Democratic Presidential Candidates Forum | MSNBC
If the embedded video above doesn’t work for you, try watching it at the MSNBC site.
Bernie Sanders is really impressive tonight.
really, really impressed with Bernie. I’ll still vote for Hillary because I just don’t think Bernie could garner enough states to pull it off, but I’d be delighted if he wound up as vice president.
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Why didn’t anyone ask him if he would release his college transcripts? Why won’t Ben Carson release his college transcripts! Nixon, Reagan and Bush (both) never released their college transcripts. What were they hiding?!!!!!!!!! What is FERPA? registrar.psu.edu
Who is Jeremiah Wright, I have never heard of him because the media has never mentioned him but if Ben is agreeing to put his pastors religious/political beliefs into play, I say bring it on.
Frank Marshal Davis! I know who he is referring to because Obama mentions him (under an alias) in his book “Dreams From My Father” not written by Bill Ayers: a poet retired in Hawaii who knew Obama’s grandfather and who was a leftist (Ooooh!) Obama mentions discussions he had with him about race relations a couple of times over beers. (That Bastard)
Fuck Ben Carson with a rusty chainsaw twice. Sideways.
All I get is the loading wheel. Do we need cable for the feed?
Hillary may win but thank the good Lord for Bernie being there saying what needs to be said and keeping HRC at least tethered to listening to opinions of the left.
re: #4 Amory Blaine
All I get is the loading wheel. Do we need cable for the feed?
No, you shouldn’t need a cable account. Try reloading. It’s working on this end.
re: #5 b.d.
Bernie has made Hillary better. He won’t win in the end but he deserves a big speech at the convention and Hillary should pick someone like Sharrod Brown as VEEP to get the Bernie vote.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
No, you shouldn’t need a cable account. Try reloading. It’s working on this end.
FWIW, I got this message at the top of my window:
Still not working, I blame the liberal media.
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re: #13 Amory Blaine
I was going to but then I found Jesus.
re: #8 gocart mozart
Bernie has made Hillary better. He won’t win in the end but he deserves a big speech at the convention and Hillary should pick someone like Sharrod Brown as VEEP to get the Bernie vote.
In the end I think that HRC would thank Sanders for making her stay grounded in a primary fight, otherwise she would already have to be answering to wingnut “policy” ideas
Here’s a direct link to the MSNBC page: msnbc.com
There seems to be some kind of DRM issue; maybe it does require a cable account after all.
The cable networks saw the huge turnouts for the first GOP debate and now they all want their piece of the pie.
(The MSNBC page does have an embed link, by the way.)
re: #21 Charles Johnson
Does it work in a comment?
Not for me. It works fine at the direct MSNBC link. Chrome Version 46.0.2490.80 m
re: #1 Charles Johnson
Bernie Sanders is really impressive tonight.
Each of them has been impressive. I expect Webb will make me eat my words.
re: #24 Major Tom
Webb dropped out, nobody noticed.
Yeah, I just tested it in Chrome and Firefox and got the eternal loading wheel. Very frustrating - if MSNBC is going to restrict viewing to cable account holders they should say so, instead of having an embed link that doesn’t work.
Kind of bummed I missed Bernie Sanders’ interview. Hopefully it’ll be uploaded somewhere sometime.
re: #25 gocart mozart
Shit. It’s true. I missed it.
Ben Carson has yet another problem with the self-aggrandizing stories he’s told: Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions.
The day after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed in 1968, Ben Carson’s black classmates unleashed their anger and grief on white students who were a minority at Detroit’s Southwestern High.
Mr. Carson, then a junior with a key to a biology lab where he worked part time, told The Wall Street Journal last month that he protected a few white students from the attacks by hiding them there.
It is a dramatic account of courage and kindness, and it couldn’t be confirmed in interviews with a half-dozen of Mr. Carson’s classmates and his high school physics teacher. The students all remembered the riot. None recalled hearing about white students hiding in the biology lab, and Mr. Carson couldn’t remember any names of those he sheltered.
“It may have happened, but I didn’t see it myself or hear about it,” said Gregory Vartanian, a white classmate of Mr. Carson’s who served in the ROTC with Mr. Carson and is now a retired U.S. Marshal.
Not to be sexist superficial and shallow, but, she looks good.
re: #29 Charles Johnson
Ben Carson has yet another problem with the self-aggrandizing stories he’s told: Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions.
The base will defend him by saying “So what if he can’t remember names and nobody remembers it happening! It happened, so there!”
re: #26 Charles Johnson
I got the video to work on Firefox, but Chrome doesn’t do MSNBC on my old Mac.
Yet Cox is playing with my connection still. I’m way below my monthly limit but for some reason my bandwidth gets restricted during parts of the day.
Take that lamestream media @daveweigel pic.twitter.com/DUVsknWh0K
— Max Burns (@themaxburns) November 7, 2015
re: #29 Charles Johnson
Has anyone checked with Johns Hopkins to confirm @RealBenCarson actually worked there? At this point, we may want to.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2015
Oh shit…Hillary just said cops shouldn’t revert to gunfire as the first and only resort for every situation.
The cop groups are going to fucking flip a lid.
re: #18 Charles Johnson
Here’s a direct link to the MSNBC page: msnbc.com
There seems to be some kind of DRM issue; maybe it does require a cable account after all.
The cable networks saw the huge turnouts for the first GOP debate and now they all want their piece of the pie.
News channels should not be putting DRM on their feeds…
re: #35 Ace-o-aces
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Somebody said that he could work at Johns Hopkins, that’s good enough
re: #36 Aunty Entity Dragon
Oh shit…Hillary just said cops shouldn’t revert to gunfire as the first and only resort for every situation.
The cop groups are going to fucking flip a lid.
Great White Snark put a page up related to that, 2015 is turning out to be one of the safest on record for police.
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This Carson story: No class existed that he described and no college pic he says happened https://t.co/IFnaxc0VbL pic.twitter.com/1GkG4Nwfyg
— Reid J. Epstein (@reidepstein) November 7, 2015
re: #40 FormerDirtDart
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Well if you limit your autobiography just to things that “actually” happened, how interesting would that be.
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re: #40 FormerDirtDart
Wow. The unraveling speeds up.
re: #36 Aunty Entity Dragon
Oh shit…Hillary just said cops shouldn’t revert to gunfire as the first and only resort for every situation.
The cop groups are going to fucking flip a lid.
Make them all go back to Model 10’s. AND be properly trained in it’s use.
I”m getting it direct from MSNBC, but it’s pausing and buffering a lot.
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Carson Zombie: “GRAINS! Must have GRAINS!” https://t.co/tDDXzAXvjJ
— Billmon (@billmon1) November 7, 2015
re: #36 Aunty Entity Dragon
Oh shit…Hillary just said cops shouldn’t revert to gunfire as the first and only resort for every situation.
The cop groups are going to fucking flip a lid.
Pat Lynch of the NYPBA and the fucks over at PoliceOne are probably cursing Hillary in the same breath as NWA, Ice-T, and BLM by this point.
re: #36 Aunty Entity Dragon
Oh shit…Hillary just said cops shouldn’t revert to gunfire as the first and only resort for every situation.
The cop groups are going to fucking flip a lid.
SPITBALLS?!
Scott Walker asks supporters for help in paying off campaign debt
Facing an estimated $1 million in debt from his failed presidential campaign, Gov. Scott Walker is now soliciting donations to pay it off.
“As things changed dramatically in the presidential race, ‘Walker for America’ incurred a campaign debt and it is my hope that you and all of our supporters will chip in and make an online contribution of $10, $35, $50, $100, $250, or more so we can end this campaign in the black,” Walker wrote in a fundraising email sent this week. “It is a lot to ask, I know, but we feel personally obligated to make sure that every small business that extended us their good faith and credit is repaid.”
re: #40 FormerDirtDart
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It’s starting to sound a lot like he’s another Jayson Blair.
re: #49 Amory Blaine
He should just ask his parents for a loan
Wakka Wakka Wakka!
Here are the rejected SNL promos written by Trump and his staff for #TrumpOnSNL https://t.co/Z25PwYLdty pic.twitter.com/G63ZSJBEFU
— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) November 7, 2015
So this came across one of the various feeds I’m keeping eyes upon. Dunno how to value it yet tho…
Why amazon isn’t a ******* idiot and runs a deficit
re: #54 Targetpractice
Are we even sure his name really is “Ben Carson”?
How do we even know that he’s Human? I swear I saw a nictitating membrane flash across his eyes at one moment when he got angry. And I’m pretty sure I saw him catch a fly out of thin air with his tongue.
RBS
I haven’t done half the stuff Ben Carson claims to have done.Well, I missed most of that. MSNBC just isn’t easy for me as a connection. NBCU doesn’t do the internet as well as some of their competitors, I think.
Regarding this whole election thing - I am totally convinced that my fellow Americans are really messing up by not getting out and voting. Low voter turnout is undermining the basic principles of our nation state.
That’s why crazy wingnuts get elected, among other undesirables. That’s why that Houston ordinance passed. And so on.
Okay, so someone posted this in an entirely unrelated channel. Please be advised it may be disturbing.
re: #54 Targetpractice
Are we even sure his name really is “Ben Carson”?
His name anagrams into Scan Boner. Proof that he’s secretly a sleeper agent of the liberal gay agenda put into place to make the conservative movement look stupid.
Seriously. In another month (if not sooner), they will be saying Carson was a plant. (and that’s a bit insulting to my aloe plant, which doesn’t think the pyramids were a grain elevator)
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re: #66 b.d.
Ben Carson once caught a fish l—————————————this————————————I big.
No cheating by pressing <ctrl><+>!
What gets me is that the two outlets for the latest scrutiny of Carson’s BS are Politico and WSJ, folks who have done a great deal in recent years to cover up the prion disease that has reduced the GOP’s collective mind to mush. Even the establishment rags are beginning to acknowledge that this guy is bad news for the party if he wins the nomination.
In case you’ve got some extra popcorn lying around:
‘You’re a Hack!’ O’Reilly Explodes at George Will for Attacking His ‘No-Facts Zone’ Book https://t.co/CqkHXVP9dU pic.twitter.com/W2jIYLCJLT
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 7, 2015
TV cowboy and RWNJ sheriff shares some more of his deep thoughts.
David Clarke tops himself with latest tirade
Just when you thought Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. couldn’t top himself, he goes out and does this.
In a podcast on a conservative website, Clarke said African-Americans end up dealing drugs because they are “lazy” and “morally bankrupt.”
“Let me tell you why blacks sell drugs and involve themselves in criminal behavior instead of a more socially acceptable lifestyle — because they’re uneducated, they’re lazy, and they’re morally bankrupt,” Clarke said. “That’s why.”
This latest tirade punctuates a run of extreme and attention-grabbing comments.
The Democratic Candidates Forum was very worth watching, but when they cut away to Chris Matthews and the chattering panel … click.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
And to be clear, I actually like some of those panelists when they aren’t being pressured to come up with hot takes.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
Imagine how much better US politics would be if the media didn’t follow up every major event with a freaking Cat 7 storm of glossolalia.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
Another in a long line of reasons why I will never root for the Dallas Cowboys, under a spoiler tag as a trigger warning:
This is why NFL star Greg Hardy was arrested for assaulting his ex-girlfriend https://t.co/8OZijp2R6F pic.twitter.com/pj3NAo4nrd
— Deadspin (@Deadspin) November 6, 2015
And of course, this asshole:
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones releases statement supporting Greg Hardy: https://t.co/cUesPmcVcB
— Deadspin (@Deadspin) November 7, 2015
Am able to watch the replay that is now on MSNBC of this forum.
