Wednesday Night Jam: Kurt Vile, “Pretty Pimpin”

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From the new album “b’lieve i’m goin down” out September 25th and available for pre-order: http://smarturl.it/blieve_im_goin_downi

Directed by Daniel Henry (http://danmhenry.com/) - full credits below

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Video credits:

Director: Daniel Henry
DP: Dustin Lane
Producer: Chris Black
AC: Erick Aguilar
Steadicam: Drew Weaver
Production Designer: Alex Fuhr
Gaffer: Theodore Rysz III
VFX: Joe Wenkoff
Colorist - Jonathan Rogers

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414 comments
1
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 14, 2015 • 10:45:27pm

It turns out people can make a Youtube concept out of ANYTHING.

FishCenter Live Friday 2015-06-05

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 14, 2015 • 10:54:18pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 14, 2015 • 11:31:12pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 12:00:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 1:46:33am

re: #3 teleskiguy

egad. it’s morning here…

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freetoken  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:03:47am

Kazakhstan… Texastan… what’s the difference really?

Leading Kazakh prelate speaks of ‘smoke of Satan’ at 2014, current synods

The leading prelate in Kazakhstan said in an October 10 speech to the Synod of Bishops that “during the Synod last year, ‘the smoke of Satan’ was trying to enter the aula [ed: court] of Paul VI.”

Voice of the Family, a coalition of pro-life groups, stated on its website that it was publishing Archbishop Tomash Peta’s synod intervention with his permission.

The archbishop of Astana identified the smoke of Satan with “the proposal to admit to Holy Communion those who are divorced and living in new civil unions; the affirmation that cohabitation is a union which may have in itself some values; the pleading for homosexuality as something which is allegedly normal.”

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:05:17am

re: #6 freetoken

Kazakhstan… Texastan… what’s the difference really?

Leading Kazakh prelate speaks of ‘smoke of Satan’ at 2014, current synods

flat, dry, desolate, with enormous oil reserves…you’re right.

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freetoken  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:06:22am

re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

flat, dry, desolate, with enormous oil reserves…you’re right.

Except that Kazakhstan is bigger, just don’t tell the Texans.

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freetoken  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:21:57am

MP3 Audio

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:25:38am

re: #6 freetoken

Kazakhstan… Texastan… what’s the difference really?

Leading Kazakh prelate speaks of ‘smoke of Satan’ at 2014, current synods

My grandmother was excluded from Catholic church services because she was divorced and remarried: in the eyes of the church, she was an adultress.

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freetoken  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:34:51am

This one goes out to the Archbishop of Astana:

MP3 Audio

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:41:43am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My grandmother was excluded from Catholic church services because she was divorced and remarried: in the eyes of the church, she was an adultress.

The Russian Orthodox Church had to slap a limit on how many times they’d let a widower remarry, because they routinely beat their wives to death in lieu of divorce.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:43:37am

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Russian Orthodox Church had to slap a limit on how many times they’d let a widower remarry, because they routinely beat their wives to death in lieu of divorce.

And women could just feed their husband poison mushrooms…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:49:11am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And women could just feed their husband poison mushrooms…

I think Russians know their mushrooms too well…./

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 2:53:54am

re: #14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think Russians know their mushrooms too well…./

I am told that there is a certain mushroom whose effect is cumulative and untraceable…just a few sprinkled in with other dishes does the trick over time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 15, 2015 • 3:02:00am

re: #15 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am told that there is a certain mushroom whose effect is cumulative and untraceable…just a few sprinkled in with other dishes does the trick over time.

You’ve obviously made a study of this./

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 3:04:21am

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’ve obviously made a study of this./

Old Russian joke:

How did your first husband die?
-He ate poison mushrooms!
And your second husband?
-He ate poison mushrooms.
How did your third husband die?
-He was hit over the head with a shovel!
How did that happen?
-He didn’t want to eat his mushrooms!

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Targetpractice  Oct 15, 2015 • 3:10:48am

Prepare for the screeching:

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:03:52am

Some good news here out of Ostrava:

City representatives in Ostrava have approved the signing of a deal for the sale of plots at Mošnov to South Korea’s Hyundai Mobis for 69 million crowns, where the firm plans to build a factory for the production of car headlights. The company will recover its investment through subsidies, the city’s mayor, Tomáš Macura, said. The contract is to be signed within a few days; production of the new plant could begin in the near future, the Czech News Agency said.

69 million Kč is about $2.9 million.

radio.cz

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:15:04am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

The company will recover its investment through subsidies, the city’s mayor, Tomáš Macura, said.

God bless free-market socialism!

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:19:30am

Uhmmm, Lizards. Not cool. Down dinged and reported

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:24:33am

re: #20 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

God bless free-market socialism!

It’s a pretty common practice here - basically, a bribe for a large company to come and set up shop and employ the locals. The unemployment rate here is around 10%, which is at least nowhere near as bad as it was around 2004, when it was hovering around 20%. Still the region (Moravian-Silesia) has one of the higher unemployment rates in the Czech Republic. The capital, Prague, is the polar opposite - their UE rate is only around 2 or 3%, pretty much full employment. Overall, the Czech Republic’s UE rate is currently at 5.9%.

Here’s the most recent stats (end of September 2015) from the Ministry of Labor:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:24:43am

10 players decide, “Nuh uh, we’ll just stay here in Bots, thanks.”

Eritrean football players seek asylum in Botswana bbc.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:26:07am

re: #21 Bubblehead II

Uhmmm, Lizards. Not cool. Down dinged and reported

littlegreenfootballs.com

DA FUQ

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:26:18am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

It is pretty common practice all over, but it is rationalized even in places like Texas as “promoting job creation”, and therefore NOT socialism.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:26:26am

Back later. Off to teach and pay the bills.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:35:37am

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ

One would figure, that after being a member for 6 years, this individual should know that threats of physical violence are deeply frowned upon.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:39:31am

I was listening to a podcast featuring a national prize-winning artist (of sorts) the other day. Didn’t know anything about said artist, so I looked up the wiki. Find out the artist’s sibling’s name. Sibling’s office is right next to mine. I’ve been in this office for two months and haven’t even said ‘hi.’ I suck at life sometimes. Today, I will say ‘hi.’

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 4:51:39am

Who watched South Park last night? There was a scene where Cartman sees that someone has shit on the floor and calls over the Mexican kid to come and clean it up.

Did CCJ just hit the big time?

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:05:06am

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

Who watched South Park last night? There was a scene where Cartman sees that someone has shit on the floor and calls over the Mexican kid to come and clean it up.

Did CCJ just hit the big time?

Was thinking the exact same thing watching the episode.

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:08:46am

Pallywood keeps churning obvious lies:

Ynet: IN PICTURES: “Murdered” Teenage Terrorist Alive and Well

Photos emerge of Ahmed Mansra, who stabbed and seriously wounded two Israelis, one of them a boy his age, after Palestinian President Abbas made claims he was ‘executed’ by Israel; English translation of the speech done by PLO, however, tempers language to ‘shot in cold blood.’

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and the Arab media have been claiming since Monday that 13-year-old Ahmed Manasra, who was documented committing a terror attack in Pisgat Ze’ev this week, has been “executed” by Israel.

Except that Dr. Asher Salmon, the deputy director of the Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem’s Ein Karem, said Thursday that the boy is alive, and is in light-to-moderate condition. Photos of Mansra from the hospital were released to support those statements.

“I want to report on the situation of the Palestinian teen who was involved in the stabbing in Pisgat Ze’ev,” Dr. Salmon said. “He’s being properly treated. Medically, I believe we could discharge him in the next few days.” A Jewish 13-year-old boy and a 21-year-old were seriously wounded in the attack perpetrated by Mansra and another, 15-year-old, Palestinian teen

Abass is doing the same old thing that Arafat did for years - saying once inciting thing in Arabic to the Palestinian populace, and something almost entirely different in English to international audiences.
In this case, he spoke repeatedly in Arabic on how Israelis are deliberately executing Palestinian children like Mansra, while the English version of the very same speech published abroad wiped away the ‘deliberate execution’ part, replacing it with ‘shooting in cold blood’.
Both versions of the speech were published more than a day before the Israeli press release showing the murderous little abomination was alive and in better state by far than his victims - though there’s no way the Palestinian Authority didn’t learn of his exact condition prior to that…

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darthstar  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:18:19am
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freetoken  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:27:06am

re: #32 darthstar

I believe the guy in the red was known as The Great Khali here in America - he’s from India and is a celeb there. He recently made a commercial for a cement company in India that has become something of a Youtube hit:

Giant strength for the Giant Feat. The Great Khali

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:40:06am

Fanboi moment — Jeri Ryan appeared on the latest Arrow episode.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 5:40:27am

re: #31 Archangelus

Pallywood keeps churning obvious lies:

Ynet: IN PICTURES: “Murdered” Teenage Terrorist Alive and Well

Abass is doing the same old thing that Arafat did for years - saying once inciting thing in Arabic to the Palestinian populace, and something almost entirely different in English to international audiences.
In this case, he spoke repeatedly in Arabic on how Israelis are deliberately executing Palestinian children like Mansra, while the English version of the very same speech published abroad wiped away the ‘deliberate execution’ part, replacing it with ‘shooting in cold blood’.
Both versions of the speech were published more than a day before the Israeli press release showing the murderous little abomination was alive and in better state by far than his victims - though there’s no way the Palestinian Authority didn’t learn of his exact condition prior to that…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:00:27am

Dim Jim, Still SMOTI. Sorry Crowder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:08:58am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a media war, and both sides are playing it out to the full extent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:12:43am
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b.d.  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:13:27am

Love how the buzz about the NEW, HUGE AND GAME CHANGING SNOWDENESQUE DRONE WHISTLEBLOWER STORY on Pierre’s moneypit is all about the leak and not about anything actually in the story.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:13:30am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

BAM!

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b.d.  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:14:22am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ACTIVIST JUDGES!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:15:36am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Altering a state-issued document like that has to be a felony, even if you are a County Clerk.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:16:34am

re: #42 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Altering a state-issued document like that has to be a felony, even if you are a County Clerk.

Maybe not a felony, but definitely against state code.

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b.d.  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:18:05am

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe not a felony, but definitely against state code.

If it is a felony then she can’t own a gun or live where there is one.

The wingnut conundrum

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:18:11am

Twitter is down.

I might as well get some actual work done.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:19:35am

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter is down.

I might as well get some actual work done.

They laid off the first-shift hamsters, I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:24:11am

Hey her “deeply held religious convictions” should allow her to violate the state code.//

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b.d.  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:28:03am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Hey her “deeply held religious convictions” should allow her to violate the state code.//

and the Pope gave her a “Get out of Purgatory Free” card

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:28:35am

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter is down.

I might as well get some actual work done.

Seems to be working at my end.

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b.d.  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:29:58am

re: #49 Bubblehead II

Seems to be working at my end.

Here too, where #GlobalHandwashingDay is trending higher than Greenwald’s latest earth shattering blockbuster.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:30:50am

Back up now.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:31:28am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

Back up now.

Shift change

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:32:06am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

Back up now.

Thank god, or I would miss you guys reporting on the latest idiotic nonsense that is trending right now…

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:34:06am

re: #50 b.d.

Here too, where #GlobalHandwashingDay is trending higher than Greenwald’s latest earth shattering blockbuster.

The W.H. just tweeted POTUS to deliver statement on Afghanistan at 1100 E.T.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:35:36am

re: #48 b.d.

and the Pope gave her a “Get out of Purgatory Free” card

and a free coupon for pancakes at the next Vatican breakfast.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:36:12am

Going to go get breakfast. back in a bit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:36:15am

I’m getting hooked on House of Cards (first 6 episodes downed in 3 days). Man this is good.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:37:20am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I’m getting hooked on House of Cards (first 6 episodes downed in 3 days). Man this is good.

That’s probably my next series to catch up on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:38:08am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I’m getting hooked on House of Cards (first 6 episodes downed in 3 days). Man this is good.

