re: #125 Nyet
1. The reaction is irrelevant to the classification of it as a sexual assault. The factual side is relevant. Both parties acknowledge it was not consensual.
2. We don’t know the actual reaction then or now (i.e. what’s in her heard). Social pressure and all that stuff. If it is considered normal, then the one complaining is a freak and a party pooper.
If she was offended, the manners of the time gave her an appropriate response—a slap in the face. It would have been quite safe in public and in front of his wife-to-be.
re: #126 Nyet
I’m not sure what this has to do with the price of tea in China.
Scale and perspective. Outrage is a precious commodity.
re: #123 Dave In Austin
What makes you say that?
re: #121 Decatur Deb
So there’s a huge (cheesy) statue to sexual assault in Times Square.
That’s the thing.
re: #128 Decatur Deb
If she was offended, the manners of the time gave her an appropriate response—a slap in the face. It would have been quite safe in public and in front of his wife-to-be.
Considering the general jubilation at that event, the normal conventions of the time all went out the window.
Looking back on it now from our view 70 years later, I think “wow that must have been uncomfortable for her and she doesn’t look like she was into it like that guy was”
re: #128 Decatur Deb
If she was offended, the manners of the time gave her an appropriate response—a slap in the face. It would have been quite safe in public and in front of his wife-to-be.
Which is trying to change the topic to how she interpreted this from what actually happened.
re: #130 PhillyPretzel
What makes you say that?
THE STRESS TEST: Amazon Pushes Workers To Their Limits
nytimes.com
re: #134 Decatur Deb
Google is a friend to all of us.
re: #133 The Vicious Babushka
Considering the general jubilation at that event, the normal conventions of the time all went out the window.
Looking back on it now from our view 70 years later, I think “wow that must have been uncomfortable for her and she doesn’t look like she was into it like that guy was”
I think that she, like he, was there for one thing—to express boundless human joy at the end of a murderous, endless war. If I ever find myself in a public square celebrating the end of WWIII, I promise to get a signed consent form before any untoward kissing.
re: #83 steve_davis
I had to grit my teeth listening to Michael Steele explain to someone on Steele and Ungar and socialism was where the government controlled the means of production (this in regards to Bernie Sanders). How do you become a fucking political pundit without being able to pass the first two weeks of an introductory political science course?
Heh. I sort of liked Michael Steele’s commentary a few years ago. That would be right after he was no longer Chairman of the GOP. I don’t know if he was pissed at them or what, but he gave realistic opinions on GOP politics.
Sometime in late 2011 he must have gotten a check, or was read the riot act by the party because since that time he shovels the bull with the best of them. Sometimes to the point of absurdity. Now he is as nuts as the rest of them. The only saving grace is he often times he seems to know it is pure BS as he has a little telling smile as he shovels.
Late walking the dog. I’ll get his opinion on the human bent toward fanatical puritanism.
re: #136 Dave In Austin
I understand what you are saying. Keep in mind most companies do this to varying degrees. I work for a group that just changed most of its mid level managers. Now not only do I have to do my job but I have to explain it to folks who have never done it. For example one of the new mid level managers wants to know why there is not more activity around two major universities. He still does not understand that when colleges are in summer sessions there are fewer people around.
re: #127 The Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts are still spamming this old atrocity photo from Syria as HURR HURR BENGHAZI!!!11!!!!
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In reality, Ambassador Stevens died of smoke inhalation, and was not tortured or sodomized at all. He was still murdered by Radical Islamists, since they set the fire that killed him, but he was not tortured by those assholes.
re: #141 Decatur Deb
Lincoln was a white supremacist and a white separatist, i.e. a man of his time.
I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution in the States where it exists. I believe I have no right to do so. I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is a physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together on the footing of perfect equality; and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.
Is that a reason to condemn him or take his image off banknotes? Obviously not.
But now imagine that someone wants exactly those words to be on a monument to Lincoln. I suppose those objecting might be seen as fanatical puritans by some. Others may point out that making inherently problematic things into positive symbols is itself problematic.
re: #40 freetoken
Speaking of repeating memes, National Racists Online are pushing this one again:
Planned Parenthood and the Eugenics Movement
And just for good fortune the author throws this in:
This bugaboo about “scientism” is becoming increasingly dominant among those authors who would like to think of themselves as thinking conservative Christians. Everyone from Biologos to, as seen above, writers in religious right outlets, keep holding up “scientism” as some spectre menacing mankind.
But if you read what they are saying closely, “scientism” is just a synonym for “not believing in magical god”.
It’s just the same old teleological argument re-wrapped in new paper.
As we argued last week with SteveMcGaziBolaGate, these Christians believe that “we believe there is no god” not “we don’t believe there is a god.”
Edited: Found the right name: SteveMcGaziBolaGate.
re: #144 Nyet
Lincoln was a white supremacist and a white separatist, i.e. a man of his time.
Is that a reason to condemn him or take his image off banknotes? Obviously not.
But now imagine that someone wants exactly those words to be on a monument to Lincoln. I suppose those objecting might be seen as fanatical puritans by some. Others may point out that making inherently problematic things into positive symbols is itself problematic.
And he goes on to say:
“I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence,—the right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas that he is not my equal in many respects, certainly not in color, perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments; but in the right to eat the bread without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal, and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every other man.”
Unqualifiedly inequal in color only.
love this internet website http://t.co/PKm8vQ6who pic.twitter.com/VuIAjhjrfI
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) August 16, 2015
re: #146 Snarknado!
“I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races.”
It’s just one quote out of many, too. He wanted the races to live separately, hence white separatist.
“I have said that the separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation.”
Attack number three here in Sweden… sverigesradio.se
re: #144 Nyet
From another speech:
While I was at the hotel to-day, an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. While I had not proposed to myself on this occasion to say much on that subject, yet as the question was asked me I thought I would occupy perhaps five minutes in saying something in regard to it. I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the black and white races — that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making VOTERS or jurors of negroes, NOR OF QUALIFYING THEM HOLD OFFICE, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any of her man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
re: #19 freetoken
Hot day.
Hot night.
120 year old records dropping like thirsty, heat stroke flies.
A relatively mild 121 degrees expected at Furnace Creek in D.V.N.P. today. Was there last summer when the high temp topped out at 129. The all-time high is 134. Going outside was simply brutal. You couldn’t walk on the pavement. Being bareheaded outside for just minutes put you at risk of heat stroke.
re: #148 Nyet
“I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races.”
It’s just one quote out of many, too. He wanted the races to live separately, hence white separatist.
“I have said that the separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation.”
My (much abridged) copy of Lincoln’s speeches and writings runs to 1500 pages. Not playing the game of “single sentences lifted out of context.”
re: #152 Snarknado!
My (much abridged) copy of Lincoln’s speeches and writings runs to 1500 pages. Not playing the game of “single sentences lifted out of context.”
I was kind of wondering if this week’s discussion was over who among us is a saint. Of which I get reminded of Jesus destroying a fig tree.
Heh, local political news show is doing some coverage on Kasich. Guess what…Kasich wants to make sure “the wall is finished.”
