Kevin McCarthy Compares House Republicans to Alcoholics: “Sometimes You Have to Hit Rock Bottom”

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In an interview with National Review, Rep. Kevin McCarthy called out the “House Freedom Caucus” (otherwise known as the “Kamikaze Caucus”) for “going into lockdown mode” and demanding things McCarthy didn’t want to deliver.

But the best part is how he — very appropriately — compared the Tea Party dead-enders to a bunch of alcoholics not ready to stop drinking yet:

Asked if the House is governable, he says, “I don’t know. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom.”

Jump to bottom

285 comments
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:50:08pm

Didn’t Boehner get read the Riot Act by the conservative press for similar remarks awhile back?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:52:22pm

Ouch. But this confirms what a lot of us have felt. This is a natural consequence of pandering to these dumbasses all these years instead of calling it out.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:52:33pm
In an interview with National Review, Rep. Kevin McCarthy called out the “House Freedom Caucus” (otherwise known as the “Kamikaze Caucus”) for “going into lockdown mode” and demanding things McCarthy didn’t want to deliver.

Shots fired.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:52:59pm
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:54:29pm

As a few others have pointed out on Twitter and elsewhere, the problem is that the GOP has far from hit rock bottom. I think there’s a few of them who think that they can dig even deeper.

And you’ve got theocrats like Huckabee cheering them on with his inane “burn it down” rhetoric, which makes you wonder why they hate America so much that they’d put the credit rating of the nation at risk with a default (because the debt ceiling debate is about to be rejoined, again), and you’ve got a small cadre of GOP extremists who actually want to smash the safety net and slash and burn government programs for the sake of burning it down - or at least sabotaging those programs so they can hold them up as a self-fulfilling prophesy that government doesn’t work so they can reduce spending.

Never mind that most of those behind this nonsense are coming from states that benefit from federal government spending - they get more in federal money than they give to the feds.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:55:22pm

They won’t be happy until they have shut down the government again and taken the nation to the brink of debt default. Because who knows? Maybe this time the Dems will agree to defund PP and Obamacare!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:57:12pm

The question is whether the House GOP Leadership knuckles under to the crazies, or goes, hat in hand, to the Democrats.

“Which do you choose? Bongo? Or Death?”

“Death!”

“DEATH BY BONGO!!!!”

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:57:14pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Ouch. But this confirms what a lot of us have felt. This is a natural consequence of pandering to these dumbasses all these years instead of calling it out.

This is the logical outcome of the Hastert Rule. Whenever you need most of your party to get something done, it allows the minority to be in control.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:57:26pm
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:58:39pm

From comments at TownHall. Right wing constituents nowhere near hitting bottom; they see this as an opportunity to get someone who will “stand up” to the Democrats and the media.


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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:59:42pm

Carson said twice this week that the victims in last week’s Oregon community college shooting should have tried to tackle the gunman and would not “just stand there and let him shoot me.”

That’s exactly how Army veteran Chris Mintz got shot seven times and wounded during the massacre — although Carson admits he had never heard of him until a reporter asked.

So what happened when Carson allegedly faced just such a threat? He directed the gunman’s attention to an employee of the fast food restaurant.

“I just said, ‘I believe that you want the guy behind the counter,’” Carson said.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:00:18pm

re: #10 jaunte

“Finally a shot for a Real Conservative!”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:00:52pm

re: #12 Kragar

Searching for the Maginot Candidate.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:02:04pm
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piratedan  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:02:06pm

re: #10 jaunte

just wow….

these fuckers want a nice 1890 model of America, where blacks and other minorities knew their place, women didn’t have the vote and we were nicely isolated from the worries of the world and they could simply believe that their faith in God and their Colt 45 were all that was needed to live a happy life.

what a bunch of delusional fucks….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:02:21pm

LOL!

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:04:01pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:04:12pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:04:32pm

ryan doesnt want to be speaker cuz it will upset his finely calibrated plans to further fellate corporations via the tax code

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:04:36pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:05:00pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:05:14pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Will Ryan take enough stupid pills to accept this thankless job? Stay tuned!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:06:47pm

re: #21 jaunte

No just cut the spending and show leadership and stuff.
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:07:51pm

re: #23 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Whaddaya mean we have to pay higher interest rates if we refuse to pay our debts?”

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:07:55pm

re: #5 lawhawk

As a few others have pointed out on Twitter and elsewhere, the problem is that the GOP has far from hit rock bottom. I think there’s a few of them who think that they can dig even deeper.

And you’ve got theocrats like Huckabee cheering them on with his inane “burn it down” rhetoric, which makes you wonder why they hate America so much that they’d put the credit rating of the nation at risk with a default (because the debt ceiling debate is about to be rejoined, again), and you’ve got a small cadre of GOP extremists who actually want to smash the safety net and slash and burn government programs for the sake of burning it down - or at least sabotaging those programs so they can hold them up as a self-fulfilling prophesy that government doesn’t work so they can reduce spending.

Never mind that most of those behind this nonsense are coming from states that benefit from federal government spending - they get more in federal money than they give to the feds.

Another reason the GOP is far from hitting rock bottom is simply that it has enough power to be deemed “successful” by media, donors etc.

The GOP might reform if one of these extremists becomes the GOP POTUS candidate and the party suffers an unmitigated election disaster (e.g., loss of both houses of Congress, and 5 or less states in the electoral college).

However, it is not possible for the GOP to have a loss of this magnitude.

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blueraven  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:09:26pm

Trump takes credit for McCarthy dropping out of Speaker race. (of course)

Claims he said recently “you need someone tough and smart for Speaker”.

Trump: Kick em when they’re down.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:09:26pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:10:03pm

re: #10 jaunte

From comments at TownHall. Right wing constituents nowhere near hitting bottom; they see this as an opportunity to get someone who will “stand up” to the Democrats and the media.

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These people seem to believe that (1) No one is really conservative enough for them, including most GOPers, and that (2) They will soon control Congress and the Presidency.

Someone’s gonna be disappointed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:10:08pm

The RS article about the guys who overthrew Boehner makes the good point that the Liberty Caucus or whatever they call themselves is overwhelmingly male and white and represents a part of the country far more Republican than average than even for your average House GOPer. They flat out don’t care about governing. They care about opposing anything liberal and Democratic.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:10:21pm

re: #14 Kragar

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I don’t know which is funnier to contemplate: Ryan telling him where to stick the suggestion, or Ryan being opposed by the wingnuts for being “too moderate.”

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:11:01pm

re: #28 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

These people seem to believe that (1) No one is really conservative enough for them, including most GOPers, and that (2) They will soon control Congress and the Presidency.

Someone’s gonna be disappointed.

I hope it’s not America.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:11:08pm

re: #21 jaunte

*whispers* Ryan would still have to raise the debt limit *whispers*

probably this is why nobody wants the job

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:11:53pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

The RS article about the guys who overthrew Boehner makes the good point that the Liberty Caucus or whatever they call themselves is overwhelmingly male and white and represents a part of the country far more Republican than average than even for your average House GOPer. They flat out don’t care about governing. They care about opposing anything liberal and Democratic.

