In Long Unhinged Screed, Glenn Beck Apologizes for Calling Sarah Palin a “Clown”

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Yes, folks, he’s walking back his “clown” remarks, but he’s still very unhappy with the weirdo from Wasilla. The super-long post is at his Facebook page, but Right Wing Watch has most of it here: A Contrite Glenn Beck Apologizes for Calling Sarah Palin a ‘Clown’.

We all have bad days and bad moments.

Today was one of mine.

I stand by all of my comments on Sarah Palin EXCEPT when I called her a clown. It was unkind, childish and wrong of me to name call.

What I should have said is this:

I don’t know what she really believes. I don’t think she is who I thought she was and haven’t for sometime.

When I saw her interview Donald Trump on her tv show I was stunned. Not that she interviewed him, but that she agreed with him and backs him.

I have seen her speak many times about many topics and I just don’t understand her. But I am sure she doesn’t agree or understand me often as well.

I haven’t had a relationship with Sarah since about the time of the shooting of Gabby Giffords. Nothing to do with that at all, but it was around that time that she withdrew from me and my team and it was because, as Todd told me on the phone, “we have been told who our real friends are.” I was stunned. I had backed her hard in every way I knew how. At that time I really believed in her and in fact I really believed she had the ability to change the world for the better.

While I have reached out since we have not spoken in an any meaningful way since.

I don’t know what they were told or by whom, but I can guess as it most likely was the same person that tried to drive a stake through my relationship with mark Levin and Sean Hannity and did for several years.

Thank God, I finally reached out to them, because I had been “told” things about them and they were the same lies that they were told about me.

Celebrity, fame and TV/radio are poison to humans I believe. At least it has been to me. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

That’s just the very beginning. He goes on in this vein for a long time.

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218 comments
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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:25:51pm

Maybe his little tiff being described as a “clown-fight” got to him.

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:27:45pm

I’d apologize too if I thought that that crazy ass, meth’ed up clan had me in their sights

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:28:10pm

So I guess the accountant finally created a sufficiently simple visual representation of income drop-off because of intersection between fanbases.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:28:36pm

So much for Glenn having a stopped clock moment not like I was actually hopeful. This reminds me of the Congressman who not long after Obama was elected actually had the balls to criticize Limbaugh for bitching at Republicans who weren’t being total jerks to then President-elect Obama but Rush trashed him and he (Phil Gingrey of Georgia) apologized profusely to Rush for “misspeaking.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:30:50pm

I see that Glenn got out the Vicks VapoRub for the fake tears in that pic.

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mr.fusion  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:31:22pm
Celebrity, fame and TV/radio are poison to humans I believe. At least it has been to me. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

Don’t worry Glenn, we’re in complete agreement here….your celebrity, fame and TV/Radio career have poison to us as well

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:33:50pm

re: #6 mr.fusion

Don’t worry Glenn, we’re in complete agreement here….your celebrity, fame and TV/Radio career have poison to us as well

If it bothers him that much, I am sure he’ll give back all the money he’s earned from doing it. He’s so full of shit. He loves every minute of being a talking head. It allows a former drugged out drunk like him to have credibility whereas if he didn’t have the platform he has, he’d just be crazy Uncle Glenn who ruins the annual Beck family Thanksgiving Dinner by rambling about Hitler.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:34:03pm

Much like Milo Y. on Brietbart, this would be a moment to enjoy RWNJs going after each other. Although this case is more like the idiot Glenn Beck apologizing for having a stopped clock moment by correctly naming Sarah Palin as a clown.

I’ve noticed that RWNJs apologize for such inadvertent truth telling much more often than they apologize for being grossly offensive.

Can’t imagine why.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:37:44pm

So. Who phoned him?

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:39:05pm

re: #9 nines09

So. Who phoned him?

Probably Rush Limbaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:40:05pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Probably Rush Limbaugh.

I think Limbaugh and Beck have no love for each other I have read. Same reason why two reality show stars who are equally repulsive probably do.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:40:06pm

Long Unhinged Screed

this phrase is redundant when discussing glen beck

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:40:57pm

re: #12 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Long Unhinged Screed

this phrase is redundant when discussing glen beck

Seriously. It would be news if Beck ever came across as remotely sane.

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allegro  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:41:01pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Probably Rush Limbaugh.

More likely the company that sells his advertising time. You know there are $ involved.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:41:46pm

Dare I ask who the conflict-causing “they” are?

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:41:46pm

Glad they settled that, wingnut grifters have to stick together.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:42:43pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Probably Rush Limbaugh.

I know it wasn’t his conscience. And that is one long babble. I await the day he has the self realization that his entire life was a joke and all the money in the world won’t make the hurt go away.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:43:27pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I think Limbaugh and Beck have no love for each other I have read. Same reason why two reality show stars who are equally repulsive probably do.

They fish the same waters.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:43:38pm

I remember the first time I heard Beck. It was the late Bush years. It was the year Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize. Glenn pushed for a Polish woman who had saved thousands of Jewish children in the Holocaust to be the winner and I really had no fault with that though I did take issue with him shitting on climate change activism. I mean Irena Sendler was an admirable woman to be sure but I just hated the way he used her to get in cheap attacks on Gore. Now granted I didn’t know at the time he was a Nazi obsessed wackjob who bursts into tears.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:43:40pm

re: #17 nines09

I know it wasn’t his conscience. And that is one long babble. I await the day he has the self realization that his entire life was a joke and all the money in the world won’t make the hurt go away.

That will never happen, at least consciously.

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Kragar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:43:54pm

Shorter Beck: “My lunatic fans howled, so I caved.”

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:44:05pm

re: #17 nines09

I know it wasn’t his conscience. And that is one long babble. I await the day he has the self realization that his entire life was a joke and all the money in the world won’t make the hurt go away.

That would require some drug that causes self-awareness. His ego will prevent him from ever realizing what he is on his own.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:44:10pm

re: #18 nines09

They fish the same waters.

Precisely. Of the two though, I have to say, I find Limbaugh the more disgusting.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:44:17pm

re: #17 nines09

I know it wasn’t his conscience. And that is one long babble. I await the day he has the self realization that his entire life was a joke and all the money in the world won’t make the hurt go away.