The Trump effect.
re: #152 Snarknado!
My (much abridged) copy of Lincoln’s speeches and writings runs to 1500 pages. Not playing the game of “single sentences lifted out of context.”
Nobody is playing that game here.
re: #150 Nyet
And yet he was talking about getting voting rights for “them” not long before he was assassinated.
Okay, that’s it. I don’t have time or inclination to go quote-mining on such a nice (actually hot and sticky) day.
re: #156 Nyet
Nobody is playing that game here.
Says the man who (#148) gave us two sentences lifted from the writings and left out the qualification from the Lincoln-Douglas quote (#144).
re: #157 Snarknado!
And yet he was talking about getting voting rights for “them” not long before he was assassinated.
Okay, that’s it. I don’t have time or inclination to go quote-mining on such a nice (actually hot and sticky) day.
I’m not sure what your point is, or how it relates to my point. Lincoln’s white supremacist and white separatist views (he favored resettling blacks outside the US as late as 1863) are a matter of record. Making that part of the record into a positive symbol would have been outrageous.
Rand’s numbers look pretty anemic I agree…but Rubio’s debate bounce is also palpable (like a jellyfish on the beach).
my oh my http://t.co/AeD1I1gg1s pic.twitter.com/IoVmRcAssx
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) August 16, 2015
re: #159 Snarknado!
Says the man who (#148) gave us two sentences lifted from the writings and left out the qualification from the Lincoln-Douglas quote (#144).
The sentences are not lifted out of context, and the qualification of the Lincoln quote does not change the sense of the cited quotes. Try better next time.
Back from the dogwalk.
He says “Y’all are fucked up. (He’s a southern dog.) You can’t seem to grasp that the only thing separating you from me is a couple genes, a good barber, and that weird thing you do with your back legs. I blame fucking Ardipithecus.”
— Bloom County 2015 (@bloomcounty) August 16, 2015
re: #164 darthstar
Me: goodnight kids Kids: goodnight dad Me: goodnight monster that eats children who are bad Wife: [through radio under the bed] GOODNIGHT
— Nathan Usher (@thenatewolf) August 15, 2015
Let the Sunday pundit fallatio of the GOP begin.
re: #157 Snarknado!
And yet he was talking about getting voting rights for “them” not long before he was assassinated.
Okay, that’s it. I don’t have time or inclination to go quote-mining on such a nice (actually hot and sticky) day.
As the war went on, and Union troops got 1) a closer view of how slavery really was on the plantations, and 2) a closer view of how Colored Troops fought, they changed their minds about what black people deserved. A lot of unionists who didn’t especially care about slavery/abolition either way in 1861, became ardent abolitionists by 1864/1865.
Chris Wallace invoked Watergate when discussing Sec. Clinton's use of email. What Watergate actually entailed: pic.twitter.com/FI3hJqORww
— Media Matters (@mmfa) August 16, 2015
Lre: #167 sagehen
As the war went on, and Union troops got 1) a closer view of how slavery really was on the plantations, and 2) a closer view of how Colored Troops fought, they changed their minds about what black people deserved. A lot of unionists who didn’t especially care about slavery/abolition either way in 1861, became ardent abolitionists by 1864/1865.
Flip-floppers of the 19th century.
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re: #136 Dave In Austin
THE STRESS TEST: Amazon Pushes Workers To Their Limits
nytimes.com
That is utterly horrific.
re: #167 sagehen
As the war went on, and Union troops got 1) a closer view of how slavery really was on the plantations, and 2) a closer view of how Colored Troops fought, they changed their minds about what black people deserved. A lot of unionists who didn’t especially care about slavery/abolition either way in 1861, became ardent abolitionists by 1864/1865.
True. And Lincoln evolved in his views too, esp. after his resettlement plans failed.
Which does not mean we can erase the record, as some apparently want to, and say he never advocated for white supremacy (when he very explicitly did) and racial separation (ditto). It’s also a part of his record. And it would be problematic if some people saw this part of his record as worthy of praise, and not the other things he accomplished.
re: #166 Amory Blaine
Let the Sunday pundit fallatio of the GOP begin.
Meet The Chuck is deep throating The Donald big time. Seems the whole show may be about him. They are discussing how it appears he is turning into a political candidate now and becoming more nuanced in his statements. One of the panelists says that may turn out to be unattractive to the people that like the blurt-it-out version.
I am amazed that from the time he announced to now he has become as big in the political world as he has. And everyone thought he was a joke and would be gone by now. I really do not know what to think about him right now. All bets are off.
re: #171 The Vicious Babushka
Why should white-collar workers be treated any differently than blue-collar ones? Speaking as a white-collar worker, this may be the only way some of my coworkers learn about the need for workers to stand together.
re: #171 The Vicious Babushka
I’m done.
(Golden Rule applies here, at least for me.)
All respect for JB just went out the window.
re: #174 Belafon
I saw this quote:
“The joke in the office was that when it came to work/life balance, work came first, life came second, and trying to find the balance came last.”
That described my previous job, where there were only about 140 employees. That’s a pretty good job description of a lot of small companies. I would: wake up, program; go to work, program; go home, program. When I was hired, I explicitly told them I was going to college, then they hired a new boss who thought that outside distractions were interfering.
Most people don’t want to do that kind of work. I study programming when I get home, but I don’t want my work dictating what I study or work on.
re: #174 Belafon
Why should white-collar workers be treated any differently than blue-collar ones? Speaking as a white-collar worker, this may be the only way some of my coworkers learn about the need for workers to stand together.
I work at a company that is very union-oriented. Salaried, professional employees do not belong to a union but many come from a union background so we enjoy the same benefits and working conditions that unions fought for.
re: #177 The Vicious Babushka
I work at a company that is very union-oriented. Salaried, professional employees do not belong to a union but many come from a union background so we enjoy the same benefits and working conditions that unions fought for.
I currently work at a defense contractor here in Texas. Part of the company is unionized, but the part I’m in is not. Most of the people at my end are conservative, and talk about how bad government and unions are without a shred of self-awareness at the benefits they are getting from both groups.
I like telling RWNJ professionals how I can’t wait for imported labor to lower their excessive wages that they feel entitled to.
The sad part of the Amazon story is that their toxic work culture may actually be counterproductive. Making your warehouse employees run from place to place and literally throw things into a box to pack them may increase productivity (or not, but that is another issue.) I’m not sure that stressing your creative talent will do the same. You might get far better results by having them work collaboratively in the office and letting them have a little extra time off to ‘recharge.’
Cutthroat work environments are often popular with a certain type of boss, but I don’t think there is any long term evidence that they are particularly productive in the long run.
re: #171 The Vicious Babushka
That is utterly horrific.
It’s very much copied from the military, specifically the 14 Principles. Every general officer comes into a new command with some version of that, climaxing in Rummy’s Rules.
Rummy’s Rules (Cabinet level) in .pdf
re: #172 Nyet
True. And Lincoln evolved in his views too, esp. after his resettlement plans failed.
Which does not mean we can erase the record, as some apparently want to, and say he never advocated for white supremacy (when he very explicitly did) and racial separation (ditto). It’s also a part of his record. And it would be problematic if some people saw this part of his record as worthy of praise, and not the other things he accomplished.
