Influential Iowa Radio Host Jan Mickelson: Enslave Undocumented Immigrants Unless They Leave

“What’s wrong with slavery?”
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Those of us who follow the continuous eruptions of bad craziness from the right wing are pretty hard to shock at this point; it takes a lot to stand out amid all the insanity. But Jan Mickelson, a highly influential right wing talk radio host in Iowa (he’s interviewed several of the GOP presidential candidates on his show), has achieved the nearly impossible today.

Because Mickelson is actually proposing slavery as the solution to America’s problems with immigration. And he explicitly said he was not kidding.

Via Media Matters:

JAN MICKELSON: Now here is what would work. And I was asked by an immigration open border’s activist a couple of weeks ago, how I would get all the illegals here in the state of Iowa to leave.

[…]

“Well how you going to do it, Mickelson? You think you’re so smart. How would you get thousands of illegals to leave Iowa?”

Well, I said, “Well if I wanted to do that I would just put up some signs.”

“Well what would the signs say?”

I said, “Well I’d would put them on the end of the highway, on western part of the interstate system, and I’d put them on the eastern side of the state, right there on the interstate system, and in the north on the Minnesota border, and on the south Kansas and Missouri border and I would just say this: ‘As of this date’ — whenever we decide to do this — ‘as of this date, 30—’ this is a totally arbitrary number, ‘30 to 60 days from now anyone who is in the state of Iowa that who is not here legally and who cannot demonstrate their legal status to the satisfaction of the local and state authorities here in the State of Iowa, become property of the State of Iowa.’ So if you are here without our permission, and we have given you two months to leave, and you’re still here, and we find that you’re still here after we we’ve given you the deadline to leave, then you become property of the State of Iowa. And we have a job for you. And we start using compelled labor, the people who are here illegally would therefore be owned by the state and become an asset of the state rather than a liability and we start inventing jobs for them to do.

“Well how would you apply that logic to what Donald Trump is trying to do? Trying to get Mexico to pay for the border and for the wall?”

“Same way. We say, ‘Hey, we are not going to make Mexico pay for the wall, we’re going to invite the illegal Mexicans and illegal aliens to build it. If you have come across the border illegally, again give them another 60-day guideline, you need to go home and leave this jurisdiction, and if you don’t you become property of the United States, and guess what? You will be building a wall. We will compel your labor. You would belong to these United States. You show up without an invitation, you get to be an asset. You get to be a construction worker. Cool!’”

When a caller expressed some trepidation about what Mickelson just said, here was his response:

CALLER: Well you know I don’t have my Constitution in front of me and you know like I say, it sounds like a clever idea and maybe you can make it - put it in action, but I think the fall out would be so significant. And I, you know —

MICKELSON: What would be the nature of the fall out?

CALLER: Well I think everybody would believe it sounds like slavery?

MICKELSON: Well, what’s wrong with slavery?

And just in case you think he was employing satire to make some kind of weird right wing point, he concluded the segment with this:

CALLER: So are you going to house all these people who have chosen to be indentured?

MICKELSON: Yes, yes, absolutely in a minimal fashion. We would take a lesson from Sheriff [Joe] Arpaio down in Arizona. Put up a tent village, we feed and water these new assets, we give them minimal shelter, minimal nutrition, and offer them the opportunity to work for the benefit of the taxpayers of the state of Iowa. All they have to do to avoid servitude is to leave.

CALLER: [laughing] Hey, good luck.

MICKELSON: All right, thank you very much I appreciate it.

CALLER: You bet. You bet.

MICKELSON: You think I’m just pulling your leg. I am not.

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102 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:55:14pm

Groundswell of support and agreement to start in…wait, it has already started!

2
HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:56:08pm

Fascist fuck.

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:58:08pm

Not just people owning people, he wants the state of Iowa to own people. He’s not right in the head nor heart.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:58:24pm

i think at this point either trump will cause the majority of americans to be horrified at what the gop has become, or it will be “ja, fritz - now we will have a new germany!” and we will be fucked like never before

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:59:07pm

When sponsors start pulling out of his show he’s going to be all like HEY IT WAS JUST A GIMMICK TO STIR UP SOME CONTROVERSY AND GET PEOPLE TO CALL IN!

This fuck has nothing near the popularity of Rush.

