Donald Trump’s New Fan: Former KKK Leader David Duke

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The latest well-known personality to reveal that he’s a fan of Donald Trump and his crazed xenophobic message: former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke.

“I praise the fact that he’s come out on the immigration issue. I’m beginning to get the idea that he’s a good salesman. That he’s an entrepreneur and he has a good sense of what people want to hear what they want to buy,” said Duke on his radio program last week after noting that he had previously been critical of Trump’s run.

“And I think he realizes that his path to popularity toward power in the Republican Party is talking about the immigration issue. And he has really said some incredibly great things recently. So whatever his motivation, I don’t give a damn. I really like the fact that he’s speaking out on this greatest immediate threat to the American people.”

Of course, this makes perfect sense; it’s exactly the audience Trump is aiming for. But Duke’s support for Trump isn’t whole-hearted; he thinks The Donald still has too many “deep Jewish connections” to be really trustworthy.

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441 comments
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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:27:28pm

I’m shocked.

Just shocked.

Who could have imagined this????

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:28:44pm

Is it not relevant to bring up Scalise.//

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:29:45pm

The GOP executive committee voted Friday to cancel the traditional presidential preference poll at the caucus after the national party changed its rules to require a state’s delegates to support the candidate that wins.

The move makes Colorado the only state so far to forfeit a role in the early nomination process, according to experts, but other states are still considering what to do.

“It takes Colorado completely off the map” in the nomination process, said Ryan Call, a former state GOP chairman.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:29:52pm

About that flag, Kurt Schilling told me the red stands for Christ’s blood and….

//

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:31:31pm

re: #3 Kragar

Is this a reaction to Trump? Or perhaps another ploy by Paul-bots?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:34:54pm

Curt Schilling has some defenders

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:35:06pm

It reminds me of that Simpson’s gag about Fox News, ‘Not racist, but #1 with racists’, but I think Trump IS a racist, AND #1 with racists.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:35:39pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

It reminds me of that Simpson’s gag about Fox News, ‘Not racist, but #1 with racists’, but I think Trump IS a racist, AND #1 with racists.

Considering that Trump threw his lot in with the Nirther crowd, it’s a virtual lock that he’s a racist.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:37:23pm

re: #8 thedopefishlives

Considering that Trump threw his lot in with the Nirther crowd, it’s a virtual lock that he’s a racist.

Yeah, I only judged him by his words and his deeds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:37:24pm

Breitbart headline with some numbers they pulled out of their ass==>

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:37:24pm

The machinations of the Republicans has become incomprehensible to me.

The entire nomination process is like some giant Rube-Goldberg contraption.

I wonder if the deep pocket sugar-daddies of the GOP are fine-tuning the process to make sure their boy wins?

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:39:19pm

re: #11 freetoken

The machinations of the Republicans has become incomprehensible to me.

The entire nomination process is like some giant Rube-Goldberg contraption.

I wonder if the deep pocket sugar-daddies of the GOP are fine-tuning the process to make sure their boy wins?

Yeah, but…just which one of these losers is “their boy”? I am having a hard time figuring that out these days.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:39:23pm

i want to read trump’s book, The Art Of The Troll, but i cant seem to find a copy…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:39:38pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Breitbart headline with some numbers they pulled out of their ass==>

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Uh huh.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:39:54pm

I hardly ever use LGF with my iPhone, but here I am, waiting on some transmission work on my car, so I’m giving it a whirl. It’s not very easy typing with the tips of your thumbs. Site looks good, though!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:40:01pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:40:07pm

re: #12 WhatEVs

Yeah, but…just which one of these losers is “their boy”? I am having a hard time figuring that out these days.

It’s hard for me to figure out. I think it’s one of Bush, Christie, Rubio, or Walker though.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:41:36pm

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:42:17pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

I hardly ever use LGF with my iPhone, but here I am, waiting on some transmission work on my car, so I’m giving it a whirl. It’s not very easy typing with the tips of your thumbs. Site looks good, though!

Automatic transmission or manual?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:43:00pm

re: #5 freetoken

Is this a reaction to Trump? Or perhaps another ploy by Paul-bots?

I imagine it’s a little bit of both. Ron Paul delegates hijacked a good number of Colorado’s delegates in 2008. Rules for delegate selection were tightened considerably after that. And I also imagine that the Colorado GOP is terrified of who the voters will choose. Last name rhymes with “dump”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:43:25pm

re: #18 Dave In Austin

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So Ben would have been just fine if Schilling had made a broadbrushing point about the entire Jewish community. Yeah didn’t think so sport. It’s not political correctness at all you pathetic little twerp. It’s about ESPN having a problem with Schilling likening literally millions of Muslim men, women, and children to the Nazis. It’s a comment that President fucking Bush would have a problem with it. Is he a “political correct coward” too Ben or do you just save that for groups that don’t kiss your little ass.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:44:00pm

Given how Trump is targeting Jeb!, I gather that Jeb! is the fair haired boy, at least for the eastern old-money types.

I suppose Walker might be more popular with the Kochs and their henchmen, but Walker is, well, really, really boring. He’s crashed faster than Jeb!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:44:11pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

I imagine it’s a little bit of both. Ron Paul delegates hijacked a good number of Colorado’s delegates in 2008. Rules for delegate selection were tightened considerably after that. And I also imagine that the Colorado GOP is terrified of who the voters will chose. Last name rhymes with “dump”.

A caucus definitely does seem like it would be raw pickings for a candidate like Trump or in the past Luap Nor.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:44:14pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Manual. Just routine maintenance. And I’m having them change the oil too. I usually do something like that myself but I’m caving to convenience.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:44:40pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

It reminds me of that Simpson’s gag about Fox News, ‘Not racist, but #1 with racists’, but I think Trump IS a racist, AND #1 with racists.

I confess I don’t take anything Trump says or does as indicative of who he is or what he believes. I think he’s ultimately a con man, and he’s got a really good sense of what these marks want.

That scares me more than him being a racist, because I don’t know what he really wants, and there’s nobody he’s beholden to. At least with everyone else, you can tell who paid them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:45:26pm

re: #22 freetoken

Given how Trump is targeting Jeb!, I gather that Jeb! is the fair haired boy, at least for the eastern old-money types.

I suppose Walker might be more popular with the Kochs and their henchmen, but Walker is, well, really, really boring. He’s crashed faster than Jeb!

Yeah, I think I made a mistake there in acting like the money types are the same. Jeb is definitely the old money types on the East Coast’s guy. Walker definitely is the Kochs puppet. Not sure but I think one or both of those two groups like Rubio and Christie too. Perhaps Christie is more the WSJ type?

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:45:37pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Automatic transmission or manual?

Most iPhones are automatic, I believe.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:46:20pm

OT but fun to watch.

Watch Jon Stewart get body-slammed by John Cena on ‘Monday Night Raw’

Click to Reveal

John ain’t wearing any underwear

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:47:21pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

It’s hard for me to figure out. I think it’s one of Bush, Christie, Rubio, or Walker though.

I don’t think Christie. Walker is likely the most pliable since he can’t think on his own…at all, apparently. I dunno, he may be too stupid for the powers that be. Bush, perhaps, but he has that War! War! War! thing which is going to hurt him in the general in a big way (IMHO). I think it may be Rubio. As odd as it is to say, he has been the most lucid and presidential of the entire bunch.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:48:13pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

I imagine it’s a little bit of both. Ron Paul delegates hijacked a good number of Colorado’s delegates in 2008. Rules for delegate selection were tightened considerably after that. And I also imagine that the Colorado GOP is terrified of who the voters will chose. Last name rhymes with “dump”.

You think this is coming from the rural counties that were looking to make the split from the state because of Citified Satan and legal ganga?

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:48:35pm

So, Trump is overwhelmingly the lead in the latest polls:

realclearpolitics.com

realclearpolitics.com

Trump appears to have a consistently mammoth appeal in the state most synonymous with the Rebellion to keep slavery.

I wonder why that is?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:49:20pm

I hope everyone has read that New Yorker piece Thanos shared. We might witness the GOP become the white nationalist party before our very eyes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:49:21pm

re: #29 WhatEVs

I don’t think Christie. Walker is likely the most pliable since he can’t think on his own…at all, apparently. I dunno, he may be too stupid for the powers that be. Bush, perhaps, but he has that War! War! War! thing which is going to hurt him in the general in a big way (IMHO). I think it may be Rubio. As odd as it is to say, he has been the most lucid and presidential of the entire bunch.

Perhaps it was Christie at one time but the Obama hug and Bridgegate lost him some favor. It’s really tough seeing who is beholden to. Cruz, Santorum, and Huckabee are easy ones- Christian right all the way. Paul’s part of the fake libertarian movement. And the others. Man they’re so many of them that I forget all of them.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:50:07pm

re: #30 Dave In Austin

You think this is coming from the rural counties that were looking to make the split from the state because of Citified Satan and legal ganga?

Oh yeah. And all the places in the mountains that aren’t near a ski area.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:50:19pm

re: #31 freetoken

So, Trump is overwhelmingly the lead in the latest polls:

realclearpolitics.com

realclearpolitics.com

Trump appears to have a consistently mammoth appeal in the state most synonymous with the Rebellion to keep slavery.

I wonder why that is?

Well they’ve come a long way on Yankees in the past 100 years. // But yeah things that make you go hmm. What has to worry the GOP establishment is that he’s a popular second choice too. This guy really is the dickhead that so many GOP voters have wanted for so long.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:50:26pm

I agree…….

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:50:45pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

bad URL

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:51:23pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

I confess I don’t take anything Trump says or does as indicative of who he is or what he believes. I think he’s ultimately a con man, and he’s got a really good sense of what these marks want.

That scares me more than him being a racist, because I don’t know what he really wants, and there’s nobody he’s beholden to. At least with everyone else, you can tell who paid them.

I don’t know whether he believes in anything other than his own superiority, but acting like a racist makes you one, I think, because if you believed all people are worthy of respect until they prove themselves unworthy, you would act that way.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:51:46pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

I hardly ever use LGF with my iPhone, but here I am, waiting on some transmission work on my car, so I’m giving it a whirl. It’s not very easy typing with the tips of your thumbs. Site looks good, though!

I am almost always on my iPhone. Use your index finger (one finger). You will find it really easy to type in short order. Thumbs are a real bitch to type with, IMHO. But I can slam out some text very quickly using one finger.

Oh, and watch for autocorrect. It can and will make you (or, rather me) look foolish often.

One last thing…I do this all the time but you may not…U, I and O are too damned close together and I am always touching the wrong one. That’s where autocorrect and looking foolish really come into play. :-D

Good luck!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:52:11pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

Oh yeah. And all the places in the mountains that aren’t near a ski area.

I apologize if I’ve asked you this before but I brought up Leadville/Steamboat Springs with you since my brother used to live there. I am curious but what are the politics like there out of curiously? I assume more liberal since I think the ski areas are pretty liberal. It always looked beautiful there. The elevation would be quite a test adjusting to since that’s some of the highest land in the continental US.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:53:17pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

I don’t know whether he believes in anything other than his own superiority, but acting like a racist makes you one, I think, because if you believed all people are worthy of respect until they prove themselves unworthy, you would act that way.

Oh, I agree. And winning the Presidency by appealing to such base motivations would give him a frightening mandate.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:53:22pm

re: #37 freetoken

Fixed. Stupid tiny little touch screen!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:54:07pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

I don’t know whether he believes in anything other than his own superiority, but acting like a racist makes you one, I think, because if you believed all people are worthy of respect until they prove themselves unworthy, you would act that way.

Which is ultimately why the politician who panders to racism i.e. George Wallace and the others form that era are much more worthy of my hatred than the outright racists. You’re right. If you really believed all people were worthy of respect, you wouldn’t act that way. Trump clearly even if he may not believe Hispanics are racially inferior to whites sees scapegoating them as a means of getting power. Well fuck that guy and noise.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:54:43pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, I agree. And winning the Presidency by appealing to such base motivations would give him a frightening mandate.

