Trump: Mass Killers Are “Geniuses,” We Can’t Do Anything to Stop Them

But a giant wall will stop those Mexicans
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Donald Trump constantly promises to build a huge, beautiful wall on America’s southern border that will be infallible at preventing Mexican “rapists and criminals” from entering the US. There’s absolutely no way these illegal aliens will be able to figure out how to get around his gigantic 1500-mile beautiful wall, nope, no sir.

But mass killers? Well, they’re geniuses, you see, and there’s absolutely no way to stop them from getting around any safeguards we put in place, no matter what we do.

“No matter what you do, you’re gonna have problems,” Trump told NBC News in an interview that aired Sunday. “Because you have sick people. They happen to be intelligent. And, you know, they can be sick as hell and they’re geniuses in a certain way. They are going to be able to break the system.”

Determined killers, Trump continued, are still “gonna be able to get into a school or get into something.”

“It’s a horrible thing to say,” he added. “And it’s not even politically correct. But it’s common sense. You’re going to have problems no matter how good, no matter what kind of checks you do, you know, what kind of laws.”

No matter what we do! And especially not laws restricting access to guns. No way that would ever work.

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168 comments
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:49:30am

Leadership. Basically a more detailed version of Jeb saying stuff happens so let’s not do anything.

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freetoken  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:51:06am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Stuff happens, by clever people.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:51:10am

Break the system… as in, purchase guns legally, legally bring them onto a school campus, and remain law-abiding citizens up until the point where they start firing.

Geniuses, truly.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:51:22am

“No matter what you do, you’re gonna have problems, because you have sick people.”

They’re called the Republican voting base

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:52:00am

Right. Geniuses cannot be reasoned with and must be feared. Lets get rid of them. Look how well the GOP is doing along those lines.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:52:26am
You’re going to have problems no matter how good, no matter what kind of checks you do, you know, what kind of laws

Nihilism must look ok from the top.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:54:08am

Yeah, those immigrants will hit the wall and just keep bumping up against it like a badly coded AI enemy in a video game. Pretty soon it will just be front to back Mexicans bumping forward into each other as far as the eye can see from the top of the magnificent wall.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:55:17am

Of all the cognitive dissonance expressed by conservatives, this clunky theme of
“laws don’t work, BUT let’s make laws to control things we don’t like”
has got to be at the top of the list.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:57:36am

Abortions? BAN ‘EM!
Immigration? DEPORT ‘EM!
Drug abuse? JAIL ‘EM!
Energy Independence? DRILL BABY DRILL!
Gun violence? “Look, this is a complex discussion that we can’t rush into…”

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blueraven  Oct 5, 2015 • 10:57:50am

re: #8 jaunte

Of all the cognitive dissonance expressed by conservatives, this clunky theme of
“laws don’t work, BUT let’s make laws to control things we don’t like”
has got to be at the top of the list.

Yeah, like all these laws the states are passing to eliminate “legal” abortion.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:00:04am

The gun lobby has a done an exquisite job of making the perfect the enemy of the good; “Regulation won’t eliminate all gun crimes so don’t bother.” Time to close the courts, disband the cops and open all the prisons because they haven’t eliminated crime either.
We can buy guns with the money we save.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:02:22am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:07:12am

re: #7 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, those immigrants will hit the wall and just keep bumping up against it like a badly coded AI enemy in a video game. Pretty soon it will just be front to back Mexicans bumping forward into each other as far as the eye can see from the top of the magnificent wall.

So, not like the zombies piling up and eventually making it over the wall, like in World War Z?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:07:36am

re: #12 jaunte

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Ha!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:07:52am
“It’s a horrible thing to say,” he added. “And it’s not even politically correct. But it’s common sense. You’re going to have problems no matter how good, no matter what kind of checks you do, you know, what kind of laws.”

See I’m not Politically Correct!!! Hurr hurr!!

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:08:07am

Maybe I’ll stay out of the GMO debate:

End of the article:

Biosecurity Law No. 5977 prohibits the production of GMO foods in Turkey and makes it mandatory to secure permission from the ministry to transport these products through Turkey.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:08:42am

re: #15 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

See I’m not Politically Correct!!! Hurr hurr!!

Seriously it’s like these guys have a chip in their mind. I’m not politically ocrrect yada yada. No asshole, you’re a coward.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:08:57am

re: #12 jaunte

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So true.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:09:49am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

FREEDOM OF THE OPEN ROAD, MAN!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:12:14am

Downstairs there was a discussion of whether or not Americans’ support for gun control was growing or fading. Josh Marshall had an interesting post on that very subject this morning. The key takeaway was that even among Republicans, support for gun control vs. support for gun rights was about 50:50, until 2008, when You Know Who was elected. The graph tells a pretty stark story - it’s now 75:25 for gun rights. Essentially, opposition to any gun control is now part of Republican self-identification, which was not true even as recently as 2007.

Yet another example of how the Right totally lost its shit when Obama was elected.

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Skip Intro  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:13:07am

Jeb Bush Is About to Unveil His Secret Weapon

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:13:16am

re: #19 jaunte

FREEDOM OF THE OPEN ROAD, MAN!!

