Ben Carson Wants to Use Drones to Drop Bombs On American Soil To Protect the Border

The Trump factor

GOP hopeful Ben Carson has decided that Donald Trump’s outrageous and extreme positions on immigration aren’t sufficiently Trump-y enough. Therefore, Carson has decided to out-Trump him:

Behold, let’s carry out UAV strikes on US territory to secure US border.

You get the feeling that Carson has never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act? But certainly Carson does appear to be aiming to create and maintain a police state, complete with airstrikes against undesirables within our borders.

He’s hit the daily double for derp with this.

It’s yet another reason why the GOP is so completely off the rails and can’t be trusted to govern.

UPDATE at 8/19/15 10:19:20 am by lawhawk

More context:

This is no one-off the cuff claim that he’s going to be able to easily walk back. He’s talking about doing anything possible, up to and including drone strikes within the US, to secure the border.

I can’t help but think of the movie Escape from LA and how it portrayed a US that was turned into a theocracy following a natural disaster and put up walls to secure the border and deported or killed undesirables. This is the very kind of dystopian future that the GOP is reaching for.

UPDATE at 8/19/15 10:29:23 am by lawhawk

Additional context would seem to leave the door open to using drone strikes and that Carson is pointing to the use of drones (UAVs) to secure our borders as part of a broader tech solution.

The problem is that we’ve already been trying the technological solutions, and they’ve been a big failure. We already use UAVs for monitoring the border but their use has been ineffective.

For nearly a decade, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection has touted its drone program as an “effective technology to further enhance operational capabilities,” but according to the agency’s 2014 end of fiscal year report, the results are anything but impressive, fueling new calls for the program to be grounded.

The program has a fleet of 9 Predator drones and the Department of Homeland Security is planning to spend another $443 million for more aircraft to help secure the Mexican border. But a Jan. 6 report from the agency’s inspector general is advising against the expansion.

“Notwithstanding the significant investment, we see no evidence that the drones contribute to a more secure border, and there is no reason to invest additional taxpayer funds at this time,” said DHS Inspector General John Roth. “Securing our borders is a crucial mission for CBP and DHS. CBP’s drone program has so far fallen far short of being an asset to that effort.”

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383 comments

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Jayleia  Aug 19, 2015 • 10:42:24am

These are the same people that insist that Obama is gonna drone strike you any minute now…assuming he doesn’t death panel you, or send in his army of illegals+gang bangers and Tier 1 operators on you for clinging to guns and religion.

And one of their dudes goes and says “Everything you were afraid Obama would do in the US? *I’ll* do it…don’t worry, I’m just gonna do it to the brown people”, and they’re just gonna sit there and yip their approval like a bunch of brainless fascists.

Which they are.

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:29:07pm

Some of these people might get hit if Dr. Carson bombed the border.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 2:49:22pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

I’m a Cochise County resident and employee, and I know every person in that photo. I am seriously unimpressed with all of them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:06:31pm

Oh just shut the fuck up already and go back to doing neurosurgery. Man though what a horrific statement.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:06:49pm

Here Ben, knock yourself out.


So just maybe that’s my middle finger.
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:09:47pm

apparently we have reached the stage of the republic party campaign where the candidates are about to discover that trying to out-racist trump wont work either

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:11:14pm

Notwithstanding the significant investment, we see no evidence that the drones contribute to a more secure border

i think what ben has in mind is machine gunning people with them

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:16:42pm

re: #3 DesertDenizen

I’m a Cochise County resident and employee, and I know every person in that photo. I am seriously unimpressed with all of them.

Any chance Dr.Carson is learning something?

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darthstar  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:16:45pm

Hillary blew this tweet. She should have said “US Citizens”

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:17:26pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:18:01pm

This is what you get when you turn your presidential primary season into amateur hour, you get a “strong” bench that consists of all the mouthbreathers in the party whose every “proposal” would get laughed out of any serious policy discussion meeting.

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KGxvi  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:19:52pm

so, I just went over to On the Issues, to look up other things Carson has said, this jumped out at me:

Let the economy work the way it’s supposed to. (Jan 2014)
The free market works. (Jan 2014)
1990s deregulation paved way for 2008 economic meltdown. (Jan 2012)

Consistency is apparently not his forte…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:20:40pm

re: #12 KGxvi

so, I just went over to On the Issues, to look up other things Carson has said, this jumped out at me:

Consistency is apparently not his forte…

He’s simply not qualified for office.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:21:29pm

At times I am shocked that most tea party fanatics like Carson simply can’t comprehend that undocumented immigration is essentially a misdemeanor offense.
I guess they would also be fine with local police forces conducting summary executions for homeless people sleeping in public parks,

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:23:20pm

re: #8 wrenchwench
Not from that group. The Sheriff is grandstanding for funds, the other two elected officials make SpongeBob’s friend Patrick look like a genius, and the rancher with his back to the camera claims 100,000 people enter the country illegally through his ranch each year. For reference, that’s one every five minutes, non stop, just on his ranch.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:26:16pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

At times I am shocked that most tea party fanatics like Carson simply can’t comprehend that undocumented immigration is essentially a misdemeanor offense.
I guess they would also be fine with local police forces conducting summary executions for homeless people sleeping in public parks,

They think it’s the worst possible crime. Agh. And of course virtually none of them want to crack down on the businesses that exploit these people either so go figure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:27:05pm

re: #15 DesertDenizen

Who is the woman whose face is all scrunched up like she smells something bad?

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:31:06pm

In case you haven’t heard, Carly is in big trouble today for a speech she gave back in 2001:

Today’s Carly Fiorina news: Many conservatives are voicing outrage about a speech Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina gave shortly after the 9/11 attacks expressing her concern over the safety of Hewlett-Packard colleagues “who are of Middle Eastern descent or who practice the Muslim religion here in the US and abroad.” In her Sept. 26, 2001 speech, Fiorina said that the “gifts [of Muslim civilizations] are very much a part of our heritage.” […]

cleveland.com

Quelle horreur!!

As soon as another wingnut commentator spewed some nastiness, ex-congresswoman Michele Bachmann is mentioned in the article as having also jumped on the outrage train. I bet it won’t take her & Frank Gaffney long to uncover whatever Muslim Brotherhood ties Carly may have… //

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:32:18pm

re: #15 DesertDenizen

Not from that group. The Sheriff is grandstanding for funds, the other two elected officials make SpongeBob’s friend Patrick look like a genius, and the rancher with his back to the camera claims 100,000 people enter the country illegally through his ranch each year. For reference, that’s one every five minutes, non stop, just on his ranch.

Here’s another photo, although it doesn’t sound like you need to see any of these people again.

I’m sure the sense of urgency seems higher when it’s 115 degrees Fahrenheit. I notice that even the Dr. is in short sleeves.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:33:13pm

re: #18 CuriousLurker

In case you haven’t heard, Carly is in big trouble today for a speech she gave back in 2001:

Quelle horreur!!

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As soon as another wingnut commentator spewed some nastiness, ex-congresswoman Michele Bachmann is mentioned in the article as having also jumped on the outrage train. I bet it won’t take her & Frank Gaffney long to uncover whatever Muslim Brotherhood ties Carly may have… //

This is what ruins you in Republican circles not ya know saying we should use drones on the border or getting rid of a 150 year old policy involving children of immigrants but say some nice things about Muslims and oh no. Not that I feel sorry for Fiorina since she’s part of a truly awful party but that positive language about Muslims damages you more than xenophobia says a lot about that party and the direction they’re going in.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:34:58pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Heh, yeah, she’s toast.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:37:07pm

re: #21 CuriousLurker
CL, did you see this?

Ani Zonneveld
Imam; Founder and President, Muslims for Progressive Values

The Governance of ISIS and Much of the Muslim World Are Uncomfortably Similar
huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:37:29pm

re: #21 CuriousLurker

Heh, yeah, she’s toast.

Yep.

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:38:00pm

re: #18 CuriousLurker

gifts [of Muslim civilizations] are very much a part of our heritage

How’d we get Muslims in our heritage?!? Get ‘em out! Get ‘em out!

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:39:36pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

Al Gebra scared the hell out of me in school.
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:39:59pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

How’d we get Muslims in our heritage?!? Get ‘em out! Get ‘em out!

How many contributions to our civilization come from Muslims? ZERO!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:40:13pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

How’d we get Muslims in our heritage?!? Get ‘em out! Get ‘em out!

I don’t want to learn to write new numbers…

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:40:18pm

re: #22 Great White Snark

CL, did you see this?

Ani Zonneveld
Imam; Founder and President, Muslims for Progressive Values

The Governance of ISIS and Much of the Muslim World Are Uncomfortably Similar
huffingtonpost.com

No, I hadn’t (I stopped reading HuffPo a few years ago, but I’ll take a look). I’ve never heard of the author of the post or her group, so I’ll reserve judgement until I find out who she is and what she’s about.

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:41:27pm

re: #25 Great White Snark

Al Gebra Al Jabr scared the hell out of me in school.
//

Fixed for historical accuracy.
Also seconded…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:41:27pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t want to learn to write new numbers…

“Maximus, are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?”

