Carson: Archeologists Are Wrong — Biblical Joseph Built The Pyramids To Store Grain

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain”
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Have you ever thought to yourself, “hey, I’ve got my own theory about the pyramids in Egypt.” If you have, then your theory more than likely revolved around the Old Testament’s Joseph building the pyramids to store grain, right? I mean…how else would they store all that grain — and with all that grain to store, the structures that were used would have to be ginormous and would have to still be around right? And the only structures that are still around are the pyramids….I mean right? RIGHT?!?!

Of course you haven’t. You’re not an insane person. But you know who not only had that thought pop into his mind, but believes it, states it in public on video, and claims that all the archeologists are wrong about the Pyramids being tombs for the pharaohs?

Ladies and gentleman, your Republican frontrunner, Ben Carson:

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson said. “Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

In the Old Testament, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, is sold into slavery in Egypt by his jealous brothers. He eventually rose to become a top aide to the Egyptian pharaoh, advising him of a dream vision he had of coming years of famine in the ancient kingdom. Joseph’s sage advice of the coming famine (and directions to store gain) helped the Egyptians survive the famine.

Buzzfeed has uncovered the video and has it at this link.

PS: We all know it was really aliens anyway, right?

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454 comments
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nines09  Nov 4, 2015 • 5:37:49pm

Because everybody knows you can throw up a structure like the Pyramids overnight. Need storage? See Ramses at “Ramses Rooms.” All purpose storage facilities built on site and on time. Yep. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense.Perfect Sense

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Charles Johnson  Nov 4, 2015 • 6:11:22pm

Here’s the full video of this speech - there’s a LOT more craziness in here. Ben Carson has absolute contempt for science.

The Andrews Experience- Dr. Ben Carson 1998 Graduation key note speaker

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Velvet Elvis  Nov 4, 2015 • 6:12:56pm
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jaunte  Nov 4, 2015 • 6:57:26pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Ben Carson on theorizing about the origins of the universe, at approximately 7:00 to 7:22…
“God has already told us what happened, so we don’t have to come up with fanciful theories about what happened, so we can take the place of God.”

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 4, 2015 • 7:26:03pm

There might be some level of credibility to Carson’s claims if said granaries - not to mention entire towns hadn’t already been unearthed by archaeologists a LONG time ago:

civilization.org.uk

Barry Kemp has calculated that to fill all the granaries would have taken 226,328 sacks of grain, which would have been enough to feed 3,400 families for a year, and assuming an average sized family, this would mean 17,000 to 20,000 people.

not intended for use as a royal burial chamber
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jhncsy  Nov 4, 2015 • 7:26:54pm

But there’s only like one tiny frickin room in the whole damn pyramid! There’s no place to store anything!

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bratwurst  Nov 4, 2015 • 7:27:55pm
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bratwurst  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:01:11pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:26:56pm

re: #1 nines09

Because everybody knows you can throw up a structure like the Pyramids overnight. Need storage? See Ramses at “Ramses Rooms.” All purpose storage facilities built on site and on time. Yep. Uh huh. Makes perfect sense.[Embedded content]

They were prefabbed.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:29:31pm

You store the grains. You gets the mice. The Feline Overlords bail you out.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:31:25pm

New in pages:

JAG Jesus and Guns.

The “gun-churches” I’ve mentioned recently actually do exist. This one is a ministry at a church in Colorado Springs. (And where else have we heard about the Springs and guns lately?). A gun church in Lubbock Texas goes these guys one better, though: The Lubbock church has its own gun range rather than having to rely on nearby commercial facilities.

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darthstar  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:32:12pm

Has anybody seen my grain? I left it in a pyramid.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:32:38pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Here’s the full video of this speech - there’s a LOT more craziness in here. Ben Carson has absolute contempt for science.

[Embedded content]

Video

1998. 17 years ago, folks.

I just clicked on the video and got just past the opening prayer and stopped so I could comment.

Dr. Ben Carson is not a panderer when it comes to Christian religiosity. He’s a true believer right down to his bones. It’s why he’s endearing to Christian conservatives today. It’s not an act.

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ObserverArt  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:33:43pm

re: #10 Feline Fearless Leader

You store the grains. You gets the mice. The Feline Overlords bail you out.

Or the Pied Piper that plays the tune the rats love and follow right outta town.

You know that story fits Ben and the people that follow him.

With that…good evening Lizard types.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:35:15pm

GAH! This video!

This man is running for president and is polling high among the base Republicans.

Oy!

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Unabogie  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:35:40pm

It never occurs to these people to pick up a freaking book.

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retired cynic  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:37:35pm

re: #16 Unabogie

Oh, they know better than that!

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:41:12pm

And yes, #BenCarsonFacts is becoming a thing on Twitter

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retired cynic  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:43:22pm

re: #18 Kragar

Go you.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:44:40pm

re: #9 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

They were prefabbed.

I’m waiting for someone to find a video clip of Carson claiming that the pyramids were easily constructed because God reduced the gravity around them…

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:44:55pm

I’ve been inside the Great Pyramid of Khufu. There isn’t enough space in there to stash the Happy Meals for a good sized kindergarten class let alone the food supply for an entire country.

Besides that, the Pyramids were already ancient monuments in Joseph’s time.
No reputable Bible scholar puts the story of Joseph within a thousand years of the construction of the Pyramids. Most place it a good deal longer after.

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retired cynic  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:47:29pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Naw, that’s just God fooling around with Time for the lulz.

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Skandal  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:47:48pm
The ancient Egyptians built the pyramids to inspire awe, but could they have known that they would also inspire idiocy? For millennia, individuals have gazed upon these edifices, seeing them not as they are, but as projections of their own beliefs.

10 Bizarre Theories About The Pyramids That DON’T Involve Aliens

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vgranucci  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:49:13pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Besides that, the Pyramids were already ancient monuments in Joseph’s time. No reputable Bible scholar puts the story of Joseph within a thousand years of the construction of the Pyramids. Most place it a good deal longer after.

When you believe the universe is only 6000 years old, Joseph and the pyramids had to be contemporaneous.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:49:41pm
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Jay C  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:53:14pm

re: #12 darthstar

Has anybody seen my grain? I left it in a pyramid.

Stays fresher that way: and your razor blades will stay sharper, too!

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FourEyeFreckleFace  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:54:28pm

My own mother works for the Carson campaign.
It makes my heart hurt. I don’t understand how this happened.

*longest sigh ever*

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Joe Bacon  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:55:34pm

re: #27 FourEyeFreckleFace

My own mother works for the Carson campaign.
It makes my heart hurt. I don’t understand how this happened.

*longest sigh ever*

You are not alone. I know how it feels!

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retired cynic  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:55:41pm

re: #27 FourEyeFreckleFace

That’s a heavy load to bear.

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KGxvi  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:56:14pm

Even though we’ve found zero evidence of advanced technology (no plastics, no steal, etc) the idea that aliens built the pyramids is still more believable than Carson’s theory.

We joked earlier about Carson having a show on the History Channel… But the more I think about it, the more entertaining it might be. Dr. Carson, who built Stonehedge and why?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:56:58pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve been inside the Great Pyramid of Khufu. There isn’t enough space in there to stash the Happy Meals for a good sized kindergarten class let alone the food supply for an entire country.

Besides that, the Pyramids were already ancient monuments in Joseph’s time.
No reputable Bible scholar puts the story of Joseph within a thousand years of the construction of the Pyramids. Most place it a good deal longer after.

We here in reality know this, but there’s a big swath of people who believe “The Bible” and nothing else. There’s no convincing someone who reads just one book.

This is what always blows my mind about people around here (Tejas) starting a sentence with “In Bible times…” Which always makes me want to ask, “So which part of the five thousand years or so are you referring to?” Some of those stories were already two thousand years old when Jesus was making furniture for a living.

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Kragar  Nov 4, 2015 • 8:59:16pm

re: #27 FourEyeFreckleFace

My own mother works for the Carson campaign.
It makes my heart hurt. I don’t understand how this happened.

*longest sigh ever*

I’ve got a co-worker who is a Carson fan.

“He’s so well spoken!”

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:01:29pm

Can we get that “Aliens Guy” shot with a caption “Hey, ‘Aliens’ is more plausible than Ben Carson’s theory.”

/What a Maroon.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:03:12pm

I confess that when I was a teenager I was taken by Zechariah Sitchin’s books and I thought the idea of aliens helping build our big old rocky stuff was pretty awesome. I grew out of it eventually when I came to terms with nasty, discomforting things like “evidence”. I’m ashamed it took five or six years to un-learn that particular fantasy. :P

It’s easy to believe stupid shit if nobody educates you different. Every ignorant person in this country is a failure to educate. Somewhere, sometime, they were a child with questions, and somebody didn’t give them good answers.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:06:04pm

Advanced civilizations never built monuments to vanity./

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TedStriker  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:08:32pm

re: #32 Kragar

I’ve got a co-worker who is a Carson fan.

“He’s so well spoken!”

So was Ted Kaczynski (aka the Unabomber), IIRC.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:11:59pm

No, Ben.
They are landing platforms for alien vessels.
Saw it in a movie.

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Mattand  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:23:46pm

My understanding is that Paper Willy is Carson’s main source for the Grain Silo Theory.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:36:28pm

re: #3 Velvet Elvis

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Joe Bacon  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:37:20pm

What bothers me about Carson is that I remember how everyone goofed on Ronald Reagan in 1979.

We know how that turned out in 1980.

And I’m truly scared after seeing what happened in Kentucky and Texas on Tuesday!

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:39:35pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:42:41pm

Facts always get in the way of a great story.

27th century BC: Egyptians build the Pyramids at Giza, for the Pharaoh’s afterlife

19th Century BC: Hyksos people settle in Egypt; later expelled by Ahmose I ca. 1550 BC

8th - 5th Century BC: development of the Joseph narrative within Book of Genesis, perhaps based on the history of the Hyksos. en.wikipedia.org

Plus, no one builds ginormous stone granaries with tiny passageways and rooms.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:53:18pm

As theories for the pyramids go, this one is snoozetastic.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:53:29pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 4, 2015 • 9:53:49pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 4, 2015 • 10:33:52pm

re: #8 bratwurst

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 10:42:43pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

So, are you saying you’re a Jay-Oh-Oh?!?

/

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 4, 2015 • 10:49:33pm

You know what really get’s me? Does Carson even realize we can read hieroglyphics? We don’t have to guess what the pyramids were for. Egyptians wrote that shit down.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:00:22pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

You know what really get’s me? Does Carson even realize we can read hieroglyphics? We don’t have to guess what the pyramids were for. Egyptians wrote that shit down.

He thinks the Illuminati had the Rosetta Stone made to order as part of a long-term plan to create and impose Eurosocialism.

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teleskiguy  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:03:34pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

He thinks the Illuminati had the Rosetta Stone made to order as part of a long-term plan to create and impose Eurosocialism.

This, coming from you Dark_Falcon, I have hope!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:07:32pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

What happened with that certified letter, dark?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:42:34pm

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What happened with that certified letter, dark?

It concerned some legal wrangling between the county and my condo board. It ended up not involving me personally. So I was worried about nothing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:43:22pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

It concerned some legal wrangling between the county and my condo board. It ended up not involving me personally. So I was worried about nothing.

Glad to hear it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 4, 2015 • 11:50:42pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Ditto.

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Mentis Fugit  Nov 5, 2015 • 12:05:15am

Alan Parsons Project - Pyramania

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 12:25:05am

re: #40 Joe Bacon

What bothers me about Carson is that I remember how everyone goofed on Ronald Reagan in 1979.

We know how that turned out in 1980.

And I’m truly scared after seeing what happened in Kentucky and Texas on Tuesday!

Reagan at least had held some sort of elected office and had some idea of how politics work.

But it really says a lot about modern politics that DT and BC are considered “serious” candidates.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 5, 2015 • 12:39:48am

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

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Just like the real pyramids!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 12:40:20am

Well, some people won’t be pleased at this news.

George Bush Sr: ‘iron-ass’ Cheney and ‘arrogant’ Rumsfeld damaged America

Former US president George HW Bush has hit out at Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, two of the most senior figures in his son’s administration, labelling them too “hardline” and “arrogant” in their handling of the 11 September attacks.

A new biography of the 41st president - Destiny and Power: The American Odyssey Of George Herbert Walker Bush - reveals that Bush Sr held Cheney and Rumsfeld responsible for the hawkish stance that “hurt” his son’s administration, Fox News reported on Wednesday.

theguardian.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 2:39:34am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, some people won’t be pleased at this news.

theguardian.com

GWB has turned out to be quite the mensch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 2:40:34am

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

It concerned some legal wrangling between the county and my condo board. It ended up not involving me personally. So I was worried about nothing.

I always panic when I see a delivery note for a certified letter in my mailbox…but not without good reason.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 2:54:16am

UpChuck has lost one of his legal battles. His motion to quash the Planned Parenthood videos subpoena was denied by the judge. He has to give a deposition about the Planned Parenthood videos in two weeks — the judge granted him some extra time.

BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: Judge requires Chuck Johnson to give deposition during week of Nov. 16 #PlannedParenthood

Blogger Award Winning JournalistTM Chuck C. Johnson must give a deposition about the purloined Planned Parenthood videos, whether he wants to or not, a federal judge ruled yesterday.

The judge denied Johnson’s motion to quash a subpoena requiring him to submit all information relating to his acquisition of the videos, but extended the deadline to comply from tomorrow to the week of Nov. 16. Johnson’s attorney earlier this week moved to quash the subpoena, asserting Johnson was given insufficient time to collect materials demanded, materials Johnson has claimed do not exist.

Meuser moved for a hearing Dec. 9, but the judge vacated that hearing.

More at GotNwes.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:04:48am

Here is the judge’s order.

Scribd Document

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:05:07am

re: #61 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

UpChuck has lost one of his legal battles. His motion to quash the Planned Parenthood videos subpoena was denied by the judge. He has to give a deposition about the Planned Parenthood videos in two weeks — the judge granted him some extra time.

More at GotNwes.com

If you can’t quash, then squat!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:12:24am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If you can’t quash, then squat!!!

