Breitbart Hack Ben Shapiro: The Arrest of Anti-Gay Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Is “Tyranny”

They’re really getting nuts now
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The right wing propagandists of the Internet are always whacked out. That’s a given. But the rhetoric coming out of them about the arrest of anti-gay Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis is so over the top it seems like parody. For example, this crazed Facebook rant about “living in the shadow of tyranny” by Breitbart “News” hack Ben Shapiro:

The rule of law is dead — unless you’re a Christian or a conservative, in which case the left will use the law to throw you in prison.

Complete lack of rule of law is anarchy; selective rule of law is tyranny.

Any nation that throws Kim Davis in jail but leaves Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Gavin Newsome, Kamala Harris, mayors of sanctuary cities, and Washington D.C. clerks who refuse to issue concealed carry permits on the loose is living in the shadow of tyranny.

This disconnected, reality-challenged blurt actually garnered more than 500 likes from Shapiro’s even crazier right wing readers.

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226 comments

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:01:13pm

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Archangelus  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:01:49pm
This disconnected, reality-challenged blurt actually garnered more than 500 likes from Shapiro’s even crazier right wing readers.

Of course they liked it, they’re who he’s pandering to in this day and age…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:01:57pm

Here’s a screenshot in case he deletes it:

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:03:13pm

Gavin Newsome?

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:04:06pm

Glibertarians are twisting themselves into knots:

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:04:23pm

re: #4 #CampaignZero

Gavin Newsome?

Mayor of San Francisco, who gave marriage licenses to gays before it was legal to do so.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:06:20pm

“selective rule of law is tyranny”

Here’s Ben all ‘on the other hand’ on Cliven Bundy:

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:06:21pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Mayor of San Francisco, who gave marriage licenses to gays before it was legal to do so.

RWNJ memory better than mine.

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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:06:43pm

well good for Kim for being bold and brave enough to stand for her religious principals… now after you’ve done some jail time, feel free to resign because holding a public office, where you have to serve the needs of all of the people in the county, not just those that you approve of, is kind of the job description.

After you leave office, you can shoo people off of your lawn and make sure that none of your pets engage in any of those illicit homosexual activities and write your monosyllabic memoirs and become the brief shining comet in the RWNJ constellation and become forgotten as nothing more than a side show prop for the religious fundies to use as an example of their ongoing persecution complex.

So be happy that you’re an American sweetie, you’ve lived a completely pointless life thus far and we can hope that your kids come out better.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:07:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:09:13pm

re: #10 freetoken

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spoof account.

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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:09:43pm

re: #10 freetoken

funny, I thought Barack Obama had deported more folks here illegally than the previous administration even though the raw numbers of people illegally immigrating here were down….

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:10:11pm

re: #4 #CampaignZero

Gavin Newsome?

GAVIN NEWSOME IS TYRANT

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:11:53pm
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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:11:55pm

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Yup, but other tweets today and posts on forums have said the basic same thing, pointing out that Davis is supposedly a Democrat.

As if that matters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:12:27pm

re: #15 freetoken

Yup, but other tweets today and posts on forums have said the basic same thing, pointing out that Davis is supposedly a Democrat.

As if that matters.

Dana Muhgunz was Tweeting about it all morning.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:14:12pm

re: #15 freetoken

Yup, but other tweets today and posts on forums have said the basic same thing, pointing out that Davis is supposedly a Democrat.

For some reason, that’s supposed to be a great ‘gotcha, libruls.’

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:14:54pm
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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:15:45pm

re: #17 jaunte

isn’t it cool to see Paul, Cruz, Jindal and Huckabee be so “bipartisany” in defense of Davis, does that mean that they’re secret moderates? //////////////

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:20:28pm

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:21:07pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

When the mayor of San Francisco and President Obama resign, then we can talk about Kim Davis:

It’s too early to talk about Kim Davis.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:21:11pm

This appears to be a popular fallacy today:

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:21:17pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

Comments 10 14 and 18 are not visible. Do I need to enter a special code to see them?

Tried reloading?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:21:47pm

re: #23 Teukka

Thanks. That worked.

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S'latch  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:22:58pm

I am actually starting to get frightened by the insanity of the right wing nut jobs recently. I mean it. I am actually starting to get nervous about what might happen next. I probably just need to relax, but I can’t help it. Kim Davis’ self-martyrdom in the name of religious bigotry, and the the right wingers’ insane defense of her and cries of persecution, it’s just scary. When you realize that these people are serious, that they believe what they are saying, it’s terrifying because you can’t be sure how far they will go.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:25:20pm

re: #25 S’latch

I am actually starting to get frightened by the insanity of the right wing nut jobs recently. I mean it. I am actually starting to get nervous about what might happen next. I probably just need to relax, but I can’t help it. Kim Davis self-martyrdom in the name of religious bigotry, and the the right wingers’ insane defense of her and cries of persecution, it’s just scary. When you realize that these people are serious, that they believe what they are saying, it’s terrifying because you can’t be sure how far they will go.

That’s what concerns me too. I mean, will they go thru door one, have mental breakdowns and simply turning into self-defecating heaps crawling or all four on the streets, or will they have mental break downs and go postal on innocents? Or will a big enough group have a foile a deux and try to do a power grab?

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Chan Kobun  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:29:11pm

re: #25 S’latch

You’re not alone. This ramping up of hate rhetoric was what happened right before Oklahoma City.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:29:27pm
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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:29:39pm

Wingnut Butthurt Level = Massive

At least they quit bitching about that mountain.

Dear Lord how wearisome.

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S'latch  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:30:55pm

re: #26 Teukka

There are nut jobs out there who are hearing this “War on Christians” bullshit as a call to arms. How long is it before one or more of them does something violent? I don’t know. I just have a bad sense about it. Or maybe, those hideous pictures of that hideous Kim Davis is freaking me out and bringing up repressed memories of Kathy Bates playing Annie Wilkes in “Misery.”

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:31:06pm

re: #27 Chan Kobun

You’re not alone. This ramping up of hate rhetoric was what happened right before Oklahoma City.

Yep. And before the assassination of Olof Palme in 1986.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:31:41pm

NO ONE MAKES THE TRUMP LOOK BAD!