“V.”

“HE’S OKAY!!”

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Jenner7  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:42:10pm

Trump’s on CNN.

CHYna

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:43:43pm

I don’t wanna say southern Arizona is a bit sleepy now, but Carson’s lunch made the news.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:44:12pm

re: #29 Archangelus

Fixed for historical accuracy.
Also seconded…

thirded.

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:44:58pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

“Maximus, are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?”

“V.”

“HE’S OKAY!!”

Shmuel, are you okay? How many fingers am i holding up?

“חמש”

GET HIM!!!!1 /

Same with Jews as with Arabs and with anything that’s ‘different’ really, anything other than so-called “Christian heritage”…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:45:47pm

re: #25 Great White Snark

Al Gebra scared the hell out of me in school.
//

The nadir of your school experience, so to speak.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:46:03pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s our State Senator, Gail Griffin. She always looks like that, and does a poor job representing us in Phoenix.

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Jenner7  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:46:33pm
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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:47:35pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t want to learn to write new numbers…

LOL, I was just thinking, “Man, it’s gonna be a major PITA to change all our page numbers, math, clocks & wristwatches, house & apartment numbers… We’re gonna have to come up with a new name for alcohol too… Sheesh.

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TedStriker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:47:35pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

They think it’s the worst possible crime. Agh. And of course virtually none of them want to crack down on the businesses that exploit these people either so go figure.

Why would they? I’d wager that many businesses that exploit illegal immigrant labor are run by conservatives/TPers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:48:06pm

re: #37 Jenner7

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So it begins.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:48:15pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

We’re almost a mile high here, and much cooler. There are several people I respect in that photo, including a County Supervisor, the County Administrator, and other staff. One is a friend who I’m sure is choking back her outrage. I’ll have to ask her about it tomorrow.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:48:26pm

re: #29 Archangelus

Fixed for historical accuracy.
Also seconded…

Hey, he was just pronouncing it with an Egyptian accent. //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:49:59pm

re: #39 TedStriker

Why would they? I’d wager that many businesses that exploit illegal immigrant labor are run by conservatives/TPers.

Campaign donors too.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:50:17pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

I don’t wanna say southern Arizona is a bit sleepy now, but Carson’s lunch made the news.

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The Tapadera Lounge sounds fun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:50:37pm

Just heads up, there is a Twitter troll account IStandWithPP with “I Stand With Planned Parenthood” as its avi and all it does is retweet, over and over, some quote of Margaret Sanger saying that Planned Parenthood clinics in her day did not perform abortions.

That’s it, over and over and over.

Because it was, duh ILLEGAL then.

It crawled into my timeline and I blocked it.

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:51:03pm

re: #37 Jenner7

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Trump’s kindred spirits…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:51:28pm

re: #41 DesertDenizen

We’re almost a mile high here, and much cooler. There are several people I respect in that photo, including a County Supervisor, the County Administrator, and other staff. One is a friend who I’m sure is choking back her outrage. I’ll have to ask her about it tomorrow.

You will have to report back here, you know.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:52:10pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Just heads up, there is a Twitter troll account @IStandWithPP with “I Stand With Planned Parenthood” as its avi and all it does is retweet, over and over, some quote of Margaret Sanger saying that Planned Parenthood clinics in her day did not perform abortions.

That’s it, over and over and over.

Because it was, duh ILLEGAL then.

It crawled into my timeline and I blocked it.

So now they want to use Margaret Sanger.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:52:48pm

re: #37 Jenner7

Two brothers assault homeless Latino man. One told police, “Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported.”

“Scott also said he was arrest[ed] because white people always are and never the minorities.”

I assume that he is referring to that it seems minorities are being killed by the Police, instead of being arrested…
Nah, that can’t be it

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:52:50pm

The Shaun King controversy has reached Snopes…

m.snopes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:54:31pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

So now they want to use Margaret Sanger.

Yeah because PP clinics in her day didn’t perform abortions because it was against the law, means she was anti-abortion or something.

@IStandWithPP is a legitimate Twitter account, but there is a troll account using a pink PP avi that is spamming all this shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:54:47pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

LOL, I was just thinking, “Man, it’s gonna be a major PITA to change all our page numbers, math, clocks & wristwatches, house & apartment numbers… We’re gonna have to come up with a new name for alcohol too… Sheesh.

I guess I’d have to stick with my 1871 Elgin BW Raymond, and not the 1950 or 1961…

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:56:52pm

re: #37 Jenner7

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Words matter. Broadcast words matter more.

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Mattand  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:56:57pm

Some chucklehead left a “Stand with Ben” postcard at my post office the other day, propped up for all to see. It promptly went in recycling.

I can unequivocally state, using my years in the graphics industry, that Dr. Carson ain’t spending a dime on graphic design.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:58:31pm

The bogus Twitter account is @istandwpp

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 3:59:46pm

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah because PP clinics in her day didn’t perform abortions because it was against the law, means she was anti-abortion or something.

@IStandWithPP is a legitimate Twitter account, but there is a troll account using a pink PP avi that is spamming all this shit.

Yeah figured. Fuckers.

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kirkspencer  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:02:42pm

re: #12 KGxvi

so, I just went over to On the Issues, to look up other things Carson has said, this jumped out at me:

Consistency is apparently not his forte…

OK, I have to defend to condemn. See, he was being consistent. An unmanaged economy does, indeed, go through these busts followed by booms. Take a look sometime at the list of recessions in, oh, the 1800s just for an example. Every couple of years, followed by a couple of years when things went well, back and forth.

The condemnation? The reason most of the US citizens didn’t die is the majority grew their own food. Even so, the ebb and flow moved the land of many into the hands of those who had enough to lend in the good (and survive the bad).

Paraphrased, it’s Biblical. Those who have, get. And the poor? well, they’ll be with us always so why should we care? (Sarcasm, by the way. Just in case your meter’s broken.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:03:31pm

re: #54 Mattand

Some chucklehead left a “Stand with Ben” postcard at my post office the other day, propped up for all to see. It promptly went in recycling.

I can unequivocally state, using my years in the graphics industry, that Dr. Carson ain’t spending a dime on graphic design.

I don’t think he’s spending much on advisers either.

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:05:25pm

Lesson for the day.

Attack TRUMP® and your numbers go down.

It’s a very high honor.

And that Cruz boy, he’s nice to me, shines my shoes in fact, and his numbers go up.

And when I am president I will get the bad guys out of here so fast your heads will spin.

I will use anchor baby, thank you.

Mitt let us down, he choked, he should have won that election.

I’m not going anywhere folks. I don’t want your money, I want to make America Great Again. Again is a very important word.

It’ll be great. No incompetents.

(This has been a quick revue of the Trump presser 8-19-2015)

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:09:42pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

(This has been a quick revue of the Trump presser 8-19-2015)

This message fully supported and brought to you by the US Association of Democrats for Donald Trump’s 2016 GOP Presidential Candidacy
/onlykinda

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:10:12pm

List of films by gory death scene
Pretty detailed, so trigger warning and all that.

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:11:07pm

re: #3 DesertDenizen

Cochise has pretty much gone full metal wingnut over the last decade and did a lot to help McSally knock off Barber in the last Congressional race. I feel you’re pain over here in Pima County.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:12:15pm

You know what’s weird about all the ZOMG Muslims are threatening our way of life stuff? Last night I was watching the video below about the Mayas, and it told the story of how their hieroglyphic writing was lost, thanks to European Christians.

I already knew how badly New World cultures had been decimated by the arrival of the Europeans, but I’d kinda forgotten how truly brutal it was. I mean they were basically the Da’esh of the 16th century—religious fanatics (Spanish Inquisition) who set about torturing & murdering the natives in the most horrible ways imaginable to force them to submit to their Christian world view. They burned libraries full of books, destroyed artwork they found offensive…

They were exactly like the Taliban, ISIS, etc. *shudder*

Anyway, it starts around the 03:00 mark:

National Geographic Documentary - The Maya: The Lost Civilization [Documentary 2015]

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wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:12:32pm
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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:13:12pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

The bogus Twitter account is @istandwpp

Blocked ‘em, thx.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:15:15pm

The rate of new article creation cannot keep up with the flow of New Crazy. Gonna’ be a long year.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:16:09pm

Oh look who was in the Ashley Madison hack==>

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:16:09pm

re: #61 Nyet

List of films by gory death scene
Pretty detailed, so trigger warning and all that.

The Mangler, the Stephen King story (not the movie, passed on that) was terrifying. It was listed tho.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:18:36pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who was in the Ashley Madison hack==>

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Yeah. You’d expect him on nickelodeon.com.

