Pat Robertson Says, Don’t Worry - Gay Marriage Is Still Illegal

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Thousand year-old religious right crocodile Pat Robertson has been spreading all sorts of fanatical falsehoods about marriage equality, saying it will lead to bestiality, the collapse of the financial system, plagues, pestilence and God’s wrath, but now he has a new talking point — he’s claiming that despite the Supreme Court’s ruling, gay marriage is still illegal!

(Guys like Robertson are professionals at denying objective reality.)

“In the legal system, party A sues party B over marriage, ‘I want to get married to them,’ and the court says, ‘Okay, you can get married,’” he explained. “That doesn’t mean that I’ve got to get married to homosexuals, it doesn’t mean that you have to nor does it mean that it’s the law of the land. Congress didn’t pass any law. Your state legislature didn’t pass a law. So you’re not under anything, it’s a decision of the court having to do with a couple of people. Now they would like to make it bigger than that but, in terms of the Constitution, it isn’t.”

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William of Orange  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:40:19am

Please, crawl under a rock and die.
He’s 85 now. How much longer will the world still have to lister to Captain Senile?!

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:40:46am

The whole idea of judicial review is lost of them, isn’t it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:40:56am

So by his logic the 2nd Amendment doesn’t apply either since it’s not the Bible.

Great!

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Lidane  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:42:23am
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Snarknado!  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:43:35am

That makes no sense.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:44:15am

‘No gay people can get married in my head.’ —Pat Robertson’s mouth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:44:19am
“In the legal system, party A sues party B over marriage, ‘I want to get married to them,’ and the court says, ‘Okay, you can get married,’” he explained. “That doesn’t mean that I’ve got to get married to homosexuals, it doesn’t mean that you have to nor does it mean that it’s the law of the land. Congress didn’t pass any law. Your state legislature didn’t pass a law. So you’re not under anything, it’s a decision of the court having to do with a couple of people. Now they would like to make it bigger than that but, in terms of the Constitution, it isn’t.”

I read this three times and it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. It’s Palin-level word salad.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:44:27am

“Congress didn’t pass any law. Your state legislature didn’t pass a law.”

Because due to the 14th Amendment, gay people could not be denied the right to marriage, which means they were simply allowed to get married under existing laws. No need to pass a new law.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:44:33am

Go to your room Pat and lock yourself in forever.

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Kid A  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:44:47am

I had no idea Crazy Pat was still alive.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:45:51am

re: #8 Kragar

“Congress didn’t pass any law. Your state legislature didn’t pass a law.”

Because due to the 14th Amendment, gay people could not be denied the right to marriage, which means they were simply allowed to get married under existing laws. No need to pass a new law.

Right. But we are talking about an old segregationist asshole whose father was one too. Pat is like so many other American conservatives, he refuses to accept reality so he makes up his own. It’s not healthy. His kids really should tell him to get off the air but they’re probably just as wacky as he is.

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Citizen Bob  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:45:55am

Because the SCOTUS are sovereign citizens.
Because laws only apply to lawyers and those who can afford them.
Because that would mean an end to discrimination, which is clearly ungodly.
Because Jesus.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:46:17am

re: #10 Kid A

I had no idea Crazy Pat was still alive.

He’s not. Pat Robertson is an empty suit operated by a complex system of ropes and pulleys being run by a group of 27 trained ferrets.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:46:40am

Speaking of doucheballoons==>

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Kid A  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:47:46am

This just gets better and better.

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Tigger2  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:47:50am

Pat the Supreme Court is part of the Government.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:48:05am

The religious right is under this kind of delusional claptrap where they think that if they simply believe the law doesn’t exist or apply to them, they can make up whatever kind of crap they want - that gay marriage is still illegal or other such BS.

And far too many people buy into this crap.

Real lives are at stake here - not just on gay marriage, but on other issues relating to civil rights, from voting to access to health care. The GOP is cultivating and/or relying on this kind of nonsensical raving to grow their base.