I can’t imagine the kinds of political appointees they’d demand. Shiver.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:54:49pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Hey baby. You having trouble with your transmission?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:57:56pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

We already have. In 2008.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:58:13pm

re: #29 WhatEVs

I don’t think Christie. Walker is likely the most pliable since he can’t think on his own…at all, apparently. I dunno, he may be too stupid for the powers that be. Bush, perhaps, but he has that War! War! War! thing which is going to hurt him in the general in a big way (IMHO). I think it may be Rubio. As odd as it is to say, he has been the most lucid and presidential of the entire bunch.

curiously, rubio has been doing better than trump or jeb in a number of state poll matchups with hillary and bernie

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:58:52pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Steamboat Springs proper is fairly liberal, though there is a nice conservative underbelly in town. Right outside city limits is pretty deep red. Leadville tends more liberal as there’s
a sizable Hispanic population there and like the rest of the country’s Latinos vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:00:12pm

I think I read that even “devout Catholic” Santorum started his political career out as pro-choice. These guys all pander to some degree. My favorite was seeing old ads from Romney’s run against Kennedy when Mitt who now loves Reagan distancing himself from the social conservatism of those two. I mean granted that was part of knowing your audience and that being anti-gay and anti-choice wasn’t going to get you far in Massachusetts but Rick was actually pro-choice in what is still quite socially conservative Western Pennsylvania. I mean a lot of Dems there are anti-choice. Remember Jack Murtha? He was anti-choice and quite conservative too.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:01:54pm

Just WTF???

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:02:42pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

Steamboat Springs proper is fairly liberal, though there is a nice conservative underbelly in town. Right outside city limits is pretty deep red. Leadville tends more liberal as there’s
a sizable Hispanic population there and like the rest of the country’s Latinos vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

Gotcha. My SiL is Hispanic and yeah her family since they naturalized I am almost positive are strong Democratic voters. I know they ain’t conservatives. Her one sister has posted a lot of stuff on the Dream Act since her husband is someone who along with his brothers could benefit from it. And I will add that the stuff they say about Latinos being family orientated true. She’s not my true SiL but she treats me and my other brother like brothers as does their other sister. Their friends too who are all mostly from immgrant families are like that too.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:02:45pm

re: #47 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

curiously, rubio has been doing better than trump or jeb in a number of state poll matchups with hillary and bernie

Frankly, they all scare me, because they’re all looney. Some just hide it better.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:03:02pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

Just WTF???

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It’s 20 fucking 15, goddamn it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:03:36pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

Just WTF???

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I went to bed in 2015 and woke up in 1915.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:04:40pm

re: #47 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

curiously, rubio has been doing better than trump or jeb in a number of state poll matchups with hillary and bernie

Rubio is a closet extremist. He gets away with passing himself as a moderate since he’s not a total dingus on immigration but he’s also anti-gay and by his own admission opposed to all forms of abortion. He’s definitely someone to see as a legit concern. I think he may get veeped again if Jeb isn’t the nominee. The honchos are definitely going to see their Hispanic problem and like with Palin and women see Marco as their card to fix it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:05:08pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

I went to bed in 2015 and woke up in 1915.

Please tell me that you warned those people not to go on the Lusitania at least.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:06:05pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:06:14pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

Just WTF???

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FYI Southfield has a Black mayor and a Black congressional rep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:07:06pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

I hope everyone has read that New Yorker piece Thanos shared. We might witness the GOP become the white nationalist party before our very eyes.

This quote struck me:

He said, “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist,” but he did believe that Trump reflected “an unconscious vision that white people have—that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country.

So, the fear that they might become a hated minority leads them to support the man most likely to make everyone else hate them even more.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:09:03pm

re: #39 WhatEVs

I am almost always on my iPhone. Use your index finger (one finger). You will find it really easy to type in short order. Thumbs are a real bitch to type with, IMHO. But I can slam out some text very quickly using one finger.

Oh, and watch for autocorrect. It can and will make you (or, rather me) look foolish often.

One last thing…I do this all the time but you may not…U, I and O are too damned close together and I am always touching the wrong one. That’s where autocorrect and looking foolish really come into play. :-D

Good luck!

For the first couple of years, reading LGF with an iPhone was frustrating because of the many flash videos that were being posted. (iPhones don’t do flash)

The only time I don’t read LGF with my iPhone is when I’m at work, cause the desktop is already fired up and in front of me.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:09:43pm

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:09:46pm

re: #52 WhatEVs

re: #55 HappyWarrior

rubio has an R after his name - that’s enough to disqualify him from ‘moderateness’ in my book

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:10:03pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:10:16pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

This quote struck me:

So, the fear that they might become a hated minority leads them to support the man most likely to make everyone else hate them even more.

Well Dave. There are some white people like my parents whose grandchildren are treated with hostility by people like you and your asshole friends like Mr. Trump simply because her mother is Peruvian. The diversity is a wonderful thing. In fact, I think my niece is going to have a pretty unique experience for our side of the family since we haven’t had a first born in America child in this family for a few generations. My mom’s folks were the children of immigrants but their parents were all much older when they were born.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:10:58pm

re: #62 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

rubio has an R after his name - that’s enough to disqualify him from ‘moderateness’ in my book

Oh believe me, I know and I think most of the other lizards do but he’s going to be presented that way.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:11:49pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

Just WTF???

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Yikes! When I first saw that a couple of days ago I thought it was from about 1968, but it’s apparently CURRENT!

I see they are backing Lantz, Fitzgerald, Siver, Loussia, and Fracassi. Hmmm. I wonder if they realize that previous generations were just as concerned with keeping the Italians, Irish, and Germans out?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:12:51pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Oh believe me, I know and I think most of the other lizards do but he’s going to be presented that way.

i think he has veepness but i feel he is too choir boy like for the top spot

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:13:11pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! When I first saw that a couple of days ago I thought it was from about 1968, but it’s apparently CURRENT!

I see they are backing Lantz, Fitzgerald, Siver, Loussia, and Fracassi. Hmmm. I wonder if they realize that previous generations were just as concerned with keeping the Italians, Irish, and Germans out?

“We’ll take the N*****s and the Ch***s, but we DON’T WANT THE IRISH!”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:13:22pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

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Good interview. Keep on fighting the good fight, Deray. Know that you have support throughout America and don’t let the hate get you down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:13:36pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

“We’ll take the N*****s and the Ch***s, but we DON’T WANT THE IRISH!”

OR TEH METHODISTS!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:14:09pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:14:10pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think he has veepness but i feel he is too choir boy like for the top spot

Yeah I think you’re right there. Plus he’d be the third or so youngest ever elected.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:14:41pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! When I first saw that a couple of days ago I thought it was from about 1968, but it’s apparently CURRENT!

I see they are backing Lantz, Fitzgerald, Siver, Loussia, and Fracassi. Hmmm. I wonder if they realize that previous generations were just as concerned with keeping the Italians, Irish, and Germans out?

I have to remember those names in order to not vote for them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:15:11pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

OR TEH METHODISTS!!!!!!!

No, but Heddy Lamarr (That’s HEDLEY!!!) wants them.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:16:38pm

He was horribly beaten.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:17:04pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

OR TEH METHODISTS!!!!!!!

Worse yet has to be the irish Methodists. Gotta hand it to them, they probably piss off the Catholics, Presbyterians, and Anglicans. Heh I know it’s from the movie but I was just thinking about what an existence it must be to be an Irish Methodist or an Irish Baptist. But as the Galway Races lyrics go “The Catholic, the Protestant, the Jew, the Presbyterian, there was no aminosty.” Regarding that though, I am now positive that my Northern Irish great great great grandfather was a Catholic since I was told that the only Catholics could be buried in Pittsburgh archdiocese cemeteries for years. Figured he was and I didn’t care one way or the other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:17:35pm

PSA: There are a couple of propagandists over on the sidebars that just need 2-3 more downdings to remove them from Recent Pages.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:17:47pm

Did you ever have a good deep conversation with a person and come away feeling rather unempowered? Just because you and the person who listened had no real influence?

So what happens when a young and extroverted person in an industry famous for tradition/intransigence unknowingly speaks genuine truth to real power? Let me share this way inside jewelry tidbit…. Anonymous by necessity sorry.

Remember back in June, when I told you jewelry industry friends about my young industry friend who shared a last-minute cigarette outside with Philippe Mellier, De Beers Group CEO, just before the Jewelers for Children Gala in Las Vegas? She didn’t know to whom she was speaking, and he only told her he “worked for De Beers.”
She proceeded to read him the riot act about how De Beers’ lack of generic advertising had tanked diamond sales in the U.S.! She only realized who he was LATER — when he got up to accept his award as the dinner’s honoree - HAHAHAHAHA!
Well, it looks like Monsieur Mellier was listening to my young friend. Voila! De Beers will have a holiday marketing campaign this year! Whoo hoo! ‪#‎OutOfTheMouthsOfBabes‬

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:18:12pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

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He was horribly beaten.

That wasn’t that long ago. A terrible thing that poor woman suffered. I remember seeing that prick Stacy McCain try to claim that Emmett deserved it for whistling at the lady and that it wasn’t racially motivated. Bullshit, they wouldn’t have murdered a white kid.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:20:33pm

Okay I guess I can share this since I finally got a start date but I finally got a job. Only temporarily and I could probably still interview at the Scotus blog lead that BWS found for me but it hey gives me something neat to talk at the reunion this weekend, so long unemployment songs of woe, and hello some fresh hard earned cash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:22:25pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

A caucus definitely does seem like it would be raw pickings for a candidate like Trump or in the past Luap Nor.

Trump can soooo fuck up Rand’s caucus plan in Kentucky…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:23:00pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump can soooo fuck up Rand’s caucus plan in Kentucky…

Oh man that would be too funny if he did that. I obviously can’t stand Donald but Rand being beaten at his own game would be too funny.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:23:20pm

Well, this is interesting…

Click to Reveal

Someone has posted a list of the Fredericksburg, VA accounts of Ashley Madison. One of the accounts is in the name of William Howell, trying to figure out if it’s the same William Howell who is the Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:25:42pm

OT: but this tidbit made me feel a wee bit old… released 40 years ago today on August 25, 1975…

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:26:30pm

re: #11 freetoken

Perhaps. But such a complicated contraption will explode eventually, and in a spectacular manner when it does.

It won’t be good to standing too close.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:28:11pm

I like how Ben Shapiro and others defending Schilling aren’t even trying to sugarcoat their view that all Muslims are Islamists now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:28:12pm

re: #84 William Lewis

OT: but this tidbit made me feel a wee bit old… released 40 years ago today on August 25, 1975…

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Damn makes me feel old too and i wasn’t even born yet. It’s cool that Bruce is still rocking today.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:28:26pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Okay I guess I can share this since I finally got a start date but I finally got a job. Only temporarily and I could probably still interview at the Scotus blog lead that BWS found for me but it hey gives me something neat to talk at the reunion this weekend, so long unemployment songs of woe, and hello some fresh hard earned cash.

Congratulations! Have some fun!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:28:37pm

re: #84 William Lewis

OT: but this tidbit made me feel a wee bit old… released 40 years ago today on August 25, 1975…

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My Freshman year at Allegheny College, Bruce Springsteen performed. He’d been booked before ‘Born To Run’ hit, but the concert was after that, so it was a real coup for Allegheny, a little college in the upper left hand corner of PA to get a guy who was topping the charts.

Everyone who went said it was great. Unfortunately, I was not among them.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:30:27pm

re: #83 Timothy Watson

Click to Reveal

The PO Box on the account also goes back to this company, the Virginia State Corporation Commission has purged the records with the company (probably due to it no longer being in business) but according to this the company’s registered agent was a William J. Howell and Speaker Bill Howell’s middle name is James
virginiadirectory.co
bizapedia.com

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:30:34pm

Oh, great. Another babbie partz video is about to be trotted out on Fox.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:30:53pm

re: #36 Dave In Austin

I agree…….

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All this talk about how old Joe is…
He’s only five years older than Hillary and he’s a year younger than Bernie Sanders.
Jimmy Carter is 90 and was still going strong until this latest health development.

FWIW, I like Joe the best and wish he would have run earlier, but I would vote for him now with no hesitation if the election was held today.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:31:52pm

re: #84 William Lewis

OT: but this tidbit made me feel a wee bit old… released 40 years ago today on August 25, 1975…

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Right there with you.
Austin TX, 1974:
30daysout.wordpress.com

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:31:58pm

re: #91 Kid A

SPOILER!

Its more bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:33:50pm

re: #94 Kragar

SPOILER!

Its more bullshit.

Dude! I was really looking forward to being surprised!

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:35:19pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Dude! I was really looking forward to being surprised!

