Overnight Weirdness: “Belly”

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I can feel you in my Belly

Credits:

A film by: Julia Pott
Production: Royal College of Art
Sound Design: Joseph Tate
Animation Assistance: Robin Bushell
Eammon O’Neill
Ben Cady
Stephen Middleton
Theo Nunn
Voices: Olivia Gurney Randall
Cornelius Clarke
Joseph Tate
Robert Blythe
Laurence Weedy

Supported by: Passion Pictures

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465 comments
1
Lidane  Oct 15, 2015 • 8:57:59pm

This is awesome. I’m definitely starting to Feel the Bern:

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:04:53pm

re: #1 Lidane

That motherfucker is better off voting Republican, they best represent his interests. Dude is not only overly greedy and heartless, he’s fucking dumb as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:12:02pm

So I’m baking up a fresh batch of memes for the next GOP debate and now those fuckers are thinking about canceling it and Photoshop CC be acting all glitchy as fuck under El Capitan.

So angry.

4
bratwurst  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:16:09pm
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plansbandc  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:16:45pm

The final four baseball teams are all blue. IT’S A SIGN!!!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:21:33pm

re: #4 bratwurst

Tweet doesn’t exist anymore, link isn’t live.

So angry.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:24:13pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Fortunately still up in Spy:

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WhatEVs  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:24:14pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

You’re having an bad night, eh?

I say whip up that batch of GOP crazy. It’ll make all of us feel better. And your guaranteed to be able to use it. It’s not like the GOP crazy train is stopping anytime soon.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:24:20pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:28:12pm

LOLGOP has blocked me. Can we send them to the moon prison?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:30:12pm

I think I figured it out. If your Mac has an Nvidia graphics card disable OpenCL until Adobe issues an update. Them shits is broke.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:31:12pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

LOLGOP has blocked me. Can we send them to the moon prison?

Done.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:33:08pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

Done.

I’m fully on board with the moon prison idea. Some folks are just so bad that they need to spend some time in a cage on the moon. I hope to be Deputy Warden in the future (you obviously being Warden).

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:41:26pm

I’m noticing that the “libertarian” folks I follow (read: keep an eye on) on Twitter are really starting to align themselves more with the right wing rather than left these days. Lots of mean-spirited jabs at Democrats in general, and - horrifyingly (/) - a lot of pro-Trump/Carson talk.

I’ve been following Nick Gillespie and Reason Magazine on Twitter since I opened my damned account. The partisanship is very clear these days.

Oh, and libertarians suck. I know. I used to be one.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:43:02pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

I’m noticing that the “libertarian” folks I follow (read: keep an eye on) on Twitter are really starting to align themselves more with the right wing rather than left these days. Lots of mean-spirited jabs at Democrats in general, and - horrifyingly (/) - a lot of pro-Trump/Carson talk.

I’ve been following Nick Gillespie and Reason Magazine on Twitter since I opened my damned account. The partisanship is very clear these days.

Oh, and libertarians suck. I know. I used to be one.

Libertarians were only ever conservatives who liked smoking pot.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 9:52:01pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Libertarians were only ever conservatives who liked smoking pot.

Just to dispense some experience, I became a conservative after 9/11. Like a lot of people around here. I know, shocking, right?

I bought into the notion that we needed to be militant and aggressive against the folks that did this to us. So I took G.W. Bush’s word to heart, even though I hated that he won the election in a Supreme Court decision, and I had voted for Ralph Nader! (gulp)

I was 19 years old, second year in college, smokin’, listenin’ to and playin’ all kinds of music, finishing all the core credits for a college degree, meeting all kinds of people from places not where I’m from.

Then the world changed. And, like Charles, I wanted to know who could do such a thing and why.

That was 14 years ago. I am not a conservative today. Though I enjoy smoking pot.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:01:09pm

Best one found!!!!

The Cars - Candy-O 1979

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:06:25pm

And with that (watched twice) I’m out!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:13:27pm

Some fun weather today in SoCal:

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:16:34pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

O_O

Holy shit!

El Niño should make things better!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:17:07pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

O_O

Holy shit!

El Niño should make things better!

…that last line is sarcastic, right?

More rain = more mudslides…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:18:29pm

mr. klys and I were going to try to go to Saline Valley Hot Springs this next week, but. Between the thunderstorms in the Death Valley area earlier this month and the ones today/tonight/maybe tomorrow, I think we have made the right call in not going.

Also he was home sick today too.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:18:32pm

re: #21 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…that last line is sarcastic, right?

More rain = more mudslides…

I go by the goddamnedfrank rule: Sarc tags are for lepers. I still apply sarc tags here and there, but I’m successfully weaning myself off them.

:)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:21:28pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our son mentioned earlier today that the 5 FWY was closed for a while due to mud slides. We’re roughly 100 miles south of Antelope Valley and we didn’t get even a drop.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:21:53pm

re: #24 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Our son mentioned earlier today that the 5 FWY was closed for a while due to mud slides. We’re roughly 100 miles south of Antelope Valley and we didn’t get even a drop.

Like this?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:24:52pm

re: #25 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Damn! My sympathy to everyone caught up in that because, as you know, the alternatives to the 5 are miles and miles of driving away.

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TedStriker  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:27:53pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Libertarians were only ever conservatives who liked smoking pot.

And having sex for fun.

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KGxvi  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:28:56pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

I still mostly consider myself a libertarian. Late 90s, early aughts I considered myself a center right libertarian. One day I woke up and realized that I went from center right to center left libertarian without really changing too many positions.

One of the things that drove it was more “conservatives” started calling themselves libertarians as the Bush Administration when to shit. I haven’t paid much attention to the movement types since the mid aughts, but my guess is that it pulled their own Overton window. And then Obama started doing things that libertarians were supposedly in favor of and that had to shock them.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:29:03pm

Half-way through October, a major beltway of Denver closed in both directions for several hours, right in the middle of rush hour. This was yesterday.

As of tonight, the 40 or so acre fire is half contained and the highway is open.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:35:24pm

In 2010, the first year I lived in Denver, there was a fire up the Boulder Creek drainage, in September. I could see smoke from my car driving home from work, 40 or so miles away. The FourMile Canyon fire destroyed 169 homes in a matter of days.

Then the floods came three years later…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:50:34pm

Landslides! Fires! Floods! END TIMES!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:52:30pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Landslides! Fires! Floods! END TIMES!!

Yep. Just like when I arrived in California 33 years ago.

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teleskiguy  Oct 15, 2015 • 10:56:19pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Landslides! Fires! Floods! END TIMES!!

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:11:32pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Yep. Just like when I arrived in California 33 years ago.

Yep. Just like when I arrived in California 55 years ago.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:26:02pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Yep. Just like when I arrived in California 33 years ago.

From “Futurama”: Fry’s Assessment of Los Angeles

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:33:36pm

re: #34 Single-handed sailor

Yep. Just like when I arrived in California 55 years ago.

Just like when I arrived in California with Fr. Serra.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:36:06pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Just like when I arrived in California with Fr. Serra.

Pics or GTFO.//

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:36:47pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:37:41pm

Meanwhile, we have a good, juicy political scandal brewing here in the kraj (region) next door.

Following months of investigations, the anti-organized crime squad cracked down on what detectives believe to be a powerful corruption ring involving former politicians, public officials and high-ranking members of the regional police force. The ring, allegedly centered in Moravia’s Olomouc region, is suspected of having manipulated public tenders, influenced the selection of candidates for key posts in public administration and marred police investigations.

Among the big fish caught in the net of this extensive police operation are former interior minister Ivan Langer, the governor of the Olomouc region Jiří Rozbořil and the deputy head of the Olomouc regional police force Karel Kadlec. Although the detention of former interior minister Langer dominated earlier reports of the scandal, he has not been charged and it is his close friend Jiri Rozbořil, the governor of Olomouc, who has now emerged as a central figure in the web of corruption being unraveled. Unlike Ivan Langer, who was released without being charged, Rozboril has been charged with soliciting bribes. At a press briefing in Olomouc on Thursday he told journalists he had never abused his office or in any way assisted the operation of an alleged corruption ring in the region.

radio.cz

From what I’m reading in local sources, the Prosecutor’s Office wants to try the case here in Ostrava at the regional court out of concern of possible witness tampering, etc.

The story I’ve linked to mentions the website neovlivni.cz, which is running some very good stories about this affair, written by journalist Sabina Slonková. You can run it through Google Translate, which while not perfect, is still a good way to get a grasp of what’s happening. It’s a pretty major corruption scandal by Czech standards.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:38:13pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Just like when I arrived in California with Fr. Serra.

Just like when I arrived in California after migrating across a land bridge from Asia to North America.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:40:33pm

re: #37 Single-handed sailor

Well, I do have a pic of the Leland dog, taken this afternoon.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:41:21pm

re: #40 Ace-o-aces

Just like when I arrived in California after migrating across a land bridge from Asia to North America.

Slacker! We just walked across Gondwanaland.

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KGxvi  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:41:39pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

As Jimmy Buffett once said, we’ve got it all in California “riots, fires, and mudslides… And sushi in the mall, water bars and brontasaurs…”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:43:36pm

re: #43 KGxvi

The late Spanky said that California was the only place he’d been where people ran even when they hadn’t stolen anything.

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KGxvi  Oct 15, 2015 • 11:44:25pm

re: #44 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They only ran because nobody walks in LA

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:22:26am

re: #37 Single-handed sailor

Pics or GTFO.//

Junipero Serra wants YOU!!

Pull My FInger!
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freetoken  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:47:54am

Maybe we’ve let all this get out of control?

World-famous teacher files $1 billion lawsuit against Los Angeles schools to end ‘teacher jail’

I don’t really understand the story - there has to be more to the story for all this to come down the pike.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:52:25am

Afghan migrant shot dead trying to enter Bulgaria - interior ministry

A man travelling with a large group of refugees from Afghanistan was shot by a border police officer near the southeastern Bulgarian town of Sredets late on Thursday and died on his way to the hospital, a senior interior ministry official said.

“Our border patrol of border guards and police in the area had stumbled on 50 offenders, who illegally entered the country,” Georgi Kostov, the chief secretary of the interior ministry, told national radio.

[…]

I guess this is how it will all end, eventually.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:56:38am

Yikes. Even though the title on YouTube is misleading, here’s a good example of Sovereign Citizen or Freeman On The Land nonsense. Oh…..and the cop has the patience of a saint.

crazy feminist arrested

Warning - the young lady’s voice is exceedingly shrill. Yeesh.

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teleskiguy  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:59:54am

I worry about earthquakes and volcanoes. With regards to all the LGF Lizard people, I worry so, because I care.

That hot-spot underneath Yellowstone, about that…well, there’s nothing those motherfuckers can do that live near there (Jackson Hole skier badasses and other cool mountain folk).

All you folks on the strike-slip fault along the west coast…good luck. Be prepared for a catastrophe.

The Pacific Northwest? I don’t know what to tell you. Very VERY bad things could happen to every place where there are humans from Vancouver to the northern California border. That’s up to the earth.

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Varek Raith  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:05:19am

re: #1 Lidane

This is awesome. I’m definitely starting to Feel the Bern:

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That CEO sure likes picking fights he can’t win.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:05:57am

The words describe my mood these days… RG in his peak years:

MP3 Audio

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:13:03am

re: #50 teleskiguy

I worry about earthquakes and volcanoes. With regards to all the LGF Lizard people, I worry so, because I care.

That hot-spot underneath Yellowstone, about that…well, there’s nothing those motherfuckers can do that live near there (Jackson Hole skier badasses and other cool mountain folk).

All you folks on the strike-slip fault along the west coast…good luck. Be prepared for a catastrophe.

The Pacific Northwest? I don’t know what to tell you. Very VERY bad things could happen to every place where there are humans from Vancouver to the northern California border. That’s up to the earth.

One of these days, the Cascadia Subduction Zone is gonna rip and produce a megathrust earthquake (probably somewhere in magnitude 9 territory) followed by a tsunami. Given the history of that fault, I’d say it’s pretty much inevitable - it’s a matter of “when” not “if”. And that’s going to be bad - and will most likely end up as the worst natural disaster in US history when it goes down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:21:05am

re: #20 teleskiguy

O_O

Holy shit!

El Niño should make things better!

It will mean more precipitation, which is direly needed, but the higher temperatures will mean that they do not get significantly more snowpack in the Sierras, which is even more direly needed…

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Tigger2  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:33:45am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

Yikes. Even though the title on YouTube is misleading, here’s a good example of Sovereign Citizen or Freeman On The Land nonsense. Oh…..and the cop has the patience of a saint.

[Embedded content]

Video

Warning - the young lady’s voice is exceedingly shrill. Yeesh.

Those Sovereign Citizen people are completely fucking nuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:35:24am

re: #55 Tigger2

Those Sovereign Citizen people are completely fucking nuts.

It’s what happens when they are suddenly exposed to the world outside their Echo Chamber.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:37:40am

re: #55 Tigger2

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I noticed in the vid the young lady was citing (of all things) the Articles of Confederation. That’s some seriously crazy reasoning on her part.

I can’t help but wonder if this was all some nonsense she read on the internet - I know that Sovereign Citizen seminars used to be quite the big thing, but I think nowadays, people pick it up off the web.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:41:16am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

I noticed in the vid the young lady was citing (of all things) the Articles of Confederation. That’s some seriously crazy reasoning on her part.

Exactly. The Articles of Confederation only apply if you live south of the Mason-Dixon Line…

/

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2015 • 1:47:17am

Off to teach. Later.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 16, 2015 • 2:48:10am

Jeb Bush is a ridiculous cock-waddle:

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush feels so strongly about the Washington Redskins team name that he’s incorporated his support for it into his stump speech.

As the Washington Post reported Thursday, the former Florida governor told attendees at a New Hampshire town hall that the “Washington” half of the name was the only offensive part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 2:52:01am

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Jeb Bush is a ridiculous cock-waddle:

US law is clear: they can keep the name, they just can’t copyright it. Fair compromise. Would be the same if someone named a team the “New York Jewboys” or the “Tulsa T***lheads”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:29:59am

I see Chuck and his lawyer did not get the extra day’s grace they had asked begged for. Today is the day — no more extensions.

pacermonitor.com

The initials at the end of that entry (SMH) are rather apropos, under the circumstances.

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WhatEVs  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:37:25am

re: #47 freetoken

Maybe we’ve let all this get out of control?

World-famous teacher files $1 billion lawsuit against Los Angeles schools to end ‘teacher jail’

I don’t really understand the story - there has to be more to the story for all this to come down the pike.

That’s half a story right there. It just ends. In the middle. Weird.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:40:47am

re: #63 WhatEVs

That’s half a story right there. It just ends. In the middle. Weird.

It seems to be a reposted story which might explain why it is truncated.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:41:29am

Stupid question…what were Wayne Simmons’s “prior arrests and criminal convictions”?

According to the indictment, Simmons also falsely claimed on national security forms that his prior arrests and criminal convictions were directly related to his supposed intelligence work for the CIA, and that he had previously held a top secret security clearance.

And, are we to believe that no one at Faux News or anywhere else ever bothered to run a background check on this guy and never discovered his criminal record?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:50:53am

re: #65 Timothy Watson

Stupid question…what were Wayne Simmons’s “prior arrests and criminal convictions”?

And, are we to believe that no one at Faux News or anywhere else ever bothered to run a background check on this guy and never discovered his criminal record?

It’s my understanding (from careful attention paid to spy and undercover cop movies) that such criminal records would be expunged if those crimes were necessary for field operatives to maintain their cover. Maybe that’s all fiction, but at least they should have checked Simmons’ story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:53:47am

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s my understanding (from careful attention paid to spy and undercover cop movies) that such criminal records would be expunged if those crimes were necessary for field operatives to maintain their cover. Maybe that’s all fiction, but at least they should have checked Simmons’ story.