We might have to drive somewhere to protect our freedom from government tyranny.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:13:42am

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Whenever I see one of these assholes saying he needs an AR-15 to fight “TYRANNY!”, I want to ask him how many cops and US soldiers he’s prepared to kill to do so.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:14:37am

re: #23 Kragar

And how many carrier strike groups he imagines he can hold off.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:15:21am

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Downstairs there was a discussion of whether or not Americans’ support for gun control was growing or fading. Josh Marshall had an interesting post on that very subject this morning. The key takeaway was that even among Republicans, support for gun control vs. support for gun rights was about 50:50, until 2008, when You Know Who was elected. The graph tells a pretty stark story - it’s now 75:25 for gun rights. Essentially, opposition to any gun control is now part of Republican self-identification, which was not true even as recently as 2007.

Yet another example of how the Right totally lost its shit when Obama was elected.

It was like that on a lot of issues.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:15:43am

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

So, not like the zombies piling up and eventually making it over the wall, like in World War Z?

That would be silly

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:15:49am

More cognitive dissonance. Tyrants always have to obey Posse Comitatus.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:17:45am

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

When Obama was elected the entire right wing noise machine went into extremist overdrive, literally overnight. All kinds of stuff they had kept hidden or suppressed just poured out into the open like a noxious tidal wave of sewage.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:20:11am

This seems to be the first tweet containing that doctored image of the Oregon shooter, by the way.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:20:44am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

When Obama was elected the entire right wing noise machine went into extremist overdrive, literally overnight. All kinds of stuff they had kept hidden or suppressed just poured out into the open like a noxious tidal wave of sewage.

The racism being the biggie. I expect we’ll see the sexism or Anti-Semitism if Clinton and Sanders become president.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:21:38am

re: #23 Kragar

Whenever I see one of these assholes saying he needs an AR-15 to fight “TYRANNY!”, I want to ask him how many cops and US soldiers he’s prepared to kill to do so.

PoliceLivesMatter, right up until we have to kill them

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Stuff Happens  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:22:39am

I hate Trump so much I want to vote against him multiple times in all the states I’m still registered in. I WILL NOT do this, for many reason, but I want to.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:23:26am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I remember John Cole positing that with Obama’s election, we’d reached Peak Wingnut, and that things might get more reasonable from that point on.

Cole was SO naive. Unfortunately.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:24:57am

re: #32 Stuff Happens

He might well drop out if he keeps having to deal with people who don’t like him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:25:53am

re: #34 jaunte

He might well drop out if he keeps having to deal with people who don’t like him.

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He’s such a chickenshit coward. But yeah Donald you’re going to deal with Putin and hostile foreign leaders. Riiiiiight.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:26:29am

Mass killers are rare. Focusing the gun control debate on these guys is like focusing breast cancer research on microwave ovens.

62% of gun deaths are suicide. Mostly men. Mental health and guns is a much more important conversation because if we truly want to do anything useful around the shooters themselves then we might want to focus on the reality of who shoots whom and why. Newsflash, it’s not due to anyone being a “genius.”

Intelligence is not the issue here. Except for Trump’s intelligence, which is roughly equivalent to lint.

I lost my 4th dear friend to suicide this weekend. Gun. 4 kids. His 13 year-old found him. He was a lovely, lovely person who everyone adored. He hid how bad he was very well. He was alone in his house and the gun was there. Quick, deadly solution.

I have had ENOUGH of this nonsense about guns. There are too many out there available to too many people who are ill, incompetent, or just general assholes. My tolerance is at an end. If people truly want to stop gun violence, then damn it, help me keep them out of the hands of my friends.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:27:09am

Trump is the awesomiest! He Sayz the thingz every1 is afraidz two say!!!!

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nines09  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:28:37am

Trumps version of “Stuff happens” with a bigger dose of pandering drool.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:29:52am

Trumpmania apparently is finally ebbing. He had already slipped from his high point in the 30% range of support, and the latest poll has him behind Carson as well. Rubio looks well positioned for when amateur hour finally ends.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:30:33am

re: #36 BlueGrl21

So sad. So sorry BG.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:31:05am

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Sorry to hear that. My condolences.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:31:21am

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Mass killers are rare. Focusing the gun control debate on these guys is like focusing breast cancer research on microwave ovens.

62% of gun deaths are suicide. Mostly men. Mental health and guns is a much more important conversation because if we truly want to do anything useful around the shooters themselves then we might want to focus on the reality of who shoots whom and why. Newsflash, it’s not due to anyone being a “genius.”

Intelligence is not the issue here. Except for Trump’s intelligence, which is roughly equivalent to lint.

I lost my 4th dear friend to suicide this weekend. Gun. 4 kids. His 13 year-old found him. He was a lovely, lovely person who everyone adored. He hid how bad he was very well. He was alone in his house and the gun was there. Quick, deadly solution.

I have had ENOUGH of this nonsense about guns. There are too many out there available to too many people who are ill, incompetent, or just general assholes. My tolerance is at an end. If people truly want to stop gun violence, then damn it, help me keep them out of the hands of my friends.

I am so sorry. My thoughts to you and your friend’s family.

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:35:23am

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Nobody wants to talk about suicide OR guns. And they go together WAY too often.

