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Black Skeleton d20  Oct 10, 2015 • 8:46:13pm

The guy reminds me of the lead singer/guitarist from 3 (yeah, the band’s just named ‘3’), Joey Eppard:

3 “Lexicon of Extremism” (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

Edit: sadly I can’t find a better non-live version, but a personal fave of theirs, ‘Alien Angel’:

Youtube Video

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:08:01pm
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:11:56pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I don’t think they understand: Opening a Chuck Johnson fan account gives you hairy palms.

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bratwurst  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:44:04pm

Take A Look At This Dirty, Brutal Slide From Chase Utley That Injured Ruben Tejada

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:44:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:48:33pm
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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:51:02pm

‘Cuckservative’ is such a pathetic little slur. Has a slimy little bondage inflection to it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:53:04pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Tyr is the Norse god of war. (Tuesday = Mar’s Day = martes in Spanish). He must be one of those neopagan/white supremacist dudes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 10, 2015 • 9:55:11pm

Saw the Blue Angels today, for at least a little bit. Doing loops with trailing smoke. We’ll see what I managed to get a photo of, but nothing that good.

That is about the only bright side of today’s trip to SF.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:04:09pm

re: #4 bratwurst

Chase Utley is one of those guys that I don’t like seeing on the team I root for. Which makes it annoying that he’s on the Dodgers, since they’re my team. And since he was out from you to me, there was no reason for him to slide like that, just flat out bad form.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:11:48pm

re: #7 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

It’s useful, though. It clearly demonstrates how ideas move from the “fringe” right of sexists/racists/fascists, and are being dropped into the politically potent right-wing base.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:39:06pm

Holy shit that’s some cool technique man. Thanks for sharing.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:42:59pm

My mom just posted a McCarthy story on Gotnews.

MA! THE MEATLOAF!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:48:44pm

re: #7 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

‘Cuckservative’ is such a pathetic little slur. Has a slimy little bondage inflection to it.

The great thing about it is it immediately identifies the user as a tiny-dicked shithead.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2015 • 10:52:52pm

Great moments in RWNJ Twitter idiocy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:07:18pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Great moments in RWNJ Twitter idiocy.

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What the…

I can’t believe…

The fuck…

HUH?!?!?!

Who…who thinks like this?

Good God the stupidity.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:08:33pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

What the…

I can’t believe…

The fuck…

HUH?!?!?!

Who…who thinks like this?

Good God the stupidity.

INORITE?!?!?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:10:03pm

Nuclear checkmate Atheists!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:14:49pm

I mean seriously, comparing the Hiroshima blast to the Big Bang is like comparing a hurricane and a black hole. They both suck things up into oblivion so their MUST be a connection!

My brain seriously almost physically hurts from that. Ugh.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:15:03pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Great moments in RWNJ Twitter idiocy.

That’s a really stupid remark. Even someone ignorant of the Big Bang theory could figure that there was nothing before the Big Bang to destroy, so the analogy with the A-bombs fails completely.

Also, the processes were very different, but that detail would be lost on someone with next to no knowledge of physics.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:15:54pm
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No Depression  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:17:31pm

lolwut:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:17:32pm

Also, as bad as Hiroshima was, the creation of the Universe was WAY more violent and disruptive. It’s not like we had the bang and then instantly everything came into perfect form. There was mass upheaval as the earliest planets and celestial bodies formed.

To quote a lyric from one of my favourite songs: Destruction leads to a very rough road but it also breeds creation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:19:41pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, as bad as Hiroshima was, the creation of the Universe was WAY more violent and disruptive. It’s not like we had the bang and then instantly everything came into perfect form. There was mass upheaval as the earliest planets and celestial bodies formed.

To quote a lyric from one of my favourite songs: Destruction leads to a very rough road but it also breeds creation.

Also, there was no universe before the BB. The BB created this universe. It’s not like there was something already there that the BB destroyed.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:23:21pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Ahh. He’s Florida man. Makes sense now.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 10, 2015 • 11:23:47pm

re: #22 No Depression

lolwut:

“First cause” is Aristotelian philosophy, ported over into Christian theology by St. Thomas Aquinas. Aristotle reasoned (without much evidence) that everything has a cause, and each cause has an earlier cause, all the way back to a prime cause.

Now, you could argue that the Big bang was the first cause, but the Rev. is looking in a different direction.

Me, I’d go with 3 billion years of evolution to result in that butterfly, but I’m one of those godless heathen scientists.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:02:50am

I’ve been reading up and listening to a lot of anti-LGF agitprop. One thing that was immediately noticeable was people declaring that LGF is anti-religion and anti-Christian in particular.

As a regular reader and commenter at LGF, I know that that’s total bullshit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:05:17am

re: #27 teleskiguy

I’ve been reading up and listening to a lot of anti-LGF agitprop. One thing that was immediately noticeable was people declaring that LGF is anti-religion and anti-Christian in particular.

As a regular reader and commenter at LGF, I know that that’s total bullshit.

They’ve never been to PZ Myers joint, I guess. We’re tame by comparison.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:10:38am

re: #24 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also, there was no universe before the BB. The BB created this universe. It’s not like there was something already there that the BB destroyed.

I think that the universe expands to a point of stasis then begins to contract again, black holes getting larger, until it compresses into another Big Bang and starts again.

Prove me wrong.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:11:44am

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’ve never been to PZ Myers joint, I guess. We’re tame by comparison.

We’ve always had religious people post here. It got ugly during the Great LGF Creationist Purge around 2008 or so. Luckily, we attract smart folks - religious or otherwise - that can see the world in front of them for what it is.

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:12:07am

re: #27 teleskiguy

I’ve been reading up and listening to a lot of anti-LGF agitprop. One thing that was immediately noticeable was people declaring that LGF is anti-religion and anti-Christian in particular.

As a regular reader and commenter at LGF, I know that that’s total bullshit.

Ya’ll put up with my religious blather, can’t be too anti-christian a place. Just because anti-idiotarian also applies to individuals who happen to be religious as well… O_o

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:14:44am

For the record: I am an atheist.

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:18:31am

re: #32 teleskiguy

Really? Never noticed…

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:21:39am

re: #33 William Lewis

Really? Never noticed…

/////

I ain’t an evangelist! I respect folks’ beliefs, especially when they respect mine. Another reason why LGF is the shit!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:24:32am

re: #29 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I think that the universe expands to a point of stasis then begins to contract again, black holes getting larger, until it compresses into another Big Bang and starts again.

Prove me wrong.

Bing Bang, Big Crunch, lather, rinse, repeat is one hypothesis, as yet unverified by evidence. Let’s wait a few more billion years and see what happens.

If the cosmic redshift stops and turns into blueshift, then that’ll be bad — in a few billion years.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:28:31am

‘Superman’ Memory Crystal Would Last 1 Million Years

A Superman-inspired memory crystal can store data until the end of civilization.

This computer memory crystal can store digital information in five dimensions: the three dimensions of space and two extra dimensions of crystal lattice.

Developed in Britain, the crystal is made of fused quartz that comes from almost pure silica, a stable material. To store data, a high-speed laser light is used to etch information into the crystal’s surface, which can withstand temperatures up to 1832 degrees Fahrenheit.

Under normal conditions, the crystal is stable and would remain unchanged for at least a million years, Zhang told The Independent.

The crystal can hold up to 360 terabytes of data, which would typically take about half a million conventional CDs.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:33:12am

re: #36 Amory Blaine

‘Superman’ Memory Crystal Would Last 1 Million Years

It’ll be filled to capacity with cat pictures within a year.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:37:39am

re: #29 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I think that the universe expands to a point of stasis then begins to contract again, black holes getting larger, until it compresses into another Big Bang and starts again.

Prove me wrong.

That was certainly regarded as an arguable hypothesis before the accelerating expansion of the universe was discovered, even though we couldn’t find more than about .5% of the mass needed to close the universe—now, not so much. The Big Rip is more likely, and could happen any time.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:43:02am
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SteelPH  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:46:05am

re: #39 teleskiguy

That’s not a cat!

//

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:48:29am

re: #40 SteelPH

That’s not a cat!

//

I know. It’s cuter.

/

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:56:28am

re: #27 teleskiguy

There’s a difference between being anti-some ideology and being against people who subscribe to it. I don’t see religion as a positive phenomenon - which doesn’t mean I think worse of the religious people. A religious liberal is certainly closer to me than someone who doesn’t like religion and is a total wingnut asshole otherwise.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 12:58:48am

One other thing: atheistic and anti-religion are not synonymous.
Atheism refers to a philosophical stance on the existence of God. An atheist can adore religion otherwise - see S.E.Cupp (but not only).

