Former SC GOP Head Todd Kincannon’s Law License Suspended by Supreme Court After “Major Meltdown”

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Todd Kincannon (Source: Lexington County Detention Center)

One of the most horrible right wing lunatics ever to be permanently banned from Twitter, Todd Kincannon, former executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party, just had his license to practice law suspended by the South Carolina Supreme Court after suffering a “major meltdown” during a court appearance this week.

And that’s not all; according to wingnut site Fitsnews, Kincannon has been committed to a mental health facility in Columbia after sending multiple emails containing threatening language and disturbing images.

Images like this one. (Hidden by default because, well, it’s disturbing and probably NSFW.)

Kincannon’s meltdown began last April when he was arrested for criminal domestic violence, after an altercation with his wife turned very ugly.

(h/t: @RoryBBellows1)

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319 comments
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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:29:24pm

I’ll agree with the last line:

We hope he gets the help he needs …

How many other twitter RWNJs are ticking timebombs like this? Horrifying.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:30:42pm

He shares a “look” with Chuck C & Erick Erickson.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:32:42pm

South Carolina has more than double the homicide rate for women than the rest of the country. I hope Todd’s wife isn’t near him.

If you haven’t read the Charleston Post & Courier’s Pulitzer Prize-winning series Till Death Do Us Part, set aside some time to read it. Be warned, it’s heartbreaking as all hell.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:34:49pm

Karma. I cannot and will not say anything nice, so I will not say anything except that photo is a scream for help and thankfully he did not shoot anyone, himself included.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:36:36pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

He shares a “look” with Chuck C & Erick Erickson.

And an attitude, a philosophy, a theology, and a gunsmith.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:38:02pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

And an attitude, a philosophy, a theology, and a gunsmith.

Real men pack. And show. And threaten.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:38:36pm

re: #6 nines09

Real men pack. And show. And threaten.

In a devout sort of way.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:38:37pm

I hope he can be helped, too. I don’t want anyone to suffer, not even creepazoids like Kincannon. But I’m not very optimistic about it, given his history.

Anyone close to him would be well-advised to take serious precautions at this point.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:40:18pm

It’s pretty hard to keep someone locked up, if there’s a pill for it. Keeping someone on their meds is a bit of a glitch in the system..

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nines09  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:41:19pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

In a devout sort of way.

Yes. There is a proper way to do it. Regionally it may vary slightly, but revolvers do have a proper way of being shown and held. It’s like sign language. snark tag forgotten….

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:42:08pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I was thinking that the man taking over his accounts should get a bodyguard and a lawyer.

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:42:26pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

It’s pretty hard to keep someone locked up, if there’s a pill for it. Keeping someone on their meds is a bit of a glitch in the system..

You know, they have those time release birth control implants… why can’t they do the same thing with other meds?

Of course then there’s the whole thing about how hard it is to get the dosage right on certain meds et all, how the dosage might need to be changed, etc etc. Hm.

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Mattand  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:44:16pm

Well, the fine folks at Fitsnews and their readers seem like awful people.

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:44:26pm
As politically incorrect provocateurs ourselves, this website has always appreciated Kincannon’s role in the marketplace of ideas - even when we haven’t agreed with him. Unfortunately, it’s becoming increasingly clear to us that he’s got some real issues that need addressing
Read more at fitsnews.com
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Mattand  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:45:41pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

OMG! That’s the quote that inspired my comment!

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:47:58pm

Bit of Meta here, but instead of donotlink, consider archive.is. archive.is makes a copy of the entire page, including say, the comments section et all, which means if they go back and purge the nasty comments or edit the article to make it less insane, you still have evidence. Donotlink just steals them Google relevancy, they can still edit it later.

For example:
archive.is

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:48:31pm

Kincannon is the symptom. The disease is the shared mindset that made him the leader of a local political machine and a widespread Internet lynchmob.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:50:43pm

re: #15 Mattand

OMG! That’s the quote that inspired my comment!

Hey Matt, OT, but maybe you’d be interested.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:51:59pm

re: #13 Mattand

Well, the fine folks at Fitsnews and their readers seem like awful people.

That’s why I used donotlink to link to them. They actually liked Todd Kincannon when he was spewing virulent racist comments on Twitter.

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Mattand  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:54:37pm

re: #18 #CampaignZero

Hey Matt, OT, but maybe you’d be interested.

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Cool! Thanks, I’ll check it out.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:55:11pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

That’s why I used donotlink to link to them. They actually liked Todd Kincannon when he was spewing virulent racist comments on Twitter.

Well, donotlink said most users had rated them “nonsense”—I clicked “dangerous”. Maybe if enough people do that we can move the needle.

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scottslemmons  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:55:26pm

The guy has clearly had some major mental/emotional issues for a long time. His acting-out on Twitter was just a symptom.

Sometimes, the meds work, and the treatment works, and the patient can step back from the brink and restart his life. It’d be nice if this happens.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:57:58pm

Todd Kincannon has been described as a “Traditional Christian” man who embraces patriarchy.

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:59:10pm

re: #15 Mattand

Great minds think alike and so do we.

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Mattand  Aug 29, 2015 • 6:59:59pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

That’s why I used donotlink to link to them. They actually liked Todd Kincannon when he was spewing virulent racist comments on Twitter.

The “We’re politically incorrect” chest thumping and the “Hey, Todd’s not such a bad guy” statement were red flags.

But the commenters?

Ohhhh, the commenters…

That’s a fine crop of assholes they’ve got growing there.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:01:06pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Todd Kincannon has been described as a “Traditional Christian” man who embraces patriarchy.

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You never know if it’s wingnut welfare or real. Or both. Paid to be a psychopath.

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:02:57pm

re: #25 Mattand

Am I allowed to take some hope in that some of the commenters seem to REALLY hate Trump?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:03:47pm

‘Nite, All.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:08:49pm

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:11:47pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

“Lived in same state as Sandra Bland,” too.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:11:59pm

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:12:53pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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They both ate Big Macs, Fries and a Medium Coke for lunch. /proof

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:13:14pm

Another interesting crack in the Republican Base.

What The Republican Elite Doesn’t Understand About Donald Trump, In One Ridiculous Tweet

A Pew poll conducted in 2013 found that just 21% of Republicans favored cuts in Medicare. A higher percentage (24%) favored an increase in Medicare spending. The findings for Social Security were even more dramatic. Just 17% of Republicans favored Social Security spending cuts while 35% favored an increase.
Even among very conservative voters, support for entitlement spending is high. A 2014 Pew poll found that among “consistently conservative” Americans, 59% wanted to maintain current Social Security benefits. Only 38% favored reductions.
Support for any kind of reduction in Social Security benefit is not much higher among very conservative people (38%) than liberals (32%), according to the Pew poll.
Trump clearly understands that. Bill Kristol and Republican elites do not.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:21:16pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

And everyone has a place and everyone can and should be reminded of what that place is? If words don’t work…..Maybe Todd was going to beat himself up? Did a good job.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:27:49pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Todd Kincannon has been described as a “Traditional Christian” man who embraces patriarchy.

And that’s exactly what he is. A throwback. A guy who internalized the horrible racism and misogyny that’s part of South Carolina’s history, and is now in a state of rage because the world is evolving away from those dark days, and his internal world view is falling apart.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:28:06pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Gear is loaded in the car, check-lists are checked, everything is ready to go. Going to get some “bubble-therapy” tomorrow.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:30:27pm

You are better people than I am. That’s all I’ll say about this.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:32:26pm

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Kragar  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:36:57pm

Todd Kincannon is a SWAT standoff waiting to happen.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:37:50pm

I’m surprised more people aren’t comparing Trump’s surprising run to ole’ Ross Perot, back in 1992. I think it was much the same trend — rich, straight-shooter, says he’ll fix things in Washington by bypassing the politics with his business acumen. The not-so-subtext being that fixing things is easy, but the political elite are too corrupt and wimpy to get it done.

Of course, the big difference between now and then is now badly the right-wing, nativist problem has metastasized. And Ross Perot, for all his craziness, was a genius compared to Trump’s lunacy. And Perot had a pretty inspired pick for his VP — not just a war hero, but a professor (PhD?) of ancient philosophy (the anti-Palin).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:41:31pm

re: #37 Amory Blaine

You are better people than I am. That’s all I’ll say about this.

For hoping he’ll recover and be returned to society? Yeah—he’ll still be a horrible right-wing dickbag. At least this way there’s one of them locked up. Will me being a better person make him a better person? Doubtful.

Since my saying this will have exactly zero effect, I say: “Lock ‘em all up!” There. I feel better, nobody (except Todd) is locked up—it’s all good.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:46:37pm

re: #11 Romantic Heretic

I meant body armour not a lawyer.

Sometimes my brain and my hands have differing idea on what to say.

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nines09  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:50:38pm

re: #37 Amory Blaine

You are better people than I am. That’s all I’ll say about this.

I use the phrases “fall down a flight of stairs” and “through a plate glass window” sometimes. Todd just did that. To himself. Something apparently came home to roost. No need to gloat on my end. I find comfort in the fact he fell after all the hate he embraced. Head of a GOP anything? That’s the scary part.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:52:22pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:55:45pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:55:58pm

re: #40 LastYearsMan

I’m surprised more people aren’t comparing Trump’s surprising run to ole’ Ross Perot, back in 1992. I think it was much the same trend — rich, straight-shooter, says he’ll fix things in Washington by bypassing the politics with his business acumen. The not-so-subtext being that fixing things is easy, but the political elite are too corrupt and wimpy to get it done.

Of course, the big difference between now and then is now badly the right-wing, nativist problem has metastasized. And Ross Perot, for all his craziness, was a genius compared to Trump’s lunacy. And Perot had a pretty inspired pick for his VP — not just a war hero, but a professor (PhD?) of ancient philosophy (the anti-Palin).

Yeah, I had no idea who Stockdale was at the time—I just remembered Phil Hartman basically doing Frankenstein without “Bread Good—Fire Bad!”

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Mattand  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:56:25pm

re: #27 KiTA

Am I allowed to take some hope in that some of the commenters seem to REALLY hate Trump?

LOL, just pure uncut “Obama’s the REAL tyrant/murderer/meanie!” idiocy, from what I saw.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:58:34pm

re: prvthrd #142 Nyet

Much like Lot, the “righteous” man in Sodom. Offers his daughters up to a sex-crazed mob to protect the man-angels who come to his house, but he’s “righteous”. Oh, but his wife gets turned into a pillar of salt “for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder”, as Seth Andrews puts it.

Biblical “morality”.

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Kragar  Aug 29, 2015 • 7:59:21pm

Hit a gamer swap meet today. Picked up $80 worth of new stuff for $25.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:00:33pm

re: #49 Kragar

Hit a gamer swap meet today. Picked up $80 worth of new stuff for $25.

Good deal. I always seem to pay 80 bucks for 25 bucks worth of stuff.

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:05:38pm

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:08:40pm

re: #49 Kragar

Hit a gamer swap meet today. Picked up $80 worth of new stuff for $25.

Wish I could manage that level of discount.

