New Poll Shows Overwhelming Opposition to Government Shutdown Over Planned Parenthood

But since when does the Republican Party care what people think?
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Bad news for the GOP’s Kamikaze Caucus today, as a new national poll from Quinnipiac University shows overwhelming opposition to shutting down the government over Planned Parenthood.

Of course, this doesn’t mean they won’t try to do it anyway.

Nearly seven in 10 Americans — 69 percent — oppose shutting down the government over funding for Planned Parenthood, according to the results of a new national Quinnipiac University poll released Monday.

Just 23 percent support closing the government over the dispute. Even among Republicans, a majority of 56 percent to 36 percent opposes a shutdown due to Planned Parenthood.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:07:08am

oh, what a tangled we he wove:

But the arms spigot that Kissinger turned on still remains wide open. According to the New York Times, “Saudi Arabia spent more than $80 billion on weaponry last year — the most ever, and more than either France or Britain — and has become the world’s fourth-largest defense market.” Just as they did after the Vietnam drawdown, U.S. weapons manufacturing are compensating for limits on the defense budget at home by selling arms to Gulf states. The “proxy wars in the Middle East could last for years,” write Mark Mazzetti and Helene Cooper of the New York Times, “which will make countries in the region even more eager for the F-35 fighter jet, considered to be the jewel of America’s future arsenal of weapons. The plane, the world’s most expensive weapons project, has stealth capabilities and has been marketed heavily to European and Asian allies. It has not yet been peddled to Arab allies because of concerns about preserving Israel’s military edge.”

Henry Kissinger’s Monstrous Mideast Policy

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Great White Snark  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:07:58am

Time for seven of ten of us to not just speak in a poll, but get active, shame the liars.

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:11:02am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:13:20am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s actually heartening to see that so many people refuse to give any support to the anti-choice extremists in their efforts to shut down PP. They see through their flim flam and know how important PP is to health care for millions of women.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:15:32am

re: #2 Great White Snark

Time for seven of ten of us to not just speak in a poll, but get active, shame the liars.

Yes, that would be most effective.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:17:15am

re: #1 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Baloney! To refuse to sell arms to middle eastern nations is simply to let other nations dominate the trade. We stopped arms shipments to Egypt when Morsi was turfed out and even now that we shipped them the fighters and gunship helos they ordered they’ve given the next contracts to France and Russia, respectively. The only order we got to keep was for our M1A1 tanks and that because General Dynamics and Congress threw in TUSK* upgrade kits for M1A1s Egypt already has.

There’s going to be violence there. But if we’re smart about how we handle things, we can use arms sales to gain or maintain influence.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:18:04am

The brainwashed fundamentalists of the xtian flavor don’t give a damn what the people want or think.

They are the annointed. They know what is best. People are just there for them to manipulate to serve god’s will.

And, being the annointed, they take Mastercard, Visa, Amex, Discover, PayPal, Cash and Bitcoin.

MOSTLY TAX-FREE

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:18:05am

re: #2 Great White Snark

Time for seven of ten of us to not just speak in a poll, but get active, shame the liars.

Won’t work, they’re beyond shame. They have to be voted down.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:19:04am

Is there any way that one can fire these silly congress critters for trying to inflict their version of “religion” on the people?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:20:36am

re: #9 PhillyPretzel

Is there any way that one can fire these silly congress critters for trying to inflict their version of “religion” on the people?

get involved and campain for your favorite candidate —donate $ …

most of all, DON’T BE SILENT

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:20:47am

Later this morning, Trump is scheduled to release his “tax plan”, which if it’s like any of his other plans, including his prior musings on taxes, will be a completely inpenetrable and incomprehensible mess that is at odds with itself. He’s said that he’s going to go after hedge fund billionaires for revenues, while slashing taxes for everyone else.

There’s no way to get revenue neutral with that kind of mix. None. Mark my words on that. He can’t reduce taxes to most people and then hope to make up the balance by cutting taxes to pretty much everyone and every other corporation out there.

It’s pretty much a variation on trickle down, and it simply doesn’t work. Where Trump differs from most of the rest of the GOP is that he’s singled out a subgroup of billionaires for his ire - hedge fund types. So they get hit with higher taxes of a sort, while everyone else sees a lower tax bill. I can’t wait for someone to do a serious analysis of his plan, but it’ll result in being seen as nothing more than vaporware (like most of what the GOP produces these days).

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Great White Snark  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:21:01am

re: #3 Franklin

Ah the part we out west in LA missed below the horizon. What better foreground could one have? Great shot(s). BTW thanks to all who joined us in the Blood Moon liveblog last night. I know some of our people stayed up waaay late. This was the last one that went well, from totality

Windy Moon

By afternoon I knew the clouds would ruin most of the images but they banded out a bit and left some beautiful moments, made it more red I think.

Back to our topic this morning, I think we should get out and push back for PP. Maybe a donation, maybe document protesters or share a story about what PP did for you or a loved one. We hear this call to action about so many issues, we get tired. But PP is really close to home for most of us. And an opportunity for those that choose their fighting issues carefully.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:21:35am

Leave it to the GOP to do something so few want and say the people demand it. Fuck the fucking fuckers so hard for trying to cause a shutdown over this.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:22:43am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

That is why I called them “silly congress critters.”

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:26:02am

Wow, the GOP has actually staked a position that polls below the crazification factor (or at least within the margin of error below it). I assume next they’ll announce their support for genital herpes?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:27:05am

re: #1 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“Saudi Arabia spent more than $80 billion on weaponry last year — the most ever, and more than either France or Britain — and has become the world’s fourth-largest defense market.”

Okay, so why aren’t they fighting ISIS?

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:28:05am

re: #11 lawhawk

Pretty much any federal tax plan announced these days is vaporware, because none can pass the Senate in their original form.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:28:13am

re: #12 Great White Snark

I was pretty much skunked by cloudy skies last night. We had a few minutes over the course of the hour before the eclipse where there were breaks in the sky so you could get shots, but the minutes before and after totality were a total loss. Totally clouded over where I was. I’ve got to sort through the pictures I did take to see what kind of results I got among a bunch of cloud draped moon shots.

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Stuff Happens  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:28:34am

I re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Saudi Arabia spent more than $80 billion on weaponry last year — the most ever, and more than either France or Britain — and has become the world’s fourth-largest defense market.”

Okay, so why aren’t they fighting ISIS?

Do they every fight anyone? It’s like they are just buying toys. .

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:28:56am
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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:29:13am

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Saudi Arabia spent more than $80 billion on weaponry last year — the most ever, and more than either France or Britain — and has become the world’s fourth-largest defense market.”

Okay, so why aren’t they fighting ISIS?

They’re fighting in Yemen, but they aren’t doing very well.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:29:45am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

The Senate isn’t the problem - the House will not produce a tax plan that is coherent. All the GOP wants to do is slice and dice federal revenues - slashing and burning revenues so as to force cuts to the federal budget.

The Senate knows that this is bad for everyone, so they’ll fight to restore things as much as possible, but the House is the source of the problem.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:31:14am

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Saudi Arabia spent more than $80 billion on weaponry last year — the most ever, and more than either France or Britain — and has become the world’s fourth-largest defense market.”

Okay, so why aren’t they fighting ISIS?

Why should they? When we’ll do it for them.

We reap what we sow.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:32:33am

re: #22 lawhawk

The Senate isn’t the problem - the House will not produce a tax plan that is coherent. All the GOP wants to do is slice and dice federal revenues - slashing and burning revenues so as to force cuts to the federal budget.

The Senate knows that this is bad for everyone, so they’ll fight to restore things as much as possible, but the House is the source of the problem.

GOP wants everything moved to the private sector. More profits for everyone somehow is supposed to equal more jobs.

I haven’t seen that happening.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:33:34am

totally missed out on the moon last night.

tired and allergied out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:34:05am

re: #24 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

GOP wants everything moved to the private sector. More profits for everyone somehow is supposed to equal more jobs.

I haven’t seen that happening.

They’ve been saying that for years and I’ve seen no evidence at all that it works.