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:03:41am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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I really think someone could write a book about sexual frustration being the basis of modern (American) conservationism.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:10:14am

re: #43 Nyet

I suppose I’m in between the atheistic and agnostic perspective. I do think that organized religion has done great harm to our species. I’m also open to good people’s interpretation of religion. It’s a prevailing theme in my life, in the flesh and online. In elementary school (before the age of 10) a few friends brought me to church because I wasn’t there, my parents thought that was all right. ‘See it for yourself!’ they thought. I’ve sat in on many Sunday services, ranging from Catholic to Evangelical.

I went to church sometime this last June, with my friends who’d just had a baby. I was bored.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:13:02am

re: #43 Nyet

One other thing: atheistic and anti-religion are not synonymous.
Atheism refers to a philosophical stance on the existence of God. An atheist can adore religion otherwise - see S.E.Cupp (but not only).

I wonder how atheistic Ms Cupp really is. She may be using it as a way to market herself as a different kind of conservative woman.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:13:27am

NOTICE: Avoid CBS’s “Face the Nation” at all costs

10:30 a.m. — FACE THE NATION (CBS):

An interview with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

An interview with Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson.

An interview with Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.).

A discussion with former national security adviser Tom Donilon and David Ignatius of The Washington Post.

A political roundtable with Ben Domenech of The Federalist; Robert Costa and Ruth Marcus of The Washington Post; and Ron Fournier of National Journal.

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:13:47am

re: #43 Nyet

A couple of good Bishops in my Church are blatantly atheists. Bishop Spong is, I believe, out about it.

I find it possible to believe in God; I just don’t believe in an afterlife as it exists in popular myth.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:14:39am

I’ve edited my #45 a few times. I think I have it down now.

Writing. It’s not always correct the first time. You need to revise and edit.

Oy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:25:57am

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wonder how atheistic Ms Cupp really is. She may be using it as a way to market herself as a different kind of conservative woman.

S.E. Cupp is a classic and highly successful grifter. She sells herself as an atheistic outsider while at the same time carrying water for “Christian” folks who constantly complain about their “religious freedom” being violated.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:30:52am

re: #50 teleskiguy

S.E. Cupp is a classic and highly successful grifter. She sells herself as an atheistic outsider while at the same time carrying water for “Christian” folks who constantly complain about their “religious freedom” being violated.

QFT

She also attacks people at “elites” and “elitist” despite going to an Ivy League school and living in NYC. RationalWiki has more:
rationalwiki.org

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:31:31am

I don’t have the data, but I suppose most atheists are merely areligious rather than anti-religious.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:41:55am

Carryover from last thread:

re: #72 The Vicious Babushka

I wonder how much of this hate & genocide memorabilia that disturbed people want to pay good money for, is actually fake shit made in third world sweatshops.

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The “gas valve” screams “fake”.

1. Swastika on a valve, how neat.
2. And not even a Nazi type of swastika.
3. The site doesn’t even specify what camp this is supposedly from.

But then, there were auctions that sold “Nazi Jewish soap” even though we know that there was never such soap (the soap sold was the standard RIF brand). One is born every minute.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:52:11am

re: #53 Nyet

In fact this looks like an American gas valve produced by Crane:

Image: p_vh_swastika.jpg

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:54:23am

re: #54 Nyet

This is a nice heavy brass gas valve from the early 1900s, probably used for a gas lighting fixture. This piece is marked with a swastika in two places, so I believe it was made by the Crane Steel company. This company used to use the swastika as its logo. This was in the early 1900s before Nazi Germany began to use the swastika. A Google search said, “Crane Steel manufactured some of their pipe valves and fittings in the early 1900’s with the ancient “good luck” emblem of life and strength, then discontinued use of the decoration after the swastika became more associated with early 20th-century Nazi-Germany.”

etsy.com

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:56:22am

Oh, look, another Nazi gas chamber valve found in the US! /

plumbingzone.com

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 1:59:44am

re: #56 Nyet

And yet another one, like the one in the “news” story. Must be from the same death camp (a secret Nazi death camp on the American soil, that’s it!):

Crane Company gas valve with swastika decoration 1930s

ebay.it

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:03:02am

The Raw Story headline screams: “‘It’s capitalism at its worst’: Nazi gas chamber valve and slave collar among items hawked at Florida auction!!!11

Journalism at its best.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:06:04am

re: #58 Nyet

The purported gas-chamber valve hasn’t been authenticated. Grasso said he doesn’t know its history or origin.

“That tells you even more,” Kenigsberg said. “It means some people might be fabricating these items and people are still buying them.”

Nobody in that part of the world has heard of Google, apparently.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:17:10am
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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:17:23am
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freetoken  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:21:30am

re: #47 Timothy Watson

Good grief. Talk about giving over a “news” department to the looney ideologues. Is there anyone at CBS who does journalism?

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Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:31:35am

re: #61 Nyet

Did you get a chance to see “The Voices”?

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:33:11am

re: #63 Amory Blaine

Not yet…

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:38:23am
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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:40:02am
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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:42:22am
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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:45:07am
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Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:46:17am

Squirrels smoking crack.
Butthole Surfers - The Shame of Life

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:51:05am
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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 2:59:59am

ha

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 3:50:03am

Started reading the Dark Tower comics and I must say they look excellent so far.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2015 • 4:53:31am

Well let’s see just how much hate and discontent I stirred up this morning.

Letter to the Editor: Refugee Committee not a Hate Group

*cough* Bullshit *cough*

My reply’s are in the comment section.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 5:31:19am

re: #73 Bubblehead II

Well let’s see just how much hate and discontent I stirred up this morning.

Letter to the Editor: Refugee Committee not a Hate Group

*cough* Bullshit *cough*

My reply’s are in the comment section.

I like how he couches his language to sound like he’s all for restoring the original mission of education and by the way who needs refugees?

I look forward to hearing how your comments go over.

They would be more properly named the Anti-Refugee Committee, but that would be too obvious, I reckon.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 5:38:29am

Speaking of refugees, I read that China has taken in a little more than 750 refugees, and those were from SE Asia during the Vietnam War era.

Chinia would not be keen on accepting Muslims, I expect, in addition to a latent xenophobia among government officials.

Beijing is not having much luck dealing with the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, who for some strange reason don’t like the national government telling them what to do. Beijing is trying very hard to assimilate the Uyghurs into the majority Han culture, and squelch Islam in the process. Now, the government has a new worry. Some Uyghurs are joining ISIL.

Now if those refugees were rich and had tons of money to spend, I’m sure China could find room for them.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2015 • 5:47:02am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I like how he couches his language to sound like he’s all for restoring the original mission of education and by the way who needs refugees?

I look forward to hearing how your comments go over.

Me too. I expect I’ll receive some backlash from the more devout fundamentalists in the area. So be it.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:08:22am

re: #52 Nyet

I don’t have the data, but I suppose most atheists are merely areligious rather than anti-religious.

Anthropologists tend very much to the agnostic/atheistic, but they recognize the power of religion as a part of the cultural inventory. It is almost a sine qua non, to use god’s native language. Societies that are not good at statistics need gods to explain why they are always being fucked over.

Unfortunately, that approach takes us into the elitist realm of the “necessary lie”.

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:11:30am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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LastYearsMan  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:22:40am

re: #45 teleskiguy

I suppose I’m in between the atheistic and agnostic perspective.

I’m a militant agnostic. I have no idea what’s going on outside of our universe.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:25:15am

re: #79 LastYearsMan

I’m a militant agnostic. I have no idea what’s going on outside of our universe.

I have no idea what’s going on inside…

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Lani  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:32:22am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Anthropologists tend very much to the agnostic/atheistic, but they recognize the power of religion as a part of the cultural inventory. It is almost a sine qua non, to use god’s native language. Societies that are not good at statistics need gods to explain why they are always being fucked over.

Unfortunately, that approach takes us into the elitist realm of the “necessary lie”.