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:33:50pm

It’s nice to see that there is one Democrat on the planet that the wingnuts don’t want to be in jail.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:38:31pm
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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:39:01pm

Its becoming increasingly obvious that conservatives have no idea what the words they use actually mean.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:39:07pm

re: #26 Teukka

That’s what concerns me too. I mean, will they go thru door one, have mental breakdowns and simply turning into self-defecating heaps crawling or all four on the streets, or will they have mental break downs and go postal on innocents? Or will a big enough group have a foile a deux and try to do a power grab?

And remember how much Jesus just loves killing in his name.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:40:23pm

Er, no, Shapiro.

It’s tyranny when a public official scraps the law and their oath of office to deny citizens their constitutional rights, much as this quack Davis is doing.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:41:59pm

re: #36 Belafon

And remember how much Jesus just loves killing in his name.

Yeah. But would they get it? I mean, say they get struck down by a bolt of lightning by Pops as he finally has had it with these lunatics, and they will simply go “Hurr durr, HAAAAAARP! hurr durr! Conspiraceeeeeeee! elventy!!11111!.

*smfh*

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:43:53pm

re: #38 Teukka

Yeah. But would they get it? I mean, say they get struck down by a bolt of lightning by Pops as he finally has had it with these lunatics, and they will simply go “Hurr durr, HAAAAAARP! hurr durr! Conspiraceeeeeeee! elventy!!11111!.

*smfh*

Considering they think God needs help defending traditional marriage, they’d probably say he just missed and it was meant for all the gay lovers.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:44:15pm

re: #35 Kragar

Its becoming increasingly obvious that conservatives have no idea what words they use actually mean.

it isn’t hard for them when we have actual propagation of newspeak that asserts that liberal == socialist == communist == fascist == nazi

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:44:57pm

re: #39 Belafon

Considering they think God needs help defending traditional marriage, they’d probably say he just missed and it was meant for all the gay lovers.

Indeed.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:46:10pm

re: #25 S’latch

I am actually starting to get frightened by the insanity of the right wing nut jobs recently. I mean it. I am actually starting to get nervous about what might happen next. I probably just need to relax, but I can’t help it. Kim Davis’ self-martyrdom in the name of religious bigotry, and the the right wingers’ insane defense of her and cries of persecution, it’s just scary. When you realize that these people are serious, that they believe what they are saying, it’s terrifying because you can’t be sure how far they will go.

The far right is why I have a Wisconsin CCL.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:48:37pm

re: #40 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it isn’t hard for them when we have actual propagation of newspeak that asserts that liberal == socialist == communist == fascist == nazi

Remember, that’s from a RW “intellectual”.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:48:42pm

re: #29 b.d.

Wingnut Butthurt Level = Massive

At least they quit bitching about that mountain.

How soon they forget: DENALI !

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:50:19pm

re: #42 William Lewis

The far right is why I have a Wisconsin CCL.

Don’t need one, yet. If I ever do, we’ll already be a ‘constitutional carry’ state.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:51:07pm

Fundraiser for Cruz tonight:

The Nathaniel Center is a place for actors, dancers and musicians to practice and present their talents. Unlike other centers, there’s a moral theme to the work performed.
….
In Hebrew, “Nathaniel” means “gift of God,” and the Sarvadis are sharing the gift of personal and corporate success with the community, she said. One of the goals of the center is “taking the arts back for God,” she said.

“It has gotten to be so lewd in so many ways: the language, the costumes, the story line, the plot,” she said. “I feel the Lord wants (the arts) back.”
chron.com

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:51:45pm

Infinite loops on the twitterz:

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:52:32pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:55:23pm

re: #47 freetoken

My lens is the Word of God, and what I’m surrounded by is grace.

although it could also be prozac

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:56:04pm

re: #46 jaunte

Fundraiser for Cruz tonight:

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Why am I thinking a lot of Amy Grant and very little Mississippi Mass Choir?

“When I Rose This Morning” - Mississippi Mass Choir

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:56:17pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

GAVIN NEWSOME IS TYRANT

They are so reaching with Newsome. That’s why I lol’d

Hell, reminds me of their continuous butthurt with PELOSI!!111!!!

What ever happened with that?

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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:57:54pm

re: #49 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how awesome that the word of God can be translated from the Hebrew to the Aramaic to the Greek and then the Latin and into German and then into English, it really is divine to think that this lens is so crystal clear…..

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:58:23pm

From Traces of Texas:

A 1938 strike at a Coca Cola plant in Houston was led by women. Here we see a strike breaker, accompanied by a policeman, leaving the plant’s enclosed yard and being jeered by women as he/she passes by.

Yes, even Texas used to have unions.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:58:43pm

re: #52 piratedan

how awesome that the word of God can be translated from the Hebrew to the Aramaic to the Greek and then the Latin and into German and then into English, it really is divine to think that this lens is so crystal clear…..

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:58:59pm

What I Learned Reading Fox News Comments Today:

1) “liberals” are pooping their pants in fear because trump’s pledge means unity of conservatives this means we will win! win! win!

2) trump pledging unity means he has given away his leverage and thrown in with the evil rino republican establishment and this is the last straw i no longer will consider voting for him

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:59:16pm

Hey, Christians, let me know when you’re blocked from going to church, and from praying in your closet.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:59:41pm

re: #47 freetoken

Christians are the minority in today’s culture.

LOL

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:00:36pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

He meant, of course, True Christians.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:00:57pm

re: #52 piratedan

how awesome that the word of God can be translated from the Hebrew to the Aramaic to the Greek and then the Latin and into German and then into English, it really is divine to think that this lens is so crystal clear…..

and yet although each translation is divinely inspired and guided, and jesus is divine and perfect, still somehow he doesn’t express himself very clearly and we need interpreters to explain that he didn’t mean all that soft hearted commie stuff

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:02:05pm
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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:02:39pm

re: #59 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I keep wondering when we’re going to get to the charity, forgiveness and tolerance parts but they always seem to get lost somehow in the personal persecution cycle of the wash….

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:04:16pm

Another infinite loop:

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:05:57pm

re: #62 freetoken

Another infinite loop:

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Stupid people in ‘murica. Stupid stupid stupid.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:06:08pm

Twitter is an infinite loop generator.