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:21:29pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who was in the Ashley Madison hack==>

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You mean a disgusting excuse of a man made use of a disgusting excuse of a web service? I am shocked! //

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:22:57pm

re: #62 piratedan

The County itself isn’t bad, especially compared to Maricopa, but we keep electing state representatives and senators who don’t represent us. They keep selling us out to Phoenix. Outside of the Sierra Vista / Fort Huachuca area, the County is pretty live and let live, small l libertarian rather than authoritarian wingnut. The racism is usually imported, as old timers grew up for generations in a border community, and are often at least semi bilingual.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:24:53pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

After going on the trail like this and making the statements he’s made, I don’t think there’s an insurance company who would be willing to underwrite this man carrying anything that can possibly look like a knife within 1 mile of an operating theater.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:30:16pm
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bratwurst  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:30:44pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:33:05pm

re: #74 bratwurst

Guess we gotta dig out that CNN special video that’s only supposed to play for the end of the world…..

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:35:03pm

Heh, Trump just said “they” have increased venue size three times to get to a building that can have 30,000 folks in Alabama come to one of his gigs.

I wonder if Decatur Deb is going? Once in a lifetime!

And with that..later folks. Gonna get some stuff done. I’m all trumped out for the evening.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:35:30pm

OFFS wingnuts are so easily taken in by fake displays of flag-fucking.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:37:58pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:39:28pm

re: #78 Bubblehead II

The bears saw the Trump numbers, and they’re hibernating for the apocalypse.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:39:30pm

re: #73 Eric The Fruit Bat

Thread needs moar live service puppehs.

Seems like we both like this site. Many live nature feeds here.

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KGxvi  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:39:34pm

re: #74 bratwurst

Personally, I see it as hope for the future.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:39:41pm

Trump flag fucking==>

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:42:07pm

re: #71 DesertDenizen

well Pima county has been trending purple but the lead that Barber had in Pima was matched by the numbers that McSally posted in Cochise, hence the rzaor thin win for Martha.

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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:42:20pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS wingnuts are so easily taken in by fake displays of flag-fucking.

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And just like St. Ron, Trump is an accomplished bullshit artist who can’t be trusted to do anything unless there’s somebody there to hold his hand.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:42:47pm

re: #80 Bubblehead II

Here’s one of my fave.

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TedStriker  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:44:07pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

Trump flag fucking==>

Did he wipe his mouth on it like St. Ronnie of Raygun did?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:46:35pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS wingnuts are so easily taken in by fake displays of flag-fucking.

weird to see wingnuts orgasming over trump in a way they havent since saint ronald walked the earth

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thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:46:58pm

re: #85 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s one of my fave.

Great palate cleanser for us cat lovers.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:47:36pm

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

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Archangelus  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:47:45pm

re: #75 Eric The Fruit Bat

Guess we gotta dig out that CNN special video that’s only supposed to play for the end of the world…..

I’d bet it’s probably not as good, or as tasteful, as the one by the Clamp Cable Network in Gremlins II …

End of Civilization Video

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:47:47pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS wingnuts are so easily taken in by fake displays of flag-fucking.

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I still say it looks like Ronnie’s using that flag to blow his nose.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:47:48pm

re: #88 thedopefishlives

Yep-new litters every 3 months or so.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:48:52pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:49:03pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

Don’t. Just don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:49:51pm

re: #87 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

weird to see wingnuts orgasming over trump in a way they havent since saint ronald walked the earth

I actually think the two are very similar. Superficially charming and know how to pander to right wing bullshit quite well. Plus they have the Johnny come lately to conservative land thing going.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:50:23pm

re: #83 piratedan

True, it is very red here, but it’s not totally wingnutty. Problem is, people vote by party here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:50:53pm

White racist has a sad that everyone is ignoring his Shaun King “bombshell”

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:51:38pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

We’ve got Wonkette & Gawker for that, which is just fine. Lizards who want to know, will know.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:52:44pm

haaaaaaaa

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:53:53pm

oh

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:54:37pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

You forgot to add: “self-hating gay man who would take away same-sex-couples rights to marry and insist that gays and lesbians go back in the closet.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:57:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 4:58:43pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Milo Yiannopuolos is a seriously creepy individual.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:00:29pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Milo makes Andrew Sullivan looks seriously enlightened, and that’s with Sully’s more serious failings WRT Murray’s “The Bell Curve”.

And since he’s in league with the Rage Furby and weev, that’s all you need to know.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:01:12pm

Maybe quoting domestic terrorists is not such a good idea…

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Amory Blaine  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:02:00pm

Ma brought over a lemon meringue pie over for my b-day today. Nice and tart so it goes good with coffee.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:03:59pm

Judge repeats gun rights slogan during sentencing for illegal buys

In giving probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license, a federal judge delivered a message:

“People kill people,” U.S. District Rudolph Randa said, echoing a common gun rights slogan. “Guns don’t kill people.”

Dontray Mills, 24, purchased a total of 27 firearms, mostly handguns, between December 2012 and April 2014 and pleaded guilty to one of the charges on April 22, 2014, after an ATF investigation. As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.

On Wednesday, he was sentenced. As part of the plea bargain, prosecutors agreed with the one year of probation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:04:26pm

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

White racist has a sad that everyone is ignoring his Shaun King “bombshell”

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Man he’s desperate.Sad little troll.

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S'latch  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:04:33pm

Maybe this is true, but now, nothing anyone says about Ben Carson will ever change my mind about him.

Ever since I heard him sing “One Wittle Wee Wee,” I just love him!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:05:01pm

re: #74 bratwurst

It was a good run America

Nah. North Carolina.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:06:53pm

Well, it’s been a strange week. Woke-up Monday to the most horrible sound. Investigation found 16 yo Feline Overlord sitting in a pool of his own u-know-what. Needless to say, he has gone over the Rainbow Bridge.

21 yo son is moving out for the first time to finish college away.

I binged True Detective and Penny Dreadful and tried my best to avoid reality for the weekend and early week.

Did I miss anything I should know about?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:07:28pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:07:29pm

re: #107 Amory Blaine

Judge repeats gun rights slogan during sentencing for illegal buys


“….As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.”

Well, that’ll stop him dead.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:07:59pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb


“….As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.”

Well, that’ll stop him dead.

hmmmm, did he ever buy them legally?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:08:36pm

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Ma brought over a lemon meringue pie over for my b-day today. Nice and tart so it goes good with coffee.

Baba Alouette is your Ma?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:08:49pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

He just reeks of skeeviness.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:10:20pm

re: #107 Amory Blaine

That’s a US District Judge who is in serious need of a competence hearing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:10:32pm

Clinton’s Self-Inflicted Wounds
Wall Street Journal - 𠃡 hour ago‎
Asked Tuesday if she had wiped her server to delete the emails she had sent while serving as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton should have said “yes” or “no.

also, this war hero thing will finish trump fer sure

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:10:36pm

Duggar was just on that evil site to bring the Good News to the working girls.

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:11:02pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

my sympathy for your losses, I understand the empty nesting syndrome and now sans a feline overlord, it probably just seems empty. I hope that you can simply take the time to think about the good times and wrap yourself in the knowledge that it was time for each and that while this is and end to the chapter, by no means is the story complete.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:11:28pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Sorry about the Rainbow Bridge scenario.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:11:29pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Really sorry to hear about your kitty. :( They always take a piece of our hearts with them.

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:11:49pm

Had to share. I was looking for the Vine or YouTube video of the dog that put his paw up to stop the guitar playing so I could send it to my buddy the dog trainer.

I found this…Trench and Maple Vine Collection YouTube.

Trench and Maple Collabs Vine Compilation

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:12:37pm

re: #116 Eric The Fruit Bat

He just reeks of skeeviness.

What’s his point anyhow? That you have to be fully black to lead a movement that has a problem with cops not being prosecuted for killing unarmed people. Man he’s sad. Didn’t know this was the self loathing gay dude in league with Chucky.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:13:00pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, it’s been a strange week. Woke-up Monday to the most horrible sound. Investigation found 16 yo Feline Overlord sitting in a pool of his own u-know-what. Needless to say, he has gone over the Rainbow Bridge.

21 yo son is moving out for the first time to finish college away.

I binged True Detective and Penny Dreadful and tried my best to avoid reality for the weekend and early week.

Did I miss anything I should know about?

{hugs}

It’s always tough to endure the loss of a furry family member.

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Varek Raith  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:14:25pm

Good evening.
Canon Rock violin

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:14:37pm

re: #125 thedopefishlives

{hugs}

It’s always tough to endure the loss of a furry family member.

It was a big shock. He had a check-up and perfect blood work just last week.

We think he had a stroke.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:16:09pm

re: #127 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It was a big shock. He had a check-up and perfect blood work just last week.

We think he had a stroke.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

At that age, when they go downhill, it is frequently very fast. Sadly. :(

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:16:54pm

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

skeevy
adjective skee*vy ˈskē-vē
skeev*i*erskeev*i*est

slang
: morally or physically repulsive : disgusting, sleazy

Origin of SKEEVY - Italian schifo disgust & schifare to sicken, disgust
First Known Use: 1976

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Amory Blaine  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:17:30pm

re: #117 Eric The Fruit Bat

Judge Randa is a total wingnut.

Judge of the Day: Rudolph Randa

It’s hard out here for an immigrant. Arizona has immigrants in the crosshairs, as we all know. Immigrants might also be unable to clerk for federal judges (or at least get paid for it).

