Ben Carson Refuses to Back Down, Spouts Even Worse Anti-Muslim Bigotry

Overt bigotry at the highest level of the GOP
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Ben Carson, in tried and true right wing fashion, isn’t backing down on his bigoted statements about Muslims. In fact, today he not only doubled down, he got even worse.

Carson explicitly advocated a religious test for public office, saying whoever is elected president should be “sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran.” And then he proceeded to recite one of the looniest of the loony right wing anti-Muslim memes — the idea that Muslims can never be trusted because they practice “taqqiyah,” or deliberate dishonesty to trick decent God-fearing American patriots like Ben Carson, so they can take over America by stealth jihad and put all our womenfolk in burqas. Sickening.

This is straight out of the Pamela Geller-Robert Spencer-Frank Gaffney axis of hate speech. Ben Carson’s apparently been reading the garbage propaganda circulated by the so-called “counter-jihad” nutcases.

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson is standing by his view that a Muslim should not be president of the United States, telling The Hill in an interview on Sunday that whoever takes the White House should be “sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran.”

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In an interview with The Hill, Carson opened up about why he believes a Muslim would be unfit to serve as commander in chief.

“I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country,” Carson said, referencing the Islamic law derived from the Koran and traditions of Islam. “Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

Carson said that the only exception he’d make would be if the Muslim running for office “publicly rejected all the tenants of Sharia and lived a life consistent with that.”



“Then I wouldn’t have any problem,” he said.

However, on several occasions Carson mentioned “Taqiyya,” a practice in the Shia Islam denomination in which a Muslim can mislead nonbelievers about the nature of their faith to avoid religious persecution.

“Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals,” Carson said.

It’s just infuriating to see this discredited, blatantly bigoted nonsense being touted by a presidential candidate in 2015. America has a problem, all right — but it isn’t “Muslims,” it’s anti-Muslim hate speech.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:33:06am

Substitute “Talmud” for “Quran” and “Kol Nidre” for “taqqiya” and you have the classic anti-Semitic tropes.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:35:30am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Substitute “Talmud” for “Quran” and “Kol Nidre” for “taqqiya” and you have the classic anti-Semitic tropes.

Muslims are the new Jews.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:38:48am
I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country,” Carson said,

Because every prospective Muslim president would implement Sharia. /

But oh here is my Christian doctrine that must be made law. //

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:38:56am

But Conservatives think they’re the ones under attack:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:39:18am

You know what else is inconsistent with the Constitution? The Ten Commandments. The Constitution is a framework for a government, not a system of law.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:39:33am

Might want to link to this page:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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KGxvi  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:40:14am

As I mentioned in the thread below… two presidents were sworn in on law books, not bibles. And one of them “affirmed” rather than “swore.” But facts and history don’t matter to religious fundamentalists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:40:19am

re: #4 Kragar

But Conservatives think they’re the ones under attack:

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LOL I like that “Come and Take It”

Because Sherman & his homeys been there & did that

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:40:19am

re: #2 Iwouldprefernotto

Muslims are the new Jews.

Only till we get rid of them. Then guess whose turn it will be.

Again.

Ann Coulter’s just getting out ahead of the pack.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:40:43am

re: #4 Kragar

But Conservatives think they’re the one under attack:

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As a straight man I cannot live as I please. And neither can any of the straight men I know.

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KGxvi  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:40:57am

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

Molan Labe didn’t work out so well for the Spartans, either.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:41:07am
I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country

Is Halakhah?

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:41:16am
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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:41:42am
publicly rejected all the tenants of Sharia

Now it matters where you live?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:41:48am

re: #13 Kragar

What is this Troubled Heart troubled about?

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:42:09am

re: #11 KGxvi

Molan Labe didn’t work out so well for the Spartans, either.

“COME AND TAKE IT” works fine right until some one steps up and takes it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:44:08am

re: #16 Kragar

“COME AND TAKE IT” works fine right until some one steps up and takes it.

“You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.”

“Your offer is acceptable.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:45:35am

[Christian evangelicals] feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

Oh wait, not Christian evangelicals, Muslims. Sorry.

//

My head is spinning

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:46:54am

re: #18 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh wait, not Christian evangelicals, Muslims. Sorry.

//

My head is spinning

You can’t kick G-d and Christians out of the public square!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:47:36am

I’m guessing Huck didn’t get an invitation to have a pep rally with the Pope:

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:47:51am
Muslims can never be trusted because they practice “taqqiyah,” or deliberate dishonesty to trick

Like the selective editing of videos to show something that didn’t happen? Or is that something Christians are allowed to do in a Christian nation?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:47:52am

“Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals,” Carson said.

All politicians operate within an Orwellian nimbus where words don’t mean what they normally mean, but Rovism posits that there is no objective, verifiable reality at all. Reality is what you say it is, …
- Neal Gabler, Los Angeles Times; October 25, 2004

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:49:57am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:50:21am

re: #16 Kragar

“COME AND TAKE IT” works fine right until some one steps up and takes it.

The Euboeans, among others, took the Spartans up on that one and then they took all their stuff.

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Whack-A-Mole  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:50:43am
“Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

And how would that belief be any different than the belief of 90% of the 2016 Clown Car occupants? Oh, I see. Only Christians are allowed to force their religion on you through their actions as public officials. Yeah, such persecution…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:50:43am

re: #4 Kragar

They don’t just want freedom. They want freedom from consequence. Nobody’s taking away their rights on any of those fronts. But for example on the ‘Southern’ thing, people are correctly pointing out that the CSA Battle Flag was the flag of people who went to war to preserve and expand the worst practice the United States ever undertook.

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:52:40am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing Huck didn’t get an invitation to have a pep rally with the Pope:

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:53:40am
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Ian G.  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:54:03am

Carson is, of course, right that Sharia is incompatible with the Constitution. He just doesn’t know why he’s right, because he’s playing a “my god is bigger than yours!” game, rather than acknowledging how NO ancient theocratic laws fit in the framework of our government.

I would not vote for a fundamentalist Muslim for office. But neither would I vote for his Christian, Jewish, Hindu, whatever equivalent.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:54:16am

Carson, like Trump and the rest of the GOP, have a very poor understanding of the Constitution.

Whether it is the affirmative duties - like Congress being required to provide for the nation’s general welfare (Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl. 1) or prohibitions - like preventing the use of a religious test for office (Article 6, Cl. 3) - the GOP seems to have struck out on the wrong side of the law and history.

Now, we can argue whether this is done out of ignorance or malice, but the result is the same - the GOP keeps moving further and further away from the Constitution.

For a party that loves to claim that they’re all about the Constitution, they sure do love skewering it daily.

Of course, there’s the significant problem where GOP candidates state all manner of falsehoods and the polls show them increasing their hold - rather than dropping - when challenged (if at all). It’s as though the lies and smears are endearing these candidates to the party, rather than repulsing the party.

It shows the rotten nature of the GOP.

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mr.fusion  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:54:47am
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mr.fusion  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:55:25am

Someone should ask the doctor how many of the Ten Commandments are actual laws. By his rationale, the Bible and Christianity goes against the Constitution

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:55:48am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:57:23am

re: #29 Ian G.

Carson is, of course, right that Sharia is incompatible with the Constitution. He just doesn’t know why he’s right, because he’s playing a “my god is bigger than yours!” game, rather than acknowledging how NO ancient theocratic laws fit in the framework of our government.

I would not vote for a fundamentalist Muslim for office. But neither would I vote for his Christian, Jewish, Hindu, whatever equivalent.