Totally loved seasons 1 and 2, was less thrilled with third season and totally confused by the sudden and unexpected ending…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:38:46am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s probably my next series to catch up on.

Spacey just amazing. And I didn’t even recognize Robin Wright as his wife. A lot of unknowns in the supporting cast but they’re all good too. It’s got a very Shakespearian feel to it. Underwood reminds me of Iago or if you’re a sports fan like me lol Bill Belichick.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:39:20am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Totally loved seasons 1 and 2, was less thrilled with third season and totally confused by the sudden and unexpected ending…

Long way to go but really like what I’ve seen so far. So much TV, so little time with work and other stuff.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:40:51am

re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

flat, dry, desolate, with enormous oil reserves…you’re right.

And they speak an unintelligible language

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:41:41am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Both versions of House of Cards are good. I prefer the Brit version as it’s slightly more astringent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:44:06am

re: #63 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Both versions of House of Cards are good. I prefer the Brit version as it’s slightly more astringent.

I do see the Brit version’s on Netflix tooo. Just not as familiar with British politics and the Parliamentary system.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:45:54am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

In-depth knowledge of the parliamentary system is not needed.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:46:34am

re: #63 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Both versions of House of Cards are good. I prefer the Brit version as it’s slightly more astringent.

You might very well think that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:46:45am

re: #65 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In-depth knowledge of the parliamentary system is not needed.

Okay good deal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:53:27am

re: #63 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Both versions of House of Cards are good. I prefer the Brit version as it’s slightly more astringent.

The protagonist is a bigger, more arrogant bastard than his American counterpart…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:57:17am

Gunfucker in my timeline

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 6:58:36am

I do see the Britsih version is older. One thing I enjoyed

Click to Reveal

Was how Underwood’s debate gaffe with the Teachers Union head Spinella got turned into an internet meme because it was something I totally could see happening in real life

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:00:02am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Totally loved seasons 1 and 2, was less thrilled with third season and totally confused by the sudden and unexpected ending…

I have yet to watch. Is this a Netflix series? I don’t have the “streaming” membership. Not sure it’s worth getting yet. I like that Amazon Prime allows me to stream their shows, although I haven’t watched any yet. But the show Bosch—based on the Michael Connelly novels—looks good.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:01:00am

re: #71 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have yet to watch. Is this a Netflix series? I don’t have the “streaming” membership. Not sure it’s worth getting yet. I like that Amazon Prime allows me to stream their shows, although I haven’t watched any yet. But the show Bosch—based on the Michael Connelly novels—looks good.

Yeah Netlflix and I think the streaming is worth it but I don’t know your budget.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:01:22am

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter is down.

I might as well get some actual work done.

Oh no, anything but that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:02:48am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Yeah Netlflix and I think the streaming is worth it but I don’t know your budget.

I can budget it, but I already pay so much for stupid cable and everything else I just don’t want to pay $6 more or whatever it is.

It’s all about the principle. ///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:03:59am

re: #74 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I can budget it, but I already pay so much for stupid cable and everything else I just don’t want to pay $6 more or whatever it is.

It’s all about the principle. ///

Right. I think it’s worth it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:04:06am

re: #74 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I can budget it, but I already pay so much for stupid cable and everything else I just don’t want to pay $6 more or whatever it is.

It’s all about the principle. ///

And part of its the time involved. Not sure I’d ultimately use the extra service if I got it. Especially now with all the sports going on. But eventually I’ll crack and get it.

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:05:22am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Belief vs. fact. He believes Carson was right, even though the facts show otherwise.

When entire armies failed to stop Hitler, no amount of Jews with guns would have stopped him. Of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, 5.8+ million resided in territories invaded/captured/acceded to the Nazis. Those are territories that were defended by armies - armies with guns, lots of guns. Guns of all sizes. And tanks. Planes. Submarines. Ships.

Oh, and that Warsaw Ghetto Uprising isn’t proof that guns can hold off the Nazis either. The outcome was the same - liquidation and death. The manner and choice of death was in defense of their lives instead of being slaughtered directly or starved to death. But dead they still were/are. Jews weren’t about to become an insurgent army with assistance from outside. They weren’t going to go all Wolverines! not when most Europeans didn’t mind the Jews going into the dustbin of history too. Some were all too helpful in that task too. Antisemitism has a lot to do with that too (and ahem, Christian Antisemitism at that).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:06:22am

re: #77 lawhawk

Belief vs. fact. He believes Carson was right, even though the facts show otherwise.

When entire armies failed to stop Hitler, no amount of Jews with guns would have stopped him. Of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, 5.8+ million resided in territories invaded/captured/acceded to the Nazis. Those are territories that were defended by armies - armies with guns, lots of guns. Guns of all sizes. And tanks. Planes. Submarines. Ships.

Oh, and that Warsaw Ghetto Uprising isn’t proof that guns can hold off the Nazis either. The outcome was the same - liquidation and death. The manner and choice of death was in defense of their lives instead of being slaughtered directly or starved to death. But dead they still were/are. Jews weren’t about to become an insurgent army with assistance from outside. They weren’t going to go all Wolverines! not when most Europeans didn’t mind the Jews going into the dustbin of history too. Some were all too helpful in that task too. Antisemitism has a lot to do with that too (and ahem, Christian Antisemitism at that).

I blocked that gunfucker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:08:16am

re: #77 lawhawk

Belief vs. fact. He believes Carson was right, even though the facts show otherwise.

When entire armies failed to stop Hitler, no amount of Jews with guns would have stopped him. Of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, 5.8+ million resided in territories invaded/captured/acceded to the Nazis. Those are territories that were defended by armies - armies with guns, lots of guns. Guns of all sizes. And tanks. Planes. Submarines. Ships.

Oh, and that Warsaw Ghetto Uprising isn’t proof that guns can hold off the Nazis either. The outcome was the same - liquidation and death. The manner and choice of death was in defense of their lives instead of being slaughtered directly or starved to death. But dead they still were/are. Jews weren’t about to become an insurgent army with assistance from outside. They weren’t going to go all Wolverines! not when most Europeans didn’t mind the Jews going into the dustbin of history too. Some were all too helpful in that task too. Antisemitism has a lot to do with that too (and ahem, Christian Antisemitism at that).

The bolded is something that so many Christians like Carson refuse to admit. The Nazis wouldn’t have been able to do what they did without the long culture of Antisemitism that Christianity had a big role in shaping.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:10:49am

I’m literally listening to the Kershaw Hitler biography and it’s obvious to me that the Nazis benefited greatly from long held antisemitic attitudes that had been in Europe long before Darwin (who they’re also fond of blaming the Holocaust on)

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:11:52am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Prepare for the screeching:

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Had to be done. We’re going to need to have a small force in Afghanistan for the long haul. That country got immense problems that won’t be brought under control in a matter of years; solving them will be the work of decades.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:14:16am

re: #77 lawhawk

Belief vs. fact. He believes Carson was right, even though the facts show otherwise.

There is nothing that More Guns and More Free Market cannot solve.

/

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:16:56am

Dumb cop leaves gun in restaurant washroom, where it is found by a 5-year old girl. This one didn’t make national news because the girl had been taught well enough to know not to touch the gun but instead she went and told her mother.

Smart mom and girl who listened kept a bad thing from becoming worse. But that cop should be given a long suspension, if not fired outright. Suppose some asshole criminal had found the gun and then used it to kill someone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:17:12am

You know how wingnuts are always complaining about “race-baiting”?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:18:15am

re: #27 Bubblehead II

One would figure, that after being a member for 6 years, this individual should know that threats of physical violence are deeply frowned upon.

Who was it? Deleted by the time I got here.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:18:34am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is nothing that More Guns and More Free Market cannot solve.

/

Well, free markets helped by giving the US and UK the kind of economic power needed to build the guns, and ships, and planes, and tanks needed to win the war.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:18:36am
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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:19:01am

An economy so awful:

Gold futures wavered in early trading Thursday as a batch of slightly better-than-expected economic reports delivered a more optimistic view of the U.S. economy.

A reading of jobless claims showed that people applying for U.S. unemployment benefits fell by 7,000 to 255,000—its lowest level since 1973.

FoxNews, where up is down, would find reason to make this out to be bad news.

It’s a 42 year low. Lower than during Begin, Reagan, or Palestine. Lower than Ayatollahs in Iran and Russians in Afghanistan. Lower than during Watergate or Punk Rock. /we didn’t start the fire.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:19:32am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Russia Today airs bizarre anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton

I’m sure it all makes some kind of sense.

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:19:42am

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Had to be done. We’re going to need to have a small force in Afghanistan for the long haul. That country got immense problems that won’t be brought under control in a matter of years; solving them will be the work of decades.

Why is it that the U.S. has to be the ONE country to fix Afghanistan?

Is it because we helped mess it all up when we didn’t concentrate on the real job of getting rid of Bin Laden and AQ?

We are stuck in a vicious cycle that even you admit by saying it will take “the work of decades.”

Is it typical conservative world view that we blow our treasury on stupid wars in countries that may never ever change, but can’t spend a dollar on things like American Health Care?

Where is the rest of the world in all of this? This is all so damn frustrating.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:20:13am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

You know how wingnuts are always complaining about “race-baiting”?

It’s shocking. Ben is Shocked.

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:20:26am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Considering the Russians are still pumping out MH-17 conspiracy theories even though it’s definitively shown that a Russian missile downed that plane, nothing surprises me as to what RT will run (as the official/unofficial Putin mouthpiece).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:21:30am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Well, free markets helped by giving the US and UK the kind of economic power needed to build the guns, and ships, and planes, and tanks needed to win the war.

Those weapons were, however, produced by a totally regulated and centralized wartime economy.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:22:39am

re: #88 lawhawk

An economy so awful:

FoxNews, where up is down, would find reason to make this out to be bad news.

It’s a 42 year low. Lower than during Begin, Reagan, or Palestine. Lower than Ayatollahs in Iran and Russians in Afghanistan. Lower than during Watergate or Punk Rock. /we didn’t start the fire.

There’s also no Social Security COLA next year because prices are low even though we have ZIMBABWE LEVEL HYPERINFLATION END THE FED!!!!!1

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:23:12am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

You know how wingnuts are always complaining about “race-baiting”?

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Adn not a word for his fundie buddies who think Jews are hellbound.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:23:13am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Well, free markets helped by giving the US and UK the kind of economic power needed to build the guns, and ships, and planes, and tanks needed to win the war.

A “free market” would have allowed the weapons manufacturers to sell to both sides.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:23:34am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Adn not a word for his fundie buddies who think Jews are hellbound.

He knows which side his bread is buttered on.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:23:35am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Those weapons were, however, produced by a totally regulated and centralized wartime economy.

True, and in that limited case of an all-out war that sort of centralization and regulation was justified and correct.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:23:58am

re: #85 Stanley Sea Toujours

Who was it? Deleted by the time I got here.

Karma: 281

JEA62

Registered since: May 4, 2009 at 12:01 pm
No. of comments posted: 385
No. of Pages posted: 0

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CuriousLurker  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:24:35am

Drive-by - Strong candidate for preventive blocking: @Conscores

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:25:10am

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

Dumb cop leaves gun in restaurant washroom, where it is found by a 5-year old girl. This one didn’t make national news because the girl had been taught well enough to know not to touch the gun but instead she went and told her mother.

Smart mom and girl who listened kept a bad thing from becoming worse. But that cop should be given a long suspension, if not fired outright. Suppose some asshole criminal had found the gun and then used it to kill someone.

Well now you know why I don’t think highly of guns and “the responsible gun owner (tm)”. This was a professional. And this shit happens all the time.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:26:00am

Also this, in case you need a smile before lunch, heh:

BBL

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:26:06am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

A “free market” would have allowed the weapons manufacturers to sell to both sides.

Actually, no. Free markets, as understood by Adam Smith and not Murray Rothbard, were still to be subject to considerations of national interest in matters of international trade.