We’ll see what he does in two weeks. The judge has taken away his excuse for not making the Friday deadline.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:20:43am

re: #43 Not a Sparkly Vampire

As theories for the pyramids go, this one is snoozetastic.

It’s his…pyramid scheme.

ba-da-boom!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:26:42am

re: #65 Barefoot Grin

It’s his…pyramid scheme.

ba-da-boom!

The Pharoah moans at the very scent of it…

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:43:02am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

GWB has turned out to be quite the mensch.

I never voted for him but I did respect someone who went from the Ivy League to being a combat pilot for the Navy. More honorable than many…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 3:48:46am

re: #67 William Lewis

I never voted for him but I did respect someone who went from the Ivy League to being a combat pilot for the Navy. More honorable than many…

He was no better or worse than any other politician in his day, but since retiring, he has shown a surprising degree of candor and integrity.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:10:08am

re: #67 William Lewis

I never voted for him but I did respect someone who went from the Ivy League to being a combat pilot for the Navy. More honorable than many…

Of all the video clips of President Bush, this is the one that might matter most these days:
USS Finback Submarine Rescue — Sept. 2, 1944
Fished out of the sea near an island whose Japanese commander was subsequently hanged for eating PoWs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:11:19am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

Of all the video clips of President Bush, this is the one that might matter most these days:
[Embedded content]

Fished out of the sea near an island whose Japanese commander was subsequently hanged for eating PoWs.

Bush sushi?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:28:46am

re: #32 Kragar

I’ve got a co-worker who is a Carson fan.

“He’s so well spoken!”

They said that about Ted Bundy also.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:31:11am

re: #32 Kragar

I’ve got a co-worker who is a Carson fan.

“He’s so well spoken!”

I regularly get people on FB praising Dr. C.

To which I usually respond that I respect and admire him as a surgeon but find he is in no way qualified for the office of President of the USA.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:32:05am

re: #32 Kragar

I’ve got a co-worker who is a Carson fan.

“He’s so well spoken!”

And why wouldn’t he be.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:35:09am

They don’t get it:

From newsmax.com

Bernie Sanders: Let Hillary Email Investigation Proceed

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, having lost his lead in the Democratic presidential race in New Hampshire, is taking off the gloves and now says he actually does care about front-runner Hillary Clinton’s emails.

It has little to do with attacking HIllary, it is about letting the GOP continue to make idiots of themselves by beating a dead horse.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:43:46am

Yes, I don’t see why coming from an apocalyptical evangelist belief system would make Ben Carson less eloquent.

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Danack  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:54:07am

Add Cuba to the list of things that God hasn’t told Carson about yet thehill.com

New GOP presidential front-runner Ben Carson had trouble Wednesday answering questions about U.S.-Cuba policies, a report Wednesday says.

Carson admitted during an interview that he was in the dark on policies toward those coming to the U.S. from the island nation, according to The Miami Herald.

“You’re going to have to explain to me exactly what you mean by that,” he said when quizzed by the Herald on the so-called wet-foot, dry-foot policy.

And of course, he still blames Obama for not doing the right thing with respect to Cuba, without actually knowing what the current US policy is towards Cuba.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 4:56:12am

re: #76 Danack

Add Cuba to the list of things that God hasn’t told Carson about yet thehill.com

“You’re going to have to explain to me exactly what you mean by that,” he said when quizzed by the Herald on the so-called wet-foot, dry-foot policy.

And of course, he still blames Obama for not doing the right thing with respect to Cuba, without actually knowing what the current US policy is towards Cuba.

librul media gotcha questions!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:01:20am

re: #76 Danack

Add Cuba to the list of things that God hasn’t told Carson about yet thehill.com

And of course, he still blames Obama for not doing the right thing with respect to Cuba, without actually knowing what the current US policy is towards Cuba.

Typical. I don’t expect him to be an expert but God man you are running for president.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:01:40am

I predict at least a 5% surge for Carson in the GOP nomination for this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:05:06am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Typical. I don’t expect him to be an expert but God man you are running for president.

I posted some criticism in an earlier thread from Red State Blog of all places pointing out that Ben, despite all his brilliance, does not seem to even be putting any effort into familiarizing himself with the basics of foreign policy, economics and politics in order to campaign for office.

Just because you are an outsider does not excuse you from being clueless.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:06:50am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I posted some criticism in an earlier thread from Red State Blog of all places pointing out that Ben, despite all his brilliance, does not seem to even be putting any effort into familiarizing himself with the basics of foreign policy, economics and politics in order to campaign for office.

Just because you are an outsider does not excuse you from being clueless.

Perhaps he expects a divine voice to provide him with advice as needed.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:08:05am

re: #76 Danack

Add Cuba to the list of things that God hasn’t told Carson about yet thehill.com

And of course, he still blames Obama for not doing the right thing with respect to Cuba, without actually knowing what the current US policy is towards Cuba.

“Cuba? America should annex that island along with Hawaii, because they’re really beautiful based on pictures I see on social media.”

////

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:08:12am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I posted some criticism in an earlier thread from Red State Blog of all places pointing out that Ben, despite all his brilliance, does not seem to even be putting any effort into familiarizing himself with the basics of foreign policy, economics and politics in order to campaign for office.

Yeah I mean I can forgive not being an expert but Ben seems almost proud of his ignorance and that’s a virtue to the base. Yet we hear that Obama is just an idiot community organizer.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:08:25am

re: #79 Timothy Watson

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I predict at least a 5% surge for Carson in the GOP nomination for this.

Yeah, I was thinking “I don’t see how this hurts him.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:09:10am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They don’t get it:

From newsmax.com

Bernie Sanders: Let Hillary Email Investigation Proceed

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, having lost his lead in the Democratic presidential race in New Hampshire, is taking off the gloves and now says he actually does care about front-runner Hillary Clinton’s emails.

It has little to do with attacking HIllary, it is about letting the GOP continue to make idiots of themselves by beating a dead horse.

But the EMAILS!!!!!!!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:10:27am

re: #73 BeenHereAwhile

And why wouldn’t he be.

And he doesn’t use a Teleprompter!!!!!11

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:10:50am

re: #84 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I was thinking “I don’t see how this hurts him.”

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!1!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:12:12am

re: #84 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I was thinking “I don’t see how this hurts him.”

Being reasonable would.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:14:05am

Well Eugene Delgaudio lost so that’s one small victory.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:17:38am

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

It concerned some legal wrangling between the county and my condo board. It ended up not involving me personally. So I was worried about nothing.

Whew. Glad to hear it was nothing. That would drive me crazy. You’d think there’d be some way—especially in this age of communications—to communicate something of this nature more directly and less worriedly than through registered mail.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:19:26am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Well Eugene Delgaudio lost so that’s one small victory.

Damn, I had missed that, good to know.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:22:28am

Wooden Counterweight Desk (or Table)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:22:55am

re: #91 Timothy Watson

Damn, I had missed that, good to know.

I had too. Guy who beat him is only 33. For those who don’t know him, Gene is a raging homophobic asshole who likens homosexuality to child molestation while having a brother arrested for sex acts with under aged girls.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:25:51am

re: #67 William Lewis

I never voted for him but I did respect someone who went from the Ivy League to being a combat pilot for the Navy. More honorable than many…

I actually did vote for GHWB, in 1988. The first presidential election I voted in. Although by the end I hadn’t cared much for the campaign he waged—the whole “card-carrying ACLU” thing still sticks in my craw a bit. So he was my first and last GOP presidential vote. But I look forward to the biography.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:26:22am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:28:07am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Being reasonable would.

This kind of inanity should hurt him in the general election, but only endears him right now to republicans who think proper use of the apostrophe is political correctness run amuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:28:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:29:53am

re: #90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Whew. Glad to hear it was nothing. That would drive me crazy. You’d think there’d be some way—especially in this age of communications—to communicate something of this nature more directly and less worriedly than through registered mail.

It is just there to serve as legal proof that such and such information was delivered to said person at a certain point in time.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:30:38am

Meanwhile, I’m teleworking today, and the Internet icon on my work laptop is indicating that I am not connected to the Internet. But here I am on the Internets….

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Joe Bacon  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:31:45am

re: #73 BeenHereAwhile

And why wouldn’t he be.

I’ve got coworkers at my Social Security office who are supporting Carson. If I hear them say “He’s God’s Man” one more time…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:32:14am

re: #100 Joe Bacon

I’ve got coworkers at my Social Security office who are supporting Carson. If I hear them say “He’s God’s Man” one more time…

Really? A Social Security field office?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:32:31am

re: #95 Dr. Matt

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:33:41am

re: #100 Joe Bacon

I’ve got coworkers at my Social Security office who are supporting Carson. If I hear them say “He’s God’s Man” one more time…

They do know he’ll put them out of work and “God’s man” puke.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:34:00am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminds me of this.

screen.yahoo.com

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:35:12am

CCJ’s “Clinton Secret Oppo Project” GoFundMe Flop

I’m working on the story of a lifetime: stopping Hillary Clinton from becoming president and need your help.

This is my most audacious project yet but when Barack Obama was re-elected I vowed that I would never allow a modern presidential candidate to run for office without doing everything I could to vet her.

And so for the past three years my team and I have been researching Hillary Clinton and we have a lead on a game-changing story. If we are successful it will change how opposition research is done once and for all. This’ll be our Matt Drudge and Monica Lewinsky moment that will hopefully end the Clintons’ political aspirations once and for all.

I need $40,000 to hire private eyes, pick up the material, run the requisite stupidly expensive tests, and produce a high production quality video.

The little fucker is nothing but a walking, talking grift.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:37:31am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

CCJ’s “Clinton Secret Oppo Project” GoFundMe Flop

The little fucker is nothing but a walking, talking grift.

Is it he still trying to get DNA of Chelsea Clinton to prove that Bill isn’t her father?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:37:48am

re: #106 Timothy Watson

Is it he still trying to get DNA of Chelsea Clinton to prove that Bill isn’t her father?

yep

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:38:08am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

CCJ’s “Clinton Secret Oppo Project” GoFundMe Flop

The little fucker is nothing but a walking, talking grift.

I’ve been meaning to check on that. He has not had any more donations since I last checked six months ago. Supposedly, his big reveal will be around the time of the Democratic Convention — if he gets that $40K. Ha.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:41:37am

re: #106 Timothy Watson

Is it he still trying to get DNA of Chelsea Clinton to prove that Bill isn’t her father?

He is one sick twisted loser. I really hope he ends up in jail. Besides Dick Cheney, I can’t think of another person so deserving.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:45:47am

re: #109 Dr. Matt

He is one sick twisted loser. I really hope he ends up in jail. Besides Dick Cheney, I can’t think of another person so deserving.

I’m not sure how he expects to obtain DNA samples. The Secret Service protects the Clintons, including Chelsea and her family, too (I think). The SS would look askance at someone poking through the Clintons’ garbage.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:47:59am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

CCJ’s “Clinton Secret Oppo Project” GoFundMe Flop

The little fucker is nothing but a walking, talking grift.

OFFS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:48:14am

See if I were CCJ’s wife or in laws, I’d be getting tired of the childish bullshit and the shitting on the floor.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:49:09am

re: #110 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not sure how he expects to obtain DNA samples. The Secret Service protects the Clintons, including Chelsea and her family, too (I think). The SS would look askance at someone poking through the Clintons’ garbage.

But CCJ’s connections are YOOOOGE

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:49:43am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

See if I were CCJ’s wife or in laws, I’d be getting tired of the childish bullshit and the shitting on the floor.

I somehow assume that they are clueless and unaware of anything but his portrayal of events.

Or he woulda been put out on the streets long ago…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:50:29am

re: #113 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But CCJ’s connections are YOOOOGE

Well, they sure haven’t helped get him adequate legal representation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:51:45am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I somehow assume that they are clueless and unaware of anything but his portrayal of events.

Or he woulda been put out on the streets long ago…

True that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:52:08am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

CCJ’s “Clinton Secret Oppo Project” GoFundMe Flop

The little fucker is nothing but a walking, talking grift.

This is just another one of his “will someone please do this job for me and send me some moneys and I’ll break this yoooge story…” grifts.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:52:17am

re: #110 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not sure how he expects to obtain DNA samples. The Secret Service protects the Clintons, including Chelsea and her family, too (I think). The SS would look askance at someone poking through the Clintons’ garbage.

He’s watched too many spy movies.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:52:50am

re: #118 Dr. Matt

He’s watched too many spy movies.

And CSI episodes.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:52:52am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, they sure haven’t helped get him adequate legal representation.

He has binders full of lawyers….

And a team of millionaires around him….

////

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:57:57am

re: #120 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He has binders full of lawyers….

And a team of millionaires billionaires around him….

////

According to him, anyway

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:02:16am

re: #105 Dr. Matt

This’ll be our Matt Drudge and Monica Lewinsky moment that will hopefully end the Clintons’ political aspirations once and for all.

Delusional, Chucky is.

Clinton turned out to be ever more popular once the scandal broke. His popularity soared during the impeachment. It didn’t hurt Hillary either, as she proceeded to be elected US Senator from NY and then became Sec. State after losing the nomination to Obama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:04:13am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:05:45am

re: #122 lawhawk

Delusional, Chucky is.

Clinton turned out to be ever more popular once the scandal broke. His popularity soared during the impeachment. It didn’t hurt Hillary either, as she proceeded to be elected US Senator from NY and then became Sec. State after losing the nomination to Obama.

Heck, my mother liked Clinton, even with all the Lewinsky nonsense. She figured the big hue-and-cry about Monica and Bill was just all politics.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:06:49am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is a damn shame and of course it’s something that doesn’t bother conservatives at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:07:22am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Child care providers make so little they can’t afford care for their own kids

In Germany, it is the case that preschool teachers cannot begin to live off their own state pensions.

Child care was always a low priority in West Germany, because they wanted to distinguish themselves from East Germany, where almost all children were in day care because their mothers were working.

West Germany wanted to highlight itself as a land of Mothers Who Stay Home.