It should be noted that while many laws of Sharia and Halakhah are incompatible with democracy, huge portion of the laws are ritual/ceremonial (e.g. kashrut/halal) and are thus perfectly acceptable.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 11:58:37am

re: #29 Ian G.

Carson is, of course, right that Sharia is incompatible with the Constitution. He just doesn’t know why he’s right, because he’s playing a “my god is bigger than yours!” game, rather than acknowledging how NO ancient theocratic laws fit in the framework of our government.

I would not vote for a fundamentalist Muslim for office. But neither would I vote for his Christian, Jewish, Hindu, whatever equivalent.

these ‘christians’ who say that allah is not the same god as the one they worship are nothing more that henotheist heretics

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:01:12pm
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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:01:13pm

re: #35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

these ‘christians’ who say that allah is not the same god as the one they worship are nothing more that henotheist heretics

Not at all, they just don’t accept Allah as God.

It’s up to the believers to choose their interpretation of God. Claiming that Allah is or is not objectively also the god of Judaism and Christianity is absurd, because who the God of the three religions is, is a subjective judgment.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:01:40pm

re: #30 lawhawk

I’d bet that those GOPers all understand the Constitution well enough to know that they need to change the way that it’s commonly understood. The First, Second, and Fourteenth Amendments, all straightforward in their own right, are being subject to novel interpretations that turn their clear intent upside-down. Just as their Republican predecessors never dreamed that a pack of loonies would seize control of their carefully built monster, so this lot fails to grasp that someone loonier than they are will eventually find them lacking and beat them with their own sticks.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:01:45pm

re: #6 Nyet

Might want to link to this page:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Oh boy, that was one of my really early pages here—I hadn’t read it in a long time, heh.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:02:08pm

Ted Cruz To Be Excommunicated From Conservatism

It would be unconstitutional to disqualify a Muslim from the presidency because of religion, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Sunday.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:03:22pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:03:46pm

re: #37 Nyet

Not at all, they just don’t accept Allah as God.

It’s up to the believers to choose their interpretation of God. Claiming that Allah is or is not objectively also the god of Judaism and Christianity is absurd, because who the God of the three religions is, is a subjective judgment.

in the usual wording of the rejection, though, they term allah to be ‘not the same god’

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:04:20pm

re: #33 Kragar

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:05:01pm

re: #43 Tigger2

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What did Obama “do” this time?

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:05:54pm

re: #44 Iwouldprefernotto

What did Obama “do” this time?

Nothing except in the Republicans warped minds.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:06:09pm

re: #33 Kragar

Why is it that @POTUS goes to extremes to accommodate Muslim terrorists but shows nothing but disdain for Christians? #PopeInUS
— Gov. Mike Huckabee

I have no idea what Huckabee is babbling about here.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:06:16pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

in the usual wording of the rejection, though, they term allah to be ‘not the same god’

I have yet to read something like that.

Rather, the statement “he is the same God” is denied (by pointing out that either Allah doesn’t exist, or he is a demon), which is not the same.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:06:36pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:07:13pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I get goosebumps every time I see that picture, Khan was just 10 months older than me and only made it to his 20th birthday.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:08:34pm

re: #33 Kragar

So, wait, Obama is supposed to be accommodating to the Pope, even though Michele Bachmann, that Catholic GOPer who won’t attend the Pope’s speech to Congress and many other of Huckabee’s base are not?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:08:57pm
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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:10:08pm

re: #50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So, wait, Obama is supposed to be accommodating to the Pope, even though Michele Bachmann, that Catholic GOPer who won’t attend the Pope’s speech to Congress and many other of Huckabee’s base are not?

Bachmann isn’t in Congress anymore and she isn’t Catholic.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:10:34pm

re: #33 Kragar

Why is it that @POTUS goes to extremes to accommodate Muslim terrorists but shows nothing but disdain for Christians? #PopeInUS
— Gov. Mike Huckabee

Like when Obama accepted this Christian Pope’s mediation between the U.S. and Cuba?

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It's on his hat!  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:10:42pm

Wait, I thought the Pope was actually a cryptopagan?

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:10:51pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing Huck didn’t get an invitation to have a pep rally with the Pope:

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He’s finally showing what a vicious, nasty, lying asshole he really is. No more of that fake cool “Uncle Huck” who plays the guitar crap.

Never, ever be lulled by these extremist assholes.

You know in the scary movies where someone suddenly shakes their head and the person looking at them is horrified when s/he gets a brief glimpse of the monster that’s really under there? They’re like that. Exactly like that.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:11:09pm

I mean, let’s take rabbinic Judaism and Christianity. Both of them stem from the 2nd Temple Judaism, Christianity has the Tanakh as part of its Scriptures.

If a Christian claims that his God is the God of Judaism, it’s a consistent view rooted in history.
If a Jewish person claims that his God is not the God of Christianity, because the latter is Jesus, this is also a consistent view, rooted in logic.
There shouldn’t be a single “objective” view that the God of Judaism and Christianity is or isn’t the “same” one. It will always depend on the believer.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:11:12pm

re: #52 Timothy Watson

Bachmann isn’t in Congress anymore and she isn’t Catholic.

Praise Jeebus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:11:17pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:14:16pm

re: #34 Nyet

It should be noted that while many laws of Sharia and Halakhah are incompatible with democracy, huge portion of the laws are ritual/ceremonial (e.g. kashrut/halal) and are thus perfectly acceptable.

Thank you, you saved me some typing.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:15:20pm
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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:16:16pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:17:41pm

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Liberals are really the most classless people in the world. I didn’t watch the Emmys but all the Trump slamming is childish and ignorant.

— James Pogue (@JamesPogue2)September 21, 2015

t.co Andy Samberg it’s liberals that has created the terror rampage in middle east & home. Cops being killed. Nice job— K Honesty (@ubeaccountable2)September 21, 2015

#Emmys h/t ZH38 “A bunch of coke-snorting, America-hating, hell-bound liberals bashing Trump! He could not ask for better press!#Trump2016— CJLB (@orach24463_cj)September 21, 2015

it’s libberuls what has done this!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:18:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:19:29pm

re: #52 Timothy Watson

“that Catholic GOPer ” was referring to a different person. Hence the comma.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:23:50pm

re: #62 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s libberuls what has done this!

Trust me; those folks are working themselves up to a historical “Look what you made us do!” Whether they succeed or not, America will be a changed nation afterward.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:26:55pm

re: #65 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trust me; those folks are working themselves up to a historical “Look what you made us do!” Whether they succeed or not, America will be a changed nation afterward.

those of us who aren’t wingnuts are the battered wife of american politics

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:28:05pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

in the usual wording of the rejection, though, they term allah to be ‘not the same god’

Next time ask why, if that’s indeed the case, Arab Christians also use Allah.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:29:56pm

re: #56 Nyet

I mean, let’s take rabbinic Judaism and Christianity. Both of them stem from the 2nd Temple Judaism, Christianity has the Tanakh as part of its Scriptures.

If a Christian claims that his God is the God of Judaism, it’s a consistent view rooted in history.
If a Jewish person claims that his God is not the God of Christianity, because the latter is Jesus, this is also a consistent view, rooted in logic.
There shouldn’t be a single “objective” view that the God of Judaism and Christianity is or isn’t the “same” one. It will always depend on the believer.