What is O’Malley’s end game? Shouldn’t he be out looking for a job or is that what he is doing?
re: #72 Lidane
Another in a long line of reasons why I will never root for the Dallas Cowboys, under a spoiler tag as a trigger warning:
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And of course, this asshole:
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I live in DFW and have totally had it with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones.
I was fed up with Jones many years ago but the last 5 games have shown that the team relies on only one player and that is just asinine. I never accepted the wink, wink when it came to Hardy. It is really, really hard for me to say that his is the last straw but…
re: #69 Lidane
In case you’ve got some extra popcorn lying around:
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It’s the classic Triceratops vs. Stegosaurus.
re: #70 Amory Blaine
Selling drugs is a business, a very competitive one. It’s not a job for a dummy or a lazy SOB, who would probably be the first to be caught or dead.
re: #70 Amory Blaine
TV cowboy and RWNJ sheriff shares some more of his deep thoughts.
Jesus Christ. Guy seems to be a living Clayton Bigsby.
re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Selling drugs is a business, a very competitive one. It’s not a job for a dummy or a lazy SOB, who would probably be the first to be caught or dead.
Yeah. Drug dealing isn’t “lazy” or for the stupid. The sheriff is an idiot.
re: #74 b.d.
I live in DFW and have totally had it with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones.
I was fed up with Jones many years ago but the last 5 games have shown that the team relies on only one player and that is just asinine. I never accepted the wink, wink when it came to Hardy. It is really, really hard for me to say that his is the last straw but…
I have never liked Jerry Jones. I’ve despised him with the fire of a thousand suns ever since he fired Coach Landry. He treated a fucking legend like a temp that stole office supplies. The years since have only proven I was right.
Fuck Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys sideways.
re: #69 Lidane
Well, it’s about time SOMEBODY said it. Just surprised it was Bill-O. @Mediaite
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) November 7, 2015
re: #77 HappyWarrior
Jesus Christ. Guy seems to be a living Clayton Bigsby.
Except Clarke isn’t blind and he knows what color he is.
Well gang, I’m outta here for the evening. I REALLY wanted a soda this evening, and don’t have any. Not even any of the flavor straws to pour into a water bottle. Oh well /first_world_problems
RBS
re: #79 Lidane
I have never liked Jerry Jones. I’ve despised him with the fire of a thousand suns ever since he fired Coach Landry. He treated a fucking legend like a temp that stole office supplies. The years since have only proven I was right.
Fuck Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys sideways.
I grew up in Austin and the Oilers were my team, another story. I moved to DFW in 1990 right when Jerry bought the team and kicked a living legend to the curb bit a lot of that was forgiven here when he took the team to Superbowls but that was many, many years ago.
The brand that Jerry owns is the most valuable in sports but there are people who can drive legally now that have never seen a good Cowboys team.
Too much?
..@Crell Trumps bodyguards were not available.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) November 7, 2015
Sorry expected the image to come through with the tweet embed. So started it over.
Your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day. “Quit bitching. God wants me to do this.” pic.twitter.com/b0zY5FfZV8
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
re: #68 Targetpractice
What gets me is that the two outlets for the latest scrutiny of Carson’s BS are Politico and WSJ, folks who have done a great deal in recent years to cover up the prion disease that has reduced the GOP’s collective mind to mush. Even the establishment rags are beginning to acknowledge that this guy is bad news for the party if he wins the nomination.
Which of course is why I’d like Carson to win the nomination. I think the only GOP candidate who is a real threat is Rubio.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
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re: #87 Charles Johnson
“…greatest country on the history of the earth.” He’s such an effective wordsmith.
re: #85 b.d.
I grew up in Austin and the Oilers were my team, another story. I moved to DFW in 1990 right when Jerry bought the team and kicked a living legend to the curb bit a lot of that was forgiven here when he took the team to Superbowls but that was many, many years ago.
The brand that Jerry owns is the most valuable in sports but there are people who can drive legally now that have never seen a good Cowboys team.
My mom’s orthopedic surgeon when I was a kid worked with the Cowboys. He even gave us Super Bowl tickets one year. I still remember the game — Cowboys vs. Steelers in Miami. I was a fan growing up, even after we moved to Houston.
Landry got fired when I was in high school. I’ve never forgiven Jerry Jones for it. And the Oilers were never an option because Bud Adams was just as much of an asshole as Jones. Pfft.
re: #69 Lidane
In case you’ve got some extra popcorn lying around:
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And in the “it takes one to know one” category…
re: #91 Lidane
My mom’s orthopedic surgeon when I was a kid worked with the Cowboys. He even gave us Super Bowl tickets one year. I still remember the game — Cowboys vs. Steelers in Miami. I was a fan growing up, even after we moved to Houston.
Landry got fired when I was in high school. I’ve never forgiven Jerry Jones for it. And the Oilers were never an option because Bud Adams was just as much of an asshole as Jones. Pfft.
Earl Left, Earl Right and Earl up the Middle.
I loved Bum Phillips and the Luv ‘ya blue
Love the drunk lady singing next to the mike
:)
re: #91 Lidane
The Cowboys used to have their summer training camp in my hometown, many of them would come to our church, including coach Landry.
re: #93 b.d.
Earl Left, Earl Right and Earl up the Middle.
I loved Bum Phillips and the Luv ‘ya blue
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Love the drunk lady singing next to the mike
:)
That was the rally after them losing the AFC Championship game
In the category of asshole owners, the Redskins newest argument for keeping the name is that the government can’t take their trademark away just because it’s offensive (Daily Kos link):
There are extraordinary free speech principles at issue far beyond the
Redskins trademarks. Cancelling a registration based on the government’s disapproval of a trademark discriminates against speech based on content and viewpoint. The District Court nonetheless declared the PTO’s action exempt from any First Amendment scrutiny because registered trademarks are all “government
speech” and registration is a government subsidy “program.” […]
They try to argue that a trademark is equivalent to a book and is protected speech.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
Voices in his head are speaking to him again
@Green_Footballs floor shitting is a trait, not a talent.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) November 7, 2015
re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
And if you fuck up, you can’t declare bankruptcy.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
That guy is SO tweaking, it’s not even amusing.
As long as I’m in Texas, might as well check out some of the most legendary sights. @… https://t.co/5hB9DkKD1b
— Mike Burkett (@FatMike_of_NOFX) November 7, 2015
Watching this Maddow forum I can see Bernie straining to preach to his crowd but I don’t see him trying to bring new folks into the fold?
re: #49 Amory Blaine
Scott Walker asks supporters for help in paying off campaign debt
Jeb! has good advice for him - work longer hours.
Is there some scenario people worry about in which Congress passes tough anti-gun laws that President Sanders vetoes? I don’t get it.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 7, 2015
I think that the only thing PBO has done regarding gun rights is expanding them by letting them into National Parks>
re: #91 Lidane
My mom’s orthopedic surgeon when I was a kid worked with the Cowboys. He even gave us Super Bowl tickets one year. I still remember the game — Cowboys vs. Steelers in Miami. I was a fan growing up, even after we moved to Houston.
Landry got fired when I was in high school. I’ve never forgiven Jerry Jones for it. And the Oilers were never an option because Bud Adams was just as much of an asshole as Jones. Pfft.
Once you realize how many of the men involved in football are assholes, it’s really easy to just quit watching the game forever.
And kids what did we learn today?
True beauty of this story is that both Carson and Politico manage to sustain real reputational damage https://t.co/CKlQTnDLeU
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 7, 2015
re: #104 b.d.
Is there some scenario people worry about in which Congress passes tough anti-gun laws that President Sanders vetoes? I don’t get it.
In logic, if the first clause is false, it doesn’t matter what the second clause is.
Edit: On the other hand, if you’re a single issue voter, you might wonder what President Sanders would do.
Somebody was glad that Ben provided a diversion for today;
WATCH: Carly Fiorina doesn’t correct man who calls Pres. Obama a “black Muslim” https://t.co/SpP4QQqBri https://t.co/6qR9dQJNzA
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) November 6, 2015
What kind of troglodytes are picking the person to run on one of the two tickets?
Is it just me, or did this week’s politics leave anyone else just completely shellshocked?
This is not the civics I learned about growing up.
re: #109 ipsos
Is it just me, or did this week’s politics leave anyone else just completely shellshocked?
This is not the civics I learned about growing up.
Think of it as something similar to pigs at a trough of slops or a flock of jays at a full bird feeder. There are a few statesmen and people trying to be leaders, but the vast majority are politicians trying to fill their bellies with money, power, and the feeling of self-importance. And they seem to have lost their regard about who or what they trample underfoot to get there.
Pinyon Jay squawkfestre: #109 ipsos
Is it just me, or did this week’s politics leave anyone else just completely shellshocked?
This is not the civics I learned about growing up.
What I’ve learned this week.
GOP candidates can say anything at all, whether it be based in reality or not, but if HRC says that she was on a conference call at 10:30 and it didn’t start until 10:40 then there must be congressional inquiries.
@HonkyTonkJew Fuck off, you moron.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
If President Obama had massaged his resume as much as Dr. Ben, Boehner would have shipped him off to GITMO years ago.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
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So Ginger Snapped now believes he’s Joliet Jake Blues receiving the mission from God.
I stand by my prediction that within a couple years, Ginger Snapped will be on SSI, pushing a cart around Skid Row in Downtown Los Angeles and he’ll continually get tossed out of the missions due to his insane ranting…
I guess someone finally got around to “officially” watching the dashcam footage
2 Louisiana Officers Charged With Murder in Death of 6-Year-Old https://t.co/m6gKng5aFO
— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 7, 2015
The Louisiana State Police arrested two police officers on Friday on charges of second-degree murder in the shooting of a 6-year-old boy during a pursuit of his father in an S.U.V.
The officers, Norris Greenhouse Jr. and Derrick Stafford, originally placed on administrative leave after the chase on Tuesday, each also faced attempted second-degree murder, Col. Michael Edmonson, superintendent of the State Police, said in a news conference Friday.
The father, Chris Few, who was driving, was left critically wounded. Mr. Few’s son, Jeremy Mardis, was killed after the police opened fire.
re: #115 Joe Bacon
So Ginger Snapped now believes he’s Joliet Jake Blues receiving the mission from God.
I stand by my prediction that within a couple years, Ginger Snapped will be on SSI, pushing a cart around Skid Row in Downtown Los Angeles and he’ll continually get tossed out of the missions due to his insane ranting…
Now, now. Chuck screaming at the top of his lungs that he saved this nation from Ebola, adultering Senators and coeds and how Corey Booker doesn’t really live where he lives shouldn’t draw undo attention.
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re: #116 FormerDirtDart
I guess someone finally got around to “officially” watching the dashcam footage
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Talk about sending a thrill down my leg.
#JebNoFilter on a whole new level. An all-access, behind-the-scenes look at our bus tour through New Hampshire. https://t.co/ADOIwKB3Td
— Jeb Bush (@JebBush) November 6, 2015
calm down my pacing heart.
re: #119 b.d.
Talk about sending a thrill down my leg.
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calm down my pacing heart.
Notice Scott Brown introducing Jeb?
Has anyone heard about Bernie Sanders using Uber extensively, even after criticizing them? A couple of people on Facebook think it’s evidence of hypocrisy on his part. Doing a search just comes up with right-wing websites talking about it.
I thought Bernie did really well at showing more of his personality tonight. Hillary did well on the discrimination issue. O’Malley was meh. Rachel was the star, though. She should moderate all the Dem and Rep debates.
re: #122 Jenner7
I thought Bernie did really well at showing more of his personality tonight. Hillary did well on the discrimination issue. O’Malley was meh. Rachel was the star, though. She should moderate all the Dem and Rep debates.
