Video: Audience Member Asks Trump: "We Have a Problem... It's Called 'Muslims.' When Can We Get Rid of 'Em?"

Video: Audience Member Asks Trump: “We Have a Problem… It’s Called ‘Muslims.’ When Can We Get Rid of ‘Em?”

Trump answers: “We’re gonna be looking at that”

PoliticsSeptember 2015 • Views: 83,539

Wow. Here’s Donald Trump at his town hall event in New Hampshire, where the following exchange took place:

Audience member: We have a problem in this country — it’s called “Muslims.” We know our current President is one.

Trump: Right.

Audience member: You know he’s not even an American. Birth certificate, man!

Trump: We need this question!

Audience member: But anyway [laughter], we have training camps growing, where they want to kill us.

Trump: Mm hmm.

Audience member: That’s my question. When can we get rid of ‘em?

Trump: We’re gonna be looking at a lot of different things. And you know, a lot of people are saying that, and a lot of people are saying that bad things are happening out there. We’re gonna be looking at that and plenty of other things.

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327 comments

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:00:09pm

Reposted from below: So this is how fascism comes to America.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 5:02:01pm

mexicans
muslims

who is next on this list?

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:02:10pm

Fuck me. That’s actually WORSE than the tweets made it sound. He agrees with/encourages each section of the rambling question, before telling him, “We’re looking into it”.

lawhawk Sep 17, 2015 • 5:02:11pm

.@realDonaldTrump is letting his inner xenophobic nativist freak flag fly. Giving aid and comfort to racists and bigots across the land

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 18, 2015

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:03:00pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

Reposted from below: So this is how fascism comes to America.

Reposted from below:
“History doesn’t repeat itself. But it rhymes.”
— Mark Twain

goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 5:03:33pm

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:03:51pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuck me. That’s actually WORSE than the tweets made it sound. He agrees with/encourages each section of the rambling question, before telling him, “We’re looking into it”.

And it’s not like Trump is slow on his feet in situations like this. I’m sure he could have found a way to shut this down without ticking off the audience too much.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:03:53pm

re: #2 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mexicans
muslims

who is next on this list?

Ask who is first on the list? Probably a group of people whose extinction would be viewed favorably or with a “Meh.” by the majority.

Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:04:17pm

I can already see how Trump will dodge out of this one. He’ll say he meant “we’re gonna be looking into” getting rid of training camps.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:06:07pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Mein Drumpf.

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:06:52pm

re: #8 Teukka

Ask who is first on the list? Probably a group of people whose extinction would be viewed favorably or with a “Meh.” by the majority.

Non-straight people were at the top of that list until recently. The GOP is still trying to find the next scapegoat.

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:07:25pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

Non-straight people were at the top of that list until recently. The GOP is still trying to find the next scapegoat.

Gay Mexican Muslims?

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:08:03pm

re: #12 freetoken

Gay Mexican Muslims?

Akbar and ~~Jeff~~ Jefe.

TedStriker Sep 17, 2015 • 5:08:39pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

Reposted from below: So this is how fascism comes to America.

Also, to quote Padme from Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith:

“So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause.”

A little melodramatic at this point? Perhaps, but when stuff like this is said at a town hall meeting with Donald Trump, the leading GOP presidential candidate, and not only does Trump not publicly repudiate it on-the-spot, but nods and affirms in agreement? It’s beyond fucked up.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:10:43pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

Non-straight people were at the top of that list until recently. The GOP is still trying to find the next scapegoat.

I think they might already have. Look at what group they very often try to associate with gays…

Varek Raith Sep 17, 2015 • 5:11:36pm

WTF.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 5:13:00pm

i get very sketchy phase shifted sound out of that video

DobermanBoston Sep 17, 2015 • 5:13:17pm

re: #2 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mexicans
muslims

who is next on this list?

Trump supporter Ann Coulter seems to have had some suggestions last night.

Mike R Sep 17, 2015 • 5:13:42pm

Does anybody else remember when it wasn’t cool to be a low class idiot and people sometimes kept their pie holes shut. If that question and response don’t prove the truth of the old saying, better to not speak and be thought a fool, than speak and remove all doubt, a better example would be hard to find.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:14:14pm

“The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored because it cannot survive their being repeated”
— Justice Robert Jackson, Opening address for the United States prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials.
Never. Fucking. Again.

Skip Intro Sep 17, 2015 • 5:15:22pm

I guess Trump felt he needed to get the base back on board in case they had started leaning towards Fiorina.

This can only get uglier from here, and the base can only get more unhinged.

CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:16:03pm

Trump,

I take it you will also be looking into how you can get rid of the first amendment, since you won’t be able to get rid of the Muslims without violating it?

goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 5:16:22pm

There is now an official Trump corollary to Godwin’s Law.

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:16:34pm

re: #16 Varek Raith

WTF.

Trump is drawing all the loons unto himself. He’s got the birther and anti-vaxxer vote locked up. Now he’s after Cruz’s and Huckabee’s anti-Muslim voters.

CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:17:27pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

There is now an official Trump corollary to Godwin’s Law.

Sooner or later if a candidate is stupid enough, he’ll start to sound like Hitler!

Skip Intro Sep 17, 2015 • 5:17:40pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

Godwin’s Law does not apply to Donald Trump. He is exactly what he appears to be, and the GOP base loves him for it.

Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:18:00pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

Mein Drumpf.

Wrong side of the Alps:

Benzino Napoloni

goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 5:18:02pm

Anderson Cooper is seriously pissed off. He’s pulling the skin off of Trump Productions former President Andy Dean, slowly.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:18:21pm

re: #24 freetoken

Trump is drawing all the loons unto himself. He’s got the birther and anti-vaxxer vote locked up. Now he’s after Cruz’s and Huckabee’s anti-Muslim voters.

How long before the loons reach critical mass and we have stochastic (terrorism) effects?
*begins to inventory PPE*

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:19:05pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I can already see how Trump will dodge out of this one. He’ll say he meant “we’re gonna be looking into” getting rid of training camps.

[trump] “we’re going to be looking into that” is my standard dismissive response, that I have used for years, to idiots. Anyone who says differently is a liar, willfully mistorting my words and should drop out [/trump]

That’s my guess as to his response.

Skip Intro Sep 17, 2015 • 5:20:12pm

Seen on Facebook.

What did we learn from last night’s GOP debate:

1. Do not operate heavy machinery while listening to Dr. Ben Carson’s voice.
2. Do not mess with Carly Fiorina. She will cut you.
3. Jeb Bush’s version of “more energy” is most people’s version of “comatose.”
4. You can totally make shit up about Planned Parenthood and no one will stop you.
5. Most of these dudes can’t name a single famous American woman. Which is scary as hell.
6. Jeb Bush thinks his brother kept America safe. Who’s going to tell him?
7. This Ronald Reagan guy should run. He sounds way more awesome than any of these asshats.

Joe Bacon Sep 17, 2015 • 5:20:37pm

The whole world now sees the Republican Party for what it really is!

This is the Republican Base.

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:20:42pm

re: #30 b.d.

Hmm… a Trump tag. I suggest and orange color and a German script.

Bubblehead II Sep 17, 2015 • 5:21:49pm

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:22:06pm

re: #33 freetoken

Hmm… a Trump tag. I suggest and orange color and a German script.

http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:22:21pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon

The whole world now sees the Republican Party for what it really is!

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You know, at one time it wasn’t. Some snarky wingnut will point out that the people in that picture were likely Democratic Party members. And they likely were.

What said wingnuts will always leave out: And then… something happened.

stpaulbear Sep 17, 2015 • 5:22:38pm

So when someone asks a question like that do the owners of FOX News all give each other high-fives?

Is Trump’s not telling the guy he’s wrong any different than CNN not calling anyone on their lies last night?

The passivity with which we’re accepting all of this moronic discourse is getting scary.

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:22:51pm

re: #35 Teukka

http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/

and make it youuuuuuge!

stpaulbear Sep 17, 2015 • 5:23:46pm

re: #24 freetoken

Trump is drawing all the loons unto himself. He’s got the birther and anti-vaxxer vote locked up. Now he’s after Cruz’s and Huckabee’s anti-Muslim voters.

And hopefully he leads them all over a cliff.

The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:23:51pm

people seem surprised that the guy who is promising to deport 11 million noncitizens would also want to look into eliminating some Muslims

— Tim Dickinson (@7im) September 18, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 5:25:38pm

Trump was in “birther” mode laughing with a fan who said Obama was a Muslim, not an American. Could have been McCain moment- he failed it.

— Chris Matthews (@hardball_chris) September 18, 2015

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:25:38pm

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

I’m not surprised at all. And I won’t be surprised if we have worse within a week. @7im

— Teo (@Teukka72) September 18, 2015

The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:26:01pm

‘Dilbert’ creator @ScottAdamsSays on how @realdonaldtrump is like the Founding Fathers & Jesus http://t.co/Kk2tuo9GvF pic.twitter.com/GdRnDXQl2K

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) September 14, 2015

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:26:07pm

I really hope there aren’t any of those FEMA camps that I’ve been joking about

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:26:10pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Anderson Cooper is seriously pissed off. He’s pulling the skin off of Trump Productions former President Andy Dean, slowly.

Are you describing an actual act of journalism being performed by a journalist?

I thought that didn’t happen any more, like Coke in green glass bottles.

jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:26:15pm

Trump fan pushes back

Fagot @AndersonCooper and other idiots on his program try to make a negative out of a stupid question re Muslims by #Trump.
— Bill Wickens (@BillWickens) September 18, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 5:27:51pm

Donald Trump say he will be looking into When We can get Rid of Muslims Problem

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:28:44pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Anderson Cooper is seriously pissed off. He’s pulling the skin off of Trump Productions former President Andy Dean, slowly.

First they came for the Vanderbilts….

Joe Bacon Sep 17, 2015 • 5:28:47pm

I’m just waiting to see how these ignorant teabaggers are going to react when Pope Francis arrives in the U.S.

Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:29:17pm

re: #46 jaunte

Trump fan pushes back

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If you want to be an asshole, the very minimum threshold of asshole expertise requires that you learn how to spell the freakin’ slurs.

PhillyPretzel Sep 17, 2015 • 5:30:32pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon

He is not the real Pope. He is an actor portraying the Pope.

missliberties Sep 17, 2015 • 5:30:37pm

Hey that guy has HUGE huge balls to ask such a beautiful unPC question.

We all know the Donald is against the PC.

What could Trump say? The birthers are his solid base.

Sad and dangerous.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:30:56pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon

I’m just waiting to see how these ignorant teabaggers are going to react when Pope Francis arrives in the U.S.

I’m worried. With the anti-Catholic and 9/23 rhetoric being fanned as much as it is right now, things can go very ugly…

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:31:48pm

re: #52 missliberties

Hey that guy has HUGE huge balls to ask such a beautiful unPC question.

We all know the Donald is against the PC.

What could Trump say? The birthers are his solid base.

Sad and dangerous.

THAT QUESTIONER WAS A DIMOCRAT PLANT!

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:31:53pm

Trump certainly is dominating the discussion:

The Donald Trump Debate Show By the Numbers

Joe Bacon Sep 17, 2015 • 5:32:41pm

re: #53 Teukka

I’m worried. With the anti-Catholic and 9/23 rhetoric being fanned as much as it is right now, things can go very ugly…

You already see right wingers calling Pope Francis a Communist.

I got a BAD feeling when he speaks before Congress a lot of Republicans will walk out on him…

Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:32:49pm

re: #53 Teukka

I’m worried. With the anti-Catholic and 9/23 rhetoric being fanned as much as it is right now, things can go very ugly…

If President Obama genuflects and kisses the pope’s ring he will go down in history as the greatest troll in all of trolldom, ever.

Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 5:33:18pm

Well I have one worry beyond the obvious here. 50ish comments about Trump, thousands of tweets, millions of clicks and all of it distraction. “Cause all this energy directed at Trump is energy that would otherwise have been used to vet the rest. Policy, prospects, things said and things done or not done.

All the rest owe him a big wet sloppy kiss for taking the heat off them.

The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:33:19pm

Dumbass

OK, Obama is NOT a Muslim. He’s a socialist atheist who fakes being Christian to full Democrat suckers. Duh. #caring

— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) September 18, 2015

Skip Intro Sep 17, 2015 • 5:33:24pm

re: #52 missliberties

Hey that guy has HUGE huge balls to ask such a beautiful unPC question.

We all know the Donald is against the PC.

What could Trump say? The birthers are his solid base.

Sad and dangerous.

It didn’t sound like anyone in the crowd thought there was anything “off” about the question/comments. That’s scary.

TedStriker Sep 17, 2015 • 5:33:31pm

re: #53 Teukka

I’m worried. With the anti-Catholic and 9/23 rhetoric being fanned as much as it is right now, things can go very ugly…

The Swiss Guard, the Secret Service, and other LEOs need to be on their A-game.

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:33:45pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon

You already see right wingers calling Pope Francis a Communist.

I got a BAD feeling when he speaks before Congress a lot of Republicans will walk out on him…

I wonder if Santorum will demand an equal time response?

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:34:04pm

re: #54 b.d.

THAT QUESTIONER WAS A DIMOCRAT PLANT!

Trump had the duty to step on this racist bug. He did not. But Trump is not the real problem.

The real problem is that this kind of hate in the GOP base has been fostered for decades by Fox News, hate radio and the Republican establishment.

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 5:34:28pm

good grief…

I’m dying at this http://t.co/5tz6fdVVN1 @PFTCommenter pic.twitter.com/FGJ1JrBdyV

— Christina (@christinadunnn) September 18, 2015

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:34:29pm

The anti-vaxxers are really pouring out for Trump too:

@Beaulah901 What’s amazing about Trump’s answer is that there are fools out there who still buy what he’s selling.
— free token (@freetoken) September 18, 2015

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:03pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon

You already see right wingers calling Pope Francis a Communist.

I got a BAD feeling when he speaks before Congress a lot of Republicans will walk out on him…

Optimist. My BAD feeling is a tad more pessimistic.

PhillyPretzel Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:18pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

I remember when John Paul II came to Philly. So many complained when Frank Rizzo bowed it was so crazy.

Joe Bacon Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:21pm

re: #62 b.d.

I wonder if Santorum will demand an equal time response?

I’m sure that FOX News will let Bill Donohoe have a platform to blast what he calls “The Communist Usurper”

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:39pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

If President Obama genuflects and kisses the pope’s ring he will go down in history as the greatest troll in all of trolldom, ever.

You or me gonna drop the prez an email >:) ?

jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:58pm

Woman tells Trump she doesn’t have a question but just wants to let him know about her visions of “everyone being loaded up into boxcars.”
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) September 17, 2015

#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 5:35:59pm

re: #58 Great White Snark

Well I have one worry beyond the obvious here. 50ish comments about Trump, thousands of tweets, millions of clicks and all of it distraction. “Cause all this energy directed at Trump is energy that would otherwise have been used to vet the rest. Policy, prospects, things said and things done or not done.

All the rest owe him a big wet sloppy kiss for taking the heat off them.

He scares the shit out of every sane person & we do not trust the American electorate. Ya, the others are sliding because of this.

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:36:34pm

The new anti-vaxxer - Birther alliance is something I would never have guessed would have been a movement in America.

Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:36:44pm

re: #61 TedStriker

The Swiss Guard, the Secret Service, the Boston PD, and the MA state police need to be on their A-game.

Only problem is that there are weapons which are very difficult to defend against…

b.d. Sep 17, 2015 • 5:37:13pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

If President Obama genuflects and kisses the pope’s ring he will go down in history as the greatest troll in all of trolldom, ever.

I think Francis & Obama have it figured out that they’ll both bow towards each other, that way they can freak the entire universe out.

jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:37:59pm

One of the biggest winners at both Republican debates is Obamacare — barely a mention of repeal last night. http://t.co/Fu4cokNqUl

— Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) September 17, 2015

Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:38:46pm

re: #74 b.d.

I think Francis & Obama have it figured out that they’ll both bow towards each other, that way they can freak the entire universe out.

If Francis does that footwashing thing, some Baptists will start drinking.

The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 5:39:08pm

re: #70 jaunte

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Boxcars are so Europe. They will load people into container trucks.
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Amory Blaine Sep 17, 2015 • 5:39:11pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Satire?

CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:39:15pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

@thedailybeast Sorry all of those people were smarter than the @realDonaldTrump which reminds me…. https://t.co/LJauHFD61B

— CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) September 18, 2015

Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:39:41pm

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Dumbass

He deleted the tweet.

EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:41:11pm

re: #58 Great White Snark

Well I have one worry beyond the obvious here. 50ish comments about Trump, thousands of tweets, millions of clicks and all of it distraction. “Cause all this energy directed at Trump is energy that would otherwise have been used to vet the rest. Policy, prospects, things said and things done or not done.

All the rest owe him a big wet sloppy kiss for taking the heat off them.

Three observations. 1) Policy based vetting as you describe doesn’t happen, with or without Trump. 2) It is difficult to imagine what possible relevance such analysis might have in an era where the primary political issue in the US is simply whether one supports GOP ignorance and malice or opposes it. 3) Trump is the front runner and it is frankly difficult to see how he loses the GOP nomination if he keeps to his formula of giving the base exactly what it wants.

CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:41:14pm

re: #54 b.d.

THAT QUESTIONER WAS A DIMOCRAT PLANT!

Yes because there are no racists in the Republican party, except for Donald Trump!

Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:41:38pm

OK, Obama is NOT a Muslim. He’s a socialist atheist who fakes being Christian to fool Democrat suckers. Duh. #caring

— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) September 18, 2015

Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:42:22pm

Good freaking grief.

What conservatives think, by a guy who knows exactly zero cons but who does knows what HRC’s semen tastes like. https://t.co/nYXBtwONLA

— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) September 18, 2015

Amory Blaine Sep 17, 2015 • 5:42:23pm

Ah he corrected his misspelling.

Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:43:47pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

He’s got a load on.

nines09 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:44:18pm

Why would what King Pimp said to that cretin surprise anyone? Hell, he’s been running on a piss on everyone platform. Punks love them a Donald. Donald is boss. Donald is a leader. Donald is a fucking fascist.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:45:35pm

re: #65 freetoken

The anti-vaxxers are really pouring out for Trump too:

CNN tries to destroy Donald Trump with vaccine autism question, but he gives this AMAZING response

Somebody’s been taking lessons in writing clickbait headlines. That’s pretty much textbook.

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 5:46:10pm

These Trump supporters have an IQ of a lawn chair.

— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) September 18, 2015

jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:47:29pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘Nazis speak Arabic’: Louisville mosque vandalized with graffiti
washingtonpost.com

Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:47:39pm

By the way, CNN quietly shut down their feature that let websites embed their video clips.

jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:48:19pm

Trump makes the bigots bolder.

piratedan Sep 17, 2015 • 5:49:21pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

and he’s STILL a better “Christian” than the entire GOP field.

missliberties Sep 17, 2015 • 5:49:22pm

re: #60 Skip Intro

It didn’t sound like anyone in the crowd thought there was anything “off” about the question/comments. That’s scary.

Actually if you look at the faces in the crowd you will see some grimaces and frowns, and one guy shaking is head going no, no, no. He is so stunned he thinks for a second and just mouths “Wow”.

Compared to the faces in his other townhalls the people looked more bored and much less enthusiastic to me anyway.

I hope a few folks in that crowd start to wake up and realize that Trump supporters are the Cliven Bundy types and the Jade Helm ‘the Obama muslim govt is coming to get us’ goons.

I express my sympathy for these mentally ill people, while at the same time recognizing that this is very dangerous. These insecure minds have fallen prey to irresponsible fear mongering driven by radio hosts, TV personalities, etc. that keep making these ridiculous suggestions for ratings and money. Awful.