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Chan Kobun  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:08:11pm

re: #35 Kragar

Its becoming increasingly obvious that conservatives have no idea what the words they use actually mean.

I saw this in the comments over at driftglass and have been using a form of it for some time now every time this subject comes up:

When you hear a right-winger say something like this - something they blatantly stole from someone on the left using it effectively against some scumfuck righty - it doesn’t help to think of them as a panicky, flailing, desperate person stuck on the defensive. (They usually are, but that’s not the point.)

Instead, think of them as a character. Specifically, think of them as some wide-eyed naïf character who learns a Word You Can’t Say On Television from some authority figure in their life. This is a situation that happens in cartoons quite frequently, but also happens in live-action sitcoms… and real life, as the parents in the audience can surely attest. (Example: In the episode Sailor Mouth, Spongebob learns a WYCSOTV off a dumpster behind the Krusty Krab.) “Gosh,” the character says, “what a great word! It’s just so useful! Why did they never teach me this word in school?” So the little moppet uses the WYCSOTV frequently, in every situation, and seems puzzled when adults are scandalized. “But why do they think it’s bad? I mean, I’m just using it like they do!”

The two main differences between these episodes and the reality in which we live: 1. The only people scandalized by these terms are right-wingers who can’t stand their flaws being pointed out, again and again and again, and 2. There exists no entity in this country that has both the will and the authority to sit our darling little RWNJ children down and explain to them, as an authority figure always does in these situations on TV, that there is a time and place for these words to be used. In a perfect world, our media would take up that job, but we don’t live in a perfect world, do we?

Thus do our own little Spongebobs continue willfully and gleefully using the WYCSOTV they picked up in conversation with the saner part of our country, never being told that they’re making a spectacle of themselves in polite company.

TL;DR version: *dolphin noise* ‘em.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:11:19pm

‘Night all. It’s morning in Mercia!

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:11:26pm

Meanwhile, the real Nazi-lovers weigh in:

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:13:45pm

re: #64 freetoken

Twitter is an infinite loop generator.

I break those infinite loops by blocking and muting. The best way to deal with idiots on Twitter is to shut them out and ignore them. Otherwise they overwhelm you with stupidity.

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CleverToad  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:13:58pm

Re: #25, #26, #27, #31

The ramped-up hate was also festering in Dallas 1963. This theme music sounds a little too familiar.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:14:28pm

re: #67 freetoken

Meanwhile, the real Nazi-lovers weigh in:

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occidentaldissent is a horrific white supremacist site.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:17:21pm

Sometimes I think Twitter was created by a philosophy professor who needed a source of fallacious arguments for his students.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:18:36pm

re: #69 CleverToad

Re: #25, #26, #27, #31

The ramped-up hate was also festering in Dallas 1963. This theme music sounds a little too familiar.

Indeed it does. Question is how badly will it end.
*smh*

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:20:00pm

re: #48 jaunte

Yet when anyone goes politically incorrect on their asses, it’s TYRRANY!!!!

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:20:20pm

Big News from the Cruz rally:

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:20:23pm

I’m more than willing to put Obama, Clinton on trial for whatever “crimes” they committed, but I have one condition. Bush and Cheney go first.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:20:55pm
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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:21:59pm

I do not care what his political leanings are, David Gergen has the most soothing voice, so rare in the pundit arena. On CNN. I’ll listen to whatever he says.

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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:22:24pm

re: #72 Teukka

well to be fair, I still marvel that no one has taken a shot at POTUS or FLOTUS yet. There’s been all kinds of baiting going on by the other side that the media writes off a political rhetoric but I think we all suspect that there’s two camps over on the other side. Those folks that are intrinsically deranged by the President’s color/appearance/name and those that channel that anger/frustration/fear to their own ends.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:23:13pm
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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:23:24pm

It’s all a plot by the Global Elite dontjaknow….

From FreeRepublic….

Homosexual marriage furthers the NWO agenda of population reduction.

So, I guess gays and lesbians getting married will decrease the population because otherwise they wouldn’t get married and therefore… ah…. somebody help me out here.

Also, the Griftmaster In Chief over there has posted his manifesto…

I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!

Free Republic is and always will remain a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-constitution, pro-liberty site.

The recent SCOTUS ruling against marriage is a travesty against God, country and constitution. It is a shot against Christianity. The government has now officially declared war on Christianity and against individual Christians. Kim Davis is the first casualty who was actually jailed, but will not be the last. The Marxist/fascists have now taken over our government from the top down and will attempt to stomp out all resistance and the black-robed nazi judges will do their bidding. Any Christian speaking out against homosexualism will be targeted for the re-education camps (they’re actually doing this already in the military). Christianity is now a hate group and the bible a hate book. Thou shalt not quote from the holy bible.

Your church and your pastor will be next. And then you.

America is and always has been a Judeo-Christian nation. Our nation was founded on the great truth that our unalienable rights are bestowed upon us by God our Creator and cannot be lawfully removed by a godless socialist/fascist government gone awry. We will not comply with this obviously unconstitutional ruling that flies in the face of the first amendment and the very principles our nation was founded on. If we fail to successfully resist, then the great Marxist/fascist coup will have succeeded and America will no longer exist as a free nation.

This is a war for God, family, country and we cannot afford to lose.

And this is only the opening salvo. We are about to experience the greatest tyranny since the communists took Russia and the nazis took Germany. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now. The same God that gave us life, gave us liberty and as much as they want to try, government cannot stomp out God or liberty. God lives on in our our hearts and man will always yearn to live free.

As long as God gives us breath, we will fight to defend our God, our Constitution and our Liberty.

As the man said, give me liberty or give me death! freerepublic.com

Hits all the high points, reeducation camps, socialist / fascist, communists, war on Christianity. Apparently any mention of her less than stellar past relationships, anything suggesting surrender to “She should have resigned if she can’t do her job” will be treated most severely.

As for me, same sex marriage affects me to exactly the same degree that the phases of the moon do, none. On the other hand, it does greatly affect the quality of life and personal relationships of some friends and acquaintances of mine. Since I want my friends to be happy, I support SSM. I guess that when America crashes down, I’ll be, in some small part, to blame.

