The Trump Campaign in a Nutshell: Kicks Out Mexican-American Reporter, Says “Go Back to Univision”

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This was an absolutely horrifying glimpse of what it would mean if by some chance this caveman is elected president, as Donald Trump had his burly bodyguards eject one of the most popular anchors for Hispanic television network Univision, Jorge Ramos, saying scornfully to him, “Go back to Univision.”

Wow. Just wow. Then Trump described the incident this way: “He stood up and started screaming. He’s obviously a very emotional person.”

Watch the video and see for yourself; Ramos was absolutely not “screaming” or “emotional.”

Social media erupted in outrage, and clearly someone in Trump’s campaign noticed how bad this looked — because they let Ramos back into the press conference and Trump proceeded to argue with him for several minutes.

The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker has an account of that argument:

The next question from Ramos: How do you build a 1,900-mile wall across the U.S. border with Mexico?

“It’s very easy,” Trump said. “I’m a builder…. What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall.”

The questioning continued. At one point, Trump said, “I can’t deal with this.” A Trump aide interrupted and told Ramos, “Is there one question — one question?”

Yet Trump let the questioning continue, seemingly determined to prove his case. “I have a bigger heart than you do,” he told Ramos. “We’re going to do [deportations] in a very humane fashion.”

Trump went on to assert that gang members in Baltimore, St. Louis and other cities are illegal immigrants.

“Listen, we have tremendous crime,” he told Ramos. “We have some very bad ones… Do you mind if I send them back to Mexico?”

Ramos replied, “No human being is illegal, Mr. Trump.”

The response: “Well, when they cross the border, from a legal standpoint, they’re illegal immigrants when they don’t have their papers.”

When Ramos pressed Trump on polls showing his unpopularity with Latinos, Trump would not accept the premise of the question. First, he interrupted Ramos and turned the question on him: “How much am I suing Univision for right now? Do you know the number? I know you’re part of the lawsuit.”

“I’m a reporter,” Ramos said.

“Five hundred million dollars,” Trump replied. “And they’re very concerned about it, by the way. I’m very good at this.”

It’s just unreal to see someone like this holding the right wing base spellbound. The first comment for the YouTube video above:

I don’t support any political candidate(STOP VOTING PEOPLE), but I have to say this is awesome. Trump says he will kick illegals out, and he starts in his press conferences! Good stuff :-)

And this comment is being echoed all across the right wing blogs and media sites tonight. They absolutely loved this awful demonstration of blatant bigotry.

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420 comments
1
HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:47:28pm

A dickhead candidate for a party of dickheads. Go ahead and nominate him GOP and I promise you that the Hispanic vote and thus the White House will never be yours ever.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:47:32pm
Ramos: How do you build a 1,900-mile wall across the U.S. border with Mexico?

“It’s very easy,” Trump said. “I’m a builder…. What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall.”

Blustering dumbass has no idea.

3
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:47:33pm

Donald Trump is what Chuck C. Johnson would be if Chuck C. Johnson had 8 billion dollars.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:16pm

I’m reposting this comment from downstairs-

If Trump didn’t know who Jorge Ramos was, why did he tell him to “Go back to UniVision?”

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:48:40pm
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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:08pm

and this should be a promotional video excerpt for every voter drive in the American West…..

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:09pm

And not a single Republican candidate will dare speak out against this. They’ll either avoid the issue or they’ll continue to suck The Donald’s toes in the hopes that, if he should implode, they’ll be positioned to take his place as King Asshole of the GOP.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:49:27pm

re: #4 Kid A

I’m reposting this comment from downstairs-

If Trump didn’t know who Jorge Ramos was, why did he tell him to “Go back to UniVision?”

Because he’s a racist?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:12pm

Trump knows exactly who criticizes him.

Ramos recently described Trump as “the loudest voice of intolerance, division, and hatred right now in America” and said today that Trump declaring he’s going to kick out 11 million immigrants is just a ridiculous empty promise.
mediaite.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:22pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

Because he’s a racist?

That’s the only answer that fits.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:26pm

He summons his body guard with his lips, does that fuckin’ duckface thing.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:50:27pm

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:13pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

Especially all those who were concerned when President Obama responded with actual facts to leading questions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:33pm
“How much am I suing Univision for right now? Do you know the number? I know you’re part of the lawsuit.”

“I’m a reporter,” Ramos said.

“Five hundred million dollars,” Trump replied. “And they’re very concerned about it, by the way. I’m very good at this.”

The UpChuck version of political campaigning…

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:33pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

These fuckers squeal like stuck pigs if kept behind a rope by the Clinton campaign. But Trump’s hired goons haul off one of their own…and they couldn’t give less of a shit if they tried.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:41pm

Imagine being a minority in this country. You hear this stuff from Trump and the other Republicans, and you’re both scared and disgusted.

Now, realize that while you need to vote (I sure hope Latinos in Texas are realizing they need to vote), but that you are counting on whites who keep saying they need a reason to get out and vote.

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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:51pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

they are more interested in access than in doing their “jobs”. It’s sad when the 4th estate sold their ethics to the highest bidder and they wonder why no one takes them very seriously as a whole these days….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:52:31pm

re: #9 jaunte

Trump knows exactly who criticizes him.

Gotta give Ramos loads of credit. He’s one of the few reporters that has called this out for the ridiculous crap it is. A lot of the others in the media are just praising Trump for his “straight talk.” Do these idiots who think deporting 11 million people won’t have any effect on us at all? They just hate illegals because illegals broke the law blah blah. Okay some of them did, I concede but let’s also concede another point that people aren’t always sent to jail for breaking the law and furthermore a lot of these people are for cases and purposes Americans.

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b.d.  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:52:33pm

re: #4 Kid A

I’m reposting this comment from downstairs-

If Trump didn’t know who Jorge Ramos was, why did he tell him to “Go back to UniVision?”

Trump thinks that any Latin that wears a suit works for Univision?

//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:53:37pm

re: #16 Belafon

Imagine being a minority in this country. You hear this stuff from Trump and the other Republicans, and you’re both scared and disgusted.

Now, realize that while you need to vote (I sure hope Latinos in Texas are realizing they need to vote), but that you are counting on whites who keep saying they need a reason to get out and vote.

That’s why I am going to vote and will not spout that Hillary is the same as ” “. It’s downright insulting to the people who can and will have their lives turned upside down by shitty Republican policies.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:53:45pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

They just hate illegals because illegals broke the law blah blah.

Start believing that when they start prosecuting companies for employing them under the table.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:53:50pm

Trump says he will kick illegals out, and he starts in his press conferences

does trump have any idea that whenever he says “illegals” his supporters hear “hispanics”?

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:53:58pm

Worth noting: Univision is a US company and Jorge Ramos is a US citizen:

“To me it was a palace….the United States gave me opportunities that my country of origin [Mexico] could not: freedom of the press and complete freedom of expression.”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:54:33pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

This. Most of the reporters covering the WH seem to have had their consciences surgically removed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:00pm

jeebus, someone downstairs just keeps digging his hole deeper…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:08pm

re: #21 jaunte

Start believing that when they start prosecuting companies for employing them under the table.

Yeah you’re right. That’s what they claim but let’s get to the real reason. They hate these people because they’re not white, they have a different culture, and unlike the right wing evangelicals that dominate conservatism, they have real family values.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:08pm

It’s like I said downstairs, imagine if the President pulled something like this during a presser? He just had decided he wasn’t going to deal with a reporter, so instead of giving them a snarky remark or just ignoring them, he ordered the Secret Service to haul that reporter out of the room? Before the day was done, the press would be all but screaming “HITLER!”

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:23pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

Worth noting: Univision is a US company and Jorge Ramos is a US citizen:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. WE GAVE RAMOS HIS CITIZENSHIP!!!!
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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:36pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

It’s like I said downstairs, imagine if the President pulled something like this during a presser? He just had decided he wasn’t going to deal with a reporter, so instead of giving them a snarky remark or just ignoring them, he ordered the Secret Service to haul that reporter out of the room? Before the day was done, the press would be all but screaming “HITLER!”

Didn’t they do that to the Infowars nutjobs on a few occasions?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:59pm

re: #6 piratedan

and this should be a promotional video excerpt for every voter drive in the American West…..

There is no GOP path to the White House that does not include Florida.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:01pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

Worth noting: Univision is a US company and Jorge Ramos is a US citizen:

Indeed, this is a man that is part of what makes America great. Keep it up Senor Ramos, you are fighting the good fight and actually being a journalist.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:06pm

re: #29 KiTA

Oh, you again.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:35pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

There is no GOP to the White House that does not include Florida.

And no Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:52pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

He summons his body guard with his lips, does that fuckin’ duckface thing.

Donald Duckface
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:56pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

It’s like I said downstairs, imagine if the President pulled something like this during a presser? He just had decided he wasn’t going to deal with a reporter, so instead of giving them a snarky remark or just ignoring them, he ordered the Secret Service to haul that reporter out of the room? Before the day was done, the press would be all but screaming “HITLER!”

Jim Hoft would have a story on ti for sure but here we have a Republican candidate actually bullying a reporter and what do we get here, oh cheers because the reporter’s a Hispanic man who has been critical of Trump’s xenophobic bullshit.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:57:54pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Indeed, this is a man that is part of what makes America great. Keep it up Senor Ramos, you are fighting the good fight and actually being a journalist.

And has an audience of around a billion.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:00pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:01pm

re: #33 Kid A

And no Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio.

Trump telling autoworkers they make too much money should go over great in that part of Ohio.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:27pm

re: #32 Kid A

Oh, you again.

Make sure you don’t miss the reflections of the same fuckwit here. I would hate for this person to miss out on the downdings they so richly deserve due to a new thread coming up.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:32pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

re: #33 Kid A

Look at all those friendly Indians.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:43pm

re: #37 jaunte

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Wouldn’t that require you know actually having a sense of humor about one’s self?

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:19pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Jim Hoft would have a story on ti for sure but here we have a Republican candidate actually bullying a reporter and what do we get here, oh cheers because the reporter’s a Hispanic man who has been critical of Trump’s xenophobic bullshit.

Is it time to start the betting pool on when Trump campaign volunteers and activists will feel a need for a way to openly show their affiliation in public (e.g., brown shirts etc.)?

My guess would be Nov or Dec of this year.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:22pm

re: #29 KiTA

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:51pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Yes, not really a business genius, just a rich and boorish bully.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:00:05pm

Wow. Just started reading comments at Breitbart.

Jorge got deported! Ok I am sure I was beaten to the joke. Apologies

[…]

I consider mestizos like Ramos guilty of train when they agitate foe more of their co-ethnics to come here and use up resources that are already earmarked for white Americans.

[…]

W E T B A C K …. Go Back….

[…]

KICK
MUSLIMS
OUT
TOO

[…]

We had the onion fields , maybe it is time for the Bean fields ——— wut?

[…]

He got off easy in my opinion. Too easy. “stop resisting!”

[…]

Trump should deport Jorge back to Mexico. He’s(Jorge) a real threat to the Americans born here in this country- he’s all for the Illegals entering here and giving them everything. God Bless Us all as Americans and The United States of America. VOTE Mr. Donald Trump for President!!!

[…]

Now thats how you handle an undocumented journalist!

[…]

Easy way to deport 11 million illegals… 11 million Americans will pick one up and drive each one to the border!

[…]

Hey Jorge, exercise your dual citizenship, go back home to Mexico, stay there, then renounce your citizenship of the country you find so offensive! See how that works for you butt head!

[…]

As hard as the Commie libturds try they can’t take down Trump the Great.

[…]

Most dogs are better behaved. At least they sit when you tell them to. Next time Trump should just call Animal Control.

[…]

how about a hose, with cold water, squirt him

HILARIOUS

[…]

America rising! The sleeping giant is awake! Law & order! There’s a new sheriff in town!

[…]

Uggh, Jorge reminds me of my little Dachshund yap yap yap yap until you tell him , NO and lock him in garage.

[…]

Did he even ask a question or just spout off in his crazy moon language?

[…]

The day after Trump wins the election millions of illegal wets will start self-deporting.

[…]

That’s how you do it, one obnoxious Mexican at a time.
Anymore questions?

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:00:07pm

re: #32 Kid A

Oh, you again.

I’m quite serious, I distinctly remember laughing my ass off when Infowars (?) got a reporter in and started asking conspiracy nutjob questions and was thrown out. There was no great outrage back then, either. Am I the only one who remembers that?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:00:32pm

re: #29 KiTA

Didn’t they do that to the Infowars nutjobs on a few occasions?

Google shows that at some Bilderberg confab, not WH.

google.com

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:00:37pm

Those are just from the first page of more than a thousand comments.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:01:09pm

re: #29 KiTA

Didn’t they do that to the Infowars nutjobs on a few occasions?

What the fuck.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:01:18pm

A link from the previous thread has led me to this insanity:

How you spell “The Berenstain Bears” could be proof of parallel universes

The Berenst(E)ain Bears Conspiracy Theory That Has Convinced the Internet There Are Parallel Universes

Imagine that, there are still people who haven’t heard about false memories. /

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:01:28pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I see crappy people.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:01:53pm

re: #29 KiTA

What the fucking fuck? You’re a troll. Go shit on someone else’s blog you fucking cretin.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:09pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

It is absolutely clear that these commenters are looking for a Hitler-type to vote for. They are thugs, and want thugs to run the US.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:21pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Google shows that at some Bilderberg confab, not WH.

google.com

Yeah, that’s the one I found too in a touch of researching, but I seem to remember it was one of the white house press aids that was being asked questions?