You assume that they have any professional or journalistic standards…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:54:33am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You assume that they have any professional or journalistic standards…

Point taken.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:56:58am

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Point taken.

There was a time when failure to maintain professional and journalistic standards could seriously damage a broadcaster’s credibility, therefore also its viewership and ultimately its bottom line.

That is no longer the case. Standards cost money.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 3:59:24am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when failure to maintain professional and journalistic standards could seriously damage a broadcaster’s credibility, therefore also its viewership and ultimately its bottom line.

That is no longer the case. Standards cost money.

The thing is, the viewing public no longer understands there ever were such standards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:00:19am

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The thing is, the viewing public no longer understands there ever were such standards.

Nor do they want them, They just want ideological purity and confirmation of their bias.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:04:43am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Nor do they want them, They just want ideological purity and confirmation of their bias.

Especially the Fox Noise viewers, who have been conditioned by that network to think in a certain way. If Roger Ailes suddenly had a change of heart, and made a public announcement that Fox News was a ginormous Poe from the get-go, millions of heads would simultaneously explode.

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Lidane  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:04:57am

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Libertarians were only ever conservatives who liked smoking pot.

Libertarians = Republicans Who Like Weed and Sex. Otherwise they’re identical to the GOP if you spend enough time listening to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:09:20am

re: #73 Lidane

Libertarians = Republicans Who Like Weed and Sex. Otherwise they’re identical to the GOP if you spend enough time listening to them.

If dudes want to get stoned and fuck chicks, that’s okay…and they’re generally cool on contraception and abortion as long as the women pay for it.

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Varek Raith  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:20:28am
Turkey’s air force shot down an unidentified aircraft that entered Turkish airspace near Syrian border, Turkish armed forces said. The aircraft was shot down after it did not respond to three warnings from Turkish air force.

- CNN

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:20:54am

Magna Carta removed from public display at Beijing’s Renmin University — It might give Chinese people ideas.

shanghaiist.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:21:58am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Magna Carta removed from public display at Beijing’s Renmin University — It might give Chinese people ideas.

shanghaiist.com

Yes, that the Rights and Privileges of the Ruling Elite should be codified. That is what the MC is all about.

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William Lewis  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:25:44am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s true so far as it goes ; the danger of it remains that there are any limits to the king/emperor/chairman at all.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:25:57am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, that the Rights and Privileges of the Ruling Elite should be codified. That is what the MC is all about.

It was those phrases like “rule of law” and “constitution” that raised concerns in a country that has laws and rules and a constitution, none of which the ruling party really follows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:29:14am

re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It was those phrases like “rule of law” and “constitution” that raised concerns in a country that has laws and rules and a constitution, none of which the ruling party really follows.

The king/emperor always had practical limits to his power, the MC just codified them. A dangerous precedent…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:30:19am

A more uplifting story from Shanghaiist:

A Taiwanese woman flying to LA went into labor over the Pacific, and gave birth assisted by a doctor and the flight attendants. The plane landed in Anchorage, and the baby is now an American.

As the story suggests, don’t tell Trump.

shanghaiist.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:31:25am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

Yikes. Even though the title on YouTube is misleading, here’s a good example of Sovereign Citizen or Freeman On The Land nonsense. Oh…..and the cop has the patience of a saint.

[Embedded content]

Video

Warning - the young lady’s voice is exceedingly shrill. Yeesh.

What. The. Fuck. Is. That.

White Privilege on Hulkragesteroids.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:40:20am

Antelope Freeway, 1/2 mile….

Antelope Freeway, 1/4 mile….

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:47:44am

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

Antelope Freeway, 1/2 mile….

Antelope Freeway, 1/4 mile….

Big upding for Firesign Theater reference. We were just listening to that with friends over the weekend.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:48:26am

OH WON’T SOMEONE THINKS OF TEH POOR 1%!!! THERE SO POOR!!! OH TEH POVERTYS!!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:51:04am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Big upding for Firesign Theater reference. We were just listening to that with friends over the weekend.

Few days go by that my memories aren’t triggered somehow. Of course, there’s the danger of going down the rabbit hole of quotations and boring the hell out of everyone around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 4:59:27am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

Few days go by that my memories aren’t triggered somehow. Of course, there’s the danger of going down the rabbit hole of quotations and boring the hell out of everyone around.

I was visiting an old friend, both of us grew up listening to them.

But he was no fun, he fell right over…

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Bird in the Paw  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:07:45am

re: #50 teleskiguy

That hot-spot underneath Yellowstone, about that…well, there’s nothing those motherfuckers can do that live near there (Jackson Hole skier badasses and other cool mountain folk)

And by near there, you mean the Western Hemisphere, right? ‘Cause when that super volcano blows, NA is fucked. The people that go up in the explosion will be the fortunate ones. Ok, that may be a little over the top, but the climate changes are going to be real bad.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:07:54am

from my Policy Mic email:

Nearly 85% of people killed by U.S. drones in recent strikes were unintended targets. The Intercept released an in-depth report Thursday revealing the nation’s Operation Haymaker campaign (meant to target Al Qaeda and Taliban higher ups) killed more than 200 people

— but only 35 were enemy targets. It’s unclear how long the mission lasted, but by the end of 2013, the number of civilian casualties by drones in Afghanistan tripled from the prior year.

This raises an important question: Drone attacks, laser-guided bombs and “nonlethal weapons” were supposed to reduce civilian casualties and suffering. But are they actually making war more humane — or is killing just becoming easier?

THE DRONE PAPERS

The Intercept has obtained a cache of secret documents detailing the inner workings of the U.S. military’s assassination program in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia. The documents, provided by a whistleblower, offer an unprecedented glimpse into Obama’s drone wars.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:10:53am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

OH WON’T SOMEONE THINKS OF TEH POOR 1%!!! THERE SO POOR!!! OH TEH POVERTYS!!!!

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I had this discussion the other day with someone. They said not to donate to Goodwill, but donate to Salvation Army, because the CEO of Goodwill made $700K a year.

I asked what city that person lived in> I also noted that if Goodwill expected to keep a good CEO, they had to pay competitively. I also noted that many college football coaches made over $1M.

People in this country have a some outdated ideas about money.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:12:16am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I was visiting an old friend, both of us grew up listening to them.

But he was no fun, he fell right over…

My brothers and I grew up listening to them, too. So few breakfasts without “10-4 Eleanor; heavy on the 30-weight…. Where’s Georgie?….He’s upstairs helping Porcelain make the bed….”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:17:30am

re: #14 teleskiguy

I’m noticing that the “libertarian” folks I follow (read: keep an eye on) on Twitter are really starting to align themselves more with the right wing rather than left these days. Lots of mean-spirited jabs at Democrats in general, and - horrifyingly (/) - a lot of pro-Trump/Carson talk.

I’ve been following Nick Gillespie and Reason Magazine on Twitter since I opened my damned account. The partisanship is very clear these days.

Oh, and libertarians suck. I know. I used to be one.

Libertarians have always been pro-GOP. Rand Paul is the perfect example of that.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:18:23am

re: #2 teleskiguy

That motherfucker is better off voting Republican, they best represent his interests. Dude is not only overly greedy and heartless, he’s fucking dumb as well.

Nobody gonna take Martin Shkreli’s money. He’s proved himself to be both an asshole and a dumbass to the public at large and no major candidate is going to want anything to do with him.

He likely made that Bernie Sanders donation as a stunt to get a reaction out of the Sanders campaign. This is of course juvenile, and on the level of the assholes who plagued me in high school. And Martin Shkreli followed up the Sander’s rejection with a classic DARVO (posted as the parent tweet to a very good reply):

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:21:13am

re: #48 freetoken

So it’s okay to shoot refugees now?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:21:57am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

So it’s okay to shoot refugees now?

Don’t give people ideas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:22:09am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

So it’s okay to shoot refugees now?

It is time to see this as a serious international crisis and address it at an international level…that is the only way to avoid similar incidents in the future.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:22:27am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

Yikes. Even though the title on YouTube is misleading, here’s a good example of Sovereign Citizen or Freeman On The Land nonsense. Oh…..and the cop has the patience of a saint.

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Video

Warning - the young lady’s voice is exceedingly shrill. Yeesh.

I work at Social Security’s 800 number. And I deal with “sovereign citizens” like that blistering asshole every day. They will scream and scream about how they hate the government and in the next breath they will turn around and say that we’re shorting their Social Security and/or SSI payments…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:23:07am

Debbie Wasserman Shultz - DNC Chair Asked if Her Kids Were Human Beings Before Birth

Not as good as Nancy Pelosi, but still good.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:23:51am

re: #65 Timothy Watson

As long as Simmons was demonizing President Obama, he was perfectly cool with the Faux Noise execs. His anti-Obamaness made checking his background completely unnecessary.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:24:13am

re: #92 Patricia Kayden

Libertarians have always been pro-GOP. Rand Paul is the perfect example of that.

Libertarians are all about money.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:25:53am
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Joe Bacon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:27:10am

re: #100 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Libertarians are all about money.

Oh, do you have that right! As I posted above I work at Social Security’s 800 number. Every day I deal with so-called “libertarians” who love to yell on the phone saying stuff like, “Gimme mine! Gimme my money!” and then in their next breath they love to yell about the “N-CLANGS” mooching off of the American taxpayer…

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:27:25am

re: #91 Barefoot Grin

My brothers and I grew up listening to them, too. So few breakfasts without “10-4 Eleanor; heavy on the 30-weight…. Where’s Georgie?….He’s upstairs helping Porcelain make the bed….”

Does Bubbles count?

Only to ten, Mudhead.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:27:37am

re: #89 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

from my Policy Mic email:

Please don’t link to that asshole Greenwald, GGT.

What he neglects to mention is that most of the “unintended targets” were lower ranking terrorists in the vicinity of the intended target. Killing such people isn’t a failure, its a bonus. As a practical matter, armed males see near a high-level terrorist at the time the high-level dirtbag is blown to Hell should be considered fellow terrorists.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:29:21am

re: #102 Joe Bacon

Oh, do you have that right! As I posted above I work at Social Security’s 800 number. Every day I deal with so-called “libertarians” who love to yell on the phone saying stuff like, “Gimme mine! Gimme my money!” and then in their next breath they love to yell about the “N-CLANGS” mooching off of the American taxpayer…

Because of course only Black people are on welfare, right?

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:30:29am

re: #101 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

OTTER PUPPIES!!!!!!!
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Who doesn’t love otters, other than those who hate fun? Asian Small-Clawed Otters can also be seen at both Chicago-area zoos. Both Lincoln Park Zoo and Brookfield Zoo also have North American River Otters as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:30:59am

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

Because of course only all Black people are on welfare, or taking government handouts, right?

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Joe Bacon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:31:08am

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

Because of course only Black people are on welfare, right?

Patricia, in their next breath they start yelling ‘bout “Them Mex-kans”. And in a lot of cases I can hear Fox News, Rush, Savage or some other right wing hate radio jerk in the background.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:33:59am

bbiab

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Stuff Happens  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:37:00am

yes, but can we really blame him?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:37:37am

re: #90 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I had this discussion the other day with someone. They said not to donate to Goodwill, but donate to Salvation Army, because the CEO of Goodwill made $700K a year.

I asked what city that person lived in> I also noted that if Goodwill expected to keep a good CEO, they had to pay competitively. I also noted that many college football coaches made over $1M.

People in this country have a some outdated ideas about money.

Goodwill pays their disabled workers something like 25¢/hr. I am not making this up. So fuck the CEO of Goodwill.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:39:03am

We live in a country where reality tv stars make far more than any educator. There’s something wrong with that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:39:40am

Steve Crowder is so desperate he’s having his own family call into his stupid show where he says a bunch of lame shit that Rush Limbaugh crapped out 20 years ago.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:40:16am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Goodwill pays their disabled workers something like 25¢/hr. I am not making this up. So fuck the CEO of Goodwill.

This. The problem is that every org (non profit or not) is run like a mega corporation. We must pay the workes less so we can pay the CEOs more.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:41:58am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

That’s based on a rather outlandish and outdated federal law (FLSA Sec. 14(c)). The idea was that any job the disabled get is better than none at all. But that goes against current thinking where minimum wage should apply to all workers - a hard floor on the wage, given that they’re doing a job that should be properly compensated for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:43:20am

re: #115 lawhawk

That’s based on a rather outlandish and outdated federal law (FLSA Sec. 14(c)). The idea was that any job the disabled get is better than none at all. But that goes against current thinking where minimum wage should apply to all workers - a hard floor on the wage, given that they’re doing a job that should be properly compensated for.

It might be a different matter if these disabled people were already receiving other benefits and the work is seen as more a matter of social integration.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:44:13am

re: #102 Joe Bacon

Oh, do you have that right! As I posted above I work at Social Security’s 800 number. Every day I deal with so-called “libertarians” who love to yell on the phone saying stuff like, “Gimme mine! Gimme my money!” and then in their next breath they love to yell about the “N-CLANGS” mooching off of the American taxpayer…

You really see this in comments to the main TV news source here in the “Live Free or Die Tryin’” state. Lots of retired libertarian-types who love to pounce on any story involving someone non-white getting arrested. They even complain about the use of narcan to resuscitate OD heroin users regardless of color (goddamnit, using my tax money to save these fools who are just gonna do it again—let ‘em die!).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:46:56am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It might be a different matter if these disabled people were already receiving other benefits and the work is seen as more a matter of social integration.

Whatever they receive from Social Security disability is also a miserable pittance so they should at least receive minimum wage for ragpicking at Goodwill.

Also I don’t give a fuck what “other CEO’s” make. CEO pay should be tied to worker pay, not to other CEO pay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:49:51am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

Whatever they receive from Social Security disability is also a miserable pittance so they should at least receive minimum wage for ragpicking at Goodwill.

Also I don’t give a fuck what “other CEO’s” make. CEO pay should be tied to worker pay, not to other CEO pay.

In the end, it is the shareholders who determine CEO pay. If they continue buy into the notion that only multi-millionaires can run their companies successfully, then nothing will change

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:50:50am

Deleted, as it didn’t really work.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:51:34am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In the end, it is the shareholders who determine CEO pay. If they continue buy into the notion that only multi-millionaires can run their companies successfully, then nothing will change

It’s the Board of Directors actually, which consists of…. other CEOs!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:52:25am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In the end, it is the shareholders who determine CEO pay. If they continue buy into the notion that only multi-millionaires can run their companies successfully, then nothing will change

Also: even CEO’s who fail miserably, get multimillion parachutes (*cough* Carly *cough*)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:53:05am

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

It’s the Board of Directors actually, which consists of…. other CEOs!

Who are supposed to be elected by the shareholders…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:54:35am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Also: even CEO’s who fail miserably, get multimillion parachutes (*cough* Carly *cough*)

Moral Hazard is for them what can’t afford it…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:55:10am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Who are supposed to be elected by the shareholders…

Shareholders get a proxy ballot which is already filled out, there is no competition.

At least that has been my experience from owning a few hundred shares of GM stock in the ‘90’s.

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BadgerB  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:55:23am

but the candidates the shareholder elect are (in practice) selected by CEO. Nice system, pick the folks who approve your salary and pay them out of company funds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 5:57:41am

re: #126 BadgerB

but the candidates the shareholder elect are (in practice) selected by CEO. Nice system, pick the folks who approve your salary and pay them out of company funds.

anyone who attempts to reform this entrenched system will be branded a rabid anti-capitalist…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:01:09am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

anyone who attempts to reform this entrenched system will be branded a rabid anti-capitalist…

HURR HURR CLASS WARFARE!!!! TEH CEO’S ALL WORKS HARDER THEN U LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!!!

