RNC Cancels NBC Debate — The Whining Continues

The Party Of Whining, Crying, Complaining, And Playing The Victim
mr.fusion
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RNC chairman Reince Priebus has informed NBC that the RNC is cancelling the Republican debate scheduled to air on NBC later. The reason given was that CNBC was just too darn mean to his candidates.

Full Letter here

Mr. Andrew Lack
Chairman, NBC News
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, New York 10112

Dear Mr. Lack,

I write to inform you that pending further discussion between the Republican National Committee (RNC) and our presidential campaigns, we are suspending the partnership with NBC News for the Republican primary debate at the University of Houston on February 26, 2016.

[…]

The CNBC network is one of your media properties, and its handling of the debate was conducted in bad faith. We understand that NBC does not exercise full editorial control over CNBC’s journalistic approach. However, the network is an arm of your organization, and we need to ensure there is not a repeat performance.

CNBC billed the debate as one that would focus on “the key issues that matter to all voters—job growth, taxes, technology, retirement and the health of our national economy.” That was not the case. Before the debate, the candidates were promised an opening question on economic or financial matters. That was not the case. Candidates were promised that speaking time would be carefully monitored to ensure fairness. That was not the case. Questions were inaccurate or downright offensive. The first question directed to one of our candidates asked if he was running a comic book version of a presidential campaign, hardly in the spirit of how the debate was billed.

This comes after a full day of whining and crying from the right wing that their candidates were unfairly questioned about their positions. Here are some of the questions that drew the ire of the presidential candidates and their supporters:

HARWOOD: Mr. Trump, you’ve done very well in this campaign so far by promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it. Send 11 million people out of the country. Cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit. And make Americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others. Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?

[…]

QUICK: Dr. Carson, let’s talk about taxes.

You have a flat tax plan of 10 percent flat taxes, and — I’ve looked at it — and this is something that is very appealing to a lot of voters, but I’ve had a really tough time trying to make the math work on this.

If you were to took a 10 percent tax, with the numbers right now in total personal income, you’re gonna come in with bring in $1.5 trillion. That is less than half of what we bring in right now. And by the way, it’s gonna leave us in a $2 trillion hole.
So what analysis got you to the point where you think this will work?

[…]

QUINTANILLA: One more question. This is a company called Mannatech, a maker of nutritional supplements, with which you had a 10-year relationship. They offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer, they paid $7 million to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet you’re involvement continued. Why?

[…]

QUINTANILLA: Senator Cruz. Congressional Republicans, Democrats and the White House are about to strike a compromise that would raise the debt limit, prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets that fear of — another Washington-created crisis is on the way.

Does your opposition to it show that you’re not the kind of problem-solver American voters want?

[…]

QUINTANILLA: Governor Bush, daily fantasy sports has become a phenomenon in this country, will award billions of dollars in prize money this year. But to play you have to assess your odds, put money at risk, wait for an outcome that’s out of your control. Isn’t that the definition of gambling, and should the Federal Government treat it as such?

So that’s a question to Trump about making ludicrous and impossible to keep promises, to Carson about taxes and about a scam company he has been paid by, a question to Cruz about the budget deal and a question about government regulating gambling.

And that’s just too much for these dainty little candidates. Good luck with Putin, guys

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461 comments
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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:51:17pm

Hey! Here’s a great election trick that every conservative candidate should know:

Last year the US House candidacy of GOP former Stanislaus County Clerk and anti-abortion activist Karen Mathews Davis gained national attention when she claimed to have gotten death threats from anonymous writers who threatened to shoot her and her husband in the head if she didn’t withdraw from the race.

While the feds investigated, Davis told the local press that wasn’t going to “give in to terrorism” and that “if those people weren’t able to stop me from doing the right thing, then Obama and Pelosi don’t have a prayer.” Today Davis has been charged with lying to the FBI after confessing that she made it all up.

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:53:53pm
Chairman of the RNC, Reince Priebus has informed NBC that the RNC is cancelling the Republican debate scheduled to air on NBC later.

Was this the result of that meeting the candidates had that Reince wasn’t allowed to attend? Do they just deliver this stuff to him to announce as if it was a GOP decision?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:53:54pm

“Questions were inaccurate or downright offensive.”

Charles P. Pierce:
GOP Debate: It Literally Does Not Matter What the Question Is

“…the highlight of the first hour, and the most vivid example of what was going on, was when Ted Cruz was asked about the budget deal that was struck this week between the Congress and the White House, and he replied by ripping the moderators up one side and down the other.
……………..
This wasn’t a lack of control. The format was fine. But there’s nothing you can do about someone like Ted Cruz, who isn’t encumbered by either truth or civility. Even defending the other candidates, he doesn’t care what damage he does, as long as he can stand atop the rubble. Come to think of it, that could be said of pretty much all of these people.​”

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:54:36pm

I think we all know the reason why Rinsed pulled the plug, and it wasn’t because of the “gotcha” questions. It was because the GOP as a party cannot sustain itself any longer if it actually has to talk about the issues in any manner outside of a stump speech. When you actually start to get into the specifics of their proposals, you quickly realize that they’re either unworkable or batshit crazy. And so, for the GOP to keep winning elections, they have to keep bullshitting people into believing they’re anything but a bunch of theocratic con-artists.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:55:18pm
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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:55:23pm

Promoted :)

I just want to say if I was NBC, I’d come back and publicly announce that the moderators for the debate would be Levin, Limbaugh and Hannity, as Cruz suggested yesterday

I can’t think of anything that would be more detrimental to GOP chances in November than to nationally television that complete shit show

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Khal Wimpo  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:56:04pm

Reminds me of an old sports cliche: “When everything is going wrong for you, work the refs.”

In this case, work OVER the refs.

The trained seals in the audience, whose anger & resentment is pretty much all that’s left of their higher cognitive functions, then applaud on cue, like trained seals.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:57:10pm

re: #5 jaunte

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Honestly, I’d humor them and say “Okay, so you’re dealing with silly questions, how do you like President Obama feels when members of your party have to ask him about his citizenship?” Really these guys are nothing but a bunch of whiny brats. They can’t stand difficult questions because they’d rather just spout out bullshit platidues/lies and not get called on it.

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:57:15pm

re: #2 stpaulbear

Was this the result of that meeting the candidates had that Reince wasn’t allowed to attend?

From my understanding….kind of

I’m guessing Reince flipped out and saw he was losing control when they held that meeting so he decided to, very publicly, announce that the entire Republican field was taking their ball and going home in order to try and get back in the good graces of the lunatics

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:57:18pm

I don’t think they should have to answer any question that doesn’t start with “So tell us how great Ronald Reagan was and why you’re just like him”.

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Khal Wimpo  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:57:35pm

re: #5 jaunte

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Yeah, that’s something that I’d like to see a debate moderator bring up. “If you think these questions are so tough, and you can’t stand this kind of heat … why is it that you think the American people should vote for you to go toe-to-toe with Vladimir Putin? By the evidence you’ve shown here tonight Mr. Cruz, you’d curl up in a ball, crying like a little sissy baby. NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:58:00pm

re: #6 mr.fusion

Promoted :)

I just want to say if I was NBC, I’d come back and publicly announce that the moderators for the debate would be Levin, Limbaugh and Hannity, as Cruz suggested yesterday

I can’t think of anything that would be more detrimental to GOP chances in November than to nationally television that complete shit show

I’d actually love to see that too. I think it would destroy the GOP’s image hopefully forever if those three fuckers got to ask questions.

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:58:10pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

I don’t think they should have to answer any question that doesn’t start with “So tell us how great Ronald Reagan was and why you’re just like him”.

or “So….Benghazi and emails, huh? Whats the deal with that?”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:58:42pm

That was not the case

next: will it ever be possible for a reporter to ask an easy enough question for a republican to answer?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 4:59:30pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

I don’t think they should have to answer any question that doesn’t start with “So tell us how great Ronald Reagan was and why you’re just like him”.

Well Katie, Ronald Reagan and I both breathed oxygen and he was great because I read it in a book somewhere. //

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:00:03pm

re: #15 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

That was not the case

next: will it ever be possible for a reporter to ask an easy enough question for a republican to answer?

“Tell us all of the things you hate about Hillary Clinton and the Demonrats. Take your time.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:00:05pm

“So how conservative are you, would you ever consider getting conservative tattooed on your junk?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:00:31pm

“What’s your favorite tax to cut?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:01:14pm

“Planned Parenthood, worse women’s health nonprofit or worst women’s health non profit of all time?”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:01:14pm
What do you mean, stop being the Stupid Party?

“…In a long-forgotten portion of the RNC’s 2012 “autopsy” report, party officials specifically argued, “The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself. We have become expert in how to provide ideological reinforcement to like-minded people, but devastatingly we have lost the ability to be persuasive with, or welcoming to, those who do not agree with us on every issue.”
msnbc.com

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:01:34pm

re: #15 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

That was not the case

next: will it ever be possible for a reporter to ask an easy enough question for a republican to answer?

answer: BBL

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:01:51pm

“Mike Huckabee says he feels lucky to have not been murdered by the Clintons. Tell us about the times they’ve tried to have you killed.”

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:01:58pm

I guess that 2012 GOP autopsy was money well spent:

In what they called the “most comprehensive post-election review” ever made of an electoral loss, the Republican National Committee and a group of project co-chairs unveiled a report today saying that they need to open their playbook and put their “cards on the table face up” in order to win presidential elections in the future.

[…]

Bradshaw added that the GOP “needs to stop talking to itself” and needs to open the tent in order to win presidential elections in the future.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:02:23pm

re: #24 mr.fusion

I guess that 2012 GOP autopsy was money well spent:

Doing a heckvua job.

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:03:12pm

re: #21 jaunte

Beat me to it

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:03:14pm

No need to fear,

is here!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:03:27pm

“If you could cut spending or save an orphan puppy in a fire, which would you do?”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:03:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:04:28pm

“No, really tell us other really bad things that Obamascare is as bad is.”

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WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:05:20pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’d humor them and say “Okay, so you’re dealing with silly questions, how do you like President Obama feels when members of your party have to ask him about his citizenship?” Really these guys are nothing but a bunch of whiny brats. They can’t stand difficult questions because they’d rather just spout out bullshit platidues/lies and not get called on it.

Ain’t that the truth. There have been questions to Obama that range from odd to offensive, usually from some right sided outlet.

If you can’t stand the heat, get the hell out of the political kitchen.

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:06:31pm

Democrats should grab that open time slot on NBC for another debate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:07:04pm

re: #31 WhatEVs

Ain’t that the truth. There have been questions to Obama that range from odd to offensive, usually from some right sided outlet.

If you can’t stand the heat, get the hell out of the political kitchen.

It’s simply pathetic.

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:07:07pm

“One of Ms. Fiorina’s supporters believes that the number of votes you get to cast should be based on your income, i.e. $1 million income = 1 million votes. Do you think that’s enough, or should life’s winners get more votes? As a followup, should life’s losers be allowed to vote at all?”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:08:22pm

im certain that the primary requirement of the rnc for the next debate will be that osculation of the gluteus maximus be practiced sedulously

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:09:47pm

Obummercare is like

a) Hitler
b) Slavery

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mr.fusion  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:10:13pm

What’s the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:10:17pm

“Ronald Reagan comes back from the dead and leads a Zombie Army, do you have it in you to shoot Zombie Reagan?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:10:56pm

“Is there any appropriate time to talk about guns that isn’t about how awesome they are?”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:10:59pm

Mark Levin should be the only moderator. The candidates will rush so far to the extreme right they’ll never come back.

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Whack-A-Mole  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:11:17pm

re: #32 stpaulbear

The DNC should buy that entire time block and just run a blank screen with the words “There’s nothing to see here because the Republicans are afraid to answer tough questions”.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:11:38pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:12:03pm

“if you had to choose between saving a drowning man and providing food to a child that otherwise might starve to death, which lower income group would you blame before consulting your account in regard to tax shelters?”

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:12:27pm

re: #40 jaunte

Mark Levin should be the only moderator. The candidates will rush so far to the extreme right they’ll never come back.

That would get boring. Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin should be allowed to ask a couple of questions every half hour or so.

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Whack-A-Mole  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:13:22pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

I’d love to see Palin moderate a Republican debate. It’d be really entertaining for the questions to be as incomprehensible as the answers.

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WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:14:54pm

re: #41 Whack-A-Mole

The DNC should buy that entire time block and just run a blank screen with the words “There’s nothing to see here because the Republicans are afraid to answer tough questions”.

I’d chip in for that!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:15:58pm

“You talk tough about ISIL, Putin, etc but run away from NBC. Why?”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:16:48pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

“That’s a gotcha question, and no fair.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:17:30pm

“So outside of Senator Graham who eats at the kiddie table, I’d like to see your long form military discharge papers.”