And Justice Black was a KKK member. FACT!!!
(In his youth, anyway.)
re: #181 Decatur Deb
It’s very much copied from the military, specifically the 14 Principles. Every general officer comes into a new command with some version of that, climaxing in Rummy’s Rules.
Rummy’s Rules (Cabinet level) in .pdf
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Nothing like Rumsfeld to kill a thread.
BBL. Maybe I can accomplish something before the temperature reaches the predicted 102° here.
re: #183 calochortus
Nothing like Rumsfeld to kill a thread.
BBL. Maybe I can accomplish something before the temperature reaches the predicted 102° here.
Geez. Lower Alabama is only going to get 89.
Amazon is currently working to set up three different entities here in Columbus. It sounds like there will be two data centers and one shipping.
The shipping center makes sense because Columbus is already one of this country’s biggest shipping centers. So, we have all the support businesses for that. We have the airports and the highways to handle a large section of middle America.
Columbus, while maybe not known to a lot, is also a strong data/computing center. Why? Lots of federal government, Ohio State University and Battelle research (government research) and even some of the roots to the ‘net still linger around here. Compuserve was here.
With info coming out about how Amazon operates, I don’t know if this is a good thing for Columbus or bad.
re: #184 Decatur Deb
Geez. Lower Alabama is only going to get 89.
And they’re saying 85 here. So I won’t moan too much. Except that I don’t have air conditioning.
re: #185 ObserverArt
With info coming out about how Amazon operates, I don’t know if this is a good thing for Columbus or bad.
As I said above, it sounds a lot like the small companies I worked for.
Note: Now that I have hit publish, I’m not sure any more where I was going with that statement.
re: #186 Snarknado!
And they’re saying 85 here. So I won’t moan too much. Except that I don’t have air conditioning.
After a week of temps in the 33C range, I got up this morning to 16C. It’s like fall.
re: #187 Belafon
As I said above, it sounds a lot like the small companies I worked for.
“Grind your employees and maintain dissention among them” isn’t all that innovative.
re: #186 Snarknado!
109 here today with excessive heat warnings until 8pm… with a dose of humidity that will keep me mostly indoors today.
I have a house full of heat refugees taking shelter at Amory’s refrigerated facility. Ironically I’m at work where there is no ac today. Blech.
re: #188 b_sharp
After a week of temps in the 33C range, I got up this morning to 16C. It’s like fall.
Do you offer one-day shipping?
re: #192 Snarknado!
Do you offer one-day shipping?
I’m afraid that if I sent it down there the air would be stale by the time it got there.
re: #193 b_sharp
I’m afraid that if I sent it down there the air would be stale by the time it got there.
I agree to take it as-is.
re: #182 Snarknado!
And Justice Black was a KKK member. FACT!!!
(In his youth, anyway.)
And your point being? You’re not making much sense.
re: #195 Nyet
And your point being? You’re not making much sense.
If I have to spill it out…
People’s opinions change. They should not be called to account for opinions they no longer hold.
re: #196 Snarknado!
If I have to spill it out…
People’s opinions change. They should not be called to account for opinions they no longer hold.
Of course they shouldn’t. And? How does that contradict the point I was making to DD?
Oh, wait, you failed to get the point in the first place.
Hint: the point was not that Lincoln was bad. Quite the opposite.
re: #181 Decatur Deb
It’s very much copied from the military, specifically the 14 Principles. Every general officer comes into a new command with some version of that, climaxing in Rummy’s Rules.
Rummy’s Rules (Cabinet level) in .pdf
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The difference, as Donald Rumsfeld himself would agree, is that the military saves those sorts of constant, unending pressure environments for certain times. Ranger School, or Escape and Evasion courses are like that, and they need to be, but once a person has proven himself (or herself now), then the pressure is stepped back somewhat. With Amazon, the pressure just gets worse, which is why I’d never work there.
We can look at some historical events with understanding and certain tolerance for the social and political context of the time, i.e. without outrage. But also without continuing to evaluate them positively or taking them up as good symbols.
Lincoln’s statements are one example. The Kiss is another. Yes, it was “no biggie” back then. Nowadays we should be a little bit more analytical about what made it OK, and how it relates to the fact that today it would be considered a sexual assault. And whether we should still see this photo as “iconic” despite that.
Once upon a time this was considered OK, and we can try to understand why. But I’m glad we no longer consider it OK. If I’m a puritan because of that, so be it.
re: #6 teleskiguy
Naah-touch-tone phones were already in the eco-system way back then.
re: #174 Belafon
Why should white-collar workers be treated any differently than blue-collar ones? Speaking as a white-collar worker, this may be the only way some of my coworkers learn about the need for workers to stand together.
I agree with you about the need for workers to stand together (I work in a place where everyone, even the white collar workers, belong to a union).
That said, your first sentence uses the argument that everyone uses when trashing unions: Why should that group get a different deal than my group? It’s the very definition of divide-and-conquer.
edit: You may not have meant anything by it, but it jumped out at me because some people are pissed that I get to be in a union (I’m in government).
re: #200 Snarknado!
Piss off.
So you start with complete misunderstanding and end with boorishness. Whatever.
re: #189 Decatur Deb
“Grind your employees and maintain dissention among them” isn’t all that innovative.
This method requires an unending supply of fresh meat.
re: #200 Snarknado!
Fling an insult, get a downding.
Probably why they demand all the incoming employees LinkedIn contacts.
re: #136 Dave In Austin
THE STRESS TEST: Amazon Pushes Workers To Their Limits
nytimes.com
Wow. Thanks for the link. Makes me feel guilty for shopping there. I knew their warehouses were bad but it seems rotten all the way to the top. No thanks, I can wait an extra day or two for my 55 gallon drum of lube to arrive.
re: #136 Dave In Austin
THE STRESS TEST: Amazon Pushes Workers To Their Limits
nytimes.com
I wonder how many Ambots are losing their jobs over slugs like me who won’t join Prime and refuse to buy any of Amazon’s products or services? I really hate the aggressive rollouts of stuff that I don’t want or need.
Once again, Doonsbury nails it
***At first I typed boobs instead of books. With Texas, it works.
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Fling an insult, get a downding.
As you choose, but how is that an insult? A rude suggestion, I grant you.
re: #203 stpaulbear
I agree with you about the need for workers to stand together (I work in a place where everyone, even the white collar workers, belong to a union).
That said, your first sentence uses the argument that everyone uses when trashing unions: Why should that group get a different deal than my group? It’s the very definition of divide-and-conquer.
edit: You may not have meant anything by it, but it jumped out at me because some people are pissed that I get to be in a union (I’m in government).
I agree with your general principle, but I thought he meant that a taste of the same treatment might give them an idea what the problem is.
re: #212 Snarknado!
Yeah, on second reading I agreed with you. That’s why I made the edit.