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Great White Snark  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:34:32am

re: #18 lawhawk

Almost went like that here I have a hundred that will be deleted by tonight. What I did was to set the shutter interval for 5 to 8 seconds and recompose every twenty shots or so as the moon and clouds moved. At 400mm it’s a narrow piece of sky and focus was strictly by the mark on the lens. I feel lucky to have gotten what I did. I love the tacked shots like the one above here.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:35:07am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:35:15am

re: #25 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

totally Poped out and the allergy thing too.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:35:47am

re: #28 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I hoped they laughed him out of the court house.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:36:02am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Baloney! To refuse to sell arms to middle eastern nations is simply to let other nations dominate the trade. We stopped arms shipments to Egypt when Morsi was turfed out and even now that we shipped them the fighters and gunship helos they ordered they’ve given the next contracts to France and Russia, respectively. The only order we got to keep was for our M1A1 tanks and that because General Dynamics and Congress threw in TUSK* upgrade kits for M1A1s Egypt already has.

There’s going to be violence there. But if we’re smart about how we handle things, we can use arms sales to gain or maintain influence.

Like we did with the Mujahideen.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:36:18am
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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:38:03am

re: #22 lawhawk

The Senate isn’t the problem - the House will not produce a tax plan that is coherent. All the GOP wants to do is slice and dice federal revenues - slashing and burning revenues so as to force cuts to the federal budget.

The Senate knows that this is bad for everyone, so they’ll fight to restore things as much as possible, but the House is the source of the problem.

I’m sorry, I should have elaborated: It’s a good thing that the Senate won’t pass a tax bill that isn’t a compromise. Neither party has all the answers on taxes and compromise is needed for the government to function. Which is where things are breaking down over PP. Not that Planned Parenthood is itself responsible for the breakdown, because its not.

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Great White Snark  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:38:16am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Does anyone apart from the fringe really want it all one way or another? I don’t want private fire departments or water services. Nor do I want grocery stores to go government. Or fast food for example. We have adequate examples of failures and successes. By both. Gov Walmart? Privately run Los Angeles water mains? Nope.
Retail food looks like a success as does NASA when it gets money.

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Varek Raith  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:38:38am

NASA and their damn trolling!

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:40:06am

re: #31 Eventual Carrion

Like we did with the Mujahideen.

They weren’t an ongoing customer. We only gave them Stingers for a short time and didn’t really try to engage Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:48:15am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I’m sorry, I should have elaborated: It’s a good thing that the Senate won’t pass a tax bill that isn’t a compromise. Neither party has all the answers on taxes and compromise is needed for the government to function. Which is where things are breaking down over PP. Not that Planned Parenthood is itself responsible for the breakdown, because its not.

Sorry, but I detect a MBF going on. Democrats have seen the need for spending cuts and tax hikes, but the GOP, which is beholden to the nonsensical ravings of Grover Norquist, refuses to do anything but demand tax cuts in order to force still more spending cuts. Anyone who contemplates tax hikes, even on the smallest sliver of taxpayers, is derided and cast out as a RINO. Just watch how Trump’s tax plan that hits only hedge fund managers will be spun as a massive tax hike.

The GOP has sought nothing but obstructionism since 1/20/2009. They’ve refused to work with the Administration, even when the Administration coopted GOP ideas as part of his health care plan. The IM was a GOP/Heritage idea to foster personal responsibility, but the GOP decided that no health care was better than health care coverage for some.

On and on it goes, and the GOP depravity has only gotten worse. They are a know-nothing party that does just the bare minimum to keep government operations going, and even there, they’ve shown a willingness to shut it down in tamper tantrums - as in 2013, and are again threatening a shutdown over funding to PP.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:49:35am

re: #12 Great White Snark

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:53:56am

It would be nice if they would pay a political price for this.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:54:00am

Those Republicans who oppose shutting down the government are the wrong kind of Republicans and Tony Perkins and his Tea Party ilk are going to show them who really controls the party.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:55:36am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

They weren’t an ongoing customer. We only gave them Stingers for a short time and didn’t really try to engage Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal.

Walking away from Afghanistan after the Sovs withdrew was a colossal blunder with repercussions that are still killing people today.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:56:06am

#28 I Stand With Planned Parenthood: He’s going to have to show his proof of residency in Heaven, and understand that he’s still covered by the laws of the place he is currently residing.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:56:22am

re: #40 Skip Intro

The TP might show them who is boss but there will be a high price to pay.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:57:52am
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PeterWolf  Sep 28, 2015 • 6:59:22am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

They weren’t an ongoing customer. We only gave them Stingers for a short time and didn’t really try to engage Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal.

Actually, they weren’t a customer at all. They were a welfare recipient. And, as I’m sure you know, it wasn’t just stingers, but it was stingers that made perhaps the most significant difference.

But your principle premise is a crock, if not us, someone else. All you are saying is we should take the money and screw the consequences.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:01:20am

Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood faced opposition from the beginning. Ms. Sanger was harassed by the RC Bishops and jailed under Comstock laws for her work. Patriarchy knows that an educated woman is dangerous to their power structure.

The idea that Planned Parenthood got themselves into this mess is ludicrous. Their very existence is the reason they are attacked.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:01:23am

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

The TP might show them who is boss but there will be a high price.

I hope so. The media today is filled with stories of them crowing about bringing down Boehner, and as far as they’re concerned he’s only the first. They’re going to remake the GOP into a full far right wing theocratic party and destroy anyone who doesn’t submit to them.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:02:34am

re: #47 Skip Intro

Unfortunately yes. :(

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:03:28am

re: #47 Skip Intro

I hope so. The media today is filled with stories of them crowing about bringing down Boehner, and as far as they’re concerned he’s only the first. They’re going to remake the GOP into a full far right wing theocratic party and destroy anyone who doesn’t submit to them.

Our version of the Ayatollah?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:07:58am

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

The TP might show them who is boss but there will be a high price.

We’re already paying the price in every state where the anti-tax mantra has starved education and health services. It could get worse. The TP has an arsenal of excuses for why its policies have demonstrably and visibly failed every time they’re put into place. They remain convinced that nobody’s done it hard enough yet.

One of those times when I’m glad I’m old.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:09:56am

re: #41 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Walking away from Afghanistan after the Sovs withdrew was a colossal blunder with repercussions that are still killing people today.

I agree. But I said what I said to make the point that our support for the Mujaheddin in the 1980’s is not analogous to our support for Saudi Arabia and Egypt now.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:16:18am

re: #46 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood faced opposition from the beginning. Ms. Sanger was harassed by the RC Bishops and jailed under Comstock laws for her work. Patriarchy knows that an educated woman is dangerous to their power structure.

The idea that Planned Parenthood got themselves into this mess is ludicrous. Their very existence is the reason they are attacked.

I don’t know if you or other LGF members had a chance to watch Carly Fiorina on Meet The Press yesterday…but she absolutely refuses to acknowledge any of the facts about the PP videos. Here is a You Tube of the interview.

I just don’t get how she can hang her candidacy on an outright lie. It is either going to bring her down or the fact she is being this hard-headed will be good for her. And the only good I can see is she must think there are people that think everything PP is a total lie. The facts against her…lies. The media saying she is totally wrong…all liars.

Carly Fiorina Meet The Press. Chuck Todd Fiorina: Haven’t You Exaggerated Planned Parenthood Video?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:22:20am
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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:22:43am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:22:51am

re: #52 ObserverArt

I don’t know if you or other LGF members had a chance to watch Carly Fiorina on Meet The Press yesterday…but she absolutely refuses to acknowledge any of the facts about the PP videos. Here is a You Tube of the interview.

I just don’t get how she can hang her candidacy on an outright lie. It is either going to bring her down or the fact she is being this hard-headed will be good for her. And the only good I can see is she must think there are people that think everything PP is a total lie. The facts against her…lies. The media saying she is totally wrong…all liars.

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I can’t watch it. I want to start the week without being so pissed I can’t think straight.

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:25:09am

re: #54 Jenner7

I wouldn’t mind the whole “sunlight approach” to Clinton’s doings except that there’s a whole litany of GOP politicians (including Bush Jr. and Cheney, but also Walker et al.) who have had sketchy email mass deletion events passed over in near-silence by the likes of the NYT.

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:30:27am

Also I can’t really fathom the hatred for Huma Abedin. Is it the scary Mooslem name? The Anthony Weiner connection?

I mean yes, she’s basically a career apparatchik, but those are surely a dime a dozen.

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:36:55am

Hahaha.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:44:06am

re: #57 iossarian

Also I can’t really fathom the hatred for Huma Abedin. Is it the scary Mooslem name? The Anthony Weiner connection?

I mean yes, she’s basically a career apparatchik, but those are surely a dime a dozen.

I think you are correct with both your suppositions.

Anything that “darkens” the Hillary campaign will be used.