I often refer to myself as agnostic instead of atheist so peeps around me don’t freak out. Raised in a Baptist/Methodist home. Can quote the bible with the best of the righties. I appreciate the search for meaning, but in a Joseph Campbell sense. Totally atheist after recovering from the Baptist stuff. I raised my kids without religion, although the influence permeates everything in the US. They were fine until they heard about hell, the big flood, god’s wrath, etc. Totally freaked them out. They looked into Hinduism and Buddhism to save them from that angry god guy before letting it all go. Now we are happily unconcerned about angry sky gods.

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Bird in the Paw  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:33:49am

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’ll be filled to capacity with cat pictures within a year.

You say that like its a bad thing. :-/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:35:15am

re: #81 Lani

I look forward to the day when people all over the world stop worrying about angry sky gods and just decide to be good people.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:36:16am

I’m atheist but not quite anti-religion. Not so sure religion is the ‘cause’ of so much death and destruction though it’s clearly the reason.

My ‘faith’ is that humans will find some other reason or rationale to cause death and destruction over stupid shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:37:56am

re: #82 Bird in the Paw

You say that like its a bad thing. :-/

Oh, no! Not at all. A few hundred terabytes of storage seems enormous now, but you wait, soon people will be complaining that it’s not enough.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:38:36am

re: #35 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bing Bang, Big Crunch, lather, rinse, repeat is one hypothesis, as yet unverified by evidence. Let’s wait a few more billion years and see what happens.

If the cosmic redshift stops and turns into blueshift, then that’ll be bad — in a few billion years.

Yep, now I recall the Big Crunch theory. Blue shift should happen. Call it the Big Blue Oh Shit. So let’s just try and make it through the next million years without screwing that up.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:42:44am

re: #86 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Yep, now I recall the Big Crunch theory. Blue shift should happen. Call it the Big Blue Oh Shit. So let’s just try and make it through the next million years without screwing that up.

The Sun will be a red giant in another 5 billion years or so, and Earth will either be inside it or skimming the outer layers, either way burnt to a crisp. We’ll have more immediate concerns than a collapsing universe, assuming we still exist as a species.

5 billion years is a long, long time, after all.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:46:07am

re: #81 Lani

I often refer to myself as agnostic instead of atheist so peeps around me don’t freak out. Raised in a Baptist/Methodist home. Can quote the bible with the best of the righties. I appreciate the search for meaning, but in a Joseph Campbell sense. Totally atheist after recovering from the Baptist stuff. I raised my kids without religion, although the influence permeates everything in the US. They were fine until they heard about hell, the big flood, god’s wrath, etc. Totally freaked them out. They looked into Hinduism and Buddhism to save them from that angry god guy before letting it all go. Now we are happily unconcerned about angry sky gods.

We raised our kids to pick their own path. The boys are atheist when they think of religion at all. The girls drift from one Christian church to another, neither of them still Catholic.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:49:40am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Unfortunately, that approach takes us into the elitist realm of the “necessary lie”.

The elitists who subscribe to such a notion must be living in some pretty high ivory towers, given the amounts of terrorism, bigotry and plain irrationality sanctioned by religion.

While religion is obviously not the root of all evil (as ostensibly anti-religious dictatorships show), and culture arguably plays the primary role in how one interprets religion, religion does play the role of a sponge, having once absorbed the cultural baggage of a particular century, it preserves the said baggage for a long time in a slowly mutating sacred state.

The problem is that the often poisonous ideas of centuries past inevitably seep out of the sponge. So while arguing that “culture first” and “don’t blame all religion” and “there are many different sources of evil”, maybe it should be granted that having a sponge with toxic contents to deal with is not that good in the first place.

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WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:54:32am

re: #52 Nyet

I don’t have the data, but I suppose most atheists are merely areligious rather than anti-religious.

I become more and more anti-religious as I watch so many people try to force their (really bastardizatiin of what they think is their) religion on everyone else every single day.

I hate that, find it disgusting, and it makes me want to outlaw all religion to only being practiced or discussed in private.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:55:29am

re: #89 Nyet

The elitists who subscribe to such a notion must be living in some pretty high ivory towers, given the amounts of terrorism, bigotry and plain irrationality sanctioned by religion.

While religion is obviously not the root of all evil (as ostensibly anti-religious dictatorships show), and culture arguably plays the primary role in how one interprets religion, religion does play the role of a sponge, having once absorbed the cultural baggage of a particular century, it preserves the said baggage for a long time in a slowly mutating sacred state.

The problem is that the often poisonous ideas of centuries past inevitably seep out of the sponge. So while arguing that “culture first” and “don’t blame all religion” and “there are many different sources of evil”, maybe it should be granted that having a sponge with toxic contents to deal with is not that good in the first place.

If we create a world where everyone is fed, safe and educated, religion falls back to a fairly benign nostalgia. (Might be seeing that in modern Europe.) Until then the dirty sponge provides some shock-absorbtion.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:57:57am

re: #42 Nyet

There’s a difference between being anti-some ideology and being against people who subscribe to it. I don’t see religion as a positive phenomenon - which doesn’t mean I think worse of the religious people. A religious liberal is certainly closer to me than someone who doesn’t like religion and is a total wingnut asshole otherwise.

As most of you here know, I don’t really care what someone believes or doesn’t believe as long as they’re civil, but I do get annoyed with & tend to feel immediate dislike for atheists who say they’re anti-theist. By definition that means they’re not simply against religion, but against religious people. It’s an antagonistic position to take and immediately makes me feel hostile, which I can only assume is exactly their intent. For example, the Twitter profile of someone who favorited one of my tweets recently:

Taking a stand against bigotry and injustice. Ex-Muslim; Anti theist atheist; Prochoice; Marxist; Intersectional Feminist & I fucking love Beyonce. Peace.

Those are a LOT of labels, many of which cause me no small amount of cognitive dissonance when someone claims all of them at once.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2015 • 6:58:26am

re: #90 WhatEVs

I become more and more anti-religious as I watch so many people try to force their (really bastardizatiin of what they think is their) religion on everyone else every single day.

I hate that, find it disgusting, and it makes me want to outlaw all religion to only being practiced or discussed in private.

This. And the fact that very vocal fanatics are continually attempting to turn our government and culture into a continuation of their grasping for secular power and in-fighting with the other cults.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:00:30am

However, outlawing religion is not the solution since I think the base problem is still assholes. It just seems that assholes can get power in religious organizations and corrupt them easier than other places. (Or simply have more visible power.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:00:52am

re: #43 Nyet

One other thing: atheistic and anti-religion are not synonymous.

Except to bigots who feel threatened by people whose beliefs or non-beliefs differ.

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WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:08:06am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I like how he couches his language to sound like he’s all for restoring the original mission of education and by the way who needs refugees?

Not just that, but they’re recognized by the IRS, dammit!, so they have to be good and fine upstanding people! Oh, and his being in the military also puts him above all reproach.

Yeah, that whole thing reads like bullshit.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:08:46am

This came across my timeline this morning. E gad. *grimace*

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:10:38am

Changing the subject, I just peeked at Chuck’s site. He wrote a story saying that Kevin McCarthy and Renee Ellmers would both resign on Friday (the 9th).

But they didn’t.

The blog post is of course riddled with his usual self-congratulatory prose and a plea for donations.

Sounds great, until it’s dead wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:10:46am

The Iraqi Air Force targeted a Da’esh convoy - and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who was traveling in the convoy on his way to Karbala, well…..his fate is being currently described as “unknown”:

The Iraqi airforce struck a convoy of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in western Anbar province close to the Syrian border on Sunday, a military statement said.

The fate of the militant leader, who has declared himself the leader of a Caliphate in areas it controls in Iraq and Syria, is still unknown, the statement said.

“Iraqi air forces have bombed the convoy of the terrorist Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi while he was heading to Karabla to attend a meeting with Daesh commanders,” the statement read, using the Arabic acronym for ISIS.

english.alarabiya.net

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:15:32am

re: #97 CuriousLurker

This came across mt timeline this morning. E gad. *grimace*

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Does it make you want to keep a bag packed?

(OTOH, Ritzheimer’s hatefest seems to have bombed totally, the Phoenix rally coming out the largest at 100-200.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:17:20am

Wingnuts hyperventilating and freaking out over this “Common Core” method of solving an arithmetic problem.
I think this is much better prep for algebra, calculus and advanced math than the “carry & borrow” method we learned back in the day.

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WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:20:16am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

However, outlawing religion is not the solution since I think the base problem is still assholes. It just seems that assholes can get power in religious organizations and corrupt them easier than other places. (Or simply have more visible power.)