They have made a lot of progress, and are certainly ahead of the USA in most respects, but still far behind their actual needs of a society where most mothers work out of economic necessity and not out of feminist egotism…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:09:10am

STUPIDS IN MY MENTIONS==>

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:09:12am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

He thinks the Illuminati had the Rosetta Stone made to order as part of a long-term plan to create and impose Eurosocialism.

Wow. That is just … Are you channeling?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:09:13am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Heck, my mother liked Clinton, even with all the Lewinsky nonsense. She figured the big hue-and-cry about Monica and Bill was just all politics.

My grandparents did too. They no doubt didn’t like the adultery- who did really but felt investigating it was crap. My grandfather’s problem with Bill was over NAFTA and his trade policies but he never was going to support any Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:11:14am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDS IN MY MENTIONS==>

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I look at this way. The IRS has public accountability. A for profit revenue collector does not. No one is going to write love letters to the IRS anytime soon but better them than a privatized entity whose sole aim is profit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:12:40am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

I look at this way. The IRS has public accountability. A for profit revenue collector does not. No one is going to write love letters to the IRS anytime soon but better them than a privatized entity whose sole aim is profit.

A privatized entity is also more easily bribed than the IRS.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:13:29am

Anyone here who ever had a soft spot for ELO back in the day (yes, was one of the first records I bought along with Styx before I discovered The Ramones and The Clash…) will find this review of the new album on NPR interesting.

npr.org

Here’s the first video as well…

ELO - When I Was A Boy (Jeff Lynne’s ELO – Video)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:13:32am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:14:48am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A privatized entity is also more easily bribed than the IRS.

Exactly. See the PA kids for cash prison scandal. Some things should never be privatized. Revenue collection is one of those. A privatized version of the IRS would be much worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:15:16am

re: #132 William Lewis

Anyone here who ever had a soft spot for ELO back in the day (yes, was one of the first records I bought along with Styx before I discovered The Ramones and The Clash…) will find this review of the new album on NPR interesting.

npr.org

Here’s the first video as well…

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I was a fan of early ELO before they went pop (ELO II, On Third Day)

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:16:02am

re: #6 jhncsy

But there’s only like one tiny frickin room in the whole damn pyramid! There’s no place to store anything!

Don’t you see? That’s the genius of it!

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:16:16am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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Nope, of course not, she might learn something then. Ah, the joy of dealing with the economically innumerate.

Your strength in dealing with these twits is amazing to me, VB

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:16:19am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Exactly. See the PA kids for cash prison scandal. Some things should never be privatized. Revenue collection is one of those. A privatized version of the IRS would be much worse.

Replacing the IRS with private collections would be a FUCKING DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE.

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darthstar  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:16:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:16:50am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Exactly. See the PA kids for cash prison scandal. Some things should never be privatized. Revenue collection is one of those. A privatized version of the IRS would be much worse.

I am afraid this proposition is gonna get a lot of traction. Nobody likes the IRS in the first place, the GOP has us convinced that anything is better in private hands, and they have us convinced that the IRS is a political tool that Obama uses to crush dissent, etc.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:17:02am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

I look at this way. The IRS has public accountability. A for profit revenue collector does not. No one is going to write love letters to the IRS anytime soon but better them than a privatized entity whose sole aim is profit.

The problem is that IRS collecting tax debts is often going after individuals or businesses that have no assets left to assess. Privatizing the collections process means that you’re now paying an outside contractor to go and try and collect, and then taking a portion of whatever they collect. The end result is that they’re not collecting nearly as much as they hoped, but they cost even more than projected.

The GOP has been on the IRS for years about how they are too aggressive in auditing and collections, even as the actual statistics have shown a decline in audits and that means that far too many people who are engaging in evasion are going uncaught. Every time someone points this out, the GOP claims that the IRS is too powerful and needs to be reined in.

It’s just another part of the GOP govt starvation diet.

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Great White Snark  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:17:46am

re: #132 William Lewis

Just me of does anyone else get a Paul McCartney and Wings vibe off that song?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:17:59am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Replacing the IRS with private collections would be a FUCKING DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE.

Yes It would be. These people are morons. You think you hate the IRS now? Imagine how you’ll feel when a for profit collection firm shows up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:05am

re: #137 William Lewis

Nope, of course not, she might learn something then. Ah, the joy of dealing with the economically innumerate.

Your strength in dealing with these twits is amazing to me, VB

I’m done with it now.

Every single interaction that I have with wingnuts on Twitter follows this script to the letter==>

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darthstar  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:08am

GHW Bush has just run out of fucks to give about either of his asshole sons.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:14am

re: #139 darthstar

I am Popeye of Borg. You will be askgimilated! Ack ack ack!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:35am

re: #141 lawhawk

The problem is that IRS collecting tax debts is often going after individuals or businesses that have no assets left to assess. Privatizing the collections process means that you’re now paying an outside contractor to go and try and collect, and then taking a portion of whatever they collect. The end result is that they’re not collecting nearly as much as they hoped, but they cost even more than projected.

The GOP has been on the IRS for years about how they are too aggressive in auditing and collections, even as the actual statistics have shown a decline in audits and that means that far too many people who are engaging in evasion are going uncaught. Every time someone points this out, the GOP claims that the IRS is too powerful and needs to be reined in.

It’s just another part of the GOP govt starvation diet.

And partly a way to protect GOP supporters who might be tax dodgers, maybe.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:54am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDS IN MY MENTIONS==>

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That process is called “tax farming”. It’s been around since before the Roman Empire (Christ was accused of hanging with hookers and tax farmers—Matthew). The abuse got so bad in France under the Louis that it helped set up the Revolution.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:18:55am

re: #141 lawhawk

The problem is that IRS collecting tax debts is often going after individuals or businesses that have no assets left to assess. Privatizing the collections process means that you’re now paying an outside contractor to go and try and collect, and then taking a portion of whatever they collect. The end result is that they’re not collecting nearly as much as they hoped, but they cost even more than projected.

The GOP has been on the IRS for years about how they are too aggressive in auditing and collections, even as the actual statistics have shown a decline in audits and that means that far too many people who are engaging in evasion are going uncaught. Every time someone points this out, the GOP claims that the IRS is too powerful and needs to be reined in.

It’s just another part of the GOP govt starvation diet.

So it’s like voter fraud, a boogeyman with little basis in reality.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:19:38am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In Germany, it is the case that preschool teachers cannot begin to live off their own state pensions.

Child care was always a low priority in West Germany, because they wanted to distinguish themselves from East Germany, where almost all children were in day care because their mothers were working.

West Germany wanted to highlight itself as a land of Mothers Who Stay Home.

They have made a lot of progress, and are certainly ahead of the USA in most respects, but still far behind their actual needs of a society where most mothers work out of economic necessity and not out of feminist egotism…

The same is true in Japan, where the (largely unachievable) ideal of three-generation homes occupies the minds of conservatives: the wife will stay home and care for the in-laws while directing the education of the children; the husband will be the salaryman warrior. Now they are against childcare because they fear that working women is what is driving the falling birthrate.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:19:57am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Replacing the IRS with private collections would be a FUCKING DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE.

The TPGOP learns nothing and remembers things that didn’t happen.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:20:42am

re: #145 darthstar

GHW Bush has just run out of fucks to give about either of his asshole sons.

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Wow.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:21:01am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

So it’s like voter fraud most GOP talking points, a boogeyman with little basis in reality.

FTFY

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:21:20am

re: #141 lawhawk

The problem is that IRS collecting tax debts is often going after individuals or businesses that have no assets left to assess. Privatizing the collections process means that you’re now paying an outside contractor to go and try and collect, and then taking a portion of whatever they collect. The end result is that they’re not collecting nearly as much as they hoped, but they cost even more than projected.

The GOP has been on the IRS for years about how they are too aggressive in auditing and collections, even as the actual statistics have shown a decline in audits and that means that far too many people who are engaging in evasion are going uncaught. Every time someone points this out, the GOP claims that the IRS is too powerful and needs to be reined in.

It’s just another part of the GOP govt starvation diet.

They keep bringing up the vetting of Tea Party organizations for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status as PROOFS TEH IRS IS TEH HITLER TYRANNY!!!!!! FELLOW COLONIALS LET US RISE UP WITH ARE MUSKETS!!!11!!!, not mentioning that these orgs eventually received the non-profit status they requested.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:21:54am

re: #142 Great White Snark

Just me of does anyone else get a Paul McCartney and Wings vibe off that song?

He’s ALWAYS cribbed from the Beatles. Look at his contributions to the Travelling Wilburys too. Steal from the best…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:23:08am

sample:

His positions stand in stark contrast to his own history, however. Bevin accepted $100,000 in state money from New Hampshire via a matching grant when his family bell factory burned down. When asked why he didn’t have the insurance which would have covered the factory’s reconstruction, Bevin told reporters that the price of the insurance was too high.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:24:49am

re: #132 William Lewis

Anyone here who ever had a soft spot for ELO back in the day (yes, was one of the first records I bought along with Styx before I discovered The Ramones and The Clash…) will find this review of the new album on NPR interesting.

npr.org

Here’s the first video as well…

I’ve always looked at ELO as sort of a stolen idea, with Lynne taking Roy Wood’s original idea and going lowest-common-denominator. Granted, they had a lot of hits, but if Wood hadn’t bailed it would have been a lot more interesting than it turned out.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:24:57am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

IRS audit rate is at decade low.

IRS personnel audited just over 1.2 million individuals during the fiscal year, the preliminary data shows. That marked a 1.1% decline from 2014, and a nearly 22.3% drop from fiscal year 2010.

As a result, audit collections so far this year dropped to $7.32 billion, the lowest level since 2002. Audit-generated revenue averaged $14.7 billion annually between 2005 and 2010, but the average dropped to $10.5 billion per year since 2010, the IRS said.

The declines came amid cuts in IRS budget funding and employee headcount, as well as a rise in the number of individual federal returns filed for three of the last four years.

Staffing reductions contributed to the worst level of IRS taxpayer services in years, as phone calls dropped by the tax agency’s switchboard soared past 8 million, and rates of calls answered fell sharply.

Failing to audit means revenue is lost due to evasion.

Approximately 1% of returns are flagged for audit. For those with income over $200,000, the audit rates are slightly higher due to more room for evasion and dodgy tax avoidance schemes.

That said, prosecutions are actually up - and when the IRS engages in a prosecution, they usually get the conviction.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:28:08am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

They keep bringing up the vetting of Tea Party organizations for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status as PROOFS TEH IRS IS TEH HITLER TYRANNY!!!!!! FELLOW COLONIALS LET US RISE UP WITH ARE MUSKETS!!!11!!!, not mentioning that these orgs eventually received the non-profit status they requested.

The IRS was evaluating all entities seeking 501 exemption, and they used a few shortcuts - like TP or progressive or other political-related terms. The IG report was cherry picked to identify only the IRS looking at right-leaning entities, even though they were only a fraction of all those evaluated by the political-term shortcut.

The shortcut was needed because the GOP had pushed to cut the IRS enforcement division budget so there were fewer people to review applications for whether they were truly entitled to the nonprofit status.

In the end, there wasn’t a scandal, but a ginned up controversy that doesn’t resemble anything that the right wing has turned it into.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:29:01am

re: #18 Kragar

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And yes, #BenCarsonFacts is becoming a thing on Twitter

Hey! No fair…Kragar gets more updings for tweeting my magazine photoshop than I got for creating it.

What’s up with that? Must be a pecking order thing.

: )

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:30:36am

re: #153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

FTFY

Touche.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:31:10am

Good morning.
terrybisson.com

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lizardofid  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:33:34am

re: #132 William Lewis

Anyone here who ever had a soft spot for ELO back in the day (yes, was one of the first records I bought along with Styx before I discovered The Ramones and The Clash…) will find this review of the new album on NPR interesting.

npr.org

Here’s the first video as well…

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Good morning all

Thanks for that link WL!

I think it was when I caught Mr. Blue Sky, (I guess it was like a little doc on Paladium) just a few years back, that I finally recognized the genius of Jeff Lynne, and how much of ELO’s music had been playing in the background of my life, without my being fully aware of it. (not to mention a crush on Rosie Vela that I never really got over ; ) )

Anyway, thanks again.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:33:59am

re: #157 makeitstop

I can see that but I still liked even that LCD version better than a lot of the radio manure when I was young.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:39:09am

re: #18 Kragar

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And yes, #BenCarsonFacts is becoming a thing on Twitter

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:40:14am

re: #165 Dr. Matt

The Holy Roman Empire was Holy, Roman, and an Empire - Dr. Ben Carson.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:41:09am

Carson Facts- The German Democratic Republic ushered in Democracy for the people of East Germany.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:41:37am

re: #164 William Lewis

I can see that but I still liked even that LCD version better than a lot of the radio manure when I was young.

I was a huge Move fan, and I could never understand why they never broke through here in the States. They were the prototypical ‘heavy’ band (check out ‘Brontosaurus,’ which was eventually covered by Cheap Trick along with ‘California Man’) - that song was exploring down-tunings a few years before Black Sabbath.

The Move’s ‘Message From The Country’ is a stunning album. If they’d just hung on long enough to have a US hit, ELO probably would have remained a Move side project as Wood intended.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:41:44am
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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:42:13am

The Cold War proves that global warming can be fought, and won. #BenCarsonFacts

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:43:11am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

And this:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:43:56am

I have a technical question: I am trying to edit my display name, however in account settings it seems the image of my icon is blocking me from putting the cursor in the display name field. I can’t seem to find a way to temporarily remove the icon, or maybe have it in the background. (It looks like it’s in the background because I can see the other stuff, but when I click a couple times on the display name field the image is selected instead. I haven’t tried to edit my name for a couple of years, and I don’t remember how I did it. Thanks for anybody with a suggestion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:45:25am

Deray owns a wingnut==>

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:45:29am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

Half of the year’s record highs in Philadelphia have been posted since 1990. In that time there are less than a dozen record lows.

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Kryptik  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:47:31am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

You’re right. America had a system of randomized enslavement based on a lottery system, not race. I forgot.