Of course they don’t care about governing. After all, win or lose, they’re still gonna get reelected. And if not them, then someone even more batshit insane than them.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:11:54pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

The RS article about the guys who overthrew Boehner makes the good point that the Liberty Caucus or whatever they call themselves is overwhelmingly male and white and represents a part of the country far more Republican than average than even for your average House GOPer. They flat out don’t care about governing. They care about opposing anything liberal and Democratic.

No, they oppose anything smacking of sanity. They oppose the GOP, too. They oppose America.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:12:13pm

re: #32 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

probably this is why nobody wants the job

No one wants the job because no one wants to deal with Jimmy Jordan and his gang of assholes who want to govern like a YouTube comment section.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:12:27pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Of course they don’t care about governing. After all, win or lose, they’re still gonna get reelected. And if not them, then someone even more batshit insane than them.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:12:49pm

re: #34 WhatEVs

No, they oppose anything smacking of sanity. They oppose the GOP, too. They oppose America.

This is true too. They oppose anything sensible because they don’t live in reality.

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blueraven  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:13:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:15:09pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

This is true too. They oppose anything sensible because they don’t live in reality.

Reality is just a crutch for people who can’t handle drugs True Conservatism!!!!

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:17:10pm

How perfect this strip feels, barring for the difference that Opus is running for the presidency rather than Speakership:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:17:25pm

The thing I can gather is these are intelligent enough guys but they just don’t care whether because of narrow minded ideology, connections to interests (RS mentions that Cruz’s big benefactor owes the IRS quite a bit in back taxes), genuine fear that they’ll get primaried giving that they have no worry about strong Dem opposition, etc.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:17:36pm

Tell me again how the “Leftist Fringe” is as bad as the Right.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:18:36pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

Tell me again how the “Leftist Fringe” is as bad as the Right.

or as powerful.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:19:36pm

It looks to me as though Planned Parenthood took out the Republicans.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:20:05pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

The thing I can gather is these are intelligent enough guys but they just don’t care whether because of narrow minded ideology, connections to interests (RS mentions that Cruz’s big benefactor owes the IRS quite a bit in back taxes), genuine fear that they’ll get primaried giving that they have no worry about strong Dem opposition, etc.

The GOP celebrated back in 2011 because they’d gerrymandered themselves into a position where, no matter how well the showing was of Democrats on Election Day, they could be guaranteed the House majority for 10 years.

I think it has finally settled in that, with that move, they sealed their fate as a legitimate political party.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:20:47pm

Boehner can’t stand up to the crazies in his own party to have a smooth transition. He should honor his commitment to himself and retire like he said he would-otherwise it proves that once again, you can’t trust what any GOPer says.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:21:36pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

It looks to me as though Planned Parenthood took out the Republicans.

Planned Benghazi Parenthood you mean

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:21:58pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

Boehner can’t stand up to the crazies in his own party to have a smooth transition. He should honor his commitment to himself and retire like he said he would-otherwise it proves that once again, you can’t trust what any GOPer says.

I don’t think he can…unless he dies or becomes incapacitated, he’s there for the duration…or until the GOP gets its shit together. Yeah, the duration.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:22:45pm

So Boehner could well be there while not being a siting member of Congress?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:22:48pm

re: #27 jaunte

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:25:15pm

Driftglass hits another one out of the park driftglass.blogspot.com

Now that the Republican Party is dead and the Neo-Know-Nothings have taken over, it should come as no surprise that the Party’s intellectual elite — flatworms whose claim on power consists of being knee-walking drunk enough on cherry-picked scripture, Alex Jones and Randite poteen to appeal to the Great Wad of cow-dumb bigots who make up the Party base — cannot hold their shit together long enough to arrange their own funeral.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:25:42pm

No GOPer is going to risk losing their next gravy train, I mean election, by being sane and raising the debt limit (and other sundry governing things).

They are truly in a no-win situation. And god help us if Dem’s don’t pounce like nuts on this. These guys don’t belong in government collecting salaries and benefits that few of the rest of us have. It’s all fun and games to them. It’s not a country…it’s a political party and all else be damned.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:26:34pm

According to Roll Call’s summary of the mayhem, “Gowdy was seen stomping into an elevator and uttered an emphatic, ‘No!’ when asked if he would run for speaker.”
The South Carolina representative voiced his thoughts on how thankless he thought the House Speaker position was earlier this week.

“Whichever candidate I am maddest at when it’s time to vote will be the
one I vote for,” Gowdy told the New York Times. “Because it is a nearly impossible job.”

nytimes.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:27:15pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

or as powerful.

Yeah, on the one hand, it’s disarray, but on the other hand, it demonstrates the influence of the hard-liners.

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Franklin  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:27:40pm

My favorite is the Morgan Freemark

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:27:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:28:47pm

re: #54 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah, on the one hand, it’s disarray, but on the other hand, it demonstrates the influence of the hard-liners.

Well speaking as a center/lefty I’m glad the far left doesn’t have the sway in the Democrats that the far right does in the Republicans. At my core, I am someone who wants to get shit done and I am willing to compromise on some to get that done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:29:07pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:29:15pm

re: #28 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

These people seem to believe that (1) No one is really conservative enough for them, including most GOPers, and that (2) They will soon control Congress and the Presidency.

Someone’s gonna be disappointed.

(pats gun) Well, Ol’ Bessie here has ten thirty votes in her. A’int no reason I shouldn’t cast ‘em.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:29:33pm

re: #53 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Good grief, no one wants the job. lol

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:29:53pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’d convince the Ayatollah not to build nukes just by crying and he’d be like “Okay, okay if I promise not to make nukes, if you please stop crying and I’ll take you to McDonalds and Toys R Us.”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:30:34pm

re: #54 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah, on the one hand, it’s disarray, but on the other hand, it demonstrates the influence of the hard-liners.

Now the hardliners are wielding a strong influence, they’re revealing how impotent an aversion to compromise can be in a system designed to work on compromise.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:30:41pm

re: #60 Jenner7

Good grief, no one wants the job. lol

Gohmert!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:31:03pm

No one wants the job because no one wants to deal with the hardliners and the Calgary Kid.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:31:33pm

re: #62 jaunte

Now the hardliners are wielding a strong influence, they’re revealing how impotent an aversion to compromise can be in a system designed to work on compromise.

Parliamentary tactics do not work well in our system, unless you are trying to break the system past repair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:31:51pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:32:03pm

re: #34 WhatEVs

No, they oppose anything smacking of sanity. They oppose the GOP, too. They oppose America.

It’s why I call them revolutionaries rather than conservatives.

And considering that they agree with Marx on how a capitalist society works, that is everything is subsumed in the drive for profit, I believe we can call them Marxist revolutionaries.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:32:47pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The same leadership you want for yourself Ted. God I almost want Ted to get some power and then to have him actually have to deal with shit rather than being a whiny little brat all the time.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:33:37pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

So Boehner could well be there while not being a siting member of Congress?