They are certainly motivated as we’re seeing with Iowa, where GOP loons think that Ben Carson’s extremism is admirable, and the more extreme things he says, the more they like him. Carson has out-Trumped Trump on the Trump meter (measure of extremist claptrap).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:48:23am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:50:14am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of doucheballoons==>

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And notice of course these are all guys saying it. Anyhow, no you motherfuckers, Ben Carson is not right and no the arguments were not the same. Oh and by the way you know who the biggest defenders of slavery were, yep conservatives, you can cry they wre Democrats all you want but guys like John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, etc were staunch conservatives. Slavery has nothing to do with abortion. Oh and by the way guys, your position on abortion is the same as ISIS and the Taliban and the dreaded Iranian regime too. Good company for a bunch of clerical fascist fucks like you.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:50:23am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of doucheballoons==>

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This:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:51:04am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

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Seriously, it’s an absurd comparison. This is really going to confuse the paleocons though since a lot of them think slavery was good or at least not so bad.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:52:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:52:14am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:53:11am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Seriously, it’s an absurd comparison. This is really going to confuse the paleocons though since a lot of them think slavery was good or at least not so bad.

As somebody said, everything to them is slavery or Hitler—except actual slavery or actual Hitler. They weren’t so bad.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:54:15am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:55:00am

re: #24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As somebody said, everything to them is slavery or Hitler—except actual slavery or actual Hitler. They weren’t so bad.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:56:22am

So wingnuts you think every Republican first lady since Roe except Nancy Reagan condones slavery. Hey, your logic not mine. Remember when it was thought that the pro-choice Rudy Giuliani had a shot at winning this pathetic party’s nomination- ha-ha. That was a good one. Just like the times the GOP tells us they’re the fiscally responsible ones and ones that know how to handle national security.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 10:56:46am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

I read this three times and it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. It’s Palin-level word salad.

Yeah, but he’s expressing a widely held and completely bullshit belief on the Right, that Congress has to pass a law to make SSM legal, and that the SCOTUS just cleared the way for that law. He’s just doing it in Doddering Old Fart, which is one of my languages.

It’s bullshit because what the SCOTUS did was to find any legal impediment to SSM unconstitutional, so those no longer exist as laws.

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Tigger2  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:00:07am

If there’s a heaven a lot of these so called religious leaders like Pat and other people are going to be surprised when St Peter meets them at the pearly gates and laughs at them and says “You want to get in where’.
The last time I checked Hate thy Neighbor was something the bible taught you not to do.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:02:04am

Let’s look though at actual defenses of slavery.

“Positive good”- Uh no, no one says this about abortion.

“States rights”- Actually wingnuts this was your go to in defending Jim Crow and just recently bans on gay marriage.

“{group} is inferior”- Hmmm there you go again, that’s you guys opposing CIvil Rights.

“”It’s our way of life.”- Nope

The fact of the matter is wingnuts talk about opposing abortion but want to do shit little or nothing to actual prevent abortions from happening in the first place. And yes I know it’s a feature not a bug that they oppose things like affordable contraceptive, groups like PP, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:02:32am

Fact of the matter is PP has done far more to stop abortions than any Republican anti-choice ashsole ever has.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:02:34am
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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:03:29am

He’s basically arguing that there’s no such thing as precedent and that just because the courts reach a decision in one case doesn’t mean that it applies in the next. This is many things - it is Alan Keyes Level Crazy (AKLC) (I actually remember him pitching this idea while running for president in 2000); it is completely opposite of how the American (and generally speaking Anglo-common law) legal system works; it ignores the clear role of the courts in our constitutional system; it ignores the entire point of the supremacy clause and the equal protection clauses.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:04:00am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Right. But we are talking about an old segregationist asshole whose father was one too. Pat is like so many other American conservatives, he refuses to accept reality so he makes up his own. It’s not healthy. His kids really should tell him to get off the air but they’re probably just as wacky as he is.

While campaigning in 1988 for Republican presidential nominee, Pat said that people should pray for the deaths of some US Supreme Court Justices, so more suitable justices could be appointed in their place.

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thecommodore  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:05:11am

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

I read this three times and it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. It’s Palin-level word salad.

Huckabee has made the same argument. It’s a crank constitutional theory.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:05:59am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

there may actually be some fun satire in a book like that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:06:34am

re: #34 BeenHereAwhile

While campaigning in 1988 for Republican presidential nominee, Pat said that people should pray for the deaths of some US Supreme Court Justices, so more suitable justices could be appointed in their place.