And when they commit crimes and get sentenced, immigrants are sometimes subjected to snide remarks by judges. The Seventh Circuit recently vacated a sentence and remanded for resentencing by a different judge, after trial judge Rudolph Randa (E.D. Wis.) made some unfortunate comments in sentencing defendant Jose Figueroa. From the Seventh Circuit opinion, by the fabulous Judge Diane Wood:

During the hearing, the district court digressed to discuss Figueroa’s native Mexico, the immigration status of Figueroa and his sisters, and the conditions and laws in half a dozen other countries—not to mention unnecessary references to Hugo Chávez, Iranian terrorists, and Adolf Hitler’s dog.

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lawhawk  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:17:38pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

Haven’t sorted through the hack there, but were passwords also revealed? I’m asking because if they were, and military emails were also involved, that exposes any number of government agencies and accounts to hacking by others.

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:19:33pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, it’s been a strange week. Woke-up Monday to the most horrible sound. Investigation found 16 yo Feline Overlord sitting in a pool of his own u-know-what. Needless to say, he has gone over the Rainbow Bridge.

21 yo son is moving out for the first time to finish college away.

I binged True Detective and Penny Dreadful and tried my best to avoid reality for the weekend and early week.

Did I miss anything I should know about?

Awww, Sorry to hear about the Kat. We know how much you love animals.

I’m sure you’re going to miss your son too, but it’s great to hear he is heading out on his own too. It means you raised him well.

Oh…TRUMP is taking over the world…not just the world of US politics.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:20:10pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

My condolences. Be extra good to yourself.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:20:41pm

re: #127 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It was a big shock. He had a check-up and perfect blood work just last week.

We think he had a stroke.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

So sorry GGT.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:21:46pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

What’s his point anyhow? That you have to be fully black to lead a movement that has a problem with cops not being prosecuted for killing unarmed people. Man he’s sad. Didn’t know this was the self loathing gay dude in league with Chucky.

It’s worse than that. Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:22:06pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:22:11pm
my kitty
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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:22:58pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

It’s worse than that. Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

Oh well fuck that shit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:23:23pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

It’s worse than that. Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

The subtext here is HURR HURR TEH BLAHS IS SO STUPIDS THEY NEEDS A WHITE MAN 2 LEAD THEM AROUND!!!!1!!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:23:53pm

re: #132 ObserverArt

Awww, Sorry to hear about the Kat. We know how much you love animals.

I’m sure you’re going to miss your son too, but it great to hear he is heading out on his own too. It means you raised him well.

Oh…TRUMP is taking over the world…not just the world of US politics.

Trump trumped the world?

Does he think he is relevant or something?

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:23:55pm

re: #37 Jenner7

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Southie. I can’t say I’m surprised.

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:24:52pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

Sme propose our society is heading to a time when keeping secrets will be almost impossible.

An interesting thing to ponder.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:25:34pm

I see Trump as the warm-up band to next years big show.

It’s all part of the never-ending political circus that keeps some people entertained and others employed.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:25:50pm

re: #142 freetoken

Sme propose our society is heading to a time when keeping secrets will be almost impossible.

An interesting thing to ponder.

Those who are so enthused about the Global Village have never lived in a village.

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:26:17pm

re: #140 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump trumped the world?

Does he think he is relevant or something?

It’s getting serious. Too many are thinking he is relevant. He sure isn’t going away. Even MSNBC follows his every move.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:26:57pm
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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:26:58pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

I remember Ross Perot.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:28:09pm

re: #142 freetoken

Sme propose our society is heading to a time when keeping secrets will be almost impossible.

An interesting thing to ponder.

Frankly, is there anything that really needs to be secret? I understand there are things that are really no one’s business.

Private and Secret are two different things.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:29:09pm

re: #143 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I see Trump as the warm-up band to next years big show.

It’s all part of the never-ending political circus that keeps some people entertained and others employed.

Really, Election Lalapalooza would be a better analogy.

150
Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:29:19pm

This is the encryption algorithm I’m using with private comments, in case anyone was wondering…

schneier.com

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:29:26pm

re: #147 freetoken

I remember Ross Perot.

Yeah. But the media wasn’t quite as starved for the viewers and there certainly wasn’t as much digital connectivity.

Believe me, I hope he is Ross Perot-like in final result.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:30:26pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

It’s worse than that. Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

There is no white race.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:31:07pm

hmm, can we have private messages in an age without secrets?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:31:43pm

Now Bill O-reilly is telling us about shark attacks.

Because there is nothing else to alarm people, I guess.

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stpaulbear  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:32:16pm

Cosmopolitan has a fairly long story about Twitchy.

The Right-Wing Hate Machine

“While intellectually I understand these are a bunch of nimrods and idiots who are literally being pointed in a direction and flung like a bunch of flying monkeys at it, it’s still overwhelming sometimes,” she said. “But I realized this is not about — in any reasonable measure was this about political engagement or debate or discourse or anything. It was just literally harassment. There was no other value to it. It was meant as harassment, because surely the people at Twitchy know what they’re doing.”

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:32:17pm

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Ma brought over a lemon meringue pie over for my b-day today. Nice and tart so it goes good with coffee.

Happy Birthday! Mine’s tomorrow.

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:32:39pm

re: #153 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

depends on your e-mail server and if it’s been subpeonaed

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:32:46pm

re: #154 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Now Bill O-reilly is telling us about shark attacks.

Because there is nothing else to alarm people, I guess.

OFFS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:33:10pm

Bring a live Detroit Tigers mascot animal into an old, abandoned auto plant for a photo shoot. What could possibly go wrong?

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:33:20pm

re: #152 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

There is no white race.

Biologically that’s true, but there is a social construct of race that very much affects different groups of people by building a hierarchy of practical rights even though there isn’t supposed to be a difference in legal rights.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:33:43pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

It’s worse than that. Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

It’s actually even worse than that. They’re trying to simultaneously paint him as a traitor to both blacks and whites.

And the woman behind this is a fucking overt racist and stalker.

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:33:54pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I’m sure it’s Obama’s fault

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:34:54pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Yiannopuolos & Co are casting Shaun King as a traitor to the white race without actually coming out and phrasing it in those exact terms.

Yiannopuolos, for being a MRA, looks at quite differently than other MRA’s. (wink)

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:35:39pm

Sort of like watching paint dry, but more floral:

WATCH: Corpse flower blooms at Denver Botanic Gardens

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:35:39pm

re: #127 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It was a big shock. He had a check-up and perfect blood work just last week.

We think he had a stroke.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

{GGT}

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:35:53pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I considered posting something about Josh Duggar being in the Ashley Madison doxx files, but even though it’s massively hypocritical (if true), I still am really bothered by exposing someone’s private information like this. Yes, even when it’s a creep like Duggar.

Trifecta of lowlifes. Child molesters, a cheat site and hackers. Modernity has plumbing for that, it’s called the sewage system.

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stpaulbear  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:35:57pm

re: #143 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I see Trump as the warm-up band to next years big show.

It’s all part of the never-ending political circus that keeps some people entertained and others employed.

Except that it’s like Led Zeppelin opening for Vanilla Fudge in 1968. Nobody cared about the Fudge once they’d seen Zep.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:36:07pm
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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:36:17pm

re: #163 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yiannopuolos is a tratior to those of his own kind.

You mean bigoted assholes?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:36:27pm

re: #162 piratedan

I’m sure it’s Obama’s fault

Is it ever not?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:36:50pm

re: #168 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Ice bucket challenge helped spur ALS discovery, scientists say

Hey what do you know.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:37:10pm

re: #164 freetoken

Sort of like watching paint dry, but more floral:

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Video

can we fast-forward?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:37:16pm

re: #146 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Sales Tax Holidays thru out the nation

Why am i not surprised?
Of course Mississippi has the official Yee-Haw..Pew, Pew, Pew… Sales Tax Holiday
Sep 4-6: Firearms, ammunition, hunting supplies

Edit: Well, what do you know, so does Louisiana

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:37:31pm

re: #167 stpaulbear

Except that it’s like Led Zeppelin opening for Vanilla Fudge in 1968. Nobody cared about the Fudge once they’d seen Zep.

Yeah, I think that will prove true for Trump as well.

I got that wrong.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:38:04pm

re: #166 Great White Snark

Trifecta of lowlifes. Child molesters, a cheat site and hackers. Modernity has plumbing for that, it’s called the sewage system.

What did the Ashley Madison site actually deliver to its subscribers? The makeup is said to be overwhelmingly men. Something must have kept the marks on the hook.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:39:29pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

What did the Ashley Madison site actually deliver to its subscribers? The makeup is said to be overwhelmingly men. Something must have kept the marks on the hook.

Other men pretending to be women?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:40:09pm

re: #160 b_sharp

Biologically that’s true, but there is a social construct of race that very much affects different groups of people by building a hierarchy of practical rights even though there isn’t supposed to be a difference in legal rights.

Yeah, and it pisses me off.