If anyone has guts, and leadership, and wants to be President they should call this bullshit out. It is dangerous.

Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 5:49:49pm

Would you like to see my papers, Ilsa? @vonnahusby @RickiAdoroIV

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

A Mom Anon Sep 17, 2015 • 5:49:57pm

re: #90 jaunte
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. How many people have to get hurt before there’s a freaking backlash against this shit?

freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:50:24pm

Mullah Mohler’s SBC tries to counter the Siren call of Donald Trump:

Have Evangelicals Who Support Trump Lost Their Values?

The SBC theologians are not a very self-reflective lot, and seem to miss that their decades of training the pew warmers to accept hating “the other” is exactly what Trump is using to further his own agenda.

Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 5:50:37pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

Three observations. 1) Policy based vetting as you describe doesn’t happen, with or without Trump. 2) It is difficult to imagine what possible relevance such analysis might have in an era where the primary political issue in the US is simply whether one supports GOP ignorance and malice or opposes it. 3) Trump is the front runner and it is frankly difficult to see how he loses the GOP nomination if he keeps to his formula of giving the base exactly what it wants.

1) Your description of some part of the GOP or its base does not apply to the rest of us.
2) It matters in our vote choice.
3) I seem to recall many front runners falling over the decades

Bill and Opus for 2016! Sep 17, 2015 • 5:51:01pm

re: #70 jaunte

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Since we are speaking about a Trump rally here, I’m sure she’s fantasizing about how his regime will be rounding up all the brown, non-Christian, and gay people.

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GlutenFreeJesus Sep 17, 2015 • 5:53:18pm

“Clinton News Network”. Seriously.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 5:53:35pm

re: #2 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mexicans
muslims

who is next on this list?

I’m fairly certain it’s Americans who are identifiably Jewish. Been seeing that one coming for a long, long time.

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missliberties Sep 17, 2015 • 5:54:00pm

re: #96 A Mom Anon

It’s going to get worse before it gets better. How many people have to get hurt before there’s a freaking backlash against this shit?

Yeah and I see some folks think this is funny? No this is not funny. The line has been crossed.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:54:18pm

re: #92 jaunte

Trump makes the bigots bolder.

The RedBull of raging right-wingers.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:54:47pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

I’m fairly certain it’s Americans who are identifiably Jewish. Been seeing that one coming for a long, long time.

Hmmmm. They are winding up, telling Jews who don’t blindly support Netanyahu they aren’t good Jews….

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:55:41pm

Another Trump apologist tries to defend him, fails miserably!

@Kragar_LGF @RickiAdoroIV Lie! He is talking about ILLEGALS. Are you legally here?

— vonna husby (@vonnahusby) September 18, 2015

@vonnahusby So all Muslims are illegally here? https://t.co/iEy8w2kdcQ - @Kragar_LGF @RickiAdoroIV

— CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) September 18, 2015

Would you like to see my papers, Ilsa? @vonnahusby @RickiAdoroIV

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

“Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” @Kragar_LGF

— Teo (@Teukka72) September 17, 2015

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piratedan Sep 17, 2015 • 5:55:53pm

just as a point of parliamentary procedure, we’re STILL two months away from the Iowa straw poll and three from the NH primary, aren’t we?

so that means how many more breathless hours of Trump coverage and GOP asshattery that we have to endure before anyone actually has to cast a ballot…. cripes, it’s gonna be a long autumn….

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 5:56:13pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Just the ones who refuse to be “perfected.”

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 5:56:47pm

To be fair, I think the man was asking Trump when we can get rid of “training camps” not Muslims. But if anyone is there to ask…
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) September 18, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:57:55pm

re: #108 freetoken

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Bullshit. He identifies the problem - Muslims - and asks when we can get rid of them.

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Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 5:58:11pm

re: #108 freetoken

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Called it.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:58:23pm

re: #108 freetoken

@daveweigel Yeah except for the fact that the person who asked the question said “We have a problem, its called Muslims”

— CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) September 18, 2015

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 5:59:08pm

re: #108 freetoken

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What training camps? Is that just more cray talk?

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 5:59:08pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

And he didn’t even have to make the argument himself.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 5:59:18pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Called it.

Indeed you did!

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Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 5:59:22pm

re: #102 missliberties

Yeah and I see some folks think this is funny? No this is not funny. The line has been crossed.

This time next year Trump will be one of several Former Front Runners. His enthusiasts will still be there, learning that the Mitt impersonator is not so bad.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:00:31pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

And he didn’t even have to make the argument himself.

Yeah, and people who support him will ignore the fact that the person who asked the question, said that Muslims were the problem.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:00:43pm

Amazing how Conservatives won’t notice they got an answer when they’re too busy being smarmy asswipes @vonnahusby

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 6:00:58pm

re: #112 #CampaignZero

What training camps? Is that just more cray talk?

There are no training camps in the US. It’s right wing paranoia.

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:01:38pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

There are no training camps in the US. It’s right wing paranoia.

I presume they’re referring to terrorist training camps?

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 6:01:40pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

This time next year Trump will be one of several Former Front Runners. His enthusiasts will still be there, learning that the Mitt impersonator is not so bad.

Part of me thinks that’s probably true. The other part notes that his demise has been predicted with each overstepping of the line, and yet he’s still on top.

Since I can’t understand why anyone looks at that smarmy bloviating con man, and thinks, “Yeah, I want a President like THAT!”, I’m not sure what would make them STOP thinking it.

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b_sharp Sep 17, 2015 • 6:01:48pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

There are no training camps in the US. It’s right wing paranoia.

Only rwnj militia training camps

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:02:16pm

re: #121 b_sharp

Only rwnj militia training camps

Projection again?

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:03:31pm

Politico is trying to look all smart and everything:

Has Trump stalled?

Radio and television conversation about Trump peaked on Aug. 7, the day after the first Republican debate, with close to 11,000 mentions of his name on each medium that day, according to data through Monday provided by media monitoring firm Critical Mention. The last time Trump reached even half as many mentions on either medium was on Aug. 26, the day after he clashed dramatically with Univision anchor Jorge Ramos at a press conference in Iowa.

This is all too much like reading TMZ about DWTS voting. I suppose outlets like Politico are so eager to sell themselves as gret sources of wisdom so click, click, click, … but frankly TMZ probably does it better.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:03:51pm

I’ll need to see your credentials before I share my private information. You seem dangerously unhinged. @vonnahusby

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:04:11pm

re: #121 b_sharp

Only rwnj militia training camps

But off course we can’t admit that those good white Christian militiamen are terrorists, cause the feds might decide to take their guns! Than they’ll try to take our guns!

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:04:33pm

Oy. CNNi just aired Drumpfensteins exchange with the dude.

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Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 6:04:45pm

There are no terrorist training camps in the US, unless you count the ones run by Oath Keepers and other far right militias.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 18, 2015

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:06:01pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs But off course if we admitted that those were terrorists training camps, we might have to admit we have a gun problem!

— CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) September 18, 2015

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Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 6:06:04pm

re: #121 b_sharp

Only rwnj militia training camps

(Cached for your comfort.)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 6:06:36pm

@daveweigel like NFL training camps? MLB?

— Dan Eggen (@DanEggenWPost) September 18, 2015

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:06:42pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Right then. I’m not a New Yorker or directly affected by 9/11 in any way, but just because a handful of nasty motherfuckers hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings and killed a lot of innocent people, that doesn’t give anyone the right to run around claiming all Muslims are evil and need to be expelled from the country, and then try to cover for their slip of the mask by claiming they were talking about eliminating “terrorist training camps”. It’s all bullshit, we all know it, own up to it and then GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY. I don’t want your intolerance here, SIR.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:07:09pm

re: #124 Kragar

@Kragar_LGF @vonnahusby I suspect Kragar is really a Lamassu and his online persona is just cover.
— free token (@freetoken) September 18, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:07:10pm

Nothing says #Trump supporter like asking his critics this: https://t.co/T1KMAZQnob

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:08:06pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Or black, or brown of just with a different state of dress or speech. The order does not matter much. This guy wants to distill humanity down to guys like him. Whatever he thinks that means in his ego driven insecure brain.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 6:09:25pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmmm. They are winding up, telling Jews who don’t blindly support Netanyahu they aren’t good Jews….

I’m pretty sure that everyone here realizes that the Christian right has an ulterior motive for loving Israel/Netanyahu/the Israeli right. The open GOP tolerance of white supremacists & neo-Nazis in their ranks guarantees a strong antisemitic undercurrent.

Jews have been perceived as Other for many centuries in the West (also in other places, but only a Western power has actually tried to systematically wipe all of them from the face of the earth). I don’t think that perception of them being Other has been eliminated. It might never be, hence the extreme importance of the existence of Israel to many (most?) Jews.

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 6:10:10pm

re: #133 Kragar

My brother, Oderus, is 50 billion years old, and was assembled on a planet called Scumdogia in “Syntho Womb 5”. @vonnahusby @Kragar_LGF

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 18, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 6:11:07pm

re: #133 Kragar

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What kinda of name is “vonna husby”?
It don’t sound ‘Merican…

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 6:11:08pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

There are no training camps in the US. It’s right wing paranoia.

So there’s no real fall back here.

Well, he is the fascist candidate. No one should be surprised.

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Ace-o-aces Sep 17, 2015 • 6:11:21pm

re: #75 jaunte

You know who I feel sorry for? The Koch brothers. I mean this was supposed to be their time. They where spending one billion dollars on this campaign to finally turn America into the Ayn Randian paradise they always wanted. Then this Trump guy comes along, and suddenly people have stopped talking about the evils of poor people getting healthcare, and their chosen one, Scott Walker, is loosing ground and it’s all about Mexicans and birth certificates and Trump, Trump, Trump! Just so sad.