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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:02:23am

Ynet: Palestinian Disguised as Journalist Stabs Israeli

A soldier was stabbed and moderately wounded in Kiryat Arba, near Hebron, on Friday afternoon.

The moments in which security forces neutralized the attacker were filmed by the al-Quds TV network, which has Hamas affiliations. The attacker was killed. It soon emerged that he had been disguised as a cameraman, wearing a vest and carrying cameras.

Attacker in press disguise at the scene

To make things worse, this happened over the night:
Haaretz: Palestinian Mob Sets Fire to Joseph’s Tomb

Hundreds of Palestinian youth set fire with molotov cocktails to parts of the Joseph’s Tomb complex in Nablus Friday morning.

Hundreds of young Palestinians gathered and threw Molotov cocktails at the compound. When some of them broke in and began throwing flammables inside the compound, Palestinian security forces took control of the situation. When they arrived, they fired into the air and removed the rioters from the site. A team of local firemen put out the flames.

The IDF said that it “considers this event severely, will work to locate and arrest the perpetrators, and strongly condemns any attacks on holy sites.”

So much for the PLO and Hamas’ statements about “protecting the holy sites”…
Israelis on all sides of the political spectrum are enraged over this, and to make things worse, everyone is bracing for another ‘day of rage’, with protests anticipated at the end of the Friday prayers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:06:03am

re: #129 Archangelus

Ynet: Palestinian Disguised as Journalist Stabs Israeli

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To make things worse, this happened over the night:
Haaretz: Palestinian Mob Sets Fire to Joseph’s Tomb

So much for the PLO and Hamas’ statements about “protecting the holy sites”…
Israelis on all sides of the political spectrum are enraged over this, and to make things worse, everyone is bracing for another ‘day of rage’, with protests anticipated at the end of the Friday prayers.

Running around stabbing random Jews & burning down places of worship (Kever Yosef is also a Muslim shrine) is not a good way to convince Bibi & his government to want to resume peace talks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:06:29am

re: #129 Archangelus

So much for the PLO and Hamas’ statements about “protecting the holy sites”…
Israelis on all sides of the political spectrum are enraged over this, and to make things worse, everyone is bracing for another ‘day of rage’, with protests anticipated at the end of the Friday prayers.

To think that there was a time when I followed news from the Middle East with the guarded optimism that things would improve.

That was about 20 years ago…

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:10:43am

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

It’s the Board of Directors actually, which consists of…. other CEOs!

Or they serve as directors on other corporate boards as well. Wonder who holds the record for serving on multiple board of directors this year?

The board of directors also sets their own compensation. $100k here, $150k there, it can add up.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:13:06am

Things are getting out of hand in Israel and the territories, and I don’t think either Bibi or Abbas are up to the task of restoring order, let alone doing anything constructive these days.

Palestinian arsonists torched Joseph’s Tomb in Bethlehem. Abbas says that he’ll get to the bottom of it, but don’t hold your breath. Bibi says that he’s using and urging restraint, but that doesn’t appear to be the case either - not when you’re calling up the army to address a policing matter (stabbing/shootings, even if they turn out to be terror attacks).

That’s on top of the madness of Abbas and other Palestinians claiming that a Palestinian teen who engaged in one of those stabbing attacks was dead, when he clearly was alive and recovering in an Israeli hospital.

I get why Palestinians are pissed - decades of empty promises by leaders who claim that only if they continue to resist will get all of Israel, including the right to return to lands their ancestors left, and ongoing promises of resistance will result in concessions by Israel, when none of that has actually happened.

Israelis can be pissed too - because they see that disengagement didn’t work (or didn’t have a chance to work since Sharon stroked out, leaving the disengagement aftermath to incompetents), and that they have few options with demographics working against them, and an Israeli population that itself is splitting along religious/secular lines as well as settler/nonsettler. They have few options left to choose from, and Bibi is sticking to his claims that Israeli security is better off with him in charge (one of the reasons he won the last election after all), even though there’s no actual proof that this is the case - under Bibi we’re seeing another Intifada, and there was a major war in Gaza, just as with the prior govt with Operation Cast Lead. Hizbullah remains on the sidelines for the moment, as their attention is focused not on Israel but on Syria. Iran too is fixated on Syria for the moment, and with ISIL an ongoing threat to pretty much everyone, with good reason.

Even Israel agrees that ISIL is a threat. It’s pretty much the one thing most everyone in the region agrees upon, and yet no one can get to a consensus on what to do. That’s pretty much the most upsetting thing in all of this.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:16:49am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

OH WON’T SOMEONE THINKS OF TEH POOR 1%!!! THERE SO POOR!!! OH TEH POVERTYS!!!!

Pretty sure Crowder was saying the 1% was $350k and over just a week or so ago. Next he’ll say Hurr hurr 1% is people only making $1 million!!!!!

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:17:59am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

20 years ago, back when the Oslo Accords were just being negotiated and made public, there was perhaps a reason. The intervening years has shown that Arafat was not interested in doing anything more than mugging for cameras - he wasn’t willing to do the heavy lifting of making an actual peace deal - Oslo was a framework arrangement.

Israel disengaged from Gaza, but that ended up allowing Hamas to take over, and there’s now more chance of a 3-state solution than a 2-state one. Hamas and Fatah still don’t have a government (haven’t held elections) and neither really can govern more than their bit of territory - Gaza for Hamas and parts of the West Bank for Fatah.

It’s a mess right now, and I don’t see a way forward when none of the leaders involved have any actual interest in peace talks. Because that’s what it takes to make peace deals - a leader committed to the idea.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:23:20am

re: #135 lawhawk

20 years ago, back when the Oslo Accords were just being negotiated and made public, there was perhaps a reason. The intervening years has shown that Arafat was not interested in doing anything more than mugging for cameras - he wasn’t willing to do the heavy lifting of making an actual peace deal - Oslo was a framework arrangement.

Israel disengaged from Gaza, but that ended up allowing Hamas to take over, and there’s now more chance of a 3-state solution than a 2-state one. Hamas and Fatah still don’t have a government (haven’t held elections) and neither really can govern more than their bit of territory - Gaza for Hamas and parts of the West Bank for Fatah.

It’s a mess right now, and I don’t see a way forward when none of the leaders involved have any actual interest in peace talks. Because that’s what it takes to make peace deals - a leader committed to the idea.

I’m thinking that even if ISIL becomes active in Gaza & the WB, Hamas and Fatah will still not get their shit together, and Israel might have to send in the ground troops.

Bad shit would happen, and I have loved ones in Israel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:24:44am

re: #134 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Pretty sure Crowder was saying the 1% was $350k and over just a week or so ago. Next he’ll say Hurr hurr 1% is people only making $1 million!!!!!

Crowder is just repeating lame shit that Rush crapped out of his mouth 20 years ago.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:25:14am

Trump unhinged

Trump claims the US is defending Germany and Japan with “our lives”. Since when? How many men and women have died “defending Germany and Japan”?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:25:17am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

Running around stabbing random Jews & burning down places of worship (Kever Yosef is also a Muslim shrine) is not a good way to convince Bibi & his government to want to resume peace talks.

Does Bibi really want peace? Will he ever trust the Palestinians enough to wage peace?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:26:11am

re: #126 BadgerB

but the candidates the shareholder elect are (in practice) selected by CEO. Nice system, pick the folks who approve your salary and pay them out of company funds.

Nice gig if you can get it!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:27:39am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Also: even CEO’s who fail miserably, get multimillion parachutes (*cough* Carly *cough*)

They have a contract.

Like Union Employees —but Unions are bad …

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:27:48am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

I can see that nightmare scenario happening although Hamas has maintained a rather tight grip on controlling who does what in Gaza.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:27:48am

re: #140 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Does Bibi really want peace? Will he ever trust the Palestinians enough to wage peace?

If he could be persuaded to want peace, what is going on now is not going to accomplish that.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:28:44am

re: #14 teleskiguy

I’m noticing that the “libertarian” folks I follow (read: keep an eye on) on Twitter are really starting to align themselves more with the right wing rather than left these days. Lots of mean-spirited jabs at Democrats in general, and - horrifyingly (/) - a lot of pro-Trump/Carson talk.

I’ve been following Nick Gillespie and Reason Magazine on Twitter since I opened my damned account. The partisanship is very clear these days.

Oh, and libertarians suck. I know. I used to be one.

I just call them anarchists to their faces and tell them libertarianism is a marketing strategy.

Then I laugh while they seethe.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:29:36am

re: #136 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

FBI crime stats and police-related killings are self-reported by departments. They aren’t required to report all data. It’s a voluntary system, so it misses most Departments in the country. That’s why there’s discrepancies between what the police report and what the CDC reports - a gap of several hundred or more that shows deaths in police custody.

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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:30:10am

re: #135 lawhawk

20 years ago there WAS a leader committed to the idea: His name was Yitzchak Rabin, and Israel is currently preparing to commemorate the 20th year for his murder, after which it all went to hell.
I was involved in the work on the book by former head of Shabak Danny Yatom, who knew Rabin well and was involved in the events surrounding the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, and from his writings, you really get the impression that the only reason Arafat even went along with anything was his deep respect and trust in Rabin, personally. And with Rabin out of the picture later, there was nothing those who came later could do (the book details the Camp David meetings in 2000 involving Arafat and Ehud Barak, which featured the height of everything Israel ever offered the Palestinians, and which failed spectacularly).

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:30:38am

re: #14 teleskiguy

I’m noticing that the “libertarian” folks I follow (read: keep an eye on) on Twitter are really starting to align themselves more with the right wing rather than left these days. Lots of mean-spirited jabs at Democrats in general, and - horrifyingly (/) - a lot of pro-Trump/Carson talk.

I’ve been following Nick Gillespie and Reason Magazine on Twitter since I opened my damned account. The partisanship is very clear these days.

Oh, and libertarians suck. I know. I used to be one.

Today, a lot of people too cowardly to call themselves a “republican” will state they are “independent” or “libertarian”.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:31:30am

re: #133 lawhawk

They have few options left to choose from, and Bibi is sticking to his claims that Israeli security is better off with him in charge (one of the reasons he won the last election after all), even though there’s no actual proof that this is the case - under Bibi we’re seeing another Intifada, and there was a major war in Gaza, just as with the prior govt with Operation Cast Lead.

Who could have done any better than Bibi, Lawhawk? This current terrorism wasn’t caused by anything Israel did but by lies being told to the Palestinians by their own media and their own government.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:32:54am

FYI: Joseph’s Tomb is sacred to both Jews and Muslims. Didn’t stop some Palestinian from torching it though.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:38:17am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

You miss the point. Bibi claimed that he alone could offer Israel security, while Labor, Kadima, and the rest (Yesh Atid, etc.) couldn’t. That’s even though his legacy was just as flawed (or moreso) as those he denigrated with those last minute claims.

Herzog of Labor might have been just as good as Bibi on security, but he didn’t have a record on which to compare. Livni’s record includes Cast Lead. Yesh Atid was also a blank slate.

So Bibi capitalized on that by claiming only he could provide security, regardless that his record shows that he’s done as good as others - which is to say presiding over conflicts with Hamas and no closer to peace than anyone since Sharon. Throw in that Bibi cast his lot with the religious parties, and the more right wing parties, and you’ve got a situation not unlike the GOP here in the US - a leadership that is beholden to extremists and nothing gets done.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:40:23am
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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:40:27am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Who could have done any better than Bibi, Lawhawk?

Literally ANYONE else among the leading parties, certainly the Labor party candidate Herzog, who presented actual plans for improving the security situation.
Not that it even mattered that much - in the last elections, nearly EVERYONE in Israel was of the belief that NOTHING would change with the Palestinians and the neighbors, and therefore it was all about internal matters (economy, education, housing crisis, etc.).
As of this time, Netanyahu has not lived up to any of his campaign promises (shocking, ain’t it///), and is barely addressing the matter, avoiding the media as much as possible as well as his own cabinet members and government. Criticism here is rife from all directions now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:41:53am

re: #142 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

They have a contract.

Like Union Employees —but Unions are bad …

When shareholders band together to maximize their investment and earning potential by founding a corporation then that is a good thing and the very Spirit of Capitalism.

But when workers band together to maximize their bargaining and earning power, that is Union Thuggery…

Go figure.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:41:57am

re: #152 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Watch As Koko The Gorilla Falls In Love With A Box Full Of Kittens
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She’s awesome. I’ve seen some of the Koko videos before.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:42:21am

And in Flori-duh news:

Four impaired drivers attempted to drive through the investigation scene, police said, while another driver crashed into an unoccupied cruiser

Four separate drivers face DUI charges after St. Petersburg police say they attempted to drive through an investigation scene following a fatal crash involving a car and motorcycle on Thursday night.

Another driver also struck one of the cruisers during the investigation, police said.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:43:36am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When shareholders band together to maximize their investment and earning potential by founding a corporation then that is a good thing and the very Spirit of Capitalism.

But when workers band together to maximize their bargaining and earning power, that is Union Thuggery…

Go figure.

I was thinking the same thing about benefits. When unions work together to get benefits for them and their members, it’s bad but when the CEO gets a bonus that is more than the median income of this country, it’s hard work being rewarded. My problem as I’ve long stated isn’t really with wealth in itself but with wealth at the expense of others. It is well documented that since the early 80’s that executive salaries have skyrocketed while worker salaries have stayed relatvely stagnant and that’s not good.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:43:47am
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:44:45am

re: #100 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

And when you tell them there wouldn’t be any money without government the reaction is highly amusing.

Once they stop raging about that I tell them, “All currencies are fiat,” and off they go again.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:45:58am

A lying republican??? Shocker!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:46:25am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

It is well documented that since the early 80’s that executive salaries have skyrocketed while worker salaries have stayed relatively stagnant

It must be well documented (somwhere) that CEOs have been working incredibly better and harder and that workers have been slacking off and sitting on their unionized asses…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:46:35am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When shareholders band together to maximize their investment and earning potential by founding a corporation then that is a good thing and the very Spirit of Capitalism.

But when workers band together to maximize their bargaining and earning power, that is Union Thuggery…

Go figure.

Having been the employee that falls under category of “none of the above” … the rank n” file office worker, retail floor person, etc, I’ve often wished there was a union for me to join. Without a contract the rank n’ file worker has no department or organization to support their rights. Human Resources works for the Corporation and trying to negotiate the bazillion organizations and government agencies to gain help is very difficult.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:46:42am

Okay since I see we got a couple of our resident Chicagoans here. I am planning a small trip to your fair city next summer en route to visit my brother and his family in Tahoe. Plan on seeing a Cubs game at Wrigley but lay it on me on good sights to see. Good restaurants and bars too. And good beaches too since I want one day to swim and enjoy all that.

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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:46:47am

CNN is seriously pissing me off now - was alerted to it’s main page just now, which states in big bold letters: “Joseph’s Tomb Compound Torched,” followed by “West Bank holy site targeted among Israeli-Palestinian violence.” Enter the article and it states that the site “caught fire.”

Based on reactions in social media, many are apparently assuming this was the result of Jewish perpetrators, and it isn’t until you read into the article several paragraphs deep that they even bother to point out that it was due to “alleged Palestinian arsonists.”

WTF CNN?!?!

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:47:00am

re: #150 lawhawk

FYI: Joseph’s Tomb is sacred to both Jews and Muslims. Didn’t stop some Palestinian from torching it though.

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Salafism at work. The Saudi-promoted fundie version of Sunni Islam hates tombs, seeing them as being objects of worship instead of God.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:47:05am

re: #159 Romantic Heretic

Once they stop raging about that I tell them, “All currencies are fiat,” and off they go again.