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KGxvi  Aug 19, 2015 • 1:59:07pm

I…

Um…

Look…

Just…

*sigh*

There are not enough languages in the world, nor enough religions for me to properly curse and blaspheme in response to this

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:00:43pm

Actually, his show is much better in the original German.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:01:15pm

They’re working their way backward through the Amendments they want to get rid of. They started with the 17th, they’re now going after the 14th, and next, apparently, is the 13th.

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b.d.  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:01:22pm

Hope the base doesn’t embrace this idea, that’ll mean 17 candidates will suddenly be for it too.

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No Depression  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:02:40pm

Wow, fuck that guy. And I thought the local talk radio shitheads here in Maryland were bad for suggesting that the Baltimore PD use snipers on rioters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:04:12pm

re: #10 No Depression

Wow, fuck that guy. And I thought the local talk radio shitheads here in Maryland were bad for suggesting that the Baltimore PD use snipers on rioters.

When the host is crazier than the callers, it’s time to cancel the show.

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Lidane  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:05:25pm

The only legitimate response to that asshole:

Go Fuck Yourself!

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KGxvi  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:07:36pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m actually surprised we haven’t had someone come out for repeal of the 17th Amendment yet.

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Lidane  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:08:11pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I’m actually surprised we haven’t had someone come out for repeal of the 17th Amendment yet.

Oh, the far right nutters have been whining about that one for years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:09:00pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I’m actually surprised we haven’t had someone come out for repeal of the 17th Amendment yet.

Wait till the Senate fails to overturn Obama’s veto of the vote against the Iran deal.

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No Depression  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:09:09pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I think I might have seen a few American Conservative commenters come out for that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:09:11pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I’m actually surprised we haven’t had someone come out for repeal of the 17th Amendment yet.

That’s actually quite common. I know Glenn Beck hates the 17th.

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KGxvi  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:09:30pm

re: #14 Lidane

oh, I know, first time I heard about it was at a Federalist Society event probably 12 years ago. I honestly didn’t even know how to respond then.

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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:09:39pm

“Is Shaun King White?” is going mainstream: rawstory.com.

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Lidane  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:10:36pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

That’s actually quite common. I know Glenn Beck hates the 17th.

The one that surprised me was the one RWNJ boob I saw bleating about repealing the Third Amendment, which made no fucking sense. I didn’t even know that was a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:12:34pm

re: #20 Lidane

The one that surprised me was the one RWNJ boob I saw bleating about repealing the Third Amendment, which made no fucking sense. I didn’t even know that was a problem.

That may be peak wingnut right there.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:12:45pm

I don’t know which is worse—that he would enslave these people or that this fucker actually thinks that undocumented workers are sitting around doing nothing.

I know I’m largely preaching to the choir, but these folks often times work shitty jobs with shitty hours for shitty pay. This numbskull thinks they sit around doing…well, what exactly? Eating bon bons and drinking mojitos?

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Joe Bacon  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:14:08pm

I remember studying economics at Pitt 40 years ago where the department was split between Milton Friedman’s monetarism and Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalism. I had to read Rothbard books where he saw nothing wrong with “voluntary slavery”.

That’s when I knew that Libertarians were batshit insane!

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:14:11pm

re: #19 Belafon

It’s at The Daily Beast, TMZ and Jet Magazine (which has black audience).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:14:52pm

re: #20 Lidane

The one that surprised me was the one RWNJ boob I saw bleating about repealing the Third Amendment, which made no fucking sense. I didn’t even know that was a problem.

Quartering soldiers? He wanted to repeal THAT? I just…I can’t even… What?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:15:18pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon

I remember studying economics at Pitt 40 years ago where the department was split between Milton Friedman’s monetarism and Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalism. I had to read Rothbard books where he saw nothing wrong with “voluntary slavery”.

That’s when I knew that Libertarians were batshit insane!

“Voluntary Slavery”………..

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:16:20pm

re: #18 KGxvi

oh, I know, first time I heard about it was at a Federalist Society event probably 12 years ago. I honestly didn’t even know how to respond then.

I know how you feel. I first saw it in about 2006 at a forum I posted on and I was genuinely shocked.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:16:43pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

“Voluntary Slavery”………..