Reading the NYT article further, one comes across Amazon’s internal “Anytime Feedback Tool”:
In 2013, Elizabeth Willet, a former Army captain who served in Iraq, joined Amazon to manage housewares vendors and was thrilled to find that a large company could feel so energetic and entrepreneurial. After she had a child, she arranged with her boss to be in the office from 7 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. each day, pick up her baby and often return to her laptop later. Her boss assured her things were going well, but her colleagues, who did not see how early she arrived, sent him negative feedback accusing her of leaving too soon.
“I can’t stand here and defend you if your peers are saying you’re not doing your work,” she says he told her. She left the company after a little more than a year.
Ms. Willet’s co-workers strafed her through the Anytime Feedback Tool, the widget in the company directory that allows employees to send praise or criticism about colleagues to management. (While bosses know who sends the comments, their identities are not typically shared with the subjects of the remarks.) Because team members are ranked, and those at the bottom eliminated every year, it is in everyone’s interest to outperform everyone else.
Amazon doesn’t just sell Game if Thrones, they’ve made it part of their HR strategy.
re: #211 Snarknado!
As you choose, but how is that an insult? A rude suggestion, I grant you.
The sentence is just my standard reply when giving out a downding for what I feel is treating a fellow Lizard badly. I’d agree telling someone to piss off is not by itself an insult. But I do feel you were undeservedly rude and hostile to Sergey.
re: #213 stpaulbear
Yeah, on second reading I agreed with you. That’s why I made the edit.
As someone who spent time trying to get her coworkers to unionize, I kind of wish we’d had a little trauma to point to (although you’d think what we showed them about wage disparities between coworkers who were and were not unionized would have done it).
re: #215 Dark_Falcon
The sentence is just my standard reply when giving out a downding for what I feel is treating a fellow Lizard badly. I’d agree telling someone to piss off is not by itself an insult. But I do feel you were undeservedly rude and hostile to Sergey.
See his #197.
re: #211 Snarknado!
As you choose, but how is that an insult? A rude suggestion, I grant you.
I agree. So, I went and updinged the comment to take away from Dark’s downer. I don’t think Sergey needs Dark backing him up, especially over a comment like piss off.
Later all…before I get myself in deeper. I’m going with the ‘sometimes it is best to let it rest and not say too much’ thinking and get to work on my many house projects.
re: #219 ObserverArt
I don’t think Sergey needs Dark backing him up
Don’t need, but still appreciate :)
Refreshing candor on Mark Levin's new audiobook: “Piercingly Squeaked by the Author”.
— Michael McKean (@MJMcKean) August 16, 2015
Who says the GOP isn’t a big tent?
Huckabee backs denying abortion to 10-year-old raped by stepfather http://t.co/wQFAq7nhOy pic.twitter.com/htlmmOywaL
— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) August 16, 2015
I don't care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this immigration policy paper. http://t.co/l7nq8gN7i5
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) August 16, 2015
re: #216 Snarknado!
Wendell, downding for kinda wishing worse conditions on my coworkers? But I didn’t really mean it, and anything they suffered, I would have suffered….
:)
re: #222 bratwurst
Huckabee:
“Let nobody be misled, a 10-year-old girl being raped is horrible, BUT
Everything before the “but” is irrelevant to Huckabee.
A downding for you and a downding for you, and for you, and for you. You all get downdings.
re: #225 b_sharp
A downding for you and a downding for you, and for you, and for you. You all get downdings.
I’m trying to think of a tune for that.
Well deserved Congratulations to Jeff Bezos and the rest of the #Executive Team @amazon for making it to a new #elite level. #Bottomfeeder
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) August 16, 2015
I think some of the critique that “liberals” have become overly politically correct and want to bitch about microagression…whatever the hell that is, may be true.
Trigger warnings are all the rage.
Amazon may be the nation's largest retailer, but its workplace culture sounds a little bit like the Borg. http://t.co/XFGQ3mIJ1C
— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) August 15, 2015
re: #233 Dave In Austin
Were the Borg encouraged to inform on each other, or did they just “know?”
Ding a ding a dang a dong dong ding dong
Jesus Built My Hot Rod
Being politically correct is better than being politically incorrect.
re: #230 blueraven
I think some of the critique that “liberals” have become overly politically correct and want to bitch about microagression…whatever the hell that is, may be true.
Trigger warnings are all the rage.
Any good idea can be taken too far. I think microaggressions are real (like a non-Asian American asking an Asian American “what country are you from”), even if some definitions of ma’s take things too far. I think some trigger warnings are useful, some are necessary (e.g. for graphic content), but again, some tw’s are ridiculous.
Wishing for some golden middle or something…
re: #238 JadeHelmCurious
Being politically correct is better than being politically incorrect.
Not always. Sometimes truths need to be told even if they result in people being offended or having their feelings hurt.
In 90% of cases PC is just reasonable politeness. In 10% - silliness ;)
Don’t stealth-ding, Chankobun. Post and let me know why you you’ve been downdinging me.
This damaging political correctness is destroying this great country. Like when people say:
Forced bussing
state’s rights
welfare state
moochers
race pimps
Does anyone know how to get rid of that “get Windows 10” message that slows my computer every time I wake it up or start it? Short of getting Windows 10, I mean.
re: #242 Dark_Falcon
First off, I don’t answer to you, ever, and the next time you act like I do you’re flagged. But if you must know, conflating “not being PC” with telling the truth is rightist shit and you ought to be ashamed of it.
… the jury is out on this global warming thing
illegal alien murdered a family of 3
but he marched with MLK
re: #243 JadeHelmCurious
This damaging political correctness is destroying this great country. Like when people say:
Forced busing
state’s rights
welfare state
moochers
race pimps
Only the bolded two are problematic. The other three are not bigoted terms and if the first such term is inflammatory, it is because it deals with a topic that provokes firey feelings.
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re: #247 Dark_Falcon
Only the bolded two are problematic. The other three are not bigoted terms
Article with Lee Atwater’s famous quote. Not printing it here.
re: #247 Dark_Falcon
They are all problematic. The only difference is level of subtlety.
“Not being PC” is just code for I want to act like a dickhead and you’re a whiny liberal if you call me out on it.
re: #249 Chan Kobun
Article with Lee Atwater’s famous quote. Not printing it here.
That’s exactly what I was thinking of.
re: #251 HappyWarrior
“Not being PC” is just code for I want to act like a dickhead and you’re a whiny liberal if you call me out on it.
Bingo.
re: #250 JadeHelmCurious
They are all problematic. The only difference is level of subtlety.
And foggy definition. “Welfare state” bad, but “Agricultural tax exemption” fine.
re: #253 JadeHelmCurious
Bingo.
I mean go ahead and act like a dick but don’t cry about “PC police” if I judge you or think less of you for it. Not you JHC obvs but these people who hide behind “not being PC’ as an excuse to act like dicks.
re: #254 jaunte
And foggy definition. “Welfare state” bad, but “Agricultural tax exemption” fine.
Welfare for poor people, baaaaaaaaaaaaad, corporate welfare, helping the job providers out. //
He saw an episode of JAG in a bar once. The sound was off, but he got the gist of it. @HowardKurtz
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) August 16, 2015
More PC:
Christian oppression
Muslim appeasement
job creators
what about black on black crime
re: #257 Ace-o-aces
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He’s using Homeland for the basis on how he plans to deal with moles.
re: #258 JadeHelmCurious
More PC:
Christian oppression
Muslim appeasement
job creators
what about black on black crime
“Judeo-Christian heritage.”