I think I remember reading the Speaker doesn’t even have to be an elected official. Anyone can be Speaker (I’m sure there are some rules but I remember being surprised it didn’t have to be someone elected).

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:34:12pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

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I can’t even begin to express how happy I am that Berkeley Breathed is doing Bloom County again.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:34:14pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:34:16pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘Volcanic frustration with Washington’ took down GOP leadership

If by ‘volcanic frustration’ he means ‘abject stupidity and terminal pig-headedness,’ then yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:34:22pm

re: #69 leftynyc

I think I remember reading the Speaker doesn’t even have to be an elected official. Anyone can be Speaker (I’m sure there are some rules but I remember being surprised it didn’t have to be someone elected).

Oh I’m aware of that it’s allowed. What a mess in any case.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:34:35pm

re: #69 leftynyc

I think I remember reading the Speaker doesn’t even have to be an elected official. Anyone can be Speaker (I’m sure there are some rules but I remember being surprised it didn’t have to be someone elected).

Here comes a candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:35:08pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

Here comes a candidate.

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That goat believes in compromise. Sorry Jim Jordan rejects it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:35:49pm

re: #67 Romantic Heretic

It’s why I call them revolutionaries rather than conservatives.

And considering that they agree with Marx on how a capitalist society works, that is everything is subsumed in the drive for profit, I believe we can call them Marxist revolutionaries.

They are 1791 Jacobites looking for their Robespierre. And an awful lot of them are not kidding about the armed revolt bit.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:36:40pm

re: #24 jaunte

“Whaddaya mean we have to pay higher interest rates if we refuse to pay our debts?”

We’re going to run the country on the payday loan model.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:36:52pm

Agh so sleepy. Don’t think I can work out today.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:36:53pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

That is the cutest thing!!! Still watching that video of the kitty copying mommy. I sent it all over the place. You come up with the best stuff.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:36:54pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:37:33pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

Driftglass hits another one out of the park driftglass.blogspot.com

Oooo! One of UpChuck’s sycophants posted over there claiming the Ginger Furby discovered the affair that killed McCarthy.

Or maybe it’s one of UpChuck’s numerous sock puppets.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:37:49pm

re: #80 freetoken

Trump Claims Credit For Kevin McCarthy Dropping Out

Of course he does.

Can we get a battle between the Donald and the raging furby over this? I would pay to see that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:38:50pm

re: #82 leftynyc

Can we get a battle between the Donald and the raging furby over this? I would pay to see that.

Oh God me too.Chuck’s not going to like Donald taking credit for something that is rightfully his. // Not sure if the Rage Furby is still backing Cruz or switched to his long lost father though.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:38:50pm

re: #65 Aunty Entity Dragon

Parliamentary tactics do not work well in our system, unless you are trying to break the system past repair.

As usual, the responsibility for dealing with the Teabagger loons rests in the hands of ‘moderate’ GOPers who will never, ever, do the right thing.

Any Republican House member that is truly concerned about this Teabagger idiocy can band together with like-minded types and cut a deal with Pelosi —- she gets to be speaker, and her GOP allies get some committee chairs etc.

Since no such action is apparent, one can conclude that no GOPer in Congress is actually bothered enough by Teabagger idiocy to meaningfully oppose it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:39:28pm

re: #80 freetoken

Trump Claims Credit For Kevin McCarthy Dropping Out

Of course he does.

Trump claims credit for the Chicxulub bolide impact event…

It was yooooogggggeeee!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:39:58pm

re: #80 freetoken

Trump Claims Credit For Kevin McCarthy Dropping Out

Of course he does.

Everyone seems to want credit for that.

Boy, imagine how much it would suck to be him - spend years working your way up through the ranks, and on the verge of your greatest achievement, shooting yourself in the ass and then having to listen to a chorus of YOUR OWN PARTY MEMBERS fighting over the credit for bringing you down.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:40:50pm

I must admit, I’m enjoying the infighting. I also enjoy the fact that Eric Cantor must be thinking that he would be speaker if he was still in the house.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:41:24pm

re: #69 leftynyc

I think I remember reading the Speaker doesn’t even have to be an elected official. Anyone can be Speaker (I’m sure there are some rules but I remember being surprised it didn’t have to be someone elected).

That’s my understanding, too.

Speaker Cruz anyone?

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:41:56pm

Well, I’ve really enjoyed being here for such a fun afternoon of politics but the commute home awaits. Have fun and stay safe, everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:42:01pm

re: #87 Stuff Happens

I must admit, I’m enjoying the infighting. I also enjoy the fact that Eric Cantor must be thinking that he would be speaker if he was still in the house.

Oh that to me is the best part. I could not stand Cantor. Boehner annoys me but Cantor was a weasel.

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EPR-radar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:42:18pm

re: #88 WhatEVs

That’s my understanding, too.

Speaker Cruz anyone?

The obvious choice along these line would be Speaker Rush Limbaugh, Spiritual Leader of the Teabagger Nation.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:42:25pm

re: #88 WhatEVs

That’s my understanding, too.

Speaker Cruz anyone?

On that note, I’m heading for a nap.

That is, if I can sleep, ever again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:42:47pm

re: #88 WhatEVs

That’s my understanding, too.

Speaker Cruz anyone?

I’d love to see Cruz put in an actual position where he had to do something other than just bitch and bitch that it’s not in the Constitution and the Ronald Reagan wouldn’t have done that.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:43:22pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:43:28pm

re: #87 Stuff Happens

I must admit, I’m enjoying the infighting. I also enjoy the fact that Eric Cantor must be thinking that he would be speaker if he was still in the house.

I wonder how he took the revelation that Boehner was looking to resign the speakership, but kept at it when he heard that Cantor lost his reelection bid?

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:44:54pm

Meanwhile, at the “Freedom Caucus”:

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:45:12pm

re: #81 Romantic Heretic

Oooo! One of UpChuck’s sycophants posted over there claiming the Ginger Furby discovered the affair that killed McCarthy.

Or maybe it’s one of UpChuck’s numerous sock puppets.

Not no longer. Only four comments over there. None about Chucky.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:46:16pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

The obvious choice along these line would be Speaker Rush Limbaugh, Spiritual Leader of the Teabagger Nation.

Gah!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:46:46pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

I wonder how he took the revelation that Boehner was looking to resign the speakership, but kept at it when he heard that Cantor lost his reelection bid?

I imagine Boehner will have a book out. That’s something I’d actually read since I can tell that Boehner does not like these guys at all. Perhaps even less than we do since unlike him, he actually has to deal with them face to face.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:47:16pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, at the “Freedom Caucus”:

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Even better than the circular firing squad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:47:17pm

O_o

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:48:10pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Fuck it, man. Maybe we don’t deserve to be a superpower. We need some chlorine in our gene pool.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:48:21pm

re: #8 Belafon

This is the logical outcome of the Hastert Rule. Whenever you need most of your party to get something done, it allows the minority to be in control.