There is no solution. They’ve already invaded the government. You have Hucks and Santorums who are open about theocratic US rule as government; they want it and won’t stop until they get it.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:20:51am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Does it make you want to keep a bag packed?

Heh, kinda. Don’t know where I’d go though.

(OTOH, Ritzheimer’s hatefest seems to have bombed totally, the Phoenix rally coming out the largest at 100-200.)

Yeah, I was really happy to hear that the rallies were mostly big stinking piles of #FAIL. Ritzheimer is such an immature douche. And what is it with Phoenix? *smh*

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:20:52am

This is what passes for cleverness with white supremacist scumbags.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:23:27am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts hyperventilating and freaking out over this “Common Core” method of solving an arithmetic problem.
I think this is much better prep for algebra, calculus and advanced math than the “carry & borrow” method we learned back in the day.

Wingnuts are still hyperventilating over the New Math (set theory, Venn diagrams, etc.) that was taught back in the 1960s. They really do not understand that there are many ways to solve even simple math problems. There is no One True Way™, but from people who believe there is only One True Religion™, what do you expect?

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:24:10am

re: #91 Decatur Deb

If we create a world where everyone is fed, safe and educated, religion falls back to a fairly benign nostalgia. (Might be seeing that in modern Europe.) Until then the dirty sponge provides some shock-absorbtion.

Or infects the wounds, as the case may be.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:24:33am

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Ooooo! 88 followers. Big time success.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:26:17am

re: #103 CuriousLurker

Heh, kinda. Don’t know where I’d go though.

Yeah, I was really happy to hear that the rallies were mostly big stinking piles of #FAIL. Ritzheimer is such an immature douche. And what is it with Phoenix? *smh*

Our family actually had 3 generations of overseas deployments to relatively dicey areas, so non-combatant evacuation is almost a lifestyle. Broad hint: find out where everyone else is going and go 45 degrees to the left or right.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:28:01am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ooooo! 88 followers. Big time success.

The whole tweet is a reference to white supremacism. 88 is their code for “Heil Hitler” and the rest of it is a paraphrase of the infamous “14 words.”

These really are Chuck’s fans.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:29:01am

re: #106 Nyet

Or infects the wounds, as the case may be.

It has a price, but seems to offer an overall evolutionary advantage. Education disinfects it some, coercion and polemics seem to make it worse.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:30:38am

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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This is what passes for cleverness with white supremacist scumbags.

He’s openly courting them with wordplay on The 14 Words. He is one of them.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:31:15am

Off to make breakfast. Wife is on a 3-generation all-female camping trip. BBL

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:31:31am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

I agree. It seems to be a good way to get kids to accustomed to algebra.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:31:32am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

However, outlawing religion is not the solution since I think the base problem is still assholes. It just seems that assholes can get power in religious organizations and corrupt them easier than other places. (Or simply have more visible power.)

The base problem is the human nature. The question is whether religion helps or hinders the progress of the human nature.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:31:48am

Oh yes, almost missed that. 88 followers.

He keeps upping his Cretin Cred. Or should it be lowering?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:33:44am

re: #109 Charles Johnson

The whole tweet is a reference to white supremacism. 88 is their code for “Heil Hitler” and the rest of it is a paraphrase of the infamous “14 words.”

These really are Chuck’s fans.

I had forgotten the connections.

In China, 88 is shorthand for bye-bye, because 8 is “ba” 八 in Chinese.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:38:07am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

It has a price, but seems to offer an overall evolutionary advantage.

“Offers an evolutionary advantage” may (or may not) be a true observation, but it’s neither here, nor there when it comes societal value. Evolution is red in tooth and claw. Struggle for life may lead to further “evolving”, but it’s arguably not very nice to make people struggle for life.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:43:32am

re: #111 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

He’s openly courting them with wordplay on The 14 Words. He is one of them.

Well, he’s alienated most everyone else.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:43:55am

re: #117 Nyet

“Offers an evolutionary advantage” may (or may not) be a true observation, but it’s neither here, nor there when it comes societal value. Evolution is red in tooth and claw. Struggle for life may lead to further “evolving”, but it’s arguably not very nice to make people struggle for life.

I’m describing, not prescribing. Right now we don’t know if religion serves as an analogue for the appendix or the liver in terms of cultural evolution.

Those eggs are not going to fry themselves.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:45:27am

And I’m going to sleep. See you all later.

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EmmaAnne  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:45:53am

re: #92 CuriousLurker

As most of you here know, I don’t really care what someone believes or doesn’t believe as long as they’re civil, but I do get annoyed with & tend to feel immediate dislike for atheists who say they’re anti-theist. By definition that means they’re not simply against religion, but against religious people. It’s an antagonistic position to take and immediately makes me feel hostile, which I can only assume is exactly their intent.
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My guess is that a lot of these people are like a person after a bad breakup who is suspicious of and hostile to the gender of their ex for a while. I don’t know anything about that person you quoted, but people I have known who sound like that often were damaged by religion and are gun shy and volatile about it. Hopefully they get over that.

People who were never religious can be snotty about it (“sky daddy” and such) but don’t usually have that edge.

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Nyet  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:52:11am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

I’m describing, not prescribing. Right now we don’t know if religion serves as an analogue for the appendix or the liver in terms of cultural evolution.

It’s certainly something that seeps toxins back into the body.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2015 • 7:55:01am
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allegro  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:07:10am

re: #121 EmmaAnne

People who were never religious can be snotty about it (“sky daddy” and such) but don’t usually have that edge.

I think a little snottiness, as you put it, is a minimal response from atheists who have had to put up with strangers knocking on our doors and otherwise intruding on our space, demanding our attention to threaten us with hell and eternal torture. For some of us, like here in Texas, we are forced to live in a bit of a theocracy in the form of annoying “blue laws” that deny liquor stores and car dealerships the right to be open on Sundays and prevent grocery stores from selling beer and wine before noon. When I got sick several years ago and was about to go into surgery, the surgical prep nurse kept grabbing my hand and insisting on praying and demanding my acceptance of Jesus as my savior because I may not make it through the emergency surgery.

So yeah, we get a little snippy sometimes.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:13:39am

re: #36 Amory Blaine

‘Superman’ Memory Crystal Would Last 1 Million Years

We’ll store them in a little glass container with holes at the top to permit air exchange.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:14:15am

Really want to screw with a wingnut? Tell me an Arab philosopher came up with the Laffer curve:

Laffer Curve
Ibn Khaldun introduced the concept now popularly known as the Laffer Curve, that increases in tax rates initially increase tax revenues, but eventually the increases in tax rates cause a decrease in tax revenues. This occurs as too high a tax rate discourages producers in the economy.

Ibn Khaldun used a dialectic approach to describe the sociological implications of tax choice (which now forms a part of economics theory):

In the early stages of the state, taxes are light in their incidence, but fetch in a large revenue…As time passes and kings succeed each other, they lose their tribal habits in favor of more civilized ones. Their needs and exigencies grow…owing to the luxury in which they have been brought up. Hence they impose fresh taxes on their subjects…and sharply raise the rate of old taxes to increase their yield…But the effects on business of this rise in taxation make themselves felt. For business men are soon discouraged by the comparison of their profits with the burden of their taxes…Consequently production falls off, and with it the yield of taxation.

This analysis is very similar to the modern economic concept known as the Laffer Curve. Laffer does not claim to have invented the concept himself, noting that the idea was present in the work of Ibn Khaldun and, more recently, John Maynard Keynes.[25]

en.wikipedia.org

(Another product of a Wikiwalk, the other’s day find was the Cadaver Synod.)

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:16:21am

re: #109 Charles Johnson

The whole tweet is a reference to white supremacism. 88 is their code for “Heil Hitler” and the rest of it is a paraphrase of the infamous “14 words.”

These really are Chuck’s fans.

So another point in favor of the creator/writer being weev?

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:17:01am

re: #27 teleskiguy

I’ve been reading up and listening to a lot of anti-LGF agitprop. One thing that was immediately noticeable was people declaring that LGF is anti-religion and anti-Christian in particular.

As a regular reader and commenter at LGF, I know that that’s total bullshit.

I know we try but we are not entirely successful.

My wife is a Christian and she won’t post here anymore because she feels she’ll be ripped a new one when she does. She does still lurk though.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:17:29am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

I’m describing, not prescribing. Right now we don’t know if religion serves as an analogue for the appendix or the liver in terms of cultural evolution.

Those eggs are not going to fry themselves.