GASing something fierce for (yet another) guitar :D but the lack of the $800 keeps me honest. Still it’s like the love child of a Telecaster & a Les Paul and so cute…

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Kragar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:13:26pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Wish I could manage that level of discount.

GASing something fierce for (yet another) guitar :D but the lack of the $800 keeps me honest. Still it’s like the love child of a Telecaster & a Les Paul and so cute…

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Put together a couple of full sets from parts. I got a couple parts soaking in paint thinner right now while I prime the rest of the stuff.

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b_sharp  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:20:14pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Wish I could manage that level of discount.

GASing something fierce for (yet another) guitar :D but the lack of the $800 keeps me honest. Still it’s like the love child of a Telecaster & a Les Paul and so cute…

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I almost bought one years ago, but went with a Peavey Wolfgang instead. The Peavey bird’s eye maple neck is incredible.

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:30:31pm

I don’t hear a lot of Republicans jumping to Kincannon’s defense these days…sucks to be him.

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:31:33pm

Ooh…and check out the Pacific.

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:31:40pm

And off to the hotel. Hopefully the computers are working tonight; they were down all night last night and that was a royal pain to manually check in and out guests.

Later lizards.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:34:33pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Screw that Murder Tourist. His actions have nothing to do with Sandra Bland, and their only connection to BLM is that he may have used the movement as some justification for the cold-blooded murder he already wanted to commit and as a way to gain notoriety.

But this dirt-bag cop killer is nothing like Deray McKesson, he’s like that jackass former cop now awaiting trial for murdering Walter Scott: Both of them killed a man because they could.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:38:44pm

re: #55 darthstar

I don’t hear a lot of Republicans jumping to Kincannon’s defense these days…sucks to be him.

Well, I’ll say this: If he really has been involuntarily committed, I hope South Carolina has submitted his info to the FBI National Instant Check System as a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm for mental health reasons.

Some wingnuts might scream about that, but in a case like this is the right thing to do. A man with that kind of aberrant rage must be kept disarmed, both for his own good and that of others.

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:39:22pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Screw that Murder Tourist. His actions have nothing to do with Sandra Bland, and their only connection to BLM is that he may have used the movement as some justification for the cold-blooded murder he already wanted to commit and as a way to gain notoriety.

But this dirt-bag cop killer is nothing like Deray McKesson, he’s like that jackass former cop now awaiting trial for murdering Walter Scott: Both of them killed a man because they could.

Any connection to the Bureau of Land Mangement is strictly coincidental.
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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:39:49pm

re: #56 darthstar

Pucker up!

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:40:36pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Well, I’ll say this: If he really has been involuntarily committed, I hope North South Carolina has submitted his info to the FBI National Instant Check System as a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm for mental health reasons.

Some wingnuts might scream about that, but in a case like this is the right thing to do. A man with that kind of aberrant rage must be kept disarmed, both for his own good and that of others.

FTFY

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:40:40pm

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:42:11pm

re: #63 darthstar

Is that fake? No check mark? RealDonaldTrump?

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:42:19pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

FTFY

Thanks, I changed it to be correct.

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:44:41pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Well, I’ll say this: If he really has been involuntarily committed, I hope North Carolina has submitted his info to the FBI National Instant Check System as a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm for mental health reasons.

Some wingnuts might scream about that, but in a case like this is the right thing to do. A man with that kind of aberrant rage must be kept disarmed, both for his own good and that of others.

Oh, let him have a gun…what harm could he do? Guns don’t kill people! In fact, I’ll bet Dana Loesch has room on her couch for him.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:45:23pm

re: #64 retired cynic

Is that fake? No check mark? RealDonaldTrump?

It’s fake. Donald Trump has a verified account, so if that blue check mark isn’t there, its not from his account.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:45:44pm

re: #66 darthstar

SMACK!

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:45:59pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

Well, I can’t stand him at all, but surely he is not that stupid.

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WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:47:14pm

re: #64 retired cynic

Is that fake? No check mark? RealDonaldTrump?

Yeah. But funny.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:48:59pm

Next county east of me.

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:50:46pm

re: #64 retired cynic

Is that fake? No check mark? RealDonaldTrump?

Ah…the old capital I for L thing…I’ve been fooled again! Damn you, Internet!

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:50:56pm

re: #63 darthstar

Sadly, it’s a Poe.

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WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:52:05pm

That Trump Facebook account also has this.

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:53:36pm

Well, I got fooled, too. It’s FB, not twitter, right? So no check marks. And I was so proud! :^P

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blueraven  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:54:39pm

OMG. In the photo with the gun he reminds me of “Private Pyle” from Full Metal Jacket.

He needs help and I hope he gets it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:55:02pm

re: #72 darthstar

Ah…the old capital I for L thing…I’ve been fooled again! Damn you, Internet!

Sans-serif fonts are a Commie plot!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:55:32pm

re: #69 retired cynic

Well, I can’t stand him at all, but surely he is not that stupid.

CRAIG T. NELSON (5/28/2009): I’ve been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No.

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WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2015 • 8:57:52pm

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:09:54pm

Interesting use of a double-neck guitar -

FELIX MARTIN - “High Spirit” Official Track Stream

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William of Orange  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:10:22pm

This time Fitsnews’ article is more or less pretty balanced. Also, a genuinely good question in their comments: How the fuck does this lunatic still owns a weapon??!

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darthstar  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:10:26pm

I watched part of a football game tonight. Holy crap…I have to put up with seventeen more weeks of this choreographed spandex-wearing uber-padded gladiator crap? I wish we had rugby in this country.

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:23:34pm

re: #82 darthstar

Do what I do. Pray that we have an interesting baseball post-season that runs up close to college basketball.

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bratwurst  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:23:56pm

We have an important new entry into the growing field of Trumpology. Evan Osnos has just published a long New Yorker piece called “The Fearful and the Frustrated”, discussing Trump’s burgeoning white nationalist base.

When Trump leaped to the head of the Republican field, he delivered the appearance of legitimacy to a moral vision once confined to the fevered fringe, elevating fantasies from the message boards and campgrounds to the center stage of American life. In doing so, he pulled America into a current that is coursing through other Western democracies—Britain, France, Spain, Greece, Scandinavia—where xenophobic, nationalist parties have emerged since the 2008 economic crisis to besiege middle-ground politicians.

The whole thing is well worth a read.

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William Lewis  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:23:57pm

re: #82 darthstar

I watched part of a football game tonight. Holy crap…I have to put up with seventeen more weeks of this choreographed spandex-wearing uber-padded gladiator crap? I wish we had rugby in this country.

Watched Arsenal just squeak by Newcastle United via an own goal. The beautiful game makes it easy to forget American Football still exists.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:33:34pm

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:52:02pm

Duke University in the news again…

Duke University Students Reject Alison Bechdel’s Acclaimed Book “Fun Home” Over Gay Themes (Potential NSFW Warning: Beefcake)

“The nature of Fun Home means that content that I might have consented to read in print now violates my conscience due to its pornographic nature,” wrote student Jeffrey Wubbenhort to The Duke Chronicle.

I’m trying to figure that one out… So he might have consented to read it, but, now it’s offensive because the school gave him a free copy of it?

“I feel as if I would have to compromise my personal Christian moral beliefs to read it,” Brian Grasso, a freshman at the University, posted to Facebook. “Duke did not seem to have people like me in mind. It was like Duke didn’t know we existed, which surprises me.”

No, Mr. Grasso, I’m pretty sure they were DEFINITELY aware your type existed, which was kinda the whole point.

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:54:24pm

re: #25 Mattand

The “We’re politically incorrect” chest thumping and the “Hey, Todd’s not such a bad guy” statement were red flags.

But the commenters?

Ohhhh, the commenters…

That’s a fine crop of assholes they’ve got growing there.

Yeah, it’s one of our biggest cash crops here in south by god carolina//

The crap Kincannon tweeted about Trayvon Martin should have gotten him disbarred long ago—and his bogus story about being swatted at his law firm back in the TGDN days. I agree the guy needs help, but this is not some new issue that just came to light. He ain’t been right for years.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:54:37pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

It’s sad and infuriating that this next election cycle we’re going to have to be vigilant against white nationalism and white nationalist ideas. It’s a mind-fuck, I tells ya! It’s 2015! And KKK folk don’t even have to wear their damn sheets! They’re running for president!

My mind was filling with dread when I was typing that and something weird occurred to me: John Kasich Wins Republican Nomination. Loses badly to Bernie Sanders in the General.

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Kragar  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:55:17pm

re: #87 KiTA

How dare a college expose a student to new ideas!

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 9:55:45pm

Oh, hey, Mr. Grasso has a blog post up in The Washington Post about this.

But though many students denounced my decision publicly, almost 20 people privately messaged me, thanking me for my post. I received many messages from Christians, but a message from a Muslim man stood out. The man, currently a sophomore at Duke, wrote, “I’ve seen a lot of people who just throw away their identity in college in the name of secularism, open-mindedness, or liberalism.” Is this really what Duke wants?

Yes, how horrifying that people might get an open mind in College.

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dholmes32  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:00:04pm

re: #87 KiTA

Duke University in the news again…

Duke University Students Reject Alison Bechdel’s Acclaimed Book “Fun Home” Over Gay Themes (Potential NSFW Warning: Beefcake)

I’m trying to figure that one out… So he might have consented to read it, but, now it’s offensive because the school gave him a free copy of it?

No, Mr. Grasso, I’m pretty sure they were DEFINITELY aware your type existed, which was kinda the whole point.

I’ve seen this story all week and I feel weird, I was reading Bechdel’s “Dykes to Watch Out For” when I was in law school in the second half of the ’80s. It’s like, as far as I’m concerned, a non-issue. But then again, I did go to my first gay commitment ceremony in 1985, so a bit ahead of the times.

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sagehen  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:03:41pm

re: #87 KiTA

I’m trying to figure that one out… So he might have consented to read it, but, now it’s offensive because the school gave him a free copy of it?

Because it’s a comic book (oh. sorry. “graphic novel”). It has pictures.

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KiTA  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:11:22pm

Ever since the ultra-right cultists discovered the Homeschool loopholes we’re seeing more and more Mr. Grassos out there.

My friend from HS’s ultra-christian wife is homeschooling her 2 boys and 1 daughter, and recently he let me know that due to some loophole (we’re in Idaho, but they’re getting the materials from either California or Utah) there’s absolutely NO oversight. The kids don’t even have to pass standardized tests.

That’s horrifying to me. An entire generation sabotaged by iron age cultists. But even more terrifying — to quote Jello Biafra: “What’ll their kids be like?!”

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:17:06pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:29:22pm

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BongCrodny  Aug 29, 2015 • 10:38:16pm

Kincannon looks good in orange.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 11:14:32pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 11:19:47pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

The vehicle owners turned it off, it took about 90 seconds. Dogs were barking all over the place, it was loud for two minutes in my quiet neighborhood.

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Jenner7  Aug 29, 2015 • 11:42:03pm

Started day at Ferguson Canyon in Cottonwood Heights, Utah and ended the night by the fire with my nephew who turns 21 on the 31st. I haven’t seen him in months! What a good day and night. Have a good Sunday all!