I don’t think people give enough credit to Hillary for all the crap she has to take just for being a Clinton. She has to campaign from the start with a 1,000 # weight on her back and a whole party trying anything to add more and more to that weight.

She very well could have said I am done with public life when she resigned as SOS before Obama’s second term. But here she is.

I give her credit for running just based on the fact no one gets as much political mud thrown as a Clinton. Even Jeb! manages to not be as burdened with the Bush name as Clinton. But I bet that is only because he is a Republican. Clinton knows where mud comes from. Sometimes I wonder if what drives her is she is loving messing with GOP heads and the more they toss her way, the more she wants to take it all on.

Whether you like her or not…that is some dedication.

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:47:13am

re: #59 ObserverArt

And whether you like her or not, she’s done so much for women’s rights and paved the way for the now successful ACA.

She isn’t just a name.

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PeterWolf  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:52:54am

re: #60 Jenner7

And whether you like her or not, she’s done so much for women’s rights and paved the way for the now successful ACA.

She isn’t just a name.

I think one can judge the relevance of Hilary, and her political contributions and smarts, by the amount of time and energy the GOP and Fox News spend in trying to attack her. I mean seriously, Fiorina literally gets a free pass, even when she is talking blatant, demonstrable bullshit. But, the merest whiff of something about Hilary that can be made into a headline, or congressional investigation, is.

The right wing, are very, very afraid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:54:31am

re: #61 PeterWolf

I think one can judge the relevance of Hilary, and her political contributions and smarts, by the amount of time and energy the GOP and Fox News spend in trying to attack her. I mean seriously, Fiorina literally gets a free pass, even when she is talking blatant, demonstrable bullshit. But, the merest whiff of something about Hilary that can be made into a headline, or congressional investigation, is.

The right wing, are very, very afraid.

They know that not a lot of people really like HIllary but will vote for her if she is the better candidate…and who could the GOP possibly nominate who is not a flaming right-wing ideologue?

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:55:53am

re: #57 iossarian

Also I can’t really fathom the hatred for Huma Abedin. Is it the scary Mooslem name? The Anthony Weiner connection?

I mean yes, she’s basically a career apparatchik, but those are surely a dime a dozen.

It’s the Muslim connection, the insinuation of bad jobu, and frankly the insinuations made by all manner of bad crazy about her faith, her beliefs, and goals, to say nothing of the nuts who think she’s in a lesbian relationship with Hillary.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:56:12am

re: #55 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I can’t watch it. I want to start the week without being so pissed I can’t think straight.

Well, when you need to get riled up…I am pretty sure that video will do it!

It sure stunned me yesterday.

Too bad Chuck Todd allowed her to buffalo him. When she asked him if he believed PP doesn’t do real late term abortions to harvest human tissue he should have simply said he doesn’t believe they do from the information he had. That would have forced her to continue to lie or come clean. Instead by him not contesting, it comes off to the RWNJs like she sure shut up Todd, we need a hard liner that sticks to her guns and takes on those lying media types.

Chuck Todd sucks. But he will now have “MTP Daily” at 5 PM (Eastern) daily on MSNBC. More suckage. It must be popular.

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PeterWolf  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:56:52am

re: #63 lawhawk

bad crazy.

Those two words, that’s it, in the nutshell.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 7:57:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:03:45am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:09:07am

.

And this poor girl who, rather than returning the child to sender, had the courage to carry it into the world, must wander from parish to parish so that it’s baptised!

Really Francis?

This is not progress, this is insulting.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:13:26am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:16:33am
SHARE IT, SHOUT IT, SHOW IT
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:22:24am

For those who aren’t sure why last night’s astronomical event was interesting, or because you were clouded over:

blood moon
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:22:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:23:25am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households - over 50% - from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

O_o

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:23:26am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m convinced now. //

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b.d.  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:25:24am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Trump, a family making under $50,000 a year = Winning.

Making America Great Again.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:28:31am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:28:53am

I’m gonna post this here because it’s actually rather amusing. A list of various Doomsday prophecies, all of which have proven to be spectacularly wrong, with some names we’re all familiar with.

en.wikipedia.org

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:30:03am
25% 20% $150,001 and up $300,001 and up $225,001 and up

Isn’t the current rate 39%?? I thought he said he would raise taxes on the rich?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:30:20am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Baloney! To refuse to sell arms to middle eastern nations is simply to let other nations dominate the trade. We stopped arms shipments to Egypt when Morsi was turfed out and even now that we shipped them the fighters and gunship helos they ordered they’ve given the next contracts to France and Russia, respectively. The only order we got to keep was for our M1A1 tanks and that because General Dynamics and Congress threw in TUSK* upgrade kits for M1A1s Egypt already has.

There’s going to be violence there. But if we’re smart about how we handle things, we can use arms sales to gain or maintain influence.

How about principle? We haven’t learned our lesson yet. We need to stop meddling in the region. Brought us nothing but problems.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:31:32am

re: #78 Jenner7

Isn’t the current rate 39%?? I thought he said he would raise taxes on the rich?

It’s Drumpf. Whatever he says, the complete opposite is likely true.

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:31:41am

His tax plan is screwy. He’s going to lower taxes on the rich, lower corporate taxes, and increase the number of those who don’t pay taxes at all….and somehow that will make us all rich again.

Okay then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:32:00am

re: #78 Jenner7

Isn’t the current rate 39%?? I thought he said he would raise taxes on the rich?

He’s getting rid of some unnamed exemptions and dedctions:

With this huge reduction in rates, many of the current exemptions and deductions will become unnecessary or redundant. Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions. Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions. Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions. Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:32:59am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I figured, it’s vaporware.

The tipoff is that he says that he’d eliminate some corporate loopholes without identifying which ones. He says he’d eliminate the AMT, without identifying what deductions would be eliminated to compensate.

This isn’t a plan so much as platitudes for the ill-informed.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:34:34am

It’s Banned Books Week!!!

85
Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:34:53am

Trump promises to eliminate the inheritance tax. I can’t tell you what relief it is for me to know that my inheritors won’t be paying any taxes on the 2006 Subaru I’m leaving them.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:35:14am

re: #79 GlutenFreeJesus

How about principle? We haven’t learned our lesson yet. We need to stop meddling in the region. Brought us nothing but problems.

B,b,b,but it made a lot of people a LOT of money and provided JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:36:24am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trump promises to eliminate the inheritance tax. I can’t tell you what relief it is for me to know that my inheritors won’t be paying any taxes on the 2006 Subaru I’m leaving them.

In other words, no Probate for those leaving their heirs more than $600K or whatever it is now.

Fewer jobs for the Trust lawers and Tax attorneys … .

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:37:22am

How does removing the “marginal” nature of the brackets make it simpler? How was it ever complicated?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:37:55am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:38:03am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:38:21am

So, everybody pays less, with more people paying nothing at all. But we’re gonna have a military so strong nobody will even think of giving us trouble, and we’re going to round up and deport 11,000,000 people humanely while building a big wall.

Anyone who buys this shit gets what they deserve. The rest of us deserve better.

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:39:35am

Oh goody, Chuck’s got a new show on MSNBC.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:39:47am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trump promises to eliminate the inheritance tax. I can’t tell you what relief it is for me to know that my inheritors won’t be paying any taxes on the 2006 Subaru I’m leaving them.

Do your inheritors know that your hamster gave birth in the back seat? Then again, that’s just normal wear and tear. /

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:40:29am

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

So, everybody pays less, with more people paying nothing at all. But we’re gonna have a military so strong nobody will even think of giving us trouble

…your head will spin
…you will get tired of winning
…winningness will be coming out your ears

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It's on his hat!  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:41:04am

Trump/Sheen 2016! Winning!

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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:41:21am

::snort::

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:41:27am

re: #79 GlutenFreeJesus

How about principle? We haven’t learned our lesson yet. We need to stop meddling in the region. Brought us nothing but problems.

D_F would have a point if we had any palpable and lasting influence in the ME to show for shoveling arms into the region for decades. Repeating the same mistakes is not policy.

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:42:28am

re: #96 Jenner7

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:42:57am

Man, that’s some high-grade snake oil Trump’s selling.

Math says ‘nope.’

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Varek Raith  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:44:20am

Water on Mars.

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:45:10am

re: #100 Varek Raith

Water on Mars.

And on Trumps brain.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:46:17am

re: #97 Higgs Boson’s Mate

D_F would have a point if we had any palpable and lasting influence in the ME to show for shoveling arms into the region for decades. Repeating the same mistakes is not policy.

