Here’s our second thread to discuss the Democrats’ debate — a very different show than the Republican debates. At the GOP debates, all of the candidates had identical views on every issue. At this debate, there are real differences on real issues. It’s refreshing.
re: #1 freetoken
Not as good. It is not a trainwreck.
Sanders proposes $15 an hour and free college for all.
re: #3 freetoken
I doubt Webb can get much farther.
He fucked up the BLM thing as bad as he could. I’m not sure he could dig any deeper.
This is such a breath of fresh air. Real issue discussion. This is a debate (shitty format) where they are arguing at each other over real things.
re: #1 freetoken
I wonder what the ratings will be like.
http://t.co/r4cPwPGphF’s live stream of #DemDebate is approaching 800,000 concurrent viewers, per spokesman @mdornic. TV #’s come in Wed PM
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) October 14, 2015
re: #2 The War TARDIS
As noted, Webb’s definitely trying to be a trainwreck.
Hillary promoting the team.
senator sanders, presnobama has not solved all possible problems - how can you imagine continuing without utter despair?
O’Malley trying to ride on Bernie now…
You can get extra vitamin C by taking a kale shot every time Webb complains about Clinton speaking for more than 13 seconds #DemDebate
— Kale (@daily_kale) October 14, 2015
Anderson Cooper, issue of the man who was the richest man in the country in his time, mentions that Bill and Hillary are part of the 1%.
Nobody in the Black Lives Matter movement is arguing that other lives don’t. The question they are raising is whether black lives also do.
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) October 14, 2015
For the moment I like Clinton.
But I would be willing support O’Malley and Sanders.
re: #4 Brian J.
And glitter-farting unicorns, to boot.
Almost everyone on these kind of stages, including the TV hosts, producers, etc., are part of the “1%”.
re: #15 StephenMeansMe
And glitter-farting unicorns, to boot.
My unicorn farts perfectly cooked trilobites covered in garlic butter.
“hey guys, how’s it going” pic.twitter.com/fVlYsv13C0
— Caitlin Kelly (@atotalmonet) October 14, 2015
I’ve heard Student Loans are the next problem.
Charming:
I trust @BernieSanders with my tax dollars like I trust a North Korean chef with my labrador! #DemDebate
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) October 14, 2015
Hillary recognizes that Glass-Steagall restoration wouldn’t stop the risk in the shadow banking system that is the more likely source of the next financial crisis.
Find me any Republican who can speak on any subject with this level of knowledge.
re: #13 teleskiguy
He’s right, and the jerks complaining about BLM know what he’s saying is right; they’re just making trouble.
Busy doing this and didn’t realize there was a new pager…
For you Charles…Dewey Defeats Truman!
Dewey Defeats Truman!Click for biggie…
I trust @BernieSanders with my tax dollars like I trust a North Korean chef with my labrador! #DemDebate
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) October 14, 2015
Holy fuck. Did you just make a racist Koreans might eat my dog joke? Are you fucking kidding me? https://t.co/1mLZSCS2KG
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 14, 2015
Jim Webb flopping like … #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/UWua2ixGOt
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) October 14, 2015
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
“It’s not racist because North Koreans don’t even have dogs to eat!” /s
re: #22 Lidane
Charming:
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You’d think Huckabee would shy away from dog-killing jokes.
re: #18 Aunty Entity Dragon
My unicorn farts perfectly cooked trilobites covered in garlic butter.
I like my trilobites with pineapple and Canadian bacon.
Getting the debate high points via LGF, and waiting to snipe an Ebay auction. Yea, I’m one of those jerkheads that come in with 5 seconds to go and make 1 bid, win or lose.
RBS
Clinton and Sanders are almost too smart for the audience on this issue.
re: #28 goddamnedfrank
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In addition to being funny, that is a mesmerizing and beautiful picture.
re: #33 Reality Based Steve
I like my trilobites with pineapple and Canadian bacon.
Getting the debate high points via LGF, and waiting to snipe an Ebay auction. Yea, I’m one of those jerkheads that come in with 5 seconds to go and make 1 bid, win or lose.
RBS
I hate you. ;)
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
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I’d trust @GovMikeHuckabee as President like I’d trust @JoshDuggar as babysitter. #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/R7nFSMVnYR
— Joe Keene (@joekeene) October 14, 2015
Following the Democratic debate through @realDonaldTrump tweets is a truly surreal experience. https://t.co/4NxfxvkxSm
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) October 14, 2015
“@XGDesignsNYC: Yada yada…It’s a bore fest… Best part of this is Trumps tweets! @realDonaldTrump #DemDebate” Thanks.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2015
Our biggest threat? Gun-humping theocratic American members of Congress.
re: #34 Brian J.
Clinton and Sanders are almost too smart for the audience on this issue.
President Stevenson was like that.
Hillary: “Pres. Obama and I crashed a meeting with the Chinese!” haha wut
re: #33 Reality Based Steve
I like my trilobites with pineapple and Canadian bacon.
Getting the debate high points via LGF, and waiting to snipe an Ebay auction. Yea, I’m one of those jerkheads that come in with 5 seconds to go and make 1 bid, win or lose.
RBS
re: #33 Reality Based Steve
I like my trilobites with pineapple and Canadian bacon.
Getting the debate high points via LGF, and waiting to snipe an Ebay auction. Yea, I’m one of those jerkheads that come in with 5 seconds to go and make 1 bid, win or lose.
RBS
What I do is to set a snipe with eSnipe, then ignore the auction till I get an email telling me I won, or I lost.
.@BernieSanders PM Thatcher was right, liberals would rather the poor were poorer so long as the rich were less rich https://t.co/24Q0WDXUoz
— Dr. Rand Paul (@RandPaul) October 14, 2015
re: #41 Decatur Deb
Well, there goes my optimism.
And here’s another buzzkill- Webb’s got more lines.
Hillary: One time, I kicked China’s ass with my bestie, PRESIDENT OBAMA.
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) October 14, 2015
re: #46 The Vicious Babushka
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Really Rand? Because Bernie’s education plan doesn’t allow people to gain more wealth.
I think Webb has spent more time complaining about the rules than his positions
Oh, Lincoln, this is just painful. “I only just got there! My dad died! Locusts!”
good way to kill your candidacy, lincoln
geesh
Thatcher who had a regressive tax, great role model Rand has,
re: #52 Zamb
I think Webb has spent more time complaining about the rules than his positions
Why should 1% Webb get equal time with 45% Clinton?
Was I mistaken in hearing some disgruntled rumblings from the crowd at Chaffee?
Webb is for sure the person who thinks your piece of lasagna is bigger than his. #DemDebate
— Maureen Johnson (@maureenjohnson) October 14, 2015
Chafee’s smile subroutine is malfunctioning.
OK, this guy sounds like a Dumbass. I voted on something…my dad died (sorry)…I was new. Bad. Really bad.
re: #64 It’s on his hat!
Huh? You can’t program a block of granite.
They just made me a Senator! I didn’t know what was going on! Gimmie a break!
Hillary laughing at Jim Webb complaining about time. pic.twitter.com/t9aufxSbUX
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 14, 2015
No misogyny here. Nope. https://t.co/PpuCpwmTYd
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 14, 2015
Bernie: I am gonna tax the FUCK out of Donald Trump. It’s gonna be YOOOOGE.