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:11:37pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

@DanEggenWPost LOL. Those oddly shaped balls can be deadly! - @daveweigel

— CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1) September 18, 2015

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:11:55pm

Amazing if you ask liberals if here in U.S. legally, they all of sudden get quiet.

— vonna husby (@vonnahusby) September 18, 2015

This is classic othering behavior by the way. https://t.co/48ykUgk1bI @vonnahusby

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) September 18, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 6:12:35pm

re: #140 CriticalDragon1177

Those oddly shaped balls can be deadly!

You should probably have that checked by a Urologist….

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:12:58pm

Incredibly dishonest. He literally prefaced the question by stating “We have a problem in this country — it’s called ‘Muslims.’” @daveweigel

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) September 18, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 6:13:05pm

re: #140 CriticalDragon1177

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especially the little green ones…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 6:13:47pm

Ahmed – NASA ♥ your shirt! #JourneyToMars needs inspired kids like you. Keep doing #NASATech! http://t.co/HvVH5xoYof pic.twitter.com/YOZKO8J7ky

— Intl. Space Station (@Space_Station) September 17, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:13:54pm

Why is your first assumption that criticizing Trump means someone is here illegally? @vonnahusby

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 17, 2015 • 6:14:46pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Great. Now they’re trying to deport him!
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Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 6:15:33pm

re: #146 Kragar

Go ahead and send her your Long Form.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:15:42pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

I’m fairly certain it’s Americans who are identifiably Jewish. Been seeing that one coming for a long, long time.

Ben Shapiro will be their little “Jew Detective” and will tell them who is & is not a “Real Jew”^TM

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stpaulbear Sep 17, 2015 • 6:16:13pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

I might feel sorry for the Koch brothers if their limousine suddenly burst into flames on the way to giving instructions to some politician, but then maybe I wouldn’t either.

I would hope that the driver made it out without injuries.

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:16:26pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

You know who I feel sorry for? The Koch brothers. I mean this was supposed to be their time. They where spending one billion dollars on this campaign to finally turn America into the Ayn Randian paradise they always wanted. Then this Trump guy comes along, and suddenly people have stopped talking about the evils of poor people getting healthcare, and their chosen one, Scott Walker, is loosing ground and it’s all about Mexicans and birth certificates and Trump, Trump, Trump! Just so sad.

The fatal flaw in the Koch brothers plan has now been exposed. Fox News and hate radio have created a base of millions of easily led morons without having ensured that their propaganda is the only input to the base.

It couldn’t happen to a nicer pair of moustache-twirling villains.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:16:28pm

I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Trump supports are overwhelmingly xenophobic bigots @vonnahusby

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:17:08pm

Asked for more on Muslim q answer, Trump camp sends from him: “Christians need support in this country. Their religious liberty is at stake”

— Kailani Koenig (@kailanikm) September 18, 2015

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Bubblehead II Sep 17, 2015 • 6:17:18pm

Night Lizards. After today. I need a few.

Cal Smith — Lord Knows I’m Drinkin’

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 6:17:39pm

re: #152 Kragar

xenophobic bigots

Vonna don’t like them Greeks, either.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:17:42pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

I presume they’re referring to terrorist training camps?

Or as normal people call them, mosques.

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gocart mozart Sep 17, 2015 • 6:17:44pm

re: #133 Kragar

@vonnahusby It’s spelled “Wantsa husband” by the way. What are you, some sort of Russian mail order bride? Aren’t you a bit old for that?
— gocartmozart(@attymix1) September 18, 2015

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sep 17, 2015 • 6:18:07pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

I continue to strongly recommend Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”. It was published in 1935, drawing on the ascent of Hitler (before anyone knew what that would entail) as one of many contemporary inspirations.

Hitler, Windrip, and Trump bear some similarities. The most glaring similarity is that in each case, the target audience of their message consisted primarily of numerous angry dim-bulbs with an indelible sense of entitlement.

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:18:18pm

re: #150 stpaulbear

I might feel sorry for the Koch brothers if their limousine suddenly burst into flames on the way to giving instructions to some politician, but then maybe I wouldn’t either.

I would hope that the driver made it out without injuries.

It’s impossible, but I would just like to see the Koch brothers go completely bankrupt and be obliged to live off public assistance in the state of Wisconsin.

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TedStriker Sep 17, 2015 • 6:18:38pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

There are no training camps in the US. It’s right wing paranoia.

Oh, there have been (and likely still are) “training camps”; unfortunately for Trump, his bigoted questioner, or the TPGOP, those “training camps” have tended to be for RWNJ “militias”.

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:19:04pm

He also said “We know our current President is one [a Muslim].” Trump legitimized this bigoted lie. Why are you ignoring that? @daveweigel

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) September 18, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 17, 2015 • 6:20:16pm

Trump to 9/11 Truthers: “Our advisors will investigate the claims” in conspiracy DVD series http://t.co/ojkCGQDFGK pic.twitter.com/bAvn7fd94z

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) September 18, 2015

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:20:44pm

Asked for more on Muslim q answer, Trump camp sends from him: “Christians need support in this country. Their religious liberty is at stake”

— Kailani Koenig (@kailanikm) September 18, 2015

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 6:21:45pm

re: #46 jaunte

Trump fan pushes back

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@BillWickens @andersoncooper Tideewite cleaners called: your hood and robe are ready for you to pick up for the cross burning.

— Annemarie Dickey (@Scottishlizard1) September 18, 2015

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stpaulbear Sep 17, 2015 • 6:22:02pm

re: #153 Kragar

Asked for more on Muslim q answer, Trump camp sends from him: “Christians need support in this country. Their religious liberty is at stake”

Oh, well that makes it better.
//

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 6:22:33pm

Reminder: all of the Republican candidates signed a loyalty pledge to support Trump if he wins the nomination. https://t.co/9gw8WtDgUr

— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) September 18, 2015

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:22:35pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

*slams head on desk*

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:08pm

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro will be their little “Jew Detective” and will tell them who is & is not a “Real Jew”^TM

But but but I’m one of the good ones!

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:12pm

re: #167 thedopefishlives

*slams head on desk*

*picks up phone, orders barrels of popcorn, napalm and lots of IKEA tables.*

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:22pm

Trumps campaign just literally identified the scapegoating and attacking of Muslims as something Christians need. https://t.co/KtOaBUiH3R

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) September 18, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:27pm

#Trump says he’s only going to round up Muslims because JESUS! https://t.co/GJNaujBfGh

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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lawhawk Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:31pm

re: #164 Aunty Entity Dragon

Oh he seems nice.

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:24:38pm

re: #169 Teukka

*picks up phone, orders barrels of popcorn, napalm and lots of IKEA tables.*

Yeah, you see the direction this is going.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 6:26:00pm

re: #173 thedopefishlives

Yeah, you see the direction this is going.

I wonder when the GOP financier class realized that they had lost control of the fucking tiger they have been feeding for 30 years?

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 6:26:19pm

CNN/ORC poll: 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a Muslim.
thehill.com

Trump doesn’t care who gets hurt, he’s going to nail down the support of those idiots.

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:26:26pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

..@kailanikm Christians need support like Joel Osteen needs more money or air time. its a privileged class not an oppressed one.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) September 18, 2015

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 6:26:28pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

I presume they’re referring to terrorist training camps?

Yes, the myth of the supposed network of training camps has been around for a while now, created, funded & promoted by the usual suspects in the Islamophobia industry. Here’s an LGF page I did that got promoted last year when the scaremongering was being ramped up (again): The Texas “Islamist Terror Enclave” That Wasn’t

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:26:43pm

re: #174 Aunty Entity Dragon

I wonder when the GOP financier class realized that they had lost control of the fucking tiger they have been feeding for 30 years?

Right about the time Trump’s popularity ratings spiked. I imagine they all looked at each other and let out a collective, “Oh, SHIT.”

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CriticalDragon1177 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:27:07pm

re: #142 Blind Frog Belly White

Those oddly shaped balls can be deadly!

You should probably have that checked by a Urologist….

Och, that’s gotta hurt!

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goddamnedfrank Sep 17, 2015 • 6:27:48pm

Meaning that Trump’s official spokespeople just officially conflated the practice of Christianity with bigotry & intolerance. @kailanikm

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) September 18, 2015

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:27:52pm

re: #174 Aunty Entity Dragon

I wonder when the GOP financier class realized that they had lost control of the fucking tiger they have been feeding for 30 years?

I don’t think they’ve realized it yet. Somehow or another, Trump is supposed to fail in time for an establishment GOP tool to get the nomination.

At this point, Trump cratering is looking like magical thinking.

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:29:19pm

Sniff Sniff. I smell Trump. Smells just like late 1930’s Germany at some angry hateful bigoted rallies.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:29:28pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

I think they have realized it, which is why they’ve dumped, indirectly, so much money in Jeb!’s campaign.

However, it’s too late.

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:30:56pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

I don’t think they’ve realized it yet. Somehow or another, Trump is supposed to fail in time for an establishment GOP tool to get the nomination.

At this point, Trump cratering is looking like magical thinking.

It’s a long year-and-change to Election Day. A lot of things can happen. My expectation is that Trump simply won’t be able to maintain the charade for the evangelicals and they’ll turn on him for a more religiously palatable candidate, fracturing his support base across the field.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 6:31:03pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

At least now I can stop wondering when it’s coming…

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ipsos Sep 17, 2015 • 6:31:38pm

Not gonna lie here. As a Jewish-American (sixth generation, at that), these latest developments make me as fearful as I’ve been in pretty much my entire life. I do trust the rest of our institutions to protect us from views like ones Trump and Coulter are spewing…but it’s still enough to make one worry.

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William Lewis Sep 17, 2015 • 6:32:54pm

re: #158 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I continue to strongly recommend Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”. It was published in 1935, drawing on the ascent of Hitler (before anyone knew what that would entail) as one of many contemporary inspirations.

Hitler, Windrip, and Trump bear some similarities. The most glaring similarity is that in each case, the target audience of their message consisted primarily of numerous angry dim-bulbs with an indelible sense of entitlement.