I worry about the day when it will dawn for a significant number of wingnuts that they’ve been scammed, and that the results of the scam is much more than they can ever hope to make up for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:44:50pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:44:58pm

re: #21 Kragar

Shorter Beck: “My lunatic fans howled, so I caved.”

Well, his fans do obviously admire clowns who pretend to be serious people. There has to be a lot of overlap in their fan bases.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:45:34pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I should have thought of that whenever I had problems in a class.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:46:37pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just always answer 42 and claim the Guide as your holy book.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:47:41pm
I stand by all of my comments on Sarah Palin EXCEPT when I called her a clown. It was unkind, childish and wrong of me to name call.

Accurately calling Palin a clown is “childish”? What about this….

“I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it.”
~The Glenn Beck Program, May 17, 2005

“When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh shut up’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining.”
~The Glenn Beck Program, Sept. 9, 2005

“The only [Katrina victims] we’re seeing on television are the scumbags.”
~September 9 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:47:55pm

re: #24 Teukka

I worry about the day when it will dawn for a significant number of wingnuts that they’ve been scammed, and that the results of the scam is much more than they can ever hope to make up for.

One could regard the intra-party conflict in the GOP as something along these lines, where the GOP base is realizing they’ve been scammed for decades by the establishment.

However, what the GOP base wants is even worse than what the GOP establishment wants, so this is only progress if it ends up wrecking the party.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:48:23pm

Can I just say I am glad that political talk radio never really took off on the left? It’s not just a political thing but I can’t stand most talk radio show hosts. So egotistical and so many are such assholes and so unbelievably smug. That’s the worst thing the Limbaugh phenomenon caused. A bunch of obnoxious assholes who think their opinion is God’s word- I believe Rush in his infinite humility has given said that about himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:48:43pm

re: #28 Nyet

Just always answer 42 and claim the Guide as your holy book.

And make sure I have my towel…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:49:30pm

re: #29 Dr. Matt

Accurately calling Palin a clown childish? What about this….

Such compassion for the families who lost someone on 9/11. But yeah he cries about other nutcases like Alex Jones but the truth is Glenn is and has been part o the same lunatic fringe.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:49:31pm

1. WTF is this??? —> littlegreenfootballs.com
2. LOL

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:50:13pm

re: #29 Dr. Matt

Hang on, let me just tell you what I’m thinking. I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out — is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I’ve lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, “Yeah, I’d kill Michael Moore,” and then I’d see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I’d realize, “Oh, you wouldn’t kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn’t choke him to death.” And you know, well, I’m not sure.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:50:30pm

re: #30 EPR-radar

One could regard the intra-party conflict in the GOP as something along these lines, where the GOP base is realizing they’ve been scammed for decades by the establishment.

However, what the GOP base wants is even worse than what the GOP establishment wants, so this is only progress if it ends up wrecking the party.

For you Metal Gear Solid fans, I think the best analogy here is the base are Solidus and his faction in MGS2 while the establishment is the Patriots. // Nerd mode off. I know we have other MGS fans here.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:50:35pm

re: #29 Dr. Matt

Accurately calling Palin a clown childish? What about this….

He’s talking about professional courtesy towards Palin in the whirling swirling World Of Grifting. Beck is a bag of snot.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:50:54pm

so beck has declared himself in the anti trump camp. all ‘conservatives’ right now are required to declare whether they are pro trump or anti trump

currently, we have the nucleus of the trump party: trump, palin, and cruz. limbaugh has signed on as pro trump

as far as i can make out, all other republican public figures are anti trump

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:51:23pm

re: #35 Nyet

I’ve come to think Moore obnoxious but kill him? Hell I don’t even want Beck so much as imprisoned or shut up. I just want him to know that he has no idea what he’s talking about when he compares Obama’s presidency to the horrors of Nazi Germany.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:51:38pm

re: #37 nines09

He’s talking about professional courtesy towards Palin in the whirling swirling World Of Grifting. Beck is a bag of snot.

You’re being childish!!!

//

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:51:40pm

re: #34 Dr. Matt

A nervous breakdown after being criticized for posting violent stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:51:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:52:12pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t get the joke.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:52:21pm

re: #34 Dr. Matt

1. WTF is this??? —> littlegreenfootballs.com
2. LOL

what was deleted was much loonier

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:52:52pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

I don’t like Moore while also acknowledging that his heart is in the right place.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:53:10pm

re: #44 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what was deleted was much loonier

He went all the way off the deep end, seeming to think he’s in charge of LGF.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:53:39pm

re: #44 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

There is a screenshot by teleskiguy down below for those interested.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:53:41pm

re: #45 Nyet

I don’t like Moore while also acknowledging that his heart is in the right place.

I liked him back in the TV Nation days, but he got to be a bit too much.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:54:04pm

re: #45 Nyet

I don’t like Moore while also acknowledging that his heart is in the right place.

Oh no doubt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:54:38pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the joke.

It’s Ben Carson and wingnut humor.
Their jokes never make sense.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:54:44pm

In other news…Rod Dreher at The American Conservative is having another screaming meltdown that transgendered people are violating his notions of nominalist order and therefore destroying the Western metaphysical teleology handed down from on high to Greek philosophers back in the fucking Bronze Age.

You can’t make this shit up. Dreher needs competent counseling.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:55:20pm

re: #51 Aunty Entity Dragon

In other news…Rod Dreher at The American Conservative is having another screaming meltdown that transgendered people are violating his notions of nominalist order and therefore destroying the Western metaphysical teleology handed down from on high to Greek philosophers back in the fucking Bronze Age.

You can’t make this shit up. Dreher needs competent counseling.

Not Thorazine? *ducks*

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:55:42pm

re: #48 No Country For Old Haters

I think he is not honest enough, prone to associating with nuts like Sheehan and even said something that showed affinity to trutherism once.

He’s still better than any given wingnut though.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:56:08pm

something weird…I can’t post my twitter remarks

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:56:32pm

re: #48 No Country For Old Haters

I liked him back in the TV Nation days, but he got to be a bit too much.