The GOP would never let her in the door, much less let her moderate. She’d have too many “gotcha” questions.
re: #124 Sophist C. Johnson
Baron von Munchausen.
So, that made me read up on the matter, and Baron von Munchausen was inspired by a real-life figure, one Hieronymous Karl Friedrich, Freiherr von Münchausen. He liked to regale visitors with exaggerated stories of his service in the Russo-Turkish War.
In 1760 Münchhausen retired to live as a Freiherr at his estates in Bodenwerder, where he remained until his death in 1797. It was there, especially at parties given for the area’s aristocrats, that he developed a reputation as an imaginative after-dinner storyteller, creating witty and highly exaggerated accounts of his adventures in Russia. Over the ensuing thirty years, his storytelling abilities gained such renown that he frequently received visits from travelling nobles wanting to hear his stories. One guest described Münchhausen as telling his stories “cavalierly, indeed with military emphasis, yet without any concession to the whimsicality of the man of the world; describing his adventures as one would incidents which were in the natural course of events.” However, Münchhausen was considered an honest man, rather than a liar. As another contemporary put it, Münchhausen’s unbelievable narratives were designed not to deceive, but “to ridicule the disposition for the marvellous which he observed in some of his acquaintances.”
Heh.
re: #119 b.d.
Talk about sending a thrill down my leg.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but what’s running down your leg ain’t thrill.
I’ve been reading about racism, justice, and the geography of Mississippi a good deal lately. I stumbled upon the Death Row Registry at their Department of Corrections website. What a horror show. Almost 50 individuals waiting to be killed by the state of Mississippi, mostly black males and only one female. One guy I looked at has been on death row in Mississippi as long as I’ve been alive.
Where I live (Colorado) we’ve executed one person since the Supreme Court said capital punishment was constitutional in 1976. We have three folks on death row. A jury couldn’t sentence the Aurora theater shooter to death.
Hillary’s answer about the death penalty during the Democratic candidate’s forum tonight was quite disappointing to me. Then again, I’m a hardliner. I don’t even think Dylan Storm Roof deserves the death penalty. A life locked in a cage? Yes.
The ol’ childhood adage applies. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
re: #128 teleskiguy
I’ve been reading about racism, justice, and the geography of Mississippi a good deal lately. I stumbled upon the Death Row Registry at their Department of Corrections website. What a horror show. Almost 50 individuals waiting to be killed by the state of Mississippi, mostly black males and only one female. One guy I looked at has been on death row in Mississippi as long as I’ve been alive.
There are a lot of awful legacies that run deep through the blood of this state.
re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg
There are a lot of awful legacies that run deep through the blood of this state.
Some of the stuff I’m reading is absolutely horrifying. Lynchings in Greenwood, all that shit in Philadelphia, Parchman Farm. Racist white people.
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re: #132 freetoken
That’s a beautiful mid to late 20th century sound.
LOUISVILLE (Reuters) - Kentucky Governor-elect Matt Bevin said on Friday that when he takes office in December he will order changes to the state marriage license form to appease clerks who have objected to issuing licenses to same-sex couples.“One thing I will take care of right away is we will remove the names of the county clerks from the marriage form,” Bevin told reporters in the Capitol rotunda.
Bevin, the second Republican elected governor in Kentucky since 1971, said he would make the change by executive order.
Perhaps because it was a fast and short-lived thread, no one noticed.
I’m off by eight years. It should be 20 January 2017.
re: #135 teleskiguy
Perhaps because it was a fast and shot-lived thread, no one noticed.
I’m off by eight years. It should be 20 January 2017.
You forgot to take into account when he declares himself Dictator for life and cancels all further elections
re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
What Bevin says he will do is essentially what Kim Davis did (without much authority) when she returned to her office after her time in the pokey. She used new forms that did not list her name as county clerk, and told her deputies they had to sign as notaries public, not as representatives of the office.
It’s just window-dressing, but I question whether these proposed forms would violate state law, which states the county clerk’s signature has to be on the marriage license.
re: #136 Kragar
You forgot to take into account when he declares himself Dictator for life and cancels all further elections
Fcuk. Silly me.
Fucking nutjobs will be rolling into town for the GOP debate on Tuesday. Wonder what the reaction would be if open carry liberals showed up outside.
re: #129 teleskiguy
Hillary’s answer about the death penalty during the Democratic candidate’s forum tonight was quite disappointing to me. Then again, I’m a hardliner. I don’t even think Dylan Storm Roof deserves the death penalty.
Lots of people, incl. Roof, deserve DP.
Just because they do doesn’t mean that DP is acceptable, for various reasons. Were these reasons to disappear, I would say “Off with their heads”, but these reasons are no more going away than the laws of thermodynamics are.
re: #109 ipsos
Is it just me, or did this week’s politics leave anyone else just completely shellshocked?
This is not the civics I learned about growing up.
Growing up is unlearning the civics we were taught. With any luck the process is complete before your second presidential election.
Same as it ever was….
re: #140 Nyet
Lots of people, incl. Roof, deserve DP.
Just because they do doesn’t mean that DP is acceptable, for various reasons. Were these reasons to disappear, I would say “Off with their heads”, but these reasons are no more going away than the laws of thermodynamics.
I want no man dead. On the other hand, some executions are far less irritating than others.
— emilio porompompero (@PoromEmilio) November 7, 2015
re: #139 Amory Blaine
I have maintained for quite a while now that the best way to get the GOTP to enact stricter gun laws would be for Blacks and Muslims to walk into gun shop enmasse and buy guns.
re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
They want to fire someone over a disagreement.
re: #148 Nyet
They want to fire someone over a disagreement.
That’s how daddy handles a disagreement…
There’s so much fail in this headline.
Scientists may have just found proof of a parallel universe leaking into our own https://t.co/VdDn6B6N0I #spaaace
— Blastr (@blastr) November 5, 2015
Heh.
To the trolls insisting to me that Israel steals people’s organs: just because you’re missing your brain doesn’t mean the Jews took it
— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) November 4, 2015
re: #150 Nyet
There’s so much fail in this headline.
In that parallel universe, Dr. Ben Carson escaped his life as a juvenile delinquent and violent offender by winning a scholarship to West Point, and becoming a world-renowned brain surgeon and amateur archaeologist.The parallel Earth Carson discovered, without actually visiting Giza, that the Great Pyramids are actually hollow and contained yoooge stores of grain.
You folks are crayzeeee:
Q. Re: Playing Doctor: I would add this word of caution. Today these sorts of things are taken EXTREMELY seriously. Last year my family went through hell when my daughter mentioned playing doctor with her older brother to a friend. My children would have been approximately ages 6 and 4 (we never were able to determine this exactly; they may have been slightly older or younger) when it happened—there was some showing of parts to each other. This friend, appropriately so I guess, told her mother. The mother then mentioned it to the school principal, a mandated reporter. The department of child and family services was called. An investigation ensued that involved two home visits and interviews with my children. In addition my daughter had to undergo a forensic interview with a child psychologist; my son had to give an audio recorded statement to the police. After the investigation, the entire case was dropped, but the entire process was one of the most stressful experiences of my entire life, made more so by that fact that you cannot talk to anyone about it.
What happened was indeed child abuse. By all the adults that should have known better.
UPDATED: Julie Kocurek, Travis County presiding felony judge, shot outside West Austin home https://t.co/oRDaXTzJng pic.twitter.com/kJm3wLQyhP
— Austin Statesman (@statesman) November 7, 2015
re: #154 Nyet
You folks are crayzeeee:
What happened was indeed child abuse. By all the adults that should have known better.
Americans are amazingly over-sensitive about sex, naughty bits and childhood curiosity about same. There have been accounts of people being charged with disseminating child porn by posting photos of their naked babies and toddler children taking baths.
re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Did know better but nonetheless wanted to make sure their asses were covered…
So they abused two small children, which was the only actually traumatizing experience in the whole story.
re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Americans are amazingly over-sensitive about sex, naughty bits and childhood curiosity about same. There have been accounts of people being charged with disseminating child porn by posting photos of their naked babies and toddler children taking baths.
I heard a similar story (ion Germany) about a young child who had a phimosis, a tight foreskin. Their doctor advised his dad to make sure and pull back and wash under the foreskin to make sure it did not grow inflamed or infected.
The son mentioned in day care something like “daddy plays with my pee-pee in the bathtub” and boom, the child was taken away and CPS were down on the family before they had a chance to explain.
Get a life, boy.
Please recall the big spoon/little spoon roles I described earlier. A look at the gay adaptation of these terms is useful in exposing the power relationship they instantiate. Among gay men, big spoon and little spoon have become softer ways of signaling whether one is a top or a bottom during sex. But, as has been true of the top/bottom dynamic since the beginning, these also carry certain connotative weight: Big spoons are manly and will take care of you (provided you let them use you to take care of themselves); little spoons are fragile, passive creatures that need to be held and kept safe. This, of course, is fundamentally a sexist arrangement, one that casts the big spoon as “the man” and the little spoon as “the woman.” To say that this power imbalance is built into all acts of spooning—whichever the sexes engaged—is not, I think, an overstatement. Indeed, I would argue that spooning is always already a power play, a perverse strategy by which we nightly enact the unjust relations of “big” and “little” privilege that plague our society on every level.
Wow. A dam burst in Brazil leaves 16 dead and devastates a town:
The dam was holding tailings, a mining waste product of metal filings, water and occasionally chemicals. It was located near the Gualaxo do Norte river, adding to fears of potential water contamination.
The G1 news service of the Globo Media group reported that between 15 and 16 people died and 45 others were missing, citing the local union.
Civil defence authorities could not confirm casualties and said numbers reported in Brazilian media were speculative. A city hall official confirmed one death and 16 injuries, adding that dozens more were missing.
That reminds me of another disaster, in northern Italy, I think, with similar circumstances - a wastewater dam with tailings failed and flooded a town, leading to many deaths. I can’t remember when it was, though.
re: #163 Dr Lizardo
Wow. A dam burst in Brazil leaves 16 dead and devastates a town:
That reminds me of another disaster, in northern Italy, I think, with similar circumstances - a wastewater dam with tailings failed and flooded a town, leading to many deaths. I can’t remember when it was, though.
Similar flooding in SE Europe, Bulgaria or Romania, I believe…
re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Similar flooding in SE Europe, Bulgaria or Romania, I believe…
Now I remember - the Val de Stava dam disaster in 1985.
re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Did know better but nonetheless wanted to make sure their asses were covered…
The school principal in that account was mandated by state law to report the abuse. Failure to do so is not only a crime but its also a firing offense that a union cannot file a grievance against. And because making the report was legally mandated the principal cannot be sued for having made it, nor can the other child’s mother.
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
The school principal in that account was mandated by state law to report the abuse. Failure to do so is not only a crime but its also a firing offense that a union cannot file a grievance against. And because making the report was legally mandated the principal cannot be sued for having made it, nor can the other child’s mother.
The only abuse was by the officials.
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
As I say, 90% of political correctness is great and more or less boils down to not being an asshole.
10% is pure craziness though.
And whose guilt is it that the ones responsible for the 10% tend to be disproportionately loud…
re: #96 Belafon
In the category of asshole owners, the Redskins newest argument for keeping the name is that the government can’t take their trademark away just because it’s offensive (Daily Kos link):
They try to argue that a trademark is equivalent to a book and is protected speech.