I worry that a distressing amount of Americans would believe this unironically.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:48:05am

deep thoughts by Ben Carson:

I would like to deal with one question tonight in some detail. The issue is experience. Several people ask what they should tell their friends when people say “I like Carson but he has no political experience”.

You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King. They were willing to risk all they had, even their lives, to be free. Today we find ourselves with an entire class of politicians. No one in Philadelphia, during that summer our nation was born, dreamed that service was a career with a pension. America was the land of the Citizen Statesmen. They were merchants, lawyers, farmers — and yes, even doctors. They were willing to stand for freedom. Today, the political class stands in the way, not for the people. They demand pensions and perks. This is not what our Founders envisioned for America.

facebook.com

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:49:08am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sample:

Any Kentuckian that voted for Bevin and loses their healthcare, frankly, they get what they deserve. GOP voters will never, ever learn that they are always voting against their best interests.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:49:53am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts by Ben Carson:

facebook.com

That’s just plain wrong. Quite a few of the signers of the D of I were elected officials.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:50:27am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s just plain wrong. Quite a few of the signers of the D of I were elected officials.

pesky details…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:50:46am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts by Ben Carson:

facebook.com

He’s actually incorrect that the signers of the Declaration had no elected experience. Jefferson was a delegate in the Virginia House of Burgresses (forefather of our modern House of Delegates) from 1769-1775 and numerous other signers had similar experience. So, no Ben you are wrong yet again.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:51:17am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s just plain wrong. Quite a few of the signers of the D of I were elected officials.

The House of Burgesses was just an early burger restaurant. Carson Facts.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:51:28am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Replacing the IRS with private collections would be a FUCKING DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE.

Yep. It would be like a scene out of the movie Brazil by Terry Gilliam.

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blueraven  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:52:34am

So, this doesn’t speak well for another Bush Presidency, does it?
Those guys bullied my son…whaaaaaa!

WASHINGTON — After years of holding back, former President George Bush has finally broken his public silence about some of the key figures in his son’s administration, issuing scathing critiques of Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

In interviews with his biographer, Mr. Bush said that Mr. Cheney had built “his own empire” and asserted too much “hard-line” influence within George W. Bush’s White House in pushing for the use of force around the world. Mr. Rumsfeld, the elder Mr. Bush said, was an “arrogant fellow” who could not see how others thought and “served the president badly.”

nytimes.com

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:52:38am

re: #168 makeitstop

I was a huge Move fan, and I could never understand why they never broke through here in the States. They were the prototypical ‘heavy’ band (check out ‘Brontosaurus,’ which was eventually covered by Cheap Trick along with ‘California Man’) - that song was exploring down-tunings a few years before Black Sabbath.

The Move’s ‘Message From The Country’ is a stunning album. If they’d just hung on long enough to have a US hit, ELO probably would have remained a Move side project as Wood intended.

I now have an album to track down. Thank you!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:52:41am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

The House of Burgesses was just an early burger restaurant. Carson Facts.

You gave me another Carson fact!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:54:03am

re: #183 blueraven

So, this doesn’t speak well for another Bush Presidency, does it?
Those guys bullied my son…whaaaaaa!

nytimes.com

And with all respect to former President Bush, why is Jeb having many of his brother’s same advisers? I respect HW but his sons are morons when it comes to administration.

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blueraven  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:54:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:54:34am

o. m. g.
Ben Carson has a radio commercial.

He’s rapping.

And it’s every bit as horrible as you can imagine.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:55:03am

re: #185 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:55:51am

DANA MUHGUNZ BEING TEH STUPIDS, BECAUSE IT IS A DAY==>

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mr.fusion  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:57:10am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s just plain wrong. Quite a few of the signers of the D of I were elected officials.

I have my own personal theory on that…..I’ll give you a hint. It involves grain

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:57:18am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.

lolwhut

Thomas Jefferson wasn’t in the Virginia House of Burgesses?

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:57:45am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

DANA MUHGUNZ BEING TEH STUPIDS, BECAUSE IT IS A DAY==>

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No, 60 dipolomats died under the previous president instead because of the credit card… (rolls eyes).

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:57:56am

Blah, anyways check new comments before posting.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:58:00am

A thought if Ben Carson were to become the nominee: Every racist picture of Ben (like the ones of Obama) would have to be tracked to its source, because I suspect most of them would be either wingers attempting to push a falsehood or a white supremacist who can’t stand the thought of another black president. Though there will be idiot Democrats as well.

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sffilk  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:58:08am

Where is this person getting his information, if he is getting his information at all?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:58:26am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

DANA MUHGUNZ BEING TEH STUPIDS, BECAUSE IT IS A DAY==>

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No, Dana but people did die on 9/11 and there wasn’t nearly amount of investigating the President who was president was president the day that happened. People not dying doesn’t mean Marco gets to violate the law.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 6:59:12am

re: #194 Timothy Watson

Blah, anyways check new comments before posting.

The good old orange Virginia history book! You’re around my age IIRC. Remember that thing?

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lizardofid  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:00:01am

re: #184 William Lewis

I now have an album to track down. Thank you!

Same here, thanks Make it Stop

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:00:04am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

DANA MUHGUNZ BEING TEH STUPIDS, BECAUSE IT IS A DAY==>

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:00:22am

re: #184 William Lewis

I now have an album to track down. Thank you!

Here it is!

The Move - Message From The Country [Full Album] (1971) (HQ)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:01:59am

If only they got this outraged over thousands of Americans that died on 9-11 and demanded that the person in charge get some punishment. Oh wait, “He protected us” and we re-elected him. Benghazi was a tragic event and it had to be especially tough since Clinton and Obama unlike the Republicans actually knew Ambassador Stevens and considered im a friend. If Stevens hadn’t died, they’d be calling him another appeaser. They don’t care about the four men who died in Benghazi.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:02:30am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts by Ben Carson:

facebook.com

Occupations of the signers. Quite a few lawyers (as one would expect). In fact, Harrington was a member of the Continental Congress from 1774 onwards, Wolcott was a Commissioner of Indian Affairs and a member of the CC, McKean was delegate to CC, Gerry was a member of the state legislature in MA. Thornton was Speaker of the NH House of Reps and was an associate justice of the Superior Ct. by 1776. Benjamin Harrison was politically active in VA and a member of the House of Burgess.

And on and on.

No politicians in the bunch. Yup. That’s some serious #BenCarsonFacts right there.

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mr.fusion  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:02:44am

Also, this pyramid stuff should ABSOLUTELY be brought up at the next debate by the moderators. It’s important to know if the president makes up his own theories that contradict known truths.

But if it was, it would be dismissed as a biased “gotcha” question

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:05:24am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

The good old orange Virginia history book! You’re around my age IIRC. Remember that thing?

I don’t remember the book, but I do remember having to memorize a portion of Patrick Henry’s “Give me liberty, or give me death” speech for 4th grade Virginia history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:05:37am

re: #204 mr.fusion

Also, this pyramid stuff should ABSOLUTELY be brought up at the next debate by the moderators. It’s important to know if the president makes up his own theories that contradict known truths.

But if it was, it would be dismissed as a biased “gotcha” question

Anything that contains facts is a “gotcha” question for Ben Carson.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:06:29am

re: #205 Timothy Watson

I don’t remember the book, but I do remember having to memorize a portion of Patrick Henry’s “Give me liberty, or give me death” speech for 4th grade Virginia history.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:06:58am

So, maybe Dr. Ben wasn’t so violent a kid after all. talkingpointsmemo.com

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:07:16am

re: #168 makeitstop

I was a huge Move fan, and I could never understand why they never broke through here in the States. They were the prototypical ‘heavy’ band (check out ‘Brontosaurus,’ which was eventually covered by Cheap Trick along with ‘California Man’) - that song was exploring down-tunings a few years before Black Sabbath.

The Move’s ‘Message From The Country’ is a stunning album. If they’d just hung on long enough to have a US hit, ELO probably would have remained a Move side project as Wood intended.

I’m glad there are people that actually remember the Move and Roy Woods.

In many different forms of the arts there are those that produce something that doesn’t catch on with the general public, but gets the attention of other artists. The other artists take the originators idea and run with it and often score a big hit the originator never dreamed of.

In music there are many albums that never sold all that well, but everyone that is a musician has probably heard and used as an influence.

And one more little thing along this line. I often laugh at the polls of who is the greatest guitarist of all time. Sure the ones on the poll are great…but do we actually know if they are the best?

I played in a band with a cousin. When we got together to form the band, I hadn’t seen him in probably 25 years. I knew he was a hell of a musician. After 25 years he became more than just good. He was great. Best musician I ever played with. But we/he never had a lot of success. It made me think though that the best guitarist in the world may never be known. It might be some shy person that never leaves his house or is in some little cover band for the fun of it never intending on trying to be big time.

Great musicians and other artists of other disciplines are out there. Don’t let popularity by the commercial interests ever sway your judgement. And support them all!

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:08:08am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

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The Virginia SOLs didn’t put a big emphasis on nuance.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:08:55am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

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He also became a huge supporter of a strong federal government when he felt his interests were threatened. I admire the FFs but I don’t appreciate the white washing of them either. They were elites who set up a government for the interests of the elites.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:09:10am

re: #210 Timothy Watson

The Virginia SOLs didn’t put a big emphasis on nuance.

Agh those goddamned things.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:10:14am

About the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

PDF

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:11:36am

re: #213 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

About the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

PDF [Embedded content]

They were elites.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:13:02am

So. It’s looking like the wife and son are the other two people of interest in the Gleniwicz suicide-embezzlement mess.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:13:28am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

o. m. g.
Ben Carson has a radio commercial.

He’s rapping.

And it’s every bit as horrible as you can imagine.

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Well, there goes a bit of the white vote! Going Urban is going to chase some people away if this becomes known to them.

/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:14:59am

Another source for Dr. Ben to review. The DAR.
dar.org

ushistory.org
ushistory.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:15:32am

OH LOOK THEIR IS MOAR FAKE OQUEEFRAGE==>

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:16:52am

And yet wingnuts hate the ACLU. A group that actually does take the Constitution seriously rather than using it disparage anyone who doesn’t share their views.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:17:16am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

o. m. g.
Ben Carson has a radio commercial.

He’s rapping.

And it’s every bit as horrible as you can imagine.

[Embedded content]

MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:17:33am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Another source for Dr. Ben to review. The DAR.
dar.org

ushistory.org
ushistory.org

The DAR are a bunch of liberal elites. //

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:18:18am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Agh those goddamned things.

Yep, I had teachers who went through the text of the things to illustrate what were suppose to learn, including writing out their content on a blackboard as went from section to section.

And then there were the damn practice tests from old SOL questions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:19:56am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

They were elites.

Howard Zinn (A People’s History of the United States) makes the case that the American Revolution was not so much a popular uprising against authority as a case of the local elites throwing off the foreign elites, using the assets seized to consolidate power and replacing those that they had overthrown.

But he must hate America so we will ignore him.

/

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:19:59am

re: #209 ObserverArt

I played in a band with a cousin. When we got together to form the band, I hadn’t seen him in probably 25 years. I knew he was a hell of a musician. After 25 years he became more than just good. He was great. Best musician I ever played with. But we/he never had a lot of success. It made me think though that the best guitarist in the world may never be known. It might be some shy person that never leaves his house or is in some little cover band for the fun of it never intending on trying to be big time.

I know a few players like that. I listen to them and wonder why they aren’t sharing the stage with Clapton at Crossroads or selling tons of records.

Even guys who ‘made it’ to a point but never got yooge mystify me. One example is Danny Gatton, who probably had more pure chops and ability than any ten of his contemporaries. Gatton is still a big inspiration to me, and I steal as much of his style as my puny brain can process.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:20:11am

re: #222 Timothy Watson

Yep, I had teachers who went through the text of the things to illustrate what were suppose to learn, including writing out their content on a blackboard as went from section to section.

And then there were the damn practice tests from old SOL questions.

They were annoying as hell. And yeah I forgot about the practice SOL tests. I’ve been left with a lifelong hatred of standardized testing because of that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:20:47am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

The DAR are a bunch of liberal elites. //

I scanned the ushistory.org biographies. By my cursory count, at least half of the 56 signers had served as elected officials, either at the local or colonial level.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:20:52am

re: #220 Joe Bacon

MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT??? :-)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:21:01am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Howard Zinn (A People’s History of the United States) makes the case that the American Revolution was not so much a popular uprising against authority as a case of the local elites throwing off the foreign elites, using the assets seized to consolidate power and replacing those that they had overthrown.

But he must hate America so we will ignore him.

/

Man I haven’t read Zinn in years. But I think that’s a good thesis on what happened.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:21:06am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

Of all the video clips of President Bush, this is the one that might matter most these days:
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Fished out of the sea near an island whose Japanese commander was subsequently hanged for eating PoWs.

George the elder was lucky that day, which was a bad one for the Avenger torpedo bomber. But soon thereafter the Avengers had a great day, as on October 24th, 1944, it was the Avenger squadrons that inflicted the fatal torpedo hits on Japan’s super-battleship Musashi.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:21:20am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK THEIR IS MOAR FAKE OQUEEFRAGE==>

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This has got to be one of the most stupid stunts ever.

Yet, it will be seen as an outrage.

Who would be outraged? The most stupid people ever, of which this country seems to have an abundance.

Later LGFers…time to get to work on my window project, Got get them sealed in before predicted rain comes later this evening.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:21:28am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And a bunch of them were elected to the first Continental Congress, which began in 1775.

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:21:32am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, maybe Dr. Ben wasn’t so violent a kid after all. talkingpointsmemo.com

Carson was knifing classmates while Paul Ryan was running marathons.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:22:22am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I scanned the ushistory.org biographies. By my cursory count, at least half of the 56 signers had served as elected officials, either at the local or colonial level.

And I imagine many of the ones that weren’t elected were involved in law. Carson has never been involved in anything regarding politics. He’s just given some speeches and espoused some rhetorics that wingnuts like. I feel like applying for his old job at Hopkins. I am just as qualified for it as he is to be president.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:22:25am

re: #128 Bird in the Paw

Wow. That is just … Are you channeling?

