Here We Go Again: Kim Davis Asks Appeals Court to Let Her Stop Same Sex Marriages Again

The bigot brigade goes into action again
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It took Kim Davis less than a week to start pushing her bigoted agenda again, enabled by a team of religious right lawyers who are playing her like a violin: Kentucky Clerk Asks for Order Allowing All Couples to Marry to Be Put on Hold.

WASHINGTON — Lawyers for Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis asked a federal appeals court on Friday to effectively end the requirement, currently in place under an order from the trial judge, that all couples be allowed to marry in the county.

On Aug. 12, U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning ordered that Davis end her “no marriage licenses” policy as to the four couples — two same-sex and two opposite-sex couples — who brought the lawsuit. Davis had implemented the policy after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of nationwide marriage equality on June 26; Davis has religious objections to her name appearing on same-sex couples’ licenses.

I have to take issue with that last sentence I highlighted, because in reality Kim Davis doesn’t have “religious objections,” and I wish media would stop legitimizing her hateful crusade by repeating this bogus claim. The simple truth is that she’s a homophobic bigot, represented by lawyers who work for an outright hate group, Liberty Counsel, affiliated with the fanatical Liberty University founded by Jerry Falwell. This has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with regressive far right politics.

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182 comments
1
freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:14:10pm

Let me off the merry-go-round…

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:16:16pm

Why does the theme music for The Beverly Hillbillies go off in my head every time I see that photo?

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Nyet  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:16:23pm

It doesn’t matter whether she has any religious objections or not. Your religion doesn’t make you an Übermensch above everyone.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:17:41pm

re: #2 nines09

Why does the theme music for The Beverly Hillbillies go off in my head every time I see that photo?

The Clampetts were the Algonquin Round Table compared to these cretins.

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allegro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:18:39pm

She seems kinda stupid.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:18:45pm

Wasn’t it part of her being released that she stop this nonsense?

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:20:43pm

re: #5 allegro

She seems kinda stupid.

I’ve never met a smart bigot. I’ve heard they exist, but I have not met one.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:20:53pm

re: #5 allegro

She seems kinda stupid.

Looking at who’s giving her legal advice (The Liberty Counsel, which exists solely to block gay rights), it would be hard to sort out her personal stupid from a larger body of stupid.

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Nyet  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:21:45pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

I’ve never met a smart bigot. I’ve heard they exist, but I have not met one.

So brain is not overrated? /

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:21:57pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Had neighbors who always watched that show. I didn’t get it, but then, maybe I just missed all the women dressed in the short-shorts liberally sprinkled around the set.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:22:10pm

If I were Bunning, I would cite Kim Davis as being a vexatious litigant, dismiss the filing with predjudice and then I would go after the attornneys to show cause as to why they should be allowed to continue to practice before any Federal Court.

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wrenchwench  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:22:36pm

re: #10 Nyet

So brain is not overrated? /

Has its uses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:23:40pm

ipsos has a page with a link to the full transcript of the September 3 hearing.
I read the entire transcript and all I have to say about Liberty Counsel lawyers is that they are dumb as box of rocks.

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allegro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:24:00pm

re: #11 freetoken

Had neighbors who always watched that show. I didn’t get it, but then, maybe I just missed all the women dressed in the short-shorts liberally sprinkled around the set.

My dad, the Bostonian, loved that show. Said it was cuz of the pretty girls.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:25:34pm

Cruz is locked onto Kim like a lamprey.

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Lidane  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:25:53pm

This has almost nothing to do with religion and everything to do with money and job security.

Kim Davis has been in that office since she graduated from high school and since her mother was the County Clerk before her. Find me ANY other job in 2015 where a minimally skilled high school graduate like her is going to make a guaranteed $80k/year salary.

She’s trying to hang on to her paycheck and to the little fiefdom she and her family have carved out for themselves. Hating on gays is an added bonus. She wants her paycheck and none of the actual responsibility for the job.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:26:20pm

re: #15 allegro

My dad, the Bostonian, loved that show. Said it was cuz of the pretty girls.

It was pretty stupid, but I did love Kathy Baker.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:26:31pm

re: #17 Lidane

Think of it as the local minimum wage for the Davis clan.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:28:05pm

re: #2 nines09

Why does the theme music for The Beverly Hillbillies go off in my head every time I see that photo?

Part of the appeal of the Beverly Hillbillies was how often the country folk outsmarted the educated city people.

I would suggest hearing banjos instead.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:28:31pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Gahh! I had to watch that over at grandpa’s house. Had this (the motorcycle) to keep me busy, though not during grandpa’s shows.

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allegro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:28:35pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It was pretty stupid, but I did love Kathy Baker.

Roy Clark was okay but I’d mostly exit the space when dad was watching it to do something more fun, like watch the grass grow.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:28:48pm

re: #20 Belafon

Yes. That was part of the story line.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:28:55pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Ah, yes. That was the show where I heard Roy Clark perform “Yesterday (when I was Young)”, which was a hit here in the US, but I did not know at the time it was actually written by Charles Aznavour (which was translated form the original French chancon.)

I much preferred Aznavour’s version once I heard it. Roy Clark played it at Mickey Mantle’s Funeral.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:29:27pm

It is against my religion to have to listen to morons, can I have her banned from my TV?

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Nyet  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:30:28pm

re: #25 b.d.

It is against my religion to have to listen to morons, can I have her banned from my TV?

Yes, please.

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Lidane  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:30:55pm

re: #12 Eric The Fruit Bat

If I were Bunning, I would cite Kim Davis as being a vexatious litigant, dismiss the filing with predjudice and then I would go after the attornneys to show cause as to why they should be allowed to continue to practice before any Federal Court.

Seriously. I’d find a way to sanction these Liberty Counsel idiots for wasting everyone’s time.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:31:38pm

re: #2 nines09

Why does the theme music for The Beverly Hillbillies go off in my head every time I see that photo?

Kimmy reminds me of the local yokels they talk to on Finding Bigfoot.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:32:12pm

This still haunts my dreams. From time to time.