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) October 14, 2015
Jesus even the substance of the debate sounds like a commercial.
How is it possible that I’ve been watching this for an hour and a half when I only feel a month older? #DemDebate
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) October 14, 2015
re: #68 Charles Johnson
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Original Ben, did you come up with that one all by yourself?
If Donald Trump were in this debate he’d have unzipped and wagged his junk by now.
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) October 14, 2015
Bernie’s plan on college payment has a fatal flaw.
They’re all talking about “On day one I will..”
If elected, Lincoln Chaffee can’t make any decisions until his 2nd day in office. #DemDebate
— Laurie Kilmartin (@anylaurie16) October 14, 2015
Jim Webb is clearly not amused by the debate rules. pic.twitter.com/prBxO4pmID
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) October 14, 2015
The problem with sin taxes is this - if one can actually curb the sinning, then the revenue stream will evaporate.
Increasing Social Security for lower income people without giving the Trumps a yuuger check sounds good to me, but I am an accountant so there’s a professional interest.
This is a real debate. So I’m going to bed. Need more spitballs!
I would look forward to this as well.
“@i_am__tyler: I can’t wait for @realDonaldTrump to debate one of these clowns! All are so weak!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2015
re: #74 freetoken
Hillary and Bernie need a question about the relentless commercialization of education… not going to stop even if college tuition is socialized…
Know that look on your dog’s face when he sees you’re wrapping a pill in cheese? That’s Jim Webb tonight. #DemDebate
— Lani Rosales (@laniar) October 14, 2015
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
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Well hell after I watched an hour and a half the Republican Debates I felt like I was in Kindergarten again.
re: #75 teleskiguy
Isn’t the real answer, “Give a speech, shake a crapload of hands, wave bye-bye to the Obamas, and go to half a dozen Inauguration Balls before falling into bed and not sleeping at all well”?
Debbie Schultz wants fewer of these debates again, why?
re: #85 Major Tom
We need someone for the next generation on the ticket. I like the Castro Brothers.
re: #87 b.d.
Maybe she didn’t think she could stop Webb and Chaffee from showing up?
re: #89 The War TARDIS
I want hard cynical experience. I know the enemy.
O’Malley is right. Immigration needs to be increased.
Though with more refugees.
re: #85 Major Tom
Clinton/Sanders? Is that a pipe dream?
Common wisdom says that’s bad regional reach.
Just my opinion on a drive-by. Was so happy after hearing everyone’s intro. Wow, we have wonderful people running.
At this point, my quick take:
I guess you could expect it, but I’m already tired of the ‘jump on Clinton’ crap.
Hillary has worked her policies out to a level of detail that I really appreciate, and she has represented that well. Her knowledge of how to deal with adversity and complexity is well above the others, IMO.
I love most of Bernie’s message, but he started out badly, IMO, angry and fumbling his words a bit. He does not meet what I think we need in a President. Maybe a cabinet position?
Webb wants to start a war with China as best I can tell. And the whining about how much time he is not getting is childish.
O’Malley, too many long stories. Baltimore. Sorry, you’re not selling it.
Can’t Chaffee find some job that suits him? He seems like a good, smart guy.
re: #87 b.d.
Debbie Schultz wants fewer of these debates again, why?
You know, with today’s media and the social media of individuals on the ‘net, I’m on the fence trying to decide if this is a bad thing.
(Thinking)
Webb increasingly reminds me of Edgar, the cockroach-in-a-man-suit villain from MiB.
Hillary was right on regarding subsidies for undocumented people. Buy in, absolutely. But not subsidized.
re: #90 StephenMeansMe
Maybe she didn’t think she could stop Webb and Chaffee from showing up?
Tell Webb it is a gun free zone and tell Lincoln that his answer tonight got him voted off the island.
Problems solved.
re: #43 WhatEVs
re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White
What I do is to set a snipe with eSnipe, then ignore the auction till I get an email telling me I won, or I lost.
I like Auction Magic since it has the best bidding logic for chaining multiple items. For an online one, I’m doing a trial of ezsniper Tonight I’m just doing it old school, counting the seconds and firing off the bid…. (Which I just won…. Yea Me!!!)
RBS
re: #87 b.d.
Because there really isn’t much demand for these debates. Polling indicates that most Democrats don’t want more debates, and more would rather see fewer debates than an increase.
Webb’s speaking again. Crap.
re: #93 Decatur Deb
What does it say about a woman on the ticket?
re: #85 Major Tom
Clinton/Sanders? Is that a pipe dream?
There is just no chance in the world Hillary is going to run with someone older than her, well to her left and from a tiny solidly blue state.
I have to admit, Jim Webb is a majestic looking candidate. #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/k65MCZOtN7
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) October 14, 2015
re: #94 Weet
There is a strong “trap” feel to this whole debate.
More so than the GOP gatherings, probably because of fewer people on stage. Or maybe Anderson and his producers like the more confrontational approach.
re: #93 Decatur Deb
Common wisdom says that’s bad regional reach.
Yeah, but is the south more likely to vote for her because of a VP candidate? I don’t think that’s as important a consideration as it used to be. Tying up the swing states is far more critical.
re: #95 ObserverArt
Because she is an idiot who needs to resign.
re: #97 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
how about clinton/o’malley?
Worked last time we went with someone from a blue state but I still like Castro.
U MAD DANA
Candidates hostile to idea of people managing their money instead of gov’t under auspice of social security. #DemDebate
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) October 14, 2015
Hahahaha O’Malley calling Trump a carnival barker and immigrant-hater. Zing!
re: #100 Reality Based Steve
I like Auction Magic since it has the best bidding logic for chaining multiple items. For an online one, I’m doing a trial of ezsniper Tonight I’m just doing it old school, counting the seconds and firing off the bid…. (Which I just won…. Yea Me!!!)
RBS
I’m way too lazy and impatient to do it longhand.
“Donald Trump, that carnival barker in the Republican Party.” Well said, Martin.
Webb just lost the debate with that immigration answer as far as the Republicans go.
re: #97 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
how about clinton/o’malley?
I can’t get past the feeling that O’Malley is running for VP.
re: #105 freetoken
There is a strong “trap” feel to this whole debate.
More so than the GOP gatherings, probably because of fewer people on stage. Or maybe Anderson and his producers like the more confrontational approach.
WE A NATION OF TRAP LORDS ACTUALLY
— Wu-Tang Financial (@Wu_Tang_Finance) October 14, 2015
Uh oh…here come the angry “O’Malley is a total loser!” tweets from The Donald™TRUMP®
carnival barker
mild compared to what he deserves
@realDonaldTrump ISIS
— Curt Schilling (@gehrig38) October 14, 2015
This debate has way more hostile questions than what I’ve hear on the other side.
re: #108 HappyWarrior
Worked last time we went with someone from a blue state but I still like Castro.
Totally with you there.
re: #114 Barefoot Grin
I can’t get past the feeling that O’Malley is running for VP.
He was an early backer of hers in 2008.