The Redskins are trying to argue that a racial slur can be trademarked. Unbelievable.
re: #169 Nyet
As I say, 90% of political correctness is great and more or less boils down to not being an asshole.
10% is pure craziness though.
And whose guilt is it that the ones responsible for the 10% tend to be disproportionately loud…
I’d argue it’s more like 80-20, but I otherwise agree.
Two days ago London saw a moonbat event escalating to animal cruelty due to a group of ‘riot tourists’.
I understand a crowd trying to spook police horses to keep the cops from dispersing them. But when young men attack a horse who has already lost its rider or try to slash a horse’s legs with broken glass, then those men have shown themselves to be riot tourists wanting to hurt people for fun.
— miles reed (@milesjreed) November 7, 2015
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, I switch off at the sight of DailyMail.
re: #172 Dr. Matt
Univ. of Alabama ‘appalled’ after fans display vile taunt
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That is Upchuck-worthy rottenness. Those four assholes should be suspended for the rest of the semester, with ‘F for zero’ given for any classwork or papers due before final exams.
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
That is Upchuck-worthy rottenness. Those four assholes should be suspended for the rest of the semester, with ‘F for zero’ given for any classwork or papers due before final exams.
You’re being so ultra politically correct.
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re: #177 Dr. Matt
That belongs to the 80-90% of the good PC. Trying to get someone fired over an innocent email or naming spooning sexist doesn’t…
Fox’s Greg Gutfeld Defends Ben Carson’s West Point Fabrication, Evokes #Benghazi https://t.co/wC04MWlAp8
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) November 7, 2015
GUTFELD: This is a thing that you’re seeing more and more of among people in the public eye. When they have a great story, they still change it. He would have been fine with his story but he changed it. And I think a lie is often a coat of paint you put on a story that you’re bored with. It’s not necessarily for other people. It’s for yourself because you keep adding things. It’s like renovating an apartment. You just keep adding more - it is like putting a fresh coat of paint on a story. It’s not like a deliberate destructive lie, like Hillary Clinton, on Benghazi.
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Good morning Lizards! Any special plans by anyone for the weekend?
re: #180 Feline Fearless Leader
Good morning Lizards! Any special plans by anyone for the weekend?
Yes:
And GF is making me go to some “veggiefest” or something……
re: #181 Dr. Matt
Yes:
And GF is making me go to some “veggiefest” or something……
Grains are “veggies” and beer is made from grain. Maybe check to see if the pyramids also have big beer vats in them. ;)
re: #182 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m suddenly craving some mead….and it’s only 8:20 am. :)
re: #179 Dr. Matt
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What Ben Carson did is very much like Hillary Clinton calling the Benghazi annex attack a “protest that escalated” in order to deny Mitt Romney an attack angle: Both were lies told to make a candidate look better.
If anything, Carson’s lie was worse than Clinton’s, as a good amount of the Benghazi criticism was dishonest right from the get-go, so Mrs. Clinton can at least argue she was protecting the president from a smear campaign. Ben Carson just lied to make himself look better.
re: #170 Lidane
The Redskins are trying to argue that a racial slur can be trademarked. Unbelievable.
How about the New York Jewboys or the Tennessee Crackers?
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
If anything, Carson’s lie was worse than Clinton’s, as a good amount of the Benghazi criticism was dishonest right from the get-go, so Mrs. Clinton can at least argue she was protecting the president from a smear campaign. Ben Carson just lied to make himself look better.
The details are fairly irrelevant, they all just remind us how unsuited for office the fellow is.
re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The details are fairly irrelevant, they all just remind us how unsuited for office the fellow is.
No, the details are important, as they help me cover my own rather large ass.
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
What Ben Carson did is very much like Hillary Clinton calling the Benghazi annex attack a “protest that escalated” in order to deny Mitt Romney an attack angle: Both were lies told to make a candidate look better.
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Quite astonishing that Fox and conservatives do not mention dubyah’s lies about WMDs to get us into a decade long war with Iraq.
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
No, the details are important, as they help me cover my own rather large ass.
It has been clear for some time that Ben is not suited for the office he is campaigning for, nor does he seem to be undertaking any great effort to make himself more suitable.
We need to move the discussion beyond him and focus on the candidates who are likely to win the nomination and go on to campaign for the office.
re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
It has been clear for some time that Ben is not suited for the office he is campaigning for, nor does he seem to be undertaking any great effort to make himself more suitable.
We need to move the discussion beyond him and focus on the candidates who are likely to win the nomination and go on to campaign for the office.
It won’t move till next week, because its going to be milked for all its worth at the Republican debate on Tuesday.
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
It won’t move till next week, because its going to be milked for all its worth at the Republican debate on Tuesday.
I am boycotting the GOP debates as long as they are boycotting journalists who ask anything but pre-scripted questions.
re: #188 Dr. Matt
Quite astonishing that Fox and conservatives do not mention dubyah’s lies about WMDs to get us into a decade long war with Iraq.
Seriously. Benghazi was tragic no doubt about it but the Republicans insist on presenting a narrative that these attacks are so rare and no one died in embassy attacks in the Bush years.
re: #179 Dr. Matt
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Why doens’t Greg just admit it that Clinton’s lie is worse because it’s Clinton. And honestly with Carson, it’s a series of lies about himself. The guy fucking claimed to have attacked his mother and a classmate FFS.
Decided to gin up some arbitrary political ratings:
5 best Republicans:
1. Abe Lincoln
2. Dwight Eisenhower
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. Wendell Wilkie
5. Alf Landon
5 worst Republicans
1. Joe McCarthy
2. Dick Cheney
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Donald Rumsfeld
5. Richard Nixon
re: #194 Shiplord Kirel
Decided to gin up some arbitrary political ratings:
5 best Republicans:
1. Abe Lincoln
2. Dwight Eisenhower
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. Wendell Wilkie
5. Alf Landon5 worst Republicans
1. Joe McCarthy
2. Dick Cheney
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Donald Rumsfeld
5. Richard Nixon
Not bad. I may put Jesse Helms on your worst list though. I think even though Thurmond ran as the Dixiecrat candidate, Helms was much worse during the time in the Senate. though Strom’s the one that Nixon went to get help on getting the South in the first place. Your best list is pretty good too, I’d throw in Harold Strassen, Fiorello La Guardia, Earl Warren (did most of his legacy from the bench but he still was a Republican and Thomas Dewey another name to throw out’s 1948 running mate.)
Truman or FDR worth consideration, or are they in the #6-10 group?
Also curious what you think of the Tafts. Principled perhaps, but hidebound conservative/isolationist types who I think slowed progress in this country by an appreciable factor.
re: #197 HappyWarrior
Oooh good one.
Little did I know in 2008 that the future Republican candidates would get even more freaky than her. But her lowering the plank can be seen symbolically as opening the gates to the barbarians.
re: #200 Nyet
Little did I know in 2008 that the future Republican candidates would get even more freaky than her. But her lowering the plank can be seen symbolically as opening the gates to the barbarians.
Yeah, good points.
re: #199 Feline Fearless Leader
Truman or FDR worth consideration, or are they in the #6-10 group?
Also curious what you think of the Tafts. Principled perhaps, but hidebound conservative/isolationist types who I think slowed progress in this country by an appreciable factor.
I think you get at how I feel about the Tafts. I don’t hate W.H Taft but I think him and Bob both were too rigid in their ideology.
As a footnote though: it’s more about the difference in style rather than in substance. It’s become OK to let your inner conservofascist freak out. It’s not like Helms was any better than Palin, policy-wise.
re: #204 Nyet
As a footnote though: it’s more about the difference in style rather than in substance. It’s become OK to let your inner conservofascist freak out. It’s not like Helms was any better than Palin, policy-wise.
Helms agh. One of the worst. But yeah he was a huge huge homophobe and racist and his record reflects that.
And if you think about it, that dean of American conservatism, Buckley, was, content-wise, as extreme as Palin; in fact more so. But he was able to couch his extremism in big words and was undeniably more well-read, so he passes off as a genius in comparison. The few basic ideas are the same though.
re: #194 Shiplord Kirel
Decided to gin up some arbitrary political ratings:
5 best Republicans:
1. Abe Lincoln
2. Dwight Eisenhower
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. Wendell Wilkie
5. Alf Landon5 worst Republicans
1. Joe McCarthy
2. Dick Cheney
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Donald Rumsfeld
5. Richard Nixon
Interesting. I’d put Ford in place of Landon on the best list.
Worst list? Reagan at 1, Cheney 2, Rumsfeld 3, McCarthy 4, Helms 5.
re: #206 Nyet
Yes. You hit the nail on the head.
re: #207 William Lewis
Mark my words, in the near future, Ted Cruz will make that bottom tier list.
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
The school principal in that account was mandated by state law to report the abuse. Failure to do so is not only a crime but its also a firing offense that a union cannot file a grievance against. And because making the report was legally mandated the principal cannot be sued for having made it, nor can the other child’s mother.
The other child’s mother was not legally mandated to not use discretion. They may not have realized what the principal would have to do once told.
re: #206 Nyet
And if you think about it, that dean of American conservatism, Buckley, was, content-wise, as extreme as Palin; in fact more so. But he was able to couch his extremism in big words and was undeniably more well-read, so he passes off as a genius in comparison. The few basic ideas are the same though.
Imagine Sarah Palin using lacuna in a sentence.
re: #194 Shiplord Kirel
Decided to gin up some arbitrary political ratings:
5 best Republicans:
1. Abe Lincoln
2. Dwight Eisenhower
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. Wendell Wilkie
5. Alf Landon5 worst Republicans
1. Joe McCarthy
2. Dick Cheney
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Donald Rumsfeld
5. Richard Nixon
The problem is that you could make that bottom list “500 Worst Republicans” and still run out of room for all of ‘em.
Heck, you need a separate list just for the worst Republican/Republican-enabling pundits, since they’ve done at least as much damage as the politicians…
re: #211 BeenHereAwhile
Ms Word Salad would mangle it to point where no one would recognize it.
re: #209 Dave In Austin
Mark my words, in the near future, Ted Cruz will make that bottom tier list.
He has to get real power first. Unlike the other 5 he has not directly caused the death of thousands of others through lies, death squads, corruption and homophobia. God willing he’ll never get the chance.
I would point out to Clinton that in USSR tens of thousands or more were shot on bogus charges of terrorism.
She would point out that the analogy doesn’t hold because US is not like USSR.
I would agree that it isn’t, but would still point out that the US is far from infallible, also when it comes to investigating terrorism. I would say that the initial point is, limiting DP to charges of terrorism would not preclude unjust verdicts. Moreover, it’s arbitrary.
re: #211 BeenHereAwhile
Imagine Sarah Palin using lacuna in a sentence.
Sorry, but she uses only American greens in her word salad, no lacuna or arugula!
re: #215 William Lewis
He has to get real power first. Unlike the other 5 he has not directly caused the death of thousands of others through lies, death squads, corruption and homophobia. God willing he’ll never get the chance.
Deaths no, but he sure has cost the taxpayer a lot of money though. And he is completely deaf to it.
re: #211 BeenHereAwhile
Imagine Sarah Palin using lacuna in a sentence.
“Lacuna matata! Oh I just love that movie with the lions!”
re: #206 Nyet
And if you think about it, that dean of American conservatism, Buckley, was, content-wise, as extreme as Palin; in fact more so. But he was able to couch his extremism in big words and was undeniably more well-read, so he passes off as a genius in comparison. The few basic ideas are the same though.
