Podcast o’ the Day: The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show, 10/1/15

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Here’s the most recent episode of the The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show, our podcasting affiliate, for your listening enjoyment.

Pretty Much Hopeless: The 294th Mass Shooting in America This Year; Chuck C. Johnson Publishes 14-Year-Old’s Phone Number; Terrorist Attack on California Planned Parenthood; Huckabee Derps on Benghazi; And the Next Speaker of the House is a Flaming Moron; Kevin McCarthy Says Benghazi Hearings are All About Hillary; and much more.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:16:17pm

While I go get my headphones I found this educational document:

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:16:47pm

Talked to my security guard friend today. He is doing very well. He is expected to recover fully but it will take some time.
The old cliche about an armed society being a polite society came up. He had some HIGHLY relevant comments:
“Fer sure. When the car pulled up and the driver rolled down the window, I recognized him and politely said, ‘You aren’t supposed to be here.” Then it was BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!”

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Stuff Happens  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:18:06pm

What stuff is happening in your world? It’s sunny in Brooklyn.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:19:57pm

re: #3 Stuff Happens

What stuff is happening in your world? It’s sunny in Brooklyn.

Overcast, parades, and the Eagles losing (for now) here in Philly.

BOOM! Eagles now not losing.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:23:51pm

re: #1 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

They should have put two cats in the second panel, three in the third, etc., along with the wind differences.

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:24:09pm

re: #3 Stuff Happens

What stuff is happening in your world? It’s sunny in Brooklyn.

Sunny blue skies, nice breeze, residual water in our basement.

I was planning on laying down a demo in the studio today. That’s been pre-empted while we try to isolate the water in one corner. Weee.

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andres  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:26:06pm

re: #3 Stuff Happens

What stuff is happening in your world? It’s sunny in Brooklyn.

Hotter than summer over the Caribbean.

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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:26:34pm

It drizzled here this morning.

Stuff happens.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:27:46pm

Apple Mail suddenly decided to stop getting new mail from my main LGF email account.

Stuff happens.

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Bear  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:28:37pm

Four days in a row without any rain here. Think I will take a Sunday drive.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:31:10pm

I saw a GM car commercial that could be modified to make an interesting gun control commercial.

The commercial was based on new technology that allows the car to react before people do. The GM rep was sitting at a table, and when people would walk up, he would lob eggs at them in a way that they could catch them if they were prepared, which the people in the commercial obviously weren’t.

A gun control commercial could be made the same way, and the person could say “Unless you are already prepared, having a gun on you will not prevent you, or those around you, from being shot. The only way to make this work is to reduce the chance of the wrong people having guns in the first place.”

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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:34:02pm

AP headline sez:

BLACK LIVES HOLD PEACEFUL PROTEST AT TWIN CITIES MARATHON

Here AP is using “peaceful” in a strange way. To most people, the opposite of “peaceful” is violent.

But the group never intended a violent demonstration. They had threatened to be disruptive. After meeting with the organizers and city they decided to not be so disruptive.

Words matter.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:35:22pm

Recovering from jet lag. Reading about the Deccan Traps. Partly cloudy, rained last night. My region seems to have received more rain than I can ever remember, looking for data.

2016 Stuff Happens.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:37:06pm

HURR HURR WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!!!!!

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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:39:35pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:40:05pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Did you ask them who was going to pay for these guards? And what their salary would be?

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:45:01pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Unless you point a gun at every person who enters a building, the shooter will always have the upper hand. And what about the other doors on a building?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:46:05pm

re: #17 Belafon

Unless you point a gun at every person who enters a building, the shooter will always have the upper hand. And what about the other doors on a building?

Not to mention a significant percentage of “unempolyeed” veterans have PTSD.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:46:16pm

Speaking of wrong people having a gun, from what we already know about Chris Harper-Mercer, would he have been a person that would have been refused a gun?

I tend to think he would have been granted a license at first. If there were re-licensing reviews though I think recent behavior might have been a reason to have him turn them over to the police.

If I understand correctly, he was in a special school or classes for young people with emotional problems. Everyone seemed to think he was nice enough and didn’t show any particular violent tendencies just withdrawn and a loner. So maybe that gets recorded on his application and gets him on a watch list.

So, let’s say he gets a gun license, but a few years later he is seen complaining about no girlfriends, etc. and starts posting strange questionable comments on social sites. Add the new behavior to the fact he is on a watch list, then it triggers a review and he gives his guns up.