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No Depression  Aug 29, 2015 • 11:54:18pm

re: #91 KiTA

Oh, hey, Mr. Grasso has a blog post up in The Washington Post about this.

Yes, how horrifying that people might get an open mind in College.

Why the fuck is the Washington Post giving this whiny little shit a platform for his sheltered bellyaching? I know I’ve said it before, but the media in this country is a joke.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2015 • 11:55:54pm

re: #100 Jenner7

Utah is the most beautiful state in the Union, I’m talking about the land and the water. It has so much potential with humans, but it was taken over by Brigham Young well over a century ago. Now it’s, well, Utah.

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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:00:25am

I have 6 beers and a hard cider in me, so I’m watching the Noah episode (Season 5 Epi 14) on TWD. I couldn’t watch it any other way. It’s heartbreaking.

G’night.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:28:24am

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:46:12am

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Who_is_Jon_Snow?  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:46:15am

re: #85 William Lewis

Watched Arsenal just squeak by Newcastle United via an own goal. The beautiful game makes it easy to forget American Football still exists.

I watch CP. Strange to see them near the top of the table. SWMBO is a Juventus fan but doesn’t watch much anymore.

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dell*nix  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:54:35am

With the current politics I feel like I am in the middle of a Hammer horror flick. One of those where you are the only one who knows something is wrong and things are about to go to hell.

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piratedan  Aug 30, 2015 • 12:57:05am

I wish I understood why it’s a bridge too far to

a) pay teachers well
b) fix bridges, roads and dams
c) update our power plants
d) get Americans decent quality health care

and that we’re going to use taxes to do so…

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RadicalModerate  Aug 30, 2015 • 1:33:46am

What. The. F?

Christie: Track immigrants like FedEx packages

“I’m going to have Fred Smith, the founder of FedEx, come work for the government for three months. Just come for three months to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and show these people,” the New Jersey governor said at a town hall event here.
[…]
“You go online and at any moment, FedEx can tell you where that package is,” he said. “Yet we let people come into this country with visas, and the minute they come in, we lose track of them.”

Christie added, “We need to have a system that tracks you from the moment you come in and then when your time is up,” he said. “However long your visa is, then we go get you and tap you on the shoulder and say, ‘Excuse me, it’s time to go.’”

Governor Christie, you DO know that they are able to track those FedEx packages by stamping them with a barcode and keeping them in their custody for the entire time, now don’t you?

I’m guessing that your solution to the “immigration problem” is tattooing identifying numbers on those immigrants and keeping them sequestered in facilities so they can easily be controlled?

Really?

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 30, 2015 • 2:00:25am

How about some Leon Russel? Ballad for a Soldier

Leon Russell - Ballad for a Soldier

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thecommodore  Aug 30, 2015 • 2:10:55am

Dear Todd,

It isn’t as bad as all they’re saying here. Trust me, you’ll bounce back.

Regards,

George Zimmerman

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:09:58am

Assange meets with an antisemitic cartoonist:

But this is par for the course: he’s also friends with Israel Shamir, who’s basically a neo-Nazi, despite his Jewish roots.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:54:35am

Jewish (roots) neo Nazi. From the same intellectual basement closet as female MRA’s, black Confederates, etc.

Wow. The psychological compartmentalization must be epic.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:57:33am

re: #113 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Jewish (roots) neo Nazi. From the same intellectual basement closet as female MRA’s, black Confederates, etc.

Wow. The psychological compartmentalization must be epic.

He even lives in Israel (and used to be a very right-wing Zionist), but he’s so self-hating that he got baptized in an Orthodox church in order to “kill the Jew in himself” (his expression).

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:57:54am

Sigh…

Suspect arrested in Texas deputy ‘execution-style’ shooting

Investigators continue Sunday to dig for answers in the execution-style shooting death of a deputy sheriff after a 30-year-old man was arrested and charged in what police called an “unprovoked” attack.

Shannon J. Miles is being held on a charge of capital murder in the death of Deputy Darren Goforth, 47, a 10-year veteran with the sheriff’s office. Investigators said Miles shot Goforth, who was in uniform, from behind at a Chevron station about 8:20 p.m. Friday. Miles has a criminal history that includes resisting arrest, trespassing, evading detention and disorderly conduct with a firearm, Harris County Sheriff Ron Hickman said.

Hickman said Saturday the shooting was “unprovoked” and attributed it to the “very dangerous national rhetoric” about police officers nationwide. He said all indications show Goforth was targeted “because he wore a uniform,” adding he does not believe the two men knew each other.

“When rhetoric ramps up to the point where [a] cold-blooded assassination has happened, this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” he said. “We heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter too, so why don’t we drop the qualifier and say ‘lives matter’ and take that to the bank.”

[…]

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:59:08am

Sort of a high(er)-brow version of “Brother Nathanael”.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 4:59:17am

How can sheriff of one of the more populated counties be so indiscriminate with his language? The alleged shooter, Miles, hasn’t even gone to trial.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:01:04am

Now, every time a murder is committed by someone who our society describes as “black”, vested interests, such as that sheriff, will use it as an excuse to dismiss efforts to make justice in this country color-blind.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:06:02am

re: #115 freetoken

Sigh…

Suspect arrested in Texas deputy ‘execution-style’ shooting

“We heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter too, so why don’t we drop the qualifier and say ‘lives matter’ and take that to the bank.”

—Goddamn fucking cop

Oh, fucking bullshit, you cop bastard. If cops ever start getting gunned down for no fucking reason at even 1% of the rate they now gun down innocent people for absolutely no fucking reason, then we can talk—but until then keep your poisonous fucking cop gob stopped!

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:06:39am

Murdered because of dangerous national rhetoric. Talking about policing and race is causing the deaths of cops. But not the actual issues of policing and race that are the cause of all that talking to happen in the first place.

Now that’s some dangerous national rhetoric.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:08:33am

An ancient comment of mine about Shamir with some of his background.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:09:20am

Journalism, not at it’s finest:

Presidential Candidates on Both Sides Confronting Angry Iowans

There aren’t a lot of happy feelings in America’s heartland as Republican and Democratic presidential candidates campaign in Iowa ahead of the state’s lead-off caucuses.

Activists planning to attend the Feb. 1 precinct meetings, the first balloting of the 2016 nomination season, are a fairly grumpy bunch, the latest Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll shows.

Just 1 percent of Republicans and 4 percent of Democrats declare themselves to be “happy” with the U.S. government, while just 2 percent in each party will say that of Wall Street.

What’s making them mad?

[…]

This kind of fallacy is so large even some Breitbartians ought to be able to spot it.

Iowa has among the lowest unemployment rates, fairly low crime rates, etc. There’s not a lot to be mad about, materially anyway, unless you have something against watching corn grow. Been through Iowa many times, on the whole not a very angry place.

Perhaps, if the supposed journalist bothered to go there and ask questions to a broad selection of people he’d find out that the industry of puffing up political issues is … well, something in which he’s complicit.

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Doofus  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:15:27am
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sagehen  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:20:06am

re: #115 freetoken

“When rhetoric ramps up to the point where [a] cold-blooded assassination has happened, this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” he said. “We heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter too, so why don’t we drop the qualifier and say ‘lives matter’ and take that to the bank.”

Is this willful ignorance, or an honest misunderstanding?

When this cop was killed, the authorities moved as quickly as they could to identify, locate and arrest the killer. Because that’s how society reacts to the death of someone whose life we think matters.

When Trayvonn Martin was killed, or Mike Brown, or John Crawford, or Tamir Rice, the authorities shrugged. Because that’s how society reacts to the deaths of those whose lives we think don’t matter.

Pretty simple.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:22:15am

So I’m wading through the moonbatosphere right now and seeing… things. Gah.

I suppose this is not considered antisemitic in some circles (warning: graphic racist imagery):

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WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:29:10am

re: #109 RadicalModerate

Tattooing wouldn’t do it. RFID implants with roadside readers every couple miles.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:34:12am

Meanwhile George continues to be a pus-filled pimple on humanity’s buttocks:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:37:37am

re: #127 Nyet

Meanwhile George continues to be a pus-filled pimple on humanity’s buttocks:

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WTF is a “dark skinned” male???

Well…you for example, you chancre!

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Doofus  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:43:36am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:46:35am

re: #112 Nyet

Assange meets with an antisemitic cartoonist:

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But this is par for the course: he’s also friends with Israel Shamir, who’s basically a neo-Nazi, despite his Jewish roots.

Is “Israel Shamir” really a Jew, in that he has Jewish parents? I thought he is a Russian anti-Semite who created a “Jewish-sounding” name for himself in order to sound “authentic”

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:47:44am
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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 5:54:11am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

Is “Israel Shamir” really a Jew,

A few years ago I would have said yes, but now I would say “depends on your perspective”.

If one accepts self-identification as the primary deciding factor, then no. He himself is vehemently against him being called Jewish (he even got baptized to “get rid of Jewishness”).

If one accepts external factors, then it again depends: if one accepts the ancestral factor, then yes, since both parents are (were) Jewish. If one accepts religion, then no: he’s an Orthodox Christian. If one accepts the opinion of the people around him, then it depends on whom you ask.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:06:57am

Interestingly, his mother (Esther Lomovskaya) is apparently still a right-wing settler:

sem40.ru

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:22:14am

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:30:29am

re: #132 Nyet

A few years ago I would have said yes, but now I would say “depends on your perspective”.

If one accepts self-identification as the primary deciding factor, then no. He himself is vehemently against him being called Jewish (he even got baptized to “get rid of Jewishness”).

If one accepts external factors, then it again depends: if one accepts the ancestral factor, then yes, since both parents are (were) Jewish. If one accepts religion, then no: he’s an Orthodox Christian. If one accepts the opinion of the people around him, then it depends on whom you ask.

IIRC there is yet another dimension—his legal status. In Israel “Jewish” is also a concept in law.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:32:12am

re: #135 Decatur Deb

True. I wonder how self-id and baptism play a role legally.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:38:59am

re: #136 Nyet

True. I wonder how self-id and baptism play a role legally.

It would define who he can marry in-country, most likely. How good a conversion makes young Mohammed eligible for the draft?

We are not totally free of such concepts here, with anti-discrimination, conscientious-objector, and affirmative action rules.

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:44:44am

Last night I watched Conspiracy, a movie based on the transcript of the Wansee Conference, starring Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich. A large portion of the meeting was spent defining who was a Jew who would be subjected to “evacuation.” Chilling stuff. All fifteen men at the conference endorsed the extermination of Jews in Europe. Incredibly, despite discovery of the transcript in 1947, several of the conference attendees who survived the war either weren’t prosecuted for crimes against humanity due to lack of evidence, or served very short sentences.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:47:37am

re: #138 aagcobb

In my opinion, the German post-war justice largely failed.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:50:54am

As someone who had a gun pulled on her in two separate domestic violence incidents, I can say this with quite a bit of certainty:

Without help, Kincannon will end up shooting someone and then, most likely himself. Hell, with help he could still end up like this. The fact is, he’s going to get out and be angry that his life has fallen apart. He’s going to look for someone to blame. Unless he’s got a LOT of money for quality treatment, the outcome is pretty much guaranteed to be bad. Mental health care in this country is not quality care for most people. Most people get prescriptions for drugs that may not work or make them sick (this happened to me, I tried SSRIs and got so sick I couldn’t function, physically and mentally. When the meds stopped so did the symptoms) and referrals, if they’re lucky, to a therapist. Who may or may not be trained to handle the issues the person has. Finding the right therapist takes time too, it also takes a willingness to do that work. Kincannon hasn’t shown he’s at that point, but one never can know until it’s obvious either way.