{{{BlueGrl21}}}

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BlueGrl21  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:37:50am

re: #40 Stanley Sea Toujours

Thank you, everyone.

It’s been a rough couple of days to listen to people bleat about politicizing guns and the 2nd Amendment and how guns protect our freedoms, all of that nonsense. I wonder how many of them have had 4 friends, 4 men, all die from a mental illness and a gun that was in the house.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people and they kill themselves with guns the most. My God, have we lost the plot in this debate.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:38:21am

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Sorry to hear that. One of my best friends, a drummer named Carlos Vega who played in James Taylor’s band, committed suicide with a pistol years ago. It was a nightmare.

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ramex  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:40:43am

Common sense = Laws don’t work.

I don’t get it. Are Republicans theocrats or anarchists?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:42:18am

Hearing the Right fall back on Mental Illness as the REAL reason for mass shootings and other gun violence is especially galling because they won’t do anything about THAT, either. And they certainly wouldn’t back any plan to deny guns to anyone currently under treatment for mental illness, so it’s clear what they’re actually doing is just distraction.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:42:23am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

It was like that on a lot of issues.

Like deciding it would be OK to shoot a school.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:42:40am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:42:55am

re: #46 ramex

Common sense = Laws don’t work.

I don’t get it. Are Republicans theocrats or anarchists?

Unless there was a law against abortions. That would totally work.
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:43:25am

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:44:15am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

LET IT BE KNOWN!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:44:49am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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A guy who loved doxxing people is complaining about Gawker doxxing people?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:45:23am

re: #53 Timothy Watson

A guy who loved doxxing people is complaining about Gawker doxxing people?

He’s mad that they beat him to it?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:46:33am

re: #52 Kragar

LET IT BE KNOWN!

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BlueGrl21  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:48:38am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

It’s absolute hell.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:49:43am

re: #56 BlueGrl21

It’s absolute hell.

It was just awful. It was only the second death I had really ever dealt with and it was so sudden too.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 5, 2015 • 11:53:52am

Libertarian gubernatorial candidate sacrifices goat, drinks its blood, still more sane than Trump

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:06:58pm
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Stuff Happens  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:09:56pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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I thought torture was illegal?

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Stuff Happens  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:10:39pm

re: #60 Stuff Happens

I thought torture was illegal?

Di I have to start drinking in the morning now?

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Jayleia  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:11:15pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

MORE OF HIM?

I’m actually glad now that my car payment has eliminated the option of cable TV financially…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:11:16pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

that combined with more chuck todd will definitely make me reconsider my Sirius XM subscription.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:11:27pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:11:49pm

re: #58 It’s on his hat!

Libertarian gubernatorial candidate sacrifices goat, drinks its blood, still more sane than Trump

Actually, he makes Trump look pretty normal. Among other things, he personally wants to start a race war.

I am of genius intellect & cultured, well-educated & creative, well-mannered & refined. I am God’s gift to humankind where the English language is concerned, and I also happen to have a basic knowledge of Latin, Greek, French, Spanish, and Italian. I am musical & artistic; I am athletic & possessed of militant self-discipline; and I am many other things. I have a Cadillac & a poodle, multiple computers & a personal library; I live in an apartment downtown, right across the street from the courthouse; I have been to Paris & Vancouver, to Cairo & Dubrovnik, to Mexico City & Siracusa. I dress better than all of you, pronounce my words perfectly, and have a winning, professional handshake. I am everything you ever wanted to be.

I challenge any of you, then, to accuse me of being a failure in this artificial civilization of yours. For it is beyond dispute that I have played your petty game, and I have won.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:11:50pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

well, that won’t end terribly for Bush III: The Fuckedupness Returns.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:12:00pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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I’m thrilled. Thrilled like I am to go to the dentist.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:13:52pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

I saw that article on Facebook this morning and my first comment was that the goat sacrifice was burying the lead of the guy being an avowed fascist.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:16:05pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

Actually, he makes Trump look pretty normal. He wants to start a race war.

He sounds like he took humility courses from CCJ.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:16:37pm

re: #66 KGxvi

well, that won’t end terribly for Bush III: The Fuckedupness Returns.

In February, Bush’s campaign released the names of 21 of his current advisers, 17 of them worked in his brother’s administration. Now it will be 18. Wonder how Jeb pissed in Cheney’s Cheerios.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:16:42pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

if that link doesn’t go to a story about Scarborough sending unsolicited pictures of his, um, manhood, then I’m going to be disappointed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:16:58pm

So in an OT note, this weekend was a good weekend for finding misplaced items. Two shirts I really like and my spare SD card for my camera.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:17:34pm

re: #70 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In February, Bush’s campaign released the names of 21 of his current advisers, 17 of them worked in his brother’s administration. Now it will be 18. Wonder how Jeb pissed in Cheney’s Cheerios.

18/21. Sheesh.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:18:28pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

18 of 22 are good number for a quarterback or a basketball player from the field. Sadly, Jeb is neither of those things.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:20:06pm

re: #74 KGxvi

18 of 22 are good number for a quarterback or a basketball player from the field. Sadly, Jeb is neither of those things.