Remember, I’m talking about real economics, not Ayn Rand’s fevered dreamworld.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:26:15am

re: #99 Bubblehead II

Karma: 281

JEA62

Registered since: May 4, 2009 at 12:01 pm
No. of comments posted: 385
No. of Pages posted: 0

SEems they have made shitty comments before in that case.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:26:29am

re: #71 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have yet to watch. Is this a Netflix series? I don’t have the “streaming” membership. Not sure it’s worth getting yet. I like that Amazon Prime allows me to stream their shows, although I haven’t watched any yet. But the show Bosch—based on the Michael Connelly novels—looks good.

Bosch is very good although I do have a problem disassociating Bosch from Lost’s Man in Black. Anyway, it got me started reading Connelly’s Bosch books. Four down, and a bunch more to come.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:26:45am

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

True, and in that limited case of an all-out war that sort of centralization and regulation was justified and correct.

Even in peacetime, the defense industry has little to do with the free market.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:27:41am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even in peacetime, the defense industry has little to do with the free market.

The defense industry is a cluster f.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:28:19am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

The defense industry is a cluster f.

nothing like a no-bid, cost-plus contract. license to print money.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:29:15am

re: #105 sizzzzlerz

Bosch is very good although I do have a problem disassociating Bosch from Lost’s Man in Black. Anyway, it got me started reading Connelly’s Bosch books. Four down, and a bunch more to come.

His books are OK, I have several of them, but it seems like a character and story lines that would work even better for TV. So I’m pleased someone has take that idea and run with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:29:19am

oh, look. Another one:
Shopper fires gun at alleged shoplifters in Elkhart Big R parking lot, police say

Big R employees were chasing two suspects who were shoplifting, police say. A shopper joined the chase, yelling at the suspects to stop. When the suspects entered a vehicle, the shopper drew a handgun and fired one shot at them, police say.

The suspects accused of shoplifting got away, and a shell casing was found in the parking lot.

The person who shot the gun was brought to the Elkhart Police Department for questioning and then released, police say.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:29:33am

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Actually, no. Free markets, as understood by Adam Smith and not Murray Rothbard, were still to be subject to considerations of national interest in matters of international trade.

Remember, I’m talking about real economics, not Ayn Rand’s the GOP’s fevered dreamworld.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:29:37am

re: #77 lawhawk

Belief vs. fact. He believes Carson was right, even though the facts show otherwise.

If I know my gunfuckers, and I do, he believes that if he’d been there he’d have stood tall, unlimbered his shootin’ iron and killed so many Nazis that the Jews would have immediately risen up and chosen him as their leader. What’s Hebrew for “Wolverines”?

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:29:54am

re: #100 CuriousLurker

Drive-by - Strong candidate for preventive blocking: @Conscores

Indeed. when they post crap about “Sodomites gaining ground at Fox News!”, you know they’re trouble.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:31:12am

re: #102 CuriousLurker

I married the second one. Don’t know if it will last, we’ve only been married for 37 years.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:31:17am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

SEems they have made shitty comments before in that case.

Yep. Not going to search its history, but I don’t see it being around much longer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:31:57am
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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:33:27am

re: #109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

His books are OK, I have several of them, but it seems like a character and story lines that would work even better for TV. So I’m pleased someone has take that idea and run with it.

The Netflix series is excellent. I’m hoping for a new season soon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:33:30am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeller’s my candidate, I’ll do it ma.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:34:25am

re: #115 Bubblehead II

Yep. Not going to search its history, but I don’t see it being around much longer.

I don’t know the user but I went WTF when I saw the comment earlier before I logged in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:34:43am
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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:34:54am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GOP clown bus is nearly at Donner Pass, and they’re ready to devour their own. All the asterisks who still think that they should be running, are still in there, even though their campaigns show just how awful candidates they are (and that’s even though their policies are virtually indistinguishable from those who are leading the clown bus at the moment).

Christie’s polling sucks broadly, but he’s getting no love in NJ either.
Paul? He loathes his own campaign and doesn’t understand why he was even doing a live stream, which he was touting (hey, is this thing on?)

Etc.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:35:39am

re: #117 allegro

The Netflix series is excellent. I’m hoping for a new season soon.

Its actually on Amazon Prime. Last I heard, they were planning a second season.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:35:41am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, look. Another one:
Shopper fires gun at alleged shoplifters in Elkhart Big R parking lot, police say

Gah again? Seriously. People please stop shooting at shoplifters. Yes, it’s a crime but no one deserves to die over it and worse you could hit someone else in the crossfire. You want to prove gunownership is repsonsible, don’t do stpuid shit like this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:36:00am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmmm.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:37:09am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Erick Erickson tells Rand Paul to “take your campaign out back and shoot it”

When you’ve lost Erick son of Erick….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:38:02am

re: #125 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

When you’ve lost Erick son of Erick….

I don’t know if Erick’s been a big Rand guy anyhow. He strikes me as being drawn to a RR type candidate. Not sure though.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:38:11am

I can’t keep up with the threads these days, so I wonder if anyone saw the interview Chuck Todd did with John Kasich on his campaign bus traveling through New Hampshire. Once again Kasich tries hard to be a moderate sensible politician and he does that in the interview.

He takes Hillary to task for saying she was proud of the fact that she made enemies with Republicans in the debate the other night. He bitches about the fact that to fix all that needs to be fixed both parties are needed.

Yeah, it all sounds good.

But he dances away from the question about his own party having issues with the House Speaker position. That is disingenuous at best. This is typical Kasich. He doesn’t acknowledge he cut the Dems out of several of his early moves when he became Ohio governor. He sure as hell didn’t work with them.

He does a decent bit on Trump. You can tell he doesn’t want to kick the Trump bee hive for fear of getting stung so he talks about why Trump is getting the poll numbers. His take(paraphrasing): People when they are sick and frustrated often go to crazy alternative medicine out of that frustration. Then they find out it doesn’t work and they are back to the real doctors.

Yeah that’s a good line John. Are you really doing anything to explain that to the GOP base or are you waiting for the base to grow a brain and then come kiss your rings?

This is John Kasich. One minute sounds like a reasonable guy, the next going full bore ass and sticking a knife in you.

By the way. Johnny is supposed to roll out his idea for a budget. He is known for being a budget wonk and he is often credited for working Congress to the balanced budgets during the Clinton administration and is probably counting on the release to bring his numbers up. Good luck on that.

Here is a link to the MSNBC replay of the interview if anyone is interested.

MSNBC - Kasich: Full ‘MTP Daily’ Interview

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:38:41am

Man Rand though is an awful candidate. His problem is that he’s more of a politician than his father is and people see it and don’t like it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:39:30am

re: #127 ObserverArt

I can’t keep up with the threads these days, so I wonder if anyone saw the interview Chuck Todd did with John Kasich on his campaign bus traveling through New Hampshire. Once again Kasich tries hard to be a moderate sensible politician and he does that in the interview.

He takes Hillary to task for saying she was proud of the fact that she made enemies with Republicans in the debate the other night. He bitches about the fact that to fix all that needs to be fixed both parties are needed.

Yeah, it all sounds good.

But he dances away from the question about his own party having issues with the House Speaker position. That is disingenuous at best. This is typical Kasich. He doesn’t acknowledge he cut the Dems out of several of his early moves when he became Ohio governor. He sure as hell didn’t work with them.

He does a decent bit on Trump. You can tell he doesn’t want to kick the Trump bee hive for fear of getting stung so he talks about why Trump is getting the poll numbers. His take(paraphrasing): People when they are sick and frustrated often go to crazy alternative medicine out of that frustration. Then they find out it doesn’t work and they are back to the real doctors.

Yeah that’s a good line John. Are you really doing anything to explain that to the GOP base or are you waiting for the base to grow a brain and then come kiss your rings?

This is John Kasich. One minute sounds like a reasonable guy, the next going full bore ass and sticking a knife in you.

By the way. Johnny is supposed to roll out his idea for a budget. He is known for being a budget wonk and he is often credited for working Congress to the balanced budgets during the Clinton administration and is probably counting on the release to bring his numbers up. Good luck on that.

Here is a link to the MSNBC replay of the interview if anyone is interested.

MSNBC - Kasich: Full ‘MTP Daily’ Interview

Kasich strikes me as a concern troll.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:40:08am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Man Rand though is an awful candidate. His problem is that he’s more of a politician than his father is and people see it and don’t like it.

He’s also more of an asshole, which is saying a lot.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:40:41am

re: #130 It’s on his hat!

He’s also more of an asshole, which is saying a lot.

Yeah he really is.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:40:58am

re: #112 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If I know my gunfuckers, and I do, he believes that if he’d been there he’d have stood tall, unlimbered his shootin’ iron and killed so many Nazis that the Jews would have immediately risen up and chosen him as their leader. What’s Hebrew for “Wolverines”?

“Moron Label!”

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:41:10am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I don’t know the user but I went WTF when I saw the comment earlier before I logged in.

It was over the top. That’s why I flagged it and let the Lizards know about it so it could be buried until it got deleted. We don’t need that sort of crap here.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:42:47am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Kasich strikes me as a concern troll.

What successful politician isn’t a concern troll some of the time?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:43:31am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

What successful politician isn’t a concern troll some of the time?

It’s not that. It’s that he’s one most of the time. It stands out to me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:44:34am

re: #133 Bubblehead II

It was over the top. That’s why I flagged it and let the Lizards know about it so it could be buried until it got deleted. We don’t need that sort of crap here.

No we don’t and I appreciate you bringing it to everyone’s attention. That shit isn’t needed here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:45:53am

Roger McGuinn endorsed Carson I see. That makes me sad. I love the Byrds. Agh. I am not going to refuse to listen to their music over this but that’s disappointing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:48:22am

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

By no means is this definitive but it’s a good list of who has endorsed who.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:49:36am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Roger McGuinn endorsed Carson I see. That makes me sad. I love the Byrds. Agh. I am not going to refuse to listen to their music over this but that’s disappointing.

He’s 73….perhaps early onset dementia?

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Bubblehead II  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:50:22am

Can we just kill it already?

Hackers exploit new Adobe Flash flaw

LONDON — Researchers have discovered that a serious flaw affecting fully-patched versions of Adobe’s popular Flash software is being used by a hacking group linked to the Russian government known as Pawn Storm.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:51:02am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

He’s 73….perhaps early onset dementia?

I have no idea but I can tell you this much when my grandfather was that age in the lead up to the Iraq War, he saw immediately how fucked up that war was and Bush/Cheney were.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:51:33am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s a media war, and both sides are playing it out to the full extent.

Sorry, but that isn’t true. Benjamin Netanyahu is not claiming as “murdered” Israelis whom he knows to be alive. Mahmud Abbas is claiming at least one Palestinian he knows is alive was “executed” by Israeli police.

Wendell, you’re a good person, but on this one you’ve taken in fairy dust from the Magical Balance Fairy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:52:03am

re: #112 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If I know my gunfuckers, and I do, he believes that if he’d been there he’d have stood tall, unlimbered his shootin’ iron and killed so many Nazis that the Jews would have immediately risen up and chosen him as their leader. What’s Hebrew for “Wolverines”?

Meshuggah

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Dr. Matt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:52:04am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Erick Erickson tells Rand Paul to “take your campaign out back and shoot it” t.co pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 15, 2015

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:52:11am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Roger McGuinn endorsed Carson I see. That makes me sad. I love the Byrds. Agh. I am not going to refuse to listen to their music over this but that’s disappointing.

I care as little about musicians’ opinions about politics as I do about politicians’ opinions about music.

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ipsos  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:52:26am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I will be very happy to see Rand not only crash and burn as a presidential candidate but also cost the GOP the KY Senate seat next year, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:53:24am

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but that isn’t true. Benjamin Netanyahu is not claiming as “murdered” Israelis whom he knows to be alive. Mahmud Abbas is claiming at least one Palestinian he knows is alive was “executed” by Israeli police.