///

We do have an exclusive image from the video:

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:35:30pm

And again, it’s no one from PP in the video, yet they say it’s someone from PP in the video.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:35:56pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

That is so cute. :)

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:37:01pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

TIME reported that most people in the room Monday night are angry about national security, including the nation’s porous southern border with Mexico, and complained about the U.S. falling behind in the world.

And yet the people in that room overwhelmingly supported the party most responsible for that.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:37:27pm

re: #97 Kragar

We do have an exclusive image from the video:

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Dude, I’m not starting the reactor again! It didn’t work out so well last time!

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:37:48pm

“The allegations made by the proponents did not justify spending over $300,000 of taxpayer dollars for this audit,” Leyva said. “Since a compelling fact-based case was not made for this audit, I could not support a proposal that may ultimately hurt the countless women and men that rely on these vital health services every day.”

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:38:30pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Curt Schilling has some defenders

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:39:00pm

re: #102 Kragar

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Sanity in government, something that seems more and more fleeting every day.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:39:54pm

I’m trying to make it through the premier episode of FTWD… but finding it dragging on and on. I started watching yesterday, now only 75% of the way through.

If it didn’t come with the cachet of previous zombie hit, would so many people have stuck with it through the whole episode? Supposedly it was the most-watched cable show premier. I guess I can believe it, given marketing and all, but there is little there there in the first 30 minutes.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:41:14pm

re: #105 freetoken

I’m trying to make it through the premier episode of FTWD… but finding it dragging on and on. I started watching yesterday, now only 75% of the way through.

If it didn’t come with the cachet of previous zombie hit, would so many people have stuck with it through the whole episode? Supposedly it was the most-watched cable show premier. I guess I can believe it, given marketing and all, but there is little there there in the first 30 minutes.

Yeah, it definitely dragged quite a bit, but picked up slightly towards the end.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:41:31pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

Congratulations! Have some fun!

Thanks. I am just glad to be back working. I may be pretty shy but I do like meeting new people.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:43:28pm

re: #102 Kragar

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From time to time I am quite proud of my home state. Yaay!

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:44:19pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I understand that. I was unemployed for over 1 year. It was awful. I was so happy just to be working again that it did not matter what I did.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:44:43pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

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Is this hat really my color? Not sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:45:20pm

re: #105 freetoken

I’m trying to make it through the premier episode of FTWD… but finding it dragging on and on. I started watching yesterday, now only 75% of the way through.

If it didn’t come with the cachet of previous zombie hit, would so many people have stuck with it through the whole episode? Supposedly it was the most-watched cable show premier. I guess I can believe it, given marketing and all, but there is little there there in the first 30 minutes.

I had that same prob on Sunday night…I just wanted to go to sleep.
I stuck it out because I figured it was needed background…

OTOH, I missed the WD Season 5, episode 1 about how they all got our of Terminus because hubs was watching Maleficent on another channel.

*crankyface*

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:46:01pm

The photographer:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:46:01pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Thanks. I am just glad to be back working. I may be pretty shy but I do like meeting new people.

Still got major positive vibes headed your way for the SCOTUS job!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:46:04pm

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

I understand that. I was unemployed for over 1 year. It was awful. I was so happy just to be working again that it did not matter what I did.

Yeah this is far from my dream job honestly but it’s something and I am going to do my best.I really think getting the paralegal certificate has made me more desirable to employees than if I just had my BA which is where I was last fall and winter.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:46:25pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

Sanity in government, something that seems more and more fleeting every day.

This episode of sanity is exclusively due to the fact that the GOP has no real power at the state level in CA.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:47:05pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still got major positive vibes headed your way for the SCOTUS job!

I told you that they contacted me the day after and said they’d be in touch next month. I really want that one. It would be a much further commute but it would be a lot of fun too. I could spend all day reading about court cases.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:48:29pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I told you that they contacted me the day after and said they’d be in touch next month. I really want that one. It would be a much further commute but it would be a lot of fun too. I could spend all day reading about court cases.

It would be so great for you, even though it’s just a two year commitment.
You could build on your skills so much, and the contacts you could make? Priceless!

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:49:51pm

Heh. Trump is on MSNBC right now being a thug. They just threw a Univision reporter out and he just said he would not apologize to Megyn Kelly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:50:21pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Heh. Trump is on MSNBC right now being a thug. They just threw a Univision reporter out and he just said he would not apologize to Megyn Kelly.

Pompous asshole just has to be a pompous asshole.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:50:54pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Heh. Trump is on MSNBC right now being a thug. They just threw a Univision reporter out and he just said he would not apologize to Megyn Kelly.

Edit. They are covering him answering questions at a presser in Iowa.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:51:00pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Yeah this is far from my dream job honestly but it’s something and I am going to do my best.I really think getting the paralegal certificate has made me more desirable to employees than if I just had my BA which is where I was last fall and winter.

I hear that it’s a lot easier to find a job once you have a job.

No personal experience to put it to the test, but…

Hopefully this will mean good things for the job you really want.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:51:02pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Oy Vey. I know alley cats who have more class than that Trump person.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:51:21pm

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:52:00pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

They just threw a Univision reporter out

Which goes to show how much Trump reveres a free press.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:52:06pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

He was mean to one of those people, expect this to add to his lead.

Sigh.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:52:46pm

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:52:51pm

The guy they escorted out of Trump’s press event was a Univision Anchor.

Edit: His name is Ramos.

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Jenner7  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:53:01pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

::collectiveGOPfacepalm::

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:53:02pm

Trump will hit 40% after this by midnight.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:53:48pm

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:54:00pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Remember that the people who are likely to approve of this move are the same ones who were absolutely outraged that the President snarked back to Major Garrett.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:54:07pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He was mean to one of those people, expect this to add to his lead.

Sigh.

He’s getting more Greg Stilson-like every day. How soon before one of these reporters is accosted by some of his ‘passionate’ followers?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:54:08pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you piss off the Donald or ask him things he doesn’t want to answer. I look forward to future press conferences with the republican front runner in which there are only reps from the press who have kissed his ring and grovelled enough.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:09pm

re: #132 makeitstop

He’s getting more Greg Stilson-like every day. How soon before one of these reporters is accosted by some of his ‘passionate’ followers?

Oh…probably Tomorrow. I mean wingnut twitter shat all over Megyn Kelly within hours of the debate.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:09pm

TRUMP: “We’re a very poor nation.”

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:14pm

Jorge has a yoooge audience.

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DobermanBoston  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:20pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

The guy they escorted out of Trump’s press event was a Univision Anchor.

Security officer was twice his size too. Not such good optics.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:27pm

re: #135 Kid A

TRUMP: “We’re a very poor nation.”

You gotta be shittin me…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:32pm

And I’m sure the wingnuts will be going hog wild cheering Trump for doing that.

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Jenner7  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:56:57pm

Trump’s going to file America for bankruptcy. He has experience with that.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:58:52pm

re: #133 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you piss off the Donald or ask him things he doesn’t want to answer. I look forward to future press conferences with the republican front runner in which there are only reps from the press who have kissed his ring and grovelled enough.

I’m sure that Hitler would have handled reporters he didn’t want to deal with in much the same way, prior to seizing absolute power.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:59:23pm

So, according to Trump the gangs in Ferguson are all illegal immigrants.

How does that work?

Just feeding them 50% fat meat. Yum!

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Jenner7  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:59:27pm

We (as a country) should be embarrassed. This man is a joke and is being taken seriously. I want to laugh, but it makes me sad.

Gotta go make dinner. BBL.

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KGxvi  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:59:40pm

re: #140 Jenner7

just wait until someone explains to Trump that the government can just repudiate its debts and walk away…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:00:02pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Any possible chance of Trump catering to Lations wasn’t just destroyed-it was fucking nuked.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:00:04pm

re: #138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

You gotta be shittin me…

I am not Chuck C. Johnsoning you.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:00:11pm

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:00:45pm

Damn he’s talking like he is already President.

“I’m going to spend a lot of time here.”

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:00:50pm

re: #143 Jenner7

We (as a country) should be embarrassed. This man is a joke and is being taken seriously. I want to laugh, but it makes me sad.

Gotta go make dinner. BBL.

Trump is a decidedly un-funny joke. This business of scapegoating immigrants is legitimately dangerous.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:01:07pm

re: #106 Kragar

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clearly AMC is trying to wring every last eye-on-product-minute out of the built up audience of TWD.

If this had come out without being a prequel to a hit series, I think it would have been more highly criticized.

Click to Reveal

It may just be me, but I found the main characters very unlovable and not very realistic. Teachers, especially lit teachers, are not so dull, in my experience.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:01:28pm

re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat

Any possible chance of Trump catering to Lations wasn’t just destroyed-it was fucking nuked.

This is the GOP frontrunner, and he’s doing more damage to the party than the Clinton campaign could even dream of. Whoever ultimately wins the nomination, assuming he doesn’t, is gonna be carrying such heavy baggage in this man’s wake that there is no way they’ll ever make up the ground lost before next November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:01:44pm

re: #135 Kid A

TRUMP: “We’re a very poor nation.”

Trump has NO FUCKING IDEA of the definition of “poor”.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:02:11pm

And the Trump bus just drove over Scooter Walker.

Bye bye Scottie.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:02:27pm

“I love the bible. I love the bible.”

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:02:30pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

You are right. He is totally clueless.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:03:19pm

re: #154 Kid A

It has to be a performance art.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:04:07pm

Jorge Ramos is back.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:04:22pm

Heh…Univision guy is back in the room asking his question now.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:05:30pm

re: #157 Kid A

re: #158 ObserverArt

Good for him. Now all he has to do is ask his questions without that Trump person interfering.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:05:56pm

re: #159 PhillyPretzel

Good for him. Now all he has to do is ask his questions without that Trump person interfering.

Not happening. Ramos can’t get two words out of his mouth.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:06:23pm

Trump to Ramos: “I have a bigger heart than you do.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:08:01pm

re: #161 Kid A

Trump to Ramos: “I have a bigger heart than you do.”

Probably enlarged from doing coke in the 80s.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:08:02pm

re: #161 Kid A

Man, I really wish someone would cold clock Trump.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:08:39pm

re: #160 Kid A

That is awful. Trump is a bully. It is a pity no one can take him to the woodshed.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:09:34pm

I want to correct my 40% call upstairs. Make it 50% after this back-and-forth with Ramos. TRUMP’S know-nothings are going to eat this shit up.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:09:52pm

re: #163 The War TARDIS

Man, I really wish someone would cold clock Trump.

considering that he’s taking on fox news and basically all of the republican establishment, i would be doubling up on my security if it was me

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:10:33pm

Borrowing an old Revolutionary War saying…

Don’t fire a political comeback at The TRUMP until you see the white around his eyes!

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:10:42pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

This is the GOP frontrunner, and he’s doing more damage to the party than the Clinton campaign could even dream of. Whoever ultimately wins the nomination, assuming he doesn’t, is gonna be carrying such heavy baggage in this man’s wake that there is no way they’ll ever make up the ground lost before next November.

I certainly hope the damage to the GOP is both severe and permanent. However, I will need to see that before I believe it.

In any case, Trump’s getting a large faction of the GOP to latch onto open white nationalism makes this possible destruction of the GOP too double-edged for my comfort.

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Agnostick  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:10:53pm

This is complete bullshit. Just because someone crawls out of a hole and makes a statement of support, I’m not sure that means that Trump welcomes that support, much less encourages it.

The Communist Party USA has endorsed Obama/Biden the last two elections. How many here would use that fact to argue that Obama and Biden are, therefore, dyed in the wool communists? Even if they made a few comments or policy statements supporting ideas that might have something in common with communism, or socialism?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:11:12pm

when is trump gonna start tapping into the muslim hate?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:11:18pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

So, according to Trump the gangs in Ferguson are all illegal immigrants.

How does that work?

Just feeding them 50% fat meat. Yum!

Well remember he opposes the 14th amendment which gave citizenship to former slaves.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:11:36pm

“And we’ll have a border; and we’ll have a wall. And we’ll have a beautiful door there.”

The worst scriptwriter in Hollywood couldn’t come up with this shit.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:11:50pm

mexico wall specs:

1) high enough so that it cant be flown over

2) deep enough so that it cant be tunneled underneath

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:12:14pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

when is trump gonna start tapping into the muslim hate?