No, just joking. I figured it was so over-the-top that it didn’t need a /sarc tag.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:22:44am

re: #232 iossarian

Carson was knifing classmates while Paul Ryan was running marathons.

And Donald Trump was working his way up from the mean streets to be a real estate mogul.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:23:16am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Someone should point out how often they destroy the Constitution every time they access it online.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:23:24am

While we’re on to buried pharaohs, there was a very interesting re-look at the death of Tut on 3AM cable. Using very credible people and technology, they proposed a death in battle caused when he was dumped from his chariot, got to his knees, and was hit by the wheel of a second chariot.

Edited to provide link:
imdb.com

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:23:36am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

No, just joking. I figured it was so over-the-top that it didn’t need a /sarc tag.

Poe’s law…

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:23:55am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Howard Zinn (A People’s History of the United States) makes the case that the American Revolution was not so much a popular uprising against authority as a case of the local elites throwing off the foreign elites, using the assets seized to consolidate power and replacing those that they had overthrown.

But he must hate America so we will ignore him.

/

Revolutions are probably always led by a mixture of the ideologically pure and the self-interested chancers. And both groups draw more heavily from societal elites than from the “common man”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:25:11am

re: #239 iossarian

Revolutions are probably always led by a mixture of the ideologically pure and the self-interested chancers. And both groups draw more heavily from societal elites than from the “common man”.

And look at who was given the right to vote in the early days of the US: landowning males only, no women, blacks, Native Americans or poor workers/farmers.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:25:30am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

He also became a huge supporter of a strong federal government when he felt his interests were threatened. I admire the FFs but I don’t appreciate the white washing of them either. They were elites who set up a government for the interests of the elites.

But they did work to limit elites in a number of ways, understanding that abuses of power are how governments fall. Which is a measure of the greatness of the Founders, in that they were much wiser than most.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:26:32am

re: #239 iossarian

Revolutions are probably always led by a mixture of the ideologically pure and the self-interested chancers. And both groups draw more heavily from societal elites than from the “common man”.

The common man is often caught in the middle. Adams even got at this- 1/3 were loyalists, 1/3 patriots, and the rest undecided. Having no family in the US during that time, I would love to learn what my distant relations were doing in their own countries revolutions. Hell, I recently found out that I’m part of a stateless ethnic group- the Rusyns. And there’s debate about whether they’re an actual group. The Slovakian (where my great grandfolks came from) government acknowledges them but the Ukrainians do not.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:26:34am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

o. m. g.
Ben Carson has a radio commercial.

He’s rapping.

And it’s every bit as horrible as you can imagine.

[Embedded content]

God…that was awful.

Anyone remember how much the RWNJs mocked Obama for the will.i.am ad (“Yes We Can”)?

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:27:00am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Howard Zinn (A People’s History of the United States) makes the case that the American Revolution was not so much a popular uprising against authority as a case of the local elites throwing off the foreign elites, using the assets seized to consolidate power and replacing those that they had overthrown.

But he must hate America so we will ignore him.

/

Good argument actually and probably why they were able to pull a non utterly tyranical government out of it unlike the much less (wealthy/educated/sophisticated/whatever) French were able to do a short while later. They didn’t make everyone free but in order to preserve their freedom they did build a system that could eventually free others. That’s one of the legacies of the English Civil War in our own two revolutions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:28:09am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

But they did work to limit elites in a number of ways, understanding that abuses of power are how governments fall. Which is a measure of the greatness of the Founders, in that they were much wiser than most.

Sure, I’m just pointing out that they saw government and participation in it as something for wealthy white males. I appreciate their wisdom but we can’t ignore that suffrage and thus participation in the new Republic was from Washington’s election to Jackson’s limited to only landowning white males.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:28:33am

re: #236 Belafon

Someone should point out how often they destroy the Constitution every time they access it online.

I started watching that video and turned it off before the 2-minute mark.

It’s basically just one of O’Queef’s operatives putting on a lame performance of OMG I’M FEELING SO OPPRESSED BY THIS LITTLE CONSTITUTION BOOKLET HERE PLEASE CAN YOU DO SOMETHING TO STOP IT FROM FUCKING UP MY FEELS & SAFETY HELP HELP I’M BEIN REPRESSED!!!!11!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:28:54am

re: #244 William Lewis

Good argument actually and probably why they were able to pull a non utterly tyranical government out of it unlike the much less (wealthy/educated/sophisticated/whatever) French were able to do a short while later. They didn’t make everyone free but in order to preserve their freedom they did build a system that could eventually free others. That’s one of the legacies of the English Civil War in our own two revolutions.

I really want to learn more about the English Civil War. It’s got a huge legacy not just on the British Isles but us as well.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:29:09am

Tut autopsy link:
imdb.com

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:29:22am

re: #224 makeitstop

I know a few players like that. I listen to them and wonder why they aren’t sharing the stage with Clapton at Crossroads or selling tons of records.
.

I know a woman in Eau Claire, WI who is probably the best blues guitarist in the nation today. Period. But her stage fright is crippling and when she was making an attempt at a musical career her self destructive behavior was legendary. She’s living a much better, healthier life with her partner now and still an amazing blues performer. It’s just that almost no one will ever know it.

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:29:28am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And look at who was given the right to vote in the early days of the US: landowning males only, no women, blacks, Native Americans or poor workers/farmers.

True, although you could also argue that this was simply business as usual rather than a deliberate ploy to exclude specific people from the political process. By which I mean that their exclusion would be more indicative of the revolutionary group’s intentions if those people had been emancipated in pre-existing systems.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:29:36am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Howard Zinn (A People’s History of the United States) makes the case that the American Revolution was not so much a popular uprising against authority as a case of the local elites throwing off the foreign elites, using the assets seized to consolidate power and replacing those that they had overthrown.

But he must hate America so we will ignore him.

/

I know he wrote that, but he was wrong. The Founders knew they owed those who had fought for the Revolution and they did work to pay that doubt with a government which avoided the abuses of the previous colonial regime. Indeed, the early attempts to avoid having a standing army signaled a desire to rule by consent instead of imposition.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:30:32am

re: #244 William Lewis

Good argument actually and probably why they were able to pull a non utterly tyranical government out of it unlike the much less (wealthy/educated/sophisticated/whatever) French were able to do a short while later. They didn’t make everyone free but in order to preserve their freedom they did build a system that could eventually free others. That’s one of the legacies of the English Civil War in our own two revolutions.

We’ll have to finish that revolution someday.

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:30:34am

Please, pretty please, conservatives, stop sending your children to elite librul institutions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:31:46am

re: #253 iossarian

Please, pretty please, conservatives, stop sending your children to elite librul institutions.

It’s quite interesting looking at the biographies of Republican presidential candidates and seeing that nearly all of them have some form of higher education from a public university or higher learning institution.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:33:32am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

We’ll have to finish that revolution someday.

Some days I hope so.

Other days I fear so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:33:34am

re: #251 Dark_Falcon

I know he wrote that, but he was wrong. The Founders knew they owed those who had fought for the Revolution and they did work to pay that doubt with a government which avoided the abuses of the previous colonial regime. Indeed, the early attempts to avoid having a standing army signaled a desire to rule by consent instead of imposition.

I think his version is a lot closer to the reality than the myth that is sold to us of a popular revolution of common people out fighting tyranny.

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WhatEVs  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:33:37am

re: #41 teleskiguy

CARSON: the Space Needle, in Seattle — and I didn’t know this until very recently — was used to kill Mothra after he did Pearl Harbor

Ya know what’s sad? I don’t know if Carson actually said this or not.

Which should give any normal human being pause.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:33:54am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I really want to learn more about the English Civil War. It’s got a huge legacy not just on the British Isles but us as well.

That’s where the early American dislike of standing armies comes from and its where the Anglosphere dislike of using the army for domestic purposes other than engineering and disaster relief comes from. The New Model Army remains an Example of What We Don’t Want even to this day.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:34:26am

re: #253 iossarian

Please, pretty please, conservatives, stop sending your children to elite librul institutions.

Like pre-K.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:35:37am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

I did a post a few weeks back that identified that something like 9 of the 15 candidates still in the race had attended a public university for undergrad or grad school. Those that didn’t happened to attend Ivy Leagues for the most part.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:35:40am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

That’s where the early American dislike of standing armies comes from and its where the Anglosphere dislike of using the army for domestic purposes other than engineering and disaster relief comes from. The New Model Army remains an Example of What We Don’t Want even to this day.

It’s a good fear to have. I’m glad we’ve never ended up with a military dictatorship at any point. Despite my belief that the founders were elites who set up a system that favored those elites, I do give Washington credit for not wanting to be a king or wanting lifelong power.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:36:25am

re: #260 lawhawk

I did a post a few weeks back that identified that something like 9 of the 15 candidates still in the race had attended a public university for undergrad or grad school. Those that didn’t happened to attend Ivy Leagues for the most part.

Rubio I saw went to community college like I did. Yet it wouldn’t surprise me if he wants to cut funding to community colleges.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:36:41am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think his version is a lot closer to the reality than the myth that is sold to us of a popular revolution of common people out fighting tyranny.

I’ll agree but I will add that almost every story’s truth can only be found by mashing multiple, usually contradictory, narratives together. The revolution that founded this nation would make a great Rashomon Gate style movie.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:36:59am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

He’s actually incorrect that the signers of the Declaration had no elected experience. Jefferson was a delegate in the Virginia House of Burgresses (forefather of our modern House of Delegates) from 1769-1775 and numerous other signers had similar experience. So, no Ben you are wrong yet again.

Didn’t George Washington sign the Declaration? Anyway, he was an elected official in VA as well before joining the Continental Congress. But this whole argument is just silly anyway.

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Alephnaught  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:38:02am

re: #209 ObserverArt

I’m glad there are people that actually remember the Move and Roy Woods.

In many different forms of the arts there are those that produce something that doesn’t catch on with the general public, but gets the attention of other artists. The other artists take the originators idea and run with it and often score a big hit the originator never dreamed of.

It’s strange, because when I was growing up in the early 1970s in Scotland, it was Roy Wood that was the big star. The Move were a massive band in the UK- they did the first single played on the UK’s first (legal) pop radio station, and had a No. 1 with “Blackberry Way” and a near miss with “Fire Brigade”, both of which were on the radio whenever they wanted to played pop from the past few years.

By the time I was growing up, and the Move had split, Roy Wood was the most well-known ex-members of the band, having massive success with his band Wizzard, cranking out epic Spectoresque productions. One of them, “I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day”, has basically become one of these things that turn up on “Best Xmas Songs Ever!!!” type compilations in the UK.

I didn’t even know who ELO were until they turned up one day on my television with a song called “Livin’ Thing”, and I didn’t know about their connection to The Move. To me, it was just a cool pop band with a decent tune and a bit of orchestra stuff chucked in.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:38:26am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK THEIR IS MOAR FAKE OQUEEFRAGE==>

all public universities are libtards who hate constitution and must be destroyed for Freedom!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:38:51am

re: #250 iossarian

True, although you could also argue that this was simply business as usual rather than a deliberate ploy to exclude specific people from the political process. By which I mean that their exclusion would be more indicative of the revolutionary group’s intentions if those people had been emancipated in pre-existing systems.

Free propertied women could and did vote in New Jersey from 1776-1807. Seems to have been an oversight.

www1.cuny.edu

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:39:17am

re: #266 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

all public universities are libtards who hate constitution and must be destroyed for Freedom!!!!

Also it was heritage and courageous for confederates to abandon the constitution to create confederacy and war against the union and the constitution.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:39:28am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think his version is a lot closer to the reality than the myth that is sold to us of a popular revolution of common people out fighting tyranny.

The vision I don’t like is of tyrannical King George. It presents the false image that King George was an absolute monarch in the mold of the Bourbon, Hapsburg, or Romanov dynasties. I mean was he to blame sure but mid 18th century England domestically in England at least (not in Ireland since the penal laws still existed) was much more closer to what we had in the early years of the Republic than the above mentioned. And I have to add that for all the Brits faults, they did abolish slavery before we did.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:40:33am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Free propertied women could and did vote in New Jersey from 1776-1807. Seems to have been an oversight.

www1.cuny.edu

Damn. Forgetting to post links this morning.

www1.cuny.edu

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:40:52am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

Deray owns a wingnut==>

Hurr hurr libtards and blahs always playing race card we are only race realists!!!!

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:41:10am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think his version is a lot closer to the reality than the myth that is sold to us of a popular revolution of common people out fighting tyranny.

Again, I don’t agree.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:41:21am

re: #264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Didn’t George Washington sign the Declaration? Anyway, he was an elected official in VA as well before joining the Continental Congress. But this whole argument is just silly anyway.

Washington wouldn’t have been a signer I believe since he was in the field as commander of the continental army so I don’t think he would have time. No doubt he approved of the sentiments and h wasn’t just some nobody. Carson is flat out not qualified for the job of President and hist statements indicate to me that he’s not qualified for any position in government.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:42:35am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

It’s a good fear to have. I’m glad we’ve never ended up with a military dictatorship at any point. Despite my belief that the founders were elites who set up a system that favored those elites, I do give Washington credit for not wanting to be a king or wanting lifelong power.

It’s interesting that we ended up with someone who took the myth of Cincinnatus seriously. We could have just as easily ended up with Benedict Arnold as “His Majesty”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:43:37am

SNL - Steve Martin - King Tut

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Snarknado!  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:43:57am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

“The World Turned Upside Down” by Christopher Hill does a great job of covering the clashing idealogies/philosophies of the English Civil War.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:44:33am

re: #274 William Lewis

It’s interesting that we ended up with someone who took the myth of Cincinnatus seriously. We could have just as easily ended up with Benedict Arnold as “His Majesty”.

That is one good side effect about Arnold’s treachery. He no doubt would have been seen as presidential material as the Hero of Saratoga.

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Snarknado!  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:45:51am

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

Again, I don’t agree.

Actually, it was both.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:46:04am

re: #145 darthstar

GHW Bush has just run out of fucks to give about either of his asshole sons.