RBS

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:23:30pm

re: #78 piratedan

well to be fair, I still marvel that no one has taken a shot at POTUS or FLOTUS yet. There’s been all kinds of baiting going on by the other side that the media writes off a political rhetoric but I think we all suspect that there’s two camps over on the other side. Those folks that are intrinsically deranged by the President’s color/appearance/name and those that channel that anger/frustration/fear to their own ends.

*nods*

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:05pm

re: #40 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it isn’t hard for them when we have actual propagation of newspeak that asserts that liberal == socialist == communist == fascist == nazi

All are simply different ways of saying Enemy!

Then they screech like Donald Sutherland in Invasion of The Body Snatchers.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:26:13pm

Praise be!

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:27:18pm

Nazi lover tweets back:

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:28:00pm

I didn’t know I had a rabbi.

Charles, will you be my rabbi?

Anyone?

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:28:37pm

re: #55 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

2) trump pledging unity means he has given away his leverage and thrown in with the evil rino republican establishment and this is the last straw i no longer will consider voting for him

As if Trump will keep his word.

You know he’ll go third party the second he loses the GOP nomination. It’s always been his way or the highway.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:29:06pm

re: #85 freetoken

I didn’t know I had a rabbi.

Charles, will you be my rabbi?

Anyone?

You may not have a rabbi, but do you have a #Rabbi?

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:29:55pm

re: #83 jaunte

If I am elected, Cruz says,
When! the crowd yells.
Amen, says Cruz, with arms outstretched @cd_hooks

Praise be!

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:30:28pm

I think I’d make a rather bad Jew.

Hmmm…. what is the rabbi’s name on Southpark?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:31:50pm
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:34:56pm
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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:35:20pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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What the hell does Chuck C Johnson know about TRUTH? His work has exactly the same relationship to TRUTH that a 20 dollar BJ from a working girl has with LOVE.

Upchuck, your gravy train has ended, you’re going to be looking at a lot of Raman noodles.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:35:53pm

Maybe Dr. Schwarz can be my rabbi.

And I can go from place to place by bouncing, not having to flex my knees.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:37:10pm

re: #28 jaunte

Well you have to kind of reach out at someone in order to punch them…

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:37:30pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:39:53pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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If someone doesn’t throw a net over him, he’s heading for a tower with a scoped rifle.

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:41:24pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

Well you have to kind of reach out at someone in order to punch them…

I watched that video, and this is one case where I don’t have a problem. The individual in question came up from behind the security guy, and grabbed him around the waist. This is, IMHO, a self-inflicted injury on his part.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:41:25pm

re: #91 jaunte

“Today for the first time in History a Christian woman was put in jail for standing up for her beliefs,” says Cruz.

Joan of Arc would like a word…

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:41:40pm

Cruz gives off a real Dead Zone vibe.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:43:04pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Joan of Arc would like a word…

Rosa Parks would, too.

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piratedan  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:43:09pm

re: #99 jaunte

Stillsonesque… almost as if he halfway believes half of the shit he spews

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:43:39pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

That does sort of discount 2,000 years of saints and martyrs, but he knows his audience.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:43:50pm

Evening Lizardim.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:45:02pm

re: #102 jaunte

That does sort of discount 2,000 years of saints and martyrs, but he knows his audience.

Yeah, I was about to say, Christians have been getting arrested and killed around the world since, well, Christ himself. I’m sure there had to be some wimminz in there somewhere.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:47:23pm

re: #102 jaunte

That does sort of discount 2,000 years of saints and martyrs, but he knows his audience.

As a Christian the claim really bothers me. Then again, Ted Cruz bothers me in general.

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kirkspencer  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:47:29pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Joan of Arc would like a word…

As would many of the temperance and suffragettes. Oh, and let us not forget a variety of abolitionists, a range of saints besides Joan, several protestants and catholics in the wide range of wars of religion over the centuries …

But it sounds good to the hysterically [sic] ignorant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:48:18pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:49:30pm

Oh and BTW it’s truly an extra good day when the court calls a big penalty on the NFL as well as on the likes of Ms Davis.

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TedStriker  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:49:37pm

re: #69 CleverToad

Re: #25, #26, #27, #31

The ramped-up hate was also festering in Dallas 1963. This theme music sounds a little too familiar.

And the Birchers and CTers were all wrapped in that shit too, both in the leadup and afterwards.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:49:41pm

re: #99 jaunte

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Cruz gives off a real Dead Zone vibe.

Between him & Trump.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:50:38pm

re: #108 Great White Snark

Oh and BTW it’s truly an extra good day when the court calls a big penalty on the NFL as well as on the likes of Ms Davis.

My Facebook feed is absolutely blowing up right now. My more liberal college friends are engaged in a hot debate with the conservative nutjobs in the group over her “brave” stand and her arrest. It’s been an interesting day.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:51:20pm

re: #104 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I was about to say, Christians have been getting arrested and killed around the world since, well, Christ himself. I’m sure there had to be some wimminz in there somewhere.

Closer to home: Anne Hutchinson.
en.wikipedia.org

(And my teenaged crush, Dorothy Day, busted at 17 for demanding women’s vote, at 79 with Cesar Chavez.)

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:51:37pm

...

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:52:12pm

re: #99 jaunte

which is better, a Dead Zone vibe or an Uncanny Valley vibe? Obviously the latter didn’t work in 2012.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:53:39pm

re: #110 #CampaignZero

Between him & Trump.

Trump’s Veep.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:54:12pm

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

As if Trump will keep his word.

You know he’ll go third party the second he loses the GOP nomination. It’s always been his way or the highway.

“hey! they violated the pledge by cheating me outta the nomination!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:55:10pm

re: #85 freetoken

I didn’t know I had a rabbi.

Charles, will you be my rabbi?

Anyone?

I’ll be your rabbi. Rabbanit. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:55:59pm

re: #89 freetoken

I think I’d make a rather bad Jew.

Hmmm…. what is the rabbi’s name on Southpark?