I enjoyed Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 but he confused the hell out of me when he had declared in Bowling for Columbine that the Kosovo bombing campaign was Clinton waging the dog but ended up supporting Wes Clark for President in 2004. And then he bitches at Obama who has more progressive bonafides than Clark ever will when Obama inevitably moves to the center on issues. I don’t hate the guy or wish bad things on him but he has a lot of moments where I go WTF. I also find him and Bill Maher a little too smug at times too.

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Jenner7  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:56:34pm

Re-posted from downstairs:

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:56:51pm

re: #47 Nyet

There is a screenshot by teleskiguy down below for those interested.

Among other things, that kind of eliminationist rhetoric vs. RWNJs simply isn’t helpful in terms of reducing RWNJ power in the US.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:57:02pm

re: #53 Nyet

I think he is not honest enough, prone to associating with nuts like Sheehan and even said something that showed affinity to trutherism once.

He’s still better than any given wingnut though.

Sheehan is when I started moving from the lefty left to the center left.

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:57:03pm

In regard to last night’s meltdown: does the internet just naturally attract people with violent fantasies? Or does the internet somehow drive troubled people to have such thoughts?

The problem is, unfortunately, there are a few cases where such people have become violent for real.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:57:31pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I enjoyed Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 but he confused the hell out of me when he had declared in Bowling for Columbine that the Kosovo bombing campaign was Clinton waging the dog but ended up supporting Wes Clark for President in 2004. And then he bitches at Obama who has more progressive bonafides than Clark ever will when Obama inevitably moves to the center on issues. I don’t hate the guy or wish bad things on him but he has a lot of moments where I go WTF. I also find him and Bill Maher a little too smug at times too.

I’d say Maher outsmugs him by far. He smirks more and more as the years go by and he gets more sure of himself.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:58:11pm

re: #59 bratwurst

In regard to last night’s meltdown: does the internet just naturally attract people with violent fantasies? Or does the internet somehow drive troubled people to have such thoughts?

The problem is, unfortunately, there are a few cases where such people have become violent for real.

*cough*Todd Kincannon*cough*

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:59:05pm

re: #60 No Country For Old Haters

I’d say Maher outsmugs him by far. He smirks more and more as the years go by and he gets more sure of himself.

I definitely would agree with that. Maher suffers from smartest guy in the room syndrome. He thinks he’s the smartest person in the room and lets you know. I also being on the autistic spectrum have no respect for his anti-vax bs. Plus his “civil libertarian” defenses of Coulter make me ill. Yes, Bill, she’s free to say whatever the hell she wants to but I am free to call her a racist asshole when she calls Latinos rapists and murderers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:59:33pm

re: #61 No Country For Old Haters

*cough*Todd Kincannon*cough*

How that guy became chair of anything other than a room full of Republican stuffed animals astounds me.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 1:59:45pm

Nope, my tweets are not translating to here.

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:00:20pm

re: #61 No Country For Old Haters

*cough*Todd Kincannon*cough*

Exactly! Not that these things happen OFTEN, but often enough to be greatly concerned when people begin to talk about acting out violently.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:00:34pm

re: #54 Aunty Entity Dragon

…

re: #64 Aunty Entity Dragon

…

???

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:01:07pm

Wait what happened last night? Sorry was watching the game all of last night.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:01:47pm

re: #66 Teukka

???

I keep trying to post tweets and it isn’t working.

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CBGB  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:02:18pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I’m actually still trying to figure out the plot of MGS2…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:03:26pm

re: #69 CBGB

I’m actually still trying to figure out the plot of MGS2…

Heh me too but I think I understand about Solidus wanting to be rid of the Patriots control over society and the Patriots wanting to maintain the status quo to prevent chaos. I am finally playing Peace Walker by the way. Man it’s tough but fun.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:03:27pm

re: #68 Aunty Entity Dragon

I keep trying to post tweets and it isn’t working.

If the tweeter has their account locked or has deleted a tweet, it won’t post.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:03:51pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Wait what happened last night? Sorry was watching the game all of last night.

A nervous breakdown followed by a flounce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:04:20pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Sheehan is when I started moving from the lefty left to the center left.

She’s one of those who demonstrate why one should be committed to the goals of liberalism, rather than to particular people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:04:32pm

re: #72 Nyet

A nervous breakdown followed by a flounce.

Shit, a regular, hatching, or someone who hardly posts?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:04:38pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

If the tweeter has their account locked or has deleted a tweet, it won’t post.

I figured it was something like that. Rod tolerates people who think that only Catholic marriages are real and everybody else is living in sin and going to hell, the usual fundies and even a token neo-Nazi who blogs as Deep South Populist…but he bans glbt critics fairly quickly.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:05:00pm

re: #72 Nyet

A nervous breakdown followed by a flounce.

I’ve seen much worse nervous breakdowns, but he definitely lost touch with reality, and his position as an ordinary poster here like the rest of us.

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CBGB  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:06:14pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Peacewalker is fantastic…and MGSV is Peacewalker on steroids. Get on that ASAP…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:06:18pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

She’s one of those who demonstrate why one should be committed to the goals of liberalism, rather than to particular people.

I mean I felt bad for the lady since she lost her son but she did get to meet with the President when a lot of parents of soldiers who died in combat never got that. And as much as I felt the Iraq war was wrong, her son had chosen to enlist. He did know the risks of possibly being sent to a combat zone. I mean I felt bad because she as I said lost her son but that was a cause I am glad I never stepped on board with especially knowing what it became and how she spews some pretty messed up crap at Obama now too.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:06:38pm

The full content of today’s paper by Winkelmann and Caldeira et. al. is open to all:

Combustion of available fossil fuel resources sufficient to eliminate the Antarctic Ice Sheet

Not that “No evidence” Ben Carson and friends really care.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:07:08pm

re: #77 CBGB

Peacewalker is fantastic…and MGSV is Peacewalker on steroids. Get on that ASAP…

I am on it. I finally got a PS4. Just stinks heh since I have less time although more money since I am back to working again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:07:41pm

If you guys don’t mind me asking. Who was it?

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:07:46pm

re: #79 freetoken

The full content of today’s paper by Winkelmann and Caldeira et. al. is open to all:

Combustion of available fossil fuel resources sufficient to eliminate the Antarctic Ice Sheet

Not that “No evidence” Ben Carson and friends really care.