That dosen’t surprise me at all that he said that. He was practically gloating when Ariel Sharon had a stroke but Fundies just love Israel. //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:06:39am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Fact of the matter is PP has done far more to stop abortions than any Republican anti-choice ashsole ever has.

You know it’s not really about abortion, of course.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:07:31am

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

You know it’s not really about abortion, of course.

Of course. It’s about one thing- telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. That’s what it’s been about and that’s what it always will about.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:08:10am

re: #36 KGxvi

there may actually be some fun satire in a book like that.

There’s a YouTube video out there somewhere narrated by a little fetus babby “Today I Was Aborted” or “Diary of an Unborned Aborted Fetus”

Maybe someone who is not firewalled can find it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:08:27am

He does not have to recognize that homosexual couples are married in the eyes of The Lord, but he does have to recognize their civil status.

But that is too much nuance for Pat or any of his theocratic brethren to understand or recognize.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:10:26am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll believe the “abortion is just like slavery” meme when the first “9 Months A Fetus” memoir is published

Yes, and in A Handmaid’s Tale, there is something like a Fugitive Fetus Act, the protagonist gets busted at the border trying to sneak out to Canada to obtain an abortion and is imprisoned

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:13:53am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:14:18am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump, waving hand across his face, said women might prefer wearing burkas because it obviates the need for make-up.

You can’t see me!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:14:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:15:11am

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

If his mother chose to keep him, then that is fine, but it should be HER CHOICE, not some archaic patriarchal law.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:16:25am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of doucheballoons==>

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:16:46am

re: #35 thecommodore

It’s a crank constitutional theory.

Calling it a constitutional theory (crank or no) is way too generous. I don’t know of any legal scholars or practicing attorneys who actually support it. This is mainly because it would utterly destroy our legal system - Robertson’s logic would mean that every same sex couple and every mixed race couple would have to sue for a marriage license. Also, it’s a legal theory that can get turned back on you very quickly - Supreme Court says that this hand gun ban is illegal, fine you can carry a handgun but we’ll still arrest anyone else carrying one and force them to sue. That’s no way to run a government.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:17:03am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If his mother chose to keep him, then that is fine, but it should be HER CHOICE, not some archaic patriarchal law.

Right, and that man is attacking other women by saying they should not be allowed a choice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:17:20am

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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To make another feel better? And wingnuts need to stop usng people in military uniform to hide behind. That’s just cowardly bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:18:01am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If his mother chose to keep him, then that is fine, but it should be HER CHOICE, not some archaic patriarchal law.

That’s the operative word- choice. They never get thta.

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allegro  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:18:43am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Of course. It’s about one thing- telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. That’s what it’s been about and that’s what it always will about.

It’s more about keeping women a subservient class. Eliminating our control over our fertlity is the means to that end.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:19:04am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

ATKINSON, NH - Businessman Donald Trump told a packed room the United States should not challenge countries that require women to wear burkas as he unleashed a full-throttle criticism of America’s current foreign policy.

“Why are we fighting that?” the presidential candidate asked to cheers in the crowd, and added the United States should “let them” wear what they want.

Uh … the United States isn’t fighting that. Where is he getting this crap?

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:20:54am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

wasn’t that part of the more enthusiastic GWOT plans - we’re going to bring peace and freedom to the Mid East? Apparently, Trump is still reading stuff from 2003?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:21:05am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh … the United States isn’t fighting that. Where is he getting this crap?

Maybe from #tcot gun-fucking memes that show hot womens defending their right to wear an American Flag bikini, opposing Teh Sharia with gunz!

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:21:32am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

That’s the operative word- choice. They never get thta.

They are trying to prove that women have no choice, but that it is Nature [or God] who made things that way, not RWNJs. More science denial, which is actually medical denial for this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:22:37am

re: #56 wrenchwench

They are trying to prove that women have no choice, but that it is Nature [or God] who made things that way, not RWNJs. More science denial, which is actually medical denial for this.