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WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:17:41pm

re: #45 Whack-A-Mole

I’d love to see Palin moderate a Republican debate. It’d be really entertaining for the questions to be as incomprehensible as the answers.

Or just her and Ben Carson because they both do word salad to the 9’s.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:19:16pm

re: #45 Whack-A-Mole

I’d love to see Palin moderate a Republican debate. It’d be really entertaining for the questions to be as incomprehensible as the answers.

And the candidates trying to make enough sense of the questions to respond, while not alienating the Palinites by asking “What the hell did you just say?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:19:17pm

“Mr. Trump, you mentioned that you find your daughter sexually attractive, which of your opponents has the sexiest daughter?”

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:19:42pm

re: #50 WhatEVs

Ben would put everyone to sleep and Sarah would be falling down drunk from sipping her 36 ounce Big Gulp by the first half hour.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:19:44pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

That would get boring. Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin should be allowed to ask a couple of questions every half hour or so.

Ted Nugent has offered his wisdom on the kid who was desk-dumped by the school cop:

As Nugent opined, “As the liberal denial freaks recoil in feigned horror at such “unnecessary” violent disruption by the good officer Fields, I am proud to stand with the many millions of Americans who know damn well she had it coming, and clearly long overdue at that.”

Not linking to drivel.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:20:13pm

“Why the hell should this country that has elected truly great men like George Washingotn and Abraham Lincoln add your sorry ass to that collection of names?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:21:00pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Ted Nugent has offered his wisdom on the kid who was desk-dumped by the school cop:

As Nugent opined, “As the liberal denial freaks recoil in feigned horror at such “unnecessary” violent disruption by the good officer Fields, I am proud to stand with the many millions of Americans who know damn well she had it coming, and clearly long overdue at that.”

Not linking to drivel.

I’ll have to remember that the next time his wife gets in trouble for being late for class with a hall monitor.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:21:49pm

“Come on, you know Ronald Reagan actually kind of sucked right?”

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:22:48pm

Ten Nugent’s America.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:23:50pm

“Governor Huckabee, how did your son learn how to torture dogs, did he learn it from you or Josh Duggar?”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:24:22pm

1942 version of “Cat People” is on TCM. Between Halloween and National Cat Day seems to be appropriate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:24:46pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

“Mr. Trump, you mentioned that you find your daughter sexually attractive, which of your opponents has the sexiest daughter?”

“Mr. Huckabee, you’ve joined Ted Nugent in singing the delights of banging underage girls. Is Mr. Trump’s daughter too old for you?”

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Bubblehead II  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:25:33pm

re: #10 mr.fusion

From my understanding….kind of

I’m guessing Reince flipped out and saw he was losing control when they held that meeting so he decided to, very publicly, announce that the entire Republican field was taking their ball and going home in order to try and get back in the good graces of the lunatics

Rinse is finally accepting the fact he that NEVER had control of the nut cases that have taken over the party. He is in damage control mode now. Limiting RNC sanctioned debates is his only option to save the party.

It’s not going to work. DF, your party is fucked up beyond repair and it’s time to abandon the sinking ship.

Roxette - It Must Have Been Love

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:25:36pm

Image: what-happened-republicans.jpg

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:26:36pm

re: #63 gocart mozart

Image: what-happened-republicans.jpg

Seriously, I’ve never been a Republican but even I weep for what’s happened to their party. From Abe to a bunch of babies who can’t handle tough questions from CNBC.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:27:11pm

“Oh you said you didn’t like gotcha questions but here’s one, did you hit your wife before or after you hit your son?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:27:42pm

“Do you even know where Benghazi is? You do know it’s not the capital of Libya right?”

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Unabogie  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:28:03pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Ted Nugent has offered his wisdom on the kid who was desk-dumped by the school cop:

As Nugent opined, “As the liberal denial freaks recoil in feigned horror at such “unnecessary” violent disruption by the good officer Fields, I am proud to stand with the many millions of Americans who know damn well she had it coming, and clearly long overdue at that.”

Not linking to drivel.

These people are the worst humanity has to offer. There’s something wrong in their brains.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:28:45pm

re: #67 Unabogie

These people are the worst humanity has to offer. There’s something wrong in their brains.

I really do think there’s a fucked up authoritarian mindset. Makes me glad I nor anyone I deeply love is a Republican.

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:29:28pm

re: #62 Bubblehead II

Rinse is finally accepting the fact he that NEVER had control of the nut cases that have taken over the party. He is in damage control mode now. Limiting RNC sanctioned debates is his only option to save the party.

That was the original plan when the RNC announced its sanctioned debate schedule. In retrospect, it’s frankly amazing that it lasted as long as it has, with fifteen egos (down from the original seventeen) to massage and such a massive political entertainment sector that this plan couldn’t possibly appease.

It’s not going to work. DF, your party is fucked up beyond repair and it’s time to abandon the sinking ship.

We’ve got to demonstrate that by having that map of the states be a beautiful, solid sky blue a year from Monday, with Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress. Power is what’s holding the GOP together; take it away, and they’ll blow apart.

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Unabogie  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:30:35pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

I really do think there’s a fucked up authoritarian mindset. Makes me glad I nor anyone I deeply love is a Republican.

It takes a special kind of asshole to proudly cheer the assault of a teenage girl.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:30:58pm

Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?

you know, this really is rude and out of line, but i have to admit that it goes some way to fulfilling my desire to see somebody ask trump a question like “how is it possible - sir - that a clown like you has a running chance at becoming the nominee of the once great republican party??”

i can imagine that the ‘reporter’ who asked it got some satisfaction out of getting into trump’s face

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:31:07pm

re: #70 Unabogie

It takes a special kind of asshole to proudly cheer the assault of a teenage girl.

Sure does.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:31:09pm

re: #70 Unabogie

It takes a special kind of asshole to proudly cheer the assault of a teenage girl.

She’s too old for him.

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Jenner7  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:32:09pm

BOMBSHELL!!!!

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:32:26pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:32:33pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

As Nugent opined, “As the liberal denial freaks recoil in feigned horror at such “unnecessary” violent disruption by the good officer Fields, I am proud to stand with the many millions of Americans who know damn well she had it coming, and clearly long overdue at that.”

and i look forward, mr nugent, to somebody handing your rude and unruly ass the same kind of treatment, since you think it’s so appropriate, and then asking you to declare that you had it coming

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:32:57pm

“Senator Paul, how is your kool aid different from the kind your father fed your fans?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:33:40pm

re: #74 Jenner7

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BOMBSHELL!!!!

Lame.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:34:04pm

re: #69 Brian J.

That was the original plan when the RNC announced its sanctioned debate schedule. In retrospect, it’s frankly amazing that it lasted as long as it has, with fifteen egos (down from the original seventeen) to massage and such a massive political entertainment sector that this plan couldn’t possibly appease.

We’ve got to demonstrate that by having that map of the states be a beautiful, solid sky blue a year from Monday, with Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress. Power is what’s holding the GOP together; take it away, and they’ll blow apart.

Hmmmm. I’d actually argue the reverse. When they have power, like they do now in the House and Senate, they fall to pieces. They conduct Purity Purges, they can’t get the smallest useful thing done, because they’re so busy accusing each other of being TRAITORS!!!!!

It’s when they’re out of power that they unite.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:34:09pm

“What the fuck is wrong with you all?”
*drops mic, leaves stage*

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:34:21pm

You kniw, I am tired of them using this tragedy for cheap points. The Dems could have attacked Reagan, Schultz, and Weinberger over Beirut which resulted in much more dead Americans.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:34:55pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Rand’s kool-aid is in touch with young people today.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:35:12pm

“Senator Rubio, you’re fond of talking about your humble roots, why would your policies benefit the very rich at the expense of people like your parents who you preport to be proud of?”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:35:50pm

re: #82 jaunte

Rand’s kool-aid is in touch with young people today.

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Look how, uh, hip I am!
Yeah! Bag of chips and, uh, all that!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:35:59pm

re: #82 jaunte

Rand’s kool-aid is in touch with young people today.

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Political costumes are always lame. That one especially is just like Rand’s campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:36:17pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

Look how, uh, hip I am!
Yeah! Bag of chips and, uh, all that!

I will drink this goldfish!

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WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:36:18pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Lame.

Because employees always have their bosses personal information. Always.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:36:42pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Zombie Ayn Rand is scary.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:37:06pm

re: #87 WhatEVs

Because employees always have their bosses personal information. Always.

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Right.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:37:33pm

FFS. I have separate emails for important/work and personal stuff.
Most people do this.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:38:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:39:35pm

re: #90 Varek Raith

FFS. I have separate emails for important/work and personal stuff.
Most people do this.

Yeah it’s really common. Is the genius for breitbart.com going to tell us he uses his @breitbrat.com email address to communicate with his mom when he wants her to get capri suns and gushers?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:40:04pm

“Ronald Reagan is dead, explain why.”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:40:33pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

“Ronald Reagan is dead, explain why.”

I think that qualifies as a gotcha! question.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:40:58pm

“How many rapes have you thought were legitimate?”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:41:33pm

“What is, and is not, a gotcha! question in your mind?”

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:41:33pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

“Mr. Trump, you mentioned that you find your daughter sexually attractive, which of your opponents has the sexiest daughter?”

All of them Katie

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syphonblue  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:41:55pm

My 2 month old cries less than these assholes.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:42:40pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

“What is, and is not, a gotcha! question in your mind?”

Gotcha question!
This is fun.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:43:39pm

So I hear ESPN shut down Grantland. I might be sad if I had ever read a single article at Grantland. It’s probably my fault they went under.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:44:56pm

“What pisses you off more about President Obama, the fact that he’s black or that he’s smarter than you?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:45:13pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

Out of 70,000 phone calls, only four people in Iowa volunteered to help doomed Jeb Bush campaign
Ouch.

He’s done, Katie.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:45:46pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:46:32pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

He’s done, Katie.

There’s toast and then there’s falling through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds toast.
GG, Jeb!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:47:39pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

There’s toast and then there’s falling through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds toast.
GG, Jeb!

Good riddance though. Jeb has all his father and brother’s weaknesses with none of their strengths.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:47:40pm

re: #41 Whack-A-Mole

The DNC should buy that entire time block and just run a blank screen with the words “There’s nothing to see here because the Republicans are afraid to answer tough questions”.

With an American flag fluttering in the background.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:48:06pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

assets.amuniversal.com

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Blizard  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:48:18pm

I read this somewhere earlier, can’t recall where- take away the vowels out of Reince Priebus’s name and you get:

RNC PR BS

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:48:37pm

:Governor Huckabee, your views on church and state resemble that of the Islamic Republic of Iran, expand on that.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:48:54pm

re: #109 Blizard

I read this somewhere earlier, can’t recall where- take away the vowels out of Reince Priebus’s name and you get:

RNC PR BS

Probably here heh.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:48:57pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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You know, I always thought there is a element of bullshit in this whole ‘body language’ thing.
*shrugs*

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:49:21pm

re: #108 gocart mozart

assets.amuniversal.com

Oh, that’s good.

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:49:25pm

At the risk of being hooted from the room, I’ll say Jeb@ isn’t done yet. Only Trump and Carson are clearly ahead of him, and both have such obvious weaknesses that even Jeb$ can hit them; Jeb) has over $100 million in Super PAC money; Jeb% still has the endorsements of more officeholders than anyone else, in an environment where no one has any real campaigning structure; and Jeb&’s opponents who have ever held office are almost as distrusted as Jeb^.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:49:44pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Ted Nugent has offered his wisdom on the kid who was desk-dumped by the school cop:

As Nugent opined, “As the liberal denial freaks recoil in feigned horror at such “unnecessary” violent disruption by the good officer Fields, I am proud to stand with the many millions of Americans who know damn well she had it coming, and clearly long overdue at that.”

Not linking to drivel.

Jailbait-loving, pants-shitting draft dodger says what?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:50:21pm

re: #114 Brian J.

At the risk of being hooted from the room, I’ll say Jeb@ isn’t done yet. Only Trump and Carson are clearly ahead of him, and both have such obvious weaknesses that even Jeb$ can hit them; Jeb) has over $100 million in Super PAC money; Jeb% still has the endorsements of more officeholders than anyone else, in an environment where no one has any real campaigning structure; and Jeb&’s opponents who have ever held office are almost as distrusted as Jeb^.

Yeah you’re right about that. He’s not done by a long shot but he’s definitely underperforming.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:50:56pm

“Governor Huckabee, who has the hotter underaged girlfriends, Phil Robertson, Josh Duggar, or Ted Nugent?”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:51:17pm

re: #114 Brian J.