Can it, would it and should it work like that? And, I admit I do not know all his personal details.

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Lidane  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:47:57pm
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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:50:41pm

re: #19 ObserverArt

To not only require an evaluation to get a gun, but then to require re-evaluations periodically, while I think is not a bad idea, has no way to be accpeted in an America obsessed with fantasies about the magic of guns.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:51:03pm

re: #20 Lidane

Where do we vote?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:51:05pm
Just across the border

Interesting item just seen in a scanned slide. :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:52:03pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Apple Mail suddenly decided to stop getting new mail from my main LGF email account.

Stuff happens.

If you’re having problems on an iphone iOS 9 may be the culprit.

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Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:54:25pm

re: #20 Lidane

[Embedded content]

To be fair, so would I. ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:54:56pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

And of course these veterans will totally work for free right? Right?

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:58:13pm

re: #21 freetoken

To not only require an evaluation to get a gun, but then to require re-evaluations periodically, while I think is not a bad idea, has no way to be accpeted in an America obsessed with fantasies about the magic of guns.

I’m just trying to pound out some thoughts on how we could possibly control guns.

To me any part of control needs periodic contact with the owner, just like in auto registration and licensing.

I do believe you can have your drivers license pulled by the state for any number of reasons. Too many infractions. Drunken driving. Health. Etc.

I agree that it will be tough to get any controls through no matter what the details are.

Edit…and my post above was just a hypothetical. If there were gun control, would it have controlled the Oregon shooter?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 4, 2015 • 12:59:52pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Placing armed government employees in schools is now regarded as a good idea by the same people who lost their minds over Jade Helm? I assume that the gun owners and the arms industry are going to pony up the money for those armed veterans because you’re looking at a few hundred thousand paychecks. It would be wrong for them to demand that the everyone pay the price for the actions of a few, right?

As usual, they want everyone else to pick up the tab for their obsession.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:01:34pm

re: #28 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Placing armed government employees in schools is now regarded as a good idea by the same people who lost their minds over Jade Helm? I assume that the gun owners and the arms industry are going to pony up the money for those armed veterans because you’re looking at a few hundred thousand paychecks. It would be wrong for them to demand that the everyone pay the price for the actions of a few, right?

As usual, they want everyone else to pick up the tab for their obsession.

And pay no taxes for any of it…all at the same time.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:01:55pm

Real gun control will be a long road with many facets, some setbacks and mistakes, requiring real effort.

The first thing we have to do is change culture and admit we have a problem. We can’t even do that as a whole of our society despite the facts and statistics. The fact that gun/ammo sales seem to skyrocket after a high profile event belies that reality.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:03:23pm

re: #28 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Not to mention, who is going to train these people? I have a strong suspicion being in the military and being a school security guard have somewhat different skill sets. At least I hope they do

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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:03:47pm

re: #30 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

The first thing we have to do is change culture and admit we have a problem.

I believe this is referred to as “step 1”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:06:34pm

I’m thinking maybe we start small by requiring everyone who buys a gun to take a basic safety course. No restrictions on what kind of weapons can be purchased or anything, just the safety training.

It’s a pretty weak argument that such a requirement would infringe anyones right to have a gun.

Of course we’d need to figure out who would pay for said training…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:10:22pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

If you’re having problems on an iphone iOS 9 may be the culprit.

Actually, this is on my desktop computer.

I tried everything. Messed around with various settings all morning and no luck at all.

Finally I just decided to nuke the account recreate it from scratch, and that seems to have fixed it.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:12:21pm

Things to look forward to this week:

Get our own server, get off GoDaddy Outlook server
Get off Dropbox
Move into new office - an ex computer lab/store with miles of network drops

Cannot wait.

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:16:08pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m thinking maybe we start small by requiring everyone who buys a gun to take a basic safety course. No restrictions on what kind of weapons can be purchased or anything, just the safety training.

It’s a pretty weak argument that such a requirement would infringe anyones right to have a gun.

Of course we’d need to figure out who would pay for said training…

I’d insist on some type of insurance for any weapon purchased.

Wingnuts just love that stupid ‘there are drunk drivers so let’s ban cars’ argument. Fine. Then let’s require gun owners to buy insurance for every new weapon, and a yearly renewal of that registration. And if a weapon is there one year and gone the next (without paperwork to show where it went), then big fines for the seller are in order, IMO.