(In case you hadn’t noticed)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:40:55pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

OFFS.

31 people have died due to shark attacks (this year, I think).

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:41:09pm

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

Bring a live Detroit Tigers mascot animal into an old, abandoned auto plant for a photo shoot. What could possibly go wrong?

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hahaha

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thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:41:49pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

What did the Ashley Madison site actually deliver to its subscribers? The makeup is said to be overwhelmingly men. Something must have kept the marks on the hook.

The lure of illicit sex. Whether or not any was actually delivered, well, that is irrelevant. Just the idea of doing something scandalous is enough for some guys.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:42:09pm

re: #176 b_sharp

Other men pretending to be women?

Fair minority, I expect. The site was supposed to facilitate hookups, but where were the matches coming from?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:42:14pm

re: #169 b_sharp

Erm, Not quite.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:42:21pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Fake female members or so they say. Oldest con evah? Horny men and their money…. We can blame the victims but truly my disdain for the concept and promoters of the site defy even angry sailor+drill sarge English.

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A Cranky One  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:42:40pm

re: #142 freetoken

Sme propose our society is heading to a time when keeping secrets will be almost impossible.

An interesting thing to ponder.

I suspect we are there already. Many years ago I did some research and was startled to realize how much information about people was available. This was 30 years ago. One result of that research was an ongoing battle with various institutions (such as my kids colleges) to prevent SS numbers from being used as a ID number/key. Back then everyone asked for your SS and people readily supplied it. In fact, it was common to have it printed on checks. With current algorithms, they manage to compile the information without such a simple key.

Creeps me out when I look at a product online and then get presented for ads for those products even when using different computers at different places. Privacy has been an illusion for a while, most folks just don’t realize it. Worse, they advertise their lives to the world.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:43:20pm

re: #178 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

31 people have died due to shark attacks (this year, I think).

I understand. It’s just that gun violence is an actual problem and these same talking heads dismiss sensible gun control talk. But regarding sharks, it’s my understanding and maybe someone who understands the science more can help me but some of the rise in attacks has been attributed to the rising sea temperatures and pollution.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:43:57pm

Also binged Ascension —It’s like Horton Hear’s a Who in Sci-Fi.

Really interesting premise.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:44:33pm

re: #164 freetoken

Sort of like watching paint dry, but more floral:

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Video

I’m checking to see how long the video is, then see it’s live. Uh, no.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:44:41pm

re: #183 Great White Snark

Fake female members or so they say. Oldest con evah? Horny men and their money…. We can blame the victims but truly my disdain for the concept and promoters of the site defy even angry sailor+drill sarge English.

So naive male turnover must have been very high.

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Snarknado!  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:44:55pm

re: #127 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It was a big shock. He had a check-up and perfect blood work just last week.

We think he had a stroke.

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

So sorry to hear about the kitteh.

I had one who went slowly, though.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:45:19pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:45:53pm

re: #184 A Cranky One

I suspect we are there already. Many years ago I did some research and was startled to realize how much information about people was available. This was 30 years ago. One result of that research was an ongoing battle with various institutions (such as my kids colleges) to prevent SS numbers from being used as a ID number/key. Back then everyone asked for your SS and people readily supplied it. In fact, it was common to have it printed on checks. With current algorithms, they manage to compile the information without such a simple key.

Creeps me out when I look at a product online and then get presented for ads for those products even when using different computers at different places. Privacy has been an illusion for a while, most folks just don’t realize it. Worse, they advertise their lives to the world.

I’m more amazed that anyone really cares. I think the plethora of information available is a safeguard. The more information available, the more resources to sort what one might want to find. Most of us just are worth the expenditure.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:46:24pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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Thought it was a great piece too and quite revealing about Malkin and the environment she creates over there.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:46:45pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, it’s been a strange week. Woke-up Monday to the most horrible sound. Investigation found 16 yo Feline Overlord sitting in a pool of his own u-know-what. Needless to say, he has gone over the Rainbow Bridge.

Oh Dude so sorry…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:47:04pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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Cosmo has been hitting it lately. I don’t recall such excellence from them in a while.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:47:45pm

re: #184 A Cranky One

I suspect we are there already. Many years ago I did some research and was startled to realize how much information about people was available. This was 30 years ago. One result of that research was an ongoing battle with various institutions (such as my kids colleges) to prevent SS numbers from being used as a ID number/key. Back then everyone asked for your SS and people readily supplied it. In fact, it was common to have it printed on checks. With current algorithms, they manage to compile the information without such a simple key.

Creeps me out when I look at a product online and then get presented for ads for those products even when using different computers at different places. Privacy has been an illusion for a while, most folks just don’t realize it. Worse, they advertise their lives to the world.

For a few decades, the Army used SSAN as their serial number. They’ve stopped. As you said some colleges also used them as student ID. The SSAN is explicitly not to be used as ID for other purposes.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:49:04pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

Erm, Not quite.

You mean his own kind isn’t made up of bigoted assholes?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:49:24pm

re: #189 Snarknado!

So sorry to hear about the kitteh.

I had one who went slowly, though.

That’s how our last dog went. 1 1/2 years on seizure meds. We knew it was a matter of time and worked to keep her happy and reduce any discomfort. So, we were vigilent and looking for the signs that it was time. She eventually told us in her own way.

So sorry to hear of your loss.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:50:53pm

re: #193 Great White Snark

Oh Dude so sorry…

Dudette.

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A Cranky One  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:51:36pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

This is the encryption algorithm I’m using with private comments, in case anyone was wondering…

schneier.com

Charles introduces a new feature.

Members of the community play with and test the new functionality. Some, by force of habit, look for ways to break it (coding experience does that to you).

Now Charles tells us about the encryption he used.

Is this a challenge?

////////

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:51:43pm

Dim Jim & Dana “Muhgunz!!” Loesch are totally cheering on the police action in St. Louis.

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EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:52:19pm

re: #37 Jenner7

So this may be a bit of stochastic thuggery triggered by the toxic fumes of the GOP primary race thus far.

Isn’t that just ducky.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:56:13pm
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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:56:29pm

re: #198 b_sharp

Dudette.

Those kids use it either way right? But thanks. ;-)

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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:56:51pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Any idea what the original story was?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:57:08pm

re: #199 A Cranky One

Charles introduces a new feature.

Members of the community play with and test the new functionality. Some, by force of habit, look for ways to break it (coding experience does that to you).

Now Charles tells us about the encryption he used.

Is this a challenge?

////////

That’s the thing about Blowfish encryption — knowing it’s the type of encryption I’m using does absolutely nothing to help anyone crack it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:57:32pm

re: #196 b_sharp

Touche’-but I didn’t think it would reach such vitriol like the way Sully would tear into HRC. Seems Milo has trumped that. At least Sully was smart enough to know when the winds were changing, I don’t think Milo ever will.

If I had to choose between rescuing Milo and a drug dealer in a car wreck, I’ll rescue the drug dealer-he actually conducts commerce whereas Milo just clicks keys.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:57:58pm

re: #204 Belafon

Any idea what the original story was?

I wonder too because Jim and Dana both have a serious credibility problem.

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stpaulbear  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:58:10pm

re: #184 A Cranky One

Creeps me out when I look at a product online and then get presented for ads for those products even when using different computers at different places. Privacy has been an illusion for a while, most folks just don’t realize it. Worse, they advertise their lives to the world.

Now I’m getting creeped out. I had just finished a frappuccino when I opened a website and the main ad on the page was for…a frappuccino.

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Snarknado!  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:58:30pm

re: #197 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

That’s how our last dog went. 1 1/2 years on seizure meds. We knew it was a matter of time and worked to keep her happy and reduce any discomfort. So, we were vigilent and looking for the signs that it was time. She eventually told us in her own way.

So sorry to hear of your loss.

That was about 15 years ago. Current
FO seems to be going strong at 13. I don’t think I’ll nurse her along for nearly as long as I did the other one, if it comes to that.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 5:59:08pm

re: #206 Eric The Fruit Bat

Touche’-but I didn’t think it would reach such vitriol like the way Sully would tear into HRC. Seems Milo has trumped that. At least Sully was smart enough to know when the winds were changing, I don’t think Milo ever will.

If I had to choose between rescuing Milo and a drug dealer in a car wreck, I’ll rescue the drug dealer-he actually conducts commerce whereas Milo just clicks keys.

I read Sully as Scully and start thinking X-files.

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear aliens are involved.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:00:07pm

re: #209 Snarknado!

That was about 15 years ago. Current
FO seems to be going strong at 13. I don’t think I’ll nurse her along for nearly as long as I did the other one, if it comes to that.

glad to hear your 13 is going strong.

It’s a tough decision when it has to be made. We find the dogs tell us a lot.

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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:00:17pm

re: #184 A Cranky One

Creeps me out when I look at a product online and then get presented for ads for those products even when using different computers at different places. Privacy has been an illusion for a while, most folks just don’t realize it. Worse, they advertise their lives to the world.