But,bbbb,but ALL THAT MONEY

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:46:33am

re: #100 Varek Raith

Water on Mars.

Still no ice skating on the Martian canals though. Phooey!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:46:40am

re: #100 Varek Raith

Water on Mars.

Whodthunk —right?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:46:55am

re: #103 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Still no ice skating on the Martian canals though. Phooey!

I’d think it would be nothing but one big sauna

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:49:19am

re: #97 Higgs Boson’s Mate

D_F would have a point if we had any palpable and lasting influence in the ME to show for shoveling arms into the region for decades. Repeating the same mistakes is not policy.

Not policy, but a YOOOGGUEE money maker (for certain people). Then those certain people give yooogggue donations to those that make policy. And the circle is complete.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:50:06am

re: #97 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We do have influence there. Making them hate us as much as Israel.

When much of what you’re being killed with comes from a certain country, that tends to “leave a mark”, so to speak.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:50:10am

Have you noticed that all the GOP woman wear tons of make-up? Most professional women I know don’t have the time to apply much. Unless it’s a special event, or their job requires it.

I’ve heard wingnuts say that it’s only Lesbians and ugly women that become democrats.

Can you smell the misogyny?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:50:41am

re: #106 Eventual Carrion

Raytheon will become so yooge and rich, that they will let me have some of their monies. Somehow! I can feel it!

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:51:23am

In which right-wingers will now deride the NASA Mars mission as a sinister part of Teh Gay Agenda™:

Help, help, Kim Davis is being oppressed from space!
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freetoken  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:51:57am

Missouri AG finds no evidence Planned Parenthood mishandled fetal tissue

An investigation in Missouri found no evidence that Planned Parenthood’s St. Louis clinic mishandled fetal tissue or engaged in unlawful activity, Attorney General Chris Koster’s office said on Monday.

Koster’s office had launched an investigation after an anti-abortion group released videos over the summer alleging that Planned Parenthood in other states illegally sold fetal tissue.

“The evidence reviewed by my investigators supports Planned Parenthood’s representation that fetal tissue is handled in accordance with Missouri law,” Koster said in a news release. “We have discovered no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Planned Parenthood’s St. Louis facility is selling fetal tissue.”

[…]

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Franklin  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:52:01am

re: #88 Franklin

How does removing the “marginal” nature of the brackets make it simpler? How was it ever complicated?

Just to add: I don’t see the word “marginal” in his tax plan so I assumed it would be removed for “simplicity”. But I could be mistaken.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:52:21am

re: #108 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Have you noticed that all the GOP woman wear tons of make-up? Most professional women I know don’t have the time to apply much. Unless it’s a special event, or their job requires it.

I’ve heard wingnuts say that it’s only Lesbians and ugly women that become democrats.

Can you smell the misogyny?

Yes. GOPers measure a woman’s worth in her physical attractiveness. Hence Rush calling Chelsea a dog and McCain’s pathetic joke about her parents being Janet Reno and Hillary. All of the Fox newswomen are reasonably attractive women and I suppose that’s the point. To have those views told to their viewers from an attractive woman is in its own way a form of pornography.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:52:32am

U.S. Ranks 3rd Worst on International Tax Competitiveness, Again

I can never remember anything about this organization

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:53:06am

re: #111 freetoken

Can they send the bill to that stupid anti-choice group? Surely the tax payers have a right to be reimbursed for such a sham.

116
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:53:38am

We here at LGF pretty much debunked Matt Barber’s tweet yesterday, but ThinkProgress has all in one package now:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:55:30am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

We here at LGF pretty much debunked Matt Barber’s tweet yesterday, but ThinkProgress has all in one package now:

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Even if it were true, I don’t get Barber’s point. Most Americans including even some who disagreed with the Supreme Court decision have a problem with her.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:55:38am

re: #107 GlutenFreeJesus

We do have influence there. Making them hate us as much as Israel.

When much of what you’re being killed with comes from a certain country, that tends to “leave a mark”, so to speak.

This is a culture that has a long and vivid historical memory. We’re creating hostility that will last for generations.

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freetoken  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:56:03am

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

[…]

With the election of Barack Hussein Obama, the tacit acknowledgement of American exceptionalism came to an internationally viewed public end as Obama went around the world bowing and scraping and apologizing for America being what it is.

He berated our history, questioned our intentions and redefined our role in the world. America went from benefactor to meddler, from liberator to nation builder, from trustworthy friend to ill-intentioned acquaintance - all the while with a “What do I get out of it?” motive.

And he made no secret of the fact that he intended to bring this out of control behemoth to heel, to right the gross wrongs two centuries of capitalism has wrought, to make those who had been successful in this “unfair” system pay their “fair share” and to introduce the United States of America to the delights of European style socialism.

In his efforts to do so, as we all well know, he has doubled the National Debt, sent the demand for food stamps through the roof, exponentially increased the number of “disabled” workers on the federal dole, fostered the worst race relations since the civil rights struggle, reduced the number of fulltime workers, gave Iraq to ISIS, betrayed our only true ally in the Middle East (Israel) by signing a one-sided deal with Iran and the tale is still unfolding as to how Obamacare will effect health care - the juicier parts being withheld until he departs office in hopes of placing the blame on someone else.

[…]

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:56:07am

So, I pretty much called it on the Trump vaporware tax plan. Not that it takes much to be right on GOP tax plans.

It’s all trickle down, but this plan is astounding in its lack of critical information on which to score it compared to the existing tax code.

He says he’s slashing and burning the existing tax rates for everyone, including eliminating the AMT. Guess who benefits from that? If you guessed the rich, you’d be right. He’s cutting the top tax rate from 39% to 25%. Again, guess who wins with that?

He then claims that he’s going to eliminate certain deductions, but never specifies which ones. That’d be a critical part of scoring his plan.

If this was a test, he fails miserably.

But this isn’t a test. It’s platitudes that the Trump and GOP faithful will flock to because it includes magic words - tax cuts and eliminating the estate tax (though never specifying how to get to revenue neutrality on anything other than wishful thinking that cutting the corporate tax rate will bring a 1-shot windfall that eliminates inversions (even though corporate taxes are only a fraction of the income tax revenue collected by the IRS).

For the most recent year, business tax revenues were 353 billion ($353,141,112,000) versus 1.6 trillion for individual income tax ($1,614,213,171,000). Corporate taxes have become even less of a factor in recent years. In 1960, corporate taxes were a 1/3 of income tax revenue (32.8%). Today? It’s 17.6%. The tax burden is increasingly being shifted from corporations to everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:56:34am

re: #119 freetoken

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

Stick to music Charlie.

122
Varek Raith  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:58:15am

Oh dear, questions from the ‘media’.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:58:19am

re: #114 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

U.S. Ranks 3rd Worst on International Tax Competitiveness, Again

I can never remember anything about this organization

They’re generally accurate about tax rates and historical tax information, but seek reductions in tax rates across the board. Conservative bent. Useful for historical rate information and statistics, but they hope to reduce rates and tax burdens.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 8:59:45am

re: #111 freetoken

Missouri AG finds no evidence Planned Parenthood mishandled fetal tissue

He must be getting kickbacks from all those PP tissue transactions. Probably he’ll be able to buy a Lamborghini!

Damn liar!!! How could he deny the videos???!!!!

/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:00:35am

re: #119 freetoken

Funny how none of that bad stuff Daniels says has really happened. USA still has a strong economy, and better relations with most countries around the world than during the last administration. Our military is still tops. Where do these people get off saying America is in the tank, etc. etc.?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:01:08am

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s getting rid of some unnamed exemptions and dedctions:

So he’s going to make tax filing more confusing by phasing in and out deductions at different income levels?

127
Varek Raith  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:02:59am

It’s a good day for SCIENCE!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:03:00am

re: #125 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Funny how none of that bad stuff Daniels says has really happened. USA still has a strong economy, and better relations with most countries around the world than during the last administration. Our military is still tops. Where do these people get off saying America is in the tank, etc. etc.?

Because it has a secret Muslim atheist leftist communist Kenyan fascist President, that’s why!

129
Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:04:19am

GE plans to stop making engines in Waukesha
Move tied to politics likely to cost 350 local jobs

GE Power & Water says it plans to stop manufacturing gas engines in Waukesha and will move the work to Canada.

The company currently employs 350 at its Waukesha engine facility building gas engines for power generation applications.

GE plans to build a $265 million factory in Canada over the next 20 months.