I paged Motherboard’s article on this today.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:08:58pm

The liberal cure for this endless malaise is a very large authoritarian government that regulates and manages society through a cradle to grave agenda of redistributive caretaking. It is a government everywhere doing everything for everyone. The liberal motto is “In Government We Trust.” To rescue the people from their troubled lives, the agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. With liberal intellectuals sharing the glory, the liberal politician is the hero in this melodrama. He takes credit for providing his constituents with whatever they want or need even though he has not produced by his own effort any of the goods, services or status transferred to them but has instead taken them from others by force.”

oh, do i believe that?

news to me…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:09:11pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

If you guys don’t mind me asking. Who was it?

Guessing it was Steve.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:10:00pm

It was 32,000 acres this morning.

My sister can see the glow from it. Fingers crossed they can get it under control soon, but …not looking good.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:10:21pm

re: #84 Aunty Entity Dragon

Guessing it was Steve.

Nope. Chan Kobun.

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CBGB  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:10:44pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I’ve got it on PS3 and it still runs smooth as silk, looks great. Very happy with the work they did getting it running well on all platforms.

And there is no work. There is no family. There is only MGSV.

/nerdmode off

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:11:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:11:15pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nope. Chan Kobun.

Ah don’t think I knew them that well. I did see that post though in the discussion about the OKs. I knew it wasn’t Steve since he was here this morning talking about his memory of 9/11.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:11:35pm

Attempting to post another tweet I know is not blocked…

Nope. Something else is going on.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:11:48pm

I love the pre-show videos where Beck rambles on and on and on while his staffers try their darndest to look totally enthralled while surely hoping Roger Ailes or CNN or even MSNBC have read their resumes (or better yet, Pat Robertson’s CBN). I’ve actually only seen one such video, posted here about a year ago, but I imagine all his staff meetings are like that.

“You’re totally right, Glenn, Michele Obama is a self-hating lesbian! (Why doesn’t Nick at Nite return my calls?)”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:11:52pm

re: #87 CBGB

I’ve got it on PS3 and it still runs smooth as silk, looks great. Very happy with the work they did getting it running well on all platforms.

And there is no work. There is no family. There is only MGSV.

/nerdmode off

That’s good to know. I needed to get a PS4 anyhow though.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:12:14pm

Following teh twitter drama over Sarah Nyberg.
Basically, she was exposed as a self-admitted pedophile back in January, now Milo Y. has published an expose at Breitbart (using mostly previously known sources) and all the prominent twitter “social justice activists” seem to be circling the wagons around Nyberg just because it’s gamergate and blah-blah-blah. Basically it’s horrible people v. horrible people, batrachomyomachy.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:13:39pm

Any ideas on how to deal with twitter non posting? I can’t seem to copy and paste the tweet address any longer.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:14:26pm

pic.twitter.com

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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:14:36pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Ah don’t think I knew them that well. I did see that post though in the discussion about the OKs. I knew it wasn’t Steve since he was here this morning talking about his memory of 9/11.

Steve is also self aware enough to comment “Hey, I though I was the ass around here” (or something like that). Got him some slack back with me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:14:39pm

re: #93 Nyet

I watch a lot of stuff on Twitter and the main takeaway that I have from it is some people absolutely LOVE to marinate themselves in drama and outrage.

It just seems terribly unhealthy, and people end up with very warped reality views as a result.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:14:55pm

re: #94 Aunty Entity Dragon

Test tweet

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:15:37pm

re: #96 William Lewis

Steve is also self aware enough to comment “Hey, I though I was the ass around here” (or something like that). Got him some slack back with me.

Yeah I don’t have anything against him. Just knew he didn’t flounce. He’s good even if we don’t always see eye to eye.

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Jenner7  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:15:38pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:16:06pm

re: #94 Aunty Entity Dragon

Any ideas on how to deal with twitter non posting? I can’t seem to copy and paste the tweet address any longer.

Are you on mobile? I had trouble with a mobile twitter address at one point.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:16:38pm

re: #100 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

A very good man unless you were on death row for a crime you did not commit. Who does Ricky endorse if anyone at all? Certainly not Trump.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:16:56pm

re: #100 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:16:58pm

re: #100 Jenner7

Ah, the GOP Thunderdome claims its first victim, I see?

Or better to say the GOP Clown Trump Bus ran his ass over?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:17:05pm

I am breaking it up here to let anybody else see what is going on.

https: //twitter.com /crannibal/status/ 642438230143565828? lang=en

All of my tweet address grabs look like this, and I think something is missing.

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:17:11pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

A very good man unless you were on death row for a crime you did not commit. Who does Ricky endorse if anyone at all? Certainly not Trump.

Rick has been sniffing around on Carly

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:17:46pm

Reuters WTF

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:17:58pm

Who does Rick’s voter go to now?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:18pm

re: #106 b.d.

Rick has been sniffing around on Carly

Not going to return Bobby’s favor for the support last time huh. Surprised that a professional politician like Perry will be going to someone who hasn’t served a day in office in her life.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:35pm

re: #105 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am breaking it up here to let anybody else see what is going on.

https: //twitter.com /crannibal/status/ 642438230143565828? lang=en

Lose the ?lang-en

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:40pm

re: #101 No Country For Old Haters

Are you on mobile? I had trouble with a mobile twitter address at one point.

Nope. Laptop.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:47pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

A very good man unless you were on death row for a crime you did not commit. Who does Ricky endorse if anyone at all? Certainly not Trump.

Of course it is categorically impossible for any GOP contender for the nomination to be a very good person. The available categories seem to be: 1) awful, 2) more awful and 3) most awful.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:49pm

re: #108 b.d.

Who does Rick’s voter go to now?

Tough to say. I don’t know what his base was like.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:53pm

re: #105 Aunty Entity Dragon

Next time you can delete https+slashes and put a space before com, that works for posting inactive links.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:18:56pm

re: #110 No Country For Old Haters

Lose the ?lang-en

Okay…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:19:22pm

re: #112 EPR-radar

Of course it is categorically impossible for any GOP contender for the nomination to be a very good person. The available categories seem to be: 1) awful, 2) more awful and 3) most awful.