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
U MAD DANA
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GOP hates that they can’t con the money out of social security the way they can con it out of people who think they’re “investing” it.
re: #114 Barefoot Grin
I can’t get past the feeling that O’Malley is running for VP.
The Democrats need an African-American or Hispanic on the ticket. They are too important a part of our coalition to go back to the era of all-white tickets.
So, The Donald™ will say Black Lives Matter at his next Klan Rally campaign event?
Sanders said only black lives matter - wow! Hillary did not answer question!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2015
Stick your head in first
I’m going to go stick my leg in a wood chipper. I need a distraction from this painful debate.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) October 14, 2015
Hillary’s out of luck; Chafee’s trying to defend her.
re: #104 goddamnedfrank
WEBB: “Well, well. Someone finally asked me a question! Saints be praised! It’s a miracle! I’m so.. COOPER: And that’s your time. #DemDebate
— Mike Polk Jr. (@mikepolkjr) October 14, 2015
re: #120 Amory Blaine
This debate has way more hostile questions than what I’ve hear on the other side.
Yeah, I noticed that. Really different tenor to the questions. Does Trump actully intimidate CNN now?
re: #129 HappyWarrior
Don’t wish this racist doofus on us baseball fans.
re: #106 William Lewis
Yeah, but is the south more likely to vote for her because of a VP candidate? I don’t think that’s as important a consideration as it used to be. Tying up the swing states is far more critical.
The confederate heartland isn’t voting for any Dem. Only Florida and Ohio count.
re: #126 The Vicious Babushka
I’m going to go stick my leg in a wood chipper. I need a distraction from this painful debate.
facts and logic are painful for republicans
If Don Lemon can only ask about black people and Juan Carlos Lopez can only ask about Hispanics, Wolf Blitzer only gets to ask about wolves.
— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) October 14, 2015
re: #100 Reality Based Steve
I like Auction Magic since it has the best bidding logic for chaining multiple items. For an online one, I’m doing a trial of ezsniper Tonight I’m just doing it old school, counting the seconds and firing off the bid…. (Which I just won…. Yea Me!!!)
RBS
I have learned to avoid watching the auctions end. I allowed myself to get bid up to $110 on a watch I shouldn’t have paid more than $90 for.
re: #131 Brian J.
Don’t wish this racist doofus on us baseball fans.
Fair enough. I’m a fan myself. He’s such an ass.
re: #107 The War TARDIS
Because she is an idiot who needs to resign.
My comment has nothing to do with “her.” But I am not a big fan of DWS.
re: #134 bratwurst
If Don Lemon can only ask about black people and Juan Carlos Lopez can only ask about Hispanics, Wolf Blitzer only gets to ask about wolves.
did anderson cooper get his haircut so that he can serve in the kaiser’s army?
The debates should all be on PBS. I am stuck in a house with no cable TV and an iPad, and cnn constantly crashes.
I am glad Bernie hasn’t made any huge mistakes. I do believe he is the only person up there who still has a day job, so I’m sure his prep time was limited.
Yeah, I am old.
re: #132 Decatur Deb
North Carolina and Georgia both were decided by single digits, and even Mississippi and South Carolina were decided by just about 10 points.
“Is Edward Snowden a hero?” What the hell kind of question is that, CNN?
Snowden committed treason.
He needs to be punished.
Hillary gave the best answer on Snowden.
Webb said something intelligent. You leave that to the justice system.
Hillary and O’Malley has the correct answer about Snowden.
What is wrong with a threepeat of an Obama administration?
re: #142 The War TARDIS
Snowden committed treason.
He needs to be punished.
Treason has a very specific constitutional definition. That is not what Snowden is accused of. In fact, it is very, very difficult to prosecute treason.
re: #149 rhuarc
Too hard to manufacture scandal?
re: #129 HappyWarrior
Classy Curt. Stick to baseball fuckwad.
And tomorrow he’ll be on the sports shows complaining that people were pissed at his comments. He can say it, but he cannot take it. Typical Winger.
Sign me up for a 3rd term of Obama right here and now
Why wouldn’t you be Obama’s third term? Clinton: “I think that’s pretty obvious.”
I remember a lot of argument about that 8 years ago.
re: #152 ObserverArt
And tomorrow he’ll be on the sports shows complaining that people were pissed at his comments. He can say it, but hey cannot take it. Typical Winger.
Precisely.
i think next time we need a titanium steel steagall since a glass steagall was too easy to break
re: #153 b.d.
Sign me up for a 3rd term of Obama right here and now
Fortunately, many wingnuts assure me the President will cancel the election and serve a third term.//
Clickbaity answer from Bernie. Platitudinous nonsense.
Oh man. Glenn @ggreenwald is really not going to like that last segment
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 14, 2015
re: #140 Brian J.
North Carolina and Georgia both were decided by single digits, and even Mississippi and South Carolina were decided by just about 10 points.
The likely payback in electors there isn’t great enough to pander usefully. VP has to help regionally, probably in the West.
Webb just rambles on. He really belongs on the GOP stage.
re: #150 Aunty Entity Dragon
Treason has a very specific constitutional definition. That is not what Snowden is accused of. In fact, it is very, very difficult to prosecute treason.
Agree with this. I’m no Snowden fan.
Snowden dudebros have a sad:
Hillary ranting against Snowden. Enough, Hill. Go join the Republican candidates. #DemDebate
— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) October 14, 2015
Was Snowden’s whistleblowing worse than your support of Iraq War, Hillary? #OraPolitics #DemDebate
— Jesse Ventura (@GovJVentura) October 14, 2015
i think the 3rd term for obama should be this time with more balls
re: #156 Major Tom
She kinda blew that question
She was a little too excited to play to the crowd on the first female president statement.
re: #158 Big Beautiful Door
Fortunately, many wingnuts assure me the President will cancel the election and serve a third term.//
I keep forgetting that they claim that he is a lazy golfing goof off and simultaneously plotting to take over the presidency for life.
//
Most of the big Western states are either already Democratic (CA, WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, HI) or hopelessly Republican (UT, ID, WY). Not really enough Western swing states to be worth the gamble.
re: #162 Decatur Deb
The likely payback in electors there isn’t great enough to pander usefully. VP has to help regionally, probably in the West.
IMO the balance we need is a VP who represents the minority Americans.
Dear Bernie:
Most Americans don’t care. If they did, they would have voted already.
Yours Truly,
FT
re: #173 Big Beautiful Door
IMO the balance we need is a VP who represents the minority Americans.
Castro. Dems would be unstoppable.
Who told Chafee it was a good idea for him to run?
re: #167 Lidane
Snowden dudebros have a sad:
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What Hillary actually said is Snowden should have taken the whistle blower route instead of stealing info & leaving the country.
Stupids!
re: #163 The Vicious Babushka
Webb just rambles on. He really belongs on the GOP stage.
And Chafee would like to ramble on, but he can’t. Stage fright?
re: #172 Brian J.
Most of the big Western states are either already Democratic (CA, WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, HI) or hopelessly Republican (UT, ID, WY). Not really enough Western swing states to be worth the gamble.
Colorado is highly polarized on largely urban/ski resort - rural grounds. I’d call Colorado more purple than anything.
re: #173 Big Beautiful Door
IMO the balance we need is a VP who represents the minority Americans.