Speaking of Hastert…everyone remember how he became Speaker of the House?

Crazy times and the takedown of a sitting speaker and his replacement then too.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:48:24pm

Republican Re-messaging in action:

GOP Candidate John Kasich to Woman With Question at Political Event: “I Don’t Have Any Tickets for Taylor Swift”

GOP presidential hopeful and Ohio Governor John Kasich was speaking to hundreds of students and community members at a University of Richmond event earlier this week when 18-year-old Kayla Solsbak raised her hand to ask a question. Kasich responded to Solsbak by saying, “I’m sorry, I don’t have any tickets for Taylor Swift or, you know, Linkin Park.”

[…]

There’s a lot to parse here, and it’s difficult to a clear picture of what happened without seeing a video of the audience. Although Solsbak and McAuley [Kasich defender] seem to disagree about what transpired between her and Kasich, whether or not she was inappropriately loud or disrupted the event is ultimately irrelevant-what this comes down to is the reflexive ways in which men use femininity as an insult.

I’m having a hard time thinking of a male equivalent for Kasich’s quip, and that’s likely because the pop culture typically associated with young men isn’t as marginalized and mocked as the media created by or beloved of young women. Kasich could have simply told Solsbak he needed to move on, but I suspect he subconsciously realized that he’d discredit her far more if he mentioned her in the same sentence as a female fandom.

When young men are vocally enthusiastic, they’re politically informed. When women demonstrate similar levels of investment, it’s apparently because we have, literally, forgotten our place; we cannot tell the difference between a concert and a sexist, shitty political event.

[…]

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:48:32pm

When asked for comment about McCarthy’s announcement, Speaker Boehner had this to say:

Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:49:43pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Satanic panic is so 1980s.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:50:34pm

I don’t know where this photo is from or what it’s of, but I like it. Woman, reading, not in uniform but equal to those who are.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:51:38pm
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:51:40pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I’d love to see Cruz put in an actual position where he had to do something other than just bitch and bitch that it’s not in the Constitution and the Ronald Reagan wouldn’t have done that.

Me too, but I think he’s too slippery to be caught in that position.

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:53:14pm

re: #109 jaunte

Me too, but I think he’s too slippery to be caught in that position.

He doesn’t WANT to be in that position. Havana Ted is all about endless bitching and moaning and throwing bombs, not governance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:53:28pm

re: #109 jaunte

Hey, he might as well be Speaker of the House. He’s already burned all his bridges in the Senate, while still standing on them.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:53:44pm

GOP to Boehner: “Hold until relieved. We’ll name a highschool for you.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:53:55pm

re: #110 Lidane

He doesn’t WANT to be in that position. Havana Ted is all about endless bitching and moaning and throwing bombs, not governance.

Which makes him the perfect leader for the Freedom Caucus.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:54:48pm

re: #110 Lidane

He doesn’t WANT to be in that position. Havana Ted Republicans are is all about endless bitching and moaning and throwing bombs, not governance.

Fixed. It’s easy to bitch, but hard to govern

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:57:05pm

re: #114 Stuff Happens

Fixed. It’s easy to bitch, but hard to govern

“The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work and then they get elected and prove it.” - P.J. O’Rourke

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:57:23pm

re: #97 WhatEVs

Not no longer. Only four comments over there. None about Chucky.

I lied. That comment IS there. My bad.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:57:43pm

If these were democrats the Koch’s would have commercials coast to coast taking political advantage.
*crickets

Maybe we should just compromise again./

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:59:36pm

re: #22 Big Beautiful Door

Will Ryan take enough stupid pills to accept this thankless job? Stay tuned!

Just thinking…should Ryan keep refusing, I think it shows what a fake he really is.

The dude wanted a lot of power back in 2010, 11 and 12. He wanted to do what is right for this country…blah, blah, blahdee, blah, blah.

Now he gets a chance to maybe have that power and he is running away from it.

I’d use this against him in Wisconsin and I would be using it in the national elections.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:59:38pm

Paul Ryan’s spokesman says “he’s a hard no.”

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:00:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:01:11pm
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:03:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:07:28pm
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:11:26pm

Rock bottom was settling on you, McCarthy. Now they have to sink lower.

GOHMERT!

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:16:50pm

Would Golmert! be bottom?

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:19:04pm
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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:19:32pm

re: #125 Amory Blaine

Would Golmert! be bottom?

I’m sure they could do worse. Just give me a minute, I’ll think of it///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:20:34pm

re: #127 thedopefishlives

I’m sure they could do worse. Just give me a minute, I’ll think of it///

If she was still there, Bachman maybe? I think of Bachmann and Gohmert being identical though for similar reasons with their extreme homophobia and bigoty.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:21:03pm

I decided to watch Chuck Todd. Uggh.

Anyway, he had Joke Scarborough on and Joke says the party needs Paul Ryan and Paul Ryan is the guy for the job. He seems to think Ryan is a Republican’s Republican and is in the mode of Jack Kemp.

Yeah sure.

Also, Chuck was talking about anyone can be the speaker. He said he has already heard people mention Dick Cheney and Ben Carson.

I’ll stop there.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:22:11pm

Lizard, good night. I’m getting “mushroomed” * by my family considering my Mother health.

* Mushroomed: Noun: Kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

I am not a happy camper.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:22:58pm

re: #127 thedopefishlives

I’m sure they could do worse. Just give me a minute, I’ll think of it///

Blake Farenthold


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thedopefishlives  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:23:07pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

If she was still there, Bachman maybe? I think of Bachmann and Gohmert being identical though for similar reasons with their extreme homophobia and bigoty.

I was actually going to say Bachmann, but I doubt they’d ever vote for a woman for a position of power even if she were the most qualified person in the room (and if she were there, Bachmann would definitely NOT be it).

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:24:19pm

re: #104 freetoken

Republican Re-messaging in action:

GOP Candidate John Kasich to Woman With Question at Political Event: “I Don’t Have Any Tickets for Taylor Swift”

That right there is the “dick” coming out of Kasich that BeachDem and I have been talking about.

I bet you he doesn’t even know why this is a big deal. He probably thought he was being funny/cool.

He is neither.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:24:55pm
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:25:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:26:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:26:07pm

re: #131 darthstar

Blake Farenthold

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I thought Flounder became a motivation Speaker and Bluto was the one who ended pu in Congress.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:28:13pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

I decided to watch Chuck Todd. Uggh.

Also, Chuck was talking about anyone can be the speaker. He said he has already heard people mention Dick Cheney and Ben Carson.

I’ll stop there.

OMFG. I mean…OMFG. I just can’t even. Ben Carson…who knows nothing about anything other than his MD specialty. No clue what the debt ceiling is. No clue about virtually anything.