Gerald Brovlofski. But he’s a lawyer, not a rabbi.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:56:21pm
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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:56:56pm

re: #115 jaunte

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Cruz is the only 2016er that can ape Trumpism with any real feeling—and man, does he have fun doing it

Trump’s Veep.

No way… If we evolved from Apes, explain why there is still a Trump? /Cant_Explain_That

RBS

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:57:33pm

“Betty and Richard Odgaard, who plan to erect 1,000 billboards against same-sex unions, form part of Republican candidate’s leadership team for Iowa caucuses”
theguardian.com

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:58:02pm

re: #113 gocart mozart

<blockquoteclass=”twitter-tweet” lang=”en”>

@tedcruz Watch brilliant legal scholar and eminent appellate attorney Ted Cruz pretend not to understand how the first amendment works.

— gocartmozart(@attymix1) September 4, 2015

Well, he just thinks it works like his bible. Pick the parts he likes and deny the rest. I’d make a cherry picker joke but his surname makes that wildly inappropriate. These guys. 1st Amendment suddenly lacks all but free speech. The biblical divorce laws disappear. Did he pitch and bitch about PP? Forgot PP gets no federal money for abortion?

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:59:52pm

re: #121 jaunte

“Betty and Richard Odgaard, who plan to erect 1,000 billboards against same-sex unions, form part of Republican candidate’s leadership team for Iowa caucuses”
theguardian.com

Is that one each to offset their Ashley Madison accounts?

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:00:09pm

re: #121 jaunte

“Betty and Richard Odgaard, who plan to erect 1,000 billboards against same-sex unions, form part of Republican candidate’s leadership team for Iowa caucuses”
theguardian.com

Because if gays & lesbians are allowed to marry, it threatens the ability of a 3 time divorced county clerk to make a babby with her future 3rd husband, while married to her first husband, and have it adopted by her second husband.

(That makes my eyes roll in opposite directions just writing that)

RBS

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:00:16pm
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:00:45pm

re: #123 Great White Snark

The Guardian writer saves a joke for the ending:

“It is unclear when the second of their 1,000 billboards will be erected.”

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:01:10pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:02:01pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Wonder what that graph would look like if Catholics were carved out from the rest of Christianity, given that many ‘Christianity’ don’t consider Catholics ‘true’ Christianst, but apostates.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:02:27pm

CONSTITUTION, HOW THE FUCK DOES IT WORK?

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:02:30pm

*shudder*

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:04:10pm

re: #127 Kragar

Wow. The “fuck minorities” racism of the GOP keeps getting worse and worse.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:05:08pm

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

CONSTITUTION, HOW THE FUCK DOES IT WORK?

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Looking at that photo makes it easy to imagine Cliven Bundy as marriage #5.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:06:08pm

Oh, one of the best lines from the FB argument between my Christian friends was when one of the wingnuts said something to the effect of, “If this was Germany in 1938, would you rather she resign, or stay in office and resist the unjust laws?” My jaw hit the floor at that.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:08:22pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll be your rabbi. Rabbanit. :)

Vicious Rabbanit —-> klezmer garage band.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:08:43pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Oh, one of the best lines from the FB argument between my Christian friends was when one of the wingnuts said something to the effect of, “If this was 1938, would you rather she resign, or stay in office and resist the unjust laws?” My jaw hit the floor at that.

The thinking that all laws are equal really is messed up.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:08:47pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Did you explain any of the subtle differences between gay marriage and the Nuremberg Race Laws?

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:09:28pm

re: #136 jaunte

Did you explain any of the subtle differences between gay marriage and the Nuremberg Race Laws?

That was about the point where the thread exploded, but yes, we tried explaining it multiple times. This particular individual is a militant anti-abortionist, so it’s not like logic and reason are really going to have any effect.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:10:41pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Oh, one of the best lines from the FB argument between my Christian friends was when one of the wingnuts said something to the effect of, “If this was Germany in 1938, would you rather she resign, or stay in office and resist the unjust laws?” My jaw hit the floor at that.

This has been a very, very common theme in the wonderful world of wingnuts. I’ve been seeing it all day at Red State and FR.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:11:35pm

I’m in infinite loop #3, this one with a theocrat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:43pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Vicious Rabbanit —-> klezmer garage band.

lol

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:15:12pm

Waaay OT but anyone else read Three Body Problem?

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:16:07pm

re: #139 freetoken

I’m in infinite loop #3, this one with a theocrat.

So was this one.

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gwangung  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:16:49pm

re: #141 Great White Snark

Waaay OT but anyone else read Three Body Problem?

Slow going for me….translation blues. But the feeling of a palpably different culture, with different referents and values is interesting to me….

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:17:11pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Oh, one of the best lines from the FB argument between my Christian friends was when one of the wingnuts said something to the effect of, “If this was Germany in 1938, would you rather she resign, or stay in office and resist the unjust laws?” My jaw hit the floor at that.

Inclusion laws v. exclusion laws.

Jesus!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:17:48pm

Think the Tigers suck? This sweater sucks more==>

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:18:32pm

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

AACK

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:19:17pm

re: #128 Eric The Fruit Bat

22 % of Americans are Catholic, 53% are protestant, 8% are other Christians.

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:22:33pm

re: #143 gwangung

Slow going for me….translation blues. But the feeling of a palpably different culture, with different referents and values is interesting to me….

Getting immersed in those days of communist fervor sure put a twist on alien environment for this very western man. I mean, wow was it like that? Then of course the actual alien culture. I’m reminded of Anathem in some ways. .

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KGxvi  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:25:03pm

re: #138 calochortus

There’s always been a part of conservativism that believes things used to be better. That jazzrocknrolldrugsthepillnofaultdivorceIntegration ruined everything and if we just went back to doing things how they used to do it, we would be so much better off.

I think there’s more than a few conservatives that think they were born in the wrong time, that they were born too late. Someone, in one of the earlier threads today, mentioned how young conservatives act and sound old, it’s the same thing.