It’s not a Theological question, because all Theological questions are null and void. Theology is a science without a subject. It’s strictly a historical question, and yes, it is transparently obvious that El, Elohim (Plural. Why?), Allah, are all the same god, called by the same name. The oddball is Yahweh, the Arabic-named Wind God, but he was subsumed as somehow being equivalent to the original El, Elohim after his priesthood eliminated the competition during the “Babylonian” “Captivity”, so that was long before Christianity and Islam threw up new prophets of the same God. Any of these Bible-Thumping Yahoos who say Allah is not the exact same God as the Elohim and Yahweh of Christianity and Judaism is an ignorant, suppurating pustule.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:31:37pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:33:24pm

re: #35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

these ‘christians’ who say that allah is not the same god as the one they worship are nothing more that henotheist heretics

Dante knew that. He imagined Mohammed in the circle of heretics, not among the pagans.

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Snarknado!  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:33:41pm

I’m baaack!

In the US, anyway (New York City). I’m not flying home until Wednesday.

BWS, my condolences on the loss of your stepson.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:34:12pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:35:11pm

re: #71 Snarknado!

Welcome home. ;-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:35:57pm

So I’m thinking what happens if this douchenozzle buys all the Lisinopril?

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:36:27pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

So I’m thinking what happens if this douchenozzle buys all the Lisinopril?

Free Market

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:36:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:37:37pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

So I’m thinking what happens if this douchenozzle buys all the Lisinopril?

It’s already generic.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:37:40pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From your perspective as an atheist none of those exist at all, so they can’t be the same or not the same. There is no “there” there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:38:52pm

re: #78 Nyet

From your perspective as an atheist none of those exist at all, so they can’t be the same or not the same. There is no “there” there.

Alternatively, since they don’t exist, they’re all exactly the same. 0 = 0.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:38:58pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Substitute “Talmud” for “Quran” and “Kol Nidre” for “taqqiya” and you have the classic anti-Semitic tropes.

Substitute “bullshit” for “taqqiya” and you have the reason RW nutjobs can never be trusted.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:39:26pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Alternatively, since they don’t exist, they’re all exactly the same. 0 = 0.

So are you saying that Yahweh is the Invisible Pink Unicorn?!

;)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:39:59pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Yeah. Remember when Mike Huckabee was trying to sell himself as something other than a vicious hateful Dominionist shitbag?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:40:28pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s already generic.

Shkreli is already doing that with generics.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:41:04pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

So I’m thinking what happens if this douchenozzle buys all the Lisinopril?

I’m thinking that being robbed at gunpoint is less infuriating. At least the robber stands a chance of going to jail. This person will be shortlisted for Republican VP.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:41:39pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Remember when Mike Huckabee was trying to sell himself as something other than a vicious hateful Dominionist shitbag?

Just a kinder, gentler, Jonathan Edwards.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:41:57pm

re: #84 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m thinking that being robbed at gunpoint is less infuriating. At least the robber stands a chance of going to jail. This person will be shortlisted for Republican VP.

In 20 years he will run for POTUS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:42:03pm

re: #81 Nyet

So are you saying that Yahweh is the Invisible Pink Unicorn?!

;)

Or Odin.

As an aside, my Older Boy at the age of about 7, responding to a Christian friend who asked, “Don’t you know about Jesus?”:

“Isn’t he the son of Zeus?”

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:42:43pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Remember when Mike Huckabee was trying to sell himself as something other than a vicious hateful Dominionist shitbag?

Nope.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:43:40pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

Or Odin.

As an aside, my Older Boy at the age of about 7, responding to a Christian friend who asked, “Don’t you know about Jesus?”:

“Isn’t he the son of Zeus?”

I freaked a nun with that at 7. Epiphany Elementary shouldn’t have had The Golden Fleece in the library.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:43:46pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:43:47pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

Or Odin.

As an aside, my Older Boy at the age of about 7, responding to a Christian friend who asked, “Don’t you know about Jesus?”:

“Isn’t he the son of Zeus?”

LOL my kids believed that Santa was elderly Jesus.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:44:19pm

re: #88 Skip Intro

Hey, he went on The Daily Show, “wrote” a diet book, smiled a lot, acted real friendly, and kept the real Mike Huckabee under wraps.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:44:21pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

LOL my kids believed that Santa was elderly Jesus.

Why the heck not :)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:44:58pm

re: #78 Nyet

From your perspective as an atheist none of those exist at all, so they can’t be the same or not the same. There is no “there” there.

Exactly. I said Theological questions are null and void. But according to their respective prophets, they’re the same God. Jesus was quite clear that his “Father” was the God of Abraham. (He wasn’t aware of the Yahweh switcheroo.), and Muhammad was quite clear that his God was the same as that of Abraham and Jesus. Both are prophets of Islam.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:45:51pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

Santa’s Hannukah Harry - just being kind to the neighbors who don’t get 8 days of presents. /

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:45:55pm
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It's on his hat!  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:46:13pm

I’d be really curious to hear what my kids understand about Christian theology, given the mishmash of stuff they’ve heard from friends and relatives, and the short and rather glib treatment of the Resurrection I gave them at the dinner table that one time…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:46:32pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

LOL my kids believed that Santa was elderly Jesus.

This doesn’t lead to an invidious comparison of Hanukkah gifts, does it?

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Wile E. Wonka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:47:29pm

re: #44 Iwouldprefernotto

He invited a number of prominent gay Catholics, as well as a gay Episcopal bishop and the heads of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (the American nuns’ group that had earned the special ire of Benedict a few years ago), to the Pope’s White House reception.

I read somewhere that a spokesman for the Pope’s delegation had made a complaint too, but I can’t find that at the moment. Just the wingnut arglebargle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:48:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:48:27pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

This doesn’t lead to an invidious comparison of Hanukkah gifts, does it?

LOL my daughter said “Non Jewish kids are so dumb! Everybody knows it’s the GRANDPARENTS who buy the presents!”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:48:28pm

re: #99 Wile E. Wonka

He invited a number of prominent gay Catholics, as well as a gay Episcopal bishop and the heads of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (the American nuns’ group that had earned the special ire of Benedict a few years ago), to the Pope’s White House reception.

I read somewhere that a spokesman for the Pope’s delegation had made a complaint too, but I can’t find that at the moment. Just the wingnut arglebargle.

That dance would be normal negotiation for the visit of any head of state.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:49:36pm

re: #96 Skip Intro

Hey GOP, leave the obstacles to the Ninja warriors trying to climb Mt. Midoriyama. They shouldn’t be put in place to vote (your asses out of office).

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:49:37pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Gun-fuckers describe George Washington as a mass shooter

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:52:17pm

heh

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:52:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:53:22pm

re: #97 It’s on his hat!

I have occasionally emphasized to my kids that there’s a lot more to Christianity than the examples they see on TV or the Internet claiming their faith. There’s my Dad, whose faith made him a Pacifist even during WWII, so he did CPS for the duration. My brother who did the same during Vietnam. My other brother and his wife who put their asses on the line for their faith with Christian Peacekeepers, and others in my family who are all very religious, but celebrate diversity and oppose intolerance.

The Older Boy’s girlfriend has had little or no experience with that kind of Christian, so she has a more jaundiced view of Christians despite being raised by some than my kids have, being raised by athiests.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:53:31pm

re: #94 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Exactly. I said Theological questions are null and void. But according to their respective prophets, they’re the same God.

It’s not that simple. Even if it were true, scriptures are interpreted and reinterpreted, sometimes the conclusions reached are 180 degrees opposite to what “the plain text” says. And the best part: everybody does it, and everybody has a right to do it. So an outsider like yourself telling them how to interpret their texts doesn’t really do the trick. If they want to accept this, it’s their right. If they want to re-interpret this, it’s also their right. There are no “rules”.