Yeah you and I have talked before about Buckley. Very much agreed.
re: #216 Nyet
If the state is allowed to kill, they will find ways to kill the ones they want dead. If it is not, they will still find ways to kill but it will be a little bit harder and there will be a slight chance of accountability. There is no accountability now for the murderous thugs that pass for prosecutors in death penalty states, for example.
re: #209 Dave In Austin
Mark my words, in the near future, Ted Cruz will make that bottom tier list.
He’s got potential for sure.
re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus
“Lacuna matata! Oh I just love that movie with the lions!”
Except in the end when they overthrow the GOP administration.
;P
re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus
“Lacuna matata! Oh I just love that movie with the lions!”
Head just met Palm…. That’s funny right there…
re: #221 William Lewis
If the state is allowed to kill, they will find ways to kill the ones they want dead. If it is not, they will still find ways to kill but it will be a little bit harder and there will be a slight chance of accountability. There is no accountability now for the murderous thugs that pass for prosecutors in death penalty states, for example.
One major problem here is that you get prosecuting attorneys who see obtaining the maximum number of death sentences as a badge of honor and push for them to advance their own careers.
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
This happens at protests of all kinds. A LOT. Assholes come in and do violent things and then a whole movement gets blamed for it. I saw this at anti Iraq war protests. People breaking windows, throwing shit at police, stealing stuff, trying to start fires. They didn’t give one shit about the protest, they used it as either a)cover to commit crimes or b) shit that would be seen on the news to discredit anti war protesters. It’s been going on since, well, there have been protests. Just because someone does something like that does not make them part of the group organizing the protest. Those events don’t happen in a vacuum where it’s and enforceable “members only” in attendance. It’s open to the public, obviously, so people enter and exit at will. This crap happens all the time and it’s mostly done to discredit and make liberals look like assholes.
re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The problem is the basic immunity of prosecutors.
If with each overturned DP verdict the prosecutor in charge were charged with misconduct/manslaughter…
re: #226 A Mom Anon
Heck, it happens after football games too.
re: #228 stpaulbear
That is why Philly had “Eagles Court.”
Orc Warlord: No mere human can stop me! Carson: GRAIN-STORING PYRAMID Orc Warlord: Well crap. Carson: WEST POINT Orc Warlord: We’re out.
— Turkey Zandarumstick (@ZandarVTS) November 7, 2015
re: #226 A Mom Anon
The drawback of being a decentralized movement. Both the right and the left will blame the deeds of a few members of a movement they don’t like on the whole. And so it goes…
re: #194 Shiplord Kirel
Decided to gin up some arbitrary political ratings:
5 worst Republicans
1. Joe McCarthy
2. Dick Cheney
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Donald Rumsfeld
5. Richard Nixon
6. Tom DeLay
7. Sarah Palin
8. Rick Santorum
9. Allen West
10. Louie Gohmert
11. Michele Bachmann
12. David Vetter
13. Steve King
14. Ted Cruz
15. dubyah
re: #232 Dr. Matt
W started a war responsible for deaths of about 200K people, wounding and dispossessing many more. Should be higher on the list.
re: #233 Nyet
W started a war responsible for deaths of about 200K people, wounding and dispossessing many more. Should be higher on the list.
In all reality, I would make the entire 15 tied for first.
re: #232 Dr. Matt
I really don’t think Sarah Palin should be on the list. Sure, she’s a candidate, but she’s never had opportunity to do anything but make ugly noises in public.
re: #235 Snarknado!
I really don’t think Sarah Palin should be on the list. Sure, she’s a candidate, but she’s never had opportunity to do anything but make ugly noises in public.
McCain deserves a spot on the list for giving us Sarah Palin as a national figure
South Ockendon Sea Cadet beats 14,000 others to win award
Look at the URL.
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
What Ben Carson did is very much like Hillary Clinton calling the Benghazi annex attack a “protest that escalated” in order to deny Mitt Romney an attack angle: Both were lies told to make a candidate look better.
If anything, Carson’s lie was worse than Clinton’s, as a good amount of the Benghazi criticism was dishonest right from the get-go, so Mrs. Clinton can at least argue she was protecting the president from a smear campaign. Ben Carson just lied to make himself look better.
The big question is why would a highly successful individual need to fluff up and lie about other things in his life?
And it is not like he just did the embellishing only after deciding to run for political office. He didn’t say a lot of this BS to run for president unless he knew he was running for political office 30-40 years ago.
So, it all comes down to a character issue that has been ongoing for years. It was all glossed over because of his medical successes. Now that he is running for a major political office questions of character are real important. This isn’t all about a nonexistent scholarship, it is about his character. He is a fabricator that doesn’t like to be called on it. It really should be a disqualifier for a presidential candidate.
We don’t need a president that we have to question if he is telling the nation the truth or is bullshitting us again.
re: #238 ObserverArt
We don’t need a president that we have to question if he is telling the nation the truth or is bullshitting us again.
The bit with the pyramids amazes me because he considers his views to be “Biblical”. Except they’re not. There is no mention in the Bible of Joseph building pyramids, just an outdated, even medieval view of what they might have been used for.
Yet he defends such views by painting his attackers as questioning Christianity and presenting himself as a martyr to his faith.
re: #200 Nyet
Little did I know in 2008 that the future Republican candidates would get even more freaky than her. But her lowering the plank can be seen symbolically as opening the gates to the barbarians.
The fact she turned idiocy into a well-paying career and a spot as a national figure was the game changer.
She gave the people what they want. All the others are ready to give them even more.
re: #206 Nyet
And if you think about it, that dean of American conservatism, Buckley, was, content-wise, as extreme as Palin; in fact more so. But he was able to couch his extremism in big words and was undeniably more well-read, so he passes off as a genius in comparison. The few basic ideas are the same though.
The difference, and its one as wide as the Snake River Canyon, is that William F. Buckley changed his views as he learned. It took running for mayor of New York City to get him to meet poor black people in an extended setting, but after he did so his views changed, he tried to highlight policies that would reduce poverty and he never said any of the “white over black” crap ever again.
Sarah Palin, by sharp point of contrast, is too stupid and set in her ways to adapt. Her first extended experience meeting non-whites in Hawaii in college resulting in her fleeing for a smaller school in Utah where she would not be challenged in her assumptions regarding race.
Those two incidents for me demarcate the difference between Buckley and Palin: He grew, learned and adapted while she flew, remained willfully ignorant, and refused to change.
Sarah Palin is unfit to polish a bronze memorial bust of WRB, as he was a better person than she’ll ever be.
re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The bit with the pyramids amazes me because he considers his views to be “Biblical”. Except they’re not. There is no mention in the Bible of Joseph building pyramids, just an outdated, even medieval views of what they might have been used for.
Yet he defends such views by painting his attackers as questioning Christianity and presenting himself as a martyr to his faith.
Next defense: “Well, I’m not a Bible scholar…”
re: #200 Nyet
Little did I know in 2008 that the future Republican candidates would get even more freaky than her. But her lowering the plank can be seen symbolically as opening the gates to the barbarians.
It established the standard that solid conservative credentials are all that is needed to succeed in the GOP.
re: #235 Snarknado!
I really don’t think Sarah Palin should be on the list. Sure, she’s a candidate, but she’s never had opportunity to do anything but make ugly noises in public.
But her asinine and hateful rhetoric in many ways is directly responsible for the rise of so many teaparty candidates and the current state of conservative gutter politics. The bar was already so low, but she knocked it over. Here is an opinion piece for a few weeks ago: The GOP’s dysfunction all started with Sarah Palin
re: #242 Dark_Falcon
He changed - was forced to change - on some things, and then only after having stood steadfastly athwart history yelling “Neener”. He was defending the Apartheid regime as late as 1985, probably also thereafter. By then he was a fully grown man and “thinker”.
Then again, Palin also learned not to advertise some of her more extreme connections (con-con, AIP…), so she learns.
re: #246 Nyet
He changed - was forced to change - on some things, and then only after having stood steadfastly athwart history yelling “Neener”. He was defending the Apartheid regime as late as 1985, probably also thereafter. By then he was a fully grown man and “thinker”.
Then again, Palin also learned not to advertise some of her more extreme connections (con-con, AIP…), so she learns.
Yep.
re: #245 Dr. Matt
But her asinine and hateful rhetoric in many ways is directly responsible for the rise of so many teaparty candidates and the current state of conservative gutter politics. The bar was already so low, but she knocked it over. Here is an opinion piece for a few weeks ago: The GOP’s dysfunction all started with Sarah Palin
Even that article notes that it was the other Repubs who didn’t call her out, not Palin herself, that created the problem. The chase after extremists/ to the bottom was by people who held positions of power and should have known better.
re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
McCain deserves a spot on the list for giving us Sarah Palin as a national figure
I thought about that. Certainly the buck stops with McCain, but I doubt he was the one that made the pick. His campaign chose Palin simply for optics and pandering. Contrast that to Obama, who chose Biden because Joe is a statesmen, is well-respected, and helped shore up Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience. Obama chose experience, the McCain camp choose a face.
re: #250 Nyet
Behold, William F. Buckley, defending apatheid.
In 1985. Buckley has no excuse at all.
Buckley’s views I think can be summed up as him thinking that non-whites were incapable of governing themselves.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
Buckley’s views I think can be summed up as him thinking that non-whites were incapable of governing themselves.
The USA has a whole bunch of whites who can’t govern themselves. We call them congressmen and women
re: #253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The USA has a whole bunch of whites who can’t govern themselves. We call them congressmen and women
Ha!
re: #248 Snarknado!
The Republican establishment’s 2008 embrace of Palin set an irresponsibly low bar. Coincidence or not, a batch of nonsense-spewing, hard-right candidates quickly followed, often to disastrous effect.
I’ll always consider Palin one of the worst politicians and worst Americans in my lifetime. She is truly a dumb and evil person. She indirectly or directly helped launch a movement of idiocy and derp. And, now that movement of idiocy and derp is mainstream. Just look at the GOP clown car of candidates.
re: #248 Snarknado!
Even that article notes that it was the other Repubs who didn’t call her out, not Palin herself, that created the problem. The chase after extremists/ to the bottom was by people who held positions of power and should have known better.
Those who knew better where in no position to call her out. doing so during the 2008 election would have resulted in those doing the calling being seen as stabbing the party in the back and handing the election to Obama*. And after the election she was more popular than they were and any attempt to go after her would have been met with an unstoppable counter-attack.
*: I am saying what the perception would have been, not what the facts were.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
Buckley’s views I think can be summed up as him thinking that non-whites were incapable of governing themselves.
And that view still persists in the GOP.
But anyhow, I think the vibe I got from that link is just the blatant double standard Buckley and many conservatives like him have to governing. It’s “meddling” to do something about Apartheid but perfectly dandy to have a U.S sponsored dictator that the people do not want in Latin and South America. Call it the Cold War mindset all you want but that article just shows Buckley’s hypocrisy and racism big time.
re: #258 HappyWarrior
But anyhow, I think the vibe I got from that link is just the blatant double standard Buckley and many conservatives like him have to governing. It’s “meddling” to do something about Apartheid but perfectly dandy to have a U.S sponsored dictator that the people do not want in Latin and South America. Call it the Cold War mindset all you want but that article just shows Buckley’s hypocrisy and racism big time.
The apartheid regime in South Africa was fervently anti-communist. That may have played a part in his support of it.
re: #256 Dark_Falcon
Those who knew better where in no position to call her out. doing so during the 2008 election would have resulted in those doing the calling being seen as stabbing the party in the back and handing the election to Obama*. And after the election she was more popular than they were and any attempt to go after her would have been met with an unstoppable counter-attack.
*: I am saying what the perception would have been, not what the facts were.