Lord, am I just mis-remembering this? IIRC it was some accusations that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:34pm

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:50pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Those are just from the first page of more than a thousand comments.

Jeez, Charles, you jumped ship at the wrong time. All of those clicks could have been yours and you’d now be wealthy beyond your dreams of avarice.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:03:01pm

re: #46 KiTA

Your rape culture comment from downstairs wasn’t appreciated here, then you just pop back up like nothing happened. So do us all a favor and get the fuck out.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:04:21pm

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:04:26pm

re: #50 Nyet

A link from the previous thread has led me to this insanity:

How you spell “The Berenstain Bears” could be proof of parallel universes

The Berenst(E)ain Bears Conspiracy Theory That Has Convinced the Internet There Are Parallel Universes

Imagine that, there are still people who haven’t heard about false memories. /

It’s obviously a glitch in the matrix.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:04:28pm

re: #50 Nyet

I suppose in a parallel universe the 2nd amd. tells you to arm bears…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:05:19pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Google shows that at some Bilderberg confab, not WH.

google.com

The nebulous and easily forgotten “they” but it had to do with the President, apparently, but KiTa can’t remember the important details…

good lord…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:05:22pm

re: #59 Belafon

It’s obviously a glitch in the matrix.

Oh, wow, man. Deja vu.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:05:50pm

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:06:13pm

re: #62 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, wow, man. Deja vu.

All over again.

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Dexter's New Approach  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:07:28pm

The Trump speech was something,. The guy really is good at this, especially compared to the current GOP field. I think his work in the reality TV arena (including WWE) really helps him. Fox has the hardcore base, but many more, less engaged, republicans watch reality TV nightly. And he’s giving them what they need.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:07:30pm

re: #62 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, wow, man. Deja vu.

Vuja De

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:07:37pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mostly I see “Rand Paul Campaigns in Seattle” and “Drone Prison” which seems apt.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:07:50pm

Trump just didn’t expect inquisitive questions from a reporter who spoke Spanish

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:08:08pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping hand, open palmed on a human face - forever.”

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:08:15pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just started reading comments at Breitbart.

May have to write this up as a semi-dystopian novel: At age 18, an American kid is paired up with a Mexican kid 300 miles below the US border. The first one that makes it across is given citizenship. The other one stays in Mexico (yeah, sucks to be Mexico).

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:09:15pm

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:09:17pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Ah, the master. I still miss him.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:10:04pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just started reading comments at Breitbart.

This is becoming seriously dangerous. Trump is potentially a real, live fascist dictator. The military and federal law enforcement would simply tell President Trump to fuck off if he started giving patently illegal orders, but he doesn’t need them. He is the kind of Hitleresque figure who can beat the diffuse millions of crazed ammosexuals into something resembling a party militia, that is, Brownshirts.

Godwin’s law has been repealed.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:10:05pm

re: #54 KiTA

Yeah, that’s the one I found too in a touch of researching, but I seem to remember it was one of the white house press aids that was being asked questions?

Lord, am I just mis-remembering this? IIRC it was some accusations that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation?

Not finding it, even in Infowars caches. One was kicked out of a Champaign police presser. If it had happened, Infowars is not likely to have overlooked it.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:10:20pm

Clear as a bell, Trump is a fascist in craven capitalist clothes. Despicable to the marrow.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:10:30pm

re: #56 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Jeez, Charles, you jumped ship at the wrong time. All of those clicks could have been yours and you’d now be wealthy beyond your dreams of avarice.

And all I would have had to give up was any sense of personal integrity.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:11:01pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

This is becoming seriously dangerous. Trump is potentially a real, live fascist dictator. The military and federal law enforcement would simply tell President Trump to fuck off if he started giving patently illegal orders, but he doesn’t need them. He is the kind of Hitleresque figure who can beat the diffuse millions of crazed ammosexuals into something resembling a party militia, that is, Brownshirts.

Godwin’s law has been repealed.

Beat me by 16 seconds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:11:23pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

And all I would have had to give up was any sense of personal integrity.

And throw out every mirror and reflecting surface in your house…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:11:27pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

They all should have walked out. But their corporate masters would have thrown a shitfit.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:12:36pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

This is becoming seriously dangerous. Trump is potentially a real, live fascist dictator. The military and federal law enforcement would simply tell President Trump to fuck off if he started giving patently illegal orders, but he doesn’t need them. He is the kind of Hitleresque figure who can beat the diffuse millions of crazed ammosexuals into something resembling a party militia, that is, Brownshirts.

Godwin’s law has been repealed.

New rule: anybody mentioning Godwin’s law to stop a discussion automatically loses the debate.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:13:05pm

re: #80 Nyet

New rule: anybody mentioning Godwin’s law to stop a discussion automatically loses the debate.

I actually thought that was a corollary to Godwin’s Law already.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:13:39pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

re: #75 Great White Snark

But, you know, we’re just as bad as Trump for daring to suggest any similarity to Fascism, or worse, Nazism.

Or so I hear, on Facebook.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:14:17pm

re: #81 thedopefishlives

I actually thought that was a corollary to Godwin’s Law already.

It was in the reverse: anybody mentioning Hitler loses the debate.

I’m saying that anybody trying to use the rule above loses the debate instead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:14:17pm

Hey VB! Look at what just showed up in my twitter notifications:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:14:19pm

re: #72 Kid A

Ah, the master. I still miss him.

I miss him so. He really had an influence in how I look at things. I knew him as Mr. Conductor as a child, Rufus from Bill & Ted later on, the priest in Dogma when I was a teenager. Never really listened to his stand up until I got to college. A guy down the hall in my dorm had a gaggle of George Carlin stand up and dude was generous, let me borrow/copy most of it. There were some weekends my freshman year in college that I would just smoke some grass and listen to George Carlin stand up for hours on end.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:15:32pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

The nebulous and easily forgotten “they” but it had to do with the President, apparently, but KiTa can’t remember the important details…

good lord…

Do you really think it would matter to the RWNJs if it was Obama himself that threw the person out, or if it was an official white house press meeting without Obama there?

Are we really playing semantics games to that point?

Anyway… Why is it so hard to find archives of stupid shit RWNJs do? Trying to google “infowars ejected press conference” is pulling up some really vile websites I’d rather not open.

I swear, we really need to make a deepfreeze.it but for mainstream media, so we can just say, click on say, Billo’s name or Alex Jones’ name and get a list of all the stupid, illegal and unethical crap they’ve said over the years, with source links et all.

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I’m having trouble finding it too. I distinctly remember it, but it must have been something with less gravitas (and security, come to think of it logically) than an official White House press event.

I did find some discussion of a a conspiracy nut disrupting an Super Bowl press event… maybe that’s what I was thinking of?

sbnation.com

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:57pm

If he gets the nomination I can’t see Trump conceding the general election gracefully. Instead I see him making baseless sweeping allegations of vote fraud. Hell, his anti immigrant rhetoric sets him up perfectly for this kind of play. He’s a straight up sociopath, and would rather see America burn rather than acknowledge defeat.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:17:03pm

re: #86 KiTA

Why are you still here you fucking ****?

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:17:46pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:17:50pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

It’s like I said downstairs, imagine if the President pulled something like this during a presser? He just had decided he wasn’t going to deal with a reporter, so instead of giving them a snarky remark or just ignoring them, he ordered the Secret Service to haul that reporter out of the room? Before the day was done, the press would be all but screaming “HITLER!”

Rachel just replayed that whole Trump Ramos exchange. Then they played Kasie Hunt asking Trump if he properly handled not being able to address a reporter. Trump said he didn’t know what happened and that security took him off. He said he didn’t ask him to be removed.

Earlier, reports identified the guy as Trump’s body guard.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:19:09pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:19:10pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Rachel just replayed that whole Trump Ramos exchange. Then they played Kasie Hunt asking Trump if he properly handled not being able to address a reporter. Trump said he didn’t know what happened and that security took him off. He said he didn’t ask him to be removed.

Earlier, reports identified the guy as Trump’s body guard.

Of course he didn’t ask…he just gave the ducklip signal to security.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:19:19pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

It’s like I said downstairs, imagine if the President pulled something like this during a presser? He just had decided he wasn’t going to deal with a reporter, so instead of giving them a snarky remark or just ignoring them, he ordered the Secret Service to haul that reporter out of the room? Before the day was done, the press would be all but screaming “HITLER!”

Major Garrett.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:19:27pm

re: #89 Nyet

Just proving the rule: there is an XKCD for every situation.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:20:06pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel

This is becoming seriously dangerous. Trump is potentially a real, live fascist dictator. The military and federal law enforcement would simply tell President Trump to fuck off if he started giving patently illegal orders, but he doesn’t need them. He is the kind of Hitleresque figure who can beat the diffuse millions of crazed ammosexuals into something resembling a party militia, that is, Brownshirts.

Godwin’s law has been repealed.

As always, the real problem is the fraction of the GOP base that is following Trump. That’s a large pool of potential brownshirts for Trump or any future demagogue, and it’s difficult to see how the danger posed by this collection of malignant fools can be alleviated.

In a just world, the GOP establishment would be tasked with the thankless job of bringing their base back to sanity, but that will never happen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:20:28pm

Sorry to OT but I got this Tweet and just LOLed

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:20:50pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:21:47pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry to OT but I got this Tweet and just LOLed

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LOL! See my #84

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:21:58pm

In a word? Yes.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:22:05pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:22:40pm

re: #99 bratwurst

That’s gonna leave a mark.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:14pm

re: #99 bratwurst

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In a word? Yes.

It’s true, and it’s scary as hell.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:29pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, we’re just as bad as Trump for daring to suggest any similarity to Fascism, or worse, Nazism.

Or so I hear, on Facebook.

I counter like this. Tiny rant again.

In my lifetime “make America great again” as a presidential campaign has never ever been based on ethnic hatred and class derision like Trump displays. He appeals to the anger, the hate, the resentments in us. Even if you agree, and of course you shouldn’t but still even if… is that what you want in our President? Can we not do better than that? Can we not have a president that is not on sworn deposition record as having raped his wife? As having more success than being a serial corporate bankruptcy?

Someone who speaks to the needs of the nation before he brags about his money and his ratings?

Is That All We Got?

Seriously how low can our expectations go?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:41pm

re: #99 bratwurst

“You mean I’ve assembled a huge mob of ignorant and violent followers, and they’re not LOYAL?”

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:41pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

I just spewed my wine everywhere remembering your tweet from yesterday.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:05pm

re: #97 bratwurst

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:23pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s a condescending dick. Things cost money. Rand, they’re upset that unarmed black people who get killed by cops are trashed by the media and the cops who do the killing aren’t even indicted. It’s not about money you fucking chode faced turd.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:28pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry to OT but I got this Tweet and just LOLed

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ha! And this just showed up for me:

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:36pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! See my #84

It was a 2001 Grand Prix and it DIAF in 2011 so we got the use of it.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:42pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

If he gets the nomination I can’t see Trump conceding the general election gracefully. Instead I see him making baseless sweeping allegations of vote fraud. Hell, his anti immigrant rhetoric sets him up perfectly for this kind of play. He’s a straight up sociopath, and would rather see America burn rather than acknowledge defeat.

This would be the time where we get to see if the US follows the path taken in Weimar Germany, or steps back from that abyss. Personally, I don’t see it happening this time with Trump because he is too much of a GOP outsider.

However, once a GOP insider decides to follow the Trump strategy, all bets are off.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:51pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Hi there! Sorry about that fire and everything!! How’s the fam??!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:25:05pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, you guys gotta give them some credit: at least they read their twitter mentions.

Eventually.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:25:21pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

It was a 2001 Grand Prix and it DIAF in 2011 so we got the use of it.

Not bad for that particular vehicle. Pontiacs of that vintage aren’t exactly known for their world-class durability.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:15pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

And not a single Republican candidate will dare speak out against this. They’ll either avoid the issue or they’ll continue to suck The Donald’s toes in the hopes that, if he should implode, they’ll be positioned to take his place as King Asshole of the GOP.

Or, worst case scenario, jockeying to be The Donald’s veep choice.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:27pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

How did the Town Car turn out?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:34pm

re: #99 bratwurst

New York magazine’s Gabriel Sherman: “Trump is more in sync with the Fox News audience than Roger Ailes is”

fox and the republic party patting itself on the back for how subtle its racism was all these years

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:41pm

What the?!?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:44pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

It was a 2001 Grand Prix and it DIAF in 2011 so we got the use of it.

Our Malibu was consigned to the scrapyard years ago.
Had to tow it there because the damned ignition did not work and the recall notices for that problem didn’t start showing up until years afterward.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:27:35pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:22pm

re: #117 bratwurst

What the?!?!

Cruz just called Megyn Kelly a liberal journalist and compared her to Obama. Wow.

Cruz just slammed his dick in the Overton window.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:26pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

This would be the time where we get to see if the US follows the path taken in Weimar Germany, or steps back from that abyss. Personally, I don’t see it happening this time with Trump because he is too much of a GOP outsider.