I had an ad the other day at work name my workplace, using the acronym, in the ad. I don’t write the name of the company when I’m online, so the ad was using some involved location detection.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:00:50pm

re: #111 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Ouch. {{{hugs}}}

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Snarknado!  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:01:36pm

re: #211 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

glad to hear your 13 is going strong.

It’s a tough decision when it has to be made. We find the dogs tell us a lot.

Whereas cats are cryptic by nature.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:03:47pm

Trump thinks a 10 ft fence at the border will keep people out?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:04:39pm

Freakn’ Comcast. Even their TV Guide website doesn’t work. Failed 5 different ways in the last 7 tries.

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Snarknado!  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:05:46pm

re: #215 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump thinks a 10 ft fence at the border will keep people out?

What is he going to do about the tunnels? Attack ferrets?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:05:52pm

re: #216 Decatur Deb

That is one of the many reasons why I do not have cable.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:06:37pm

re: #215 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

He has not read the story of the Berlin Wall. Pity.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:06:38pm

re: #217 Snarknado!

What is he going to do about the tunnels? Attack ferrets?

I know some dogs that would have no trouble with a 10 ft fence.

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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:06:41pm

re: #217 Snarknado!

What is he going to do about the tunnels? Attack ferrets?

Worm drones.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:07:01pm

re: #219 PhillyPretzel

He has not read the story of the Berlin Wall. Pity.

He probably got the East Germany version of the story.

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piratedan  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:07:49pm

re: #217 Snarknado!

he’ll use them to funnel fundie missionaries to convert the RC heathen

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bratwurst  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:09:15pm

re: #216 Decatur Deb

Freakn’ Comcast. Even their TV Guide website doesn’t work. Failed 5 different ways in the last 7 tries.

They have the lowest customer satisfaction in the lowest customer satisfaction INDUSTRY in America…and yet Senator Al Franken was the one and only public figure willing to stand up against the idea of giving them a broadband monopoly. I am still shaking my head.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:09:55pm

re: #210 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“Sully” was in this case referring to Andrew Sullivan., another Gay Catholic Tory, who actually had much more influence than Milo could EVER dream of-why else who Milo be stuck writing for that den of vipers called Breitbart? He’s just a professional troll who has had more success than the Rage Furby (and that has to piss the Rage Furby off to no end…)

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EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:10:03pm

re: #206 Eric The Fruit Bat

Touche’-but I didn’t think it would reach such vitriol like the way Sully would tear into HRC. Seems Milo has trumped that. At least Sully was smart enough to know when the winds were changing, I don’t think Milo ever will.

If I had to choose between rescuing Milo and a drug dealer in a car wreck, I’ll rescue the drug dealer-he actually conducts commerce whereas Milo just clicks keys.

Milo is simply a data point that the scum of the earth come in all varieties, including gay. That said, gay Quislings like Yiannopuolos do personally irritate me more than most, since they should damn well know better than to participate in the RWNJ political machine.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:10:23pm

re: #224 bratwurst

They have the lowest customer satisfaction in the lowest customer satisfaction INDUSTRY in America…and yet Senator Al Franken was the one and only public figure willing to stand up against the idea of giving them a broadband monopoly. I am still shaking my head.

Franken has been such a pleasant surprise as a Senator. I like my Senators but I wouldn’t be upset if we could somehow trade senators like in sports and get Franken.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:11:42pm

re: #218 PhillyPretzel

That is one of the many reasons why I do not have cable.

We’re about to ditch them after several decades. (Just went to the email. It challenged me for a sign-in, and then passed me in before I could respond.)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:12:10pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:12:28pm

The air is the haziest it’s been at my twenty all summer. Smoke from wildfires in the PNW. Wild. There’s a substantial mountain range just 20 miles away, very easy to see from my house on a clear day. Not so today.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:12:39pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:14:52pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:15:16pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:15:22pm

What amuses me is this notion that Trump is “genuine”. He’s nothing but a fraud. To be fair so are his fellow candidates but he’s especially one.

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:15:49pm

re: #232 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:16:13pm

re: #232 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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PPP is said to be quite conservative in their lean right? Still though, that’s scary considering Obama won there in 2008.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:16:34pm

re: #232 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

G-d help us if that Trump person ever gets into the White House.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:16:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:16:48pm

re: #204 Belafon

Any idea what the original story was?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:16:54pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

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Deez Nuts does have a good education policy. I do think he comes off a little hairy on the details.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:17:49pm

Is it ever going to stop in St. Louis?

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:17:51pm

Cruz trying to get some Trump rub:

Ted Cruz invited Donald Trump on a roadtrip to the U.S.-Mexico border

Desperately trying to be relevant.

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:18:06pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Deez Nuts does have a good education policy. I do think he comes off a little hairy on the details.

Too many details left dangling.

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Khal Wimpo  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:18:32pm

re: #214 Snarknado!

Whereas cats are cryptic by nature.

Oh, Long Johnson. Oh, Don Piano.

Video

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:18:44pm

re: #243 Great White Snark

Too many details left dangling.

Ha better played than I.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:19:20pm

Police shoot, kill armed suspect in N. STL

NORTH ST. LOUIS - Police are investigating after a suspect was killed in an officer-involved shooting in north St. Louis Wednesday morning.

According to St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department Chief Sam Dotson, the shooting occurred while members of the Tactical Unit and Special Operations were executing a search warrant on the 1200 block of Walton around 11:30 a.m. Wednesday.

Police are investigating after a suspect was killed

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:20:00pm
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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:20:07pm

DougJ posted an interesting thought over at Balloon Juice: Is the ultimate white male privilege being a bad singer (not necessarily the lyrics, just the voice of the singer) and yet still getting on the radio? He removes Bob Dylan and Neil Young, and starts by listing Wilco and Death Cab for Cuties and then mentions Red Hot Chili Peppers.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:20:20pm
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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:20:43pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

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People are saying

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aagcobb  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:21:05pm

re: #242 freetoken

Cruz trying to get some Trump rub:

Ted Cruz invited Donald Trump on a roadtrip to the U.S.-Mexico border

Desperately trying to be relevant.

Which is funny, since Trump isn’t sure if Cruz should be deported or not (only half kidding, Trump has said he has doubts about whether Cruz is a natural born citizen).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:21:16pm

re: #247 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Yeah I mean Hillary’s got her problems which are legitimate but to say Fiorina is thriving is heh a joke. I’d be shocked if Fiorina finishes in the top 3 in any GOP primary or caucus.

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:21:18pm

Fact check: Trump misstates support from Rousey, Marines

[…]

But the candidate must have missed a recent CNN interview with Rousey, in which she summarily dismissed Trump’s campaign for president.

“I mean, I wouldn’t vote for him,” she said. “I just really wouldn’t trust the guy with running my country, that’s all. … I’m not really going to get into specifics of it, but, I mean, I don’t want a reality TV star to be running my country.”

[…]

Contrast that to Jesse Ventura.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:21:28pm

re: #241 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Is it ever going to stop in St. Louis?

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Not until they dismantle the authoritative yahoos who are the police.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:21:44pm

re: #250 #FergusonFireside

People are saying

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Well Dana Loesch and Jim Hoft were on scene to say they deserved it. A fucking 12 year old.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:22:05pm
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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:22:06pm

re: #246 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Police shoot, kill armed suspect in N. STL

I do not believe a single word that Dotson says.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:22:06pm

re: #253 freetoken

Fact check: Trump misstates support from Rousey, Marines

Contrast that to Jesse Ventura.

Good for her.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:22:38pm

re: #248 Belafon

Tom Waits /////

*ducks*

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TedStriker  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:23:07pm

re: #221 Belafon

Worm drones.

Graboids…

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:23:24pm

I see that Jeb! is trying the Trump-Is-Not-A-True-Conservative approach.

I doubt that will work.

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ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:23:55pm

re: #215 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump thinks a 10 ft fence at the border will keep people out?

Tonight in his rambling talk in New Hampshire he asked people if they were (paraphrasing) “familiar with precast concrete. It can be 30, 40, 50 foot long, spans bridges. You stand ‘em up and put them side by side and your make a real nice wall. It’ll be nice. Beautiful. You get to the top somehow, you can’t get down. Tunnels? You use underground radar detecting equipment and stop that.”

See. It’s all real easy. It’s Trump.

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A Cranky One  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:24:19pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

That’s the thing about Blowfish encryption — knowing it’s the type of encryption I’m using does absolutely nothing to help anyone crack it.

Ha. I’ll just borrow some time on a 33.86 petaflops machine and I’ll soon know what’s in those messages people don’t want me to see! ;)

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:24:44pm

re: #256 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Creepy.

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:24:54pm

The Chicago Tribune published the names, addresses, ages and charges faced of every person that was cited by police at the concert last Friday at Ravinia Festival. Do they do that when a big country music act comes to town and a bunch of people get arrested for disorderly conduct or assault because they’ve been drinking too much?

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:25:13pm

Salad tonight: iceberg, because fuck it I like it stand down purists, almonds, tomatoes, onion, gorganzola & cukes.