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freetoken  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:23:22pm

re: #36 makeitstop

I’d insist on some type of insurance for any weapon purchased.

That seems too reasonable to find any traction.

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:27:44pm

re: #37 freetoken

That seems too reasonable to find any traction.

I know. I brought it up in a discussion on Facebook the other day, and a person who I thought was pretty reasonable accused me of wanting to ‘ban guns.’

And I see this all the time! The NRA has really shaped the debate, and any call for common sense is automatically interpreted as a desire to ban guns.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:30:35pm

re: #36 makeitstop

I’d insist on some type of insurance for any weapon purchased.

Wingnuts just love that stupid ‘there are drunk drivers so let’s ban cars’ argument. Fine. Then let’s require gun owners to buy insurance for every new weapon, and a yearly renewal of that registration. And if a weapon is there one year and gone the next (without paperwork to show where it went), then big fines for the seller are in order, IMO.

Insurance is a huge part of gun control. Yooooge!

We insure everything else. Why not guns? And yes, I have heard it is because it is a constitutional right.

So is the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I think ultimately life trumps guns.

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Skip Intro  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:31:15pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

What a great idea! Do they work for free?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:31:28pm

‘You just want to ban guns!’ is the Gunfucker Godwin.

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danarchy  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:31:28pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

And of course these veterans will totally work for free right? Right?

/

Remember, all teachers are overpaid, so it should be easy to save enough to hire some guards, if only those damn unions would get out of the way.

Do I have to include the tags?

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Skip Intro  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:34:39pm

Americans Opposed to Being Shot Seek Representation in Washington

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) - Americans who are opposed to being shot, a constituency that has historically failed to find representation in Washington, are making a new effort to make its controversial ideas heard in the nation’s capital.

“When you bring up the idea of not wanting to be shot with members of Congress, there’s always been pushback,” Carol Foyler, founder of the lobbying group Americans Opposed to Being Shot, said. “Their reaction has been, basically, ‘Not being shot: who’s going to support something like that?’”

Foyler, however, believes that the right to not be shot, much like women’s right to vote, the right to same-sex marriage, and other rights that were deemed controversial in their day, may be an idea whose time has finally come.

“For years, we’ve been talking about the right to not be shot and people have been looking at us like we’re out of our minds,” she said. “But recent polls show that a vast majority of Americans, in fact, do not want to be shot.”

While Foyler and other anti-being-shot activists believe that Washington may finally be receptive to their radical ideas, Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice-president of the National Rifle Association, is doubtful. “People who don’t want to be shot are a very narrow interest group,” he said.

newyorker.com

It’s SATIRE!

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danarchy  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:35:52pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

Insurance is a huge part of gun control. Yooooge!

We insure everything else. Why not guns? And yes, I have heard it is because it is a constitutional right.

So is the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I think ultimately life trumps guns.

Pretty sure the argument here would be the right to life suggests the right to self defense which would mean access to the means of self defense, lather rinse repeat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:36:02pm

Conservatives have already accepted that innocent children are an acceptable sacrifice to allow the rest of us to buy any gun we want, and to carry it with us anywhere we go. When major Presidential candidates can say “Stuff happens” (Bush) or “Things Happen” (Trump), and when the response to somebody killing 20 First Graders is to say it’s too soon to talk about gun violence, it tells you all you need to know.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:36:08pm

Are there still PTAs?

Well, here comes the PTP. Parent and Teacher Patrol.

Libertarian thinking: You want your damn kids protected, protect them yourself!

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prairiefire  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:37:06pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

Yes, PTAs are still going strong.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:37:16pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

What a great idea! Do they work for free?

Damn near. I checked the salaries for ‘Armed Security Guard’ in the Bay Area, and it said “$31,000”. That’s $15/hour.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:37:47pm

Why don’t we arm the children? Get some My Little Pony AK’s then freedom will be almost free.

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Jenner7  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:38:25pm

Homeland and The Affair start tonight on Showtime. Also, last episode of FTWD and The Strain.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:38:43pm

Did Trump really call shooters “geniuses” ???

WTF was the context?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:39:13pm

re: #49 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Why don’t we arm the children? Get some My Little Pony AK’s then freedom will be almost free.