We get it, your party is filled with cowards who won’t call out the VP candidate suggesting that the other party’s presidential candidate hates America. And I am sorry but enough of the frigging excuses already. Obama’s use of Bain Capital as a campaign issue was criticized by Cory Booker and Cory Booker did not suffer. Sorry but it was cowardice pure and simple that had R’s refusing to call out Palin’s hateful rhetoric for what it was.
re: #258 HappyWarrior
But anyhow, I think the vibe I got from that link is just the blatant double standard Buckley and many conservatives like him have to governing. It’s “meddling” to do something about Apartheid but perfectly dandy to have a U.S sponsored dictator that the people do not want in Latin and South America. Call it the Cold War mindset all you want but that article just shows Buckley’s hypocrisy and racism big time.
What it really was was driven by the Cold War. Until the USSR pulled back and the African National Congress stopped being a Soviet client movement, the alternative to apartheid would have been a Soviet client state. And that would have been a nightmare for America on several different levels.
If you don’t agree, then tell me how else it could have worked out.
re: #260 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The apartheid regime in South Africa was fervently anti-communist. That may have played a part in his support of it.
Oh certainly. But that’s the thing. The Cold War mindset tells us that anti communist = pro democracy and South Africa wasn’t the case and neither was Pinochet’s Chile, the Argentinian junta, and were many other regimes that we supported simply because of that.
re: #260 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The apartheid regime in South Africa was fervently anti-communist. That may have played a part in his support of it.
It did.
re: #262 Dark_Falcon
What it really was was driven by the Cold War. Until the USSR pulled back and the African National Congress stopped being a Soviet client movement, the alternative to apartheid would have been a Soviet client state. And that would have been a nightmare for America on several different levels.
If you don’t agree, then tell me how else it could have worked out.
I’ll admit, I have no idea how it would have worked out but that WFB supported a racist authoritarian regime well in to the mid 80’s is something that should be a black mark on his legacy which is the whole point of this discussion.
re: #264 Dark_Falcon
It did.
And if you think his past support of segregation had nothing ot do with it, I think you’re naive. I don’t deny that anti-communism was part of his motivation but racism certainly played a role too.
re: #262 Dark_Falcon
What it really was was driven by the Cold War. Until the USSR pulled back and the African National Congress stopped being a Soviet client movement, the alternative to apartheid would have been a Soviet client state. And that would have been a nightmare for America on several different levels.
If you don’t agree, then tell me how else it could have worked out.
Not a single explicit mention of the Soviets or Commies in the article.
While that would have been one of the reasons - not nearly an excusable one, because you don’t fight commies by helping out an apartheid regime - it could not have been the main one.
re: #249 Dr. Matt
I thought about that. Certainly the buck stops with McCain, but I doubt he was the one that made the pick. His campaign chose Palin simply for optics and pandering. Contrast that to Obama, who chose Biden because Joe is a statesmen, is well-respected, and helped shore up Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience. Obama chose experience, the McCain camp choose a face.
McCain had to mollify the Christian Fundamentalist wing of the party, which was not at all happy with McCain’s views on abortion and other social issues.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
Buckley’s views I think can be summed up as him thinking that non-whites were incapable of governing themselves.
Rhode Island has as many senators as California, so one man, one vote is an electoral illusion…
re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Rhode Island has as many senators as California, so one man, one vote is an electoral illusion…
Well, true one man one vote would have been the New Jersey plan which would have had exactly that.
Honestly here’s the thing for me in the end that gets me upset about it. When Nelson Mandela died. We saw praise of him and his legacy from many conservatives. It just rings insincere/hollow for me anyhow to applaud Mandela while also having supported or continuing to rationalize the policies that kept him and his people second class citizens because of Anti-Sovietism. If you really sincerely admire Mandela and what he was up against, don’t rationalize. or excuse the policies. that kept him imprisoned. Don’t concern troll by acting like Barack Obama of all people doesn’t know or respect Mandela’s legacy to the world.
As a side note, I marvel at how Buckley uses the imperfection of the US electoral system (the indefensible “electoral college”) to draw the equivalence with apartheid. Wut?
And yes I do think racism played a role in anti-communist mindset. Certainly Anti-Semitism despite Roy Cohn’s presence played a huge role in McCarthyism. To clarfiy, that’s not to say all anti-communism is motivated by racism but I think Buckley and many others like him’s bigotry motivated theirs.
re: #272 Nyet
As a side note, I marvel at how Buckley uses the imperfection of the US electoral system (the indefensible “electoral college”) to draw the equivalence with apartheid. Wut?
Mental gymnastics.
re: #270 HappyWarrior
Well, true one man one vote would have been the New Jersey plan which would have had exactly that.
It was intensely opposed by small states that feared domination by larger states.
hahahahaa
.@ChrisChristie: The debate change isn’t a “demotion” but a “transfer” https://t.co/n2aY2KYwHK via @teddyschleifer pic.twitter.com/rG5I3qQm1I
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 7, 2015
re: #275 Dark_Falcon
It was intensely opposed by small states that feared domination by larger states.
I know that. I was just pointing that such a plan was proposed.
re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth
The debate change isn’t a “demotion” but a “transfer”
My wife just “transferred” me from the bed to the sofa…
re: #273 HappyWarrior
In 1978, Roger Pearson became the World Chairman of the WACL. Pearson was described in a Washington Post article as having neo-Nazi associations[1][2][3][4][5][6] and sources report that as a result of an article in the Washington Post in 1978 critical of WACL and alleging extreme right wing politics of Pearson that either he was expelled from WACL or at least was pressured into resigning from his position as World Chairman.[7][8][9][…]
The U.S. chapter of WACL, the United States Council for World Freedom (USCWF) was founded in 1981 by Major General John K. Singlaub. […] This branch generated controversy when it supported Nicaraguan guerrillas in the Iran-Contra affair[10] and, in 1981, the USCWF was placed under watch by the Anti-Defamation League, which said that the organization had increasingly become “a point of contact for extremists, racists, and anti-Semites”.[11][12] During the 1980s, the USCWF and WACL conducted a purge of these elements, and invited ADL observers to monitor its conferences;[13] by 1985, the Anti-Defamation League declared itself “satisfied that substantial progress has been made since 1981 in ridding the organization of racists and anti-Semites.”[14]
“After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists.” - Sergey Dovlatov,
re: #273 HappyWarrior
And yes I do think racism played a role in anti-communist mindset. Certainly Anti-Semitism despite Roy Cohn’s presence played a huge role in McCarthyism.
Which Jews were targeted by post-WWII anti-communists other than the Rosenbergs (who should be included because they actually were guilty of what they were accused of doing).
re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
McCain had to mollify the Christian Fundamentalist wing of the party, which was not at all happy with McCain’s views on abortion and other social issues.
And as is always the reply: How’d that work out for him in the general election?
It was a short-sighted, losing choice.
re: #280 Nyet
“After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists.” - Sergey Dovlatov,
Upding for Dovlatov. Gotta dig him out and re-read “Anniversary Boy”.
re: #282 stpaulbear
And as is always the reply: How’d that work out for him in the general election?
It was a short-sighted, losing choice.
The other option would have been to see the Fundie wing run its own candidate, they were threatening to do so if McCain did not accede to their demands.
re: #281 Dark_Falcon
Which Jews were targeted by post-WWII anti-communists other than the Rosenbergs (who should be included because they actually were guilty of what they were accused of doing).
You’re seriously going to suggest to me that the fact that the majority of those targeted by McCarthy were Jewish was a coincidence and that communism hasn’t been linked with Judaism by fanatical anti-communists from the start?
re: #280 Nyet
“After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists.” - Sergey Dovlatov,
Good quote.
re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth
hahahahaa
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I know what I’ve said about not admitting you just got your ass kicked, but sometimes its just so obvious that is what just happening that trying to spin it just makes you look like a fool. This was one of those times.
I do agree with Fox Business and the Wall Street Journal for doing it, though. November of the year before the presidential election is a time to focus more closely on the leaders and get past the “cattle shows” of the early debates. And that means putting Chris the Bellowing Bull out to pasture.
re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The other option would have been to see the Fundie wing run its own candidate, they were threatening to do so if McCain did not accede to their demands.
Same result: President Obama.
the GOP put themselves into that losing proposition by pandering to a bunch of narrow minded bigots.
re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The other option would have been to see the Fundie wing run its own candidate, they were threatening to do so if McCain did not accede to their demands.
In hindsight, he should have told them to fuk off and taken his chances with a more sensible choice as a running mate. He still may have lost, but in the long run, splitting the fundies away from the GOP would have benefited the party down the road.
re: #285 HappyWarrior
You’re seriously going to suggest to me that the fact that the majority of those targeted by McCarthy were Jewish was a coincidence and that communism hasn’t been linked with Judaism by fanatical anti-communists from the start?
“No” to the second point and an “I’m not sure that’s correct.” to the first.
Media Double Standard: Ben Carson Is a Liar But Barack Obama Isn’t a Kenyan https://t.co/4rgTjT2xR2 via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) November 7, 2015
Nice to see @gatewaypundit stop worrying about what anybody thinks and go full Birther https://t.co/yeEMWmaKRU
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 7, 2015
79/124 questioned by McCArthy’s hearing were Jewish.
re: #291 Charles Johnson
Seven years, and Dim Jim is still beating the Kenyan drum.
re: #290 Dark_Falcon
“No” to the second point and an “I’m not sure that’s correct.” to the first.
I think you’re deeply mistaken about the role of anti-semitism in anti-communism then. I don’t think all anti-communism was motivated by it since after all there have been anti-communist Jews from the start but there’s always been an under current of antisemitism in fanatical anti-communism.
re: #285 HappyWarrior
You’re seriously going to suggest to me that the fact that the majority of those targeted by McCarthy were Jewish was a coincidence and that communism hasn’t been linked with Judaism by fanatical anti-communists from the start?
I haven’t studied this, so can’t express an informed opinion, but I do know McCarthy liked him some Peiper and Yockey.
re: #295 Nyet
I haven’t studied this, so can’t express an informed opinion, but I do know McCartgy liked him some Peiper and Yockey.
I certainly thought it was interesting too that McCarthy thought htat the Malmedy perps didn’t get their fair trial but thought it was fine to ruin someone’s life for having been sympathetic to the Communist Party at one point.
re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Having lived with this guy as governor and his “I’m a straight talker, I don’t bullshit” shtick for over 5 years, it’s really kind of pathetic to see him using this kind of spin.
For those unaware: when confronted with polling that indicated NJ residents don’t think he’d be a good president, Christie declared that what it really meant was we love him so much as governor, we don’t want him to leave.
Yes, you read that right.
Now, to see this “transfer” comment? That is so effing sad. I’m not a fan, obviously, but you know what? I’m not a politician, but it seems to me the more honest approach would be “Yeah, the poll numbers suck, but all that means is I’m not working hard enough to get my message across.”
re: #285 HappyWarrior
You’re seriously going to suggest to me that the fact that the majority of those targeted by McCarthy were Jewish was a coincidence and that communism hasn’t been linked with Judaism by fanatical anti-communists from the start?
Ya know, just like all of the closing of all of those Alabama DMV offices just happen to be in majority black counties.
“Wow, so it means that it’ll be that much more difficult for black people who lean Democratic to get IDs to vote? What are the odds?”
re: #289 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
In hindsight, he should have told them to fuk off and taken his chances with a more sensible choice as a running mate. He still may have lost, but in the long run, splitting the fundies away from the GOP would have benefited the party down the road.