Well if his brother’s administration had been successful too. It’s going to be hilarious if Jeb ends up being the nominee trying to sell himself as an outsider.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:20:16pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:21:53pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Is she running for head of the debate team?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:21:58pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Shit I guess I’m qualified to stop Communism since I’ve taken extensive courses in modern European history. Fiorina again is showing why she shouldn’t be running anything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:22:08pm

re: #76 Kragar

Maybe she will say that their resistance is feudal?
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:22:45pm

re: #76 Kragar

Here I thought that Stanford was a pretty good school.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:22:50pm

My history degree didn’t even get me into the State Department and Carly thinks medival history which is a totally different character from ISIS qualifies her to be CoC? Okaaaaaaaaaaay.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:23:06pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe she will say that their resistance is feudal?
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SHe’s going to go medival on their asses.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:23:09pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Shit I guess I’m qualified to stop Communism since I’ve taken extensive courses in modern European history. Fiorina again is showing why she shouldn’t be running anything.

To be fair, it’s more related to the job of governing than being a brain surgeon.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:23:09pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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Oh no I will not be seeing more Joke Scarborough. I will be watching less MSNBC.

By the way, the comments should be read by the NBC News honchos. There’s only a few right now, but they are all similar. Some are saying CNN is FOX lite and now MSNBC is CNN lite. Uggh.

Gonna be relying more and more on The Lizard Channel…right here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:23:19pm

It will be a dark age for ISIS if Carly becomes president.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:23:30pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, it’s more related to the job of governing than being a brain surgeon.

True that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:24:30pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

True that.

Especially a brain surgeon who denies the most important bedrock of modern biology.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:25:19pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially a brain surgeon who denies the most important bedrock of modern biology.

Yeah someone needs to ask Carson what on earth qualifies him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:27:14pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

It will be a dark age for ISIS if Carly becomes prescient.

Hey, if she were prescient, she wouldn’t have wasted her time running against Boxer. And she’d have known how howlingly funny people would find the Demon Sheep ad!
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:28:16pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, if she were prescient, she wouldn’t have wasted her time running against Boxer. And she’d have known how howlingly funny people would find the Demon Sheep ad!
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Ha typo. But man that Boxer ad makes me laugh whenever I thnk about it.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:28:20pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Her wooden horse will be covered with pergo tiling?

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:29:46pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Yeah someone needs to ask Carson what on earth qualifies him.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:30:24pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

SHe’s going to go medival on their asses.

Gonna party like it’s 1399

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:30:38pm

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

He is on a mission from God.//

That prankster told Huckabee the same thing. I am sure Cruz too.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:31:47pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I take it back: considering the number of inept rulers and mental defectives who were in power, and considering the numbers of pardoners, false priests, fools, flagellants, penitents, con men, mercenaries, freebooters and pirates that lived during the Medieval era I’d say that Fiorina felt right at home in those classes.

It’s a shame there were no Methodists then.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:33:13pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Ha typo. But man that Boxer ad makes me laugh whenever I thnk about it.

Rally was running a very un-pc commercial during the football games Sunday featuring scantily clad Mexican and Texas women playing volleyball using the border wall as a net.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:34:26pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

That prankster told Huckabee the same thing. I am sure Cruz too.

Also Perry, Santorum, Jindal, Bachmann and Cain. God definitely has a sense of humor.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:35:33pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Andrew Lack, who supervises MSNBC and NBC News, called the show “the most influential” morning cable news program on television, and said the network was considering how to expand the program, although a plan hadn’t been finalized.

What sort of crack is Andrew Lack smoking?! Seriously, I think Joe Scarborough must have blackmail material on the MSNBC execs.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:37:08pm

re: #97 Big Beautiful Door

Also Perry, Santorum, Jindal, Bachmann and Cain. God definitely has a sense of humor.

A merry prankster.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:38:37pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

Actually, he makes Trump look pretty normal. Among other things, he personally wants to start a race war.

Is that suppose to be a parody of the Major-General’s Song?

I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I’ve information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;a
I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news, (bothered for a rhyme)
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.

en.wikipedia.org

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Black Skeleton d20  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:40:11pm

re: #58 It’s on his hat!

Man, the Unconquered Sun’s really let himself go between editions. </obscuretabletopgamerreference>

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:40:34pm

re: #98 Dr. Matt

What sort of crack is Andrew Lack smoking?! Seriously, I think Joe Scarborough must have blackmail material on the MSNBC execs.

Wha? You don’t believe that we Californians are feeling deprived because they aren’t getting their Scarborough on? I’ve lost track of how many times people have told me that they’d like some more Pat Buchanan only without the old man smell. This is genius!

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:44:00pm

New in pages:
Local theocrats all over the country seem to be outdoing each other in the bat guano insanity of their responses to same sex marriage.

Tennessee County Drafts Resolution Begging to Be Spared From God’s Wrath

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:44:46pm

re: #58 It’s on his hat!

Libertarian gubernatorial candidate sacrifices goat, drinks its blood, still more sane than Trump

Nice try for the GOP VP nom.

105
Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:45:34pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:47:26pm

11-year-old ‘bully’ murdered 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun after dispute over puppy: police

An 11-year-old Tennessee boy has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting death of an 8-year-old neighbor girl.