Seriously…THAT would be rock bottom.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:29:02pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:29:18pm
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:29:32pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:29:57pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I found out last week that my lineman buddy whose son moved to PA several years ago has found out that son is in an apprenticeship program to become a lineman!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:30:33pm
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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:32:52pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

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I HAVE A FEVER AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION IS ALLEN WEST!1!!

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:33:41pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

In a batshit crazy Congress, only one man is bugfuck nuts enough to do what needs to be done. GOHMERT FOR SPEAKER!

5:25 PM - 8 Oct 2015

Posted earlier…but what the hey…let’s have fun with it all.

Gohmert House Speakers - Model 2015 System…updated for 2016. Do you like the sound?
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[deleted]  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:35:12pm
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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:36:38pm

#146 o/` Spam Spam Spam Spam o/`

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:39:45pm

Current Fox News chryon:

NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT

How is this news? Did these bobbleheads expect a national teacher’s union to endorse the party that wants to dismantle them and destroy their jobs?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:41:29pm

heh

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:41:36pm

re: #148 Lidane

Current Fox News chryon:

NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT

How is this news? Did these bobbleheads expect a national teacher’s union to endorse the party that wants to dismantle them and destroy their jobs?

Supporters of The Bern won’t be happy.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:41:40pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:41:41pm
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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:43:01pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:43:08pm

MUTINEEEE!!!11!!!!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:43:57pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Ugh, gotnews is the third result when you Google her name.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:45:46pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

APE’S ARE NOT TURNING INTO HUMANS

indeed as far as i can make out it’s the other way around

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:46:27pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:47:15pm

Reading now! Wheeeee

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:49:52pm

re: #148 Lidane

Current Fox News chryon:

NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT

How is this news? Did these bobbleheads expect a national teacher’s union to endorse the party that wants to dismantle them and destroy their jobs?

That will drive those Republican dogs back into their lairs all right.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:50:23pm

re: #157 Kragar

JUST IN: Newt Gingrich open to another term as Speaker

and it’s joe cannon vs champ clark in the final rounds

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:51:24pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why are people like him allowed to wander around in public?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:51:46pm

And of course, always, inevitably, the grift.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:52:48pm

Oops, wrong paste!

AND NOW THE GRIFT

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:53:33pm

As many of you are aware, one of my soapboxes is about the atrociousness of science reporting in the general media.

Today’s story about the extraction of nuclear DNA from an ancient resident of what is now Ethiopia is proving to be yet another example of how the ideas and discoveries are just too much for many reporters.

One of the better reviews is over at ScienceMag:

First DNA extracted from an ancient African skeleton shows widespread mixing with Eurasians

I could nit pick that one but at least the author tries to explain what was discovered in an accurate way.

I started to read the AP story:

STUDY: EURASIAN FARMERS MIGRATED TO AFRICA 3,000 YEARS AGO

Scientists say they have extracted ancient DNA from the skull of a man buried in the highlands of Ethiopia 4,500 years ago that supports the theory that Eurasian farmers migrated into Africa some 3,000 years ago.

This Stone Age resettlement had previously been theorized, but the rare find allowed scientists to see what DNA looked like well before the time the migration would have taken place. A comparison with modern populations around the world allowed them to see that the migrants left their genetic mark in the furthest corners of Africa.

[…]

And then I stopped because of the bolded part. The discovery was of likely farming communities moving down in east Africa from the Near East. In the two periods discussed - 4500 years ago for the skeleton and 3000 years ago for the major migration - the people who migrated in came from cultures that were using bronze. It’s the old bronze age, before the classical era.

We humans and our ancestors have used stones for millions of years. Whenever a writer uses “Stone Age” in caps I’ve got to wonder about what they are really discussing.

One problem is that different cultures around the world transitioned to metals at different times. However, as noted by some write-ups, farming was already being done in Africa by the time these Mediterranean/Near East immigrants came into eastern Africa, so in no sense is simply using the term “Stone Age” a useful one for describing the era.

The inability to accurately describe a subject is one of the weaknesses of so much “reporting”.

Now in this case the AP writer perhaps believed that his readers are clueless about what even “3000” and “4500” years ago means - and he’d probably be correct in that assumption since half his readers will believe the world was created around that time.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:53:49pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, he might as well be Speaker of the House. He’s already burned all his bridges in the Senate, while still standing on them.

Which is stupid. You should burn bridges when your enemy is standing on them.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:55:00pm

Newt is open to being Speaker again? Really? He might want to finally pay off his campaign debts with vendors who still haven’t fully been compensated. $4.6 million in fact.

That’s not exactly chump change, and Newt’s not exactly rushing to pay the bills either. Yeah, that’s some grade A fiscal responsibility right there. Stiff businesses in pursuit of political ambition.

Then there’s his family values, which includes marital infidelity.

On second thought, he’s perfect for GOP speaker. That amount of grift and moral flexibility encapsulates what the GOP is about.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:55:12pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Oops, wrong paste!

AND NOW THE GRIFT

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Provide an example of conceited

1) A mosquito with an erection floating down a river yelling “OPEN THE DRAWBRIDGE!”

2) Chuck Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:56:44pm
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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:57:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:57:33pm

re: #166 lawhawk

not to mention that he was forced to resign as Speaker last time due to an ethics violation

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Archangelus  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:57:49pm

Seems that a GOPer’s reaction to a leadership proposal looks something like this..

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 2:59:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:00:03pm

Newt? Lol. What a mess.

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Brian J.  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:00:13pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

That and arranging for the Republicans to lose seats in the 1998 midterms. It should be noted that this was the first time since 1822 that the President’s party had gained House seats in that President’s second midterm election. The result was that like any current Republican, he no longer had 218 votes to make him Speaker.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:01:26pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea Toujours

Reading now! Wheeeee

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Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:01:53pm

Looks like the Mighty Putin has struck…

…the wrong targets.

Oops.

Washington Post - Pentagon: Some Russian cruise missiles crashed in Iran

Several cruise missiles fired from Russian ships at targets in Syria Wednesday crashed in Iran, according to Pentagon officials.

Twenty-six cruise missiles, launched from the Caspian Sea, traveled more than 900 miles over Iran and Iraq before hitting targets throughout Syria, according to a statement by the Russian Defense Ministry.

However, according to a senior U.S. defense official who requested anonymity to discuss intelligence matters Thursday, a few of the missiles did not make it to their intended targets.

Reports on Iranian TV indicated that an “unidentified flying object” had crashed and exploded in a village near near the Iranian city of Takab. A number of cows were killed in the ensuing blast.

While it is unclear what made the missiles crash, videos posted on social media showed them flying overhead at low altitude. While it is common for cruise missiles to fly low (to avoid radar detection), it can make traversing mountainous terrain perilous.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:02:29pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Looks like the Mighty Putin has struck…

…the wrong targets.

Oops.

Washington Post - Pentagon: Some Russian cruise missiles crashed in Iran

Tough manly man Vlad!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:03:26pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Looks like the Mighty Putin has struck…

…the wrong targets.

Oops.

