Will the wingnuts pick up on the implication that prayer doesn’t work?

I LOVE this President.

I’m so glad he said this is something we should politicize.

Every time I hear the “only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” refrain from the gunfuckers I think about this recent story:

Houston police responded to a shooting call around 11:15 p.m. Saturday at a Valero gas station on Jensen Drive at Reid Street in north Houston. Officials say two men jumped another man in the gas station parking lot and took the victim’s Chevrolet pickup truck. Police say a witness then pulled out a gun and began shooting at the suspects, accidentally hitting the carjacking victim in the head.

KHOU.com

Shooter picked up the brass and fled the scene. So very glad there was a good guy with a gun there. Wonder why the shooter didn’t hang around for a pat on the back?

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@RunningPaladin2 @Lib_Librarian Because no Christian has ever been a mass shooter, right? Go eat a back of dicks, you fuck.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 1, 2015

This is so going to send the GOP clown car doing wheelies.

re: #6 freetoken

You should be ashamed of yourself, Mr. President.

— toddstarnes (@toddstarnes) October 1, 2015

re: #7 jaunte

How to tell Obama is giving an excellent speech.

In case you haven’t noticed, there have been a hell of a lot more than just one mass shooting @NRA #DefundtheNRA

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 1, 2015

Imagine if Donald Trump had to come out every 3-5 weeks and make this kind of a statement. This kind of shit is not going to quit after Obama is out of office. The new president will have to deal with this too.

Teacher who told 4-year-old that being left-handed was evil and sinister resigns

Oklahoma Pre-K teacher allegedly calls being left-handed ‘evil’ and ‘sinister’

Ok. I am now, officially, afraid of the Christian Taliban.

This wasn’t some whacky isolated private/parochial school. It was a public school setting.

re: #5 Kragar

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re: #11 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Fortunately it was publicized and the religious nut was forced out.

re: #11 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Teacher who told 4-year-old that being left-handed was evil and sinister resigns

Oklahoma Pre-K teacher allegedly calls being left-handed ‘evil’ and ‘sinister’

Ok. I am now, officially, afraid of the Christian Taliban.

This wasn’t some whacky isolated private/parochial school. It was a public school setting.

Of course it was a public school. She had to resign, as oppose to getting a raise and a performance bonus.

re: #7 jaunte

Todd Starns can go bite a fart. Dink.

“It’ll take a lot more than one disturbed individual”

Umpqua Community College shooting is 41st school shooting this year. @PeteWilliamsNBC reports now #NBCNightlyNews pic.twitter.com/QkwfzdZT2C

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) October 1, 2015

re: #9 Kragar

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I blocked @NRA and reported them. Just for the hell of it.

The NRA encourages murder and all members are responsible.

I was taking a break one sunny day and sat down to enjoy a cool drink when BLAM somebody blew my fucking brains out. Do you think I give a shit whether the wingnuts fret about politicizing me?

Florida Legislature Currently Considering Allowing Guns On Campus

TALLAHASSEE | The fatal shooting of at least seven people at an Oregon community college is now yet another example of a school shooting that both supporters and opponents of proposed campus carry legislation in Florida will point to when making their case.

The Legislature is considering measures that would allow people with concealed weapon permits to bring their firearms on public college and university campuses. Senate Bill 68 and House Bill 4001 have each passed one committee in their respective chambers, largely along party lines.

45 school shootings since January pic.twitter.com/iq5XHXagIJ

— Alexander C. Kaufman (@AlexCKaufman) October 1, 2015

Or 45.

re: #19 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I was taking a break one sunny day and sat down to enjoy a cool drink when <emp>BLAM</emp> somebody blew my fucking brains out. Do you think I give a shit whether the wingnuts fret about politicizing me?

Great point and I want to declare right now

If I’m ever the victim of a mass shooting please feel free to politicize the ever loving shit out of it

re: #21 jaunte

It’s eerie to see both summer break and spring break reflected in the chart.

re: #21 jaunte

Isn’t the color wrong for today’s shooting?

You should go eat a bag of #dicks Todd. .@toddstarnes

— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) October 1, 2015

Donald Trump told the Washington Post, the shooting was “absolutely a terrible tragedy.”

“It sounds like another mental health problem. So many of these people, they’re coming out of the woodwork,” Trump said, the Washington Post reported. “We have to really get to the bottom of it. It’s so hard to even talk about these things, because you see them and it’s such a tragedy.”

access to firearms has nothing to do with it …

re: #7 jaunte

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Hey gun humpers, you try calling those parents who’s kids are not getting of the bus. Obama has to do that.

They separate themselves so far from the grief & carnage. While other more empathetic people feel the pain.

puke

re: #24 freetoken

Yes, should be orange.

re: #14 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Of course it was a public school. She had to resign, as oppose to getting a raise and a performance bonus.

It used to be, IIRC, the nuns in RC schools who did this—up until the late 50’s or early 60’s.

HURR HURR TYRANNY!!!!!!11!!

Yes Mr. President, the responsible gun owners followed the law and didn’t take their guns to school today.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) October 1, 2015

I will say it’s clarifying to see the president admit to willfully politicizing an event so he can confiscate guns of law-abiding people.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) October 1, 2015

If only the NRA hadn’t personally hand-crafted a gun and left it at the foot of the shooter’s bed with a note that said “kill them bro.”