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
Not always. Sometimes truths need to be told even if they result in people being offended or having their feelings hurt.
As if being considerate and being honest were somehow mutually exclusive.
Party platform DF is the worst DF.
Like, not saying “gender/ethnic/racial/… group is [something negative]” is both polite and formally logically true (because generalizations are logically invalid for such big groups), and also happens to be politically correct. So when someone complains about PC because they “can’t” say something about blacks/Muslims/Jews/… in general, they’re being bigoted and irrational, and that’s the proper use of political correctness. Basically, don’t be an ass.
When a college cancels Vagina Monologues because it doesn’t represent trans women, that’s silly. But it’s also pretty rare to find such silly use of PC.
re: #261 bratwurst
You know what, I like your way of putting it better.
“American exceptionalism.”
“Southern heritage”
re: #245 Chan Kobun
First, take your threat and deposit it in the waste bin.
Second, you misunderstand me. I think political correctness can sometimes get in the way of the truth being told. I actually work pretty hard to avoid demeaning others on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation. But sometimes one finds one’s self in a situation where one has to be politically incorrect in order to say something important that needs to be said. But those times are not most times.
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
But sometimes one finds one’s self in a situation where one has to be politically incorrect in order to say something important that needs to be said.
I am sure you have a few examples and are not just pulling this “fact” out of your ass, right?
yes, this PC stuff is uhm, baaad, unkay? It gets in the way of truth being told.
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stand down order
heritage not hate
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
Second, you misunderstand me. I think political correctness can sometimes get in the way of the truth being told. I actually work pretty hard to avoid demeaning others on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation. But sometimes one finds one’s self in a situation where one has to be politically incorrect in order to say something important that needs to be said. But those times are not most times.
This is the most meaningless paragraph I’ve ever read. It literally means nothing. You typed a lot of words but didn’t come to anything - lots of ax-swinging but no chips!
Perhaps you’d care to rephrase?
So, did anybody watch ChuckTodd ask Trump the tough questions? All I’ve seen is a couple of tweets, and I’ll be damned if I’m going to watch ChuckTodd myself.
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
First, take your threat and deposit it in the waste bin.
Second, you misunderstand me. I think political correctness can sometimes get in the way of the truth being told. I actually work pretty hard to avoid demeaning others on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation. But sometimes one finds one’s self in a situation where one has to be politically incorrect in order to say something important that needs to be said. But those times are not most times.
Look, I’m fairly new here, but for people who think PC is something that keeps you from saying something “important”, you may want to try a simple mental exercise. Shut up. Listen. Think. Listen some more. Think some more.
In the end, I find that every time my knee-jerk reaction is to dismiss someone as being irrational, if I really try to hear what they’re saying, I find that there’s something for me to learn about it.
“All lives matter” is a knee-jerk reaction. When you stop and listen, you realize how offensive it is to say that.
“Forced busing” is also offensive. It’s saying that putting white kids in schools with black kids is an affront. It’s an aggression. It hurts the white kids. If you weren’t white, and you were a kid in school, how would that make you feel?
re: #271 Unabogie
Look, I’m fairly new here, but for people who think PC is something that keeps you from saying something “important”, you may want to try a simple mental exercise. Shut up. Listen. Think. Listen some more. Think some more.
In the end, I find that every time my knee-jerk reaction is to dismiss someone as being irrational, if I really try to hear what they’re saying, I find that there’s something for me to learn about it.
“All lives matter” is a knee-jerk reaction. When you stop and listen, you realize how offensive it is to say that.
“Forced busing” is also offensive. It’s saying that putting white kids in schools with black kids is an affront. It’s an aggression. It hurts the white kids. If you weren’t white, and you were a kid in school, how would that make you feel?
That’s a great point about busing.
Ironic the thread is titled The Littlest Republicans Debate. And now we’re talking about PC. And by a large margin, all the PC terms and phrases are conservative.
How do ya like that?
An order or uber-irony: the phrase ‘this PC stuff is getting outta hand’ is itself PC.
Let’s cut to the chase and make it interesting: the blame for PC is levied against the left by the right, though the right is a clear champion of PC terms.
What are the left’s biggest actual PC terms?
Too hot for snark. Here everyone, have a refreshing glass of iced tea.Link
re: #273 JadeHelmCurious
Ironic the thread is titled The Littlest Republicans Debate. And now we’re talking about PC. And by a large margin, all the PC terms and phrases are conservative.
How do ya like that?
An order or uber-irony: the phrase ‘this PC stuff is getting outta hand’ is itself PC.
Let’s cut to the chase and make it interesting: the blame for PC is levied against the left by the right, though the right is a clear champion of PC terms.
What are the left’s biggest actual PC terms?
Indeed.
re: #271 Unabogie
I’m not going to get into the issue of busing on a publicly readable forum. IMO, it’s far too sensitive a topic, even today, to speak about in any detail.
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
I’m not going to get into the issue of busing on a publicly readable forum. IMO, it’s far too sensitive a topic, even today, to speak about in any detail.
And yes, this is a cop-out.
generally i find that what people refer to as “political correctness” i would call “good manners” and “not wanting to hurt other people’s feelings”
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
I’m not going to get into the issue of busing on a publicly readable forum. IMO, it’s far too sensitive a topic, even today, to speak about in any detail.
What is this? 1972?
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
I’m not going to get into the issue of busing on a publicly readable forum. IMO, it’s far too sensitive a topic, even today, to speak about in any detail.
So now who’s being PC? You’re anonymous here. State your views.
re: #280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
generally i find that what people refer to as “political correctness” i would call “good manners” and “not wanting to hurt other people’s feelings”
PC is this, but the slur of PC is ‘you’re askerd of saying THE TRUTH because you might hurt somebodies fee fees ya wussy.’
It’s nothing more than a childish taunt wrapped up in adult posture.
re: #273 JadeHelmCurious
Ironic the thread is titled The Littlest Republicans Debate. And now we’re talking about PC. And by a large margin, all the PC terms and phrases are conservative.
How do ya like that?
An order or uber-irony: the phrase ‘this PC stuff is getting outta hand’ is itself PC.
Let’s cut to the chase and make it interesting: the blame for PC is levied against the left by the right, though the right is a clear champion of PC terms.
What are the left’s biggest actual PC terms?
well, the right does object mightily whenever it is accused of racism
re: #280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
generally i find that what people refer to as “political correctness” i would call “good manners” and “not wanting to hurt other people’s feelings”
I call it basic politeness and common sense. I.E., I don’t broadbrush groups because hey I would be pissed if someone said that about the groups I am a part of. That is to say, someone saying some crap like black people are more likely to be criminals should think and wonder how they’d feel if another speaker said something like white people are more likely to be serial murderers.
re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth
Cute lil’ feller.
OK, I guess I’ll do it.