The company blamed the Waukesha closure on Congress not reauthorizing the U.S. Export-Import Bank that finances the sale of industrial equipment.

“We believe in American manufacturing, but our customers in many cases require Export Credit Agencies financing for us to bid on projects. Without it, we cannot compete and our customers may be forced to select other providers. We know these announcements will have regrettable impact not only on our employees but on the hundreds of U.S. suppliers we work with that cannot move their facilities, but we cannot walk away from our customers,” John Rice, Vice Chairman, GE, said in a statement.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:04:26am

Sci-Fi and Fantasy Banned Books

&

Sci-Fi/Fantasy Authors Sound Off About Banned Books and Censorship

Kurt Vonnegut in A Man Without a Country

“And on the subject of burning books: I want to congratulate librarians, not famous for their physical strength or their powerful political connections or their great wealth, who, all over this country, have staunchly resisted anti-democratic bullies who have tried to remove certain books from their shelves, and have refused to reveal to thought police the names of persons who have checked out those titles.

So the America I loved still exists, if not in the White House or the Supreme Court or the Senate or the House of Representatives or the media. The America I love still exists at the front desks of our public libraries.”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:05:23am

re: #119 freetoken

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

I’d love a definition of “divine” from him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:06:05am

re: #131 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’d love a definition of “divine” from him.

Maybe he meant Divine intervention. //

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:07:32am

re: #124 ObserverArt

He must be getting kickbacks from all those PP tissue transaction. Probably he’ll be able to buy a Lamborghini!

Damn liar!!! How could he deny the videos???!!!!

/

The similarity with the Whacko Mooslims that say that same thing about Israel and harvesting body parts is uncanny —isn’t it.

Whackos all seem to have the same fears and paranoias

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:08:00am

re: #119 freetoken

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

He’s still butthurt from his Monday Night Football perma-ban.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:08:02am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because it has a secret Muslim atheist leftist communist Kenyan fascist President, that’s why!

Who will leave office in about a year and a quarter. They act like he’s got a lifetime appointment.

It’s all about his skin color and his “foreign” name. And his party. BHO makes a tidy, all-in-one package for haters — people who can’t understand that the USA is not 100% white, Anglo-Saxon (Evangelical/Pentecostal) Protestant men, and never was.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:09:13am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Who will leave office in about a year and a quarter. They act like he’s got a lifetime appointment.

It’s all about his skin color and his “foreign” name. And his party. BHO makes a tidy, all-in-one package for haters — people who can’t understand that the USA is not 100% white, Anglo-Saxon (Evangelical/Pentecostal) Protestant men, and never was.

he’ll be responsible for all bad things until the end-of-times.

/

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calochortus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:09:15am

re: #52 ObserverArt

I don’t know if you or other LGF members had a chance to watch Carly Fiorina on Meet The Press yesterday…but she absolutely refuses to acknowledge any of the facts about the PP videos. Here is a You Tube of the interview.

I just don’t get how she can hang her candidacy on an outright lie. It is either going to bring her down or the fact she is being this hard-headed will be good for her. And the only good I can see is she must think there are people that think everything PP is a total lie. The facts against her…lies. The media saying she is totally wrong…all liars.

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From Daily Kos: The source of Carly Fiorina’s fetus claim.
So my vote goes from “she must have combined two separate things in her mind” to “she’s flat out lying.” Not that she will ever get closer to the White House than taking a tour.

138
sagehen  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:09:51am

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trump promises to eliminate the inheritance tax. I can’t tell you what relief it is for me to know that my inheritors won’t be paying any taxes on the 2006 Subaru I’m leaving them.

So he’s giving each of his kids an extra 600,000,000?

Such an altruist.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:10:16am

re: #119 freetoken

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

Did anyone ever notice that over the years Charlie Daniels cowboy hat has gotten bigger and bigger. It’s to help contain all his bubba-infested bullshit.

Better go out and buy another one…

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:11:19am

re: #125 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Funny how none of that bad stuff Daniels says has really happened. USA still has a strong economy, and better relations with most countries around the world than during the last administration. Our military is still tops. Where do these people get off saying America is in the tank, etc. etc.?

My favorite line is when some wingnut posts a comment on some random facebook story, “Obama destroyed this country”.

141
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:12:28am

The only Charlie Daniels song I know is that one with the kid playing fiddle against the Devil. The first time I heard it, I thought, the Devil plays hard rock? And the kid’s fiddle playing is not that great. But it got plenty of air time, sadly.

The message was clearly rock = evil, country = good. And I have never listened to Charlie Daniels ever since..

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:13:14am

Some of the headlines from the Financial Times are interesting.

Saudi is withdrawing $70B from overseas funds

Shell abandons Arctic drilling campaign

Pope to feature in election campaign ads —I think this might be illegal?

143
Stanley Sea Toujours  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:13:38am

Putin’s stating Assad’s case right now.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:14:22am

re: #137 calochortus

From Daily Kos: The source of Carly Fiorina’s fetus claim.
So my vote goes from “she must have combined two separate things in her mind” to “she’s flat out lying.” Not that she will ever get closer to the White House than taking a tour.

Could you page that?

145
Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:15:32am

re: #141 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I always preferred Marshall Tucker to Charlie Daniels.

146
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:15:36am

re: #143 Stanley Sea Toujours

Putin’s stating Assad’s case right now.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:15:54am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Maybe he meant Divine intervention. //

This kinda “Divine intervention”?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:16:18am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

My favorite line is when some wingnut posts a comment on some random facebook story, “Obama destroyed this country”.

Right. America is in ruins. The cities have collapsed. Wall Street is shuttered. Raggedy children are wandering aimlessly, begging for food and shelter. Mexico is building a wall to keep illegals from America out. People from other countries have given up on the USA and gone home.

Yup. I saw all that this summer. Came back to China, I did.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:17:49am

re: #142 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Shell abandons Arctic drilling campaign

Hell yes they did. If they just wait around a few months that old ice will be permanently out of the way.

150
calochortus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:17:58am

re: #144 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Umm, I’ve never done a page and really don’t have time to figure it out right now-especially since I’m having trouble with LGF and the spinning beach ball of death for the last few days. If you would like to do it, go ahead. Otherwise I can try to do it this afternoon.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:18:01am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Maybe he meant Divine intervention. //

Thing is, “divine” tends to be identified after-the-fact.

The hurricane was divine intervention for all the sins of …

The plague was divine intervention for allowing the joos in …

The xxxx was divine intervention for whatever one is using to sell a particular brand of BS.

152
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:18:21am

I’m like super caffeinated right now and it’s already after midnight local time. Couple of friends asked me out to a coffeehouse around 8:30 pm, then another guy shows up and invites us to his tea house around the corner.

Bzzzzz.

Good thing I don’t have classes in the morning.

153
sizzzzlerz  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:19:54am

NASAs big press conference this morning has revealed that scientists are reporting finding liquid water molecules contained within ephemeral streaks of briny salts originating in the walls of several craters on the surface of Mars. These streaks appear during particular times over the course of a Martian year and then disappear, indicating these are happening now as opposed to being fossilized flows. Using spectroscopy from the Mars Orbiter, they identified several places in the spectra where the chemical nature of the streaks absorbed the light. They were able to identify the chemical makeup of the salts by searching for a similar absorption pattern across a variety of salt compounds.

It isn’t rivers or ponds of liquid water but it’s the first indication that there is water on Mars and the implications of that fact can be huge.

154
ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:20:38am

re: #134 Dr. Matt

He’s still butthurt from his Monday Night Football perma-ban.

I think that was the other bubba, C&W star Hank Williams Jr., wasn’t it?

Not like there is any difference…

155
calochortus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:21:48am

Anyhoo, I need to get going.
BBL

156
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:23:23am

Flowing Water found on Mars.

This is a pretty BFD.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:23:40am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

US, you have a lot to do w/ the creation of #ISIS …Cites invasion of Iraq/de-Baathification and collapse of Libya

.

He does have us on that one.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:24:27am

re: #153 sizzzzlerz

NASAs big press conference this morning has revealed that scientists are reporting finding liquid water molecules contained within ephemeral streaks of briny salts originating in the walls of several craters on the surface of Mars. These streaks appear during particular times over the course of a Martian year and then disappear, indicating these are happening now as opposed to being fossilized flows. Using spectroscopy from the Mars Orbiter, they identified several places in the spectra where the chemical nature of the streaks absorbed the light. They were able to identify the chemical makeup of the salts by searching for a similar absorption pattern across a variety of salt compounds.