— Caleb Howe (@CalebHowe) October 1, 2015

re: #22 mr.fusion

Put it in your will.

I don’t remember there being so many domestic mass shootings when George Bush was President. Why was that exactly?

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) October 1, 2015

Does giving Mexican cartels guns stop violence? Asking for a friend @EricHolder

— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) October 1, 2015

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

because there was no need to put the living fear of everyone having their guns confiscated and rounded up into FEMA camps because the majority of voters at the polls put a black man into office.

BTW, there is no ‘gun debate’ in America. The gun fetishists and NRA have already won.

— Patrick (@QuadCityPat) October 1, 2015

re: #26 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

access to firearms has nothing to do with it …

Maybe his idea is mental institutions! Round them up.

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t remember there being so many domestic mass shootings when George Bush was President. Why was that exactly?

Now the unstable can be more easily whipped into a killing frenzy by cynics like Erick.

re: #35 wrenchwench

Yes. Wingnuts don’t fret. They use giant piles of money to put their boots on our neck.

.@POTUS is correct. States with strongest gun laws=lowest rates of gun violence: http://t.co/KRqZn3GPly #UCCShooting pic.twitter.com/uxm0CzXumj

— CAP Guns (@CAPgunsandcrime) October 1, 2015

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

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Gosh, you don’t suppose it has to do with things like all the extra guns and ammo that have been sold since 2008, to a bunch of tiny-dicked assholes who need more guns to protect the guns they bought to protect their other guns?

re: #7 jaunte

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Of course @toddstarnes is a far-right crazy person. If he says Obama should be ashamed, Obama must have done something really good.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 1, 2015

Obama wanted news organizations to put gun deaths and terror deaths side-by-side. We did. http://t.co/Nhox2fBijv pic.twitter.com/Jf26cjo3mI

— Philip Bump (@pbump) October 1, 2015

re: #7 jaunte

Someone get a tranq dart, Todd Starnes slipped his leash and is in traffic again https://t.co/Vkd7HvqgrN

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 1, 2015

I thought that was suppose to happen in the 1st term along with the #Femacamps. .@seanmdav

— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) October 1, 2015

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

@seanmdav “confiscate guns of law abiding people” Sean Davis is lying, must be a day ending in “Y”

— gocart mozart (@attymix1) October 1, 2015

So apparently the latest talking point is that the problem isn’t guns (naturally), or the fall back claim of a mentally-ill lone wolf. Nope, it’s apparently Obama’s fault.

But then, what isn’t?

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re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

What is heartbreaking about people like this is that even if his own child was a victim in a situation like this, it wouldn’t move his empty, blackened heart one bit. In fact, he’d likely double down and buy more guns.

Like I said earlier, I live in an area where I see people open carrying and nearly everyone I know has at least one firearm, usually more. We have a hunting rifle, unloaded and I hate it being here. Why? Because I have had guns pointed at my face before. I don’t object to people owning them, but honestly, it’s got to the point that it’s become a fetish for a lot of people and those are the very people that shouldn’t be anywhere near a butter knife, let alone a gun. And after all the personal trauma I’ve experienced, I still don’t think the answer is to arm myself and be scared all the time. NOPE. That would mean the people who victimized me won. Oh Hell to the Hell NO.

re: #46 A Cranky One

So apparently the latest talking point is that the problem isn’t guns (naturally), or the fall back claim of a mentally-ill lone wolf. Nope, it’s apparently Obama’s fault.

But then, what isn’t?

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Well, it would have gotten there eventually. His statement just sped up the process, allowing us to jump those other stops.

According to the source close to the investigation, authorities are looking at social media posts between a person they believe may have been the shooter, and others.

The conversation happened Wednesday night on 4chan.

In it, the writer talks about planning to carry out a shooting. Others egg him on, giving him suggestions on how to do it, and the type of weapons to use.

The responses are mixed — with some users characterizing the would-be gunman as a pathetic loser. Others called him a twisted hero.

I really wouldn’t mind data mining for this type of conversation.

No one alerted law enforcement?

re: #36 Stanley Sea Toujours

Maybe his idea is mental institutions! Round them up.

I think extreme paranoia, like that demonstrated by stocking up on guns and ammo and carrying a military grade weapon to Walmart, is a distinct symptom of a mental illness. Let’s begin there by protecting them, their families, and communities.

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

@EWErickson Is it because the sociopaths were happier with Bush as President or do you have another theory?

— gocart mozart (@attymix1) October 1, 2015

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

Because assholes like you have been egging on whackjobs for the last 7 years? @EWErickson

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 1, 2015

I really think sexual frustration is at the base of the conservative psyche. They constantly go on about the SLUTS!!1! when their definition of “slut” is any woman who refuses to sleep with them. They need guns because it’s their only appendage that they get to use.

re: #42 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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It’s ok if we kill our own

The US has the most heavily armed civilian population in the First World. Are we safer for it? No. #UCCShooting https://t.co/aEFHKpZgMw

— L.A. Times Opinion (@latimesopinion) October 1, 2015

re: #49 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I really wouldn’t mind data mining for this type of conversation.

No one alerted law enforcement?

It’s 4chan. I’d be surprised if a lot of the people there were able to tie their own shoes.