We already have that. We call them ‘interns’

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:18:01pm

this is what is so sad about today’s GOP… I’m not shocked by the statement. These guys are just about ready to run on a platform akin to prime noctum when it comes to relations between the genders and feudal tithing when it comes to taxation and personal property.

It’s a rich white man’s world and they want to keep it in place, by any means necessary.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:18:13pm

why not just repeal the entire constitution?

as we discussed here a while ago, the current constitution gives much more power to a centralized federal government than the articles of confederation

Revive The Anti-Federalist Party!

No Federal Power To Tax!!

All Power To The Soviets States!!

The Articles of Confederation Is A States’ Rights Constitution!!!

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Lidane  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:18:13pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Quartering soldiers? He wanted to repeal THAT? I just…I can’t even… What?

Yeah, it made no sense.

My guess is that because it was one of the Amendments used to imply a right to privacy in Griswold, since it was used to argue that a person’s home should be free from agents of the state.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:18:54pm

More on Rothbard.

I had to read his book on the Great Depression where he put the blame on Hoover for creating the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in 1930. Rothbard alleged that drove the country into depression.

Of course he saw nothing wrong with all those Wall Street speculators…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:19:14pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

“Voluntary Slavery”………..

shmoos

like all the employees ready to worship ‘job creators’ as superior beings

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:20:57pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

We already have that. We call them ‘interns’

Agh don’t I know it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:21:26pm

re: #29 piratedan

this is what is so sad about today’s GOP… I’m not shocked by the statement. These guys are just about ready to run on a platform akin to prime noctum when it comes to relations between the genders and feudal tithing when it comes to taxation and personal property.

It’s a rich white man’s world and they want to keep it in place, by any means necessary.

I can see Trump supporting Prima Nocta, “As long as it’s my choice. I mean, some of these brides today, they just don’t look good.II don’t want to HAVE TO, because I’d only bang the best looking, just the very best of other men’s brides.”
///

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:22:07pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re working their way backward through the Amendments they want to get rid of. They started with the 17th, they’re now going after the 14th, and next, apparently, is the 13th.

I think they would be happy to say the US Constitution has only two amendments.

1. Congress shall make no law stopping the establishment of a Christian religion state, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of stupid, hateful and bigoted speech and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

2. It is necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That’s it.

The rest is settled in a hail of gunfire and cussing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:22:22pm

re: #31 Lidane

Yeah, it made no sense.

My guess is that because it was one of the Amendments used to imply a right to privacy in Griswold, since it was used to argue that a person’s home should be free from agents of the state.

I’ve mentioned this before but I knew they were nuts when I start seeing the AFA, FRC and groups like that rail against Griswold. I mean don’t get me wrong opposing Roe is bad enough but finding fault with a decision that makes it legal for married couples to use birth control.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:22:47pm
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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:23:42pm

Speaking of Rothbard (who was a racist):

web.archive.org

A right-wing populist program, then, must concentrate on dismantling the crucial existing areas of State and elite rule, and on liberating the average American from the most flagrant and oppressive features of that rule. In short:

[…]

4. Take Back the Streets: Crush Criminals. And by this I mean, of course, not “white collar criminals” or “inside traders” but violent street criminals - robbers, muggers, rapists, murderers. Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error.

5. Take Back the Streets: Get Rid of the Bums. Again: unleash the cops to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares? Hopefully, they will disappear, that is, move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society.

I suppose he saw no internal contradictions there.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:24:22pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I prefer to call them great uncle or great aunt so and so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:25:11pm

re: #39 Nyet

Speaking of Rothbard (who was a racist):

I suppose he saw no internal contradictions there.

i believe Lew Rockwell was his protege. Rockwell is the one alleged to have written the racist crap for Ron Paul.

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Jenner7  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:26:51pm

So, naturally this is how police respond:

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:26:54pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

If you look at the beginning of that article, you’ll see Rothbard’s paean to David Duke.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:27:14pm

I should call this show…

“How will you identify illegal immigrants?”

——————————————-

So. Who remembers that bomb threat called in that got the Statue of Liberty evacuated back in April? Seems like the guy has been identified. A deaf guy with some obvious issues.

cnn.com

In the call, Smith identified himself as “Abdul Yasin,” described himself as an “ISI terrorist” and conveyed a threat to “blow up” the Statue of Liberty, Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a statement.