I still see more resemblance to Benito Mussolini and Eco’s “Ur-Fascism”. The swing from left to right as an access to more power is an interesting reflection of Mussolini’s swing from Socialism to Fascism. And let’s face it, Trump’s economic blather is on a par with Mussolini’s pledge to make the trains run on time - at which he never succeeded snopes.com … O_o

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Decatur Deb Sep 17, 2015 • 6:33:08pm

re: #175 jaunte

CNN/ORC poll: 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a Muslim.
thehill.com

Trump doesn’t care who gets hurt, he’s going to nail down the support of those idiots.

For every one he gains, he loses a sane Republican and two Independents.

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:33:25pm

re: #186 ipsos

Rest fully assured there are some of us who will stand with you. At the polls. At the courts and legislatures.On the street. Come what may your side of the aisle is mine.

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William Lewis Sep 17, 2015 • 6:34:03pm

re: #189 Great White Snark

Rest fully assured there are some of us who will stand with you. At the polls. At the courts and legislatures.On the street. Come what may your side of the aisle is mine.

^^This.

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:34:19pm

re: #182 Great White Snark

Sniff Sniff. I smell Trump. Smells just like late 1930’s Germany at some angry hateful bigoted rallies.

It sure does. And I put the blame 100% on the GOP establishment and on the moderate GOP enablers of this crap within the party.

These are the people who knew and know better than to invite racists to the party, or to tolerate it as a way to get easy votes from resentful bigots.

This is why I said upthread that formal policy difference between a (D) candidate and an (R) candidate in a general election are completely irrelevant for me.

The GOP is infected with fascism and the Democrats are not. Case closed.

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:34:55pm

re: #158 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I continue to strongly recommend Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”. It was published in 1935, drawing on the ascent of Hitler (before anyone knew what that would entail) as one of many contemporary inspirations.

Hitler, Windrip, and Trump bear some similarities. The most glaring similarity is that in each case, the target audience of their message consisted primarily of numerous angry dim-bulbs with an indelible sense of entitlement.

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Sep 17, 2015 • 6:35:08pm

Well, the fascist flag is flying loud and proud from Trump Force 1.

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:36:14pm

re: #187 William Lewis

I still see more resemblance to Benito Mussolini and Eco’s “Ur-Fascism”. The swing from left to right as an access to more power is an interesting reflection of Mussolini’s swing from Socialism to Fascism. And let’s face it, Trump’s economic blather is on a par with Mussolini’s pledge to make the trains run on time - at which he never succeeded snopes.com … O_o

http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:37:15pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

It sure does. And I put the blame 100% on the GOP establishment and on the moderate GOP enablers of this crap within the party.

These are the people who knew and know better than to invite racists to the party, or to tolerate it as a way to get easy votes from resentful bigots.

This is why I said upthread that formal policy difference between a (D) candidate and and (R) candidate in a general election are completely irrelevant for me.

The GOP is infected with fascism and the Democrats are not. Case closed.

Right, your points were valid as hell, my response refleced my stubborn streak. Which is really wide. Just ask the wife. :-)

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William Lewis Sep 17, 2015 • 6:37:25pm

re: #194 Teukka

http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

Yep.

Oh and this too…

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Charles Johnson Sep 17, 2015 • 6:37:47pm

What the heck? This guy says Oath Keepers are terrorist training camps. https://t.co/3Qcg2uhVJy

— Bea (@wood_bea) September 18, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 6:38:44pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

You know who I feel sorry for? The Koch brothers. I mean this was supposed to be their time. They where spending one billion dollars on this campaign to finally turn America into the Ayn Randian paradise they always wanted. Then this Trump guy comes along, and suddenly people have stopped talking about the evils of poor people getting healthcare, and their chosen one, Scott Walker, is loosing ground and it’s all about Mexicans and birth certificates and Trump, Trump, Trump! Just so sad.

Kochs bet on the wrong horse #tcot #UniteBlue #ScottWalker pic.twitter.com/RWPIHcePR2

— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) September 18, 2015

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:38:57pm

re: #184 thedopefishlives

It’s a long year-and-change to Election Day. A lot of things can happen. My expectation is that Trump simply won’t be able to maintain the charade for the evangelicals and they’ll turn on him for a more religiously palatable candidate, fracturing his support base across the field.

That is the likeliest way for Trump to fail. The obvious counter-move by Trump is to ratchet the bigotry up to levels where he picks up all the bigots, including those evangelicals whose bigotry trumps their faith. I think we’re seeing this happen in real time, and if so, it is going to get very ugly.

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Bill and Opus for 2016! Sep 17, 2015 • 6:39:24pm

re: #187 William Lewis

I still see more resemblance to Benito Mussolini and Eco’s “Ur-Fascism”. The swing from left to right as an access to more power is an interesting reflection of Mussolini’s swing from Socialism to Fascism. And let’s face it, Trump’s economic blather is on a par with Mussolini’s pledge to make the trains run on time - at which he never succeeded snopes.com … O_o

There is one huge difference between Mussolini and Trump.
Although Mussolini was indeed a fascist who ran an extremely repressive military dictatorship, he was a strong opponent of racial identity politics.

The same cannot be said about Donald Trump.

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A Cranky One Sep 17, 2015 • 6:40:41pm

OT, but I was at my son’s house doing some electrical work and had an interesting interaction with my 4 yr old granddaughter.

She said, “Grandpa, want to see a worm?” Well, who could resist such an offer? So we walked to the driveway and she pointed out the worm. Then she said “It’s dead. It’s having a bad day.”

Gave me some perspective. Compared to that worm, I guess my day wasn’t so bad after all. ;)

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 6:42:15pm

I found a single Spiny-tailed #Gecko. They also clean their eyes with their tongue. #wildoz #cuteoff pic.twitter.com/yCcOQjqmxq

— Henry Cook (@Manic_Henry) September 16, 2015

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gocart mozart Sep 17, 2015 • 6:42:32pm

Nor does she mention that she worked only briefly in that real estate office before heading off to Italy for a year with her first husband, Todd Bartlem, a Stanford classmate who’s told other reporters that in the years they were together, she had no political opinions and considered Dress for Success her bible. When reached by phone recently, Bartlem said only, “You’re wasting your time, and I don’t want you to waste mine. In the clown car that is the Republican Party, she’s the ultimate clown.” (Click.)

Found this about Carly, I know it’s a quote from an ex-husband but still. Here is the article: bloomberg.com

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:43:10pm

re: #200 Bill and Opus for 2016!

There is one huge difference between Mussolini and Trump.
Although Mussolini was indeed a fascist who ran an extremely repressive military dictatorship, he was a strong opponent of racial identity politics.

The same cannot be said about Donald Trump.

The ur-fascism article by Eco linked up-thread is really important reading. If/when fascism comes in the US, it will not be a perfect match to any previous models (e.g., Germany, Italy, Spain). However, there are important points of similarity that will match. IIRC, Eco lists 12 factors to look for in ur-fascism, and the GOP is at least 10/12.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:43:54pm

People who think the president is a Muslim are a core Republican constituency. A Republican literally cannot win the general without them.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) September 18, 2015

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ipsos Sep 17, 2015 • 6:44:35pm

re: #189 Great White Snark

Rest fully assured there are some of us who will stand with you. At the polls. At the courts and legislatures.On the street. Come what may your side of the aisle is mine.

^^This^^ is the American exceptionalism in which I firmly believe. (And Canadian, too.)

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William Lewis Sep 17, 2015 • 6:44:46pm

re: #200 Bill and Opus for 2016!

There is one huge difference between Mussolini and Trump.
Although Mussolini was indeed a fascist who ran an extremely repressive military dictatorship, he was a strong opponent of racial identity politics.

The same cannot be said about Donald Trump.

Look at the Italian policies in Africa before giving him that big of a pass on racism. Libya and Ethiopia say that he may not have been as bad as his buddy up north but he wasn’t exactly little brown brother’s best-est friend either.

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Sherlock Hound Sep 17, 2015 • 6:45:15pm

re: #158 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Sarah Palin is the female Buzz Windrip. In the novel, Windrip is just a front-man for the true wirepullers in the background.

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 6:48:06pm

re: #200 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Mussolini did exclude Jews from the civil service, the army, and some businesses, and ended up sending Italian Jews to German concentration camps, but like Trump he probably wasn’t sincerely committed.

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Jenner7 Sep 17, 2015 • 6:50:45pm

You could hear the hate in that man with the question. Sickening.

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 6:50:55pm

re: #206 ipsos

Um, well thanks very much.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:50:58pm

Oh yes, Trump supporter:

@Gabbeaster17 There are lots of hateful bigots in the room: http://t.co/G2bTY48RXg

— free token (@freetoken) September 18, 2015

@freetoken @Gabbeaster17 awww butthurt, goat lovers? Islam will be destroyed.
— ConservOKie (@Sal_T_Cracka) September 18, 2015

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 6:51:47pm

My roommates are busy screaming at the TV, a sportsball game or some such shit. I’m holed up in my room with headphones on, listening to heavy metal music.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 17, 2015 • 6:52:52pm

Well, I got totally bogged down reading the debate threads and have just now caught up. Thanks to everybody who can tolerate watching this crap to report back to those of us feeling too fragile to do it.

So, this is where we are. The nutjob base is in a right swivet about Planned Parenthood, Mexicans, Muslims, etc. If this was September 17, 2016, I’d still say they’re peaking a little early. They’re going to have to keep their insane base on the boil like this for 418 more days. Can it be done?

Well, sure it can be done—it has been being done essentially since Bill Clinton won the election in 1992. But we’ve reached such a frenzy of insane hatred among the right wing—and more importantly, they’ve been given specific targets to go after. They have to be kept in the same state of rage until the election—and I can’t see that happening without a real bloodbath.

Mass assaults on Immigrants, Muslims (or people who dress funny, like Sikhs), health care facilities, medical research labs—I think these things are inevitable. There will be multiple atrocities committed by the army of nuts that the right wing is appealing to—you can take that to the bank. I wish I didn’t think so, but I can’t see any way around it.