However, once a GOP insider decides to follow the Trump strategy, all bets are off.

i think basically all trump has to do is swear to god that he’ll lower capital gains and roll back regulations and the power brokers will be glad to let him take over the country with his brownshirt tactics

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:34pm

re: #116 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

fox and the republic party patting itself on the back for how subtle its racism was all these years

After all that propaganda put out by Fox News and the GOP, they are surprised that the GOP base now prefers real fascists to crypto-fascists?

That really is too funny.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:34pm

re: #117 bratwurst

Trump Junior attempt.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:35pm

re: #117 bratwurst

What the?!?!

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So if you criticize any Republican candidate, you must be a liberal and you must be like Obama. God Ted shut the fuck up you pathetic little troll. Does Megyn criticizing your new bff Donald hurt your feelings?

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:57pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel

How did the Town Car turn out?

She’s in the garage. I’m still trying to diagnose a running issue, but I’ve had it out and driving a bit this summer. As fall sets in, I’m going to try to arrange it so that it and my daily driver will both fit in the garage. Somehow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:04pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Cruz just slammed his dick in the Overton window.

just? His dick has been there the whole time. He wants to out Trump by being an even bigger dick.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:05pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

Because they’re so afraid that Trump will cut off their access to him and his pressers, like he did to the Des Moines Register.

No fucking balls, no fucking integrity, the whole lot of them.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:06pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

That exchange at VB’s looks pretty nice. Which is probably what GM folks were going for.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:09pm

Yes, someone else herd him say this too:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:39pm

re: #117 bratwurst

Cruz just called Megyn Kelly a liberal journalist and compared her to Obama. Wow

circular firing squad beginning to take on the shape of a mobius strip

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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:29:50pm

re: #129 bratwurst

ok, Ted is bowing to the inevitable and is angling for the VP slot….. ////

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:30:13pm

re: #117 bratwurst

I may be in the popcorn mode, but I’m creeped out by how radicalized these clowns have become.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:30:59pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

Not bad for that particular vehicle. Pontiacs of that vintage aren’t exactly known for their world-class durability.

GM discontinued the Pontiac badge, I was sorry to see it go, I have owned 4 GP’s. The best one I had was a 1971 V8, that thing could GO but in the end it hemorrhaged oil and died.

I won’t be buying another GM product anytime soon because *ahem* I get employee pricing from the competition. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:31:14pm

So let me get this straight. By Cruz’s standards, you’re a liberal and like Obama if you criticize Trump and it means you deserve to be called sexist comments. Got it Ted. I am sure your daughters love seeing their dipshit Dad defend sexism on T.V. I feel bad for them knowing that they have you for a Dad and Raffy for a grandpa given how you two respect women who disagree with you. And hell Megyn doesn’t even disagree with you all that much.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:31:20pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Google shows that at some Bilderberg confab, not WH.

google.com

A Brietbart asshole with a press pass heckled the POTUS at the Rose Garden, but he wasn’t kicked out from what I could see.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:31:44pm

re: #123 jaunte

Trump Junior attempt.

“see, daddy - me can talk dirty like dat too!!”

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:05pm

re: #132 Nyet

I may be in the popcorn mode, but I’m creeped out by how radicalized these clowns have become.

Yeah, it’s ceasing to become a joke for me. Especially since I know people who will vote for whatever clown these guys eventually pick, no matter how utterly idiotic he is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:10pm

re: #132 Nyet

I may be in the popcorn mode, but I’m creeped out by how radicalized these clowns have become.

I think we all are. I keep on thinking we;re going to see peak wingnut, that one moment that is a bridge too far for the GOP base when it comes to the candidates. But nope not yet.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:19pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:43pm

re: #132 Nyet

I may be in the popcorn mode, but I’m creeped out by how radicalized these clowns have become.

PTSD. Their worldview pretty much collapsed in Jan 2009.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:52pm

re: #57 Kid A

Your rape culture comment from downstairs wasn’t appreciated here, then you just pop back up like nothing happened. So do us all a favor and get the fuck out.

What the hell did he say????

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:33:06pm

re: #131 piratedan

ok, Ted is bowing to the inevitable and is angling for the VP slot….. ////

Dan… Sarc tags are unneeded. That’s exactly what’s happening. I think it’s what’s been going on since the “private meeting” they took a month ago.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:33:12pm

re: #137 thedopefishlives

Yeah, it’s ceasing to become a joke for me. Especially since I know people who will vote for whatever clown these guys eventually pick, no matter how utterly idiotic he is.

I do too and the thing is some of them are people I respect very much. Not family but neighbors, family friends, etc. You know good people who are a Republican version of the old Yellow Dog Democrats.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:33:14pm

re: #135 Aunty Entity Dragon

Is it this incident? He’s identified as being from The Daily Caller.

Reporter Heckles Obama In The Rose Garden

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:33:17pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

GM discontinued the Pontiac badge, I was sorry to see it go, I have owned 4 GP’s. The best one I had was a 1971 V8, that thing could GO but in the end it hemorrhaged oil and died.

I won’t be buying another GM product anytime soon because *ahem* I get employee pricing from the competition. :)

That’s fair enough. I’m a GM guy from way back, my daily driver is a Malibu, so we’ll just have to have a friendly rivalry across the Interwebs.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:33:46pm

re: #117 bratwurst

What the?!?!

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I sometimes wonder if there’s even a modicum of introspection going on in Kelly’s mind over these attacks she’s receiving from her erstwhile allies. Because deep down she absolutely should have expected it and while I can’t say anybody deserves to be the target of the kind of vicious misogynistic attacks that have been leveled against her, she did damned near everything possible over her career to legitimize her attackers and their atavistic point of view.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:34:22pm

Leave it to Ted Cruz and Donald Trump to make Megyn Kelly look sympathetic.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:34:42pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

And will continue to do so.

$$$

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:35:15pm

re: #141 Aunty Entity Dragon

What the hell did he say????

You have to go downstairs and see it. It’s more than just one comment.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:35:39pm

Cruz called Megyn Kelly part of the liberal media. I think the circle of derp is complete.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:16pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

I sometimes wonder if there’s even a modicum of introspection going on in Kelly’s mind over these attacks she’s receiving from her erstwhile allies. Because deep down she absolutely should have expected it and while I can’t say anybody deserves to be the target of the kind of vicious misogynistic attacks that have leveled against her, she did damned near everything possible over her career to legitimize her attackers and their atavistic point of view.

You’d hope so. Maybe age will bring wisdom to Megyn. I feel bad for her since as you say Frank, I don’t think anyone deserves these kind of attacks but she has worked to legitimize these attackers and their points of view. She has put down plenty of women too simply to push the Fox narrative and while I don’t feel that much sympathy for her, I do a little because I really resent sexist bullshit like this.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:26pm

re: #65 Dexter’s New Approach

The Trump speech was something,. The guy really is good at this, especially compared to the current GOP field. I think his work in the reality TV arena (including WWE) really helps him. Fox has the hardcore base, but many more, less engaged, republicans watch reality TV nightly. And he’s giving them what they need.

That is what scares me. Trump can work a crowd almost like what you used to see Bill Clinton do 25 years ago. He speaks easily, he’s really comfortable with the audience and he actually has an amazing memory for interesting details on people, which means he can deliver an endless ream of personal anecdotes the way other pols can only dream of.

He is fucking dangerous as hell…and he is talented.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:37pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

And all I would have had to give up was any sense of personal integrity.

Hey, works well for the RWNJs and the media

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:53pm

re: #150 Kid A

Cruz called Megyn Kelly part of the liberal media. I think the circle of derp is complete.

Wait until he calls Roger Ailes a liberal. Oh man, that will be fun. Calling the hatchet man for the man he claims admires him a liberal. Please do it Ted.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:05pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I have to remind myself what an utter shithead she truly is so that I don’t fall into “too much sympathy” trap. /

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:36pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

I have to admit, I’m surprised he hasn’t backed out or even so much as flinched at the mention of financials. I think we are all kind of shocked and taken aback that not only is he taking this seriously, he’s actually pretty damn good at it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:54pm

re: #144 KiTA

Is it this incident? He’s identified as being from The Daily Caller.

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Yeah, you’re right. Daily Caller.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:58pm

re: #153 TedStriker

Hey, works well for the RWNJs and the media

It’s worse… most believe their BS.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:02pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

That is what scares me. Trump can work a crowd almost like what you used to see Bill Clinton do 25 years ago. He speaks easily, he’s really comfortable with the audience and he actually has an amazing memory for interesting details on people, which means he can deliver an endless ream of personal anecdotes the way other pols can only dream of.

He is fucking dangerous as hell…and he is talented.

He’s got the worst of both Nixon, Bush, and Reagan. Those three need I remind those keeping score at home have been the most successful Republicans nationally in teh last half century.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:32pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

That is what scares me. Trump can work a crowd almost like what you used to see Bill Clinton do 25 years ago. He speaks easily, he’s really comfortable with the audience and he actually has an amazing memory for interesting details on people, which means he can deliver an endless ream of personal anecdotes the way other pols can only dream of.

He is fucking dangerous as hell…and he is talented.

He also has a fuckton of money and power too. Not a good combination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:47pm

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:52pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I think we all are. I keep on thinking we;re going to see peak wingnut, that one moment that is a bridge too far for the GOP base when it comes to the candidates. But nope not yet.

I think that peak wingnut, thus defined, is logically impossible. The only possible way for a large fraction of the GOP base to desert the party in a general election would be if the GOP nominee were seen as being too moderate.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:38:55pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

I miss him so. He really had an influence in how I look at things. I knew him as Mr. Conductor as a child, Rufus from Bill & Ted later on, the priest in Dogma when I was a teenager. Never really listened to his stand up until I got to college. A guy down the hall in my dorm had a gaggle of George Carlin stand up and dude was generous, let me borrow/copy most of it. There were some weekends my freshman year in college that I would just smoke some grass and listen to George Carlin stand up for hours on end.

Class Clown is still my favorite Carlin album; I got turned on to him a long, long time ago when I found my dad’s 8-track of it.

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piratedan  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:39:33pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

agree, that is a really hard sell, considering the disdain that she shows to anyone that appears to be in opposition to her personal worldview… but hey, you lie down with dogs, then you’re gonna get fleas.

I actually wonder if she actually believes some of the crap that she’s given to say but in this case, I have to believe that she has enough skills to get another job elsewhere if she really wanted one and is in the position of having to ride the tiger despite the tiger not necessarily being disposed to someone of her “caliber”. The only reason I say this, is her behavior on election night 2012 and she went so far as to try and perform a reality check on Rove, live on TV.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:39:59pm

It’s like when people get viciously mauled by the dog they not only never socialized, but actively trained to attack. Part of you feels bad for them, but then another part of you kind of doesn’t.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:00pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry to OT but I got this Tweet and just LOLed

Barn door. Horse.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:20pm

re: #155 Nyet

Yeah, I have to remind myself what an utter shithead she truly is so that I don’t fall into “too much sympathy” trap. /

The Duggar interview alone man. But as you pointed out to me the other day, if we’re going to call out the Mann Coulter crap, we need to do the same if Megyn is attacked in a nasty fashion too. She may not deserve our sympathy but when Trump and Cruz attack her, they’re attacking all women journalists, many of whom actually are professionals unlike Kelly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:39pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh my.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:57pm

It was awesome to have the chance to see Carlin live before he passed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:41:01pm

This is not my car==>
Grand Prix on Fire

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:41:04pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My God, that smirk.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:41:19pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

Of course in this case the dog then escaped the yard, is now actively terrorizing and shitting all over most of the neighborhood.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:42:00pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Same end result, I’m guessing. Actually, my brother-in-law had a GP get lit up from an oil leak, so I’m guessing it’s endemic to the model. Of course, that was right after my grandmother’s Dodge (which they inherited) blew up on them…

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:42:56pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is bad news for the moribund Perry campaign, but is it really good news for Trump?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:43:04pm

re: #164 piratedan

agree, that is a really hard sell, considering the disdain that she shows to anyone that appears to be in opposition to her personal worldview… but hey, you lie down with dogs, then you’re gonna get fleas.

I actually wonder if she actually believes some of the crap that she’s given to say but in this case, I have to believe that she has enough skills to get another job elsewhere if she really wanted one and is in the position of having to ride the tiger despite the tiger not necessarily being disposed to someone of her “caliber”. The only reason I say this, is her behavior on election night 2012 and she went so far as to try and perform a reality check on Rove, live on TV.

I imagine Fox pays the big bucks. The right wing audience loves having an attractive young woman on the T.V that looks like she could be the girl of your dreams but she talks like Rush Limbaugh. That’s the reason why Fox hires attractive women in my opinion. Megyn’s definitely not a dummy. I believe she’s a bar certified lawyer in her home state and I can tell you from just taking one paralegal class, getting your JD is no easy accomplishment and definitely takes intellect but like so many in the right wing world, whether that’s politics or the media, they dumb down their shit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:43:39pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

It was awesome to have the chance to see Carlin live before he passed.

Lucky.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:01pm

Wait, ISIS made a Jenner costume?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:06pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Of course in this case the dog then escaped the yard, is now actively terrorizing and shitting all over most of the neighborhood.