Someone intelligent for VP?
re: #176 jaunte
Who told Chafee it was a good idea for him to run?
I dunno. I remember how people were laughing at him for changing parties every couple of months it seemed.
re: #176 jaunte
Who told Chafee it was a good idea for him to run?
If he was a Republican still, it would’ve been God, who loves to prank wingnuts into thinking he wants them, to be president.
re: #173 Big Beautiful Door
IMO the balance we need is a VP who represents the minority Americans.
I don’t think an atheist is in the cards.
re: #173 Big Beautiful Door
IMO the balance we need is a VP who represents the minority Americans.
yes - we need to find somebody with intelligence and an education
Bernie won’t come fer they’re gunz so he might not scare southerners as much. But he seems to care about minorities and education too much, so I guess the gun thing won’t matter. Not my favorite slice of the electorate.
re: #179 teleskiguy
Colorado elected a Democratic governor and nearly a trifecta (missed by one state senate seat, I think) last year. Seems pretty true blue.
re: #182 freetoken
America should have free Mountain Dew.
New berry lime Mountain Dew is pretty good…
re: #182 freetoken
America should have free Mountain Dew.
Hot Dogs Corn Dogs Triple Bacon Cheeseburgers Deep Fried Butter Dipped In Pork Fat Cheese Whiz Mayonnaise BBQ Mozzarella Patty Melt!
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 5, 2014
re: #172 Brian J.
Most of the big Western states are either already Democratic (CA, WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, HI) or hopelessly Republican (UT, ID, WY). Not really enough Western swing states to be worth the gamble.
Texas, and Hispanic voters there and FL.
re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader
Does it have electrolytes?
All of them that you need. Your plants need them too.
re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader
Does it have electrolytes?
Brawndo has electrolytes. Free Brawndo for everyone!
re: #172 Brian J.
Most of the big Western states are either already Democratic (CA, WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, HI) or hopelessly Republican (UT, ID, WY). Not really enough Western swing states to be worth the gamble.
I’d call Nevada purple because the rural areas are very conservative.
“We are in the final block of this debate.”
Where were the candidates going to escape to, Anderson?
Since when are a husband and wife a “dynasty”?
What would I do without rhetorical questions?
re: #197 Brian J.
“We are in the final block of this debate.”
Where were the candidates going to escape to, Anderson?
Since when are a husband and wife a “dynasty”?
What would I do without rhetorical questions?
That was a completely bogus question.
“It takes me a little longer.” Was that a pee joke?
Martin, whose fault is the gridlock? Hint: it’s the party that can’t elect a House speaker with a majority of 59.
re: #190 Aunty Entity Dragon
New berry lime Mountain Dew is pretty good…
There’s a new flavor of Mountain Dew? Crap, I gotta get back down to the gas station and check it out. I’m behind.
re: #197 Brian J.
“We are in the final block of this debate.”
Where were the candidates going to escape to, Anderson?
Since when are a husband and wife a “dynasty”?
What would I do without rhetorical questions?
Since their last name was Clinton.
re: #205 Belafon
Since their last name was Clinton.
But yet a father and son are not a dynasty, oh, no.
Ah, well, my first experiment with the new to me bread machine is … interesting. I didn’t have any actual bread flour, just all purpose and it appears to not have enough gluten as the top collapsed down into itself and it’s rather a heavy loaf for white bread. Tastes ok so the basic idea is fine, I just need to invest in some bread flour on payday.
re: #189 Brian J.
Colorado elected a Democratic governor and nearly a trifecta (missed by one state senate seat, I think) last year. Seems pretty true blue.
Republicans have control of the State house and we elected Cory Gardner to the Senate in 2014. Republicans control four of our seven congressional districts in the House. The governor’s race in 2014 was 49.3% Dem to 45.95% Repub. Don’t know what you’re talking about, dude.
re: #201 It’s on his hat!
There is a bucket… Nevermind.
Clinton: “We cannot afford a Republican to succeed Barack Obama as President of the United States.” THIS.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 14, 2015
There are 100,000 people attending Sanders house parties. And I think most of them are very disappointed in you, Bernie.
“Some of the candidates have tried marijuana on this stage in the past 45 minutes. We’re looking at you, Chafee.”
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) October 14, 2015
re: #213 Brian J.
There are 100,000 people attending Sanders house parties. And I think most of them are very disappointed in you, Bernie.
He had a bad start but his fans are not going to be unhappy with most of his performance tonight.
re: #209 teleskiguy
How much worse could things get than last year? And yet the Republicans still couldn’t win the governorship or the statewide vote.
But we’re getting away from the point. O’Malley actually distinguishes himself on renewable energy.
Well, uh, how’r we gonna solve, um, when i was in the Senate, um
One thing has become crystal clear as a result of this debate to me.
There is a reason that Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are the two front-runners.
Webb is just too damn unlikable to me.
O’Malley has the personality of a block of granite.
Chafee just looks lost up there.
re: #219 StephenMeansMe
CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I don’t want to do any heav lifting so imma gonna punt an’ say it has to be international so we don’t ever do anything at all.
Clinton: “we were literally hunting for the Chinese.”
Hillary’s actually explaining that crashing the Chinese thing. And it’s actually important- the Copenhagen agreement that has led to much more.
The Berniebots have gotten to Drudge:
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE FIRST DEM DEBATE ‘16?
SANDERS 57.28% (33,594 votes)
WEBB 26.91% (15,782 votes)
O’MALLEY 7.18% (4,210 votes)
CLINTON 4.4% (2,583 votes)
CHAFEE 4.22% (2,477 votes)
Total Votes: 58,646
Breitbart clown @NolteNC, classy as always. pic.twitter.com/oPf4u7Pz9f
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 14, 2015
re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White
I have learned to avoid watching the auctions end. I allowed myself to get bid up to $110 on a watch I shouldn’t have paid more than $90 for.
I feel your pain. I’ve learned that on both online and real-world auctions, figure what I’m willing to pay, bid to that amount, and then call it done, win or lose. That damn “Just 1 more bid” bit me a few times before I learned.
I’d probably be different if it was truly a “once in a lifetime” object, but there is nothing I’ve every bought that fell into that category. Probably the closest I’ve gotten to breaking my rule was an old canon 70-210 f4.0 lens (not “L” series, but very good glass). I lost a few before finally getting one at the price I wanted.
My worst auction experience was getting 3 cases of Jim Beam “Commemorative” bottles at 5 bucks a bottle at a local auction house. Knew that SOME JB bottles are very collectible, had no time to do any research, and bid pretty much flying blind. Turns out that the ones I bought are selling for about 5 bucks each online. :) Gave a few to friends for “Man Cave Decorations” and the rest went into the dumpster after a year of sitting around taking up space. (Imagine my neighbors must have thought I had a serious drinking problem)
RBS
Carly Fiorina doesn’t understand California, or business, or family leave. Or anything else. Some people need to have this explained to them.
“We should not be paralyzed by the Republicans and their constant refrain.”
re: #230 Charles Johnson
Dude, he has got a real stick up his ass. Maybe him and Webb hang out too much.