You Were Gone

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:32:43pm

re: #16 nines09

Huckabee, not Cruz. Cruz got blocked from some of the more jucier media appearances.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:33:07pm

re: #20 Belafon

Part of the appeal of the Beverly Hillbillies was how often the country folk outsmarted the educated city people.

I would suggest hearing banjos instead.

Actually, me and my friends when we were younger used to mimic that theme song when we witnessed dumb as bag of hammers people. Bing bing a bing a bing abing….Yeehaw!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:33:19pm

re: #30 Eric The Fruit Bat

Huckabee, not Cruz. Cruz got blocked from some of the more jucier media appearances.

I think nines is referring to the picture at the top of this post.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:34:28pm

Evening Lizards. It hasn’t been brought up yet, but I have to wonder if this display of bravado isn’t being fueled by the Oaf Keepers promise to protect her from arrest for contempt. If so, stand by for some fireworks.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:35:12pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think nines is referring to the picture at the top of this post.

Yes. The larger lamprey latched on when the media was swirling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:35:57pm

re: #33 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. It hasn’t been brought up yet, but I have to wonder if this display of bravado isn’t being fueled by the Oaf Keepers promise to protect her from arrest for contempt. If so, stand by for some fireworks.

Oath Keepers aren’t going to show up. Kim’s lawyers told them not to come.

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EPR-radar  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:36:36pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

I’ve never met a smart bigot. I’ve heard they exist, but I have not met one.

I haven’t personally met a smart bigot either, but clear data points for this do exist —- e.g. William Shockley.

So smart bigots are rare but not unknown.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:36:37pm

As if I needed another reason to hate flying.

Man urinates on fellow passengers aboard flight, police say

latimes.com

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:37:32pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

This still haunts my dreams. From time to time.

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Video

You just totally flashed me back to this one. Gloom, despair & agony on me.

Gloom, Despair & Agony…

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:37:33pm

Thankfully the bigot brigade is going to lose again. Than hopefully Kim Davis will get the message that its futile, and quit her job, rather than go back to jail, instead of fighting a battle that there’s no way she could win.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:37:37pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

As if I needed another reason to hate flying.

Man urinates on fellow passengers aboard flight, police say

latimes.com

Now I finally have a reason to support guns on planes. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:38:02pm

Kim Davis gets to choose again.

The Rowan County clerk returns to work Monday. If she obeys the order of U.S. District Judge David Bunning to not interfere with her deputy clerks issuing marriage licenses — which no longer bear her name — then the national controversy over her religious objection to same-sex marriage should wind down.

However, if Davis somehow tries to stop her deputies from assisting betrothed couples, then expect the fireworks to continue. Bunning is keeping in touch with the deputy clerks through individual defense lawyers whom he appointed. He also might be watching Twitter.

Read more here: kentucky.com

Her entire beef was her name being on the forms.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:39:41pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

I expect the goalposts will move Monday.

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EPR-radar  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:40:32pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Her entire beef was her name being on the forms.

Her entire stated beef was her name on the forms. Her actual beef is that she wants to make her bigotry public policy in Rowan county.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:41:23pm

re: #43 EPR-radar

Her entire stated beef was her name on the forms. Her actual beef is that she wants to make her bigotry public policy in Rowan county.

Which is why she’s forbidden the clerks to sign too.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:41:30pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Now I finally have a reason to support guns on planes. //

What makes America great is that this guy will have no problem at all buying a gun anytime he chooses.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:42:09pm

re: #45 Skip Intro

What makes America great is that this guy will have no problem at all buying a gun anytime he chooses.

American exceptioanlism. //

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:42:11pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Which is why she’s forbidden the clerks to sign too.

I want to be the clerk that Kimmy fires for signing a certificate.

Please?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:42:23pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s see what happens.

I have a suspicion that come next week they’ll be some new objection.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:42:32pm

Kim Davis wants her fifteen minutes of fame to be expanded to thirty. If she tries anything she should go back to jail and stay there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:43:32pm

re: #47 b.d.

I want to be the clerk that Kimmy fires for signing a certificate.

Please?

Brian Mason has already said he’ll issue licenses no matter what she says.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:43:55pm
Davis has religious objections to her name appearing on same-sex couples’ licenses.

Whatever the validity (or not) of “religious objections”, I also wonder about his ” her name appearing on same-sex couples’ licenses.”

One of the facts about records in societies is that they often get lost, destroyed, etc. None of these records last for ever.

Example: looking at the history of Rowan county:

Courthouse fires on 21 Mar 1864 and in the 1890s destroyed many records.

So, about what exactly, in the nature of these records, is the objection of having a clerk’s name appear on them?

How many county clerks have their names on marriage licenses of people who turned out to be murderers and rapists. Are the guilt of the latter transmitted to the clerk who signed their marriage licenses? What about all the wife-beaters? Are the clerks who signed the marriage licenses of the wife-beaters also guilty for the abuse, as those clerks evidently had to be in the path of causality that led to there being a wife to be beaten?

Looking at this objection by Davis in detail shows that it is a very silly complaint by her.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:44:05pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

A solution is being searched for. The passenger’s numb feet and sciatica pain will make them forget all about the piss.

Plus they look easy to hose off, for hygiene. Win win.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:44:12pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian Mason has already said he’ll issue licenses no matter what she says.

If Kim fires him he’ll end up owning the county.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:44:33pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:46:37pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oath Keepers aren’t going to show up. Kim’s lawyers told them not to come.

And that’s going to stop them or those who take it to the extreme? Like the Sovereign Citizens types? Deity’s above, I hope I am wrong. But I suspect come Monday she will pull her shit again,a warrant will be issued, and some asshole will try to prevent it from being carried out. I hope I a wrong.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:46:43pm

One thing I’m curious about regarding Davis and the Rowan County court - does anyone know if there were any instances of mixed-race couples obtaining marriage licenses at the location, or if there were any reports of said couples having problems with obtaining one? I ask this because the anti-miscegenation crowd and the same-sex opponents tend to run in the same religious circles, given that Loving v Virginia was cited as precedent in the Obergefell v Hodges decision at least a dozen times - I’d like to see if there are some parallels here.