It isn’t rivers or ponds of liquid water but it’s the first indication that there is water on Mars and the implications of that fact can be huge.

And where there’s water, there’s the chance for life.

159
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:25:20am

Putin is essentially claiming that Russia is the only country fighting terrorism in the ME.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:25:47am

I’m working on a new page: “God as a weapon”.

I think you guys will like it.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:25:57am

re: #154 ObserverArt

I think that was the other bubba, C&W star Hank Williams Jr., wasn’t it?

Not like there is any difference…

Good call. You’re correct. All rednecks look alike to me. :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:26:13am

re: #157 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Indeed he does.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:27:07am

re: #158 lawhawk

And where there’s water, there’s the chance for life.

Dumb and Dumber ‘There’s a Chance’

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:27:24am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

This kinda “Divine intervention”?

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I went down a rabbit hole and found this bunny:

Matthew Sweet & John Hiatt - Divine Intervention VH1.mp4

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:28:29am

re: #158 lawhawk

And where there’s water, there’s the chance for life.

But, as the BBC tells it, we can’t sterilize our spacecraft well enough to guarantee non-contamination of martian water sources. So, we may not be able to sample those water sources for signs of biotic activity.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:28:43am

re: #161 Dr. Matt

That’s why they still can’t track down that Muslim-hating dude at the Trump rally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:30:20am

Pretty sure that should be three inches an hour…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:30:36am

re: #158 lawhawk

And where there’s water, there’s the chance for life.

Indeed. And, even the simplest, single-celled Martian would throw the fundies into a tailspin.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:32:32am

Monday Cuteness
Pet piglets oinking

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:34:11am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coming down faster than it can run off. That used to just ruin my whole day down in South Texas. Did you know that an empty dumpster will float like a cork?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:35:23am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:36:03am

re: #168 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Indeed. And, even the simplest, single-celled Martian would throw the fundies into a tailspin.

Nah. They’d just attribute it to the Divine Creator. Finding multi-cellular, mobile creatures might unsettle them, though, especially if it looked un-earthly.

But the idea of extraterrestrial life would be a major event in our understanding of our place in the universe. If two planets could spawn life, then surely it exists elsewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:37:16am

re: #170 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Coming down faster than it can run off. That used to just ruin my whole day down in South Texas. Did you know that an empty dumpster will float like a cork?

I tweeted them questioning the rainfall rate and they fixed the tweet.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:39:00am

re: #168 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Indeed. And, even the simplest, single-celled Martian would throw the fundies into a tailspin.

Yeah, they’d have to build Reagan’s Star Wars - - - We should have increased the Defense Budget long ago for this

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:39:06am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

I tweeted them questioning the rainfall rate and they fixed the tweet.

Yeah, 3 feet/hour might be a bit of a problem. You’d have more than just floating dumpsters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:40:25am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, 3 feet/hour might be a bit of a problem. You’d have more than just floating dumpsters.

yep.
Three inches/hour is still pretty impressive.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:41:37am

A 1930 Ruxton Model C, as shown recently at the Amelia Island Concours. The Ruxton was a front wheel drive car that debuted the same year as the Cord L-29.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:42:06am

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

The TP might show them who is boss but there will be a high price to pay.

As long as other people pay the price the teahadis are fine with that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:42:21am

Japanese city Joso got 19 inches in a 24-hour period. Town is a mess now.

bbc.com

Meanwhile, typhoon Dujuan has hit Taiwan, bringing heavy winds and rain.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:42:27am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:42:58am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

I tweeted them questioning the rainfall rate and they fixed the tweet.

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So, divine intervention would move that rain to California?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:43:14am

re: #177 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A 1930 Ruxton Model C, as shown recently at the Amelia Island Concours. The Ruxton was a front wheel drive car that debuted the same year as the Cord L-29.

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I want.

I’d settle for a Cord L-29, or a coffin-nose model, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:43:26am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:44:30am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:45:47am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:46:44am

OK. Maybe the caffeine is wearing off. I’m going to try to go to sleep now. Laterz.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:48:25am

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I want.

I’d settle for a Cord L-29, or a coffin-nose model, though.

Note the interesting headlights. Ruxton used Woodlight headlights. The shell of the headlight was polished inside to focus every bit of light into a tighter beam, thus the cats’ eye lenses.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:48:32am

re: #184 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Aretha sang for the Pope?
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Being Pope ain’t worth nothin’ if you can’t get Aretha to sing for you.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:48:47am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

But, as the BBC tells it, we can’t sterilize our spacecraft well enough to guarantee non-contamination of martian water sources. So, we may not be able to sample those water sources for signs of biotic activity.

Isn’t there some law —like Schroedinger’s that says something along those lines?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:49:21am

re: #168 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Indeed. And, even the simplest, single-celled Martian would throw the fundies into a tailspin.

I thought they already found alien microbes somewhere —like 10 years ago.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:50:34am

re: #186 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK. Maybe the caffeine is wearing off. I’m going to try to go to sleep now. Laterz.

I wish, I have guys here installing a new furnace and air conditioner.

A surprise expense —oh yeah!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:50:49am

re: #188 wrenchwench

Being Pope ain’t worth nothin’ if you can’t get Aretha to sing for you.

true

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:52:51am

re: #184 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I was there. She was supposed to sing Amazing Grace. I kept waiting for her to stop warming up and sing the song, but the next thing I knew she was done.

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Lidane  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:53:34am
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Jenner7  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:53:58am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:54:10am

re: #190 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I thought they already found alien microbes somewhere —like 10 years ago.

IIRC, they found a meteorite with some complex carbon compounds embedded in it. They weren’t life though they were sufficiently complex be an early precursor to life.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:55:47am

re: #193 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I was there. She was supposed to sing Amazing Grace. I kept waiting for her to stop warming up and sing the song, but the next thing I knew she was done.

Maybe she didn’t want to make the President’s recent performance (in South Carolina) look bad.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:55:51am

re: #119 freetoken

American loon sez:

Charlie Daniels: ‘This Phase of Our History Will Only End Well with Divine Intervention’

ODS - plays with the devil on a fiddle.

Willie Nelson and merle Haggard on the end of the world:

Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard - It’s All Going to Pot

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Citizen Bob  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:56:51am

re: #7 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

>The brainwashed fundamentalists of the xtian flavor don’t give a damn what the people want or think.

>They are the annointed. They know what is best. People are just there for them to manipulate to serve god’s will.

———
GOP: Folks, we have to shut down PP because our God (your God) told us to. They’re “evil”.
Folks: Yay!
GOP: Also the rest of government is so corrupted that they just don’t get it. They forced us to lie just to get the point across, but even so, it’s hopeless. We’re gonna have to drown it and start over.
Folks: Yay?
GOP: No more welfare. Red states are the welfare states, but you didn’t want that welfare because it’s tainted with baby’s blood. And so is public education.
Folks: Where do we turn?
GOP: The Church, silly!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:59:05am

re: #198 BlueSpotinAL

Willie Nelson and merle Haggard on the end of the world:

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Video

Looks like the old Sixties mantra, “Just be higher than the bomb when the bomb goes off,” may come back into fashion.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 28, 2015 • 9:59:22am

re: #194 Lidane

Hmm. Maybe Francis got (through) to him.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:00:20am

re: #188 wrenchwench

Being Pope ain’t worth nothin’ if you can’t get Aretha to sing for you.

It gave her a chance to really feel the gospel music she grew up with and came from.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:01:10am
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Kragar  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:01:58am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:02:43am

re: #203 wrenchwench

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Charles!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:02:57am

re: #204 Kragar

Trump must have built that wall.

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Lidane  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:03:20am

re: #198 BlueSpotinAL

One of my co-workers bought these on Etsy the other day:

The Highwaymen Prayer Candle set

I am amused. I might even buy a set for myself.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:04:30am

And LOL at Carly asking people way out in the audience if they were hurt. Like she actually cares.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:05:58am

re: #207 Lidane

One of my co-workers bought these on Etsy the other day:

The Highwaymen Prayer Candle set

I am amused. I might even buy a set for myself.

Now this is a conundrum; I can’t decide whether those candles are good in an awful way or awful in a good way.

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:06:28am

re: #208 GlutenFreeJesus

And LOL at Carly asking people way out in the audience if they were hurt. Like she actually cares.

GOP compassion flowchart:

1) Are people actually hurt? Yes: go to 4, No: go to 2
2) Will expressing compassion cost you anything? Yes: go to 4, No: go to 3
3) Express compassion
4) SQUIRREL!