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

@EWErickson A lot of nuts bought guns because the #NRA put a fantasy in their heads that guns were going away. Gun nuts would nvr allow tht

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 1, 2015

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

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re: #49 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I think there’s a couple of things at play here. One being that most of the people on those message boards are full of bravado and not much else, except shit. The ones who are know they are and they consider it blowing off steam and strutting around more than being serious. The ones that are serious wouldn’t rat each other out, out of a sense of being kindred spirits. There’s a sickness being nurtured there, which is one of the dark sides of the internet.

It might behoove law enforcement to send in a person or two undercover in some of these places, just to monitor the goings on. They do it on other places online, no reason they couldn’t with this too, with guidelines in place (like not entrapping people, just observing the conversations more than participating, etc).

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

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Because the Iraq war drove ammo prices through the roof.

You know, why don’t some of you with Twitter accounts ask the god botherer types what would be more in line with Christian teachings, what Obama has said or what they are saying?

Remind them their God is watching, and taking names.

Go after their beliefs. Don’t give them the opportunity to tune you out as a crazy with anything less. Make them fuckers think. It is something they never do. Maybe that’ll hit ‘em where they hurt.

Besides. They already ingest a lot more crap than bags of dicks!

re: #61 ObserverArt

They don’t really care.

There are self-described “progressive” Christians who would agree with you, but if they already do that then they’re probably not tweeting stupid things.

re: #57 No Country For Old Haters

fbi.gov

FBI Totals for homicides, by year
2001- 16,037 (excluding 9/11)
2002- 16,229
2003- 16,528
2004- 16,148
2005- 16,740
2006- 17,309
2007- 17,128
2008- 16,465
2009- 15,399
2010- 14,722
2011- 14,661
2012- 14,856
2013- 14,319
2014- 14,249

re: #61 ObserverArt

You know, why don’t some of you with Twitter accounts ask the god botherer types what would be more in line with Christian teachings, what Obama has said or what they are saying?

Besides. They already ingest a lot more crap than bags of dicks!

I don’t think they care about actual Christian teachings. They think right-wing authoritarian theocracy is “Christianity.”

The stuff Obama says is “Socialism.”

We have 3 paths with gun control: 1. Sensible, moderate improvements. 2. Radical change. 3. Nothing. We’re on the nothing path

— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) October 1, 2015

re: #21 jaunte

Looks to me like spikes around exam times, and in the spring when the girls break out the tank tops and skirts. Undersexed, under-achieving losers with guns respond to environmental stimulus just like any other animal.

re: #65 wrenchwench

And right-wingers should remember that staying on path (3) makes path (1) much more likely than path (2) when something has to give.

re: #58 Mike Lamb

Anthrax was the weapon of choice back then…

Anthrax and airplanes

White supremacy is so fucked up that Congress won’t even change gun laws when their own fellow white people are killed in mass shootings.

— Terrell J. Starr (@Russian_Starr) October 1, 2015

re: #61 ObserverArt

You know, why don’t some of you with Twitter accounts ask the god botherer types what would be more in line with Christian teachings, what Obama has said or what they are saying?

Remind them their God is watching, and taking names.

Go after their beliefs. Don’t give them the opportunity to tune you out as a crazy with anything less. Make them fuckers think. It is something they never do. Maybe that’ll hit ‘em where they hurt.

Besides. They already ingest a lot more crap than bags of dicks!

I’ve been told I will be judged by God because I have the blood of innocence on my hands.

I tell them I’ll take my chances.

They are delusional. There is no logic, only drones repeating rhetoric they themselves don’t understand.

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Anthrax and airplanes

don’t forget the Unibomber.

@Helpful_Heart_B @EWErickson You can’t blame racists on Obama. No one outside the #wingnut bubble will buy something that absurd.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 1, 2015

re: #62 freetoken

They don’t really care.

There are self-described “progressive” Christians who would agree with you, but if they already do that then they’re probably not tweeting stupid things.

I know, but at least go after their psyche a bit.

I’ve always believed the moment you get real angry and let loose with invective they get to call you crazy and you lose position and are labeled. Then they really shut you off and think they have a good reason.

To me the best burns are when you smile and call them out in their own terms and they have to go back and think about it.

Shrug. I dunno…

re: #53 Timothy Watson

I really think sexual frustration is at the base of the conservative psyche. They constantly go on about the SLUTS!!1! when their definition of “slut” is any woman who refuses to sleep with them. They need guns because it’s their only appendage that they get to use.

Sluts say yes.

Godly women aren’t supposed to say anything. Just follow orders from their husband, father, whatever, and be thankful.

The gun-nuts are politically powerful because they are not in a political vacuum.

They are part of what I believe is a very widespread desire to live in an 18th-century America fantasy.

They really do believe that the likes of President Obama wants to impose some horrible tyranny on them, because, well, that belief validates their urge to live 240 years in the past.

It’s all part of the hyper-individualism, self-reliant mythos of the “American.”

To accept that in 2015 we really don’t have a “militia” like in 1776, that savages are not running wild over the hills, and so on… well, that would mean a lot of things about how they view the world are out of date.

And they don’t want to go there.

re: #61 ObserverArt

They’d probably be like “If you look at verse blah here it is clear we are meant to tool up in the face of evil” etc. Stupidity always finds a way.

I like Anthrax!

Anthrax - I’m The Man

No. words.

#NRA #tcot #teaparty #gunsense #DefundTheGOP pic.twitter.com/uWdyXavRhO

— Picasso Kat (@Picassokat) October 1, 2015

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

Bush wouldn’t have commented on a shooting anyway. He wasn’t even allowing the press to cover dead soldiers coming back from Iraq.

re: #19 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

“Don’t politicize” is wingnut for “I got nothing.”