At the risk of being hooted from the room, I’ll say Jeb@ isn’t done yet. Only Trump and Carson are clearly ahead of him, and both have such obvious weaknesses that even Jeb$ can hit them; Jeb) has over $100 million in Super PAC money; Jeb% still has the endorsements of more officeholders than anyone else, in an environment where no one has any real campaigning structure; and Jeb&’s opponents who have ever held office are almost as distrusted as Jeb^.

I learned from 2012 never to write off a GOP candidate.
They’re like political zombies.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:51:45pm

Uh oh.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:52:54pm

“Senator Paul, which of Alex Jones conspiracy theories do you think is most likely true?”

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:53:03pm

re: #118 Varek Raith

I learned from 2012 never to write off a GOP candidate.
They’re like political zombies.

True. Zombies are supposed to be killed with a shot to the brain. There’s not a marksman on Earth who can reliably hit targets that small.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:53:30pm

A flat earther and a flat taxer walk into a bar, and fall off the edge into space.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:53:52pm

“Governor Christie, are you still not over failing Mrs. Jones’ third grade math test because that’s no reason to take your anger out on all teachers?”

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:53:57pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

Uh oh.

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It’s not so bad. Apparently it’s just asbestos.

Republicans should be cleared to reenter immediately.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:55:39pm

“Dr. Carson, you do know that the Nazis weren’t cartoon characters, they were living breathing people who killed over 20 million people.”

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:55:44pm

re: #21 jaunte

Which is why they’re resorting to second amendment solutions.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:55:44pm

re: #124 Brian J.

It’s not so bad. Apparently it’s just asbestos.

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Republicans should be cleared to reenter immediately.

We don’ need no stinkin’ OSHA standards.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:56:17pm

“Senator Cruz, how does it feel to be hated even by your fellow Republicans for being a complete prick?”

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Blizard  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:57:07pm

But no, really, when do more of the candidates start to drop like flies? Surely the guys at the kiddie table need to give up soon. What idiots!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:58:12pm

re: #129 Blizard

But no, really, when do more of the candidates start to drop like flies? Surely the guys at the kiddie table need to give up soon. What idiots!

I think we’ll start seeing some drop after Thanksgiving and around Christmas. But yeah those guys especially I do not get it at all.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:58:29pm

Today’s Bob and Chez podcast reviewed last night’s shitshow. It’s just so goddamn offensive to see these psychos running for president. To a person, they stand up and there and unapologetically lie, knowing that they can get away with it.

And let’s not forget the audience. I cannot express how resentful I am that I have to share this country with these fucking morons.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:59:41pm

re: #131 Mattand

Today’s Bob and Chez podcast reviewed last night’s shitshow. It’s just so goddamn offensive to see these psychos running for president. To a person, they stand up and there and unapologetically lie, knowing that they can get away with it.

And let’s not forget the audience. I cannot express how resentful I am that I have to share this country with these fucking morons.

I actually find the audiences much more frustrating since they’re our neighbors and hell in some cases family members who believe this whacked out shit.

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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 5:59:59pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

So I hear ESPN shut down Grantland. I might be sad if I had ever read a single article at Grantland. It’s probably my fault they went under.

If CCJ wasn’t busy hangin’ with his man Zimmerman I’m sure he’d take credit for it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:00:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:01:32pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:01:42pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:03:00pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:03:01pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

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Thanks to my time machine, we’ll soon find out!
…
..
.
He ran out of ammo.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:03:31pm

“Among the FINEST MEN I HAVE EVER MET!”

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:04:43pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:04:54pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

“Among the FINEST MEN I HAVE EVER MET!”

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Considering CCJ’s history of associations, that could be true.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:05:15pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

It’s like getting an endorsement from a botfly.

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:05:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:06:37pm

‘Nighty nighty and happy All Hallows’ Eve

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:06:47pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

“Among the FINEST MEN I HAVE EVER MET!”

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I smell a worse version of the John Lennon-Harry Nilsosn Lost Weekends there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:07:29pm

re: #143 gocart mozart

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No actually, “Can you further tell us why President Obama is a bad parent and why you are not?”

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:07:49pm

re: #138 Varek Raith

This?
(Jesus descrucificado) Djesus UnCrossed

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:09:30pm

RINO!!!

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:09:37pm

re: #114 Brian J.

At the risk of being hooted from the room, I’ll say Jeb@ isn’t done yet. Only Trump and Carson are clearly ahead of him, and both have such obvious weaknesses that even Jeb$ can hit them; Jeb) has over $100 million in Super PAC money; Jeb% still has the endorsements of more officeholders than anyone else, in an environment where no one has any real campaigning structure; and Jeb&’s opponents who have ever held office are almost as distrusted as Jeb^.

On the downside for Jeb is the fact that despite all that money, he’s had to lay off people, his COO left/fired/quit, and he’s forced staffers to take pay cuts.

And when you’re fielding questions on whether your campaign is terminal, face it, your campaign is terminal.

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Whack-A-Mole  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:10:24pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Why is Ted Cruz wishing us a Happy Halloween?

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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:15:36pm

louis c.k. as abe lincoln

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:17:11pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:17:13pm

re: #144 De Kolta Chair

Happy Halloween
Image: b17aa5f3319cc645b8e045d45efcc7c1.jpg

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:17:23pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

I would love for someone from the BBC to interview CCJ. They’d tear him apart so fast he’d hang up on ‘em.

“A Fine Man”-yeah, like Coyote Shivers was a fine man, too, In Chuck’s world view. What a douchenozzle.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:20:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:21:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:21:42pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:22:21pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:23:15pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Can’t wait for the pics.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:23:15pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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Decent receiver too for the Steelers in the 90’s too. But yeah I remember him when he played with the O’s. Great defensive catcher.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:23:45pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

“Among the FINEST MEN I HAVE EVER MET!”

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This is pushing me over the edge.

He thinks his path to success is hanging onto the coat tails of today’s Manson.

I’m going to watch this.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:24:01pm

High-tech minimalism: Cassini looking back at Enceladus

latimes.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:25:48pm
They grow up so fast.
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:25:49pm

re: #154 gocart mozart

Happy Halloween
Image: b17aa5f3319cc645b8e045d45efcc7c1.jpg

Hey, that’s Billy Donovan.

(I bought a bag of Reese’s cups for the tricksters if I get any)

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:28:04pm

UpChuck thinks George Zimmerman is one of the finest humans he’s ever met because he actually killed a n***** and got away with it. Simple as that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:29:36pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

UpChuck thinks George Zimmerman is one of the finest humans he’s ever met because he actually killed a n***** and got away with it. Simple as that.

I am waiting for his meeting with Edgar Ray Killen. Chucky’s probably jealous he never got to mete James Earl Ray or Byron de la Beckwith I bet.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:29:46pm

Mike Lofgren (former Republican congressional staff member who served on both the House and Senate budget committees)

The GOP and the Rise of Anti-Knowledge

“…At present, however, a person can be blissfully ignorant of how to locate Kenya on a map, but know to a metaphysical certitude that Barack Obama was born there, because he learned it from Fox News. Likewise, he can be unable to differentiate a species from a phylum but be confident from viewing the 700 Club that evolution is “politically correct” hooey and that the earth is 6,000 years old.

And he may never have read the Constitution and have no clue about the Commerce Clause, but believe with an angry righteousness that the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:37:02pm

re: #168 jaunte

Mike Lofgren (former Republican congressional staff member who served on both the House and Senate budget committees)

The GOP and the Rise of Anti-Knowledge

Good article. It’s too bad that he’ll be brushed off as a RINO.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:38:37pm

re: #109 Blizard
Well, this might be further back than you meant:
balloon-juice.com

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:40:45pm

re: #3 jaunte

there’s nothing you can do about someone like Ted Cruz, who isn’t encumbered by either truth or civility.

There is, but the law frowns upon it.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:42:20pm

re: #5 jaunte

If you wont answer questions you dont like from the moderators of a debate, how will you ever negotiate as POTUS?

We haz nukes!

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:43:45pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Charles Manson is still available.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:45:06pm

re: #173 lawhawk

Charles Manson is still available.

That’s true. He wouldn’t have to travel as far too.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:45:20pm

re: #173 lawhawk

Charles Manson is still available.

He probably spent a ton of money trying to find Darren Wilson. But that dude went underground.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:45:59pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

That’s true. He wouldn’t have to travel as far too.

Manson: “who the fuck is this Chuck????”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:46:35pm
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:46:49pm

re: #15 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

That was not the case

next: will it ever be possible for a reporter to ask an easy enough question for a republican to answer?

Nah. Considering how nuts most of them are even asking, “What colour is the sky?” might be a ‘Gotcha!’ question.

Teh sky is red at sunup and sunset! The Commies have taken over!

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:46:52pm

SICK

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:47:11pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:47:33pm

Shouldn’t he be retracting most of what he has said for the last few years?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:51:01pm

re: #177 jaunte

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Suppository Man!

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:53:00pm

George Carlin on Cigars

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Brian J.  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:53:31pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

Shouldn’t he be retracting most of what he has said for the last few years?

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If even one MK walks out on him as a result, his government loses its majority. So as nice and necessary as that would be, it won’t happen.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2015 • 6:53:58pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:01:13pm

Only 150 miles from the Yellowstone caldera. Hmm.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:01:37pm

re: #180 jaunte

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Do they mean people like his Dad who was first elected to office in the Carter years?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:02:11pm

And yeah i know the old man wasn’t part of the GOP establishment but he still was in office at the federal level in the 70’s.

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:03:34pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

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Only 150 miles from the Yellowstone caldera. Hmm.

Oh great.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:04:17pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

They’ll probably have height lines behind them and a placard with their prisoner number on it.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:06:59pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

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Only 150 miles from the Yellowstone caldera. Hmm.

A follow-up evidently from the outfitter’s Facebook page:

“An engineer from Riverton, WY came out to shed a little light on this giant crack in the earth. Apparently, a wet spring lubricated across a cap rock. Then, a small spring on either side caused the bottom to slide out. [The engineer] estimated 15 to 20 million yards of movement. By range finder, an estimate is 750 yards long and about 50 yards wide.”

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:10:47pm
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Great White Snark  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:11:25pm

All Hallows eve… Our very, very pregnant friend & her husband will stop by our party after all. Her costume? Long white T-Shirt done up as an eviction notice. “3 days to move”. She was technically due Wednesday, what a sense of humor!

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blueraven  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:13:21pm

Good grief. This is an actual, for real comment at WSJ. The article is about Jeb’s! COO leaving the campaign. So….

Leland Van Oss wrote:
WHY HAS THIS NATION SHED THE BLOOD OF OUR YOUNG MEN AN WOMEN IN BATTEL FIELDS ALL OVER THE WORLD TO KEEP THIIS NATION AND OUTHER NATIONS SAFE AND FREE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN. THEN WHY IN GODS NAME HAVE WE ABORTED MILLIONS OF GODS BELOVED CHILDREN AND THEN CUT THEM UP AND SELL THERE BODY PARTS FOR PROFIT. AND PLEASE REMBER THIS, ABORTION IS NOT FOR WOMENS HEALTH. TO ALL PARTY MEMBERS WHO WILL VOTE PRO CHIOCE WHEN THIS BILL COMES UP AGAIN. REMBER THAT SOME OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO GAVE UP THER LIVES TO KEEP YOU AND YOURS SAFE AND FREE

PLEAS PRAY That THOES WHO GAVE Up THERE LIVES for all of God Children, Did Not Die In Vane.

Please pass this on to all political parties who will vote on this bill when it comes up for a vote again.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:13:44pm

This is a cautionary pic of why people should wear their seat belts and not drive like an idiot:

Man killed in 5 Freeway rollover crash, ejected onto freeway sign

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WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:15:08pm

re: #194 blueraven

Good grief. This is an actual, for real comment at WSJ. The article is about Jeb’s! COO leaving the campaign. So….

Ooooookay, then.

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:16:19pm

re: #194 blueraven

Good grief. This is an actual, for real comment at WSJ. The article is about Jeb’s! COO leaving the campaign. So….

*cues Twilight Zone theme*

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:19:47pm

re: #194 blueraven

(Starts hiding any sharp implements.)

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:20:16pm

re: #194 blueraven

Good grief. This is an actual, for real comment at WSJ. The article is about Jeb’s! COO leaving the campaign. So….

fucked

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:22:20pm

re: #195 TedStriker

This is a cautionary pic of why people should wear their seat belts and not drive like an idiot:

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Man killed in 5 Freeway rollover crash, ejected onto freeway sign

Whoa if true.

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:22:43pm

re: #192 Stanley Sea Toujours

And Rummy sent that memo to “the dumbest fucking guy on the planet”?

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Great White Snark  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:25:16pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

Whoa if true.

Yeah kinda seems impossible huh? Night before Halloween? Beyond lottery odds.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:25:33pm

There’s a lot of crap in my Facebook feed tonight. There’s also some zingers, like this.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:32:36pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

Whoa if true.