Jesus was quite clear that his “Father” was the God of Abraham.

Which, for starters, doesn’t oblige Jews to anything, right?

and Muhammad was quite clear that his God was the same as that of Abraham and Jesus. Both are prophets of Islam.

Which obliges neither Jews, nor Christians.

The reasons you cite are, indeed, used by many believers of the three faiths to assert the sameness of God.

On the other hand, the believers opposed to the notion of sameness will cite the many irreconcilable differences. As is also their right.

Since there are no objective rules that would establish the sameness or lack thereof, everybody is entitled to their views.

If a follower of some Eastern religion believes that, say, Jesus was an avatar of Vishnu, and is thus the same God - they’re entitled to it. And Christians and Muslims are just as entitled to reject this view.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:53:32pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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That would be ‘no problemo’ in Las Cruces, NM.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:54:06pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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So he wanted to become a nun?

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:54:08pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Davis’ son?

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Wile E. Wonka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:55:18pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

That dance would be normal negotiation for the visit of any head of state.

Well, sure. But of course to the nutjobs, letting Catholic dissidents and OMG GHEYZ into the party is a slap in the face to the baby Jesus himself and pushing an EBIL AGENDA.

If they let the Episcopalians in, what’s next? Unitarians? Muslims? BRAZILIANS?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:55:42pm

re: #112 Wile E. Wonka

Well, sure. But of course to the nutjobs, letting Catholic dissidents and OMG GHEYZ into the party is a slap in the face to the baby Jesus himself and pushing an EBIL AGENDA.

If they let the Episcopalians in, what’s next? Unitarians? Muslims? BRAZILIANS?

METHODISTS!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:58:03pm

I can’t stop watching this

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Wile E. Wonka  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:59:19pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

METHODISTS!

Hahahaha!
“Nitwits! Half-wits! Dimwits!” (but enough about the Republican debates)

Amusingly enough, one gay Catholic organization at the reception has been barred from using a local Catholic parish as their base of operations for the day, and is setting up shop in a nearby Methodist church instead.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:59:20pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t stop watching this

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Ritzo likes a nice slice.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:59:21pm

re: #108 Nyet

OK, you’re being deliberately obtuse. I don’t give a rat’s ass what Theological interpretation anybody wants to make up. All the Gods of all the Abrahamic religions are a historically continuous development. This is just an objective fact. If some gomers want to rewrite history—well, that’s one of our biggest problems right now.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 12:59:30pm

My Tea Bag neighbor no longer has his Ben Carson For Supreme Mullah car magnet on his ride. Maybe, just maybe…..Nah. And no, I’m not asking.

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TedStriker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:00:17pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

METHODISTS!

Rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:00:55pm

re: #119 TedStriker

Rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists…

Was that actually scripted or did Harvey Korman just riff it?

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TedStriker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:02:05pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

Was that actually scripted or did Harvey Korman just riff it?

Dunno.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:02:09pm

re: #119 TedStriker

Blazing Idiots… (Sigh….)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:03:07pm

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Gun-fuckers describe George Washington as a mass shooter

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I’m living in a time when numbers of my fellow Americans demonstrably have no fucking idea of the point of America. It makes sense that they hate those immigrants who get the point in their bones.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:03:26pm

The ceremonial exchange of representative gifts is going to be lame. Obama will give a Virginia ham or such. The pope will give a plenary indulgence.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:04:04pm

But when it comes to kids, we’re number one!

[…]

New Mexico did perform worse than Mississippi this time in one respect—childhood poverty. For 2014, nearly one-third of children were living in New Mexico lived in poverty, the highest in the nation, according to National KIDS COUNT. This was 30 percent. Mississippi came in second worst, at 29 percent.

[…]

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Franklin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:04:05pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t stop watching this

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I bet you #pizzarat doesn’t eat his pizza with a knife and fork.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:04:44pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

One of my brothers in law had a chain of Roy Rogers back in the day in Queens and another borough in NYC that escapes me. He would tell us of how the rats would chew through cinder block and concrete non stop in his walls. They would patch it over with ground and broken glass mixed with concrete, and they would still get through.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:05:05pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

The ceremonial exchange of representative gifts is going to be lame. Obama will give a Virginia ham or such. The pope will give a plenary indulgence.

Maybe Obama could give the Pope a bust of Churchill.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:05:06pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

He’s going down the wrong side of the staircase for subway etiquette purposes. And you’re not supposed to carry food into the subway.

Other than that… /////////////////

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:06:00pm
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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:06:22pm

re: #117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, you’re being deliberately obtuse. I don’t give a rat’s ass what Theological interpretation anybody wants to make up. All the Gods of all the Abrahamic religions are a historically continuous development. This is just an objective fact. If some gomers want to rewrite history—well, that’s one of our biggest problems right now.

No, you’re being deliberately obtuse. Theological interpretations is all sameness is about. Because it’s about what the believers think, not what you think.

It’s true that from a secular perspective the Abrahamic Gods are “a historically continuous development”. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of sameness.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:06:51pm

re: #128 jaunte

Maybe Obama could give the Pope a bust of Churchill.

No re-gifting! A fiberglass Ronald McDonald would be typical folkart—Pope could put it in the lobby with the Pieta.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:07:38pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

The ceremonial exchange of representative gifts is going to be lame. Obama will give a Virginia ham or such. The pope will give a plenary indulgence.

Could be (has been ) worse.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:08:07pm

Awwww, Scott Walker’s campaign may be coming to a rather abrupt end. Presser scheduled at 6pm, no topic given.

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:09:00pm

What a smug prick.
Image: turingceo-800x430.jpg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:09:46pm

and

good grief…

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:10:11pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

No not that bust, it already went back home. It would be such a great troll, though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:10:53pm

re: #131 Nyet

Don’t make me stop this car. Both of you make completely valid, but significantly different points. Objectively, all Abrahamic religions have the same god. But since faith is subjective, they can believe that’s not true if they want.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:11:03pm

re: #134 lawhawk

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Franklin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:11:23pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief…

Brief. To the point.

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:11:30pm

..Because, the Seventh Day Adventist church isn’t nutty….

Cough

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:11:44pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

What a smug prick.
Image: turingceo-800x430.jpg

He looks like the kind of person in my younger years i would have loved to punch.

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b_sharp  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:12:07pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me stop this car. Both of you make completely valid, but significantly different points. Objectively, all Abrahamic religions have the same god. But since faith is subjective, they can believe that’s not true if they want.

Did you just threaten them & then hit them with logic?

Without stopping the car?

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:12:17pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t stop watching this

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E gad, is that what the #pizzarat thing is referring too?? I haven’t had Tweetdeck open so I haven’t been paying attention…

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:12:41pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

What a smug prick.
Image: turingceo-800x430.jpg

I watched Wolf of Wallstreet last night. Timely.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:12:55pm

re: #142 Tigger2

He looks like the kind of person in my younger years i would have loved to punch.

The kind of face that makes your fist ball up just looking at it.

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:13:12pm

BWHAHAHAH.

If you were blindsided by this decision, as these nitwits are:

then you haven’t been paying attention to the polling over the past 3 months. He’s been going in only one direction - towards the sewer.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:13:54pm

I’m ready for another llama chase.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:14:18pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

What a smug prick.
Image: turingceo-800x430.jpg

Look. A well groomed parasite. Would it be wrong of me to wish he contract something a pill could not help?