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As I said during GW’s time in office, he was just a meat puppet.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:46:11am

It’s so hot and wet in Baja Alabama that they are actually re-scheduling HS football games. Got to get into the garden while there is a dry moment. Still bringing in eggplant, peppers and such in the first week of Nov. BBL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:46:36am

re: #276 Snarknado!

“The World Turned Upside Down” by Christopher Hill does a great job of covering the clashing idealogies/philosophies of the English Civil War.

Cool, I’ll look for that. I always again wonder about my own family’s role in it. They were no doubt Irish peasants who probably just wanted to be left the hell alone by Charlie and Ollie and practice their religion in peace. Speaking of King Charles I, my favorite pub in Galway when I studied over there was called the King’s Head.
thekingshead.ie

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:47:19am

re: #265 Alephnaught

It’s strange, because when I was growing up in the early 1970s in Scotland, it was Roy Wood that was the big star. The Move were a massive band in the UK- they did the first single played on the UK’s first (legal) pop radio station, and had a No. 1 with “Blackberry Way” and a near miss with “Fire Brigade”, both of which were on the radio whenever they wanted to played pop from the past few years.

By the time I was growing up, and the Move had split, Roy Wood was the most well-known ex-members of the band, having massive success with his band Wizzard, cranking out epic Spectoresque productions. One of them, “I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day”, has basically become one of these things that turn up on “Best Xmas Songs Ever!!!” type compilations in the UK.

I didn’t even know who ELO were until they turned up one day on my television with a song called “Livin’ Thing”, and I didn’t know about their connection to The Move. To me, it was just a cool pop band with a decent tune and a bit of orchestra stuff chucked in.

I consider Roy Wood to be the British version of Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He wrote a bunch of tunes (Hello Susie, California Man, Cherry Blossom Clinic among them) that in a just world would have been global hits.

Their early legal troubles - being sued by Prime Minister Harold Wilson (and losing) because of a libelous promo postcard and having to donate the royalties to ‘Flowers In The Rain’ to charity - had the effect of crippling them right out of the gate.

His ability to mine American pop and turn it into something distinctly British always amazed me. I don’t begrudge ELO their success (check that, I kinda do), but I wish Roy Wood hadn’t bowed out and gotten to go along for the ride.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:48:16am

What I look at that sort of supports ZInn’s thesis is that suffrage was limited, the creation of the Electoral College, and constitutional protection of slavery. Now that said, it was for the best that we got rid of the British government but I also imagine that for many poor farmers that day to day life really didn’t change that dramatically initially either.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:51:29am

re: #276 Snarknado!

“The World Turned Upside Down” by Christopher Hill does a great job of covering the clashing idealogies/philosophies of the English Civil War.

I’ll also push this one again:

The Cousins’ Wars: Religion, Politics, Civil Warfare, And The Triumph Of Anglo-America
by Kevin Phillips

smile.amazon.com

This remains the best work I’ve found exploring the relations between the wars of the Reformation and the three wars that most impact our creation as a nation: The English Civil War, the American Revolution & the American Civil War. Marvelous book, second best history book I’ve read in the last decade (the best? “The Wages of Destruction”).

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:51:52am

And now, for some more #BenCarsonFacts:

1) Jesus had a machine gun to take on the money changers.
2) Bon Jovi got the title of their song Lay Your Hands on Me from Ben Carson.
3) Moses, let alone Harry Potter aint got nothing on me. I’m here to lead as the Chosen One.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:52:54am

re: #285 lawhawk

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And now, for some more #BenCarsonFacts:

1) Jesus had a machine gun to take on the money changers.
2) Bon Jovi got the title of their song Lay Your Hands on Me from Ben Carson.
3) Moses, let alone Harry Potter aint got nothing on me. I’m here to lead as the Chosen One.

I thought his denomination frowned on alcohol use.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:55:52am

re: #285 lawhawk

Not sure Jesus is the guy I want to party with. I bet the Pope could could be a chick magnet, but Jesus, not so much.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:58:46am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

That is one good side effect about Arnold’s treachery. He no doubt would have been seen as presidential material as the Hero of Saratoga.

He actually didn’t get the credit for Saratoga initially, as Horatio Gates deftly hogged the glory. But had he stayed loyal he would have seen that situation righted after Gates fled the battlefield at Camden, SC.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:59:01am

re: #287 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I take it, from the nickname change, that you passed. Congrats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 7:59:54am

O_o

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:00:22am

re: #289 It’s on his hat!

I take it, from the nickname change, that you passed. Congrats.

Missed that touch. Congratulations, I think, after watching my ex-wife work her ass off as an RN, I’m not sure…

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Snarknado!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:01:32am

re: #289 It’s on his hat!

I take it, from the nickname change, that you passed. Congrats.

Secondeed.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:01:50am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Santorum ignores how Obama has appeared on O’Reilly’s show and more than held his own.

But Lil’ Ricky seems to have his own version of reality, as do most modern conservatives.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:01:53am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I’ve been mocked mercilessly by Dan Savage!”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:03:37am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

What is Ricky fundraising for?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:04:15am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

I thought his denomination frowned on alcohol use.

oh, it does

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:04:59am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

He actually didn’t get the credit for Saratoga initially, as Horatio Gates deftly hogged the glory. But had he stayed loyal he would have seen that situation righted after Gates fled the battlefield at Camden, SC.

Oh, I had thought Arnold was seen as the hero of the battle during that time. Thanks.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:05:09am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

What does the asterisk say? Oh wait.

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:05:23am

re: #289 It’s on his hat!

I take it, from the nickname change, that you passed. Congrats.

re: #292 Snarknado!

Secondeed.

Thirded.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:05:55am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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He’s taken on ISIS? Bragging that they hate you isn’t really taking them on Rick. I mean the only reason they hate you is the same reason you hate them, they see your twisted worldview as a rival to their twisted worldview.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:06:38am

re: #296 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

oh, it does

Yeah I thought so.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:07:23am

re: #293 makeitstop

Santorum ignores how Obama has appeared on O’Reilly’s show and more than held his own.

But Lil’ Ricky seems to have his own version of reality, as do most modern conservatives.

Of course he ignores that in a fundraising letter. Would Barack Obama give a speech at a fundraiser saying that Ted Cruz is skilled and effective in making an argument? no, he would not. Fundraising letters and speeches are intended to elicit a feeling of “Go team, GO!”. Nuance and a realistic look at the other side’s strength is not part how money is raised for political campaigns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:07:30am

re: #289 It’s on his hat!

I take it, from the nickname change, that you passed. Congrats.

Yes, congrats Steve. Quite an accomplishment.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:07:44am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

He’s taken on ISIS? Bragging that they hate you isn’t really taking them on Rick. I mean the only reason they hate you is the same reason you hate them, they see your twisted worldview as a rival to their twisted worldview.

Santorum has a lot more in common with ISIS than the average American, especially if you consider that the positions he takes publicly are merely a moderated, sanitized version of his actual views.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:07:59am

re: #289 It’s on his hat!

Thanks. I was positive I failed. The first 15 questions just kicked my butt, but then I got questions I could handle. It’s called a “computer adaptive test” because it responds to whether you’re getting questions right or wrong. If you get them right it moves on. If you get them wrong, it comes back at you again on that topic. (They say it gives you another opportunity to get it right, but I guess it’s a matter of perspective.) Anyway, it has a minimum of 75 and a max of 265 questions. After 75, it evaluates whether you’re answering at a passing level (and stops), a failing level (and stops), or in between, and keeps going until you establish you can stay above passing level or can’t get above failing level. So after 75 questions I was so rattled by the beginning of the test that I was cringing everytime I hit “next”. Finally after 87 or so the test ended. The only thing that made me think I passes was the fact that the last question was a lollipop and I was certain I got it right. The people familiar with the test agreed that the test wouldn’t say you failed if the last question was correctly answered. The algorithm would say “pass”. It would stop on a wrong answer if the algorithm decided you were hopeless. THen I started wondering if I misread that last one, but finally my license showed up! Now I gotta get a suit.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:08:57am

re: #291 William Lewis

Should have done it years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:09:05am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Of course he ignores that in a fundraising letter. Would Barack Obama give a speech at a fundraiser saying that Ted Cruz is skilled and effective in making an argument? no, he would not. Fundraising letters and speeches are intended to elicit a feeling of “Go team, GO!”. Nuance and a realistic look at the other side’s strength is not part how money is raised for political campaigns.

True points. My nitpick though is personally with him claiming he’s taken on ISIS. He’s been a private citizen since the fall of 2006. He’s desperate and I honestly don’t blame him since he was good enough to be the silver medalist in last time’s clown show, now he’s relegated to eating with George Pataki, Lindsay Graham, and Bobby Jindal at the table of misfit GOP toys.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:09:54am

re: #304 It’s on his hat!

Santorum has a lot more in common with ISIS than the average American, especially if you consider that the positions he takes publicly are merely a moderated, sanitized version of his actual views.

Indeed. The sexism, the homophobia, contempt for modernity and secularism, etc. He’s got more in common with them than any Democrat does.

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sagehen  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:10:04am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

And I have to add that for all the Brits faults, they did abolish slavery before we did.

That wasn’t entirely out of the goodness of their hearts; putting down slave rebellions in the Caribbean and other colonial territories would take a massive military effort, but those ships and troops were needed closer to home.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:11:30am

re: #309 sagehen

That wasn’t entirely out of the goodness of their hearts; putting down slave rebellions in the Caribbean and other colonial territories would take a massive military effort, but those ships and troops were needed closer to home.

Yeah very true point. I’m not fond of the British Empire but what do you expect from a Joyce-O’Malley-Conroy?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:12:55am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

True points. My nitpick though is personally with him claiming he’s taken on ISIS. He’s been a private citizen since the fall of 2006. He’s desperate and I honestly don’t blame him since he was good enough to be the silver medalist in last time’s clown show, now he’s relegated to eating with George Pataki, Lindsay Graham, and Bobby Jindal at the table of misfit GOP toys.

Oh, I agree with you on that. I was responding to the “Obama being interviewed by O’Reilly” part.

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:14:40am

re: #309 sagehen

That wasn’t entirely out of the goodness of their hearts; putting down slave rebellions in the Caribbean and other colonial territories would take a massive military effort, but those ships and troops were needed closer to home.

Not entirely, perhaps, but the British abolition movement (abolition of the slave trade, not slavery itself) and the sugar boycott were hugely influential. Bury the Chains is a really great book on the topic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:15:17am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Oh, I agree with you on that. I was responding to the “Obama being interviewed by O’Reilly” part.

Yeah I agree with you on that. These fundraiser letters are a written pep rally. Santorum’s a theocratic jackass but I won’t fault him here even though I think it’s laughable that he thinks he has won all that he claims.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:16:47am

re: #312 calochortus

Not entirely, perhaps, but the British abolition movement (abolition of the slave trade, not slavery itself) and the sugar boycott were hugely influential. Bury the Chains is a really great book on the topic.

One of my late grandmother’s favorite things to watch in her later years was a PBS Bill Moyers documentary about the history of Amazing Grace. Then there was that movie about William Wilberforce. The real guy of the antagonist from Mel GIbson’s The Patriot was in that. He was a huge supporter of the slave trade.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:16:55am

re: #304 It’s on his hat!

Santorum has a lot more in common with ISIS than the average American, especially if you consider that the positions he takes publicly are merely a moderated, sanitized version of his actual views.

ISIS and The Falange would get along well. Santorum is a perfect little Spanish type Fascist.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:17:25am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Of course he ignores that in a fundraising letter. Would Barack Obama give a speech at a fundraiser saying that Ted Cruz is skilled and effective in making an argument? no, he would not. Fundraising letters and speeches are intended to elicit a feeling of “Go team, GO!”. Nuance and a realistic look at the other side’s strength is not part how money is raised for political campaigns.

But seriously, dude - he ‘took on the ladies of The View?’ Really?

That’s weak for a ‘Go team’ fundraising letter. Santorum is a perpetual also-ran. I don’t know why he even bothers to go through this charade every four years.

You’d think he’d maybe take the hint after getting his nose rubbed in his own incompetence as a candidate again and again.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:18:09am

BBL

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:19:05am

Since we talked about the Move I have this tune going through my head now. This was probably their biggest song in America…at least I heard it a lot on FM radio here in Columbus while I was going to art college. I believe this was written by Jeff Lynn and the main voice is Roy Wood. I need to post it to listen and so I can get the ear worm out.

Do Ya!

The Move - Do Ya

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:20:10am

re: #316 makeitstop

But seriously, dude - he ‘took on the ladies of The View?’ Really?

That’s weak for a ‘Go team’ fundraising letter. Santorum is a perpetual also-ran. I don’t know why he even bothers to go through this charade every four years.

You’d think he’d maybe take the hint after getting his nose rubbed in his own incompetence as a candidate again and again.

Yeah bragging about taking on the women of the View is pretty weak sauce. Really sad stuff for a man that represented a competitive state like PA for two terms in the U.S Senate.,

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:20:44am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sample:

But the price to the little people that pay taxes … fuck them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:21:28am

History though is filled with contradictions. I mentioned WIlberforce. For all his support of the abolition of slavery, he wasn’t that sympathetic to workers in the rising industrial working class of Britain.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:21:29am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

It’s so hot and wet in Baja Alabama that they are actually re-scheduling HS football games. Got to get into the garden while there is a dry moment. Still bringing in eggplant, peppers and such in the first week of Nov. BBL

I’m happy to report I’m wearing my first beanie of the season. Its in the 50’s here!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:22:22am

re: #322 Stanley Sea Toujours

I’m happy to report I’m wearing my first beanie of the season. Its in the 50’s here!!

You need a beanie for 50 degree temps? Pfft. Just teasing. It’s pretty warm here still but it could be cold just as easily tomorrow because NOVA climate says fuck you that’s why.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:22:40am

re: #318 ObserverArt

Since we talked about the Move I have this tune going through my head now. This was probably their biggest song in America…at least I heard it a lot on FM radio here in Columbus while I was going to art college. I believe this was written by Jeff Lynn and the main voice is Roy Wood. I need to post it to listen and so I can get the ear worm out.

Do Ya!

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Their only charted tune in the US.

Lynne knew the value of that, and re-recorded it with ELO and finally had a hit with it..