The only thing that can stop a Bad Kid With A “Transformers” AR15 is a Good Kid With A My Little Pony AK47.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:40:30pm

Mandatory insurance for cars? Same for guns. The gun owners/purchasers pay for it. Renew every year. The more guns you have, the more the insurance per gun increases. Pistols and high capacity long guns cost the most to insure, just like luxury/sports cars. Insurance must be purchased with every new gun purchase. Proof of insurance must be carried with anyone who CCs.

Yearly competency tests. Owners pay for that. Gun ranges make more $. Everyone should be happy. You miss your exam? License to own is suspended and you’re paid a visit by law enforcement.

Background checks and waiting periods for gun show/private sales. You fail to do this? Minimum 5 years prison. An actual 5 years. No early release.

Gun shops? If a gun you sell is used for a crime? You’re fined heavily the first time. Fine doubles the second time this happens. Third time = jail + fine and you lose your business. Both time served and amount paid increase for every offense after the 3rd. Say by 10-15%.

See. Nowhere am I advocating banning guns. But alas. I’ll be accused of it. And I’m a gun owner myself. I don’t see any of this unreasonable.

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Jenner7  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:40:55pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea Toujours

“No matter what you do, you’re gonna have problems,” Trump told NBC News in an interview that aired Sunday. “Because you have sick people. They happen to be intelligent. And, you know, they can be sick as hell and they’re geniuses in a certain way. They are going to be able to break the system.”

Determined killers, Trump continued, are still “gonna be able to get into a school or get into something.”

“It’s a horrible thing to say,” he added. “And it’s not even politically correct. But it’s common sense. You’re going to have problems no matter how good, no matter what kind of checks you do, you know, what kind of laws.”

cbsnews.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:41:21pm

re: #44 danarchy

Pretty sure the argument here would be the right to life suggests the right to self defense which would mean access to the means of self defense, lather rinse repeat.

In the context of a gun control conversation and where we are in it currently, are you saying even the people we are considering not fit to own a gun would still need to be able to protect themselves too, so they need a gun?

Ay yi yi…what a tangled web Amendment #2 creates.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:43:21pm

re: #54 Jenner7

My dog.

I swear he’s going to propose some new fangled round em up mental institutions when the next shooting happens.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:44:20pm

Back to my most wonderful weekend listening to Audible.

Will check back in next breaky.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:48:26pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

In the context of a gun control conversation and where we are in it currently, are you saying even the people we are considering not fit to own a gun would still need to be able to protect themselves too, so they need a gun?

AY yi yi…what a tangled web Amendment #2 creates.

We have so many guns that we need more guns to protect us from all the guns, and we bigger guns, because we don’t want to be outgunned, but now that everyone has bigger guns we need EVEN BIGGER guns. And we need more guns in case somebody tries to take away the guns we have in case somebody tries to take away the guns.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:52:01pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

We have so many guns that we need more guns to protect us from all the guns, and we bigger guns, because we don’t want to be outgunned, but now that everyone has bigger guns we need EVEN BIGGER guns. And we need more guns in case somebody tries to take away the guns we have in case somebody tries to take away the guns.

Backpack nukes on pressure release and mercury switches. The only real freedom patriot way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:52:43pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:52:59pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

We have so many guns that we need more guns to protect us from all the guns, and we bigger guns, because we don’t want to be outgunned, but now that everyone has bigger guns we need EVEN BIGGER guns. And we need more guns in case somebody tries to take away the guns we have in case somebody tries to take away the guns.

Did you copy that off that big gold plaque in the NRA main office conference room?

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Jenner7  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:53:01pm
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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:55:59pm

The imperial stormtroopers are people too.

meduza.io

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:57:49pm

re: #59 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

But what if a backpack nuke just isn’t enough…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:58:58pm

re: #64 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone has fission bombs these days. The only way to protect yourself is to go thermonuclear.

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2015 • 1:59:14pm

The only thing that might change the Gun Industry and the NRA’s minds to maybe back some kind of sensible gun laws is for armed groups to start going after them.

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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:01:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:02:36pm

re: #66 Tigger2

The only thing that might change the Gun Industry and the NRA to maybe back some kind of sensible gun laws is for armed groups to start going after them.

Or for black people in large numbers to start legally buying lots and lots of guns and talking about the need to protect themselves from government tyranny, flying ‘Don’t Tread On Me’ flags, and speaking of Second Amendment Remedies.