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:14:33pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me stop this car. Both of you make completely valid, but significantly different points. Objectively, all Abrahamic religions have the same god. But since faith is subjective, they can believe that’s not true if they want.

The point is that the bolded part is absurd. There is nothing objective about this. The word “same” is inapplicable outside of a subjective opinion in this context.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:16pm

re: #134 lawhawk

Awwww, Scott Walker’s campaign may be coming to a rather abrupt end. Presser scheduled at 6pm, no topic given.

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The least that they can do for us is to have Walker take the stage in the next debate and then be dropped through a trap door just before they introduce him.

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:28pm

re: #147 lawhawk

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then you haven’t been paying attention to the polling over the past 3 months. He’s been going in only one direction - towards the sewer.

BUT HE’S AT .5%!!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:29pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

The ceremonial exchange of representative gifts is going to be lame. Obama will give a Virginia ham or such. The pope will give a plenary indulgence.

i think they should sacrifice a spotless pizza and pour a libation of mountain dew

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:34pm

re: #149 nines09

Look. A well groomed parasite. Would it be wrong of me to wish he contract something a pill could not help?

Some kind of fungus that would make his face rot off.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:36pm

re: #147 lawhawk

I just came here to post that.

Honestly, I would’ve thought that everyone at the second kid’s table debate would’ve quit by now. Seeing Walker jump before any of them is weird, even with his shitty poll numbers.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:15:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:16:08pm
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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:16:11pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

BUT HE’S AT .5%!!!

He might get better!

/Dead parrot sketch anyone?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:16:33pm

re: #143 b_sharp

Did you just threaten them & then hit them with logic?

Without stopping the car?

My favorite line from Heinlein’s “Glory Road” - “This man is the problem. You, you, and you - take this man out and shoot him.”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:16:34pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief…

She’s putting Whiteout on her phone’s screen.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:16:47pm

re: #151 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The least that they can do for us is to have Walker take the stage in the next debate and then be dropped through a trap door just before they introduce him.

Only if a union “thug” gets to pull the lever.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:17:04pm

re: #134 lawhawk

Awwww, Scott Walker’s campaign may be coming to a rather abrupt end. Presser scheduled at 6pm, no topic given.

i will admit to a considerable amount of gratification at the news

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:17:29pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:17:43pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

WALKER is dropping out. A GOP source briefed on the decision says: “The short answer is money.” t.co
— Jonathan Martin

Seriously? Already?

It’s just a flesh wound!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:18:39pm

re: #161 Iwouldprefernotto

Only if a union “thug” gets to pull the lever.

To the accompaniment of the FD pipe band.

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:18:40pm

The 4 guys who had a debate to themselves because they polled below Walker are still in though, right?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:18:46pm

re: #150 Nyet

Nonsens. One can evaluate the texts objectively from outside the faiths in question..

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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:18:46pm

Who will pick up his asterisk. HEH! /sounds dirty too…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:05pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

On my way to an exclusive interview with Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis. Stay tuned. @ABC @GMA pic.twitter.com
— Paula Faris

Oh, Paula, you’re better than this.

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Interesting Times  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:05pm

So whose campaign will the kochs in$eminate now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:13pm
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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:23pm
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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:35pm
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lawhawk  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:41pm

re: #166 b.d.

Their campaign burn rates must either be lower, or they’re counting on sticking around in debates to gain a chance at a FoxNews slot.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:50pm

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Seriously? Already?

It’s just a flesh wound!

He spent much more time in college without getting a degree! He could campaign for three more years and not get elected!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:19:58pm

re: #162 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i will admit to a considerable amount of gratification at the news

BUT, But, he rides a motorcycle!??!?!?!?!??!

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:20:13pm

Shades of T-Paw

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:20:46pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:21:10pm

Oh look who has a sad==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:21:21pm

re: #172 Lidane

All the pundits who thought Perry and Walker would be in the race longer than Trump, please drop off your badges on the way out the door.
— Mt. Zandarnali

Can’t wait till were down to Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, and Jeb!

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:21:29pm

re: #166 b.d.

The 4 guys who had a debate to themselves because they polled below Walker are still in though, right?

AFAIK Perry is the only one who has officially dropped out as of this minute.

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:21:57pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:21:58pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who has a sad==>

The triumph of Trump over Walker is a triumph of loud over good.

It’s the triumph of Ass over Dick.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:08pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

A triumph of loud over good, a.k.a Breitbarting.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:12pm
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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:13pm

Do the Koch brothers get a partial refund?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:26pm

It wouldn’t take much to push the GOP debates into reality show territory; “The lowest-rated participant in tonight’s debate will have to strip to their underwear and crawl through this pit of axle grease! Be ready to call our 800 number and make your choice for the winner, and the loser (Heh heh), of tonight’s Debate-a-Palooza!”

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:31pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who has a sad==>

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His sad makes me very, very happy.

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:35pm

Don’t worry, the Koch brothers won’t have to go to far to shop for another stooge.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:22:58pm

re: #181 CuriousLurker

Perry has “Suspended” his run… Things could change you know.

///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:23:00pm

Trumps been sucking up all the oxygen in the room, and Walker’s the second to collapse from hypoxia.

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:23:26pm

re: #182 Tigger2

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“job” got cut off.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:23:28pm

Can’t say I had Jim Gilmore sticking around longer than Walker.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:23:32pm

re: #184 jaunte

A triumph of loud over good, a.k.a Breitbarting.

But doesn’t Ben work write for the Dead Breitbarts?

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:23:53pm

re: #149 nines09

Look. A well groomed parasite. Would it be wrong of me to wish he contract something a pill could not help?

Backpfeifengesicht.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:08pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

Nonsens. One can evaluate the texts objectively from outside the faiths in question..

Of course one can evaluate texts objectively. And that doesn’t bring you even a step closer to your preferred conclusion.

Your fallacy is that you equate “having common roots” with “being the same”.

What you can show from the texts is the historical development of these personages from a common root. Basta. Whether they’re “the same” God or not is up to the believer who actually believes in one of those Gods to decide.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:11pm

re: #134 lawhawk

Awwww, Scott Walker’s campaign may be coming to a rather abrupt end. Presser scheduled at 6pm, no topic given.

ok, gop, here’s the plan:

have a number of different foxnews backed challengers to trump rise and fall in the polls for the next few months while all the gop candidates concentrate on discrediting each other with cutting, sarcastic remarks and ads

then trump and an anti trump backed by the part of the gop that teabaggers hate and execrate fight it out to a split decision by convention time

then the anti trump is nominated and the baggers walk out in disgust and denial

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:13pm

re: #191 Blind Frog Belly White

Trumps been sucking up all the oxygen in the room, and Walker’s the second to collapse from hypoxia.

He is the single worst of the lot. That takes talent and effort.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:14pm

re: #190 Dave In Austin

Perry has “Suspended” his run… Things could change you know.

Think “Kind Hearts and Coronets”

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:15pm

re: #177 b.d.

Shades of T-Paw

Oh gosh, I forgot all about that guy. What ever happened to him?

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:22pm

re: #191 Blind Frog Belly White

Trumps been sucking up all the oxygen in the room, and Walker’s the second to collapse from hypoxia.

He tried to string two thoughts together and shorted out.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:26pm

re: #194 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But doesn’t Ben work write for the Dead Breitbarts?