On immigration:
Trump told Todd he wants to keep immigrant families together — “just not here.” Trump pledged to reverse President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and deport all undocumented immigrants.
Foreign Affairs:
On other foreign affairs, Trump said, on ISIS, that he’d “take away their wealth,” and that while he isn’t a “big fan” of Saudi Arabia, “I get along with them very well. They give me millions of dollars for apartments. So does China and so does Mexico and I make tremendous amounts of money from very wealthy people who buy apartments from me.”
On abortion and women:
Trump said he would not fund Planned Parenthood if it continued to provide abortion services. “It has to stop with the abortions,” he said, while insisting, “Women’s health issues to me are very important. I cherish women. My mother was this incredible woman. I have great children. I have a great wife. I have such great respect for women. I understand the importance of women. I have many executives in my organization that are women that frankly get paid more than many of my men executives. They’ve done great with me.”
The usual bullshit:
He still thinks Obama should release his college academic records. When Todd asked about Trump if he’d release his own college records, Trump said: “I’m proud of my records. But [Obama] has to do it. If he does it I’ll do it”;
-He reiterated his opinion that rival Jeb Bush is “a puppet” to campaign donors, and that while he himself couldn’t agree to a “lifetime ban” on accepting contributions, “I can certainly make it through four years”;
-Asked by Todd when he though America was last “great,” Trump said during the Reagan Administration, at which point Todd quoted from an old newspaper ad taken by Trump in 1987 that said, in part, “The world is laughing at America’s politicians,” a phrase Trump frequently used today. “I thought America was excellent,” Trump responded, “but I thought NAFTA was a huge mistake.” He added that he admired the “tone” set by Reagan.
-Finally, Todd quoted a 1990 Playboy in which Trump said that his plane and other luxury accouterments were merely “props for the show,” and that “The show is Trump and it has sold out performances everywhere.”
Todd asked, Are we all a part of the show?
“This is not a reality show,” Trump responded. “This is the real deal.” He then promised Todd a ratings surge for today’s episode.
re: #243 JadeHelmCurious
This damaging political correctness is destroying this great country. Like when people say:
Forced bussing
state’s rights
welfare state
moochers
race pimps
To me those things are not so much a political correctness issue, those are dog whistles. There is a difference.
When a movie, or some music or opinions are stifled, that is what I am speaking of. I say, get it out there. Agree or disagree, but don’t try to stop/boycott all things that offend.
And both sides do that.
re: #288 Skip Intro
OK, I guess I’ll do it.
On immigration:
Foreign Affairs:
On abortion and women:
The usual bullshit:
And of course the GOP base eats this shit for breakfast.
re: #283 JadeHelmCurious
PC is this, but the slur of PC is ‘you’re askerd of saying THE TRUTH because you might hurt somebodies fee fees ya wussy.’
It’s nothing more than a childish taunt wrapped up in adult posture.
Which is precisely what DF said about “forced busing”. If, in fact, there were a rational argument to be made about what pissed people off about having black children bused into their formerly all-white schools, no one would be afraid to make it. The problem is that the objections cannot be separated from base white supremacy arguments, and that bigotry inevitably rears its head when you talk at length about it.
DF seems to know this, which is why he said it wasn’t something he would talk about in public.
Am I guilty of PC?
I have not used nor even typed the evil niCLANG for years and never will. I’ve stopped using -tard to associate it with idiocy. I quit using the term ‘pussy’ to assert being scared and ‘act like a man’ to show bravery, as if bravery is a masculine trait.
I don’t use terms that ‘some’ people find offensive, even though that may offend many others.
I’m PC and fucking proud of it you fucking caveman.
(If any cavemen are ever offended by this term, I will stop using it, promise)
re: #273 JadeHelmCurious
I think PC is more about avoiding rather than saying differently.
I honestly don’t care what people say. It’s your right. Just don’t get upset if I call you out if I think you’re being bigoted. It’s not rocket science.
re: #283 JadeHelmCurious
PC is this, but the slur of PC is ‘you’re askerd of saying THE TRUTH because you might hurt somebodies fee fees ya wussy.’
It’s nothing more than a childish taunt wrapped up in adult posture.
i usually then ask them if they can tell me any jokes making fun of those humorous failings of anglo-saxons or suburbanites that would be un-pc, so we can see how they are willing to relax and laugh at themselves and take what they dish out
re: #289 blueraven
To me those things are not so much a political correctness issue, those are dog whistles. There is a difference.
When a movie, or some music or opinions are stifled, that is what I am speaking of. I say, get it out there. Agree or disagree, but don’t try to stop/boycott all things that offend.
And both sides do that.
In a deeper conversation, you’re right. Too deep for me to start right before Mrs JadeHelmCurious and I go for a beach walk.
re: #294 Amory Blaine
Gonzo’d be proud. :)
I think he was my Dad’s first vote. McGovern heh not Gonzo.
re: #298 JadeHelmCurious
In a deeper conversation, you’re right. Too deep for me to start right before Mrs JadeHelmCurious and I go for a beach walk.
I guess a definition of political correctness is in order. But like you, I am pressed for time at the moment.
re: #297 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i usually then ask them if they can tell me any jokes making fun of those humorous failings of anglo-saxons or suburbanites that would be un-pc, so we can see how they are willing to relax and laugh at themselves and take what they dish out
I think that’s what gets me. They have such blatant double standards. The Christian right goes apeshit any time a fundamentalist Christian is portrayed in even a slightly negative way.
Time to meet the next First Lady.
Trumps Wife, Potential first lady, WTF Glad she's not one of those Trashy Obama Girls. pic.twitter.com/KVHcof4khS
— terry (@terrybrown5367) August 16, 2015
re: #297 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
i usually then ask them if they can tell me any jokes making fun of those humorous failings of anglo-saxons or suburbanites that would be un-pc, so we can see how they are willing to relax and laugh at themselves and take what they dish out
Let’s not forget that when a witness said that Trayvon Martin called George Zimmerman a “creepy-ass cracker”, the right got the vapors.
Of course, looking back now, Trayvon was being kind.
re: #302 Skip Intro
She and trump obviously have great conversations. Or maybe she’s just into his hair.
re: #303 Unabogie
Let’s not forget that when a witness said that Trayvon Martin called George Zimmerman a “creepy-ass cracker”, the right got the vapors.
Of course, looking back now, Trayvon was being kind.
Right, great point.
Trump’s immigration reform plan.
Excerpt: How Trump will get Mexico to pay for the wall.
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
Trump is Bill the Butcher without the charisma.
re: #244 Snarknado!
Does anyone know how to get rid of that “get Windows 10” message that slows my computer every time I wake it up or start it? Short of getting Windows 10, I mean.
I have the opposite problem—my laptop (with factory 8) NEVER had the message anywhere.
When I took it into a repair shop to deal with the phantom cursors, sudden opening of apps, bouncing images etc., the guy disabled the touchscreen ability, left 8 on it with a new start screen and sent me on my way. It’s now slower than ever, will not recognize my mouse and has other weird issues, but no Windows 10 messages, that’s for sure!
re: #309 Dark_Falcon
Well, I have no idea who you are in real life, but if your views are so off-putting that you’re afraid to say them in public, maybe that’s a clue.
re: #265 Dark_Falcon
But sometimes one finds one’s self in a situation where one has to be politically incorrect in order to say something important that needs to be said.