Washington Post - Pentagon: Some Russian cruise missiles crashed in Iran

Says something about Iraq’s and Iran’s air defense systems.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:05:36pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

Craigslist

i would add these requirements for the next speaker:

- must promise to not shut down government
- must promise to shut down government

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:08:46pm
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Brian J.  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:08:54pm

re: #179 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Congratulations to our new Speaker of the House, Dr. Erwin Schrödinger.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:10:17pm

Looks like the establishment wants Ryan.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:10:20pm

The other big screaming headline today:

There’s Now A Genetic Test For Homosexuality (Sort Of)

Well, emphasis on “sort of”.

It stems from this presentation at the ASHG meeting this week:

A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.

Plenty of disclaimers though:

Experts caution on study citing method to predict sexual orientation

U.S. researchers on Thursday said they had found a way to predict male sexual orientation based on molecular markers that control DNA function, but genetics experts warned that the research has important limitations and will not provide definitive answers to a potential biological basis for sexual preference.

[…]

Genetics experts who critiqued the findings said it was premature to draw any conclusions on the predictive powers of epigenetic markers.

“The question as to whether that prediction is going to be useful outside of the small number of twins in the study is really unclear,” said Dr. Christopher Gregg, a genetics professor at the University of Utah.

Others noted the small size of the population studied and stressed that such findings often fall apart when applied to larger groups of people.

“One thing you can clearly see is that the sample size is too small. They don’t have enough power to make that claim,” said Dr. Peng Jin, professor of human genetics from Emory University in Atlanta, who attended the meeting in Baltimore.

[…]

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iossarian  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:11:29pm

re: #157 Kragar

DO IT NEWT FUCKING DO IT FOR AMERICA

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:11:50pm

Frank VanderSloot loses his “defamation” suit against Mother Jones for reporting his political activities:

”..make no mistake: This was not a dispute over a few words. It was a push, by a superrich businessman and donor, to wipe out news coverage that he disapproved of. Had he been successful, it would have been a chilling indicator that the 0.01 percent can control not only the financing of political campaigns, but also media coverage of those campaigns.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:11:54pm

Donald is really mad at Erick:

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iossarian  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:12:22pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Looks like the establishment wants Ryan.

- square-jawed
- wants to cut services to poor people
- Very Serious people afraid to call out his total lack of credibility

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:12:43pm

I was just listening to MSNBC and Luke was saying that whoever is the speaker, they will face the same 50 members who don’t want to compromise with Obama.

I wanted to yell at the TV: NO FUCKING SHIT. WE’VE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS FOR 7 YEARS NOW. THEY DON’T WANT TO GOVERN.

But we’ll still here from Chuck Todd or Ron Fournier or some idiot on CNN about how Obama doesn’t want to work with Republicans.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:14:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:15:30pm

good grief, Jeb.
Just go home already…

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:16:01pm

Vandersloot of course is a poor loser:

Postscript: In her decision Tuesday, the district court judge found in our favor on every single claim VanderSloot had made. She also included a passage expressing her own opinion of Mother Jones, and of political news coverage in general. For his part, Vandersloot issued a statement saying he had been “absolutely vindicated” and announced that he was setting up a $1 million fund to pay the legal expenses of people wanting to sue Mother Jones or other members of the “liberal press.”
motherjones.com

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:16:06pm

re: #189 Amory Blaine

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Who on Cantor’s staff approved that picture?

Geez, does he ever not look like a douchenozzle?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:16:13pm

re: #189 Amory Blaine

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two down, one to go

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:16:15pm

re: #187 iossarian

- square-jawed
- wants to cut services to poor people
- Very Serious people afraid to call out his total lack of credibility

Perfect eh.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:17:00pm

Chuck’s self-destructive urges are apparently taking over: BREAKING: GotNews.com IDs First Department of Justice Employee on #AshleyMadison - GotNews

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:17:01pm

The charter of an Indiana University fraternity has been revoked after a video surfaced showing members cheering on a brother involved in a sexually explicit act with a woman.

is that a brother as in ‘a brother’ or just a brother?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:17:21pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief, Jeb.
Just go home already…

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Says the ultimate Washington kid. God Jeb just shut up and stop embarrassing your parents.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:18:10pm

re: #196 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The charter of an Indiana University fraternity has been revoked after a video surfaced showing members cheering on a brother involved in a sexually explicit act with a woman.

is that a brother as in ‘a brother’ or just a brother?

As in a fraternity brother, one of their guys.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:18:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:18:54pm

re: #192 Timothy Watson

Who on Cantor’s staff approved that picture?

Geez, does he ever not look like a douchenozzle?

All three do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:19:20pm

gonna be raining here.
:(

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:19:44pm

On Sunday all the roundtables will champion Ryan as a moderate that can reach across the aisle.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:20:26pm

The other 200 and something Republicans in the House are very quiet about letting the Freedom Caucus determine who will be third in line for the presidency. Being unsure of whom they want to tell them what to do is so confusing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:21:12pm

re: #202 Amory Blaine

On Sunday all the roundtables will champion Ryan as a moderate that can reach across the aisle.

Yes the Ayn Rand fanboy will be touted as a reasonable bipartisan type.

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KGxvi  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:21:35pm

If you’re Paul Ryan, and you’ve already lost a national election as the Vice Presidential candidate, and you’ve seen the Speaker of the House you’ve worked with for six year suddenly announce his resignation (not just from the Speakership but from the House), and now the Majority Leader (aka The Next In Line) suddenly announces he doesn’t want the job… Why in the name of everything holy and blasphemous would you even ponder the possibility of thinking about possibly taking the job?

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iossarian  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:21:59pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

“The Republican Party thinks that dinosaur fossils are an elaborate hoax to trick us into worshipping Satan… what now?”

“GOP leaders don’t understand the difference between revenue and profit, and the implications for budgeting… what now?”

“America is increasingly beholden to a rump minority of people who believe that gay people cause floods… what now?”

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:23:21pm
House GOP awaits a REAL conservative
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KGxvi  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:23:33pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

I always have mixed feelings about announcements of celestial events. We’ve so much light pollution in the greater LA area, I don’t feel like we have much of a chance to see anything, ever.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:24:21pm

White supremacist Andrew “weev” Auernheimer tweeted this earlier today - openly threatening DOJ prosecutors. Now Chuck is proudly announcing his association with weev as well. This is not going to end well for Chuck. Auernheimer is currently in Romania. Chuck might want to join him there.

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Brian J.  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:24:31pm

re: #205 KGxvi

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see him behind a podium tomorrow, with all the Republican “establishment” toadies behind him, and then he says this:

Trash of the Titans

and goes home to Wisconsin. Resignation optional.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:25:44pm

Couldn’t happen to a nicer party.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:27:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:28:16pm
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:29:15pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:29:16pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Draconid

i for one welcome our new…

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:31:29pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief, Jeb.
Just go home already…

daveweigel ✔ @daveweigel

Jeb! on @hughhewitt: “There was a debate about Redskins being a pejorative term. I think Washington is the pejorative term.”