He even posted about it that day.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:27:21pm

re: #42 Jenner7

What the hell is wrong with Missouri.

Evening Lizardim.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:27:36pm

re: #39 Nyet

Speaking of Rothbard (who was a racist):

I suppose he saw no internal contradictions there.

Don’t let Trump see this. It’ll be in next weeks manifesto. It’s the sort of thing the wingnut base would swoon over. I like the way he exempts the guys who do the most damage to society.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:28:32pm

re: #42 Jenner7

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:29:39pm
“It tickles doesn’t it, Mister Mickelson?”
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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:30:02pm

Intimidation, plain and simple.

The DOJ had a report about this I thought.

Police just said, fuck you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:31:18pm

re: #48 De Kolta Chair

What the…?

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:33:07pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:34:54pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

their biggest one is the 16th. I’m sure they think Satan won a personal war when that one was finally ratified.

How they plan to fund a massive Military after the income tax is repealed is beyond me. They really don’t think things through, these nuts. Apparently, 15 Carrier fleets, dozens of multi-billion $$$ bombers, thousands of nukes, a multi-$$$ Trillion fighter plane fleet, and a million pairs of boots filled apparently has the ability to raise magic money from thin air and pay for itself.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:35:09pm

Rothbard’s ideal libertarian state is full of slaves and cops meting out instant punishment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:37:05pm

re: #52 Rocky-in-Connecticut

their biggest one is the 16th. I’m sure they think Satan won a personal war when that one was finally ratified.

How they plan to fund a massive Military after the income tax is repealed is beyond me. They really don’t think things through, these nuts. Apparently, 15 Carrier fleets, dozens of multi-billion $$$ bombers, thousands of nukes, a multi-$$$ Trillion fighter plane fleet, and a million pairs of boots filled apparently has the ability to raise magic money from thin air and pay for itself.

They think the Laffer Curve asymptotically approaches infinite tax revenues as it approaches zero tax rate.

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:37:14pm

From the top:

We would take a lesson from Sheriff [Joe] Arpaio down in Arizona. Put up a tent village, we feed and water these new assets, we give them minimal shelter, minimal nutrition, and offer them the opportunity to work for the benefit of the taxpayers of the state of Iowa.

Anybody who takes a lesson from Joe Arpaio on treatment of humans should have to live in Joe’s tents, including Joe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:38:50pm

re: #53 Nyet

Rothbard’s ideal libertarian state is full of slaves and cops meting out instant punishment.

That explains why some Libertarians define the Libertarian Golden Age in America as prior to 1840.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:39:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:42:32pm

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

That explains why some Libertarians define the Libertarian Golden Age in America as prior to 1840.

Yep. No protection of any kind for labor at all. FREEDOM if you’re wealthy and white but fucked if you’re anything else. It speaks to the authoritarianism that exists in that ideology that they so deny exists when they’re calling everyone else statists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:42:55pm

re: #52 Rocky-in-Connecticut

their biggest one is the 16th. I’m sure they think Satan won a personal war when that one was finally ratified.

How they plan to fund a massive Military after the income tax is repealed is beyond me. They really don’t think things through, these nuts. Apparently, 15 Carrier fleets, dozens of multi-billion $$$ bombers, thousands of nukes, a multi-$$$ Trillion fighter plane fleet, and a million pairs of boots filled apparently has the ability to raise magic money from thin air and pay for itself.

The Mexicans/Iraqis/Iranians will pay for it all!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:43:05pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

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It’s a fucked up term.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:44:14pm
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bratwurst  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:45:01pm

At least they didn’t put a (D) after his name!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:46:28pm
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Jenner7  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:46:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:48:49pm

re: #64 Jenner7

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How long until they blame his wife for this.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:50:29pm

the awfulness of the right wing rhetoric literally has no bounds.

It has always been around, stirring around angry white man dinner tables and redneck juke joints, but now Trump has the effect of unleashing it from its chains and it is now out in full view for the entire world to see.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:50:30pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

How long until she’s had enough and decides to stick up for herself? Yeah. That won’t happen. Sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:51:06pm

re: #64 Jenner7

Saw that a high school teacher in my general region is also named.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:51:42pm

re: #67 GlutenFreeJesus

How long until she’s had enough and decides to stick up for herself? Yeah. That won’t happen. Sigh.