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Lidane  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:07:35am

re: #209 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Now this is a conundrum; I can’t decide whether those candles are good in an awful way or awful in a good way.

I think they’re perfect for a night when some good weed is making the rounds. Heh.

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:07:35am
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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:07:42am

Charles Johnson,

This is great news! If GOP shuts the government down over Planned Parenthood now, they’ll hurt their chances come next election, which isn’t that far off.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:08:00am

the Problem with Mini-Pigs —NatGeo

Rich Hoyle, a 20-year sanctuary veteran who founded The Pig Preserve in Jamestown, Tennessee, eight years ago, says he’s seeing more rescued minis with congenital problems—such as deep recessed eyes, males born with retained testicles, and females born without an anus—because of poor breeding practices. On many rescues, the herd of 50 to 100 pigs he encounters are descended from one pair of siblings.

“These poor inbred and half-starved pigs are inundating sanctuaries,” says Hoyle. “Probably 90 percent of the so-called micro pigs”—that’s one of the mini-pig’s many nicknames; others include teacup pigs and pocket pigs—“will either be dead or in a sanctuary before they are two years old.”

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:09:35am

re: #213 CriticalDragon1177

This is great news! If GOP shuts the government down over Planned Parenthood now, they’ll hurt their chances come next election, which isn’t that far off.

Er…don’t bet on it. The GOP was handsomely REWARDED in 2014 for their gov-shutdown crap.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:11:52am

re: #215 Interesting Times

Er…don’t bet on it. The GOP was handsomely REWARDED in 2014 for their gov-shutdown crap.

I hope this time Hillary is rewarded. Could happen.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:12:26am

I gotta admit, I’m kind of embarrassed to admit I fell for this, and didn’t realize it was a satire, but you gotta admit, it does kind of sound like something old Pat would say, doesn’t it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:12:31am

re: #213 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

This is great news! If GOP shuts the government down over Planned Parenthood now, they’ll hurt their chances come next election, which isn’t that far off.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:13:21am

re: #215 Interesting Times

Er…don’t bet on it. The GOP was handsomely REWARDED in 2014 for their gov-shutdown crap.

Yes, but that was a mid-term election. Historically low voter turn-out.

and women were pissed enough to vote and affect the election in 2012

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:13:53am

You know if I were running a political party, I know I would definitely want:

A gagglefuck of idiots tearing into each other and looking like morons on televised debates

To be known as the driving force behind an unpopular government shutdown because I won’t let go of a known hoax

To replace one and possibly 2 of my parties senior Congressional leaders, most likely with a rabid loon, when people are already upset with Congress

and all in the months leading up to a major election

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:13:58am

re: #217 CriticalDragon1177

I gotta admit, I’m kind of embarrassed to admit I fell for this, and didn’t realize it was a satire, but you gotta admit, it does kind of sound like something old Pat would say, doesn’t it?

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It does sound like something he would say since it’s exactly what his like minded co-religionists did do in Uganda.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:14:09am

Incredible News, from Mars!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:14:20am

re: #215 Interesting Times

Er…don’t bet on it. The GOP was handsomely REWARDED in 2014 for their gov-shutdown crap.

So far, the electorate has punished GOP excess with Congressional majorities. It would be unsurprising if it inflicted the White House on them.

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Lidane  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:15:09am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:15:48am
WE ARE NOT GOING BACK
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:16:17am

re: #224 Lidane

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What about a future population without immigrants.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:16:36am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rand Paul=hare brained. This is a redundancy.

Discuss.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:16:59am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The chemicals he’s using for his Jheri curl have leeched into his brain I think.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:17:09am

re: #224 Lidane

At the same time, whites will become less than half the population by 2055.

That will be difficult for me because I’ll be 107 then and even slower to adapt.

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CriticalDragon1177  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:18:08am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Off course Rand Paul is going to try to blame their actions on the Democrats when people could get mad at them, for being little babies.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:18:34am

re: #196 Higgs Boson’s Mate

IIRC, they found a meteorite with some complex carbon compounds embedded in it. They weren’t life though they were sufficiently complex be an early precursor to life.

Martian meteorite ALH 84001, found in Antarctica, had chemical signs of life, inclusions that sure look like microfossils of bacteria-like entities, and strings of magnetite grains like the ones bacteria use to determine their orientation. It was announced by David McKay’s group at NASA in 1996.

The denial industry immediately got on the case, and have skewed the consensus into rejecting the evidence—again. Just like the Viking results.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:18:39am

re: #229 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That will be difficult for me because I’ll be 107 then and even slower to adapt.

But you’ll be turning brown!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:19:02am

re: #224 Lidane

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And that is exactly is what Trump takes advantage of fear of. It’s the fear of a different US.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:21:49am

Under Pressure From Anti-Choice Lawmakers, University of Missouri Ends Admitting Privileges

The University of Missouri, capitulating to political pressure from anti-choice Republican state lawmakers, will discontinue hospital privileges for a physician who in July allowed the Planned Parenthood clinic in Columbia, Missouri to be licensed by the state to resume abortions.

I wonder if this is related to this.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:22:28am

re: #229 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You’ll adapt just fine.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:23:58am

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Martian meteorite ALH 84001, found in Antarctica, had chemical signs of life, inclusions that sure look like microfossils of bacteria-like entities, and strings of magnetite grains like the ones bacteria use to determine their orientation. It was announced by David McKay’s group at NASA in 1996.

The denial industry immediately got on the case, and have skewed the consensus into rejecting the evidence—again. Just like the Viking results.

I was thinking of something from after 2000.

Headlines said alien life, but further reading said “microbes”. I had a xtian friend who was concerned. I had to explain it to her.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:24:36am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh, After Rand explains he is in the campaign for the GOP presidential candidate, the news dude says “So, you’re going nowhere, right?”

Hey Rand…take his advice. You are going nowhere. Hopefully that includes back to your Senate office after you fall out of the race.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:26:49am

Behind the Lens: Photographing the President at a Federal Prison

“I met with a group of prisoners, and what was striking was the degree to which so many of these young people…had been serving time for mistakes they had made during their youth…

They weren’t so different from me

“I made mistakes when I was young. I didn’t always follow a straight path. The primary difference between me and them was I had more of a cushion. I had second chances. In some cases, I had resources or I was in an environment in which when I made a mistake as a teen, that I could recover from it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:34:19am

Wait, Bush and Cheney are Int’l criminals? for real?
esquire.com

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Lidane  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:34:21am

No one could have predicted:

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:34:24am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:34:46am

Puppies are napping on the couch next to me.

I want to snoooz so badly.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:34:52am

re: #240 Lidane

No one could have predicted:

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Noooooooooo. //

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:35:19am

re: #240 Lidane

No one could have predicted:

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because trickle down works, dmat!

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:35:48am

re: #240 Lidane

No one could have predicted:

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Who are the “we” who have been played for suckers? Idiot journalists who lack rudimentary arithmetic and critical thinking skills?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:35:54am

Trickle down is actually a great name for it. The ultra rich pee on you and tell you it’s great.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:36:00am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:36:03am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul Unveils Harebrained Scheme To Blame Democrats For Government Shutdown t.co via @politicususa #p2 #p2b #ctl
— PoliticusUSA (@politicususa) September 28, 2015

Translation: They are continuing with status quo.

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:36:25am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Trickle down is actually a great name for it. The ultra rich pee on you and tell you it’s great.

re: #247 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Not just water, but SALTY water?

I love the internet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:36:49am

re: #245 iossarian

Who are the “we” who have been played for suckers? Idiot journalists who lack rudimentary arithmetic and critical thinking skills?

Yeah that the guy who brags about his wealth has a tax plan that greatly benefits the wealthy……….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:36:57am

LOL!!!

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Monday that he’s far from finished as a presidential candidate.

While Paul has tumbled in the polls, he told CNN that he has no intention of taking up Donald Trump’s suggestion that he suspend his campaign.

“By no means am I finished,” he told host Alisyn Camerota on CNN’s “New Day.” “I’m just getting started.”

“We wouldn’t do all this if we were planning on dropping out,” Paul said, citing his campaign’s outreach in key voting states and on college campuses nationwide.

“I think we’ll be around just as long as Trump, if not longer,” the Kentucky lawmaker added.

Paul then argued that Trump, who is leading the polls, is not a suitable choice for the Republican presidential coronation in 2016.

“How can anyone in my party think this clown is fit to be president?” he asked Camerota. “How did we get the race for the most important office in the free world to sink to such low depths?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:37:25am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!!!