Still waiting for a single example of a situation where one has to be politically incorrect to say something important.
Then again, I am still waiting to learn how the president exceeded his authority on Obamacare too. I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.
re: #302 Skip Intro
Wonder if that photo persuaded Donald to buy marry her?
re: #309 Dark_Falcon
No, I’m not.
I will certainly back up DF on this point. He has been regularly insulted under his actual name, often by people who he had weeks earlier BEGGED Charles not to ban from here, in the places where assholes congregate.
re: #288 Skip Intro
On immigration:
Let’s take just this one. Maybe somebody else can grab the others.
So, round up and deport 11 million undocumented, along with however many citizen spouses and kids they’ve got.
To start with, for that to even be physically possible, the INS is going to need about 5x their current budget and staffing levels.
Some of those 11 mil may be too young or too old, but most of them are working. Agriculture, construction, child care, elder care, hotels and restaurants… Suppose another 7 miliion jobs come available. Are there that many unemployed people? The upward pressure on wages may seem beneficial to workers, but
We’d actually need more than that. Agriculture workers don’t get paid by the hour, they’re paid by the bushel. And there’s a pretty short window during which the crop is ready to harvest, but not yet rotten. Novices can’t pick even half as fast as people who’ve been doing it for a few years and know what they’re doing. Are they willing to work for $3/hr? Or should we just raise prices of our produce, construction, hotel rooms, child care, elder care, etc, and still expect people who are now making $3/hr to support themselves somehow?
re: #314 sagehen
Let’s take just this one. Maybe somebody else can grab the others.
So, round up and deport 11 million undocumented, along with however many citizen spouses and kids they’ve got.
To start with, for that to even be physically possible, the INS is going to need about 5x their current budget and staffing levels.
Some of those 11 mil may be too young or too old, but most of them are working. Agriculture, construction, child care, elder care, hotels and restaurants… Suppose another 7 miliion jobs come available. Are there that many unemployed people? The upward pressure on wages may seem beneficial to workers, but
We’d actually need more than that. Agriculture workers don’t get paid by the hour, they’re paid by the bushel. And there’s a pretty short window during which the crop is ready to harvest, but not yet rotten. Novices can’t pick even half as fast as people who’ve been doing it for a few years and know what they’re doing. Are they willing to work for $3/hr? Or should we just raise prices of our produce, construction, hotel rooms, child care, elder care, etc, and still expect people who are now making $3/hr to support themselves somehow?
It’s just stupid populism designed to appeal to the worst elements of the GOP base. I bet that Trump hasn’t even fired all the undocumented people that work for him.
re: #314 sagehen
Yeah, I wonder how many people noticed that Trump wants “to keep families together” by deporting US citizens and legal residents. I guess as long as they’re brown, it will be popular.
Of course Trump isn’t going to do it, but the delta minuses who are enamored with him love that kind of talk. They only way Trump could improve it would be to have ICE execute them, saving us of the cost and bother of deporting them.
re: #308 BeachDem
I have the opposite problem—my laptop (with factory 8) NEVER had the message anywhere.
When I took it into a repair shop to deal with the phantom cursors, sudden opening of apps, bouncing images etc., the guy disabled the touchscreen ability, left 8 on it with a new start screen and sent me on my way. It’s now slower than ever, will not recognize my mouse and has other weird issues, but no Windows 10 messages, that’s for sure!
I.will.not.upgrade.
I.will.not.upgrade.
I.will.not.upgrade.
(Maybe you can find a nice copy of win7 to fix your problem?)
Just in case you think Alex Jones is a crazy nutter, I give you this, the real thing.
BTW, the Sept 23 end of the world day is just a false flag hiding the real thing.
In accordance with Jewish beliefs, acts committed against “Goyim” or non-believers on Yom Kippur are forgiven in the eyes of the Jewish God.
Mass Planetary Depopulation while Elites go to Mars Colonies?
The planned year long false flag event, around which the U.S. government Jade Helm martial law drill is designed, may take various forms. The holographic projection, crisis actor, and managed mainstream media technologies perfected in prior false flag events such as the JFK assassination (Nov. 22, 1963); 9/11 (September 11, 2001); Hurricane Katrina (Aug. 29, 2005); Hurricane Sandy (Oct. 22, 2012); Sandy Hook Elementary (December 14, 2012) are reportedly to be applied in creating any one or more of the following “events”.
(A) Dimensionally engineered Asteroid collision or “Planet X-Nibiru” false flag event[5];
(B) HAARP and directed energy weapon intentional Yellowstone seismic detonation warfare[6],
(C) CERN Dimensional Hell Chaos[7]
(D) False Flag ET “Invasion” or False Flag ET “Disclosure”
See also: PROJECT BLUE BEAM The technology of the September 23, 2015 Jade Helm year-long false flag explained?
There are some really batshit insane mofos out there, and they have followers.
re: #319 Skip Intro
Just in case you think Alex Jones is a crazy nutter, I give you this, the real thing.
BTW, the Sept 23 end of the world day is just a false flag hiding the real thing.
There are some really batshit insane mofos out there, and they have followers.
Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Sandy were false flag events? They used massive turbines to create the 100mph winds spread across whole timezones, the flooding was all CGI?
re: #319 Skip Intro
Just in case you think Alex Jones is a crazy nutter, I give you this, the real thing.
BTW, the Sept 23 end of the world day is just a false flag hiding the real thing.
There are some really batshit insane mofos out there, and they have followers.
DAFUQ? I thought the shit I had found on Sept 23 so far was “out there”, but this…
O.O
“@HowardKurtz: Chuck Todd: Who do you talk to for military advice? Donald Trump: I watch the shows.” Now we know!
— Donna Brazile (@donnabrazile) August 16, 2015
When I first saw this above, I thought it was a joke. Wow. That was a Sarah Palin moment.
re: #316 calochortus
Yeah, I wonder how many people noticed that Trump wants “to keep families together” by deporting US citizens and legal residents. I guess as long as they’re brown, it will be popular.
How's this for a Trump campaign slogan: IF YOU'RE WHITE, YOU'RE ALL RIGHT! ANY OTHER HUE, I DON'T TRUST YOU.
— Stephen King (@StephenKing) August 5, 2015
re: #320 sagehen
Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Sandy were false flag events? They used massive turbines to create the 100mph winds spread across whole timezones, the flooding was all CGI?
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re: #322 Jenner7
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Chuck Todd: Who do you talk to for military advice? Donald Trump: I watch the shows.
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re: #316 calochortus
Yeah, I wonder how many people noticed that Trump wants “to keep families together” by deporting US citizens and legal residents. I guess as long as they’re brown, it will be popular.
A lot of those illegal immigrants aren’t even brown…
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
A lot of those illegal immigrants aren’t even brown…
We care less about those…
re: #324 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
WERE YOU THERE?!!
Answer no—you’ve just been lied to by the Illuminati/Reptoid Lamestream MediaTM
Answer yes—you’re an Illuminati/Reptoid yourself.