I believe it, but worst website ever.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:33:26pm

Charles, have you thought of linking your Twitter feed to Facebook?

I used to have my Twitter linked to my Facebook. No more! Apparently my politics are verboten for a lot of folks I went to primary school with.

I’m really picky about what goes in my Facebook. I stick to music, skiing, and humor. Facebook is a cesspool as it is, I’ll only add shit that may tamp down the dumpster fire that is that site. I post something to Facebook about once or twice a week, if that.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:35:28pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

Charles, have you thought of linking your Twitter feed to Facebook?

I used to have my Twitter linked to my Facebook. No more! Apparently my politics are verboten for a lot of folks I went to primary school with.

I’m really picky about what goes in my Facebook, I stick to music, skiing, and humor. Facebook is a cesspool as it is, I’ll only add shit that may tamp down the dumpster fire that is that site. I post something to Facebook about once or twice a week, if that.

I did for a while, but I really didn’t like how it worked. Seemed very impersonal and automated.

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blueraven  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:39:09pm

Watch for a change in Carson’s answer very soon. He will say he didn’t know he was supposed to answer HELL NO to that question…he is not a politician!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:39:18pm

Even Chuck Johnson’s Facebook friends think he’s off the rails with his George Zimmerman posts.

Chuck is a gross human being so horrible that even other horrible humans think he’s horrible.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:43:22pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

I refuse to have a Facebook account. The only reason why I have a Twitter account is to taunt the stupid, and I may shut that down (again) as I should be able to make better use of my time than arguing with the reincarnation of the know-nothings of the 1800s.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:45:21pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:45:33pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

Whoa if true.

Saw that go by on Twitter this morning. LA Times reported on it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:46:23pm

re: #194 blueraven

Please tell me this guy has a college degree.

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darthstar  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:47:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2015 • 7:49:19pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:00:51pm

Couple of real nice shots of Wizard Island (Crater Lake, Oregon) here. Not cropped, just shrank the image for size.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:02:06pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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That’s my impression. Sometimes he’s right on but when the guy is wrong, he’s fucking wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:03:50pm

re: #207 blueraven

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Watch for a change in Carson’s answer very soon. He will say he didn’t know he was supposed to answer HELL NO to that question…he is not a politician!

Yeah I expect him to have a change of heart on the issue after Wayne the Dick and friends have a little talk with him.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:08:54pm
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nines09  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:16:19pm

Somewhere Down The Crazy River
Was reminded of Robbie Robertson tonight……Thought of a favorite…..Hope you like it. Night all, tomorrow…….

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:37:08pm

Mets win Game 3 in NY 9-3!!

It’s a Series again!

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Jayleia  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:37:21pm

The one in back looks a bit like David Childress…the one in front looks a LOT like Giorgio Tsoukoulos.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:40:46pm

And I am off to bed. Have a good evening Lizards!

Pie and cookies baked for a charity event tomorrow. Board game-a-thon.

Terrestrial Mollusc -yes, that’s a quarter
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Lidane  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:40:55pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:46:21pm

re: #220 Jay C

Mets win Game 3 in NY 9-3!!

It’s a Series again!

Yay Mets!

The coolest thing I heard today.

Trash talk has never been so literate. For the World Series, the Kansas City and Queens Public Libraries are in the middle of a Twitter showdown.

npr.org

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:48:43pm

re: #220 Jay C

Mets win Game 3 in NY 9-3!!

It’s a Series again!

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:53:08pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart

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My 85 year old Aunt Joan (Mets fan since forever, most likely the reason the family is on that train) she’s on the edge of a skyscraper, as she relates to me. I’ll check in with her tomorrow.

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prairiefire  Oct 30, 2015 • 8:59:42pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea Toujours

It’s been in my Facebook feed, so fun.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:02:26pm

Watching local news (something I almost never do) here in Jacksonville.
So, on top of the Georgia - Florida game tomorrow, FBI have been sending warning out to local Law Enforcement agencies that anarchist groups are calling for supporters to draw police into ambushes tomorrow night.

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retired cynic  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:03:14pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart

That’s not good.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:06:56pm

re: #229 retired cynic

That’s not good.

No, not at all. Just the warning/threat of ambush could result in LEOs possibly overreacting to typical Halloween shenanigans

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:10:43pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart

Watching local news (something I almost never do) here in Jacksonville.
So, on top of the Georgia - Florida game tomorrow, FBI have been sending warning out to local Law Enforcement agencies that anarchist groups are calling for supporters to draw police into ambushes tomorrow night.

Wha?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:11:33pm

re: #230 FormerDirtDart

No, not at all. Just the warning/threat of ambush could result in LEOs possibly overreacting to typical Halloween shenanigans

don’t take my ziplock full of jim beam as a threat

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:16:16pm

I just found this satirical news show on YouTube, from Mexico, El Pulso de la Republica.

There’s an English language version and a Spanish one, but the Spanish one is more entertaining, if you can follow the rapid fire Spanish.

WHAT DA TRUMP? - EL PULSO US

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:20:14pm

When you keep clicking YouTube, you find a forgotten gem:

The Marmalade - Reflections Of My Life

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:20:16pm

Reality TV: Watching Trump’s reaction to his no way no how becoming the GOP nominee.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:22:29pm

re: #82 jaunte

I’ve eaten at Zombie Burger. Highly recommend. I don’t recommend Rand Paul, however.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:22:38pm

re: #234 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

When you keep clicking YouTube, you find a forgotten gem:

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Video

When we actually heard their voices.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:23:40pm
TEXTBOOK example of Kelvin-Helmholtz clouds seen over Breckenridge today. The clouds often form on windy days (faster wind on top of the wave versus the bottom…wind shear), when there’s a difference in densities of the air, for example, during a temperature inversion. They’re often good indicators of atmospheric instability and the presence of turbulence for aircraft. VERY COOL! -Brian Bledsoe, KKTV-11
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:25:00pm

re: #231 Stanley Sea Toujours

Wha?

Strangely, all reporting I am finding seems to link to this New York Post article

FBI warns of anarchist plot to ambush cops on Halloween
The FBI released an alert Monday warning the NYPD and police departments nationwide of a potentially dangerous anarchist group that says it plans to ambush cops on Halloween.

The extremist group - known as the National Liberation Militia - has proposed a “Halloween Revolt” that encourages supporters to cause a disturbance to attract police and then viciously attack them, the FBI said.

The group has recommended that members wear typical Halloween masks and use weapons such as bricks, bottles and firearms, according to the release.

The NYPD Intelligence Bureau is monitoring the threat, and there is no known link between the threat and New York City law enforcement specifically, the FBI said.

Edit:
I ventured to Breitbart, and they seem to have followed typical form and pointed toward “black power groups”, which of course is not mentioned or suggested anywhere else-

NBC noted that the FBI said that this “National Liberation Militia” is a group on their watch list, but also pointed out that little can be found about the group online. A look online shows a black power group called the New Black Liberation Militia, but no mention of the group revealed by the FBI this week. There is also no mention of the National Liberation Militia on the FBI’s website.

Still, it is not uncommon for first responders to be ambushed upon arriving at the scene of a fire or a crime.

Last November, for instance, in Leon County, Florida, police and firemen were fired upon when they responded to a house fire. One sheriff’s deputy was shot and killed, and a second deputy was also shot in the incident. The shooter was eventually killed by Tallahassee police who also responded to the scene.

Black Lives Matter protesters have also interfered with first responders. Earlier this year a rioter in Baltimore was arrested after cutting a fire hose when firemen arrived to put out the flames of a CVS pharmacy set ablaze by protesters. Also, during protests in New York in December of last year, several protesters tried to stop police from arresting a CUNY professor for throwing a trash can and inciting a riot.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:39:05pm

While I was fooling around with YouTube, I saw a link for “In the Year 2525”. It’s hard enough to imagine society five hundred years from now, but can you imagine what the Republican campaign will be like by (EDIT) February?

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prairiefire  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:42:46pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

It’s like they are reflecting the shape of the mountains

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:43:30pm

re: #239 FormerDirtDart

Strangely, all reporting I am finding seems to link to this New York Post article

Edit:
I ventured to Breitbart, and they seem to have followed typical form and pointed toward “black power groups”, which of course is not mentioned or suggested anywhere else-

Typical reaction to cops being caught doing bad things. They pound back with the new THREAT against them.

Create a new FEAR.

Major history on this. They are well trained.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 30, 2015 • 9:44:59pm

Night all.

Fuck the corrupt police! And there are many.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:07:55pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

I’m afraid to ask, but here goes: was it about Muslims or vaccinations?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:25:09pm

re: #244 Mattand

I’m afraid to ask, but here goes: was it about Muslims or vaccinations?

Perhaps this?
rawstory.com

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:30:53pm

re: #245 Varek Raith

Perhaps this?
rawstory.com

Christ. Between his anti-vax idiocy and his anti-Muslim bigotry, it’s easy to forget he’s got this borderline pathological dislike of kids.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:34:54pm

Tennessee Mountain Angel

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:42:18pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

“Among the FINEST MEN I HAVE EVER MET!”

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“He’s only shot at me twice so far!”

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:42:27pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:46:38pm
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John Vreeland  Oct 30, 2015 • 10:50:35pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:00:18pm

re: #251 John Vreeland

I find it amusing that the candidates and the RNC are mad at CNBC, a network that caters to investors and the business world. The questions that were asked are exactly the kinds of questions the CNBC audience would want answers to, just in case they wanted to vote for one of these nutjobs.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:15:24pm

re: #231 Stanley Sea Toujours

Wha?

FYI:

Plot Trolls
Rumors about anarchist plot (hatched by the heretofore unknown “National Liberation Militia”) to attack police on Halloween don’t appear to be very credible. […]

snopes.com

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:25:41pm

ONE ON ONE: Robbie Fulks March 7th, 2015 City Winery New York Full Session

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Tigger2  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:33:28pm

re: #251 John Vreeland

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John Vreeland  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:40:36pm

re: #252 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

One of the moderators Ted Cruz nominated for the next debate (along with Hannity and some guy named Limbaugh)—Mark Levin—was implying that Fox News was responsible for starting the MSM pinko destruction of the GOP. If they follow through with Ted’s idea this will be one weird debate.

I can imagine the questions now. They will be multiple-choice and will all have the same answers:
A. Yes
B. No
C. Benghazi
D. Jesus

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CuriousLurker  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:43:34pm

Speaking of Snopes, this is why we can’t have nice things anymore:

Katy Skid
A middle school student in Katy, Texas, claimed her teacher insisted she deny the existence of God; but the assignment in question was taken far out of context in media reports. […]

snopes.com

The teacher didn’t do any such thing, she was trying to teach the kids critical thinking skills (the horror!) and asked them to classify several statements as a factual claims, assertions, or opinions. One of those statements was “There is a God.”

Naturally, this was taken out of context. The student clearly didn’t understand the assignment and I’m gonna guess the parents must’ve gone ballistic without fact checking anything (no doubt fearing some of that awful Christian persecution) and called the media, who made it even worse because… clickbait!

Sadly, both school and teacher were cowed by the outrage and as a result ungraded assignment was deemed “ill-conceived” and blamed for the girl’s inability to understand it. Therefore “the activity will no longer be used by the school, and the teacher has been advised and appropriate personnel action will be taken.”

WTF, America? In-effing-credible. I’m gonna log off before I totally lose my cool.

G’nite, lizards.

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John Vreeland  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:47:03pm

OT, but why is CJ calling himself “Charred Monster” on Twitter? I was confused. (Imagine a confused emoji face here, thanks)

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:48:42pm

re: #258 John Vreeland

OT, but why is CJ calling himself “Charred Monster” on Twitter? I was confused. (Imagine a confused emoji face here, thanks)

It’s a Halloween thing. goddamnedfrank is calling himself g’damnedfrankenstein these days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 30, 2015 • 11:50:19pm

Grrrrrr…..

I mentioned this the other day, my friend from college who became a cop. He just posted this shit:

Dude, seriously?

If ‘good cops’ don’t stop circling the wagons whenever one of their number is caught redhanded abusing his authority, if they keep excusing the inexcusable, if they don’t stop blaming the victims, if they don’t start being the FIRST to attack the bad cops, they will lose respect even in those communities where they are still respected.

We give them the authority to kill people in our name, one of the most awesome responsibilities we can give. And they’re fucking it up.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:08:59am

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly, this cop shouldn’t have been fired then, right? Ask your friend. Wait—he’s your friend from college? So I suppose he always did exactly as he was told, right? RIGHT??