Soon enough I imagine.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:12:32pm

#169 Oh, great…

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:12:53pm

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:05pm

re: #169 Agnostick

This is complete bullshit. Just because someone crawls out of a hole and makes a statement of support, I’m not sure that means that Trump welcomes that support, much less encourages it.

The Communist Party USA has endorsed Obama/Biden the last two elections. How many here would use that fact to argue that Obama and Biden are, therefore, dyed in the wool communists? Even if they made a few comments or policy statements supporting ideas that might have something in common with communism, or socialism?

trump’s ‘deniability’ is less ‘plausible’

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:16pm

TRUMP: “I think Fox News covers me terribly.”

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:20pm

re: #169 Agnostick

This is complete bullshit. Just because someone crawls out of a hole and makes a statement of support, I’m not sure that means that Trump welcomes that support, much less encourages it.

The Communist Party USA has endorsed Obama/Biden the last two elections. How many here would use that fact to argue that Obama and Biden are, therefore, dyed in the wool communists? Even if they made a few comments or policy statements supporting ideas that might have something in common with communism, or socialism?

Show me where Obama/Biden has provided aid and comfort to Communists the way Trump has with the white nationalists. After all, Trump got this circus started with the ‘Mexican rapists’ crap.

Since you can’t, your ‘point’ is null and void.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:28pm

Meanwhile, Denver is acting against Chick-Fil-A.

Remember when Chick-fil-A was so very proud to be anti-gay? Well, pride goeth before a fall.

Franchisees want to open a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in the Denver International Airport. They thought they’d be a shoo-in. They have successfully operated several other fast food restaurants at the airport without complaint, and a 2013 survey found Chick-fil-A was the second-most sought-after fast food chain for airport visitors, trailing only Chipotle. But for the moment, the Chick-fil-A deal is on hold, after councilmembers on the Business Development Committee questioned the ethics of giving a seven-year concession agreement to a company with Chick-fil-A’s reputation.

This needs to happen more.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:30pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Well remember he opposes the 14th amendment which gave citizenship to former slaves.

So, he’s going all the way back to the beginning of the Amendment. That is some political maneuvering if I have ever seen it. But then, he has legal scholars that back him!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:13:38pm

re: #169 Agnostick

Umm…you haven’t been paying attention…Trump has been freely retweeting white supremacists.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:14:00pm

re: #169 Agnostick

Pay attention if you want it to make sense. If you don’t want it to make sense, go spew elsewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:14:25pm

re: #178 Kid A

TRUMP: “I think Fox News covers me terribly.”

translation: They haven’t been worshipping me to the level I demand.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:14:36pm

re: #177 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump’s ‘deniability’ is less ‘plausible’

Trump’s deniability is nonexistent.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:16:20pm

I swear this is the greatest ratfucking of the GOP I have ever witnessed.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:16:34pm

trump vs jeb/fox all out war

what did we do to be so lucky?

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:17:08pm

re: #187 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Rubbed the Buddha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:17:44pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

when is trump gonna start tapping into the muslim hate?

Donald Trump Ditches Political Correctness, Slams Muslims Everywhere

Donald Trump sat down with Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly to discuss the world’s “Muslim problem.” As usual, the business mogul didn’t hold back, infuriating the PC police and liberals everywhere.

donotlink.com

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:19:29pm

re: #169 Agnostick

This is complete bullshit. Just because someone crawls out of a hole and makes a statement of support, I’m not sure that means that Trump welcomes that support, much less encourages it.

The Communist Party USA has endorsed Obama/Biden the last two elections. How many here would use that fact to argue that Obama and Biden are, therefore, dyed in the wool communists? Even if they made a few comments or policy statements supporting ideas that might have something in common with communism, or socialism?

Gee, I don’t know. Perhaps it’s the fact that trump is spouting the same racist B.S. that duke has been spouting for years when it comes to minorities. Then add in the fact that he has not only not repudiated duke, but by his silence, condones him

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:19:42pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:21:12pm

re: #190 Bubblehead II

Gee, I don’t know. Perhaps it’s the fact that trump is spouting the same racist B.S. that duke has been spouting for years when it comes to minorities. Then add in the fact that he has not only not repudiated duke, but by his silence, condones him

And CPUSA admits they endorse Democrats simply because they see them as a lesser evil against the Republicans. It’s about as lukewarm as an endorsement as you can get. Plus as you say point out, Trump has embraced the racism big time. His response about the two men who attacked the immigrant in South Boston. “My supporters are passionate.”

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:21:50pm

re: #186 Kid A

I swear this is the greatest ratfucking of the GOP I have ever witnessed.

This could be turned into a hilarious comedy sketch. Imagine a hog calling contest where the hog in question is the most repulsive imaginable animal (i.e., the GOP base).

The hog has been conditioned for decades to respond favorably only to hate and fear, but now there is confusion.

Two hog-callers, one a clever charlatan that knows exactly what the hog wants to hear, the other a true believer hampered by delusions that the hog is better then it is.

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:22:13pm

re: #186 Kid A

I swear this is the greatest ratfucking of the GOP I have ever witnessed.

Remember, Prince Rebus has said he thinks Trump will make a fine GOP candidate.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:22:46pm

Conspiracies….

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:23:17pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

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Yeah, some of the more “colorful” characters I follow on Twitter have been talking about that. They’re eating it up, like it’s red meat. “Trumpykins is a real man, he threw out that “Journalist” with a latino name for trying to troll like #BlackLivesMatter did.”

I’ll be very glad when Trump drops out and all these idiots fall in line behind Jeb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:23:27pm

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:24:07pm

TRUMP: MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:24:14pm

re: #194 Skip Intro

Remember, Prince Rebus has said he thinks Trump will make a fine GOP candidate.

Mr. RNC PR BS has no choice in the matter. His puppet-masters in the GOP establishment aren’t willing yet to fight all-out against Trump.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:25:32pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

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It’s not that he was thrown out that makes me shake my head so much as none of his fellow reporters doing anything to stop it or press Trump for answers as to why. It seems that some are more equal in the “fourth estate” than others.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:25:43pm

re: #198 Kid A

TRUMP: MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.

Totally stole that:

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:26:54pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally stole that:

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I need to copyright that one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:27:14pm

re: #202 Kid A

I need to copyright that one.

yeppers

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:27:24pm

re: #198 Kid A

TRUMP: MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.

really, somebody should get that printed up on a bunch of caps and mix them in with the regular campaign ones

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nines09  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:27:26pm

Trump is King Pimp. Everyone is his bitch. Now kneel.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:27:27pm

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

Hey baby. You having trouble with your transmission?

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Video

What did I just watch?!?

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:28:12pm

One of the Photoshop wizards here should find a pic with TRUMP and that stupid hat and put my new slogan on it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:28:21pm

a friend at work gave me a bag of rambutans but really theyre too cute to eat

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:28:39pm

Seriously, imagine if tomorrow the President held a presser and, instead of just refusing to call on the Fox reporter or responding in a snarky fashion, he had the Secret Service haul them off and out the door. There is no way in hell that the other reporters in the room would stay quiet about that or just act as if it was a non-event.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:29:19pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally stole that:

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:29:31pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

GOHMERT! would draw up an article of impeachment.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:29:33pm

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:29:52pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Okay I guess I can share this since I finally got a start date but I finally got a job. Only temporarily and I could probably still interview at the Scotus blog lead that BWS found for me but it hey gives me something neat to talk at the reunion this weekend, so long unemployment songs of woe, and hello some fresh hard earned cash.

That’s FANTASTIC!! Congrats!!

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Black d20  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:30:02pm

re: #196 KiTA

Considering how badly Jeb’s sinking himself (and the fact, that at least for now, Reince is kissing the Trump Ring) I dunno.

Sometimes, red meat tastes really good. Fresher the better.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:32:05pm

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:32:07pm

re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat

Any possible chance of Trump catering to Lations wasn’t just destroyed-it was fucking nuked.

Trump is already -51 among Hispanics, but that stunt should get him to -60 or more.

Of course, white nativists/xenophobes will go crazy in support, pushing his overall numbers up even higher.

This is the GOP folks. Nativist. Xenophobic. Racist. Misogynistic.

And if you think that the local and state GOP is any better, you’re fooling yourself. Trump’s even louder and more proud of his racist/hate filled tirades, which I think will only stoke the lower levels of the GOP to abandon all pretense of being a “big tent” party and focus entirely on letting their hate flow.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:32:35pm

re: #195 freetoken

Conspiracies….

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:33:08pm

re: #207 Kid A

One of the Photoshop wizards here should find a pic with TRUMP and that stupid hat and put my new slogan on it.

You might want to give that a second thought. America is even dumber than any of us ever thought possible.

Supporters tell horrified GOP pollster why they trust Trump to make America great again: ‘It’s on his hat’

But supporters mostly explained that they found Trump’s message — which is pitched to a third-grade level — appealing because it was easy to understand.

“We know his goal is to make America great again,” one woman said. “It’s on his hat, and we see it every time it’s on TV. Everything that he’s doing, there’s no doubt why he’s doing it — it’s to make America great again.”

Luntz showed the participants recordings of Trump insulting women, bragging about himself and reversing his previous positions on a variety of topics — but the vast majority said they only liked him more after watching the videos.

rawstory.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:33:23pm

re: #196 KiTA

Yeah, some of the more “colorful” characters I follow on Twitter have been talking about that. They’re eating it up, like it’s red meat. “Trumpykins is a real man, he threw out that “Journalist” with a latino name for trying to troll like #BlackLivesMatter did.”

I’ll be very glad when Trump drops out and all these idiots fall in line behind Jeb.

I don’t follow anyone like that. If I find that I am, I unfollow.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:34:00pm

seriously, kicking out the univision reporter could be the thin end of the wedge of intimidation of press freedom if trump becomes president

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:36:30pm

re: #220 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

seriously, kicking out the univision reporter could be the thin end of the wedge of intimidation of press freedom if trump becomes president

More like a blunt instrument if the press prints in Spanish.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:37:28pm

re: #214 Black d20

Considering how badly Jeb’s sinking himself (and the fact, that at least for now, Reince is kissing the Trump Ring) I dunno.

Sometimes, red meat tastes really good. Fresher the better.

I can’t decide which would be worse. For one, I can’t stand the idea of Hillary in the White House — she’s a corporate shill of the worst kind. But the idea of any of the losers and assholes on the right even getting their party’s nomination is even more frightening.

Personally I’m hoping for Bernie, but like how the Clintons teamed up with the GOP to take out Green party candidates in California, I really don’t think Bernie would be able to make it to the finish line without being betrayed by the “left.”

Bah. It’s really the best of a bunch of bad options, isn’t it? When is the earliest the Dems can start taking back the other branches?

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:37:31pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

More like a blunt instrument if the press prints in Spanish.

“Push 1 for English. Push 2 for English. Push 3 for English.”

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:37:48pm

I wonder what our new national uniforms will look like?

National Polling Results
Trump Breaks New Ceiling In National GOP Poll

The New York real estate mogul has surged 30% above his pre-debate first place poll finish of 30.8% (as reported by OAN on July 31st) soaring to a new high of 40.1%.

campaign.r20.constantcontact.com

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:38:30pm

And the music for TRUMP’S intro? “You’re The Best Around.”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:40:17pm

re: #222 KiTA

…

Bah. It’s really the best of a bunch of bad options, isn’t it? When is the earliest the Dems can start taking back the other branches?

The Senate turnover cycle gives the Dems a large advantage in 2016. Weakness in state legislatures means they will be struggling for the House for a long time.

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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:40:22pm

re: #225 Kid A

hell, he should be using Molly Hatchet’s Flirting With Disaster

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:41:47pm

Wow! I think I see a black person in the crowd!

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:42:16pm

re: #169 Agnostick

Looks like someone’s been keeping their powder dry for the better part of a year…

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:42:46pm

re: #229 TedStriker

Looks like someone’s been keeping their powder dry for the better part of a year…

It went away, I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:43:26pm

re: #228 Kid A

Wow! I think I see a black person in the crowd!

Prolly just some random white person. like Bobby Jindal with a really dark relaxing tan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:44:21pm

re: #230 Kid A

It went away, I think.

Like an annoying zit on date night, it usually happens.
Eventually.

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:45:30pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:45:32pm

Always sad to see when people don’t get their promised ponies and then just lash out.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:45:40pm

re: #230 Kid A

It went away, I think.

Yep. Came and dropped a turd and then ran off.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:45:45pm

re: #195 freetoken

Conspiracies….