Since the Liberty Counsel is now involved, given their founder’s well-known racist history (he was one of the most vocal opponents of mixed-race marriages before -and after Loving), and his bigoted beliefs are still influencing the organization eight years after his death - it’s pretty clear where their loyalties lie.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:47:14pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now I hope when the next election cycle happens for County Clerk in Ketucky, both of the Davis’ get shown the door. Negative publicity stays around far longer than positive, and if you’re a state like Kentucky trying to get companies to move into your state, this is exactly the kind of shit corporations don’t like to see. Jindhal found that out first hand when the CEO of IBM sent him a letter when he announced his nice little anti-LGBT executive order while IBM was opening up a new LA facility, saying that such a policy will seriously impact our plans and is also against IBM’s own non-discrimmination policy.

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William Lewis  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:48:35pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Sad to say, but I really didn’t mind that show while growing up. I did prefer it when Roy & Buck were playing or, especially, when Glen Campbell was a musical guest. The music was always better than the jokes.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:50:55pm

re: #52 Amory Blaine

These look real comfy too. Coming soon to your airline because airplane travel isn’t as miserable as it can be.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:51:37pm

re: #31 nines09

Actually, me and my friends when we were younger used to mimic that theme song when we witnessed dumb as bag of hammers people. Bing bing a bing a bing abing….Yeehaw!

Then there were The Bel-Arabs on Fridays:

Now this is the story of a man named Abdul
A poor Bedouin trying to keep his family full
Then one day he was shooting at some Jews
And up through the ground come a-bubbling ooze

Oil, that is: Persian Perrier—Saudi Soda.

Now the first thing you know, Abdul’s a billionaire
The kinfolk said “you gotta move away from there”
They said California’s a place without a care
So they packed up the Rolls and they moved to Bel-Air

Swimming pools…movie stars…Jews!

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:53:21pm

Frank Lloyd Wright was a vile communist! Un-American, Socialist! Probably also wanted to take our guns!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:55:47pm

re: #61 CriticalDragon1177

Frank Lloyd Wright was a vile communist! Un-American, probably also wanted to take our guns!

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It’s actually quite remarkable reactionary a lot of right wing sentiments are not just socially but economically. I can’t tell you the number of times and this sadly has come from a lot of younger people that they odn’t see how unions have a place in modern society. I think so many people see the benefits unions have given them and they just take ti all for granted that those protections would stay there without the unions.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:56:34pm

It’s in that sense why “Libertarianism” isn’t revolutionary at all. It would take us to the worst policies of what Twain called the Gilded Age.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:57:09pm

re: #56 RadicalModerate

Wikipedia wants to tell me that alcohol sales are prohibited in the county. Sounds like a typical hyper-religious American society.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:57:11pm

Did MLK have two presidential candidates and a rally outside the jail when he was released from custody?

Didn’t think so.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:58:53pm

PBS in beg-a-thon mode. A re-run of Simon and Garfunkel in Central Park. :)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:59:26pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

Did MLK have two presidential candidates and a rally outside the jail when he was released from custody?

Didn’t think so.

Oh come on, everyone knows that MLK was released from jail to A Change Gonna Come by Sam Cooke with JFK by his side. //

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 4:59:51pm

re: #61 CriticalDragon1177

Frank Lloyd Wright was a vile communist! Un-American, Socialist! Probably also wanted to take our guns!

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I’m absolutely sure that’s not how Senator Sherman intended the Sherman Anti-Trust act, but up until Teddy Roosevelt no actual monopoly, no matter how egregious, was ever found to be in violation of it, but many people were jailed for advocating a boycott or strike—“Illegal combinations in restraint of trade.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:02:29pm

RWNJs see America’s golden economic age as the 1880’s. Ya know same era where child labor was a mainstay and where even considering unionizing would mean a trip from the company police. Anti union people love to talk about union corruption and I won’t deny that union corruption has happened but corporate corruption always has and always will be a bigger problem. That’s why it’s laughable for a corporate hack like Scott Walker to talk about how he “took” on the union bosses, oh you took on teachers, man you’re so tough Scotty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:03:02pm

re: #64 freetoken

Wikipedia wants to tell me that alcohol sales are prohibited in the county. Sounds like a typical hyper-religious American society.

Rowan County is technically “dry” as are several other counties in the area.
However, the City of Morehead has three establishments that have a liquor license.
It’s some weird technicality in the state law.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:04:06pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rowan County is technically “dry” as are several other counties in the area.
However, the City of Morehead has three establishments that have liquor license.
It’s some weird technicality in the state law.

That is odd. Man I could never live in a dry county.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:05:35pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hell, they bombed striking workers. This is never taught in class. And hundreds of others where people who wanted to Unionize were beaten and killed. Bad unions. Evil unions. That was the price of the right to organize and strike. Fast forward to today. *spit*

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:05:47pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rowan County is technically “dry” as are several other counties in the area.
However, the City of Morehead has three establishments that have liquor license.
It’s some weird technicality in the state law.

Man, I thought it was regressive when we (I say “we”—I was 10 years old) repealed the Blue laws in 1962—but that was just no alcohol sales on Sundays or Election Day.

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blueraven  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:06:39pm

Shame to see what “conservatism” has done to a once creative mind.
This ad is neither funny nor factual.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:06:44pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

That is odd. Man I could never live in a dry county.

It only restricts the drinking of people too poor to own a car.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:07:05pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

That is odd. Man I could never live in a dry county.