I wonder if some of them feel like living in an age of (relatively speaking) peace and prosperity bums them out. They must feel like they don’t have a chance to stand up to some true evil. between being born in the wrong decade and not having what they feel is a great challenge, they have no choice but to attack progress

Of course, few of them probably willingly joined the armed forces. Which means most of my thoughts are just bullshit and they’re just assholes who don’t like other people being happy

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:25:32pm

These people.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:28:54pm

I made the point to one of my other more liberal Christian friends: People like my wingnut friend, or the guys mentioned in jaunte’s #150 above - they make all us Christians look bad, which by reflection, makes Christ look bad. I wish these people understood the harm they’re doing to the religion to which they claim to adhere. Argle bargle.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:29:11pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:01pm

re: #150 jaunte

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These people.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:11pm

re: #127 Kragar

Rand Paul Thinks ‘Lack Of Assimilation’ Is Native Americans’ Problem

Hard to assimilate when you’re dead or dying.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:14pm

re: #149 KGxvi

I suspect a fair number of them yearn to be “somebody.” They do feel that if they had been living at a specific time and place in history (and with the wisdom of hindsight) they would have done something Right and Heroic.

Kinda sad really. At least for anyone over the age of about 25.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:19pm

re: #150 jaunte

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:24pm

re: #152 freetoken

After the dust settles? What dust? It’s pretty clear that she was in contempt of court.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:30:35pm

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

Think the Tigers suck? This sweater sucks more==>

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If I was a fan I’d totally buy it. Fandom = outrageous shit.

BUT, I bet it’s like 140 or some other rip off price, so then, no, I wouldn’t buy it.

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:31:37pm

Seriously need someone, anyone who has survived real religious oppression to scold lthe living hell out of anyone that calls this the end of religious freedom. I’m a fortunate son never ever faced such a thing myself.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:31:58pm

You do not have the religious freedom to maintain a posh $80k/year job and be a bigoted asshole to people with whom you don’t agree. More importantly, you do not have the religious freedom to willfully break the law. Christianity does teach civil disobedience, but it does not say you shouldn’t own the consequences of your crimes.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:32:21pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:32:24pm

lather reince repeat

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:32:38pm

re: #157 jaunte

Dreher agrees. His point is that somehow the true believers will shrink from public service and withdraw into their fortress.

For the likes of Dreher and Burk that is a disaster.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:33:10pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

Seriously need someone, anyone who has survived real religious oppression to scold lthe living hell out of anyone that calls this the end of religious freedom. I’m a fortunate son never ever faced such a thing myself.

There are a great many Christians in other countries who would tear these pampered babies a new asshole for their whining. It’s absurd. Get some perspective, you gormless twatwaffles!

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:33:45pm

re: #163 freetoken

Not having a bunch of mini-tyrants in county jobs would be an overall plus.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:34:53pm

Yes, I’m going on a bit of a rant here. The sorry state of American Christianity has been my big crusade for the last 15 or so years. It’s beyond stupid how entitled and hypocritical American churches have become. The Body of Christ here in the US is not well.

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Bear  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:39:21pm

re: #165 jaunte

How about in state and federal.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:40:31pm

re: #167 Bear

Sure, I was thinking specifically about the textbook approval process here in Texas.

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:41:10pm

RE: Trump security punching Latino man, is that the same security man that escorted Jorge out of the press conference?

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:41:51pm

re: #166 thedopefishlives

Yes, I’m going on a bit of a rant here. The sorry state of American Christianity has been my big crusade for the last 15 or so years. It’s beyond stupid how entitled and hypocritical American churches have become. The Body of Christ here in the US is not well.

“Send $1000 or more now to help our humble TV network, car collection, travel and vacations to assure your blessedness for heaven.”

God may I borrow just one lightning bolt for this one little transmitter cable? Please? Yes the one between the dish and the studio. Thanks, me.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:43:01pm

re: #166 thedopefishlives

Yes, I’m going on a bit of a rant here. The sorry state of American Christianity has been my big crusade for the last 15 or so years. It’s beyond stupid how entitled and hypocritical American churches have become. The Body of Christ here in the US is not well.

I’m not sure when it was that American churches were more perfect.

I don’t think there has ever been a time when the average adherent of any religion was truly intellectually engaged with their faith. Some people have always used faith to help them be better, some used it to justify whatever it was they wanted to do. Some have just used the faith of others to gain an advantage for themselves.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:44:50pm

re: #166 thedopefishlives

Yes, I’m going on a bit of a rant here. The sorry state of American Christianity has been my big crusade for the last 15 or so years. It’s beyond stupid how entitled and hypocritical American churches have become. The Body of Christ here in the US is not well.

Amen. I’ve said it before that I do not blame anyone for becoming atheist when exposed to American “Christianity”. It’s pure God given spiritual self-defense.

My little church tries to live by the Way but I look down the road to the places teaching hate and the (so-called) “prosperity gospel” heresy and all the rest and just shake my head.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:46:04pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:46:16pm

re: #170 Great White Snark

“Send $1000 or more now to help our humble TV network, car collection, travel and vacations to assure your blessedness for heaven.”

God may I borrow just one lightning bolt for this one little transmitter cable? Please? Yes the one between the dish and the studio. Thanks, me.

I remember attending the local megachurch and the pastor whining from the pulpit about the hardship he was enduring because he had to sell the church’s jet in order to accommodate their massive operating budget and a sudden shortfall of donations. That was about the point where I told my in-laws I couldn’t attend there anymore.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:46:36pm

re: #169 Jenner7

RE: Trump security punching Latino man, is that the same security man that escorted Jorge out of the press conference?

Looks like the same nose.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:47:36pm

re: #170 Great White Snark

“Send $1000 or more now to help our humble TV network, car collection, travel and vacations to assure your blessedness for heaven.”

God may I borrow just one lightning bolt for this one little transmitter cable? Please? Yes the one between the dish and the studio. Thanks, me.

In the Didache, a first century AD document, Christians are told that if a Prophet shows up and is hardworking to make him welcome. If he asks for money send him on his way and don’t think twice about him because he’s not a true Prophet. We would have done well to remember that lesson.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:48:54pm

re: #173 Kragar

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As in the original “Sword of Shannara”? The first book wasn’t bad (had some cute ways of showing it’s it a far far far post apocalyptic world) but wasn’t that special really.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:50:19pm

re: #177 William Lewis

As in the original “Sword of Shannara”? The first book wasn’t bad (had some cute ways of showing it’s it a far far far post apocalyptic world) but wasn’t that special really.