Sure, the gunfuckers can accept one or two such, just to prove they’re not racist. But let the Black Community start doing it en masse, and you’re talking Australia- style ban.

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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:08:07pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:08:11pm

re: #66 Tigger2

I find it interesting that when the NRA has a convention or one of their board members has a speaking engagement, no guns are allowed. No guns allowed in the halls of Congress either. Hmm. Wonder why that is? Anyone?

I went hiking last week, the one stinking day we didn’t have rain. At a National Park Service property. It’s a little, um, disconcerting to see a group of three men approaching myself, alone, all armed. Because the assholes in Congress decided it’s just damned fine to carry in National Parks now. WTF for? Oh, and as an aside, a lot of these asshats are target practicing on park property and leaving enough crap behind that it’s endangering wildlife.

What about MY rights? What about my right to feel safe and not have to worry about whether the people around me who are armed aren’t either assholes or criminal assholes? Don’t the rights of others stop where mine begin? I really wish I could figure out a way to start a lobby shop just as powerful as the NRA with the exact opposite goals. Because it seems that money and the threat of negative (pardon the expression) targeting of elected officials(via media of all kinds) is the only thing that moves them at ALL. I also wonder how many threats congresscritters get by gun nuts? It would be interesting to know

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:12:35pm

re: #70 A Mom Anon

I find it interesting that when the NRA has a convention or one of their board members has a speaking engagement, no guns are allowed. No guns allowed in the halls of Congress either. Hmm. Wonder why that is? Anyone?

I went hiking last week, the one stinking day we didn’t have rain. At a National Park Service property. It’s a little, um, disconcerting to see a group of three men approaching myself, alone, all armed. Because the assholes in Congress decided it’s just damned fine to carry in National Parks now. WTF for? Oh, and as an aside, a lot of these asshats are target practicing on park property and leaving enough crap behind that it’s endangering wildlife.

What about MY rights? What about my right to feel safe and not have to worry about whether the people around me who are armed aren’t either assholes or criminal assholes? Don’t the rights of others stop where mine begin? I really wish I could figure out a way to start a lobby shop just as powerful as the NRA with the exact opposite goals. Because it seems that money and the threat of negative (pardon the expression) targeting of elected officials(via media of all kinds) is the only thing that moves them at ALL. I also wonder how many threats congresscritters get by gun nuts? It would be interesting to know

It would be funny to see 100 mil + people to get together and start a lobbing firm.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:12:59pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

What a great idea! Do they work for free?

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

And of course these veterans will totally work for free right? Right?

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:14:52pm

re: #49 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Why don’t we arm the children? Get some My Little Pony AK’s then freedom will be almost free.

Well there was some Fox News hot blonde who thought Teh Littel Childrens should be taught TO RUSH AT THE SHOOTER ALL TOGETHER like he was Santa bringing them PRESENTS, instead of running away like little kindergarteners.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:16:19pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Well there was some Fox News hot blonde who thought Teh Littel Childrens should be taught TO RUSH AT THE SHOOTER ALL TOGETHER like he was Santa bringing them PRESENTS, instead of running away like little kindergarteners.

Oh, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. In what world does intentionally teaching our children to endanger themselves make any sort of sense?!

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:16:21pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Well there was some Fox News hot blonde who thought Teh Littel Childrens should be taught TO RUSH AT THE SHOOTER ALL TOGETHER like he was Santa bringing them PRESENTS, instead of running away like little kindergarteners.

And that blond Fox idiot would be the first one to turn around and run the other way.

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:17:28pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t that the dark-haired Catholic wing nut that Sadly No likes to skewer?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:19:12pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

Oh, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. In what world does intentionally teaching our children to endanger themselves make any sort of sense?!

Megan McArdle. I Googled her, she’s a brunette idiot.

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:20:04pm

Yep, that’s the one I meant. I might be wrong about her being the one that said it, tho’.

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:20:52pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Megan McArdle. OK I Googled her, she’s a brunette idiot.

And yes, yes she is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:21:17pm

I suppose that is Fox idea of “diversity”

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:21:46pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Megan McArdle. OK I Googled her, she’s a brunette idiot.

Read the article. Because the idea of teaching teenagers to commit suicide-by-terrorist is oh, so much better than the idea of teaching children to do it. What the actual fuck.

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Tigger2  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:22:36pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Megan McArdle. I Googled her, she’s a brunette idiot.