And yes, without a gun he could hurt or kill someone, and then himself. But with a gun, it’s damned near guaranteed. Here’s the thing about guns, it makes it EASY to kill. You don’t have to touch the person, or even look right at them or be anywhere that near them. I seriously hope his wife (ex?) and kids are in a safe place where he can’t find them. His former co-workers and everyone else he can blame for this (the courts, etc) need to be mindful too. It’s sad, that much hate, being cheered on and validated has profound consequences. IMO, that’s the lesson we as a country are missing with all this violence and hate, the suffering and sadness is what’s killing us and guns are the tool of choice to act on those things. We’re missing the wake up call, every. single. day. That’s your Sign From God right there.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:51:57am

re: #127 Nyet

Zimmerman is rapidly dropping his (thin, semi-transparent) mask.

I wonder how many Zimmerman fans are going to own the reality of just what Zimmerman is?

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:54:09am

re: #141 freetoken

Dropping? He dropped it when he drew the flag.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 6:54:34am

re: #141 freetoken

I think his fans are no different from him. He wouldn’t be nearly as cocky without all the validation he’s getting. That arrogance is going to be his downfall eventually, but most likely someone else will be taken down with him.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:10:28am

re: #138 aagcobb

I saw that one too. The only objection, “think of all the paperwork”.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:13:48am

re: #139 Nyet

In my opinion, the German post-war justice largely failed.

It looks that way, but 70 years later it is easier to be an open neo-Nazi in Coeur d’Alene than in Berlin. And you have posted on Russian ‘re-enactors’.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:14:41am

re: #144 Amory Blaine

I saw that one too. The only objection, “think of all the paperwork”.

Then again, anyone objecting to the “Führer’s” order would probably not live to see the post-war justice anyway.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:17:20am

re: #127 Nyet

Meanwhile George continues to be a pus-filled pimple on humanity’s buttocks:

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Zimmerman would be described as a ‘dark skinned male’ if he was a suspect.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:20:11am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

There’s no lack of German neo-Nazis, but that’s a matter of prevention (or failure thereof), rather than justice. That said, the US occupation forces didn’t help much either. First, by the heavy-handed methods with which they conducted their trials, second, by commuting quite a lot of sentences after the “rage phase” was over and the anti-Soviet ties with West Germany needed to be strengthened.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:20:40am

re: #147 darthstar

Zimmerman would be described as a ‘dark skinned male’ if he was a suspect.

Wasn’t he described as a white male here when he was a suspect?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:21:36am

re: #148 Nyet

There’s no lack of German neo-Nazis, but that’s a matter of prevention (or failure thereof), rather than justice. That said, the US occupation forces didn’t help much either. First, by the heavy-handed methods with which they conducted their trials, second, by commuting quite a lot of sentences after the “rage phase” was over and the anti-Soviet ties with West Germany needed to be strengthened.

We fucking hired them.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:24:50am

One example of a German justice fail:

“Unworthy Behavior”: The Case of SS Officer Max Täubner

The German courts decided not to try him because of “double jeopardy”, since he had been tried by the SS court. The problem is that he was never tried for murdering Jews, only for making and sharing photos of the murders.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:24:53am

Sigh, vacation postponed.
Thanks, Obama.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:27:08am

re: #149 Nyet

Wasn’t he described as a white male here when he was a suspect?

Zimmerman is half German, half Peruvian…he’d probably be labeled as ‘hispanic’ if he was an unknown suspect. Just based on his complexion and features…one’s first thought isn’t Oh he looks German.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:28:11am

re: #152 Varek Raith

I’m sorry. That sucks. ( I haven’t been on any kind of vacation since 2009. From the looks of things it’s not looking like any vacation is in my future either) I hope you can get away soon, everyone needs a break.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:29:30am

re: #153 darthstar

Zimmerman is half German, half Peruvian…he’d probably be labeled as ‘hispanic’ if he was an unknown suspect. Just based on his complexion and features…one’s first thought isn’t Oh he looks German.

Based on his barechested photo with the cigar in his mouth, I’d have pegged him as a two-bit druglord.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:31:49am

re: #153 darthstar

Zimmerman is half German, half Peruvian…he’d probably be labeled as ‘hispanic’ if he was an unknown suspect. Just based on his complexion and features…one’s first thought isn’t Oh he looks German.

Maybe, but that’s not what people were saying back then.

The story was “a white guy kills a black teenager”. There were several posts at LGF about the legitimacy of the term “white Hispanic”.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:32:15am

Speaking of identities and politics, has anyone been keeping up with India’s PM Modi and his remarks over “DNA”?

A month ago Modi used DNA in a throw-away line about governance and democratic elections:

Bihar battle: How Nitish Kumar wants to capitalise on PM Modi’s ‘poor DNA’ remark

A whole bunch of politicians from the offended region have jumped on that remark and are trying to make hay with it, against Modi but also against their local competitors.

Lalu hits out at Modi over ‘DNA’ remarks

Mr. Prasad also hit out at the ‘DNA remark’ by PM Narendra Modi against Chief Minister Nitish Kumar during his Muzaffarpur rally last month.

The RJD supremo said the people of the State would make the BJP understand that “they are not buyable” and in an apparent reference to Mr. Modi, said any “outsider with blood of a businessman in his veins” would not be allowed to insult them.

“Good ‘sanskara’ [habits] course through our veins. Good ‘sanskaras’ are in our DNA. In our State we call even poor rickshaw-pullers with respect. We will not allow any outsider, who has blood of a businessman in his veins, try to insult us,” he said.

And now it’s gathering steam:

‘Some Take Pleasure Mocking Bihar’: Sonia Gandhi on PM Modi’s DNA Remarks

and her opponent:

Sonia has no right to comment about Bihar’s DNA, says Giriraj Singh

And more silliness follows:

My DNA is Bihari, we will send our hair, nail samples to PMO: Nitish

Addressing a massive Swabhimaan Rally in Patna’s Gandhi Maidan, Kumar said, “He(Narendra Modi) said my DNA is bad. Who am I? I am one of you. Today, people of Bihar are collecting samples of their hair and nails and from tomorrow they will sending it to the Prime Minister’s Office for their DNA analysis. My DNA represents a Bihari.”

Biology in the service of politics and identity.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:35:29am

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:36:29am

That sound you hear is Confederate dead-enders crying into their coffee:

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:38:31am

I always have vine tweets muted by default - and sound off on my computer when the missus is sleeping, but this one is worth turning on the audio for.

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Great White Snark  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:40:43am

The all powerful Bush Dynasty!

Three top Jeb Bush fundraisers abruptly parted ways with his presidential campaign on Friday, amid internal personality conflicts and questions about the strength of his candidacy, POLITICO has learned.
There are different versions of what transpired. The Florida-based fundraising consultants — Kris Money, Trey McCarley, and Debbie Aleksander — have said that they voluntarily quit the campaign and were still working with Bush’s super PAC, Right to Rise Super PAC. Others said the three, who worked under the same contract, were let go because they were no longer needed for the current phase of the campaign.

Read more: politico.com

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dholmes32  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:42:30am

re: #109 RadicalModerate

I’m guessing that your solution to the “immigration problem” is tattooing identifying numbers on those immigrants and keeping them sequestered in facilities so they can easily be controlled?

Really?

Just call it the Mark of the Beast and strongly insinuate citizens are next. The religious right will come stark staring unglued.

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:44:36am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

It looks that way, but 70 years later it is easier to be an open neo-Nazi in Coeur d’Alene than in Berlin. And you have posted on Russian ‘re-enactors’.

Though there has been recent neo-nazi anti-immigrant rioting in Germany.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:45:40am

re: #148 Nyet

There’s no lack of German neo-Nazis, but that’s a matter of prevention (or failure thereof), rather than justice. That said, the US occupation forces didn’t help much either. First, by the heavy-handed methods with which they conducted their trials, second, by commuting quite a lot of sentences after the “rage phase” was over and the anti-Soviet ties with West Germany needed to be strengthened.

If you’re going to blame the US, blame France first, since they were more heavy-handed than we were, and after you blame us, blame the British next, for they were occupiers as well.

I felt the US was being singled out unfairly.

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:48:42am

re: #159 Lidane

That sound you hear is Confederate dead-enders crying into their coffee:

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In Kentucky, despite the calls of the GOP establishment for removal of the Jeff Davis statue from the Capital Rotunda, the Commission in charge of it voted to keep it.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:50:09am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

If you’re going to blame the US, blame France first, since they were more heavy-handed than we were, and after you blame us, blame the British next, for they were occupiers as well.

I felt the US was being singled out unfairly.

Don’t be so insecure. We’re still number one! Number one in gun deaths. Number one in greenhouse gas emissions (in the western world). Number one in obesity. Number one in incarceration. Number one in the high cost of healthcare.

USA!
USA!
USA!

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:52:17am

re: #167 darthstar

Go soak your head.

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:53:07am

re: #167 darthstar

Don’t be so insecure. We’re still number one! Number one in gun deaths. Number one in greenhouse gas emissions (in the western world). Number one in obesity. Number one in incarceration. Number one in the high cost of healthcare.

USA!
USA!
USA!

Number one in teen pregnancy. Number one in drug addiction. Number one in wingnuts-per-capita. Number one in alcoholism. Number one in the death penalty.

USA!
USA!
USA!

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:53:23am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

You didn’t mention the Soviets, who were obviously the worst offenders on that score. Obviously you have something against the Western Allies to single them out like that!

/

But I acknowledge your point.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:53:54am

re: #166 Varek Raith

The best of all the Star Wars movies. :)

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:54:33am

::: sniff sniff ::: I smell the starts of a tiff. I am headed to amazon to research eyeglass screwdrivers.

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:55:00am

There are some really good Trump parody accounts.

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:55:46am

Speaking of Confederate dead-enders, this bullshit is starting up again:

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 7:57:42am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

If you’re going to blame the US, blame France first, since they were more heavy-handed than we were, and after you blame us, blame the British next, for they were occupiers as well.

I felt the US was being singled out unfairly.

We can’t claim to be exceptional and entitled to lead the free world, and then excuse our failings by saying “they did it too.” Acknowledging our past failings is part of the process of moving forward. Our failure to do so it a big reason why progress in racial justice has been so badly stymied.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:01:54am
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Lidane  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:04:46am

This asshole:

I’m still waiting to hear the details on this cunning plan. Is Gov. Bridgegate suggesting that we add barcodes and/or RFID to our visas? And how would we feel if other countries added their own RFID or barcodes to our passports?