Looks that way, thought some of it looks like stuff from the second book as well

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:54:54pm

Time to watch a nice Inspector Lewis mystery. Good night, all. Hasta mañana.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:56:02pm

re: #173 Kragar

My oldest son is named for Walker Boah from the second series of books. He was born a year before Walker, Texas Ranger came out, so people always ask if that’s where he got his name.

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Jayleia  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:56:32pm
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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:56:42pm

re: #176 William Lewis

In the Didache, a first century AD document, Christians are told that if a Prophet shows up and is hardworking to make him welcome. If he asks for money send him on his way and don’t think twice about him because he’s not a true Prophet. We would have done well to remember that lesson.

Many do remember. The quiet, the humble the unassuming people of faith. Those least likely to rant on social media, judge others harshly or evangelize like a cheap car sale. That welcome the Rabbi or Imam to break bread with. Maybe too quiet sometimes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:57:21pm

re: #178 Kragar

Looks that way, thought some of it looks like stuff from the second book as well

I had a F/SF fan friend in college who called it “The Sword of Sha-Na-Na,” because she wasn’t all that impressed with it.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:58:11pm

re: #180 Belafon

My oldest son is named for Walker Boah from the second series of books. He was born a year before Walker, Texas Ranger came out, so people always ask if that’s where he got his name.

Garet Jax was one of my all time favorite characters

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Khal Wimpo  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:59:06pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

>>Obama’s a fag … I’ll be proven right…<<

Are you shitting me? Holy christ, the level of childish petulance on display here is beyond toddler.

And and and then I’ll be proven right an’ then all you poopyheads will be sorry and I won’t care and then I’ll laugh and WAHHH WHY AREN’T YOU ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO MEEEEE!!!

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:01:22pm

re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had a F/SF fan friend in college who called it “The Sword of Sha-Na-Na,” because she wasn’t all that impressed with it.

Heh. Had I thought of that, I’d have probably said that one. It’s far better than, say, the Thomas Covenant books, but it’s still a very average fantasy series. I’d be far more interested in Guy Gavriel Kay’s “‎The Fionavar Tapestry” being done instead.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:01:51pm

re: #181 Jayleia

Ah, a fantasy-analogy duelist.

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:04:52pm

I don’t know if anybody picked this up on an earlier thread (damn, with this working full time, I’m missing out on valuable LGF Time).

The Donald totally beclowned himself today when asked about the various leaders in Islamist terrorism. (emphasis mine).

Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt found something Donald Trump doesn’t win at on Thursday — knowing his terrorists.
“I’m looking for the next commander-in-chief, to know who Hassan Nasrallah is, and Zawahiri, and al-Julani, and al-Baghdadi. Do you know the players without a scorecard, yet, Donald Trump?” Hewitt asked the 2016 Republican candidate, referring to the respective leaders of Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State.
“No,” Trump said.
“You know, I’ll tell you honestly, I think by the time we get to office, they’ll all be changed. They’ll be all gone,” he said. “I knew you were going to ask me things like this, and there’s no reason, because, No. 1, I’ll find, I will hopefully find Gen. Douglas MacArthur in the pack.”
Trump said asking him who the key players are was a type of “gotcha question.”
“I will be so good at the military, your head will spin. But obviously, I’m not meeting these people. I’m not seeing these people,” Trump said.
“Now, as far as what you’re talking about now, I will know every detail, and I will have the right plan, not a plan like this where we’re probably going backwards based on everything that I’m hearing, but we’re probably going backwards, zero respect. We have, we are not a respected country, and certainly as it relates to ISIS and what’s going on, and Iran.”

Read more: politico.com

We have a word salad worthy of a Palin on a Sterno bender. And his fanboys just eat this up.

RBS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:08:57pm

re: #186 William Lewis

Heh. Had I thought of that, I’d have probably said that one. It’s far better than, say, the Thomas Covenant books, but it’s still a very average fantasy series. I’d be far more interested in Guy Gavriel Kay’s “‎The Fionavar Tapestry” being done instead.

The first Covenant book was good, if only for the premise used to get TC into the “fantasy world” where he was a hero. It waned after that.

Meanwhile, I’m about halfway through the second Game of Thrones novel, and finding it necessary to skim through the exquisitely detailed descriptions of what people are wearing and what they are eating to get to the interesting stuff, as in, the plot. I have to give Martin credit for his imagination (and consistency) in describing down to the type of fabric and sauce used for the clothing and cuisine of his universe, but wouldn’t all that be better served as a separate dish, as in an appendix or two?

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:10:50pm

re: #188 Reality Based Steve

“I knew you were going to ask me things like this, and there’s no reason, because, No. 1, I’ll find, I will hopefully find Gen. Douglas MacArthur in the pack.”

This is probably the only recent name he could find in his memory under the heading “military leader, U. S.”

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:11:56pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I hit “enough” halfway through the first book. I just wasn’t interested in a fantasy replay of the War of the Roses where Shakespeare’s Richard would have been too nice to survive.

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:13:22pm

GOP didn’t learn from 2008 and now we have Sarah Palin 2. Dumb and Dumber.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:13:25pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Agreed

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:16:02pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

describing down to the type of fabric and sauce used for the clothing and cuisine of his universe

I’ve noticed quite a few fantasy authors padding their work with long, long food descriptions (and songs).

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:16:22pm

Douglas MacArthur. My dad used to refer to him contemptuously as “Dugout Doug.”

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Jayleia  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:17:14pm

re: #194 jaunte

It works for GRRM, from what I’ve heard…haven’t read the books yet, on my list though.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:18:30pm

re: #196 Jayleia

It works for GRRM, from what I’ve heard…haven’t read the books yet, on my list though.

I read three books before saying “Fuck it, I’m done with this.”

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:19:11pm

re: #91 jaunte

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Being fed to the lions by the Romans doesn’t count.

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:19:17pm

Good grief, that sign.

::facepalm::

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:19:18pm

re: #196 Jayleia

He’s a little more subtle with it than S. M. Stirling.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:21:57pm

re: #115 jaunte

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Trump’s Veep.

Nope, Trump is a birther; he thinks Canadian Ted Cruz is ineligible.