Wendell, you’re a good person, but on this one you’ve taken in fairy dust from the Magical Balance Fairy.

This example by the Palestinian side is particularly egregious, but both sides know how to play the media to their advantage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:54:26am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I care as little about musicians’ opinions about politics as I do about politicians’ opinions about music.

It’s not that I care. It’s just a little disappointment. I don’t listen to musicians or watch movies/TV for the politics of the individuals but I do have people I like and I think it’s fair to have some disappointment if someone whose music I like is a supportive of a dangerous right wing demagogue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:54:44am

re: #146 ipsos

I will be very happy to see Rand not only crash and burn as a presidential candidate but also cost the GOP the KY Senate seat next year, too.

Let’s hope so.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:55:37am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Meshuggah

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:56:00am

re: #150 Dr. Matt

Embedded Image

Doesn’t have the same ring.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:56:06am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I have no idea but I can tell you this much when my grandfather was that age in the lead up to the Iraq War, he saw immediately how fucked up that war was and Bush/Cheney were.

Yeah, but your father didn’t hang out with David Crosby either!

: )

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:56:50am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t have the same ring.

I’m sure Mel Brooks could do something with that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:57:41am

re: #152 ObserverArt

Yeah, but your father didn’t hang out with David Crosby either!

: )

Nah I can’t see my grandfather hanging out with David Crosby. He was a Reagan Democrat type who never voted for Reagan and saw through him if that makes any sense.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:58:44am

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

I’m sure Mel Brooks could do something with that.

I hope Mel’s doing well. Losing Ann had to have been heartbreaking for him. He really is a national treasure. I loved seeing Obama toast him at the Kennedy Center and talk about how he snck into Blazing Saddles as a kid.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:58:49am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

He’s 73….perhaps early onset dementia?

a time to laugh, a time to mourn
a time to support ludicrous end-of-times charlatans….

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:59:19am

re: #150 Dr. Matt

“Hast du gesehen in deine Leben?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 7:59:46am

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

a time to laugh, a time to mourn
a time to support ludicrous end-of-times charlatans….

I was so much older then,
I’m much older than that now.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:00:25am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This example by the Palestinian side is particularly egregious, but both sides know how to use the media to their advantage.

Yes, but “using the media to your advantage” isn’t a bad thing in and of itself. Spewing inflammatory lies that incite people to attack others with knives is far beyond “using the media to your advantage”: It’s what has been called “Stochastic Terrorism”. Abbas told lies knowing those lies would trigger attacks in which people would die. That makes him a murderer in my eyes.

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:00:35am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Roger McGuinn endorsed Carson I see. That makes me sad. I love the Byrds. Agh. I am not going to refuse to listen to their music over this but that’s disappointing.

I’ll wait to see who Crosby endorses. ;)

McGuinn, IIRC, has been drifting towards full-on wingnut status for quite a while now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:00:49am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
(But it’s still early, there will be MOAR STUPIDS)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:00:58am

Truth be told though, I liked the Byrds with Gram Parsons incarnation the most but the songs on the Easy Rider soundtrack were good. It’s not that I value celebrities political opinions but like a friend supporting someone nuts, I think some disappointment is inevitable if a musician, actor, or athlete, or whatever one likes endorses someone like Dr. Shit For Brains.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:01:37am

re: #160 makeitstop

I’ll wait to see who Crosby endorses. ;)

McGuinn, IIRC, has been drifting towards full-on wingnut status for quite a while now.

I didn’t know that about Roger. I think Dave will join Neil Young for Bernie.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:02:16am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
(But it’s still early, there will be MOAR STUPIDS)

Actually, science AND the bible both reject that life begins at conception. Period.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:02:20am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
(But it’s still early, there will be MOAR STUPIDS)

[Embedded content]

Then wouldn’t that “settle” the Obama birth dispute. After all, he was conceived in Hawaii.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:03:05am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but “using the media to your advantage” isn’t a bad thing in and of itself. Spewing inflammatory lies that incite people to attack others with knives is far beyond “using the media to your advantage”: It’s what has been called “Stochastic Terrorism”. Abbas told lies knowing those lies would trigger attacks in which people would die. That makes him a murderer in my eyes.

Like the GOP spreading lies about Planned Parenthood that will incite attacks against it?

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:03:18am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know that about Roger. I think Dave will join Neil Young for Bernie.

No doubt. Old hippies gotta hippie. :)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:03:46am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

Life begins at conception, period.
Concern ends at birth, period.

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:04:15am

And yes, it should be Medicaid, not Medicare. But the fact remains the GOP is determined to repeal Obamacare by any means necessary, and the GOP hasn’t given up the ghost.

50+ attempts to repeal so far, and they’re no closer to a repeal.

At the same time, uninsured rates have dropped, but the states that would benefit most from the Medicaid expansion have refused to do so - meaning millions of people aren’t getting covered, and the GOP would rather that they don’t get covered.

That’s a cost borne by all taxpayers, and harms the health of those living in those states. Oh, and those states that refused to expand Medicaid also happen to have some of the worst health outcomes anywhere in the nation.

It also ignores that states would end up saving money in the long term as Medicaid expansion would reduce health care costs overall. They’re so concerned with the “fiscal responsibility” that they ignore that they are burdening families with higher health care costs and harms that can be reduced/avoided with insurance coverage.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:04:44am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

By no means is this definitive but it’s a good list of who has endorsed who.

This is pretty interesting. I see Rand has the all-important Alex Jones endorsement.

/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:04:59am

re: #167 makeitstop

No doubt. Old hippies gotta hippie. :)

I know it. The old hippie I know who happily supported Obama is happily supporting Bernie but loves the idea of the first woman president too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:05:25am

re: #170 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is pretty interesting. I see Rand has the all-important Alex Jones endorsement.

/

It will push him over the edge with voters who know the truth about the lizard people’s existence!

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:06:05am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but “using the media to your advantage” isn’t a bad thing in and of itself. Spewing inflammatory lies that incite people to attack others with knives is far beyond “using the media to your advantage”: It’s what has been called “Stochastic Terrorism”. Abbas told lies knowing those lies would trigger attacks in which people would die. That makes him a murderer in my eyes.

Would that be similar to how GW Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the NeoCons told lies that triggered a big war on a sovereign nation that killed lots of people, many innocent?

They used the media, they incited a lot of people to attack.

So, by your measure America is guilty of Stochastic Terrorism…correct?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:06:14am

But looking at that list, Trump seems popular with jocks. So on the disappointment I felt with McQuinn, I felt equally relief seeing that Tom Brady supporting Trump since I’ve never liked Tom Brady that much.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:06:56am

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Had to be done. We’re going to need to have a small force in Afghanistan for the long haul. That country got immense problems that won’t be brought under control in a matter of years; solving them will be the work of decades.

Sadly you are right. If we had spent our time (and lives and money) there rather than diverting into an unneeded and criminal venture into Iraq, we would be much farther ahead in the task.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:06:56am

re: #169 lawhawk

Medicare also is problematic:
Congress and Obama Administration Seek Ways to Limit Increase in Medicare Premiums

WASHINGTON — Congress and the Obama administration are frantically seeking ways to hold down Medicare premiums that could rise by roughly 50 percent for some beneficiaries next year, according to lawmakers and Medicare officials.

The administration has criticized commercial insurance companies for seeking rate increases much smaller than that.

Aides to Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the House Democratic leader, and Speaker John A. Boehner are quietly exploring a possible deal that would limit the expected increase in Medicare premiums.

“Congress has a responsibility to act,” Ms. Pelosi said by email on Monday. “If we do nothing, millions of American seniors will suffer. Democrats continue to press the Republican leadership to bring a fix to the floor so we can prevent the serious harm this increase will have.”

The cost of avoiding such big premium increases, $7.5 billion by some estimates, could be a problem for conservative Republicans. Aides to Mr. Boehner have told Ms. Pelosi’s staff members that the cost would have to be offset by savings elsewhere in the federal budget.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:07:33am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

But looking at that list, Trump seems popular with jocks. So on the disappointment I felt with McQuinn, I felt equally relief seeing that Tom Brady supporting Trump since I’ve never liked Tom Brady that much.

A little surprised to see that Doug Wead, a former advisor to George H.W. Bush, and a religious conservative, has endorsed Rand.

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:07:45am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, cells are alive alright, but they aren’t a human being. Not until much later.

But if he’s so pro-life, how come he’s not willing to do anything about firearms deaths in the 10s of thousands every year? Or wars? Etc.

Or the death penalty.

Or law enforcement excessive force/death of suspects?

Yeah, sounds a whole lot more like anti-choice/pro birth than pro-life.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:07:51am

re: #168 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Life begins at conception, period.
Concern ends at birth, period.

That’s why they spank the baby: “welcome to cruel existence kid; you’re on your own now.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:09:07am

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Had to be done. We’re going to need to have a small force in Afghanistan for the long haul. That country got immense problems that won’t be brought under control in a matter of years; solving them will be the work of decades.

I wonder if a small force is enough.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:09:35am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Like the GOP spreading lies about Planned Parenthood that will incite attacks against it?

Don’t change the subject but some Republicans have told such lies, yes. It would be better to blame the group that has been putting out those dishonest videos, but Carly Fiorina at least has latched onto them even though she should know better.

The main differences so far is that:

1. Those lying videos have not so far gotten someone killed.

2. It has not been shown that those putting out the videos are acting with intent to trigger terrorist attacks.

I have to go, but I’ll try to be back a little later. My dad needs my help while he works to recover from his health crisis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:09:45am

re: #177 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

A little surprised to see that Doug Wead, a former advisor to George H.W. Bush, and a religious conservative, has endorsed Rand.

Rand does have a theocrat streak that you notice when you really listen to him. Doug Weed sounds familiar though. I think I have heard that name before. Perhaps he even endorsed Rand’s father one time and that’s where I saw the name. I follow the endorsements I admit because it’s sorta interesting to me. Another one of note is Gary Hart for O’Malley. O’Malley I read got his start campaigning for Hart but Hart has known the Clintons since Bill and Hillary worked for the McGovern campaign in ‘72 that Hart managed.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:10:27am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
(But it’s still early, there will be MOAR STUPIDS)

I was hoping today would be the day that Steven Crowder found meaningful employment. Life is full of disappointments.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:11:43am

re: #173 ObserverArt

No, that is a different case for another time.For now suffice it to say that whipping up support for a war where you intend to openly attack another government is different than inciting terrorist attacks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:13:01am

re: #178 lawhawk

Oh, cells are alive alright, but they aren’t a human being. Not until much later.

But if he’s so pro-life, how come he’s not willing to do anything about firearms deaths in the 10s of thousands every year? Or wars? Etc.

Or the death penalty.

Or law enforcement excessive force/death of suspects?

Yeah, sounds a whole lot more like anti-choice/pro birth than pro-life.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:13:35am

Don’t lecture us about how pro life you are if you refer to welfare recipients as “animals.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:14:58am

What a surprise. CATO does not like “tax cuts for the poor”

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:15:12am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Don’t change the subject but some Republicans have told such lies, yes. It would be better to blame the group that has been putting out those dishonest videos, but Carly Fiorina at least has latched onto them even though she should know better.

The main differences so far is that:

1. Those lying videos have not so far gotten someone killed.

2. It has not been shown that those putting out the videos are acting with intent to trigger terrorist attacks.

I have to go, but I’ll try to be back a little later. My dad needs my help while he works to recover from his health crisis.

Not going to touch the Stochastic Terrorism of America I mentioned in #173 are you? Figures. Imagine my surprise. You make a good modern conservative.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:16:44am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

1. Those lying videos have not so far gotten someone killed.

That’s rather immaterial.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:17:40am

Donald Tweets a bunch of stupid shit, but this one is fake==>

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:18:06am

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

That’s why they spank the baby: “welcome to cruel existence kid; you’re on your own now.”