Unless you’re in Zuul’s apartment.

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Lani  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:18:05am

re: #121 EmmaAnne

My guess is that a lot of these people are like a person after a bad breakup who is suspicious of and hostile to the gender of their ex for a while. I don’t know anything about that person you quoted, but people I have known who sound like that often were damaged by religion and are gun shy and volatile about it. Hopefully they get over that.

People who were never religious can be snotty about it (“sky daddy” and such) but don’t usually have that edge.

I was raised to be in terror of offending the sky god. Glad I’ve moved on. It also trained me to feel inferior to men. I appreciate the quest for meaning for our lives. I don’t appreciate religions that subjugate people because of gender, sexual identity and ethnic heritage.

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Great White Snark  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:20:10am

re: #92 CuriousLurker

I wonder if those that are inclined for whatever reason to harshly discriminate learns that racism (or sexism or…) is bad, but finds some other shallow criteria to act on. One more acceptable. Perhaps about wealthy people or poor people. EDIT-Or religion Crypto suspicious might describe it.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:20:40am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts hyperventilating and freaking out over this “Common Core” method of solving an arithmetic problem.
I think this is much better prep for algebra, calculus and advanced math than the “carry & borrow” method we learned back in the day.

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If I do subtraction on paper, I use New Math:
new math by tom lehrer

But if I’m doing it on the fly, I do it that way, more or less. Sometimes I count up.
568-293=
I start with 7 to make 300, add 200 to get to 500, the add 68 to 207 to get 275.
While addition and subtraction are technically the same, it’s easier to go up than down.

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Great White Snark  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:23:16am

(Sorry about my misfire above with two comments in one.)

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Saw the Blue Angels today, for at least a little bit. Doing loops with trailing smoke. We’ll see what I managed to get a photo of, but nothing that good.

That is about the only bright side of today’s trip to SF.

I liked the smaller planes they flew years ago. I kinda hope the F-35 becomes their plane for a really modern plane that is agile enough to stay close to the bleachers. Unlike say the old Phantom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:23:58am

re: #127 Timothy Watson

So another point in favor of the creator/writer being weev?

He says he is.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:24:22am

re: #133 Great White Snark

I like ‘em LOUD.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:26:35am
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Great White Snark  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:26:49am

re: #135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Heh I used to go to a lot of airshows. Before stealth. I wonder if they are quieter when the throttle is cut, aero noise wise.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:27:53am

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not sure about that.

I keep wondering how people manage to make programs that use all 4 GB on my Mac. I recall when decent work got done in 48K.

Oh, and you kids get off of my lawn!

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:28:41am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts hyperventilating and freaking out over this “Common Core” method of solving an arithmetic problem.
I think this is much better prep for algebra, calculus and advanced math than the “carry & borrow” method we learned back in the day.

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For my mom (b. 1950), the Common Core way is the “old way”. That’s sorta of the way she was taught and it was useful for her when she worked as a cashier for a number of years back in the day.

The way she would make change is given the value of the transaction (e.g., $8.53) and the value of cash given (e.g., $10) she would count up the coin change to get $9.00 even and then another dollar bill to make it to $10.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:30:57am

re: #139 Timothy Watson

For my mom (b. 1950), the Common Core way is the “old way”. That’s sorta of the way she was taught and it was useful for her when she worked as a cashier for a number of years back in the day.

She way she would make change is given the value of the transaction (e.g., $8.53) and the value of cash given (e.g., $10) she would count up the coin change to get $9.00 even and then another dollar bill to make it to $10.

Ah yes, the old way of making change. Now the machine just spits out the correct change and the cashier lays the bills on my palm & then piles on the coin.

I’m like “give me the coins first and then the bills”

Blank look.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:31:36am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:33:20am

re: #139 Timothy Watson

That’s because fundamentally, as they taught us in second grade, that addition is commutative. It doesn’t matter what order you do it or whether you break up the numbers into smaller pieces.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:36:31am

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

Ah yes, the old way of making change. Now the machine just spits out the correct change and the cashier lays the bills on my palm & then piles on the coin.

I’m like “give me the coins first and then the bills”

Blank look.

They have to do that on purpose. Anybody who gets change, including the kids who give it, know that’s a pain in the ass. Sometimes I pay that way, if it’s a cashier I remember, because I’m a dick.

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Great White Snark  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:38:33am

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

In my day gig we have metal transfers. Say a guy brings in a couple 24k coins for his gold casting. Long story short in the end you owe him some 14k or maybe 24k metal back. Then metal dealers tend to use avoir, immigrants use metric, and we get from 24 karat to 14 karat, through two weight systems to give correct “change”.

Then we get to the money part. If the young runner was under educated at LAUSD, well we managers on Hill street just send sealed boxes back and forth. No point wasting time with anyone that can’t get the math.

And yes a lot of us do this on paper. “Show your work” has merit at so many hundreds of bucks an ounce.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:49:15am

Feeling a little gob smacked. I was just over at Google Maps and traveled up a well-known street back in my hometown and it was completely & utterly alien to me. I mean, I must’ve covered at least 4-5 miles of it and except for a few businesses that I recognized, it was like being in some foreign place I’d never been before. Even recognizing the businesses was weird because their surroundings were totally different.

It was like stepping into the Twilight Zone. As a taxi driver for so many years, I knew those streets like the back of my hand and could have navigated them blindfolded. To see them again and recognize almost nothing was really, really, REALLY unsettling.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:51:12am

So this appears in my FB feed this morning:

It’s if there WERE no god, anyway.

How does that even make sense? In order not to believe in the Tooth Fairy, there has to be a Tooth Fairy?

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:52:23am

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Feeling a little gob smacked. I just over at Google Maps and traveled up a well-known street back in my hometown and it completely & utterly alien to me. I mean, I must’ve covered at least 4-5 miles of it and except for a few businesses that I recognized, it was like being in some foreign place I’d never been before. Even recognizing the businesses was weird because their surroundings were totally different.

It was like stepping into the Twilight Zone. As a taxi driver for so many years, I knew those streets like the back of my hand and could have navigated them blindfolded. To see them again and recognize almost nothing was really, really, REALLY unsettling.

I have done the same thing I agree it is weird. The street we used to live on is now the main entrance drive to Kentucky Kingdom Amusement Park. No houses are left on the street.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:54:17am

re: #147 Tigger2

I have done the same thing I agree it is weird.

I guess that’s what I get for not going back for almost 20 years, but… sheesh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 8:58:29am

re: #148 CuriousLurker

I guess that’s what I get for not going back for almost 20 years, but… sheesh.

Years ago, Dad and I were travelling through Pittsburgh, where he grew up. He turned down a street and I immediately noticed EVERY SINGLE PARKED CAR was facing us. I said, “I think this is a one-way street.”

He said, “Don’t be ridiculous! I know these streets, I grew up here!”

A few seconds later, “I think you’re right.”

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:00:30am

Mom sold our home of almost 40 years 6 months ago. She pulls out iPad and asks ‘Did you see what they did to my house?’

‘Mom, it’s their house as of 6 months ago. And the lawn is brown because CA is in a drought.’

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:05:13am

Whoa, did you guys know Amazon is delivering on Sundays now? Apparently they’re transitioning over to delivering things themselves rather than using UPS, USPS, or FedEx for everything, and it looks like they’ll be delivering 7 days a week now.

I’m guessing that’s eventually gonna leave a mark where the delivery services are concerned. The Amazon account must be worth millions of dollars in annual revenue.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:06:31am

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

You just can’t argue with a meme signed “truth.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:07:22am

re: #152 jaunte

You just can’t argue with a meme signed “truth.”

Watch me.
///////

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:07:57am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

The Iraqi Air Force targeted a Da’esh convoy - and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who was traveling in the convoy on his way to Karbala, well…..his fate is being currently described as “unknown”:

english.alarabiya.net

I hope they sent that SOB to Hell. But even if he only got wounded, that would still be the morale boost the Iraqi military needs. A way of saying: “We can hurt the enemy. We can win against him.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:12:09am

Morning…er, Noon everyone!

I was watching the local NBC stations political show and MTP is right after it. I decided to gag down some Todd insanity to catch Bernie Sanders, but it was the first part of the show I was glad, and also extremely pissed, to have watched.

If you get a chance, watch at least the first 15 minutes. Chuck had Reps. Charlie Dent (R-PA) and David Brat (R-VA) on with his panel and they all got into a pretty good dice over the Speaker of the House problems. I don’t know much about Dent, but he seemed to be trying to be reasonable (for a current Republican) but damn Brat was just a fucking asshole.