That is why you keep the hero kittehz on standby:

Cat Saves Boy From Dog FULL COMPLETE VIDEO

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:13pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

I sometimes wonder if there’s even a modicum of introspection going on in Kelly’s mind over these attacks she’s receiving from her erstwhile allies. Because deep down she absolutely should have expected it and while I can’t say anybody deserves to be the target of the kind of vicious misogynistic attacks that have leveled against her, she did damned near everything possible over her career to legitimize her attackers and their atavistic point of view.

I had a similar thought in dissecting S.E. Cupp’s ridiculous assertion that moderates and liberals are behind the rise of Trump. The instinct to feel sorry for certain segments of right wing punditry when it comes to their task to dealing with the Trump phenomenon is balanced by the reality they all played a role in making it possible.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:34pm

re: #163 TedStriker

Class Clown is still my favorite Carlin album; I got turned on to him a long, long time ago when I found my dad’s 8-track of it.

FM/AM was my favorite for a time.

If I had to give a person who’d never heard George Carlin just one hour of George Carlin material it would be his 1986 HBO special Playin’ With Your Head. That’s my favorite. It’s a great piece that shows Carlin’s transition from goofy fuckin’ guy to pointed social commentator who told fart jokes.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:53pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

I imagine Fox pays the big bucks. The right wing audience loves having an attractive young woman on the T.V that looks like she could be the girl of your dreams but she talks like Rush Limbaugh. That’s the reason why Fox hires attractive women in my opinion. Megyn’s definitely not a dummy. I believe she’s a bar certified lawyer in her home state and I can tell you from just taking one paralegal class, getting your JD is no easy accomplishment and definitely takes intellect but like so many in the right wing world, whether that’s politics or the media, they dumb down their shit.

She’s not stupid, and that’s why she gets no sympathy while she remains in shill mode.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:44:54pm

re: #174 EPR-radar

This is bad news for the moribund Perry campaign, but is it really good news for Trump?

I’m liking the idea that the Perry staffer might be a carrier that will infect the Trump campaign with perryitis…

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:45:32pm

re: #117 bratwurst

What the?!?!

Kelly better hope that she has a an air-tight severance clause in her contract, because the TPGOP is starting to airbrush her out of their history.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:45:34pm

trump also knows something that has escaped the regular parties in their intense polarization of the past 40 years:

you can mix and match policies and statements to cover the largest possible ground

one the one hand, we have trump sounding like the worst brownshirt that ever ran for a major party nomination

on the other hand, he calls out the pols for being beholden to big money and proposes protectionism to bring back off-shored jobs from overseas

in other words, he’s forging a third way that doesnt remotely resemble any democratic or republican platform since smoot hawley was repealed

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:46:17pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Of course in this case the dog then escaped the yard, is now actively terrorizing and shitting all over most of the neighborhood.

+1 for Cujo reference. //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:46:37pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, ISIS made a Jenner costume?

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This is such crap. There are a lot of people who are vocally pissed at ISIS’ homophobia and as I’ve pointed out a thousand times, the right was praising the Taliban when human rights groups were criticizing them. Dana like so many conservatives thinks you can’t be horrified by ISIS murdering gays and also think the Caitlyn Jenner halloween outfit is in poor taste. This is how conservatives like Dana think though. A has to always be A. And about ISIS killing gays, Dana what about your religious right friends who support killing gays in Uganda? Do you ever condemn them? Huh/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:14pm

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:29pm

re: #181 Decatur Deb

She’s not stupid, and that’s why she gets no sympathy while she remains in shill mode.

Yeah I guess I give some sympathy. I mean I am a bleeding heart liberal. But I do feel ya since she’s still in shill mode and as Frank and Sergey have pointed out is just as bad.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:32pm

Yay! This will clear the smoke out of my twenty for a short time. Then high pressure builds again. Ugh. NWS is saying it’ll be hazy in north-central Colorado until the fires in the PNW are out, and that’ll take weeks.

*sigh*

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:39pm

re: #179 bratwurst

I had a similar thought in dissecting S.E. Cupp’s ridiculous assertion that moderates and liberals are behind the rise of Trump. The instinct to feel sorry for certain segments of right wing punditry when it comes to their task to dealing with the Trump phenomenon is balanced by the reality they all played a role in making it possible.

Christ on a crutch…S.E.Cupp should have stayed in ballet and left political punditry to someone with, oh, I dunno, competency?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:40pm

re: #179 bratwurst

Trump in 1989:

“How can our great society tolerate the continued brutalization of its citizens by crazed misfits? Criminals must be told that their CIVIL LIBERTIES END WHEN AN ATTACK ON OUR SAFETY BEGINS!” And his headline suggested what ought to be done with them:

BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY.
BRING BACK OUR POLICE!

The “park marauders,” the “roving gang,” the “crazed misfits” were fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen years old. The confessions they gave, as children, had been false, spun out under the pressure of hours of police interrogations. (They were, had anyone been ready to acknowledge it at the time, also inconsistent; they also had parents whom they weren’t able to see before their questioning.) The boys were sent to prison.
newyorker.com

He’s been a racist demagogue for a while now.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:48:35pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

This is such crap. There are a lot of people who are vocally pissed at ISIS’ homophobia and as I’ve pointed out a thousand times, the right was praising the Taliban when human rights groups were criticizing them. Dana like so many conservatives thinks you can’t be horrified by ISIS murdering gays and also think the Caitlyn Jenner halloween outfit is in poor taste. This is how conservatives like Dana think though. A has to always be A. And about ISIS killing gays, Dana what about your religious right friends who support killing gays in Uganda? Do you ever condemn them? Huh/

Pretty sure we send outrage by drone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:48:36pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

This is such crap. There are a lot of people who are vocally pissed at ISIS’ homophobia and as I’ve pointed out a thousand times, the right was praising the Taliban when human rights groups were criticizing them. Dana like so many conservatives thinks you can’t be horrified by ISIS murdering gays and also think the Caitlyn Jenner halloween outfit is in poor taste. This is how conservatives like Dana think though. A has to always be A. And about ISIS killing gays, Dana what about your religious right friends who support killing gays in Uganda? Do you ever condemn them? Huh/

BUT ISIS is just SHUT UP ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE in wingnutese.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:49:04pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m liking the idea that the Perry staffer might be a carrier that will infect the Trump campaign with perryitis…

Sounds like a nematode worm that infests your kidneys and liver…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:49:04pm

re: #188 Nyet

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Yep. As I said, I don’t have much sympathy for her since she’s created this culture at Fox and on the right where this kind of behavior is acceptable. She’s just on the receiving end of it this time instead of smiling politely while one of her male colleagues at Fox dishes it out at other women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:49:45pm

re: #195 Aunty Entity Dragon

Sounds like a nematode worm that infests your kidneys and liver…

that’ll work, too.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:50:06pm

re: #191 Aunty Entity Dragon

Christ on a crutch…S.E.Cupp should have stayed in ballet and left political punditry to someone with, oh, I dunno, competency?

Ah S.E. Cupp, the hipster right wing chick heh. Claims to be an atheist but shits on atheists. Claims to be pro-gay rights but supports anti-gay candidates and policies. You know hipsters, they just love being ironic.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:51:27pm

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

BUT ISIS is just SHUT UP ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE in wingnutese.

Yeah it’s stupid. I mean does ISIS killing gays bother me? Hell yeah it does but what happens at home bothers me a bit more since it’s something we can do more about. And as I said about the homophobia, there are plenty of nations including some that we support that do this same crap to gays and not to mention that Dana’s RR allies were behind that crap in Uganda.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:51:36pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Yeah I guess I give some sympathy. I mean I am a bleeding heart liberal. But I do feel ya since she’s still in shill mode and as Frank and Sergey have pointed out is just as bad.

I like to feed my inner union thug.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:51:55pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Pretty sure we send outrage by drone.

Heh.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:52:11pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

She’s an atheist who claims that she wants to believe and just can’t. Basically a self-hating atheist, if ever there was one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:52:25pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:52:50pm

S.E. Cupp is a right-wing grifter of a high order. She makes a lot of money doing what she does, which is basically selling out her integrity on a daily basis. She also went skeet shooting when she was seven months pregnant. Good idea! Great for the fetus!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:52:53pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s stupid. I mean does ISIS killing gays bother me? Hell yeah it does but what happens at home bothers me a bit more since it’s something we can do more about. And as I said about the homophobia, there are plenty of nations including some that we support that do this same crap to gays and not to mention that Dana’s RR allies were behind that crap in Uganda.

I clicked on the timeline for that Dana Muhgunz!! Tweet and it is just as horrible as you could imagine.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:53:09pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

I like to feed my inner union thug.

Feeding your inner union thug makes baby Ben Shapiro cry, you heartless monster.

;)

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:53:17pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Pretty sure we send outrage by drone.

Sounds like the next Amazon product. Outrage, delivered by drone.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:53:18pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Yep. As I said, I don’t have much sympathy for her since she’s created this culture at Fox and on the right where this kind of behavior is acceptable. She’s just on the receiving end of it this time instead of smiling politely while one of her male colleagues at Fox dishes it out at other women.

I have zero sympathy for anyone at Fox News in any kind of senior position. Fox News and AM hate radio are the two primary causes of the degeneration of the GOP base into a proto-fascist mob.

Maybe some of the functionaries in this propaganda mill like Megyn Kelly will see the light when the Ailes/Limbaugh monster starts going after them personally.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:53:52pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

It’s a typical instance of the not as bad as fallacy, the “Dear Muslima” variation of it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:54:03pm

OH

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:54:57pm

re: #202 Nyet

She’s an atheist who claims that she wants to believe and just can’t. Basically a self-hating atheist, if ever there was one.

I mean if she wants to believe and just can’t find any proof, that’s bully for her, that’s actually arguably close to my position on the so called great question. However, unlike S.E., I don’t have a problem with people who don’t believe in God being vocal about their opinion that they don’t and having come to the conclusion on their own that there isn’t. She’s definitely self-loathing or at least wants to market it herself that way. That’s not that there can’t be conservatives who are atheists but the way Cupp puts down atheists. I believe she even has a book doing so is just crap.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:55:09pm

saw the NASA tweet and thought “Did they really need another study to come to this conclusion?”
Then I made the mistake of reading a few replies

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:55:30pm

re: #206 Aunty Entity Dragon

Feeding your inner union thug makes baby Ben Shapiro cry, you heartless monster.

;)

It makes Scott Walker cry oceans of tears.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:55:42pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

The snot can show virus and bacteria loads, and help researchers look for environmental toxins absorbed into the whale’s system.

The sample can also be used to check hormone levels. Crucial data, researchers say, because it can indicate how much stress the creatures are under in their natural habitat.

Getting buzzed by a snot drone might add to their stress.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:55:52pm

re: #202 Nyet

She’s an atheist who claims that she wants to believe and just can’t. Basically a self-hating atheist, if ever there was one.

I thought she claimed to have been an atheist who “found Christ”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:57:22pm

re: #209 Nyet

It’s a typical instance of the not as bad as fallacy, the “Dear Muslima” variation of it.

It’s cool that we have names for all these logical fallacies. You see them done all the time but I don’t know the names most of the time. I mean I could well let’s be honest I have played the same game when Christians claim to be persecuted here but that’s because it’s not persecuting Christians to allow gays to marry or to protect them from being denied a product.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:57:39pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

That hair. Things that are hair to come? I am sorry about the bad pun but I could not resist.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:58:29pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

OH

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:00:32pm

re: #214 jaunte

Getting buzzed by a snot drone might add to their stress.

Beats having a zodiak take a rectal temperature.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:01:05pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:01:39pm

OMG OMG OMG
This is the JCC where I go swimming every week!
Next Sunday would have been my last swim.

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nines09  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:01:57pm

The Cargo Cult has been eagerly awaiting the return of The Cowboy since they sanctified Reagan. Well they got them one big ass demigod cowboy now.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:02:34pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Well, she better have the remains ready for testing then!/

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:02:52pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Beats having a zodiak take a rectal temperature.

Not that a zodiak is involved, but one of my cats purrs when the vet does this.

It’s very disturbing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:40pm

re: #188 Nyet

Got it in one.

Editorial cartoonists can say more in one drawing than a thousand word screed-and they can also be some of the most vulnerable.

While I can have a scintilla of sympathy for Kelly in regard to the misogynistic mutterings of The Donald , she knew what she was in for should someone decide to take her on. And she’s being paid good money for her position-shit, she herself and her family is probably part of the 1%.

But hey-there’s still over 400 days until the 2016 election. A whole lot of shit can go down.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:41pm

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:48pm

re: #224 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Not that a zodiak is involved, but one of my cats purrs when the vet does this.

It’s very disturbing.

Cats are very weird creatures.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:57pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

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To be fair, Cruz probably thinks William F. Buckley was a liberal too.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:09pm

re: #224 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Not that a zodiak is involved, but one of my cats purrs when the vet does this.

It’s very disturbing.

Cats can purr when they are distressed or afraid.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:22pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Trump wishing Univision into the cornfield.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:37pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:43pm

re: #229 EPR-radar

Cats can purr when they are distressed or afraid.

I realized this after that.

Because the alternative was just TOO disturbing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:48pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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Heh. I always loved reading that Rod Serling was a huge civil libertarian. He left us way too soon but the Twilight Zone is iconic even to those of us who didn’t grow up with it.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:05:16pm

For Trump fans, “Univision” being everything Hispanic.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:05:42pm

re: #224 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Not that a zodiak is involved, but one of my cats purrs when the vet does this.