I think Perry is number 3 for executing that man knowing he was innocent.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:19:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:19:25pm

re: #79 freetoken

The full content of today’s paper by Winkelmann and Caldeira et. al. is open to all:

Combustion of available fossil fuel resources sufficient to eliminate the Antarctic Ice Sheet

Not that “No evidence” Ben Carson and friends really care.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:20:04pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

Reuters WTF

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:20:26pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I think Perry is number 3 for executing that man knowing he was innocent.

Was it a guy convicted of arson? Didn’t he fire the fire investigators too in that case?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:20:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:21:22pm

re: #120 Teukka

Was it a guy convicted of arson? Didn’t he fire the fire investigators too in that case?

Not too familiar with the exact details but it was the father who yeah was accused of burning his house with his kids. I’d look up more but I gotta skiddle from work in about 10 minutes.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:21:32pm

test

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:22:46pm

re: #120 Teukka

Was it a guy convicted of arson? Didn’t he fire the fire investigators too in that case?

A state commission had been formed to look into that case, and Perry disbanded the commission shortly before his reelection campaign to prevent its embarrassing report from coming out before the election.

He truly is the scum of the earth (i.e., a standard-issue GOP elected official).

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:23:23pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

Reuters WTF

Why hasn’t Reuters hired the world’s greatest award-winning journalist to doxx this bad dad lad???

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:23:54pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Not too familiar with the exact details but it was the father who yeah was accused of burning his house with his kids. I’d look up more but I gotta skiddle from work in about 10 minutes.

Yeah, talking about the same case. When the fire investigators came to a conclusion which undermined the guilty verdict, Perry simply fired them.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:24:10pm

re: #120 Teukka

Was it a guy convicted of arson? Didn’t he fire the fire investigators too in that case?

Willingham was convicted of arson and executed. The evidence was pretty conclusively shown to be myth and folklore (those words were actually used by real fire experts). The fire investigators in Texas at the time had no professional training or education on fire science. When a state panel convened to reopen the case in 2012and hear testimony from leading national fire science experts, Perry fired the panel chair and put one of his buddies in who shut it all down.

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:24:25pm

Obviously there are some horrible things to remember about this date. Way WAY down the list is Ted Cruz forsaking classic rock.

“On 9/11, I didn’t like how rock music responded. And country music, collectively, the way they responded, it resonated with me.”

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:24:43pm

re: #82 No Country For Old Haters

Not dismissing sea level rise, but in the past year or so it seems that sea level rise has become the only thing that people use when discussing the impacts of climate change. Sea level rise has become a fixation of media stories on climate change.

Sea level will rise because of expansion of the current water column as well as the runoff from melting ice. But today’s paper and others show that sea level rise is relatively constant over a very long period. Yes, a meter of rise per year will screw Vanuatu during this century but most people in the developed world (who are the ones mostly emitting the carbon) are not going to be so bothered by that. All those folk down in Florida - they will die of old age before sea level gets them, to put it bluntly.

Yet the scenario used in today’s paper - burning all fossil fuels eventually, that is, if it can burn it we will burn it - has far greater impacts than one or two meters of sea level rise per century.

Unabated carbon emissions will restructure our society because agriculture will have to adapt to entire new product mixes. What land which today may be able to sustain a large population may not do so in 200 years when CO2 levels are dramatically higher than today.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:25:12pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

A state commission had been formed to look into that case, and Perry disbanded the commission shortly before his reelection campaign to prevent its embarrassing report from coming out before the election.

He truly is the scum of the earth (i.e., a standard-issue GOP elected official).

If there is a hell, Perry belongs in it for what he did there. There aren’t many people I would say that of, but what he did was utterly evil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:25:55pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

Reuters WTF

[Embedded content]

Louise is on it:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:26:01pm

re: #128 bratwurst

Obviously there are some horrible things to remember about this date. Way WAY down the list is Ted Cruz forsaking classic rock.

Yeah I remember seeing him say that and just laughing at how obvious he was pandering. The only thing worse than that was his lame attempt to be hip by doing Simpsons voices which normally I would tell him not to quit his day job but he should quit that too. Not that I am anywhere near Mel Blanc or any voice actor but his voices sucked.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:26:18pm

re: #121 Aunty Entity Dragon

Methinks Rod Dreher has never gotten over the terrible shame of wearing hand-me-down shoes at his confirmation.

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Lidane  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:26:24pm

re: #100 Jenner7

One down, 15 more to go.

Honestly, that’s the first smart thing Perry’s done in ages. At this point everyone in the kid’s debate next week should pack it in. No one cares that they’re in the race.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:26:47pm

re: #126 Teukka

Yeah, talking about the same case. When the fire investigators came to a conclusion which undermined the guilty verdict, Perry simply fired them.

Yeah thought so. Perry’s a crook. Hard to believe though that his successor is even worse than he is though. I am sure the Texans can tell you more about Abbott though than I can.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:27:31pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:27:34pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Yeah I remember seeing him say that and just laughing at how obvious he was pandering. The only thing worse than that was his lame attempt to be hip by doing Simpsons voices which normally I would tell him not to quit his day job but he should quit that too. Not that I am anywhere near Mel Blanc or any voice actor but his voices sucked.

It’s probably very hard to self-assess when surrounded by yes-men who act like you’re the greatest.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:27:45pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Yeah thought so. Perry’s a crook. Hard to believe though that his successor is even worse than he is though. I am sure the Texans can tell you more about Abbott though than I can.

There’s no limit to this kind of thing. Apparently the Lt. Gov in Texas is an even worse pin-head than Abbott.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:28:22pm

re: #137 No Country For Old Haters

It’s probably very hard to self-assess when surrounded by yes-men who act like you’re the greatest.

His own dad tells him he’s a savior.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:28:48pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

There’s no limit to this kind of thing. Apparently the Lt. Gov in Texas is an even worse pin-head than Abbott.

Dan “Not on ESPN” Patrick, yes. I have heard that too from our Texas lizards.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:28:53pm

A Look At The Authoritarian Personality

How much do you agree with the following statements?
- People can be divided into two distinct classes - the weak and the strong.
…
- Most of our social problems would be solved if we could somehow get rid of the immoral, crooked and feeble-minded people.