The Jefferson County sheriff said the boy, whose name has not been released, used his father’s 12-gauge single-shot shotgun to kill his next-door neighbor, McKayla Dyer.

The girl had been outside playing about 7:30 p.m. Saturday when the older boy asked to see her puppy, but she told him no, said Latasha Dyer, the girl’s mother.

She said the boy, who had bullied her daughter since moving to the mobile home park in White Pine, went home to get the shotgun and then shot her daughter in the chest.

Aaaaand this:

NRA News Commentary: School Shootings Happen Because Kids Don’t “Respect” Firearms

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:48:18pm

basically, to accept the theory that mass murder is purely a psychological issue, you have to accept the proposition that americans are significantly crazier than other people

108
Romantic Heretic  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:48:49pm

re: #46 ramex

Common sense = Laws don’t work.

I don’t get it. Are Republicans theocrats or anarchists?

Yes.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:48:56pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:51:09pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

New in pages:
Local theocrats all over the country seem to be outdoing each other in the bat guano insanity of their responses to same sex marriage.

Tennessee County Drafts Resolution Begging to Be Spared From God’s Wrath

Anyone else have problems with worshiping a deity that would wipe out a whole county because 2% of its population could now be legally married?

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:52:07pm

re: #106 Dr. Matt

11-year-old ‘bully’ murdered 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun after dispute over puppy: police

Aaaaand this:

NRA News Commentary: School Shootings Happen Because Kids Don’t “Respect” Firearms

I guess the kids parents are going to be getting a lesson about gun safety, etc.

That poor little girl’s family must be distraught beyond belief. Their daughter killed over a puppy by another kid.

Fucking Stuff Happens.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:52:34pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Agreed. No words.

All sorts of snarky comments ran through my head after reading that, because the only way I can deal with this sort of shit is black humor. But I stopped short of posting anything. I think I’m done with this for today. Time to put my head down, concentrate on getting some work done, and then play with the 11-year-old, 8-year-old, and puppy in my own home.

I need to cherish what I have and that it hasn’t been taken away by needless violence.

Later, Lizards.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:52:44pm

re: #110 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Anyone else have problems with worshiping a deity that would wipe out a whole county because 2% of its population could now be legally married?

Note that they invoked the Passover Lamb for protection. Maybe they should get in touch with that goat-sacrificing guy.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:53:34pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Leadership. Basically a more detailed version of Jeb saying stuff happens so let’s not do anything.

No, it’s dishonest in a way Bush was not. Jeb’s basic point, which didn’t initially get broadcast, was that government shouldn’t necessarily change the law because something really bad happens. Sometimes the solution is not to be found in the law, and other times hastily-enacted laws make things worse in ways not foreseen when they were enacted.

Agree or disagree with Jeb, his basic point was defensible. Trump’s is not. He’s basically just spewing BS to avoid talking about a difficult topic on which he reversed himself in order to run for the Republican nomination. what he says is transparently untrue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:54:23pm

It’s just terrible. We really need to do something but I’d be shocked if we did. Why? Because the politicians get intimidated by the gun lobby and are petrified of being labeld “gun grabbers”. As I siad downstairs, Hillary Clinton is 100% right, we need a movement to counter the NRA.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:54:54pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

Actually, he makes Trump look pretty normal. Among other things, he personally wants to start a race war.

“I do not want you to vote, so much as I want you to wake up. I want you to drop out and tune in. I want you to take LSD and practice sorcery. I want you to listen to trap music and black metal, to learn the law and to break it deliberately, to find your own religion. I want you to learn the use of firearms and subject yourselves to rigorous physical training. I want you to treat your bodies as Holy Temples and to take your girlfriend to a strip club so you can seduce a dancer in the back room. I want you to worship Nature and dance naked in the moonlight ‘round the fire, screaming in ecstatic joy. I want you to revolt. Raise Hell. Break your limitations. Renounce your life and go into the Wilderness, that God may speak to you of things to come.”

i might consider voting for him, but i think it would be more appropriate to eat his heart while it’s still beating

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:54:55pm

re: #107 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

basically, to accept the theory that mass murder is purely a psychological issue, you have to accept the proposition that americans are significantly crazier than other people

Right now, I am having a difficult time denying that Americans are crazier than people of other nations.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:55:04pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

No, it’s dishonest in a way Bush was not. Jeb’s basic point, which didn’t initially get broadcast, was that government shouldn’t necessarily change the law because something really bad happens. Sometimes the solution is not to be found in the law, and other times hastily-enacted laws make things worse in ways not foreseen when they were enacted.

Agree or disagree with Jeb, his basic point was defensible. Trump’s is not. He’s basically just spewing BS to avoid talking about a difficult topic on which he reversed himself in order to run for the Republican nomination. what he says is transparently untrue.

But yet the tragedies happen all the time so no despite your attempts to justify what Jeb said, it was a cowardly statement on his part. Just stop it already.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:55:36pm

re: #115 Timothy Watson

Are the 11-year-old’s parents in jail yet, and if no, why not?