Then all that would be different is we would see brown hair instead of blond hair blowing in the wind as she made a hasty retreat.

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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:26:04pm
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MSF Response to Spurious Claims That Kunduz Hospital Was “A Taliban Base”
October 04, 2015
Following an earlier statement Sunday morning reiterating MSF’s call for an independent investigation of the bombing of its hospital in Kunduz, MSF General Director Christopher Stokes released this additional statement on Sunday, in response to claims from Afghan officials that MSF’s hospital in Kunduz was routinely used by the Taliban for military purposes:

“MSF is disgusted by the recent statements coming from some Afghanistan government authorities justifying the attack on its hospital in Kunduz. These statements imply that Afghan and US forces working together decided to raze to the ground a fully functioning hospital with more than 180 staff and patients inside because they claim that members of the Taliban were present.

This amounts to an admission of a war crime. This utterly contradicts the initial attempts of the US government to minimize the attack as ‘collateral damage.’

There can be no justification for this abhorrent attack on our hospital that resulted in the deaths of MSF staff as they worked and patients as they lay in their beds. MSF reiterates its demand for a full transparent and independent international investigation.”

Yep.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:28:11pm

Any attempt at gun control, no matter how modest or reasonable, will fail because of the pervasive nature of the conspiracy theory that underlies practically all right wing thinking on the issue. This holds that gun control is not proposed for public safety or to reduce crime but to disarm the population and make them easy prey for a tyrannical government and its allied demographic groups (mainly blacks). White racists are not entirely stupid. They know that the mythical ACORN style militia would be helpless in a confrontation unless it were armed and its victims were not. The racists must therefore spin up a scenario that rationalizes their fear and prejudice. The non-existent, indeed, categorically impossible, threat of gun confiscation provides that rationale.

There are many variations-with the degree of overt racism being the primary variable- but the basic theory is the back narrative of all gun control discussion in this country.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:28:46pm

re: #75 Tigger2

And that blond Fox idiot would be the first one to turn around and run the other way.

She knows that she only has to outrun the children.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:32:49pm

Spent part of my vacation reading a book that read like right wing trope laced prepper fantasy.

87
A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:33:52pm

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well, that’s pretty easy, she can also trip them and push them out of the way. These idiots live in an action adventure movie, where every situation will turn out the way they want it to, if only everyone can just do things their way. There are no variables, no realistic scenarios, no common sense involved. It’s a sickness, and I am not sure what the cure is. I get the feeling that these deluded freaks could see adults and babies and all ages in between mowed down in front of them and they’d just shower off the blood and brain matter and go buy more guns. If it was their own child, I seriously think they’d just dig their heels in deeper. They do not care. At All.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:38:23pm

re: #86 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Spent part of my vacation reading a book that read like right wing trope laced prepper fantasy.

Months before publication, One Second After has already been cited on the floor of Congress as a book all Americans should read, a book already being discussed in the corridors of the Pentagon as a truly realistic look at a weapon and its awesome power to destroy the entire United States

(From the review)

I would like to go to Congress and mention Cabin in the Woods, a much more realistic scenario.

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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:38:55pm
It’s not just that Jefferson owned slaves, including his own children who were 7/8ths white. Nor was it his letters with the leading men of his day—like George Washington—explaining how owning slaves was better than other investments. Nor was it his ugly and racist description of blacks in Notes From The State of Virginia, where in the 1780s he wrote, “Their griefs are transient. Those numberless afflictions… are less felt, and sooner forgotten with them. In general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection.” Mostly, it was Jefferson’s lifelong belief that slaves could not be freed but had to be deported en masse, because sizeable numbers of ex-slaves would take up arms and annihilate slave-owning whites. These prejudices, fears and draconian remedies reverberate today—such as Donald Trump’s bid to deport 11 million migrants.

rawstory.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:51:56pm

re: #83 Nyet

Yep.

Boils down to a lot of people dead and someone is lying through their teeth about it.

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:57:16pm

Here’s a great chart that breaks out states with lowest-to-highest gun deaths per 100K population - and how difficult it is to buy a gun there.

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Nyet  Oct 4, 2015 • 2:58:22pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Whoa!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:01:37pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Here’s a great chart that breaks out states with lowest-to-highest gun deaths per 100K population - and how difficult it is to buy a gun there.