My currency is a LAMBORGHINI!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:47:17am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It must be well documented (somwhere) that CEOs have been working incredibly better and harder and that workers have been slacking off and sitting on their unionized asses…

Heh.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:48:11am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:49:03am

re: #168 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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He used to be my county executive and was my Congressman in college. I like Gerry.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:49:30am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Okay since I see we got a couple of our resident Chicagoans here. I am planning a small trip to your fair city next summer en route to visit my brother and his family in Tahoe. Plan on seeing a Cubs game at Wrigley but lay it on me on good sights to see. Good restaurants and bars too. And good beaches too since I want one day to swim and enjoy all that.

See the White Sox. Lincoln Zoo —walk Michigan Ave and just try out what you see.

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makeitstop  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:49:46am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Today, a lot of people too cowardly to call themselves a “republican” will state they are “independent” or “libertarian”.

Or as Charlie Pierce so aptly put it, ‘Republicans fleeing the scene of the crime.’

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:50:18am

re: #140 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Does Bibi really want peace? Will he ever trust the Palestinians enough to wage peace?

Netanyahu, Abbas and most of the other players in the Middle East confuse peace with victory. Too bad those concepts are pretty much mutually exclusive.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:51:02am

re: #170 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

See the White Sox. Lincoln Zoo —walk Michigan Ave and just try out what you see.

I really like to plan these things out in advance. REally only want to see one game and no offense to the South Siders but Wrigley is legendary which is why I want to go there and besides as a AL fan, I want to see more NL baseball. The zoo sounds nice though.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:51:22am

re: #159 Romantic Heretic

And when you tell them there wouldn’t be any money without government the reaction is highly amusing.

Once they stop raging about that I tell them, “All currencies are fiat,” and off they go again.

I love the concept that money is a concept. Our money is not even paper. It’s not gold. It’s land. It is the good faith and trust of the US people.

That is rather complex for the average bear.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:51:58am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:52:36am

re: #171 makeitstop

Or as Charlie Pierce so aptly put it, ‘Republicans fleeing the scene of the crime.’

In my observations there are a lot of honest to god Libertarians but a lot of them don’t realize how foolish their economic views are. They also are incredibly hostile to anyone who thinks government may be a solution. I said it the other day but libertarians talk a good game on civil rights but they don’t want the government to be able to enforce it. That frankly half the battle.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:53:27am
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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:53:43am

CNN’s main page article about the torching of an important historical/religious site by a mob of hundreds of Palestinians, and what’s the focus? “Palestinian resentments are as old as the 48-year Israeli occupation.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:55:11am

re: #178 Archangelus

CNN’s main page article about the torching of an important historical/religious site by a mob of hundreds of Palestinians, and what’s the focus? “Palestinian resentments are as old as the 48-year Israeli occupation.”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:55:13am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:56:59am

re: #172 Romantic Heretic

Netanyahu, Abbas and most of the other players in the Middle East confuse peace with victory. Too bad those concepts are pretty much mutually exclusive.

Peace is Justice, Truth, Love and Freedom.

I don’t see anything in there about being right, about winning or getting any prizes.

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Archangelus  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:57:12am

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

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This is taking it to a new level - since when does anyone refer to deliberate arson as “catching fire?” What, the stone structure randomly started to burn on its own??

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:59:39am
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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:59:41am

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Salafism at work. The Saudi-promoted fundie version of Sunni Islam hates tombs, seeing them as being objects of worship instead of God.

That’s plausible - it could be the work of Salafists, who are hoping to gin up further violence so as to spread the hate even further. If it starts a more intense phase of the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis, the Salafists would see that as a win while everyone else loses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 6:59:47am

re: #182 Archangelus

This is taking it to a new level - since when does anyone refer to deliberate arson as “catching fire?” What, the stone structure randomly started to burn on its own??

Yes, and teh ebile Israelis murder random Palestinian kids during trivial stabbing attacks.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:00:11am

re: #182 Archangelus

This is taking it to a new level - since when does anyone refer to deliberate arson as “catching fire?” What, the stone structure randomly started to burn on its own??

It’s a Miracle. /steel doesn’t melt

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:01:13am

re: #183 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

DoD Orders Police Nationwide to Give Back Grenade Launchers, Bayonets, & Tanks

Boyz have to give back their toyz!!!

Should have never given them those in the first place IMO. We ned to demilitarize the splice.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:02:50am
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:03:53am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

In my observations there are a lot of honest to god Libertarians but a lot of them don’t realize how foolish their economic views are. They also are incredibly hostile to anyone who thinks government may be a solution. I said it the other day but libertarians talk a good game on civil rights but they don’t want the government to be able to enforce it. That frankly half the battle.

Another thing that I like to say to infuriate the anarchists, I mean libertarians, is to tell them that government is just a tool and so is neither good nor evil. Government has no ethical qualities at all.

Only people can be good or evil.

I think I’ve caused a few some mental anguish as they try to process that idea.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:03:57am

re: #183 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

DoD Orders Police Nationwide to Give Back Grenade Launchers, Bayonets, & Tanks

Boyz have to give back their toyz!!!

I have been hearing ads on local radio for AM General and I’m like WHO ARE THEY TARGETING WITH THESE COMMERCIALS?

Local police departments, that’s who.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:04:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:04:30am

re: #189 Romantic Heretic

Another thing that I like to say to infuriate the anarchists, I mean libertarians, is to tell them that government is just a tool and so is neither good nor evil. Government has no ethical qualities at all.

Only people can be good or evil.

I think I’ve caused a few some mental anguish as they try to process that idea.

Government is a tool, you know, like a gun.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:05:42am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

Government is a tool, you know, like a gun.

All it takes to stop a bad guy with a government is a good guy with a government.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:05:48am

re: #189 Romantic Heretic

Another thing that I like to say to infuriate the anarchists, I mean libertarians, is to tell them that government is just a tool and so is neither good nor evil. Government has no ethical qualities at all.

Only people can be good or evil.

I think I’ve caused a few some mental anguish as they try to process that idea.

You’d be right about that. A lot of honestly are good people but I really think they have heard so much claptrap about government bad this and government bad that they don’t think ti through. I’ve known more libertarians than most people do due to my alma mater’s economics department.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:06:27am

re: #191 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Hey that’s not fair, I’m only on my third iPhone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:06:36am

re: #193 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

All it takes to stop a bad guy with a government is a good guy with a government.

LOL

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:07:51am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:08:28am

I see Jeb Bush complained about the criticism of the Redskins name again. Jeb, I am sure there will be a coaching vacancy soon though I thought you Bushes were more in to baseball.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:08:50am
White supremacy is a fascinating term. It’s come to represent extreme racial antipathy, the sort of overt racism practiced by the KKK and certain basketball team owners and presidential candidates. But at its core, white supremacy nothing more or less than the belief in the superiority of whiteness and the institutionalization, explicit or otherwise, of that superiority throughout society’s structures. And that doesn’t just mean the inherent superiority of white people. It also includes the superiority of white perspectives.
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:09:35am

re: #193 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

All it takes to stop a bad guy with a government is a good guy with a government.

That actually made sense to me.

I think I need moar coffeeeee!!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:12:59am

File this under: Things you won’t hear on Fox “news”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:13:59am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

File this under: Things you won’t hear on Fox “news”

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Scott Walker (D)

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:16:34am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:16:43am

regarding Boyz returning their Toyz:

Over the past decade, police departments have been using the 1033 program to acquire these weapons of war. The feds provided surplus military hardware to local police to fight a seeming war against its own citizens. These actions went unchecked and very little government, or public oversight existed.

Who made the kickback on this one?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:18:23am

The Keene police could have broken up that pumpkin riot last year right away if they had had a decent flamethrower.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:18:25am

Research Gone Wild: Crazy Cats
Are those with pet cats more likely to develop schizophrenia?

no

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:19:25am

There is a pumpkin halloween decoration out this year that is blue tooth enabled.

:)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:22:00am

Ben Shapiro is going on and on about CNN being the new “Friends of Hamas”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:22:49am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

File this under: Things you won’t hear on Fox “news”

ScottWalker Used Personal Email To Conduct State Business

You see? That’s why he dropped out of the presidential race: he knew that Fox News would tear him apart over allegations like that…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:23:15am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is going on and on about CNN being the new “Friends of Hamas”

TV Media is like high school girls on the phone playing the “he said, she said” drama, hour after hour after hour.

Fox is like the elementary aged kids in the back seat saying “HE’S TOUCHING ME!!!!!!!”

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:23:49am

re: #197 lawhawk

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Alternate title: Douche bag cop murders douche bag teen.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:24:44am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:26:40am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:28:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:29:09am
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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:32:34am

re: #213 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

You know, that reminds me. I was thinking this morning about all the anti-choice /pro-birth zealots who say life begins at conception - with some pointing to the possibility that say discoveries on Mars or elsewhere of cellular organisms are life as proof that life begins at conception.

Sperm are alive. Eggs are alive. Either can survive for periods of time without fertilization, but that isn’t the point at which these folks claim life begins. They’re pointing to fertilization, which means it’s not about life, but personhood.

And if we go that route, then the woman is subordinate to the zygote or embryo or fetus they’re carrying (depending on the time since fertilization). That means the woman is deprived rights as a result, and that should not be tolerated.

Most galling of all is fact that the same anti-choice/pro birth zealots don’t care what happens to the woman or child after birth. Or health of the woman while she is pregnant for that matter. They’re left to the whims of society that they want to deprive of safety net programs that would feed, educate, and otherwise nurture the child if the family (or woman) is unable to provide sufficient funds to do so on their (her) own.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:34:14am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:34:19am

re: #216 lawhawk

You know, that reminds me. I was thinking this morning about all the anti-choice /pro-birth zealots who say life begins at conception - with some pointing to the possibility that say discoveries on Mars or elsewhere of cellular organisms are life as proof that life begins at conception.

Sperm are alive. Eggs are alive. Either can survive for periods of time without fertilization, but that isn’t the point at which these folks claim life begins. They’re pointing to fertilization, which means it’s not about life, but personhood.

And if we go that route, then the woman is subordinate to the zygote or embryo or fetus they’re carrying (depending on the time since fertilization). That means the woman is deprived rights as a result, and that should not be tolerated.

Most galling of all is fact that the same anti-choice/pro birth zealots don’t care what happens to the woman or child after birth. Or health of the woman while she is pregnant for that matter. They’re left to the whims of society that they want to deprive of safety net programs that would feed, educate, and otherwise nurture the child if the family (or woman) is unable to provide sufficient funds to do so on their (her) own.

Yep, to them, women are not human.

Like I’ve been saying all along. I am either human or I am not. I have the vote, I pay taxes, I think that as far as civil rights go, I am human.

I don’t give a shit what the Pope thinks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:35:06am

re: #216 lawhawk

You know, that reminds me. I was thinking this morning about all the anti-choice /pro-birth zealots who say life begins at conception - with some pointing to the possibility that say discoveries on Mars or elsewhere of cellular organisms are life as proof that life begins at conception.

Sperm are alive. Eggs are alive. Either can survive for periods of time without fertilization, but that isn’t the point at which these folks claim life begins. They’re pointing to fertilization, which means it’s not about life, but personhood.

And if we go that route, then the woman is subordinate to the zygote or embryo or fetus they’re carrying (depending on the time since fertilization). That means the woman is deprived rights as a result, and that should not be tolerated.

Most galling of all is fact that the same anti-choice/pro birth zealots don’t care what happens to the woman or child after birth. Or health of the woman while she is pregnant for that matter. They’re left to the whims of society that they want to deprive of safety net programs that would feed, educate, and otherwise nurture the child if the family (or woman) is unable to provide sufficient funds to do so on their (her) own.

The latest wingnut fake outrage is Debbie Wasserman Schultz refusing to be sucked into a “gotcha” question from a reporter asking if her children were “human” before they were born.

Her refusal to answer that rancid pile of stupids was construed as HURR HURR SHE THINK HER OWN CHILDREN WERE NOT HUMAN WHILES THEY WAS TEH PRE-BORNED!!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:35:37am

Off to Frankfurt.

Another expat friend puts on an annual Christmas Eve dinner for the homeless. They are expecting a lot of visitors this year what with the refugee crisis, so a number of us are “banding” together to put on a fundraising concert for him and his dinner on Sunday.

Facebook link here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:36:27am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump is simply put a whiny baby.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:36:35am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:36:42am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:38:07am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

The latest wingnut fake outrage is Debbie Wasserman Schultz refusing to be sucked into a “gotcha” question from a reporter asking if her children were “human” before they were born.

Her refusal to answer that rancid pile of stupids was construed as HURR HURR SHE THINK HER OWN CHILDREN WERE NOT HUMAN WHILES THEY WAS TEH PRE-BORNED!!!!!!!!

Pelosi’s response was the best FU I’ve heard in a long time.
Is An Unborn Baby With A Human Heart A Human Being? Pelosi: ‘I Do Not Intend To Respond’

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:39:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:39:33am
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iossarian  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:39:38am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Famous quotes, the way a woman would have to say them during a meeting.

OK, so I saw that yesterday, and my grumble grumble take is that actually I have several female work superiors who talk bluntly in meetings, and it’s fine. I don’t think anyone thinks they’re particularly “bitchy” or “strident”. On the other hand, they also don’t come across as “feminine” or “nice”.

Furthermore, I have had conversations with women (not my superiors) in which they are worried that, if they speak up in a certain way, people will not like them. To which my response is: that’s not your problem; your problem is to get the work done you need to get done.

Having said all that, are women still discriminated against in the workplace, and do we need to work to change that? Yes and yes.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:40:50am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What an “old man” thing to say: “I can’t get stand up that long!”

Tell that to a cashier making $7.25, you piece of shit.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:41:49am

re: #223 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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That picture is just crying for a caption contest.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:42:03am

re: #228 Timothy Watson

What an “old man” thing to say: “I can’t get stand up that long!”

Tell that to a cashier making $7.25, you piece of shit.

or a waiter who makes below minimumwith tips.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:42:10am

Burn Notice:

While Fiorina, Kaisch, and Sanders are each running pretty lean operations - where they’re raising money and spending less, nearly all the GOPers are running deficits - spending more than they’re taking in. So much fiscal responsibility in so few candidates. Even Trump spent more than he took in.

Oh, and Sanders and Clinton each took in more than any of the GOPers, but Clinton’s burn rate was far higher than Sanders - 86% versus 43% for Sanders. That means that Sanders has more money on hand, which could pose an issue for Hillary down the road.

Then again, money looks to be a problem for nearly every GOPer. For instance, Paul raised $2.5 millon, but spend $4.5 million. Huckabee raised $1.2 million, but spent $1.3 million.

Walker, who left the race, actually ended up spending less than he took in - by about a million. If he was in disarray with that situation, you have to wonder how so many of those GOP campaigns are still operating.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:42:27am

re: #229 Timothy Watson

That picture is just crying for a caption contest.

My brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl … ?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:43:22am

re: #231 lawhawk

Hillary (and Bill) are sending daily emails asking for $1.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:44:21am

re: #232 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

My brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl … ?

I was thinking more Carson’s expression.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:44:28am

re: #228 Timothy Watson

What an “old man” thing to say: “I can’t get stand up that long!”

Tell that to a cashier making $7.25, you piece of shit.

Trump can surely pay for one of those frames that beauty queens on parade floats lean against. Or maybe he can fund development for one of those hover belts that Baron Harkonnen floated around in.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:44:59am

re: #227 iossarian

I wasn’t every groomed by my parents to be the sniveling female. A lot of people, mostly men, cannot handle being around me.

I am always polite, I ask questions, try to engage in intelligent conversation, but they don’t want that.