My county is “dry” but there are at least five different places in the county seat where you can buy beer and alcohol (two of the places that sell beer are gas stations).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:08:28pm

re: #72 nines09

Hell, they bombed striking workers. This is never taught in class. And hundreds of others where people who wanted to Unionize were beaten and killed. Bad unions. Evil unions. That was the price of the right to organize and strike. Fast forward to today. *spit*

We take so much for granted. That’s why Labor Day is important to celebrate. Your 40 hour work week? Your weekend? Thank a union for that. We live much easier lives thanks to those people before us. I am lucky in a sense since one set of my family were unionized coal miners who loved John L. Lewis as much as they did FDR and my dad’s dad was a labor arbitrator. Dad’s dad came from a well to do family but he sympathized with the little guy, go figure since he married a girl (my grandmother) who wasn’t as well off.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:09:00pm

re: #75 jaunte

It only restricts the drinking of people too poor to own a car.

True.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:09:02pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

That is odd. Man I could never live in a dry county.

Here in N. Texas there are a lot of “moist” counties, you can buy beer and wine but not booze.

Every time it shows up on the ballot to allow liquor sales the churches and the guys who own the nearest liquor stores to the moist counties partner together to help squash the vote.

Strange bedfellows

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:09:54pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

My county is “dry” but there are at least five different places in the county seat where you can buy beer and alcohol (two of the places that sell beer are gas stations).

I guess I am so used to being able to buy beer just about anywhere whether that be a grocery store or convenience store but even we have our limits since you have to buy liquor at an ABC store.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:10:31pm

re: #38 #CampaignZero

What I say about my yard: “If it weren’t for crab grass I’d have no grass at all.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:10:36pm

re: #79 b.d.

Here in N. Texas there are a lot of “moist” counties, you can buy beer and wine but not booze.

Every time it shows up on the ballot to allow liquor sales the churches and the guys who own the nearest liquor stores to the moist counties partner together to help squash the vote.

Strange bedfellows

That’s the Baptists and Bootleggers thing I remember learning about in economics- when two groups with what would appear to be totally conflicting interests team up. Kinda like how the drugdealers oppose drug legalization ya know?

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:10:44pm

re: #56 RadicalModerate

Checking the 1930 census, it does not appear as if there were many African Americans in Rowan County. So there may not have been any opportunities for “miscegenation” in the first place.

The 1860 slave schedule showed just 142 slaves in Rowan county, none in any large concentration but two family clans - Wilsons, Greens - appeared to be the major slave holders in the county. About 31 of the slaves were listed as “mulatto”, FWIW.

KY was not part of the confederacy and Rowan county was not a big slave state. But of course that doesn’t mean much when it comes to discrimination (e.g., some Union states had very discriminatory laws.)

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:11:07pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rowan County is technically “dry” as are several other counties in the area.
However, the City of Morehead has three establishments that have a liquor license.
It’s some weird technicality in the state law.

I was going to say, I’ve been to Morehead, had a beer with my dinner at a cafe, and have utilized the drive-thru window of their liquor store.
I couldn’t picture a college town like Morehead being dry

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steve_davis  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:11:12pm

re: #4 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Clampetts were the Algonquin Round Table compared to these cretins.

That’s the Algonquin Fancy Eatin’ Table to you, fella.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:11:46pm

Eastern Kentucky IIRC like many parts of Appalachia is overwhelmingly white. Not just white but whites of English and Scots-Irish descent.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:13:38pm

Found myself debating this the other day since a friend brought it to my attention that Thursday was the late Otis Redding’s birthday but I can’t figure out who I enjoy more: Otis, Sam Cooke, or James Brown. All were very talented so I guess ultimately i’m happy to say I enjoy all their music. It sucks that we lost Otis and Sam so young and so tragically I may add.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:14:33pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

My father was a Teamsters local 107 member. Dirty. They attempted to get the AFL-CIO to represent them in a vote. They were called The Voice. They were defeated. I watched people get beat in the streets in Philly over that. look.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:15:44pm

re: #59 Skip Intro

These look real comfy too. Coming soon to your airline because airplane travel isn’t as miserable as it can be.

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Gad! It would be like standing up for the whole flight. Fortunately, I haven’t had to had to travel by air for nearly fifteen years. To me, airlines had already gone to shit back then. My heart goes out to the frequent flyers of today.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:16:14pm

re: #88 nines09

My father was a Teamsters local 107 member. Dirty. They attempted to get the AFL-CIO to represent them in a vote. They were called The Voice. They were defeated. I watched people get beat in the streets in Philly over that. look.

I always found it interesting that for all the talk from the right about union corruption that Hoffa ended up being pardoned by Nixon. Thanks though, I was not familiar with this particular chapter.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:16:21pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rowan County is technically “dry” as are several other counties in the area.
However, the City of Morehead has three establishments that have a liquor license.
It’s some weird technicality in the state law.

If it’s similar to how it works in Texas, then those establishments are considered clubs for the purpose of the law. Until the country I live in went wet, the Chili’s had to be called a club. It required them to not only look at my license to verify that I was old enough, but to keep a record of it so it could be checked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:20:03pm

re: #91 Belafon

If it’s similar to how it works in Texas, then those establishments are considered clubs for the purpose of the law. Until the country I live in went wet, the Chili’s had to be called a club. It required them to not only look at my license to verify that I was old enough, but to keep a record of it so it could be checked.

Oh, I forgot that the VFW here also has a liquor license.
But the other license holders here are just regular businesses.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:21:42pm

re: #89 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Gad! It would be like standing up for the whole flight. Fortunately, I haven’t had to had to travel by air for nearly fifteen years. To me, airlines had already gone to shit back then. My heart goes out to the frequent flyers of today.

I’ve stood for a whole flight before, twice. From near Muskogee OK to near Ft. Smith AR.
Wasn’t that bad. But it was in a CH-47 packed in with about 70+ other people, and an auxiliary fuel tank

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:22:17pm

re: #74 blueraven

Shame to see what “conservatism” has done to a once creative mind.
This ad is neither funny nor factual.

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$$ = Conservatism. They either are rich or want to be rich. And will step on anyone anywhere to get there. It is that precious to them.