Yeah.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:22:43am

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Yeah! Let’s make rape a reasonable reproductive strategy!! No possibility of bad consequences from THAT!
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Lidane  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:22:49am

SNL aren’t that desperate (I hope):

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:22:51am

Shorter Pat: If you gay marry a duck made of wood something something Hillary is a witch.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:23:40am

re: #33 KGxvi

He’s basically arguing that there’s no such thing as precedent and that just because the courts reach a decision in one case doesn’t mean that it applies in the next. This is many things - it is Alan Keyes Level Crazy (AKLC) (I actually remember him pitching this idea while running for president in 2000); it is completely opposite of how the American (and generally speaking Anglo-common law) legal system works; it ignores the clear role of the courts in our constitutional system; it ignores the entire point of the supremacy clause and the equal protection clauses.

I just wanted to say that it’s good having another person here who understands the legal system and can explain things well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:23:48am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh … the United States isn’t fighting that. Where is he getting this crap?

I just want to know the reaction of a GOP crowd if Obama said that. And yeah we’re not fighting that at all. Trump’s drunk at the wheel again and the car is the GOP and they’re encouraging him to take more shots.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:24:38am

re: #59 Lidane

SNL aren’t that desperate (I hope):

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Ted, you’re about as funny as crotch wrotch and your Simpsons voices sucked too. Stop trying to act like you’re hip when you’re really just a pathetic theocratic fascist who loves any attention.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:25:36am

re: #61 CuriousLurker

Thank you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:25:40am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

To make another feel better? And wingnuts need to stop usng people in military uniform to hide behind. That’s just cowardly bullshit.

They make it sound like someone is going to come and rip that fetus out of her belly against her will…

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:26:16am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh … the United States isn’t fighting that. Where is he getting this crap?

His fans must be so confused.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:26:21am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh … the United States isn’t fighting that. Where is he getting this crap?

More straw men (or women as the case might be)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:26:38am

My never-ending question about The Walking Dead:
Why is Daryl’s hair always in serious need of washing while the zombie ladies’ hair look like they just left the salon?

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:26:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:27:48am

re: #66 jaunte

His fans must be so confused.

That’s why they are his fans…they have no idea what he is really about, he is just a screen for them to project their incoherent rage upon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:27:54am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They make it sound like someone is going to come and rip that fetus out of her belly against her will…

Exactly. I mean if she wants to give birth to the child concieved from the rape, that’s her choice, and that’s the key word they don’t get. They seem to think pro-choice people are pro-abortion always and that’s just not hte case.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:29:11am

re: #66 jaunte

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His fans must be so confused.

Anti-Muslim fanatics are some weird assholes.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:29:47am

re: #33 KGxvi

Not to mention ignores stare decisis, which is a foundational legal doctrine across most of the world - including the UK and US. That legal claptrap also would upend the entire notion of judicial review (except when a court agrees with them, in which case it must be permanent and never questioned).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:32:21am

I almost want some liberal county clerk to deny an evangelical couple the right to marry because they find evangelical Christianity immoral and wrong. Almost though because I’d never want someone’s wedding and Maria to be ruined by a dick trying to make a point but it just sickens me that Evangelical bigots like Pat cry they’re being persecuted because they can’t persecute people anymore. Pat frankly as much as I hate the phase has a very anti-American mindset in that way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:33:05am

re: #73 lawhawk

In the end, it’s not so much a legal doctrine they’re espousing as a last-gasp hope they can still legally deny their fellow citizens equal rights.

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Great White Snark  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:34:40am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Funny how no county clerks with all this Christian anti gay “morality” to take to work refused licenses to divorced people, never asked for proof of virginity to issue the license, etc etc. Hmmm.

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KGxvi  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:35:16am

re: #73 lawhawk

I went with precedent over stare decisis for the sake of laymen, but yeah, that was pretty much my point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:35:53am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

The crazy thing is, of course, that a substantial number of sects don’t believe in divorce, so marrying a divorced couple would be participating in adultery, if you follow the same logic. I don’t recall any County Clerks refusing to issue licenses to divorcees. No, it’s always Teh Ghey. Before that is was interracial couples.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:36:28am

re: #76 Great White Snark

Funny how no county clerks with all this Christian anti gay “morality” to take to work refused licenses to divorced people, never asked for proof of virginity to issue the license, etc etc. Hmmm.

That’s something I wondered about too. Hell Kim Davis herself is a multiple divorcee. How the hell would she feel if some traditionalist Catholic refused her a certificate based on her divorces and there do exist people like that. The whole “my religious beliefs” is just a pick and choose thing.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:36:40am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Anti-Muslim fanatics are some weird assholes.