Ok. To each his own. I understand that sometimes letting loose with invective can be freeing and make you feel good. I sure don’t mean to judge.

Let it rip!

Later…going to a friends house for a visit.

THIS GREEDY COMMODE FLOATER NEEDS TO DRINK THE TAINTED PRODUCT THEY SOLD TO 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES RATHER THAN DUMP OUT pic.twitter.com/fmZrr9fiVo

— john osalvo (@jojokejohn) October 1, 2015

The Power Brokers don’t give a damn about school shootings, unless there is profit in it.

Oh look Ben made a meme of himself. What a little shitgoblin.

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— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 1, 2015

The gun fetishists and the “Je$u$” screamers in legislatures and the ones working to disenfranchise brown citizens… they’re pretty much the same crowd.

They don’t want to live in a modern 2015.

And there is enough of them to stop any meaningful legislation to address America’s gun problem.

re: #80 Jebediah, RBG

“Don’t politicize” is wingnut for “I got nothing.”

Correct. As a recovering wingnut, I still know how to speak wingnut fluently.

I can’t mention Anthrax without another favorite, S.O.D.

March Of The S.O.D.- Sargent ”D” & The S.O.D.

As a kid, I read Heinlein’s “Tunnel in the Sky”. In the book, a bunch of students are given a final survival exam by being sent to a planet and expected to survive the deadly beasts and other dangers.

The main character is trying to decide what gun to take, but is advised by his sister (a skilled soldier) not to take a gun, but rather a knife. She explained that a gun can make you over-confident and would actually decrease the chances of survival, because it would change his approach. Basically, “you are the prey” and a gun make you think of yourself as a predator instead. With only a knife, you understand clearly that you are the prey and act accordingly.

The gunfuckers strut around with their guns, feeling so powerful and like a predator. But the simple truth is that being armed does very little to protect you in an active shooter situation, especially when there is little time to react to the threat. Soldiers in combat understand only too well that having a gun doesn’t make you invulnerable. I just wish the gunfuckers understood that simple truth.

More guns don’t make us safer. Period. Guns don’t magically turn you from prey into the predator, despite all the NRA talking points. And guns in the hands of idiots present more dangers to the general public than they provide safety.

Obama: “Each time this happens, I’m going to bring this up- We need to change our laws.”

I can’t even imagine the clean up needed on tcot right now after that.

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look Ben made a meme of himself. What a little shitgoblin.

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It’s getting really hard to come up with epithets for these weasels that are worse than ‘Republican’.

‘Smegma elemental’ is my personal favorite. Sadly, I can’t take credit for this.

I just saw Pete Williams on MSNBC ask about the security on campus. “Should there be more armed guards on campuses?”

The answer to that is “no.” Its a freaking community college, not a prison. What the hell kind of country are we in where I’m being told I need to walk around armed and vigilant when I walk into a classroom or into a movie theatre?

I don’t care if the zone I’m in is not gun free. I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO WALK AROUND ARMED 24/7 IN “THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH”

I needed this giggle.

Happy Octobear. pic.twitter.com/UV5Z42S79b

— Sam Kalidi (@samkalidi) October 1, 2015

#tcot is overflowing with insane Derp, because it is a day ending in y, but there’s just a shit ton more of it because HURR HURR ARE PRECIOUS GUNZ!!!!1!!!!

I’m pre-emptively blocking and muting everyone with a Confederate flag avatar.

re: #81 ObserverArt

Ok. To each his own. I understand that sometimes letting loose with invective can be freeing and make you feel good. I sure don’t mean to judge.

Let it rip!

Later…going to a friends house for a visit.

It was a good talking point. Have a nice one!

re: #87 A Cranky One

As a kid, I read Heinlein’s “Tunnel in the Sky”. In the book, a bunch of students are given a final survival exam by being sent to a planet and expected to survive the deadly beasts and other dangers.

The main character is trying to decide what gun to take, but is advised by his sister (a skilled soldier) not to take a gun, but rather a knife. She explained that a gun can make you over-confident and would actually decrease the chances of survival, because it would change his approach. Basically, “you are the prey” and a gun make you think of yourself as a predator instead. With only a knife, you understand clearly that you are the prey and act accordingly.

The gunfuckers strut around with their guns, feeling so powerful and like a predator. But the simple truth is that being armed does very little to protect you in an active shooter situation, especially when there is little time to react to the threat. Soldiers in combat understand only too well that having a gun doesn’t make you invulnerable. I just wish the gunfuckers understood that simple truth.

More guns don’t make us safer. Period. Guns don’t magically turn you from prey into the predator, despite all the NRA talking points. And guns in the hands of idiots present more dangers to the general public than they provide safety.

IMHO, a shotgun is about all one needs for personal home defense. and rattlesnakes.

re: #90 mr.fusion

I just saw Pete Williams on MSNBC ask about the security on campus. “Should there be more armed guards on campuses?”

The answer to that is “no.” Its a freaking community college, not a prison. What the hell kind of country are we in where I’m being told I need to walk around armed and vigilant when I walk into a classroom or into a movie theatre?