Funny how Energy Secretary Moniz isn’t noted?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:24:19pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

PBS in beg-a-thon mode. A re-run of Simon and Garfunkel in Central Park. :)

They only show the good stuff during pledge drives.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:24:23pm

re: #79 b.d.

Here in N. Texas there are a lot of “moist” counties, you can buy beer and wine but not booze.

Every time it shows up on the ballot to allow liquor sales the churches and the guys who own the nearest liquor stores to the moist counties partner together to help squash the vote.

Strange bedfellows

Memories. Kleberg County was dry when I lived there. You could buy beer (Subject to Blue Law restrictions on hours and days). A few miles away, across the county line, was the town of Ben Bolt, Texas, which was a thriving town of three liquor stores - one of which also sold gasoline. Weird part about Texas then was that it had no open container law: you could toast the State Police as they roared past you.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:24:36pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Hoffa was a very good person to lead the Teamsters at that time in history. But he made his deals with the devil and screwed the very people who he swore to represent. It became a huge patronage game. He hired goons to enforce his will and became no better than the companies that ruled before him. He was set up. By who is the$ 64,000 question. Unions used to provide apprenticeships. Now you are supposed to go fork over a few grand to a “Tech” school and learn how to weld so you can rake in 12 bucks an hour in a right to work shop.

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EPR-radar  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:28:16pm

re: #94 #CampaignZero

$$ = Conservatism. They either are rich or want to be rich. And will step on anyone anywhere to get there. It is that precious to them.

Funny how Energy Secretary Moniz isn’t noted?

Which species of conservative is most odious has become a trick question by now. All three (social, fiscal, and defense) have become so awful that there is no non-conservative point of comparison. Relative evaluation of these three flavors of landfill fire fumes is too heavily affected by sampling artifacts from the news cycle to be meaningful.

All that is certain is that conservatives are rapidly getting worse on all three fronts.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:30:09pm

One more postcard from Memory Lane. At the time I lived there, Texas did not allow bars to sell liquor by the drink. They could sell beer. If you wanted hard liquor you had to bring your own bottle and then pay the club for “setups” which were dollar-apiece plastic cups of watery soda to be used as mixers - or poured on the floor to make room for your room temperature booze.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:30:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:31:12pm

re: #98 EPR-radar

Which species of conservative is most odious has become a trick question by now. All three (social, fiscal, and defense) have become so awful that there is no non-conservative point of comparison. Relative evaluation of these three flavors of landfill fire fumes is too heavily affected by sampling artifacts from the news cycle to be meaningful.

All that is certain is that conservatives are rapidly getting worse on all three fronts.

That’s the problem. All of them are getting worse in their own way.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:31:16pm

LOL

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:31:40pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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LOL

Pot, kettle, etc.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:31:55pm

Totally OT, but WTF? Why is this former IRA supporting, scare mongering ASSHAT who speaks at anti-Muslim conferences allowed to be on the House Committee on Homeland Security?? Gah! It makes me want to kick something.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:32:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:33:03pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

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I think he’s honestly the last Republican presidential candidate I could actually see myself voting for but I also don’t know how I would have felt about the Nixon pardon had I lived through it. That said, I do like Ford from what I know about him- pro-choice, pro gay rights, and to his credit he always stood up for his lone Supreme Court pick, John Paul Stevens whenever wingnuts whined about him being too “liberal.” Ford’s mindset was basically that Stevens had shown integrity on the court throughout his career and that was the thing. Now there are some parts of the Ford legacy I don’t like. He did give Cheney and Rumsfeld two prominent jobs.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:33:27pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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LOL

Coming from a faker himself, this is pretty funny.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:34:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:34:51pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

Totally OT, but WTF? Why is this former IRA supporting, scare mongering ASSHAT who speaks at anti-Muslim conferences allowed to be on the House Committee on Homeland Security?? Gah! It makes me want to kick something.

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What galls me is he only turned on the IRA after Gerry Adams came out against Bush’s foreign policy. So basically if Sinn Fein had been quiet about the Bush doctrine, Pete would still be the IRA’s best bud in Congress. I’ve made no secret of the fact here that I sympathize with the Irish Republican movement but I also don’t attack all Muslims the way this hypocrite does.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:35:08pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Steve Peoples ✔
@sppeoples
Rand tells me re: Trump: “Someone has to bring him down. Someone has to point out to the American public that he’s a fake.”

LOL

Rand: “I know Trump is a fake. I’ve seen him at several of the meetings I attended.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:35:09pm

re: #108 jaunte

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Dickish people for a dickish candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:35:35pm

If Trump is such a fake, Rand, why did you associate yourself with him? You both suck.

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stpaulbear  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:35:53pm

re: #61 CriticalDragon1177

But Wright, like every other architect who teaches architecture, had students who paid for the privilege of working for him, so he gets some capitalist points for that.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:36:33pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Another Trump supporter:

“I don’t like the girl with the sign that says you’re an immigrant too; I’m not an immigrant.”
hellomissjoi.tumblr.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:37:11pm

Anyone know why certain files may be in the itunes library but not in my itunes folder. This is odd. I tried consolidating but still there’s about 85 files that I have in my iTunes library that are not in my iTunes folder.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:37:39pm

re: #114 jaunte

Another Trump supporter:

What tribe is asshole from?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:38:14pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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LOL

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:38:15pm

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

Rand: “I know Trump is a fake. I’ve seen him at several of the meetings I attended.”

What’s that saying about a kettle and a pot……

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:38:34pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Dummkopfas.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:39:35pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Like Bobby Jindal, I agree with the sentiment, it just sounds uncredible from Rand.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:41:10pm

The 2015-16 GOP presidential nomination process in .gif form.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:43:20pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

Totally OT, but WTF? Why is this former IRA supporting, scare mongering ASSHAT who speaks at anti-Muslim conferences allowed to be on the House Committee on Homeland Security?? Gah! It makes me want to kick something.