HOME OF THE SHOUTY HEADLINE

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:24:49pm

re: #193 The Mountain That Blogs

Can’t say I had Jim Gilmore sticking around longer than Walker.

Quitting takes effort.

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:25:17pm

So I guess with Walker out, Frothy moves up to the “A” team.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:25:45pm

re: #196 Nyet

You’re making that quote from Glory Road look good.
//

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:25:55pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

Oh gosh, I forgot all about that guy. What ever happened to him?

I think he died of boredom.
/

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:26:46pm

re: #182 Tigger2

There we go.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:27:14pm

re: #204 Skip Intro

I got a dollar says they’re back down to 10 a the next debate.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:27:51pm

re: #204 Skip Intro

So I guess with Walker out, Frothy moves up to the “A” team.

Heh. And CNBC will have soon to decide if they can justify keeping 13 or so off one stage.

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:27:52pm

re: #204 Skip Intro

So I guess with Walker out, Frothy moves up to the “A” team.

Or maybe No One will get the nod. Neck and neck with Frothy.

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:27:52pm
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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:27:56pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

Oh gosh, I forgot all about that guy. What ever happened to him?

Irrelevance.

With luck, Walker and all of the idiots who were at the second kid’s table debate will join him in obscurity.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:28:10pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

Oh gosh, I forgot all about that guy. What ever happened to him?

Think-tank type stuff, last I heard. I also heard on the radio that his wife is mulling a run for the House seat being vacated by Kline.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:28:25pm

re: #206 Varek Raith

I think he died of boredom.
/

Did anyone notice?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:28:41pm

Is Walker term-limited in Wisconsin?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:28:55pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

First; defund #PlannedParenthood

Second; Inflate Aids Drug

Third; Aids infection epidemic

Fourth: blame it on gays and promiscuous slutty women

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:29:09pm
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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:29:27pm

re: #205 Blind Frog Belly White

You’re making that quote from Glory Road look good.
//

Glad that you concede ;)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:29:36pm

re: #215 Timothy Watson

Is Walker term-limited in Wisconsin?

Walker is limited wherever he is.

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:30:03pm

Not sure why he’s dropping out.
He’s got *%!

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:30:27pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:31:04pm

re: #211 Varek Raith

twitter.com

Ah, so he’s doing the talking head thing.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:31:06pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

Not sure why he’s dropping out.
He’s got *%!

I was just starting to feel the Walkermentu…

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:32:05pm

re: #222 CuriousLurker

Ah, so he’s doing the talking head thing.

Funny, eh?
ZZZzzzzz

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:32:21pm

re: #222 CuriousLurker

Ah, so he’s doing the talking head thing.

I think he is on the Famous Larry Talking Show tonite.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:32:30pm

re: #213 It’s on his hat!

Thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:32:53pm

re: #218 Nyet

Glad that you concede ;)

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURR…aw, fuck it…
///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:33:03pm

LOL.
No Ben, only the terminally stupid ones.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:33:21pm

As Walker departs, lets all remember this…

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blueraven  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:33:21pm

Walker served as his own political strategist. That didn’t go so well, did it Scooter?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:33:30pm

we are now into ‘who’s next?’

my question is will jeb drop out before iowa?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:34:23pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Carson aide on Muslim comments: GOP voters “are with us at least 80-20”

the way you say that makes it sound like you think it’s a good thing!

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:34:27pm

Unintimidated: A Governor’s Story and a Nation’s Challenge
amazon.com

One “collectible” for $33.04.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:34:32pm
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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:34:40pm

re: #229 Kragar

As Walker departs, lets all remember this…

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You know what he’s never wrong about?
Being wrong.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:34:51pm

re: #231 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

we are now into ‘who’s next?’

my question is will jeb drop out before iowa?

NO.

He was the money to stay in.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:07pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

awesome wingcat!

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rhuarc  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:08pm

re: #229 Kragar

Has he ever been right about anything?

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blueraven  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:09pm

re: #231 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

we are now into ‘who’s next?’

my question is will jeb drop out before iowa?

No. He has plenty of money.

Perry and Walker did not.

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Franklin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:45pm

re: #229 Kragar

As Walker departs, lets all remember this…

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Bill Kristol, wrong again.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:56pm

re: #234 Lidane

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Eat at Sbarro? “When I need a quick slice, I go where the locals go…”

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:35:58pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:37:52pm
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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:37:57pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

WALKER is dropping out. A GOP source briefed on the decision says: “The short answer is money.”

I guess he’s fallen out of favor with the brothers Koch.

Maybe he’ll follow it up by losing the governorship. That would be nice.

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:38:12pm
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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:38:20pm

Lest we forget…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:38:54pm

re: #233 jaunte

Unintimidated: A Governor’s Story and a Nation’s Challenge
amazon.com

One “collectible” for $33.04.

Unintimidated:0% and still Unintimidated.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:38:55pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:38:56pm

re: #43 Tigger2

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Which Muslim terrorist did President Obama accommodate? Is Huckabee referring to Ahmed Mohammed? I hope not.

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:39:13pm

My Brother is pretty anti-Muslim. Right now, he’s upset we’re letting refugees in. He says “there are too many young men wanting in here.” My Mom tries to defend him. He was in Desert Storm and she says he saw some really sick shit. She couldn’t tell me because she promised him she wouldn’t tell anyone. That said, I think it’s a really sad way to feel about any group of people. Maybe one day he’ll change his mind.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:39:39pm

I mean, I could go a simple route.
Christian God = Trinity (for most Christians).
Islamic and Judaic Gods are by no means Trinity, saying so is blasphemous. Ergo Islamic and Judaic Gods are not equivalent to the Christian one, despite the common roots.

But I won’t make the argument for one simple reason: an interpretation that “the God is the same but they just have a wrong way of viewing him” is also possible. Within the context of theological interpretations, of course. When one accepts that (a) God exists.

If we’re talking about an “objective analysis of the text” (which disregards theology), then such an approach is not possible, and the argument would stand, not as a way of proving non-sameness, but rather as demonstrating that arguing about sameness or non-sameness is pointless in the “objective analysis” mode. It would depend strictly on the arbitrarily chosen criteria of sameness. If we choose the historical criteria, we reach one conclusion, if we look at the actual “content” of a chosen God, we reach the opposite conclusions, and so on.

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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:39:51pm

It takes some serious effort to be that wrong all the time.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:39:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:40:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:40:37pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL.
No Ben, only the terminally stupid ones.

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That may actually be true. Republicans appear to be thoroughly bigoted and have made it clear that they are seeking the maximum White vote since they’ve ticked off gays, Muslims, Latinos, Blacks and increasingly women.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:40:50pm

re: #249 Patricia Kayden

Which Muslim terrorist did President Obama accommodate?

Use the google don’t have time to do your research for you!!!!111

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:40:55pm

re: #236 Iwouldprefernotto

re: #239 blueraven

well jeb! bids fair to be the marion davies of the 2016 race

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:41:28pm

re: #252 Varek Raith

It takes some serious effort to be that wrong all the time.

The true miracle is that they’re both still employed by RWNJ media.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:41:52pm

re: #33 Kragar

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:42:16pm

re: #248 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:42:25pm
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Varek Raith  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:43:05pm

re: #260 Tigger2

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Ouch.

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William Lewis  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:43:14pm

re: #147 lawhawk

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then you haven’t been paying attention to the polling over the past 3 months. He’s been going in only one direction - towards the sewer.

Here’s praying that the people of Wisconsin have been watching his ignorance on display and that he flames out here as well.