6:07 PM - 8 Oct 2015

Hee hee…yuk yuk.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:31:43pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

White supremacist Andrew “weev” Auernheimer tweeted this earlier today - openly threatening DOJ prosecutors. Now Chuck is proudly announcing his association with weev as well. This is not going to end well for Chuck. Auernheimer is currently in Romania. Chuck might want to join him there.

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“treasonous federal slime”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:31:52pm

re: #205 KGxvi

Why in the name of everything holy and blasphemous would you even ponder the possibility of thinking about possibly taking the job?

Ryan seems at least bright enough to understand that he’s a phony and that being Speaker would be the end of his political career. The media was giving him tongue baths for being “serious about deficit reduction” and describing him as the Republicans’ “tax and budget wonk,” until it was found that no one could make his numbers add up. He at least seems to have learned from that. Successful con men know when to stop.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:32:21pm
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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:34:18pm

I’m still trying to find out if we have enough popcorn in storage.

I’ve yet to find current yield estimates and total production, but last year was a bumper year in a major popcorn state:
Indiana farmers produce record popcorn crop

So maybe we’ll be ok.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:35:08pm

re: #220 freetoken

I’m still trying to find out if we have enough popcorn in storage.

I’ve yet to find current yield estimates and total production, but last year was a bumper year in a major popcorn state:
Indiana farmers produce record popcorn crop

So maybe we’ll be ok.

I could really use some popcorn.

Damn diet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:36:27pm

re: #219 Kragar

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Yeah that’s their problem right there. Their entire ideology is based in loathing the government.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:37:05pm

NBC News is softening the fact that Ryan himself dismissed the candidacy on their Nightly News program, ending the segment by declaring his aide’s claiming that. Yep he’ll be a moderate by Sunday.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:37:31pm

re: #221 Timothy Watson

I’d suggest air popped popcorn if I hadn’t already tried that in my dieting. Air popped popcorn isn’t.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:38:15pm

re: #218 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ryan seems at least bright enough to understand that he’s a phony and that being Speaker would be the end of his political career. The media was giving him tongue baths for being “serious about deficit reduction” and describing him as the Republicans’ “tax and budget wonk,” until it was found that no one could make his numbers add up. He at least seems to have learned from that. Successful con men know when to stop.

He was never right again after Joe Biden debated him in 2012.

Kicked the arrogant ass right out of him.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:39:21pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

He was never right again after Joe Biden debated him in 2012.

Kicked the arrogant ass right out of him.

I love the GIF I have of Biden laughing at Ryan during the debate. :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:40:04pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

He was never right again after Joe Biden debated him in 2012.

Kicked the arrogant ass right out of him.

Yeah he’s been pretty quiet ever since. I’ll be shocked if Ryan is the new Speaker.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:42:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:44:14pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

He was never right again after Joe Biden debated him in 2012.

Kicked the arrogant ass right out of him.

I sincerely doubt he’d ever been called out on his shit. The Beltway Media treated him as the GOP’s Policy Wonk. What he really is is a Policy Wank.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:44:22pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

He was never right again after Joe Biden debated him in 2012.

Kicked the arrogant ass right out of him.

Good point, which I’d forgotten. Still, Ryan learned not to stick his head up too far. He’s a useful apparatchik and he’ll stay one.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:44:50pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

I sincerely doubt he’d ever been called out on his shit. The Beltway Media treated him as the GOP’s Policy Wonk. What he really is is a Policy Wank.

Seriously guy is a capital F Fraud.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:45:56pm

Driving home tonight is going to interesting, I have my prescription sunglasses but not my regular prescription glasses.

I wear sunglasses at night…because my dumbass forgot my regular ones.

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D_Red  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:48:15pm

How can you claim with a straight face that you should run America when you can’t even govern the House of Representatives?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:48:43pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Seriously guy is a capital F Fraud.

Ryan is another opportunist who found that being a GOP grifter takes even less study than being a religious one.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:50:37pm

Once they’re born, Arizona doesn’t care as much:

A letter sent to donors’ next of kin by the Arizona attorney general also says Stephen Gore, the owner of Biological Resource Center of Arizona, did not always have permission from those who donated their tissue to have it used as some vendors used it. The center was the only body-donor facility involved in the criminal investigation, according to a letter sent to the family members of those whose loved ones’ remains were held as part of the investigation.

[…]

Biological Resource Center is one of about 10 such facilities in the state.

Body donation is a burgeoning industry, which make its money by soliciting donated tissues and organs and then selling them to drug firms, medical-device manufacturers, universities and hospitals. The donors of the bodies save the cost of burying or cremating their loved ones and can have the satisfaction of serving a greater good.

[…]

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:52:36pm

re: #232 Timothy Watson

Driving home tonight is going to interesting, I have my prescription sunglasses but not my regular prescription glasses.

I wear sunglasses at night…because my dumbass forgot my regular ones.

you will be arrested for being too cool for your car

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:54:44pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:54:50pm

re: #232 Timothy Watson

Driving home tonight is going to interesting, I have my prescription sunglasses but not my regular prescription glasses.

I wear sunglasses at night…because my dumbass forgot my regular ones.

Corey Hart, who sang “Sunglasses at Night,” recounted meeting Frank Sinatra in an elevator when both were playing Vegas. He said that he was thrilled when Sinatra asked him, “Aren’t you that Sunglasses at Night guy?”

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Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:55:12pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

Are the “hypocrites” indicting people for adultery?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:56:20pm

re: #237 darthstar

Well, fuck me if Bob Dornan isn’t fresh, rested and ready.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:56:52pm

This is why…He just barreled through a Steve King presser.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:57:17pm
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Brian J.  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:58:00pm

re: #237 darthstar

Young won only 51% of the vote in his last re-election campaign. I hope he goes for it; revenge for Tom Foley would be nice.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 3:59:27pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:01:14pm

re: #241 darthstar

This is why…He just barreled through a Steve King presser.

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Don Young is fucking SENILE. Amazing.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:08:41pm
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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:09:40pm

In a college classes, someone just sat down next to me with a huge “Breitbart” sticker on his laptop.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:12:24pm

re: #247 Timothy Watson

In a college classes, someone just sat down next to me with a huge “Breitbart” sticker on his laptop.

Don’t copy from his tests.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:13:18pm

Stop sitting in the back!

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BillinGlendaleCA  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:14:35pm

re: #240 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ah, just what the country needs, B-1 Bob.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:15:18pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

Don’t copy from his tests.

I regret that I have but one upding, etc. That comment made me snork out loud.

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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:15:47pm

So, when is the vote for Speaker supposed to happen? Is John the Orange still playing with the schedule?

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:15:49pm
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:16:43pm
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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:17:16pm

Windows 10 is telling me to “sit back and relax” while it installs.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:18:01pm

DNC ad next year: you want to vote for a Republican to run the country? Uh. They can’t even run the House.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:18:45pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

I regret that I have but one upding, etc. That comment made me snork out loud.