And if the doctor is a wingnut: “It’s time to stop mooching off others and start paying your way.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:18:48am

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

No, that is a different case for another time.For now suffice it to say that whipping up support for a war where you intend to openly attack another government is different than inciting terrorist attacks.

Is it? Maybe in your mind you can make that kind of a leap in logic, but it really doesn’t wash.

And here is why. What we did was terrorism too. I am pretty sure the people of the Middle East would see it that way. That is what helps create the AQs and ISIS of the world.

(Frustrated with the duplicitous bullshit)

What bunk.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:18:54am

re: #170 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is pretty interesting. I see Rand has the all-important Alex Jones endorsement.

/

The Dem side pretty interesting, too. Lots of celebrities I didn’t think we’re necessarily liberal.

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:19:23am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

2. It has not been shown that those putting out the videos are acting with intent to trigger terrorist attacks.

Weren’t there two or three cases of arson against PP clinics in the wake of the release of those videos?

Even if the people who dropped those videos didn’t intend to spur terrorist acts, I’m sure it’s a side-effect they’re perfectly happy with.

But I gravitate toward believing that part of their intent was to lead people to attack clinics. But maybe that’s just me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:19:44am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Tweets a bunch of stupid shit, but this one is fake==>

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Which one is the real one for future ref? I pride myself on accuracy.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:19:49am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

How do you know it’s fake?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:20:23am

re: #194 makeitstop

Weren’t there two or three cases of arson against PP clinics in the wake of the release of those videos?

Even if the people who dropped those videos didn’t intend to spur terrorist acts, I’m sure it’s a side-effect they’re perfectly happy with.

But I gravitate toward believing that part of their intent was to lead people to attack clinics. But maybe that’s just me.

Yes, there were and there certainly have been more threats against doctors since the vidoes were released which is exactly what the assholes who made it intended for.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:22:10am

re: #193 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Dem side pretty interesting, too. Lots of celebrities I didn’t think we’re necessarily liberal.

Who came to mind out of curioustiy? My brother’s friend was telling a funny story. They met the year of the 2012 election and this kid was nervous about telling my brother who he supported because a lot of the kids like their parents where we live are staunchly conservative Republican.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:23:01am

re: #196 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

How do you know it’s fake?

I could not find it in @realDonaldTrump’s timeline and he never deletes any Tweets

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:26:14am

Okay I sifted through Bernie’s long list of celeb endorsements. Some of us were e wondering about David Crosby.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:28:18am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Who came to mind out of curioustiy? My brother’s friend was telling a funny story. They met the year of the 2012 election and this kid was nervous about telling my brother who he supported because a lot of the kids like their parents where we live are staunchly conservative Republican.

Harvey Keitel (Clinton), John C Reilly (Sanders), Sean Astin, Daniel Craig (Sanders). Tim McGraw (Clinton). Craig of course isn’t American but…

Some politically liberal actors like Mark Ruffalo and John Cusack are more well known.

And lots of young women who I imagine would be liberal but didn’t know them to be outspoken or active (Kat Dennings, Dianna Agron).

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:29:11am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This example by the Palestinian side is particularly egregious, but both sides know how to play the media to their advantage.

Sorry WZ, I rarely agree with Dark but I challenge you to give me an identical example where the Israeli government (which I loathe for the record) issued a statement/speech which was such a complete and utter lie as part of a deliberate attempt to stoke hatred and incite violence as the Palestinian Authority did in this case.

And as to your claim that both sides play the media to their advantage - as someone who worked indirectly with people who were involved in Israeli “hasbara” efforts as well as with folks from the public information branch of Israel’s foreign ministry ages ago, I can testify as to how BAD they are at using the media - and have been for quite some time.

In fact, if they were any good at all (and you’d think that would be the case in any government where Netanyahu, deemed a PR master at one time, was the presiding leader), the Palestinian side would never have gotten half of the support it’s had since the early 2000s and the days of the Second Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (aka the Second Intifada)…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:30:50am

re: #201 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Harvey Keitel (Clinton), John C Reilly (Sanders), Sean Astin, Daniel Craig (Sanders). Tim McGraw (Clinton). Craig of course isn’t American but…

Some politically liberal actors like Mark Ruffalo and John Cusack are more well known.

And lots of young women who I imagine would be liberal but didn’t know them to be outspoken or active (Kat Dennings, Dianna Agron).

Amanda Palmer! Don’t forget Amanda Palmer!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:31:25am

re: #201 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Harvey Keitel (Clinton), John C Reilly (Sanders), Sean Astin, Daniel Craig (Sanders). Tim McGraw (Clinton). Craig of course isn’t American but…

Some politically liberal actors like Mark Ruffalo and John Cusack are more well known.

And lots of young women who I imagine would be liberal but didn’t know them to be outspoken or active (Kat Dennings, Dianna Agron).

Yeah I see. I know it now but it did surpirse me that DeNiro is such a big liberal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:32:41am

re: #202 Archangelus

I am not applying the MBF here, and this recent Palestinian ploy was particularly egregious. But you supported my point that it is also a media war, neither side hesitates to play the media to their own advantage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:38:06am
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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:41:05am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not looking good for tourism up north this year. :-/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:42:23am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Yeah I see. I know it now but it did surpirse me that DeNiro is such a big liberal.

Yeah, him, too, although I only found that out recently.

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:42:27am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You’re missing my point entirely - Israel never tried to use the media to make their case against the Palestinians the same way the Pals have for more than a decade, and when they do try to ‘play the media’ as you put it, it’s only ever in self-defense, to counter BS such as this (and is rarely effective). This isn’t a media war, as a war implies that both sides are taking offensive measures - which isn’t the case for Israel.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:43:33am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I could use a dryer and warmer winter. I bet you’d like one too Sleuth, after last winter.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:44:31am

re: #208 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah, him, too, although I only found that out recently.

I’ve known that for some time but it was a surpise. I do like him and his work a lot though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:45:12am

re: #210 ObserverArt

I could use a dryer and warmer winter. I bet you’d like one too Sleuth, after last winter.

As someone explained, California will get some much-needed precipitation, but it will be too warm to give them much of the vitally needed snowpack in the Sierras.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:46:45am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As someone explained, California will get some much-needed precipitation, but it will be too warm to give them much of the vitally needed snowpack in the Sierras.

MY brother is really hoping the Sierras get the snow,.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:48:51am

re: #202 Archangelus

Remember when Bibi was up for re-election…

washingtonpost.com

JERUSALEM — Newly reelected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu apologized Monday to Israel’s Arab citizens for an inflammatory comment he made on election day last week.

Netanyahu won a decisive victory in last Tuesday’s parliamentary election, despite pollsters suggesting that his Likud party might face defeat after two terms in power.

In a last-minute election push, Netanyahu warned that unless his supporters went out to vote, his right-wing party could lose because Arabs were heading to polling stations in large numbers.

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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:49:30am

re: #122 sizzzzlerz

Its actually on Amazon Prime. Last I heard, they were planning a second season.

You are correct! I have both and forget who has what sometimes. Thanks!

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:54:44am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

MY brother is really hoping the Sierras get the snow,.

Believe me, it’s more than just your brother!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:56:14am

re: #216 sizzzzlerz

Believe me, it’s more than just your brother!

I know it is. I really hope I can get out there this winter.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:58:27am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We had a thunderstorm last night. Very unusual, the sound & lightening woke my arse up!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:02:36am

re: #218 Stanley Sea Toujours

We had a thunderstorm last night. Very unusual, the sound & lightening woke my arse up!

we had some thunder and lightning in my area. wish we’d get a big thunder storm, I miss those from back east.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:08:13am

WHUT

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:08:13am

re: #214 GlutenFreeJesus

Bad example by far - since when is race-baiting the same as deliberately inciting to commit violence against an entire populace?

Ugly and despicable as that was (and remains), it in no way made an effort to justify violence and incite to harm or kill others - bit of a difference there.

Replace “Arabs” with “African-Americans” and it’s no different than loads of race-baiting bigots in the GOP since 2008 (and I’d wager where Bibi got his inspiration). Bad as it is, race-baiting and playing on fears as part of a political campaign is not the same as deliberately inciting towards violence against an entire population.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:09:54am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

Has anything good come from Missouri since Sam Clemens?

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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:10:04am

re: #164 Dr. Matt

Actually, science AND the bible both reject that life begins at conception. Period.

The “life” issue is diversionary. Yes, an embryo consists of living cells. The issue is personhood. It is not a person and may never become one even without intervention.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:10:40am

re: #222 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You can rule out the Cardinals this year. ;)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:11:25am

re: #214 GlutenFreeJesus

lol challenge accepted and won, and I get a downding.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:12:35am

re: #221 Archangelus

Bad example by far - since when is race-baiting the same as deliberately inciting to commit violence against an entire populace?

Ugly and despicable as that was (and remains), it in no way made an effort to justify violence and incite to harm or kill others - bit of a difference there.

Replace “Arabs” with “African-Americans” and it’s no different than loads of race-baiting bigots in the GOP since 2008 (and I’d wager where Bibi got his inspiration). Bad as it is, race-baiting and playing on fears as part of a political campaign is not the same as deliberately inciting towards violence against an entire population.

Are you serious?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:12:38am

re: #222 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Has anything good come from Missouri since Sam Clemens?

Harry Truman

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A Cranky One  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:13:55am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Don’t change the subject but some Republicans have told such lies, yes. It would be better to blame the group that has been putting out those dishonest videos, but Carly Fiorina at least has latched onto them even though she should know better.

The main differences so far is that:

1. Those lying videos have not so far gotten someone killed.

2. It has not been shown that those putting out the videos are acting with intent to trigger terrorist attacks.

I have to go, but I’ll try to be back a little later. My dad needs my help while he works to recover from his health crisis.

Note that for 1, the group putting out the videos is associated with groups who have encouraged attacks on abortion providers. So it would append “yet” to that claim.

For 2, I think you are simply wrong. The whole “PP is selling babby parts” claim is in fact intended to generate a backlash. Given that the forced-birth groups have a history of attacking PP facilities and personnel, the recent arson attacks on PP facilities aren’t an unexpected result. The videos were intended to inflame groups who have already attempted to force their will upon others via violence and fear. Which is terrorism.

The videos were heavily edited to mislead and distort the truth. What was the purpose, if not to inflame an already volatile situation? And what result could be expected from doing so?

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iossarian  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:15:05am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

That is seriously messed up.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:16:24am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

1. Not these videos specifically, but the group responsible for them sure has incited people to kill abortion doctors.

2. The whole damn point of these videos is to incite people to go kill anyone associated with PP.

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:17:23am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

I would suggest putting women carrying college degrees, raising a family, and running a business. Put some women in uniform as well.

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iossarian  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:18:58am

re: #231 Belafon

I would suggest putting women carrying college degrees, raising a family, and running a business.

Or a man wearing an apron, spatula in one hand, dust-buster in the other.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:19:56am

re: #231 Belafon

I would suggest putting women carrying college degrees, raising a family, and running a business.

That would be fitting and proper - which means it’s inconceivable to conservatives. The call for a memorial is another desperate attempt to get the non-crazy to co-sign RW bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:20:10am

re: #231 Belafon

I would suggest putting women carrying college degrees, raising a family, and running a business. Put some women in uniform as well.

and a memorial to women who died of complications related to childbirth after being denied an abortion…

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:23:54am

Apropos of nothing - I commented on a friend’s Facebook post last night, and this morning I see that someone else commented - a Chuck W. Johnson.

Made me giggle little. Like we need another Chuck Johnson.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:26:25am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hastert Pleads

I am really sick of rich and/or powerful people getting away with shit that would put me in prison for double digit time (me as an old, white woman) and minorities in prison for likely half of their lives - if not more.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:27:33am

Fans of Connie Willis: Bellwether, Kindle edition, is on sale at Amazon for $1.99.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:28:35am

re: #236 WhatEVs

I am really sick of rich and/or powerful people getting away with shit that would put me in prison for double digit time (me as an old, white woman) and minorities in prison for likely half of their lives - if not more.