I know one thing, those Freedom caucus guys are going to kill Social Security as I was sold it when I first entered adulthood, and now that I am 61, I am looking at getting royally screwed. I feel totally fucked about my personal future.

The segment was about 5-10 minutes of the very demonstration of what must be going on in that party, and none of it is good. I almost thought they were going to start calling each other out.

Bernie was Bernie. I like the guy, but I just don’t know. I like idealism as much as the next dreamer, but in today’s political wars hoping you can override conservative blockage and Wall Street by rallying people to go out in huge demonstrations and protests just will not cut it.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:13:54am

re: #152 jaunte

You just can’t argue with a meme signed “truth.”

Heh, the religious arguments remind me of designers arguing over Illustrator vs Freehand/Corel Draw, InDesign vs Quark, Mac vs PC, etc. With code geeks it’s often standards purists vs real world practicality, or which programming language is the The Best™. Photographers? Canon vs Nikon. Pick any subject and it’ll be the same thing.

I’m pretty sure religion isn’t the problem—we are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:18:54am

re: #156 CuriousLurker

Tribalism, one of those hangovers from our evolutionary development we struggle to overcome.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:19:37am

re: #156 CuriousLurker

InDesign is way better than Quark! You know this…/

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:25:13am

Kelsey Grammer immolated whatever respect I retained for him on a funeral pyre of Burning Stupid as he and his wife posted pictures of each of them wearing t-shirts reading “Would it bother us more if they used guns? Abort73.com” alongside the image of a Model 92 Beretta pistol.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:25:52am

re: #158 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

InDesign is way better than Quark! You know this…/

I never understood Quark, so I was really happy when ID came along and knocked it off its throne. The Illustrator thing though, sheesh. I love Illy and prefer it over other vector drawing apps, but I’ll use whatever’s available.

I remember at one point telling some fellow designers that I was kinda half expecting them to come marching up to Freehand/Corel users holding a copy of Illustrator in one hand and a sword in the other screaming, “Convert or die, infidel—your choice!”

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:26:19am

re: #156 CuriousLurker

Heh, the religious arguments remind me of designers arguing over Illustrator vs Freehand/Corel Draw, InDesign vs Quark, Mac vs PC, etc. With code geeks it’s often standards purists vs real world practicality, or which programming language is the The BestTM. Photographers? Canon vs Nikon. Pick any subject and it’ll be the same thing.

I’m pretty sure religion isn’t the problem—we are.

HaHaHa…do I know all that all too well.

In 1991I had to transition from “analog” (pen and ink, paste-ups, airbrush, etc.) to Windows PC with Aldus PageMaker and CorelDraw. In a Mac world that led to much abuse.

Back in art school people argued over Grumbacher or Windsor-Newton watercolors and Eberhard Faber or Berol pencils.

All that matter is the finished product and if it is good or sucks.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:27:46am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Kelsey Grammer immolated whatever respect I retained for him on a funeral pyre of Burning Stupid as he and his wife posted pictures of each of them wearing t-shirts reading “Would it bother us more if they used guns? Abort73.com” alongside the image of a Model 92 Beretta pistol.

Something’s wrong with your link, but I think it’s probably the same pic someone posted here yesterday. It was pretty disgusting.

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b_sharp  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:28:27am

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, as bad as Hiroshima was, the creation of the Universe was WAY more violent and disruptive. It’s not like we had the bang and then instantly everything came into perfect form. There was mass upheaval as the earliest planets and celestial bodies formed.

To quote a lyric from one of my favourite songs: Destruction leads to a very rough road but it also breeds creation.

The BB wasn’t an explosion in the sense used by YECs.

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b_sharp  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:30:28am

re: #32 teleskiguy

For the record: I am an atheist.

For the record ‘m a kumquat.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:31:31am

re: #161 ObserverArt

HaHaHa…do I know all that all too well.

In 1991I had to transition from “analog” (pen and ink, paste-ups, airbrush, etc.) to Windows PC with Aldus PageMaker and CorelDraw. In a Mac world that led to much abuse.

Back in art school people argued over Grumbacher or Windsor-Newton watercolors and Eberhard Faber or Berol pencils.

ROFLOL—why am I not surprised?

All that matter is the finished product and if it is good or sucks.

QFT

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:31:34am

Yesterday morning, the Older Boy was Facetiming with his Girlfriend, who was making a ‘Dutch Baby’. He ended up making us waffles on the wafflemaker we gave him for his birthday, so even though the GF wasn’t physically present, her influence still got me a yummy breakfast. Great way to start the day!

Then Mrs. FBW announced that she was in a PANIC about earthquakes!!! And we needed to get a water barrel NOW!!!! and we need to store it at a friend’s house because the giant Eucalyptus across the creek is going to crash down on our house and we won’t be able to stay here!!!!

So, we went and got two 30 gal. barrels and accoutrements. That calmed her down enough to participate in a bit of Geometry. I used my iPhone on the ‘Level’ setting, sighting along the side at the tip top of the tree, and having her read off the angle. Even if it falls directly toward our house, it will still fall about 20 yards short. That, and filling one of the barrels, made her feel better.

I decided that, after water, the most important item to procure for our Earthquake Kit was a 30 day supply of everyone’s medication. I don’t want to face Mrs. FBW and the Boys without their meds, in a crisis.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:31:57am

re: #162 CuriousLurker

Something’s wrong with your link, but I think it’s probably the same pic someone posted here yesterday. It was pretty disgusting.

Link is fixed. Disgust remains. Article filed in “Supporting Gun Rights” drawer, in the “You’re Doing It WRONG!!” file.

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:32:01am

re: #164 b_sharp

For the record ‘m a kumquat.

For the record, I am Groot.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:34:56am

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Link is fixed. Disgust remains. Article filed in “Supporting Gun Rights” drawer, in the “You’re Doing It WRONG!!” file.

Yep, that’s the same pic. Ugh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:35:10am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Kelsey Grammer immolated whatever respect I retained for him on a funeral pyre of Burning Stupid as he and his wife posted pictures of each of them wearing t-shirts reading “Would it bother us more if they used guns? Abort73.com” alongside the image of a Model 92 Beretta pistol.

Years ago, I decided not to care what entertainers think. This was after calls to boycott this or that actor or singer because they said stupid shit. It allows me to watch Scientologists on the Big Screen without caring that they believe in crazy shit, for example.

We don’t pay them to think. We pay them to convince us they’re someone else for a while, for our entertainment. Why would we give a shit what they think about politics?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:36:46am

re: #168 A Cranky One

For the record, I am Groot.

Finger to the throat means death. Metaphor!!!

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:37:54am

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Years ago, I decided not to care what entertainers think. This was after calls to boycott this or that actor or singer because they said stupid shit. It allows me to watch Scientologists on the Big Screen without caring that they believe in crazy shit, for example.

We don’t pay them to think. We pay them to convince us they’re someone else for a while, for our entertainment. Why would we give a shit what they think about politics?

In this case because Grammer’s asshattery just provided gun control proponents with a stick with which to beat supporters of gun rights, and because had he not been so stupid Grammer might have been useful in countering anti-gun celebrities. Now he just looks like an idiot.

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Nojay UK  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:41:58am

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

Ah yes, the old way of making change. Now the machine just spits out the correct change and the cashier lays the bills on my palm & then piles on the coin.

The reason for that is so the security camera above each till can see that all the cash that comes out of the register ends up in your hand and not in the till operator’s pocket.

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b_sharp  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:43:19am

re: #168 A Cranky One

For the record, I am Groot.

That’s irrelevant. Everybody is Groot.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:43:46am

Okay, time to go make some Gelli prints. Later, lizards.

Monoprinting Layers — Step-by-Step

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blueraven  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:46:03am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Kelsey Grammer immolated whatever respect I retained for him on a funeral pyre of Burning Stupid as he and his wife posted pictures of each of them wearing t-shirts reading “Would it bother us more if they used guns? Abort73.com” alongside the image of a Model 92 Beretta pistol.