Government is there to tackle the “hard stuff” Dana. Like every other major country.
re: #235 WhatEVs
Oh, so that is Dana Bash.
re: #231 The War TARDIS
Not cool with the “blonde” word in this comment. It’s sexist. Would you say “Look at that dumb blonde hack” to a blonde-haired male moderator?
re: #238 teleskiguy
True. That can be a problem.
re: #238 teleskiguy
Not cool with the “blonde” word in this comment. It’s sexist. Would you say “Look at that dumb blonde hack” to a blonde-haired male moderator?
I just might, but I’m a little different from most people.
re: #230 Charles Johnson
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As opposed to Republicans who say Reagan Reagsn all the time.
re: #238 teleskiguy
Not cool with the “blonde” word in this comment. It’s sexist. Would you say “Look at that dumb blonde hack” to a blonde-haired male moderator?
Leave Chris Matthews alone!
re: #238 teleskiguy
Not cool with the “blonde” word in this comment. It’s sexist. Would you say “Look at that dumb blonde hack” to a blonde-haired male moderator?
I have. Stupid is still stupid.
re: #243 HappyWarrior
As opposed to Republicans who say Reagan Reagsn all the time.
Or, if talking to/about Hillary, BENGHAZI.
Sanders manages to tie a question about recreational marijuana back to Wall Street.
She just blew that one. Not a study in courage.
re: #243 HappyWarrior
As opposed to Republicans who say Reagan Reagsn all the time.
It’s a Republican law. Punishable by death (of a GOP career).
re: #241 thedopefishlives
I would too. I was using a descriptor.
I should have thought about my wording though.
Hillary’s not going as far as I’d like on marijuana, seeking more information from the legalizing states before doing anything on a national basis, but is clearly calling for decriminalization.
Moderation is HARD.
re: #247 It’s on his hat!
Sanders manages to tie a question about recreational marijuana back to Wall Street.
My thought exactly. But he did it well.
re: #247 It’s on his hat!
Sanders manages to tie a question about recreational marijuana back to Wall Street.
Convoluted, but it is true that the big distillers and brewers are the most implacable foes to legal pot.
re: #232 Reality Based Steve
I feel your pain. I’ve learned that on both online and real-world auctions, figure what I’m willing to pay, bid to that amount, and then call it done, win or lose. That damn “Just 1 more bid” bit me a few times before I learned.
RBS
Yeah, I’m pretty boring in my bidding. I put in a maximum bid of what I’m willing to pay and just walk away until it is over. I’ve gotten some great deals, and lost some stuff that was probably worth more than I wanted to pay for it-but that is the point: what it was worth to me.
I think Hillary has the appropriate federal position, going for complete national legalization would still waste too much political capital as of 2016.
re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon
Convoluted, but it is true that the big distillers and brewers are the most implacable foes to legal pot.
I always wondered why big tobacco didn’t get on the pot bandwagon years ago when they still had control of their industry.
re: #255 StephenMeansMe
It’s the compromising approach, which if anything works that’s probably the only way.
re: #254 calochortus
Yeah, I’m pretty boring in my bidding. I put in a maximum bid of what I’m willing to pay and just walk away until it is over. I’ve gotten some great deals, and lost some stuff that was probably worth more than I wanted to pay for it-but that is the point: what it was worth to me.
I had that happen with some GW wargame stuff. I rarely look at auction closings now. If I lose it, I find another later.
re: #251 Brian J.
Hillary’s not going as far as I’d like on marijuana, seeking more information from the legalizing states before doing anything on a national basis, but is clearly calling for decriminalization.
Moderation is HARD.
Sounds like some presidential candidates answer on gay marriage in 2007/2008.
re: #252 WhatEVs
My thought exactly. But he did it well.
Oh, I agree, he did it smoothly. I just wish I’d hear more of an answer to the actual question.
Hillary didn’t impress me with the cannabis question. Real wishy-washy. Methinks she doesn’t know a whole lot about what is actually going on in states with legal cannabis.
re: #262 teleskiguy
Hillary didn’t impress me with the cannabis question. Real wishy-washy. Methinks she doesn’t know a whole lot about what is actually going on in states with legal cannabis.
This:
#Hillary very careful on marijuana legalization. That was a swing state, general election answer.
— Howard Fineman (@howardfineman) October 14, 2015
Reason #278323 why I never watch cable news: toenail fungus ads
Bernie made a good point. if the voters don’t punish the GOP for being obstructionist, they will just keep on obstructing.
Did Hillary just endorse the recreational use of medical marijuana? #DemDebate
— Harry Shearer (@theharryshearer) October 14, 2015
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
re: #262 teleskiguy
I think it’s pretty reasonable to seek decriminalization without full legalization, until we have firm support from the public.
re: #251 Brian J.
Hillary’s not going as far as I’d like on marijuana, seeking more information from the legalizing states before doing anything on a national basis, but is clearly calling for decriminalization.
Moderation is HARD.
I think that was a political answer. Not a bit unlike Obama on gay marriage. When there is a tipping point in the amount of states voting for it, then I think she will change.
By the way…I am getting hit hard with pro and against Ohio Issue 3 stuff in the mail this week. That’s Ohio’s attempt at marijuana legalization. Local political program on Sunday said the polls are showing pretty string support. We shall see.
re: #251 Brian J.
Hillary’s not going as far as I’d like on marijuana, seeking more information from the legalizing states before doing anything on a national basis, but is clearly calling for decriminalization.
Moderation is HARD.
Yeah, but you have to remember not all Dem’s are in support of legalizing marijuana so it’s a good choice to be kind of moderate on that issue. .
Dammit. Stream just died on me. From what I saw, CNN’s content servers got absolutely hammered tonight.
re: #262 teleskiguy
“Stop arresting and jailing people” seems like all you need, really. Recreational legalization will follow naturally… aside from the War on Drugs, it’s not the same level as gay marriage.
re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
Nothing on Planned Parenthood at all that I’ve heard so far. Surprising, but yet not.
Corrected, because I have tuned out some of this…
re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
Hillary mentioned it.
This is the argument for legalization of cannabis. Once people find out you can make money, all bets are off. https://t.co/Pagd1QCVbP
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 12, 2015
#Colorado milestone: $100 million in monthly #marijuana sales. Details: http://t.co/4G4mTHR8x5 by @ehernandez pic.twitter.com/mUU5ZaidOX
— The Cannabist (@cannabist) October 12, 2015
oh, and the only person to bring up women’s reproductive rights is the woman on stage.
— veroniskellyton mars (@catagator) October 14, 2015
so anyone suggesting her mentioning that she’s female as why she’s change fails to see the importance of that very thing.
— veroniskellyton mars (@catagator) October 14, 2015
Folks whose prospects when down the drain tonight.
Webb
Chaffee
Biden
re: #273 It’s on his hat!
“What would you do to reduce the sale of baby parts by Planned Parenthood?” /////
re: #256 William Lewis
I always wondered why big tobacco didn’t get on the pot bandwagon years ago when they still had control of their industry.
They probably still do, but only if it goes nationwide-I’m sure they got brand names and ad campaigns. The thing that will put the kibosh on them is the tobacco advertising ban.
re: #273 It’s on his hat!