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:47:14pm

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:48:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:48:36pm

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:49:30pm

Oh for fuck’s sake LOL.
TRUMP: “‘The Art of the Deal’ is my second favorite book. My favorite book is the bible.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:49:56pm

re: #238 Kid A

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stole another one!

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:50:16pm

Uh oh. TRUMP just said we need to use the phrase “Silent Majority” again.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:51:08pm

re: #242 Kid A

Uh oh. TRUMP just said we need to use the phrase “Silent Majority” again.

Yet another thing about Trump’s campaign that sounds better in the original German.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:51:38pm

For all we know, the GOP has kicked our asses tactically (again) and Trump’s just a warm up act. JEB! talked Romney out of running. He could have talked Trump into firing up the rubes and then handing them over to him. Though JEB! doesn’t seem bright enough to cook that up in his own, James Baker is still around and he’s probably just a much a devious son-of-a-bitch as he ever was.

Portraying Trump as the monster in that pack seems to distract from the reality that they’re all fucking monsters. The rest of them would give you all of the xenophobia while doing their best to deny women’s choice and shredding the social safety net.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:51:39pm

So I guess Trump’s staff found the only black person in Iowa and had her sit in the crowd behind him.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:52:03pm

A shopped image based on Trump tonight…

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:52:37pm

Trump on dealing with the Chinese: “He say ‘WE WANT DEAL!’”

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:53:22pm

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KGxvi  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:53:29pm

re: #226 Decatur Deb

the Dems need 4 or 5 pick ups (depending on the outcome of the presidential election) to take control of the Senate. Best options would be Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. That also requires holding Nevada and Colorado. Might be harder for the Democrats to regain the Senate - unless there’s a Trump nomination, then I could see a lot of the seats that would normally be considered walks to get interesting.

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:53:51pm

re: #242 Kid A

Uh oh. TRUMP just said we need to use the phrase “Silent Majority” again.

With President for Life Trump, the phrase will become “silenced majority”, because no one will be allowed to question Dear Leader at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:54:57pm

re: #248 lawhawk

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:56:20pm

LOLWHUT

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:58:08pm

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

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So it steals from other crayfish, exposes them to danger from predators, and then runs away for a safe harbor?

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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:58:17pm

re: #249 KGxvi

Depending upon who the GOP nominates, or maybe if someone is thinking about it even now, this should be a boost for Democratic outreach and getting new voters registered. All you have to do is just show them what ALL of these guys are saying and get them their voter registration information. Doesn’t mean that the GOP statehouses won’t try and deny them their rights, but I would think that this should be inspiration enough to get people to do the tasks necessary to be eligible to vote.

Maybe that’s naivete on my part, but I think a big part of the “silent majority” DOESN’T agree with these asshats and we need to ensure that we help these folks get registered, stay informed and then finally VOTE.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:00:52pm

re: #248 lawhawk

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He compared Muslims to Nazis you dingus. Muslims not Islamists. They’re not the same. How would you feel if someone said all Irish people supported the IRA’s terrorist acts, Petey?

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:00:59pm

I’ve seen monkey poo flinging fights at the zoo that are better organized than the GOP is these days.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:01:36pm

re: #256 lawhawk

I’ve seen monkey poo flinging fights at the zoo that are better organized than the GOP is these days.

The difference is the monkeys don’t know any better.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:02:21pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ya know what, i sympathize with alot of Irish republicanism but Pete’s blatant hypocrisy on Muslims and the Irish is just appalling. And this guy is supposedly one of the “moderates” and “voices of reason” in his party. Uh huh.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:02:23pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t he be happy if they all had? I thought he was the one who used to help them fund raise & launder money?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:02:48pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

And now it lives inside a shark’s mouth?

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b.d.  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:05pm

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT

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If they find a parasite that feeds off of the Snowden crayfish I have a name in mind for him

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:26pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

The difference is the monkeys don’t know any better.

The GOP doesn’t know better either. A steady diet of self-propaganda has rotted their brains.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:34pm

re: #259 William Lewis

Wouldn’t he be happy if they all had? I thought he was the one who used to help them fund raise & launder money?

He’s since renounced them since Sinn Fein opposed Bush’s wars in Iraq and Pete “discovered” they were Marxist in ideology.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:44pm

re: #261 b.d.

The GG borer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:52pm

re: #261 b.d.

If they find a parasite that feeds off of the Snowden crayfish I have a name in mind for him

Greenwaldis?

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:04:01pm

re: #248 lawhawk

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Timothy Watson  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:04:08pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Ya know what, i sympathize with alot of Irish republicanism but Pete’s blatant hypocrisy on Muslims and the Irish is just appalling. And this guy is supposedly one of the “moderates” and “voices of reason” in his party. Uh huh.

Someone should ask him if he supported the IRA assassination attempt of Margaret Thatcher and watch him try to square that circle given the GOP’s promotion of her to a lesser deity.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:04:29pm

re: #264 jaunte

The GG borer.

It says things to you if you criticize the crawfish.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:05:13pm

Damn. I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a person speaking nationally for an important national political office that is this full of himself. It’s freaking unprecedented. Usually there are, at the minimum, filters that make a person tone it down, hide it as it were.

Not TRUMP®.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:05:52pm

re: #267 Timothy Watson

Someone should ask him if he supported the IRA assassination attempt of Margaret Thatcher and watch him try to square that circle given the GOP’s promotion of her to a lesser deity.

Right. Really the guy’s nothing but a fucking hypocrite. And honestly I think comparing even Islamists to Nazis is stretching it. Not that I have any great love for Islamist movements but the Nazis were a special kind of evil. The millions dead in their wake can attest to that.

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b.d.  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:06:01pm

re: #264 jaunte

The GG borer.

It has a better life and eats better than the crayfish

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:06:11pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Damn. I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a person speaking nationally for an important national political office that is this full of himself. It’s freaking unprecedented. Usually there are, at the minimum, filters that make a person tone it down, hide it as it were.

Not TRUMP(r).

He makes Romney look humble.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:06:27pm

Waiting for my wife to get home so I can ask here when she plans to cook the pork roast we bought Sunday.

The fun part will be when she realizes she left it in the trunk for 2 days.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:06:32pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

It says things to you if you criticize the crawfish.

The GG borer has a primitive but effective way of dealing with perceived threats. It regurgitates the entire contents of its digestive tract in the general direction of the critic and runs away.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:07:15pm

re: #254 piratedan

Hopefully, you’re not being naive. For a long time I had absolute faith that the ship of state would always right itself. Now, not so much. To me, it seems not to have completely righted itself the last forty years. Each time, there was still a bit more of a list to starboard.

As for the exhumed “silent majority,” my cynicism is so strong these days that I give chattel slavery an even chance of passing if it was put on the ballot.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:08:41pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

He makes Romney look humble.

It’s not even close. Romney is a lightweight by comparison.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:09:07pm

re: #273 Kragar

Waiting for my wife to get home so I can ask here when she plans to cook the pork roast we bought Sunday.

The fun part will be when she realizes she left it in the trunk for 2 days.

…yummy.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:09:18pm

Is he still talking?

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:10:32pm

My daughter’s likely reaction, “Look, daddy. Morons!”
“Yes, honey, alcohol and inbreeding are a terrible combination.”

We should probably be glad these wankers have identified themselves so convincingly right at the beginning of the term.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:10:48pm

re: #264 jaunte

The GG borer.

Good Gumbo?

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:11:24pm

If Trump didn’t know who Jorge Ramos was, why did he tell him to “Go back to UniVision?”

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:11:29pm

re: #248 lawhawk

What is so freaking hard to understand about the difference between free speech and consequence-free speech?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:11:36pm

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel

Embedded ImageMy daughter’s likely reaction, “Look, daddy. Morons!”
“Yes, honey, alcohol and inbreeding are a terrible combination.”

We should probably be glad these wankers have identified themselves so convincingly right at the beginning of the term.

Bros ruining college for everyone since well ever. What a bunch of dipshits.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:11:43pm

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel

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My daughter’s likely reaction, “Look, daddy. Morons!”
“Yes, honey, alcohol and inbreeding are a terrible combination.”

We should probably be glad these wankers have identified themselves so convincingly right at the beginning of the term.

And yet wingnuts act outraged anytime a frat is the subject of allegations of rape or indecent behavior.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:12:38pm

re: #281 Kid A

If Trump didn’t know who Jorge Ramos was, why did he tell him to “Go back to UniVision?”

Because all brown people look like that.

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gwangung  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:12:41pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

And yet wingnuts act outraged anytime a frat is the subject of allegations of rape or indecent behavior.

Because they’re profiling the wrong kind of people.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:12:48pm

Hope that this has already been posted and I just missed it.

Navy SEALs will open to women, top admiral says

Why shouldn’t anybody who can meet these (standards) be accepted? And the answer is, there is no reason,” [Navy CNO, Adm. Jon] Greenert said Tuesday in an exclusive interview with Navy Times’ sister publication Defense News. “So we’re on a track to say, ‘Hey look, anybody can meet the gender non-specific standards, then you can become a SEAL.”

Damn straight. The women will be superb. To the USN I say, “Well done!”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:13:01pm

re: #282 bratwurst

What is so freaking hard to understand about the difference between free speech and consequence-free speech?

So true. So many people take “free speech” as They can say whatever the fuck with no consequences. If you say something stupid like likening the world’s Muslim’s population, you’re going to get backlash. Now in fairenss to Schilling, he does seem to have realized that even though he’s an abject asshole still.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:13:11pm

re: #256 lawhawk

I’ve seen monkey poo flinging fights at the zoo that are better organized than the GOP is these days.

Monkey Knife Fight!

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:14:24pm

Major ignorance.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:14:35pm

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel

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My daughter’s likely reaction, “Look, daddy. Morons!”
“Yes, honey, alcohol and inbreeding are a terrible combination.”

We should probably be glad these wankers have identified themselves so convincingly right at the beginning of the term.

It’s catching! Idiots Ohio State frat rats with their own signage.

Hey look at me ladies…I am so damn cool!
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:15:26pm

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hope that this has already been posted and I just missed it.

Navy SEALs will open to women, top admiral says

.’”
Damn straight. The women will be superb. To the USN I say, “Well done!”

Cue the cries of “PC”, but I am with you. This is great. There are plenty of tough women out there who would make great SEALs- better than I ever would be. They shouldn’t be denied that chance simply because they are women. But of course wingnuts are going to complain that this is “feminizing” the Navy SEALs but what it is actually doing is bringing in more people. That’s why I flat out don’t get about their opposition to gays and women having big roles in the military. They want a large and powerful military but yet they only want straight guys in it. Okay good luck with that.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:15:53pm

re: #290 jaunte

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Major ignorance.

Did Trump just skip a few chapters in “An Idiot’s Guide to Foreign Policy”?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:16:05pm

re: #290 jaunte

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Major ignorance.

Well we are talking about the candidate who says the 14th amendment doesn’t hold up in court. I mean it’s only been an amendment for 150 years or so.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:16:17pm

So a friend from high school is posting that vile crap from the “Center for Medical Progress” or whatever that anti-choice pro-female slavery group is called. Their latest claptrap is supposedly catching Cate Dyer, a CEO of some research firm, “bragging about wanting 50 more dead babies a day.”

I tried to Google for more information but the only sites that came up are Infowars an the Infowars affiliated Lifenews. Is there a good takedown site available for this crap, or have we reached Benghazi level of “They’re just going to believe what they want, damn the facts” stupidity?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:16:27pm

re: #293 Targetpractice

Did Trump just skip a few chapters in “An Idiot’s Guide to Foreign Policy”?

Forward by Herman Cain, “My journey to Uz-beki-beki-stan.”.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:16:48pm

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hope that this has already been posted and I just missed it.

Navy SEALs will open to women, top admiral says

.’”
Damn straight. The women will be superb. To the USN I say, “Well done!”

Damn skippy. So long as they meet the requirements, I see nothing wrong with them being SEALs.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:17:18pm

re: #295 KiTA

Is there a good takedown site available for this crap, or have we reached Benghazi level of “They’re just going to believe what they want, damn the facts” stupidity?

We got to that point when the very first video was released this summer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:18:07pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

Damn skippy. So long as they meet the requirements, I see nothing wrong with them being SEALs.