What in college we called an MO.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:26:03pm

Also on Raw Story:

Consulting firm that vetted Edward Snowden will pay US $30 million in settlement

rawstory.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:26:23pm

re: #262 ObserverArt

Tonight in his rambling talk in New Hampshire he asked people if they were (paraphrasing) “familiar with precast concrete. It can be 30, 40, 50 foot long, spans bridges. You stand ‘em up and put them side by side and your make a real nice wall. It’ll be nice. Beautiful. You get to the top somehow, you can’t get down. Tunnels? You use underground radar detecting equipment and stop that.”

See. It’s all real easy. It’s Trump.

You can wall ‘em out but they’ll find a way in. Just ask El Chapo.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:26:51pm

re: #259 Nyet

Tom Waits /////

*ducks*

Boo.

Tom has a great voice.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:27:46pm

re: #266 #FergusonFireside

Salad tonight: iceberg, because fuck it I like it stand down purists, almonds, tomatoes, onion, gorganzola & cukes.

What in college we called an MO.

Boo on the onions.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:28:11pm

re: #269 b_sharp

Boo.

Tom has a great voice.

Yeah, I agree.

“it was soaked in a vat of bourbon, left hanging in the smokehouse for a few months, and then taken outside and run over with a car.”

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:28:13pm

re: #244 Khal Wimpo

Oh, Long Johnson. Oh, Don Piano.

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I haven’t seen that clip in years.

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stpaulbear  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:28:42pm

re: #259 Nyet

Tom Waits /////

*ducks*

Sorry that I only have one upding for that.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:28:48pm

re: #269 b_sharp

Boo.

Tom has a great voice.

re: #270 b_sharp

Boo on the onions.

You’re in a boo-mood today.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:29:11pm

Now, they (fox drones) are harping on immigration.

Anchor Babies —repeal the 14th amendment!!!

secure the border, fix the immigration system.

Nice Carly, who cleans your house?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:30:06pm

Gawd, Carly could be reciting GOP rhetoric from the last 3 elections. She doesn’t even sound like she is trying.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:30:07pm

I want my pizza without anchor babies!

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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:31:19pm

re: #275 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Nice Carly, who cleans your house?

“Good Mexicans.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:31:20pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:31:29pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:33:06pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:33:06pm

re: #276 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Gawd, Carly could be reciting GOP rhetoric from the last 3 elections. She doesn’t even sound like she is trying.

Is there any option for a GOP candidate other than a) regurgitating the usual talking points like Bill the Cat generating yet another hairball, or b) trying and failing to imitate Trumpzilla?

It’s not like the GOP has any ideas to bring to the table.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:33:24pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

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Heh I think Oliver had the first three listed earlier. As I said then, I can’t wait to see what’s next.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:34:38pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:36:38pm

Mike Huckabee Embarasses Himself In Jerusalem

I don’t know what’s with Huck lately. Lord knows he’s taken enough trips to Israel to navigate the issues American politicians get asked there. There’s really no percentage in being to the right of Bibi. But the dude seems off-balance.

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:36:49pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:36:50pm

Scenes out of St. Louis are fucked.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:36:56pm

Someone got Shaun King’s birth certificate!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:37:35pm

re: #284 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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How does she have money to make Sean sandwiches? He said that his salary wasn’t enough to support a family.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:37:53pm

re: #285 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Mike Huckabee Embarasses Himself In Jerusalem

He always embarrasses himself.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:38:18pm

re: #179 #FergusonFireside

Bring a live Detroit Tigers mascot animal into an old, abandoned auto plant for a photo shoot. What could possibly go wrong?

hahaha

I have an urban guerilla-photographer friend who tells me that she was in that same space the night before. Detroit has a thriving post-civilization exploration and art scene going on seriously. Here’s some of her stuff.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:40:28pm

re: #285 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Mike Huckabee Embarasses Himself In Jerusalem

They are all fighting for the 26% RWNJ populace.

Trump though, might get 38% because add the stupids who think they will be rich.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:44:59pm

re: #262 ObserverArt

Tonight in his rambling talk in New Hampshire he asked people if they were (paraphrasing) “familiar with precast concrete. It can be 30, 40, 50 foot long, spans bridges. You stand ‘em up and put them side by side and your make a real nice wall. It’ll be nice. Beautiful. You get to the top somehow, you can’t get down. Tunnels? You use underground radar detecting equipment and stop that.”

See. It’s all real easy. It’s Trump.

aaaaaand how about a cost estimate?

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:46:51pm

re: #291 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I have an urban guerilla-photographer friend who tells me that she was in that same space the night before. Detroit has a thriving post-civilization exploration and art scene going on seriously. Here’s some of her stuff.

Very cool photos.

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:47:14pm

re: #291 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I have an urban guerilla-photographer friend who tells me that she was in that same space the night before. Detroit has a thriving post-civilization exploration and art scene going on seriously. Here’s some of her stuff.

I met a friend of a friend from Detroit couple of years ago, and my friend told him that my wife and I did a lot of exploring, and he told me he’d long heard of a place on Long Island - that it was legendary in Detroit. I had been there a few times, so I took him. This place:

Kings Park Psychiatric Center: A documentary

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:48:17pm

re: #293 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

aaaaaand how about a cost estimate?

Change orders.

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b_sharp  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:49:23pm

re: #274 Nyet

You’re in a boo-mood today.

Boo Yah!

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:50:03pm

My metaphorical muse is urging me to add another verse or two to my “Locks On Doors” poem.

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:50:55pm

Encrypted Locks on Digital Doors - yeah, time for a reboot.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:51:44pm
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Teukka  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:52:08pm

With the way the current GOP presidential candidate race is going, this song comes to mind:
“Weird Al” Yankovic - Dare To Be Stupid

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Nyet  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:55:23pm

re: #301 HappyWarrior

I believe Roy was a Huckabee supporter in 2008.

Figures. He seems to like fascist dictator wannabes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:56:18pm

re: #303 Nyet

Figures. He seems to like fascist dictator wannabes.

Yeah. I knew there was an African-American boxer who supported Huck in 2008.

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calochortus  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:58:00pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

For a few decades, the Army used SSAN as their serial number. They’ve stopped. As you said some colleges also used them as student ID. The SSAN is explicitly not to be used as ID for other purposes.

Hmmm, I just realized my SS# is enshrined on the top of each and every page of my Master’s thesis. Fortunately, no one will ever read the stupid thing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:58:10pm

re: #303 Nyet

Figures. He seems to like fascist dictator wannabes.

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A Cranky One  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:58:55pm

re: #297 b_sharp

Boo Yah!

Boo the dog

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:59:16pm

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

Wow. Much presidential. Very politics. Many leadership.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 6:59:47pm

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

Now you need not wonder why we are attracted to a strong leader

All Hail The Great Mover Of Air

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Dave In Austin  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:00:37pm

Wart Toucher!!!

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EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:01:21pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

Wow. Much presidential. Very politics. Many leadership.

Boo the dog from #307 would be a better POTUS than Trump (or any GOPer, actually).

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:02:58pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

It’s worse where I’m at.

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Kragar  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:04:02pm

Have re: #302 Teukka

I consider this the new official anthem for the GOP

Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor

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Dave In Austin  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:04:17pm
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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:04:43pm

About those GOP guys…
Video

Holy crap those lyrics works for this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:08:37pm

OH HAI SEÑOR TRUMP!

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danarchy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:09:33pm

re: #248 Belafon

DougJ posted an interesting thought over at Balloon Juice: Is the ultimate white male privilege being a bad singer (not necessarily the lyrics, just the voice of the singer) and yet still getting on the radio? He removes Bob Dylan and Neil Young, and starts by listing Wilco and Death Cab for Cuties and then mentions Red Hot Chili Peppers.

I don’t think that one is limited to race…how do you explain folks like Lil Wayne and Meek Mill. I mean when they aren’t using auto-tune.

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:09:57pm

re: #302 Teukka

Tweeted.

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calochortus  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:10:20pm

re: #284 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

[Embedded content]

If they say so. I don’t make my husband’s lunch unless he is incapacitated or something, and neither one of us is religious. We’ve been happily married for 38 years. Of course, it’s not a conservative marriage as specified in the article, so maybe that’s why it worked out so well.

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:11:41pm

Al Yankovic is a national treasure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:11:47pm

Oh.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:11:47pm

Duggar

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A Cranky One  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:13:02pm

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI SEÑOR TRUMP!

[Embedded content]

BUILD HTE WALL UNDERWATER TO! MAKE IT YOUGE!!!!

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Timothy Watson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:14:06pm

re: #322 Dave In Austin

Duggar

[Embedded content]

The Internet may explode from the amount of schadenfreude tonight.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:15:15pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:15:26pm

Deez Nuts

if things are so crazy now, what the HELL is it gonna be like 14 months from now?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:15:44pm
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It's on his hat!  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:16:03pm

re: #248 Belafon

DougJ posted an interesting thought over at Balloon Juice: Is the ultimate white male privilege being a bad singer (not necessarily the lyrics, just the voice of the singer) and yet still getting on the radio? He removes Bob Dylan and Neil Young, and starts by listing Wilco and Death Cab for Cuties and then mentions Red Hot Chili Peppers.