I don’t care if the zone I’m in is not gun free. I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO WALK AROUND ARMED 24/7 IN “THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH”

The NRA vision of everyone in the US going around heavily armed at all times for no good reason is a hellish dystopia.

re: #95 EPR-radar

The NRA vision of everyone in the US going around heavily armed at all times for no good reason is a hellish dystopia.

“an Armed Society is a Polite Society.”

… .

If guns made you safer, we should be the safest place on Earth.

re: #96 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“an Armed Society is a Polite Society.”

… .

Works great in NW Pakistan.

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look Ben made a meme of himself. What a little shitgoblin.

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This is mini-wingnut @benshapiro quoting himself in an attempt to continue the gun madness indefinitely. He thinks he’s Christian.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 1, 2015

re: #96 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“an Armed Society is a Polite Society.”

… .

An Armed Society is a Society where a lot of people get shot.

Had a nice trip into Edinburgh today with ice and my Dad. Took a decent pic of the Scottish Parliament building with Arthur’s Seat in the background which I was going to post here, but having trouble getting it off the phone. I’ll post it in a page if I can get it off and its any good. Bedtime here now anyway so - later folks.

If an armed society is a polite society, then how come the most heavily armed people are the biggest assholes?

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

Then how come the most heavily armed ones are the biggest assholes?

guns give them the right the balls they don’t otherwise have

I gotta go

have a great evening all. !

I was behind enemy lines a few months ago (it was a work thing, if you want call me a whore, go ahead), and a sheriff’s deputy was at my table. This was while the debate in the Texas house was going on about concealed carry, by the way. The deputy told everyone at the table that CC was CRAZY. “Why would any of these people in Austin want to make our job any more difficult than it already is?”

Amen.

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

If an armed society is a polite society, then how come the most heavily armed people are the biggest assholes?

Small pee pees.

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

If an armed society is a polite society, then how come the most heavily armed people are the biggest assholes?

Back when everybody just had melee weapons and carrying a knife was the norm, nothing ever went wrong.

re: #100 Skip Intro

An Armed Society is a Society where a lot of people get shot.

The mother-in-law of James Pullum, one of two men who died in an apparent road-rage fueled shootout Wednesday, said her daughter and Pullum’s mother witnessed the double shooting.
The double shooting happened shortly before 7 p.m. at the Wonder Wand Car Wash at 426 S. Steele St.

Police said the 43-year-old Pullum and the other victim, 56-year-old Robert Taylor, both pulled their vehicles into the car wash after some type of road-rage incident moments earlier.

Both had permits to carry concealed weapons.

After a confrontation between the two men outside of the vehicles, they exchanged shots that ended up being fatal to both men.MLive

Yup, they were very polite. Once they killed each other.

This is the world the NRA wants. Spit.

Another nugget from a cop friend of mine about conceal and carry: “The last thing I need while doing my job is some yahoo with a gun thinking he’s doing my job.”

When was that? I missed it. my iron is still intact. .@benshapiro

— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) October 1, 2015

Man, Obama really tore it up in this press conference. Bravo, sir.

Sheriff John Hanlin wants you to keep your stinking hands off of his 2nd Amendment.

He also wants anyone who wants background checks on gun buyers to go to hell.

Today, Senate Bill 941, legislation which seeks to expand background checks to private transfers, passed the House Rules Committee and will now head to the floor for a final vote by the full House of Representatives. This bill was voted out of Committee today in a work session after receiving more than seven hours of both invited and public testimony on Wednesday.

Opposition testimony was led by NRA, Oregon Firearms Federation, Sheriff Tim Svenson from Yamhill County, and Sheriff John Hamlin from Douglas County. Following in opposition were numerous county commissioners including Chris Perry of Wheeler County, Paul Castillia of Wallowa County, Kevin Cameron of Marion County, Stan Primozich of Yamhill County, Chris Boice and Tim Freeman of Douglas County, and Tootie Smith of Clackamas County. Several gun stores and the Oregon Hunters Association also joined with opposition testimony at the hearing.

As previously reported, SB 941 would require individuals to appear before a gun dealer to request a criminal background check prior to privately transferring a firearm, absent limited exceptions. Transfers include, but are not limited to, sales, gifts, loans and leases. Failure to comply with this mandate could result in stiff penalties and possible loss of an individual’s right to keep and bear arms.

SB 941, like many other gun control schemes, is a step towards the full registration of firearms. In January 2013, the Department of Justice said that background checks on all firearm transfers “depends on…requiring gun registration.”

Please call and email your state Representative and urge him or her to OPPOSE Senate Bill 941. Also, please forward this email to friends, family and fellow Second Amendment supporters in Oregon and encourage them to do the same.

nraila.org

The Sheriff is a true NRA lovin’ gun humper. I hope he’s happy, and I’d love it if someone in our worthless media would bring this up with him.

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

If an armed society is a polite society, then how come the most heavily armed people are the biggest assholes?

you are the one who is polite to the people with guns. the people with guns are not polite to you

Insanity on display.

Our country has more shootings BECAUSE OF OBAMA and his POLICIES OF HATRED! My opinion! HE IS CAUSING THEM! #UCCShooting 4

— Anthony Fezio (@afezio1952) October 1, 2015

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

you are the one who is polite to the people with guns. the people with guns are not polite to you

I think some of the mentality goes back to feudalism, you have live in fear of the guy with the sword and his societal elevated position (knight), and you’re just a lowly serf.