I think many think they can relax around a woman and don’t like it when I won’t play along.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:45:33am

The unorthodox presidential campaign of Ben Carson took another twist late Wednesday when the retired neurosurgeon announced he would temporarily suspend his campaign. Unfortunately he’s not doing this for the usual reasons one suspends a campaign - cratering poll numbers, a juicy sexual-harassment scandal, a sudden onset of sanity. No, Carson will instead step off the trail to spend a couple of weeks on a book tour supporting “A More Perfect Union,” his just-released guide to interpreting the Constitution for people who think Ben Carson ever knows what he’s talking about.

The reaction on the right has been one of utter befuddlement. A candidate does not take time off from the Bataan Death March that is a modern presidential campaign just to read a few pages of his book to a bunch of elderly wingnuts in the back corner of the Hackensack Barnes and Noble. Especially not when he is in second place in the polls, nearly even with the frontrunner and far ahead of the rest of the pack. And he got there with hardly doing any traditional campaigning. Why stop now?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:45:51am

re: #229 Timothy Watson

That picture is just crying for a caption contest.

Paramount announces Three Stooges remake starring Ben Carson, Donald Trump, and Jeb Bush to be directed by Reince Preibus

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:46:06am

re: #224 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Pelosi’s response was the best FU I’ve heard in a long time.
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“you can take your … .”

Damn, I love her attitude. I’ve watched this over and over again. It’s worth studying.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:47:21am

re: #231 lawhawk

Burn Notice:

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While Fiorina, Kaisch, and Sanders are each running pretty lean operations - where they’re raising money and spending less, nearly all the GOPers are running deficits - spending more than they’re taking in. So much fiscal responsibility in so few candidates. Even Trump spent more than he took in.

Oh, and Sanders and Clinton each took in more than any of the GOPers, but Clinton’s burn rate was far higher than Sanders - 86% versus 43% for Sanders. That means that Sanders has more money on hand, which could pose an issue for Hillary down the road.

Then again, money looks to be a problem for nearly every GOPer. For instance, Paul raised $2.5 millon, but spend $4.5 million. Huckabee raised $1.2 million, but spent $1.3 million.

Walker, who left the race, actually ended up spending less than he took in - by about a million. If he was in disarray with that situation, you have to wonder how so many of those GOP campaigns are still operating.

Yet this is the supposedly fiscally conservative party. How can we expect them to be fiscally conservative with the government when they’re not even with their own wallets? How ironic that the socialist Sanders is probably the most smat with their money.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:47:57am

re: #65 Timothy Watson

Stupid question…what were Wayne Simmons’s “prior arrests and criminal convictions”?

And, are we to believe that no one at Faux News or anywhere else ever bothered to run a background check on this guy and never discovered his criminal record?

They hired the same people who vetted Sarah Palin and did the background check on Edward Snowden.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:47:59am

re: #237 Dr. Matt

Comparing the Baatan Death March to a Presidential campaign?

I really have issues with that. I knew someone that survived that march.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:49:01am

re: #242 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Comparing the Baatan Death March to a Presidential campaign?

I really have issues with that. I knew someone that survived that march.

I think there was another candidate four years ago that made a similarly ignorant comment. Not sure but I swear I remember heraing a moron compare a political campaign to the death march once before.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:49:36am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Or a fast food worker making min wage that are on their feet for 8 - 12 hours. Fuck that pampered POS.

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iossarian  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:50:07am

re: #236 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I agree there is definitely a difference in perception between men’s and women’s behavior, but I think it can also be more nuanced than people think, because part of the difference is that women (in general) notice more when men react negatively to them. I have known many men in the work environment who piss people off with their attitude, but they simply don’t notice (or pretend not to), and it doesn’t necessarily make them bad at their jobs. That goes back to my comment about women saying things like “he really didn’t like it when I said X”, and my response being “who cares - if you need to say X then you say X.”

It also probably depends a lot on the industry and function - in higher ed there are a lot of female administrators so there’s probably more room for different forms of self-expression.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:50:59am

Baby in Chief, starring Donald and Melania Trump.

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:51:26am

re: #191 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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I know there’s not that many Millennials on this site, but for the ones that are here: please accept my heartfelt apologies for all the condescending putdowns disguised as journalism Gen Xers constantly write.

I remember how ignorant it was when Baby Boomer did it to us. It just kills me to see my generation turn around pull the same kind of bullshit to the younger crowd.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:51:56am

re: #242 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Comparing the Baatan Death March to a Presidential campaign?

I really have issues with that. I knew someone that survived that march.

I just registered at Salon to leave a comment to that effect.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:51:58am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I think there was another candidate four years ago that made a similarly ignorant comment. Not sure but I swear I remember heraing a moron compare a political campaign to the death march once before.

March 28, 2008: Comparing the Campaign To ‘The Bataan Death March’

Obama, at a fundraiser, last night: “For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it’s like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright.

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Belafon  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:52:00am

re: #191 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I missed the wearing plaid phase; I was wearing a uniform that entire time.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:53:04am

re: #245 iossarian

I agree there is definitely a difference in perception between men’s and women’s behavior, but I think it can also be more nuanced than people think, because part of the difference is that women (in general) notice more when men react negatively to them. I have known many men in the work environment who piss people off with their attitude, but they simply don’t notice (or pretend not to), and it doesn’t necessarily make them bad at their jobs. That goes back to my comment about women saying things like “he really didn’t like it when I said X”, and my response being “who cares - if you need to say X then you say X.”

It also probably depends a lot on the industry and function - in higher ed there are a lot of female administrators so there’s probably more room for different forms of self-expression.

Maybe that’s it. I don’t register things that upset many women. It is very hard to offend me. Humans have different conversational style, I can’t take it personally.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:53:20am

re: #247 Mattand

I know there’s not that many Millennials on this site, but for the ones that are here: please accept my heartfelt apologies for all the condescending putdowns disguised as journalism Gen Xers constantly write.

I remember how ignorant it was when Baby Boomer did it to us. It just kills me to see my generation turn around pull the same kind of bullshit to the younger crowd.

Nothing to apologize for since you don’t engage in it. I’m sure some of us end up doing it to the next generation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:53:51am

re: #250 Belafon

I missed the wearing plaid phase; I was wearing a uniform that entire time.

I’m wearing plaid right now and have a beard growing go figure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:54:17am

re: #244 Eventual Carrion

Or a fast food worker making min wage that are on their feet for 8 - 12 hours. Fuck that pampered POS.

Frequent response for this meme
HURR HURR THAT JERB SO EASY ANYONE CAN DO IT!!! NO SKILLS NEEDED, THEY DON’T DESERVES $15/HR ROBOTS WILL TAKE THERE LAZY MOOCHER PLACE!!!!!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:54:28am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

March 28, 2008: Comparing the Campaign To ‘The Bataan Death March’

Obama, at a fundraiser, last night: “For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it’s like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright.

I missed that. It wasn’t appropriate then and it isn’t appropriate now.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:55:23am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

March 28, 2008: Comparing the Campaign To ‘The Bataan Death March’

Obama, at a fundraiser, last night: “For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it’s like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright.

Hmmm what I am remembering is more recent than that since I didn’t really pay that much attention to the 2008 primary since I was busy with school at that time. STupid analogy in any case.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:55:49am

re: #255 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I missed that. It wasn’t appropriate then and it isn’t appropriate now.

The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:56:36am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

A job so easy that if you don’t get food properly cooked/prepared, the purchaser complains at a minimum, or gets sick (or dies) - as say with undercooked chicken or beef, improperly handled food, etc.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:56:47am

re: #250 Belafon

I missed the wearing plaid phase; I was wearing a uniform that entire time.

I was on active duty too. I still owned and wore flannel. But, It didn’t quite look as “cool” and “grunge” with a military reg haircut.

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Belafon  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:57:02am

re: #231 lawhawk

Burn Notice:

While Fiorina, Kaisch, and Sanders are each running pretty lean operations - where they’re raising money and spending less, nearly all the GOPers are running deficits - spending more than they’re taking in. So much fiscal responsibility in so few candidates. Even Trump spent more than he took in.

Oh, and Sanders and Clinton each took in more than any of the GOPers, but Clinton’s burn rate was far higher than Sanders - 86% versus 43% for Sanders. That means that Sanders has more money on hand, which could pose an issue for Hillary down the road.

Then again, money looks to be a problem for nearly every GOPer. For instance, Paul raised $2.5 millon, but spend $4.5 million. Huckabee raised $1.2 million, but spent $1.3 million.

Walker, who left the race, actually ended up spending less than he took in - by about a million. If he was in disarray with that situation, you have to wonder how so many of those GOP campaigns are still operating.

From what I’ve read, a lot of Clinton’s burn is setting up field operations, which will be useful in the general. She’s renting places and paying for operatives. I understand that Sanders is doing this as well, just not at her rate.

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:57:25am

re: #250 Belafon

I missed the wearing plaid phase; I was wearing a uniform that entire time.

I did not wear one stitch of flannel the entire time. I will cop to wearing some acid washed jeans, though.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:58:10am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Hmmm what I am remembering is more recent than that since I didn’t really pay that much attention to the 2008 primary since I was busy with school at that time. STupid analogy in any case.

Yeah. Very dumb analogy. People with good intentions sometimes say dumb things. Meanwhile, idiots like Trump and Carson say dumb things all the time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:58:47am

re: #258 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Study says there’s NO state where a single adult can live on less than $14/hr working a 40-hour week

No shit. I live in Mississippi which has one of the LOWEST costs of living anywhere in the country. I struggled getting by even when making $10/hr and that’s still well ABOVE minimum wage.

This is what happens when wages stagnate for 30 fucking years and yet we still have a major political party trying to drive wages LOWER.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:59:21am

re: #259 lawhawk

A job so easy that if you don’t get food properly cooked/prepared, the purchaser complains at a minimum, or gets sick (or dies) - as say with undercooked chicken or beef, improperly handled food, etc.

Wingnuts have this fantasy that automation will replace every last minimum wage jerb, but they don’t want any social safety net for the millions who will have no means of support when this happens.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 7:59:41am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

Yeah. Very dumb analogy. People with good intentions sometimes say dumb things. Meanwhile, idiots like Trump and Carson say dumb things all the time.

Right which is why I’ll cut him some slack that I won’t to Trump or Carson. That does remind me though. We were coming up with slogans to encourage people to vote one day and maybe it’s the descendant of those who lived in the era of machine politics in me but I blurted out “Vote early, vote often.” Professor with his best Georgia accent said “Maybe not that.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:00:27am

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

No shit. I live in Mississippi which has one of the LOWEST costs of living anywhere in the country. I struggled getting by even when making $10/hr and that’s still well ABOVE minimum wage.

This is what happens when wages stagnate for 30 fucking years and yet we still have a major political party trying to drive wages LOWER.

Right, they not only oppose increasing the MW but many of them its very existence. That’s the problem with cons. They just aren’t reasonable on real issues.

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iossarian  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:01:04am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

Yeah. Very dumb analogy. People with good intentions sometimes say dumb things. Meanwhile, idiots like Trump and Carson say dumb things all the time.

It’s one of those things that people can be excused for saying until someone points out that it’s offensive.

Cool Story Bro time: I once had a pub companion totally convinced (and mortified) that I had lost a family member in the Troubles and was thus deeply offended by his offer to purchase a round of Irish Car Bombs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:01:30am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Right, they not only oppose increasing the MW but many of them its very existence. That’s the problem with cons. They just aren’t reasonable on real issues.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:01:32am

re: #259 lawhawk

A job so easy that if you don’t get food properly cooked/prepared, the purchaser complains at a minimum, or gets sick (or dies) - as say with undercooked chicken or beef, improperly handled food, etc.

I have to admit even though I make more than a fast food worker, their job is a lot difficult than mine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:01:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:02:09am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:02:30am

you lost that coal mining feeling and now it’s gone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:02:43am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:02:47am

re: #258 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Study says there’s NO state where a single adult can live on less than $14/hr working a 40-hour week

Of course most RWNJs see info like this and are all like: DUR HUR! If you can’t make it on one job than get a SECOND job..

I’ve been working my ass doing OT the past few years trying to get ahead and while have achieved a measure of financial stability, I have done so at the cost of missing birthday parties, weddings, funerals, major sports events, church events, my nephews football games, visits from out of town friends, the list goes on and on.

I’m always the guy who can’t make it because he had to work. I know some of that is self inflicted (the OT IS voluntary) but when I can barely keep things together without it what choice do I have?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:04:02am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

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Wait so states can just pass a law and pay below the Federal minimum wage? How the fuck does that work?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:04:59am

Frankly the idea that if you got rid of the minimum wage, wages would go up is just crap. We see how little employers are willing to pay employees as is. Gutting the MW would bring back the Gilded Age era. And honestly, I think it should be mandated that interns be paid. I’ve been an intern. Interns work just as hard as full time employees and in some cases harder since they’re trying to prove themselves to make a good impression and maybe get a full time job with the firm, agency, or whatever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:05:22am

I am unionized and VERY lucky to be so here in the Deep South.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:05:35am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait so states can just pass a law and pay below the Federal minimum wage? How the fuck does that work?

I’ve never really understood that either.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:06:36am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait so states can just pass a law and pay below the Federal minimum wage? How the fuck does that work?

IIRC, the federal rate only applies to certain businesses (over x employees, certain industries, etc.), so if they don’t fall under the federal criteria, they might fall under the state’s which only require a lower wage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:06:37am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I am unionized and VERY lucky to be so here in the Deep South.

Wow I had no idea there were actually unions in MS. You must work for a company whose headquarters are in a unionized state. The grocery store (my first paying job) I worked at was unionized but some of the other ones were not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:06:42am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Frankly the idea that if you got rid of the minimum wage, wages would go up is just crap. We see how little employers are willing to pay employees as is. Gutting the MW would bring back the Gilded Age era. And honestly, I think it should be mandated that interns be paid. I’ve been an intern. Interns work just as hard as full time employees and in some cases harder since they’re trying to prove themselves to make a good impression and maybe get a full time job with the firm, agency, or whatever.

Right and I’ve seen companies that will bring in an intern for a year or so, get all the free labor they can out of them, then toss them out the door and bring in another intern for a year or so….lather, rinse, repeat.

Hey, why pay for what you can get for free right?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:06:56am

re: #280 Timothy Watson

IIRC, the federal rate only applies to certain businesses (over x employees, certain industries, etc.), so if they don’t fall under the federal criteria, they might fall under the state’s which require a lower wage.

Ah that makes sense. Thanks.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:07:06am

Plan to Defect Cited in Fatal Beating at New York Church

He and other neighbors said they would regularly talk to Ms. Leonard, who would sometimes borrow sugar or lend an onion. But the children, even the older ones, did not seem to be allowed to watch television, Mr. Constantine said. Once, he said, his wife had given them a Disney cartoon, but they were not allowed to watch it because “Mickey Mouse never married Minnie Mouse.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:07:25am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Frankly the idea that if you got rid of the minimum wage, wages would go up is just crap. We see how little employers are willing to pay employees as is. Gutting the MW would bring back the Gilded Age era. And honestly, I think it should be mandated that interns be paid. I’ve been an intern. Interns work just as hard as full time employees and in some cases harder since they’re trying to prove themselves to make a good impression and maybe get a full time job with the firm, agency, or whatever.

HURR HURR MINIMUM WAGE WOULD MAKE SOME SMALL BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS IF THAY HAS 2 PAY THERE LAZY UNSKILLED TEENAGERS A LIVING WAGE JUST FOR THEM TO TAKES THERE STEADY GAL OUT TO TEH SWEETE SHOPPE!!! HOW WILL TEH UNSKILLED TEEN AGERS GET THERE FIRST JERB IF THEY HAS TO GET PAYED WHY DONTS WE ALL MAKE TEH MINIMUM WAGE $1000/HR THEN EVERYWUN CANN BE RICH HURR HURR!!!!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:07:51am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Wow I had no idea there were actually unions in MS. You must work for a company whose headquarters are in a unionized state. The grocery store (my first paying job) I worked at was unionized but some of the other ones were not.