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Screw Peter King.

btw, Thank you President Obama and other government employees for keeping the country safe without dialing up the “everybody panic, they’re going to kill us!” knob on 9/11

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:43:23pm

re: #99 Higgs Boson’s Mate

One more postcard from Memory Lane. At the time I lived there, Texas did not allow bars to sell liquor by the drink. They could sell beer. If you wanted hard liquor you had to bring your own bottle and then pay the club for “setups” which were dollar-apiece plastic cups of watery soda to be used as mixers - or poured on the floor to make room for your room temperature booze.

Bottle clubs when I was in college. They stayed open laaate.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:44:28pm
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The War TARDIS  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:44:42pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I admit I would lean against the IRA, and that there are many Americans who should be in prison for fundraising and supporting the IRA.

Let’s but a name up here of one of the IRA’s victims.

Jean McConville, killed by an IRA unit in the 1970’s, possibly a directly killed by Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Finn today,

Inam Bashir, a Muslim working at Canary Wharf when it was bombed by the IRA in 1996. He was working at a Newsagents office when the bomb went off.

Enniskillen. I’ll let Bono explain.

U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live Rattle And Hum)

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:45:31pm

re: #124 jaunte

He still hasn’t erased that tweet. Incredible indeed.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:46:58pm

re: #124 jaunte

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Go Bobby GO.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:47:20pm

re: #125 The War TARDIS

I admit I would lean against the IRA, and that there are many Americans who should be in prison for fundraising and supporting the IRA.

Let’s but a name up here of one of the IRA’s victims.

Jean McConville, killed by an IRA unit in the 1970’s, possibly a directly killed by Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Finn today,

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Inam Bashir, a Muslim working at Canary Wharf when it was bombed by the IRA in 1996. He was working at a Newsagents office when the bomb went off.

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Enniskillen. I’ll let Bono explain.

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You can be an Irish Republican and not support the IRA. I am familiar with the IRA’s violence believe me but I still support the cause of an united Ireland.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:50:14pm

re: #108 jaunte

She seemed quite proud of herself.

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:50:47pm

re: #125 The War TARDIS

Ever read Trinity? It’s a work of fiction with a strong foundation in actual history. Fascinating read. Long book too. Trinity

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:50:56pm

re: #129 freetoken

And completely confident she could do that without repercussion.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:51:04pm

re: #127 #CampaignZero

Go Bobby GO.

Is there one non-moron running for the GOP nomination?

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:53:03pm

re: #132 b.d.

Is there one non-moron running for the GOP nomination?

Nope.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:53:31pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

I don’t know enough about Pataki to decide if he’s a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:53:51pm

re: #130 nines09

Ever read Trinity? It’s a work of fiction with a strong foundation in actual history. Fascinating read. Long book too. Trinity

I actually have a photo book that Leon and his wife did when they traveled to Ireland in the early 70’s. It belonged to my grandmother. Amazing photos. A fun story though. My Dad was looking through the book one day and this was in his using MS Paint to draw things phase and he drew a picture of Thoor Ballylee, a Castle in Galway where W.B Yeats resided for a couple summers. Well the previous summer when I had studied in Ireland, I had visited said castle but my Dad had no idea about that when he drew it. Another funny Irish story is when a guy came in to work on installing my room fan, he told my other grandmother (non Irish) that my Irish Brigade Civil War flag was a Sinn Fein/IRA flag. I just had to laugh my ass off at that.
en.wikipedia.org

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:54:15pm

re: #134 freetoken

I don’t know enough about Pataki to decide if he’s a moron.

My assumption is always “yes” until proven otherwise. Especially after I got burned by Sarah “I looked smart until I opened my damn mouth” Palin.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:54:31pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Anyone know why certain files may be in the itunes library but not in my itunes folder. This is odd. I tried consolidating but still there’s about 85 files that I have in my iTunes library that are not in my iTunes folder.

How iTunes works is one of the great unknowables of the universe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:54:39pm

re: #134 freetoken

I don’t know enough about Pataki to decide if he’s a moron.

Pataki may be the most decent guy running on their side which means he should get less votes than my graduating high school class.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:55:03pm

re: #124 jaunte

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Shown:

Classy

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:55:49pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

How iTunes works is one of the great unknowables of the universe.

It’s an Apple product, so the answer probably involves dark voodoo magic.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:56:05pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

How iTunes works is one of the great unknowables of the universe.

Heh indeed. I am just going to try to finish this one day at a time. I am still working on the project to put my music back in iTunes after ITunes lost it in February. Long story.

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:56:37pm

re: #139 b.d.

Jindal is probably confused as to why he’s at the bottom of the pack. He’s lashing out but I doubt that will get him off the kiddy’s table at the next “debate”.

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The War TARDIS  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:56:50pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I don’t.

Up until 1970, the Ta Namere laws were one the books. The Civil Rights of Protestants were not guaranteed in the Republic of Ireland.

Not only that, but the number of people who want to rejoin with the 26 other counties is not anywhere near a majority. More like 17-19% want to rejoin Ireland.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:56:51pm

We’re so screwed.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:57:34pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

Jesus!

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I’m sick of uneducated voters ruining our country, how’s that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:58:27pm

“Davis has religious objections to her name appearing on same-sex couples’ licenses.”

Real simple solution to that problem: resign.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:58:27pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

Jesus!

@MlSSTHOT
@realDonaldTrump we need Donald Trump I’m sick of having uneducated men running our country

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:58:36pm

Infantilism rules the twitterz.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:58:39pm

Here’s two ISS transits—90 minutes apart:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:58:50pm

re: #139 b.d.

Shown:

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Classy

Now, now Bobby I thought he was going to endorse you because you both share a profound hatred of gays. And to be honest, I may even cut Trump some small slack on not knowing Corbyn. I very much doubt that Bobby knew who he was before he became Labour’s new leader. Which reminds me, I did some reading on him, seems that Labour really wants to start a new chapter since Corbyn is totally not a Blairte or Brownite at all. British politics is interesting. I really have no idea what party I’d affiliate myself with.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2015 • 5:59:14pm

re: #142 freetoken

Jindal is probably confused as to why he’s at the bottom of the pack. He’s lashing out but I doubt that will get him off the kiddy’s table at the next “debate”.