It’s very disturbing.

Purring can be a reaction to stress and pain. Mother-to-be cats often purr in labor.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:06:12pm

re: #224 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Not that a zodiak is involved, but one of my cats purrs when the vet does this.

It’s very disturbing.

The greatest Far Side ever:

An instant later, both Professor Waxman and his time machine are obliterated, leaving the cold-blooded / warm-blooded dinosaur debate still unresolved.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:06:21pm

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

And now it won’t be your last swim. I am very happy for you.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:07:06pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Ah S.E. Cupp, the hipster right wing chick heh. Claims to be an atheist but shits on atheists. Claims to be pro-gay rights but supports anti-gay candidates and policies. You know hipsters, they just love being ironic.

S.E. Cupp, Kennedy & Liz Mair are Andy Warhol’s greatest masterpieces.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:07:26pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

OF COURSE YOU DO, YOU WRITE THE WHOLE SECTION YOURSELF!!1

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:10pm

re: #235 Aunty Entity Dragon

Purring can be a reaction to stress and pain. Mother-to-be cats often purr in labor.

She hyperventilates in the 5 minutes it takes in the car to get to the vet, so that reaction wouldn’t have raised eyebrows.

It does mean we take her purring at home at somewhat less than face value. Like sure, you’re purring now …but you also purred with a thermometer up your butt. So.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:19pm

I don’t know if I got this image here, or off my FB feeds. If I got it here, I apologize for reposting it, but I’m pretty sure it was off of FB…

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:09:20pm

re: #240 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t judge! //

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:09:33pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:09:57pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

The Outer Limits - 1963 Seasons - Intro - HD

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:10:04pm

re: #242 Nyet

Don’t judge! //

I won’t judge, I just don’t wanna knooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

It’s on the same level as pretending your parents are asexual beings. Despite the fact that they aren’t. And you have proof.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:10:18pm

Isn’t Univision an American company?

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:10:37pm

re: #243 goddamnedfrank

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I’d suspect Malignant Colon Polyp, but that’s just a hunch.

RBS

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:11:34pm

re: #246 GlutenFreeJesus

Yes, but it sounds furrin’

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:12:02pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

That was Kirsten Powers.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:12:19pm

Another sign that Trump is a demagogue.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:12:34pm

Who can name a primary/party moment more disturbing than this one since say the red scare days? Seriously. Who was more frightening as poll topping prospect?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:13:14pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Wingnuts believe that Liberals are just mirror images of their own dysfunctions.
Dumbshits, nobody “worships” Hillary the way wingnuts are worshiping Trump. In fact nobody even likes Hillary.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:13:43pm

From Traces of Texas

George Jones singing on the streets of Beaumont at the age of 12 in about 1943.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:13:48pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

McCarthy? Both are downright scary.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:13:50pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

Who can name a primary/party moment more disturbing than this one since say the red scare days? Seriously. Who was more frightening as poll topping prospect?

Pat Buchanan winning the NH GOP primary in 1996. That one caused me to get a passport.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:15:04pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

Who can name a primary/party moment more disturbing than this one since say the red scare days? Seriously. Who was more frightening as poll topping prospect?

The racist rage of Father Coughlin, the backstabbing nastiness of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy and the slick populist political salesmanship of Huey Long.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:15:10pm

re: #247 Reality Based Steve

I’d suspect Malignant Colon Polyp, but that’s just a hunch.

RBS

The GOP base is a big tent. Dozens of different malignancies will show up in a sewer like Breitbart comments.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:15:42pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shame on all those other reporters who sat there and watched this happen without protest.

I’m anticipating Maureen Dowd’s next column in the New York Times. I’m sure she’s going to smack Trump down over this…

OOPS!

I forgot, Maureen is too busy scribbling her next “I Hate Hillary” Hit Piece…

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:16pm

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Wingnuts believe that Liberals are just mirror images of their own dysfunctions.
Dumbshits, nobody “worships” Hillary the way wingnuts are worshiping Trump. In fact nobody even likes Hillary.

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:20pm

re: #256 Aunty Entity Dragon

The racist rage of Father Coughlin, the backstabbing nastiness of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy and the slick populist political salesmanship of Huey Long.

Yeah quite a trio there.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:24pm

All Trumped out for another day. Later!

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:02pm

re: #258 Joe Bacon

The only thing less relevant than Maureen Dowd is Little Green Footballs.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:03pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:33pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

I like Bernie but my mom says he reminds her of Adlai Stevenson (2-time loser)

So ready for Joe to throw his hairplugs in the ring.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:42pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

Yeah, because the other option is sooooo much better.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:00pm

re: #258 Joe Bacon

I’m anticipating Maureen Dowd’s next column in the New York Times. I’m sure she’s going to smack Trump down over this…

OOPS!

I forgot, Maureen is too busy scribbling her next “I Hate Hillary” Hit Piece…

Meanwhile, David Brooks will try to paper over this bit of thuggery with more of his both-siderist bullshit. It is so clear that most of these pundits and columnists hold their jobs only because they say and write things the plutocrats like.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:09pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

Did you tell them that they’re fucking morons?

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:28pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

I don’t get it. :(

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:28pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:37pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

Yeah, this idea that lefties are loyal to the Democratic Party is laughable. A lot of liberals are, yes and I’ve stated I have pragmatic reasons. And I am not “loyal” to Planned Parenthood, I am standing up for a group that does a lot of good for men and women being likened to the Nazis but thanks for telling me how I think, internet conservative who only votes Republican because you like tax cuts even though you claim to care about your gay friends.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:38pm

Many thanks to those of you that did vote in the latest LGF poll. It’s below the fold in pages, so if you have not yet, please stop in.
littlegreenfootballs.com

So far the majority wants a warrant for the use of this technology…

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:19:23pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

I’d rather see Bernie, but by god, I’d vote for a thousand Hillaries over ANY of the GOP’s clown show.

This whole election has me so scared. I’m genuinely worried Hillary is going to blow it somehow and we’re going to end up with a nightmare on our hands. The GOP hasn’t been out in exile for long enough to have fixed any of their problems.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:19:34pm

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

I like Bernie but my mom says he reminds her of Adlai Stevenson (2-time loser)

So ready for Joe to throw his hairplugs in the ring.

While I’m against the idea for other reasons, Joe won’t appeal to that crowd either.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:19:57pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

Maybe we should deport that Trump person?

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:08pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All of my lefty friends on my social network channels despise Hillary. A few of them have said they won’t vote for president if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

*sigh*

Judges. Not just SCOTUS, but the entire federal judiciary. There will be little or no justice in this country if the Federal courts are packed to the gills with Liberty U RWNJ ideologues that are probably mass produced in vat beef tanks these days.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:31pm

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

I like Bernie but my mom says he reminds her of Adlai Stevenson (2-time loser)

So ready for Joe to throw his hairplugs in the ring.

I think Bernie is a little Eugene McCarthy. Never thought of Adlai. I think you put Adlai against a Republican not named Ike and a different era, he does better than he did but like Bernie, he did attract a loyal following. There was even a Draft Stevenson movement in 1960 after he had had lost two consecutive elections. Now that’s what I call dedication. I think the only person who was nominated for president by a major party and lost more elections was William Jennings Bryan.

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Kid A  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:35pm

Oh goodie. Concern Troll is concern trolling.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:41pm

Some people who won’t get Bernie will just vote for Jill Stein.
They were never gonna vote for anyone mainstream other than Bernie.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:21:55pm

re: #267 TedStriker

Did you tell them that they’re fucking morons?

No. Because they’re my friends and I don’t call my friends “fucking morons” unless I plan on not being friends with them anymore, which isn’t in the cards.

They’re convinced that Hillary is cut from the same cloth as Republicans; crony capitalism, “bought and paid for by Wall Street”, etc. etc. Fact of the matter is they still have much to learn about our political system. Hopefully by November 2016 I’ll have convinced them that voting Democrat is in their best interests. If by that time they are still obstinate, I will gladly call them fucking morons and end it there.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:22:03pm

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

Maybe we should deport that Trump person?

Or at least the Hair.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:22:47pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

Judges. Not just SCOTUS, but the entire federal judiciary. There will be little or no justice in this country if the Federal courts are packed to the gills with Liberty U RWNJ ideologues that are probably mass produced in vat beef tanks these days.

Which is what the purer than thou Bernie supporters need to get. Yeah Hillary may not be Bernie but she’s going to through the power of appointing judges be much more positive for not just you but your children through her judicial picks. Hillary hasn’t talked much about her judicial philosophy when it comes to picks yet but if there are anything like her husbands and President Obama’s rather than President Reagan and the Bushes, then I’ll take her. I don’t want to hear about rights being weakened by a conservative judiciary if a Republican wins because some stubborn assholes stayed home.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:04pm

re: #272 KiTA

Don’t fucking comment on my comments asshole. Just don’t. You’re a neckbeard fuckhole piece of shit. Fuck off.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:25pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

Hey, right wingers? @jorgeramosnews is a US citizen. Just thought you’d like to know that before you keep ranting about deporting him.

sooner or later i hope somebody explains to donald trump exactly what happens when he uses the word “illegals”

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:24:02pm

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

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No Depression  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:24:27pm

Ugh now’s there people running with the “Iran gets to use their own inspectors” bullshit on my Facebook feed. Fuck the AP.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:24:39pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

No. Because they’re my friends and I don’t call my friends “fucking morons” unless I plan on not being friends with them anymore, which isn’t in the cards.

They’re convinced that Hillary is cut from the same cloth as Republicans; crony capitalism, “bought and paid for by Wall Street”, etc. etc. Fact of the matter is they still have much to learn about our political system. Hopefully by November 2016 I’ll have convinced them that voting Democrat is in their best interests. If by that time they are still obstinate, I will gladly call them fucking morons and end it there.

Hopefully they will. I was a Kucinich supporter when I was a teenager in 2004. I was okay with Senator Kerry being the nominee but a lot of the lefty types I knew were not. I don’t how many ultimately swallowed their pride and gave Kerry their vote but in the end I think ABB- Anyone But Bush was not good enough. That said, I think Hillary’s probably got a more capable staff than Kerry or Gore did too.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:25:51pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I always liked the nick one DKos user has: It’s About the Supreme Court, Stupid.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:26:15pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

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HURR HURR BUT HE’S MEXICAN HE MUST BE AN ILLEGAL

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:26:31pm

re: #284 Great White Snark

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now or have you ever thought of going to Mexico? But you’re right man, this shit is scary. And it genuinely scares me having Hispanic family members. I don’t want my sister in law or niece to experience harassment because they’ve got darker skin or speak Spanish.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:26:37pm

seen on another blog

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:27:37pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

Before I hear from Chan Kobun and others about the futility of telling an anonymous poster at an internet comment board to not comment, yes I realize the futility of such an exercise. Fact is, KiTA is a Men’s Rights Activist Woman Hating Fucktard who can die in a fire for all I care. So I tell him to not respond to anything I say. It’s best for the both of us.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:27:42pm

Trump/Moloch 2016!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:27:52pm

re: #287 Nyet

I always liked the nick one DKos user has: It’s About the Supreme Court, Stupid.

Especially this time. You got four of the nine on the Supreme Court who will be 80 I think by the end of the next president’s first term. I’d like to get the first sane minded majority on the court since Warren. The country needs that big time. Hell I’d even settle for Burger given how far first the Rehnquist and now the Roberts court has gone to the right.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:28:31pm

re: #291 teleskiguy

Before I hear from Chan Kobun and others about the futility of telling an anonymous poster at an internet comment board to not comment, yes I realize the futility of such an exercise. Fact is, KiTA is a Men’s Rights Activist Woman Hating Fucktard who can die in a fire for all I care. So I tell him to not respond to anything I say. It’s best for the both of us.

Hey, I’m fine with you telling Gator trash to shut their pie-inhalers. More people ought to.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:28:31pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

No. Because they’re my friends and I don’t call my friends “fucking morons” unless I plan on not being friends with them anymore, which isn’t in the cards.

They’re convinced that Hillary is cut from the same cloth as Republicans; crony capitalism, “bought and paid for by Wall Street”, etc. etc. Fact of the matter is they still have much to learn about our political system. Hopefully by November 2016 I’ll have convinced them that voting Democrat is in their best interests. If by that time they are still obstinate, I will gladly call them fucking morons and end it there.

ask them why the koch bros expend so much of their precious lucre supporting republican candidates if there is no difference

karl rove has a happy whenever he hears of purists like this…

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:28:48pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

No. Because they’re my friends and I don’t call my friends “fucking morons” unless I plan on not being friends with them anymore, which isn’t in the cards.

They’re convinced that Hillary is cut from the same cloth as Republicans; crony capitalism, “bought and paid for by Wall Street”, etc. etc. Fact of the matter is they still have much to learn about our political system. Hopefully by November 2016 I’ll have convinced them that voting Democrat is in their best interests. If by that time they are still obstinate, I will gladly call them fucking morons and end it there.

It has to be noted that Wall Street and the big banks pretty much do own both parties. The Democrats and Republicans are not permitted to differ from each other very much on economic issues, which is why trade deals, bank deregulation etc. are usually bi-partisan screw jobs.