As we used to say in drag racing, “You can’t beat cubic money.”

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iossarian  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:35:37am

What fun: fracking in Oklahoma is causing earthquakes. What else is in Oklahoma? Just some oil storage facilities (NYT, via Slashdot):

nytimes.com

But I’m sure there are industry experts on hand to tell us there’s nothing to worry about.

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:35:42am

re: #235 makeitstop

Apropos of nothing - I commented on a friend’s Facebook post last night, and this morning I see that someone else commented - a Chuck W. Johnson.

Made me giggle little. Like we need another Chuck Johnson.

The Wikipedia list for Charles Johnson: en.wikipedia.org.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:37:09am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:37:13am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As someone explained, California will get some much-needed precipitation, but it will be too warm to give them much of the vitally needed snowpack in the Sierras.

Yeah. I feel bad for California. But, being in Ohio, it would be a bit of a relief to get a winter that isn’t quite as harsh as last year and then year before.

Now, if we could only figure out a way to send some of our snow/rain to California to help out!

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Skip Intro  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:38:47am

OK, who stole David Brooks’ brain? He makes complete sense here.

The Republicans’ Incompetence Caucus

The House Republican caucus is close to ungovernable these days. How did this situation come about?

This was not just the work of the Freedom Caucus or Ted Cruz or one month’s activity. The Republican Party’s capacity for effective self-governance degraded slowly, over the course of a long chain of rhetorical excesses, mental corruptions and philosophical betrayals. Basically, the party abandoned traditional conservatism for right-wing radicalism. Republicans came to see themselves as insurgents and revolutionaries, and every revolution tends toward anarchy and ends up devouring its own.

By traditional definitions, conservatism stands for intellectual humility, a belief in steady, incremental change, a preference for reform rather than revolution, a respect for hierarchy, precedence, balance and order, and a tone of voice that is prudent, measured and responsible. Conservatives of this disposition can be dull, but they know how to nurture and run institutions. They also see the nation as one organic whole. Citizens may fall into different classes and political factions, but they are still joined by chains of affection that command ultimate loyalty and love.

All of this has been overturned in dangerous parts of the Republican Party. Over the past 30 years, or at least since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene, the Republican rhetorical tone has grown ever more bombastic, hyperbolic and imbalanced. Public figures are prisoners of their own prose styles, and Republicans from Newt Gingrich through Ben Carson have become addicted to a crisis mentality. Civilization was always on the brink of collapse. Every setback, like the passage of Obamacare, became the ruination of the republic. Comparisons to Nazi Germany became a staple.

nytimes.com

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:39:05am

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

What a surprise. CATO does not like “tax cuts for the poor”

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Small benefits to them…large benefits to those struggling to eat.

Assholes!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:39:22am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Yeah. I feel bad for California. But, being in Ohio, it would be a bit of a relief to get a winter that isn’t quite as harsh as last year and then year before.

Now, if we could only figure out a way to send some of our snow/rain to California to help out!

So California will get a brief respite from its drought problems, but the basic problem will remain, and I fear they will be even slower in taking steps to deal with it.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:40:04am

re: #193 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Dem side pretty interesting, too. Lots of celebrities I didn’t think we’re necessarily liberal.

And maybe weren’t before the GOP went insane. Which celebs are you referring to?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:40:30am

re: #240 Belafon

The Wikipedia list for Charles Johnson: en.wikipedia.org.

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

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iossarian  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:40:35am

re: #243 Skip Intro

Establishment conservatives just can’t figure out why the crazies won’t accept their diet of stale crusts under the table any more.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:40:36am

re: #242 ObserverArt

The forecast’s use of “Wetter” gave me a chuckle. If it gets much more dry here in SoCal the place will look like Nazca. Wetter would be .1”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:40:41am
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Timothy Watson  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:41:27am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

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The wisdom of Solomon, y’all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:42:13am

re: #246 WhatEVs

And maybe weren’t before the GOP went insane. Which celebs are you referring to?

People are starting to wake up and realize that we cannot take any of the advances we have made over the past five decades in personal freedoms, or women’s, LGBT and minority rights for granted. There are plenty of folks in the GOP who want to turn back the clock in the name of “getting their country back”.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:42:13am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, but he says it in such a kindly grandpa “aw-shucks” way that it’s ok.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:43:53am

re: #253 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, but he says it in such a kindly grandpa “aw-shucks” way that it’s ok.

Exodus!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:44:23am

So, this guy is following me. I won’t follow back because fuck this guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:45:04am

In fact a Twitter bio like that is just screaming BLOCK MY ASS NOW!!!!!!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:46:19am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So California will get a brief respite from its drought problems, but the basic problem will remain, and I fear they will be even slower in taking steps to deal with it.

The basic problem is that 42% of California’s water is used for agriculture. Homes use a total of 6%. Californians cut urban water use by 27% in June. If the rest of ya’ll want to start growing your own fruits, nuts and vegetables we’ll have plenty of water.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:46:32am

He’s following me because I retweeted this==>

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:48:19am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

He’s following me because I retweeted this==>

He thinks that’s a good thing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:49:30am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

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Man that Mickelson dude is truly messed up. Huckabee too. And I just have to laugh my ass off at the stupid claim that progressives have hijacked the justice system. Not even close.

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:49:59am

re: #257 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The basic problem is that 42% of California’s water is used for agriculture. Homes use a total of 6%. Californians cut urban water use by 27% in June. If the rest of ya’ll want to start growing your own fruits, nuts and vegetables we’ll have plenty of water.

Why would the southern states want to do that? That would put people to work which might give them enough power to elect people they want to office.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:50:10am

Scratch a conservative, reveal an authoritarian power hungry dickwad.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:50:21am

Drive-by comment:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:51:10am

re: #263 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment:

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Novice move. I hope it fucks him up since the man is crazy as fuck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:52:06am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Novice move. I hope it fucks him up since the man is crazy as fuck.

It will not hurt him, at least not in the eyes of the current GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:53:29am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It will not hurt him, at least not in the eyes of the current GOP.

We shall see but I think it will hurt his campaign.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:55:09am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

We shall see but I think it will hurt his campaign.

The thing that does the most damage to his campaign is having him as the candidate. He’ll be an asterisk soon enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:55:34am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

We shall see but I think it will hurt his campaign.

Look what Trump has gotten away with…this GOP is a topsy-turvy world where no conventional rules apply.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:56:30am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Look what Trump has gotten away with…this GOP is a topsy-turvy world where no conventional rules apply.

I was thinking more about this slowing his campaign down.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:57:00am

re: #267 It’s on his hat!

The thing that does the most damage to his campaign is having him as the candidate. He’ll be an asterisk soon enough.

There will be a new flavor of the month soon enough yes.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:59:20am

re: #261 Belafon

Why would the southern states want to do that? That would put people to work which might give them enough power to elect people they want to office.

Excellent point. The pols from those states are usually the first to bloviate about “California’s illegal immigrant problem.” Despite advances in farm mechanization, it still requires thousands of people to ensure the harvests. “California’s illegal immigrant problem,” is that we’re precluded by federal law from being able to give many of those workers a rational way to either become US citizens or to legally enter the US for seasonal/temporary work.

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Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:59:31am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

So, this guy is following me. I won’t follow back because fuck this guy.

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I block anyone with a twitter bio like that.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:00:40am
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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:00:41am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

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Whenever I think this guy can’t shock me anymore, I find myself surprised all over again…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:00:47am

re: #272 Kragar

I block anyone with a twitter bio like that.

I’ve never had to block anyone on Twitter.
I’ve never had an account.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:01:30am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Man that Mickelson dude is truly messed up. Huckabee too. And I just have to laugh my ass off at the stupid claim that progressives have hijacked the justice system. Not even close.

Mickelson, that name is familiar. Is that the same radio talkhole who said slavery was A Good Thing?

Why yes. Yes he is!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:01:46am

re: #275 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’ve never had to block anyone on Twitter.
I’ve never had an account.

This site has done a lot to remove any interest I might have had into even looking into joining Twitter.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:02:09am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

So, this guy is following me. I won’t follow back because fuck this guy.

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He doesn’t list Tea Party. RINO

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:02:17am

re: #272 Kragar

I block anyone with a twitter bio like that.

That’s a wise decision. I’ll wait until he fucks up my mentions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:02:28am

re: #274 Archangelus

Whenever I think this guy can’t shock me anymore, I find myself surprised all over again…

He may be honestly be the most loatsome individual running for president on the GOP side, that’s a feat in itself.

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:04:23am

re: #243 Skip Intro

OK, who stole David Brooks’ brain? He makes complete sense here.

The Republicans’ Incompetence Caucus

nytimes.com

And Driftglass calls him right out.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:04:26am

re: #243 Skip Intro

OK, who stole David Brooks’ brain? He makes complete sense here.

The Republicans’ Incompetence Caucus

All of this has been overturned in dangerous parts of the Republican Party. Over the past 30 years, or at least since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene, the Republican rhetorical tone has grown ever more bombastic, hyperbolic and imbalanced.

Exactly what I have been saying. Right wing propaganda is ruining an entire party. They bought it, they broke it, they own it.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:04:33am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This site has done a lot to remove any interest I might have had into even looking into joining Twitter.

Usenet did that for me in advance. New medium, same old shit.

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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:04:42am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Mickelson, that name is familiar. Is that the same radio talkhole who said slavery was A Good Thing?

Why yes. Yes he is!

Was just wondering that, figured the likelihood of there being two different Mickelsons being that insane/evil/stupid wasn’t that high…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:04:49am

re: #263 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment:

Republican presidential contender Dr. Ben Carson has put his public campaign events on hold for two more weeks to go on book tour for his new tome “A More Perfect Union” and catch up on fundraising events.

Pretty sure this latest “book” is the same one as his previous one, and the same as one before that, just a different title, some chapters rearranged.

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makeitstop  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:05:25am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

Same age as me! That ain’t old. :)

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:05:54am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

Ouch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:05:55am

re: #285 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Pretty sure this latest “book” is the same one as his previous one, and the same as one before that, just a different title, some chapters rearranged.

That’s how nearly every political book is. Just updated for new targets to hate.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:06:15am

re: #243 Skip Intro

Brooks just noticed this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:07:24am

RICHMOND — Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe is outlawing the open carry of guns in some state-owned building and pushing for tighter gun control measures.

McAuliffe signed an executive order Thursday at the Capitol setting up a task force aimed at more robust prosecution of gun crimes. The order also establishes a statewide tip line to report gun crimes, and orders state police to request a trace of every gun involved in a crime in Virginia.

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Jenner7  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:07:28am

Hi all.

Heard Obama is keeping troops in Afghanistan until 2017. Sigh. We need to get out of there now. Meanwhile, I was listening to Rush while grocery shopping. That guy is a real piece of work, attacking Obama for this decision. Conservatives have completely forgotten what they believe in because they are too busy attacking Obama 24/7.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:07:44am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

That’s how nearly every political book is. Just updated for new targets to hate.

But “I’ve got take time off from my campaign to grift my precious book and oh by the way this political book of mine is completely unrelated to my political campaign.”

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:07:48am

re: #263 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment:

ICYMI: Ben Carson Puts Public Campaign Events on Hold for 2 Weeks

If Carson had any brains (which he doesn’t), he’d put it on hold until about a month before the election. Then he wouldn’t have as many chances to be outted as the ignoramus he is.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:08:02am

re: #263 CuriousLurker

…his new tome “A More Perfect Union”…

Had I been present at the creation, I would have given some useful hints for the better ordering of the universe.

- Alfonso the Wise

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:08:40am

re: #293 WhatEVs

If Carson had any brains (which he doesn’t), he’d put it on hold until about a month before the election. Then he wouldn’t have as many chances to be outted as the ignoramus he is.

Maybe he’ll forget about the campaign while he’s doing his book tour and not remember to go back to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:09:31am

re: #291 Jenner7

Hi all.

Conservatives have completely forgotten what they believe in because they are too busy attacking Obama 24/7.