My only hope is that there will be a severe backlash, like after the Oklahoma City bombing, only more so. We’ve had 20 more years to see what their tactics are like, and more people are aware of them. Some perpetrators may roll over on some of the biggest instigators, too.

Hopefully, the disaster that this election campaign will be will wake the “silent majority” of simply apathetic but basically good people to what happens when you let right-wingers run amuck. Or, one of these idiots will be elected and life as we know it will be over. I go back and forth on the probabilities.

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:53:03pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

My roommates are busy screaming at the TV, a sportsball game or some such shit. I’m holed up in my room with headphones on, listening to heavy metal music.

I was watching a local sporting event, but it turned ugly, so I turned on my Star Trek marathon instead. Letting my geek flag fly tonight.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:53:35pm

Donald has tapped into the heart of the GOP base, I see:

@freetoken @CNNPolitics the “bigot base?” meaning the people with enough common sense to see Islamic invasion a mile away? THAT bigot base?
— CallingOut Community (@calling1out) September 18, 2015

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 6:55:02pm

Fundamentally, is there any difference between politics and WWE?

— Prof Jeff Jarvis (@ProfJeffJarvis) September 18, 2015

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 6:55:14pm

re: #216 freetoken

Ooh, the Islamic Invasion is just a mile away from Surrey BC.

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 6:55:25pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

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WWE is fake.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 6:55:38pm

re: #209 jaunte

Mussolini did exclude Jews from the civil service, the army, and some businesses, and ended up sending Italian Jews to German concentration camps, but like Trump he probably wasn’t sincerely committed.

only because eventually he gave into pressure from hitler in the mid or late 30s

when he was the leader of the fascist movement in the 20s he declared the theory of biological superiority to be ridiculous

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 6:55:53pm

re: #216 freetoken

Of course your question there is a bit rhetorical. Trump is hawking himself to the bigot base of the GOP because that is his only plausible path to the nomination.

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:57:30pm

@freetoken @CNNPolitics the “bigot base?” meaning the people with enough common sense to see Islamic invasion a mile away? THAT bigot base?
— CallingOut Community (@calling1out) September 18, 2015

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 6:57:56pm

@ProfJeffJarvis Well, @WWE puts little people in luchador costumes.
— free token (@freetoken) September 18, 2015

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Unabogie Sep 17, 2015 • 6:58:05pm

Continuing with this person…

@vjeannek @random__name @Kragar_LGF And it doesn’t make you wonder why you were told otherwise? Doesn’t being lied to make you mad?

— Unabogie (@Unabogie) September 18, 2015

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 6:59:24pm

re: #216 freetoken

Donald has tapped into the heart of the GOP base, I see:

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Up until about 4-6 weeks ago I kept an annotated list of people I had blocked (preemptively or because they tried to troll me), but I’ve given up now. There are too many.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:00:29pm

@Sal_T_Cracka @freetoken @Gabbeaster17 always nice to see genuine fascists grazing in their natural habitat & willing to be photographed.

— Annemarie Dickey (@Scottishlizard1) September 18, 2015

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 7:01:16pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Van Jones was pilloried for waaaaaaaaay less.

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:02:07pm

re: #220 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

only because eventually he gave into pressure from hitler in the mid or late 30s

when he was the leader of the fascist movement in the 20s he declared the theory of biological superiority to be ridiculous

I think what was specifically regarded as ridiculous by Italian fascists was the Nazi Nordicism (i.e., blond, blue-eyed master race crap). That left lots of room for other kinds of racism, such as whites being better than blacks.

en.wikipedia.org

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:02:54pm

re: #224 Unabogie

Continuing with this person…

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I was wondering why I only see her tweets here & not on Twitter, then I realized I blocked her a long time ago. Duh.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:03:41pm

@calling1out @freetoken @CNNPolitics ZOMG TEH MOOOOOSLIMS R COMING TO RAPE YER WIMMINZ AND TEACH YER SONZ TO WEAR FUNNY ROBES!!!!!!!!!

— Annemarie Dickey (@Scottishlizard1) September 18, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:03:53pm

*Please share* My daughter’s friend is Missing…. pic.twitter.com/E0h8MF0LuU

— FetusPenisSlayer (@LovelynCoacoa) September 17, 2015

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William Lewis Sep 17, 2015 • 7:03:54pm

re: #226 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Photographed? I thought that was called “target acquisition reconnaissance” … <whistles innocently>

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:05:08pm

re: #230 Aunty Entity Dragon

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The wingnuts are already teaching their kids to wear funny robes

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 7:05:26pm

re: #226 Aunty Entity Dragon

Goat lovers? That’s what they’re going with?

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:06:08pm

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts are already teaching their kids to wear funny robes

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I already made that joke half an hour ago. Gotta keep it mixed up…

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freetoken Sep 17, 2015 • 7:08:09pm

re: #234 thedopefishlives

And then they accuse me of bringing out the name-calling.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:08:12pm

re: #231 Kragar

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I don’t know if someone with the screen name “FetusPenisSlayer” isn’t just trying to grift money.

The Internet has made me suspicious of these kind of appeals that ask for money.

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:08:24pm

re: #228 EPR-radar

From the wikipedia article, this is just too funny:

Italian Fascism strongly rejected the common Nordicist conception of the Aryan Race that idealized “pure” Aryans as having certain physical traits that were defined as Nordic such as blond hair and blue eyes.[54] Nordicism was divisive because Italians - and especially southern Italians had faced discrimination from Nordicist proponents in countries like the United States out of the view that non-Nordic southern Europeans were inferior to Nordics …

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 7:08:39pm

re: #236 freetoken

And then they accuse me of bringing out the name-calling.

Yeah, because Muslims aren’t human and so they’re not name-calling.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:09:22pm

God sent me a Muslim shuttle driver so we could pull over and both make our prayers on time. Jew and Muslim together.

— Lee Weissman (@JihadiJew) September 18, 2015

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:09:57pm

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know if someone with the screen name “FetusPenisSlayer” isn’t just trying to grift money.

The Internet has made me suspicious of these kind of appeals that ask for money.

I still can’t get over the apparently rational person having “Sir Thundertwat” as a screen name on twitter.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:10:26pm

@Sal_T_Cracka I know you have sexual intercourse with ruminants, since you have never denounced it.

— Annemarie Dickey (@Scottishlizard1) September 18, 2015

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thedopefishlives Sep 17, 2015 • 7:11:10pm

re: #242 Aunty Entity Dragon

And, of course, Obama has stated explicitly several times that he is a Christian. Not that that stops them from derping on about it.

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Shiplord Kirel Sep 17, 2015 • 7:12:22pm

re: #186 ipsos

Not gonna lie here. As a Jewish-American (sixth generation, at that), these latest developments make me as fearful as I’ve been in pretty much my entire life. I do trust the rest of our institutions to protect us from views like ones Trump and Coulter are spewing…but it’s still enough to make one worry.

I think the worst case scenario is a widely scattered but intense outburst of violence and insurrection from RWNJ militias and, much more significantly, ad hoc right wing vigilantes. The latter are not formal militias with rolls, rank, etc. but neither are they completely unorganized. They know each other from social media, gun stores, shooting ranges, and some churches. Insurrection is one of their favorite subjects when they get together.
This is most likely to happen in response to some traumatic event; a shootout with the Feds that leaves a large number of militia dead, a major assassination, or, most regrettably, an act of terrorism by some misguided fool like the one who tried to shoot up the Family Research Council office in DC in 2012.

If half the known extremist militias take part, and if they can attract 20 violent RWNJ vigilantes for each formal militia member, we could be talking about 50,000 or more committed insurrectionists, that is, the ones who will shoot. Millions of RWNJs will cheer from the sidelines or participate in ways short of using their numerous weapons, but most have too much to lose to stay with it once law enforcement can organize a response and troops begin to arrive.

A rough prediction of the outcome, based on this level of participation:

6-7000 fatalities (90% targeted groups, 8-9% RWNJs, 1-2% law enforcement, small number of military). Insurrectionists may also target emergency and medical personnel. educators, religious “heretics” like gay-friendly churches, media personnel, and anyone else perceived as sympathetic to the targeted “others.”

50,000 injuries

500,000 arrests, with 10-12000 getting hard prison time and up to 100 the death penalty.

Property damage, probably worse than 9-11.

It wouldn’t be the civil war coveted by right-wing fanatics, but it would be a national tauma of historic dimensions, with recriminations going on for centuries.

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 7:12:30pm

Speaking of good news…*ahem* I’ll just leave this here. #mammalwatching #makira15 pic.twitter.com/SZ2WwkCFIN

— Asia Murphy (@am_anatiala) September 17, 2015

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:12:35pm

re: #243 thedopefishlives

And, of course, Obama has stated explicitly several times that he is a Christian. Not that that stops them from derping on about it.

The anti-Christ in the White House is a liar!!!

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Mattand Sep 17, 2015 • 7:13:23pm

Lt. Dangle was unavailable for comment. http://t.co/7i7IPGOssW via @phillydotcom

— mattand (@mattand) September 18, 2015

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KGxvi Sep 17, 2015 • 7:13:52pm

I’ve got a handful of friends from law school, who happen to be Muslim, that currently work as assistant district attorneys here in Southern California. I would say that I wonder how some of these xenophobic assholes would respond to that fact, but I’m pretty sure I know what they’d say and it pisses me off. That this is what a critical mass of the American public has become, openly, I’m just at a loss…

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:16:08pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel

I think the worst case scenario is a widely scattered but intense outburst of violence and insurrection from RWNJ militias and, much more significantly, ad hoc right wing vigilantes. The latter are not formal militias with rolls, rank, etc. but neither are they completely unorganized. They know each other from social media, gun stores, shooting ranges, and some churches. Insurrection is one of their favorite subjects when they get together.
This is most likely to happen in response to some traumatic event; a shootout with the Feds that leaves a large number of militia dead, a major assassination, or, most regrettably, an act of terrorism by some misguided fool like the one who tried to shoot up the Family Research Council office in DC in 2012.