(I seem to have gotten awfully philosophical/sociological in the last couple days for reason.)

re: #99 No Country For Old Haters

Not to detract from the point of the tweet, but… Ben Shapiro absolutely does not think of himself as a Christian.

re: #116 sagehen

Not to detract from the point of the tweet, but… Ben Shapiro absolutely does not think of himself as a Christian.

Well, he is Jewish.

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re: #115 Timothy Watson

I think around 40% of the country is infected with prion disease with no hope of recovery.

re: #118 Skip Intro

I think around 40% of the country is infected with prion disease with no hope of recovery.

That’s always a possibility. :)

~@realDonaldTrump with a dudebro bun. pic.twitter.com/PrjI3JhBpC

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 1, 2015

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

you are the one who is polite to the people with guns. the people with guns are not polite to you

Except I’m not polite to people with guns in public. Most are idiots with little or no training who present more danger to me than whatever threat they believe they are protecting themselves from.

Is it smart to annoy people carrying guns? Nope. But I resent being put in danger by idiots who are too cowardly to go to the store without their penis extension.

re: #118 Skip Intro

I think around 40% of the country is infected with prion disease with no hope of recovery.

I sometimes seriously wonder about that. It would be just the kind of weapon that terrorists could use to win an asymmetrical war.

re: #112 Skip Intro

Someone needs to go through all the record under his charge.

About UCC - I’m heartbroken right now. I grew up in rural northern California and have a lot of friends and know a lot of the rural ranching families in southern Oregon. This strikes too close to home for me.

re: #112 Skip Intro

Haul him in as a co-conspirator. I’m dead serious. Let him explain that when he said he wasn’t going to enforce the law, he meant something else.

Same class of asshole as Kim Davis, but Kim’s actions didn’t lead to anyone dying.

re: #29 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It used to be, IIRC, the nuns in RC schools who did this—up until the late 50’s or early 60’s.

Nuns yes, but it had nothing to do with the devil or ‘sinister’ forces. They used the Palmer Method.

en.wikipedia.org

re: #100 Skip Intro

That’s why all the gun nuts and Zimmermans are so polite! ////

re: #114 Kid A

I looked at that guy’s Twitter feed. I think he literally is insane. He thinks the shooting is a false flag by Obama to cover up getting embarrassed by Putin. (Slowly back away from him)

re: #127 team_fukit

That’s why all the gun nuts and Zimmermans are so polite! ////

They love that one-way politeness.

re: #112 Skip Intro

Sheriff John Hanlin wants you to keep your stinking hands off of his 2nd Amendment.

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He also wants anyone who wants background checks on gun buyers to go to hell.

nraila.org

The Sheriff is a true NRA lovin’ gun humper. I hope he’s happy, and I’d love it if someone in our worthless media would bring this up with him.

He’s demonstrating the tenets of the “Constitutional Sheriff” RWNJ movement.

splcenter.org

It’s not as brutal as the Palmer Method.

re: #128 gocart mozart

I looked at that guy’s Twitter feed. I think he literally is insane. He thinks the shooting is a false flag by Obama to cover up getting embarrassed by Putin. (Slowly back away from him)

Because we all know that people are lining up to become murderers and die, just to prevent Obama from being embarrassed.

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Charles, now that the statement is over you should re-embed the video to start at 23 minutes in.

re: #101 Aye Pod

Had a nice trip into Edinburgh today with ice and my Dad. Took a decent pic of the Scottish Parliament building with Arthur’s Seat in the background which I was going to post here, but having trouble getting it off the phone. I’ll post it in a page if I can get it off and its any good. Bedtime here now anyway so - later folks.

What about the Stone of Scone? (which I’d never heard of until it was featured on an episode of “Highlander”, but I really like it now.)

re: #125 Brian J.

Haul him in as a co-conspirator. I’m dead serious. Let him explain that when he said he wasn’t going to enforce the law, he meant something else.

Same class of asshole as Kim Davis, but Kim’s actions didn’t lead to anyone dying.

Hell, he won’t even be asked about it while he’s mouthing off in front of our comatose media today. Now if he was the mayor of a sanctuary city, Congress would be looking for ways to cut off his Federal funds.

re: #120 darthstar

Only thing missing is the condom.

re: #133 sagehen

What about the Stone of Scone?

beware of day old pastries?

re: #112 Skip Intro

Sheriff John Hanlin wants you to keep your stinking hands off of his 2nd Amendment.

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He also wants anyone who wants background checks on gun buyers to go to hell.

nraila.org

The Sheriff is a true NRA lovin’ gun humper. I hope he’s happy, and I’d love it if someone in our worthless media would bring this up with him.

It would be fantastic if the media asked him questions, lots and lots of questions, about this letter and his stupid thoughts.

re: #114 Kid A

Insanity on display.

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That’s a person who should not have access to a gun.

perhaps i could get a browser plugin that will pre-crash flash before it has a chance to crash itself

If Planned Parenthood installed a gun counter in each of their clinics, Congressional Republicans would give them enough funding to buy a couple of nuclear aircraft carriers.

- Jim Wright

re: #139 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

perhaps i could get a browser plugin that will pre-crash flash before it has a chance to crash itself

There are plugins that will stop flash from auto playing (instead making it click to play).

re: #137 Sionainn

It would be fantastic if the media asked him questions, lots and lots of questions, about this letter and his stupid thoughts.

Since he’s doing such an awesome fucking job of protecting his citizenry and all. How many kids have been shot dead under his watch now?

re: #137 Sionainn

It would be fantastic if the media asked him questions, lots and lots of questions, about this letter and his stupid thoughts.