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:43:22pm

re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon

Indeed, first come guys like this, then come the revolutionaries.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:43:50pm

re: #229 Kragar

Never Right Kristol strikes again.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:44:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:44:36pm

re: #265 Patricia Kayden

Never Right Kristol strikes again.

Between him and Dick Morris, Walker never had a prayer.

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:44:37pm

re: #221 Kragar

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And the worst thing, I’m already seeing posts on the far right that he’s doing the morally correct thing. That it’s his moral and legal responsibility to maximize returns for his investors. To do anything else is to fail at his job.

And then they wonder why the Pope MIGHT JUST have an issue with pure unbridled capitalism and the culture of greed that it incubates.

Spit. and a second time, for good measure.

RBS

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:45:07pm

re: #256 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Use the google don’t have time to do your research for you!!!!111

It’s that many? Wowzers.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:45:15pm

re: #258 Skip Intro

The true miracle is that they’re both still employed by RWNJ media.

But reality is what they say it is. And I can’t wait for all the usual suspects to tell us how and why Flounder Face fell from grace. I’m sure it was a diabolical plot. Prince Vapid. Poor Prince Vapid. I wish he would have hung in longer and burned more of the Koch brothers moolah. They have a lot I want to see get smoked.

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:45:40pm

GENIUS!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:45:47pm
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blueraven  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:46:39pm

This: from only 6 hours ago.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:46:55pm

re: #266 Kragar

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Damn you, you made me upding The Daily Caller!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:47:21pm

re: #271 b.d.

No one in the media is talking about Walker, which I think was his gameplan.
— John Nolte

How come nobody wants me on their TV? I’m as good as Bill Kristol. Better, even.

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Belafon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:47:34pm

#196 Nyet:

So, did Ahmed invent the clock or not?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:47:56pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Historians may scratch their heads off when they see that someone like Trump is actually leading in polls for an established political party and could be the GOP candidate for President. I’m sure in his quieter moments, even Trump is shocked that his trolling has taken him this far.

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Jay C  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:48:23pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #33 Kragar

Well, according to TPM , the Huckster is all het up about President Obama inviting some transgender activists, and *gasp* an openly gay Episcopal bishop the WH to meet with the Pope - I guess Mike would have preferred to greet His Holiness by burning them at the stake - so as not to “politicize” the event.
Wotta maroon….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:48:26pm

re: #273 blueraven

Thanks @DanZumbach for the kind words. We’re here to fight and win in Iowa! #IAcaucus - SW t.co
— Scott Walker

Maybe he doesn’t know he’s being dropped out.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:48:40pm

re: #273 blueraven

This: from only 6 hours ago.

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Someone forced him to have the “come to Jesus [campaign finance director]” meeting.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:48:42pm

re: #271 b.d.

GENIUS!

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“His dressing as a background drape was all part of the plan…..”

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:50:06pm

(SFW)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:50:10pm

tiny violins:

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Nyet  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:50:17pm

re: #276 Belafon

#196 Nyet:

So, did Ahmed invent the clock or not?

I’ll get back to you on that right after I google for the price of tea in China. ;)

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:50:28pm

Wow…going fast to try to catch up…

Chuck Todd weighs in on Scotty Walker pulling the plug. (Sorry if already posted, like I said the posts are coming fast…)

NBC News - Scott Walker Set to Exit GOP Presidential Race

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is set to drop out of the presidential race Monday night, a source close to the campaign confirms to NBC News.

He is scheduled to hold a press conference in Madison, Wisconsin, at 6pm ET to announce his exit from the race.

The Republican was once considered a frontrunner for the GOP nomination, topping polls in Iowa and winning accolades from conservatives for his fights against labor unions during his tenure as governor of the state.

But a series of missteps — and the rise of unconventional candidates like Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson — found him plummeting in national and key early state polls.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:51:00pm

re: #278 Jay C

Well, according to TPM , the Huckster is all het up about President Obama inviting some transgender activists, and *gasp* an openly gay Episcopal bishop the WH to meet with the Pope - I guess Mike would have preferred to greet His Holiness by burning them at the stake - so as to to “politicize” the event.
Wotta maroon….

Meanwhile, GOPers and wingnuts try to tar the Pope as a Commie, anti-American, etc. But OK Mike, be upset about the gay episcopal bishop going to the WH.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:51:23pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

THE HORROR. As if Republicans never mock anyone.

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JamesWI  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:51:38pm

re: #215 Timothy Watson

Is Walker term-limited in Wisconsin?

No, but between his terrible budget decisions, blatant corruption, and this hilarious Presidential campaign, his approval rating here is below 40%. And I doubt it will rise after embarrassing himself on the national stage.

So now, we just need the Wisconsin Democrats to actually put forward a good candidate and an effective campaign….errrrr…..well in that case, I guess we should just get ready for Scott Walker, Governor-for-Life.

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Jenner7  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:51:52pm

Carson went down in the polls after the debates, will he now go back up for his comments?

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:09pm

re: #273 blueraven

This: from only 6 hours ago.

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Last ditch effort to scam some money.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:10pm

re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon

My concern is that assholes like this guy will end up fucking up the whole biomedical research industry. This shit costs a lot of money, and to get people to work as hard as they do, they have to expect a pretty good reward. But it has to be sane. Blatant gouging may lead to excessive controls, which might discourage innovation.

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:12pm
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Reality Based Steve  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:21pm

re: #276 Belafon

#196 Nyet:

So, did Ahmed invent the clock or not?

It looks like he used parts from an existing digital clock as the main part, but that doesn’t take a bit away from what he did. I’ve built many things over the years where I took existing pieces and reused them.

Of course the right sees it a bit different…
The little terrorist built a detonator, hid it inside a box, and brought it to school as a dry run for a bomb. Not surprising considering that his father is a radical Muslim activist

The Radical Activist thing comes from the fact that he challenged in a mock trial the wack-job preacher in Florida who was planning on burning the Koran.

RBS

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:23pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:25pm

re: #221 Kragar

In case anyone hasn’t noticed, generic drug manufacturers have been on a yoooge acquisition binge as of late.

Where things get dicey is like this drug that the douche nozzle picked up for on the cheap and seeing no other manufacturers and its limited sales, basically the drug goes the way of becoming an ‘orphan drug’-limited market, usually off-patent meds, and insane pricing.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:52:52pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

tiny violins:

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WHY WON’T YOU BE TOLERATE OF OUR DISCRIMINATION?!1!??!

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Skip Intro  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:53:57pm

Scotty, back in the glory days.

Maybe you should have asked for a bigger bribe, dumbfuck.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:54:14pm

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

My concern is that assholes like this guy will end up fucking up the whole biomedical research industry. This shit costs a lot of money, and to get people to work as hard as they do, they have to expect a pretty good reward. But it has to be sane. Blatant gouging may lead to excessive controls, which might discourage innovation.

The market already discourages innovation when it comes to curing illness. Investors want life long treatments…not cures.

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:55:36pm
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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:56:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:56:32pm

re: #299 Kragar

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Haha Au revoir wanker.

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William Lewis  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:57:19pm

re: #288 JamesWI

So now, we just need the Wisconsin Democrats to actually put forward a good candidate and an effective campaign

This is why Walker won the last three elections (well, with help from the Waukesha County Clerk “finding” uncounted ballots). But it’d never be close enough except for DPW’s arrogance and incompetence.

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:57:23pm

Heh!

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:57:39pm

re: #288 JamesWI

No, but between his terrible budget decisions, blatant corruption, and this hilarious Presidential campaign, his approval rating here is below 40%. And I doubt it will rise after embarrassing himself on the national stage.