The statements you just read are a part of one of the most infamous psychological scales of the 20th century - Theodor Adorno’s F-scale. The F stood for Fascist - and the test was meant to help identify how racism develops in people.

who does this remind you of??:

To measure these things in subjects, Adorno devised a test that asked them to state how much they agreed with particular statements. Each statement was correlated to one of the above elements. For example:

Q. The businessman and the manufacturer are more important to our country than artists and writers. (Distrust of artists and writers)
…
Q. An insult to our honor should always be punished. (aggression toward those who harbor unconventional thinking)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:30:15pm

Alright Friday! Later people.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:30:25pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

His own dad tells him he’s a savior.

He has a hell of a fall ahead of him.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:31:50pm

re: #133 De Kolta Chair

Methinks Rod Dreher has never gotten the shame of wearing hand-me-down shoes to his confirmation.

The dude has some serious family issues, that is for sure. It seems his sister and dad never really forgave him for leaving their nowhere Louisiana town to be a big city slicker in New York and so he had to write a book about his (now deceased) sister and their family fights. He then spent a year after her death pimping his book about her and how she was right about small town living and staying away from the sinful culture out there. Oh…and Benedict Option.

Ugh.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:32:52pm

re: #129 freetoken

Not dismissing sea level rise, but in the past year or so it seems that sea level rise has become the only thing that people use when discussing the impacts of climate change. Sea level rise has become a fixation of media stories on climate change.

Sea level will rise because of expansion of the current water column as well as the runoff from melting ice. But today’s paper and others show that sea level rise is relatively constant over a very long period. Yes, a meter of rise per year will screw Vanuatu during this century but most people in the developed world (who are the ones mostly emitting the carbon) are not going to be so bothered by that. All those folk down in Florida - they will die of old age before sea level gets them, to put it bluntly.

Yet the scenario used in today’s paper - burning all fossil fuels eventually, that is, if it can burn it we will burn it - has far greater impacts than one or two meters of sea level rise per century.

Unabated carbon emissions will restructure our society because agriculture will have to adapt to entire new product mixes. What land which today may be able to sustain a large population may not do so in 200 years when CO2 levels are dramatically higher than today.

What worries my climatologist friends is the possibility that the thermohaline conveyor goes pear-shaped. The good news is that there won’t be global warming in the northern hemisphere. But that is the only good news. It would cause a refugee crisis which would make the current crisis in Europe look like the line to an icecream truck.
And that’s just the migratory aspect of that unholy fucking disaster. The others are as bad as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:34:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:34:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:34:51pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:35:28pm

re: #145 Teukka

What worries my climatologist friends is the possibility that the thermohaline conveyor goes pear-shaped. The good news is that there won’t be global warming in the northern hemisphere. But that is the only good news. It would cause a refugee crisis which would make the current crisis in Europe look like the line to an icecream truck.
And that’s just the migratory aspect of that unholy fucking disaster. The others are as bad as well.

Yep. All the Central American rainforest goes bye bye and becomes savannah. The Sahel region in Africa? Hello Sahara Desert! Europe drops 10 degrees or more as does a lot of North America with the Gulf Stream gone. Shit gets real, real weird, and we dump a lot of human population over clean water and arable land and a lot of war.

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WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:35:55pm

re: #105 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am breaking it up here to let anybody else see what is going on.

https: //twitter.com /crannibal/status/ 642438230143565828? lang=en

All of my tweet address grabs look like this, and I think something is missing.

This isn’t needed…only through the 8:

? lang=en

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:04pm

re: #150 WhatEVs

This isn’t needed…only through the 8:

? lang=en

Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:06pm

re: #105 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am breaking it up here to let anybody else see what is going on.

https: //twitter.com /crannibal/status/ 642438230143565828? lang=en

I posted the same tweet at #25 with no probs

153
Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:11pm

OK, tweets that have query strings (the “?lang=en” part) will now work as well.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:18pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:21pm

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Liam Dutton nails pronouncing Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

And then in Ukraine:

“Свідок” Катерина Булатова

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:37:43pm

re: #149 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yep. All the Central American rainforest goes bye bye and becomes savannah. The Sahel region in Africa? Hello Sahara Desert! Europe drops 10 degrees or more as does a lot of North America with the Gulf Stream gone. Shit gets real, real weird, and we dump a lot of human population over clean water and arable land and a lot of war.

And that’s if we’re lucky, if someone doesn’t decide to lob nukes. In that case…
*does chop-chop sign*

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:38:47pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:41:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:41:43pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:42:12pm

re: #155 Nyet

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

[Embedded content]

Video

i was on a train in wales and we hit that station

‘Ll-’ not pronounced correctly in welsh unless you say “KHL” like you are pulling a haddock out of the back of your throat

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WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:42:17pm

re: #151 Aunty Entity Dragon

Thanks.

Saw I was late to the party after I posted. :-)

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:42:25pm

Josh Weinstein, aka J. Elvis, was the original puppeteer and voice for Tom Servo on MST3K and is a darn good tweeterer in his own right

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:45:13pm

re: #160 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

en.wikipedia.org

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:45:34pm

re: #156 Teukka

And that’s if we’re lucky, if someone doesn’t decide to lob nukes. In that case…
*does chop-chop sign*

The coastal regions in Asia will be the ones to watch for. Where the hell do millions of Bangladeshis go? Cambodia, Vietnam, a lot of Pacific island nations…all with populations only a few feet above sea level.

This will end up being the largest human emergency migration in all of history, and oil or coal or religion will not be the fighting is over. One of the largest reserves of fresh water on earth is the snowpack of the Himalaya Mountains. India and Pakistan both want the water…and the snowpack is vanishing. Water, food and land will be what we kill each other for.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:46:08pm

...

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:47:56pm
In the most complete legal defense of Mrs. Clinton, Justice Department lawyers insisted they not only have no obligation, but no power, to go back and demand the former top diplomat turn over any documents she hasn’t already given — and neither, they said, can the court order that.

…

“There is no question that Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision — she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server,” the administration lawyers argued. “Under policies issued by both the National Archives and Records Administration (‘NARA’) and the State Department, individual officers and employees are permitted and expected to exercise judgment to determine what constitutes a federal record.”