Yes, it would, but it sure as hell won’t be our media.

re: #137 Sionainn

It would be fantastic if the media asked him questions, lots and lots of questions, about this letter and his stupid thoughts.

Said stupid thoughts including nullification and ‘sovereign citizen’ sheriff supremacy crap.

re: #90 mr.fusion

The answer to that is “no.” Its a freaking community college, not a prison. What the hell kind of country are we in where I’m being told I need to walk around armed and vigilant when I walk into a classroom or into a movie theatre?

I don’t care if the zone I’m in is not gun free. I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO WALK AROUND ARMED 24/7 IN “THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH”

A shitty country full of fucktards. Billo was right, america is packed to the rafters with stupid fucks.

I did go for that afternoon gin and tonic.

Oh man, Sipsmith is just amazing stuff.

The French Ambassador to the US follows me on twitter. (I should probably flirt)

He retweeted this from me.

.@POTUS is correct. States with strongest gun laws=lowest rates of gun violence: http://t.co/KRqZn3GPly #UCCShooting pic.twitter.com/uxm0CzXumj

— CAP Guns (@CAPgunsandcrime) October 1, 2015

UPDATE: Sheriff revises casualty toll, says 10 killed, 7 injured in shooting at Oregon community college.

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 2, 2015

My SiL is recovering from cancer. She has never had decent health care in her life and luckily she obtained it through Obamacare. If not for that she would have never caught it and would be dead by now. A family “friend” wingnut was over, pouring sympathy over her when she was in the worst part of chemo. I took her aside and told her, “it’s because of selfish assholes like you that she’s dying, don’t fucking talk to me anymore”. And she hasn’t.

My friend the security guard, whom I have mentioned here a number of times, was shot while off duty a few weeks ago.
I haven’t mentioned this before for fear of compromising his identity but I think enough time has passed (many shootings in Lubbock recently) and it’s important enough in the current context that I can bring it up now.
He had his Sig .357 pistol on him, as he is licensed to do. He is well trained to use it, but he didn’t have a chance in the world to defend himself. A car pulled up to him in a parking lot and without a word the driver started shooting. My friend was hit 5 times but survived. He spent two weeks in the hospital but is back home now and facing a long convalescence.
This did not happen on the job but it job related so his employers will be picking up the tab: The shooter is a punk he had apprehended trying to break into an apartment a couple of months earlier. The punk had threatened revenge and he got it. He is looking at 10 years to life as well.

re: #149 Amory Blaine

My SiL is recovering from cancer. She has never had decent health care in her life and luckily she obtained it through Obamacare. If not for that she would have never caught it and would be dead by now. A family “friend” wingnut was over, pouring sympathy over her when she was in the worst part of chemo. I took her aside and told her, “it’s because of selfish assholes like you that she’s dying, don’t fucking talk to me anymore”. And she hasn’t.

Shit like that kills me.

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

How very journalistic of him! //

re: #140 Skip Intro

cc.com

re: #132 Thanos

Charles, now that the statement is over you should re-embed the video to start at 23 minutes in.

Thanks - I replaced the video with the recorded version.

This is one smart cookie….

STICK IT UP YOUR ASS, OBAMA. YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL DISGRACE. GIVE UP YOUR GUNS. GET RID OF YOUR ARMED GUARDS. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.. SURE.

— holly ammon (@hollyammon) October 1, 2015

laws are meaningless, says lawmaker https://t.co/g07shSrPnV

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) October 1, 2015

re: #149 Amory Blaine

I have to say a direct approach can produce results. I shamed a wingnut in front of their group for spewing lies about welfare. Lo and behold a couple months later we get a call, they don’t like wingnuts no more. We’ll see if it sticks, but it sure beats having to listen to their stupidity.

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Nuns yes, but it had nothing to do with the devil or ‘sinister’ forces. They used the Palmer Method.

en.wikipedia.org

My BIIL was told that the left hand was of the devil.

Did so much for his self-image.

re: #130 Decatur Deb

He’s demonstrating the tenets of the “Constitutional Sheriff” RWNJ movement.

splcenter.org

It’s not as brutal as the Palmer Method.

Palmer screwed kids neurologically and the nuns screwed them psychologically for decades.

re: #96 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“an Armed Society is a Polite Society.”

… .

Never mind that the book that’s from was dissing the society that said that…

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel

The simple truth is no lock can keep anyone completely out. No car is theft proof. Locks and security only slow the thief down or makes them look for an easier mark. Just because you pack means jack shit. If some one wanted to shoot you, unless you had the weapon cocked and pointed at them, you are shot. It’s not anything but the craven who insist on no back ground checks and walk around with their useless dicks out. I hope your friends recovery is a good one.

re: #161 nines09

The simple truth is no lock can keep anyone completely out. No car is theft proof. Locks and security only slow the thief down or makes them look for an easier mark. Just because you pack means jack shit. If some one wanted to shoot you, unless you had the weapon cocked and pointed at them, you are shot. It’s not anything but the craven who insist on no back ground checks and walk around with their useless dicks out. I hope your friends recovery is a good one.

The “armed woman won’t be raped” idea is true is about (I’m guessing) about 3% of the time. Most women won’t shoot their husbands, step-fathers or brothers regardless of the abuse they receive.