However, the plutocrats don’t really care so much about the social and identity issues, and a huge gulf has opened up between the parties on these issues. Voting for the GOP is an affirmative vote for women to be second class citizens and for discrimination against blacks and other minorities to continue unabated or to increase. Not voting for the Democrat in a general election is effectively 1/2 a vote for the GOP caveman agenda.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:29:27pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Tell them to go look upt he phrase “both sides don’t”. Plenty of things thery might want to know before treating their vote like a fucking fashion statement.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:30:35pm

re: #287 Nyet

I always liked the nick one DKos user has: It’s About the Supreme Court, Stupid.

That’s the greatest part of it, but it’s also about holding on to the half a loaf the Obama administration could wring from the bastards. If the TPGOP gets in, it’s at best 1980 again.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:31:26pm

re: #288 thedopefishlives

HURR HURR BUT HE’S MEXICAN HE MUST BE AN ILLEGAL

or he speaks Spanish, he must be a Mexican. I remember a neighborhood friend, well he was more of my friend’s brother but we were sort of friends I guess but he loved bitching about the Mexicans this and the Mexicans that. I couldn’t get over it honestly. This guy was the most proud Irish-American you’ll meet right down to his name and he was keenly aware of what our (I include myself since I self identify as Irish-American) ancestors had faced when they got here from Ireland. I guess we took two different lessons from that. Knowing that my ancestors probably faced shit for being Irish also German and Slavic not to mention Catholic mostly from nativists has made me more empathetic to what today’s majority Latino and Asian immigrants go through. I know that an immigrant adult isn’t going to learn teh language on the dye and hell my own great grandmother died not knowing much English.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:32:25pm

You folks don’t need to tell me how to talk to my friends about the 2016 election. I appreciate the help, I think I can handle it. The fucking election is in

Video

I’ve got plenty of time to talk politics with my Berniac friends.

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No Depression  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:33:53pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

No. Because they’re my friends and I don’t call my friends “fucking morons” unless I plan on not being friends with them anymore, which isn’t in the cards.

They’re convinced that Hillary is cut from the same cloth as Republicans; crony capitalism, “bought and paid for by Wall Street”, etc. etc. Fact of the matter is they still have much to learn about our political system. Hopefully by November 2016 I’ll have convinced them that voting Democrat is in their best interests. If by that time they are still obstinate, I will gladly call them fucking morons and end it there.

For a little while, I expressed a similar viewpoint as your friends, though for different reasons. I was pretty conservative growing up, but became more liberal throughout college as I saw each bullshit belief I had fall like a domino. I would often say there was no difference between Republicans and Democrats because I couldn’t come to terms with the fact that I was becoming one of them libtards and wanted to absolve the GOP of any guilt for becoming batshit insane. I know better now though. Hopefully they’ll learn too.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:33:58pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Well, your statement is the prelude to my own. They go together. ;)

It is true, though. I’ve known lots of wingnuts in my day, and anyone who speaks Spanish fluently, has brown-ish skin, or even has brown eyes and dark hair must be a dirty Mexican. Part of me wonders if it’s kind of an instinctual, fear-based racism from the upper Midwest, where we’re mostly from white stock (Irish, Scottish, German, Scandinavian) and there are very few people of any other race.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:34:16pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

Don’t fucking comment on my comments asshole. Just don’t. You’re a neckbeard fuckhole piece of shit. Fuck off.

If someone is seriously rubbing you the wrong way (and I did not see whatever he wrote downstairs, but I gather it was not good at all), it is better to just downding if applicable or ignore and refuse to engage.

The nice thing about the LGF community is that we treat it like a community and not a Buzzfeed cesspool.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:34:34pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

That’s the greatest part of it, but it’s also about holding on to the half a loaf the Obama administration could wring from the bastards. If the TPGOP gets in, it’s at best 1980 again.

Yeah keeping ACA is a biggie. I said it here a month or so back but when I voted for Obama in 2008, there were some things I wanted from our president that I felt Bush did not provide- A) A president that would fight for the rights of all citizens not just straight ones, check, B) President who would fight to get more Americans insured, did that, C) A president who wouldn’t blow off allies as “Old Europe” simply because they didn’t agree. Now did Obama do everything I wanted, no but he’s done a remarkable job given his situation and I do trust Hillary to do the right thing to continue progress rather than impede it like any of the GOP candiates would.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:34:41pm

re: #294 Chan Kobun

Hey, I’m fine with you telling Gator trash to shut their pie-inhalers. More people ought to.

It was either you or Eric The Fruit Bat that said something a while back about the futility of telling someone to shut up in a comment thread. If it wasn’t you or Eric, I apologize.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:35:13pm

re: #300 teleskiguy

You folks don’t need to tell me how to talk to my friends about the 2016 election. I appreciate the help, I think I can handle it. The fucking election is in

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I’ve got plenty of time to talk politics with my Berniac friends.

You’re fine. I think those of us who told you to call them out are just frustrated with that attitude. Hopefully they do realize it.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:35:34pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

voting Democrat is in their best interests

And in the interest of a whole lot of people that aren’t them.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:35:47pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

Don’t fucking comment on my comments asshole. Just don’t. You’re a neckbeard fuckhole piece of shit. Fuck off.

I’m covering that downstairs, but I’ll bring it up here.

The definition I was given for “Rape Culture” was the literal definition as presented to me — “a culture that glorifies rape.” I don’t feel that we have such a culture, However, this is apparently woefully inadequate compared to the actual definition of the term as used, which apparently is multifaceted and includes a host of types of misogyny and attacks on victims.

Given that the subcultures I’ve been involved with have been harassed (up to and including death and bomb threats) by trolls from SomethingAwful and GNAA pretending to be “third wave” feminists, I probably have a slanted, reactionary response to the term.

I’d like to educate myself about this, so I don’t come across as such a “neckbeard” when I genuinely do identify as a feminist and believe in equal rights.

So. I asked klys downstairs, I’ll put the question out to everyone in here: Does anyone have any reading material on rape culture, a more realistic definition of such, examples of it in our culture, et cetera. I’m willing to read with an open mind since it’s obvious I’m on a completely different page than the rest of us.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:36:04pm

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry to OT but I got this Tweet and just LOLed

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“I understand your frustration”

Goddamned customer service sugarspeak. Hate it hate it hate it. *spits*

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:36:37pm

re: #303 Aunty Entity Dragon

KiTA deserves every bit of invective thrown at him tonight. I’m a nice guy, folks here know. I don’t throw insults like that around often. It’s deserved in this case. It’s helpful to other readers so they can see what a festering pustule of a human being KiTA is.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:37:32pm

re: #308 KiTA

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:37:51pm

At the site of the future Trump Wall to keep US citizens out of Mexico…

marfapublicradio.org

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:38:39pm

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:39:18pm

re: #300 teleskiguy

You folks don’t need to tell me how to talk to my friends about the 2016 election. I appreciate the help, I think I can handle it. The fucking election is in

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I’ve got plenty of time to talk politics with my Berniac friends.

But it’s almost too late to start effective action. Think of the manhours needed to update, validate and upgrade the GOTV databases. Before you can even start that you need functioning precinct-level organizations.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:39:30pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

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I believe I mentioned that at some point downstairs. Perhaps The Donald should take note of my First Law of the Internet: The Internet is forever.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:39:38pm

re: #312 jaunte

At the site of the future Trump Wall to keep US citizens out of Mexico…

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marfapublicradio.org

This is exactly why we need to have open borders. This woman shouldn’t have to wade through the rivers of the Rio Grande just to see her family. The other thing is if Trump got his wall and mass deportation policy, inevitably some legal immigrants and yes even some U.S citizens would probably get deported too. Hell it happens now but it would happen on a huge scale if the modern day Know-Nothings got their wet dream.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:05pm

Wonder if we could ever see a Hillary / Bernie ticket.

Would that even work? Or are they too far apart politically?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:13pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

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Heh I actually sort of had. It’s been overshadowed by so much other stuff since then.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:31pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

Birtherism = racism -> bonus for Trump

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:06pm

And once again fairly pissed at California being so damn late in the primary process. WTH were they thinking? IOWA? Serously/!

How screwed would the donald be by an early California primary?

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:12pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Cruz just slammed his dick in the Overton window.

I LOL’d at this.

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b.d.  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:39pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

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Trump should release his investigators findings regarding Obama being born in Kenya.

WHY WON’T TRUMP RELEASE HIS FINDINGS!?!?

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:48pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

The river is just a foot or two deep for a considerable part of its length, so walking across is pretty common. I’ve been across it at Boquillas before. The wall idea is just ludicrous.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:42:12pm

re: #319 Nyet

Birtherism = racism -> bonus for Trump

Yeah no doubt that he was an unabashed birther rather than the “Well he might be an American” wishy washy crap that the other ones play is a positive for the base. They really don’t care that he used to espouse some Democratic views. Hell granted Reagan later proved himself in office but Reagan had been a liberal Democrat too and that’s exactly the line Trump used when Rand Paul called him a phony.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:42:49pm

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Disclosure: The only time in my life I was truly politically active was when Colorado tried to legalize cannabis in 2006. We’re talking gathering signatures, going to rallies, selling t-shirts. etc.

We lost that year. I became much less active politically. Now? It’s a face-to-face thing, individual, personal correspondence. I find that’s the most effective way of getting the right ideas across. Ask any church pastor.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:43:57pm

re: #317 KiTA

Wonder if we could ever see a Hillary / Bernie ticket.

Would that even work? Or are they too far apart politically?

I’ll entertain.

No. But not because they’re too far apart politically. They’re about as far apart politically as pages 640 and 642 in the book I’m reading.

It wouldn’t work because he doesn’t gain her much as VP and it would be better if he’s in the senate. One of the Castros in Texas would be a much better fit for either of them.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:43:58pm

“Is the GOP really so debased that -“
Yes

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:44:13pm

re: #320 Great White Snark

And once again fairly pissed at California being so damn late in the primary process. WTH were they thinking? IOWA? Serously/!

How screwed would the donald be by an early California primary?

Yeah I don’t get why the first two states in the nation that have a primary and caucus don’t represent the nation at all at large. California I think more than any other state does. I’ve heard some propose a national primary where the primary would be held on one day. Don’t know about that. In the past, there weren’t primaries and the parties just nominated whoever the bosses decided on at the conventions. No doubt you’re familair with talk about the cigar smoke filled room of old men.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:44:26pm

Just saw my mother liked a news link that says Indiana has passed a law forbidding able-bodied adults from collecting food stamps if they have no children. What the hell, fish country.

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mroop  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:45:24pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior I can tell you from just taking one paralegal class, getting your JD is no easy accomplishment and definitely takes intellect

Any moron of average intelligence can get a JD and pass the bar. You do have to put some time in, but the level of difficulty is a myth that lawyers are more than happy to propagate. I passed the bar on my first shot 20 years after law school and I was woefully unprepared.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:46:15pm

re: #326 Belafon

I’ll entertain.

No. But not because they’re too far apart politically. They’re about as far apart politically as pages 640 and 642 in the book I’m reading.

It wouldn’t work because he doesn’t gain her much as VP and it would be better if he’s in the senate. One of the Castros in Texas would be a much better fit for either of them.

She needs to go with someone younger as a running mate. Agree about the Castro bros being a good fit for either. The Southwest is the party’s future and it’s a region Obama did quite well in. Add a young, Hispanic guy like Julian Castro who has been mayor of a large city and currently administers a large cabinet department and I think that sets those wheels in motion. No idea but I definitely think the DNC sees him as a rising star or else they wouldn’t have given him the keynote.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:46:30pm

I love it when people tell you unsolicited who they’re not going to vote for.

I’m like that’s awesome for you but I didn’t ask and I don’t care because voting is personal and my plans don’t in the least bit hinge upon your plans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:46:51pm

re: #330 mroop

I can tell you from just taking one paralegal class, getting your JD is no easy accomplishment and definitely takes intellect

Any moron of average intelligence can get a JD and pass the bar. You do have to put some time in, but the level of difficulty is a myth that lawyers are more than happy to propagate. I passed the bar on my first shot 20 years after law school and I was woefully unprepared.

Fair enough. I am just saying that Kelly isn’t the “dumb bimbo” that she plays on T.V.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:47:29pm

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

I love it when people tell you unsolicited who they’re not going to vote for.

I’m like that’s awesome for you but I didn’t ask and I don’t care because voting is personal and my plans don’t in the least bit hinge upon your plans.

That’s facebook for ya. Political rants, baby photos, and falling for fake news.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:03pm

re: #308 KiTA

I don’t know you from Adam. That being said, I read some of your other comments and, putting it generously, you are spectacularly tone deaf and you keep digging in deeper. Out of curiosity…do you have an Aspergers diagnosis?

My two cents:

Apologize for any upset caused and give it a rest for tonight. Stay away from the topic when you see it come up. Folks here may prove a little more forgiving if you give them space to be forgiving.

That is all I will say about it.

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:08pm

re: #308 KiTA

Jesus, dude give it a fucking rest already.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:12pm

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

I love it when people tell you unsolicited who they’re not going to vote for.

I’m like that’s awesome for you but I didn’t ask and I don’t care because voting is personal and my plans don’t in the least bit hinge upon your plans.

QFT

Preach!