All you need to know about Kelsey Grammer right here:

An active campaigner for the GOP, Grammer was a guest at President George W. Bush’s first inauguration, campaigned for John McCain in the 2008 general election and endorsed Michele Bachmann for the Republican nomination for President in 2012.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:50:39am

re: #176 blueraven

All you need to know about Kelsey Grammer right here:

That last does say it all. Nothing wrong with attending George W. inauguration or with campaigning for John McCain (unless it cause a person to share a podium with Sarah Palin, which counts as faux pas). But supporting Michelle Bachmann qualifies as being nutty.

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stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:51:10am

re: #139 Timothy Watson

For my mom (b. 1950), the Common Core way is the “old way”. That’s sorta of the way she was taught and it was useful for her when she worked as a cashier for a number of years back in the day.

The way she would make change is given the value of the transaction (e.g., $8.53) and the value of cash given (e.g., $10) she would count up the coin change to get $9.00 even and then another dollar bill to make it to $10.

When I was in my 20’s, I used to go to an A&W now and then for lunch. They had a carhop who counted out the coin change but, when she got to the dollar amount, would say ‘one’ and then continue to give you bills so that your meal cost less than a dollar. I went there two days in a row and got the same carhop both days (she did it both times), but then she wasn’t there the next time I went.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:55:32am

I could maybe understand campaigning for W. But after that, it’s all downhill. The last Republican Prez candidate I voted for was H in 1992.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 9:56:10am

Fox Sports just had a hilarious segment “Why Eagles Why”

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:00:16am

Last day of the fiesta…

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:02:46am

re: #176 blueraven

All you need to know about Kelsey Grammer right here:

Geez, I knew he was a conservative/Republican, I didn’t realize he was full-metal wingnut.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:04:40am

10 Hours of Shame Nun for Kelsey Grammer.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:05:26am

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

In this case because Grammer’s asshattery just provided gun control proponents with a stick with which to beat supporters of gun rights, and because had he not been so stupid Grammer might have been useful in countering anti-gun celebrities. Now he just looks like an idiot.

So, I guess by this comment you are for NO gun control of any kind, correct?

And no, I don’t expect you to answer. But it is pretty clear your thinking.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:08:02am

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

In this case because Grammer’s asshattery just provided gun control proponents with a stick with which to beat supporters of gun rights, and because had he not been so stupid Grammer might have been useful in countering anti-gun celebrities. Now he just looks like an idiot.

He IS an idiot. And honestly, it’s the crazy-ass gun rights absolutists who provide the gun control proponents with the sticks.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:09:06am

re: #174 b_sharp

That’s irrelevant. Everybody is Groot.

Can you be a Groot if you have no idea what a Groot is?

Part 2 - Am I less a human because I do not know?

: )

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:12:01am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

That last does say it all. Nothing wrong with attending George W. inauguration or with campaigning for John McCain (unless it cause a person to share a podium with Sarah Palin, which counts as faux pas). But supporting Michelle Bachmann qualifies as being nutty.

The whole gol’damn party is pretty nutty. Right now, Republicans are bad for America.

Prove me wrong!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:15:43am

Speaking of crazy-ass gun rights absolutists, another thing that appeared on my FB feed was someone trying to argue that the Northern Arizona University shooting happened because it was a Gun Free Zone.

So I looked into it a bit. Apparently there was an altercation, and a student went and got a gun, and opened fire. He was tackled by other students, but not before killing one and injuring three others. No planning, no manifesto, no intentionally targeting a gun free zone. Just an angry asshole who had a gun.

But clearly, the crazy-ass gun rights absolutists are now primed to respond to any shooting by parrotting ‘Gun Free Zone’, and calling for more guns to defend against all the guns, because we need our guns.

This is beyond tiresome.

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CleverToad  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:16:38am

re: #151 CuriousLurker

Got home from church about half an hour ago, at the same time as a US Post Office truck pulled up. USPS on a Sunday? What he delivered was a DVD we had ordered from Amazon. Yeah, that’s the first time I’ve seen this.

Oh yeah, on the religion them from earlier in the thread — stodgy old Lutheran, grateful to my faith for the comfort and sometimes the needed strength it’s brought me at rough times in my life. No qualms about talking about it amongst the varied views of the Lizards. Do not appreciate the misguided adherents who try to force their views unasked on others. Do NOT want the flippin’ theocrats to gain any more power, and will vote consistently to reduce the amount they’ve already grabbed. Oh yeah, and would like to see the IRS redefine non-taxable “church activities” much more narrowly, if at all. Right after they redefine the non-taxable political organizations that masquerade as charities.

(Rant ended, now have to go make raw-fries for a really cranky 91-year-old mother who says I need to stop yammering with people on the computer and FEED her…)

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:19:01am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:21:14am

re: #189 CleverToad

Got home from church about half an hour ago, at the same time as a US Post Office truck pulled up. USPS on a Sunday? What he delivered was a DVD we had ordered from Amazon. Yeah, that’s the first time I’ve seen this.

I recall seeing somewhere that Amazon was paying USPS to deliver stuff on Sundays in certain areas.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:23:47am

re: #188 Blind Frog Belly White

When your only tool is the 2ndA, every problem looks like a Bad Guy With A Gun.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:24:06am

re: #180 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Fox Sports just had a hilarious segment “Why Eagles Why”

They also just had a NFL score of Chiefs: 1 Bears: 0 listed.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:26:32am

re: #189 CleverToad

Got home from church about half an hour ago, at the same time as a US Post Office truck pulled up. USPS on a Sunday? What he delivered was a DVD we had ordered from Amazon. Yeah, that’s the first time I’ve seen this.

Oh yeah, on the religion them from earlier in the thread — stodgy old Lutheran, grateful to my faith for the comfort and sometimes the needed strength it’s brought me at rough times in my life. No qualms about talking about it amongst the varied views of the Lizards. Do not appreciate the misguided adherents who try to force their views unasked on others. Do NOT want the flippin’ theocrats to gain any more power, and will vote consistently to reduce the amount they’ve already grabbed. Oh yeah, and would like to see the IRS redefine non-taxable “church activities” much more narrowly, if at all. Right after they redefine the non-taxable political organizations that masquerade as charities.

(Rant ended, now have to go make raw-fries for a really cranky 91-year-old mother who says I need to stop yammering with people on the computer and FEED her…)

Double check it’s not a bunch of cats in a human suit.

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:27:48am

re: #189 CleverToad


(Rant ended, now have to go make raw-fries for a really cranky 91-year-old mother who says I need to stop yammering with people on the computer and FEED her…)

I’m also cranky. Would you feed me too?

;)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:31:58am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

I recall seeing somewhere that Amazon was paying USPS to deliver stuff on Sundays in certain areas.

Amazon has been using USPS for weekend deliveries here in SoCal for almost two years. We’re close enough to their distribution center to get free next-day delivery on some things if you have Prime.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:32:42am
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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:33:57am

re: #197 jaunte

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This may not turn out as well for the cop this time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:34:18am
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:35:47am

You know, it is rather amusing someone can post something about guns, but there will be no discussion of it on a political discussion blog/forum.

Is that not a prime example of the problem with the whole damn gun problem in this country?

Humans are just not as important as blue-black metal in this country. And, it is disgusting. Maybe, just maybe when every single person in this country knows someone that has been killed by a gun things will be changed.

But I doubt it.

Maybe the phrase: “You’ll have to pry my guns from my cold dead hands” really is the truth.

Later.

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:38:52am

re: #200 ObserverArt


Maybe the phrase: “You’ll have to pry my guns from my cold dead hands” really is the truth.

Later.

Your Proposal is Acceptable

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:39:40am

re: #197 jaunte

Wow. That’s going to blow up.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:43:19am

re: #202 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I hope so.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:46:36am
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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:49:56am

re: #204 jaunte

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Hell the damn cops consider just asking a question interfering with police activate. It’s like they think they are to important to be asked a question.

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lizardofid  Oct 11, 2015 • 10:58:40am

re: #204 jaunte

It’s just impossible for me to imagine, based on that video clip, how the officer could justify tazing that man, as he knelt there.

But I hope enough attention remains on the officer, that he has to at least attempt to defend it. I just can’t see how he could.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:02:15am

Hey, whatever happened to the ‘Open Season’ on police officers that was all the rage on the Right after one guy got shot? I don’t imagine that a wave of police officers being killed would fail to make the news, so I’m assuming that the ensuing month and a half since that poor deputy was shot has not been filled with dead police.

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CleverToad  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:02:50am

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t think it’s a bunch of cats in a old-lady suit, but you never know. It was demanding bacon to go with the raw fries, so that’s a possibility…

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:02:54am

re: #197 jaunte

Isn’t going to be much longer before some police officers will use, “He needed killin’.” as a reason for discharging their weapons.