If half the known extremist militias take part, and if they can attract 20 violent RWNJ vigilantes for each formal militia member, we could be talking about 50,000 or more committed insurrectionists, that is, the ones who will shoot. Millions of RWNJs will cheer from the sidelines or participate in ways short of using their numerous weapons, but most have too much to lose to stay with it once law enforcement can organize a response and troops begin to arrive.

A rough prediction of the outcome, based on this level of participation:

6-7000 fatalities (90% targeted groups, 8-9% RWNJs, 1-2% law enforcement, small number of military). Insurrectionists may also target emergency and medical personnel. educators, religious “heretics” like gay-friendly churches, media personnel, and anyone else perceived as sympathetic to the targeted “others.”

50,000 injuries

500,000 arrests, with 10-12000 getting hard prison time and up to 100 the death penalty.

Property damage, probably worse than 9-11.

It wouldn’t be the civil war coveted by right-wing fanatics, but it would be a national tauma of historic dimensions, with recriminations going on for centuries.

What do you think would be a trigger? An assassination (attempt) at the Pope and/or Obama? Major domestic terrorist attack? That’s what worries me at this point considering the 9/23 hype in Outer Wingnuttia as we speak :(

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:16:24pm

This is the Tea Party lady who was forced to resign after having an affair with another wingnuts & then using taxpayer money to cover it up.
The Michigan Kim Davis.

World of Bizarro: Gamrat Runs for Her Vacant Seat http://t.co/2tA8ncPi7l #detroit pic.twitter.com/ZvCs5Z1KfI

— Detroit News Now (@detroitnewsnow) September 18, 2015

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:16:30pm

re: #248 KGxvi

That this is what a critical mass of the American public has become, openly, I’m just at a loss…

They were always there. We’re seeing what has been behind closed doors for ages. I don’t know if it’s better or worse, but I don’t think there’s much difference. The insecurity and rage these people have has been hurting this country since it began.

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 7:16:34pm

re: #243 thedopefishlives

And, of course, Obama has stated explicitly several times that he is a Christian. Not that that stops them from derping on about it.

He’s the most famous Muslim the GOP tried to frame with a contrived pastor scandal.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:18:03pm

PREACH IT FRANKIE!

POPE FRANCIS : THE #BERNIESANDERS OF THE VATICAN #PopeFrancis #UniteBlue #Taxes #atheist 🇩 pic.twitter.com/hrUfpSoW4w

— Jimmy Bear (@JimmyBear2) September 18, 2015

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Shiplord Kirel Sep 17, 2015 • 7:19:03pm

re: #249 Teukka

What do you think would be a trigger? An assassination (attempt) at the Pope and/or Obama? Major domestic terrorist attack? That’s what worries me at this point considering the 9/23 hype in Outer Wingnuttia as we speak :(

I think another Bundy Ranch, but with a different outcome, is the most likely trigger. With the superheated atmosphere of paranoia and misinformation in the wingnut world, though, it could be almost anything.

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:19:14pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

PREACH IT FRANKIE!

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“The Bernie Sanders of the Vatican”? Really?

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:20:00pm

@Sal_T_Cracka @random__name You really seem obsessed with bovidae mammals. I heard some guys like em nudge nudge! You didn’t denounce it…

— Annemarie Dickey (@Scottishlizard1) September 18, 2015

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KGxvi Sep 17, 2015 • 7:20:47pm

re: #251 Belafon

I know there’s always been crazy… it’s the “openly” part that bothers me, because it is being taken seriously. that’s what leaves me at a loss. I mean, even McCain was willing to straighten out someone claiming Obama was Muslim (as if it should matter, anyway) at a rally. Now, we’re getting this?

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:20:49pm

When will someone in the MSM do their job and ask Donald Trump what his final solution will be for all of the logistical issues his hare-brained proposals would cause.

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 7:21:06pm

Here’s how @realDonaldTrump responded the 2nd time “Muslim training camps” were brought up at his event tonight. http://t.co/gDqCTPMLTp

— The Last Word (@TheLastWord) September 18, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 17, 2015 • 7:21:35pm

re: #255 Belafon

“The Bernie Sanders of the Vatican”? Really?

The Vatican has a whole bunch of money, I would like to see Pope Francis do some serious wealth redistribution.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 17, 2015 • 7:22:25pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

I don’t think they’ve realized it yet. Somehow or another, Trump is supposed to fail in time for an establishment GOP tool to get the nomination.

At this point, Trump cratering is looking like magical thinking.

I admit that I thought this questioner might have been a plant. Your thought makes me wonder if the Koch crowd would plant a guy like this to try and bait Trump into saying something really outrageous that would bring him “down”. What they didn’t count on was the sincerity of the Base’s hate.

“Mister Trump, when are we gonna get back to hangin’ black folk?”
“I’m glad you asked that uh… *looks at nametag* Cletus! That’s PHASE TWO of Make America Great Again!”
*crowd applauds*
*Watching the TV, Koch spills his bourbon, slaps forehead*

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KGxvi Sep 17, 2015 • 7:23:24pm

re: #259 jaunte

I wish O’Donnell would have shown Goertz the clip of McCain in 2008… because THAT’S NOT HOW A PERSON WHO WANTS TO BE THE GOD DAMNED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES RESPONDS TO SHIT LIKE THAT!

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Unabogie Sep 17, 2015 • 7:27:12pm

re: #117 Kragar

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@Kragar_LGF @vonnahusby Why would anyone play your deranged game? Are YOU here legally? You look French!!!

— Unabogie (@Unabogie) September 18, 2015

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:27:21pm

re: #262 KGxvi

I wish O’Donnell would have shown Goertz the clip of McCain in 2008… because THAT’S NOT HOW A PERSON WHO WANTS TO BE THE GOD DAMNED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES RESPONDS TO SHIT LIKE THAT!

This moment of decency from McCain is scored as a betrayal by the GOP base.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 17, 2015 • 7:28:49pm

re: #249 Teukka

What do you think would be a trigger? An assassination (attempt) at the Pope and/or Obama? Major domestic terrorist attack? That’s what worries me at this point considering the 9/23 hype in Outer Wingnuttia as we speak :(

Looking further afield - Hillary winning the election, for sure. I think more than a few Republicans would talk of secession. Posses and groups would form and try to provoke a confrontation. The psychological groundwork for this stuff was laid down during the first Clinton administration, so a second one would trigger these people like a reflex.

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jaunte Sep 17, 2015 • 7:29:09pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

This moment of decency from McCain is scored as a betrayal by the GOP base.

And saying “He’s not a Muslim, he’s a decent family man” was a bit off.

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Ace-o-aces Sep 17, 2015 • 7:32:01pm

re: #259 jaunte

Notice the little smirk Trumps Iowa spokesperson gives at the end of that video. She’s like “wow, even I can’t believe how much BS I’m pushing!”

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:33:15pm

Oops.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 7:35:24pm

re: #262 KGxvi

I wish O’Donnell would have shown Goertz the clip of McCain in 2008… because THAT’S NOT HOW A PERSON WHO WANTS TO BE THE GOD DAMNED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES RESPONDS TO SHIT LIKE THAT!

That’s the thing, isn’t it? As long as GOP party leaders were willing to push back against the open bigotry & racism it was possible to keep it under control, but now you have leaders validating the bad crazy by failing to push back—hell, they’re even willing to encourage it if it’ll keep them up in the polls.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 7:37:37pm

re: #266 jaunte

And saying “He’s not a Muslim, he’s a decent family man” was a bit off.

Heh, yeah, I remember that. It was as if one cannot be both (but I think Arab was mentioned in addition to “Muslin”). *smh*

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EPR-radar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:38:07pm

re: #267 Ace-o-aces

Notice the little smirk Trumps Iowa spokesperson gives at the end of that video. She’s like “wow, even I can’t believe how much BS I’m pushing!”

Well just yesterday a large scale physics experiment was conducted in Simi Valley. Massive bullshitrons were accelerated to nearly the speed of light in a colliding talking-point geometry. The resulting enstupidation rays have led to elevated bozon activity across the entire United States. In some cases the resulting derp reactions have led to the formation of bigotrons and other forms of exotic stupid matter.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:39:47pm

re: #268 Aunty Entity Dragon

Okay, that was annoying. I sent that at the wrong person.

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 7:40:26pm

Liberal bubble satire promotes racism cuz it underestimates US racism. 43% believe Obama is Muslim - but not then pic.twitter.com/MCLfG4ggBj

— ChuckModi (@ChuckModi1) September 18, 2015

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 7:41:12pm

re: #270 CuriousLurker

Ya, back in the day they said Arab. Then they learned the word Muslim.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 7:43:18pm

sample freeper reaction:

“Trump just did himself more good with what he said there than anything he has done so far”

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 7:43:50pm

re: #274 #CampaignZero

Ya, back in the day they said Arab. Then they learned the word Muslim.

Right. And every once in awhile they can spew their garbage and actually spell it about right at the same time. Those rare lucid sober moments.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 7:44:26pm

re: #273 #CampaignZero

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LOL! Oh man, I’d forgotten all about the “terrorist fist bump.”

Gawd… the stupid, it burns…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 7:45:22pm

re: #274 #CampaignZero

Ya, back in the day they said Arab. Then they learned the word Muslim.

when the afghan war was first going on i had to break the news to someone that afghans werent arabs

shock!

“so what the hell are they then???”

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 7:46:59pm

Most Americans live in a bubble of idiotic privilege. To our peril.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:47:04pm

re: #272 Aunty Entity Dragon

Okay, that was annoying. I sent that at the wrong person.

Fix’d. Wacko gal got the Pink Floyd message.