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:24pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

Disclosure: The only time in my life I was truly politically active was when Colorado tried to legalize cannabis in 2006. We’re talking gathering signatures, going to rallies, selling t-shirts. etc.

We lost that year. I became much less active politically. Now? It’s a face-to-face thing, individual, personal correspondence. I find that’s the most effective way of getting the right ideas across. Ask any church pastor.

Actually changing people’s minds about anything is probably a long, slow process. For activism, GOTV for your own side is likely to be most efficient, followed by appealing to genuinely undecided voters (although I have difficulty imagining how to communicate with such strange creatures).

Even with the daily drumbeat of failure and incompetence that marked the W Bush years, it still took me several years to see it for what it was.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:34pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:51pm

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:01pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

Don’t fucking comment on my comments asshole. Just don’t. You’re a neckbeard fuckhole piece of shit. Fuck off.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:17pm

I really think Hillary has to pick a younger Hispanic VP. This would piss Trump off to no end.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:36pm

re: #329 thedopefishlives

Just saw my mother liked a news link that says Indiana has passed a law forbidding able-bodied adults from collecting food stamps if they have no children. What the hell, fish country.

Agh I felt the same when I saw one of my good friends strongly support “drug test the welfare recipients.” I also haven’t seen it but my brother says he buys the crap about putting down minimum wage workers and I’ll give my friend credit, he’s been very successful in his career with only a high school degree but he like everyone who has had success has had some good luck too. Not that he hasn’t worked hard, I know first hand how hard he has since I stayed at his place and saw him working odd hours but a little empathy would be nice.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:58pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get why the first two states in the nation that have a primary and caucus don’t represent the nation at all at large. California I think more than any other state does. I’ve heard some propose a national primary where the primary would be held on one day. Don’t know about that. In the past, there weren’t primaries and the parties just nominated whoever the bosses decided on at the conventions. No doubt you’re familair with talk about the cigar smoke filled room of old men.

The primary needed to walk across the nation from when horses carried the results. Hellooo 21st century calling, er texting.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:20pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

Honestly, not so much. Their political opponents might make a few cheap puns, especially if said political candidate is a Democrat; but generally, most negative name recognition in the US comes from US politics. Unless your name was, say, Stalin, that guy’d be right out.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:24pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get why the first two states in the nation that have a primary and caucus don’t represent the nation at all at large. California I think more than any other state does. I’ve heard some propose a national primary where the primary would be held on one day. Don’t know about that. In the past, there weren’t primaries and the parties just nominated whoever the bosses decided on at the conventions. No doubt you’re familair with talk about the cigar smoke filled room of old men.

One of the better plans I’ve seen put forward is by the Assn. of Secretary of States. This is how I remember it, as best I can. That there would be 5 or so primaries, each one made of a mix of randomly assigned large / medium and small states. They would be 2 weeks or so apart, and Iowa and NH would keep their positions as 1st and 2nd. (They are good places for a possibly less well know candidate to make a show.)

I may have some of the small details wrong, but that was the gist of it.

RBS

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:34pm

re: #322 b.d.

Trump should release his investigators findings regarding Obama being born in Kenya.

WHY WON’T TRUMP RELEASE HIS FINDINGS!?!?

Because they are being held by the same brilliant scholars who insist the 14th Amendment doesn’t cover non-white kids born in the US…

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:40pm

re: #330 mroop

I can tell you from just taking one paralegal class, getting your JD is no easy accomplishment and definitely takes intellect

Any moron of average intelligence can get a JD and pass the bar. You do have to put some time in, but the level of difficulty is a myth that lawyers are more than happy to propagate. I passed the bar on my first shot 20 years after law school and I was woefully unprepared.

The LSAT to get into law school is effectively an intelligence test. The state bar exams aren’t —— they test knowledge of state level legal procedures. Oddly enough, those procedures aren’t taught in law school, so separate bar review courses are usually needed.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:09pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

Pluses of being a young, popular Hispanic candidate outweigh the minuses (same family name only significant to hyper-conservatives).

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:17pm

re: #308 KiTA

DID I STUTTER, ASSHOLE?

Don’t fucking comment on my comments asshole. Just don’t. You’re a neckbeard fuckhole piece of shit. Fuck off.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:29pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

The news report said 50,000 Hoosiers were scrambling to find jobs because their benefits will be revoked this October. That’s a disaster trying to happen.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:43pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

Littlest bit. Those who would care aren’t ever voting Dem. Might rally the faithful Birchers, but they’re not in play.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:57pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

A fair question especially in light of the new deal with Cuba. I honestly don’t think so because Cuba isn’t the boogeyman it once was but I could definitely see some right wing shitheads in the RNC and their media allies trying to liken Julian and Joaquin to Fidel and Raul. But remember, Obama’s middle name is Hussein and it didn’t really effect him that badly except with bigots who weren’t going to vote for him anyhow and Obama sounding a little like Osama.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:16pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

I’ve wondered why a Dick and a Bush being in the White House was never joked about.

//

Seriously, though, a B Hussein O made it.

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:41pm

re: #300 teleskiguy

You folks don’t need to tell me how to talk to my friends about the 2016 election. I appreciate the help, I think I can handle it. The fucking election is in

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I’ve got plenty of time to talk politics with my Berniac friends.

Maybe I misunderstood you…If they’re your friends IRL or just real good internet buddies, then you wouldn’t want to be all crass and tell them what I said.

My apologies.

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calochortus  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:55pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

Not in any area with historical Hispanic populations. Castro is a perfectly respectable last name and there are Castro Streets scattered about in various communities.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:58pm

re: #344 Great White Snark

The primary needed to walk across the nation from when horses carried the results. Hellooo 21st century calling, er texting.

Yeah I agree, it’s outdated. Good luck convincing the governors of Iowa and New Hampshire no matter what party is governing to get rid of them though since that’s big money for their state that they wouldn’t get otherwise.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:53:04pm

Thanks, everyone - makes sense.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:53:14pm

re: #308 KiTA

Took me a bit but I have tried to answer with direct examples instead of links to places that you might find tweak the knee jerk reaction.

I will say that taking the literal definition that you were given is the equivalent of taking the Tea Party caricature of the Democrat party platform as gospel.

I think that on this issue in particular some of the subcultures you have associated with have not done you any favors.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:53:33pm

re: #354 Belafon

I’ve wondered why a Dick and a Bush being in the White House was never joked about.

//

Seriously, though, a B Hussein O made it.

Hahha now you know how I felt when I saw Dick Armey made a joke about Barney Frank’s name. It’s like dude, did you look at your driver’s license when you made that joke?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:54:05pm

re: #355 TedStriker

Maybe I misunderstood you…If they’re you’re friends IRL or good internet buddies with then, then you wouldn’t want to be all crass and tell them what I said.

My apologies.

It’s all good. :) Matter of fact I’m talking about people I know IRL. So there’s hope yet!

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:54:54pm

Okay now it’s the internet and we all need a thick skin. But dammit this place is an oasis from the worst of it, really rare that we fight nasty here.

May we please keep it truly rare? Step back, inhale have a cool drink on me. Just a humble lizards request to the angry.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:24pm

re: #362 Great White Snark

Okay now it’s the internet and we all need a thick skin. But dammit this place is an oasis from the worst of it, really rare that we fight nasty here.

May we please keep it truly rare? Step back, inhale have a cool drink on me. Just a humble lizards request to the angry.

Motion seconded.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:34pm

re: #362 Great White Snark

That is a good idea.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:56pm

This cockamamie blather some Koch sucking strategist cooked up for Walker is brilliant! I mean, look how he is DOMINATING the news cycle!

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TedStriker  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:05pm

re: #342 GlutenFreeJesus

I really think Hillary has to pick a younger Hispanic VP. This would piss Trump off to no end.

One of the Castro brothers would fill that bill nicely.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:18pm

I did not want to throw around a bunch of invective on the internet like I did a few days ago with a pro-life scumbag on Twitter. Yet I can’t help myself because KiTA is a woman hating scumbag.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:43pm

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And on that topic I am out at this point, because I’ve hit my limit on a physical level. I appreciate the willingness to listen you expressed, KiTA, and I hope that something of what I’ve said might make some sense. If not, well, I have tried.

I am definitely voting in favor of cat pictures now.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:57:10pm

re: #365 bratwurst

This cockamamie blather some Koch sucking strategist cooked up for Walker is brilliant! I mean, look how he is DOMINATING the news cycle!

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Someone responded to Walker asking him if he was cancelling his trade trip coming up….to China.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:57:20pm

re: #365 bratwurst

Walker’s next stunt should be shooting himself in the foot. Makes as much sense.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:03pm

re: #339 Nyet

It will probably sound as a dumb question, and it probably is, but we’re talking American politics, so here goes: is having the last name “Castro” a political minus (for obvious reasons)?

Because people will assume he’s named after a gay neighborhood in San Francisco?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:18pm

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Cat pix sounds good.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:54pm

re: #362 Great White Snark

Okay now it’s the internet and we all need a thick skin. But dammit this place is an oasis from the worst of it, really rare that we fight nasty here.

May we please keep it truly rare? Step back, inhale have a cool drink on me. Just a humble lizards request to the angry.

Noted. *breathing deep* (no really, I am!)

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thedopefishlives  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:59:27pm

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And on that topic I am out at this point, because I’ve hit my limit on a physical level. I appreciate the willingness to listen you expressed, KiTA, and I hope that something of what I’ve said might make some sense. If not, well, I have tried.

I am definitely voting in favor of cat pictures now.

Any thread is a good thread for cats. And on that note, I, too, am out - long week ahead, only half over, yada yada, peace, love, and for the love of FSM, put away the flamethrowers. Asbestos scale suits are getting harder to replace every year.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:00:39pm

re: #372 PhillyPretzel

Cat pix sounds good.

Ask and…

Calm cat is calm.
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:00:51pm

I can only think of one thing that can stop Trump: a major stroke. With all that flying around he’s doing increasing his chances for deep vein thrombosis, one can only hope.

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calochortus  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:01:40pm

So, totally off topic, but I’ve been wandering around FR a bit (it’s been totally boring lately, but I digress.) It seems like the grift-a-thons are following extremely similar patterns from quarter to quarter, and lasting longer than they used to. I’m not quite interested enough to track and compare them, but it seems that they generally “reach their goal” in the second week of the third month. I wouldn’t think it would be all that consistent.
Could it be that people are tiring of supporting the site?

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:01:46pm

re: #373 teleskiguy

Noted. *breathing deep* (no really, I am!)

Thank you.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:02:08pm

re: #375 Great White Snark

That looks like a very happy cat. :)

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:04:31pm

I have three sisters, no brothers. I only have one male cousin. There’s a lot of women in my family. When I listen to a guy like KiTA talk about fake rape and other such nonsense, I get angry.

Apologies, Lizards.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:04:50pm
Taken over the course of 3 weeks, travelling from St Petersburg to Hong Kong via Ulan Bataar and Beijing.

Between March and April, 2015, my partner and I travelled over 10,000km. We covered one quarter of the way around the planet, the vast majority by train. Using a small, second hand digital camera and a sticky camera mount, I recorded the majority of the train journeys.

What you see is over 200GB of footage, shrunk into a single image using a technique known as slitscan. Every frame, I take the middle column of pixels and concatenate it to the image. Each vertical column of pixels represents 1/30th of a second. This adds up into a huge strip, which is then cut and pasted into a more pleasing rectangle.

archive.section9.co.uk

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:07:13pm

re: #375 Great White Snark

Ask and…

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Ahh Pepper! For once we don’t get to see his beady yellow eyes.

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CleverToad  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:07:40pm

re: #373 teleskiguy

Try not to inhale too much of the wildfire smoke, though. It’s bad enough down here in Denver, imagine it’s worse on your side of the Divide.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:08:22pm

re: #342 GlutenFreeJesus

I really think Hillary has to pick a younger Hispanic VP. This would piss Trump off to no end.

What I fear is a Trump/Cruz ticket. That scares the #2 out of me!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:08:26pm

re: #346 Reality Based Steve

One of the better plans I’ve seen put forward is by the Assn. of Secretary of States. This is how I remember it, as best I can. That there would be 5 or so primaries, each one made of a mix of randomly assigned large / medium and small states. They would be 2 weeks or so apart, and Iowa and NH would keep their positions as 1st and 2nd. (They are good places for a possibly less well know candidate to make a show.)

I may have some of the small details wrong, but that was the gist of it.

RBS

That’s an interesting idea.

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ninja cat  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:08:46pm

re: #372 PhillyPretzel

Cat pix sounds good.

I told her Trump is leading in polls. Gets her every time.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:10:09pm

re: #383 CleverToad

Try not to inhale too much of the wildfire smoke, though. It’s bad enough down here in Denver, imagine it’s worse on your side of the Divide.

It is worse. On some days you can’t even see a mountain range that’s 20 miles away. Today wasn’t that bad but it was hazy nonetheless. Next few days should be nice, we’re supposed to get some rain, so that’ll clear the air for a minute. I’ve also read that the haze is here to stay until the fires in the PNW go out.

*sigh*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:10:20pm

re: #369 #FergusonFireside

Someone responded to Walker asking him if he was cancelling his trade trip coming up….to China.