And they’ll get away with it.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:04:58am

re: #206 lizardofid

It’s just impossible for me to imagine, based on that video clip, how the officer could justify tazing that man, as he knelt there.

I’m pretty sure a white city councilman, even if he was a 26 year old in a t-shirt, wouldn’t have been handled the same way.

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CleverToad  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:05:08am

re: #206 lizardofid

Agree with the comment.

Would also like to add an extra upding for your nic :}

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:06:24am

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, whatever happened to the ‘Open Season’ on police officers that was all the rage on the Right after one guy got shot? I don’t imagine that a wave of police officers being killed would fail to make the news, so I’m assuming that the ensuing month and a half since that poor deputy was shot has not been filled with dead police.

It wasn’t just one cop, it was two and one of them was in the Chicago metro area, which made it even more visible. There’s not been a large increase in police deaths this year, but the “thrill kill” nature of a handful of murders of police officers started the “War on Cops” meme. What those murders really are is psychopaths making war on the world.

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lizardofid  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:06:48am

re: #210 jaunte

I’m sure your right. sadly.

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blueraven  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:08:06am

re: #204 jaunte

Well, I am certainly willing to see all the videos before making a judgement. But let’s just say, I am very skeptical!

They need to produce any evidence that they think proves he deserved to be tasered. ASAP.

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lizardofid  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:08:27am

re: #211 CleverToad

Thanks : )

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:09:51am

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

More to the point, there have actually been FEWER cops killed this year than most years, so there never was an “Open Season”. It was all just bullshit to delegitimize BlackLivesMatter, because apparently, they don’t.

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blueraven  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:11:46am

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

It wasn’t just one cop, it was two and one of them was in the Chicago metro area, which made it even more visible. There’s not been a large increase in police deaths this year, but the “thrill kill” nature of a handful of murders of police officers started the “War on Cops” meme. What those murders really are is psychopaths making war on the world.

So whatever happened on that case of the officer near Chicago? Last I heard they had no suspects, and even suicide was mentioned as a possibility.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:13:02am

re: #214 blueraven

They apparently are saying that if he didn’t move his arms into position to be easily cuffed, instead of just letting them hang passively to his sides, that constitutes “resisting” arrest, and he should be tased. After which they have to reach down and put his arms in position to be cuffed anyway.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:13:57am

Afghanistan and Russia to sign delivery deal for Mi-35 helicopters

Afghanistan and Russia are set to sign an agreement for the delivery of Mi-35 gunship helicopters as Afghan forces seek to boost their capabilities.

Zamir Kabulov, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s representative to Afghanistan, says the agreement is expected to be signed this month. The details of the agreement are unknown, however Khaama Press reports Russia will provide Afghanistan with both the weapons and training. This comes as further reports say First Vice President, Gen. Abdul Rashid Dostum has requested military assistance from Moscow.

Sputnik International reports the agreement is part of a longer process and that Russian support for Afghanistan will continue.

Take this piece with a 1/4 teaspoon of salt, since Sputnik is a Russian propaganda outlet. The part about the Mi-35 Hinds (which are evolved versions of the Mi-24) is likely real and frankly is a good thing. For all of Russia’s bad actions of late, the M-35 is probably the gunship best suited to Afghan needs and Afghanistan does need gunship helos.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:14:48am

re: #217 blueraven

So whatever happened on that case of the officer near Chicago? Last I heard they had no suspects, and even suicide was mentioned as a possibility.

It’s still unsolved.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:18:24am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

I recall seeing somewhere that Amazon was paying USPS to deliver stuff on Sundays in certain areas.

That’s a service the US post office does now, delivering packages on Sunday.

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lizardofid  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:19:48am

re: #218 jaunte

They apparently are saying that if he didn’t move his arms into position to be easily cuffed, instead of just letting them hang passively to his sides, that constitutes “resisting” arrest, and he should be tased. After which they have to reach down and put his arms in position to be cuffed anyway.

I would very much like to see city’s attorney have to argue that in front of a jury. I dare say they would be unable to produce a written policy to support their case.

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:20:05am

re: #186 ObserverArt

Can you be a Groot if you have no idea what a Groot is?

Part 2 - Am I less a human because I do not know?

: )

I am Groot! Compilation - Guardians of The Galaxy Movie

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:21:21am

re: #15 teleskiguy

Great moments in RWNJ Twitter idiocy.

If the Big Bang is true then why did the Nukes dropped on Japan not produce a completely new city in both instances. Bangs don’t create.

A tiny mind trying to make God fit inside.

Is it the fact that I’m an atheist that makes it easier for me to imagine that if a God existed, it would actually be able to do things beyond my comprehension? I think the answer is I don’t need God to fit my agenda so I don’t need him to be a particular thing.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:21:57am

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

It wasn’t just one cop, it was two and one of them was in the Chicago metro area, which made it even more visible. There’s not been a large increase in police deaths this year, but the “thrill kill” nature of a handful of murders of police officers started the “War on Cops” meme. What those murders really are is psychopaths making war on the world.

Except the death of the cop outside Chicago has been reported as a possible suicide and a case of someone allegedly shooting at a police vehicle in Massachusetts was revealed to be a hoax perpetrated by the officer.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:23:54am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

Except the death of the cop outside Chicago has been reported as a possible suicide and a case of someone allegedly shooting at a police vehicle in Massachusetts was revealed to be a hoax perpetrated by the officer.

That was an angle, yes, but the manhunt for suspects got far more media attention than did the “possible suicide” report.

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Lidane  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:37:24am
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WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:38:53am

re: #227 Lidane

Where’d that come from? What was the discussion?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:43:15am

LOS ANGELES — Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler is asking Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to stop using the power ballad “Dream On” at campaign events.

Attorneys for Tyler sent a second cease-and-desist letter to Trump’s campaign committee on Saturday.

The letter says that Trump does “not have our client’s permission to use ‘Dream On’” or any of Tyler’s other songs and that it “gives the false impression that he is connected with or endorses Mr. Trump’s presidential bid.”

Tyler, who is a registered Republican, attended the GOP contenders’ first debate in August.

Attorney Dina LaPolt said in a statement that the letter is not a “political” or “personal issue with Mr. Trump,” but it’s one of permission and copyright.

Representatives for Trump did not immediately respond to request for comment.

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b_sharp  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:43:21am

Tomorrow is Canada’s Thanksgiving.

I’m most thankful to be living in a country where guns are not worshiped and that we are still less culturally polarized than the US.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:44:33am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe Aerosmith isn’t as bad as I thought.

Their music still sucks though.

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Lidane  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:46:04am

Your Republican front runner:

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Timothy Watson  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:48:00am

re: #232 Lidane

Your Republican front runner:

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Cue another round of “Is Trump a deep-cover liberal”?

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Lidane  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:48:22am

re: #228 WhatEVs

Where’d that come from? What was the discussion?

I’m guessing that Frum is riffing on the Freedom Caucus nitwits since his whole feed right now is about the race for Speaker.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:49:15am

If gun-fucking memes actually happened in real life==>

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WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:51:30am

re: #234 Lidane

I’m guessing that Frum is riffing on the Freedom Caucus nitwits since his whole feed right now is about the race for Speaker.

Still makes no you. But…it’s Frum. ‘Nuff said.

Edit: it still makes no sense. Ugh. IPhone fingers.

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Varek Raith  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:51:36am

Hello.

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Jenner7  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:52:08am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:53:01am

re: #238 Jenner7

It’s always the timing.

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Lidane  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:56:00am

re: #238 Jenner7

Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that a Benghazi “investigation” in 2015 is politically motivated and targeted at Hillary Clinton.

I don’t know why the GOP keep pretending that it’s not.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:56:02am

re: #239 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It’s always the timing.

“It’s too soon to politicize the Benghazi investigation.”

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:56:11am

re: #238 Jenner7

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Well sure they reject it, it doesn’t fit the narrative they have scripted and it also doesn’t help to have someone come in and expose what they are really doing.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:58:30am

re: #238 Jenner7

“The employee actually was terminated, in part, because he himself manifested improper partiality and animus in his investigative work” against the Obama administration, including Clinton, the statement said.

Committee responds, “No, U!”

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Tigger2  Oct 11, 2015 • 11:59:47am

I think it’s time to have a Congressional hearing on the Congressional hearing.


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