I suspect what they’d really like is for the U.S. to start invading Muslim countries, ripping the hijabs off women as they go, and forcing everyone to eat pork & drink alcohol. Because that would make the world way better & safer… somehow. //

Reza Shah tried to force change like that and we eventually ended up with the IRI.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:38:01am

re: #80 CuriousLurker

I suspect what they’d really like is for the U.S. to start invading Muslim countries, ripping the hijabs off women as they go, and forcing everyone to eat pork & drink alcohol. Because that would make the world way better & safer… somehow. //

Reza Shah tried to force change like that and we eventually ended up with the IRI.

Yeah. Listen, I am a secular guy but if your religion chooses not to eat pork or drink booze, I’m not going to force it. I don’t think it should be made state law that you can’t consume those but I won’t stop you from following that in your private life just as long as you won’t stop me from drinking and eating pork.

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darthstar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:38:20am
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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:38:39am

re: #77 KGxvi

I went with precedent over stare decisis for the sake of laymen, but yeah, that was pretty much my point.

Heh, I had to google it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:38:47am

re: #80 CuriousLurker

I suspect what they’d really like is for the U.S. to start invading Muslim countries, ripping the hijabs off women as they go, and forcing everyone to eat pork & drink alcohol. Because that would make the world way better & safer… somehow. //

Reza Shah tried to force change like that and we eventually ended up with the IRI.

I have seen memes on #tcot that advocate that.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:38:48am
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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:40:04am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

I have seen memes on #tcot that advocate that.

I wish I could say I’m surprised.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:40:35am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

When you start thinking that your god wants you to force others to do things they don’t want to, you’ve pretty much lost the thread.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:40:57am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

I have seen memes on #tcot that advocate that.

Well remember Ann Coulter, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. No one has ever asked Ann how her plans for the Muslim world differ from the Islamist for ours.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:43:05am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

It doesn’t, but you see, HER god is the REAL god, so that makes it GOOD.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:43:33am

re: #86 CuriousLurker

I wish I could say I’m surprised.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:47:01am

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

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And yet their views have a lot of intersection with Shariah. Go ahead wingnuts, tell me about how you hate Shariah but also oppose equal pay for women, women having the right to choose, gay rights, etc. Your only problem with Shariah is that it’s Muslim. If Shariah were Biblical, you’d be begging for it to be law.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:47:11am

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

“Our women make up their own minds, unless it’s about their bodies. Then we have to do that for them, because they won’t reach a rational decision. Hormones. KnowhatImean?”

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ObserverArt  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:48:18am

Dead thread…forget it.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:49:49am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Well remember Ann Coulter, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. No one has ever asked Ann how her plans for the Muslim world differ from the Islamist for ours.

You know, every believer believes his/her religion is the best & most true religion, just as unbelievers feel their atheism the best & most true course—if any of them felt otherwise, then they’d switch—and that’s fine, I recognize that and don’t feel threatened by it. To each his own and all that, y’know?

But as soon as you start getting in my face and telling me what I should or shouldn’t think or believe, then we have a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:50:59am

re: #94 CuriousLurker

You know, every believer believes his/her religion is the best & most true religion, just as unbelievers feel their atheism the best & most true course—if any of them felt otherwise, then they’d switch—and that’s fine, I recognize that and don’t feel threatened by it. To each his own and all that, y’know?

But as soon as you start getting in my face and telling me what I should or shouldn’t think of believe, then we have a problem.

Right. What you want to do is your own choice in the end.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:55:43am

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah, ‘cause the fraction of one percent of Muslims in the U.S. are going to overthrow the Constitution and impose Shariah any minute now. Idiots.

Y’know sometimes I almost wish one of the theocrats would take charge of the U.S. so those asshats can full understand just how horrible a Christian theocracy would be for them. At the time Islam was founded Shariah was considered an improvement in women’s rights.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 26, 2015 • 11:56:49am

Okay, new thread. Time to go get some work done.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2015 • 12:19:52pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of doucheballoons==>

Do they honestly not understand that they have it exactly backwards?

It’s the laws *against* abortion that subject women to slavery. The idea that my internal organs — my uterus, my kidneys, my thyroid, the calcium in my bones — should be assigned by the State to the use of someone the State values more highly than me… I have no words.


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