I don’t want to get too specific but the company I work for actually has their HQ in ANOTHER Southern State. However, if you knew the company history, you’d understand where the Union comes in to the picture.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:08:19am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Right and I’ve seen companies that will bring in an intern for a year or so, get all the free labor they can out of them, then toss them out the door and bring in another intern for a year or so….lather, rinse, repeat.

Hey, why pay for what you can get for free right?

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It’s such crap and I have to tell you living in the DC area, we get a lot of interns that come in from out of town so it’s not like they can just stay with Mom and Dad.

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iossarian  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:08:20am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

The intern is a real issue in higher ed at the moment since it’s a further barrier to work for low-income students (even high-achieving ones) since they often can’t afford to take an unpaid internship as a (necessary) stepping stone to an eventual job.

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:09:25am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

That’s an outdated graphic.

This reflects the 2015 rates (see also the NCSL).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:09:36am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:09:56am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR MINIMUM WAGE WOULD MAKE SOME SMALL BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS IF THAY HAS 2 PAY THERE LAZY UNSKILLED TEENAGERS A LIVING WAGE JUST FOR THEM TO TAKES THERE STEADY GAL OUT TO TEH SWEETE SHOPPE!!! HOW WILL TEH UNSKILLED TEEN AGERS GET THERE FIRST JERB IF THEY HAS TO GET PAYED WHY DONTS WE ALL MAKE TEH MINIMUM WAGE $1000/HR THEN EVERYWUN CANN BE RICH HURR HURR!!!!!!!!

It is just so stupid. And frankly we should be paying teenagers more. Teenagers need money too. And frankly paying them a good wage will also teach them financial skills. I see no downside to an economy that pays its workers a decent wage. The only reason for opposing decent wages is so the bosses can get a little more rich.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:10:25am

re: #180 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Open Letter to Ben Carson From Fellow Seventh-day Adventist: Stop the Islamophobia

Good luck with that. I still clearly recall talking to one who was going door-to-door who told me quite confidently that the Jews were going to get what was coming to them.

(A very nice, polite, and soft-spoken middle-aged black man. Hearing that coming from him was a bit of a shock. And it was pretty much the last time I answered the door when they came around the neighborhood.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:10:51am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

It is just so stupid. And frankly we should be paying teenagers more. Teenagers need money too. And frankly paying them a good wage will also teach them financial skills. I see no downside to an economy that pays its workers a decent wage. The only reason for opposing decent wages is so the bosses can get a little more rich.

Everything you see in wingnut font has been said to me by actual wingnuts on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:11:14am

re: #288 iossarian

The intern is a real issue in higher ed at the moment since it’s a further barrier to work for low-income students (even high-achieving ones) since they often can’t afford to take an unpaid internship as a (necessary) stepping stone to an eventual job.

Yep. I’ve had two internships since I graduated.it really is just crap. Pay interns a wage. End of sentence.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:11:45am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Everything you see in wingnut font has been said to me by actual wingnuts on Twitter.

Oh I know, believe me I know since my alma mater’s economics department was filled with people who think like that.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:13:25am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

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Ahhh, the poor Donald, he paid some accountant who probably reduced his effective rate of taxation to 20%.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:14:29am

IIRC, Employees are the single most expensive line-item on the expense side any company’s balance sheet.

It only makes sense to cut expenses whenever possible.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:14:52am

I don’t hate employers but I refuse to see them as these benevolent entities who are giving me a job from the kindness of their heart. No, they’re giving me a job because a business, firm, or whatever can’t do everything themselves. The executive would be nothing without those below him not vice versa. What good is your idea and product if you don’t have people to sell it, maintain it, etc. See the problem with wingnuts is they see things the opposite. They think it’s all about the executive. Lincoln had a saying about labor being superior to capital and this was right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:16:11am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

I don’t hate employers but I refuse to see them as these benevolent entities who are giving me a job from the kindness of their heart. No, they’re giving me a job because a business, firm, or whatever can’t do everything themselves. The executive would be nothing without those below him not vice versa. What good is your idea and product if you don’t have people to sell it, maintain it, etc. See the problem with wingnuts is they see things the opposite. They think it’s all about the executive. Lincoln had a saying about labor being superior to capital and this was right.

That is because they have bought into the Ayn Rand stinking pile of bullshit.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:16:23am
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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:16:47am

I don’t know about you, but I’m breathlessly awaiting the latest legal wonderments concocted by Chucky’s lawyers that are due today. I can’t wait to see how they justify all the delays. This better be some Grade A legal argumenting or else the judge is gonna throw some serious shade.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:17:22am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

March 28, 2008: Comparing the Campaign To ‘The Bataan Death March’

Obama, at a fundraiser, last night: “For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it’s like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright.

Long grueling march, followed by the survivor being imprisoned in the White House for four years under horrible conditions and demands from their captors.
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:17:25am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

That is because they have bought into the Ayn Rand stinking pile of bullshit.

Precisely. And Ayn Rand was nothing more than a nutjob who wanted to come up with something that was anathema to Soviet style communism as possible but frankly even the system of the USSR in the 20’s wasn’t as radical as what she believed since NEP was not a total destructon of private property ownership.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:17:39am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:18:55am

Here’s my thing: Ok, let’s say I run a store and I decide to basically be a dick and say “Ok, I’m going to pay EVERYONE who works for me minimum wage and that’s it!”.

Sure, I’d save a ton of money on payroll, but then I’d be stuck with employees who don’t really give a shit (because I pay them so little) and as a result they won’t be working hard to get sales (costing me money), they won’t care about the accuracy of inventory (creating loss and costing me money), they won’t feel obligated to do anything to stop shoplifting (costing me money) and, paying those wages, I’d probably have a reasonably high turnover (costing me money).

Seems to me it would make more sense to pay decent wages to hire in and retain a competent work force to benefit me in the long term than it would to cut wages to the bone which would help me in the short term but ultimately do more harm than good.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:19:21am
It’s clear why Republican leadership might not want people to hear that the anti-choice movement, at its core, is about trying to end the practice of sex for pleasure. But this is the Donald Trump screw-it era, so it’s no surprise to see people like Miller let the truth leak out. It must feel like a real moment of unburdening yourself.

A similar thing is going on with race, as white supremacists are increasingly pushing back against conservative efforts to silence them. One especially telling example from this week: The former head of the Arizona Republican Party, Randy Pullen, took to Twitter to argue that the government should “take guns away from blacks as they are the main killers.”</blockquote>

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:20:06am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my thing: Ok, let’s say I run a store I decide to basically be a dick and say “Ok, I’m going to pay EVERYONE who works for me minimum wage and that’s it!”.

Sure, I’d save a ton of money on payroll, but then I’d be stuck with employees who don’t really give a shit (because I pay them so little) and as a result they won’t be working hard to get sales (costing me money), they won’t care about the accuracy of inventory (creating loss and costing me money), they won’t feel obligated to do anything to stop shoplifting (costing me money) and, paying those wages, I’d probably have a reasonably high turnover (costing me money).

Seems to me it would make more sense to pay decent wages to hire in and retain a competent work force to benefit me in the long term than it would to cut wages to the bone which would help me in the short term but ultimately do more harm than good.

the higher ups and shareholders look only at the bottom line. Nothing more, nothing less. Telling them that they are penny wise and pound foolish is too complex an idea for them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:21:28am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s clear why Republican leadership might not want people to hear that the anti-choice movement, at its core, is about trying to end the practice of sex for pleasure. But this is the Donald Trump screw-it era, so it’s no surprise to see people like Miller let the truth leak out. It must feel like a real moment of unburdening yourself.

Are these the same Republicans that cause a spike in revenue for Adult services every time they roll into town for a conference?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:22:12am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my thing: Ok, let’s say I run a store and I decide to basically be a dick and say “Ok, I’m going to pay EVERYONE who works for me minimum wage and that’s it!”.

Sure, I’d save a ton of money on payroll, but then I’d be stuck with employees who don’t really give a shit (because I pay them so little) and as a result they won’t be working hard to get sales (costing me money), they won’t care about the accuracy of inventory (creating loss and costing me money), they won’t feel obligated to do anything to stop shoplifting (costing me money) and, paying those wages, I’d probably have a reasonably high turnover (costing me money).

Seems to me it would make more sense to pay decent wages to hire in and retain a competent work force to benefit me in the long term than it would to cut wages to the bone which would help me in the short term but ultimately do more harm than good.

That’s pretty much what the Costco CEO said. Now I liked Costco before but that made me a big fan.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:22:42am

hurt us when we are young, hurt us when we are old …

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:23:09am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my thing: Ok, let’s say I run a store and I decide to basically be a dick and say “Ok, I’m going to pay EVERYONE who works for me minimum wage and that’s it!”.

Sure, I’d save a ton of money on payroll, but then I’d be stuck with employees who don’t really give a shit (because I pay them so little) and as a result they won’t be working hard to get sales (costing me money), they won’t care about the accuracy of inventory (creating loss and costing me money), they won’t feel obligated to do anything to stop shoplifting (costing me money) and, paying those wages, I’d probably have a reasonably high turnover (costing me money).

Seems to me it would make more sense to pay decent wages to hire in and retain a competent work force to benefit me in the long term than it would to cut wages to the bone which would help me in the short term but ultimately do more harm than good.

Shh. You’re raining on the desired narrative by actually thinking about the issue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:24:28am

You’d also have people taking in less money for things like welfare if you encouraged decent wages too but shhh that’s another thing they don’t want you thinking about.

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iossarian  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:25:15am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s sort of true but it’s also, interestingly, the argument that a bright person might make against minimum wage laws: namely that they’re unnecessary since a self-interested employer will in any case want to hire good employees and therefore will pay them adequately.

The problem is that, given the current concentration of wealth and hiring ability, there isn’t enough competition for labor for that to actually work. You can hire well-qualified people to work for you for very little at the moment because they have no other means of supporting themselves.

The other issue is that large corporations are often overly-focused on short-term profitability since that’s what’s rewarded in the current macro-economic set up. Walmart is a classic example of this: they have crap shop-floor employee morale but it doesn’t hurt them particularly since they’ve won early and often enough to be able to blow any potential competitors out of the water.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:25:23am

And higher wages would also cause - GASP! - MORE money to be pumped into the economy!

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lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:25:42am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Employee retention is a big problem at companies - if you don’t pay them enough, they’ll seek out better opportunities elsewhere. It costs a significant amount of money to train people for certain kinds of jobs, so if you’re paying them crap wages, they’ll go elsewhere at the drop of the hat and turnover means higher costs as a result.

Costco realized this early on and pays more than minimum wage, so they have a lower than average turnover rate.

That affects the bottom line overall - in a positive fashion.

Other companies that don’t focus on this aspect end up paying higher costs through HR, turnover, and training over time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:25:55am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my thing: Ok, let’s say I run a store and I decide to basically be a dick and say “Ok, I’m going to pay EVERYONE who works for me minimum wage and that’s it!”.

Sure, I’d save a ton of money on payroll, but then I’d be stuck with employees who don’t really give a shit (because I pay them so little) and as a result they won’t be working hard to get sales (costing me money), they won’t care about the accuracy of inventory (creating loss and costing me money), they won’t feel obligated to do anything to stop shoplifting (costing me money) and, paying those wages, I’d probably have a reasonably high turnover (costing me money).

Seems to me it would make more sense to pay decent wages to hire in and retain a competent work force to benefit me in the long term than it would to cut wages to the bone which would help me in the short term but ultimately do more harm than good.

Yesterday I had a “conversation” with a wingnut who kept repeating HURR HURR IF THEY DON’TS LIKE WHAT WALMART IS PAYING THEN GO WORK SOMEWEAR ELSE!!!!!!

and

HURR HURR NO MOAR FOOD STAMPS FOR TEH LAZY MOOCHERS BUT WALMARTS IS FREE MARKET HEROS FOR THERE FOOD STAMPS BUSINESS PLAN MAKIN BILLIONS FOR THERE SHAIR HOLDORS!!!!

and

HURR HURR UR A LIBRATD MOOCHER TAKIN TEH WELFARES & TEH FOOD STAMPS OUTTA MY HARD ERNED TAX MONEYS WHAT TEH FEDRUL GUBMIT IS STEALING FROM MEEE4!!!!!1!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:26:04am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

And higher wages would also cause - GASP! - MORE money to be pumped into the economy!

Precisely.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:26:25am

re: #315 lawhawk

Employee retention is a big problem at companies - if you don’t pay them enough, they’ll seek out better opportunities elsewhere. It costs a significant amount of money to train people for certain kinds of jobs, so if you’re paying them crap wages, they’ll go elsewhere at the drop of the hat and turnover means higher costs as a result.

Costco realized this early on and pays more than minimum wage, so they have a lower than average turnover rate.

That affects the bottom line overall - in a positive fashion.

Other companies that don’t focus on this aspect end up paying higher costs through HR, turnover, and training over time.

It depends on how they are playing the tax and benefits game.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:26:40am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know how you handle those people without your brain turning to mush.

/

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:27:07am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:27:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:28:08am

re: #315 lawhawk

Employee retention is a big problem at companies - if you don’t pay them enough, they’ll seek out better opportunities elsewhere. It costs a significant amount of money to train people for certain kinds of jobs, so if you’re paying them crap wages, they’ll go elsewhere at the drop of the hat and turnover means higher costs as a result.

Costco realized this early on and pays more than minimum wage, so they have a lower than average turnover rate.

That affects the bottom line overall - in a positive fashion.

Other companies that don’t focus on this aspect end up paying higher costs through HR, turnover, and training over time.

Yes, that exactly. Really especially when you’re dealing with things like food. You need to create an atmosphere where I want to work there and hell would encourage my friends to do so. You pay me like shit. I’m not going to recommend you to my friends and I’m probably less likely to shop there too. Workers are consumers too. Costco gets it so much and it was so refreshing to see an executive flat out say that he did NOT need a huge ass salary in order for his company to be successful. I don’t mind the high wages. I do mind the fucking over working people.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:28:15am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:28:25am

bbl

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:28:33am

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know how you handle those people without your brain turning to mush.

/

After I have finished playing with them I block them and it’s very satisfying.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:28:56am

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know how you handle those people without your brain turning to mush.

/

She’s got a ton of children and grandchildren, I am sure that gives her a higher threshold of putting up with nonsense than most of us myself included do.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:29:33am

re: #307 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

the higher ups and shareholders look only at the bottom line. Nothing more, nothing less. Telling them that they are penny wise and pound foolish is too complex an idea for them.

And a lot of upper level execs have their bonuses tied directly to short-term bottom line performance. So actions that are *bad* for the company as a whole in both the short- and long- term might well be of benefit to themselves. Which is why ethics is something that needs to be heavily driven home somewhere in the education system since a peaceful society pretty much depends on cooperation and altruistic thought. Or at least some thought being given towards actions that benefit the whole.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:29:51am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

She’s got a ton of children and grandchildren, I am sure that gives her a higher threshold of putting up with nonsense than most of us myself included do.

Hahahaha. Point taken.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:31:09am

re: #321 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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LET ME AT HIM, BRO!!!

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ObserverArt  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:32:09am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Nothing to apologize for since you don’t engage in it. I’m sure some of us end up doing it to the next generation.

I think this will be a sure thing.

It is a cycle that I bet you can find in writings that go back as far as humans were able to communicate.

Damn kids…get out of my cave!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:32:49am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:35:33am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What happens to the money if he suspends his Presidential campaign before spending it all?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:35:57am

re: #330 ObserverArt

I think this will be a sure thing.