Exactly. If these ladies are qualified enough, why the hell not. There is no reason why their gender should be a disqualifer. I shouldn’t be automatically more qualified than they are by simple virtue of having a dick. Sorry heh to put it so crudely but it really is stupid to deny these women and I am glad the Navy sees that too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:18:40pm

re: #295 KiTA

So a friend from high school is posting that vile crap from the “Center for Medical Progress” or whatever that anti-choice pro-female slavery group is called. Their latest claptrap is supposedly catching Cate Dyer, a CEO of some research firm, “bragging about wanting 50 more dead babies a day.”

I tried to Google for more information but the only sites that came up are Infowars an the Infowars affiliated Lifenews. Is there a good takedown site available for this crap, or have we reached Benghazi level of “They’re just going to believe what they want, damn the facts” stupidity?

RH Reality Check is a good place for debunking.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:20:03pm

They really have this image of pro-choicers loving the idea of killing people. It’s like something out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion honestly. All pro-choice means is you support a woman (read not some dingus who doesn’t even know her or her situation) having the right to control her own pregnancy. It may shock them but us pro-choicers celebrate just as much if not more than they do when we find out a loved one is expecting. We love babies too. We just don’t think you should be telling a woman what to do with her own body.

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:20:26pm

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Rush Limbaugh will be belching/farting all over this tomorrow.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:23:20pm

re: #208 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

a friend at work gave me a bag of rambutans but really theyre too cute to eat

Those are the little Tribble looking fruit things?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:23:32pm

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel

They’re clearly assholes. But I have to admit, I guffawed at the right-most sign.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:23:48pm

Chris Hayes’ guests are talking about FOX and saying there must have been a major revolt at FOX today to get Ailes to make the statement asking Trump to apologize to and back off of Megyn Kelly. They think all the anchors were saying “you gotta stop this guy.”

Also they talked about Ailes being totally off his game and flummoxed with The TRUMP. He is not used to being intimidated and bullied, that is his job.

If anything Trump is destroying more then the Grand Old Party. He’s cutting off their media like they were the Tower of Babel and now no one can speak to each other!

He’s just that good, that Donald Trump.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:23:50pm

re: #300 The Vicious Babushka

Thank you for the link, that’s perfect. (I wish they weren’t pushing the “Rape Culture” myth too, but oh well, take what I can get.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:24:59pm

re: #298 teleskiguy

We got to that point when the very first video was released this summer.

Apparently hope springs eternal for some people wanting validity…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:25:01pm

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:26:15pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Cue the cries of “PC”, but I am with you. This is great. There are plenty of tough women out there who would make great SEALs- better than I ever would be. They shouldn’t be denied that chance simply because they are women. But of course wingnuts are going to complain that this is “feminizing” the Navy SEALs but what it is actually doing is bringing in more people. That’s why I flat out don’t get about their opposition to gays and women having big roles in the military. They want a large and powerful military but yet they only want straight guys in it. Okay good luck with that.

You’ll hear the same shit we’ve been hearing about the two women who graduated from Ranger School: “The bar was lowered for them! They didn’t pass the same requirements as the men!” And that’s just bullshit, as it would actually be counterproductive to open special forces to women and then hold them to a lower standard. You’re not only wasting their time, but you’re also endangering their lives, if and when they should see combat. The Army would not do that shit, and the Navy sure as fuck will not do so. If you want to be a SEAL, you’re going to have to measure up, no matter how hard it may be.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:26:50pm

re: #220 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

seriously, kicking out the univision reporter could be the thin end of the wedge of intimidation of press freedom if trump becomes president

And Trump guarantees! that those Mexitinos oz gonna vote for hiz lily white racist azz. Uh huh.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:27:57pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

The notion that feminizing (Whatever the hell they take that word to mean) the SEALS in any way, shape or form is wrong speaks to conservatives’ low regard for women.

We had SEAL teams come down to play where I was. From what I saw of them firsthand, I’d say that being good at it requires intelligence, training, training, training, focus, and ferocity. Those who doubt that women can’t be fully effective in SpecOps don’t know much at all about women.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:28:51pm

Wow. So leadership. Very president. Much negotiate.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:28:54pm

re: #306 KiTA

(I wish they weren’t pushing the “Rape Culture” myth too, but oh well, take what I can get.)

Idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:29:05pm

re: #302 Skip Intro

Rush Limbaugh will be belching/farting all over this tomorrow.

Nothing like a man who got out of military service due to an ass pimple to put down the service of women who are more tougher than he is. But for some reason the military not sure if they had him on Armed Forces Radio .

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:29:24pm

re: #305 ObserverArt

Chris Hayes’ guests are talking about FOX and saying there must have been a major revolt at FOX today to get Ailes to make the statement asking Trump to apologize to and back off of Megyn Kelly. They think all the anchors were saying “you gotta stop this guy.”

Also they talked about Ailes being totally off his game and flummoxed with The TRUMP. He is not used to being intimidated and bullied, that is his job.

If anything Trump is destroying more then the Grand Old Party. He’s cutting off their media like they were the Tower of Babel and now no one can speak to each other!

He’s just that good, that Donald Trump.

Ailes has to be pissed , in that he now has to waste a perfectly good throwing-under-the-bus of one of his employees.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:29:31pm

re: #243 EPR-radar

Yet another thing about Trump’s campaign that sounds better in the original German.

Those of us who went around on this carousel the first time remember that “The Silent Majority” is a poet’s reference to the dead.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:29:57pm

re: #313 bratwurst

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Idiot.

Wouldn’t expect much from KiTA. It’s a gamergater.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:30:21pm

re: #309 Targetpractice

You’ll hear the same shit we’ve been hearing about the two women who graduated from Ranger School: “The bar was lowered for them! They didn’t pass the same requirements as the men!” And that’s just bullshit, as it would actually be counterproductive to open special forces to women and then hold them to a lower standard. You’re not only wasting their time, but you’re also endangering their lives, if and when they should see combat. The Army would not do that shit, and the Navy sure as fuck will not do so. If you want to be a SEAL, you’re going to have to measure up, no matter how hard it may be.

We already have. Some asshole on Fox called it a “PC experiment”, some guy who you know probably has never wore a military uniform in his life and thinks he can talk about military issues simply because he likes guns and warfare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:31:21pm

re: #306 KiTA

Thank you for the link, that’s perfect. (I wish they weren’t pushing the “Rape Culture” myth too, but oh well, take what I can get.)

good freaking grief.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:31:25pm

re: #303 WhatEVs

Those are the little Tribble looking fruit things?

ya

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:31:26pm

re: #289 teleskiguy

Monkey Knife Fight!

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My money’s on Furious George.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:31:27pm

re: #316 Decatur Deb

Those of us who went around on this carousel the first time remember that “The Silent Majority” is a poet’s reference to the dead.

It does seem to that and combine it with the Reagan charisma. So it’s one big happy shit stew.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:32:07pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:32:45pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

I’d like to openly invite the first female SEAL to come on to his show and challenge him to feats of strength. Or, in the alternative, have him try and run in the surf while team-carrying a log, like I’ve seen the SEALS do on teevee… With a bunch of women SEAL candidates. Let’s see how he does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:33:10pm

re: #306 KiTA

Thank you for the link, that’s perfect. (I wish they weren’t pushing the “Rape Culture” myth too, but oh well, take what I can get.)

Stacy McCain? What are you doing here at this IRRELEVANT li’l blog?

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:33:13pm

re: #313 bratwurst

So inviting women to a consensual sexual encounter is rape? Oddly regressive, anti-women’s lib definition of the term, but still not the weirdest one I’ve heard.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:33:50pm

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:00pm

re: #273 Kragar

Waiting for my wife to get home so I can ask here when she plans to cook the pork roast we bought Sunday.

The fun part will be when she realizes she left it in the trunk for 2 days.

If she’d done that down here, it should be ready about now.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:03pm

re: #326 KiTA

What the fuck are you talking about? You’re sounding like a fuckin’ neckbeard douche-bag.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:09pm

re: #326 KiTA

*rolls eyes*

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:26pm

re: #326 KiTA

So inviting women to a consensual sexual encounter is rape? Oddly regressive, anti-women’s lib definition of the term, but still not the weirdest one I’ve heard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:32pm

re: #326 KiTA

So inviting women to a consensual sexual encounter is rape? Oddly regressive, anti-women’s lib definition of the term, but still not the weirdest one I’ve heard.

Go away.
Far Far FAR away, asshole.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:34pm

re: #329 teleskiguy

What are you talking about? I’m a feminist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:52pm

re: #324 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’d like to openly invite the first female SEAL to come on to his show and challenge him to feats of strength. Or, in the alternative, have him try and run in the surf while team-carrying a log, like I’ve seen the SEALS do on teevee… With a bunch of women SEAL candidates. Let’s see how he does.

I’d love to see it but it would be in vain just like the Sean Hannity promise he’d be waterboarded to prove it wasn’t torture. Someone should have told that punkass that we actually tried and actually hanged Axis war criminals who did that to our POWs. Not saying that’s what I believe should happen but to deny waterboarding is torture takes a special kind of stupid and dishonesty that Sean’s made a career of doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:56pm

re: #326 KiTA

Oh, and FUCK OFF!

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No Depression  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:07pm

re: #323 Nyet

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That picture reminds me of this video:

Video

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:11pm

re: #323 Nyet

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Needs moar lizard.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:13pm

it’s not possible that he’s still talking… is he?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:23pm

re: #333 KiTA

What are you talking about? I’m a feminist.

Oh brother. Here we go…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:24pm

re: #326 KiTA

Do you genuinely see nothing wrong with those signs? Think they’re funny? Think women are just overreacting and being overly politically correct?

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:40pm

re: #333 KiTA

What are you talking about? I’m a feminist.

No you’re not.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:57pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Half of them are prolly lizards in disguise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:35:58pm

re: #338 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s not possible that he’s still talking… is he?

Who?
Trump or KiTA?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:36:40pm

re: #333 KiTA

If you look at this picture #313 and think that’s just a friendly way for young men to get the ladies into the house for some consensual sexy time, you’re a raving asshole, pretty much as far from a feminist as you can get. You can fuck right off with that bullshit, asshole.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:36:58pm

re: #326 KiTA

So inviting women to a consensual sexual encounter is rape? Oddly regressive, anti-women’s lib definition of the term, but still not the weirdest one I’ve heard.

Please just go away.

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gwangung  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:37:31pm

re: #333 KiTA

What are you talking about? I’m a feminist.

Like North Korea is a democracy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:37:50pm

IF a girl accepts an invitation to a college party, it means she wants to meet new friends, enjoy music and refreshments, but SHE DOES NOT AGREE TO HAVE SEX WITH ALL THE GUYS AT THAT PARTY.

It is “Rape Culture” if frat guys believe that any girls who attend their party want to have sex with them.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:37:55pm

So, I’m thinking about starting a GoFundMe to have a Big 4 accounting firm do a forensic audit of Trump’s submissions to the FEC to see if Trump is really as rich as he claims or if he’s just a financial charlatan. After all, if he is going to eventually become the leader of the Free World, donchta think we really ought to know if he’s telling the truth of just telling us a pack of lies?

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Chan Kobun  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:38:09pm

re: #326 KiTA

Sit down, ‘gator.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:38:16pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who?
Trump or KiTA?

the one with the hair that looks like the centerfold from Orangutan Monthly

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:39:12pm

Fuck me; in a fight I wouldn’t have given a crap if the one to either side of me was an intelligent reticulated python. If that python laid down fire and kept its head I’d have smoked a joint with it when the fun was over.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:39:37pm

re: #348 Eric The Fruit Bat

donchta think we really ought to know if he’s telling the truth of just telling us a pack of lies?

He’ll be the leader of the 25% that just don’t care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:39:56pm

“Rape Culture” means all those slutty college girls are claiming fake rape ALL THE TIME.
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:40:05pm

re: #323 Nyet

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We have a “no photos” rule at our committee meetings. I guess “artist’s conceptions” are okay though.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:40:43pm

re: #333 KiTA

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:40:53pm

I attended a community college and then transferred to a 4-year college close to home so I missed out on all that “campus life.”

My daughter likewise commuted to Columbia from her home in Brooklyn.

Because college means getting an education and not having sex with a bunch of guys just because you went to their party.

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:40:57pm

re: #326 KiTA

There’s plenty of Gamergate and MRA sites you could post at. They’d welcome you with open arms.