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Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:06:31am

re: #177 Lidane

This asshole:

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I’m still waiting to hear the details on this cunning plan. Is Gov. Bridgegate suggesting that we add barcodes and/or RFID to our visas? And how would we feel if other countries added their own RFID or barcodes to our passports?

Remember folks, he’s “the moderate one”, just like Jeb! is “the smart one”.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:07:57am

I suppose the reason I mentioned only the US is that I know a bit more about the American irregularities (even though I read about the London Cage etc.). Take the Malmedy trials. Although the congressional investigation debunked the more lurid claims (like 130+ pairs of testicles “crushed” by interrogators), it still found lots of bad stuff (see the final report). And, I mean, if Lucius Clay had to commute Ilse Fucking Koch’s sentence because some of the evidence used against her was apparently murky, it should already tell us something. On the other hand, some of the other commutations were pretty outrageous and IMHO politically motivated.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:08:58am

re: #177 Lidane

This asshole:

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I’m still waiting to hear the details on this cunning plan. Is Gov. Bridgegate suggesting that we add barcodes and/or RFID to our visas? And how would we feel if other countries added their own RFID or barcodes to our passports?

What sickens me is the echoes of the Holocaust. One of the reasons we know of its scale decently accurately is because of the tracking documents for the transportation of its victims. Not to mention that it will only be a question of time before such a tracking system is abused.

Chris Christies idea sucks on so many levels…

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:10:49am

re: #142 Nyet

Dropping? He dropped it when he drew the flag.

Speaking of the “the flag”…

Yesterday a bunch of bubbas in Bucyrus, Ohio decided they needed to have a Confederate Flag Parade day. Fucking idiots.

Bucyrus is in north central Ohio, a few miles west of where I grew up. It is largely a farm town with many a German heritage family in it. How do I know? My mother was a German farm girl that grew up just east of Bucyrus and we used to go to the local Catholic church festival, the county fair and the at one-time huge Bucyrus Bratwurst Festival.

This town has zip to do with the south. So, what is the connection? I’m sure you can guess. Of course one slack-talking bubba on a local news report I heard this morning said it wasn’t about race, he and his little woman swore they were not racists, they were just out to show their heritage.

God damn flag has no heritage in Ohio.

Here is a link to a local report with more photos if anyone cares…

Richland Source - Confederate parade rolls through Bucyrus

I think this local summed up my thoughts.

— CUT —

Joel Vega, a protestor, held a sign that read, “Traitors, Losers and Haters since 1865” on one side and “History of Hate” with a crossed out Confederate Flag on the other.

“We’re north of the Mason Dixon [Line] here. We’re an hour and a half away from Canada. There is no history for a Confederate battle flag in this part of the country — in northern Ohio, said Vega.

“To do this has no historical basis and it’s simply to rub racism in people’s faces. Or they just don’t know what it is and they’re just being ignorant,” he added.

Down the street, Jeanette Parker, pointed to Vega and said, “He doesn’t know history. This flag is not racist. It was the southerners, the South … It was their flag. It was a battle flag — that flag didn’t have anything to do with racism.”

— CUT —

A couple stupid photos of stupid behavior…

Yeah…skull and crossbones on a reb flag and let’s teach the kid to be stupid too…
Hey, there is red in the US Flag too, and that flag actually represented Ohio dumbass

As I learned a long time ago…the south can go pretty damn far north. Sigh

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Great White Snark  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:11:32am

re: #177 Lidane

As if license plate tracking, credit card transaction tracking, Stingray, the 100 mile wide not quite legal “border zone”, etc etc are not egregious enough.

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Great White Snark  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:13:52am

re: #181 ObserverArt

They need one of two things both white cloth. A surrender flag, or KKK cloaks.

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:14:23am

Bobby Jindal, lol. I hope you are enjoying that dumbass, Louisiana.

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:14:56am

re: #177 Lidane

This asshole:

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I’m still waiting to hear the details on this cunning plan. Is Gov. Bridgegate suggesting that we add barcodes and/or RFID to our visas? And how would we feel if other countries added their own RFID or barcodes to our passports?

Trump is pushing the GOP candidates so far to the Right on immigration they are making Romney’s “self-deportation” comments look warm and fuzzy by comparison. Huckabee changed his mind about the 14th Amendment on birthright citizenship, and now Scott Walker wants to build a wall across the continent between the US and Canada. They must be hoping there are enough racist whites that they can pull down nearly 2/3 of the white vote against Hillary, because I can’t see how they will even match Romney’s dismal showing with minority voters, much less exceed it.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:16:20am
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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:19:17am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

Go soak your head.

So, darthstar isn’t wrong then, but your comeback is go soak your head.

Allrightythen…

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Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:20:41am

re: #184 Kid A

Bobby Jindal, lol. I hope you are enjoying that dumbass, Louisiana.

What did Piyush do now?

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:25:36am

re: #181 ObserverArt

“Stop talking about the South. As long as you are South of the Canadian border, you are South.”

- Malcolm X

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CuriousLurker  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:25:43am

re: #181 ObserverArt

Speaking of the “the flag”…
[snip]
As I learned a long time ago…the south can go pretty damn far north. Sigh

Reminds me of something from the page I posted last weekend:

PROVIDENCE, R.I. — One of the darkest chapters of Rhode Island history involved the state’s pre-eminence in the slave trade, beginning in the 1700s. More than half of the slaving voyages from the United States left from ports in Providence, Newport and Bristol — so many, and so contrary to the popular image of slavery as primarily a scourge of the South, that Rhode Island has been called “the Deep North.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:26:11am

re: #177 Lidane

Immigrant “warehouses” where they must “check in” whenever they go anywhere outside the town they live in. Yeah. That’ll work.

And again. How exactly do we know who is here legally or not? How do these fucking idiots propose we sort that out?

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:26:15am

re: #188 Timothy Watson

What did Piyush do now?

Infected my television with an appearance on This Week.

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:28:34am

Because Christie isn’t the only asshole with terrible ideas:

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Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:29:48am

re: #193 Lidane

Because Christie isn’t the only asshole with terrible ideas:

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AND WE WILL PUT LANDMINES ON ALL OUR BEACHES TOO!!1!

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:30:25am

re: #193 Lidane

Well, how will America take its hat off if we put a wall at the Canadian border???
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Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:31:01am

re: #192 Kid A

Infected my television with an appearance on This Week.

Ah, I haven’t watched the Sunday shows in years, I value my brain cells and my blood pressure too much. :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:31:14am

re: #193 Lidane

Going to propose a dome, next!

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Mattand  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:37:25am

re: #181 ObserverArt

This is pretty much how I feel when I see one of those damn flags flying in New Jersey.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:39:45am

re: #1 KiTA

How many other twitter RWNJs are ticking timebombs like this? Horrifying.

He’s probably not as much as an outlier and most would think.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:42:03am

re: #198 Mattand

And Kid Rock being a supporter of it. Uh. He’s from Detroit.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:43:04am

Hey, I have an idea. Let’s get all the GOP presidential candidates together on a nice 100’ x 100’ flat piece of land somewhere remote and build a big ass tall wall around them and keep them there, out of sight and out of mind.

Sure, there can be a little 12” x 12” slot with a door on it to slide them in some beans and rice and some water. They can have one TV tuned only to FOX News and maybe one Obamaphone to communicate with the real world.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:44:52am

The various Republican notions of how to deal with undocumented immigrants only become viable if you overlook that the best way to ensure that they pay their taxes and that you know where they are is by making them all citizens.

The next-best thing to do would be to remove the major drivers of undocumented immigration. End the war on drugs; we’ve been losing the war on drugs for 101 years (Harrison Narcotics Act, 1914) while empowering thugocracies throughout the sphere of the Monroe Doctrine. Make knowingly hiring undocumented immigrants a felony with jail time and fines. If undocumented immigrants are an existential threat then the only worse people must those who encourage them by providing jobs, right?

None of the above remedies will be enacted. There are too many interests making money off of the fact that coming to America to work your ass off in a job that most Americans wouldn’t even consider is illegal.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:47:31am

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

In some states even voluntary admits will result in being prohibited from firearm purchases.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:47:49am

Finally! A reasonable Republican!

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:48:29am

re: #138 aagcobb

Last night I watched Conspiracy, a movie based on the transcript of the Wansee Conference, starring Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich. A large portion of the meeting was spent defining who was a Jew who would be subjected to “evacuation.” Chilling stuff. All fifteen men at the conference endorsed the extermination of Jews in Europe. Incredibly, despite discovery of the transcript in 1947, several of the conference attendees who survived the war either weren’t prosecuted for crimes against humanity due to lack of evidence, or served very short sentences.

My favourite author uses the Wannsee Conference as a fine example of the dangers of reason without the balancing effect of other human traits.

There was no ethics or concern about good or evil involved. No common sense that everybody is human and would suffer under the pogrom they were planning. No intuition or imagination of the pain and death they were going to cause. Especially no memory of the horrors of past pogroms.

They just sat down and calmly, rationally, determined how to murder millions of people.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:50:05am

re: #204 darthstar

Oh, I see this is already mentioned upthread. That’s what I get from switching between my local browser and an RDP session on a server at work on a Sunday morning.

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MomSense  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:51:18am

re: #108 piratedan

I really don’t get the outrage either about government providing the basic services a modern society requires. I think the outrage comes from selfishness. There are a lot of people who don’t want to pay taxes and it seems like the more money a person has, the less they like to pay. How they reconcile this attitude with the contradictory belief that the USA is the greatest country on earth escapes me.

I listened to part of the Trump/Palin tossed salad interview and Trump talked about how our infrastructure is a joke to other countries. Huh? Has he been paying attention to the last 35 years of Republican desire to drown government in a bathtub? Where was he when the Republicans went nuts about the infrastructure spending that was part of the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act? Has he seen the president’s jobs bills go nowhere because of Republican opposition? The jobs bills are spending on roads, bridges, power grids, high speed internet, public transportation, etc.

The Republicans seem hell bent on letting our country crumble because they love it so much. It doesn’t make any sense but here we are and we have to figure out what to do about it.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:51:40am

re: #115 freetoken

I just watched the presser: makes my blood boil. Blaming the symptoms and not the disease.

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bratwurst  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:51:43am

re: #204 darthstar

Finally! A reasonable Republican!

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One of the few positive results of the Trump phenomenon is the fact that Walker has been so marginalized he’s reduced to floating ridiculous idea after ridiculous idea in the hope one might catch on. He’s a pathetic idiot, and while he will soon be leaving the national stage forever it won’t be nearly soon enough.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:53:34am

Sorry…was someone talking? I was busy soaking my head.

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:54:18am

Newt Gingrich is the Newt Gingrich of hyperbole.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:54:22am

I’ve always heard: never bother a man whence thine head is doth being soaked.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:56:15am

re: #209 bratwurst

One of the few positive results of the Trump phenomenon is the fact that Walker has been so marginalized he’s reduced to floating ridiculous idea after ridiculous idea in the hope one might catch on. He’s a pathetic idiot, and while he will soon be leaving the national stage forever it won’t be nearly soon enough.