Also ask him which “law” specifically the school girl in SC was breaking.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:09:22am

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

Cops hate cops who squeal. It’s a misplaced loyalty to the brotherhood thing. I’m glad that the deputy who manhandled that teenager in her classroom got sacked. His boss did the right thing.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:09:24am

Okay, really leaving this time.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:10:17am

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Cops hate cops who squeal. It’s a misplaced loyalty to the brotherhood thing. I’m glad that the deputy who manhandled that teenager in her classroom got sacked. His boss did the right thing.

He needs to be arrested for felony assault.

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Kragar  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:17:03am

re: #1 stpaulbear

GOP official admits to faking threats — and an innocent man may have spent 18 years in prison for it

Former Stanislaus County clerk recorder Karen Mathews Davis, who claimed she stood up to terrorists in the 1990s, admitted to federal authorities that she sent the threatening letters after she failed a polygraph test. She was arrested and charged in California on Wednesday. She was released Thursday after posting a $50,000 bond.

What concerns prosecutors is that Mathews Davis also claimed that Roger Steiner attacked and sexually assaulted her in her garage in 1994, resulting in Steiner being sent to a federal prison for 18 years.

According to former state and federal prosecutor Bill Portanova, the confession by Mathews Davis brings into question her accusations against Steiner who, to this day, maintains his innocence.

“And the intriguing part is the latest story that she admits is a lie sounds a lot like the first story that she testified to under oath,” Portanova said. “Depending on how severe the lies are and whether or not they are directly related to sending an innocent man to prison, she could going to prison herself for many years.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:24:23am

re: #261 CuriousLurker

Clearly, this cop shouldn’t have been fired then, right? Ask your friend. Wait—he’s your friend from college? So I suppose he always did exactly as he was told, right? RIGHT??

Also ask him which “law” specifically the school girl in SC was breaking.

I taught high school a long time. I can understand what that girl was doing, and why. She was challenging first her teacher’s authority, then the cop’s. But it was a minor infraction, and not worth calling in the cops.

Her teacher fucked up the situation by making a deal about the cellphone being out. Maybe it’s a school rule, but making a big stink about it disrupts the class way more than the student’s apparent disobedience. If the teacher had waited a few more minutes, or just conducted the day’s lesson, she probably would have put the phone away after a few minutes. Also, if the teacher tried to relate to the students better, he/she might have already known the girl had just lost her mom and then just let the cellphone thing slide.

I have lost my temper at my students, but only rarely. Having been a teacher, I know how absolutely frustrating working with teenagers can be sometimes, but there are some fights not worth fighting. It’s better to get on with the lessons, and hope the situation resolves itself, if it is not really disruptive to the class. As much as the cop deserved punishment, the teacher involved needs some counseling on classroom management.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:29:42am

re: #266 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father is a lifelong educator, teaching high school history since 1975, still does to this day. He enjoys it.

He’s never voted for a Democrat for President, ever.

I asked dad what he thought about that teenager getting choke-slammed in the classroom. He raised his voice and used much profanity.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:36:54am

Heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:52:21am

re: #268 teleskiguy

Heh.

Someone painted a “rape Trump” mural on the Mexican border

Obviously a CNBC moderator…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:58:16am

Uh oh…..

A Russian civilian plane carrying 224 people crashed in Sinai on Saturday, the Egyptian Prime Minister said, amid earlier conflicting reports that the plane was safely continuing its journey.

Egyptian air traffic control lost contact with the Airbus A-321, operated by Russian airline Kogalymavia, shortly after it took off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to head to Russia, aviation sources told Reuters news agency.

“The … Russian airline had told us that the Russian plane we lost contact with is safe and that it has contacted Turkish air traffic control and is passing through Turkish skies now,” Ayman al-Muqaddam, the head of the central air traffic accident authority in Egypt, said in a statement.

But local Egyptian media reported the plane had crashed in Sinai, a claim later confirmed by the PM.

english.alarabiya.net

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:01:51am

re: #267 teleskiguy

My father is a lifelong educator, teaching high school history since 1975, still does to this day. He enjoys it.

He’s never voted for a Democrat for President, ever.

I asked dad what he thought about that teenager getting choke-slammed in the classroom. He raised his voice and used much profanity.

Did he blame the girl, or the teacher and cop?

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:04:58am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Did he blame the girl, or the teacher and cop?

He blamed the cop all the way. He also blamed the teacher and the principal for not knowing how to do their jobs. He looked at it as a black eye for the profession.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:07:09am

Blogger wants girls’ Halloween costumes to be “More than Cute”

bbc.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:07:35am

re: #272 teleskiguy

He blamed the cop all the way. He also blamed the teacher and the principal for not knowing how to do their jobs. He looked at it as a black eye for the profession.

I like your dad.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:13:53am

re: #275 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I like your dad.

My dad is awesome. Both my parents are awesome. I’m lucky that way.

Here’s a picture of me and my dad a long time ago.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:14:47am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

Uh oh…..

english.alarabiya.net

Oh man, there’s going to be a new conspiracy theory born every minute over this, especially since it crashed in the Sinai: The Zionists! The Muslim Brotherhood! Russian false flag operation! Wait, someone claimed it was passing through Turkish skies? Da’esh prolly shot it down with one of their condom bombs!

No wait, let’s blame the Palestinians because of Mufti Amin al-Husseini’s association with Hitler! Or Obama. Or Hillary because Benghazi!

I can’t take any more bad crazy.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:18:33am

re: #277 CuriousLurker

Oh man, there’s going to be a new conspiracy theory born every minute over this, especially since it crashed in the Sinai: The Zionists! The Muslim Brotherhood! Russian false flag operation! Wait, someone claimed it was passing through Turkish skies? Da’esh prolly shot it down with one of their condom bombs!

No wait, let’s blame the Palestinians because of Mufti Amin al-Husseinis association with Hitler! Or Obama. Or Hillary because Benghazi.

I can’t take any more bad crazy.

From what I’m reading, it (presumably) crashed shortly after takeoff from Sharm el-Sheikh. The flight was headed to St. Petersburg. I just checked Flightradar24 and bupkis; it’s not there. There was some earlier confusion, but it seems to have gone down, unfortunately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:18:42am

It would be fitting if NBC simply ceased covering the GOP…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:19:14am

re: #276 teleskiguy

My dad is awesome. Both my parents are awesome. I’m lucky that way.

Here’s a picture of me and my dad a long time ago.

I lucked out in the parent department as well. I’ve tried to live up to their example.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:28:34am

re: #280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I lucked out in the parent department as well. I’ve tried to live up to their example.

My folks were great, I just never got enough of them: dad died when I was young and mom had to go to work six days a week to support us.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:28:51am

I present, The Dude! (Not my kid, but from a post at heroicgirls.com)

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:32:30am

re: #273 Not a Sparkly Vampire

One DC Cop’s Creative Way To Deal With A Group Of Teens

Here’s a YouTube version ;-)

Youtube Video

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:40:50am

re: #276 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:46:02am

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:47:27am

private elitist comments

probably plotting how to take away our guns

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:50:03am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

private elitist comments

probably plotting how to take away our guns

Little do they know I have none to take away.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:50:05am

A fire roared through an nightclub in Bucharest, Romania yesterday evening leaving 27 dead and over 150 injured.

theguardian.com

The cause; indoor fireworks. There are quite a few of these disasters, The Station nightclub fire springing to my mind first and foremost as well as the Lame Horse Club disaster in Perm (150+ dead), the Kiss nightclub fire (242 dead), the República Cromañón disaster in Argentina (194 dead)…..all of them caused by the use of fireworks indoors.

When will people fucking learn?

*sigh*

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:53:33am

I think I’m in love.

This is Telemark | Jasmin Taylor

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:54:28am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Little do they know I have none to take away.

You see? you are so afraid of jackboots kicking down your door that you do not dare even exercise your God-given and Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights!

Obama will still come and arrest you for thought crime for CRAVING guns!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:54:41am

re: #286 teleskiguy

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:55:21am

re: #289 Dr Lizardo

A fire roared through an nightclub in Bucharest, Romania yesterday evening leaving 27 dead and over 150 injured.

theguardian.com

The cause; indoor fireworks.

Wasn’t there some similar disaster at a Whitesnake concert about 15 years ago?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:56:32am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You see? you are so afraid of jackboots kicking down your door that you do not dare even exercise your God-given and Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights!

Obama will still come and arrest you for thought crime for CRAVING guns!!!

He can try, but I’m in China. He’ll have to send in a drone to take me out!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:57:24am

re: #294 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He can try, but I’m in China. He’ll have to send in a drone to take me out!

Obama’s tyranny knows no borders!!!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:58:43am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t there some similar disaster at a Whitesnake concert about 15 years ago?

Great White.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:59:35am

re: #296 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Great White.

Something white with Big Hair…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 1:59:45am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t there some similar disaster at a Whitesnake concert about 15 years ago?

The Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island. 100 dead, the cause of the disaster being the ignition of flammable material inside the club by the use of small pyrotechnics.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:00:55am

re: #292 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:03:39am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t there some similar disaster at a Whitesnake concert about 15 years ago?

It was Great White. One of the worst nightclub fires in United States history.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:05:16am

From what I’m reading, the cause of the fire in the Bucharest nightclub is identical to The Station - the band playing at Club Colectiv, Goodbye to Gravity, used pyrotechnics which caused the ignition of polyurethane acoustic foam material. Basically, this is a horrific replay of the 2003 Rhode Island disaster.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:38:49am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

Mr. Netanyahu, criticized even by Israeli historians for distorting facts

I don’t like the turn of the phrase. The Israeli historians are able to see through BS no less than any other historians. In fact, they can see through this particular BS even better.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:50:47am

re: #214 Charles Johnson

I once watched his documentary, Religulous, many years ago. I had been ready for a critique that would be intellectually hard-hitting and funny at once, sort of like some of Michael Moore’s stuff (let’s ignore its own problematic nature for a sec - but the man can make a film).

It turned out to be a yuuuuge meh, very superficial. So I find that Maher doesn’t offer much to offset the asshole sides of his shtick.

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nkdee  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:53:14am

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

That would be the beauty of it! She could ask anything she wants and they could answer anyway they want. That is what they do anyway….ignore the question and make a non-answer answer.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:57:00am

re: #277 CuriousLurker

Putin’s Russia would want to blame someone, that’s for sure. But they have an OK relationship with Al Sisi, and Egypt excludes a terrorist attack, so I don’t think they will be able to make a huge political thing out of it. (And now watch me being proved wrong…/)

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 2:59:37am
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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 4:01:14am
We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.

~ Gary North

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 4:09:47am

re: #307 Nyet

We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.

~ Gary North

Yet another reason we cannot let the GOP anywhere near the White House. People like Gary North have all to big a voice in that party.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2015 • 4:43:57am

re: #257 CuriousLurker

Speaking of Snopes, this is why we can’t have nice things anymore:

The teacher didn’t do any such thing, she was trying to teach the kids critical thinking skills (the horror!) and asked them to classify several statements as a factual claims, assertions, or opinions. One of those statements was “There is a God.”

Naturally, this was taken out of context. The student clearly didn’t understand the assignment and I’m gonna guess the parents must’ve gone ballistic without fact checking anything (no doubt fearing some of that awful Christian persecution) and called the media, who made it even worse because… clickbait!

Sadly, both school and teacher were cowed by the outrage and as a result ungraded assignment was deemed “ill-conceived” and blamed for the girl’s inability to understand it. Therefore “the activity will no longer be used by the school, and the teacher has been advised and appropriate personnel action will be taken.”

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WTF, America? In-effing-credible. I’m gonna log off before I totally lose my cool.

G’nite, lizards.

Some people just want to be persecuted. Saying there is a God Is opinion, it’s not an objective fact. Sigh I understand maybe why the kid was confused but her parents should know fucking better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 4:47:00am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Some people just want to be persecuted. Saying there is a God Is opinion, it’s not an objective fact. Sigh I understand maybe why the kid was confused but her parents should know fucking better.

Her parents have probably been listening to Fox and Friends going on about the War on Christianity in their country and saw this as validation of their viewpoint.

And these people probably also see God not only as an undeniable fact, but as a fact that has to be imposed on everyone through legislation and education policy.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:05:55am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Her parents have probably been listening to Fox and Friends going on about the War on Christianity in their country and saw this as validation of their viewpoint.

And these people probably also see God not only as an undeniable fact, but as a fact that has to be imposed on everyone through legislation and education policy.

Because an omnipotent God needs Congress to put his plans into effect.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:06:05am

Good for the RNC. It’s about time they stopped pretending to be about facts, accountability, civility or reality in general. And, let’s face it, in this day and age, the major parties don’t need the stamp of approval from any of the “big three” networks. It’s irrelevant to their goals, audience, and grifts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:09:31am

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Because an omnipotent God needs Congress to put his plans into effect.