You can expect the pro-gun crowd to immediately start nit-picking at the statistics used to compile that chart. By the time they’re finished they’ll have a chart that’s totally inverted from this one.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:01:53pm

We’re #1!

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:03:41pm
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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:04:34pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

You can expect the pro-gun crowd to immediately start nit-picking at the statistics used to compile that chart. By the time they’re finished they’ll have a chart that’s totally inverted from this one.

They already have. I’ve seen that chart on my Facebook feed.

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Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:05:26pm

re: #95 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

This Guy Asked the Internet for Photoshop Help. He Instantly Regretted It.

Worth the foray into Clickbait Land.

Asking the internet for anything is bound to be regrettable.
;)

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:06:44pm

Illinois is pretty high on the list despite Chicago, the Most Black on Black Crime Capital of the World.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:13:56pm

re: #98 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

True-but the Chicagoland SMA has the 3rd highest population density, in addition to some good sized cities outside that area.

100
stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:14:47pm

Story about what a lying liar Mat Staver is seems to be getting around in the MSM today.

Law firm labeled hate group leading Davis’ crusade

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EmmaAnne  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:15:17pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Here’s a great chart that breaks out states with lowest-to-highest gun deaths per 100K population - and how difficult it is to buy a gun there.

Colorado is about in the middle. We have had some of the worst mass shootings here, and after the latest (in a movie theater for the Batman opening) the Colorado legislature passed a couple of laws: universal background checks and limits on new purchases of high capacity magazines. That’s it. The result was that two Democrats were recalled and replaced with Republicans, and a third was about to be. She quit so another Democrat could be appointed.

So I would say nothing much will change until people vote based on the issue of gun control - and come out for special elections to do so. Because the opponents sure do.

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ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:15:32pm

I can simplify that chart to what RWNJs and FOX will like.

Same line up, but it goes from Stuff Happens Here to More Stuff Happens Here.

It is all still Stuff Happening.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:17:33pm

re: #98 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Illinois is pretty high on the list despite Chicago, the Most Black on Black Crime Capital of the World.

I also notice that New Hampshire and Washington are towards the safe end of the list while being almost unrestricted. I can kinda understand New Hampshire, but maybe because Eastern Washington is only 20% of the population?

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thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:19:45pm

re: #103 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I also notice that New Hampshire and Washington towards the safe end of the list while being almost unrestricted. I can kinda understand New Hampshire, but maybe because Eastern Washington is only 20% of the population?

Or because the crazy ones all hop across the river to Oregon.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:20:58pm

re: #86 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Spent part of my vacation reading a book that read like right wing trope laced prepper fantasy.

Oh for pity’s sake, EMP burst was anticipated by those who built and tested the first atomic bomb. E1 (Early time) HEMP from an exoatmospheric weapon does pose a threat, but delivering sufficient weapons to completely cripple the US infrastructure would take the efforts of a first world power which would mean that WWIII had broken out and most vertebrates are fucked anyway.

People working themselves up over fantasy threats when GCC is all too real.

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Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:23:51pm

re: #105 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh for pity’s sake, EMP burst was anticipated by those who built and tested the first atomic bomb. E1 (Early time) HEMP from an exoatmospheric weapon does pose a threat, but delivering sufficient weapons to completely cripple the US infrastructure would take the efforts of a first world power which would mean that WWIII had broken out and most vertebrates are fucked anyway.

People working themselves up over fantasy threats when GCC is all too real.

For real.
EMP attack RWNJs describe = WWIII.
All the prepping in the world would mean jack and shit.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:27:28pm

re: #104 thedopefishlives

Or because the crazy ones all hop across the river to Oregon.

Or nobody can tell Eastern Washington from Idaho and they get added to their stats?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:29:16pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

For real.
EMP attack RWNJs describe = WWIII.
All the prepping in the world would mean jack and shit.

If they’re talking about terrorist attacks, the damage from blast effects would be far worse than HEMP damage. HEMP area-effects decline drastically the closer the weapon is detonated to ground level. Wide area-effect HEMP weapons are designed to detonate 18 miles or more above the surface of the Earth. If terrorists have the capability to boost a weapon 18 miles into the sky then we’re also fucked.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:34:38pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!!!!!

[Embedded content]

So, let me get this straight.

The teahadis want Obama to put soldiers in every school? I thought they were against that.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 4, 2015 • 3:40:14pm

There’s a forward by Newt Gingrich. So EMP must be a real threat.


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