I think Trump has actually helped shine a light on just how crazy all 17 of these fuckers are. I feel sorry for the poor bastard that has to justify voting for one of these people in the general election after the crap they’ve said…

And if you think the eventual nominee will be able to walk back everything and run as a centrist in the general, think back to 2012 when Mitt fuckwit tried to do that. Mr. 47% got his ass handed to him like the elitist asshole he was, not the ‘man of the people’ he pretended to be for the last three weeks.

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Mattand  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:56:34am

re: #201 ObserverArt

re: #202 Higgs Boson’s Mate

At this point, the GOP candidates are becoming a modern day version of Monty Python’s Four Yorkshiremen sketch: four guys reminisce about how hard they had it as kids, with each one trying to outdo the other.

“Well, I’ll build a wall across the entire Mexcian border!”

“Than’t nothing! I’ll build a wall across the Canadian border as well!”

“Oh, yeah? Well, I’ll track human beings like packages!”

“Drones! I’ll bomb them with drones!”

“I’ll hire those guys from the movie Scanners and blow up their heads!”

“I’ll have an army of ninja cyborg ferrets who’ll sneak up on them when they’re sleeping and poison them with curare!”

“If elected, I’ll build an army of Death Stars, each painted with a Confederate flag, that’ll have to capability to disintegrate anyone who doesn’t look like Ward Cleaver!”

I shudder to think what 2020 is going to be like with these guys.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:58:26am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

It’s really OK to criticize your country Dark. It’s not blasphemous in the proper context, like this:

I love my kids. I mean LOVE them, I’d die defending them if it came down to it. However, when they screw up I am not about to keep my mouth shut, ignore what they did and shout from the rooftops how proud I am of them or tell them they’re the best kid EVAR. Nope. I’d be a lousy Mom if I did that.

Same goes for America. I love this country. I KNOW how fortunate I am to be a woman born here. But when we’ve messed up as a nation we have to acknowledge it and not make excuses for it. Otherwise we’ll keep making the same mistakes over and over (as we do sometimes). And we end up with extremists who do shit like dilute the American History taught in schools, so we end up with people who think that the confederate battle flag is something patriotic or that all that happened was a few American Indians got moved around a little, what’s the big deal? Or we forget there was an Iran Contra (and other similar situations we helped facilitate), and on and on. I’d be a crappy citizen if I didn’t step up and at least try to speak out at the very least. Sometimes you have to confront things that aren’t pretty to get them fixed.

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2015 • 8:59:33am

J Jonah Jameson Laughing - Spiderman (HD version)

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:02:46am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:03:24am

re: #3 teleskiguy

South Carolina has more than double the homicide rate for women than the rest of the country. I hope Todd’s wife isn’t near him.

If you haven’t read the Charleston Post & Courier’s Pulitzer Prize-winning series Till Death Do Us Part, set aside some time to read it. Be warned, it’s heartbreaking as all hell.

nice huh

Guns were the weapon of choice in nearly seven out of every 10 domestic killings of women over the past decade, but South Carolina lawmakers have blocked efforts to keep firearms out of the hands of abusers. Unlike South Carolina, more than two-thirds of all states bar batterers facing restraining orders from having firearms, and about half of those allow or require police to seize guns when they respond to domestic violence complaints.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:04:26am

re: #216 Lidane

Here we enter the realm of disillusions of grandeur. It will not be long but eventually all of those will catch the same “bug.”

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:05:40am

re: #207 MomSense

… Where was he when the Republicans went nuts about the infrastructure spending that was part of the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act? Has he seen the president’s jobs bills go nowhere because of Republican opposition? The jobs bills are spending on roads, bridges, power grids, high speed internet, public transportation, etc.

The Republicans seem hell bent on letting our country crumble because they love it so much. It doesn’t make any sense but here we are and we have to figure out what to do about it.

Obviously the Republicans sandbagged the jobs recovery bill(s), as they didn’t want a Democratic president to have such a visible example of restoring the American economy.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:06:32am
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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:07:20am

re: #204 darthstar

I think I’ll define this as a fine example of the self-beclowning gene expressing itself in the middle-age of an H. sapiens life.

It appears several of the GOP candidates are at least heterozygous for the embarrassing allele.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:07:26am

re: #221 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

lol.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:08:24am

re: #222 freetoken

I think I’ll define this as a fine example of the self-beclowning gene expressing itself in the middle-age of an H. sapiens life.

It appears several of the GOP candidates are at least heterozygous for the embarrassing allele.

It wouldn’t be so bad if it was a recessive gene, but it seems to be dominant in the GOP.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:09:52am

re: #218 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Other thoughts simmering in my head the last few days:

If the reporter, cameraman, and their subject had weapons they would still be dead. They had no chance to respond.

A common mantra in gunfucker circles: an armed society is a polite society. I’ve heard that repeated ad nauseum as an article of faith. It’s patently absurd: we are an armed society now. We. Are. Armed. And people are dying by the thousands every year.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:10:17am

re: #221 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

LOL. Who leaves food in a car with a dog? I wouldn’t even think about it. I’m still laughing at this though…lol,hahahaha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:13:46am

re: #221 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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The ears say “I am so sorry and ashamed.”
The eyes say “Oh, I will soooo do that again…”

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MomSense  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:14:08am

re: #220 BeenHereAwhile

Obviously the Republicans sandbagged the jobs recovery bill(s), as they didn’t want a Democratic president to have such a visible example of restoring the American economy.

The Republicans sabotaged our economy to score political gains. Economic treason? They keep getting away with it which is infuriating.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:15:18am

re: #221 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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It’s a good thing the dog had some chow to gulp down while he had to wait to be extricated from the car.

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MomSense  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:15:45am

re: #221 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

HA!! I’ve had two labs and you cannot even turn your back on them if food is around let alone leave them in a car full of food unattended.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:16:14am

re: #224 darthstar

It wouldn’t be so bad if it was a recessive gene, but it seems to be dominant in the GOP.

What is the opposite of progressive if not regressive!

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Kid A  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:16:37am

re: #215 A Mom Anon

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:17:04am

re: #229 ObserverArt

It’s a good thing the dog had some chow to gulp down while he had to wait to be extricated from the car.

/

He’s going to be blasting Kung Pow! poops later, might need to leave him outside for the night.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:17:44am

re: #225 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Yep. I live in an area with a pretty high concentration of gun toting “citizens”. I see them open carrying in their small businesses and at the store, posting all over facebook about their weekends at the gun range and their new “wants” and “must haves”, guns and accessories that are so over the top as to be stupid. I have neighbors that do target practice in their backyard quite often. It’s all legal. But is this a polite place? Not been my experience or my son’s. That “southern hospitality” thing is a bunch of shit. It only applies to you if your kid is in the right sport and you go to the right church and/or you have a lot of money. I’ve never felt so isolated in my life. It’s a polite society for the people who look and think the same, everyone else can go fuck themselves. This taking pride in gun ownership is a problem. Another way to divide people. It’s not polite or nice in the least. What they mean to say is “An armed society is one where I get to intimidate the hell out of whoever I want to”. THAT’S what it means.

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MomSense  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:18:05am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought his expression was “I see that you are upset but what did you expect? You should be happy I didn’t eat the upholstery and seat belts.”

My friend’s lab ate the rubber top of the gear shift.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:21:17am

re: #234 A Mom Anon

Traipsing around town brandishing your gun is a not very subtle way of intimidating other people.

Now, that’s really (really) obvious, but the unwillingness to own up to that is itself quite telling.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:22:42am

But they are not clinging to their guns and religion (…and stupid racist flag)!

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danarchy  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:23:55am

re: #226 A Mom Anon

LOL. Who leaves food in a car with a dog? I wouldn’t even think about it. I’m still laughing at this though…lol,hahahaha.

Not for nothing, but I could leave my dog in the car with food and she would not go near it(as long as it was in containers). She also doesn’t knock over trash cans or counter surf. She is almost 6 and has never eaten anything she was not allowed to eat. Weakly obedience training sessions for almost a year when she was a puppy, that stuff works.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:24:05am

Another miserable day here. It’s only 77F currently, but the RH is 76%.

It’s been a year with little rain but we have these spells of high humidity (monsoonal air flow).

I’d much rather take 97F and 10% RH like in the good ol’ days of the santa ana conditions.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:25:11am

re: #205 Romantic Heretic

Since the whole antisemitism thing and following the leader thing are pretty much the epitome of Unreason, I’d say this case says nothing about reason.

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aagcobb  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:25:45am

re: #239 freetoken

Another miserable day here. It’s only 77F currently, but the RH is 76%.

It’s been a year with little rain but we have these spells of high humidity (monsoonal air flow).

I’d much rather take 97F and 10% RH like in the good ol’ days of the santa ana conditions.

In Kentucky, we have had an incredible stretch of comfortable temps, low humidity and sunshine. Which, of course, proves that global warming is a big hoax.//

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WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:28:30am

re: #204 darthstar

Finally! A reasonable Republican!

Scott Walker says building Canada border wall is a ‘legitimate issue’ trib.al

Only to keep Americans IN if a GOPer is elected.

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Bear  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:28:39am

re: #239 freetoken

Bit of rain here. Last couple days rain nearly 8 inches and more due today.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:30:04am

re: #181 ObserverArt

Uh… you realize that the second photo is someone calling out the people in the first one, right?

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Chan Kobun  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:35:11am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

Dude.

It’s not 2003 anymore. Criticizing America is not a treason-level offense, and this is not old LGF.

If you can’t stand the idea that someone might criticize the US on something that we are fucking up upon quite badly, then you’re too weak, too thin-skinned, to be on the Internet at all.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:35:39am

re: #238 danarchy

Not for nothing, but I could leave my dog in the car with food and she would not go near it(as long as it was in containers). She also doesn’t knock over trash cans or counter surf. She is almost 6 and has never eaten anything she was not allowed to eat. Weakly obedience training sessions for almost a year when she was a puppy, that stuff works.

You know it. My one friend is a dog trainer and his dogs never go after food that is not in their bowl. He can go anywhere with them unleashed and they are extremely well behaved.

His big thing about training dogs? You’ll have a harder time working with the dog’s humans. They never seem to have the discipline to train their dogs. Bad dogs…bad dog owners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:36:25am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:36:44am

bbl

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:38:34am

re: #244 Chan Kobun

Uh… you realize that the second photo is someone calling out the people in the first one, right?

Yeah. I messed up. Too angry when I first saw all the images and read the article.

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:38:40am

Here are the sea surface temp anomalies as of yesterday:

Image: sst.daily.anom.gif

See that reddish blotch up against California.

That’s why I’m so miserable today.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:39:33am

Later folks…gotta get the day rolling.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:40:41am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:41:05am

re: #252 Iwouldprefernotto

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

apparently not…

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stpaulbear  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:41:48am

Hope this week sucks for you, Kim Davis. (warning: autoplay video)

MOREHEAD, Ky. A transgender man and his wife stepped forward Saturday with paperwork showing that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis apparently issued them a marriage license in February even though she has blocked forms for same-sex couples over the past two months.