The Dominionist view is that we are to enact laws that reflect (their bigoted, backward interpretation of) God’s Divine Will or he is open up a big-ass can of smite all over our sorry selves.

There is no arguing with these people, we can only hope to limit the amount of damage they cause.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:10:14am

re: #277 CuriousLurker

Oh man, there’s going to be a new conspiracy theory born every minute over this, especially since it crashed in the Sinai: The Zionists! The Muslim Brotherhood! Russian false flag operation! Wait, someone claimed it was passing through Turkish skies? Da’esh prolly shot it down with one of their condom bombs!

No wait, let’s blame the Palestinians because of Mufti Amin al-Husseini’s association with Hitler! Or Obama. Or Hillary because Benghazi!

I can’t take any more bad crazy.

Yep, has to be something nefarious. No plane has ever come down because of mechanical or atmospheric misadventures.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:11:22am

re: #314 Eventual Carrion

Yep, has to be something nefarious. No plane has ever come down because of mechanical or atmospheric misadventures.

It is a volatile part of the world, so the speculation is not entirely unfounded.

Until it turns out that it isn’t, but once a conspiracy theory gets traction, it is impossible to stop.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:14:15am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Dominionist view is that we are to enact laws that reflect (their bigoted, backward interpretation of) God’s Divine Will or he is open up a big-ass can of smite all over our sorry selves.

There is no arguing with these people, we can only hope to limit the amount of damage they cause.

Yeah, I know. And all the Jews have to move to Israel, and everyone in the world have to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:16:25am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t there some similar disaster at a Whitesnake concert about 15 years ago?

Great White at Station nighclub. Ty Longley, a local boy in the band from Sharon PA died in the fire.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:17:00am

re: #306 Nyet

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:21:28am

re: #318 Nyet

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From what I’m reading, the crew of the aircraft lost in the accident had been complaining of engine problems to the techs at Sharm el-Sheikh Airport.

Crew members of the crashed airliner raised the issue of possible engine faults several times to airport technicians in Sharm el-Sheikh, a source at the airport has alleged in an interview with Russian news agency RIA Novosti.

“This aircraft appealed to the technical service in connection with engine start failure several times over the past week before this happened,” the source said.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:23:34am

re: #318 Nyet

Is the airline a charter/tour company? Maybe their maintenance is sub-par.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:24:36am

re: #318 Nyet

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Damn.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:25:43am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is the airline a charter/tour company? Maybe their maintenance is sub-par.

According to Wiki, it’s a small charter company, six aircraft in their fleet.

en.wikipedia.org

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:25:51am

re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, I know. And all the Jews have to move to Israel, and everyone in the world have to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior.

I don’t see this happening … ever. Nor do I expect the second coming … ever. I’m more worried about asteroid strikes, global warming and Chinese food scares.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:26:24am

re: #319 Dr Lizardo

Acc. to TASS (so, bag of salt) Adel Mahgoub claims that the plane was technically checked in Sharm el-Sheikh.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:28:41am

re: #324 Nyet

Acc. to TASS (so, bag of salt) Adel Mahgoub claims that the plane was technically checked in Sharm el-Sheikh.

Hmm. I just saw this on Wiki (again, grain of salt):

On November 16, 2001, while operating for Middle East Airlines, the aircraft suffered a tail strike landing in Cairo. The aircraft was repaired and went back into service with MEA in 2002

There was an incident in the past where a plane that hadn’t been properly repaired following a tail strike incident suffered catastrophic airframe failure; the tail section behind the rear bulkhead fell off the plane at cruising altitude, IIRC.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:29:26am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

According to Wiki, it’s a small charter company, six aircraft in their fleet.

en.wikipedia.org

Well, I don’t think they’ll be in business much longer.

There was probably little regular maintenance, including a necessary complete overhaul of the engines. Another possibility is bad fuel, or clogged fuel lines, but trouble with engine starts is a clear sign to switch aircraft, or ground the flight till further notice.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:31:30am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

Hmm. I just saw this on Wiki (again, grain of salt):

There was an incident in the past where a plane that hadn’t been properly repaired following a tail strike incident suffered catastrophic airframe failure; the tail section behind the rear bulkhead fell of the plane at cruising altitude, IIRC.

Yeah, those control surfaces are kinda necessary, and explosive decompression is not recommended for passenger comfort.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:44:59am

That was the disaster I was thinking of: China Airlines #611.

The final investigation report found that the accident was the result of metal fatigue caused by inadequate maintenance after an earlier tailstrike incident. On 7 February 1980, the aircraft was flying from Stockholm Arlanda Airport to Taoyuan International Airport via King Abdulaziz International Airport and Kai Tak International Airport on China Airlines Flight 009. While landing in Hong Kong, part of the plane’s tail had scraped along the runway for several hundred feet

However, the permanent repair of the tail strike was not carried out in accordance with the Boeing Structural Repair Manual (SRM). The area of damaged skin in Section 46 was not removed and the repair doubler plate that was supposed to cover in excess of 30 percent of the damaged area did not extend beyond the entire damaged area enough to restore the overall structural strength.

Consequently, after repeated cycles of depressurization and pressurization during flight, the weakened hull gradually started to crack and finally broke open in mid-flight on 25 May 2002, coincidentally 22 years to the day after the faulty repair was made upon the damaged tail. An explosive decompression of the aircraft occurred once the crack opened up, causing the complete disintegration of the aircraft in mid-air.

en.wikipedia.org

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:45:02am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

Hmm. I just saw this on Wiki (again, grain of salt):

There was an incident in the past where a plane that hadn’t been properly repaired following a tail strike incident suffered catastrophic airframe failure; the tail section behind the rear bulkhead fell off the plane at cruising altitude, IIRC.

Japan Airlines Flight 123 worst single-aircraft accident in history (520 dead).
A quite elementary error, an incorrect configuration of the doubler plates in the repaired bulkhead, caused this catastrophe.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:46:14am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel

Japan Airlines Flight 123 worst single-aircraft accident in history (520 dead).
A quite elementary error, an incorrect configuration of the doubler plates in the repaired bulkhead, caused this catastrophe.

Yep. Makes me wonder regarding this accident, that’s for sure. See my #328.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:49:55am

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

Yep. Makes me wonder regarding this accident, that’s for sure. See my #328.

Note that doubler plates figured in the JAL 123 and China Airlines 628 crashes both. Riveting on doubler plates is left-over Victorian era technology, but it is damned important to get it right.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:50:36am

Happy Punkin’ day Lizards!!

Teddy Bear the Porcupine’s Halloween Feast

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:52:46am

JAL 123 bulkhead repair error. It’s as simple as it looks, too, but 520 people lost their lives because of it.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 5:58:33am

re: #332 Dave In Austin

A talking porcupine!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:00:28am

re: #334 Nyet

A talking porcupine!

He’s known for his stinging insults and barbed wit.

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Teukka  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:05:56am

re: #333 Shiplord Kirel

JAL 123 bulkhead repair error. It’s as simple as it looks, too, but 520 people lost their lives because of it.

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Yep. One of many instances where shoddy maintenance has resulted in utter disaster.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:06:09am

re: #335 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s known for his stinging insults and barbed wit.

Quite a poison quill, I gather.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:12:27am

re: #334 Nyet

A talking porcupine!

Second time I’ve encountered Teddy in the past week.

facebook.com

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Lidane  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:47:38am
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WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:47:54am

re: #338 Romantic Heretic

Second time I’ve encountered Teddy in the past week.

facebook.com

Squeeeeee!

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Lidane  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:57:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 6:59:52am

re: #339 Lidane

Notice anything wrong with Jeb Bush’s Iowa campaign map?

Regions are administrative in nature and necessarily physically congruent?

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Lidane  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:10:38am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Regions are administrative in nature and necessarily physically congruent?

Except for Region 6 which is scattered all over the state.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:24:08am

re: #343 Lidane

Except for Region 6 which is scattered all over the state.

I was so hoping, a la John Oliver, that the map wasn’t even Iowa.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:29:27am

re: #343 Lidane

Except for Region 6 which is scattered all over the state.

Sorry, I meant not necessarily congruent. On the other hand, this is fully consistent with the way they draw voting districts in the GOP…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:45:31am

Well, I just had my first ever group of Trick or Treaters in China come tonight. My friend, who spent some time in the USA, teaches English to primary school students on the weekends. She arranged with her college students to be spooky guides around campus, and some fellow teachers (like me) to be candy distribution stations. The kids and their parents seemed to enjoy the whole affair.

I am behind the Jabbawockeez mask.

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:51:32am

re: #334 Nyet

A talking porcupine!

I had no idea porcupines were so chatty. And, it made more sense than a Sarah Palin rant, though there were similarities in tone.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2015 • 7:55:11am

re: #347 ObserverArt

I had no idea porcupines were so chatty. And, it made more sense than a Sarah Palin rant, though there were similarities in tone.

Porky Pine always got to the point.

Image: Pogo.jpg

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 8:31:19am
RW asshole humor on FB today
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2015 • 8:42:52am

re: #307 Nyet
Scary Gary is at it again.

Now replace Christian with Islam and what you have is what we have today know is the Islamic Republic of Iran-so what Gary North proposes is This United Christian States of America.

This must not be allowed to happen, even if it means another Civil War.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 8:51:16am

re: #350 Eric The Fruit Bat

Scary Gary is at it again.

Now replace Christian with Islam and what you have is what we have today know is the Islamic Republic of Iran-so what Gary North proposes is This United Christian States of America.

This must not be allowed to happen, even if it means another Civil War.

Except that (Religion X) is the One True Religion and (Religion Y) is a false, demonic religion!!!

Recipe for Civil War right there.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:10:50am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

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The worst part of that pic is the obvious racism. The second worst part is that it wasn’t local black people who burned down that Little Caesars down. it was burned by out-of-town “riot tourists” who used the Ferguson protests as an excuse to indulge themselves in destroying property and hurting police officers by fling frozen water bottles at them.

The destruction in Ferguson, MO, was not the product of “black criminality” or even racism, the arson and injuries were the products of young men* who happened to be black willfully deciding to indulge their destructive impulses.

*: I say ‘men’ not ‘people’ here because, while “riot tourism” is a cross-racial phenomenon, those who engage in it are overwhelmingly male (95%+).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:12:05am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Lots of fail there, and another fine example of Right-Wing “humor” just showing what an asshole someone can be.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:15:06am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Rather than fuss over details of that post, let’s fuss over your downding of mr.fusion’s article at the top, if you wish. Too much ‘whining and crying’ used to describe Republicans in your opinion?

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Poligeek  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:26:43am

re: #354 wrenchwench

DF might not be aware of this, given his propensity for plugging his ears and chanting ‘la la la la I can’t hear you’ or his equivalent, “BBL” as soon as things get a tad bit.. heated but, umm, reality has a well known liberal bias.

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:27:27am

re: #354 wrenchwench

Rather than fuss over details of that post, let’s fuss over your downding of mr.fusion’s article at the top, if you wish. Too much ‘whining and crying’ used to describe Republicans in your opinion?

Really, Dark downdinged the topic article?

Dark, good man…what you really need is some downdings for the party. They bring these cry baby type comparisons upon themselves. It sure isn’t the article author.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:28:25am

re: #355 Poligeek

DF might not be aware of this, given his propensity for plugging his ears and chanting ‘la la la la I can’t hear you’ or his equivalent, “BBL” as soon as things get a tad bit.. heated but, umm, reality has a well known liberal bias.

You liberals and your gotcha questions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:31:40am

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:32:33am

re: #357 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

You liberals and your gotcha questions.

Remember when “what newspapers do you read?” was a gotcha question? I thought that was the low point. I was wrong.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:34:16am

re: #359 Stuff Happens

Remember when “what newspapers do you read?” was a gotcha question? I thought that was the low point. I was wrong.

Now “Do you read?” is a gotcha question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:34:58am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

A grain of truth to to what he says: we subject our cops to a great deal of unnecessary stress, expecting them to maintain order when people have easy access to deadly weapons, when a large number of mentally unstable persons are not properly treated or institutionalized and in a society which there are great economic and racial tensions.

It goes a way to explaining a lot of their behavior, but does not justify abuse.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:35:39am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

An appropriate retort: ‘OK, and when you’ve been black for 8 years.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:36:19am

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Now “Do you read?” is a gotcha question.

“Who is your favorite Founding Father?” was a great gotcha question. Just to show that Sarah only mentions them as some sort of totemic figures, like Zombie Reagan.

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:36:27am

re: #360 Blind Frog Belly White

Now “Do you read?” is a gotcha question.

THIS WHOLE GREEN FOOTBALLS SITE IS A GOTCHA SITE!!!

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Stuff Happens  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:36:55am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A grain of truth to to what he says: we subject our cops to a great deal of unnecessary stress, expecting them to maintain order when people have easy access to deadly weapons, when a large number of mentally unstable persons are not properly treated or institutionalized and in a society which there are great economic and racial tensions.