The GOP knows that would banish them to the political wilderness for several election cycles, and they fear that they could slip into Whigoblivion.
re: #297 HappyWarrior
There’s that. Although it should be conceded IMHO that the Dachau trials were a mess; but as with the case of searching for communists - where the grain of truth was also present after all - McCarthy wasn’t content with plain facts and had to use sensationalist stories about 130+ crushed testicles and such.
re: #291 Charles Johnson
“Media Double Standard: Ben Carson Is a Liar But Barack Obama Isn’t a Kenyan”
re: #301 Nyet
There’s that. Although it should be conceded IMHO that the Dachau trials were a mess; but as with the case of searching for communists - where the grain of truth was also present after all - McCarthy wasn’t content with plain facts and had to use sensationalist stories about 130+ crushed testicles and such.
Right, we agree. McCarthy is one of those truly odd figures in American history. I need to read more about him.
re: #282 stpaulbear
And as is always the reply: How’d that work out for him in the general election?
It was a short-sighted, losing choice.
And it still carries on into today. Historically it well may be seen as the start of the demise of the Republican party. The party loses. The country loses. Only one that came out of it was Palin and because of that there is no end in sight until there is either a complete end to Palinesque characters or the GOP.
Palin as the virus that infects that party to this day, and they still can’t stop its spread.
Hey…I did a Palin virus photoshop…let’s see…oh yeah, here it is.
The Deadly Palin Brain Virusre: #304 ObserverArt
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re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The GOP knows that would banish them to the political wilderness for several election cycles, and they fear that they could slip into Whigoblivion.
That may yet happen, at the rate they’re going.
re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
The GOP knows that would banish them to the political wilderness for several election cycles, and they fear that they could slip into Whigoblivion.
Yeah, but does that even matter? I mean, look at the slate of the current clown car, and who the leading candidates are? Republican voters are looking at this and going “Yeah, this is the best line up yet, and we’re going to support the two most fucked up people we can!”
The RNC/GOP leadership seems to have some inkling that there’s a problem (Reince’s post=mortem report that reads like an Onion article now), but they have the same problems that all the other GOP “moderates” have: utter denial and lack of a fucking spine.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that there is a huge amount of nihilism wrapped in the modern GOP. It’s like Heath Ledger’s Joker should replace the elephant as symbol of the party. They want what they want, and if you don’t give it to them, they’re going to burn the whole fucking country down while standing on the gas can themselves.
Fascinating character.
In late 1952, Yockey traveled to Prague and witnessed the Prague Trials. He believed they “foretold a Russian break with Jewry”, a view he put forward in his article What is Behind the Hanging of the Eleven Jews in Prague?.[10] Indeed, that prediction was vindicated by the fact that the last Jewish member of the Soviet Presidium, Lazar Kaganovich, was expelled in 1957 - having been sidelined as early as 1953. (In addition, after sympathizing with Israel in its 1948-49 war, Russia switched sides and supported the Arabs in subsequent conflicts.) Yockey believed that Stalinism had purged Soviet Communism of Jewish influence. He spent the remainder of his life attempting to forge an alliance between the worldwide forces of Communism and the international network of the extreme Right of which he was a part, with an aim toward weakening or overthrowing the government of the United States.
re: #304 ObserverArt
Symptoms of the Palin virus include aphasia and paranoia. Those infected are advised to avoid Big Gulps, alcoholic beverages and Katie Couric.
re: #299 Mattand
Ya know, just like all of the closing of all of those Alabama DMV offices just happen to be in majority black counties.
“Wow, so it means that it’ll be that much more difficult for black people who lean Democratic to get IDs to vote? What are the odds?”
Right, it was a big part of it. It’s why Civil Rights supporters were always linked with Jews and Communists in the South before White Southern Evangelicals discovered how much they “love” the Jewish people. It’s why in Europe even though the Communist championed land reform that would benefit the majority Christian peasantry that Communism was seen as a Judeo plot. Hell the Nazis talked about “Judeo-Bolshevism” frequently. So it’s perfectly clear to DF, I don’t think all Anti-Communism was motivated by racism and antisemitism but I think a significant amount of it was that it shaped the mindset even if some leading anti-communists like Cohn were Jewish themselves.
re: #306 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
That may yet happen, at the rate they’re going.
I know I’m a broken record/CD/MP3 file, but it ain’t going to happen. The GOP is here to stay. Too many self-identified independents either can’t or won’t look at how batshit these people are.
Between voter ignorance and the way they effing gerrymandered/riggged the system to maintain a lock on Congress, they ain’t going anywhere.
Bobby Jindal Wants to Go One-on-One with Ted Cruz https://t.co/IdiZL8GI7V pic.twitter.com/XyyXclP7Hl
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 7, 2015
re: #311 Mattand
I know I’m a broken record/CD/MP3 file, but it ain’t going to happen. The GOP is here to stay. Too many self-identified independents either can’t or won’t look at how batshit these people are.
Between voter ignorance and the way they effing gerrymandered/riggged the system to maintain a lock on Congress, they ain’t going anywhere.
You got too many who MBF themselves. “Oh sure the Republicans want to control my body and they demonize my gay friends but I don’t like taxes.”
re: #313 Lidane
Bobby and Ted — mano a mano.
re: #309 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Symptoms of the Palin virus include aphasia and paranoia. Those infected are advised to avoid Big Gulps, alcoholic beverages and Katie Couric.
Another symptom is Chronic Word Salad. Infected are advised to stay away from TV cameras, microphones, and multiple syllable words while afflicted. The only known cure is education, along with repeated rounds of self-awareness boosters.
re: #307 Mattand
Yeah, but does that even matter? I mean, look at the slate of the current clown car, and who the leading candidates are? Republican voters are looking at this and going “Yeah, this is the best line up yet, and we’re going to support the two most fucked up people we can!”
The RNC/GOP leadership seems to have some inkling that there’s a problem (Reince’s post=mortem report that reads like an Onion article now), but they have the same problems that all the other GOP “moderates” have: utter denial and lack of a fucking spine.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that there is a huge amount of nihilism wrapped in the modern GOP. It’s like Heath Ledger’s Joker should replace the elephant as symbol of the party. They want what they want, and if you don’t give it to them, they’re going to burn the whole fucking country down while standing on the gas can themselves.
Much like this, presumably….
Speechless.
Ben Carson’s house: an homage to himself - in pictures
A painting of Ben Carson hangs over the fireplace in the main lounge area
Also on display in the hallway is a painting of Carson with Jesusre: #317 Mattand
Another symptom is Chronic Word Salad. Infected are advised to stay away from TV cameras, microphones, and multiple syllable words while afflicted. The only known cure is education, along with repeated rounds of self-awareness boosters.
Infected parties should also avoid the handling and use of firearms.
re: #305 Nyet
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re: #313 Lidane
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Ted Cruz will just brush that barking aside like he’s a Pit Bull and Bobby Jindal is a Toy Poodle.
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Now I wonder who has the bigger ego, Dr. Ben (Tomb Grainer) or The Donald.
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Speechless.
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I wonder how well it would be received if Obama had a painting of him with Jesus prominently displayed in the WH? And since you had Jeb Tamland, I think it’s now time for Ben Goodman(Ha not even thinking about the famous wing musician) but actually the character in Dodge Ball who had a painting of himself holding a bull by the horns and insisting to Christine Taylor that it actually happeend.
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Ted Cruz will just brush that barking aside like he’s a Pit Bull and Bobby Jindal is a Toy Poodle.
Nah, they’re both a couple of Shit Who’s.
re: #310 HappyWarrior
Basically, what happened is that Jews suffered under the old regimes (cf. the Russian “pale of settlement”) and although most Jews were not revolutionaries, a number of them, often disproportionate to their demographic percentage, were*, and quite many played visible roles in leadership of left-wing parties, whether revolutionary or not. This visibility, coupled with the usual conspiracy-mongering of the right, gave root to the memes of “Judeo-Bolshevism” and such.
* That is why a decontextualized “McCarthy’s targets were mostly Jewish” argument is quite ambiguous without further info. The numbers could easily have been disproportional even under an “objective” investigator.
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
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Needs more black velvet paintings.
re: #324 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Now I wonder who has the bigger ego, Dr. Ben (Tomb Grainer) or The Donald.
I’m not sure. Let’s ask Keith Ablow of FNC.
re: #324 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Still not as cool as the painting of Bill Murray inside Bill Murray’s home in Zombieland.
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Ted Cruz will just brush that barking aside like he’s a Pit Bull and Bobby Jindal is a Toy Poodle.
Cruz is more like a beagle.
Also, pit bulls are not vicious by nature.
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Speechless.
Ben Carson’s house: an homage to himself - in pictures
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Black Jesus should give freepers a heart attack.
re: #327 Nyet
Basically, what happened is that Jews suffered under the old regimes (cf. the Russian “pale of settlement”) and although most Jews were not revolutionaries, a number of them, often disproportionate to their demographic percentage, were*, and quite many played visible roles in leadership of left-wing parties, whether revolutionary or not. This visibility, coupled with the usual conspiracy-mongering of the right, gave root to the memes of “Judeo-Bolshevism” and such.
* That is why a decontextualized “McCarthy’s targets were mostly Jewish” argument is quite ambiguous without further info. The numbers could easily have been disproportional even under an “objective” investigator.
True, fair points. The crux of my argument though and I think you agree is that Anti-Semitism was present in Anti-Communism.
re: #330 goddamnedfrank
Still not as cool as the painting of Bill Murray inside Bill Murray’s home in Zombieland.
It’s Ted Cruz.
re: #314 HappyWarrior
You got too many who MBF themselves. “Oh sure the Republicans want to control my body and they demonize my gay friends but I don’t like taxes.”
I can’t upding that enough.
As a New Jersey resident, I sometimes feel it’s way hypocritical of me to rail about Magic Balance Fairy. It seems like that every major Democratic candidate I helped win office hasn’t exactly been Mr. Clean. Lots of people either stepping down in disgrace or getting investigated. I get the feeling we’ve got the same problem as Illinois and Louisiana: most of our politicians are scummy regardless of party.
But your comment perfectly encapsulates my solution/rationalization: I lean towards a party that doesn’t see bigotry and religious fanaticism as the perfect way to run the country.
If the GOP decides they want to finally grow a spine and reject the fucking ignorant Tea Bag faction that now drags them around by the nose, we can talk. As most rational people realize, that’s probably not for another 50 years for so.
re: #330 goddamnedfrank
Still not as cool as the painting of Bill Murray inside Bill Murray’s home in Zombieland.
Bill Edwardvoitch Murray.
Oh. One more upding and I reach 30,000. I feel like a member of the family.
: )
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Speechless.
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To be fair, the Holy Ghost gave Dr. Carson the Jesus one as a birthday present.
re: #337 ObserverArt
Oh. One more upding and I reach 30,000. I feel like a member of the family.
: )
Did it!
re: #335 Mattand
I can’t upding that enough.
As a New Jersey resident, I sometimes feel it’s way hypocritical of me to rail about Magic Balance Fairy. It seems like that every major Democratic candidate I helped win office hasn’t exactly been Mr. Clean. Lots of people either stepping down in disgrace or getting investigated. I get the feeling we’ve got the same problem as Illinois and Louisiana: most of our politicians are scummy regardless of party.
But your comment perfectly encapsulates my solution/rationalization: I lean towards a party that doesn’t see bigotry and religious fanaticism as the perfect way to run the country.
If the GOP decides they want to finally grow a spine and reject the fucking ignorant Tea Bag faction that now drags them around by the nose, we can talk. As most rational people realize, that’s probably not for another 50 years for so.