Jindal is going to have to debate Rick Santorum, Lindsey Graham and George Pataki next week.

I’d be pissed too.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:00:33pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Having to use iTunes scares the crap out of me. Sometimes when I’m trying to import music I’ve ripped from a CD, iTunes just flat out refuses to recognize it. And WTH can’t I just delete a song or album from my device instead of deleting it first from iTunes and then have it delete it?

Whatever happened to good old drag and drop, other than *STEVE* didn’t believe in it?

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The War TARDIS  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:01:35pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I like his domestic policies. But his Foreign Policy is completely awful. He’s fallen for the Russian Line on Ukraine, when we need everyone in Europe to be in concert to eventually snap Russia’s back economically.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:01:51pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

“Davis has religious objections to her name appearing on same-sex couples’ licenses.”

Real simple solution to that problem: resign.

But her name is no longer on the forms.
They’re just flailing at anything now.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:02:51pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

Having to use iTunes scares the crap out of me. Sometimes when I’m trying to import music I’ve ripped from a CD, iTunes just flat out refuses to recognize it. And WTH can’t I just delete a song or album from my device instead of deleting it first from iTunes and then have it delete it?

Whatever happened to good old drag and drop, other than *STEVE* didn’t believe in it?

I am still waiting on a version of iTunes which isn’t completely unstable.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:04:40pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, I’d object to having her name on my form. And about that picture at the top; that’s scary enough to put up on Halloween. Her hubby looks like a murdering psychopath, then there’s ghoulish Tailgunner Ted to balance things out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:05:12pm

re: #143 The War TARDIS

I don’t.

Up until 1970, the Ta Namere laws were one the books. The Civil Rights of Protestants were not guaranteed in the Republic of Ireland.

Not only that, but the number of people who want to rejoin with the 26 other counties is not anywhere near a majority. More like 17-19% want to rejoin Ireland.

I really don’t want to debate this since I am still feeling like crap but I will point out that Northern Ireland discriminated against its Catholic minority for years. I also think NI is a last vestige of British imperialism. I admit I’m biased as hell on this issue though. I just will leave my opinions with this that support for 26 + 6 doesn’t mean supporting violence. Any more than supporting being part of Britain still means you support the violence committed by the Protestant paramilitaries. But in the end, it’s not up to you or I since we don’t live there so if the majority of the people do in fact want to still be with Britain, that’s their decision in the end which is the same as my opinion on the Scottish matter.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:05:24pm

re: #139 b.d.

Shown:

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Classy

It was a great burn. Trump has brought out some shit in the usual wishy washy pols. I look forward to more. GO BOBBY

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:05:47pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read both PDF’s. The Liberty Counsel attorneys are so cocksure that they’ll win when you read the second PDF it’s just amazing. Makes me want to go kick in some $ to the ACLU and Americans for Separation for Church and State.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:07:05pm

My understanding is they volunteered to represent her for free. It’s some “public interest” Christian sharia-promoting outfit affiliated with Liberty University. Every attorney has had stubborn, difficult and ridiculous clients. What you do is try to talk some sense into them and try to get them to face reality. You don’t enable their insanity unless of course, you have ulterior motives. Technically, they have an ethical obligation to represent her interests the best way they know how but, follow the money. I don’t think they are telling her the truth which is “Will you be a martyr for our vain and stupid cause which we will certainly lose in the courts but also raise a ton of cash by feeding rubes their Christian persecution fantasies, c’mon be a sport.”

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#CampaignZero  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:07:24pm

re: #142 freetoken

Jindal is probably confused as to why he’s at the bottom of the pack. He’s lashing out but I doubt that will get him off the kiddy’s table at the next “debate”.

If he speaks truths, let him continue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:08:12pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

Having to use iTunes scares the crap out of me. Sometimes when I’m trying to import music I’ve ripped from a CD, iTunes just flat out refuses to recognize it. And WTH can’t I just delete a song or album from my device instead of deleting it first from iTunes and then have it delete it?

Whatever happened to good old drag and drop, other than *STEVE* didn’t believe in it?

It is so frustrating. Anyhow what happened to me was I had an unexpected shut down of my PC and when I reloaded ITunes none of my music was there. So basically since mid February, I’ve had to re-place my music on ITunes one album at a time. I’ve used the time to add the lyrics to the songs though and get rid of unnecessary dupes. I would have just added the music from my iPod to ITunes but when I did that, all the tags were messed up so I am re-tagging everything too. Hoping to be done with this hopefully by Christmas time- it would be sooner if I were still unemployed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:08:43pm

re: #155 Timothy Watson

I am still waiting on a version of iTunes which isn’t completely unstable.

I am tired of constantly having to update the goddamn thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:09:27pm

re: #160 gocart mozart

My understanding is they volunteered to represent her for free. It’s some “public interest” Christian sharia-promoting outfit affiliated with Liberty University. Every attorney has had stubborn, difficult and ridiculous clients. What you do is try to talk some sense into them and try to get them to face reality. You don’t enable their insanity unless of course, you have ulterior motives. Technically, they have an ethical obligation to represent her interests the best way they know how but, follow the money. I don’t think they are telling her the truth which is “Will you be a martyr for our vain and stupid cause which we will certainly lose in the courts but also raise a ton of cash by feeding rubes their Christian persecution fantasies, c’mon be a sport.”

Liberty Counsel is using her for fundraising for themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:11:05pm

re: #153 The War TARDIS

I like his domestic policies. But his Foreign Policy is completely awful. He’s fallen for the Russian Line on Ukraine, when we need everyone in Europe to be in concert to eventually snap Russia’s back economically.

I did see that. That’s the Benn/Livingston wing there.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:11:25pm

re: #42 jaunte

I expect the goalposts will move Monday

John Calvin Ball

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nines09  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:12:07pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior


Sweet. Both my boys have been to Ireland with their wives. My childhood was very Irish and my mother, raised a Catholic, swore I would never endure that. I still say a thanks for that. Shantytown Mick was a loving endearment. Ya Eyerish R ya?