I’m trying to wrap my mind around calling Ben Gibbard a bad singer. I mean, he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but he’s not bad.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:16:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:17:19pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

She’s right. It’s a whine movement.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:17:32pm

What’s the Shaun King “bombshell”?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:18:16pm

re: #329 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Fits the hateful dick motif that Trump goes for.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:19:44pm

re: #293 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

aaaaaand how about a cost estimate?

Doesn’t matter, we can just declare BK and all will be fine.

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It's on his hat!  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:19:56pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

I could get behind a #FOUNDERSMOVEMENT.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:21:11pm

What live stream out of STL is up? Anyone?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:22:14pm

Shameless plug in for my favorite baseball team but Henry Urrieta, a Cuban defector got his first home run and it was a walk off. Seems like a genuinely humble guy.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:23:29pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:24:10pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:24:41pm
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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:24:45pm

re: #328 Deez Nuts for President

I’m trying to wrap my mind around calling Ben Gibbard a bad singer. I mean, he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but he’s not bad.

I was going to say that - his vocals work pretty perfectly with what DCfC does.

Trivia: Where does the name ‘Death Cab For Cutie’ originate?

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:26:13pm

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

What live stream out of STL is up? Anyone?

Trying to find out.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:27:12pm

re: #338 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

[Embedded content]

Very good question.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:27:48pm
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Belafon  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:28:14pm

re: #338 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Because the goal is to keep blacks in.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:28:41pm

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

What live stream out of STL is up? Anyone?

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It's on his hat!  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:29:49pm

re: #340 makeitstop

I was going to say that - his vocals work pretty perfectly with what DCfC does.

Trivia: Where does the name ‘Death Cab For Cutie’ originate?

From a Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band song.

(Yes, I actually knew that, but I had to look up the spelling…)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:29:54pm
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bratwurst  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:30:59pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

The profile picture is actually actress Hayley Atwell.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:31:28pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:31:39pm
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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:31:51pm

re: #346 Deez Nuts for President

From a Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band song.

(Yes, I actually knew that, but I had to look up the spelling…)

Featured in The Beatles’ Magical Mystery Tour, too.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:32:57pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:38:11pm

National Review, Breitbart, Townhall, you name them, they’re very upset with the lamestream media (actual news organizations with journalistic ethics) for not covering OBVIOUS INFANTICIDE at Planned Parenthood after the latest turd being dropped by the “Center For Medical Progress”. They’re all calling for criminal investigations.

Hey all you unethical tard balls, the videos show nothing illegal.

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:39:06pm

This New Shotgun Shell is for Shooting Down Drones

(Also works on ducks, geese and turkey)

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:39:20pm

re: #352 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

And I will bet $.01 that that Trump person thinks solar energy is absolutely horrible. /half

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:39:27pm

re: #353 teleskiguy

I thought the latest, latest, video from CFMP wasn’t even footage from PP.

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calochortus  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:40:20pm

re: #356 freetoken

I thought the latest, latest, video from CFMP wasn’t even footage from PP.

Details, details…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:40:37pm

re: #345 #FergusonFireside

Thank you!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:41:38pm

re: #354 makeitstop

This New Shotgun Shell is for Shooting Down Drones

(Also works on ducks, geese and turkey)

Steel shot will raise hell with a shotgun barrel.

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:42:41pm

re: #356 freetoken

I’m not privy to the details. Thing is Lila Rose ends up in my Twitter timeline about twice a day now, she’s sponsoring tweets. And I saw one this afternoon that said OBVIOUS INFANTICIDE, BABBY PARTS, BABBY BRAINS. I know she’s lying, but I really don’t feel like watching videos from an obviously fraudulent organization like the “Center For Medical Progress”.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:43:22pm

re: #354 makeitstop

This New Shotgun Shell is for Shooting Down Drones

(Also works on ducks, geese and turkey)

What’s the difference between this and birdshot?

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:45:49pm
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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:47:36pm

re: #354 makeitstop

This New Shotgun Shell is for Shooting Down Drones

(Also works on ducks, geese and turkey)

(psst)

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:47:52pm

re: #361 Timothy Watson

What’s the difference between this and birdshot?

I have no idea. Non-owner here. :)

I just thought the marketing was a little wacky - ‘Prepare for the Drone Apocalypse?’ Really?

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William Lewis  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:48:46pm

re: #359 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Steel shot will raise hell with a shotgun barrel.

Old barrels yes, ones made since 1970 ~ 1980 (depending on manufacturer) no. It’s also choke dependent: steel makes a choke act like two steps tighter and in some older barrels, steel is ok so long as it’s not choked tighter than modified. My Ithaca M37 in 16 gauge is in this category. OTOH, my Steven 311 SxS is lead or non-steel/non-toxic (aka “The Expensive Bismuth Shit”) only. I would like to get some bismuth shot this fall to take that Stevens out duck hunting but I may not be able to afford it. A plug for the Ithaca is much cheaper :D

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Timothy Watson  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:49:05pm

re: #362 #FergusonFireside

[Embedded content]

I need to type up what appears in The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763-1789 about the thuggery of our Founding Fathers and their destruction of private property and the attempted lynching of government officials years before the revolution started.

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makeitstop  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:50:02pm

re: #363 Great White Snark

(psst)

You only beat me by a day and 6 hours!

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:51:59pm

re: #366 Timothy Watson

There seems, to me anyway, a universal need to mythologize the past.

This is true of the American Revolution, especially amongst certain segments of the American populace who really want to think of America as God’s chosen nation.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:52:22pm

re: #365 William Lewis

Thanks for the update. None of my shotguns was made after 1970. The 10Ga Barker is Prohibition era.

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Kragar  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:52:59pm

re: #354 makeitstop

AKA bullshit ammo that morons will pay extra to buy

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freetoken  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:53:42pm

Magickal thinking is pervasive. It is very difficult for us humans to overcome that. The modern civilization and the connection to rationalism and objectivity came by way of a rough road through religion.

Many people want to take a U-turn.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 7:54:58pm

re: #366 Timothy Watson

I need to type up what appears in The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763-1789 about the thuggery of our Founding Fathers and their destruction of private property and the attempted lynching of government officials years before the revolution started.

Yes, please do. It’s obviously a very old system of oppression.

:(

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:00:00pm

FYI, I am verrry full from my salad. Need to digest before becoming one with the bed.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:01:16pm
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Reality Based Steve  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:01:22pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

For a few decades, the Army used SSAN as their serial number. They’ve stopped. As you said some colleges also used them as student ID. The SSAN is explicitly not to be used as ID for other purposes.

I seem to remember when I first joined the Army, pretty much any piece of paperwork, including the duty roster for the mess hall was posted in the common area, with your name, rank and SSN for all to see.

Ah, for those innocent and halcyon days.

RBS

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Great White Snark  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:02:12pm

Lets see out huntin got mah buckshot for buck, got mah birdshot for birds, got mah drone shot for drones got mah vodka shot for … wait a minute!

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Timothy Watson  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:03:51pm

re: #366 Timothy Watson

Ah, here’s a good summary, the book goes into more detail
en.wikipedia.org

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:04:49pm

bbl

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:11:51pm

Interesting day at work today. One of our customers came in and said “I’ve got a scuba tank I was given, could you take a look at it for me?”. Not altogether an uncommon request, so I told him to bring it in.

In comes a battered and scarred up Aluminum tank. Thing has mud on it, and the paint is all beat to hell, but looks generally solid. I start looking for the “born-on” date that’s stamped on it, and it’s 1983. They also have to be pressure tested every 5 years and that’s stamped on it, but there are no other hydro test marks.

Turns out that a farmer friend of his found it out in an old abandon field that he was getting ready to brush hog. It was lying under an old pile of brush, apparently it got deposited there years and years ago during a flood.

Had to tell him that due the the age of the tank, it was made of an alloy that is no longer used, since it tended to form stress cracks in the neck, and then explode while filling (which was often fatal for the operator of the fill station (me)). Said it was probably worth 35 bucks as scrap, or if he knew somebody with a machine shop, to cut the bottom 6-8 inches off, makes a hell of a wind chime.

Since it didn’t cost him anything, he wasn’t unhappy, I have a feeling it may end up on his deck as a chime.

That was pretty much the high point of my day.

RBS

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 19, 2015 • 8:15:28pm

re: #379 Fuzzy Bunny 06

Love it.

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Nyet  Aug 20, 2015 • 1:49:11am

re: #337 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Too bad the first two are bogus.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2015 • 4:09:02am

re: #379 Fuzzy Bunny 06

Painted aluminum tanks carry another hidden risk. For a short while many were painted then dried in high-heat ovens, degrading their initial heat treatment.

The Ft Knox club filled their tanks conventionally, in a water bath, to avoid adiabatic hotspots. The bath was a 55 gallon can set into a reinforced concrete culvert section.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2015 • 4:11:17am

My comment block is invisibly retaining parts of earlier comments, even after shutdown.
Above was cleaned up.


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