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I don’t think so Randy.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:39:26am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:39:28am

re: #240 Lidane

I’ve been saying that since the “plan” came out.

It’s nearly impossible to find someone who’d end up having to pay more with Trump’s plan based on the lack of specificity about the deductions and loopholes that would be closed, but there’s not enough of either that would make Trump’s plan revenue neutral.

But the same plan would end up being a boon to rich folks, who’d see their rates drop by nearly a third. From 39.6% to 25%. Cap gains would likewise drop to 20%. Note too that there’s nothing specific that would impose higher taxes on hedge funds either. They’d benefit from the same tax cuts everyone else was.

Oh, and corporations would see big tax cuts too - as their official rate would be slashed.

They and the rich would be the big winners in the tax scheme Trump fever dreamed up.

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rtth  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:40:31am

Some caveats about the Quinnipiac poll: I couldn’t find any info about the people surveyed but I think it was showing an equal number of people blaming Obama/Democrats for a hypothetical shutdown over this issue.

Some of the Republicans who say they are opposed to a shutdown also demand that PP be defunded and feel Obama is obliged to sign a budget that does so. They are ‘objectively pro-shutdown’ while saying they are not.

In the last Quinnipiac poll, the one that purported to show Carson beating Clinton by 7 points nationally, 57% of its respondents identified as Republicans, and they were clearly oversampling land lines, so this poll may or may not mean something. Right now Q-pac isn’t on my good side.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:41:36am

I wonder how many men (GOP-type) have never seen an ultrasound being performed —or will really looking at Carly’s tits.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:41:37am

Candidate with helicopter sees no urgency about raising taxes for infrastructure spending.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:41:54am

re: #240 Lidane

No one could have predicted:

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Damn all those poor wanting the government to do stuff for them.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:43:05am

re: #257 jaunte

Wait, Christie doesn’t have a helicopter. And he is blocking any increase on the gas tax without a tax cut elsewhere, even though the state’s infrastructure is a mess.

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iossarian  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:44:03am

Vote for Iossarian I will give you lots of money, make the country great, not take any shit from brown people and build a super anti-terrorist pleasure palace with free admission for all and bud light-flavored ice cream dispensers.

… six months pass …

“Media Played For Fools By Iossarian’s Election Promises As Economy Collapses”

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:45:14am

re: #259 lawhawk

I forgot, he just uses the state police helicopters!
nj.com

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:45:49am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:46:43am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:47:26am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:47:45am

Water on Mars.

Specificity is key. As jaunte saw above, you’ve got to be specific who you’re referring to. Avoids all kinds of problems.

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:47:56am

Every GOP tax plan

1) Cut Taxes
2) blame minor programs which aid the poor and vulnerable as to why revenue is down
3) spend $$$ on worthless BS to keep donors happy

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:48:35am

re: #265 lawhawk

Water on Mars.

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Specificity is key. As jaunte saw above, you’ve got to be specific who you’re referring to. Avoids all kinds of problems.

I bet it’s salty

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:48:43am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:48:43am

Hi guys.

Did I miss anything?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:49:27am

re: #269 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hi guys.

Did I miss anything?

Trump wants America to look like India with miles and miles of people living in corregated metal huts and orphans on their own.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:50:06am

re: #270 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump wants America to look like India with miles and miles of people living in corregated metal huts and orphans on their own.

So, pretty much like it was before I left.

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:50:34am

re: #263 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

funny, I was just thinking of posting something Doctor related with the water on Mars thing. Like I said yesterday, my years of science fiction fandom tells me nothing good follows “we’ve discovered water on Mars.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:50:38am

re: #268 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Uh no.

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BeachDem  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:51:24am

re: #64 ObserverArt

Well, when you need to get riled up…I am pretty sure that video will do it!

It sure stunned me yesterday.

Too bad Chuck Todd allowed her to buffalo him. When she asked him if he believed PP doesn’t do real late term abortions to harvest human tissue he should have simply said he doesn’t believe they do from the information he had. That would have forced her to continue to lie or come clean. Instead by him not contesting, it comes off to the RWNJs like she sure shut up Todd, we need a hard liner that sticks to her guns and takes on those lying media types.

Chuck Todd sucks. But he will now have “MTP Daily” at 5 PM (Eastern) daily on MSNBC. More suckage. It must be popular.

Chuck Todd challenge a rightwinger? Surely you jest! Instead of saying, “Haven’t you exaggerated the PP video,” he SHOULD have said, “You’re a fucking liar, Carly.” But then, he wouldn’t have been Chuck Todd.

SPIT.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:52:08am

re: #269 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hi guys.

Did I miss anything?

Trump is going to build a a good-looking wall…because the current ones are ugly and small.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:52:14am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:52:16am

re: #271 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So, pretty much like it was before I left.

Yup.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:53:58am

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

Yup.

Always nice to know I can tune out the world for a week and it won’t end on me.

Did the Aladdin show at California Adventures yesterday and Genie insulted Donald Trump and Kanye. Also Tom Brady. I laughed pretty damn hard.

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BeachDem  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:54:34am

re: #83 lawhawk

This isn’t a plan so much as platitudes for the ill-informed.

And those very folks will suck it up like a Hoover. (And Chuck Todd will nod his head and stroke his beard.)

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:54:50am

re: #274 BeachDem

Chuck Todd……the “journalist” that claimed Alison Lundergan Grimes “disqualified herself” for not answering a question….

Yup. Enough said.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:55:13am

re: #271 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So, pretty much like it was before I left.

Well, I think the earth may have moved it’s annual rotation round the sun and stuff like that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:55:40am

re: #281 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, I think the earth may have moved it’s annual rotation round the sun and stuff like that.

I caught the tail end of the eclipse from the airplane!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:56:00am

POTUS AND FLOTUS addressed the UN Gen Asses today?

Did anything important get said?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:56:09am

re: #282 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I caught the tail end of the eclipse from the airplane!

kewl!

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:56:10am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Well, just like we learned that corporations are people (my friend), we also know that money is speech. And for some, a religion.

I mean, I could almost understand the “I can’t go to my neighbor’s holiday party if he’s a lobbyist” if it wasn’t so facially stupid. The law’s been on the books for 23 years and I’m guessing there’s been a grand total of zero indictments for such a case.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:56:28am

That version sucked.

Here is the official
David Bowie – Space Oddity [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:57:09am

re: #278 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Always nice to know I can tune out the world for a week and it won’t end on me.

Did the Aladdin show at California Adventures yesterday and Genie insulted Donald Trump and Kanye. Also Tom Brady. I laughed pretty damn hard.

Superbloodmoon came and went, and we’re all still here.

Unless this is the afterlife, in which case I’m disappointed to still have this old fat guy body and not be restored to the Adonis-like body of my youth. You’d think they could at least do THAT for an afterlife.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:57:26am

new level constructed - - - - ->

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:57:55am

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

if the afterlife has bills and student loan debt, I’m burning it down.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:57:59am

re: #286 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Going to see him at Austin City Limits this weekend. Sooooo psyched. Never got a chance when I was younger.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:59:05am

re: #283 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

POTUS AND FLOTUS addressed the UN Gen Asses today?

Did anything important get said?

Oh,I’m sure Obama bowed to SOME foreign potentate. And Michelle wore clothes that were too expensive, or weren’t expensive enough, or threatened to force children to eat Kale. Mind you, if it were in the form of Portugese kale and potato supe, I’d eat it by the trough.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2015 • 10:59:59am

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

If this is the afterlife, why did I have to do my 30 minutes on the torture machine this morning?

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2015 • 11:01:06am

re: #286 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

That version sucked.

Here is the official
[Embedded content]

The other one was before makeup! It was great!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 28, 2015 • 11:01:39am

If the after life doesn’t include free weed and all the dogs you want—then I’m not in it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2015 • 11:15:06am

re: #294 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

If the after life doesn’t include free weed and all the dogs you want ever had —then I’m not in it.

FTFY

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Sep 28, 2015 • 12:15:19pm

re: #219 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yes, but that was a mid-term election. Historically low voter turn-out.

and women were pissed enough to vote and affect the election in 2012

NEVER take Democratic turnout for granted.

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Tigger2  Sep 28, 2015 • 12:49:07pm

re: #215 Interesting Times

Er…don’t bet on it. The GOP was handsomely REWARDED in 2014 for their gov-shutdown crap.

That was a mid term election. not as many people vote.


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