It is a cycle that I bet you can find in writings that go back as far as humans were able to communicate.

Damn kids…get out of my cave!!!

You Augustians always complain. Us Julians never did such a thing but yeah joking aside, it really is I think human nature which is while it does annoy me, I don’t think Matt needed to apologize to me or any of the other millenails here. I just wish the older generation would realize that yeah while we do have smart phones and things like that, you also had some things that we never had. Someone posted their tutition rate for on semester in the mid 80s the other day and I spent more on my textbooks for my paralegal cert class. Now granted adjusted for inflation, it’s more but prices on things have risen.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:36:11am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can you feel the desperation?

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:37:12am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know it means much more to you than me, but I would so love to see Rand get shellacked in his Senate race, on top of his inevitable exit from the POTUS nomination clown show.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:37:48am

re: #335 Mattand

I know it means much more to you than me, but I would so love to see Rand get shellacked in his Senate race, on top of his inevitable exit from the POTUS nomination clown show.

The proverbial icing on the cake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:43:08am

re: #332 Feline Fearless Leader

What happens to the money if he suspends his Presidential campaign before spending it all?

pretty sure he’ll make certain to spend it all first.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:45:45am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Right and I’ve seen companies that will bring in an intern for a year or so, get all the free labor they can out of them, then toss them out the door and bring in another intern for a year or so….lather, rinse, repeat.

You also describe what happens in the tech side for companies using H1-B’s-except what happens in this scenario is the person leaves because he finds a new job that pays $0.10 more an hour, or they get sick and they have to replace the bodies they lose in order to fulfill the contract terms-so the on-shore folks go through the same nonsense every 6-9 months of training the offshore resources, they disappear, and a new wave comes in and gets retrained.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:49:26am

This just floated across the Twitters:
Buzz is kind of a douchebro

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:49:37am

so much butthurt:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:50:39am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much butthurt:

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You now own 150% of the shares for Springtime for Hitler.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:50:58am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much butthurt:

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Who was more butthurt? Jim Webb or the Berniebots?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:51:17am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

This just floated across the Twitters:
Buzz is kind of a douchebro

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Taken out? Rich words given that CCJ actually threatens people. Deray’s able to disagree with people without ruining their lives.

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ObserverArt  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:51:37am

It is my understanding that The Donald™ TRUMP® is losing some ground to Dr. Ben Crazy© in recent polling.

They have tried to show they are sympathetic buds while debating and supporting each with asking for CNBC to change up the debate setup, etc.

If Carson gets too close or even surpasses The Donald™ in polling, how long will it take for TRUMP® to go into attack mode and tell everyone that he would never have his brain touched by that loser Carson?

Is it wrong of me to want this to happen? Can I cheer for a Trump/Carson personality clash that will make the both of them look like total fools?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:51:48am

re: #330 ObserverArt

I think this will be a sure thing.

It is a cycle that I bet you can find in writings that go back as far as humans were able to communicate.

Damn kids…get out of my cave!!!

I’m reading Livy again. Just yesterday I read a passage where he mentions the new and unsettling disrespect of Roman youth for their elders.
Livy wrote his histories during the reign of Augustus. He died in AD 17.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:52:44am

re: #346 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m reading Livy again. Just yesterday I read a passage where he mentions the new and unsettling disrespect of Roman youth for their elders.
Livy wrote his histories during the reign of Augustus. He died in AD 17.

Hahhaha did you see my joke?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:53:05am

re: #345 ObserverArt

It is my understanding that The DonaldTM TRUMP(r) is losing some ground to Dr. Ben Crazy(c) in recent polling.

They have tried to show they are sympathetic buds while debating and supporting each with asking for CNBC to change up the debate setup, etc.

If Carson gets too close or even surpasses The DonaldTM in polling, how long will it take for TRUMP(r) to go into attack mode and tell everyone that he would never have his brain touched by that loser Carson?

Is it wrong of me to want this to happen? Can I cheer for a Trump/Carson personality clash that will make the both of them look like total fools?

It’s gonna be fun to watch in any case.

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:53:21am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

RNC head: We’re ‘cooked as a party’ if we don’t take the White House in 2016

Saw that earlier today.

Sure, they’re cooked. Just like there were in 2012.

And 2008.

That’s such bullshit. They’re not going anywhere, if for no other reason than all of the gerrymandering they’ve done to insure a lock on the House.

There is no bottom. To paraphrase something I read recently, the GOP hits rock bottom, decides “Shit, we’re nowhere near done here” and breaks out the heavy digging equipment to go further.

The only thing that’s going to happen is that they’re going to turn into a white nationalist hate group. Make that, a white nationalist hate group that’s finally honest about what they stand for.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:53:21am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much butthurt:

Jim Webb needs to follow in Lieberman’s footsteps and realize the Party doesn’t really want him around.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:53:33am

Say what you will about Goldwater, but it was his grandson being gay that caused him to become a supporter of LGBT rights.

The same can’t be said about other people apparently.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:54:36am

LOLWUT

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:54:45am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

LOL, I read “Not taken out by DeRay” as a good thing; the implication being that if DeRay “takes you out”, it’s because you’re a racist scum bag.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:55:55am

re: #349 Mattand

The GOP and their gerrymandered districts will allow them to remain relevant coupled with the fact that Democratic voters rarely show-up during midterm elections. Now if Dems were as dedicated to voting like the Repubs are, the GOP could be easily marginalized in a decade.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:56:27am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

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Say what you will about Goldwater, but it was his grandson being gay that caused him to become a supporter of LGBT rights.

The same can’t be said about other people apparently.

I wouldn’t let my son bring Pat Robetson to Thanksgiving dinner. Frankly this grandmother or grandfather shouldn’t be talking to a pathetic old bigot like Pat for advice. And yeah Goldwater does deserve props for seeing gay people as people especially knowing his generation. See, that’s why I don’t merely see gay rights positions as generational. Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, etc are all old enough to be Goldwater’s grandchildren and hold much more reactionary views about gay people than Barry did.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:56:40am

Wow, the stuff you find when you’re double checking your facts before posting:

”He was just pro-Constitution. If you look at the Constitution, it doesn’t say anything about having life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness — unless you’re gay. That’s what he saw — that we’d all be included in the whole American dream.” As for Mr. Conservative’s pro-choice stance, Mr. Ross [Goldwater’s grandson] pointed out that his grandmother — Barry Goldwater’s first wife (of 51 years) — had helped start Planned Parenthood in Arizona. ”My mother got an abortion when she was young,” Mr. Ross added. Though abortions were illegal in the 1950’s, she flew east with her parents’ help to get one.”Luckily we had the money to do that. I can’t imagine what someone with no money did then.”

nytimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:56:52am

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Fuck you Rand seriously. Fuck you.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:58:08am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Wow, the stuff you find when you’re double checking your facts before posting:

nytimes.com

I had heard about hat. George W Bush’s grandfather was on the board of directors at PP and H.W BUsh was pro-choice until that psotion was hurtful in the primaries. Barbara is stll pro-choice to this day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:58:28am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Fuck you Rand seriously. Fuck you.

You know what would cause mass democide?

Unregulated free market driving down wages, mass unemployment or people working for poverty pay, and the inevitable uprising which would be brutally crushed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 8:58:56am

re: #359 The Vicious Babushka

You know what would cause mass democide?

Unregulated free market driving down wages, mass unemployment or people working for poverty pay, and the inevitable uprising which would be brutally crushed.

Rand makes Coolidge look like a scoailsit with his views.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:01:45am

Even Reagan signed what was at that time one of the liberal laws on abortion in California. Like a lot of issues, the GOP’s about face on abortion was a cynical move. to get votes. Hell most evangelicals thought the Roe decision was a good one. The only group that has honestly consistently opposed Roe is the Catholic Church. Now I’ve got no love for that but ideological consistency is better than having supported legalized abortion but now likening it to the Holocaust.

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allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:01:47am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much butthurt:

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For quite some time now Hillary and Bernie have been pounding the pavement campaigning, raising money, and building election infrastructure. From what I can see Webb just showed up for a debate. They earned their platform to speak. He didn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:03:16am

re: #362 allegro

For quite some time now Hillary and Bernie have been pounding the pavement campaigning, raising money, and building election infrastructure. From what I can see Webb just showed up for a debate. They earned their platform to speak. He didn’t.

Webb is honestly lucky he was invited. If this was the GOP, he, Chaffee, and Marty would be at the little kid’s table. I lost all respect for Webb when he whined about the CSA flag being criticiized. His treatment of women is something to be said too.

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Mattand  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:03:49am

re: #362 allegro

For quite some time now Hillary and Bernie have been pounding the pavement campaigning, raising money, and building election infrastructure. From what I can see Webb just showed up for a debate. They earned their platform to speak. He didn’t.

I found his forehead frightening.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:04:05am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Okay since I see we got a couple of our resident Chicagoans here. I am planning a small trip to your fair city next summer en route to visit my brother and his family in Tahoe. Plan on seeing a Cubs game at Wrigley but lay it on me on good sights to see. Good restaurants and bars too. And good beaches too since I want one day to swim and enjoy all that.

Field Museum
Shedd Aquarium
Museum of Science and Industry
Art Institute of Chicago

Kuma’s Corner (Belmont Ave. location) for an awesome burger

The Bristol
Balena
Girl and The Goat
Lou Malnati’s for deep dish pizza
Avec
Gibson’s

Bring your appetite!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:04:27am

Jm Webb by th way was the first senatorial candidate I ever voted for. I will be grateful or him for beating GeorgeAllen but to be onest, George Allen beat George Allen by being George Allen in a Virginia that left the CSA values years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:05:38am

re: #365 GlutenFreeJesus

Field Museum
Shedd Aquarium
Museum of Science and Industry
Art Institute of Chicago

Kuma’s Corner (Belmont Ave. location) for an awesome burger

The Bristol
Balena
Girl and The Goat
Lou Malnati’s for deep dish pizza
Avec
Gibson’s

Bring your appetite!

YOu don’t have to worry about that, I love to eat. Thanks though. Sounds good. I actually have some distant familiy in Chicago that I’ve never met.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:08:18am

re: #354 Dr. Matt

The GOP and their gerrymandered districts will allow them to remain relevant coupled with the fact that Democratic voters rarely show-up during midterm elections. Now if Dems were as dedicated to voting like the Repubs are, the GOP could be easily marginalized in a decade.

If Democratic candidates staked out strong positions for a few things and then stayed with them then Democratic voters might be more motivated to turn out. Though the Republicans may be appalling, you do know what they stand for. With some Dems, it seems that the only things they stand for are “not a Republican,” and “elect me.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:09:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:09:20am

I just blocked this Twitter account because this is some weapons-grade Derp==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:10:13am

“Fighting 4 White Peeps”

I’m going to go all Ben Shapiro here and suggest that this person is not a Real Juice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:10:16am

re: #368 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If Democratic candidates staked out strong positions for a few things and then stayed with them then Democratic voters might be more motivated to turn out. Though the Republicans may be appalling, you do know what they stand for. With some Dems, it seems that the only things they stand for are “not a Republican,” and “elect me.”

Right, that’s why I don’t necessarily blame some people for staying home. Grimes, who ran against Mconnell being too chicken shit to admit actually voting for Obama pissed me off. I mean I get she had to distance herself from the president in a state like that but she could have been honest and ponted out that Kynsect which from what I understand Kentuckians love is the same as ACA.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:13:53am

re: #368 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If Democratic candidates staked out strong positions for a few things and then stayed with them then Democratic voters might be more motivated to turn out. Though the Republicans may be appalling, you do know what they stand for. With some Dems, it seems that the only things they stand for are “not a Republican,” and “elect me.”

Sorry, I just don’t think that’s the case. In Virginia’s 1st Congressional District we had Krystal Ball run against the Republican incumbent in 2010. Ball, who later would get a gig on MSNBC, is pretty liberal and outspoken. She only got 35% of the vote.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:14:04am

I see some lefties criticizie Clinton for running that way but I think Hillary has distinguished herself from the GOP.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:15:35am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Should be an interesting trip then! :)

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ObserverArt  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:15:48am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Wow, the stuff you find when you’re double checking your facts before posting:

nytimes.com

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I had heard about hat. George W Bush’s grandfather was on the board of directors at PP and H.W BUsh was pro-choice until that psotion was hurtful in the primaries. Barbara is stll pro-choice to this day.

Prime examples the Republican party is no longer really the Republican party. The old-style Republicans have been run out and replaced by zealots that carry the water for the ultra-rich and hide behind the Bible to do it.

I just wish old-time Republicans would really come to understand that and realize they are only wanted around for some extra votes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:16:14am

re: #373 Timothy Watson

Sorry, I just don’t think that’s the case. In Virginia’s 1st Congressional District we had Krystal Ball run against the Republican incumbent in 2010. Ball, who later would get a gig on MSNBC, is pretty liberal and outspoken. She only got 35% of the vote.

It’s not always the case but I do think thte Dem base would turnout more if the canidates ran more on what they were for rather than against. Isn’t VA-01 fiarly cosnervative? Not quite where in the state that is. I’m int the 10th.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:18:28am

re: #375 GlutenFreeJesus

Should be an interesting trip then! :)

YEah, I just met them on Facebook recently. Their grandmother and my grandfather were brother and sister. I really want to see more of the country, I have a crazy idea of doing a domestic trip like that every year or so with an international one thrown in too in some years.

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Varek Raith  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:18:51am

Webb haz a sad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:19:56am

re: #379 Varek Raith

Webb haz a sad.

I have to admit Varek. I didn’t like him orignally but he grew on me. I guesss the original first impression is the right one in this case.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:21:58am

re: #373 Timothy Watson

Sorry, I just don’t think that’s the case. In Virginia’s 1st Congressional District we had Krystal Ball run against the Republican incumbent in 2010. Ball, who later would get a gig on MSNBC, is pretty liberal and outspoken. She only got 35% of the vote.

The Republicans didn’t get into their gerrymandered catbird seat over night. Was Ball a strong campaigner? Martha Coakley managed to lose Teddy Kennedy’s seat because, whatever her ideas, she ran a shit campaign. Why she was allowed to fail is another question. That our party’s leadership was unable or unwilling to to do whatever it took to keep a high profile set speaks to problems at the top.

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Varek Raith  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:22:12am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I have to admit Varek. I didn’t like him orignally but he grew on me. I guesss the original first impression is the right one in this case.

It was him or Allen.
Easy choice.

383
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:22:50am

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:23:31am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

It’s not always the case but I do think thte Dem base would turnout more if the canidates ran more on what they were for rather than against. Isn’t VA-01 fiarly cosnervative? Not quite where in the state that is. I’m int the 10th.

Cook only has it at R+6, but this was 2010 we’re talking about, so I am betting all the old, white folks in the Northern Neck were just dying to get out and vote.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:24:50am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

[Embedded content]

It’s not every day that you see two dongs make a rite.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:25:28am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

[Embedded content]

…so a guy can be gay, but a woman is faking it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:25:29am
388
It's on his hat!  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:27:24am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

[Embedded content]

URGENT POLL: Steve Crowder claims to be “married” but he could be faking it. Vote and discuss.

Retweet - Agree
Favorite - Disagree

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:30:05am

re: #382 Varek Raith

It was him or Allen.
Easy choice.

Very but he did have a primary opponent who granted didn’t have the war hero status but much more Democratic bonafides.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:30:35am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

[Embedded content]

What a pair of weirdos.

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wrenchwench  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:30:53am

re: #386 Timothy Watson

…so a guy can be gay, but a woman is faking it?

Milo should explain Sappho.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:31:31am

re: #384 Timothy Watson

Cook only has it at R+6, but this was 2010 we’re talking about, so I am betting all the old, white folks in the Northern Neck were just dying to get out and vote.