And that’s the thing. I see one party that sees my friends, family, and aquaintences who come from different backgrounds or have different sexual orientations and thinks they are a welcome part of our American fabric. The other party meanwhile panders to people who believe that my gay friends are demonically possessed, that my Muslim friends are plotting another 9/11, and that my Latino friends are all illegal and should be deported. The Dems aren’t perfect my God but they’re not bigots.
re: #322 ObserverArt
BTW, I can’t read the comment because you probably addressed it to Nyet (it should be the full original nick).
re: #337 ObserverArt
Oh. One more upding and I reach 30,000. I feel like a member of the family.
: )
I’m right behind ya! Though I need way more than 1 upding to hit 30K.
Quick question - a friend of mine is currently in “WTF IS THIS SHIT” mode over a video someone sent her of some guy named Roy Beck babbling about how immigration to the US hurts other countries or some shit.
I’ve never heard of this guy and Google isn’t helpful. Any info?
re: #321 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Infected parties should also avoid the handling and use of firearms.
Actually, handling firearms is one of the few things Sarah Palin does right. She’s not much of a shot, but her father trained her well enough that she does not handle firearms stupidly and doesn’t shoot where it might endanger someone else.
Princess Dumbass has 99 problems, but gun ain’t one of ‘em.
re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Did it!
Thanks!
And now I need to get to work on my ongoing house projects. Lurk mode on…
re: #343 Lidane
Quick question - a friend of mine is currently in “WTF IS THIS SHIT” mode over a video someone sent her of some guy named Roy Beck babbling about how immigration to the US hurts other countries or some shit.
I’ve never heard of this guy and Google isn’t helpful. Any info?
This guy: en.wikipedia.org
re: #343 Lidane
Quick question - a friend of mine is currently in “WTF IS THIS SHIT” mode over a video someone sent her of some guy named Roy Beck babbling about how immigration to the US hurts other countries or some shit.
I’ve never heard of this guy and Google isn’t helpful. Any info?
We’ve had immigration in this country from the start. Let your friend know that the writer of Common Sense was an English immigrant and so were quite a few signers of the Declaration and Constitution. Immigration helps countries not harms it.
4,200-year-old wooden model of actual Egyptian granary: https://t.co/VodIt1Oecf pic.twitter.com/vO9Matvxuo
— Binyamin Appelbaum (@BCAppelbaum) November 7, 2015
re: #348 HappyWarrior
We’ve had immigration in this country from the start. Let your friend know that the writer of Common Sense was an English immigrant and so were quite a few signers of the Declaration and Constitution. Immigration helps countries not harms it.
Oh, she knows that. She’s not defending the video. She’s horrified.
I just want to know who this Roy Beck douche is. I’m watching his grand argument where he uses gumballs to explain why immigration hurts the world and laughing.
re: #351 Lidane
Oh, she knows that. She’s not defending the video. She’s horrified.
I just want to know who this Roy Beck douche is. I’m watching his grand argument where he uses gumballs to explain why immigration hurts the world and laughing.
Oh good, sorry. Gumballs WTF.
re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth
A model of a granary like this, often filled with actual grains, might be placed in the tomb to provide a perpetual supply of grain for the dead
See, Ben was right!
re: #331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Cruz is more like a beagle.
I reject associating any politician with a beagle except Lyndon Johnson.
Also, pit bulls are not vicious by nature.
I know but they’re big and tough enough to ignore little dogs that bark at them.
I just love that a guy named Tancredo is one of the biggest anti-immigration voices in America because why the fuck not. Only in America can you go from being a “guinea” or “wop” to championing deporting “spics” and .”
re: #350 HappyWarrior
Tancredo whoa boy.
Yeah; that gumball video he (Roy Beck) does is popular with the wingnuts.
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Speechless.
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Jesus, a lot of people have a “I Love Me” wall or room, but most people keep it to a single room/wall.
re: #352 HappyWarrior
Oh good, sorry. Gumballs WTF.
Proceed at your own risk:
What. The. FUCK. This is total garbage. Are people actually swayed by this?
Sorry Charles. I didn’t know that word would be censored. I deleted it.
re: #358 Lidane
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What. The. FUCK. This is total garbage. Are people actually swayed by this?
I dunno. Anti-immigration zealots piss me off though.
re: #358 Lidane
What. The. FUCK. This is total garbage. Are people actually swayed by this?
No, but people who already believe find it assuring…
re: #341 Nyet
BTW, I can’t read the comment because you probably addressed it to Nyet (it should be the full original nick).
Oh, I see my mistake. I addressed it to the full Nyet (Sergey Romanov). My mistake.
Let’s try it again.
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I decided to see how many cups Ben Shapiro was into this morning and saw that he’s using a Maureen Dowd hit piece from 1994 as proof that Hillary lied about trying to join the Marines… except it doesn’t prove anything? It’s all speculation on how unlikely certain aspect of Hillary’s story are but nothing as demonstrably false as Carson’s West Point stories. GOTCHA I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
re: #363 ChuckJager95
I decided to see how many cups Ben Shapiro was into this morning and saw that he’s using a Maureen Dowd hit piece from 1994 as proof that Hillary lied about trying to join the Marines… except it doesn’t prove anything? It’s all speculation on how unlikely certain aspect of Hillary’s story are but nothing as demonstrably false as Carson’s West Point stories. GOTCHA I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He’s desperate.
re: #362 ObserverArt
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Carson would have had more luck with Hillary’s story about being shot at. Except she at least admitted her false memory and apologized.
Continuing the topic of out-of-control US sex laws:
thegazette.com
The eighth-graders cackle when Reese describes a scenario in which a high school senior on a school bus coming home from a sporting event moons passing cars. But if the kid accidentally shows his genitals and the mom driving the passing car is offended, he could get popped for indecent exposure, which carries 10 years on the registry, Reese explains.
Time for a gun article, but for today we’ll talk about a gun that has spent its entire life with the United States Army. And it’s been a long life:
The Army found an M2 .50 caliber machine-gun still shooting perfectly after 90 years of service
The .50 caliber M2 machine gun was designed in 1918, near the end of World War I by John Browning.
Production began in 1921 and the weapon was designed so a single receiver could be turned into seven different variants by adding jackets, barrels or other components.
Roughly 94 years after the first production run of M2 machine guns came off the assembly line, the 324th weapon produced made it to Anniston Army Depot for overhaul and upgrade.
In more than 90 years of existence, the receiver with serial number 324 has never been overhauled.
“Looking at the receiver, for its age, it looks good as new and it gauges better than most of the other weapons,” said John Clark, a small arms repair leader.
And of course no article about upgrading US Army machine guns would be complete with a photo of two such MGs mounted on an itself-upgraded M1A2 Abrams MBT:
re: #131 teleskiguy
I don’t know how you do it. A Canuck in Mississippi? That’s up there with the Jamaican Bobsled team. Bless you, brother.
Well, I’m down on the gulf coast which, generally speaking is typically one of the more sane areas of the state. Politically it trends highly GOP but it is culturally more diverse. We have a strong mix of white, black, latino and asian (primarily Vietnamese - shrimpers) in these parts. Drive a few hours north and you get to the real backwoods northern MS, that’s where you’ll find most of the racist holdouts and southern stereotypes.
Being here, I can escape to Florida in less than two hours if I want to. It’s not as bad as you might think. Also, due to the long standing military presence here from the Air Force Base, there are quite a few northern transplants (though most from the northern U.S. and not Canada).
re: #365 Nyet
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re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
Well, I’m down on the gulf coast which, generally speaking is typically one of the more sane areas of the state. Politically it trends highly GOP but it is culturally more diverse. We have a strong mix of white, black, latino and asian (primarily Vietnamese - shrimpers) in these parts. Drive a few hours north and you get to the real backwoods northern MS, that’s where you’ll find most of the racist holdouts and southern stereotypes.
Just did what I could to give you a shorter escape route. It’s the first day of early voting in Louisiana, and the weather is really crappy. We’ve spent the last week and a half getting all the rain that didn’t fall between July 4th and late October.
re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
One major problem here is that you get prosecuting attorneys who see obtaining the maximum number of death sentences as a badge of honor and push for them to advance their own careers.
Have posted this before, but think on this topic it bears repeating:
In a previous work life, I worked for a criminal defense attorney who as an ADA prosecuted 6 capital homicide cases and obtained 6 convictions.
Subsequently as a criminal defense attorney, he defended 6 capital homicide cases and won 6 acquittals.
My favorite line he used in one successful defense: “the state will tell you that there are 6 witnesses to the defendant shooting the victim.
It was 7 against 1, the defendant being well outnumbered, shot in self defense.”
re: #373 BeenHereAwhile
Have posted this before, but think on this topic it bears repeating:
In a previous work life, I worked for a criminal defense attorney who as an ADA prosecuted 6 capital homicide cases and obtained 6 convictions.
Subsequently as a criminal defense attorney, he defended 6 capital homicide cases and won 6 acquittals.
My favorite line he used in one successful defense: “the state will tell you that there are 6 witnesses to the defendant shooting the victim.
It was 7 against 1, the defendant being well outnumbered, shot in self defense.”
Yes, but how many murder cases did he plea bargain?
Why crazies dominate wanker polls—establishment wankers got nothing to offer. https://t.co/Qe3cE79E6V
— Bruce Bartlett (@BruceBartlett) November 7, 2015
#recap The real reason the T-Rex became extinct https://t.co/7wtUCWIGsT pic.twitter.com/d88FQTCo3s
— The Poke (@ThePoke) November 7, 2015
The librul gotcha media has been so busy debunking Ben Carson’s entire biography that they have not covered the most important and dangerous aspect of Carson: He believes in RWNJ/extremist conspiracies that Obama has “sealed his college records”.
For a man that somehow possess a doctorate degree, you think he would know that college records are not public record.
re: #367 Nyet
Continuing the topic of out-of-control US sex laws:
thegazette.com
<tinfoil>
Ever consider that these ridiculously zealous sex laws and their enforcers could just be a way to control people, as well as hiding unemployment (are ex-cons listed in the stats if the reason for their unemployment is their conviction or entry in the SOR)?
</tinfoil>
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Speechless.
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Looks like Jesus is ‘gifting’ Ben with a hand.
Well this is exciting. Tomorrow going to get up close and work with a camera with some amazing specs. 30x slo mo, 2k or 4k resolution, takes Sony or Canon lenses. The Sony FS700. Glad to be asked to assist on the shoot.
re: #380 Great White Snark
Well this is exciting. Tomorrow going to get up close and work with a camera with some amazing specs. 30x slo mo, 2k or 4k resolution, takes Sony or Canon lenses. The Sony FS700. Glad to be asked to assist on the shoot.
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*drools*
re: #320 goddamnedfrank
Wait until FOX finds out Jesus is black.
re: #253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The USA has a whole bunch of whites who can’t govern themselves. We call them congressmen and women
That’s not entirely true. I don’t think any of them has had a childish accident in years. Months at the very least. //
re: #383 Romantic Heretic
That’s not entirely true. I don’t think any of them has had a childish accident in years. Months at the very least. //
I dunno. I know at least one of them needs diapers.
re: #280 Nyet
“After communists, most of all I hate anti-communists.” - Sergey Dovlatov,
re: #310 HappyWarrior
I’ve always regarded Cohn as a perfect example of karma in action. Yet another deeply closeted, self loathing gay man whose self loathing drove him to be one of the worst bullies in American history.
The way he was shuffled off this mortal coil was so delicious in its irony.
re: #386 Romantic Heretic
And Cohn was The Donald’s right hand man for the first part of his empire-building days.
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