Nothing on Planned Parenthood at all. Surprising, but yet not.
It was mentioned.
Please excuse the delay, GotNwes went to bed after putting our last post to bed.
BREAKING, CONFIRMED: Gawker ain’t havin’ none o’ dat sh*t from Chuck Johnson
gawker.com is opposing Chuck C. Johnson’s request for an extension on his homework response to Gawker’s motion to dismiss his libel suit against them.
In his request for an extended response deadline, Johnson’s lawyer stated that Gawker’s lawyers had agreed to a week’s delay, as GotNwes reported earlier.
Perhaps that was before Gawker got wind of Johnson’s futile, 11th-hour attempts to obtain evidence “using clearly improper means,” to quote the motion for denial. [Full text below.]
The judge has yet to rule on this latest wrinkle in this fascinating case of two media giants duking it out miles from either’s home base. If the judge rules in favor of Gawker, Johnson’s libel suit could be dismissed and he’d be liable for all costs, including Gawker’s attorney costs.
Ouch!
Beans and rice, and ramen noodles for a few years to come, sonny.
We can now say with full confidence that watching this debate has made everyone significantly stupider.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 14, 2015
Speak for yourself. https://t.co/lD3k520z8s
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 14, 2015
“Which enemy are you most proud of?” Now that’s a good question.
re: #261 It’s on his hat!
Oh, I agree, he did it smoothly. I just wish I’d hear more of an answer to the actual question.
It’s the format. Answers for the ADHD crowd (and soundbite distributions).
re: #273 It’s on his hat!
Nothing on Planned Parenthood at all. Surprising, but yet not.
They don’t need to mention Planned Parenthood. Everybody that’s taking this debate seriously already know the “Center For Medical Progress” is a fucking fraud.
re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
Hillary brought it up. Nothing from CNN.
Webb: still the kind of jarhead that gives jarheads a bad name.
Surprise? The streaming #’s for this #DemDebate have exceeded the #’s for CNN’s #GOPDebate. My full story: http://t.co/fne9utcUyr
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) October 14, 2015
Webb: “I shot a dude. Shot him dead. Then maybe teabagged his corpse. Maybe.” ////
re: #285 teleskiguy
As Decatur Deb implied above, we need a majority.
re: #290 StephenMeansMe
Webb: “I shot a dude. Shot him dead. Then maybe teabagged his corpse. Maybe.” ////
I was trying to process what he said. WTF????
Chafee: still solid as a rock, fast as a rock, and smart as a rock.
re: #280 Aunty Entity Dragon
It was mentioned.
Yeah, I edited above. I missed it. Kids getting home made this hard to hear for awhile.
re: #282 Charles Johnson
@benshapiro Did straining one of your two brain cells to understand the adults cause it to die? Poor thing.
— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) October 14, 2015
re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
Especially with you know the Republicans making an issue of it.
re: #277 b.d.
Folks whose prospects when down the drain tonight.
Webb
Chaffee
Biden
Good point about Biden. The wonks still think he is going to judge his entrance on how Hillary does in the BENGHAZI hearings.
Webb speaks as though his mouth is full of marshmallows.
Imma work ‘em through dammit and they’re complicated and VIETNAM DAMMIT FUCKING VIETNAM!!!!
re: #282 Charles Johnson
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Yeah because Republican debates are so intellectual. Why even watch the debate Ben when you knew how you were going to feel about it regardless of what happened.
Jim Webb: “And now, Anderson, I give the watch to you.” pic.twitter.com/z4mDVBXCBd
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) October 14, 2015
O’Malley: supporting the team and hoping for a Cabinet post, and there are much worse possible selections.
re: #294 Brian J.
Chafee: still solid as a rock, fast as a rock, and smart as a rock.
But even less personality than a rock. He’s basically just an inanimate object.
re: #303 Brian J.
O’Malley: supporting the team and hoping for a Cabinet post, and there are much worse possible selections.
I think he gets a cabinet post. I don’t see him as VP material.
re: #289 jaunte
Well, I suspect that most of the GOP supporters were watching or streaming Fox, not CNN.
re: #300 Aunty Entity Dragon
Imma work ‘em through dammit and they’re complicated and VIETNAM DAMMIT FUCKING VIETNAM!!!!
The one interesting thing about Webb is he may be the last Vietnam Vet to run for President. Not a single candidate who fought in Vietnam ever won the Presidency.
I like O’Malley so far. This closing bit is good stuff.
re: #274 Big Beautiful Door
Hillary mentioned it.
Damn well too, calling out the “big government” crap from the right. O’Malley is doing a real good job in his closing statement in that regard as well.
re: #298 ObserverArt
Good point about Biden. The wonks still think he is going to judge his entrance on how Hillary does in the BENGHAZI hearings.
Makes sense. Biden is old and his candidacy doesn’t have much rationale unless Clinton becomes severely damaged goods.
re: #309 It’s on his hat!
I like O’Malley so far. This closing bit is good stuff.
I agree. That was a good closing statement.
re: #308 Big Beautiful Door
The one interesting thing about Webb is he may be the last Vietnam Vet to run for President. Not a single candidate who fought in Vietnam ever won the Presidency.
You’re actually probably right about that. Crazy to think it will be 20 years since the last WWII one (Dole) ran.
Hillary tells it like it is, and Bernie tells it like it could be. Both are powerful messages, both are essential.
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 14, 2015
O’Malley running for VP.
Good ties help with that.
re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Things I have noted not discussed yet, at least per the comments: reproductive rights.
Kind of more significant to me than pot, personally.
Thank you
I do like O’Malley quite a bit but there are fair concerns about his record regarding the police but that said, I do like the guy. He was one of the first governors to support SSM.
re: #306 freetoken
I’m just annoyed that my cnn stream is kaput.
Sanders: Uneven performance. You can see why his supporters think they can win, and why they’re probably wrong.
DEBATE WINNER: the puppeteer working Bernie Sanders arms #DemDebate
— Matt Oswalt (@puddinstrip) October 14, 2015
re: #320 jaunte
I’m just annoyed that my cnn stream is kaput.
I’m watching on SlingTV. Its a bit behind the live broadcast and occasionally freezes.
re: #316 teleskiguy
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@GeorgeTakei Great tweet.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) October 14, 2015
Should have mentioned the GOP can’t pick a leader (SOTH) let alone govern. Missed opp Bernie.
I’ve gotten the high points of the debate and the analysis of it here. Think I’ll wait for the “Bad Lip Reading” version of it to watch it.
RBS
Hillary: Played it safe with her closing statement, but the clear winner.
“I love lamp.” -Chafee
— alisonschary (@alisonschary) October 14, 2015
re: #277 b.d.
Folks whose prospects when down the drain tonight.
Webb
Chaffee
Biden
Webb and Chaffee, definitely.
O’Malley might see a slight bump - but not enough to be a major threat to the frontrunners.
I don’t think Biden is hurt too much, because he’s proven that his debate skills are a force to be dealt with when he absolutely destroyed both of the last two Republican VP candidates.
Jim Webb said, “I KILLED A DUDE.” Brother, you’re in the wrong shop for that kind of manhood.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) October 14, 2015
Yeah, Webb would have gotten a standing ovation for his remark on “his favorite enemy” at a Republican gathering.