It goes a way to explaining a lot of their behavior, but does not justify abuse.

So in other words I can’t judge war crimes because I’ve never been a soldier, etc. etc. Not how democracy works. .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:38:24am

I want to really scare people tonight, so I think I’ll dress up as a CNBC Moderator and go trick or treating on the GOP side of town.

(if anyone wants to steal this and tweet it, feel free)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:39:40am

re: #365 Stuff Happens

So in other words I can’t judge war crimes because I’ve never been a soldier, etc. etc. Not how democracy works. .

I am just saying that it explains their behavior to an extent but does not justify or rationalize it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:40:12am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well, if you define X as “True Christian” and Y as “False demonic Christian” then yep-you got a civil war right there-Catholicism by many in the Fundamentalist sphere is considered not a true Christian faith. And even within The Fundamentalist sphere you got sub-sects (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists, Dominionists, etc) - so who will be the Standard Bearer on on the “True Christian” side to lead the battle?

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:40:50am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

A classic ad hominem fallacy. You don’t have to be X to have something relevant to say about X.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:41:02am

re: #368 Eric The Fruit Bat

Well, if you define X as “True Christian” and Y as “False demonic Christian” then yep-you got a civil war right there-Catholicism by many in the Fundamentalist sphere is considered not a true Christian faith. And even within The Fundamentalist sphere you got sub-sects (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists, Dominionists, etc) - so who will be the Standard Bearer on on the “True Christian” side to lead the battle?

Which is why our Founding Fathers had the great wisdom and foresight to separate Church and State

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:42:11am

Just saw this on teh twitterz: ‘Weaponized Yoga’

Go on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:42:33am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A grain of truth to to what he says: we subject our cops to a great deal of unnecessary stress, expecting them to maintain order when people have easy access to deadly weapons, when a large number of mentally unstable persons are not properly treated or institutionalized and in a society which there are great economic and racial tensions.

It goes a way to explaining a lot of their behavior, but does not justify abuse.

The problem is not just the abuse. It’s the ‘circle the wagons’, ‘You can’t judge unless you’ve been a cop’, ‘Sure it’s inexcusable, but…’ attitude.

We give them guns and the authority to deal out violence and death against our own citizens in our name. There are few responsibilities as great as that. And now we’re finding that a significant number of them have been abusing that authority, and that if it weren’t for the omnipresence of cameras, we’d have shaken our heads sadly and talked about another person who foolishly tried to fight when they should have complied.

Respect for police is not unconditional. If the police want to keep what is left, and rebuild where it’s gone, they need to burn the bad cops. Openly, proactively, and without excuse. They need to be their own harshest critic. The ‘You can’t judge me’ attitude will totally fuck that up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:43:48am

re: #371 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Just saw this on teh twitterz: ‘Weaponized Yoga’

Go on.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:44:19am

And here’s a clue: Unlike NBC Nightly News and Meet The Press, CNBC and ALL of FOX News channels are cable properties; they do not do OTA broadcasting-so right there, the RNC loses its argument.

What if those questions had come from FOX Business reporters?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:44:29am

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem is not just the abuse. It’s the ‘circle the wagons’, ‘You can’t judge unless you’ve been a cop’, ‘Sure it’s inexcusable, but…’ attitude.

It goes beyond that: if you dare to criticize the police and their methods, you are seen as someone who undermines order and condones cop killers.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:45:14am

re: #368 Eric The Fruit Bat

Well, if you define X as “True Christian” and Y as “False demonic Christian” then yep-you got a civil war right there-Catholicism by many in the Fundamentalist sphere is considered not a true Christian faith. And even within The Fundamentalist sphere you got sub-sects (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists, Dominionists, etc) - so who will be the Standard Bearer on on the “True Christian” side to lead the battle?

What you get is the incredibly bloody history of Europe, with wars driven by sectarian conflict and horrific internal audits of religious purity.

The Founders weren’t fucking around when they set up separation of church and state. What happened in Europe only a few generations before would have been in their minds, combined with the attempt of various colonies to transport that mess to the New World.

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sagehen  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:46:48am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

*: I say ‘men’ not ‘people’ here because, while “riot tourism” is a cross-racial phenomenon, those who engage in it are overwhelmingly male (95%+).

True fact: the single greatest factor predicting the rate of violence in any society (everywhere. worldwide, and throughout history.) is what percentage of the population is unmarried males 16-30…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:48:42am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It goes beyond that: if you dare to criticize the police and their methods, you are seen as someone who undermines order and condones cop killers.

It’s getting harder to see it as anything other than a corrupt system that needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:49:21am

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s getting harder to see it as anything other than a corrupt system that needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

Yes, it goes way beyond ” a few bad apples”…

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sagehen  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:51:10am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, it goes way beyond ” a few bad apples”…

Funny how many people forget the rest of that adage.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:52:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:53:05am

re: #380 sagehen

Funny how many people forget the rest of that adage.

the point is that removing them will not fix a system that is set up to allow the prosecuting attorneys to cooperate with the police to obtain indictments and convictions, it is not at all designed for the cases in which the policemen are under suspicion.

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:53:39am

Now here is some interesting crying about the debate. Came across this looking at Kascih news in a Google search, because I figured Johnny would have a different take on the most recent GOP debate. Sure enough…but the RedState folks don’t like it.

I normally wouldn’t read RedState or link them, but the fact it was about Kasich liking the debate made me want to check it out.

donotlink.com

Some of the meat in the article…so you don’t even need the link, this get the point across.

Reporter: What did you think about the mainstream media’s questions tonight? What did you think about the moderators?

Kasich: I thought they did a good job. I’m very pleased with, I had time to speak and talk about the fantasy land and also be able to talk about my plans and my programs, the things that I know we can do together to get the budget balanced and create jobs and fix this country. So I’m very appreciative of how they did their job tonight. It wasn’t a circus like we’ve had in the past. It was well done, well controlled, a lot of good questions, and hopefully this will be what we’ll see in the future.

For all that people criticize Jeb Bush, Kasich is far and away the candidate in this field who is just utterly clueless about the Republican electorate as a whole. Worse, to the extent that Kasich does understand Republicans, he dislikes them.

In fact, part of the structural problem that made the debate a “crap sandwich” to begin with is that the CNBC moderators allowed Kasich - who was in last place among those on stage - the first question and gave him the opportunity to filibuster at length about how stupid Republican voters (and the other Republican candidates were). While the rest of America sat horrified at the ridiculous irrelevant gotcha questions that were clearly designed to make all Republicans look bad and crazy, Kasich thought to himself, “this is my kind of debate! Finally America is going to get to see how crazy all these Republicans are!”

Here is de facto evidence of CNBC’s liberal bias: John Kasich, who is in dead last and whose sole purpose on stage was to attack Republicans, got more speaking time than Donald Trump or Ben Carson. Trump and Carson each have more than ten times the support that Kasich has, and there’s nothing about Kasich that makes him especially compelling either as a story or as a television draw. He’s a grumpy old white dude who basically is Bob Dole without the personality and charm. As much as I’m not a personal fan of either Trump or Carson, there’s no justifiable reason that Kasich should have gotten more air time than either and the fact that he did is pretty conclusive proof of what CNBC is up to.

Kasich hopes there will be more debates like the CNBC debate. Per Reince Priebus, those aren’t going to happen on the Republican side, so maybe Kasich can find another party - one he hates less - to debate for.

Now that is some crying. Johnny Kasich isn’t Republican enough for RedState.

HaHaHaHaHaHa. As an Ohioan, that is damn funny. But it is funny to see Kasich shakin’ it up. He can be a dick…but this time his dickishness is pissing off the GOP.

They eat their own.

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Belafon  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:54:02am

re: #369 Nyet

A classic ad hominem fallacy. You don’t have to be X to have something relevant to say about X.

Until you’ve murdered at least three people, you can’t judge a killer.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:54:13am

re: #380 sagehen

Funny how many people forget the rest of that adage.

The Jackson 5 version springs to mind.

One Bad Apple

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 9:58:14am

re: #385 wrenchwench

The Jackson 5 version springs to mind.

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Oops:

MusicLover Pearson 5 months ago
SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DAMN STUPID.This song was not recorded by the JACKSON 5 it was recorded by the OSMOND Brothers The J5 is a black family the Osmond Brothers are a white family.One Bad Apple was sung by Donny and Jay Osmond not Michael and Jermaine Jackson.Also for the people who said it was written by a Jackson sorry i have bad news for you it was written by George Jackson no relation to the JACKSON FAMILY.SMH

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:00:14am

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s getting harder to see it as anything other than a corrupt system that needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

The problem is there is no one to tear it down. There are no checks on police power.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:00:50am

re: #386 wrenchwench

Oops:

Stop picking on the poor white people, you racist! Haven’t they suffered enough??

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:01:47am

re: #386 wrenchwench

SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DAMN STUPID.This song was not recorded by the JACKSON 5 it was recorded by the OSMOND Brothers The J5 is a black family the Osmond Brothers are a white family.

It was performed by a white family band trying its damndest to sound like the Jackson 5…

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:02:10am

re: #384 Belafon

Until you’ve murdered at least three people, you can’t judge a killer.

Let’s get straight to the point: you can’t judge Hitler until you’re Hitler!

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blueraven  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:03:52am

re: #390 Nyet

Let’s get straight to the point: you can’t judge Hitler until you’re Hitler!

Maybe even worse for republicans…you cant judge Obama unless you have been the first black POTUS.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:04:31am

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Stop picking on the poor white people, you racist! Haven’t they suffered enough??

I loved that one song of theirs, but couldn’t stand the Osmonds, and Donny Osmond… ewww. All my friends had posters of him & huge crushes on him and it seemed like he was on the cover of every Tiger Beat magazine… Gawd, there’s a blast from the past—I wonder if TB still exists.

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:04:59am

re: #390 Nyet

Let’s get straight to the point: you can’t judge Hitler until you’re Hitler!

Carrying that further…if you are Hitler, you would no longer be able to judge.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:05:45am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It was performed by a white family band trying its damndest to sound like the Jackson 5…

Exactly. That’s why I liked that song so much, because they sounded like the Jackson 5.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:09:02am

re: #391 blueraven

Maybe even worse for republicans…you cant judge Obama unless you have been the first black POTUS.

THIS. And BFBW’s cop friend should then agree that he can’t judge black teens unless he’s been one… or criminals… or… ad infinitum…

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:11:46am

Can’t judge ISIS unless you’ve been a Muslim jihadi.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:12:34am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

Trying to be nice here but had that been a friend of mine on my FB, I would have replied with:

And we can have that conversation when you haven’t been a dick for (his age) years.

———-

Sorry. But that kind of attitude tweaks me in all the wrong ways.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:14:34am

Logged out: sailfrog

sailfrog

Registered since: Oct 24, 2013 at 10:05 pm
No. of comments posted: 0
No. of Pages posted: 0

Come back, unhatched one!

That’s a thick shell. Two years (and a week.) I wonder whether it is a regular visitor.

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Snarknado!  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:14:35am

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is there is no one to tear it down. There are no checks on police power.

We hire them, we pay them. If and when a sufficient number of people decides that reforms are needed, they will happen.

(Unless you’re imagining a real police war against the population, of course. In that case, all bets are off.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:15:49am

re: #399 Snarknado!

We hire them, we pay them. If and when a sufficient number of people decides that reforms are needed, they will happen.

(Unless you’re imagining a real police war against the population, of course. In that case, all bets are off.)

We saw that in Arizona: people want Law and order writ big, but they want Low Taxes write even bigger.

Sheriff Joe was the logical outcome of that…

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:15:52am

Woah, just saw the plane crash news.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:17:17am

Ouch! That will leave a mark…

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Snarknado!  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:17:19am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

My cop friend on FB (see above from last night) just responded with ‘we can have this conversation when you’ve been a cop for 8 years’.

Wrong answer.

In other words, when you tell him that cops need to stop circling the wagons, he responds by circling the wagons. As you said, wrong answer.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:18:17am

I was a teenage … ninja turtle!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:18:37am

re: #403 Snarknado!

In other words, when you tell him that cops need to stop circling the wagons, he responds by circling the wagons. As you said, wrong answer.

Pretty much.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:18:54am

re: #400 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We saw that in Arizona: people want Law and order writ big, but they want Low Taxes write even bigger.

Sheriff Joe was the logical outcome of that…

And he’s ending up costing them a lot of court-ordered money…

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:18:55am

Okay, I love you guys & everything, but I need to find something more productive to do with my Saturday afternoon.

re: #402 Dave In Austin

Ouch! That will leave a mark…

And that right there is a great note to leave on! LOL

Later, lizards.