They would be if they had given him the keys to their pickup and sent him to the store for a 6-pack of beer.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:57:26pm

re: #106 Dr. Matt

Those poor kids: one is dead and the other is becoming a person of color and a Democrat.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:58:06pm

DF, if a Democratic candidate had said something like terrorism happened after 9/11, you would be over that candidate and saying they didn’t care about preventing terrorism so why is it okay for Jeb to basically shrug off gun violence, something I might strongly add kills far more Americans every year than terrorism as “something happens.” It was a statement made by a man who represents a party who is the gun lobby’s backscratcher.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2015 • 12:58:46pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

I guess the kids parents are going to be getting a lesson about gun safety, etc.

That poor little girl’s family must be distraught beyond belief. Their daughter killed over a puppy by another kid.

Fucking Stuff Happens.

The 11 year old is a “genius”.

125
Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:00:10pm

re: #106 Dr. Matt

11-year-old ‘bully’ murdered 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun after dispute over puppy: police

Aaaaand this:

NRA News Commentary: School Shootings Happen Because Kids Don’t “Respect” Firearms

The responsibility for this murder lies with the father who allowed his son access to his gun. The boy’s dad should be held criminally libel.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:03:52pm

German General Erich von Manstein was a genius at all levels of war. But the Red Army still stopped his corps short of Leningrad (now St. Petersburg) in 1941. By Trump’s logic they should not have been able to do that, but luckily for Russia and for the world the armor of the KV-1 tanks guarding the approaches to the city and the courage of their crews was much stronger than lame-ass DERP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:05:48pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

No, it’s dishonest in a way Bush was not. Jeb’s basic point, which didn’t initially get broadcast, was that government shouldn’t necessarily change the law because something really bad happens. Sometimes the solution is not to be found in the law, and other times hastily-enacted laws make things worse in ways not foreseen when they were enacted.

Agree or disagree with Jeb, his basic point was defensible. Trump’s is not. He’s basically just spewing BS to avoid talking about a difficult topic on which he reversed himself in order to run for the Republican nomination. what he says is transparently untrue.

Okay, so how about if enacting a gun control law is done NOW in response to, say, Sandy Hook? Is THAT enough time?

Seriously, it’s not a defensible answer, because these things KEEP HAPPENING. It’s another mealy-mouthed excuse to do nothing, like saying “It’s too soon to talk about gun control” after ANOTHER mass shooting, knowing that long before it would become acceptable that 1) interest would fade and 2) there’d be another shooting, resetting the ‘Too Soon’ clock.

Gutless, mealymouthed chump answer.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:07:15pm

re: #125 Big Beautiful Door

The responsibility for this murder lies with the father who allowed his son access to his gun. The boy’s dad should be held criminally libel.

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur. Children should not be allowed unsupervised access to firearms.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:08:25pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, so how about if enacting a gun control law is done NOW in response to, say, Sandy Hook? Is THAT enough time?

Seriously, it’s not a defensible answer, because these things KEEP HAPPENING. It’s another mealy-mouthed excuse to do nothing, like saying “It’s too soon to talk about gun control” after ANOTHER mass shooting, knowing that long before it would become acceptable that 1) interest would fade and 2) there’d be another shooting, resetting the ‘Too Soon’ clock.

Gutless, mealymouthed chump answer.

Precisely. These things keep on happening. Bush isn’t being a leader. He’s being beholden to a party and ideology that frankly shows itself to be idiferent to the wave of gun violence.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:08:35pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur. Children should not be allowed unsupervised access to firearms.

An 11 year old being able to access a shotgun and ammo proves negligence on the part of the parents

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:09:06pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

an 11-year-old child getting access to a loaded fire arm pretty much falls into the category of res ipsa loquitar if you want to talk about negligence.

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stpaulbear  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:09:06pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur. Children should not be allowed unsupervised access to firearms.

Is there any question that the dead 8 year old girl is enough proof of negligence?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:09:56pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur. Children should not be allowed unsupervised access to firearms.

Giving an 11 year old access to a gun should be seen as negilence. You wouldn’t let an 11 year old operate a motor vehicle would you or heavy machinery?

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:10:12pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

No, it’s dishonest in a way Bush was not. Jeb’s basic point, which didn’t initially get broadcast, was that government shouldn’t necessarily change the law because something really bad happens. Sometimes the solution is not to be found in the law, and other times hastily-enacted laws make things worse in ways not foreseen when they were enacted.

Agree or disagree with Jeb, his basic point was defensible. Trump’s is not. He’s basically just spewing BS to avoid talking about a difficult topic on which he reversed himself in order to run for the Republican nomination. what he says is transparently untrue.

Excuse Jeb! all you want but that statement was tone deaf. He does this shit all the time. Either he cannot think on his feet or he has an attitude that allows him to be reckless with what he says. I’m going with him having an attitude that disregards people not of his gentry. He is a prick…and it is coming to be evident.

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rhuarc  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:10:22pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Are 11 year old legally allowed to buy and own a shotgun in Tennessee? If no, then the parents are negligent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:10:39pm

re: #130 Kragar

An 11 year old being able to access a shotgun and ammo proves negligence on the part of the parents

Vey much agreed. 11 year olds shouldn’t be having access to guns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:10:51pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur. Children should not be allowed unsupervised access to firearms.

Yeah, good luck with that. The response will be “We don’t need laws to lock up firearms. We need responsible parents! My kids would never touch my guns without permission”

But I guarantee that’s exactly what this little killer’s parents would say, too.