Conservatives believe in attacking Obama 24/7

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Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:09:32am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:09:48am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m not a Terry fan at all but I like this. Good man.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:10:10am

re: #292 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But “I’ve got take time off from my campaign to grift my precious book and oh by the way this political book of mine is completely unrelated to my political campaign.”

Seriously what a joke.

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lawhawk  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:10:28am

re: #281 makeitstop

Arguably, it isn’t an incompetent caucus, but a fraudulent one. Their goals are clear - to destroy government. Anyone who stands in their way, including those GOPers who understand that politics and governance is the art of compromise, is the enemy. They’ve decided that sabotage is the method, even when they can’t achieve their goals.

And each iteration becomes more extreme in their demands even as the ability to obtain the outcome sought becomes more remote.

The fraud is that they are perpetuating this over the past few years by claiming that if only a few more GOPers fell in with them, they’d achieve all of their goals.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:10:38am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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Planned Parenthood should respond by insisting Missouri should first remove monuments and places named for an actual, factual racial terrorist.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:11:50am

re: #291 Jenner7

Had he taken them out instead (like he should), Oxycontinbaugh would be the first to call him weak on terror.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:13:10am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:13:28am

re: #297 Kragar

In Chuckles v. Gawker, judge gives Chuckles until tomorrow to file his responses, “No further extensions of time to respond will be granted”

Judicial Activist Activism Judges!!!!!!1111

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:13:44am

re: #301 Pawn of the Oppressor

Or build a monument for all women in MO who died of cancer that couldn’t get screenings from PP because of these nutbag Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:14:32am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. People like him should be afraid of Bernie’s ideas because it means a guy like Trump won’t be able to just coast just because he’s rich.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:15:06am
Click to Reveal

The last 2 minutes of last night’s SP episode consisted of a snappy song about restaurant workers putting “Boogers ‘n’ Cum” in customers food

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:15:52am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did someone wake up Jeb! so he could watch the Dem debate?

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CleverToad  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:16:39am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

{{DF}} Sending good thoughts for you and your dad

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:18:44am

re: #291 Jenner7

Hi all.

Heard Obama is keeping troops in Afghanistan until 2017. Sigh. We need to get out of there now. Meanwhile, I was listening to Rush while grocery shopping. That guy is a real piece of work, attacking Obama for this decision. Conservatives have completely forgotten what they believe in because they are too busy attacking Obama 24/7.

RUsh has no real ideology. He’s anti-Democrat and the base loves him for it.

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Jenner7  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:18:55am

Sigh….

Really guys?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:19:45am

re: #291 Jenner7

Hi all.

Heard Obama is keeping troops in Afghanistan until 2017. Sigh. We need to get out of there now. Meanwhile, I was listening to Rush while grocery shopping. That guy is a real piece of work, attacking Obama for this decision. Conservatives have completely forgotten what they believe in because they are too busy attacking Obama 24/7.

So Rusty thinks: 1) We should have Yooooge number more troops in Afgh; 2) We shouldn’t have any troops in Afgh; 3) We should just nuke Afgh; 4) Obama needs to do something about Afgh; 5) Obama needs to not do something about Afgh?

All of the above?

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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:20:02am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

Heh, he’s a youngster. Exactly one month to the day younger than I am.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:20:35am

re: #311 Jenner7

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Sigh….

Really guys?

Polls are a tool for interpreting the outcome of events and helping to predict future outcomes.

But we all want miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results thirteen months in advance.

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Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:20:45am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:21:32am

re: #311 Jenner7

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Sigh….

Really guys?

Yeah I have seen this. They’re using the online polls which are so easy to rig as proof their man won. I haven’t wached yet so I won’t say Bernie defintely won or lost but thats lame.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:22:05am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

Oh…now you’ve done it!

(I’m younger by one year)

: )

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:22:14am

re: #312 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So Rusty thinks: 1) We should have Yooooge number more troops in Afgh; 2) We shouldn’t have any troops in Afgh; 3) We should just nuke Afgh; 4) Obama needs to do something about Afgh; 5) Obama needs to not do something about Afgh?

All of the above?

EAsy, Obama should do the oppposite of what he did until he does it in which case, he sould to hte opposite of that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:22:31am

re: #247 Timothy Watson

Heh, I didn’t realize that our esteemed host is old as he is.

Whut about Chuck C Johnson, award-winning journalist?!?!?!??!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:22:33am

re: #315 Kragar

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Abbott’s a wanker.

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CleverToad  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:24:13am

re: #237 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thanks for the heads-up!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:25:38am
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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:25:56am

re: #263 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment:

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Does that mean he will not be in the debate on the 28th?

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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:26:14am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

I was thinking more about this slowing his campaign down.

Looks to me as though he’s still campaigning, just giving it another name, I.e. book hawking (appears to be a book about government) and fund raising. How is that not campaigning?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:26:28am

The judge is obviously at the end of his patience.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:26:43am
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Archangelus  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:26:49am

ThinkProgress: Second GOP Congressman Admits Benghazi Committee Was ‘Designed To Go After’ Clinton

A second House Republican has now conceded that the overarching purpose of the House Select Committee on Benghazi has been to attack former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In September, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) argued that one of House Republicans’ successes has been using the Benghazi Committee to drive down Clinton’s poll numbers. Though McCarthy tried to walk back his controversial comments, Rep. Richard Hanna (R-NY) argued on Wednesday that the Majority Leader had it right to begin with.

“Sometimes the biggest sin you can commit in D.C. is to tell the truth,” Hanna said in an interview on Keeler in the Morning, a radio show in upstate New York. The third-term congressman paused for a moment, perhaps recognizing the importance of what he was about to say, before going on to agree with McCarthy’s original statement.

“This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton,” Hanna said.

Expect GOP comments soon on how his words were taken out of context (as in “dude, you weren’t supposed to say that out loud!”)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:27:20am

re: #315 Kragar

Nerf guns and water guns are banned at two Texas universities that allow students to have real guns

Because you cannot stop a tyrant with a Nerf gun!!!

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Belafon  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:27:59am

re: #311 Jenner7

Sigh….

Really guys?

Danielle is right about it being about unskewing the polls, but she’s got the side wrong. If you need to resort to online polling to justify your stance, you’re argument is pretty weak.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:28:35am

re: #327 Archangelus

ThinkProgress: Second GOP Congressman Admits Benghazi Committee Was ‘Designed To Go After’ Clinton

Expect GOP comments soon on how his words were taken out of context (as in “dude, you weren’t supposed to say that out loud!”)

That’s not political correctness, that’s your party being pathetic dicks exploiting a tragedy to ruin an individual’s credibility.

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ObserverArt  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:29:13am

re: #291 Jenner7

Hi all.

Heard Obama is keeping troops in Afghanistan until 2017. Sigh. We need to get out of there now. Meanwhile, I was listening to Rush while grocery shopping. That guy is a real piece of work, attacking Obama for this decision. Conservatives have completely forgotten what they believe in because they are too busy attacking Obama 24/7.

In Rush’s case don’t forget part of his issues is a drug-addled brain. What’s left of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:31:00am

hey Dr Lizardo!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:32:34am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Dr Lizardo!

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Our cousins are awesome.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:33:45am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOL. I’ve never seen those signs in my neck of the woods, but to be sure, everyone here pretty much just takes a wizz whenever and wherever the urge strikes them. I’ve even seen beat cops do it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:33:46am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Dr Lizardo!

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Why is it I see this backfiring?

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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:33:54am

re: #311 Jenner7

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Sigh….

Really guys?

I saw an online poll (I think I posted it a few threads back) that had Webb with 96% of the vote before the tampering was dealt with.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:34:19am

re: #336 It’s on his hat!

I saw an online poll (I think I posted it a few threads back) that had Webb with 96% of the vote before the tampering was dealt with.

Drudge?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:35:20am
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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:35:29am

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

Why is it I see this backfiring?

Not backfiring, exactly…it’ll just pee back on you.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:35:40am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those piss cops play hardball, man!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:35:54am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:36:12am

re: #334 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL. I’ve never seen those signs in my neck of the woods, but to be sure, everyone here pretty much just takes a wizz whenever and wherever the urge strikes them. I’ve even seen beat cops do it.

You gotta go, Musíš jít

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:37:00am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:37:22am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Funny because R’s think massive military buildups and border fences just pay for themselves.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:37:30am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Couldn’t be the same outfit that was bitching when Michelle Obama advocated healthy eating.

346
It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:38:26am

re: #337 Blind Frog Belly White

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:38:57am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

You gotta go, Musíš jít

Yep; that’s pretty much the prevailing attitude.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:39:06am

re: #345 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Couldn’t be the same outfit that was bitching when Michelle Obama advocated healthy eating.

That was my tougth too heh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:39:12am

re: #345 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Couldn’t be the same outfit that was bitching when Michelle Obama advocated healthy eating.

So call bullshit “vegetables” and make people pay for it?

There’s one born every minute.

350
Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:39:49am
351
Timothy Watson  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:40:23am

re: #311 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Sigh….

Really guys?

Hate to say it, but Bernie supporters are reminding me more and more of the Paulbots of yesteryear.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:40:46am

re: #346 It’s on his hat!

littlegreenfootballs.com

I saw one just like that the other night that had Webb at like 250K votes while the others were in the hundreds.

353
HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:40:57am

re: #347 Dr Lizardo

Yep; that’s pretty much the prevailing attitude.

Reminds me, I had a great Czech dinner on SAturday night. Don’t know how strict yo uare in your religious beliefs but Kneldo, Vero, Zelo is waesome.

354
Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:40:58am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:41:51am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

So call bullshit “vegetables” and make people pay for it?

There’s one born every minute.

Make people pay for it? HA! All their economic plans consist of tax cuts.

356
HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:42:08am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

Hate to say it, but Bernie supporters are reminding me more and more of the Paulbots of yesteryear.

IT’s true. and it’s too bad because I really do like and admire Bernie but the over-zealousness of his supporters is his worst enemy.

357
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:42:51am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

So call bullshit “vegetables” and make people pay for it?

There’s one born every minute.

Not surprising, considering that vaporware is touted as “plans.”

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It's on his hat!  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:42:53am

re: #352 WhatEVs

I saw one just like that the other night that had Webb at like 250K votes while the others were in the hundreds.

Might have been the same one. They “fixed” the “tampering” overnight after 4chan or whomever was messing with it. Webb was racking up thousands of votes per second.

359
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:43:04am

re: #355 Blind Frog Belly White

Make POOR people pay for it? HA! All their economic plans consist of tax cuts.

ftfy

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:43:12am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Reminds me, I had a great Czech dinner on SAturday night. Don’t know how strict yo uare in your religious beliefs but Kneldo, Vero, Zelo is waesome.

VepřoKnedloZelo is indeed great; I’ve had it before, many years ago. It’s sort of the unofficial national dish. Usually washed down with a beer.

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:43:50am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

Hate to say it, but Bernie supporters are reminding me more and more of the Paulbots of yesteryear.

I disagree. I think all of us support our candidates. Some of us (like me) will vote for virtually anything with a D after their name since the GOP is totally insane, but for Bernie, look at his passion for what he speaks about. I think his passion is equaled by his supporters.

You can say the same for Trump and Cruz. They are both passionately kinda nuts, and so are their ardent followers.

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allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:44:13am

re: #360 Dr Lizardo

VeproKnedloŽelo is indeed great; I’ve had it before, many years ago. It’s sort of the unofficial national dish. Usually washed down with a beer.

What is it?

363
HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:44:20am

re: #360 Dr Lizardo

VeproKnedloŽelo is indeed great; I’ve had it before, many years ago. It’s sort of the unofficial national dish. Usually washed down with a beer.

Yep that’s what I did. What a great surprise to find a Czech restaurant on Florida Avenue!

364
Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:45:08am

re: #362 allegro

What is it?

It’s this: Image: j58898.jpg

Pork, dumplings and sauerkraut.