Debate winners: 1) Hillary 2) Bernie 3) O’Malley 4) The little mascot for toenail fungus cream 5) Webb 6) Everyone but Chafee 7) Chafee
— Dennis Mersereau (@wxdam) October 14, 2015
Quick reaction:
Clinton was impressive and I would consider her the winner. Sanders was uneven but occasionally had very good answers. O’Malley distinguished himself from the also-rans and is well-spoken. Chafee and Webb are duds for different reasons.
I seriously do not get Webb at all. He first quits on the state saying he’s burned out from politics. Fair enough Jim but now you’re running for president. Oh and a lot of people the President included in the Democratic party apparatus that he runs away from in a vain attempt to sound like a “maverick” campaigned for him.
re: #332 teleskiguy
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I kind of like dorky guys like Chafee. didn’t like Webb at all.
The one nice thing I will say about Jim Webb is he put forever away George Allen’s presidential aspirations and for that I thank the man but at the same time it doesn’t mean I want him being a major policymaker in my party of choice.
re: #329 freetoken
I’m watching it not at the CNNGO site, but through an embed of the live stream in one of their news stories on the regular cnn.com site.
The CNN website is a lesson in fail, thankfully there’s no shortage of alternative live streams available on the web (I watched entirely through TVtoss, same with the last debate - has 4/5 alternative streams for every channel)…
Hillary…Solid and brought her game. Winner.
Bernie…uneven but probably had some of the best lines tonight. His supporters will be generally happy.
O’Malley…not too bad. Looking for a position in Hillary’s cabinet
Lincoln…I have seen outcrops of sandstone that were more interesting.
Webb…what fucking party is he in?
re: #334 HappyWarrior
I seriously do not get Webb at all. He first quits on the state saying he’s burned out from politics. Fair enough Jim but now you’re running for president. Oh and a lot of people the President included in the Democratic party apparatus that he runs away from in a vain attempt to sound like a “maverick” campaigned for him.
Politicians automatically lose a debate when they use the word politics to mean something they oppose.
re: #332 teleskiguy
I think O’Malley edged Bernie and Chafee was a less painful kind of awful than Webb.
Dodgers beat the Mets. Game 5 in LA with Utley cleared to play. There’ll be some real bad blood.
Really impressed with O’Malley. Don’t know much about him, but I thought he did well tonight. Really, really liked his closing statement.
I will say in Webb’s defense that he is not bug fuck insane enough to be a Republican. But he came close with his enemy comment.
re: #337 Archangelus
The CNN website is a lesson in fail, thankfully there’s no shortage of alternative live streams available on the web (I watched entirely through tvtoss.com, same with the last debate - has 4/5 alternative streams for every channel)…
The CNNgo site is hosed, but the stream on the main CNN page is pretty steady.
Hopefully they will learn some things from this and next time’s experience will go more smoothly.
I’d have to look but I don’t remember Webb being that conservative in his Senate term. More so than your average Dem? Sure but not quite like guys like Mark Pryor or Mary Landrieu either. Not sure. I will admit here that I didn’t feel right about him from the start though because I thought his supporters bashed a man with more Democratic street creds (Harris Miller) in favor of Webb but as I said I do have a soft spot for him beating Allen but he’s made that hard.
re: #344 Big Beautiful Door
I will say in Webb’s defense that he is not bug fuck insane enough to be a Republican. But he came close with his enemy comment.
He would make a great Republican 16 years ago. In fact he was a Republican.
re: #338 Aunty Entity Dragon
Hillary…Solid and brought her game. Winner.
Bernie…uneven but probably had some of the best lines tonight. His supporters will be generally happy.
O’Malley…not too bad. Looking for a position in Hillary’s cabinet
Lincoln…I have seen outcrops of sandstone that were more interesting.
Webb…what fucking party is he in?
Nailed it.
Hillary and Bernie ruled the debate (i’m still hoping for a Hillary/Bernie 2016 ticket).
Can’t say why exactly, but Chafee gave me the impression of an overly hopeful turkey weeks away from Thanksgiving.
I used to like Webb ages ago, but now for the life of me I can’t figure out why…
re: #343 rhuarc
He “won”, I think, because most people not in Maryland probably didn’t know who he is, so simply getting known is a big win for him.
But there are no real “winners” yet. We’re still 3 months away from the Iowa caucuses and it is not clear to me what a ground game can do.
re: #347 HappyWarrior
He would make a great Republican 16 years ago. In fact he was a Republican.
Heck Obama could’ve been a Republican 16 years ago. Most of his policies are former Republican policies.
re: #348 Archangelus
Nailed it.
Hillary and Bernie ruled the debate (i’m still hoping for a Hillary/Bernie 2016 ticket).
Can’t say why exactly, but Chafee gave me the impression of an overly hopeful turkey weeks away from Thanksgiving.
I used to like Webb ages ago, but now for the life of me I can’t figure out why…
WEbb when he first ran for office had a populist like edge to him. He spoke against outsourcing of jobs and he was actually critical of the Bush admin’s FP.
Winners HRC by a wide margin, then Sanders. Losers. The other three and that guy Jim Webb shot in Reno just to watch him die.
— John Cole (@Johngcole) October 14, 2015
re: #350 Big Beautiful Door
Heck Obama could’ve been a Republican 16 years ago. Most of his policies are former Republican policies.
I dunno about that recent but he’s definitely no radical or even liberal. He would have fit in great with the Rockefeller Republicans.
I may be a bit biased by the political times, but overall, I think the Dems put on a decent debate tonight. Sure there were some gaffs, but overall, they kept it pretty civil and jumped on the actual topics with some (as well as you can in a debate) talk about policy, etc.
I think Hillary did well. I think Bernie did pretty well too. O’Malley not bad. The other two…ugh. But all in all, if they can put a lot of what they all talked about into a platform and add in women’s issues, pound it all into one candidate as best as they can…we have a decent chance.
Later. As usual, these debates are always more fun with the Lizard crew. Thanks!
CNN doesn’t know what to do when the presidential debate isn’t between a group of Batman villains. #DemDebate
— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) October 14, 2015
re: #330 Bill and Opus for 2016!
I don’t think Biden will run. His son just died, and I imagine he wants to be with his family.
re: #345 Bill and Opus for 2016!
The CNNgo site is hosed, but the stream on the main CNN page is pretty steady.
Hopefully they will learn some things from this and next time’s experience will go more smoothly.
It sure wasn’t for me in the past, so I’m not exactly as optimistic about improvements.
On the plus side, since the feed I was watching through was an international one, the only commercials I saw were for travel agencies and countries looking to attract tourists - thus sparing me from the toenail fungus cream commercials everyone’s talking about… :)
re: #348 Archangelus
Nailed it.
Hillary and Bernie ruled the debate (i’m still hoping for a Hillary/Bernie 2016 ticket).
Can’t say why exactly, but Chafee gave me the impression of an overly hopeful turkey weeks away from Thanksgiving.