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:12:25pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:13:15pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I am tired of constantly having to update the goddamn thing.

After 12.2 crashed 95% of the time I tried to scroll down my playlist, I downgraded to an old version I had on my hard drive, but that version is buggy too and has a memory leak (memory usage goes up to ~2GB after a couple days).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:20:52pm

re: #167 nines09

Sweet. Both my boys have been to Ireland with their wives. My childhood was very Irish and my mother, raised a Catholic, swore I would never endure that. I still say a thanks for that. Shantytown Mick was a loving endearment. Ya Eyerish R ya?

It’s a lovely country. One of my favorite places that I’ve been to in my travels. I just feel at home since I really do feel I identify most with my Irish roots since I enjoy a good drunk heh and man do I love the Irish music. I think it’s become my way of remembering my Nana. She was of predominately Irish heritage and she was able to visit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:22:04pm

re: #169 Timothy Watson

After 12.2 crashed 95% of the time I tried to scroll down my playlist, I downgraded to an old version I had on my hard drive, but that version is buggy too and has a memory leak (memory usage goes up to ~2GB after a couple days).

I am honest to god thinking about just switching plugins when I finish this mess. The good thing ITunes does too is make the files smaller when you want to add them to your iPod so maybe what I’ll do is use Winamp or something like that for listening to the tunes but keep iTunes for uploading the music.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:24:43pm

re: #166 gocart mozart

There was a Bill Watterson reference in a recent Bloom County 2015 strip a few days back.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:29:34pm

re: #124 jaunte

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@BobbyJindal @realDonaldTrump “LOOKAT ME, I’M BOBBY JINDAL DAMNIT I CAN BE AS CRAZY AS TRUMP WHY WON’T ANYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!”

— gocartmozart(@attymix1) September 13, 2015
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Mich-again  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:30:09pm

I wonder if the Hee Haw militia will aim their rifles at Federal agents when they come to arrest Kim Davis again.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:30:58pm

re: #149 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cosmic baseball.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:35:13pm

re: #173 gocart mozart

Can others see the above tweet normally or am I the only one seeing it F*cked Up? Why does it post correct sometimes and sometimes not?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:39:24pm

re: #176 gocart mozart

Can others see the above tweet normally or am I the only one seeing it F*cked Up? Why does it post correct sometimes and sometimes not?

It’s screwed up for me, but that’s normal….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:40:18pm

re: #176 gocart mozart

Can others see the above tweet normally or am I the only one seeing it F*cked Up? Why does it post correct sometimes and sometimes not?

Now upstairs it looks OK.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 12, 2015 • 6:49:50pm

re: #72 nines09

Hell, they bombed striking workers. This is never taught in class. And hundreds of others where people who wanted to Unionize were beaten and killed. Bad unions. Evil unions. That was the price of the right to organize and strike. Fast forward to today. *spit*

It was early springtime when the strike was on,
They drove us miners out of doors,
Out from the houses that the Company owned,
We moved into tents up at old Ludlow.

I was worried bad about my children,
Soldiers guarding the railroad bridge,
Every once in a while a bullet would fly,
Kick up gravel under my feet.

We were so afraid you would kill our children,
We dug us a cave that was seven foot deep,
Carried our young ones and pregnant women
Down inside the cave to sleep.

That very night your soldiers waited,
Until all us miners were asleep,
You snuck around our little tent town,
Soaked our tents with your kerosene.

You struck a match and in the blaze that started,
You pulled the triggers of your gatling guns,
I made a run for the children but the fire wall stopped me.
Thirteen children died from your guns.

I carried my blanket to a wire fence corner,
Watched the fire till the blaze died down,
I helped some people drag their belongings,
While your bullets killed us all around.

I never will forget the look on the faces
Of the men and women that awful day,
When we stood around to preach their funerals,
And lay the corpses of the dead away.

We told the Colorado Governor to call the President,
Tell him to call off his National Guard,
But the National Guard belonged to the Governor,
So he didn’t try so very hard.

Our women from Trinidad they hauled some potatoes,
Up to Walsenburg in a little cart,
They sold their potatoes and brought some guns back,
And they put a gun in every hand.

The state soldiers jumped us in a wire fence corners,
They did not know we had these guns,
And the Red-neck Miners mowed down these troopers,
You should have seen those poor boys run.

We took some cement and walled that cave up,
Where you killed these thirteen children inside,
I said, “God bless the Mine Workers’ Union,”
And then I hung my head and cried.

Ludlow Massacre - Woody Guthrie

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jonhendry  Sep 12, 2015 • 7:17:49pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Anyone know why certain files may be in the itunes library but not in my itunes folder. This is odd. I tried consolidating but still there’s about 85 files that I have in my iTunes library that are not in my iTunes folder.

In the “advanced” tab of iTunes’ Preferences window, there’s a checkbox for “copy added items into iTunes folder”. If it isn’t checked, iTunes just keeps a note of the location of the file and plays it from there. If it is checked, iTunes copies the file into the iTunes folder so that all your media files in iTunes are together.

Under the File menu there’s a Library submenu, which offers an Organize function which will organize your media library, copying into the iTunes folder any media files which are outside of it.

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jonhendry  Sep 12, 2015 • 7:23:58pm

I’m just waiting to see if Davis tries anything with any other functions of the County Clerk’s office. They handle lots of things, including services which in Connecticut are handled by the DMV, like license plates, vehicle transfers, etc.

For example, in KY if you transfer a KY-titled car in KY, there’s a 6% usage tax that has to be paid. But there are situations that are exempt, such as a transfer between spouses.

Anyone think she’ll cause trouble if a same-sex couple tries to claim that exemption?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2015 • 8:59:41am

Another Texas High School Football Player Hits Ref

If this was Chicago, Fox “news” and am hate radio would make this an issue….and blame Obama.


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