The other response would be that you can’t require people to lock their guns up, because “if they need them, they need them RIGHT NOW!!!!! and if you require them to lock them up, people will DIE unlocking their gun safes!!!!!”

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:10:54pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Provided it can be proved he was negligent, then I concur.

Dead kid. Killed by another kid.

What more fucking proof do you need?

139
CriticalDragon1177  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:12:40pm

Yes Donald Trump, we can’t stop mass shooting, but building an impractical giant fence around the border will stop all the illegals, just putting any restrictions on guns won’t stop criminals from getting their hands on them, but outlawing abortion will stop every single women from every having one, or wanting to have one, somehow. Forget facts, forget evidence, forget logic!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:12:52pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

Excuse Jeb! all you want but that statement was tone deaf. He does this shit all the time. Either he cannot think on his feet or he has an attitude that allows him to be reckless with what he says. I’m going with him having an attitude that disregards people not of his gentry. He is a prick…and it is coming to be evident.

He is a prick and no different from Donald. Perhaps worse in some ways.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:13:34pm

re: #138 makeitstop

Dead kid. Killed by another kid.

What more fucking proof do you need?

It is possible that the kid’s mother gave the kid the gun behind the dad’s back, which would make her criminally liable instead of the father, legally speaking. Just a hypothetical, and an unlikely one at that.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:14:03pm

Enough is enough.

I have been trying to figure out what to do with my AK-47. Selling it is out of the question and I have wanted to keep it as a historical artifact and collector’s item. There is a solution however: I am going to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, by deactivating it TODAY. This involves drilling out the firing pin and breechblock, and plugging and slotting the barrel. Re-activating it would practically require making a new one from scratch. I might regret this if I am ambushed by terrorists here in Palo Pinto County, but otherwise it is a hazard and a personal inconsistency resolved and eliminated.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:15:01pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

Enough is enough.

I have been trying to figure out what to do with my AK-47. Selling it is out of the question but I have wanted to keep it as a historical artifact and collector’s item. There is a solution however: I am going to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, by deactivating it TODAY. This involves drilling out the firing pin and breechblock, and plugging and slotting the barrel. Re-activating it would practically require making a new one from scratch. I might regret this if I am ambushed by terrorists here in Palo Pinto County, but otherwise it is a hazard and a personal inconsistency resolved and eliminated.

Respect.

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Kragar  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:15:58pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

Enough is enough.

I have been trying to figure out what to do with my AK-47. Selling it is out of the question but I have wanted to keep it as a historical artifact and collector’s item. There is a solution however: I am going to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, by deactivating it TODAY. This involves drilling out the firing pin and breechblock, and plugging and slotting the barrel. Re-activating it would practically require making a new one from scratch. I might regret this if I am ambushed by terrorists here in Palo Pinto County, but otherwise it is a hazard and a personal inconsistency resolved and eliminated.

A buddy of mine was whining about how he wanted an AK for “home defense”

My response: “Do you get many bands of roving bandits hitting your part of San Diego?”

145
CuriousLurker  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:16:09pm

Well, this is disturbing:

For Marine Le Pen, Migration Is a Ready-Made Issue

AMIENS, France — At a recent campaign rally in this economically gloomy northern city, Marine Le Pen, the gravel-voiced leader of the far-right National Front party, barely mentioned the word migrant. But, then again, she did not have to.

The supporters who turned out for her at the event here along the Somme river brought up their fear of migrants, unprompted. Ms. Le Pen’s presence alone seemed enough to evoke it.

“They are going to invade us. Then, there really will be unemployment,” said Christian Sobo, a retired building worker. “There is more help for them than for us, the French.”

His wife, Katia, chimed in, mentioning Adolf Hitler: “What he did was monstrous. But we need someone with as much force as him now.” […]

They need someone with as much force as Hitler. Let that sink in for a minute. Maybe I should page this one…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:16:35pm

re: #144 Kragar

A buddy of mine was whining about how he wanted an AK for “home defense”

My response: “Do you get many bands of roving bandits hitting your part of San Diego?”

That’s how I feel about most gun hoarders who claim they own for protection.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:17:09pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Well, this is disturbing:

They need someone with as much force as Hitler. Let that sink in for a minute. Maybe I should page this one…

Fuck.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:17:57pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

Enough is enough.

I have been trying to figure out what to do with my AK-47. Selling it is out of the question but I have wanted to keep it as a historical artifact and collector’s item. There is a solution however: I am going to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, by deactivating it TODAY. This involves drilling out the firing pin and breechblock, and plugging and slotting the barrel. Re-activating it would practically require making a new one from scratch. I might regret this if I am ambushed by terrorists here in Palo Pinto County, but otherwise it is a hazard and a personal inconsistency resolved and eliminated.

Good for you. Only a few hundred million more to go.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:20:10pm

re: #132 stpaulbear

Is there any question that the dead 8 year old girl is enough proof of negligence?

No, but only because its possible that the gun was locked up but the bully figured out where a spare key was kept. It’s unlikely, but its a base a prosecutor would have to cover.