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blueraven  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:19:30am

Of course it is always best to at least imagine “walking a mile in the shoes” of someone you want to judge. Empathy is a good thing. But we all make judgments every day.

I think most people understand that the police have a difficult job. They are, for the most part, overworked and under-payed, just like teachers. Yet for some reason RWers never give teachers a break.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:19:49am

re: #406 wrenchwench

And he’s ending up costing them a lot of court-ordered money…

again proving that you get what you pay for…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:20:26am

re: #408 blueraven

Of course it is always best to at least imagine “walking a mile in the shoes” of someone you want to judge. Empathy is a good thing. But we all make judgments every day.

I think most people understand that the police have a difficult job. They are, for the most part, overworked and under-payed, just like teachers. Yet for some reason RWers never give teachers a break.

except when the call in a policeman to wrestle a student to the floor for disrupting class

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:20:36am

re: #409 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

again proving that you get what you pay for…

Also proving that racists are generally stupid.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:21:52am

re: #407 CuriousLurker

Okay, I love you guys & everything, but I need to find something more productive to do with my Saturday afternoon.

And that right there is a great note to leave on! LOL

Later, lizards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:21:59am

re: #411 wrenchwench

Also proving that racists are generally stupid.

shit costs money. pay a reasonable amount upfront or you wind up facing much bigger costs down the line.

same goes for things like environmental or workplace protection.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:22:08am

To make a judgment on X you don’t have to be X, but you sure as heck must have your facts straight and your logical circuits intact.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:22:41am

re: #414 Nyet

To make a judgment on X you don’t have to be X, but you sure as heck must have your facts straight and your logical circuits intact.

and your orbital socket intact!!!

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:22:41am

re: #401 Stanley Sea Toujours

Woah, just saw the plane crash news.

The one in Egypt?

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:22:45am

re: #411 wrenchwench

Also proving that racists are generally stupid.

“We’ll have this talk when you’ve been a racist for 8 years!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:26:18am

re: #417 Nyet

“We’ll have this talk when you’ve been a racist for 8 years!”

If you’re gonna call me a racist just for thinking that blacks are lazy and intellectually inferior, then yeah, I’m a racist!!!

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:26:32am

Back later…hope to have a Halloween photoshop to celebrate the day and the political times.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:29:33am

re: #408 blueraven

Of course it is always best to at least imagine “walking a mile in the shoes” of someone you want to judge. Empathy is a good thing. But we all make judgments every day.

I think most people understand that the police have a difficult job. They are, for the most part, overworked and under-payed, just like teachers. Yet for some reason RWers never give teachers a break.

The difference is simple: Teacher’s unions always endorse and provide activists for the Democrats, but police unions can go either way and will endorse and work with Republicans.

It’s rare for committed partisans to give the ‘other side’ a break. Those planning to reply to this post saying I’m putting out an MBF should include a case where they gave a notable break to a conservative Republican.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:30:13am

Interestingly enough, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the crash. Not that anyone reasonable is buying it.

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Jay C  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:31:44am

re: #383 ObserverArt

One for the “Problems with today’s Republican Party in a nutshell” file:

For all that people criticize Jeb Bush, Kasich is far and away the candidate in this field who is just utterly clueless about the Republican electorate as a whole. Worse, to the extent that Kasich does understand Republicans, he dislikes them.

OK, then… even leaving aside the notion that John Freakin’ Kasich is some sort of fringe RINO… (smh)

One has to wonder exactly who Leon Wolf thinks the “Republican electorate as a whole” actually is. I was originally going to frame this question in snarky form as “does he think ‘real Republican’ equates only to ‘RedState comment section’”, but on reflection I realized that the latter formulation was probably true.
If there wasn’t a nontrivial possibility that one of these ideologue mediocrities might actually get elected President it would be amusing. But not.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:33:15am

re: #421 Nyet

Interestingly enough, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the crash. Not that anyone reasonable is buying it.

My guess is they’re trying to put Russia “On Tilt”. They want to make Putin and Russians in general angry in the hopes that Russia will lash out and make a mistake in doing so.

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sagehen  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:33:41am

re: #422 Jay C

One has to wonder exactly who Leon Wolf thinks the “Republican electorate as a whole” actually is.

Easy question:

They’re people who go 26% each for Trump and Carson, and single digits for anyone who’s ever been a Senator or Governor.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:33:54am

re: #402 Dave In Austin

Haha

Oh and:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:37:03am

re: #424 sagehen

Easy question:

They’re people who go 26% each for Trump and Carson, and single digits for anyone who’s ever been a Senator or Governor.

The GOP thought it could harness the incoherent rage of people who hate government and anyone who is part of it (forgetting the of the people and by the people part) and they are getting their well deserved payback.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:39:26am

re: #426 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP thought it could harness the incoherent rage of people who hate government and anyone who is part of it (forgetting the of the people and by the people part) and they are getting their well deserved payback.

The bill on their Faustian deal has come due and now they watch as the soul of the party gets ripped apart by the very loonies they thought they could control.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:41:07am

re: #421 Nyet

Interestingly enough, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the crash. Not that anyone reasonable is buying it.

LOL—did I call it or what?

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Tigger2  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:41:53am
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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:43:55am

I must admit now that I was wrong all those years ago. I once predicted, rather confidently, that the GOP leadership would club the Tea Partiers into line and the whole “movement” would die out within half a decade. I had no idea just how much of a total mockery that Citizens United would make of our democracy and reduce the leadership from the all-mighty masters into powerless halfwits who are watching their party get savaged by the forces they sought to unleash with that decision.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:45:06am

re: #430 Targetpractice

I must admit now that I was wrong all those years ago. I once predicted, rather confidently, that the GOP leadership would club the Tea Partiers into line and the whole “movement” would die out within half a decade. I had no idea just how much of a total mockery that Citizens United would make of our democracy and reduce the leadership from the all-mighty masters into powerless halfwits who are watching their party get savaged by the forces they sought to unleash with that decision.

the sad part of it is that the TP itself is falling out of favor with the rest of America, but its power over the GOP remains unbroken

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Jay C  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:45:06am

re: #402 Dave In Austin

Ouch! That will leave a mark…

I doubt it: being slapped down by a Federal judge over PP is a great opportunity* for a GOP Governor/candidate. He can fulminate and rant against “liberal judges”, “judicial activism”, “liberal bias”, “overweening Federal government”, “states’ rights”, etc. ad nauseam; swear (loudly and publicly) to continue the Righteous Fight against the EEEEEVIL Planned Parenthood, and exploit the opportunity to try to gin up more “popular” outrage to get those endorsements and donations flowing in. Win-win (especially as PP will still get funding).

* or should be, given a decent candidate with a competent organization behind him. But then, this IS Piyush The Buffoon, so probably not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:46:02am

The problem is the GOP and their base are comprised primarily of alpha male types who are all jockeying for power and money at the expense of everything else. It’s the natural conclusion to drawing that many people of that personality so close together.

It’s a group that is simply incapable of ever getting their shit together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:46:58am

re: #433 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is the GOP and their base are comprised primarily of alpha male types who are all jockeying for power and money at the expense of everything else. It’s the natural conclusion to drawing that many people of that personality so close together.

It’s a group that is simply incapable of ever getting their shit together.

They put a big premium on ideological purity, and that rules out a basic principle of politics, namely compromise and cooperation.

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:52:53am

Because it’s Halloween:

Guy de Maupassant, The Horla, a story that inspired Lovecraft.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 31, 2015 • 10:59:05am

re: #433 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel sorry for you if you perceive those idiots as “alpha male types”. You’ve been fooled.

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blueraven  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:00:36am

re: #420 Dark_Falcon

The difference is simple: Teacher’s unions always endorse and provide activists for the Democrats, but police unions can go either way and will endorse and work with Republicans.

It’s rare for committed partisans to give the ‘other side’ a break. Those planning to reply to this post saying I’m putting out an MBF should include a case where they gave a notable break to a conservative Republican.

And why in the hell would a teachers union endorse a republican? It goes both ways you know. When has a conservative republican ever given a notable break to teachers?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:07:00am

re: #437 blueraven

And why in the hell would a teachers union endorse a republican? It goes both ways you know. When has a conservative republican ever given a notable break to teachers?

The problem is, frankly, that teaching is a liberal undertaking. Working years to get credentialed, then work for the state, paid less than other professions but expected to be as dedicated. Service to society is not a Conservative value. That’s why teachers don’t tend to be Republicans - because Republicans don’t tend to be teachers.

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stpaulbear  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:07:05am

re: #425 GlutenFreeJesus

“Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is catching fire on the trail here in the Hawk Eye state”

And no one even cares enough to piss on him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:07:59am

re: #439 stpaulbear

And no one even cares enough to piss on him.

Ouch. Very true. He couldn’t even get Trump to react to his poking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:08:36am

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem is, frankly, that teaching is a liberal undertaking.

It has very little to do with the Free Market that the GOP idolizes above all else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:12:01am

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It has very little to do with the Free Market that the GOP idolizes above all else.

And if you view career advancement and monetary gain as the proof of your value as a person, a career that pays poorly and has very little chance for promotion will be distinctly unappealing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:12:35am

I stand by what I’ve said all along. Assad is an asshole. But he’s an asshole we know and can deal with. He’s secular and won’t put up with any jihadist shit. We need to stay out (unfortunately, that’s not happening) and hope for the best. While we can’t support Assad, we shouldn’t be working to overthrow him either. You’d think we would have learned our lesson in Iraq…

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stpaulbear  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:13:15am

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It has very little to do with the Free Market that the GOP idolizes above all else.

And the GOP is doing all they can to turn education into a private income source, screw the kids and teachers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:16:06am

re: #444 stpaulbear

And the GOP is doing all they can to turn education into a private income source, screw the kids and teachers.

Because they are convinced that the Free market can do everything better.

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blueraven  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:16:28am

Trump just said (on CNN) that if he were POTUS he would end SuperPacs. I don’t think that will go over very well in this Republican party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:18:24am

re: #446 blueraven

Trump just said (on CNN) that if he were POTUS he would end SuperPacs. I don’t think that will go over very well in this Republican party.

Trump says what he thinks his target audience wants to hear. It has little bearing on what is going to happen in real life.

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stpaulbear  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:18:59am

re: #445 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are convinced that the Free market can do everything better.

They don’t even care if they can do it better. They just want to suck all of the potential profit out of it. The GOP is doing this for their business friends.

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blueraven  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:21:18am

re: #447 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trump says what he thinks his target audience wants to hear. It has little bearing on what is going to happen in real life.

Oh I think he genuinely hates Super PACs. It allows other candidates to have access to as much money as he does, therefore forcing him to spend more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:23:11am

re: #448 stpaulbear

They don’t even care if they can do it better. They just want to suck all of the potential profit out of it. The GOP is doing this for their business friends.

No, I disagree. The Rank and Vile Republican tends to believe that the Private Sector does everything better. But it’s a BELIEF, an article of faith, that is not subject to empirical verification. It just IS TRUE.

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stpaulbear  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:29:12am

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

No, I disagree. The Rank and Vile Republican tends to believe that the Private Sector does everything better. But it’s a BELIEF, an article of faith, that is not subject to empirical verification. It just IS TRUE.

I guess I believe that when conservatives say they can do it better it means that they can do it cheaper. Cheaper is always better.

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wrenchwench  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:31:33am

Grammar Nazi Sharia enforcer:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:35:59am

re: #449 blueraven

Oh I think he genuinely hates Super PACs. It allows other candidates to have access to as much money as he does, therefore forcing him to spend more.

Yes, but it does not mean that anything is going to happen in the world outside of GOP Campaignland…

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:41:25am
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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:42:04am

Also:

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Timothy Watson  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:43:26am

re: #452 wrenchwench

Grammar Nazi Sharia enforcer:

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Is that guy any relation to Stannis of the House Baratheon?

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Nyet  Oct 31, 2015 • 11:47:21am

re: #455 Nyet

OK, I shouldn’t have followed the white rabbit.

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Dark_Falcon  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:05:27pm

re: #457 Nyet

OK, I shouldn’t have followed the white rabbit.

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And if Al-Jazeera wants to be seen as a legitimate news network they need to fire that guy posthaste.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:13:57pm

re: #458 Dark_Falcon

And if Al-Jazeera wants to be seen as a legitimate news network they need to fire that guy posthaste.

Yeah. These are people we are talking about here that were just going about their daily lives. Whatever precipitated the crash, innocent people died.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 31, 2015 • 12:28:51pm

re: #436 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I feel sorry for you if you perceive those idiots as “alpha male types”. You’ve been fooled.

Ok, ok, “wannabe alpha male types” then. :P

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Jay in Oregon  Nov 1, 2015 • 8:45:45am

To keep things fair, they’ll insist on GOP-friendly moderators for the Democratic debates as well…


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