Camryn Colen, who is transgender, and his wife Alexis, who identifies as pan sexual, said Davis’ office provided the license on Feb. 26 without asking to see Camryn’s birth certificate, which still identifies him as female. The couple married that night.

“She saw just a straight couple in love, and she should see everybody like that,” Camryn said. “She shouldn’t just see straight couples like that.”

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:42:21am

re: #238 danarchy

Mine doesn’t do any of that stuff either. But, if I left her in a car with a pizza, I’m not so sure.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:43:00am

Tre: #244 Chan Kobun

Uh… you realize that the second photo is someone calling out the people in the first one, right?

I suppose OA mistook it for something like the QA format: “why? because”. On a closer reading the meaning is clear, but I understand how one can make such a mistake.

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WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:43:39am

re: #246 ObserverArt

You know it. My one friend is a dog trainer and his dogs never go after food that is not in their bowl. He can go anywhere with them unleashed and they are extremely well behaved.

His big thing about training dogs? You’ll have a harder time working with the dog’s humans. They never seem to have the discipline to train their dogs. Bad dogs…bad dog owners.

I agree 100%…except for two of the rescue dogs I have were so starving for so long if left alone with food there is no way they wouldn’t eat it. I have managed to train the one guy to not rip off our fingers when giving him food by hand (working on the other). He has the gentlest mouth of all of our dogs now. But leave him unattended with food? Nope. The boxes would be gone along with the food.

258
Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:44:11am

Deleted.

259
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:45:40am

$50B 2000 mile fence, now one on the North, FedEx style tracking of immigrants. Keep those great ideas coming team.

What about full body condoms?

260
Teukka  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:46:23am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

There’s a solution coming for you this fall: Get one one of these M249S semi-autos and get a door mount for your SUV or truck. You can say its an ‘anti-carjacker’ measure and your war wagon will be the toast of the town.

/kinda

Why not go with a couple of sizes smaller version of the Phalanx CIWS? ///

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:46:36am

Speaking of the fact that fascism is an expression of unreason, rather than reason, let me quote from Eco:

2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism.

Both Fascists and Nazis worshipped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon blood and earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life. The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake.

Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering’s fondness for a phrase from a Hanns Johst play (“When I hear the word ‘culture’ I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” and “universities are nests of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.

4. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism.

In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.

Critics of reason unwittingly (or not) agree with fascists.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:53:03am

re: #240 Nyet

Since the whole antisemitism thing and following the leader thing are pretty much the epitome of Unreason, I’d say this case says nothing about reason.

Oh, the impulse was evil. The actions carried out in its name were eminently reasonable.

Our society has conflated reasonable with good. If it’s reasonable it must be good. It leads to things like our screwed up, grossly unfair and horribly ineffective economic system. It’s responsible for things like body counts as if victory can be measured. It’s a major contributor to things like The Holocaust.

To paraphrase a line from Inherit The Wind, “Reason is a good thing, a very good thing. But it’s not the only thing.”

263
stpaulbear  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:53:42am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

/kinda

Because you’re also kinda serious that buying a bigger gun would be a good solution to her problem? She should just surrender to the shit she hates?

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:56:08am

Deleted.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:58:02am

re: #262 Romantic Heretic

Oh, the impulse was evil. The actions carried out in its name were eminently reasonable.

The impulse was unreasonable, which makes the subsequent actions unreasonable.

In fact, the Holocaust not only did not help the war effort (except maybe for plunder) but hindered it. All those trains could have been used for military purposes.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:58:02am

re: #263 stpaulbear

Because you’re also kinda serious that buying a bigger gun would be a good solution to her problem? She should just surrender to the shit she hates?

I was only joking. Lighten up.

267
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:58:49am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Because the M134D 7.62mm Minigun is electrically powered and big enough you’d need a pick-up truck. And Ford has said tying an M134D into the electrical system of an F-150 will void the warranty.

Also the M249S can be dismounted and it has a magazine feed in addition to its belt feed. So A Mom Anon could dismount it, remove the belt, insert a 30 round or more magazine and then blend right in. No worries about harassment from ammosexuals.

Note: The first sentence in each paragraph is true. <s

No, you are suggesting MomAnon that get a damned set of truly stupid guns for her vehicle so she can be as intimidating as everyone else in her area, so she can also be PART OF THE FREAKING PROBLEM.

But it’s all just a joke for you.

good grief.

268
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 9:59:12am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

I was only joking. Lighten up.

A really stupid joke at MomAnon’s expense.

269
bratwurst  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:03:40am

Jokes about guns are HILARIOUS, amIrite?

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:04:26am

Even when it comes to the instrumentalization of the “technological part” of reason, the fascists were unreasonable: rejection of Einstein’s relativity on purely ideological grounds shows it.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:05:01am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

There’s a solution coming for you this fall: Get one one of these M249S semi-autos and get a door mount for your SUV or truck. You can say its an ‘anti-carjacker’ measure and your war wagon will be the toast of the town.

/kinda

I’ll pretend I’m a conservative for a moment: Our Founder Fathers are rolling in their graves if this is what the 2A has become.

I own firearms and have no problem with sane, well-trained Americans owning them as well. But, give me a fucking break….there is ZERO civilian application or need for a M249.

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allegro  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:05:32am

re: #257 WhatEVs

I agree 100%…except for two of the rescue dogs I have were so starving for so long if left alone with food there is no way they wouldn’t eat it. I have managed to train the one guy to not rip off our fingers when giving him food by hand (working on the other). He has the gentlest mouth of all of our dogs now. But leave him unattended with food? Nope. The boxes would be gone along with the food.

As newliweds my husband and I adopted two puppies, sisters. When they were about six months old hubby had cooked a prime rib outside on the spit. The fragrance had the whole neighborhood drooling. So he brings it in the house when its done and goes to take a shower. Upon his return to the kitchen the roast is on the floor and two very happy dogs are going to town on it. I came running when I heard hubby hollering and typical of us, he’s pissed and I’m LMAO.

Turns out he’d put the roast right at the edge of the table within easy reach of the dogs. I asked him what he would have done if he was them and this amazing, delicious chunk of cow was put there in front of him. His begrudging answer: “same damn thing.”

Never heard another word about it.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:06:38am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #269 bratwurst

If you think I was out of line, then I’ll just get rid of the offending two posts, which I have done.

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urbanmeemaw  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:06:38am

re: #119 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, fucking bullshit, you cop bastard. If cops ever start getting gunned down for no fucking reason at even 1% of the rate they now gun down innocent people for absolutely no fucking reason, then we can talk—but until then keep your poisonous fucking cop gob stopped!

He’s implying that African Americans are creating the anti police rhetoric that leads to the shooting of policemen. He does not address the anti police/government rhetoric from white domestic terrorists (Las Vegas, Philadelphia, Waco and a few more instances I don’t remember). The white domestic terrorists are the biggest danger to police.

275
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:09:19am

In which a DA infers the discussion on policing and race is the cause of a cop’s murder:

I expect this to blow the fuck up.

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Mattand  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:09:45am

re: #238 danarchy

Not for nothing, but I could leave my dog in the car with food and she would not go near it(as long as it was in containers). She also doesn’t knock over trash cans or counter surf. She is almost 6 and has never eaten anything she was not allowed to eat. Weakly obedience training sessions for almost a year when she was a puppy, that stuff works.

My guy was like that, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:09:48am

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

If you think I was out of line, then I’ll just get rid of the offending two posts, which I have done.

It was really tasteless, given MomAnon’s long-standing troubles with irresponsible gunowners in her neighborhood.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:09:59am

re: #218 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

nice huh

Guns were the weapon of choice in nearly seven out of every 10 domestic killings of women over the past decade, but South Carolina lawmakers have blocked efforts to keep firearms out of the hands of abusers. Unlike South Carolina, more than two-thirds of all states bar batterers facing restraining orders from having firearms, and about half of those allow or require police to seize guns when they respond to domestic violence complaints.

And yet, in 2012, Nikki Haley

cut $453,680 in funding for the South Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (SCCADVASA). If her veto isn’t overridden, “rape crisis centers will lose 37% of their current state funding, which will drastically reduce their ability to respond to victims and provide prevention education,” SCCADVASA’s Executive Director Pamela Jacobs told the Palmetto Public Record.

thenation.com

and Haley said:

“Each of these lines attempts to serve a portion of our population for which we extend our sympathy and encouragement”. “But nevertheless, it is only a small portion of South Carolina’s chronically ill or abused. Overall, these special add-on lines distract from the agency’s broader mission of protecting South Carolina’s public health.”

Well, ok then, as long as she extends her sympathy and encouragement.

Then, in early 2014, among other idiotic gun proposals, such as allowing guns in bars and restaurants:

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley says she supports a proposed bill that would make it legal to carry guns without a permit or training, The State newspaper reports.

news.yahoo.com

Then, later in 2014, she won re-election by a bigger margin than in 2010. And she has expanded gun rights. And now, she and Jeb are touring women’s shelters and crowing about how great they both are on women’s issues.

The end. Sigh.

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WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:12:14am

re: #272 allegro

As newliweds my husband and I adopted two puppies, sisters. When they were about six months old hubby had cooked a prime rib outside on the spit. The fragrance had the whole neighborhood drooling. So he brings it in the house when its done and goes to take a shower. Upon his return to the kitchen the roast is on the floor and two very happy dogs are going to town on it. I came running when I heard hubby hollering and typical of us, he’s pissed and I’m LMAO.

Turns out he’d put the roast right at the edge of the table within easy reach of the dogs. I asked him what he would have done if he was them and this amazing, delicious chunk of cow was put there in front of him. His begrudging answer: “same damn thing.”

Never heard another word about it.

I used to have an Irish setter and a basset hound. One time I made a huge chicken, placed it waaaay back on the counter and put cans and stuff in front of it…and went to the bookstore. My ex’s dad was there so we didn’t think anything of ducking out for a bit.

We come back about an hour later and there is no chicken. Not as much as a bone to be found. We figured that the big dog got it off the counter and they both made it go away in short order. Completely away as in we never found even a remnant.

280
stpaulbear  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:13:35am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

I was only joking. Lighten up.

Some days weapons porn just rubs me the wrong way.

281
Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:13:43am

Ordered a pizza with extra pepperoni.
Open the box and see nothing but pepperoni and crust.
/Not a complaint.
:)

282
Jayleia  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:14:37am

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

This never gets old.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:14:41am

re: #271 Dr. Matt

I’ll pretend I’m a conservative for a moment: Our Founder Fathers are rolling in their graves if this is what the 2A has become.

I own firearms and have no problem with sane, well-trained Americans owning them as well. But, give me a fucking break….there is ZERO civilian application or need for a M249.

It’s a semi-auto version (hence the ‘S’ in the name), being made by the same firm that makes full-auto versions for the US Army, and other Western Hemisphere armies as well. Demand has been slow lately, so FN USA decided to see if the American civilian could be used to even out demand.