Asshole.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:41:32pm

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Edit: What I mean is how would you, as the opposing candidate, debate him?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:41:55pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Get drunk.

/half

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:42:25pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Biden.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:42:29pm

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Get drunk.

/half

/completely

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:42:40pm

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Get drunk.

/half

A very Churchillian answer there. Ding.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:42:41pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

The main point would be never losing your cool… which with Trump is haaaard to do…

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:42:59pm

re: #320 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

ya

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What do you do with them?

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:43:22pm

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Get drunk.

/half

You made me edit my question.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:43:31pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Die of laughter and be the first candidate since Horace Greeley to die before a presidential election.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:43:52pm

re: #365 Belafon

You made me edit my question.

I did figure you probably meant the moderator/other candidate.

My answer might still stand, at least for the moderator. >.>

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:43:59pm

I think if Biden were debating Trump, he’d have a difficult time not miming jerking off during Trump’s bloviating, which is what is missing when he talks about how great he is - someone behind him doing that.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:04pm

Trump is something that crawled from under a rock youtube video.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:05pm

re: #364 WhatEVs

What do you do with them?

it reminds me too much of my bypass surgery

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:12pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Ethyl alcohol enemas followed by a fart lighting contest on-stage.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:12pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

Exactly as though I had met him in a bar. Turn around and walk away. There is no law or profit that says you must debate buffoons.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:19pm

re: #326 KiTA

So inviting women to a consensual sexual encounter is rape? Oddly regressive, anti-women’s lib definition of the term, but still not the weirdest one I’ve heard.

Are you always an asshole or just generally an asshole? Asshole.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:44pm

I want Trump to declare an openly white supremacist candidacy. I want them to just let it all hang out. Go ahead, GOP… Roll out the Rebel flags, break out the hoods, and gas up some propane-lit crosses for the convention lawn (right next to the protest zone).

Messicans? Fuck ‘em.
Nigras? Fuck ‘em.
The Chiyaneese? Fuck ‘em.
The Poor? Fuck ‘em.

I want him to do it, and for the whole party to fall in behind him, so we can stop pretending. If he’s such a gutsy businessman, he should just be honest.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:51pm

re: #369 Nyet

Trump is something that crawled from under a rock youtube video.

SHIT, THE COMMENTS SECTION HAS COME TO LIFE.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:44:58pm

re: #363 Nyet

The main point would be never losing your cool… which with Trump is haaaard to do…

Yeah that’d be hard for me his xenophobia is a very personal issue for me given my SiL and niece. Speaking of dicks, I saw the other that Cruz made a crack about Carter the day after Carter announced that the cancer had spread to his brain.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:45:13pm

re: #358 Belafon

Question: If Trump actually were to become the candidate, how would you deal with him in the debates?

seriously?

variations on the theme “but these are serious problems and we cant solve them with slogans and comic book answers”

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:45:13pm

For all you smokers out there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:45:22pm

HABOOB!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:45:40pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

HABOOB!!!

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You just like saying the word boob.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:00pm

re: #369 Nyet

Trump is something that crawled from under a rock youtube video.

Yeah he’s a walking comments section.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:23pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You just like saying the word boob.

Naw, that would be RBS…
:D

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:30pm

re: #378 teleskiguy

For all you smokers out there.

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My two-year anniversary is in three weeks. And I’ve never even come close to cheating. Not once.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:46pm

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

Naw, that would be RBS…
:D

Someone show me their boobies!

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:56pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Good one!

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:47:16pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You just like saying the word boob.

Ha! Boob!

Talking about Trump obviously.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:47:36pm

re: #287 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hope that this has already been posted and I just missed it.

Navy SEALs will open to women, top admiral says

Damn straight. The women will be superb. To the USN I say, “Well done!”

This is now the 5th barrier women in the Navy have broken. The first was women on surface ships. Followed by Naval Aviation. Then they allowed them on submarines (they started with O gangers) and are now accepting enlisted personel.

First enlisted women picked for subs begin training

The Navy began recruiting women in January for submarine service. The first group chosen was announced in June and will begin serving on submarines next year.

GO NAVY!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:16pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You just like saying the word boob.

Ha! BOOB!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:26pm

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

Ha! BOOB!

TOO SLOW!

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Chan Kobun  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:32pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Yeah he’s a walking comments section.

Video

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:35pm

re: #386 Belafon

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

DAMMIT!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:48pm

re: #384 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Someone show me their boobies!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:03pm

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

YAY, I knew you would come through for me.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:21pm

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Biden.

I think Hilary could hold her own, as well. Trump is a loudmouth but Hillary is no pushover.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:22pm

re: #385 Nyet

Good one!

Yeah forget crazy Uncle Mike at Thanksgiving, Donald’s that dickhead that goes on a racist rant about Obama on a story about African-Americans.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:29pm

re: #383 Kid A

Well done!

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:56pm

re: #295 KiTA

So a friend from high school is posting that vile crap from the “Center for Medical Progress” or whatever that anti-choice pro-female slavery group is called. Their latest claptrap is supposedly catching Cate Dyer, a CEO of some research firm, “bragging about wanting 50 more dead babies a day.”

I tried to Google for more information but the only sites that came up are Infowars an the Infowars affiliated Lifenews. Is there a good takedown site available for this crap, or have we reached Benghazi level of “They’re just going to believe what they want, damn the facts” stupidity?

Yes.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:13pm

re: #358 Belafon

THe only thing you can do: point out how his businesses has been failures using other peoples money while he protected his own wealth, which is how he will run the country-he will TRY to protect the US but make the rest of the world our enemies and will bankrupt the US in the process.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:33pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

HABOOB!!!

[Embedded content]

That was close; I first read it as “Hi, Bob!” which meant that someone would have to drink a pitcher of beer.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:13pm

re: #374 Pawn of the Oppressor

Women? Love ‘em. They do great laundry? And the blow jobs! You can only imagine!

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:16pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

HABOOB!!!

[Embedded content]

The Saracens are coming! The Saracens are coming!

*ducks*

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:52:40pm

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Do you genuinely see nothing wrong with those signs? Think they’re funny? Think women are just overreacting and being overly politically correct?

Actually yes, I do find it funny in a sad sort of way, because it’s obviously them trolling the new arrivals. They are doing so by both mocking their own reputation for being dens of sin as well as mocking the insecurities of the parents about the idea that their children (and wives) might have consensual sex while at college.

They are doing it for a reaction, and people are giving them the exact reaction they were looking for. I find that amusing, just like when I see the MRA and MGTOWs flip their shit over “Kill All Men” or “I Drink Male Tears” or the Teahadists flip their shit whenever anyone says “Background Checks.”

Also note that at no point is a lack of consent implied in any such way from those sheets, any such takeaway is thus the bias of the viewer.

It certainly doesn’t prove the existence of a “Rape Culture.” In fact, the overreaction and derision they got for this proves the opposite — that we, as a culture, abhor rape, to the point that we consider dehumanizing young college men because they might be potential rapists acceptable. See also: “Listen and Believe” and the constant removal of due process from college campuses for young men accused of sexual impropriety.

Or, to share my own little offensive image:
Image: bQKo4jM.jpg

In one paragraph or less, please explain the following:
1. How was Jake able to consent?
2. How is Josie not a rapist?

re: #350 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the one with the hair that looks like the centerfold from Orangutan Monthly

To be fair, that doesn’t narrow it down. Ook ook.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:57:45pm

Late to the thread, but it’s obvious that Trump wasn’t ready for inquisitive questions from someone who spoke Spanish.

RBS

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:44pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

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I think the John Rocker/Curt Schilling comparisons are quite apt.
(Both gigantic assholes.)

In the inimitable words of Dan and Casey from “Sports Night”:

DAN: John Rocker’s a doofus.
CASEY: John Rocker’s a big honkin’ doofus

But, as we all know, Rocker is somewhat of an authority on the Holocaust.///
In 2013, he wrote at worldnetdaily.com ( What a great pairing, Doofus John Rocker and WND—it’s like peanut butter and jelly) about what he described as “…the undeniable fact that the Holocaust would never have taken place had the Jewish citizenry of Hitler’s Germany had the right to bear arms and defend themselves with those arms”

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:58pm

To debate Trump I wonder if looking at all his dealings and asking him if he will run the country the way he ran his businesses would be a road to go down. Start bringing up how he has built his whole career on other people’s money, cutting corners, government manipulation, etc.

Make the point that part of what has not made America Great lately are too many people like Trump doing business that way. Make a point about how guys like Trump take from the government in ways bigger than social program recipients, and pay little tax. How can we make the debt less like he says he will do if he won’t do what needs to be done about guys like him.

Can he be forced into admitting he needs to change to be president, he needs to get over himself?

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:00:51pm

re: #317 teleskiguy

Wouldn’t expect much from KiTA. It’s a gamergater.

I worked with him. He does have his lucid moments. Can’t comment about his gamergate shit as I am not a gamer. But at least give him a chance in real world politics. If he fucks it up, so be it. M. keep your shit together. Because this is the first and last time I’m going to stand up for you. Don’t embarrass me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:57pm

re: #404 BeachDem

I think the John Rocker/Curt Schilling comparisons are quite apt.
(Both gigantic assholes.)

In the inimitable words of Dan and Casey from “Sports Night”:

DAN: John Rocker’s a doofus.
CASEY: John Rocker’s a big honkin’ doofus

But, as we all know, Rocker is somewhat of an authority on the Holocaust.///
In 2013, he wrote at worldnetdaily.com ( What a great pairing, Doofus John Rocker and WND—it’s like peanut butter and jelly) about what he described as “…the undeniable fact that the Holocaust would never have taken place had the Jewish citizenry of Hitler’s Germany had the right to bear arms and defend themselves with those arms”

That he actually said that shows how little he understands the Holocaust. Only a small percentage of the overall Holocaust victims were Germans. The vast majority came from Eastern Europe. If those nation’s militaries couldn’t defeat the Nazis, how were a bunch of civilians who sadly did experience a lot of hate from their non-Jewish neighbors too going to survive that. The Holocaust happened because of militarism and that centuries’ old prejudice of Antisemitism.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:09:26pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

I have to remember those names in order to not vote for them.

Just make sure it’s not some sleazy dirty tricksters doing it. It’s SO blatant that it’s hard to believe it’s not.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:14:30pm

re: #406 Bubblehead II

I worked with him. He does have his lucid moments. Can’t comment about his gamergate shit as I am not a gamer. But at least give him a chance in real world politics. If he fucks it up, so be it. M. keep your shit together. Because this is the first and last time I’m going to stand up for you. Don’t embarrass me.

NEVER FUCKING MIND! You just had to go and do it, didn’t you? Well that was a stupid question. For some reason you just have to stir the shit pot and cause discordance were ever you go. Why? It just cost you a job and it’s costing you here. Will you ever learn?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:15pm

re: #402 KiTA

For the answer to your “gotcha,” as much as I am willing to humor you:

It’s a shitty poster. It leaves a lot of questions unanswered. However, if a crime did occur, being drunk when committing the crime does not absolve one of it.

For the rest, I have to say that I really appreciate a man telling me that the experiences I and many other women have lead us to read too much into what was just a simple sign attempting to troll women. Thanks. I see the light now - my bias is magically gone. All help the poor oppressed college male!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:47pm

re: #409 Bubblehead II

{{Bubblehead}}

thank you.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:21:13pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

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What did the bloviator have to say that even warranted a “press conference?” The fucking press reports every idiotic word that comes out his mouth 24/7 anyway, so was there a particular point to this little event? Sorry (not sorry)—I can’t stand watching him.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:22:26pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Cue the cries of “PC”, but I am with you. This is great. There are plenty of tough women out there who would make great SEALs- better than I ever would be. They shouldn’t be denied that chance simply because they are women. But of course wingnuts are going to complain that this is “feminizing” the Navy SEALs but what it is actually doing is bringing in more people. That’s why I flat out don’t get about their opposition to gays and women having big roles in the military. They want a large and powerful military but yet they only want straight white guys in it. Okay good luck with that.

FTFY, because you know there’s a bunch of racist wingnuts.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:31:23pm

re: #410 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For the answer to your “gotcha,” as much as I am willing to humor you:

It’s a shitty poster. It leaves a lot of questions unanswered. However, if a crime did occur, being drunk when committing the crime does not absolve one of it.