Yeah not in that culture sigh.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:54:09pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Saw that a high school teacher in my general region is also named.

May I ask where you are seeing the info?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:54:52pm

re: #70 #FergusonFireside

May I ask where you are seeing the info?

The Ashley Madison hackers have been tweeting names all afternoon.

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Stephen T.  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:55:47pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure they’ll start after the 19th at some point, soon. They already have Ann Coulter on board with that.

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nines09  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:57:15pm

I doubt that the RWNJ Cretin O Sphere will ever get the mask back on. These jackals are evil. Who advertises on these sewers?

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:59:44pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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Air seems even less protective than Styrofoam. My skepticism is somewhat assuaged in seeing that it has passed European safety tests. If the Snell Memorial Foundation approves, I’ll sell ‘em. Then my question will be, if it deploys only when needed, why not cover the face, too? Too unsellable that way?

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Bubblehead II  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:00:32pm

re: #64 Jenner7

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24 hour rule on this and any other that comes to light.

Adulterers antsy as ‘entire’ Ashley Madison databases leak online

“Journalists and commentators would be wise to remember that the credentials stored by Ashley Madison must be considered suspect because of their shonky practices, even before you start considering whether any leaked databases are falsified or not.”

As well as this.

Raja Bhatia, Ashley Madison’s founding CTO who today consults for the website’s team, is not convinced this leak is real. He told investigative journo Brian Krebs this evening that the site does not store credit card numbers. “If there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us, because we don’t even have that,” Bhatia added.

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:01:47pm

Jeb! Bush just earned himself a big ole cup of Shut the fuck up.

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:03:23pm

re: #64 Jenner7

I thought Ashley Madison was only for people who wanted to fuck other adults.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:03:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:04:47pm

re: #76 darthstar

Jeb! Bush just earned himself a big ole cup of Shut the fuck up.

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And there goes the one sort of redeeming quality Jeb had going for him. Nice knowing ya dickhead.

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BeachDem  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:05:03pm

re: #75 Bubblehead II

24 hour rule on this and any other that comes to light.

Adulterers antsy as ‘entire’ Ashley Madison databases leak online

“Journalists and commentators would be wise to remember that the credentials stored by Ashley Madison must be considered suspect because of their shonky practices, even before you start considering whether any leaked databases are falsified or not.”

As well as this.

Raja Bhatia, Ashley Madison’s founding CTO who today consults for the website’s team, is not convinced this leak is real. He told investigative journo Brian Krebs this evening that the site does not store credit card numbers. “If there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us, because we don’t even have that,” Bhatia added.

RISK ASSESSMENT / SECURITY & HACKTIVISM
Ashley Madison hack is not only real, it’s worse than we thought

“The biggest indicators to legitimacy comes from these internal documents, much containing sensitive internal data relating to the server infrastructure, org charts, and more,” TrustedSec researcher Dave Kennedy wrote in a blog post.

Kennedy, who additionally said four Ashley Madison subscribers told him they found their data in the leak, isn’t the only one to confirm its authenticity. Both Errata Security CEO Rob Graham and security journalist Brian Krebs have reported Ashley Madison subscribers telling them the last four digits of their credit cards were included in the files.

arstechnica.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:05:26pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

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That’s not fair. Big Chief knew he was nuts so he committed himself. Mickelson and his fans think he’s a truth teller.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:05:51pm

re: #77 darthstar

I thought Ashley Madison was only for people who wanted to fuck other adults.

Hey, I thought Ashley Madison was only for people who wanted ruin families, break solemn promises and betray their spouses. What else could possibly be wrong with a site like that?

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:06:00pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

And there goes the one sort of redeeming quality Jeb had going for him. Nice knowing ya dickhead.

Immigrating to the US is an act of love…but dropping an anchor baby is a bridge too far, apparently.

Jeb! is desperate and will soon be chasing Jindal off the bottom rung of the ladder.

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:06:56pm

re: #82 Great White Snark

Hey, I thought Ashley Madison was only for people who wanted ruin families, break solemn promises and betray their spouses. What else could possibly be wrong with a site like that?

As long as you do it in Jesus’ name, nothing.