As for me, I wouldn’t buy it, even if I had the money.

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bratwurst  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:14:55am

re: #280 stpaulbear

Some days weapons porn just rubs me the wrong way.

I would say we should go at least a full week after a mass shooting incident…but we NEVER go a full week after a mass shooting incident. :(

285
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:15:35am

286
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:18:06am

Yes, I do believe it would:

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:18:30am

Did 10,000 people really show up for that rally in SC that Cruz et. al. attended to promote how Godly they were?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:19:40am

Assuming that the cop was murdered by a black man and one wants to understand motive, blaming the discussion of race and policing as the cause and specifically not blaming race and policing itself is the epitome of insanity.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:19:44am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, I do believe it would:

[Embedded content]

I heard you like rockets so…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:20:39am

re: #289 Varek Raith

I heard you like rockets so…

I was talking about arugula, dammit!!11!!

:D

291
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:22:06am

:D

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:22:39am

From a religious outlet:

10,000 Stand Up for Religious Freedom, Biblical Morals at SC’s ‘We Stand with God’ Rally

At least 10,000 people gathered at the South Carolina State House for “Stand with God, Pro-Family Rally,” where Republican presidential candidates Ted Cruz and Rick Perry and U.S. senators spoke about faith and moral issues such as same-sex marriage and abortion.

“I feel like it’s Sunday morning, and we have a call to worship on the (State House) steps,” presidential candidate and U.S. Sen. Cruz (R-Texas) told the crowd in in Columbia, South Carolina. “Our nation is in crisis right now. […]

Cruz also mentioned undercover Planned Parenthood videos that show the organization’s employees discussing the sell of aborted babies’ body parts.

[…]

Presidential hopeful Perry spoke about religious liberty, which, he said, is “being put in jeopardy today.”

[…]

U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina also addressed the crowd, and referred to the recent Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage across the nation.

“Bring your family and your faith and show the Supreme Court there is a Supreme Creator with a supreme law on marriage,” the rally’s website said.

The Supreme Court’s decision is an open attack on the sovereignty of every state in the Union,” the organizers of the rally said in an open letter to American citizens.

“As citizens and as patriots of America we cannot support nor obey the Supreme Court’s decision on same-sex-marriage. The repercussions of this decision will have far reaching negative effects on churches and religious ministries in days to come. As Christians we do not hate homosexual people but we must stand where God stands regarding sin. The purpose of We Stand with God is to encourage and empower God-fearing citizens to stand in this evil day. Timing is critical.”

They’re sounding very Confederate-ly.

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Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:24:44am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donnie Darko called, he wants his engine back.

294
BeachDem  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:25:26am

re: #287 freetoken

Did 10,000 people really show up for that rally in SC that Cruz et. al. attended to promote how Godly they were?

Sadly, yes.

myrtlebeachonline.com

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A Cranky One  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:26:02am

So Mrs Cranky and I got to see Carlos Santana in concert last night. Great band, very tight, with a sound you don’t hear often these days (Hammond organ w/Leslie, horn section, etc.). They played for 2 and a half hours and covered everything from old classics to the new material; interesting mixture of styles and sounds.

Santana live - a great concert!

Picture is what you might expect from a hand-held cell phone; sorry for the quality.

At one point Carlos announced: “I’m one of the people Trump would like to deport.”

Got an interesting reaction from the crowd. Especially from a crowd in one of the wealthy suburbs of Chicago. Don’t think Trump would be too happy with the crowd reaction though. ;)

296
Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:26:44am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was talking about arugula, dammit!!11!!

:D

If you said ‘asparagus’ you would’ve made a rocket pun.

297
freetoken  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:29:25am

re: #294 BeachDem

Well, I think this then supports my assertion that the heat we’re seeing in contemporary American politics really is about people in anguish over the collapse of their worldview.

There’s no rational way to argue that “God” needs you to “stand with” him (or her, or it…).

A more descriptive title for the gathering would be “Let’s Tear Our Sackcloth Asunder” rally, as they all lament the modern world upsetting their cart.

298
Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:32:04am

re: #285 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

[Embedded content]

My own take is that the shoot is a “Murder Tourist” in the same way that the people who showed up to violently resist the police in Ferguson were “riot tourists”, a phenomenon more often seen in Europe but which has made some appearances in recent years.

Note my highlighting the word ‘violently’, because that is the key to distinguishing if people are a legitimate part of Black Lives Matter. Protesting by staging sit-ins or marches, even non-violently crashing campaign rallies, those are all instances of legitimate protest. And using force to defend your self if unjustly attacked does not mean a protester is violent, it means that person had to use force to defend himself or herself.

By contrast, those young men who used mini-freezers to freeze bottles of drinking water and who then hurled the now-ice filled bottles at police officers, those men were being violent. They weren’t part of BLM, they were just using the event as an excuse to loot, burn and try to hurt people. This is a sick thing that some young men do, and its not a black thing or even an American thing (think of the soccer hooligans of Europe), though it is overwhelmingly a male thing.

The man who shot the Texas deputy was an even worse version of a riot tourist, someone who uses a riot or social movement as a excuse or cover for his desire to kill another human being. Such a man is not interested in the reform and justice that BLM seeks; Quite the opposite in fact. Such a man seeks what the abusive cops BLM protests seek: He wants to feel powerful and inflict pain and suffering on other human beings.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:32:56am

re: #295 A Cranky One

So Mrs Cranky and I got to see Carlos Santana in concert last night. Great band, very tight, with a sound you don’t hear often these days (Hammond organ w/Leslie, horn section, etc.). The played for 2 and a half hours and covered everything to old classics to the new material; interesting mixture of styles and sounds.

[Embedded content]

Picture is what you might expect from a hand-held cell phone; sorry for the quality.

At one point Carlos announced: “I’m one of the people Trump would like to deport.”

Got an interesting reaction from the crowd. Especially from a crowd in one of the wealthy suburbs of Chicago. Don’t think Trump would be too happy with the crowd reaction though. ;)

Great seats!

300
Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:33:18am

re: #295 A Cranky One

So Mrs Cranky and I got to see Carlos Santana in concert last night. Great band, very tight, with a sound you don’t hear often these days (Hammond organ w/Leslie, horn section, etc.). The played for 2 and a half hours and covered everything to old classics to the new material; interesting mixture of styles and sounds.

[Embedded content]

Picture is what you might expect from a hand-held cell phone; sorry for the quality.

At one point Carlos announced: “I’m one of the people Trump would like to deport.”

Got an interesting reaction from the crowd. Especially from a crowd in one of the wealthy suburbs of Chicago. Don’t think Trump would be too happy with the crowd reaction though. ;)

You were at Ravinia, weren’t you?

301
BeachDem  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:34:10am

re: #297 freetoken

Well, I think this then supports my assertion that the heat we’re seeing in contemporary American politics really is about people in anguish over the collapse of their worldview.

There’s no rational way to argue that “God” needs you to “stand with” him (or her, or it…).

A more descriptive title for the gathering would be “Let’s Tear Our Sackcloth Asunder” rally, as they all lament the modern world upsetting their cart.

That clip with “I love Jesus” playing throughout, and the quotes from the gang, including, of course, Tim Scott, is enough to make you puke.

302
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:37:27am

I think each immigrant should be assigned a drone that follows them around and if they step out of line, zap!

Keep the great ideas coming guys! This will win the White House!

303
A Cranky One  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:39:02am

re: #299 #CampaignZero

Great seats!

Yup! And some of the few seats under a roof; it was raining off and on all afternoon/evening. Acoustics were pretty good too since there were no walls to bounce around and muddy the sound.

304
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:40:13am

hahahahahahaaaaa

305
A Cranky One  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:40:47am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

You were at Ravinia, weren’t you?

Yes. First time there in a long time. We got to eat dinner under an umbrella in the rain. Romantic in a soggy sort of way. ;)

306
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:42:32am

Don’t blame me I voted for drones.

307
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:43:26am

Great “STFU” pic:

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bratwurst  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:43:45am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaaa

[Embedded content]

To paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill, Perry is a humble man with much to be humble about.

309
Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:44:23am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth

Numbers (the 4th book of Moses) 12:3

310
Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:44:56am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Skin color discrimination!

311
darthstar  Aug 30, 2015 • 10:57:09am

re: #215 A Mom Anon

I love you, Mom. I mean that not in the filial sense or romantic one. I just love that you’re a part of this little green community.

312
Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:05:02am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

I was at Ravinia one time with the CSO performing Mahler’s 3rd with Esenbach conducting. The only thing that annoyed me was that Ravinia is on the flight path to O’Hare and during the quiet passages you could hear the jets as they came in on approach.

I was also at Ravinia when Big Head Todd & The Monsters with George Thorogood & the Delaware Destroyers were on the same ticket. Good Times.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:11:27am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, I do believe it would:

[Embedded content]

This is why since that V2 launched from White Sands landed in that cemetery in Juarez, we’ve been pretty particular about launching over water. The Russians don’t seem to give a shit, but even the Chinese are building a new launch site on Hainan.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:30:55am

re: #270 Nyet

Rejection of science on ideological grounds, sounds familiar. Can’t quite put my finger on it…

315
Nyet  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:33:04am

re: #314 Amory Blaine

Rejection of science on ideological grounds, sounds familiar. Can’t quite put my finger on it…

conservapedia.com

316
Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:37:54am

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

It’s a semi-auto version (hence the ‘S’ in the name), being made by the same firm that makes full-auto versions for the US Army, and other Western Hemisphere armies as well. Demand has been slow lately, so FN USA decided to see if the American civilian could be used to even out demand.

As for me, I wouldn’t buy it, even if I had the money.

I damned well what it is. Don’t talk down to me. Ever.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2015 • 11:46:09am

I’m having issues with my laptop staying connected and after 4 times of writing a response to DF I give up. Suffice it to say this. I agree with the right to bear arms, however there need to be at least as many protections in place as there are to operate a car. Second, when you have had negative experiences with guns, as I have, having them around does not make you always feel safer. I am sorry I couldn’t get in here quick enough to make a timely answer.

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SirMixALot  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:39:31am

re: #85 William Lewis

Watched Arsenal just squeak by Newcastle United via an own goal. The beautiful game makes it easy to forget American Football still exists.

Are you a fellow Gunner or just a BPL fan?

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SirMixALot  Aug 31, 2015 • 12:30:31pm

re: #156 Nyet

Maybe, but that’s not what people were saying back then.

The story was “a white guy kills a black teenager”. There were several posts at LGF about the legitimacy of the term “white Hispanic”.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

I’m a white Hispanic. It is a valid term because its a reality for many of us. Hispanic is not a race. It’s an ethnicity. Many or most Hispanics are brown skin, but not all. Some of us are of European descent. Some of us have blonde hair and blue eyes. Some of us are of Asian, African or Native American decent. Many of us are mix of all of the above. I have light skin and white facial features, but even I have Asian and African ancestry.

However, to most Hispanics, Zimmerman would not be defined as a white Hispanic or white Latino. He has obvious mulatto features. You have to have more European features to pass as a white Latino.


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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