Someone should ask him whose hand is up his ass the most, Charles or David Koch and do they go lefty or righty but seriously the guy has no fucking shame or honesty.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:10:37pm

re: #384 Joe Bacon

What I fear is a Trump/Cruz ticket. That scares the #2 out of me!

The shits gonna hit the fan

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:11:36pm

re: #384 Joe Bacon

What I fear is a Trump/Cruz ticket. That scares the #2 out of me!

I see Cruz has been kissing Trump’s ass a lot. Could be a vain attempt to lock up the number two. Who knows who Donald would pick.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:12:34pm

This much I do know, Trump would win more states than McGovern, Mondale, and probably Dukakis too combined. That legitimately saddens me since those three were far better men and equipped to lead the country than Donald ever would be.

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b_sharp  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:12:55pm

re: #381 Nyet

archive.section9.co.uk

That’s a lot of work.

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Great White Snark  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:13:25pm

re: #381 Nyet

archive.section9.co.uk

That’s interestig. Very I Spy kinda look. As if shot with the camera in a cigarette pack from a 60’s thriller.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:13:56pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

This much I do know, Trump would win more states than McGovern, Mondale, and probably Dukakis too combined. That legitimately saddens me since those three were far better men and equipped to lead the country than Donald ever would be.

I am still wondering how Dukakis riding around in an M40 Duster AAA tank destroyed him so thoroughly.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:16:17pm

re: #381 Nyet

archive.section9.co.uk

That is seriously cool.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:16:22pm

re: #394 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am still wondering how Dukakis riding around in an M40 Duster AAA tank destroyed him so thoroughly.

I think it’s because Dukakis is such a little guy but I was just a newborn during that campaign so I really can’t speculate too much. He looked weird in it but as I’ve pointed out, Dukakis was a Korean War veteran. Now I don’t know if he saw combat or not but he did serve his country in uniform during that conflict unlike the man in charge of the campaign that put him down, some guy named Roger, he runs some network that has the name of a canine. Weasel News? Maybe it will come to me.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:17:45pm

re: #381 Nyet

archive.section9.co.uk

Zooming in a few levels gets you some pretty interesting images.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:18:44pm

re: #381 Nyet

Need to view that in the morning. ‘Nite, all.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:20:15pm

So we are now at the point of political degeneracy where at least 2 Presidential candidates are saying “Fuck it!” and proposing we have a Helot social class just like the Spartans dd during the Peloponnesian War.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said on Sunday that the concept of birthright citizenship is illogical given America’s struggles with rising illegal immigration.

“I think birthright citizenship as a policy matter doesn’t make sense,” the GOP presidential candidate told host John Dickerson on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“We have right now upwards of 12 million people living here illegally,” he said. “It doesn’t make any sense that our law automatically grants citizenship to their children, because what it does is it incentivizes additional illegal immigration.”

GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump started a national debate over birthright citizenship by calling for an end to the practice last weekend.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:21:27pm

re: #394 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am still wondering how Dukakis riding around in an M40 Duster AAA tank destroyed him so thoroughly.

It was an M1 Tank, and it was more the Bush ad featuring it than actually riding in it
Michael Dukakis The Tank Ad 1988

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:24:29pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. I am just saying that Kelly isn’t the “dumb bimbo” that she plays on T.V.

Same with Gretchen Carlson. She’s beyond ignorant in Fox. She’s a “beauty queen” type mope …who also has a JD and if I recall was something like a Rhode Scholar (not sure if it’s that exactly but something along those lines).

Fix requires blonde vapidity.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:26:27pm

re: #342 GlutenFreeJesus

I really think Hillary has to pick a younger Hispanic VP. This would piss Trump off to no end.

That alone would be worth it. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:27:07pm

re: #399 Aunty Entity Dragon

So we are now at the point of political degeneracy where at least 2 Presidential candidates are saying “Fuck it!” and proposing we have a Helot social class just like the Spartans dd during the Peloponnesian War.

Says the guy who is eligible to run for president because you guessed it birthright citizenship. Take yourself out of the running for president if you feel birthright citizenship is that wrong then Ted. You too Bobby Jindal. And he wants to talk about illegal immigration. He’s from the demographic group that has an extremely no pun intended liberal immigration policy. I don’t oppose the wet foot policy on principle but I do think it’s a double standard to Cuban exiles and all exiles should be afforded a similar luxury.

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DobermanBoston  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:27:41pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I think it’s because Dukakis is such a little guy but I was just a newborn during that campaign so I really can’t speculate too much. He looked weird in it but as I’ve pointed out, Dukakis was a Korean War veteran. Now I don’t know if he saw combat or not but he did serve his country in uniform during that conflict unlike the man in charge of the campaign that put him down, some guy named Roger, he runs some network that has the name of a canine. Weasel News? Maybe it will come to me.

In the pre-Clinton era military service of some sort was a de facto prerequisite for a presidential candidacy. So everyone knew Dukakis was a vet going into that. The Willie Horton thing, first used by Gore in the primary, really hurt him.

The financial woes that were worsening here in MA, though not wholly his fault, didn’t help either. It was bad, but nothing compared to what’s going on in Christie or Jindal’s states now, and WI could become a real mess between now and November 16 too. I don’t think sitting governors are the unicorns they are cracked up to be, frankly. So much can go wrong in a state….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:28:47pm

re: #401 WhatEVs

Same with Gretchen Carlson. She’s beyond ignorant in Fox. She’s a “beauty queen” type mope …who also has a JD and if I recall was something like a Rhode Scholar (not sure if it’s that exactly but something along those lines).

Fix requires blonde vapidity.

I think both these women and indeed many of the young women you see on Fox are a product. They could probably contribute intelligently if they were on MSNBC or even CNN but I think Fox offers more money because I think there’s a big market for this sort of thing. I am sure Megyn, Gretchen are definitely conservative in their outlook but I don’t believe that they believe much of the crap they say on television at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:30:32pm

re: #404 DobermanBoston

In the pre-Clinton era military service of some sort was a de facto prerequisite for a presidential candidacy. So everyone knew Dukakis was a vet going into that. The Willie Horton thing, first used by Gore in the primary, really hurt him.

The financial woes that were worsening here in MA, though not wholly his fault, didn’t help either. It was bad, but nothing compared to what’s going on in Christie or Jindal’s states now, and WI could become a real mess between now and November 16 too. I don’t think sitting governors are the unicorns they are cracked up to be, frankly. So much can go wrong in a state….

Well as I said, I was just a little kid. You make a good point about military service. Clinton was definitely unique in that he had none. I think he was the first president elect since FDR to have none at all. Now what’s interesting heh is FDR’s immediate five predecessors: Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, and Taft had none. Appreciate your insight.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:31:20pm

re: #400 FormerDirtDart

It was an M1 Tank, and it was more the Bush ad featuring it than actually riding in it
[Embedded content]

My bad. In my memory, it was an old M40. the NM National Guard still had a unit of them at the time.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:41:27pm

One of the very cool things about LGF is that we self-police each other to a degree where the comments section is palatable for normal people.

With that said, I don’t take any of my nasty remarks that I made tonight back. Lizards are good at isolating bullshit and mercilessly mocking said bullshit. I was doing that tonight, though I was more mean-spirited than is acceptable around these parts. I stand by all of it. Men’s Rights Activist and GamerGater opinions are not fucking welcome here. If you espouse these points of view you will get unrelenting scorn from me. This is fair warning.

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DobermanBoston  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:42:47pm

re: #406 HappyWarrior
Yes, Clinton was the first winning major party candidate since FDR who didn’t serve.

Of the losers Dewey and Stevenson also didn’t serve, but that was it until Willard “Mitt” Romney in 2012.

My guess is it was mostly a demographic thing, the all-encompassing nature of WWII, etc.

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mroop  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:49:38pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. I am just saying that Kelly isn’t the “dumb bimbo” that she plays on T.V.

I agree that she’s not a dumb bimbo by any stretch. Today my friend agreed that she has a big head. And googling “Megyn Kelly has a big head.” brought up this poll.

topix.com

I knew it! Megyn Kelly has a big encephalitic head!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:51:05pm

re: #345 thedopefishlives

Honestly, not so much. Their political opponents might make a few cheap puns, especially if said political candidate is a Democrat; but generally, most negative name recognition in the US comes from US politics. Unless your name was, say, Stalin, that guy’d be right out.

But “Steel” would be a good strong Republican name.

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DobermanBoston  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:55:35pm

Shocking I know but Kelly’s first name ending in “gyn” has occasioned some vulgar puns and “humor” on the political sites, following tonight’s revisiting of her beef with Trump.

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mroop  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:00:37pm

re: #348 EPR-radar

The LSAT to get into law school is effectively an intelligence test. The state bar exams aren’t —— they test knowledge of state level legal procedures. Oddly enough, those procedures aren’t taught in law school, so separate bar review courses are usually needed.

I took the Barbri course on cd. On the multiple choice it was 100 questions in the morning and the same in the afternoon. I guessed on the last 20 or 30 in both sessions - didn’t even have time to read them. On the essays, I think they’re more concerned with how you construct your response rather than how much law you know. They want to see if you can put together sentences and paragraphs and do an analysis.

I took my LSAT’s on 3 hours sleep and I was high. I was in the 74th percentile, but somewhere in the upper 90s when I factored out the logic games section - that’s really math and not my best area. I actually calculated my score without the logic games section because I was so freaked out about my poor showing. Too funny, but it shook me up at the time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:02:35pm

re: #413 mroop

I took the Barbri course on cd. On the multiple choice it was 100 questions in the morning and the same in the afternoon. I guessed on the last 20 or 30 in both sessions - didn’t even have time to read them. On the essays, I think they’re more concerned with how you construct your response rather than how much law you know. They want to see if you can put together sentences and paragraphs and do an analysis.

I took my LSAT’s on 3 hours sleep and I was high. I was in the 74th percentile, but somewhere in the upper 90s when I factored out the logic games section - that’s really math and not my best area. I actually calculated my score without the logic games section because I was so freaked out about my poor showing. Too funny, but it shook me up at the time.

When I did my GREs for grad school, a perfect score on the math section got me 94th percentile.

(This means I can do geometry. Or rather, that I re-studied geometry for the GRE and have promptly forgotten it all again.)

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:49:28pm

re: #266 EPR-radar

Meanwhile, David Brooks will try to paper over this bit of thuggery with more of his both-siderist bullshit. It is so clear that most of these pundits and columnists hold their jobs only because they say and write things the plutocrats like.

And Bill Kristol will come up with some more “dark horse” October surprise possibilities to add to his list that already includes the intellectual stylings of Paul Ryan, the impressive Tom Cotton, those dynamos Trey Gowdy and Jim Jordan, and the irrepressible Samuel Alito.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:53:10pm

re: #278 Nyet

Some people who won’t get Bernie will just vote for Jill Stein.
They were never gonna vote for anyone mainstream other than Bernie.

Then they are assholes. As was mentioned above, judicial appointments are a big enough concern that anyone with half a brain should vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee.

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DobermanBoston  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:56:37pm

re: #415 BeachDem

And Bill Kristol will come up with some more “dark horse” October surprise possibilities to add to his list that already includes the intellectual stylings of Paul Ryan, the impressive Tom Cotton, those dynamos Trey Gowdy and Jim Jordan, and the irrepressible Samuel Alito.

HAHAHAHAHA!

I read that column the other day. Stammering Ryan, the best on his list besides Daniels, was barely adequate as a veep pick.

But at least Kristol is tacitly admitting that GOP 16 is not, in fact, a deep bench.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 26, 2015 • 4:26:32am

Trump’s candidacy is horrifying to the Koch Bros/Fox News cable cabal.

He simply exposes the naked Id and ugliness amongst the high percentage of Republicans/Conservatives who subscribe to certain blatantly racist beliefs. He also traffics openly with hardcore craziness completely detached from the actual US Constitution and certain SCOTUS decisions.

Let us not forget that in his personal life he is also a fringe conspiracy nut, immune inoculations nutcore subscriber , serial philanderer, is proudly hostile to women, and a “camel through the eye of the needle” type of wealthy puke that a certain person in Christian mythology despised according to several Biblical statements.

No wonder he’s so popular among the seriously deranged 25% of this country.

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Agnostick  Aug 26, 2015 • 8:04:01am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

I’m sorry, but, why? I’d bet at least some of those reporters also wanted Ramos to sit down, shut up, and politely wait his turn. There’s a certain amount of decorum that is expected, and Ramos was not following protocol. If Ramos had acted like that during a post-competition press conference for any major sporting league (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, PGA, NCAA)… we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

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palomino  Aug 26, 2015 • 8:35:52pm

re: #419 Agnostick

I’m sorry, but, why? I’d bet at least some of those reporters also wanted Ramos to sit down, shut up, and politely wait his turn. There’s a certain amount of decorum that is expected, and Ramos was not following protocol. If Ramos had acted like that during a post-competition press conference for any major sporting league (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, PGA, NCAA)… we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

Sorry to hear your delicate sense of decorum was disrupted by hearing one man speak out of turn. Hopefully your fainting couch was nearby.

As for the sports press conference analogy, it’s worthless. When athletes and coaches start discussing plans for deporting 12 million people (or anything else of real importance), maybe such a comparison will mean something. For a rude vile pig like Trump to criticize the manners of others is a huge joke, a TV reality show prank. Maybe at some point you’ll no longer be standing on the outside of the joke.


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