Incidentally, our boy Todd Rundgren also did a pretty bang-up version of that songon ‘Another Live.’

Todd Rundgren’s Utopia - Do Ya

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:23:02am

re: #299 calochortus

Thirded.

4thd!! Congrats Steve!

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:23:56am

re: #165 Dr. Matt

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The aqueducts were just big bongs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:25:03am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

I thought his denomination frowned on alcohol use.

Jesus would turn the beer into soda pop

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:25:55am

re: #318 ObserverArt

Played the album on Youtube and got to that and then had to play the ELO version to vampire stake the earworm.

Downloaded the Tab too… ;)

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:28:07am

re: #249 William Lewis

I know a woman in Eau Claire, WI who is probably the best blues guitarist in the nation today. Period. But her stage fright is crippling and when she was making an attempt at a musical career her self destructive behavior was legendary. She’s living a much better, healthier life with her partner now and still an amazing blues performer. It’s just that almost no one will ever know it.

Would stage fright be an issue when recording a podcast? It could allow her to share her music with the world, without the stress of live performance. 40-60mg of citalopram a day would be another option. It’s excellent at wiping out anxiety.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:30:03am

I wonder what message H.W Bush is trying to send by criticizing W’s FP all the while Jeb has pretty much run that W’s FP was a good thing. Maybe it’s just H.W Bush trying to protect his son’s reputation but I do think W Bush’s presidency may have looked a little different for the better without Cheney and Rumsfeld.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:32:17am

re: #329 No Country For Old Haters

Would stage fright be an issue when recording a podcast? It could allow her to share her music with the world, without the stress of live performance. 40-60mg of citalopram a day would be another option. It’s excellent at wiping out anxiety.

I doubt she’ll change from where she is now. The relief in her attitude from where she is now as opposed to then? No, I’ll count myself as blessed that she performed for my wedding and not wish her anything harder than that was for her.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:32:18am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

The vision I don’t like is of tyrannical King George. It presents the false image that King George was an absolute monarch in the mold of the Bourbon, Hapsburg, or Romanov dynasties. I mean was he to blame sure but mid 18th century England domestically in England at least (not in Ireland since the penal laws still existed) was much more closer to what we had in the early years of the Republic than the above mentioned. And I have to add that for all the Brits faults, they did abolish slavery before we did.

And the very real complaint from London that “hey, we fought the French for you, so you need to contribute to help pay off our debts.” (Don’t tar and feather me.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:32:35am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

I wonder what message H.W Bush is trying to send by criticizing W’s FP all the while Jeb has pretty much run that W’s FP was a good thing. Maybe it’s just H.W Bush trying to protect his son’s reputation but I do think W Bush’s presidency may have looked a little different for the better without Cheney and Rumsfeld.

The Cheney/Rumsfeld Presidency might have looked a bit different if Dubya had played more than a passive role in it…

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:32:59am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

History though is filled with contradictions. I mentioned WIlberforce. For all his support of the abolition of slavery, he wasn’t that sympathetic to workers in the rising industrial working class of Britain.

What? You mean humans are complicated and imperfect?!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:33:52am

Have conservatives gone apeshit yet for the media vetting Ben Carson?

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:35:36am

Mr. C is away today. No one will ever know if I do wild and crazy things, so I’m going to make myself a second cup of coffee. Whee!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:35:41am

re: #335 Dr. Matt

Have conservatives gone apeshit yet for the media vetting Ben Carson?

WHY ARE MEDIA LOOKING AT HIS SPEECHES??? BIAS UNFAIR!!!! LAMESTREAM MEDIA!!!! LEAVE BEN ALOOOONE!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:35:43am

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

And the very real complaint from London that “hey, we fought the French for you, so you need to contribute to help pay off our debts.” (Don’t tar and feather me.)

Yeah not all the British’s gripes were illegitimate. The mistake they made was not allowing the colonists direct representation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:36:05am

re: #334 calochortus

What? You mean humans are complicated and imperfect?!

I do, shocker I know.

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:36:44am

re: #336 calochortus

Mr. C is away today. No one will ever know if I do wild and crazy things, so I’m going to make myself a second cup of coffee. Whee!

Careful. Don’t go overboard there captain.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:36:51am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Cheney/Rumsfeld Presidency might have looked a bit different if Dubya had played more than a passive role in it…

Well I was talking about if W hadn’t had Cheney as his running mate in the first place.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:36:56am

Trashing Trump: Latino Kids Pound Racism Like a Piñata

Trashing Trump: Latino Kids Pound Racism Like a Piñata

[warning: Some Language NSFW]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:37:07am

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

And the very real complaint from London that “hey, we fought the French for you, so you need to contribute to help pay off our debts.” (Don’t tar and feather me.)

The colonists were constantly encroaching on Indian territory and then summoning Crown troops to protect them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:37:41am

BEN CAN HAZ MOAR RAGEFARTS==>

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:38:46am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

Yeah not all the British’s gripes were illegitimate. The mistake they made was not allowing the colonists direct representation.

Kind of ironic given that the liberal position now in the US is that you can’t just send in the CIA to overthrow democratically-elected regimes you don’t like.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:39:14am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

“Tsunamis happen when Poseidon gets angry, or has a second helping on Taco Tuesday.” #BenCarsonFacts

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:39:56am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

The effort to “other” neurosurgeon Ben Carson as stupid and unscientific has reached tsunami levels. t.co
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 5, 2015

There is no “effort”. Ben is doing it all by himself.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:40:00am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

BEN CAN HAZ MOAR RAGEFARTS==>

I’m assuming there’s a picture, but I can’t see them at work. What “other”-ing is he talking about?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:40:14am

*lights desk on fire, flings it out the window*

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It's on his hat!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:40:15am

Fallout 4 - Launch Trailer

I’ll be absent from LGF for awhile starting in around five days. This will be why.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:40:35am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

BEN CAN HAZ MOAR RAGEFARTS==>

Hurr hurr doesn’t matter what Ben says or believes and HOW COME NO MEDIA VETTING OF OBAMA OR HRC????

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:41:02am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:41:09am

re: #340 iossarian

Careful. Don’t go overboard there captain.

I’ll be fine. Cup #2 will be decaf.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:42:14am

HURR HURR HEAR IS MOAR WISDUMBS FROM BEN’S BFF MILK YEAHIMADUMBASS

(sorry not embedding Milo’s tweet, you will have to click on it to see TEH DERPS)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:44:03am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

BEN CAN HAZ MOAR RAGEFARTS==>

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Well Ben, when Carson says something stupid and unintelligent he will be called that. He may be a brilliant neurosurgeon but nothing he has said indicates he understands anything else. I may have my BA in history but I don’t talk about chemistry as if I’m an expert in it. So as long as Carson keeps on saying stupid shit, people are going to call him uninteligent, you can stop crying about it. If you have had an issue, take it up with Dr. Carson, he’s the one saying this shit not his detractors.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:45:13am
Just a reminder for #JebBush.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:45:19am

re: #352 lawhawk

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It directly addresses his temperament and how he evaluates information outside his very narrow field of expertise.

Apparently, he doesn’t trust Science, which made his career possible, and instead substitutes the sturdy combination of ignorance and arrogance. I mean, even a brief study of the actual pyramids would destroy the thought that they might be used for grain storage, but he can’t be bothered to do that, instead accusing the people who have actually studied it of either lying, or being stupid.

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lizardofid  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:45:22am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

I wonder what message H.W Bush is trying to send by criticizing W’s FP all the while Jeb has pretty much run that W’s FP was a good thing. Maybe it’s just H.W Bush trying to protect his son’s reputation but I do think W Bush’s presidency may have looked a little different for the better without Cheney and Rumsfeld.

I think when I read the article this morning I saw where Bush the elder lamented, along with his comments on Cheney and Rumsfeld, about W’s harsh tone after 911, (ie: “axis of evil”) but that talking to his son about it “wasn’t in his nature” or some such. I can’t help but wonder if he had, would it have made a difference. Having myself been a son, who many times chose to ignore, what later proved to be very sound council, I know it’s not a sure thing.

Now, I’m off to the city. I hope everyone has a great day.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:48:05am

Reminder:

Carson’s own tax plan would likewise explode the deficit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:48:18am

re: #358 lizardofid

I think when I read the article this morning I saw where Bush the elder lamented, along with his comments on Cheney and Rumsfeld, about W’s harsh tone after 911, (ie: “axis of evil”) but that talking to his son about it “wasn’t in his nature” or some such. I can’t help but wonder if he had, would it have made a difference. Having myself been a son, who many times chose to ignore, what later proved to be very sound council, I know it’s not a sure thing.

Now, I’m off to the city. I hope everyone has a great day.

Yeah I’m not a father myself so I wondered aout that too.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:49:01am

re: #359 lawhawk

Reminder:

Carson’s own tax plan would likewise explode the deficit.

WHY ARE LIBTARDS TALKING ABOUT GOP TAX PLANS AND MONEY AND WHAT GOP SAYS STOP IT MEDIA BIAS!!!!

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:51:02am

re: #361 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WHY ARE LIBTARDS TALKING ABOUT GOP TAX PLANS AND MONEY AND WHAT GOP SAYS STOP IT MEDIA BIAS!!!!

Liberals also aren’t taking into account the accumulative effects tax cuts will have on the economy.

//

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:51:48am

re: #362 Belafon

Liberals also aren’t taking into account the accumulative effects tax cuts will have on the economy.

//

It will be YOOOOOGOE

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Snarknado!  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:52:33am

re: #353 calochortus

I’ll be fine. Cup #2 will be decaf.

What an adventurous life you lead.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:53:45am

re: #329 No Country For Old Haters

Would stage fright be an issue when recording a podcast? It could allow her to share her music with the world, without the stress of live performance. 40-60mg of citalopram a day would be another option. It’s excellent at wiping out anxiety.

That’ll keep ya going for the show.

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:54:01am

re: #364 Snarknado!

What an adventurous life you lead.

Simple pleasures. ;)

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:55:05am

re: #358 lizardofid

Repentance, especially when family is involved, is never an easy thing. There is a part of me that believes that GHWB is honestly ready to ask for forgiveness, both for this world and the next. But I do not think that GWB is - even though I think he knows he fucked the pooch really hard. JEB needs to be slapped harder than either of them and I pray that this election cycle does that though I fear it won’t be enough.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:55:28am

re: #366 calochortus

Simple pleasures. ;)

A full tank of gas.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:56:07am

re: #365 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That’ll keep ya going for the show.

upding for the pink floyd reference, especially since it’s from the best moments of the album.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:56:13am

re: #367 William Lewis

Repentance, especially when family is involved, is never an easy thing. There is a part of me that believes that GHWB is honestly ready to ask for forgiveness, both for this world and the next. But I do not think that GWB is - even though I think he knows he fucked the pooch really hard. JEB needs to be slapped harder than either of them and I pray that this election cycle does that though I fear it won’t be enough.

GWHB was no better or worse than most politicians of his time. But since retirement he has shown an unexpected degree of candor and even integrity.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:56:49am

re: #305 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Thanks. I was positive I failed. The first 15 questions just kicked my butt, but then I got questions I could handle. It’s called a “computer adaptive test” because it responds to whether you’re getting questions right or wrong. If you get them right it moves on. If you get them wrong, it comes back at you again on that topic. (They say it gives you another opportunity to get it right, but I guess it’s a matter of perspective.) Anyway, it has a minimum of 75 and a max of 265 questions. After 75, it evaluates whether you’re answering at a passing level (and stops), a failing level (and stops), or in between, and keeps going until you establish you can stay above passing level or can’t get above failing level. So after 75 questions I was so rattled by the beginning of the test that I was cringing everytime I hit “next”. Finally after 87 or so the test ended. The only thing that made me think I passes was the fact that the last question was a lollipop and I was certain I got it right. The people familiar with the test agreed that the test wouldn’t say you failed if the last question was correctly answered. The algorithm would say “pass”. It would stop on a wrong answer if the algorithm decided you were hopeless. THen I started wondering if I misread that last one, but finally my license showed up! Now I gotta get a suit.

Congrats. Have you discovered that you hate doctors yet? It took Mrs Deb RN several months after licensing.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:58:12am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

GWHB was no better or worse than most politicians of his time. But since retirement he has shown an unexpected degree of candor and even integrity.

You said the same upthread, and I agree. I’d say that right now is when he is ready to know that he did wrong before. His elder son is not ready and his younger son needs a swift kick in the ass as well.

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calochortus  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:58:47am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Now, now. My daughter is a doctor and she loves the nurses. Most of them anyway. I don’t think they hate her.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 5, 2015 • 8:58:56am

re: #350 It’s on his hat!

I’m eagerly awaiting the release of Assassin’s Creed that’s dropping this week. I already pre-purchased.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:00:00am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Congrats. Have you discovered that you hate doctors yet? It took Mrs Deb RN several months after licensing.

I’m married to one

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:00:04am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

You will learn soon that there are many doctors but they boil down to two kinds: those who listen and those who preach. Bitchslap the latter every chance you get.

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WhatEVs  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:00:58am

re: #145 darthstar

GHW Bush has just run out of fucks to give about either of his asshole sons.

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This from the Well, Duh! file.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:01:07am

re: #368 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

A full tank of gas.

and a shoeshine….

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:01:50am

re: #375 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m married to one

I’ll score that as a “Maybe”.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:02:20am

re: #376 William Lewis

I have a niece who went pretty much straight from nursing school to doctoring school, and I think she’s gonna be the preaching type. She’ll spend most of her time in an office I think and not much in a hospital.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:07:23am

re: #374 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m eagerly awaiting the release of Assassin’s Creed that’s dropping this week. I already pre-purchased.

So did I, despite promising myself I wouldn’t after the Unity fiasco.

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Lidane  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:07:31am

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:08:55am

re: #382 Lidane

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

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Yeah, I saw that, the breach is opened, not much chance of anything happening with that shotgun.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:09:54am

re: #380 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I have a niece who went pretty much straight from nursing school to doctoring school, and I think she’s gonna be the preaching type. She’ll spend most of her time in an office I think and not much in a hospital.