Please forgive me when I hedge on legal matters, as my father trained practiced as a lawyer (though he ultimately found his calling elsewhere) and I know and am related to a number of other lawyers. I’m often legalistic in my thinking about criminal cases.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:21:49pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

That someone is actually willing to say that shit out loud is—*smh*

Mentioning the monstrousness of what Hitler did should never be followed with “but…”

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Tigger2  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:21:51pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

That’s how I feel about most gun hoarders who claim they own for protection.

What they don’t understand when they say they want to defend is that in most instances of violence the attacker has the advantage of surprise on his side and the victim on the most part doesn’t have time to defend.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:21:59pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

That’s how I feel about most gun hoarders who claim they own for protection.

The general gun hoarder mentality: They buy one firearm and fantasize about using said firearm to fend off home intruders, or carjackers, or invading foreign armies. Of course, none of the aforementioned occurs, but the fantasies intensify. So, they go out and purchase a second firearm. Fantasies continue and again they continue to be safe and the firearms unused against bad guys. Another firearm, more fantasies, but nada. And they sick, perverse circle continues over and over.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:22:45pm

I’l be keeping my manual action guns, especially my prized single shot rifles. It occurred to me that the last mass shooter who used a manual action gun was the Texas Tower sniper back in 1966 and even he had a semi-auto on hand as well. As far as I can determine, every single one of the many maniacs since has used semi-autos of one kind or another.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:22:51pm

re: #150 CuriousLurker

in France no less.

155
HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:23:30pm

re: #154 KGxvi

in France no less.

Unfortunately a good amount of French did a collaborate with the Nazis. Perhaps this woman is a descendant of individuals.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:23:50pm

re: #152 Dr. Matt

The general gun hoarder mentality: They buy one firearm and fantasize about using said firearm to fend off home intruders, or carjackers, or invading foreign armies. Of course, none of the aforementioned occurs, but the fantasies intensify. So, they go out and purchase a second firearm. Fantasies continue and again they continue to be safe and the firearms unused against bad guys. Another firearm, more fantasies, but nada. And they sick, perverse circle continues over and over.

And then there is another massacre, and they say “Shoot, I better get that gun I’ve been eyeing before its banned!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:24:12pm

re: #152 Dr. Matt

They also get caught up in the ‘they’re coming for my guns, so I need more guns to defend my guns’ nonsense.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:24:32pm

re: #150 CuriousLurker

That someone is actually willing to say that shit out loud is—*smh*

Mentioning the monstrousness of what Hitler should never be followed with “but…”

I am actually listening to Ian Kershaw’s Hitler biography as we speak.it amazes me how in the 21st century and with tons of visual evidnece of the Nazis evils that some people openly hark for a new Hitler.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:25:43pm

re: #151 Tigger2

What they don’t understand when they say they want to defend is that in most instances of violence the attacker has the advantage and the victim most of the time doesn’t have time to defend.

re: #152 Dr. Matt

The general gun hoarder mentality: They buy one firearm and fantasize about using said firearm to fend off home intruders, or carjackers, or invading foreign armies. Of course, none of the aforementioned occurs, but the fantasies intensify. So, they go out and purchase a second firearm. Fantasies continue and again they continue to be safe and the firearms unused against bad guys. Another firearm, more fantasies, but nada. And they sick, perverse circle continues over and over.

You both are absoultely right. I tink it’s a dangerous mentality and worse is how many politicians pander to it.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:26:25pm

re: #154 KGxvi

in France no less.

Le Pen’s father was bad news and she’s no better, she just packages and markets it differently.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:27:48pm

re: #160 CuriousLurker

Le Pen’s father was bad news and she’s no better, she just packages and markets it differently.

A modern Eurofascist.

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Tigger2  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:32:34pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

A modern Eurofascist.

That protect shit is a dream, My house was shot at a few years back, and they were gone before It even registered in my mind what was going on. I didn’t have time to protect,

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:33:21pm

re: #162 Tigger2

That protect shit is a dream, My house was shot at a few years back, and they were gone before It even registered in my mind what was going on. I didn’t have time to protect,

Of course it is. It’s a fantasy.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:34:57pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

I’l be keeping my manual action guns, especially my prized single shot rifles. It occurred to me that the last mass shooter who used a manual action gun was the Texas Tower sniper back in 1966 and even he had a semi-auto on hand as well. As far as I can determine, every single one of the many maniacs since has used semi-autos of one kind or another.

And the reason mass-killers are using semi-automatics is _____________________________.

Fill in the blank. I think there is much to be found in the answers and how it all is related to the gun control debate.

And, the second amendment does not mention semi- or automatic guns.

And as Dark posted, he likes to stick to the original constitution and since semi- and automatic guns were not around at the time of the constitutional convention I am betting Dark and other’s that have issues with gun control, will have no problem not allowing them. /

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:38:54pm
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Dark_Falcon  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:52:48pm

re: #165 Dave In Austin

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Lucky you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2015 • 1:55:19pm

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Shit, at those prices, go high-test!

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nkdee  Oct 5, 2015 • 2:09:12pm

Donald Trump! Locking up one more voting block—-mass murderers. Who wouldn’t vote for a guy that thinks their geniuses! Next up unrepentant domestic abusers and drunk drivers.


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