I”m going to find a bad Sci-Fi movie to watch.

Anything is better than current events.

bbl

re: #158 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Historically, the left side, and subsequently left-handedness, was considered negative in many cultures. The Latin word sinistra originally meant “left” but took on meanings of “evil” or “unlucky” by the Classical Latin era, and this double meaning survives in European derivatives of Latin, and in the English word “sinister”.

Meanings gradually developed from use of these terms in the ancient languages. In many modern European languages, including English, the word for the direction “right” also means “correct” or “proper”, and also stands for authority and justice. In most Slavic languages the root prav is used in words carrying meanings of correctness or justice.

So, if you were left-handed or sinister, you were associated with evil. In time, sinister itself meant evil and threatening. EtymOnline said that sinister attained this meaning in the early 15th century. The OED supports this, writing that the first uses of sinister to mean malicious were:

1474 Rolls of Parl. VI. 110/1 Contynuyn in habundaunce of goodes and havour, to their sinister pleasure.

1477 Earl Rivers tr. Dictes or Sayengis Philosophhres (Caxton) (1877) lf. 7, Leste ye be let or withdrawen ther fro by eny sinistre or euil temptacion.

english.stackexchange.com

Oh wait, it’s a white giraffe beebee!

Florallllllll!

baby giraffe (from above) in music video
Baby Giraffe - Milwaukee County Zoo

In 1996 this man killed 35 people in #Australia We introduced #guncontrol Mass shootings since? ZERO #UCCShooting pic.twitter.com/FERnned281

— Kon Karapanagiotidis (@Kon__K) October 2, 2015

re: #166 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Hey!! That’s our zoo!

re: #168 Amory Blaine

Hey!! That’s our zoo!

he/she does a little kick at the end!

bbl

Jim Jefferies - Guns Are Not Protection - from BARE - Netflix Special

kitties!!!!!Lion Cubs Enjoy One-Year Birthday Celebration!

Ben is drunk as shit

Obama praised gun confiscating Australia and Great Britain. But no, he just wants “modest” regulations. http://t.co/mqQI9idekW

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 2, 2015

Remember, folks, the left has no modest positions on legislation. They only have gradualism in the pursuit of utopia.

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 2, 2015

If Democrats truly want to stop gun crime, they should begin by disarming Democrats. Blue localities are the centers of US gun crime.

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 2, 2015

Ted Cruz tells @marklevinshow on Obama’s reaction to Oregon: “He is ideological and he is radical.”

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) October 2, 2015

re: #173 jaunte

Yep. He’s so radical because he wants to prevent mass shootings. What a dick.

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

gradualism in the pursuit of utopia

I guess that explains all the laws making it harder for minorities to vote, harder for women to get healthcare, cutting taxes on the wealthy… oh wait.

Wing nut Douglas sheriff letter just featured on All In.

I make a point of avoiding insults/personal attacks on Twitter. But mass shooting “truthers” are horrible people. https://t.co/0c81i4801U

— Deborah Roseman (@roseperson) October 2, 2015

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel

Wingnut fantasy gun myths abound it’s like some fractal expansion version of Whack A Mole. Many of those myths revolve around some imaginary cinematic invincibility that comes with weapons. Nobody beats surprise. Bad guy gets the first move by definition of defense. Guns make any punk or anger addict deadly. Victims need a break to have a chance to escape or fight. I hope he heals up okay, that’s a lot of hits.

What I’m really hating today from the post tragedy discussion out there is the gun free zone crap. As if ordinary gun carry around rambunctious kids carries no risk. As if accidents don’t happen, as if some angry kid could not ever get a gun from a guard in a sudden grab. As if etc.

i don’t know anything about todays killer. I do know he did not change the equation of having guns close to kids at school.

Bill Hicks on Gun Control

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is drunk as shit

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Why do they also reference political persuasions of the offenders as if Democrats are defending them after learning they voted for Obama? Democrats want to stop gun violence in blue, red, purple, yellow, and green localities.

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is drunk as shit

That’s pink-elephant-hallucinatory drunk. When will he loudly pronounce a “false flag”?

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is drunk as shit

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You’d be drunk all the time too if you graduated from Harvard Law and the only job you could land was at Breitbart.

re: #173 jaunte

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Ted needs to make some calls to some families. Fucking cretin.

re: #181 teleskiguy

That’s pink-elephant-hallucinatory drunk. When will he loudly pronounce a “false flag”?

When will CCJ start doxing the victims?

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

@EWErickson Maybe because his administration had the worst single mass shooting on record (VIrginia Tech - 32 dead)

— Eric The Fruit Bat (@ericdafruitbat) October 2, 2015

re: #87 A Cranky One

I once mentioned that book and that concept on another political forum when discussing guns.

I got the internet equivalent of blank stares from the ammosexuals.

re: #96 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“an Armed Society is a Polite Small Society.”

… .

FTFY.

Probably smelly as well due to a lot of unburied corpses.

re: #7 jaunte

@toddstarnes The worst mass shooting occurred on Bush II’s watch (never mind the war crimes he and Cheney engaged in)

— Eric The Fruit Bat (@ericdafruitbat) October 2, 2015

re: #163 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Try this one. War of The Worlds: Goliath

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

@benshapiro Given the military hardware local and state law enforcement has, your guns will be nothing more than flea farts. #dumbass

— Eric The Fruit Bat (@ericdafruitbat) October 2, 2015