So now, we just need the Wisconsin Democrats to actually put forward a good candidate and an effective campaign….errrrr…..well in that case, I guess we should just get ready for Scott Walker, Governor-for-Life.

I agree. I think I posted the other night that if he closes up shop for the election early he will be seen as a loser in Wisconsin. The fact he couldn’t sell his brand of union busting, social program chopping, etc. to this Republican base will make the people in Wisconsin rethink what they saw in Scooter and there will be some embarrassment they voted for him.

I hope Wisconsin bounces back and becomes a blue state for next November.

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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:58:02pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

tiny violins:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 1:58:09pm

re: #303 b.d.

Heh!

The jokes, they writeth themselves.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:00:53pm

This one goes out to Scott Walker

Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye - Steam

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:00:58pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:03:15pm

re: #308 Kragar

The Heritage Foundation: Standing Athwart history yelling STOP!!!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:07:52pm
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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:09:54pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:10:11pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:10:57pm

re: #309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Heritage Foundation I was born 175 years too late and didn’t get my fair share of slave profits Jim DeMint: Standing Athwart history yelling STOP!!!!1

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:11:49pm

re: #309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Heritage Foundation: Standing Athwart history yelling STOP!!!!1

you know who else was athwart?

newt gingrich:

“…She rolled onto him and somehow was sitting athwart his chest, her knees pinning his shoulders. “Tell me, or I will …”

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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:12:48pm

re: #309 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Heritage Foundation: Standing Athwart history yelling STOP!!!!1

And the line they’re pissed about:

Samberg went on to say that he’s not particularly interested in following celebrity chef Paula Deen’s progress on Dancing With the Stars.

“If I wanted to see an intolerant lady dance, I would’ve gone to one of Kim Davis’ four weddings,” he said.

oh the horror.

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nines09  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:14:22pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Walker is and will forever be one of the chosen who has one hand in your pocket and a knife in your back as he declares God wants him to just fuck you over. And over. And over. Hey. Wisconsin? He’s now on Koch and just limited to Dairyland. Wake up.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:14:24pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

tiny violins:

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Jay C  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:14:43pm

re: #311 Lidane

Who is God going to support now?

Hard to say: He has an annoying habit of failing to directly respond to polls…

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:15:14pm

Is hedge fund dude hedging a bet he can buy up pharmaceuticals and charge what he wants because we have Obamacare (expanded Medicaid) and may be heading to single payer? The thinking being…hey, it’s the government, they’ll pay whatever the cost is.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:15:21pm

Why Are Conservatives So Athwart?

insist will continue to be perpendicular until they become vatic

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:16:22pm

re: #311 Lidane

Who is God going to support now? Scott Walker said he’s “certain that running was God’s calling”

did he check to see if it was the right god?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:16:39pm
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Kragar  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:17:33pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:18:07pm

re: #311 Lidane

I guess G-d’s backing Jeb! or Carson or Trump! or Cruz or Rand or that other guy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:18:16pm

A former campaign staffer for Scott Walker is taking the governor to the woodshed in her Twitter account.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:18:59pm

re: #313 Aunty Entity Dragon

I’ve nearly forgotten Jim DeMinted.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:19:24pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

A former campaign staffer for Scott Walker is taking the governor to the woodshed in her Twitter account.

Not severely conservative enough?

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:19:54pm

re: #327 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not severely conservative enough?

Mostly tactical stuff.

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ObserverArt  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:20:44pm

re: #151 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The least that they can do for us is to have Walker take the stage in the next debate and then be dropped through a trap door just before they introduce him.

Hahaha. How about they make a little memorial altar on the side of the debate stage with gold framed photographs of Perry and Walker (and whoever by the next debate) with a US flag, a wreath of red red roses and white carnations and roped in with red velvet with polished brass stands and hardware.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:21:31pm

re: #308 Kragar

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Like the tolerance she’s shown to lgbt couples? Fuck off HF wankers.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:21:53pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

A former campaign staffer for Scott Walker is taking the governor to the woodshed in her Twitter account.

Looks like she’s accustomed to being fired for any reason whatsoever;

Former online comms strategist to Sen. Paul, Govs Walker & Perry & Carly Fiorina; former RNC Online Comms Director; Freedom to Marry; libertarian

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Reality Based Steve  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:22:15pm

re: #308 Kragar
When an elected official puts their religion before their sworn duties, mockery should be the least of their troubles

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That’s why we can’t have Muslims running for office. They put their beliefs before the law and the Constitution.
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(Aide whispers to RBS)
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She’s being PERSECUTED!!!!!

RBS

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jaunte  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:22:33pm
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Tigger2  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:24:37pm

re: #323 Kragar

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makeitstop  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:24:57pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

A former campaign staffer for Scott Walker is taking the governor to the woodshed in her Twitter account.

What’s this about, I wonder?

One last thought: Walker’s timing is good. Word is he just avoided getting tied to a very bad story that could well have been coming.

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blueraven  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:25:39pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:27:45pm

re: #335 makeitstop

re: #336 blueraven

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:28:57pm

re: #314 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

you know who else was athwart?

newt gingrich:

“…She rolled onto him and somehow she was sitting athwart his chest, her knees astride his shoulders and pinning them abaft under his aslant shirt. His eyes were agog and his mouth agape and his heart aflutter at the vision of her bodice that had come awry “Tell me, or I will …”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:29:06pm

re: #323 Kragar

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Lidane  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:31:14pm

Some Freepers are have a sad about Walker quitting. Others are more delusional than usual:

Wow! I really thought he would hold on through Iowa. His internals must be awful!

Literally… has the best resume of the bunch outside of Cruz.

I would say his votes will shift to more of the better candidates.

Can’t blame him at this point. Accomplishment alone doesn’t get it done anymore. Voters like charisma.

It makes me sad that he wasn’t ready for the big stage.
He accomplished more to rein in out of control big government than just about anyone in America, and he did it in the birthplace of the communist movement in America of all places.

Walker and most of the other GOP candidates need to learn from Trump - grow a pair and boldly speak for and defend the conservative views that your constituents believe in. Spend your time trying to appease the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the GOP establishment, and lose.

Trump and Carson killed the poor fellow. He had an impressive resume but for some reason went squish as a POTUS candidate.

Tragic. Especially with all the eGOP scattering candidates in the race, designed to help Bush win pluralities (where he can’t win majorities) in Winner-Take-All primary contests.
If Walker is pulling out because of his poll numbers, then why are Gilmore, Graham, etc., in the race at all?

I like him, but he was about as exciting as plain cooked pasta.

Secretary of Labor in the Cruz administration would be a good spot for Walker. :-)

This is what happens when you get weak-kneed.

Had he been stronger on the illegal invasion, and more forceful overall he wouldn’t be an also-ran.

I liked Walker’s resume’ but wouldn’t vote for him because he was vacillating, and wouldn’t come down hard on the crimmigrant aliens.

So, I bid him adieu, and wish him well in his job as governor.

Next to go should be Pataki, Jindal, Santorum, and Huckabee.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Sep 21, 2015 • 2:32:49pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 21, 2015 • 3:44:38pm

re: #338 Aunty Entity Dragon

Awry, that’s a word you don’t hear much anymore. I miss it.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 21, 2015 • 6:56:43pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

As I joke:
“FROM MAH COLD DEAD HANDS!”

BLAM!

“Thanks! Nice piece”


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