Everybody in NY, NJ, PA, CT, MA, NH, VT and ME was there for Sandy. Everybody in LA, MS, AL, TX and FL was there for Katrina. That’s a whole lotta people to trick with special effects.
re: #322 Jenner7
He did get a little more specific. He likes to listen to John Bolton for cutting edge military advice. I think he was going to ad Sarah Palin too, but knew he wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face.
Babby parts!
.@VUMChealth received $10M in grants for fetal tissue research http://t.co/Zsdmr0M5dS pic.twitter.com/GeoiiIaMTA
— The Tennessean (@Tennessean) August 16, 2015
re: #318 Snarknado!
I.will.not.upgrade.
I.will.not.upgrade.
I.will.not.upgrade.(Maybe you can find a nice copy of win7 to fix your problem?)
I asked him about that and he argle bargled until my eyes crossed, so I guess he thought not. Fortunately, I only use my laptop when I travel for work. Unfortunately, that will be happening for almost all of September and October. Sigh.
re: #293 JadeHelmCurious
Am I guilty of PC?
I have not used nor even typed the evil niCLANG for years and never will. I’ve stopped using -tard to associate it with idiocy. I quit using the term ‘pussy’ to assert being scared and ‘act like a man’ to show bravery, as if bravery is a masculine trait.
I don’t use terms that ‘some’ people find offensive, even though that may offend many others.
I’m PC and fucking proud of it you fucking caveman.
(If any cavemen are ever offended by this term, I will stop using it, promise)
Everyone I know who claims to be politically incorrect, to a fucking person, invokes that chickenshit defense every time they shit on a group of people due to race, religion, etc.
As I said before, what these jerks are pissed off about is that the people they mock are now pushing back.
Well, guess what, assholes? Your magic “Get out of jail free” card doesn’t work anymore.
So Trump wants to deport 11 million immigrants? Hmmmm…
After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia…
Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry….
The results of that investigation have now been released. According to survey of 230 Georgia farmers conducted by Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, farmers expect to need more than 11,000 workers at some point over the rest of the season, a number that probably underestimates the real need, since not every farmer in the state responded to the survey.The Atlantic
(Note: many prisoners refused to do the work after trying it for a short while and the ones who did work were MUCH less efficient than the immigrant workers)
So he’ll spend massive amounts of money to deport workers, drive up food prices and potentially bankrupt a huge number of farmers.
This will really help the economy. Sounds like a plan.
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re: #330 Skip Intro
He did get a little more specific. He likes to listen to John Bolton for cutting edge military advice. I think he was going to ad Sarah Palin too, but knew he wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face.
My question, silly though it may be, is did Chuck Todd call him on it?
re: #335 A Cranky One
People tend to miss the fact that farm work is not unskilled labor. At least, not if you want it done efficiently.
Locked in Solitary at 14: Adult Jails Isolate Youths Despite Risk
A bill introduced in the United States Senate this month by Cory Booker, Democrat of New Jersey, and Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, among others, would prohibit almost all solitary confinement of juveniles in the federal system.
Think this bill will go anywhere?
re: #335 A Cranky One
So Trump wants to deport 11 million immigrants? Hmmmm…
After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia…
Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry….
The results of that investigation have now been released. According to survey of 230 Georgia farmers conducted by Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, farmers expect to need more than 11,000 workers at some point over the rest of the season, a number that probably underestimates the real need, since not every farmer in the state responded to the survey.The Atlantic
(Note: many prisoners refused to do the work after trying it for a short while and the ones who did work were MUCH less efficient than the immigrant workers)
So he’ll spend massive amounts of money to deport workers, drive up food prices and potentially bankrupt a huge number of farmers.
This will really help the economy. Sounds like a plan.
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Gee, I wonder which party has the majority in GA?
No wonder Mom Anon wants to get out of there. Only Republicans could create a bill that incorporates famine, bigotry, and economic disaster in one pretty package.
Wanna get skeeved out this morning?
re: #340 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Wanna get skeeved out this morning?
Before it’s all over they’ll have someone accusing him of witchcraft.
Plumbing the depths…
“…the most frequent source Trump cites to back up the ideas in his plan is the right-wing news site Breitbart News”
thinkprogress.org
re: #336 BeachDem
My question, silly though it may be, is did Chuck Todd call him on it?
That’s not his job, because he might get Megyn’d if he calls Trump on anything.
mostly not /
re: #335 A Cranky One
So Trump wants to deport 11 million immigrants? Hmmmm…
After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia…
Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry….
The results of that investigation have now been released. According to survey of 230 Georgia farmers conducted by Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, farmers expect to need more than 11,000 workers at some point over the rest of the season, a number that probably underestimates the real need, since not every farmer in the state responded to the survey.
<snip>
Suspect the majority of the GA farmers voted Republican
re: #337 calochortus
People tend to miss the fact that farm work is not unskilled labor. At least, not if you want it done efficiently.
I’m a farmer and this is totally true.
re: #322 Jenner7
And the shows Trump watches? 24 & NCIS? God save us frm another idiot who feels qualified 2b in the White House. @donnabrazile @HowardKurtz
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) August 16, 2015
Reading Donald Trump’s immigration plan. This man is completely off his rocker.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 16, 2015
Trump’s immigration plan does have one big advantage over the plan from the Congressional Republicans: it exists.
Igor Darkman explains the Trump appeal to the masses:
His supporters agreed with everything he didn’t say. His ability to speak his mind without saying anything captures the populace. His carefully chosen unspoken words resonate with many.
re: #123 Dave In Austin
Yeah, I haven’t bought anything from Amazon in ages. Fuck them.
I watched his interview at the cigar bar I frequent. One of the longtimers was asked by another what he though of Trump. He said:
Trump’s the fucking Anti-Christ.
re: #308 BeachDem
I have the opposite problem—my laptop (with factory 8) NEVER had the message anywhere.
When I took it into a repair shop to deal with the phantom cursors, sudden opening of apps, bouncing images etc., the guy disabled the touchscreen ability, left 8 on it with a new start screen and sent me on my way. It’s now slower than ever, will not recognize my mouse and has other weird issues, but no Windows 10 messages, that’s for sure!
Then he didn’t do his job.
And yes, I do know what I’m talking about.
re: #247 Dark_Falcon
Only the bolded two are problematic. The other three are not bigoted terms and if the first such term is inflammatory, it is because it deals with a topic that provokes firey feelings.
If you knew anything about “forced busing”, then you’d know quite well that it was indeed a dog whistle for “blacks are coming to the suburbs…to go to school with our precious white kids…be very afraid!”
You’re far less informed about race than guns and wars and blowing shit up. Take this advice to heart: think a little harder and take a little more time before posting on topics you know less about.
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
I’m not going to get into the issue of busing on a publicly readable forum. IMO, it’s far too sensitive a topic, even today, to speak about in any detail.
If “sensitive topics” can’t be discussed, then what the hell is the point of political dialogue in the first place? If any progress is gonna be made, the first thing we have to do is be brave enough to at least talk about things. Your approach is pure chickenshit.
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