Same here, I barely managed to suppress a snort that would have probably started a coughing fit. :)

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:18:49pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

Windows 10 is telling me to “sit back and relax” while it installs.

That’s the message it displays when there’s an asteroid headed your way too. Just sayin’.

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Brian J.  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:19:29pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

And think of Redmond.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:19:48pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

If it works, it seemed pretty cool. It didn’t play well with Adobe CC so I went back to 7. It was a long frustrating couple of days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:20:22pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

Windows 10 is telling me to “sit back and relax” while it installs.

On The Blacklist last season, there’s a scene where hypercautious guy pulls a brand new laptop out of its box, turns it on, does a quick search, then destroys the drive with a bigass magnet.

Clearly, it’s not a Windows machine - “Installing 3 of 459 updates. Do not turn off or unplug your computer”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:21:12pm

re: #254 darthstar

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Jesus fuck, don’t give them any ideas!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:22:22pm

reasons daniel webster should be elected next speaker of the house:

- voted against tariff of 1816
- opposed nullification
- spoke against extension of the suffrage to non property owners
- against andrew jackson’s “bank war”
- worked for strong enforcement of fugitive slave law

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:23:00pm

re: #263 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

reasons daniel webster should be elected next speaker of the house:

- voted against tariff of 1816
- opposed nullification
- spoke against extension of the suffrage to non property owners
- against andrew jackson’s “bank war”
- worked for strong enforcement of fugitive slave law

- successfully debated the Devil Himself.

265
Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:23:28pm

Yeah this is my 2nd machine at home updating, seems fine. Still holding out with 7 for my main pc though, for street cred.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:24:14pm

re: #265 Amory Blaine

Yeah this is my 2nd machine at home updating, seems fine. Still holding out with 7 for my main pc though, for street cred.

What, no Vista?

/ducks

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:25:39pm

actually, i never quite realized before just what an asshole daniel webster was

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:26:26pm
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blueraven  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:27:13pm

Some crazy black woman just now on CNN, (Debra Dickerson, I think is her name) claims Obama is not black because he didn’t descend from slaves.

They were discussing Rupert Murdoch’s tweet.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:29:03pm

Florida ex-principal admits he hypnotized 75

One young man woke up in the hotel wearing pantyhose and clutching money that wasn’t his. Another looked in the mirror and saw his face smeared with red lipstick, clueless as to how it got there. One student got lost in the hotel for an hour, suddenly only able to read Braille and seeing written words and numbers as gibberish.
Those are some accounts from students who witnessed hypnosis or were hypnotized by former North Port High School Principal George Kenney from 2006 until 2011. In 2011, the last year Kenney performed hypnosis on students, parents, faculty and family members at the school, three students died after reportedly undergoing hypnosis by Kenney.
Two committed suicide. Another allegedly self-hypnotized while driving home after a painful dentist visit and died after he veered off the road.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:32:25pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:35:26pm

re: #271 Kragar

Ivan Roberson @Ivanroberson

Republicans Caught Red-Handed Hiding Unedited Planned Parenthood Videos From Democrats | occupydemocrats.com

5:34 PM - 8 Oct 2015

Dirty Dealing Snakes. Every last one of them.

Later…going to some friends for the evening. Keep on it!

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Amory Blaine  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:35:40pm

Watched this yesterday. KKK: The Fight for White Supremacy It had some interesting clips from the Protests in S.C., shows the simpletons in their natural environment and has some counter-demonstrations. It does a pretty accurate portrayal of who the KKK really are as a bunch of backwater fucktards, but starts to drag on as the narrator doesn’t seem to be able to get any real answers out of them. This backseat approach tires as we are fed a steady diet of stupidity.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:37:06pm

re: #269 blueraven

Some crazy black woman just now on CNN, (Debra Dickerson, I think is her name) claims Obama is not black because he didn’t descend from slaves.

They were discussing Rupert Murdoch’s tweet.

According to Wiki, she’s been saying that since 2007. I’m guessing she’ll quit saying it in 2016.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:44:44pm

In the hours before House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) abruptly withdrew his candidacy to be the next speaker of the House, he was sent an email from a conservative activist threatening to expose an alleged affair with a colleague. The subject line: “Kevin, why not resign like Bob Livingston?”

The email, sent just after 8 a.m. on Thursday, came from Steve Baer, a Chicago-based GOP donor known for mass-emailing conservative figures and Republican lawmakers.[…]

Not from Chucky.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:47:17pm
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freetoken  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:48:38pm

re: #275 wrenchwench

Ashley Madison?

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:52:18pm

re: #150 Timothy Watson

Supporters of The Bern won’t be aren’t happy.

Fully 1% of the teachers complained about it according to Daily Kos, therefore it goes against all teachers.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:52:43pm

re: #277 freetoken

Ashley Madison?

Have not seen that in connection with this. Haven’t been following it, either.

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Teukka  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:54:33pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

Windows 10 is telling me to “sit back and relax” while it installs.

FWIW, for everyone in my circle of acquaintances, the whole ordeal was over with in 2hrs. And yeah, lotsa waiting and twiddling of thumbs.

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Bear  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:55:27pm

re: #255 Amory Blaine

Good luck getting it installed. I can not get to install over 8.1 in one ‘puter.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 4:56:39pm

*shudder*

Flipping through Sirius and tuned to to the Pretenders’ “My City Was Gone”, didn’t realize until it started playing that was theme for Limbaugh’s show.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 5:00:47pm

re: #275 wrenchwench

Kevin McCarthy’s exit came after personal threat over affair allegations

i believe the part of renee ellmers is being played by renee zellwegger

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 8, 2015 • 5:04:29pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

Auernheimer has been traveling into countries which have no extradition treaties with the US. This troll also submitted a bill to the Feds for his loss of freedom that runs into the millions.

The Aurenheimer/CCJ link is very tenuous due to the fact that CCJ married his ‘Hot Asian Wife’, to which Aurenheimer labeled CCJ as a race traitor-yet he’s willing to work with him on the Ashley Madison leak. Geez, Andrew, don’t know you that the enemy of my enemy is still your enemy? Or are you just a big hypocritical douchebag?

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TedStriker  Oct 8, 2015 • 6:15:39pm

re: #270 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Florida ex-principal admits he hypnotized 75

One young man woke up in the hotel wearing pantyhose and clutching money that wasn’t his. Another looked in the mirror and saw his face smeared with red lipstick, clueless as to how it got there. One student got lost in the hotel for an hour, suddenly only able to read Braille and seeing written words and numbers as gibberish.
Those are some accounts from students who witnessed hypnosis or were hypnotized by former North Port High School Principal George Kenney from 2006 until 2011. In 2011, the last year Kenney performed hypnosis on students, parents, faculty and family members at the school, three students died after reportedly undergoing hypnosis by Kenney.
Two committed suicide. Another allegedly self-hypnotized while driving home after a painful dentist visit and died after he veered off the road.


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