Quite true! But my question was more along the lines of wondering why when in a neutral position as presented (both drunk et all) it’s spelled out as:

Woman victim
Man criminal

When as spelled out, they’re both guilty. Or not guilty, as the case may be.

But yeah, a shitty poster.

re: #410 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For the rest, I have to say that I really appreciate a man telling me that the experiences I and many other women have lead us to read too much into what was just a simple sign attempting to troll women. Thanks. I see the light now - my bias is magically gone. All help the poor oppressed college male!

That’s beyond what I intended to state, but I can see where you got that impression.

I just don’t know if dredging up a social justice mob on these guys is going to do much other than polarize both sides. The frat in question isn’t going to go “oh wow, maybe that was too far, damn.” They’re going to retreat into their own safe spaces and get defensive as all getout.

Change does have to occur, and it is occurring. But demonizing people with terms like “rape culture” or “femininazi” does nothing to help that change happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:57pm
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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:00pm

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Biden.

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fern01  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:27pm

re: #273 Kragar

Waiting for my wife to get home so I can ask here when she plans to cook the pork roast we bought Sunday.

The fun part will be when she realizes she left it in the trunk for 2 days.

WE bought it but SHE left it in the trunk?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:46pm

re: #409 Bubblehead II

I’m done with KiTA. He’s a hopeless misogynist as far as I’m concerned. Sure, he’s had his lucid moments and even has positive karma around the joint. But his comments tonight reveal an asshole who hates women. I don’t deal with assholes who hate women.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:42:53pm

re: #414 KiTA

Change does have to occur, and it is occurring. But demonizing people with terms like “rape culture” or “femininazi” does nothing to help that change happen.

I’m pretty sure pretending that rape culture is a myth also does nothing to help change happen, and making it equivalent to “femininazi” is a nice way to tell feminists (since the term originates from and is discussed in academia) to sit down and shut up because what they’re talking about is making other people uncomfortable.

We can disagree on the definition used - and people do - but if you think that there is nothing in our culture that treats rape as “acceptable” or “boys will be boys” or minimizes it, you haven’t paid attention.

I’m trying hard to be reasonable here, but I don’t necessarily care a lot about the frat boys’ feelings. Saying that this was too harsh is simply tone policing. Was it too harsh when the university came down on the frat that had the racist chants? Or should we have been nicer then so they might have learned to change too?

420
Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:46:42pm

re: #418 teleskiguy

See my #409. I’m washing my hands as well. He’s another KT in a different cloth.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:48:58pm

re: #420 Bubblehead II

I was replying to your #409! Whatever. This site moves fast.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:57:16pm

re: #421 teleskiguy

I was replying to your #409! Whatever. This site moves fast.

Yeah it does. Kita, you are dead to me. Stinky, flush him if you want. He has no redeeming qualities to bring to this board.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:23pm

re: #419 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m pretty sure pretending that rape culture is a myth also does nothing to help change happen, and making it equivalent to “femininazi” is a nice way to tell feminists (since the term originates from and is discussed in academia) to sit down and shut up because what they’re talking about is making other people uncomfortable.

I want to read the Dr. Smith’s book (“Encyclopedia of Rape”) where she defines Rape Culture, but lord, it’s expensive. My other leads to educate myself are The Sexualization of Childhood (Childhood in America) or Violence Goes to College: The Authoritative Guide to Prevention and Intervention by Dr. Bollinger et all, the first of which is equally expensive and the latter is not available on Kindle.

These three are listed in Wikipedia as the book that originally defined the term in the 70s, and the two primary sources for the Wikipedia definition, so they’re my first line of trying to educate myself about what the heck people are trying to talk about in this reguard; I’d read the full Wikipedia article but Wikipedia’s veracity has been in question for a while now.

So, olive branch: Do you have a better source so I can read up on this? Obviously I’m misinformed about the colloquial definition, so I’m willing to read up on this with an open mind.

We can disagree on the definition used - and people do - but if you think that there is nothing in our culture that treats rape as “acceptable” or “boys will be boys” or minimizes it, you haven’t paid attention.

I did not say that. Nor would I ever say that. I don’t even understand how we got from point A to B in this regard.

Was it too harsh when the university came down on the frat that had the racist chants? Or should we have been nicer then so they might have learned to change too?

No, of course not, they deserved every thing they got.

There’s clearly a line. I would even say the frat with the banners crossed it, and I wouldn’t cry a moment if they got thrown out or …disbanded (is that the right term?) for it. But unless we’re using “rape culture” as a synonym for “misogyny” I don’t get how that’s an example of such, as it doesn’t scream “rape” to me, it screams “boorish frat boy.”

Apparently I’m wrong. So again, with my hat in hand, I’ll ask for help understanding just why I’m wrong: Got any reading material for me?

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:21:13pm

re: #422 Bubblehead II

Yeah it does. Kita, you are dead to me. Stinky, flush him if you want. He has no redeeming qualities to bring to this board.

You have my phone number - it’s in your Twitter DMs. If I genuinely have gone off the rails, please feel free to call me, any time, night or day, and scream at me until I understand. Because I do genuinely trust your opinion more than anyone’s, even my own, and if there’s anyone who can tell me off and make me understand it, it’s probably you.

425
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:04pm

re: #423 KiTA

I want to read the Dr. Smith’s book (“Encyclopedia of Rape”) where she defines Rape Culture, but lord, it’s expensive. My other leads to educate myself are The Sexualization of Childhood (Childhood in America) or Violence Goes to College: The Authoritative Guide to Prevention and Intervention by Dr. Bollinger et all, the first of which is equally expensive and the latter is not available on Kindle.

These three are listed in Wikipedia as the book that originally defined the term in the 70s, and the two primary sources for the Wikipedia definition, so they’re my first line of trying to educate myself about what the heck people are trying to talk about in this reguard; I’d read the full Wikipedia article but Wikipedia’s veracity has been in question for a while now.

So, olive branch: Do you have a better source so I can read up on this? Obviously I’m misinformed about the colloquial definition, so I’m willing to read up on this with an open mind.

I don’t read a ton of feminist academic theory, so I can’t speak strongly to the background there. I do find the Wikipedia article to be relatively evenhanded, discussing both use of the term (and a number of the definitions I see frequently) and various criticisms, although checking secondary sources is always a wise idea.

A nontrivial portion of my online interaction is with women, for whom the colloquial definition tends to be based on examples gleaned from the news, where it reinforces attitudes experienced in every day life. Things like where the news anchors worry about how the lives of two teenage rapists were ruined while not mentioning the victim at all. Where rape isn’t a serious enough crime to warrant testing the kits in a timely manner. Sure, there’s pushback in our culture at this point when things like this happen - but it was the norm for a long time. It had to be, for the attitudes to become ingrained enough that people thought these things were fine until someone else started saying something. That’s the sort of thing that many, many women online are referring to when talking about rape culture. It’s tied in with the same attitudes that led to a lot of victim blaming and slut shaming in the past, that still contribute to an unwillingness to report rape today.

I did not say that. Nor would I ever say that. I don’t even understand how we got from point A to B in this regard.

I hope that, working with the definition I gave above, you can understand how saying that “rape culture is a myth” might be interpreted as denying that our culture has some issues still to be worked out on this subject. I’d be curious to know what definition you were working from. I will say that the one I often hear in association with Gamergate is the equivalent, in my experience, of accepting the Tea Party charicature of the Democrat party platform as absolute gospel.

No, of course not, they deserved every thing they got.

There’s clearly a line. I would even say the frat with the banners crossed it, and I wouldn’t cry a moment if they got thrown out or …disbanded (is that the right term?) for it. But unless we’re using “rape culture” as a synonym for “misogyny” I don’t get how that’s an example of such, as it doesn’t scream “rape” to me, it screams “boorish frat boy.”

Apparently I’m wrong. So again, with my hat in hand, I’ll ask for help understanding just why I’m wrong: Got any reading material for me?

Frat houses in particular have a problematic history regarding respecting women’s rights to say no. It’s nearly impossible to evaluate the signs without taking that history into account. Apparently you can, and so I’m not sure what to say, but at least for me (and I might hazard for a decent number of women), it is a footnote in the back of the mind that is always there to be aware of. In the same category as making sure I always know where my drink is and never let it out of my sight.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:59:50pm

re: #424 KiTA

I will be in contact. I owe you at least that much

427
KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:05:00pm

re: #426 Bubblehead II

If I’m in the wrong, please help me understand. Because this seriously blew up in my face a lot bigger than I expected.

Klys: Typing up a long reply, wanted to make sure BH2 saw that first.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:13:21pm

re: #427 KiTA

Fair enough. I will read, but I cannot promise a reply tonight.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:24:00pm

re: #427 KiTA

Why? Why should I try? I put my ass on the line not only at work but here. I’ve kept telling you don’t stir the pot, but no,you just had to do it. Thanks for nothing,

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:36:58pm

To make it clear Lizards , Kita brought his personnel politics into the workplace. I warned him about doing this, but he ignored me. He paid the price.

Now he is getting beaten up here because he can’t support his position. Have fun. As I stated above, I no longer will support him.

431
KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:38:10pm

re: #430 Bubblehead II

To make it clear Lizards , Kita brought his personnel politics into the workplace. I warned him about doing this, but he ignored me. He paid the price.

Now he is getting beaten up here because he can’t support his position. Have fun. As I stated above, I no longer will support him.

I thought you were going to call me?

But no, that’s not why I was fired.

432
Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:47:28pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

Embedded Image

“Wait ‘till I tell my dad about this you side dish.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:47:43pm

re: #429 Bubblehead II

Why? Why should I try? I put my ass on the line not only at work but here. I’ve kept telling you don’t sir the pot, but no,you just had to do it. Thanks for nothing,

I don’t know if you’re still up, but I would encourage you not to write your friend off yet.

Have the conversation, give it some time, see where you both stand after that. I do understand that sometimes you have to draw a line, and maybe that is where you stand afterwards, but at least give it a little space before you get there.

My two cents, anyway, for what it is worth. It could be tonight was a wake-up call.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:52:12pm

re: #433 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you.

I’m trying to finish this reply to the below but it’s so long (4488 characters and counting) that it almost belongs in it’s own page, and I don’t even know if replying would jsut be stirring the pot or if I should just go find a nice crack to hide in.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:58:11pm

re: #431 KiTA

I thought you were going to call me?

But no, that’s not why I was fired.

Thursday 0830 run @ Freddies. Meet me there

and yes it was.

I counseled you to keep you mouth shut on politics. But you ignored me. This in turn diluted anything else you may have said. I’ve haven’t survived down there for 22 years without learning this lesson. I tried and I failed. Well you can’t drive a wood plug into a stone wall no matter how hard you try
.

436
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:59:48pm

re: #434 KiTA

Here’s my recommendation: if you’re unsure, sit on it. Save it in a draft somewhere, and come back to it tomorrow or two days from now or whatever and see where it’s at. And in the meantime, read and listen. Think.

A lot of the pushback you got tonight stems in part from the comment you made coupled with the history you have of supporting groups (in the comments here) that have minimized a lot of these same issues. You may not feel like that characterization fits, either the group or what you believe, but that is the context through which most people interpreted what you were saying.

Since you do genuinely seem to be trying to figure it out, also consider that sometimes the hardest truths to confront are the ones that challenge the identity that we have built for ourselves. You might be wrestling with something like that now. Consider what you said above about how people react when challenged. Try to look at your own thoughts/behavior through that lens: could that be happening here?

I don’t hate you, for what that’s worth, and since you are trying I’m not going to downding here.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:04:05pm

re: #435 Bubblehead II

I will try to make it at @08:30, but there’s a Buddhist meeting at CSI on Wednesday @1900 and that might be hard to juggle.

Feel free to call if you would like, though, I really would like to speak in an environment I can be told to go to hell if needed, Freddies might not be conductive to that.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:13:16pm

Lizards. It’s time for me to go to bed. Kita, quit trying to stir up shit just because you can. As I pointed out, it already has costed you a job.

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Saint Stephen  Aug 26, 2015 • 9:01:07am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

He didn’t say Muslims, he said extremist Muslims.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 26, 2015 • 9:17:58am

re: #439 Saint Stephen

He didn’t say Muslims, he said extremist Muslims.

Umm, the implication was definitely that regular Muslims would go along with the extremists, just like the rest of Germany went along with the Nazis.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 26, 2015 • 9:28:32am

re: #440 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you. I thought the analogy was obvious—apparently it’s not.


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