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vgranucci  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:22:46pm

re: #191 William Lewis

I got as far as Ned Stark’s execution. At that point I decided I really didn’t like any of the characters and had no interest in finding out what happened to them.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:24:44pm

re: #202 vgranucci

I got as far as Ned Stark’s execution. At that point I decided I really didn’t like any of the characters and had no interest in finding out what happened to them.

I only made it to his son being pushed out of the window.

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:24:49pm

Oh, did you guys see this? Can’t be seen defending Hillary. No sir!

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:15pm

re: #202 vgranucci

I read the whole thing, but GRRM never explained how his society maintained its medieval stasis for thousands of years, or why anyone in that continent of triple-crossers would trust the next person enough to even have a society, or why the white walkers didn’t know how boats worked, etc. etc. etc.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:46pm

re: #194 jaunte

I’ve noticed quite a few fantasy authors padding their work with long, long food descriptions (and songs).

It’s a throwback to the Renaissance. Authors back then would include tangential stories as characters related their backstories to the protagonists, or they’d include entire plays within the narrative, if the protagonists happened to be in the audience. Don Quijote is one example, but there are plenty more. As the novel developed as an art form, authors included less extraneous detail to explore the internal world of the characters, include more dialog, and experiment with POV and language. In other words, the novel was pared down to the essentials: characters, plot, setting. The modern novel requires the reader to imagine all the fiddly little details.

Martin-esque fantasy leaves little to the imagination, in more ways than one.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:28:28pm

re: #200 jaunte

He’s a little more subtle with it than S. M. Stirling.

I can’t think of anyone less subtle than Stirling… well, perhaps John Ringo…

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:29:39pm

Ah, time to go be a clerk again. I’ll check in again later.

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Mattand  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:33:39pm

re: #188 Reality Based Steve

I don’t know if anybody picked this up on an earlier thread (damn, with this working full time, I’m missing out on valuable LGF Time).

The Donald totally beclowned himself today when asked about the various leaders in Islamist terrorism. (emphasis mine).

We have a word salad worthy of a Palin on a Sterno bender. And his fanboys just eat this up.

RBS

“I will be so good at the military, your head will spin.”

This guy talks like a 12 year old, and he stands an actual, legitimate chance of being elected president.

Fucking kill me now.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:34:41pm

re: #205 jaunte

Tolkien fan: “I want to live in Middle Earth!”

Lewis fan: “I want to visit Narnia!”

Rowling fan: “I want to go to Hogwarts!”

GRRM fan: “Nope, I’m good.”

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Jayleia  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:36:15pm

re: #207 William Lewis

There was another mil-sci-fi guy that was less subtle…Kratman, maybe? At least the title of some of his books set off my “Bad Crazy” alarm, and didn’t read further…

And on the subject of John Ringo: HOLY CRAP THIS BOOK IS INSANE

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:36:51pm

re: #210 Lidane

Tolkien fan: “I want to live in Middle Earth!”

Lewis fan: “I want to visit Narnia!”

Rowling fan: “I want to go to Hogwarts!”

GRRM fan: “Nope, I’m good.”

I’m stealing that. :)

RBS

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:31pm

re: #212 Reality Based Steve

I’m stealing that. :)

RBS

Feel free. I stole it from Twitter. Haha.

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Chan Kobun  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:52pm

re: #211 Jayleia

OH JOHN RINGO NO

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:39:47pm

re: #209 Mattand

This guy talks like a 12 year old, and he stands an actual, legitimate chance of being elected president.

Fucking kill me now.

No, no he doesn’t. He has a legitimate shot at the GOP nomination, but there’s no way in hell he will be elected President.

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Mattand  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:43:11pm

re: #215 aagcobb

No, no he doesn’t. He has a legitimate shot at the GOP nomination, but there’s no way in hell he will be elected President.

LOL, I don’t have the same faith in the American electorate that you do.

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Chan Kobun  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:43:35pm

This sonofabitch literally headshotted me out of the air as I dropped onto the cap from outside. That’s impossible for any human to do.

We called him on being an aimbotter and he pissed off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:43:43pm

re: #91 jaunte

“Today for the first time in History a Christian woman was put in jail for standing up for her beliefs,” says Cruz.

On behalf of my sister-in-law, who has been arrested at least once standing up for her beliefs as part of Christian Peacekeepers, I say, “FUCK YOU, TED CRUZ!!!”

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:46:13pm

Because someone else is breaking the law doesn’t get you out of a speeding ticket, nor will it get you out of this:

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:47:13pm

re: #216 Mattand

LOL, I don’t have the same faith in the American electorate that you do.

I refuse to believe America has sunk so low that we would actually elect Donald Trump President. I will not believe that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:48:50pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

On behalf of my sister-in-law, who has been arrested at least once standing up for her beliefs as part of Christian Peacekeepers, I say, “FUCK YOU, TED CRUZ!!!”

Cruz and his fellow Religious Rightists conveniently ignore all the conscientious objectors and protesters who went to jail willingly to witness to the world the injustices they were fighting against. They did not ask for personal exemptions to civil law, or expect they keep their cushy jobs while refusing to perform their duties. They broke laws knowing there would be consequences, and they accepted those consequences willingly.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:06:41pm

re: #215 aagcobb

No, no he doesn’t. He has a legitimate shot at the GOP nomination, but there’s no way in hell he will be elected President.

I said something just like that when George W. Bush announced his candidacy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:10:31pm

re: #222 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I said something just like that when George W. Bush announced his candidacy.

“George Bush and Dan Quayle? Well, there’s a losing ticket if I ever saw one!”

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:40:00pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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One question—what’s a “desk bureau?”

Hmmm-the “summer of justice” is drawing to a close and yet, there are still journalists employed and not on food stamps; traditional media still thrives; and upchuck is still banned from Twitter and about to lose his ass to Gawker.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Sep 4, 2015 • 7:22:00am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Ed Lee is the mayor of SF. Is he thinking it’s still Gavin Newsome?

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Saint Stephen  Sep 6, 2015 • 2:09:33pm

It’s quite simple, really. Republicans do not believe in the rule of law if said rule happens to be something they disagree with.


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