167
wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:48:24pm

re: #165 Nyet

…

Worked in the Spy, but not on this page.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:49:50pm

re: #167 wrenchwench

Worked during the first attempt in the preview, but not during later ones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:49:57pm
170
freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:50:40pm

re: #145 Teukka

What worries my climatologist friends is the possibility that the thermohaline conveyor goes pear-shaped. The good news is that there won’t be global warming in the northern hemisphere. But that is the only good news. It would cause a refugee crisis which would make the current crisis in Europe look like the line to an icecream truck.

Well, I’m going to take issue with you here. What you’ve written is a misunderstanding of what a THC disruption will do.

The northern hemisphere will still get warmer, both surface temps, temps throughout the troposphere, and the top ocean layers hemisphere wide.

A THC disruption is important to northern Europe because of the suggested lowering of low temps which in winter will seem more dramatic.

Other changes will not be put on hold via THC disruption. Indeed, the mid-latitude regions of the northern hemisphere will circulate the heat that otherwise would have gone into the North Sea.

I also remain doubtful that our models of global circulation at different depths are accurate enough to represent the full effects of a change in circulation at one location on the planet. So, even if the THC is serious disturbed, what affect that will have on, say Australia 50 years later, is difficult to know.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:50:43pm

re: #168 Nyet

What are you trying to post?

172
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:51:18pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

None of which will matter at all to those who want to turn this into a scandal.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:51:20pm

re: #164 Aunty Entity Dragon

The coastal regions in Asia will be the ones to watch for. Where the hell do millions of Bangladeshis go? Cambodia, Vietnam, a lot of Pacific island nations…all with populations only a few feet above sea level.

This will end up being the largest human emergency migration in all of history, and oil or coal or religion will not be the fighting is over. One of the largest reserves of fresh water on earth is the snowpack of the Himalaya Mountains. India and Pakistan both want the water…and the snowpack is vanishing. Water, food and land will be what we kill each other for.

And for what? A handful of individuals and their sycophants who wanted to protect their wealth and power…

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:51:36pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

Wiki ogg player. It worked exactly one time in preview…

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:52:01pm

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

Saw that Buzzfeed also had that story running - that what Clinton did was legal according to the DOJ.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:53:05pm
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Tigger2  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:53:50pm

re: #100 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Now if all the rest Republicans would just pull out of the race the Country would be in a safer place.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:54:58pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

What are you trying to post?

<a class="embedClick" data-opts='{"width":300,"height":20,"type":"iframe"}' href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cy-Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch_(Welsh_pronunciation,_recorded_17-05-2012).ogg?embedplayer=yes">Video</a>
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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:56:36pm

A reporter asked Trump how he would deal with ISIL, and he replied, “First, I’d knock off Khrushchev.”

///

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:56:43pm

New video showing crane collapse at the Grand Mosque in Mecca:

It occurred during an ongoing sandstorm, and they’re quite lucky that the crane didn’t crash into other cranes - spreading the carnage even further. As it is, the death toll continues rising.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:57:09pm

Another good way to post urls without making them active is to use the “pre” tag.

test.com
http://test.com

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 2:57:52pm
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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:01:02pm

After finding this disturbing enough, I decided that I will start watching Adventure Time after all.

Lemongrabs and Lemon-Sweets (Adventure Time) HD

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:01:12pm

re: #170 freetoken

Well, I’m going to take issue with you here. What you’ve written is a misunderstanding of what a THC disruption will do.

The northern hemisphere will still get warmer, both surface temps, temps throughout the troposphere, and the top ocean layers hemisphere wide.

A THC disruption is important to northern Europe because of the suggested lowering of low temps which in winter will seem more dramatic.

Other changes will not be put on hold via THC disruption. Indeed, the mid-latitude regions of the northern hemisphere will circulate the heat that otherwise would have gone into the North Sea.

I also remain doubtful that our models of global circulation at different depths are accurate enough to represent the full effects of a change in circulation at one location on the planet. So, even if the THC is serious disturbed, what affect that will have on, say Australia 50 years later, is difficult to know.

Well, if the circulation is disrupted, it will lead to a winter-time temp decrease in N. Europe, and if it is large enough the snow won’t melt until later summer, which will have a cumulative effect, maybe even causing summers to cease.
However, just the fact that there is a temperature decrease combined with warming elsewhere creates the potential for more storms, regardless if there is an ice-age of sorts in N. Europe.
And enough freak weather in a region where mother nature has been relatively benign can trigger a (mass) migration.

TL;DR is that they know it will be bad, just not how bad or if it will turn outright evil.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:01:27pm

re: #173 Teukka

And for what? A handful of individuals and their sycophants who wanted to protect their wealth and power…

Human beings are not good at long term generational planning. A problem 40 years away is too abstract to imagine, which is why things tend to come down to Oh shit! Whadda we do now?! even though everything could have been averted with much less trauma and expense with a modicum of prior planning.

American culture is especially susceptible to this problem, since we tend to have culture wide amnesia on events only a few months in the past and our business and political models are all built on very short term cycles. Long term planning has been expedited out of our toolbox.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:02:14pm

re: #172 klys (maker of Silmarils)

None of which will matter at all to those who want to turn this into a scandal.

I look forward to D_F’s next posting ignoring the DOJ finding in its entirety.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:02:41pm
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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:06:15pm

Besides yesterday’s big news about the new Homo from the Rising Star expedition, there was another big paleoanthropology result reported this week:

DNA from Neandertal relative may shake up human family tree

In a remarkable technical feat, researchers have sequenced DNA from fossils in Spain that are about 300,000 to 400,000 years old and have found an ancestor—or close relative—of Neandertals. The nuclear DNA, which is the oldest ever sequenced from a member of the human family, may push back the date for the origins of the distinct ancestors of Neandertals and modern humans, according to a presentation here yesterday at the fifth annual meeting of the European Society for the study of human evolution.

[…]

Though the article uses the world “sequenced” and I suppose that is accurate enough, the author does state that the researchers uncovered the values of one to two million base pairs, or about 1/3000th of the full nuclear genome.

Nevertheless, enough informative alleles were recovered to be able to show that these fossils were from humans more close to the Neanderthals than the more eastern Denisovans. Or to modern humans.