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:07:51pm

That is a great .gif on the Goldie Taylor tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:08:24pm

re: #83 darthstar

Immigrating to the US is an act of love…but dropping an anchor baby is a bridge too far, apparently.

Jeb! is desperate and will soon be chasing Jindal off the bottom rung of the ladder.

Yeah he is desperate. Fucker.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:08:40pm
33 million accounts

*whistle*

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:09:59pm

re: #87 Nyet

*whistle*

I hope they show that Duggar was hooking up with one of Huck’s kids through that site. That would be perfect.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:10:44pm

re: #87 Nyet

“Thousands of fictional female members” hahaha oldest scam in the world, as relates to oldest profession.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:13:10pm

re: #80 BeachDem

Interesting. Still going to give it the 24 hr rule though. Even the hackers are saying some of these accounts may be false. Though I wouldn’t put it past Josh to have had an account or two. From the same link

The hackers do say that just because someone’s email address is in the files doesn’t necessarily mean that they had an affair, merely that they may have been trying to. There’s also the very real possibility that the email addresses may not be real - because the website did not validate people’s email addresses, apparently.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:15:33pm

re: #90 Bubblehead II

They can trace back the IP addresses.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:23:17pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

I was thinking more like adjunct professors in today’s universities.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:28:12pm
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vgranucci  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:30:36pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I’m actually surprised we haven’t had someone come out for repeal of the 17th Amendment yet.

As has been noted, the RW think tanks have been proposing that for years. I think it’s because it’s cheaper to buy state legislators than federal.

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:36:22pm

I final solution to the immigration problem.

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TedStriker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:41:34pm

re: #64 Jenner7

Why does it not surprise me?

Hell, compared to what he’s been accused of previously, this almost makes him look normal.

Almost.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:42:11pm

re: #52 Rocky-in-Connecticut

their biggest one is the 16th. I’m sure they think Satan won a personal war when that one was finally ratified.

How they plan to fund a massive Military after the income tax is repealed is beyond me. They really don’t think things through, these nuts. Apparently, 15 Carrier fleets, dozens of multi-billion $$$ bombers, thousands of nukes, a multi-$$$ Trillion fighter plane fleet, and a million pairs of boots filled apparently has the ability to raise magic money from thin air and pay for itself.

HURR HURR FAIR TAX!!!!!!

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TedStriker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:43:04pm

re: #77 darthstar

I thought Ashley Madison was only for people who wanted to fuck other adults.

AM markets themselves as the hookup site for cheaters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:47:31pm

re: #98 TedStriker

AM markets themselves as the hookup site for cheaters.

They run commercials on regular television. I saw one where there’s a zombie couple, ‘just going through the motions’, then the wife signs up with AM, and next thing you know, she’s returned to the living.

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CriticalDragon1177  Aug 20, 2015 • 9:28:50am

These guys are sick. Yeah, the illegals have “enslaved” everyone else by being here illegally, since we have to pay for social services that benefit them. Um, I take it that you think having to pay taxes than makes you a slave?

Even assuming that, that were true, that the people who are here illegally have some how enslaved everyone else, how exactly would that justify turning around and enslaving them? By that logic, if they could somehow pull it off, wouldn’t the black slaves in the antebellum south have had the right, and been justified, if they could somehow have turned around and enslaved white Americans? Jan Mickelson, I’m just using your ridiculous “logic” here.

Oh and what’s wrong with slavery? How about the fact that it robs people of their dignity and treats human beings as nothing but property who have no rights?

Also seriously have either of these two clowns actually read the 13th amendment?

AMENDMENT XIII

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Transcript of 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Abolition of Slavery (1865)

Unless they’re basically willing to try everyone who entered the country illegally or overstayed their visa in a court of law, I can’t see how any remotely reasonable person who actually read it, could possibly think that forcing them into involuntary servitude of any kind wouldn’t violate the 13th amendment. What they are suggesting is so clearly unconstitutional that you would have to either completely ignore what the constitution says, or do the most extreme mental gymnastics possible to argue that it doesn’t violate it, and even than you wouldn’t be very convincing.

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meteor  Aug 20, 2015 • 7:43:48pm

I thought vampires couldn’t go out in the sun.

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CriticalDragon1177  Aug 20, 2015 • 8:59:34pm

re: #101 meteor

Some can. It depends on what fictional universe they live in.


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