Oh okay thought it was more than that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:32:00am

re: #391 wrenchwench

Milo should explain Sappho.

Biggest faker of all.//

394
Amory Blaine  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:33:51am

Outside of telling your manager you saw a shoplifter or whatever, do nothing to stop it. If the perp stabs you or you fall down and break your back you will be left holding the bag all on your own. Unless you are employed as a loss prevention stooge (they aren’t security guards). Then do whatever the contract says.

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ObserverArt  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:34:39am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder hearts Milo Yeahimadumbass
They should get lesbian-married to each other

[Embedded content]

You know, if you put these two brainiacs together and set them to thinking a black hole is sure to follow.

By the way, is this Milo’s attempt to say there are no lesbians to soft pedal his own mucked up sexual identity? Wasn’t it a week or so back he admitted he wasn’t really gay or something. If there are no lesbians, there might be no gays…so Milo is A-Okay in Milo world. A very frightening place.

Milo is a real live person borne out of Woody Allen’s shtick only a Brit. He is a nervous, insecure, pseudo intellectual that probably can’t tie his own shoes and drinks heavily to mask it.

Crowder? A simple idiot.

And people read this crap. God help us.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:34:41am

If lesbians don’t exist then how come they got their own island?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:35:04am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Oh okay thought it was more than that.

Anecdotally it does to me too, but that might just be the area that I live in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:37:32am
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Amory Blaine  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:37:35am

Nothing would destroy the collection of vile filth known as the conservative movement faster than giving them everything they want. Without food stamps half the workers in this country would be unable to pay their rent.

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wrenchwench  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:38:30am

[…]

Surprisingly, natural light did not have as big an influence as was thought.

Most people fell asleep on average 3.3 hours after sunset.

However, temperature was an important factor.

“What we saw was quite striking - that sleep is occurring during this period of falling temperature and when the temperature hits bottom, they wake up,” said Prof Siegel.

“This is quite surprising.”

And despite the fact that these traditional societies slept less than the National Sleep Foundation’s recommended seven to nine hours a night, the researchers said they did not grumble about being tired.

Insomnia was also extremely rare - and two of the groups did not even have a word for it.

[…]

Confirmation of my decision not to worry about getting 7 hours of sleep a night.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:39:13am

re: #397 Timothy Watson

Anecdotally it does to me too, but that might just be the area that I live in.

My own district is a swing one but where I live is red as hell. Dick Black’s state district.

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ObserverArt  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:39:55am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

The Progressive Mind @Libertea2012

RT: CNBC has apparently caved toTrump’s biggest demand for the next debate… read.bi #UniteBlue

12:11 PM - 16 Oct 2015

It’s all about the ratings. A prefect example to show just that. Inform America? Hell no.

Later all…got to get to work…and adjust to this very cool Ohio/Midwest day to do it.

404
Amory Blaine  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:43:51am

re: #400 wrenchwench

I work the worst rotating shift imaginable. Sleep is something I have to keep a close eye on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:43:59am

re: #351 Timothy Watson

[Embedded content]

Say what you will about Goldwater, but it was his grandson being gay that caused him to become a supporter of LGBT rights.

The same can’t be said about other people apparently.

And Jesus said: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another…except if they’re gay. Fuck those people”

1 Republicans 20:16

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:45:22am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

My own district is a swing one but where I live is red as hell. Dick Black’s state district.

Ugh.

I live in the 99th House of Delegates district, where the GOP, back in 2009, nominated a former militia member who believes, among other things, that the federal government was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.

Thankfully, the incumbent Democrat won the election.

By 4.5%.

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wrenchwench  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:48:00am

re: #404 Amory Blaine

I work the worst rotating shift imaginable. Sleep is something I have to keep a close eye on.

Rotating shifts deserve an early retirement with full benefits.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:48:08am

re: #405 Eclectic Cyborg

“Show no mercy to those whose burdens differ. Until it strikes your house. Then you must show mercy until such time passes that you may pull up the ladder behind thee.”

RW. Jesus

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:48:57am

re: #406 Timothy Watson

Ugh.

I live in the 99th House of Delegates district, where the GOP, back in 2009, nominated a former militia member who believes, among other things, that the federal government was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.

Thankfully, the incumbent Democrat won the election.

By 4.5%.

Sheesh. I think Varek is in Marshall’s. I actually had a moderate delegate but a TP asshole primaried him and won the GE against the former mayor of Berryville.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:50:37am

Weirdly enough as Va has gotten blue, my direct representatives have grown more nutty. I had a moderate R delegate as a kid and a Dem state senator.

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Jay C  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:53:50am

re: #403 Dr. Matt

Women of The View Pummel Ann Coulter for Four Minutes

Yeah: Mrs. Jay and I just saw that segment; she (the Mrs.) called me in to ask who that weird blonde woman spouting nonsense was… We both LOL’d when she (Ann C.) started yammering about the difference between “immigrants” and “settlers”. Nice to see Coulter get her ass handed to her, however: though I opined that she (Ann) would probably only need a few minutes’ break to run onto FB, and post a whiny rant about how MEEEAAANN!!! those nasty liberals were…….

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:54:28am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

There’s further proof of the short fingered vulgarian.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:56:50am

re: #411 Jay C

Yeah: Mrs. Jay and I just saw that segment; she (the Mrs.) called me in to ask who that weird blonde woman spouting nonsense was: we both LOL’d when she (Ann C.) started yammering about the difference between “immigrants” and “settlers”. Nice to see Coulter get her ass handed to her, though: though I opined that she (Ann) would probably only need a few minutes’ break to run onto FB, and post a whiny rant about how MEEEAAANN!!! those nasty liberals were…….

Coulter is a typical conservative bully. She dishes out nothing but hate for racial minorities, other women, etc but when she gets rightfully called out on it, she accsues her opponents of being the hateful ones. It doesn’t help that her former fling Bill Maher cries about liberals who have a problem with her.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:56:58am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Weirdly enough as Va has gotten blue, my direct representatives have grown more nutty. I had a moderate R delegate as a kid and a Dem state senator.

Yeah, those nuts love showing up for elections, and most people get really tired of elections in Virginia. If you live in a town or city, you might be looking at an election almost every six months. If not, you’re still getting one at least once every year.

Gets really exhausting.

415
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 9:58:37am

re: #414 Timothy Watson

Yeah, those nuts love showing up for elections, and most people get really tired of elections in Virginia. If you live in a town or city, you might be looking at an election almost every six months. If not, you’re still getting one at least once every year.

Gets really exhausting.

Yep and honestly I really dislike that we have the one term limit on our governors. That’s probably why we had that streak that ended last year of the opposite party of the president gettign elected to Richmond. I have to admit though Terry has grown on me.

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Lidane  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:00:53am

Reince is starting the 2016 GOP autopsy early:

417
wrenchwench  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:01:11am
418
Jenner7  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:01:16am
419
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:03:07am

re: #416 Lidane

Reince is starting the 2016 GOP autopsy early:

[Embedded content]

I imagine cooked elephant has a pungent odor. That is to say REince, if your party loses cook your party’s carcass away from the rest of us.

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allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:06:20am

re: #418 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Now that they’ve been outed they’re off looking for another “scandal” to make up.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:06:36am

re: #418 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

They’ve got themselves some nerve.

What a farce.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:09:04am

re: #418 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

They don’t even attempt to hide what this has lways been.

423
CuriousLurker  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:09:16am

ZOMG, is nothing sacred?? Behold, Shariah baking is here—gingerbread mosques and Islamic shape cookie cutters—the horror!!11!

America is SO over. //

424
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:10:52am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, is nothing sacred?? Behold, Shariah baking is here—gingerbread mosques and Islamic shape cookie cutters—the horror!!11!

America is SO over. //

The funny thing is somewhere out there an Islamic extremist is pissed abotu this too. The anti-Jihadiss ave so much in common with wh athey hate.

426
Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:13:10am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, is nothing sacred?? Behold, Shariah baking is here—gingerbread mosques and Islamic shape cookie cutters—the horror!!11!

America is SO over. //

Once you eat a shwarma, a person automatically becomes a Muslim, doncha know?
///

ITZ TEH CREEPING SHARIA SHWARMA!!

427
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:13:45am

Markos just retweeted that bogus Donald Trump tweet.

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allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:13:58am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, is nothing sacred?? Behold, Shariah baking is here—gingerbread mosques and Islamic shape cookie cutters—the horror!!11!

America is SO over. //

The mosque is way cool. But I’d add more color. And sprinkles.

429
CuriousLurker  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:15:02am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

The funny thing is somewhere out there an Islamic extremist is pissed abotu this too. The anti-Jihadiss ave so much in common with wh athey hate.

Exactly. I can already see them shaking their heads and tut-tutting their disapproval of Muslims incorporating Western “kaffir” ways into Ramadan celebrations. *smh*

430
Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:15:26am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a big deal, as far as endorsements go.

431
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:15:45am

Houston Lizards - that scaffolding collapse!

432
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:15:54am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Trump blames George W. Bush for 9/11: ‘Say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time’

Trump Tells It Like It Is!!!

Won’t hurt him. Bush is a RINO these days anyway.

433
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:16:00am

re: #429 CuriousLurker

Exactly. I can already see them shaking their heads and tut-tutting their disapproval of Muslims incorporating Western “kaffir” ways into Ramadan celebrations. *smh*

More gingerbread for the rest f us though. Sivler linings.

434
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:16:23am

re: #431 Stanley Sea Toujours

Houston Lizards - that scaffolding collapse!

435
allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:17:11am

re: #431 Stanley Sea Toujours

Houston Lizards - that scaffolding collapse!

Oh dear. Just happened?

436
Lidane  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:17:18am

re: #426 Dr Lizardo

Once you eat a shwarma, a person automatically becomes a Muslim, doncha know?
///

ITZ TEH CREEPING SHARIA SHWARMA!!

Shawarma!

The Avengers and Shawarma

437
allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:19:07am

re: #435 allegro

Oh dear. Just happened?

Oh fuck. My neighbor and football buddy works that site. Must run to check on his disabled wife.

438
Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:19:22am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

These people need some good old Mulla Nasruddin stories. After all, his story of the lost keys and searching outside when he lost them inside the house was THE original joke source.

439
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:19:52am

I’m convinced now that that “miles reed” is nothing but a retweet bot. This is a wingnut (specifically Fox News & Koch) talking point:
HURR HURR UR NOT TEH POORS IF U CAN HAS TEH FRIDGE!!!!!!

440
lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:19:52am

re: #434 Stanley Sea Toujours

Looks like a game of pick up sticks now. Hope no one was hurt, though I doubt that was the case.

441
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:20:02am

re: #435 allegro

Oh dear. Just happened?

Bout an hour ago.

I conversed with some scaffolding guys who were setting up for our building getting painted. Pretty wild job.

Looks like a domino effect must have happened - one part fell & the whole thing goes.

442
lawhawk  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:20:10am

Appropos of the discussion about tipping:

443
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:20:49am

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

I’m convinced now that that “miles reed” is nothing but a retweet bot. This is a wingnut (specifically Fox News & Koch) talking point:
HURR HURR UR NOT TEH POORS IF U CAN HAS TEH FRIDGE!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Then by that standard complaing about taes should neer happen but that doesn’t stop wingnuts from cparing taxes to slavery.

444
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:21:49am

re: #440 lawhawk

Looks like a game of pick up sticks now. Hope no one was hurt, though I doubt that was the case.

I believe they said people are trapped.

445
CuriousLurker  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:22:13am

re: #438 Eric The Fruit Bat

These people need some good old Mulla Nasruddin stories. After all, his story of the lost keys and searching outside when he lost them inside the house was THE original joke source.

Indeed. “But there’s more light out here!” LOL

446
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:24:23am

re: #445 CuriousLurker

Indeed. “But there’s more light out here!” LOL

That joke is in the Talmud BTW

447
Timothy Watson  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:27:22am

re: #442 lawhawk

Appropos of the discussion about tipping:

[Embedded content]

A cashier (or other employee) steals a $1,000, he’s looking at five years in prison. An owner steals $230,000, he gets to settle the matter civilly or administratively.

Reminds me of this local sicking story where a lawyer who stole between $630,000 to $800,000 from the law firm she worked at gets just a couple years active sentence and gets to serve them at the local jail instead of prison and now just wants house arrest.
richmond.com

448
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:27:52am
449
Lidane  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:29:35am

Florida:

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CuriousLurker  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:30:14am

re: #426 Dr Lizardo

Bid’ah!!

For those of you not familiar with the Salafi/Wahhabi types, pretty much everything is Bid’ah, or at least everything they disapprove of (regardless of whether or not it’s a good innovation that helps people, or even a neutral one that harms no one).

451
Amory Blaine  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:30:50am

re: #446 The Vicious Babushka

They crack jokes in the Talmud? That’s awesome.

452
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:31:31am

OUTRAGE!!!! LIBRULS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!

453
BeachDem  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:32:31am

SAVE ME! Ann Coulter is screeching on The View and I can’t turn the tv off (I’ve told everyone she’ll rot their brains, but they’re not listening to me.)

It’s 9:30 am and I’ve been here for 5 hours already. 8 more to go and I’m through with this one.

454
Belafon  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:32:38am

re: #368 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If Democratic candidates staked out strong positions for a few things and then stayed with them then Democratic voters might be more motivated to turn out. Though the Republicans may be appalling, you do know what they stand for. With some Dems, it seems that the only things they stand for are “not a Republican,” and “elect me.”

Democrats don’t vote in the midterms because they don’t think it affects them. The don’t really care if it affects others, as long as it doesn’t affect them. Go and look at 2014. Blacks turned out like they did in 2012, because they know it affects them.

It’s white privilege.

455
CuriousLurker  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:33:08am

re: #446 The Vicious Babushka

That joke is in the Talmud BTW

I’m not surprised at all. It’s a “teaching” joke, so I suppose it’s been around as long as teachers have been trying to help their students find the light.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:33:56am

re: #449 Lidane

Florida:

[Embedded content]

Maybe more people will live because of this decision.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:34:14am

re: #449 Lidane

Florida:

458
allegro  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:38:05am

Whew. All good. Neighbor is fine. He’s an electrical foreman who was inside the building. Glad, and surprised, that no one was seriously hurt as of the latest report.

459
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:38:26am

So true!!

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Belafon  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:38:38am

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

He’s Latino, therefore he knows what socialism is? How does that work?

461
Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:39:58am

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

I’m convinced now that that “miles reed” is nothing but a retweet bot. This is a wingnut (specifically Fox News & Koch) talking point:
HURR HURR UR NOT TEH POORS IF U CAN HAS TEH FRIDGE!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Ungrateful wretches.

462
HappyWarrior  Oct 16, 2015 • 10:43:11am

re: #460 Belafon

He’s Latino, therefore he knows what socialism is? How does that work?

Who are they talking about anyhow?

463
calochortus  Oct 16, 2015 • 11:12:11am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, is nothing sacred?? Behold, Shariah baking is here—gingerbread mosques and Islamic shape cookie cutters—the horror!!11!

America is SO over. //

America was over some time ago.
Back when my son was in middle school he loved those 3-D puzzles. Among assorted ones we bought him is the mosque in Mecca. I suppose he’s now Muslim or something…

464
Skip Intro  Oct 16, 2015 • 11:25:41am

re: #432 Eclectic Cyborg

Won’t hurt him. Bush is a RINO these days anyway.

YEAHBUT Jeb! was showing him off as his secret weapon last week.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 16, 2015 • 12:02:49pm

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

Someone clever should re-do that meme - “If you keep your clothes in a 1,000 sq. ft. closet, if you have more cars than children” etc “you are richer than 99.999% of the world and should shut the fuck up about taxes.”


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