365
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:45:48am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

Hate to say it, but Bernie supporters are reminding me more and more of the Paulbots of yesteryear.

Hippies get tired of being punched too.

366
Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:46:07am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

Yep that’s what I did. What a great surprise to find a Czech restaurant on Florida Avenue!

Sweet. I recall a Czech food cart up in Portland, OR a long, long time ago, before I came to live here. Good food, and quite reasonably priced.

367
Mike Lamb  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:46:57am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Dems: here’s a book on growing vegetables and some folks that can teach you to apply that knowledge.

Repubs: I’ve got vegetables for sale. $20 for a basket, with a national sales tax of 10%. My costs run about $0.50 per basket, because I’ve outlawed unions and the minimum wage. And you gay people don’t even think of buying from me. No gay veggie trays.

368
Franklin  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:46:58am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

h/t to @DemFromCT (tweet embedded upthread)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:47:20am

re: #362 allegro

What is it?

Pork with sauerkraut, red cabbage, and bread dumplings. It was the perfect meal for meoal that night since I did a bit of of drinkings.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:48:52am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

Hate to say it, but Bernie supporters are reminding me more and more of the Paulbots of yesteryear.

Someone, I forget who, said yesterday that if you support Clinton, you think she won. If you support Sanders, HE won. I’d say they both turned in solid performances and, as the pundits LOVE to say, “Did what they needed to do”. Who “won”? Does that matter?

I like Josh Marshall’s take. I’m finding myself saying that more and more these days.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:48:55am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

Sweet. I recall a Czech food cart up in Portland, OR a long, long time ago, before I came to live here. Good food, and quite reasonably priced.

Yeah his was great and close to the venue.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:49:11am

re: #361 WhatEVs

I disagree. I think all of us support our candidates. Some of us (like me) will vote for virtually anything with a D after their name since the GOP is totally insane, but for Bernie, look at his passion for what he speaks about. I think his passion is equaled by his supporters.

You can say the same for Trump and Cruz. They are both passionately kinda nuts, and so are their ardent followers.

Well, the Paulbots were pretty damn passionate, and they loved their online polls.

A lot of them also excelled about being condescending to people that might agree with them on 75%+ of stuff and some of the writings from Bernie’s supporters on other websites make me want to headdesk.

373
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:50:36am

re: #368 Franklin

h/t to @DemFromCT (tweet embedded upthread)

[Embedded content]

There is actually a video of Donald Trump pounding on somebody in a WWE “Battle of the BIllionaires”

Donald Trump bodyslams, beats and shaves Vince McMahon at Wrestlemania XXIII

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:50:55am

Sauerkraut is actually used a lot in Czech and Slovak cooking. t’s not just the Germans. It’s not for everyone but I love kraut.

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Kragar  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:51:23am

Of course, it could also be zero

376
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:52:14am

heh

A Republican National Committee conference call to discuss planning for the Oct. 28 GOP debate with top advisers to the presidential campaigns spiraled into chaos on Thursday afternoon, as Donald Trump threatened to pull out of the debate if his demands for the format are not met.

On the call, according to three sources who were also on the line, Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager, said that if the debate does not include opening or closing statements and is longer than two hours total, including commercial breaks, the real estate mogul would have to reconsider his participation.

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gwangung  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:52:18am

re: #361 WhatEVs

I disagree. I think all of us support our candidates. Some of us (like me) will vote for virtually anything with a D after their name since the GOP is totally insane, but for Bernie, look at his passion for what he speaks about. I think his passion is equaled by his supporters.

You can say the same for Trump and Cruz. They are both passionately kinda nuts, and so are their ardent followers.

There’s passion….and then there’s assholishness. I’ve observed a lot of assholishness among some white Sanders supporters. It gets called out by POC Sanders supporters, but it doesn’t seem to sink in.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:53:03am

re: #375 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Of course, it could also be zero

Lol that would mean 90% don’t want you Rand as opposed to 95%.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:53:12am

Meanwhile, ninja bear.

i.imgur.com

Bryan Fischer’s gonna have a stroke when he sees that.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:53:28am

re: #367 Mike Lamb

Dems: here’s a book on growing vegetables and some folks that can teach you to apply that knowledge.

Repubs: I’ve got vegetables for sale. $20 for a basket, with a national sales tax of 10%. My costs run about $0.50 per basket, because I’ve outlawed unions and the minimum wage. And you gay people don’t even think of buying from me. No gay veggie trays.

I forgot the part where the Repub selling the veggies inherited his farm from his father…

381
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:53:44am

re: #375 Kragar

Of course, it could also be zero

Never mind these polls, My actual support is really HOOOOOOGEEE

382
Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:53:51am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Sauerkraut is actually used a lot in Czech and Slovak cooking. t’s not just the Germans. It’s not for everyone but I love kraut.

Same here. It’s good stuff.

383
Franklin  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:54:08am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

There is actually a video of Donald Trump pounding on somebody in a WWE “Battle of the BIllionaires”

[Embedded content]

Video

Which just goes to show two things:

1) Trump is an entertainer, nothing more.

2) Wrestling is fake, Vince McMahon would destroy Trump.

384
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:54:14am

re: #380 Mike Lamb

I forgot the part where the Repub selling the veggies inherited his farm from his father…

harvested by overworked, underpaid migrant workers…

385
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:54:44am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Republican National Committee conference call to discuss planning for the Oct. 28 GOP debate with top advisers to the presidential campaigns spiraled into chaos on Thursday

Local stores reporting popcorn shortages nationwide…..

386
HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:55:45am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Same here. It’s good stuff.

So so good with Kolasi(Kielbasa)

387
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:55:49am

Jeb! is running out of money

388
HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:57:02am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb! is running out of money

[Embedded content]

He has all his father’ and brother’s weaknesses but none of their strengths.

389
allegro  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:57:43am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

harvested by overworked, underpaid migrant workers…

Who are arrested and deported when the last tomato is picked.

390
Jenner7  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:58:41am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

One of my favorite meals. MMm, I’ll have to put it on my menu next week.

391
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:59:01am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb! is running out of money

[Embedded content]

There was mention that some of his donors are giving him a limited time to turn his numbers around. This may be belt tightening in the face of the inevitable.

392
Jenner7  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:59:11am
393
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:00:19am

re: #375 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Of course, it could also be zero

Heh.

When looking for HIV vaccine efficacy years ago, the goal was for the 95% CI to exclude zero.

394
Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:01:20am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

So so good with Kolasi(Kielbasa)

Frequently, it’s served quite simply, like this:

Image: 1280px-Klob%C3%A1sa,_ho%C5%99%C4%8Dice,_chl%C3%A9b.jpg

395
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:01:35am

STUPID GUNFUCKING MEME==>

SAME MEME, REPURPOSED==>

396
BlueSpotinAL  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:01:51am

re: #326 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Brain Man!

397
Jebediah, RBG  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:03:05am

re: #257 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And it appears that Gov. Brown takes it seriously and is spending some significant money to deal with the issue.
And for sure there are things grown in CA that would be better grown elsewhere, e.g. cows.

398
WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:03:11am

re: #372 Timothy Watson

Well, the Paulbots were pretty damn passionate, and they loved their online polls.

A lot of them also excelled about being condescending to people that might agree with them on 75%+ of stuff and some of the writings from Bernie’s supporters on other websites make me want to headdesk.

Maybe it’s because I think Bernie is passionate about the right things. Perhaps had Paul (either) been passionate about the right things I may have felt the same way. I still support Hillary…but I think Bernie is right on a lot of things and I hope that he keeps going strongly since we need to do something about the middle class because there is no economy without a strong middle class.

As for online polls…nothing else needs to be said. They are bogus and any idiot can make a poll say what they want. Get any traffic at all and, boomf, complete and total bullshit.

399
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:04:31am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

A gun in the hand is worth the entire police force on the phone.

as long as you have the gun loaded, cocked and pointed at any and all potential assailants at all times…

400
iossarian  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:05:22am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

The meme doesn’t even make sense in the first place. Are there really people who would choose living in a country with no functioning law enforcement over Western Europe?

401
A Cranky One  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:06:22am

re: #391 Higgs Boson’s Mate

There was mention that some of his donors are giving him a limited time to turn his numbers around. This may be belt tightening in the face of the inevitable.

Jeb!’s campaign is brain dead and should be allowed to die. Maybe the governor of Florida, the Florida legislature, and the Congress and Terri Shiavo’s parents should intervene and demand that he keeps his campaign alive no matter the circumstances.

///////

402
Timothy Watson  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:07:22am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

STUPID GUNFUCKING MEME==>

[Embedded content]

I guess I shouldn’t bother to point out that Eliza Dushku is a pretty big feminist, and despite being a Mormon, her mom is the head of a feminist-Mormon organization (the actress herself left the church because of its stance on gays)?
jezebel.com

403
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:07:27am

re: #400 iossarian

The meme doesn’t even make sense in the first place. Are there really people who would choose living in a country with no functioning law enforcement over Western Europe?

Oh, you know, it’s the old thing of having to have a loaded gun within easy reach at all times, or you’ll be robbed, raped, and killed by a big black “urban” guy.

404
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:08:17am

re: #400 iossarian

The meme doesn’t even make sense in the first place. Are there really people who would choose living in a country with no functioning law enforcement over Western Europe?

It’s just gun porno, doesn’t need to make sense, just something for a gunfucker to jack off to.

405
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:10:41am

A lot of gunfucking memes are promos of actresses posing with guns from a movie scene, in a situation that has nothing to do with actual gun use in real life (the photo of Summer Glau from “Terminator” firing a pistol in each hand is a popular meme)

406
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:12:09am

re: #397 Jebediah, RBG

California remains in the top five states for all cattle and calf production. That makes little sense. Alfalfa and pasture take second and third place in agricultural water usage here.

407
Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:12:33am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

It’s just gun porno, doesn’t need to make sense, just something for a gunfucker to jack off to.

I’d argue that it makes sense to those who live in fear of imminent home invasion, rape and murder by black men and illegal immigrants, or beheading by MOOOOZlimz, after years of being told on Fox News and by the NRA that violent crime is out of control, rather than falling for the last 20 years, and that ISIS is coming to your town.

408
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:13:26am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

as long as you have the gun loaded, cocked and pointed at any and all potential assailants at all times…

Seen fellas shot dead with the barrel of their automatic weapon still smoking.

409
Jenner7  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:13:38am

Health Department warned Governor against cutting Planned Parenthood funds

SALT LAKE CITY — The state health department warned Gov. Gary Herbert that cutting funds for Planned Parenthood of Utah would be a bad idea and put some residents’ health at risk.

Among those reasons were that 4,400 patients would not receive STD testing, leading to long-term issues such as pelvic inflammatory disease and infertility, and that 3,725 people with chlamydia or gonorrhea and their partners would not receive treatment.

ksl.com

More incompetence from my Governor. They did this in Indiana and had an HIV outbreak.

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:18:01am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

A lot of gunfucking memes are promos of actresses posing with guns from a movie scene, in a situation that has nothing to do with actual gun use in real life (the photo of Summer Glau from “Terminator” firing a pistol in each hand is a popular meme)

In all of them, the woman is dressed like a Victoria Secret model. It really is lame. Really it’s porn for people who are too chickenshit to beat off to the real thing.

411
GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:23:50am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Just his way of stroking himself. Watch them all beg for him to stay in the debate, or if he doesn’t appear, ratings will plummet, and he will be bragging about it either way.

412
GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:25:58am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

413
Jebediah, RBG  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:33:59am

re: #406 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I do wonder if this drought is bad enough to get some of that production moved elsewhere. I imagine relocating that stuff might be such a pain in the ass that maybe another Dust Bowl would have to happen first.
I have no idea how much it would cost to have de-sal plants provide the majority of our agricultural water - maybe two, three orders of magnitude more than what is do-able?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:39:12am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because you cannot stop a tyrant with a Nerf gun!!!

/

You need water balloons. The little, green hand grenade ones.


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