I used to like Webb ages ago, but now for the life of me I can’t figure out why…
In comparison to who he ran against in Virginia, I know exactly why.
re: #349 freetoken
I’m not saying O’Malley won, though I understand why you would say that. I tend to lean more towards Bernie overall in support, but I think Hillary very clearly was the most poised and polished up there and stood above her fellow stage attendees in this debate.
re: #358 Bill and Opus for 2016!
In comparison to who he ran against in Virginia, I know exactly why.
That’s what did it for me. It ended working out though. Webb left and we got Kaine who I think is the cream of the Virginia delegation. I respect Warner but Kaine is someone I like and respect.
re: #353 HappyWarrior
I dunno about that recent but he’s definitely no radical or even liberal. He would have fit in great with the Rockefeller Republicans.
I keep annoying local Republicans by calling Obama the best GOP president since Ike.
re: #353 HappyWarrior
I dunno about that recent but he’s definitely no radical or even liberal. He would have fit in great with the Rockefeller Republicans.
Obama was the Democrat we needed to swing things back left. Especially with the shit Republicans have done since 2009.
re: #363 William Lewis
I keep annoying local Republicans by calling Obama the best GOP president since Ike.
That was always the line about Clinton lol. But yeah.
re: #364 Belafon
Obama was the Democrat we needed to swing things back left. Especially with the shit Republicans have done since 2009.
Unfortunately true.
re: #358 Bill and Opus for 2016!
In comparison to who he ran against in Virginia, I know exactly why.
George Allen is truly righteous trash. A reactionary to the core.
re: #364 Belafon
Obama was the Democrat we needed to swing things back left. Especially with the shit Republicans have done since 2009.
Oh I know. I just think Obama would be too socially liberal for the GOP circa 2000. Someone with his views in the 1980’s though. Easily. But yeah I will say this about Obama, he has helped push the social conversation to the left. We do need to have that conversation about left wing economics though.I don’t know who the best person for that conversation is though. I don’t think it’s Bernie even though I like the man
re: #365 HappyWarrior
That was always the line about Clinton lol. But yeah.
Eh, I always considered Willy to be only an adequate Republican. Sort of a non-paranoid Nixon who at least was sane on SCOTUS justices.
Webb:
That guy I shot in VIET FUCKING NAM I WAS IN ‘NAM YOU FUCKERS AND I KILLED BETTER PEOPLE THAN YOU!
re: #369 William Lewis
Eh, I always considered Willy to be only an adequate Republican. Sort of a non-paranoid Nixon who at least was sane on SCOTUS justices.
I know, I was just saying that was always the joke. I think Moore even said it in Stupid White Men.
re: #355 jaunte
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Democrats: Individuals having a serious discussion about the issues.
Republicans: 1980s Frat Party seeing who can be the loudest and most obnoxious
Also-rans : Frat Party members who couldn’t hold their liquor.
Democrats just made Republicans look like amateurs.
Thank you, Bernie, for telling it like it is on the emails.
Jim Webb, your party is over there ——->
re: #348 Archangelus
Hillary and Bernie ruled the debate (i’m still hoping for a Hillary/Bernie 2016 ticket).
It’s still WAY to early to speculate about running mates (though I’m sure we will anyway), but if/when she gets the nom, Mrs. Clinton is going to need a ticket-mate who can:
1. Make a credible President in the public’s perception
2. Appeal to at least one up-for-grabs demographic
3. Campaign like a Motherf——-r for the ticket and the Party.
Oh, and 4) be as dirt- and scandal-free as humanly possible, given the probably predictably vile tenor of the Republican campaign
It is quite I think interesting and telling that the Dems have but a fraction of the people running but the range in views is that much more bigger. There’s nothing anything close like Sanders and Webb or really even Clinton and Sanders. All the Republican debates is for the most part people trying to out wingnut the other and tell the Republican base how much tehy’re like Ronald REagan.
Jim Webb is the best candidate the Republicans have.
— ArnMenconi (@ArnMenconi) October 14, 2015
re: #371 HappyWarrior
I know, I was just saying that was always the joke. I think Moore even said it in Stupid White Men.
Really? I didn’t read it so I wouldn’t have gotten it there.
re: #378 William Lewis
Really? I didn’t read it so I wouldn’t have gotten it there.
Yeah I read a lot of polemics in those days sad to say.
It was nice to just watch some adults debate and not the reality show shit show that we’ve subjected to with the the GOP debates. I didn’t have an incredibly strong feeling about HRC before and I still don’t but I have no doubt she’s the strongest candidate we have. I don’t “feel the Bern”, he just underwhelms me. O’Malley has a nice handsome face and had some decent points, though I agree he is running for VP and it shows. Chaffee I felt really bad for. I hope someone can find a good hobby for him. Webb - dickwad.
re: #379 Jenner7
Megyn, it’s the DemoCRATIC party, not Democrat.
They’re still doing that? You know it used to not bother me and I thought people were just being whiny but FFS, if a professional and I use that term loosely to describe Megyn journalist described the GOP as the “Republic Party”, I am sure Preibus would be the first to whine about the liberal media bias against the GOP. Really be fucking professional.
re: #382 HappyWarrior
She’s huffing and puffing about the emails not being an issue with voters.
re: #373 Jenner7
Democrats just made Republicans look like amateurs.
Thank you, Bernie, for telling it like it is on the emails.
Jim Webb, your party is over there ——->
I hope Trump is steamed that this debate got more viewers than the republican CNN debate. He’s due for a new worst tweet ever.
re: #384 stpaulbear
I forgot about Trump, did he manage to say something stupid tonight?
re: #383 Jenner7
She’s huffing and puffing about the emails not being an issue with voters.
I am sure she is. I could care less about the fucking emails. Tell me your plan on how you’er going to help people like me. The email thing is just a desperate ploy to attack her.
re: #385 Jenner7
I forgot about Trump, did he manage to say something stupid tonight?
not during the debate but before hand he insisted that people were just going to fall asleep.
What I learned from the #DemocraticDebate is that my country is better than @govmikehuckabee.
— Phil Plait (@BadAstronomer) October 14, 2015
re: #379 Jenner7
Megyn, it’s the DemoCRATIC party, not Democrat.
I vote we drop the L and an from Republican.
re: #388 teleskiguy
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I noticed that Huckabee said “North Korean” rather than going all out and saying “Korean”, if you’re going to be a bigoted dipshit, Mike, why not go all out? Though really Huckabee is the last to talk about dogs considering his son.
re: #385 Jenner7
I forgot about Trump, did he manage to say something stupid tonight?
Someone posted a Trump tweet earlier about how the R debates viewer numbers were going to be so much better than the D debate. He was wrong.
re: #338 Aunty Entity Dragon
Hillary…Solid and brought her game. Winner.
Bernie…uneven but probably had some of the best lines tonight. His supporters will be generally happy.
O’Malley…not too bad. Looking for a position in Hillary’s cabinet
Lincoln…I have seen outcrops of sandstone that were more interesting.
Webb…what fucking party is he in?
Sandstone better since you can find interesting fossils in them, not elect said fossils to high office.
re: #379 Jenner7
Megyn, it’s the DemoCRATIC party, not Democrat.
Boeher still does that constantly. Every time.
MSNBC has plastic surgery victim Wayne Newton on to discuss the debate. Because what the fuck????! #DemDebate
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) October 14, 2015
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