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CuriousLurker Sep 17, 2015 • 7:47:32pm

re: #275 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

sample freeper reaction:

“Trump just did himself more good with what he said there than anything he has done so far”

I’m sure Geller & the other bigots are writhing in the ecstasy of the hategasms that Trump’s validation undoubtedly brought on.

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:48:08pm

re: #146 Kragar

Vonna doesn’t sound very American. She could be from anywhere.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:49:56pm

re: #282 Belafon

Vonna doesn’t sound very American. She could be from anywhere.

Yeah, when she made that crack, the first thing I thought of was Pink in The Wall yelling

That one doesn’t look quite right!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 7:50:01pm

re: #281 CuriousLurker

I’m sure Geller & the other bigots are writhing in the ecstasy of the hategasms that Trump’s validation undoubtedly brought on.

i expect trump’s poll numbers to go up as he brings in all the nazis who were worried that he was too much of a liberal

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The War TARDIS Sep 17, 2015 • 7:51:42pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel

At that point, I would probably want Canada’s intervention.

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 7:53:50pm

re: #281 CuriousLurker

I’m sure Geller & the other bigots are writhing in the ecstasy of the hategasms that Trump’s validation undoubtedly brought on.

Yes. But lets not forget this. They live in hate. Among the hateful. The rest of us live in family, friends and simple human love. We sleep while they obsess and self medicate. Natural justice.

Added Edit -That’s what makes them dangerous btw. We can go home and find calm. They can not.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:55:04pm

Bristol Palin: Obama reaching out to Ahmed Mohamed ‘encourages racial strife’ like #BLM http://t.co/DqghSdsps5

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 7:56:58pm

re: #287 Kragar

Not to mention unwed pregnancies.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 7:58:02pm

Which is why Obama won 2 terms, while the GOP has done nothing but obstruct for 8 years @vonnahusby @LethalDose_50 @RickiAdoroIV

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 8:02:37pm

the funniest thing about all of this is that the moron lobby really believes that trump will be the one that really really truly fer sure does all the things the old gop never did for them and theyll live happily happily ever after

and there’s not much that’s funny about it

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 8:02:51pm

re: #287 Kragar

She came out against Planned Parenthood too.

hur hur

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Interesting Times Sep 17, 2015 • 8:06:47pm

I’ve been in lurk mode today…because really, all I can say is, we’ve finally found an audience who makes Crazy McCain Lady look reasonable and quaint in comparison o_O

Woman calls Obama an Arab at Rally - McCain condems talk (@TraderNewburgh)

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 8:06:58pm

re: #290 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

When he fires the southern states for lack of output, they’re really going to be surprised.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 8:07:00pm

Tired, and the trolls seem to be hiding for now. Have an interview tomorrow with the school district.

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 8:08:12pm

re: #294 Aunty Entity Dragon

Tired, and the trolls seem to be hiding for now. Have an interview tomorrow with the school district.

Go rest hard.

Good luck.

This shit aint worth it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 17, 2015 • 8:08:18pm

re: #293 Belafon

When he fires the southern states for lack of output, they’re really going to be surprised.

heh

seriously, if trump doesnt win and a democrat does, im pretty sure there will be a movement for secession

THIS TIME LET EM GO!!!

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Aunty Entity Dragon Sep 17, 2015 • 8:08:44pm

re: #295 #CampaignZero

Go rest hard.

Good luck.

This shit aint worth it.

Thanks :)

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Romantic Heretic Sep 17, 2015 • 8:08:59pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon

You already see right wingers calling Pope Francis a Communist.

I got a BAD feeling when he speaks before Congress a lot of Republicans will walk out on him…

re: #66 Teukka

Optimist. My BAD feeling is a tad more pessimistic.

I wonder, do the Capitol police wand the Representatives and Senators before entering their chambers?

If not, I think they should start.

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 8:09:38pm

re: #298 Romantic Heretic

I wonder, do the Capitol police wand the Representatives and Senators before entering their chambers?

If not, I think they should start.

You read my mind.

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ipsos Sep 17, 2015 • 8:09:58pm

Trump does business in the Middle East, doesn’t he?

At what point do his business partners in the Gulf lean on him to tamp down the anti-Muslim sentiment among his supporters?

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 8:11:06pm

Ya’ll my neighbor just walked by & called my new patio retreat a Lizard Lounge.

If he knew! dying

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 8:11:48pm

re: #300 ipsos

Trump does business in the Middle East, doesn’t he?

At what point do his business partners in the Gulf lean on him to tamp down the anti-Muslim sentiment among his supporters?

At the point he starts to make them less cash. Money first. All else second or worse.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 8:14:20pm

How about we skip to the point where we just call you a paranoid conspiracy theory loon? @vonnahusby @Unabogie

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Romantic Heretic Sep 17, 2015 • 8:17:17pm

re: #105 CriticalDragon1177

I kind of like Heinlein’s take of the Santayana quote.

A culture that ignores history has no past, and no future.

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Teukka Sep 17, 2015 • 8:24:02pm

Off-topic, but whoah:

Investigation finds Exxon ignored its own early climate change warnings

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Joe Bacon Sep 17, 2015 • 8:25:10pm

Trump’s new campaign song…

Tomorrow belongs to me Cabaret

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Romantic Heretic Sep 17, 2015 • 8:27:16pm

re: #176 Great White Snark

Not as privileged as we used to be is the same as oppression!

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Romantic Heretic Sep 17, 2015 • 8:28:45pm

re: #178 thedopefishlives

One of their own tried to warn them.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 8:33:44pm

They were probably to busy laughing to get back to you @vonnahusby @Unabogie

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 8:38:06pm

Category Internet

Blue Nile will open three to four more brick-and-mortar locations in 2016, CEO Harvey Kanter told the B. Riley & Co. and Great American Group Consumer Conference on Sept. 16.

Kanter did not specify the locations of the new “webrooms,” as the company calls them. So far, the company has limited the stores to states in which it charges sales tax (New York and Washington), but Kanter hinted the store may eventually venture beyond that.

“The belief is that, at some point, we will see the Marketplace Fairness Act maybe pass and sales tax for Internet retailers maybe happen,” he said. “And we want to make sure we have a road map.”

So whats next Amazon maybe opens a BOOKSTORE?!

Sorry is buzzed blogging same as drunk blogging? I think that was maybe one beer too many this evening. I plead extenuating circumstances. Trump.

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Belafon Sep 17, 2015 • 8:38:12pm

re: #309 Kragar

@vonnahusby @Kragar_LGF @Unabogie I bet you fnord don’t get fooled fnord by anything, do you?
— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) September 18, 2015

I bet her whole house is done in tinfoil.

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 8:39:15pm

Conservatives would rather have a white president who lies than a Black president who tells the truth. #TrumpRally pic.twitter.com/Vrwn7CIXqd

— Casey (@pari_passu) September 18, 2015

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 8:41:18pm

re: #312 #CampaignZero

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Let Them Eat Fake

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 8:42:52pm

You made this statement, making you a liar https://t.co/pnHuUIvbkK @vonnahusby @LethalDose_50 @RickiAdoroIV

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

@frelling_cute Have Obama show his original birth certificate and put to rest forever. Why are his records sealed?

— vonna husby (@vonnahusby) September 18, 2015

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ipsos Sep 17, 2015 • 8:45:27pm

re: #311 Belafon

What’s scary is that she has a real job out there in the real world, and a fairly responsible one, too, with Raymond James. (Albeit in Fairbanks.)

I’m going to guess that she’s not telling her paying clients to invest everything in gold bars under their mattresses.

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 8:50:31pm

“DAMN YOU SOCIALIST BASTARDS TAKING CARE OF THE SICK, POOR, AND ELDERLY!” @vonnahusby @efuseakay

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 8:53:36pm

.@vonnahusby @efuseakay pic.twitter.com/0zHrcvc9FE

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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ipsos Sep 17, 2015 • 8:58:42pm

Suppose our new Alaskan friend refuses to take the oil dividend every year? I mean, you can’t get much more socialist than THAT, right?

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 9:03:00pm

re: #318 ipsos

Suppose our new Alaskan friend refuses to take the oil dividend every year? I mean, you can’t get much more socialist than THAT, right?

Biggest evah this year.

Alaskan conservatives are critically impaired when it comes to socialism.

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 9:03:40pm

The damned sportsball team won again tonight. I guess sportsball fans in Colorado can rest easy and not break their TVs and hurt loved ones.

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 18, 2015

Football season, YAY!

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Great White Snark Sep 17, 2015 • 9:04:00pm

Hey William, just caught up to the posts about your son, sorry I missed all that at the posts time. Best to you all.

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#CampaignZero Sep 17, 2015 • 9:06:48pm

nighty

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Kragar Sep 17, 2015 • 9:12:23pm

SPORTSBALL RULES! PS: Fuck your car! @teleskiguy pic.twitter.com/fhju6ZDXmj

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 18, 2015

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teleskiguy Sep 17, 2015 • 9:14:55pm

re: #323 Kragar

LOL

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CleverToad Sep 17, 2015 • 9:22:25pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

Well, at least it made one 90-year-old long-time Broncos fan very, very happy. Along with getting her new stair lift and three grab bars installed today, my mom had a really good day. For that, I’ll put up with listening to another game of American HandEgg at volume level 88.

The things we do for love!

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Cheechako Sep 17, 2015 • 10:22:07pm

re: #319 #CampaignZero

Biggest evah this year.

Alaskan conservatives are critically impaired when it comes to socialism.

Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!

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Khal Wimpo Sep 18, 2015 • 2:22:14pm

re: #306 Joe Bacon

Trump’s new campaign song…

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Video

You know, the hate-filled Trump voter (i.e. the GOP base) would all stand and applaud if someone started singing this song, and accompanied it with flags, eagles, fireworks, F-16s flying overhead, etc. etc. Some might even at the crescendo stand up and raise their arms rigid and outstretched … feeling a little uneasy at first, but gradually firming up in their determination, as they see all their friends and neighbors around them standing and giving the “Sieg Heil!” as well…

Spy Auto

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