This is ironic because earlier recovery of mitochondrial DNA put the mitochondria closer to the Denisovans. The article suggests that this could be another case of inter-species sex. That seems a bit speculative but of course could be the answer. And it raises the old question of whether the splitters are making too many “species” where there could have been one inter-breeding, though sparsely distributed, species of human in Eurasia parallel to us modern humans in Africa.

Anyway, as noted in the story, the other big fall out of this is that it appears we African moderns diverged from the Eurasian Neanderthal-Denisovan complex earlier than previously thought, by 100 to 400 thousand years.

Interesting days to be a paleoanthropologist.

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WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:07:42pm

Apple has rock albums on sale. FYI.

I think I just dowloaded a whole paycheck.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:08:12pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

I look forward to D_F’s next posting ignoring the DOJ finding in its entirety.

apparently it is one of those things that fox news victims are not allowed to know

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:10:04pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

He does realize that we went down that road once before and it far from the Heaven the supporters claim it became the hell on Earth the opponents said it would become?

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:11:08pm

While watching the US Open on the tube (The Joker up 6-0, 4-1 two sets — Boo! Hiss! — over Cilic), spotted Sean Connery in the stands . Love the Elmore Leonard look, sir Sean.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:12:02pm

re: #188 freetoken

Interesting days to be a paleoanthropologist.

Especially if you are quite petite.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:12:50pm

BTW, the creationists have already started their push-back against the Rising Star announcement yesterday.

Over at World Magazine, an article on the Rising Star announcement quoted… Casey Luskin.

They never change.

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Lidane  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:13:06pm

Speaking of long, unhinged screeds, this happened:

Davis’ attorneys released a statement that says Bunning broadened the expanded injunction “to cover anyone in the world who seeks a license for same-sex marriage.”

“Once the initial Injunction was appealed by Kim Davis to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, Judge Bunning had no jurisdiction over it, and thus no authority, to expand the Injunction,” the statement says, noting that the original injunction ordering her to issue marriage licenses “should be moot and dismissed because it applied only to the named plaintiffs who have no further claim.”

wkyt.com

At what point do the courts just start disbarring these nimrods? WTF. They clearly don’t understand how our system of government works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:14:24pm

re: #195 Lidane

Speaking of long, unhinged screeds, this happened:

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At what point do the courts just start disbarring these nimrods? WTF. They clearly don’t understand how our system of government works.

Her lawyers (Liberty Counsel) haven’t got a single rule of law correct since the beginning.
They’re just in this for the fundraising.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:15:01pm

re: #195 Lidane

Speaking of long, unhinged screeds, this happened:

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At what point do the courts just start disbarring these nimrods? WTF. They clearly don’t understand how our system of government works.

The local Bar Assoc has to take up the matter.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:16:01pm

re: #194 freetoken

Has there been a more annoying IDiot than Casey? Even Dembski is not that dumb.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:17:05pm

Scary grandmother face:

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:19:45pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

“And after the convention come to my gingerbread house!”

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:20:33pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Scary grandmother face:

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I had a very scary grandmother. The other one was OK.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:20:35pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Scary grandmother face:

i cant make head or tail out of carson being in 2nd place unless the fundies are splitting off into a 3rd wingnut sect that doesnt like either the trumpists or the wall st gop

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:21:11pm
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:22:09pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:23:15pm

re: #100 Jenner7

Larry Kudlow is the reason I stopped watching CNBC in the morning. What an ass.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:23:19pm

re: #202 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i cant make head or tail out of carson being in 2nd place unless the fundies are splitting off into a 3rd wingnut sect that doesnt like either the trumpists or the wall st gop

I think fundies don’t like themselves, so they don’t know how to like anyone else, either, other than to say ‘Yeah, him’! to a pollster.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:24:33pm

re: #202 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Je$u$.

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:24:54pm

re: #108 b.d.

Who does Rick’s voter go to now?

All ten of them? Too bad the glasses didn’t work out for you, Rick. You were still the dumbest man on the stage.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:25:14pm

re: #202 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i cant make head or tail out of carson being in 2nd place unless the fundies are splitting off into a 3rd wingnut sect that doesnt like either the trumpists or the wall st gop

That’s also the picture I’m seeing, where Carson is getting the anti-establishment types that aren’t supporting Trump.

What will be interesting to see is whether the anti-establishment types can unite behind a single candidate. If so, that candidate will get the nomination.

I’m glad its Carson in #2 as opposed to someone truly malignant like Cruz.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:25:37pm

Trump Complains of Audio Issues During Awkward Remarks to Ukrainian Conference

Numerous times he refers to Ukraine as “The Ukraine”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:26:32pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Scary grandmother face:

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I think it will be 2050 and Phyillis will still be shitting on working women.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:27:30pm
The first day of the 12th annual Yalta European Strategy opened at Kyiv’s Mystetskyi Arsenal on Sept. 10, the second time the conference hasn’t been held at its traditional venue - the Livadia Palace in Yalta - because of Russia’s invasion and illegal annexation of the Ukrainian territory of Crimea in March 2014.
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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:27:50pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I think it will be 2050 and Phyillis will still be shitting on working women.

That harridan has made an entire career out of promoting the notion that women should be barefoot and pregnant. Such a damn shame she never took her own advice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:28:20pm

re: #200 Nyet

“And after the convention come to my gingerbread house!”

Well played but I think Phyillis is so mean she doesn’t even have a gingerbread house to give up the pretense of kindness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:29:07pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

That harridan has made an entire career out of promoting the notion that women should be barefoot and pregnant. Such a damn shame she never took her own advice.

I was shocked that she made her national debut in ‘52z

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:29:44pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

That harridan has made an entire career out of promoting the notion that women should be barefoot and pregnant. Such a damn shame she never took her own advice.

What else is to be expected from the founder of Ladies Against Women?

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Tigger2  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:33:35pm

re: #210 Dr. Matt

Trump Complains of Audio Issues During Awkward Remarks to Ukrainian Conference

Numerous times he refers to Ukraine as “The Ukraine”.

Watched the video Fuck Trump, Obama has more respect from the world leaders then Bush had or Trump ever will have.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:34:04pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Scary grandmother face:

Apologies to the spirits of Lon Chaney, Jr. and Maria Ouspenskaya.


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