Pity she didn’t spend a few years on the floor first.

When I was active Army, we were always getting in new lieutenants. A small and utterly worthless number were from West Point. They were the worst and took the longest to train. The largest number were from those who went straight from basic to OCS. They didn’t have the years to pick up the bad habits of the West Point idiots but still were almost worthless as officers. In between in terms of numbers were those who served as enlisted soldiers and then as NCO’s and only THEN went to officer’s school. Those rare few were to be cherished: they understood what was meaningful and the mission and did not need anywhere near the training of the rest.

Someone who was a nurse for a number of years before getting her PRN or MD? Golden.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:09:55am

re: #382 Lidane

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

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Then you shouldn’t have a gun fuckwad.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:10:53am

re: #382 Lidane

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

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Can’t get too excited. That way of carrying a breech loading shotgun is common since it CAN NOT fire.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:10:54am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:11:11am

Am I the only one who thinks Cruz probably never actually shoots a gun but loves to pose with them to make himself look “manly” and “tough” to the GOP electorate who actually think this kind of thing makes a candidate endearing? I’ve known hunters and Cruz just looks as fake as fake can be to me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:11:55am

re: #387 Dave In Austin

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“Hey, pharaoh, you want this guy.”

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:12:24am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Am I the only one who thinks Cruz probably never actually shoots a gun but loves to pose with them to make himself look “manly” and “tough” to the GOP electorate who actually think this kind of thing makes a candidate endearing? I’ve known hunters and Cruz just looks as fake as fake can be to me.

Oh, I’ll agree here but that picture was not one of those issues. The breech was open and no shells were in it. That’s as safe as it gets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:13:28am

re: #372 William Lewis

You said the same upthread, and I agree. I’d say that right now is when he is ready to know that he did wrong before. His elder son is not ready and his younger son needs a swift kick in the ass as well.

That is an interesting take on his motivations.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:15:40am

re: #382 Lidane

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

This is exactly what it looks like when people handle firearms that have no business handling firearms. Just think, there are tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of fellow Americans just like him.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:18:21am

re: Cruz, the hunter: I can’t get worked up by what looks like safe practice, but my god, that face…..

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:19:31am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:22:18am

re: #390 William Lewis

Oh, I’ll agree here but that picture was not one of those issues. The breech was open and no shells were in it. That’s as safe as it gets.

I actually made that comment heh before yours. Fair point. It’s more his body language and attitude though.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:22:54am

re: #394 The Vicious Babushka

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WTF.

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iossarian  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:25:09am

If Ted Cruz didn’t have a minuscule dick and an equally minuscule chance of becoming president, he would not need to wave a gun around in a video.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:26:02am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

I actually made that comment heh before yours. Fair point. It’s more his body language and attitude though.

It’s a complete breach of firearm etiquette/safety to point a barrel at anyone (even if the barrel is filled with cement). Below is a gif; as Cruz carelessly shoulders his weapon, he points the working end of the barrel at two people behind him. In the military, that weapon would have be snatched out of his possession in a heartbeat and not returned until he received remedial training.

Image: S6C0fa.gif

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:27:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:31:23am

re: #398 Dr. Matt

It’s a complete breach of firearm etiquette/safety to point a barrel at anyone (even if the barrel is filled with cement). Below is a gif; as Cruz carelessly shoulders his weapon, he points the working end of the barrel at two people behind him. In the military, that weapon would have be snatched out of his possession in a heartbeat and not returned until he received remedial training.

Image: S6C0fa.gif

Gotcha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:32:30am

re: #398 Dr. Matt

right up there with “presume every gun is always loaded”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:32:46am

re: #393 Barefoot Grin

re: Cruz, the hunter: I can’t get worked up by what looks like safe practice, but my god, that face…..

That smug grin that just oozes asshole.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:33:18am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

No, just joking. I figured it was so over-the-top that it didn’t need a /sarc tag.

My post was meant as a compliment that you could say such things without your brain being taken over by the crazy.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:37:48am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d love to know their codenames.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:37:52am

re: #394 The Vicious Babushka

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One. Sick. Freak.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:38:38am

Proof pyramids were used to store grain, FYI, they stored it on the bottom floor.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:40:11am

re: #406 gocart mozart

Proof pyramids were used to store grain, FYI, they stored it on the bottom floor.

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The pharaoh’s candy stash. Next on Ancient Mummies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:41:24am
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Bubblehead II  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:42:17am

re: #382 Lidane

Gun Safety 101 with Sen. Ted Cruz:

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Actually, while the optics look bad, he is actually carrying it safely. That shotgun is an over/under breach loader that is broke open with no shells in the chamber.

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Tigger2  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:50:13am

re: #392 Dr. Matt

This is exactly what it looks like when people handle firearms that have no business handling firearms. Just think, there are tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of fellow Americans just like him.

Anytime I hunted squirrels with my 22 or rabbits with my shotgun the barrel was always pointed down, but it was pointed up when I hunted deer with my black powder rifle because I didn’t want the slug to accidentally slide down my barrel if it was pointed down.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:51:33am

g’night all. Gotta work tonight so it’s sleepy time.

Later.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:53:06am

re: #350 It’s on his hat!

I’ll be absent from LGF for awhile starting in around five days. This will be why.

My supervisor wasn’t at all impressed with the idea that I needed serious time away from my desk to deeply study this item. She’s normally quite reasonable.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:54:05am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

Secret Service protection authorized for Donald Trump and Ben Carson, CNN has confirmed.

Now, if someone would just give them a heart and a brain.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:54:11am

re: #406 gocart mozart

Proof pyramids were used to store grain, FYI, they stored it on the bottom floor.

Wasn’t the grain, and other goods, placed there for the afterlife?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:56:32am

re: #414 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t the grain, and other goods, placed there for the afterlife?

They loaded slaves in there too.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:57:13am

On the bright side, I checked over at Freeperville regarding Carson’s fatuous comments regarding the pyramids, and they seem to be having none of it.

The first reply genuinely made me laugh.

freerepublic.com

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:58:13am

Carson responds to the ridicule sent his way on the pyramid nonsense:

Secular progressives are welcome to ridicule.

Thanks for the invite, except I’m not secular. And Trump isn’t progressive. He ridiculed it too. In fact, scientists and archaeologists ridicule it too.

And the bible would seem to disagree with that theory too. Especially since the bible speaks of the Hebrews building cities to store grain, not pyramids.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:58:16am

re: #414 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t the grain, and other goods, placed there for the afterlife?

Except for the gefilte fish. That was just the workmen’s lunch.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 9:58:36am

Anyone remember in the old Civilization games building the Pyramids wonder would give you a granary in every city?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:00:15am

re: #417 lawhawk

Carson responds to the ridicule sent his way on the pyramid nonsense:

[Embedded content]

Secular progressives are welcome to ridicule.

Thanks for the invite, except I’m not secular. And Trump isn’t progressive. He ridiculed it too. In fact, scientists and archaeologists ridicule it too.

And the bible would seem to disagree with that theory too. Especially since the bible speaks of the Hebrews building cities to store grain, not pyramids.

“Secular progressives.” Uh no Ben, try anyone who actually has studied the actual history of Egypt. You’e gonna need a bigger hole.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:02:06am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

On the bright side, I checked over at Freeperville regarding Carson’s fatuous comments regarding the pyramids, and they seem to be having none of it.

The first reply genuinely made me laugh.

freerepublic.com

WTF? I got distracted by the woman carrying a M1919 around. Is she going to fire that thing a la John Basilone and burn the shit out of her hand?

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Tigger2  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:02:30am

re: #417 lawhawk

Carson responds to the ridicule sent his way on the pyramid nonsense:

[Embedded content]

Secular progressives are welcome to ridicule.

Thanks for the invite, except I’m not secular. And Trump isn’t progressive. He ridiculed it too. In fact, scientists and archaeologists ridicule it too.

And the bible would seem to disagree with that theory too. Especially since the bible speaks of the Hebrews building cities to store grain, not pyramids.

So I guess Carson also thinks this is a cheese factory.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:02:36am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

“Secular progressives.” Uh no Ben, try anyone who actually has studied the actual history of Egypt. You’e gonna need a bigger hole.

Denial - well, it is a river in Egypt. #BenCarsonFacts

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:06:05am

re: #422 Tigger2

So I guess Carson also thinks this is a cheese factory.

Embedded Image

Well according to my grandfather, it was made of Swiss cheese.

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Tigger2  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:07:02am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

Well according to my grandfather, it was made of Swiss cheese.

No comment. lol

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:07:13am

re: #394 The Vicious Babushka

Kevin Swanson

Wait, I think I see the problem here…..

427
Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:07:51am

re: #426 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Wait, I think I see the problem here…..

#KevinSwansonFacts

428
HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:08:02am

re: #425 Tigger2

No comment. lol

I always preferred Pepper Jack myself.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:08:35am

re: #427 Dr. Matt

#KevinSwansonFacts

God let genocide happen because genocide is preferable to racial and religious harmony.
Swanny facts.

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Tigger2  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:09:21am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

I always preferred Pepper Jack myself.

I remember people telling me the moon was made of cheese when I was little.

431
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:10:45am

Oooohhh, I now has the heart thing on my Twitters….

#abouttime

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Tigger2  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:11:12am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

I always preferred Pepper Jack myself.

I like colby.

433
Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:11:38am

re: #431 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oooohhh, I now has the heart thing on my Twitters….

#abouttime

I just noticed that yesterday. When did this happen?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:15:35am

re: #433 Dr. Matt

I just noticed that yesterday. When did this happen?

started a few days ago for some users.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:17:12am

Someone actually edited the Egyptian Pyramid Wiki page to state:

“The Egyptian pyramids are ancient pyramid-shaped masonry structures located in Egypt that were built to hold to grains”

HAHAHA #BenCarsonFacts
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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:17:28am

re: #431 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And note too that it has a little animation when you click on it. It kinda explodes or something in a little display of fireworks when you click on it.

437
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:18:04am

re: #436 lawhawk

And note too that it has a little animation when you click on it. It kinda explodes or something in a little display of fireworks when you click on it.

yeah its pretty special

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:18:55am

Dumbest brain surgeon ever.

Of course to wingnut cultists like Carson, everyone who can see through their absurd, beliefs is a tricksy secular progressive.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:19:12am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:19:23am

re: #435 Dr. Matt

Someone actually edited the Egyptian Pyramid Wiki page to state:

[Embedded content]

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Khal Wimpo  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:20:51am

re: #249 William Lewis

I know a woman in Eau Claire, WI who is probably the best blues guitarist in the nation today. Period. But her stage fright is crippling and when she was making an attempt at a musical career her self destructive behavior was legendary. She’s living a much better, healthier life with her partner now and still an amazing blues performer. It’s just that almost no one will ever know it.

Does she ever play down at the Joynt? (Probably not even there anymore, like the late, lamented Camaraderie… been so long since I’ve been in EC)

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:21:17am

re: #404 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’d love to know their codenames.

Tribble and Pharaoh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:23:43am
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:44:09am

re: #417 lawhawk

Carson responds to the ridicule sent his way on the pyramid nonsense:

[Embedded content]

Secular progressives are welcome to ridicule.

Thanks for the invite, except I’m not secular. And Trump isn’t progressive. He ridiculed it too. In fact, scientists and archaeologists ridicule it too.

And the bible would seem to disagree with that theory too. Especially since the bible speaks of the Hebrews building cities to store grain, not pyramids.

They are all in the pocket of “Big Secular” and the “Dead Pharaohs Lobby”. Here is a pretty good piece from Skeptoid that goes into the who “Who was where, when?” thing.

skeptoid.com

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dharmamark  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:45:11am

He’s sooooo wrong.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:47:36am

re: #445 dharmamark

Embedded Image

He’s sooooo wrong.

Jaffa kree!

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:49:35am

Mr.fusion,

Actually for Ben Carson it of course cannot be aliens, since aliens would mean that there’s more to the universe than what’s in the Bible.

Oh and off course it be the real reason why they built the pyramids, you know as tombs for their pharaohs, since that doesn’t back up the story of Joseph.

Real history is evil because it doesn’t support the Bible, and only trying to pass off good “Christian” fantasies as real acceptable to him. Reality and everyone else’s fantasies can go to Hell.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 5, 2015 • 10:51:15am

re: #445 dharmamark

Hey aliens, how dare you insult good “Christians” like Ben Carson by existing and not being in the Bible, much like the Native Americans!

449
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 5, 2015 • 11:39:12am

re: #381 Timothy Watson

So did I, despite promising myself I wouldn’t after the Unity fiasco.

Well if this one turns into a fiasco like that release did I will happily take more free games from Ubisoft.

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retired cynic  Nov 5, 2015 • 11:51:11am

re: #417 lawhawk

Carson responds to the ridicule sent his way on the pyramid nonsense:

[Embedded content]

Secular progressives are welcome to ridicule.

Thanks for the invite, except I’m not secular. And Trump isn’t progressive. He ridiculed it too. In fact, scientists and archaeologists ridicule it too.

And the bible would seem to disagree with that theory too. Especially since the bible speaks of the Hebrews building cities to store grain, not pyramids.

Surely someone should take him there on a tour. (And possibly leave him in there?) I would love to see it come up at the next debate, and see how other candidates handle it. Do they support him in his spectacular ignorance and hubris, or do they say something that might anger his supporters?

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Nyet  Nov 5, 2015 • 11:53:24am

Would you let this guy anywhere near your brain?

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retired cynic  Nov 5, 2015 • 11:55:28am

re: #451 Nyet

Would you let this guy anywhere near your brain?

Absolutely not.

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Ojoe  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:20:19pm

As an architect, I must say that Carson’s theory is bonkers.

The pyramids attract all sorts of coo-coo theories, though, and some of them are fun.

I read a writer who said the name “Pyramid” meant “Fire inside,” i.e. Pyro = fire, amid = in the center or middle.

Too much fun !

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Ojoe  Nov 5, 2015 • 5:26:07pm

Heavy lifting with kites
Kite Obelisk Project @ Cal-Tech EDU

Some think wind lift helped build the pyramids. It could be.


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